Re: [e-users] Wayland problems

2019-01-10 Thread Conrad Knight
On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 1:39 PM Carsten Haitzler  wrote:
> As usual - wayland stuff is kind of new and experimental so I'd advise using
> git master for that.
> as for how to compile - look at the aur git pkgs:

Ok, i'll give it a shot :) Couple of quick questions:

For EFL, are "--enable-egl" and "--enable-gl-drm" not needed, then?
What configure option does "-Dbuffer=true" correspond to?
Does "-Dopengl=es-egl" mean "--with-opengl=es"? Because i don't see
any other options besides "full" or "none".

I have to admit, i'm a little lost on the differences and requirements
for opengl, gl-drm, egl, es-egl, etc. Is there by any chance a short
reference to all these terms?

Thanks,
-Conrad.

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Re: [e-users] Any known E22 graphics issues?

2019-01-10 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 11:52:27 +0100 waterbeare...@gmx.com said:

> El mié, 31-10-2018 a las 09:20 +, Carsten Haitzler escribió:
> > On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 06:51:24 +0100 "Roy Reese"  > > said:
> > 
> > > > Enviar: miércoles 31 de octubre de 2018 a las 0:10
> > > > De: "Roy Reese" 
> > > > Para: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Asunto: [e-users] Any known E22 video issues?
> > > > 
> > > > OK, this is about to deal with Java which is its own can of
> > > > worms, but I
> > > > recently had to install a Java-based tax program here in Spain
> > > > which
> > > > installs and runs perfectly on my small Mageia 6 (stable) laptop
> > > > with E21,
> > > > but which has a completely transparent main window on my regular
> > > > Mageia
> > > > Cauldron (development) laptop with E22. All the popup windows
> > > > render
> > > > perfectly, but not the main one -- which creates a wee bit of a
> > > > usability
> > > > issue.
> > > > 
> > > > The first suspect was a driver. However, by default Mageia
> > > > installs a light
> > > > IceWM alongside the main DE . . . and the program works just fine
> > > > in an
> > > > IceWM session in Cauldron -- pretty much narrowing it down to
> > > > something not
> > > > playing nice with E22.
> > > > 
> > > > Are there any known graphics/rendering issues with E22 and some
> > > > of the
> > > > latest packages (e.g., meson)? Any tips for tracking the problem
> > > > down?
> > > > 
> > > > I know that the Mageia devs will soon be moving toward a freeze
> > > > to get Mga7
> > > > out, so I would like to see if the problem can be isolated/fixed.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > Graphics issues, not video. I have to not write these things late
> > > at night.
> > 
> > try another  compositor - icewm is not a compositing wm. have your
> > tried
> > resizing the window? restart e while it is up? (ctrl+alt+end)?
> > 
> OK, I finally got back to the issue and playing with compositing
> options did nothing, but restarting e did. So, will I just have to do
> that as a work around or does that suggest something that can be done
> so it will work out of the box?
> 
> One note: my Mga6 machine, where the program works with no problem is a
> small laptop with just Intel graphics. My main Mga7 machine is an
> nVidia Optimus laptop with the proprietary nVidia driver (which I have
> needed in order to get edge bindings to work properly even with the
> Intel on-board graphics as default).

so intel vs nvidia drivers basically, right? and perhaps different versions of
xorg, kernel, etc. etc.

i really don't know why it doesn't work - have you tried resizing the window?


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Re: [e-users] Wayland problems

2019-01-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 12:48:26 -0500 Conrad Knight  said:

As usual - wayland stuff is kind of new and experimental so I'd advise using
git master for that.

as for how to compile - look at the aur git pkgs:

https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=efl-git
https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=enlightenment-git

:) That should get you up to date on the options. Indeed that wiki page is not
up to date

> I've followed the instructions on this page:
> 
> https://www.enlightenment.org/about-wayland
> 
> adding the necessary configure options. (Note:
> --enable-wayland-clients and --enable-wayland-egl for enlightenment's
> configure are not recognised. I used --enable-wayland instead.)
> 
> I'm using efl 1.21.1 and enlightenment 0.22.4.
> 
> Everything seems to work, except for these two problems:
> 1) There's a big, fat arrow cursor in the center of the screen. I
> would say it's the default X cursor, but this is wayland... It's
> separate from the normal cursor, which functions as expected. It's a
> static cursor image that appears on top of everything else.

git :)

> 2) Window decorations appear to be broken! I have a borderless
> terminology window, and completely decoration-free conky windows open
> on startup, and they all have borders and drop shadow. Programs (such
> as Chrome) that manage their own decorations and positioning also have
> an enlightenment border added, creating a double-border effect, and
> their positioning over-ridden.

try git. i use it very often on a range of ARM boards and all of this works.
Out of the box.

> Are there fixes or configuration settings to correct either of these?
> 
> Another quick question -- that same web page mentions a wayland-only
> option, but the link to those instructions says it's not safe for
> everyday use. Is this still the case? Obviously, until the above
> problems are fixed, i'm not about to compile enlightenment without X
> support.

I've never enabled wayland only. I want xwayland to work so there is x
compatibility for apps/toolkits that cant do wayland yet. :)

> Thanks,
> -Conrad.
> 
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[e-users] Wayland problems

2019-01-10 Thread Conrad Knight
I've followed the instructions on this page:

https://www.enlightenment.org/about-wayland

adding the necessary configure options. (Note:
--enable-wayland-clients and --enable-wayland-egl for enlightenment's
configure are not recognised. I used --enable-wayland instead.)

I'm using efl 1.21.1 and enlightenment 0.22.4.

Everything seems to work, except for these two problems:
1) There's a big, fat arrow cursor in the center of the screen. I
would say it's the default X cursor, but this is wayland... It's
separate from the normal cursor, which functions as expected. It's a
static cursor image that appears on top of everything else.

2) Window decorations appear to be broken! I have a borderless
terminology window, and completely decoration-free conky windows open
on startup, and they all have borders and drop shadow. Programs (such
as Chrome) that manage their own decorations and positioning also have
an enlightenment border added, creating a double-border effect, and
their positioning over-ridden.

Are there fixes or configuration settings to correct either of these?

Another quick question -- that same web page mentions a wayland-only
option, but the link to those instructions says it's not safe for
everyday use. Is this still the case? Obviously, until the above
problems are fixed, i'm not about to compile enlightenment without X
support.

Thanks,
-Conrad.

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Re: [e-users] Any known E22 graphics issues?

2019-01-10 Thread waterbearer54
El mié, 31-10-2018 a las 09:20 +, Carsten Haitzler escribió:
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 06:51:24 +0100 "Roy Reese"  > said:
> 
> > > Enviar: miércoles 31 de octubre de 2018 a las 0:10
> > > De: "Roy Reese" 
> > > Para: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Asunto: [e-users] Any known E22 video issues?
> > > 
> > > OK, this is about to deal with Java which is its own can of
> > > worms, but I
> > > recently had to install a Java-based tax program here in Spain
> > > which
> > > installs and runs perfectly on my small Mageia 6 (stable) laptop
> > > with E21,
> > > but which has a completely transparent main window on my regular
> > > Mageia
> > > Cauldron (development) laptop with E22. All the popup windows
> > > render
> > > perfectly, but not the main one -- which creates a wee bit of a
> > > usability
> > > issue.
> > > 
> > > The first suspect was a driver. However, by default Mageia
> > > installs a light
> > > IceWM alongside the main DE . . . and the program works just fine
> > > in an
> > > IceWM session in Cauldron -- pretty much narrowing it down to
> > > something not
> > > playing nice with E22.
> > > 
> > > Are there any known graphics/rendering issues with E22 and some
> > > of the
> > > latest packages (e.g., meson)? Any tips for tracking the problem
> > > down?
> > > 
> > > I know that the Mageia devs will soon be moving toward a freeze
> > > to get Mga7
> > > out, so I would like to see if the problem can be isolated/fixed.
> > > 
> > > 
> > Graphics issues, not video. I have to not write these things late
> > at night.
> 
> try another  compositor - icewm is not a compositing wm. have your
> tried
> resizing the window? restart e while it is up? (ctrl+alt+end)?
> 
OK, I finally got back to the issue and playing with compositing
options did nothing, but restarting e did. So, will I just have to do
that as a work around or does that suggest something that can be done
so it will work out of the box?

One note: my Mga6 machine, where the program works with no problem is a
small laptop with just Intel graphics. My main Mga7 machine is an
nVidia Optimus laptop with the proprietary nVidia driver (which I have
needed in order to get edge bindings to work properly even with the
Intel on-board graphics as default).



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