Re: [e-users] Warp?
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:46:41 +0100 Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, I may be stupid but I need some explanation about the Warp setting in Winlist! I'm trying to translate it to Swedish but I don't know what it does! man XWarpPointer (ie same terminology userd there - it moves the mouse pointer to a specific location without the user moving the mouse itself) Thanks! \\troback -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
RE: [e-users] Thinktux.net CVS Mirror
I agreed with Curtis saying that stability is more important than up to date CVS builds. Please Curtis tell us when the news ebuilds will be ok Thanks De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Andrew Spott Envoyé: mercredi 25 janvier 2006 05:37 À: Curtis Napier Cc: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Objet: Re: [e-users] Thinktux.net CVS Mirror Thanks for changing the ebuilds. They are my primary form on building E17, and I don't know enough about how to change them to be able to use the tarballs. -Andrew On 1/24/06, Curtis Napier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geoffrey wrote: Quick note, your post went to me alone, not the list... :) Curtis Napier wrote: If the tarball at freedesktop is known good I would much rather use that than taking my chances with CVS.I also use E17 as my primary WM on 3 machines so stability is more important to me than 2 weeks of CVS bleeding-edge goodness. :-) Thanks Raster, I'll start using the tarball from now on. I'll also look into changing the Gentoo ebuilds so we can get the tarball used by default instead of CVS. /me goes off to find vapier on IRC. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Warp?
H...I think you are talking about 'Warp mouse to window while selecting, are you not? I meant the Warp At End and Warp Speed under the Warp Settings section! \\troback On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:26:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:46:41 +0100 Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, I may be stupid but I need some explanation about the Warp setting in Winlist! I'm trying to translate it to Swedish but I don't know what it does! man XWarpPointer (ie same terminology userd there - it moves the mouse pointer to a specific location without the user moving the mouse itself) Thanks! \\troback -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:51:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler wrote: 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen? So what do you guys think? Yes, i am willing to donate. -- Kind Regards Antonio --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Warp?
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:57:43 +0100 Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: H...I think you are talking about 'Warp mouse to window while selecting, are you not? I meant the Warp At End and Warp Speed under the Warp Settings section! same thing - move the pointer to the window you sel3ected only at the very END of doing the selection and dont move it while selecting. and warp speed is the speed at whihc it warps - how fast the mouse moves. :) \\troback On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:26:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:46:41 +0100 Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, I may be stupid but I need some explanation about the Warp setting in Winlist! I'm trying to translate it to Swedish but I don't know what it does! man XWarpPointer (ie same terminology userd there - it moves the mouse pointer to a specific location without the user moving the mouse itself) Thanks! \\troback -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Warp?
Sorry for being a pain in the ass but... I know understand the Warp Speed but I can not see what the Warp At End are doing! Can you please explain, in a way that a five year old can understand:-) On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:02:30 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:57:43 +0100 Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: H...I think you are talking about 'Warp mouse to window while selecting, are you not? I meant the Warp At End and Warp Speed under the Warp Settings section! same thing - move the pointer to the window you sel3ected only at the very END of doing the selection and dont move it while selecting. and warp speed is the speed at whihc it warps - how fast the mouse moves. :) \\troback On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:26:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:46:41 +0100 Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, I may be stupid but I need some explanation about the Warp setting in Winlist! I'm trying to translate it to Swedish but I don't know what it does! man XWarpPointer (ie same terminology userd there - it moves the mouse pointer to a specific location without the user moving the mouse itself) Thanks! \\troback -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:51:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is where you come in (users etc.). If you want better access to things like nightly source tarballs builds, fast speedy CVS access, maybe binary tarballs builds, etc. etc. - our own machine will allow Automated system of nightly tarballs, second level of stable, manual created at proper times tarballs (the current tarball system), auto build the binaries from the stable tarballs. Official install script that default to stable/binary tarball installs, but can be configured for unstable tarball and cvs installs. Even then, the cvs install starts with an unstable tarball and cvs updates from that. Anon cvs and tarball mirrors to use a rock solid, minimal bandwidth sync method. Should devs continue to use sf.net cvs, or do we want to move development to the new server once all the teething problems are sorted out and it's rock solid? sf.net dev cvs is a lot less problematic than anon, coz if it sucks too much devs won't use it, and if devs don't use it, then sourceforge won't have any source to forge. pgpWi2L8g3rYF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:31:06 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:51:37 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is where you come in (users etc.). If you want better access to things like nightly source tarballs builds, fast speedy CVS access, maybe binary tarballs builds, etc. etc. - our own machine will allow Automated system of nightly tarballs, second level of stable, manual created at proper times tarballs (the current tarball system), auto build the binaries from the stable tarballs. Official install script that default to stable/binary tarball installs, but can be configured for unstable tarball and cvs installs. Even then, the cvs install starts with an unstable tarball and cvs updates from that. Anon cvs and tarball mirrors to use a rock solid, minimal bandwidth sync method. Should devs continue to use sf.net cvs, or do we want to move development to the new server once all the teething problems are sorted out and it's rock solid? sf.net dev cvs is a lot less problematic than anon, coz if it sucks too much devs won't use it, and if devs don't use it, then sourceforge won't have any source to forge. dev cvs works just fine - it's not having any issues. it's ONLY anon cvs. i am considering this for the good of the non-developers. use devs are well catered for and happy :) not to mention e is sf.net project #2 - with sf.net being project #1 - so we are the first project on sf.net really - other than sf.net itself. thats something to keep maintain and use. we just shoudl move other services off sf.net where it doesnt provide good service. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Warp?
OK, now I get it, thanks daddy:-D On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:35:46 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:11:57 +0100 Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Sorry for being a pain in the ass but... I know understand the Warp Speed but I can not see what the Warp At End are doing! Can you please explain, in a way that a five year old can understand:-) ok - hi hit alt+tab. the winlist box comes up. u KEEP alt held down. now u keep hitting tab. as u hit tab the selection advances and a new title is hilighted. if you have warp enabled the mouse will also jump to the window smoothly. when you are finished selecting (are happy with the selection) u lift the alt key. this is the end of selecting. if you didnt have warp enabled before you now have another choice - warp at the end ONLY (so not to annoy you while selecting). the mouse will jump NOW to the window. this is REQUIRED with pointer and sloppy focus modes due to how they work. On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:02:30 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:57:43 +0100 Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: H...I think you are talking about 'Warp mouse to window while selecting, are you not? I meant the Warp At End and Warp Speed under the Warp Settings section! same thing - move the pointer to the window you sel3ected only at the very END of doing the selection and dont move it while selecting. and warp speed is the speed at whihc it warps - how fast the mouse moves. :) \\troback On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:26:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:46:41 +0100 Anders Troback [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hi, I may be stupid but I need some explanation about the Warp setting in Winlist! I'm trying to translate it to Swedish but I don't know what it does! man XWarpPointer (ie same terminology userd there - it moves the mouse pointer to a specific location without the user moving the mouse itself) Thanks! \\troback -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. And 'No' is the answer! Anders Trobäck http://www.troback.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk
Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:44:15 +1000 David Seikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:37:51 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: devs are well catered for and happy :) not to mention e is sf.net project #2 - with sf.net being project #1 - so we are the first project on sf.net really - other than sf.net itself. thats something to keep maintain and use. Do we get to throw that weight around? B-) we need to eat more. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Re: [E-devel] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
Well, the get-e.org money from google adds could be channeled this way, this is about £10 /month at the moment I think, though it keeps going up... Andy On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 03:51:37PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: OK people It seems CVS issues have been getting worse of late - SF.NET is being more overloaded than ever, and thinktux needs to go down soon enough. We need to solve this. Now This isn't edict, or guaranteed to happen, but it's an IDEA open for discussion. Apparently thinktux pulls some serious load and bandwidth - and that is not all of the anonymous CVS access we have. Apparently Thinktux's machine is farily overloaded CPU-wise and is pulling a good 25GB of CVS data traffic per day. I imagine this will only increase over time and if all anonymous CVS access is moved here - then it will get even worse. So after some discussions we have a tentative offer of free hosting and bandwidth from the guys at: http://osuosl.org/ - all we need is a server box. We can run what we want on this - including enlightenment.org's website, and we could host other pages if we want to too (get-e.org, edevelop.org etc.) if people desire, but the main issue here is easier ability to provide downloads of tarballs (currently enlightenment.freedesktop.org servers as this dumping ground due to sf.net limiting www space and use). and CVS - anonymous CVS. The problems are twofold - bandwidth and load here. Here is where you come in (users etc.). If you want better access to things like nightly source tarballs builds, fast speedy CVS access, maybe binary tarballs builds, etc. etc. - our own machine will allow us to do this without limits. All we need to do is pony up enough cash to buy a machine to put in a rack. Again - this is just an idea right now, but it's a relatively attractive one. This allows us to monitor CVS stats better - find out just how many people use CVS - how often, where they come from (USA, Eruope, Outer Mongolia) etc. It gives use the opportunity to provide a better service and gain more information. Now if enough users are willing to donate something - like $20 or $50 here and there we can afford such a machine and thus bring CVS access and source access up to top level standards. This mail is meant to do 3 things. 1. Consider if this is a sane option at all (IMHO with a little work it is and opens up lots of future possibilities). 2. If so - what box do we really need? I am thinking something like: dual opteron/xeon or amd64 (like 2 phsical cpu's) and maybe get 2x dual core cpu's - but don't get the expensive ones - midrange (to handle the cvs load) eg amd64 3800's (2ghz dual core amd64 - 2 of these cpu's (so 4 cores total)), 1GB ram minimum - likely 2-4 GB maybe for lots of disk cache, a 2u box/case and a raid drive setup (disks go bad - setup at least raid mirroring with striped reads doubling our read rates, and a failure is no big deal other than needing to send out a replacement), with removable drive bays because drives go bad - make life easy on the hosters. If a drive goes bad - limp along without backup for a week or 2, get new drive, insert fixed. Otherwise the rest is pretty standard (100mbit or gigabit ethernet - irrelevant which really) etc. etc. this can of course all be discussed as to what people think is a good value for money box that meets our needs. 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen? So what do you guys think? -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- To iterate is human, to recurse divine. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
RE: [e-users] GXine icon?
I'm sorry, Johan... I had a brainfart, and named the wrong X utility to use. The correct answer is here at http://www.mail-archive.com/enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/ms g05904.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johan Verrept Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:51 PM To: Enlightenment Users List Subject: Re: [e-users] GXine icon? You mean the string following the window id? xwininfo: Window id: 0x800027 gxine 0.4.5 Absolute upper-left X: 850 Absolute upper-left Y: 138 Relative upper-left X: 0 Relative upper-left Y: 0 Width: 399 Height: 272 Depth: 24 Visual Class: TrueColor Border width: 0 Class: InputOutput Colormap: 0x20 (installed) Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity Backing Store State: NotUseful Save Under State: no Map State: IsViewable Override Redirect State: no Corners: +850+138 -351+138 -351-790 +850-790 -geometry 399x272+846+114 I tried variations of gxine, gxine 0.4.5, with no effect. I can understand that this would affect the the window of the running app, but why would the icon not appear in my favorite menu? J. Gorman, Mitch wrote: Chances are, the app doesn't have the window class that you assigned inside the eap. Run xwininfo, click on the running gxine app, and compare what xwininfo tells you to what you've got in the eap file. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johan Verrept Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:24 PM To: Enlightenment Users List Subject: [e-users] GXine icon? hi, I just installed gxine and created an eap for it. That seemed to go just fine, the icon shows up in the eap editor and the eap works. It just doesn't show the icon in the top left of the window nor does it show up in my favorite menu... I checked the manual and compared the entry to a few others, but I fail to see whats wrong. J. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=12164 2 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.22/238 - Release Date: 1/23/2006 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Re: [E-devel] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On 1/25/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen? Count me. -- Beber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [e-users] GXine icon?
I'm sorry, Johan... I had a brainfart, and named the wrong X utility to use. The correct answer is here at http://www.mail-archive.com/enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg05904.html Thank you, I should have found that myself. The output is: WM_CLASS(STRING) = gxine, Gxine Which doesn't work. Is it possible that it is related to the icon itself? Maybe a wrong format or something? It's a png though. Thank you for your effort, J. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
David Seikel wrote: Should devs continue to use sf.net cvs, or do we want to move development to the new server once all the teething problems are sorted out and it's rock solid? sf.net dev cvs is a lot less problematic than anon, coz if it sucks too much devs won't use it, and if devs don't use it, then sourceforge won't have any source to forge. I think spreading the load between a new server and sf.net would be a good thing. Permit only devs to get to sf.net, if folks think that would be sufficient. Everyone else goes to the new server. Unless sf.net would be slower then the new server for devs. The devs should have priority access. -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Warp?
Anders Troback wrote: OK, now I get it, thanks daddy:-D Wow, I never would have imagined.. -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: Now if enough users are willing to donate something - like $20 or $50 here and there we can afford such a machine and thus bring CVS access and source access up to top level standards. I'm in, where do I send the ? This mail is meant to do 3 things. 1. Consider if this is a sane option at all (IMHO with a little work it is and opens up lots of future possibilities). I like it. 2. If so - what box do we really need? I'm not a good one to assist with this, I've not dealt with anything that provides such services. :( 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen? I hope so. So what do you guys think? Let's do it. How will the $$$ be handled? Who will purchase the hardware, where will it physically be located (that is, where is -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] moon module 0.1.0
Dear moon module users - (all 3 of you ? (^_^)) I have put out a new version of the moon module that is (finally) updated with configuration and everything that other modules have (had for ages). Configuration options are - Border on/off (intended for use with black backgrounds) - Clouds on/off (blatant rip-off from e17's about theme) - Moon phase value display on/off/on with mouse over - Allow overlap on/off This has had pretty thorough testing here, make distcheck passes as well, but do let me know if you strike problems. Get your tarball here: http://www.geocities.jp/david_at_tokyo/e17/moon/ Dear translators - If you like this module and feel the urge, there is a moon.pot file under the po/ directory available for translation - basically for the configuration dialog strings. Let me know if you'd like to add your language. There is a ja.po already, just for testing. Regards! David
Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On 1/25/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This mail is meant to do 3 things.1. Consider if this is a sane option at all (IMHO with a little work it is and opens up lots of future possibilities). I've not had that much trouble with sf anon access (sure, have to try a few times, but eventually I get there - I may be in a quiet timezone), but in the interests of the e community... 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen? ...I just got my 2005 bonus, so I'm prepared to chip in my bit too :) David
Re: [e-users] Thinktux.net CVS Mirror
Andrew Spott wrote: Thanks for changing the ebuilds. They are my primary form on building E17, and I don't know enough about how to change them to be able to use the tarballs. -Andrew On 1/24/06, *Curtis Napier* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geoffrey wrote: Quick note, your post went to me alone, not the list... :) Curtis Napier wrote: If the tarball at freedesktop is known good I would much rather use that than taking my chances with CVS.I also use E17 as my primary WM on 3 machines so stability is more important to me than 2 weeks of CVS bleeding-edge goodness. :-) Thanks Raster, I'll start using the tarball from now on. I'll also look into changing the Gentoo ebuilds so we can get the tarball used by default instead of CVS. /me goes off to find vapier on IRC. According to vapier the ebuilds for E17 that use the tarballs at freedesktop already exist. You simply have to use ~ARCH instead of -* in your keywords and the e- ebuild will automatically use the tarballs instead of CVS. Also, the tarball versions are not always up-to-date with freedesktop. If you are getting an older version just wait a day or two and vapier will version bump. Apparently vapier has already submitted this info to the get-e.org site and is included in the user guide under distro specific info. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen? Yes, people are willing to donate. Set up a paypal account or something and give us the details. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] evidence debian package
hi, the evidence debian package (unstable/evidence_0.9.8-0cvs20060102_i386.deb) seems to have missing a dependency to the package 'libdoodle1'. installing this package manually, evidence works fine. best regards, holger dell. On 1/20/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:00:54 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: snip xdaliclock!!! no wonder! e has to recalculate the dropshadow shapes all the time - i mean i spent a lot of time optimsing that heavily, but... doing realtime gaussian blurrs takes a bit of grunt. Yeah, but it's reall pretty! It does a very good job of it. It's very smooth. well it's not bad. in the future i hope to work on improving things so thngs liek dropshadows are more efficient with memory etc. right now they are most efficient if u have only square windows :) With or without it (xdaliclock), I don't see much impact though. well thats mostly the kernel - e will use cpu when it needs it - as much as it can get - then go back to idling waiting for something it needs to do. your kernel will handle 5giving up the cpu to e and takign it away as needed. e doesnt run threads or fork 1000's of processes so its only 1 slot in your kernel's process table and thus should have minimal impact in general - even if eating 100% cpu. It's sweet. I would have suspected that I would have seen some degradation because of the xdaliclock app, but if you think about, it's still got 80% of the cpu to play with. :) that's true :) -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [E-devel] Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
For those looking to donate, there is a small button on the left side of the menus on enlightenment.org below the navigation menu. This actually takes you to the SF donation page. As we are talking about donations to move away from SF, I would argue that we shouldn't pay their transaction fee in this case, but that is up to your discretion. If you would like to donate directly and bypass the fee you can submit a donation via Paypal to my email address. This is where the donations end up at the present time anyways. We currently have some funds from previous donations, but considering the level of hardware we're discussing, I'd estimate that we only have 1/5 to 1/3 of what we need (at best).While I don't want to discourage donations, we could definitely use those, we do have some list members with considerable resources. If someone has access to systems that would meet the needs raster outlined in his email, and is willing to donate/discount them for E hosting, please let us know. A dedicated server would be very nice to have, but we also take on the administrative headache with the benefits and responsibility for hardware upgrades/maintenance. On 1/25/06, David Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/25/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This mail is meant to do 3 things.1. Consider if this is a sane option at all (IMHO with a little work it is and opens up lots of future possibilities). I've not had that much trouble with sf anon access (sure, have to try a few times, but eventually I get there - I may be in a quiet timezone), but in the interests of the e community... 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen? ...I just got my 2005 bonus, so I'm prepared to chip in my bit too :) David
[e-users] Re: [E-devel] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On 1/25/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen? Suire thing raster =) i think i can donate $50 , let us know how where and when. -- Callea Gaetano Andrea[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-users] Re: [E-devel] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 15:51 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: OK people 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen? So what do you guys think? Good, fun idea. Count me in. -Stafford --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Re: [E-devel] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On 1/25/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen? sounds good to me. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Re: [E-devel] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
enlightenment.org web site is very slow from UK, somehow it needs some upgrade I believe. I agree, we can put some $ to get rid of these problems. Is the donation via SF.NET? Andreas On 1/25/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK peopleIt seems CVS issues have been getting worse of late - SF.NET is being moreoverloaded than ever, and thinktux needs to go down soon enough. We need tosolve this. Now This isn't edict, or guaranteed to happen, but it's an IDEA open for discussion.Apparently thinktux pulls some serious load and bandwidth - and that is not allof the anonymous CVS access we have. Apparently Thinktux's machine is farilyoverloaded CPU-wise and is pulling a good 25GB of CVS data traffic per day. I imagine this will only increase over time and if all anonymous CVS access ismoved here - then it will get even worse.So after some discussions we have a tentative offer of free hosting andbandwidth from the guys at: http://osuosl.org/ - all we need is a server box.We can run what we want on this - including enlightenment.org's website, and wecould host other pages if we want to too ( get-e.org, edevelop.org etc.) ifpeople desire, but the main issue here is easier ability to provide downloadsof tarballs (currently enlightenment.freedesktop.org servers as this dumpingground due to sf.net limiting www space and use). and CVS - anonymous CVS. Theproblems are twofold - bandwidth and load here. Here is where you come in (users etc.). If you want better access to thingslike nightly source tarballs builds, fast speedy CVS access, maybe binarytarballs builds, etc. etc. - our own machine will allow us to do this without limits. All we need to do is pony up enough cash to buy a machine to put in arack. Again - this is just an idea right now, but it's a relatively attractiveone. This allows us to monitor CVS stats better - find out just how many people use CVS - how often, where they come from (USA, Eruope, Outer Mongolia) etc. Itgives use the opportunity to provide a better service and gain more information.Now if enough users are willing to donate something - like $20 or $50 here and there we can afford such a machine and thus bring CVS access and source accessup to top level standards.This mail is meant to do 3 things.1. Consider if this is a sane option at all (IMHO with a little work it is and opens up lots of future possibilities).2. If so - what box do we really need? I am thinking something like:dual opteron/xeon or amd64 (like 2 phsical cpu's) and maybe get 2x dual corecpu's - but don't get the expensive ones - midrange (to handle the cvs load) eg amd64 3800's (2ghz dual core amd64 - 2 of these cpu's (so 4 cores total)), 1GBram minimum - likely 2-4 GB maybe for lots of disk cache, a 2u box/case and araid drive setup (disks go bad - setup at least raid mirroring with striped reads doubling our read rates, and a failure is no big deal other than needingto send out a replacement), with removable drive bays because drives go bad -make life easy on the hosters. If a drive goes bad - limp along without backup for a week or 2, get new drive, insert fixed. Otherwise the rest is prettystandard (100mbit or gigabit ethernet - irrelevant which really) etc. etc. thiscan of course all be discussed as to what people think is a good value for money box that meets our needs.3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen?So what do you guys think?--- Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED]裸好多Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本)---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems?Stop!Download the new AJAX search engine that makessearching your log files as easy as surfing theweb.DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642___enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Re: [e-users] e16.8 pre1
Kim Woelders a écrit : Michel Briand wrote: It's amasing! E16 works for years, and even if I switched to Entranced one year ago, I still use E16 because it's a STABLE environment I can rely on. I use E16 on 4 computers, 2 at home and 2 at work, and I use the same customizations for more than 6 years: - all important features are keybinded (switch, maximize, shade, iconify, ...) - all my favorite programs are binded too (scrot, feh, rox, ... + a number of scripts of mine for start/pause/stop CD or XMMS) - my file menu and sub-menus are filled with all my fav applications too All that stuff I repeat DONT HAVE CHANGED FOR YEAR. Users that want to USE their computer to do some duty work, or even users that want to USE their computer to hack for other projects, need a STABLE environment. *** SO I WONDER WHY YOU HAVE CHANGED THE CONFIG FILE STRUCTURE AND SYNTAX RECENTLY I did kind of expect this reaction at some point :) e16.8 has been underway more than a year now, and the configuration file changes were one of the first things that happened, so the changes are only recent in the sense that e16.8 pre1 was released recently. *** IT'S A BIG, AN AMASING MISTAKE THAT CRIPLE THE RESPECT YOU OUGHT FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE The configuration file changes are undoubtedly annoying in a highly customized setup when you expect things to work entirely without changes for decades. However, I still think the changes are an improvement, and there has been a lot of until now exclusively positive feedback from users about this. Please pardon me, but many Open Source projects are suffering the same. It's not your fault. You intended to improve E and I thank you for that. But why change things that are working for years ? But it *is* my fault since I made the changes. There is no reason to blame Open Source in general :) Why did I change things? - To make the configuration simpler and more flexible. Compare ~/.enlightenment/...e_session-XX and ~/.e16/e_config--0.0.cfg. Compare /usr/share/enlightenment/config/keybindings.cfg and /usr/share/e16/config/bindings.cfg I think the new ones are quite a bit easier to comprehend, and the processing of these files is no longer obscured by the use of cpp. This may be of no concern to users who don't dig into these files, but quite a few e16 users actually do, as not every single configuration item is exposed via configuration dialogs. - To simplify code maintenance and implementation of new options/features. Previously it would require adding at least 20 lines of code to add a new configuration option, not including code to set/get the option via eesh. Now it takes two lines, and nothing in particular to expose it to eesh. Previously adding some action, like e.g. shade/unshade, would require separate code for borders/keybindings and for eesh commands. These have now been merged so that only one implementation is required. Users who just want e16 to work as it always has probably couldn't care less about these things. Ok, fine, stick with e16.7. As developer I found it increasingly annoying that it was non-trivial and tedious to add options/features. And I don't like to get annoyed ... :) /Kim I appreciate your answers, and since I'm also a happy hack I can understand your motivations ;). I would like to take this discussion a bit higher and it can help E17 management in the future... E (mainly e16 ATW but e17 in a while) is a WM and as such must be manager like a critical application. This means : - it's evident but it's better said than not : This Program Is Designed With Users In Mind, it's not your little toy, even if Raster as it's creator, you and all contributors own the intellectual property, Open Sourcing it makes the software the property of Users ;). That's what I mean when I said many Open Source projects are suffering... That's the Great Concept, IMHO, of Richard Stallman. You give the software and no one can say I own it. The main focus becomes : how to do things that benefits to the users. - software releases should be made clear and as much as possible, straightforward for users to download, build and install. But not the least: to migrate without burden. This means, I think, a smart way to migrate from e16.7 to e16.8+ config files... - configuration management should identify that there is a change in config file syntax and/or structure. I.e. CVS should help us to signal these changes and package management systems should map this. I can greatly help you and all the Ecommunity. I've strong experience in SCM at work. Mainly in industry class managed projects... Yes, we agree that E is a critical application, that's a way for us to better distinguish it from non-critical application. For example applications that don't creates user annoyance when they don't work or applications that can easyly be updated without notice to user. A last example, and maybe you would
Re: [e-users] pager is showing iconified windows
Mine does it too, it's really annoying, it has been doing that for a while now, I'd even say for months... Gabriel Jason Edson wrote: My pager shows thesame thing. If I have a window then minimize it the pager still shows it. It's been that way for me since the module configuration dialog showed up. I've been rebuilding everyday from thinktux.net for about a week. I'm going to rebuild right now and I will report agian if it's fixed. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk=103432=230486=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] ECore compilation problems...
Hello, ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _server_disown' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _server_add' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ECORE_CON _EVENT_SERVER_DEL' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _server_send' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _init' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _shutdown' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _client_send' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _client_data_get'src/lib/ecore_con/.libs/libecore_con.so ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_i pc.so -L/var/tmp/portage/ecore-/work/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_con/.libs /var/tmp/portage/ecore-/work/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore_con/.libs/libecore _con.so /var/tmp/portage/ecore-/work/e17/libs/ecore/src/lib/ecore/.libs/libe core.so -lssl -lcrypto -ldl -lm -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/lib/opengl/ati/lib ecore_test-ecore_test.o: In function `main': ecore_test.c:(.text+0x12af): undefined reference to `ecore_ipc_init' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x12d0): undefined reference to `ecore_ipc_server_add' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x12e6): undefined reference to `ECORE_IPC_EVENT_CLIENT_ADD' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1302): undefined reference to `ECORE_IPC_EVENT_CLIENT_DEL' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1319): undefined reference to `ECORE_IPC_EVENT_CLIENT_DATA ' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1352): undefined reference to `ecore_ipc_server_connect' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1368): undefined reference to `ECORE_IPC_EVENT_SERVER_ADD' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1384): undefined reference to `ECORE_IPC_EVENT_SERVER_DEL' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x13a0): undefined reference to `ECORE_IPC_EVENT_SERVER_DATA ' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1417): undefined reference to `ecore_ipc_server_send' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x145b): undefined reference to `ecore_ipc_shutdown' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1461): undefined reference to `ecore_con_shutdown' ecore_test-ecore_test.o: In function `handler_server_data': ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1523): undefined reference to `ecore_con_server_send' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1549): undefined reference to `ecore_con_server_del' ecore_test-ecore_test.o: In function `handler_server_del': ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1579): undefined reference to `ecore_con_server_del' ecore_test-ecore_test.o: In function `handler_client_data': ecore_test.c:(.text+0x15c3): undefined reference to `ecore_con_client_send' ecore_test-ecore_test.o: In function `handler_ipc_server_data': ecore_test.c:(.text+0x164c): undefined reference to `ecore_ipc_server_send' ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1672): undefined reference to `ecore_ipc_server_del' ecore_test-ecore_test.o: In function `handler_ipc_server_del': ecore_test.c:(.text+0x1699): undefined reference to `ecore_ipc_server_del' ecore_test-ecore_test.o: In function `handler_ipc_client_data': ecore_test.c:(.text+0x171c): undefined reference to `ecore_ipc_client_send' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _server_disown' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _server_add' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ECORE_CON _EVENT_SERVER_DEL' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _init' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _client_data_get' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _server_data_get' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _client_server_get' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _client_del' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _server_client_limit_set' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ECORE_CON _EVENT_SERVER_DATA' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ECORE_CON _EVENT_CLIENT_DEL' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ECORE_CON _EVENT_CLIENT_DATA' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _server_connected_get' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ECORE_CON _EVENT_CLIENT_ADD' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _ssl_available_get' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ECORE_CON _EVENT_SERVER_ADD' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to `ecore_con _client_data_set' ../../src/lib/ecore_ipc/.libs/libecore_ipc.so: undefined reference to
[e-users] Problems building e17 from CVS
Hi Im having problems building e17 from cvs and hope someone could help me out to get it running when I make the e itself, i get the current error from Makefile on e/data/init/ /usr/local/bin/edje_cc: Wrote 36494 bytes ( 36Kb) for fonts/Edje Vera Bold font entry VeraBd.ttf compress: [real: 37.8%] /usr/local/bin/edje_cc: Error. unable to load image for image brushed.png part entry to ../../data/init/init.edj looks like edje can find or read the files in e/data/init/images folder and compress it on init.edj thanks for any help Marcelo --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [E-devel] Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
Nathan Ingersoll wrote: For those looking to donate, there is a small button on the left side of the menus on enlightenment.org below the navigation menu. This actually takes you to the SF donation page. As we are talking about donations to move away from SF, I would argue that we shouldn't pay their transaction fee in this case, but that is up to your discretion. If you would like to donate directly and bypass the fee you can submit a donation via Paypal to my email address. This is where the donations end up at the present time anyways. We currently have some funds from previous donations, but considering the level of hardware we're discussing, I'd estimate that we only have 1/5 to 1/3 of what we need (at best). Can anyone put a $ amount on what will be needed? While I don't want to discourage donations, we could definitely use those, we do have some list members with considerable resources. If someone has access to systems that would meet the needs raster outlined in his email, and is willing to donate/discount them for E hosting, please let us know. A dedicated server would be very nice to have, but we also take on the administrative headache with the benefits and responsibility for hardware upgrades/maintenance. -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [E-devel] Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:59:54 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nathan Ingersoll wrote: We currently have some funds from previous donations, but considering the level of hardware we're discussing, I'd estimate that we only have 1/5 to 1/3 of what we need (at best). Can anyone put a $ amount on what will be needed? Not until we have a better idea of what hardware will be needed and get a chance to look up prices. Until then, only vague estimates can be made. pgpL2hVw7tpeM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [E-devel] Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
Nathan Ingersoll wrote: For those looking to donate, there is a small button on the left side of the menus on enlightenment.org below the navigation menu. This actually takes you to the SF donation page. As we are talking about donations to move away from SF, I would argue that we shouldn't pay their transaction fee in this case, but that is up to your discretion. If you would like to donate directly and bypass the fee you can submit a donation via Paypal to my email address. This is where the donations end up at the present time anyways. Assuming that would be [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??? -- Until later, Geoffrey --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Thinktux.net CVS Mirror
Hi, That doesn't work for me, if I replace -* by ~x86 (since I have an x86) emerge complains : Calculating dependencies \ !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy e have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - x11-wm/e- (masked by: -* keyword) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. is there something else that has to be done? Thanks, Gabriel Curtis Napier wrote: Andrew Spott wrote: Thanks for changing the ebuilds. They are my primary form on building E17, and I don't know enough about how to change them to be able to use the tarballs. -Andrew On 1/24/06, *Curtis Napier* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geoffrey wrote: Quick note, your post went to me alone, not the list... :) Curtis Napier wrote: If the tarball at freedesktop is known good I would much rather use that than taking my chances with CVS.I also use E17 as my primary WM on 3 machines so stability is more important to me than 2 weeks of CVS bleeding-edge goodness. :-) Thanks Raster, I'll start using the tarball from now on. I'll also look into changing the Gentoo ebuilds so we can get the tarball used by default instead of CVS. /me goes off to find vapier on IRC. According to vapier the ebuilds for E17 that use the tarballs at freedesktop already exist. You simply have to use ~ARCH instead of -* in your keywords and the e- ebuild will automatically use the tarballs instead of CVS. Also, the tarball versions are not always up-to-date with freedesktop. If you are getting an older version just wait a day or two and vapier will version bump. Apparently vapier has already submitted this info to the get-e.org site and is included in the user guide under distro specific info. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [E-devel] Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
That would be correct.On 1/25/06, Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nathan Ingersoll wrote: For those looking to donate, there is a small button on the left side of the menus on enlightenment.org below the navigation menu. This actually takes you to the SF donation page. As we are talking about donations to move away from SF, I would argue that we shouldn't pay their transaction fee in this case, but that is up to your discretion. If you would like to donate directly and bypass the fee you can submit a donation via Paypal to my email address. This is where the donations end up at the present time anyways.Assuming that would be [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??? --Until later, Geoffrey
Re: [e-users] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On 25/01/06, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. If so - what box do we really need? As for the hardware, I would suggest Sun Microsystems line of Galaxy servers. There are several models available, the smallest one starting at $745 (without HDD, CD/DVD). You can choose between one or two CPUs etc... Check out: http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CEServlet?process=SunStorecmdViewProduct_CPcatid=48589 To find out what system configuration is the best for the task in question, it would be cool to have some data of the thinktux-server. What system is it, what configuration has it got? (Nos and speed of CPU, RAM, HDDs, Controllers etc...) What about the system load in detail? Not all the load is produced by the CPU, a high amount of kernel activities or I/O wait is most of the time more crucial to the responsiveness of a system. I'm just asking because the desired configuration can easily double the price of the server. For the disk configuration I think a simple mirror would be enough. Since money is a concern it would be good to keep some money in the pocket so that in case a disk dies it can be replaced. 3. Are people willing to donate enough $ to make it happen? Yes. Setting up a paypal account we can send money to is a good idea. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Re: [E-devel] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On Wednesday, 25 January 2006, at 15:51:37 (+0900), Carsten Haitzler wrote: It seems CVS issues have been getting worse of late - SF.NET is being more overloaded than ever, and thinktux needs to go down soon enough. We need to solve this. Now This isn't edict, or guaranteed to happen, but it's an IDEA open for discussion. Apparently thinktux pulls some serious load and bandwidth - and that is not all of the anonymous CVS access we have. Apparently Thinktux's machine is farily overloaded CPU-wise and is pulling a good 25GB of CVS data traffic per day. I imagine this will only increase over time and if all anonymous CVS access is moved here - then it will get even worse. So after some discussions we have a tentative offer of free hosting and bandwidth from the guys at: http://osuosl.org/ - all we need is a server box. We can run what we want on this - including enlightenment.org's website, and we could host other pages if we want to too (get-e.org, edevelop.org etc.) if people desire, but the main issue here is easier ability to provide downloads of tarballs (currently enlightenment.freedesktop.org servers as this dumping ground due to sf.net limiting www space and use). and CVS - anonymous CVS. The problems are twofold - bandwidth and load here. The cAos Foundation (www.caosity.org) currently has a machine being hosted at OSUOSL, and we are willing to provide whatever assistance we can to the E project via that server and our other servers hosted elsewhere. We have multiple systems we can bring to bear on the problem and can provide rrDNS load balancing services to help share the burden. While we already support working Enlightenment installs out-of-the-box, we are currently moving toward using E 0.17 as our default desktop, and thanks to some excellent theming work from LinuXY and titansoccer15, we will have a customized default theme in the very near future. We are happy to provide whatever services we can to assist the project on a temporary or permanent basis, either in the interim while you gather resources for your own server, or for as long as you see fit. We are a non-profit corporation and have resources of our own for obtaining and deploying hosting, hardware, etc. which are at your disposal. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- Would you know my name if I saw you in heaven? Would it be the same if I saw you in heaven? I must be strong and carry on, 'cause I know I don't belong here in heaven. -- Eric Clapton, Tears in Heaven --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] e17 and screensaver / lock screen
hi people
i tried xscreensaver with e17..! i couldn't do it...
i use a cvs version of e17 on FC4_64
strace tells me this:
...
rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, {0x409649, [], SA_RESTORER|SA_NOMASK, 0x350422f330}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGXCPU, {0x409649, [], SA_RESTORER|SA_NOMASK, 0x350422f330}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGXFSZ, {0x409649, [], SA_RESTORER|SA_NOMASK, 0x350422f330}, NULL, 8) = 0
write(3, \2\2\0\1\0\200\1, 8) = 8
read(3, [EMAIL PROTECTED]..., 32) = 32
ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
select(4, [3], [], [], {4, 998630}) = 0 (Timeout)
ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0
select(4, [3], [], [], {0, 0}) = 0 (Timeout)
write(3, \2\2\0\1\0\200\1, 8) = 8
read(3, [EMAIL PROTECTED]..., 32) = 32
...
TOCOLS received
xscreensaver: 23:02:01: 0: for window 0x40 (root)
xscreensaver: 23:02:02: 0: unrecognised ClientMessage WM_PROTOCOLS received
xscreensaver: 23:02:02: 0: for window 0x40 (root)
xscreensaver: 23:02:02: 0: unrecognised ClientMessage WM_PROTOCOLS received
xscreensaver: 23:02:02: 0: for window 0x40 (root)
xscreensaver: 23:02:03: 0: unrecognised ClientMessage WM_PROTOCOLS received
xscreensaver: 23:02:03: 0: for window 0x40 (root)
Which screensaver are you using? i hope someone can give me a hint, i would like to lock my display!
Or includes e17 a feature like that?
regs,
Philip
[e-users] troubles compiling evas with today's CVS
RedHat Linux, intel cpu...??? running make: snip make[5]: Entering directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas/src/modules/engines/buffer' source='evas_engine.c' object='evas_engine.lo' libtool=yes \ depfile='.deps/evas_engine.Plo' tmpdepfile='.deps/evas_engine.TPlo' \ depmode=gcc3 /bin/sh ../../../../depcomp \ /bin/sh ../../../../libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../.. -I. -I../../../../src/lib -I../../../../src/lib/include -I../../../../src/modules/engines -I/usr/include/freetype2-g -O2 -c -o evas_engine.lo `test -f 'evas_engine.c' || echo './'`evas_engine.c rm -f .libs/evas_engine.lo gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../.. -I. -I../../../../src/lib -I../../../../src/lib/include -I../../../../src/modules/engines -I/usr/include/freetype2 -g -O2 -c evas_engine.c -MT evas_engine.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/evas_engine.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/evas_engine.lo evas_engine.c: In function `evas_engine_buffer_output_setup': evas_engine.c:294: `EVAS_ENGINE_BUFFER_DEPTH_RGB32' undeclared (first use in this function) evas_engine.c:294: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once evas_engine.c:294: for each function it appears in.) make[5]: *** [evas_engine.lo] Error 1 make[5]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas/src/modules/engines/buffer' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas/src/modules/engines' make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas/src/modules' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas' make: *** [all] Error 2 If you have anysuggestions... I'd sure be happy. -- Brian Howe ~=~=~=~=~ Love is something eternal, the aspect may change, but not the essence. - Vincent Van Gogh --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] e17 and screensaver / lock screen
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:03:22 +0100 Philip Sahli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i tried xscreensaver with e17..! i couldn't do it... i use a cvs version of e17 on FC4_64 snip Which screensaver are you using? i hope someone can give me a hint, i would like to lock my display! Or includes e17 a feature like that? xscreensaver works with E7. I have an xscreensaver lock command as one of the examples that come with the emu module. http://edevelop.org/emu pgpSvorMsUZig.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [e-users] troubles compiling evas with today's CVS
I get this always if I check out from the thinktux mirror. Use sf. Gerald RedHat Linux, intel cpu...??? running make: snip make[5]: Entering directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas/src/modules/engines/buffer' source='evas_engine.c' object='evas_engine.lo' libtool=yes \ depfile='.deps/evas_engine.Plo' tmpdepfile='.deps/evas_engine.TPlo' \ depmode=gcc3 /bin/sh ../../../../depcomp \ /bin/sh ../../../../libtool --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../.. -I. -I../../../../src/lib -I../../../../src/lib/include -I../../../../src/modules/engines -I/usr/include/freetype2-g -O2 -c -o evas_engine.lo `test -f 'evas_engine.c' || echo './'`evas_engine.c rm -f .libs/evas_engine.lo gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../../.. -I. -I../../../../src/lib -I../../../../src/lib/include -I../../../../src/modules/engines -I/usr/include/freetype2 -g -O2 -c evas_engine.c -MT evas_engine.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/evas_engine.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/evas_engine.lo evas_engine.c: In function `evas_engine_buffer_output_setup': evas_engine.c:294: `EVAS_ENGINE_BUFFER_DEPTH_RGB32' undeclared (first use in this function) evas_engine.c:294: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once evas_engine.c:294: for each function it appears in.) make[5]: *** [evas_engine.lo] Error 1 make[5]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas/src/modules/engines/buffer' make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas/src/modules/engines' make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas/src/modules' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/e17/e17/libs/evas' make: *** [all] Error 2 If you have anysuggestions... I'd sure be happy. -- Brian Howe ~=~=~=~=~ Love is something eternal, the aspect may change, but not the essence. - Vincent Van Gogh --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Re: [E-devel] Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
I've had a couple of questions related to donations for the server and what guarantees you receive with a donation. I'd like to address those before people jump the gun, and raster can weigh in on this when he wakes up. Short answer: none.Long answer: The money will go towards something to benefit the project. Right now we're discussing a server, and if that plan goes forward, we will need to raise a reasonable amount of money. If for some reason that plan were to fall through (hosting provider backs out, good free hosting becomes a better option, etc), I really don't want to be in the position of refunding money. So I can only guarantee that it will be used for something related to E. Could be a server, or maybe sending raster to a conference, who knows. I have not made a withdrawal since we started taking donations, about a year ago, so I can't give previous examples of what we have done in the past. Unless someone else wants to collect the money for the server and deal with refunding in the eventuality that plans change, we may want to look at something like fundable.org, at least until we are closer to our goal. If you just want the money to go to the project in general (which will be applied to the server if we go that route), then the Paypal donations previously mentioned will work fine. Thanks,Nathan
[e-users] need help with an entrance problem
Already some days entrance don't show up after boot. I get a blank screen and the keyboard is dead. I can't switch to another vt. From a remote machine I can see that entranced has started the X server and instances of entrance appear shortly and terminate again. In the X server log I can see that the X server is always going up and down, but it doesn't get a new pid. If I disable entrance start on boot, and start the init script from a shell prompt, entrance works as before. I have no Idea what has changed and it is not the vt problem. xdm starts without problems during boot, but it is so ugly. Anybody with an idea what could happen here? Gerald --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] Thinktux.net CVS Mirror
On 25/01/06, Gabriel Rossetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, That doesn't work for me, if I replace -* by ~x86 (since I have an x86) emerge complains : Calculating dependencies \ !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy e have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - x11-wm/e- (masked by: -* keyword) For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. is there something else that has to be done? Thanks, Gabriel No, you're right. The only package in Portage is e-. http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=x11-wm;name=e -Dusik --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
[e-users] Re: [E-devel] (Summary reply) Anonymous CVS Servers - YOU CAN HELP!
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:29:32 -0500 Michael Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: OK - This is a summary reply to this thread so far, as there are a lot of mails, answering each one is not going to be easy - I'll summarise here. Tell us where to donate and we will - well for over a year now there has been a donate butotn on www.enlightenment.org - on the left side, see where it says in an image icon put your money where your mouth is - support us - there. we have been registered for the ef.net donation system for a while now. donations are pretty sparse and small - maybe people just don't notice. but you CAN donate. currently donations go into a paypal account KITTY run by Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]. We have been letting funds accumulate a bit to maybe one day afford something like this. So how - either donate DIRECTLY via Paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or if you don't trust that donate vis sf.net's donation system and let them have their cut (we won't see all the money then). i think they take 5% from memory and paypal have fees too. 25GB of traffic isn't much - Well sure. Fileserving isn't. If it's CVS where it has to process a lot - svn too, then it puts load. Also thats only thinktux, and that may go up over time too. Also remember it will come in spikes - so provisioning for them is a good idea. I'll help donate - FANTASTIC! The response has been very positive so far and I am pleasantly surprised with it. This is great. of course we will want to post more prominently to annouce lists, on the website, get-e.org, edevelop.org etc., but this is a good indicator of people lisitening in the last 24hrs and those reading and responding to their email. You don't need to run and donate right now - we should first still decide if this IS the right option for us and then how much it wil cost us to set up. Ongoing costs are simply hardware maintenance and people's time spent administering the system. I can help administer - Great! We need to spread the work and responsability. We likely will give access to those people who have been KNOWN to be hanging around for a long time and are enthusiastic and dependable. We can't have 100 admins - too many cooks, so if you are not chosen - be happy. Less work to do. But we will need a core team of peolpe who have good clue to make sure security updates do get installed, help set up and fix/update services run etc. Google ads bring in $x/month - Good point Handy. It's a server. It doesn't last forever. Eventually hard drives die. We can maintain the system in 2 ways. 1. Keep asking for donations so we can keep filling the kitty for repairse, or 2. put up unobtrusive google ads like get-e.org. On sf.net we simply are not allowed to do this. Some poeple abhor ads and will tell us we suck for putting them up. Ok - point made. Will those same people then donate money instead every year? The choices are - machine falls apart eventually and CVS etc. go away, OR we pester peolpe for donations, OR we just slowly build up kitty funds via ads over time. IF we move www.enlightenment.org to our own server and collect minimal advertising funds to just keep it alive - i hope we don't offend too many people. As Handy pointed out - it's not a lot of $ - but over a year it adds up to enough to buy replacement drives when they die etc. enlightenment.org is slow - We can't do much - It's hosted on sf.net and hoevere fast it is - is how fast e.org will be. If we run our own server we have a bit more control - but also we have fewer freidns to help push up the service quality of the network overall. We likely can't be putting sites everywhere (in the USA, UK, Japan, China, India, etc.). We could definitely have the option of local mirrors for speedier access in the future. Though I say I am in Japan and enlightenment.org isn't too bad. Maybe you forget the days of 14.4k modems... :) Where will the server be - We have a tentative offer of hosting at: http://osuosl.org/ It's in Oregon, USA. Free bandwidth - free rackspace, power and minimal administration as needed to be done by the lab. We can and likely will administer our own box and simply give them root password info as a courtesy in case poo hits the fan and they need it. I can't donate to paypal - I live in Lebanon - That is a problem. You can do international wire transfers to a friend and have them donate for you, But beware - such transfers costs a lot - from $10-$60 to do the transfer so you may spend more in wire transfer fees than the donation itself. There are other resources we can use instead of our own server - Very good point. I agree - in fact that is what we have been doing. What I am afraid of though is - we use someones services - greatfully, but then their manager decides to make the box sell more web space, or they get fired or quit their job and then the box is in limbo and one day we find ourselves without such services. OK then the solution is to have lots of them- but this multiplies the work as it has to be
