Re: [E-devel] [Enlightenment-release] [Announce] Enlightenment DR 0.17.0
I just got an email from a coworker -- last place I would have expected it. I didn't know you worked on E17... Congrats. E17 actually got released! Shut it down, our lives are fully accomplished! Big kudos to Mike for making this happen, and big kudos to everyone who worked on this over the years, many of whom have moved on to new challenges in their various lives. I still will never forget LinuxWorld 2005 in San Francisco, watching jaws drop as people walked past our booth and saw overlapping transparent videos projected on the wall (woohoo Emotion!). Carsten, you are a genius. It was one of the honors of my lifetime to have worked with you. And to everyone else on that team of geniuses - Nathan, Andy, Hisham, Tilman, Brian, Chris, Dan, Ben Rockwood ... any one I forgot to mention, and everyone else who came on afterwards to pick up the slack people like me left behind -- well done. Hope you all have a very jolly Christmas and Happy New Year. OK, down from my little soapbox. -- Ibukun On 2012-12-21 18:07, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Unbelievable! Congratulations to all of us :-) --Gustavo Sent from my iPhone On 21/12/2012, at 21:59, Michael Blumenkrantz michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com wrote: E17 RELEASE: ZERO (IT FINALLY HAPPENED, THIS IS SERIOUS.) E17 has been in development for a long time, and there have been a lot of people involved over the years. At this time, the first and final official release of E17, I think it's important to name names and thank everyone who has been involved over the years. E17 Development Team: * The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) * Ibukun Olumuyiwa * Sebastian Dransfeld * HandyAndE (Andrew Williams) * CodeWarrior (Hisham Mardam Bey) * dj2 (Dan Sinclair) * Tilman Sauerbeck * Aleksej Struk * Brian Mattern * devilhorns (Christopher Michael) * /dev/urandom (Viktor Kojouharov) * ilLogict (Chidambar Zinnoury) * Stafford Horne * Cedric Bail * onefang (David Seikel) * okra (Stephen Houston) * Byron Hillis * Ravenlock (Eric Schuele) * ManoWarrior (Luchezar Petkov) * morlenxus (Brian Miculcy) * Toma- (Tom Haste) * k-s (Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri) * Peter van de Werken * Florian Hackenberger * Hannes Janetzek * Mike Blumenkrantz * Leif Middelschulte * yoz (Michael Bouchaud) * billiob (Boris Faure) * Jihoon Kim * Sthitha * Doyoun Kang * Gwanglim Lee * Thomas Gstädtner * q66 * Tom Hacohen (TAsn) * Maxime Villard * Jeremy Zurcher * Shinwoo Kim * Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) * Robert David * Eduardo Lima (Etrunko) * Thanatermesis * Bruno Dilly * Lucas De Marchi * Samuel Mendes * Boris Faure * Michael Stapelberg * Stefan Sperling * Nicolas Beaumont E17 Translation Team: * Viktor Kojouharov * Daniel Kolesa * Vít Pelčák * Tomáš Čech * Martin Geisler * Geo Kou * Aron Xu * Giorgos RageCryX Koutsikos * George Koutsikos * Efstathios Iosifidis * Olivier M * Jose Biosca Martin * DiegoJ * Aníbal Garrido * Adrián Arévalo Tirado * Jani Väyrynen * Jussi Aalto * Sébastien HOUZE * Maxime BRUNEL * Chidambar Zinnoury * Antoine Giniès * Jérôme Pinot * batden * dazibao * rustyBSD * Raoul Hecky * Aníbal Garrido * Yaron * Miro Glavic * Lisovszki Sándor * Massimo Maiurana * David Stevenson * Michael Kim * Jihoon Kim * Daniel Juyung Seo * Seong-ho Cho * Erdal Ronahi * Vaidotas * Simen Graaten * aboe * Niels Abspoel * Heimen Stoffels * Grzegorz Gaczyński * Adam Kisiel * Stanislaw Gackowski * Mariusz 'mariom' Kozakowski * Enlik * Rodrigo -MDK- Oliveira * Sérgio Marques * Vinícius dos Santos Oliveira * Sérgio Marques * Denis Klykvin * Koptev Oleg * Danny Moshnakov * Igor Murzov * r1to * Anders Trobäck * Daniel Nylander * H. İbrahim Güngör * Daniel Korostil * Emfox Zhou * gao stone * Aron Xu * Luo Jie * eexpress * 玉堂白鹤 * squeeze * Sam Xu * John Lee * Chia-I Wu * E17.0 - 81623 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/enlightenment-0.17.0.tar.gz [1] http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/enlightenment-0.17.0.tar.bz2 [2] And, because there have been some translation updates and minor bug fixes: * Echievements v2 http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/echievements-2.tar.gz [3] http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/echievements-2.tar.bz2 [4] -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d [5] ___ Enlightenment-release mailing list enlightenment-rele...@lists.sourceforge.net [6] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-release [7] -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering
Re: [E-devel] Key Modifiers for Ecore/SDL
This patch is needed to fix functionality on Palm WebOS. If no-one objects I'll commit to SVN later today. Ibukun On Mon, January 18, 2010 2:54 pm, Ryan Hope wrote: The following patch fixes key modifiers for Ecore using SDL. The patch is probably not complete, but it does and and is an improvement. -Ryan diff --git a/src/lib/ecore_sdl/ecore_sdl.c b/src/lib/ecore_sdl/ecore_sdl.c index f2d9c4f..88bad56 100755 --- a/src/lib/ecore_sdl/ecore_sdl.c +++ b/src/lib/ecore_sdl/ecore_sdl.c @@ -108,6 +108,23 @@ ecore_sdl_shutdown(void) return _ecore_sdl_init_count; } +static unsigned int +_ecore_sdl_event_modifiers(int mod) +{ + unsigned intmodifiers = 0; + + if(mod KMOD_LSHIFT) modifiers |= ECORE_EVENT_MODIFIER_SHIFT; + if(mod KMOD_RSHIFT) modifiers |= ECORE_EVENT_MODIFIER_SHIFT; + if(mod KMOD_LCTRL) modifiers |= ECORE_EVENT_MODIFIER_CTRL; + if(mod KMOD_RCTRL) modifiers |= ECORE_EVENT_MODIFIER_CTRL; + if(mod KMOD_LALT) modifiers |= ECORE_EVENT_MODIFIER_ALT; + if(mod KMOD_RALT) modifiers |= ECORE_EVENT_MODIFIER_ALT; + if(mod KMOD_NUM) modifiers |= ECORE_EVENT_LOCK_NUM; + if(mod KMOD_CAPS) modifiers |= ECORE_EVENT_LOCK_CAPS; + + return modifiers; +} + static Ecore_Event_Key* _ecore_sdl_event_key(SDL_Event *event, double time) { @@ -119,7 +136,7 @@ _ecore_sdl_event_key(SDL_Event *event, double time) ev-timestamp = time; ev-window = 0; - ev-modifiers = 0; /* FIXME: keep modifier around. */ + ev-modifiers = _ecore_sdl_event_modifiers(SDL_GetModState()); ev-key = NULL; ev-compose = NULL; -- Throughout its 18-year history, RSA Conference consistently attracts the world's best and brightest in the field, creating opportunities for Conference attendees to learn about information security's most important issues through interactions with peers, luminaries and emerging and established companies. http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsaconf-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Throughout its 18-year history, RSA Conference consistently attracts the world's best and brightest in the field, creating opportunities for Conference attendees to learn about information security's most important issues through interactions with peers, luminaries and emerging and established companies. http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsaconf-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Evas running on WebOS/Palm Pre
On Mon, January 11, 2010 5:52 am, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 16:03:23 -0600 Ibukun Olumuyiwa ibu...@xcomputerman.com said: (The prodigal child returns!) I've been working on this for a couple of days now. If you're familiar with Palm's WebOS then you probably know that the most recent OS update (1.3.5) came with SDL and OpenGL ES libraries. Here's a video of Expedite running on my Palm Pre using the software_sdl engine, and running rather smoothly too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsAuGSKbVhk The expedite package used in the demo can be downloaded here: http://xcomputerman.com/files/evas_webos.tar.gz It contains libs of eina, eet, evas and ecore with the SDL, FB and GLES engines enabled compiled for ARMv7, as well as an expedite binary. I still need to sort all this out and package it into something more user friendly, but meanwhile you can ping me if you want to try it out for yourself. hmm interesting. so pal has finally added in sdl to be able to use real code to display things... :) SDL ... and GLES. Now we need a gl-sdl engine so that we can use the PowerVR chip to accelerate Evas. I should probably add that there has been an encouraging level of interest from WebOS hackers in this, and the aforementioned video is now a favorite on youtube.com/webosinternals. I'm currently in the process of adding EFL packages to the WebOS-Internals cross compile repo/PDK. Ibukun -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Evas running on WebOS/Palm Pre
(The prodigal child returns!) I've been working on this for a couple of days now. If you're familiar with Palm's WebOS then you probably know that the most recent OS update (1.3.5) came with SDL and OpenGL ES libraries. Here's a video of Expedite running on my Palm Pre using the software_sdl engine, and running rather smoothly too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsAuGSKbVhk The expedite package used in the demo can be downloaded here: http://xcomputerman.com/files/evas_webos.tar.gz It contains libs of eina, eet, evas and ecore with the SDL, FB and GLES engines enabled compiled for ARMv7, as well as an expedite binary. I still need to sort all this out and package it into something more user friendly, but meanwhile you can ping me if you want to try it out for yourself. Best regards, Ibukun -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [Entrance] SELinux integration
*Suddenly appears out of nowhere* NO. No blatant copying of gdm code, even with permission. Study the algorithm and reimplement it, but don't copy blocks of code from GDM. Everything needs to be written from scratch. That's always been the design philosophy from the beginning -- a lot of stuff in Entrance is taken from GDM architecture/algorithm-wise, but I always took care to make sure I didn't copy code explicitly to avoid licensing problems. Great catch btw, Raster. Thanks. Ibukun On 8/10/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:15:26 +0200 Mivz [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Yes, I'll read it :) Here is the patch. I'm still working on the policy files. I will finish them when I'm graduated in a few weeks. The patch contains a function I got from gdm. copied from gdm? verbatim? if so - this can't go into entrance (unless you change entrance's license - it becomes GPL then). you can copy the ALGORITHM and the IDEA - but NOT the code - well not without affecting licenses. essiene - beware of this. i recommend you don't accept the patch as-is. you rewrite the function from gdm. that's the first thing that came to my mind... you could also try to contact the author of that piece of code (hopefully the copyright holder is mentioned somewhere in the file) and ask him to re-license you that function under the 3-clause-bsd. Bye, Emme Harrie Hoogeveen John Kraal wrote: I believe he is very busy finishing school at the moment ;) He'll read this though. Essien Ita Essien wrote: John Kraal wrote: Great, The guy already made it, but he has no idea of how to make it optional (for use in Makefile.am, configure.in, etc). Nevertheless I'll let him submit. awesome. If somebody could do the makefile / configure.in, please do Let him mail it to me directly [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'll do the autoKUNGfoo and send it back to him to test. And uhhh... why is _he_ not on the mailing list directly himself? Entrance needs more love :), if he could hack in SELinux support, we can use some more hands _if_ he's interested in helping out more. Cheers, Essien Regards, John Essien Ita Essien wrote: John Kraal wrote: Hello, Are there any plans for integrating SELinux in Entrance-login as of yet? If not, somebody here is thinking about doing it.. Hiya John, Its not on the current todo list. However, please go ahead and do this, much appreciated. Once then send the patch to the mailing list for review, I'm not the maintainer, just a cleaner-upper with cvs access. That said, if you send this patch in, also copy xcomp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (he finds it hard to follow the patches on the ml, since its sooo long). One way or the other, the other, the friggin patch will go in :) *hint* Entrance need more ppl to show it more love *end hint* Cheers, Essien Regards, John - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $BMg9%B?(B Tokyo, Japan ($BEl5~(B $BF|K\(B)
Re: [E-devel] Entrance Config - YAET
Yes, unfortunately we need a widget toolkit. I'm largely letting Essien make the call on this one, but we might even go with both. This is the kind of situation I dreaded when ETK first started up, and unfortunately some people will consider a choice of one toolkit over another as some sort of broad endorsement -- it isn't. One thing I think we will definitely be doing is keeping form strictly independent of function...so even if we decided to screw it all and go wxWidgets or Swing, no problemo. Ibukun On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:20:20 +0100 Essien Ita Essien [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Stephen Houston wrote: snip Its probably not a good idea to use etk or ewl because they are an extra dependency, and its in entrances best interests to keep it neutral. Just use evas objects, and edje for the gfx, and you'll be fine. i've seriously considered this too. i'm going to sleep on this, and i'm also in touch with xcomp. we'll reach a decision soon enuff. thnx. sure - and then.. eventually, you need a widget - of some sort, so you implement it... back to square one. entrance itself can getaway with no widgets - its text entry needs are very simple. but a config tool will need more... -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $BMg9%B?(B Tokyo, Japan ($BEl5~(B $BF|K\(B) - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] entrance sessions permissions
Duly noted: Entrance could possibly use a bit of idiot-proofing. --Ibukun John Altobelli wrote: Hello, In one of my less than flattering moments I was having trouble logging in as a user. Every time I tried to enter e17 from entrance I would be met with an immediate lockup without any way to return to the entrance login or access other terminals. I finally found the problem when I noticed that a superuser could get into the system okay. I had made a mistake in my permissions in the /etc/X11/Sessions/e17 file that would bring me into the windows manager. Anyway, I was wondering if entrance could have a better way of handling such a mistake, ideally some kind of a popup message saying hey your dumb, you screwed up your permissions and then bring you back to the main entrance menu. Thanks for your time, and I hope my mistakes will lead to a more idiot proof system even if I'm past saving, John --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=kkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Ecore does not compile.
Francisco Sanz wrote: Hello. I have a problem compiling ecore. There is not all archives in ecore/src/lib/ecore_x i.e. there is not ecore_x_fixes.c I downlad ecore from cvs today. My error - forgot to add the new files to CVS. Update and try again. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Entrance Sessions
(Preemptive strike) Yes, I introduced a bug preventing sessions from showing in Entrance. I'm still trying to find it. If you find it before I do let me know. --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Re: E CVS: apps/entrance xcomputerman
I finally managed to get a Linux LiveDVD to use with my laptop, so I'm trying to ease myself back into it and get some overdue stuff done, yeah. :) On Fri, 12 May 2006 19:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Enlightenment CVS [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : xcomputerman Project : e17 Module : apps/entrance wo! xcomp! entrance commits! does this mean you're back? :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $BMg9%B?(B Tokyo, Japan ($BEl5~(B $BF|K\(B) --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0709bid3057dat1642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Entrance Background Themeing
Please send patches, by all means. (btw, glad to welcome a fellow Naija man to the E team!) Hiya, Gotten a bit freetime on my hands lately, and been trying to do something with it. Entrance has a TODO item, which mentions spliting out the Background Edje from the Main theme edje and i've started working on it. I just want to confirm no one else is working on it so we don't duplicate effort (and if there is, we can collaborate on that). Currently, I have it working on my box. I split out the background from the data/themes/default.edc into a data/themes/background.edc, then i created a new background_edje for the main evas canvas, that loads this background, before going ahead to load the default theme (which is now transparent). In the background theme, i set the part to be loaded to 'entrance/background' taking a cue from E that looks for 'desktop/background'. There are some things remaining before it is properly done. 1. Background choosing scheme priorities: First: User Specified At command line (-b option) Second: Previously configured background-theme from session-config Third: E-theme supplied (so the theme can specify an Entrance background) Fourth: The default background theme that comes with Entrance itself. 2. Easy configuration of this (and probably other aspects of Entrance). I've actually been thinking it would be nice for a Entrance Config to look and feel like the rest of E's configs, so i was thinking of an Entrance configuration module, but doing that would make entrance dependent on E, and users may not be able to mix and match Entrance/GNOME or Entrance/Fluxbox without installing E as well. Any ideas here? Anyways, i think that the background themeing can be done without a UI config _ATM_. Also, do i begin to send in my patches so far? Or do i wait to have the full picture before i send the patch? I know _big_ patches are not really liked by anyone. Finally... any ideas? Cheers, Essien --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=110944bid=241720dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid0944bid$1720dat1642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] E.Org CMS (new thread please!)
Maybe it's time to seriously consider hosting e.org somewhere other than Sourceforge. The web site, at least. Of course, logistical problems abound. But wouldn't hurt to at least try to discover what options we might have in this regard. Ibukun Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela wrote: Actually, there is a way around of SF project web page read only policies, you can make a directory on /tmp/persitent/projname there you can write as you need, I use mediawiki for my project site and yes readonly policy was pita till I discovered this. On 1/27/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:27:49 -0800 Ben Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: well technically we had issues we couldnt solve with drupal or toenda on sf.net. drupal requires write access by the php to the website fs - that ruled it out when sf.net turned it off - and same for toenda. frankly we got stuck nitpick Drupal core does not require write access. Certain modules do, but it's when i set it up on sf.net - things like uploading an image for a screenshot required file write access. anything other than plain text article stuff ended up needing. quite easy to run a Drupal site on a read only filesystem. Our Drupal setup (http://lug.wsu.edu) has a single writable directory that we use for file attachments. As I don't see any other way of uploading files yup - but you NEED one - sf.net provided NONE the www scritps had ZERO write accesss anywhere. (other than the terrible practice of inserting binary blobs into your database) I don't think you'll find another CMS that provides the feature without requiring write access. /nitpick EXACTLY! that was the problem. it is possible to put them into the db - but they don't - and its highly inefficient to do so. -b --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Entrance patch to for obtaining system sessions list
Phuah Yee Keat wrote: Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: Does GDM use the same .desktop files that KDM uses? If so then perhaps this is something that can be standardized upon. The lack of a standard way of storing sessions is the reason why this feature isn't there in the first place. Although, ideally, I would still prefer a scenario in which Entrance could automatically determine how sessions are stored on any one system and build its config accordingly. The latest GDM comes with support for the .desktop file types. And as Mr Morten suggested with what we do with Entrance, GDM does not comes with its own set of .desktop files and rely on the individual WM to provide their own. On Mandrake, another (or two) program are run to generate GDM configurations, namely /usr/sbin/chksession and /usr/sbin/fndSession, which are both in the mandrake_desk rpm and not in GDM nor the WM's rpms. Oh that's great then...this would be what we want to do! As at the last time I checked neither of the major display managers had standardized on session management, but it seems that they're moving in that direction now. I'm definitely willing to move forward with this approach. Was there some discussion about some standard routine for parsing .desktop files in ecore_config or something like that? That's probably the right way to go about this, since afaik .desktop files are used for many things other than window manager sessions. Could be very useful for helping integrate E17 with Gnome KDE. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Entrance patch to for obtaining system sessions list
Phuah Yee Keat wrote: Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: If I understand correctly, this patch was written for Slackware? If so I can't take it...what we would want is a script that at least covers most of the major distros (Debian, Mandriva, Fedora, Ubuntu, Gentoo, Slackware) and understands how each of them stores X sessions. For example, Mandriva does not use .desktop files to store sessions - it The codes that I have submitted, are written on slackware, but the method that I have used, are based on what KDM does. And KDM is the Login Manager that I previously used and pretty much pleased with when using it on a Mandrake/Redhat and Slackware box. It seems to pick out the sessions correctly. I do not have other distros at my disposal, so its hard for me to come out with a solution that covers other major distros, as the type=Xsession .desktop files are not yet as standardized as those type=Application .desktop files. That's the difference between KDM and GDM as well, KDM provides its own .desktop files for the major window managers, so that it doesn't much care whether your system uses .desktop files or not. GDM attempts to look for .desktop files on your systems on some configurable paths. Personally, I prefered the KDM method, even after some objections from Mr Morten. :) Since its effective and easy to maintain across different distributions, albeit not pretty. Slackware have no .desktop files as well, stuffs are in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.XXX that needs to be configured by the administrator, and is used by everyone on the system, and hence is not very login manager friendly, but KDM's method worked fine over here. keeps entries under /etc/X11/wmsession.d/. This is probably much better done as a script that determines the system's linux distribution, obtains the X sessions accordingly, and outputs a session list that can then be compiled into the configuration at build time. I do not like the script generating session list idea, since that means that after a window manager is installed/uninstalled, the script will then need to be run to regenerate the session list. I still personally prefers to have our own set of .desktop files (at least until the major window managers have them, fluxbox still doesn't the last I checked) and try to see which one is installed by checking each one's TryExec parameter. If not, we would then need the Window Manager's installation scripts to run these scripts, which then have all the distros checking stuffs again in all the rpm, deb, and tgzs of the window manager's packages and installation scripts. Cheers, Phuah Yee Keat Does GDM use the same .desktop files that KDM uses? If so then perhaps this is something that can be standardized upon. The lack of a standard way of storing sessions is the reason why this feature isn't there in the first place. Although, ideally, I would still prefer a scenario in which Entrance could automatically determine how sessions are stored on any one system and build its config accordingly. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance
Phuah Yee Keat wrote: Felix Breuer wrote: What I would like to know is the following: * What is the standard way for a login manager to read/set the environment for a session? Are login managers supposed to go through an Xsession script? I was just poking around the Entrance source and also the way xdm works last week, while trying to see what can be done to solve the Entrance+csh-as-login-shell issue. Well, XDM goes thru /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup as root, which login the user in utmp, but DOES_NOT run the shell as a login shell, hence the startup scripts are not read. Then XDM run the /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession script as the user just logged in. And my Xsession (slackware) does have this patch patch # Since xdm doesn't run a bash -login shell (or any other login shell) # we should source these files to set up the user's environment. profile=/etc/profile userprofile=~/.profile if [ -r $profile ]; then source $profile 1 /dev/null 2 /dev/null fi if [ -r $userprofile ]; then source $userprofile 1 /dev/null 2 /dev/null fi /patch Which loads the profile. So in this case, its not the login shell which does it, but the Xsession script. I have checked kdm, and kdm use the same sessreg (although in kdm this is a function instead), and not /bin/sh -l. I am still trying to see how I can change entrance to either use /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg or the sessreg.c from kdm, instead of /bin/sh -l. Cheers, Phuah Yee Keat I would be interested in knowing if anyone experiences previously seen issues (most notably, the eaps-disappearing bug) after doing the following: - Remove the -l option from the exec command (don't use login shell) in entrance_session.c, and recompile. - Create an Xsession entry for your distro that launches E17. On Mandriva (and Fedora/RedHat probably) you'd create a file in /etc/X11/wmsession.d; you will need to figure out how your distribution manages X sessions. - In your config, replace /usr/local/bin/enlightenment with the name of the Xsession you just created for E17. Entrance will use Xsession to execute a session unless the full path to the command is given. Xsession sets up many things for you that Entrance won't do (and isn't supposed to do, actually) - like read/load Xresources/Xdefaults files and stuff like that. It might even resolve environment issues like LANG, or issues with display font sizes. Regards, -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance
Felix Breuer wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 08:46:55 -0600 Nathan Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Felix, Hi Nathan and everyone, [sorry for the week of silence, I was AWFK] I may have missed it with all of the other discussion in this thread, but could you explain the base issue you're trying to address? There isn't much that we would want from the root environment passed to the users session, so I think clearing the environment is mandatory. Why and when do you need the environment variables setup, and is there a reason executing a login shell, like entrance does to start a session, doesn't satisfy the requirements? Entrance executes a login shell to start a session? That is interesting. I did a quick grep and could not find the relevant part of the code, could you point me to it? Now the problem is the following. After I start a session in entrance, some environment variables that are important to the system, such as PYTHONPATH, are not set. These variables are set in the init script and later cleared by Entrance. Entrance does not run an Xsession script (there is none on my distro) but starts E17 directly. Entrance does not run a login shell in that case, right? On my system, a login shell reads /etc/profile which sources /etc/environment in which all these variables are exported. So a login shell knows about those variables even though it clears them first, the same way Entrance does. What I would like to know is the following: * What is the standard way for a login manager to read/set the environment for a session? Are login managers supposed to go through an Xsession script? Yes. * If so, why does Entrance offer the option to run an executable directly? Just because. Well, because setting up sessions for Xsession can be a pain in the neck in some distributions, and sometimes you have a blazing hot off the CVS presses, bleeding-edge, other-worldly, simply astonishing product like E17 that you'd like to just work. You know what I'm sayin'? * What would be a good way to allow system administrators to customize the standard environment for all the sessions that Entrance launches directly, i.e. not through an Xsession script? Same way. Edit /etc/profile and whatever else is connected with it. This really should have nothing to do with Entrance or whatever other display manager you use. Thanks, Felix -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance
This is funny indeed. What's the debate? The code is BSD licensed, and I own the rights to it. That said, I've already said before, I would like at least one person to help me maintain and manage the code. To say that I've disappeared altogether is not fair at all, or to compare me to others who left the project altogether. I do keep in touch, check the mailing list from time to time, make suggestions and contributions when I can. If anyone wants to actively work on/maintain Entrance, by all means contact me - I'd love to see some work being done on it. But this debate here is just ridiculous. I thought someone was offering to write a patch for an Entrance feature. Why not discuss THAT? --Ibukun On Tue, November 29, 2005 10:27 am, Nathan Ingersoll said: As only one person has even stepped forward to work on entrance recently with a couple small (but useful) patches, arguing ownership seems pretty pointless at this point. -- http://xcomputerman.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Re: E CVS: proto moom16
I'm going to weigh in on this one a little bit. My apologies if I come off a little stronger than the previous objections did -- hopefully everyone can see this matter from a rational viewpoint as I observe it. I really do not get the point of this effort either, even after the explanation. How is it that we have *three* different widget toolkit implementations in CVS, in spite of our shortage of human resources in this project? It is a massive waste of effort and a major step backwards, in my humble opinion. We've been working on this for over three years and we still don't have a decent toolkit to show for it -- and our answer to it is fragmentation? I really appreciate the amount of work you've done Simon, and I respect your contributions to this project. But I think this should be killed. And eblocks too. If there are things in Etk that are implemented better than in EWL, then if necessary kill the corresponding EWL widget and rewrite it the better way. There's nothing in EWL that cannot be fixed, even if it requires major, API-breaking, structure-changing fixes. It's still better than fragmenting efforts and somehow hoping everything will magically work together sometime in the distant future. Having two, nay three, widget toolkits competing in the *same* CVS repository, within the same project, for a limited number of human resources *is* bad. Very bad. I just don't see how this is going to move us forward here. Let's think rationally, get our priorities right and pull our resources together in the right direction. We've done a lot of work here and the rest of the world is beginning to see it and appreciate what we have done. But we can still do much better, and this is not the way. Ibukun Hi Nathan, Hi Brian, First, I have to say that I'm sorry for having kept Etk secret and send it to the CVS without any notification, it was probably the worst way to proceed. Now, the reasons why I have started Etk: as I always said, I wasn't fully satisfied with ewl because it didn't worked as I expected it to do. So I tried for a (short, I agree) moment to improve it by making a patch for the grid container (which didn't solve all the problems, but the idea of the fix was there), by making a theme (it has never been finished because there were a lot of widget size/placement problem with this theme). I also send a list of 4 bugs/incorrect behaviors for the menu widgets, but they've never been fixed. Now, that's true that Etk and Ewl are in direct competition, both dev teams won't give up their job, and the two projects can't blend together since they are really two different. The only solution I see is that the two libs will have to coexist, which is not really bad, it could even become a way to work better/faster (CodeWarrior and I are already helping each other on eblocks/etk). Some projects will be made with etk, and other with ewl. The only thing is that it will be definitively confusing for the user, and will give two different looks to the apps. For the last point, I think it could be fixed if the themes of Etk and Ewl become compatible but it may be hard. About the licence, I'm not against the BSD licence, it's just that Etk takes a lot of concepts from GTK (hence the name Etk): properties, signals, resize system and the API. No code has been taken, everything has been recoded, but I'm not sure it won't cause licence problems anyway. So for now, it will stay under LGPL until I'm sure there is no licence problem. Regards, Simon TRENY MoOm Brian Mattern a écrit : I'm getting a segv on etk_test here (bt below). I have to agree with Nathan though. I definitely see nothing wrong with implementing your own toolkit. However, we could probably get ALOT more done if we pooled our efforts instead of constantly redoing things. I am curious also, as to what faults EWL has that led you to design and write your own toolkit. There are definitely two main styles of toolkits in E right now. A traditional, packed toolkit (ewl, etk, eblocks), and an edje + smart object based toolkit (esmart, various smartobjs in apps/e). I definitely see these two styles as coexisting nicely, and worth the somewhat duplicated effort. However, I really fail to see the need for multiple packed toolkits. Some other little things. Before committing large projects to CVS (even to proto), send a note to the list explaining what the project is. Also, in your initial commit, make the message a little more descriptive. So, instead of Import of Eczema, say Import of Eczema, a new application that cures that obnoxious condition everyone's been mistaking for dandruff all these years... As for licensing, you're definitely free to build on our code and slap whatever the hell license you want on it (we DO use the anarchist license after all...) BUT, its still a bit rude. And means your library won't get as much usage by E folk. (MEJ'll give you hell... :):) Anyway, I hope you don't think we're attacking you. Simply looking for
Re: [E-devel] Re: E CVS: libs/ecore xcomputerman
Michael Jennings wrote: On Sunday, 11 September 2005, at 19:42:40 (-0700), E CVS List wrote: Log Message: Directory list should sort case-insensitive. Anything else is counter-intuitive and annoying. :) I think the exact opposite is true. Case-insensitive sorting is annoying and wrong. Try to see things from a regular user's POV for once, it might help. :) Of course, that function shouldn't be doing any sorting anyway. The sorting should be separated out so that the method of sorting can be flexible. This was originally what I wanted to do actually -- implement a list-based quicksort (would require use of Ecore_Dlist). But it is much more efficient as it is, doing an insertion sort while actually inserting items into the list. Ibukun --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Re: E CVS: libs/ecore xcomputerman
Michael Jennings wrote: This was originally what I wanted to do actually -- implement a list-based quicksort (would require use of Ecore_Dlist). But it is much more efficient as it is, doing an insertion sort while actually inserting items into the list. Both approaches are too restrictive. What you need is to pass in a comparison function for your insertion sort. I used a similar technique for the sorting/arranging code in EFM. If you recall how many sort by and arrange by options EFM had, you'll see the flexibility inherent to that approach. Actually yes, this is a better idea. The only snag here is that it would be inefficient. For sorting based on attributes other than filename, the comparison function would have to fetch metadata for each file it attempts to compare to another ... too many disk accesses per file would result in poor performance in large directories,u nless the directory list function prefetched file metadata into a struct that the comparison function could use. --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] e17 on cygwin ALMOST works
Mike Russo wrote: i have some screen shots and build notes here: http://www.stardatecomputer.com/people/miker/MJR_TiddlyWiki.html#E17onCygwin short story is, it builds but ewl has some video display issues. :-) why? i didn't want to wait till windows vista! Wow. Now that someone has figured all this out, I might actually try to fix the remaining issues. I would *LOVE* to be able to use E17 instead of Openbox at work! Ibukun --- SF.Net email is Sponsored by the Better Software Conference EXPO September 19-22, 2005 * San Francisco, CA * Development Lifecycle Practices Agile Plan-Driven Development * Managing Projects Teams * Testing QA Security * Process Improvement Measurement * http://www.sqe.com/bsce5sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] entrance problem with nfs
Nir Tzachar wrote: On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 09:38 -0500, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: Nir Tzachar wrote: hello. entrance have a problem with users whose home dirs reside on nfs. if the nfs export is set to root-squash, entrance does not succeed in creating the authentication file (.Xauthority). i guess the problem is it does not set it's uid at the appropriate time, but im shooting blind here The problem is not manifested with local users, but only in the scenario mentioned above. any ideas??? has someone else ever tried this?? Well, I hate to say duh, but you specifically configured your NFS mount to prevent root from writing, and you are complaining that entrance cannot write? hi. thanks for answering ;) anyway, you are wrong. as an example, look at xdm. works like a charm as i said, it looks like entranced does not seteuid before writing to the user's .xauthority. Of course. Since I wrote the stupid program myself, I have no idea what the heck I'm talking about. I'd give you an answer but you don't deserve one, so I'll let you figure it out on your own, oh wise one. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] entrance problem with nfs
Nir Tzachar wrote: hello. entrance have a problem with users whose home dirs reside on nfs. if the nfs export is set to root-squash, entrance does not succeed in creating the authentication file (.Xauthority). i guess the problem is it does not set it's uid at the appropriate time, but im shooting blind here The problem is not manifested with local users, but only in the scenario mentioned above. any ideas??? has someone else ever tried this?? Well, I hate to say duh, but you specifically configured your NFS mount to prevent root from writing, and you are complaining that entrance cannot write? -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] New entrance configure.in and small fixes in src/client/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michel Briand wrote: | If I understand entrance is lauched by another program (entranced?) that sets | DISPLAY. Correct ? | | Thus testing DISPLAY should be a first step in main() checks. Ok. And storing a | strdup of getenv(DISPLAY) should be made earlier I think. | Entranced passes the display as a command line option to entrance. This lets you run multiple entrance-managed displays. The strdup of getenv(DISPLAY) is in the right place. $DISPLAY isn't going to change, and the reason why it is in the entrance_session_new() function is because it needs to be stored in the session struct. There is no other place to put that strdup. | What do you think of my ecore_evas_engine_type_supported_get() call ? | It's in CVS. Thank you. :) | IMHO testing include files is not correct in configure. I agree with Raster on | that point. | No, it is not incorrect. You prefer the ecore-config approach, but that does not make it incorrect. It was properly thought out and works very well. Think of this: you can't assume that all ecore installations will be feature complete. Ecore-config is a simpler, easier way out, but it's not necessarily better than what's there. If I just used ecore-config - --includes and for some whacked reason joe user didn't install ecore_ipc, then the error occurs during compilation instead of at configure stage. And it's much uglier. | Another topic: how do you start another server on a machine that already have an | X running at :0.0 ? To test entrance I like to start another server with | | xinit ${e17path}/sbin/entranced -- X :1 | Wrong wrong wrong. Entranced launches the X session - you do not need xinit at all. entranced -d :1 Simplify. :) | ps: I'll use diff -u, promiss! | Thanks, much appreciated. :) | Michel | | Ibukun Olumuyiwa a écrit : | |Actually, if the DISPLAY variable is not set entrance doesn't even |start, so it wouldn't even get this far (it would have failed at |ecore_evas_software_x11_new()). So I'd say adding a fallback would be |redundant at this point. | |And yes Michel, please next time send diffs using -u :) | |Corey Donohoe wrote: || We should have an else condition to the getenv check, if e-display is |NULL || pam authentication is going to fail miserably. We also prefer 'diff -u' || format :D || || * Michel Briand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: || ||-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ||Hash: SHA1 || ||Hello Ibukun || ||please chech these files: || || entrance_session.c: fix a segfault when DISPLAY=(null) || ||Index: src/client/entrance_session.c ||=== ||RCS file: |/cvsroot/enlightenment/e17/apps/entrance/src/client/entrance_session.c,v ||retrieving revision 1.67 ||diff -r1.67 entrance_session.c ||38c38 ||char *db; ||--- || || char *db, *str; || ||49,51c49,51 ||if (!display) || e-display = strdup(getenv(DISPLAY)); ||else ||--- || || if (!display) { || if ((str = getenv(DISPLAY))) e-display = strdup(str); || } else || || || __ || Corey Donohoe || http://www.atmos.org || || || --- || SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide || Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. || Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. || http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click || ___ || enlightenment-devel mailing list || enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net || https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel | | |-- | |Ibukun Olumuyiwa |http://xcomputerman.com | |I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, |and will watch to see what he will say unto me, |and what I shall answer when I am reproved. | | | | --- | SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide | Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. | Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. | http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click | ___ | enlightenment-devel mailing list | enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel | | - -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCMW+zImU2r6Etn78RAiRhAKDcenAiLKw4fHVVCuRdMagTG6SGHgCfU5K/ Xi/287TkuEOlcVmPjsfUDKY= =Ii99 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up
Re: [E-devel] New entrance configure.in and small fixes in src/client/
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Actually, if the DISPLAY variable is not set entrance doesn't even start, so it wouldn't even get this far (it would have failed at ecore_evas_software_x11_new()). So I'd say adding a fallback would be redundant at this point. And yes Michel, please next time send diffs using -u :) Corey Donohoe wrote: | We should have an else condition to the getenv check, if e-display is NULL | pam authentication is going to fail miserably. We also prefer 'diff -u' | format :D | | * Michel Briand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: | |-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- |Hash: SHA1 | |Hello Ibukun | |please chech these files: | | entrance_session.c: fix a segfault when DISPLAY=(null) | |Index: src/client/entrance_session.c |=== |RCS file: /cvsroot/enlightenment/e17/apps/entrance/src/client/entrance_session.c,v |retrieving revision 1.67 |diff -r1.67 entrance_session.c |38c38 |char *db; |--- | | char *db, *str; | |49,51c49,51 |if (!display) | e-display = strdup(getenv(DISPLAY)); |else |--- | | if (!display) { | if ((str = getenv(DISPLAY))) e-display = strdup(str); | } else | | | __ | Corey Donohoe | http://www.atmos.org | | | --- | SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide | Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. | Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. | http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click | ___ | enlightenment-devel mailing list | enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel - -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCL9eTImU2r6Etn78RAlcIAJ9scEP3ICZ0UVZfyJ7GZTTrFkKoJgCg0AZY oSil83Kmrlv0EGewhzaS2RI= =r4X0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] New entrance configure.in and small fixes in src/client/
specified ], [ ECORE_CONFIG=$withval; echo using $ECORE_CONFIG for ecore-config; ], [ PROG=ecore-config; AC_PATH_PROG(ECORE_CONFIG, $PROG, , $PATH) ] ) ecore_cflags=`$ECORE_CONFIG --cflags` ecore_libs=`$ECORE_CONFIG --libs` 117,124c80,87 AC_PATH_GENERIC(edje, 0.5.0, [ AC_SUBST(edje_libs) AC_SUBST(edje_cflags) ], AC_MSG_ERROR(Cannot find edje: Is edje-config in path?)) edje_libs=`edje-config --libs` edje_cflags=`edje-config --cflags` AC_SUBST(edje_libs) --- AC_SUBST(ecore_libs) AC_ARG_WITH(edje-config, [ --with-edje-config=EDJE_CONFIG use edje-config specified ], [ EDJE_CONFIG=$withval; echo using $EDJE_CONFIG for edje-config; ], [ PROG=edje-config; AC_PATH_PROG(EDJE_CONFIG, $PROG, , $PATH) ] ) edje_cflags=`$EDJE_CONFIG --cflags` edje_libs=`$EDJE_CONFIG --libs` 126,133c89,96 AC_PATH_GENERIC(esmart, 0.9.0, [ AC_SUBST(esmart_libs) AC_SUBST(esmart_cflags) ], AC_MSG_ERROR(Cannot find esmart: Is esmart-config in path?)) esmart_libs=`esmart-config --libs` esmart_cflags=`esmart-config --cflags` AC_SUBST(esmart_libs) --- AC_SUBST(edje_libs) AC_ARG_WITH(esmart-config, [ --with-esmart-config=ESMART_CONFIG use esmart-config specified ], [ ESMART_CONFIG=$withval; echo using $ESMART_CONFIG for esmart-config; ], [ PROG=esmart-config; AC_PATH_PROG(ESMART_CONFIG, $PROG, , $PATH) ] ) esmart_cflags=`$ESMART_CONFIG --cflags` esmart_libs=`$ESMART_CONFIG --libs` 134a98 AC_SUBST(esmart_libs) 221a186,191 # Hack to show if OpenGL is included in evas have_ecore_gl_x11=unknown evas_gl_support=`evas-config --libs | grep GL` if test ! -z $evas_gl_support ; then have_ecore_gl_x11=yes fi Index: src/client/entrance_session.c === RCS file: /cvsroot/enlightenment/e17/apps/entrance/src/client/entrance_session.c,v retrieving revision 1.67 diff -r1.67 entrance_session.c 38c38 char *db; --- char *db, *str; 49,51c49,51 if (!display) e-display = strdup(getenv(DISPLAY)); else --- if (!display) { if ((str = getenv(DISPLAY))) e-display = strdup(str); } else Index: src/client/main.c === RCS file: /cvsroot/enlightenment/e17/apps/entrance/src/client/main.c,v retrieving revision 1.69 diff -r1.69 main.c 770,780c770,790 if (!session-config-engine) e = ecore_evas_software_x11_new(NULL, 0, 0, 0, g_x, g_y); #ifdef HAVE_ECORE_GL_X11 else if (session-config-engine) e = ecore_evas_gl_x11_new(NULL, 0, 0, 0, g_x, g_y); #endif else { fprintf(stderr, Warning: Invalid Evas engine specified in config. Defaulting to software engine.\n); e = ecore_evas_software_x11_new(NULL, 0, 0, 0, g_x, g_y); --- switch (session-config-engine) { case 1: if (ecore_evas_engine_type_supported_get(ECORE_EVAS_ENGINE_GL_X11)) { e = ecore_evas_gl_x11_new(NULL, 0, 0, 0, g_x, g_y); break; } fprintf(stderr, Warning: Evas GL engine: engine not supported. Defaulting to software engine.\n); case 0: e = ecore_evas_software_x11_new(NULL, 0, 0, 0, g_x, g_y); break; default: fprintf(stderr, Warning: Invalid Evas engine specified in config. Defaulting to software engine.\n); e = ecore_evas_software_x11_new(NULL, 0, 0, 0, g_x, g_y); break; } if (!e) { fprintf(stderr, Critical error: No Evas engine available. Exiting.\n); return (-1); __ Corey Donohoe http://www.atmos.org -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Problems with building engage from cvs
On Tue 01 Mar 2005, Michael Jennings wrote: On Tuesday, 01 March 2005, at 09:55:04 (+), Andrew Elcock wrote: 2 choices here - crawl back into your hole or read the error message before commenting. Hi, welcome to Missing the Point. Population: You. Perhaps my recent e-mails will help your comprehension. I recommend reading them. Michael Oh lookie lookie, fun flamefest on e-devel! Where's my popcorn? (Sorry, trying to get everyone to lighten up a little. It's not such a BIG issue anyway.) -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com I will stand on my watch, and set me on the tower, and will watch to see what he will say to me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved. --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [Fwd: Re: [E-devel] Ewl and Ecore main loop]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nigel Benns wrote: | This is becoming a pain. :( | | If everything else didn't work 100% without any screwing around I would | probably have given up already. | | I received a response from the Mono list that they use SIGPWR for their | garbage collector. | | And that is interfering with this line: | | _ecore_signal_callback_set(SIGPWR, (Signal_Handler) SIG_DFL); | | causing any managed application that calls ecore_init() directly or | indirectly (such as ewl_init()) to not shutdown properly. | | I comment out the line in Ecore and recompile and BAM it works fine. | I just want to know what the callback is used for. Is it for an Ecore | garbage collector? I have a workaround for now... But I don't like it. | I have to call ecore_shutdown() directly to kill it, and then I get a | Power Failure message. | | Everything else works so good tho... well except one thing | | I had to rename a Ewl_Text to Label so that I could use a Text property, | as object orientation doesn't allow a property as the same name as a | class. Other then that, everything is API Compatable. | Since I am completely unfamiliar with C#/Mono ... is there a define that can be checked to determine if we're in a C# environment so that the signal handler can be initialized conditionally? - -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB1t6qImU2r6Etn78RAmgPAJ9+jDod3SxyBDetu2BooElLuzaKJwCdEbxN p/qAn104xSWvCJlGD6Xn6ho= =GILl -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Engage: Esmart_Trans Error and other problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ralf Angeli wrote: | Hello everybody, | | Engage looks really nice and I wanted to give it a try. I checked out | the E17 sources and Engage from CVS a few days ago and compiled them. | | So far so good. Now for the problems: When I start engage from a | terminal without options it return the following (error) messages: | | WARNING: not a utf8 locale! | Esmart_Trans Error: Could not read root window pixmap property! | Esmart_Trans Error: Cannot create transparency pixmap: no valid | wallpaper and no background color set. | am a system tray :) :) | | Instead of being transparent it draws a black rectangle onto the | background inside of which I can see a small grey rectangle with the | icons I added. This happens with the Blackbox window manager (version | 0.65.0) and E17 which are running on top of XFree86 provided by | Debian/unstable, a heavily patched version 4.3. | | When I call Engage with `engage -m 0', the Esmart_Trans Error | messages vanish and I get a transparent background (except for a grey | box which vanishes if one supplies the `-T 0' option). Unfortunately | there remain artifacts when one hovers with the mouse over the icons. | That means when you move the mouse away again from the icons, you can | still see what was drawn onto the screen when the icon was zoomed and | the description was displayed. All of this doesn't happen if I start | X without a window manager. | | Are these known problems with certain window managers? What can I do | about it? | Blackbox does not conform to NetWM standards for desktop backgrounds, hence your problem. E17 is still in pre-alpha, does not set a desktop background property, and will not support fake transparency - you'll have to wait until an Engage module for E17 is released. Solution: Use Enlightenment DR16. - -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB1bhYImU2r6Etn78RAgVDAKCunZxLNlxa9rsfVH8Pz8kZKZYagQCdENkJ +aUoDPJnsZPw9MpoFYP0stI= =ASox -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by: Beat the post-holiday blues Get a FREE limited edition SourceForge.net t-shirt from ThinkGeek. It's fun and FREE -- well, almosthttp://www.thinkgeek.com/sfshirt ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] entranced: Feature Request
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Hyman wrote: | On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 17:55 -0500, Corey Donohoe wrote: | | |Have you looked into entrance_edit ? | | | entrance_edit just prints a warning and exits. It does nothing. | | $ entrance_edit /etc/X11/entrance_config.db | WARNING: not a utf8 locale! | $ | | Of course, I am in the US. | | --help does nothing either. | | Obviously, | /* Basic ecore initialization */ |if (!ecore_init()) | return (-1); | | does not like me! | | OK! I really should be more diligent with reading my email. :) Entranced will get your feature request, when the config system overhaul is done. As it is right now there are certain ecore_config deficiencies preventing that from happening, most notably the lack of support for lists and combo (multiple choice) items. Help is needed in this area, so if anyone would like to work a patch for ecore_config to improve this, I'll buy you a tin of cookies. :) But until the config system overhaul is done, I don't want to tack on many of these new features. They will be a hack job, and you know our motto is to do things right the first time. - -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBwFV1ImU2r6Etn78RAqNsAJ41j0X9fNShWLjY1f5SxpuAiWnOfACfYXA0 N8s9NHMiwzkn7ZgHg5RYXcs= =uTIv -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] init.d/entrance script BUG?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Hyman wrote: | This script terminates the daemon PID, but that does not kill the | entrance application, or X. | | Running entrance stop results in erratic system behavior | I don't know for sure why this is, but when you kill the entranced PID it always terminates the X server and session before exiting. Anyone else noticing this behavior? - -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBwFXDImU2r6Etn78RAgdDAJ9jJmqpBxcLQGzKkOCogj1m7HohfwCeP8bp 3t84EbNJypxt38ZSpkP6wiw= =DqMH -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Entrance and Entranced
Peter Hyman said: On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 18:18 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 04:09:42 -0500 Peter Hyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: snip entranced is the respawner daemon. it starts X ANd when X is ready to accept clients launches entrance. entrance uses the CONFIGURATION to determine theme etc. so if you want to change theme - edit the configuration (edb_ed will work for example) /etc/entrance_config.db for now is the config and you use edb_ed to delete/set/get keys in the file (its key/value pair) this may change in the future so don't bank your entire life on it never changing how ti does its config :) Yes, I have heard that db files may change. I will ignore the part of the documentation about the command line interface for entrance. I suppose, I could always kill the entrance process and restart that way. I am trying to see this from a user's POV. I look forward to the config process changing. It could easier! -- Peter Yes, I currently have a configuration overhaul for entrance in progress. Right now the major holdup is the lack of certain vital features in ecore_config (notably lists and combo items), but hopefully this should be ready sooner rather than later. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Simple sound effects
Bug #008: http://xcomputerman.com/bugs/view_bug_page.php?f_id=008 On Thu 30 Sep 2004, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 19:06:24 -0400 Bart Elberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I am looking to add sound effects to an Edje-based application and noticed a lack of support in EFL for playing audio clips - other than Emotion. There are obviously many ways to do this and I have no problem implementing a solution. My question is whether anyone is working on a simple audio library for EFL or planning on integrating sound effects into Edje, EWL, etc.? at this stage i know of no-one working on something. there's 3 parts of an audio engine to look at. 1. loading of formats (eg, mp3, ogg, wav, etc.) in such a way that its fairly abstract and the code doesn't care how its really encoded. 2. is the audio device output handler - feeding the audio device cleanly, handling multiple audio devices, perhaps multiple opens for mixing etc. 3. is the audio mixing and control engine. EG: you want to play a sample but have it start fast and slow down in speed (and thus lower pitch) with a given envelope. you may want to string a sequence of samples together. basically programmatic sequencer or tracker (remember fasttracker2, protracker, soundtracker, etc.) http://www.metadecks.org/software/remix/ kind of solves these. it looks a it complex - that's because it can do a lot. imho with a bit of wrapping into EFL it should solve it entirely. the problem is no-one has done anything to do stuff with sound yet. so for now it's a DIY area that we haven't covered :( -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?$BMg9%B? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (?$BEl5~ ?$BF|K\) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Re: E CVS: libs/ecore tsauerbeck
On Fri 27 Aug 2004, Shish wrote: Log Message: added ecore_evas_gl_x11_window_get() Is this not redundant? It doesn't do anything different from software_x11_window_get() as far as I can see. Feels like unneeded bloat. Yes, but the function name clearly indicates that its specific to the engine that's used so it makes sense to have an extra function for the GLX11 engine. Which reminds me of something - why is it the app's job to decide which display engine to use? I would have thought it better to have a generic window_get() function for the apps to call, and based on the user config, it either returns a software_x11 or a gl_x11 window (or framebuffer, etc). That way the engine can be set globally or in the per-app config.db, but the user always has the choice of whether to use software or hardware rendering based on their hardware at the time, rather than it being hard coded. Um, most EFL-based apps currently in CVS already have a config/command line option to select which engine to use. It's a matter of a simple if statement at window creation time. And not all apps can use all engines. For example, Entrance could not use the linuxfb or directfb engines, for obvious reasons. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047alloc_id=10808op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Re: E CVS: apps/entrance raster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Enlightenment CVS committal Author : raster Project : e17 Module : apps/entrance Dir : e17/apps/entrance/src/client Modified Files: entrance_ipc.c Log Message: make the dir if it doesnt exist! Bleh... I'm slow on getting to these things now that I am without Internet access. Anyways.. 1. I didn't add code to make the dir because the directory should be automatically created by mkinstalldirs. Correct me if I'm wrong. 2. Did you just create an E17 theme? I've *gotta* see this. :) -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idG21alloc_id040op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Re: E CVS: apps/entrance raster
Michael Jennings said: On Thursday, 29 July 2004, at 01:12:19 (-0700), E CVS List wrote: put things in the right dirs === RCS file: /cvsroot/enlightenment/e17/apps/entrance/config/pam.d/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.3 retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -3 -r1.3 -r1.4 --- Makefile.am 20 Jul 2004 18:32:35 - 1.3 +++ Makefile.am 29 Jul 2004 08:12:19 - 1.4 @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ EXTRA_DIST = entrance -pamdir = $(prefix)/../$(sysconfdir)/pam.d +pamdir = $(sysconfdir)/pam.d pam_DATA = entrance put things in the right dirs === RCS file: /cvsroot/enlightenment/e17/apps/entrance/config/init.d/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.2 retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -3 -r1.2 -r1.3 --- Makefile.am 20 Jul 2004 18:32:35 - 1.2 +++ Makefile.am 29 Jul 2004 08:12:19 - 1.3 @@ -1,3 +1,3 @@ -initdir = $(prefix)/../$(sysconfdir)/init.d +initdir = $(sysconfdir)/init.d init_SCRIPTS = entrance # Install permissions need to be 744 I changed these for a reason. make distcheck (at least for autoconf 2.13/automake 1.4) changes the $(prefix) value instead of properly setting $DESTDIR. Since $(sysconfdir) does not reference $(prefix), make distcheck fails trying to write to the real /etc. If someone has a better idea, I'm all ears. Michael I did receive a complaint about files (notably /etc/pam.d/entrance) not being installed during make install, and this is most likely why. I believe there should be a better solution ... this doesn't appear to be a very clean hack (does this work if $prefix is two dirs deep, for example?). I'm not an autofools expert and I don't have internet access at home for the time being, so hopefully someone can sort this out. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] sound in E is more quiet than in KDE
On Thu 08 Jul 2004, Anton wrote: I have tested it on xmms-arts, gxine. Is that normal? I have checkbox enable sound enabled. Did you consider the fact that KDE might be setting your mixer values for you on startup? -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Better GUI with e17
On Tue 15 Jun 2004, Cristalle Azundris Sabon wrote: I'd *love* a textbox that could evaluate statements as well as just take text directly. e-macs? : ) The EFL wasn't created for writing yet another OS. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by The 2004 JavaOne(SM) Conference Learn from the experts at JavaOne(SM), Sun's Worldwide Java Developer Conference, June 28 - July 1 at the Moscone Center in San Francisco, CA REGISTER AND SAVE! http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf Priority Code NWMGYKND ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] debianized evoak
+ Evoak is a canvas server. This is similar to an X server that serves out a + display and graphics operations. Evoak servers out a single canvas to be + shared by multiple applications (clients) allowing each client to manipulate + its set of objects. I'm not sure the comparison to an X server is appropriate. It is more likely to confuse users as to the real purpose of the package. Also I'd reword that second sentence as Evoak manages a single canvas that can be shared by multiple client applications followed by something about remote/local and/or the elimination of the need for each app to use its own window. You probably want to ask Carsten for a proper description. :) -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source Desktop Event. GNOME Users and Developers European Conference, 28-30th June in Norway http://2004/guadec.org ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: Re: [E-devel] e16menuedit not working?
On Thu 27 May 2004, Corey Donohoe wrote: * Andreas Volz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Am Thu, 27 May 2004 09:55:27 -0500 schrieb Corey Donohoe: * Andreas Volz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, While trying to port e16menuedit to gtk2 I notices that it isn't working with at least CVS version of E. I can change menus and save in e16menuedit, but they doesn't change in Enlighenment menu. I tried also to remove ./enlightenment/cache/* and restart E, but nothing changes. $ eesh help all ... reload_menus: Reload menus.cfg without restarting (Asmodean_) ... so maybe fork and exec eesh -e 'reload_menus'? I'm guessing on both of these replies :) It didn't work. Now I copied menus.cfg from /usr/share/enlightenment to ~/.enlightenment and edited it with an editor and so I can change entries. But why didn't e16menuedit work? Now I found out e16menuedit edit file.menu and not menus.cfg. If I make a link to menus.cfg e16menuedit segfaults. Is e16menuedit not useable for menus.cfg and the prefered way is currently to use an editor for changing menus? Sorry for the bad advice. I do recall that up until 0.16.7-preX using e16menuedit would immediately update your menus w/o havnig to restart E. It's not doing that anymore, atleast not on the pre2 I installed from pr0tage. I guess we'll have to wait for some input from raster/kwo/mandrake as they might know how to fix it or why it's not working correctly anymore. That stopped working at some point, and I distinctly remember notifying Kim about it, and he fixed it right there and then within a few minutes. I'd be surprised if it stopped working again -- but I haven't updated e in a couple of weeks so I'd have to check on that later. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149alloc_id=8166op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Re: [e-users] ENTRANCE: login failed
Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: John Charnas wrote: mafi wrote: Hello, When i'm try to login with entrance, it's seems that my X session stops at once. syslog gives me the following informations : May 11 09:02:52 nemesis entrance: PAM: Success. May 11 09:02:53 nemesis entrance: Executing /etc/X11/Xsession May 11 09:02:53 nemesis entrance_ipc_shutdown: Success May 11 09:02:53 nemesis entrance: Starting session for user mafi. May 11 09:02:54 nemesis Ecore_Event_Exe_Exit triggered. May 11 09:02:54 nemesis Processing Event. May 11 09:02:53 nemesis entranced: The session has ended normally. May 11 09:02:54 nemesis SIGUSR event triggered. May 11 09:02:54 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. May 11 09:02:54 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode May 11 09:02:54 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode May 11 09:02:57 nemesis Starting command: /usr/local/bin/entrance_wrapper -d :0 -z 1231 May 11 09:02:58 nemesis Respawn timer reset. May 11 09:03:01 nemesis SIGUSR event triggered. May 11 09:03:01 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. May 11 09:03:01 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode May 11 09:03:01 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode yeah, I've had the same problem. Entrance is broken for the moment, or so someone last told me on #edevelop. I don't know what exactly triggers the problem, and I'm not even sure it's fixed in CVS at the moment. So, in the meantime, either use gdm or xdm (xdm=ugly)... That's as much as I can tell you. I have added a command line option for entranced --disable-xauth to temporarily relieve this problem. There is something wrong with the Xauth code currently that is causing the X server to reject connections from the authenticated user, and I hope I will be able to get around to sitting down with the code again and finding out what it is soon. In the mean time, update from CVS and run entranced with the --disable-xauth option, and you should be able to login fine. This bug should be fixed in CVS. If you're still experiencing problems logging in, nuke your ~/.Xauthority file and then restart entranced. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562alloc_id=6184op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Re: [e-users] ENTRANCE: login failed
John Charnas wrote: mafi wrote: Hello, When i'm try to login with entrance, it's seems that my X session stops at once. syslog gives me the following informations : May 11 09:02:52 nemesis entrance: PAM: Success. May 11 09:02:53 nemesis entrance: Executing /etc/X11/Xsession May 11 09:02:53 nemesis entrance_ipc_shutdown: Success May 11 09:02:53 nemesis entrance: Starting session for user mafi. May 11 09:02:54 nemesis Ecore_Event_Exe_Exit triggered. May 11 09:02:54 nemesis Processing Event. May 11 09:02:53 nemesis entranced: The session has ended normally. May 11 09:02:54 nemesis SIGUSR event triggered. May 11 09:02:54 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. May 11 09:02:54 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode May 11 09:02:54 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode May 11 09:02:57 nemesis Starting command: /usr/local/bin/entrance_wrapper -d :0 -z 1231 May 11 09:02:58 nemesis Respawn timer reset. May 11 09:03:01 nemesis SIGUSR event triggered. May 11 09:03:01 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. May 11 09:03:01 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode May 11 09:03:01 nemesis kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode yeah, I've had the same problem. Entrance is broken for the moment, or so someone last told me on #edevelop. I don't know what exactly triggers the problem, and I'm not even sure it's fixed in CVS at the moment. So, in the meantime, either use gdm or xdm (xdm=ugly)... That's as much as I can tell you. I have added a command line option for entranced --disable-xauth to temporarily relieve this problem. There is something wrong with the Xauth code currently that is causing the X server to reject connections from the authenticated user, and I hope I will be able to get around to sitting down with the code again and finding out what it is soon. In the mean time, update from CVS and run entranced with the --disable-xauth option, and you should be able to login fine. -Ibukun --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562alloc_id=6184op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] compilation error with etox in cvs
Didier Casse wrote: On 10/05/04, at 14:16 +0800, Didier Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Etox still failed to compile with the new cvs snapshot today... Did anybody have the same problem? And does anybody know why it's looking for config.h.in?? config.h.in has disappeared from cvs! I digged some old cvs snapshot to find in and when I placed the file back ni the tree everything worked. But dudes put it back in cvs! :-p config.h.in is automatically generated by autoheader from configure.in. If it isn't getting generated during autogen then something must be wrong with your autoconf/automake installation. There is no config.h.in anywhere in the e17/ repository in CVS. Ibukun --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] entice fixes
You're building Entice against the outdated Esmart in e17/proto/esmart. Esmart has been moved to e17/libs/esmart and is now a collection of libraries, rather than a single library. Did you get the memo about this? --Ibukun Jeremy Kolb wrote: Now sure what do do here, but I made some fixes to get entice to compile. Here are the diffs to the latest CVS. Index: entice.c === RCS file: /cvsroot/enlightenment/e17/apps/entice/src/bin/entice.c,v retrieving revision 1.55 diff -r1.55 entice.c 13c13 #include Esmart/Esmart_Trans_X11.h --- #include Esmart/Esmart_Trans.h Index: main.c === RCS file: /cvsroot/enlightenment/e17/apps/entice/src/bin/main.c,v retrieving revision 1.30 diff -r1.30 main.c 13c13 #include Esmart/Esmart_Trans_X11.h --- #include Esmart/Esmart_Trans.h Index: Makefile.am === RCS file: /cvsroot/enlightenment/e17/apps/entice/src/bin/Makefile.am,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -r1.6 Makefile.am 25,28c25 -lesmart_container \ -lesmart_draggies \ -lesmart_thumb \ -lesmart_trans_x11 \ --- -lesmart \ Jeremy --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] ecore_event_add
On Sun 02 May 2004, Gen Zhang wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I quote from source: /** * Add an event to the event queue. * @param type The event type to add to the end of the event queue * @param ev The private data structure for this event type * @param func_free The function to be called to free this private structure * @param data The data pointer to be passed to the free function * @return A Handle for that event * * On success this function returns a handle to an event on the event queue, or * NULL if it fails. If it succeeds, an event of type @p type will be added * to the queue for processing by event handlers added by * ecore_event_handler_add(). The @p ev parameter will be a pointer to the event * private data that is specific to that event type. When the event is no * longer needed, @p func_free will be called and passed the private sructure * pointer for cleaning up. If @p func_free is NULL, nothnig will be called. * This function is passed @p data as its data parameter. */ I am confused as to what happens if func_free is NULL. nothing will be called. Is that supposed to be a failure condition (as the following code seems to indicate) or is the doc wrong? If func_free is NULL, then ecore's generic event free function is used. This is OK as long as your event struct does not contain any dynamically allocated data such as strings etc., which would cause memory leaks. So the rule is if you have a pointer to malloc'ed data like a string or a struct, you write your own free function that will make sure those pointers are freed before freeing the event itself. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] ecore_x_window_prop_property_notify
On Thu 29 Apr 2004, Gen Zhang wrote: In the current CVS there is a function called ecore_x_window_prop_property_notify which is commented out, with a comment about it being useless. It is actually used by freedesktop.org standards to send so-called X messages. I believe Kim commented it out because normally a client that wishes to be notified of property changes to a window should set the event mask and allow X to send the PropertyNotify messages - that should be X's job, not the client application. However in the context of the NetWM specs (as well as ICCCM - selection stuff), I do recall certain situations where manual property notification is necessary. I'll have to read into it more to clarify -- can't do that at the moment. I do plan to add a couple of functions for sending X client messages to ecore_x, that may or may not help matters. Regards, genneth -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [E-devel] e17: new sugested cvs build list
On Tue 27 Apr 2004, Carlos Alberto Morales Ramirez wrote: hey, I'm compilling e17/libs and I have noticed that some packages aren't included in the list, and some others have changed its dependencies (like smart) and now others have to be compilled before those ones (edje before smart) e17/libs: (NOTE 1) e17/libs/imlib2 e17/libs/edb e17/libs/eet e17/libs/imlib2_loaders e17/libs/evas (NOTE 2) e17/libs/ecore e17/libs/epeg e17/libs/embryo e17/libs/epsilon e17/libs/edje e17/proto/esmart Esmart is due to be moved into libs (pending a couple of major changes to the way it is built and loaded, which will require a couple of minor API changes other than those already done, and definitely require recompiling). e17/libs/ewd EWD is gone. It is now part of Ecore (see Ecore_Data.h). e17/libs/estyle e17/libs/etox e17/libs/ewl NOTE 1: Some libs apparently doesn't are updated when 'make install' is done, and 'ldconfig' would be needed to update the register Which libs? NOTE 2: Evas has some new features at configure time, and it may be a good idea to verify if some of them should be included at the NOTE for Evas. Evas now automatically includes all of the features you need at configure, so actually you don't need to pass any configure options. The only thing you might still want to do is specify custom compiler flags to improve performance (-march etc.). -- Ing. Carlos Alberto Morales Ramirez Instituto Tecnologico de Mexicali Mexicali, B.C. Mexico PS: BTW, i'm trying to learn how to use imlib2 from docs, but they are out of date, and some examples doesn't work http://www.atmos.org/docs/imlib2/ I used that, and it certainly isn't out of date. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com God is dead. - Nietzche Nietzche is dead. - God pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [E-devel] another small bug in entrance
On Mon 16 Feb 2004, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:23:52 +0100 Jochen Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi guys, I encountered another minor bug with entrance. Entrance locks up when I swih to a differnt VT and back. I submitted a bugreport to http://xcomputerman.com/bugs see there for all the details (not much really) yeah. i've noticed that too... you're not alone. sorry - no time to debug that atm - got enuf other things to do. Have I ever mentioned how much I *hate* vt switching bugs? -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Evas GL Engine and DRI (tdfx)
Mind sending a backtrace? The info below isn't very helpful. Daniel Hansen said: I have been trying to get the evas gl engine to work on my voodoo3, but for some reason evas segfaults every time. I ran evas_gl_x11_test under gdb with this output: Starting program: /usr/bin/evas_gl_x11_test [New Thread 16384 (LWP 6381)] GL: create info... GL: setup info... GL: gl window setup done. GL EXT supported: GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap = 0 GL EXT supported: GL_NV_texture_rectangle = 0 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 6381)] 0x406e50a7 in extract_float_rgba () from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so By this, I am assuming it has something to do with my dri drivers. Is this a known bug, and if so what can be done. Also, is this most likely a problem with dri, or evas? Thanks in advance for any input. Daniel Hansen --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Priorities!
Hello everyone, I believe it is time we all got together and had a serious discussion about the direction of the Enlightenment project -- where we are going, what needs to be done, and what priorities we need to set to get there. At this point I have come to a conclusion that too many people are spending too much time and effort on the wrong things. For example, take a look at the last week of commits: eplayer and elicit account for around 75-80% of all the commit messages posted to E-CVS! We've got at least 3 people actively working on eplayer, meanwhile, ewl has only Nathan, evas is getting very little attention save the few moments raster can spare these days, Andy and I could certainly use some assistance with ecore, and important libraries like etox are getting left out in the cold altogether. Solution: We need to define where we are going properly, and determine how we are going to get there. We need to draw up an official roadmap document that will be put on the web site for all to see. This document should be detailed enough to outline each component of the next-generation E project and articulate what needs to be done and how much of a priority it has. Everybody needs to know the most important things that need to be done so that we're not just all randomly coding at whatever seems to be the newest little app in CVS. I understand that E17 is likely to arrive in CVS shortly pending a few TODO items by raster. Before that happens we need to be clear on what needs to be done, or that effort (which is really the flagship product of this project) will ultimately end up being stunted and fall short of what it really could achieve. A suggestion has been made for a town hall meeting on IRC (#edevelop on Freenode) at a fixed time when we can all converge together and discuss this matter. At the same time, we need to begin to put this in writing, so that by the time we are done with deliberations, we have a solid draft of what we're looking to do and we can post that on the web site. Persons wishing to join the development effort but not knowing where to begin can look at this roadmap document as a starting reference point, and existing developers can know where they need to focus their efforts now. Eplayer and Elicit are both great apps, but right now they're far more attention than is expedient for the project at this point in time. Two things we need to get straight right now: 1. If this town hall meeting should happen, and at what time; 2. A list of items that should be considered priorities for the project to help set a proper focus for the discussion. Your input is appreciated. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thygetting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356alloc_id=3438op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Entrance with Opengl engine
On Mon 09 Feb 2004, Philip Gary Hansen wrote: I have tried the opengl engine with entrance on my system and it runs really well, with only one noticeable problem, I am not able to type in anything for the username box. I was just wondering if anyone else had been able to get this to work and if there was any way that I might be able to fix this. Everything else about it works great. Thanks in advance. This is a known issue which I have personally experienced. The Evas GL engine is still unsupported so if I were you I wouldn't count on a fix anytime soon. :) Phil -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Entrance with Opengl engine
On Tue 10 Feb 2004, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 22:07:36 -0600 Ibukun Olumuyiwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon 09 Feb 2004, Philip Gary Hansen wrote: I have tried the opengl engine with entrance on my system and it runs really well, with only one noticeable problem, I am not able to type in anything for the username box. I was just wondering if anyone else had been able to get this to work and if there was any way that I might be able to fix this. Everything else about it works great. Thanks in advance. This is a known issue which I have personally experienced. The Evas GL engine is still unsupported so if I were you I wouldn't count on a fix anytime soon. :) NB: the evas gl engine does work fine with edje and a bunch of other apps i have here... :) (except for my previous list of known nasties) True...this seems to be a unique situation probably not unrelated to vt-switching/X initialization. It could also be a driver-specific issue, since it works fine in test mode under a normal X session. Would be nice to get GL issues resolved too ... animation is generally much smoother and nicer with GL than software when there's lots of frames involved. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?$B7'* - ?$BV7/ (?$B?tED) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tokyo, Japan (?$BEl5~ ?$BF|K\) -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] minor entrance bug
On Tue 03 Feb 2004, Jochen Schroeder wrote: Hi all, after successfully getting entrance working thanks to you guys, I noticed a very minor bug (at least I think it's a bug). When setting the name of /entrance/session/0/title to something different than Default, entrance will not display the icon anymore, and I get an X error message: Default not found Thanks for the report. Please remember to file bugs found at the BugTracker (http://xcomputerman.com/bugs/). Cheers Jochen Regards, -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] minor entrance bug
On Wed 04 Feb 2004, Michael Jennings wrote: On Wednesday, 04 February 2004, at 14:47:53 (-0600), Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: Of course. It's just a suggestion, makes life easier :) When only developers or skilled/clueful users can open bugs, I tend to agree. But when anybody can open (and re-open) bugs at will, things can really start to suck ass. See also: SourceForge. Point well taken. However I think for now it is OK to allow registered users to report bugs. If that privilege is abused, then we can always downgrade new users to viewer status so that they will need to request reporting privileges from an admin before opening/re-opening bugs. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] entrance problems
Jochen Schroeder said: Hi all, I know this is developer code and I'm essentially on my own, but I#m not sure if this might be a bug or just my inaptness. I#m having a problem with entrance pulled from cvs jan 24th. There is no mouse pointer. It happens with both entrance --test or entranced. The mouse pointer is not displayed, I still get mouse events, like the off button in the default theme lighting up when the mouse is moving over it, but I can't see the pointer. I'm using the nvidia binary drivers, and I thought it might be an issue with hardware rendering of the mouse pointer, so I tried disabling hardware rendering for the mouse pointer, to no avail. I googled around but couldn't really find a solution for the problem. There are no errors in /var/log/Xfree86.0.log either, so I'm out of ideas. I'm running a from scratch system with a vanilla Xfree-4.3. I'm happy to provide more info if needed. Cheers Jochen A few possibilities: - PNG loaders are not working (this means that either your libpng installation is broken, or your evas build is). You can verify this by running evas_software_x11_test ... if you don't see the images displayed properly (plain blocks instead of colorful images) then this is your problem. - Your entrance installation is somehow broken. The pointer image file, pointer.png should be installed into $prefix/share/entrance/images/. If it isn't there then you have a problem (did you make install, by the way?). Do the icons for the session types show up in your session menu? - (Unlikely) You edited $sysconfdir/entrance_config.db (or the associated script in the source directory) and added an entry for /entrance/pointer, which is bad. -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://www.xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \ --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Enlightenment BugTracker
Hi, For those who haven't been around #edevelop in the past couple of days, I set up a bug tracker on my webserver on Monday for Enlightenment projects. For now this is still a test run, and suggestions have been made about the feasibility of running it on the SF web server or other options ... for now I don't mind hosting it since I have enough bandwidth. Please log in to the site, register and use it to report bugs and issues with various projects under development. If you are an active developer, after registering please contact me or any of the other site administrators (Raster, Ben, Nathan, Corey or Brian) so that you can be given appropriate privileges. Project administrators should get full admin status, others developer access. So far we have registered 12 projects and 16 bug reports, and it seems to be running quite smoothly. I have also enabled anonymous access so you can browse and view the site contents without having to register first. The address is: http://xcomputerman.com/bugs/ If you encounter any issues (especially with passwords) please email me. The one issue with password mailouts appears to have been resolved, but I'd like to know if it pops up again. Cheers, -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://www.xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \ --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment BugTracker
Andrew Elcock said: In All projects listing view could it say to which project a bug belongs? Yes it does, under the ID column. Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: Hi, For those who haven't been around #edevelop in the past couple of days, I set up a bug tracker on my webserver on Monday for Enlightenment projects. For now this is still a test run, and suggestions have been made about the feasibility of running it on the SF web server or other options ... for now I don't mind hosting it since I have enough bandwidth. Please log in to the site, register and use it to report bugs and issues with various projects under development. If you are an active developer, after registering please contact me or any of the other site administrators (Raster, Ben, Nathan, Corey or Brian) so that you can be given appropriate privileges. Project administrators should get full admin status, others developer access. So far we have registered 12 projects and 16 bug reports, and it seems to be running quite smoothly. I have also enabled anonymous access so you can browse and view the site contents without having to register first. The address is: http://xcomputerman.com/bugs/ If you encounter any issues (especially with passwords) please email me. The one issue with password mailouts appears to have been resolved, but I'd like to know if it pops up again. Cheers, -- Andrew Elcocktel: 0131 651 1434 EDINA, Edinburgh University Data Library fax: 0131 650 3308 Main Library Building, George Square email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Edinburgh EH8 9LJ, Scotland, UK www:http://edina.ac.uk/ I spent four years at uni and all I got was this lousy piece of paper -- Andrew Elcock -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://www.xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \ --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Ping!
Test, please ignore. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Apparent bug with ecore_evas_borderless_get
For some reason in iconbar's iconbar_config_free() function, the call to ecore_evas_borderless_get() returns -1 instead of 1. This value is then saved to the config db. This doesn't make any sense especially since the property is stored as a single-bit char. I am inclined to believe the bug is in iconbar itself, but it could possibly be with ecore_evas. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Apparent bug with ecore_evas_borderless_get
On Sat 17 Jan 2004, Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: For some reason in iconbar's iconbar_config_free() function, the call to ecore_evas_borderless_get() returns -1 instead of 1. This value is then saved to the config db. This doesn't make any sense especially since the property is stored as a single-bit char. I am inclined to believe the bug is in iconbar itself, but it could possibly be with ecore_evas. Follow-up ... in my typical unrelenting character I eventually tracked down the bug to ecore_evas ... trying to directly return the property value from a bit char sets all bits in the variable to 1, hence the -1 value. Using conditionals instead corrects the problem. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Ecore TXT module build problems
On Fri 09 Jan 2004, Kim Woelders wrote: Ibukun Olumuyiwa wrote: That said, I have been thinking of the need to do a cleanup act on the autofoo in many of the modules to eliminate the warnings and complaints usually output by autoconf 2.5x. For example, eliminating the use of acconfig.h, adding the description parameter to AC_DEFINEs etc. It is actually quite trivial to eliminate these warnings in most cases. I think that would be a really good thing to do. It makes it much easier to spot when there really is a problem. Also, I suggest to keep the .cvsignore files updated to make CVS quiet when updating. This makes it much easier to see what has changed since last update. I have attached a patch that shuts up CVS for entrance. Thanks! In CVS. And finally, is there any reason to put install-sh, missing, and mkinstalldirs in CVS? I thought they were supposed to be installed by autosomething. An oversight in the initial import that was never really realized ... those files are gone now. It is purely coincidental that I have been referring to entrance, which just happened to be the thing I was looking at just now :) I'll try to do the autotools cleanup on entrance first, and make sure my gentoo-using friends who are still stuck with outdated autotools (df corey :) can still configure successfully before committing. /Kim -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Compliance Document
For Kim: I have requested the freedesktop.org developers to add Enlightenment to the list of EWMH-supporting window managers on the specification page, and they have done so. Currently there is a link to ewmh.c, but I thought it would be nicer if a COMPLIANCE document was written for formality's sake - perhaps you or someone else familiar with the state of ewmh support would want to do this. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perforce is the Fast Software Configuration Management System offering advanced branching capabilities and atomic changes on 50+ platforms. Free Eval! http://www.perforce.com/perforce/loadprog.html ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Ecore TXT module build problems
On Sun 04 Jan 2004, Michael Jennings wrote: On Sunday, 04 January 2004, at 21:10:34 (-0500), Mike Frysinger wrote: http://www.enlightenment.org/pages/cvsnotes.html KainX[#E] 'autotools e-bawt[#e] The best versions of the tools you need to build E and related software are as follows: autoconf 2.13, automake 1.4, libtool 1.4.2, gettext 0.10.38. As far as I know, this has not changed since the last time raster voiced his opinion on the subject. And unless raster says otherwise, anything else you may have heard is wrong. Yes, from my knowledge the presently advocated versions of autotools are 2.13 for autoconf and 1.4 for automake. This was why Nathan and I worked so hard to resolve this issue, and in the end, it turned out to be more or less a bug in autoconf 2.13 (barfing over nested macros). That said, I have been thinking of the need to do a cleanup act on the autofoo in many of the modules to eliminate the warnings and complaints usually output by autoconf 2.5x. For example, eliminating the use of acconfig.h, adding the description parameter to AC_DEFINEs etc. It is actually quite trivial to eliminate these warnings in most cases. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's Free Linux Tutorials. Learn everything from the bash shell to sys admin. Click now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1278alloc_id=3371op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Anti-aliased polygons
On Tue 30 Dec 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 01:30:02PM +0100, Cristalle Azundris Sabon wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any work going on with anti-aliased polygons in the software renderer? If not, I have some code. Are you guys interested? You wouldn't happen to have working code for elliptic pies also, would you? : ) Not as such. But you can draw anything with a polygon... :) Evas already has support for polygons. Does this code do anything particularly new? N --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's Free Linux Tutorials. Learn everything from the bash shell to sys admin. Click now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1278alloc_id=3371op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's Free Linux Tutorials. Learn everything from the bash shell to sys admin. Click now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1278alloc_id=3371op=click ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] OSXDocker
On Sun 09 Nov 2003, Gen Zhang wrote: Hi all: I'm trying to write a MacOSX docker work alike. I had it working... but then the API for ecore changed :( muchos rewritos follow(-os?) anyhow, i've found two little things nagging about the api: * mouse_{out,in} events for Ecore_Evas are NOT the same in-out of window that they used to be -- this was something that itched for a while before I finally clicked on ECORE_X_EVENT_MASK_MOUSE_(UP, DOWN, IN, OUT, MOVE) * there used to be a ecore_window_set_xy_hints -- what is the replacement? * applications can no longer capture mouse move events are the X layer -- no callback for mouse moves in evas_ecore -- thus I've had to create a transparent rectangle that captures all events and then reprocess them myself. I'm sure there's A Better Way(tm) but I'm too stupid to find it, pointers would be gratefully received. ecore_x_window_prop_xy_set() Looks like you haven't even touched ecore_x, have ya? :) Much of what you're doing should be done using ecore_x, not ecore_evas. I'm almost at the point of a release, so if anyone wants to test the code, give me a shout Post a link here, we do want to see it. :) -- 'Martyrdom' is the only way a person can become famous without ability. -- George Bernard Shaw genneth8691.wincoll.ac.uk Gentoo Linux, version 2.6.0-test8-mm1 -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] [evas and Edje X]
On Sat 08 Nov 2003, S?bastien HOUZE wrote: I'm trying to compile Edje (so Evas, Ecore and Eet) without need of Xlib linking (because I want pure directfb). I've seen that Imlib Had a recent patching in this optic in CVS, but before passing tons of time applying same treatment to other EFL, I would know if it's possible. Explaining : If I '#ifdef' the EFL code concerning X, could EFL compile easily without major architectural change ? Are you sure you compiled Evas without the --enable-software-x11 and --enable-gl-x11 configure options, and for Ecore, without --enable-ecore-x? S?bastien -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] (no subject)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Bcc: Subject: Re: [E-devel] e16.6 is out Reply-To: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu 06 Nov 2003, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 01:03:44 +0100 Kim Woelders [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Changes since e16.6-pre8: Don't overwrite file.menu and user_apps.menu when regenerating menus. Fixed click-to-focus bug introduced in pre8. Fixed problem with applications that de-iconify their windows introduced in pre5. Thanks to all for contributions, bug reports, testing, suggestions, and support! Have fun :-) ok cool. excellent! SUGOII! lets do announcement soon then on e.org and try to ignore the /.ing e.org will get :) Congratulations to everyone who made this release a success :) I think Kim deserves special compliements for the work he has done on this release :) -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] edc.vim
On Sun 26 Oct 2003, Yuri wrote: You can get it here: http://ict197.gratis.kg/imlib2/edc.vim.gz Help on installing syntax files: :help 44.11 Useful command are :set syntax=edc or :setf edc, you may edit filetypes.vim as well. Using this syntax file it's quite easy to find mistakes in edc files, like offset, -61, -1; in the latest e_logo.edc :) Wrong lines, i hope, will be unusually painted. Tested with vim61 on redhat 7.3 i386 bye! Thanks Yuri - I was really hoping someone would do this. Excellent piece of work :) -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. Do you like what SourceForge.net is doing for the Open Source Community? Make a contribution, and help us add new features and functionality. Click here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Configuring evas
On Mon 20 Oct 2003, Philip Gary Hansen wrote: Is there any way that I can check whether entrance is running in opengl? The reason I ask is because right now under the new edje version it runs a bit slow. I am using an NVidia geforce 4 right now so I would imagine that it would run better under gl. Entrance in CVS now includes a config option for enabling GL. As Carsten said, whereas GL should give you significantly improved performance (personally it works great for me), it is not a silver bullet and can have problems in complex/weird situations. In other words, GL is experimental, so don't report display bugs if you're running with the GL engine. To enable GL, set /entrance/engine to 1 in /etc/entrance_config.db (use edb_gtk_ed or edb_ed to set that). -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] configuring entrance
On Sun 19 Oct 2003, Alan Schmitt wrote: Hi, I wanted to play with entrance, and I am getting a hard time configuring it. What happens is that when I start entranced (as root, it segfaults when started as a user), I can enter my login and password, and basically entrance seems to restart (I see the console for a couple seconds, then X starts). For this try, I'm using the default configuration from cvs. I do not see any WM entry in the above screen (just a big turn off button that does not seem to do anything). I have the following in /var/log/messages: Oct 19 19:54:18 alan-schm1p entranced: Starting X server. Oct 19 19:54:24 alan-schm1p entranced: Starting Entrance. Oct 19 19:54:48 alan-schm1p entrance: PAM: Success. Oct 19 19:54:49 alan-schm1p entrance: Executing /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession Oct 19 19:54:49 alan-schm1p entrance: Starting session for user schmitta. Oct 19 19:54:49 alan-schm1p PAM_pwdb[28142]: (xdm) session opened for user schmitta by (uid=0) Oct 19 19:54:49 alan-schm1p PAM_pwdb[28142]: (xdm) session closed for user schmitta Oct 19 19:54:49 alan-schm1p ssh-agent[28238]: error: accept from AUTH_SOCKET: Socket operation on non-socket Oct 19 19:54:49 alan-schm1p last message repeated 608 times Oct 19 19:54:49 alan-schm1p entranced: The session has ended normally. Oct 19 19:54:49 alan-schm1p ssh-agent[28238]: error: accept from AUTH_SOCKET: Socket operation on non-socket Oct 19 19:54:54 alan-schm1p last message repeated 113582 times Oct 19 19:54:54 alan-schm1p entranced: Attempting to restart X server. Oct 19 19:54:54 alan-schm1p ssh-agent[28238]: error: accept from AUTH_SOCKET: Socket operation on non-socket Oct 19 19:54:59 alan-schm1p last message repeated 82889 times Oct 19 19:55:01 alan-schm1p entranced: Successfully restarted the X server. Oct 19 19:55:01 alan-schm1p entranced: Starting Entrance. Oct 19 19:56:55 alan-schm1p entranced: The session has ended normally. Oct 19 19:57:00 alan-schm1p entranced: Attempting to restart X server. Oct 19 19:57:06 alan-schm1p entranced: Successfully restarted the X server. Oct 19 19:57:06 alan-schm1p entranced: Starting Entrance. Oct 19 19:57:10 alan-schm1p entranced: The session has ended normally. Oct 19 19:57:13 alan-schm1p entranced: Attempting to restart X server. Oct 19 19:57:20 alan-schm1p entranced: Successfully restarted the X server. Oct 19 19:57:20 alan-schm1p entranced: Starting Entrance. Oct 19 19:57:20 alan-schm1p entranced: Display and display manager are shutting down. Anything I'm doing wrong ? Thanks for any hint, entrance looks very good ;-) Alan -- The hacker: someone who figured things out and made something cool happen. Firstly, session support is still very incomplete with the new edje-based architecture, so if you're having problems starting up your session, for now you're pretty much on your own. The errors reported by your ssh-agent are very suspect, especially since that error was repeated over 600 times within a fraction of a second if I read that right. That appears to be a local issue. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Configuring evas
On Mon 20 Oct 2003, Philip Gary Hansen wrote: Is there any way that I can check whether entrance is running in opengl? The reason I ask is because right now under the new edje version it runs a bit slow. I am using an NVidia geforce 4 right now so I would imagine that it would run better under gl. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel Err - oops. Set /entrance/engine to gl, not 1. Getting mixed up with entice_config.db here. :) -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] esmart not checking for Edje ?
On Sat 18 Oct 2003, Mike Frysinger wrote: Content-Description: signed data the configure.in script checks for evas, ecore, and imlib2 but doesnt check for edje even though it's used in src/container/container.h ... -mike Looks like an oversight. The reference has been removed. -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. - Proverbs 4:7 --- This SF.net email sponsored by: Enterprise Linux Forum Conference Expo The Event For Linux Datacenter Solutions Strategies in The Enterprise Linux in the Boardroom; in the Front Office; in the Server Room http://www.enterpriselinuxforum.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] RE: E CVS: apps/entrance jeoparde
On Sat 13 Sep 2003, John Miskinis wrote: I would say that assumption is not accurate (I have no RH8 or RH9 to check with so I do not know whether they do or not). On Redhat 9, Xsession is in /etc/X11/xdm/ if this helps... My primary suspicion here is that the Xsession file put in /etc/X11/xdm is actually part of the xdm package. Whereas there is no xdm package on Mandrake (and I assume Red Hat), being integrated into the XFree86 package itself, it isn't really much of an issue here. But I believe some other distributions, notably Debian do have xdm as an independent package. In that case, we certainly do not want to make Entrance dependent on xdm. So I guess the real question then is that do we stat() for the files, use configure or include our own Xsession file? On another note regarding entrance: I had a very bad experience with entrance causing X to respawn continuously, and lock me out of my system, requiring a power-off. I'd love to be able to use it, The spawner is in not-so-good shape right now. I am already in the middle of a rewrite based on ecore_ipc. Hopefully I should get it in working condition very soon so you can test, so hang in there :) John -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Etiquette question, sort of
On Wed 20 Aug 2003, Cristalle Azundris Sabon wrote: The Wanderer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A little more than a month ago, I sent a small and comparatively unimportant patch to the list. It appears to have been ignored. Ordinarily, I'd take that as meaning this thing has no value, don't bother us with such twaddle, but given the almost complete lack of traffic at the time I'm not entirely sure the patch even got noticed. What is the appropriate thing to do in such circumstances? While I can't tell with absolute certainty (as you did not mention what the patch was about) what happened in that particular instance, it usually means people looked at it, and everybody thought it was in somebody else's bailiwick. I know that especially with e16 patches I sometimes think, oh, this looks useful, I hope Kim will bless it. IOW, there was probably no offence intended, sorry if we came across as rude, input being ignored like that it obviously less than ideal. : ( regards, Azundris Did a searchback for his mail. The patch was for Esetroot, and was supposed to fix a perceivedly unintuitive behavior in flipping or something like that. So that's probably in Kim's domain, but I know he has been very busy with E16 over the past couple of months so I'm not surprised if a small patch ended up unnoticed. Personally I don't think there's any harm trying to call attention to a submitted patch if it hasn't been replied to. I remember committing someone's Entrance patch some time ago and forgetting to let them know that it was done already, until the person complained months later. -- http://www.azundris.com/ -- Ibukun Olumuyiwa http://xcomputerman.com Beware the lightning that lurketh in an undischarged capacitor, lest it cause thee to be bounced upon thy buttocks in a most ungentlemanly manner. -- The Ten Commandments of Electronics, Author Unknown --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] mouse wheel z-value
On Fri 30 May 2003, Yuri wrote: I'd like to know why 4th button means z=1 and 5th z=-1 and not otherwise :) It seems to me a little bit alogic. 1 = up, -1 = down... :) i guess :) it's a bit arbitary :) piece of my code: if (ee-z 0){ h++; if(h == 24) h = 0; } else { h--; if(h == -1) h = 23; } Better still: h=(ee-z0)?((h++ == 24)?0:h):((h-- == -1)?23:h); Oh, i just forget you're in the other semisphere ;))) Some of us don't even know if we are of this planet. /me smacks myself upside the head. -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] 'state of the E-nion'
Cristalle Azundris Sabon said: Alan Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see that you do not include evidence in your list. I thought it was very much part of the vision for e17. evidence is the odd one out inasmuch it already works -- Expect entrance to also drop off the list soon. : ) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by:Crypto Challenge is now open! Get cracking and register here for some mind boggling fun and the chance of winning an Apple iPod: http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0031en ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by:Crypto Challenge is now open! Get cracking and register here for some mind boggling fun and the chance of winning an Apple iPod: http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0031en ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Background displays Weather
On Mon 17 Mar 2003, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On 17 Mar 2003 10:27:18 +0100 Cristalle Azundris Sabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my eventual plans are to have the desktop background managed by a separate process to e - evidence would be one, or any other you want to put there that works with e. I think that was just about everybody's plan, really, with the sole reason for it not having been implemented yet being that we've never sat down and defined the IPC between the background-handler and its clients? well i looked at it more as being just a shared canvas and the file manager is just yet another client using the shared desktop canvas... :) how to share i'm still tossing around. you may have noticed ecore gaining ipc and tcp/ip wrappers of late... :) i'm not putting anything in stone right now, but i'm building a comprehensive set of tools/code that can/will be used... it's just the details of how exactly.. but the way i have it planned it isnt that relevant as we can just expand the protocol as things move on with more calls etc. as long as the basic design is right.. and i'm pretty sure i have that idea well thought out. though this will be on hold till i do some ebits work first :) This is actually one of the planned features for Entrance as well - a shared canvas based on IPC or some similar mechanism that will allow plugins to operate. This would probably be made easier if there was some sort of canvas server library (with the appropriate protection features). This is put off for the not-so-near future though, and the priority at the moment is actually to migrate to the new ecore as soon as it is finished (meaning others have started to migrate to it!) :p -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by:Crypto Challenge is now open! Get cracking and register here for some mind boggling fun and the chance of winning an Apple iPod: http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0031en ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] While we await E17...
On Mon 17 Mar 2003, BAM wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 01:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 12:56:23 +0100, Kim Woelders [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: My primary focus has been on making things work (for me) on RH-8.0 with a Gnome desktop. I have tried not to break backward compatibility (although it probably would be cleaner an more efficient just to take out the old Gnome/KDE stuff). Things also seem to work fairly OK on a RH-8.0 KDE desktop. I have not tested with Gnome2.0 or KDE3.0. While we're on the topic, has anybody whomped on the e_gen_gnome_menu script to deal with the Gnome 2.0+ 'desktop' files? (Probably the KDE ones need whomping too, but I don't have any KDE-ish apps, and I *do* use some of the Gnome apps under E)... I believed I hacked them once specifically to work for a mandrake 9.0 system ... it wasn't very general work since Mandrake has its own peculiar menu system for KDE in /usr/share/applnk-mdk or so. But it might be useful, so I might try to find the lab machine I did that on and dig out that script. -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by:Crypto Challenge is now open! Get cracking and register here for some mind boggling fun and the chance of winning an Apple iPod: http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0031en ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Background displays Weather
On Thu 13 Mar 2003, Carsten Haitzler wrote: I'm not having html on e's desktop. it's a limited formatting language, slow to parse turn into usable data for a process to display. and bugger if i'm going to write a web browser to make people happy do this. if someone else wants to go write a web browser/html display widget for this.. more power to them, BUT i have no plans on supporting this. i have much better plans in place am working (slowly) towards making them a reality. my eventual plans are to have the desktop background managed by a separate process to e - evidence would be one, or any other you want to put there that works with e. i'm working (slowly) to build the infrastructure to eventually have shared canvases and that means any number of processes can run and display in the desktop canvas sharing it nicely with alpha blending, layering etc. i repeat. there's enough work as is, without writing a web browser. and no we're not going to go use moilla/geko and suddenly make that part of a wm. :) Two words: Hell No. I could almost barf at the though of having a flash animation on my desktop, not to mention JavaScript. Going back to the original topic of this thread, right now I'm actually leaning towards the use of enaa code to do dynamic backgrounds (actually in general, special effects/dynamic animation and interaction). Enaa seems to be perfect for that purpose. I still wouldn't use it to create themes per se because I feel the barrier to creating themes would be too high, but I like the idea of creating special fx eets that can be applied to any object or group of objects in an evas application. -- --- Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile Phone: +61 (0)413 451 899Home Phone: 02 9698 8615 -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by:Crypto Challenge is now open! Get cracking and register here for some mind boggling fun and the chance of winning an Apple iPod: http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0031en ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Evas - configure error
The Rasterman said: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:16:32 -0800 Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I realize this may be really low priority, but I though I'd report an error the latest evas checked out from CVS. Seems the configure script has a syntax error: checking whether directfb backend is to be built... ./configure: line 9062: syntax error near unexpected token `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(DIRECTFB,' ./configure: line 9062: ` PKG_CHECK_MODULES(DIRECTFB, directfb = 0.9.16)' you're missing directfb on your system. this wouldn't matter if u got the tarball, but running autogen.sh requires u have directfb and directfb-dev installed (and pkgconfig) That error is a direct result of not having pkgconfig, whether or not directfb is installed or not. -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by:Crypto Challenge is now open! Get cracking and register here for some mind boggling fun and the chance of winning an Apple iPod: http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0031en ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Re: E CVS: apps/entrance jeoparde
Mike Frysinger said: On Saturday 01 March 2003 18:45, Corey Donohoe wrote: Does everything have the system-auth? I was under the impression it was a redhat/authconfig thing. If you have clients using entrance off of ldap and nis perhaps you'd need to be savy to set it up? If it is just a redhat thing could we posisbly go back to the old file? Gentoo is setup this way -mike I have tested Entrance on Mandrake, Debian and Gentoo so far. All three distributions do use system-auth as far as I remember. In fact, I think any modern Linux distribution that uses PAM should, which leaves the notorious exception of Slackware which does not use PAM by default. I know there is PAM support in Solaris, but I dunno if the pam_stack system-auth thing is enabled by default (Ben, care to chip in here?) As for the Slackware users, don't worry, I won't leave you out in the cold for too long. I'll try (no promises!) to work in one or two alternative authentication methods over the week. But for now, if you want Entrance, you have to have PAM. Of course, if anyone would like to volunteer to send in patches for this, they would be most welcome. -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \ --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Background displays Weather
If I recall correctly, there are already a couple of programs out there that can display a continuously changing wallpaper reflecting the daytime (sun moon etc) out there making use of a simple timer script and xsetroot. And KDE even has similar functionality built in already. Of course xsetroot won't really work for E17, so it's still a good idea. I'm thinking more of a generally programmable/customizable background manager that can do much more than just rotate between a bunch of static pictures, but actually do some animation, dynamic content etc. (this sounds like some feature expansion for ebg). --Ibukun Bartley J.Kleypas said: You read my MIND! On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 04:04:00 -0500 Robert Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, Yea and drop shadows on the windows that reflect where the current postion of the sun or moon are.. based on the locale of the computer. - Original Message - From: Arlo White [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: [E-devel] Background displays Weather I just had an idea that seemed kinda cool. What if your background represented the weather/moonphase/etc. You could have some sort of outdoor scenery and then on top place clouds and show animated rain to represent the weather in your area. You could also have the moon/sun positioned to represent their positions in the sky and show the moonphase. You might even show the weather forecast by animating a change in weather. If someone was really creative you might show the actual constellations and planets that are visible that day. Is this possible within the current Enlightenment vision? -Arlo -- Arlo White [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Scholarships for Techies! Can't afford IT training? All 2003 ictp students receive scholarships. Get hands-on training in Microsoft, Cisco, Sun, Linux/UNIX, and more. www.ictp.com/training/sourceforge.asp ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- | /*\ Ibukun Olumuyiwa | \ / Join the ASCII Ribbon Campaign http://xcomputerman.com| X against HTML mail today! | / \ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Scholarships for Techies! Can't afford IT training? All 2003 ictp students receive scholarships. Get hands-on training in Microsoft, Cisco, Sun, Linux/UNIX, and more. www.ictp.com/training/sourceforge.asp ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel