Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-21 Thread Geoffrey
Ravenlock wrote:
 On 12/20/2007 21:01, Geoffrey wrote:
 Geoffrey wrote:
 So now it works.  I did update some files, so I'm guessing a bug was fixed.
 And now it doesn't work.  I don't get it.  I don't see what has changed. 
   I've not even rebooted this box or logged out.
 
 Are you using a screensaver in addition to using dpms?   If so which?
 
 Also,  try running the following script in a terminal to see if your
 dpms settings are getting changed without your knowledge:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 while [ 1 ]
 do
 sleep 15
 echo `date +%d-%m-%Y-%H:%M; xset -q | grep -e Monitor -e DPMS
 -e Standby`
 done
 
 might change the sleep value to a minute or so.

Yeah, I actually have been checking xset output and it appears DPMS is 
on.  The weird thing is that I rechecked my power management settings 
via E configuration and now it's working again.

I'm not sure what causes it to stop working and I'm not sure what causes 
it to start working.  I'm going to start working on narrowing it down to 
see if there's one specific thing that's causing this issue.  For 
starters, I'm not going to change anything for a few days to see if it 
continuously works.  If so, then I'll start doing one thing at a time, 
like, I'll exit the window manager and log back in and see if it's still 
working.  If not, I'll then check xset values and then reconfigure via E 
and see if that fixes it.

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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-21 Thread P Purka
Geoffrey wrote:
 Ravenlock wrote:
   
 On 12/20/2007 21:01, Geoffrey wrote:
 
 Geoffrey wrote:
   
 So now it works.  I did update some files, so I'm guessing a bug was fixed.
 
 And now it doesn't work.  I don't get it.  I don't see what has changed. 
   I've not even rebooted this box or logged out.
   
 Are you using a screensaver in addition to using dpms?   If so which?

 Also,  try running the following script in a terminal to see if your
 dpms settings are getting changed without your knowledge:

 #!/bin/sh

 while [ 1 ]
 do
 sleep 15
 echo `date +%d-%m-%Y-%H:%M; xset -q | grep -e Monitor -e DPMS
 -e Standby`
 done

 might change the sleep value to a minute or so.
 

 Yeah, I actually have been checking xset output and it appears DPMS is 
 on.  The weird thing is that I rechecked my power management settings 
 via E configuration and now it's working again.

 I'm not sure what causes it to stop working and I'm not sure what causes 
 it to start working.  I'm going to start working on narrowing it down to 
 see if there's one specific thing that's causing this issue.  For 
 starters, I'm not going to change anything for a few days to see if it 
 continuously works.  If so, then I'll start doing one thing at a time, 
 like, I'll exit the window manager and log back in and see if it's still 
 working.  If not, I'll then check xset values and then reconfigure via E 
 and see if that fixes it.

   
I have noticed this bug for several months. And it happens in e17 and 
also kde (3.5.7).  I use e17 almost exclusively, but I have noticed this 
even when I had unchecked every power management setting in e17, and 
instead used display power management from kpowersave.
Steps to reproduce:
1. In the e17 config, set the suspend, poweroff, etc timeoffs to 1min so 
that you don't have to wait too long and enable the power management
2. Wait for 1 min without disturbing the mouse/keyboard.
3. Ensure that power management works (display turns off)
4. Now, start mplayer on a video file and ensure that DPMS is off (xset 
q | grep -i dpms)
5. let the video run for longer than 1min till it finishes. mplayer will 
exit and automatically re-enable the DPMS: verify that DPMS is enabled 
using xset  q again.
6. Now, leave the machine undisturbed for more than 1min

My experience: the DPMS does get enabled (after mplayer exits) but the 
display does not turn off.

I am using xorg-server 1.3, xset 1.0.2, xorg-x11 7.2 on a gentoo based 
installation.

While writing this mail, I tested the above steps in failsafe mode 
(only an xterm is open and no WM is running). And the DPMS setting 
works, contrary to my experience in kde/e17.


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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-20 Thread Geoffrey
Geoffrey wrote:
 So now it works.  I did update some files, so I'm guessing a bug was fixed.

And now it doesn't work.  I don't get it.  I don't see what has changed. 
  I've not even rebooted this box or logged out.


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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-17 Thread Geoffrey
So now it works.  I did update some files, so I'm guessing a bug was fixed.

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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-15 Thread Geoffrey
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:09:27 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:
 
 I unplugged the usb transmitter for the keyboard and mouse and still, 
 the monitor was lit up the next morning.  More research I guess.
 
 as i said - i found a particular version of x - can't remember which, refused 
 to
 blank/power down. it would blank, turn off, then turn right back on again 1
 second later. this was ubuntu feisty's version i think. it got fixed in gutsy.
 it works now.

Yeah, this is a multi-boot box, so I'm going to try another distro for 
grins.  I'm going to test other wm as well, to try and nail it down.  It 
could well be a problem with Fedora 8.  I'm also going to put Fedora 8 
and E on another box to see if the problem exists there.

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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-14 Thread Geoffrey
Geoffrey wrote:
 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
 On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:44:44 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:

 Geoffrey wrote:
 I've installed and configured display power management, but it does not 
 appear to work at all.  I leave my computer at night, screen locked, and 
 the next morning both monitors are still lit.
 A little bit more info.  xset shows:

 DPMS (Energy Star):
Standby: 1800Suspend: 3600Off: 4500
DPMS is Enabled
Monitor is On

 I don't get it.  Unfortunately, I updated E as well as  upgraded the 
 distro, so I'm not sure which might be the problem.  Before I got E 
 going again on this install, I'm sure the monitor standby/suspend/off 
 was working though.
 works for me - but i did notice on ubuntu feisty - before my upgrade to 
 gutsy,
 dpms was also broken for x. blank would kick in then unblank a second later. 
 so
 e itself works  here and screen blanking/suspend/poweroff work fine. some
 people have reported problems with jittery mice that even if they sit there 
 all
 night move the pointer around every now and again (hardware issue generally -
 but nothing e can solve as e just gets told by x the mouse moved - it doesn't
 know if that's just noise or a real movement, but either way - i there is ANY
 movement x will disable display suspend and e doesn't have a choice in that).
 
 Interesting point.  It's a combo wireless mouse/keyboard.  I'm going to 
 unplug them this evening and see if that might be it.

I unplugged the usb transmitter for the keyboard and mouse and still, 
the monitor was lit up the next morning.  More research I guess.

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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-12-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:09:27 -0500 Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:

 
 I unplugged the usb transmitter for the keyboard and mouse and still, 
 the monitor was lit up the next morning.  More research I guess.

as i said - i found a particular version of x - can't remember which, refused to
blank/power down. it would blank, turn off, then turn right back on again 1
second later. this was ubuntu feisty's version i think. it got fixed in gutsy.
it works now.

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Re: [e-users] power saving module

2007-11-29 Thread Geoffrey
Geoffrey wrote:
 I've installed and configured display power management, but it does not 
 appear to work at all.  I leave my computer at night, screen locked, and 
 the next morning both monitors are still lit.

A little bit more info.  xset shows:

DPMS (Energy Star):
   Standby: 1800Suspend: 3600Off: 4500
   DPMS is Enabled
   Monitor is On

I don't get it.  Unfortunately, I updated E as well as  upgraded the 
distro, so I'm not sure which might be the problem.  Before I got E 
going again on this install, I'm sure the monitor standby/suspend/off 
was working though.

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[e-users] power saving module

2007-11-28 Thread Geoffrey
I've installed and configured display power management, but it does not 
appear to work at all.  I leave my computer at night, screen locked, and 
the next morning both monitors are still lit.

Ideas?
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