[Eug-lug]Touchpad

2002-10-27 Thread Bob Crandell
Hi,

Someone gave me one of those natural keyboards with a touchpad for a mouse.  I can
get gpm to use the mouse correctly but I can't figure out how to make X use it.

What is this supposed to say?
Option   Protocol  IMPs/2

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Re: [Eug-lug]Touchpad

2002-10-27 Thread Mike O
One thing for sure, IMPS/2 probably won't work
correctly. Why not backup your XF86Config and run
through a manual config to see if touchpad or tablet
is available as an option. 


--- Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is this supposed to say?
 Option   Protocol  IMPs/2
 
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Re: [Eug-lug]Touchpad

2002-10-27 Thread Bob Crandell
Hi,

I've been working on a remote Mandrake server.  I don't have physical access to it
'cause it too far away.  I have been trying to get rpmdrake to pull RPMs from a FTP
source instead of from the CDs.  Is someone using rpmdrake with FTP?  What did you
put in the properties?

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Re: [Eug-lug]Touchpad

2002-10-27 Thread Mike O
-1 Offtopic

Can it not be handled through SSH? SSH in, grab lynx,
and go from there I say. 



--- Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've been working on a remote Mandrake server.  I
 don't have physical access to it
 'cause it too far away.  I have been trying to get
 rpmdrake to pull RPMs from a FTP
 source instead of from the CDs.  Is someone using
 rpmdrake with FTP?  What did you
 put in the properties?
 
 Thanks
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Re: [Eug-lug]rpmdrake

2002-10-27 Thread Bob Crandell
How can I learn rpmdrake if I do it that way?

Mike O ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:

-1 Offtopic

Can it not be handled through SSH? SSH in, grab lynx,
and go from there I say.



--- Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I've been working on a remote Mandrake server.  I
 don't have physical access to it
 'cause it too far away.  I have been trying to get
 rpmdrake to pull RPMs from a FTP
 source instead of from the CDs.  Is someone using
 rpmdrake with FTP?  What did you
 put in the properties?

 Thanks
 --
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Re: [Eug-lug]rpmdrake

2002-10-27 Thread Mike O
rpmdrake in not available in a command line flavor?
Maybe it's time to for a little TightVNC. Where
there's a problem there's a solution. Unless it's an
MS problem.


--- Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can I learn rpmdrake if I do it that way?
 
 Mike O ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
 
 -1 Offtopic
 
 Can it not be handled through SSH? SSH in, grab
 lynx,
 and go from there I say.


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Re: [Eug-lug]rpmdrake

2002-10-27 Thread Bob Crandell
I'm not having truoble *running* rpmdrake.  I don't know how to configure it so will
pull RPMs from and FTP server instead of a CD.

Mike O ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:

rpmdrake in not available in a command line flavor?
Maybe it's time to for a little TightVNC. Where
there's a problem there's a solution. Unless it's an
MS problem.


--- Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How can I learn rpmdrake if I do it that way?

 Mike O ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
 
 -1 Offtopic
 
 Can it not be handled through SSH? SSH in, grab
 lynx,
 and go from there I say.


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Re: [Eug-lug]rpmdrake

2002-10-27 Thread Mike O
http://www.linuxpub.pl/man/user_mk/index.php?op=softwaremanager.html
Hope that helps. It was the first thing I could find
in English. 


--- Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not having truoble *running* rpmdrake.  I don't
 know how to configure it so will
 pull RPMs from and FTP server instead of a CD.
 


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Re: [Eug-lug]Touchpad

2002-10-27 Thread Timothy Bolz
Bob

You didn't specify XF86Config or XF86Config-4.  I found there are some 
diferences.  

I found this on a link .  You can try XF86Config-4

section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Protocol  IntelliMouse
Option  Device/dev/gpmdata
Option  Emulate3Buttons   true
EndSection


I found this link which might help
http://www.computing.net/linux/wwwboard/forum/15055.html

Hope this helps

Tim


On Sunday 27 October 2002 09:48 am, you wrote:
 Hi,

 Someone gave me one of those natural keyboards with a touchpad for a mouse.
  I can get gpm to use the mouse correctly but I can't figure out how to
 make X use it.

 What is this supposed to say?
 Option   Protocol  IMPs/2

 Thanks

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[Eug-lug]VOTE! (for newbie track topics)

2002-10-27 Thread Bob Miller
Yeah, general elections are coming up, and they're a lot more
important than EUGLUG.  But your vote will definitely count in the
EUGLUG polls -- we have no smoke-filled back rooms, no gerrymandering,
no multimillion dollar propaganda campaigns, and no paid signature
collectors.  (But I'm willing to explore bribery -- make your
checks payable to... (-: )

Rob and Beaker put up a new poll on the EUGLUG web site, listing some
newbie track presentation topics we're thinking about doing.  Our plan
is to do one newbie presentation each month through the winter and
spring, but we need to know what topics are of greatest interest.

If you're a newbie, or if you know a newbie, or if you were a newbie
once, take a second and vote for the topics that would most interest
your inner newbie.

And if there is a topic you'd like to see, but it isn't listed, send
some mail to me or to this list.

The URL is...

http://www.euglug.org/

Go there.  Now.

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Re: [Eug-lug]Networking question from a novice

2002-10-27 Thread Cory Petkovsek
100baseTX: theoretical max speed (half duplex): 100Mb/sec / 8 = 12.5MB/sec
My laptop ide harddrive (read): 16.45 MB/sec

A single harddrive will be able to handle network traffic in most cases.
For a server it should have some sort of raid subsystem with multiple
drives which will allow it to exceed network traffic.  You'll never see
that theoretical maximum however, not with ethernet.  An average file
transfer over 100baseTX might be 3-4 MB/sec.  However I've been able to
get one of my linux servers to accept a sustained rate of about
10MB/sec.  This was done by having samba on the linux server.  Then I
copied many GBs of data to it simultaneously from 5 windows nt and 2000
servers and clients.  

The console tool I used to monitor my traffic is iptraf.  The command
iptraf -g will show general statistics.  It can be configured to show
bits or bytes, dump traffic, and many other statistics and information.
I recommend it for bandwidth monitoring.

Cory


On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 08:33:15PM -0700, Ben Barrett wrote:
 Right-o!  The latest Samba knows about NFS and they should respect each
 others' file-locks.  You might consider using *only* one or the other,
 if you tend toward manic about network traffic; there are only a few
 options for doing NFS on windows, though... Samba does the SMB protocol
 better than M$ on the other hand!  NFS is UDP, so you might want to find
 out if your network device (the SMC Barricade?) is a full-speed switch
 or has the limiting problems of older routers: you'll want full-speed
 100baseTX, with full duplex to connect the machines that will be doing
 the major file-sharing, right folks?  I'm not sure off the top of my
 head, but I think our hard drives are fast enough to use 100base...
 I've mostly done SCP (SSH's FTP) for moving files around even trusted
 networks... but it is certainly not as convenient as having a mount
 point (or drag-n-drop, although gui SCP clients are sweet too).
 Set up two major samba shares, where I've worked, they've been great and
 are on an IDE-RAID, striped.  Very solid; the only problems I've had are
 on linux clients, which have shares mounted, when I restart the server
 or just the service; those client have hung badly at times.  I think
 this problem is (or has been) fixed... haven't tested it in a while!
 
   cheers,
 
  Ben
 
 
 On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 20:42, Bob Crandell wrote:
  In that case, Samba would be the easiest to get your files from Windows.  Then you
  can use NFS to allow your Linux boxes to share files.
  
 
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Re: [Eug-lug]Touchpad

2002-10-27 Thread Cory Petkovsek
Here's mine with a laptop touchpad, although I connect an external ps/2
mouse to it.  GPM runs from console.  X4.

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol ps/2
Option  Device /dev/gpmdata
Option  Emulate3Buttons
EndSection



On Sun, Oct 27, 2002 at 03:48:41PM +, Bob Crandell wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Someone gave me one of those natural keyboards with a touchpad for a mouse.  I can
 get gpm to use the mouse correctly but I can't figure out how to make X use it.
 
 What is this supposed to say?
 Option   Protocol  IMPs/2
 
 Thanks
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Re: [Eug-lug]rpmdrake

2002-10-27 Thread P Casper
Erm. I have mine set up to ftp from
ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/8.1/RPMS
For upates.

9.0 RPMS are at
ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/current/i586/Mandrake/RPMS

Enter either of those into Define Sources for rmpdrake, and it should
get you what you need.

--PC

On Sun, 2002-10-27 at 09:02, Bob Crandell wrote:
 I'm not having truoble *running* rpmdrake.  I don't know how to configure it so will
 pull RPMs from and FTP server instead of a CD.
 
 Mike O ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
 
 rpmdrake in not available in a command line flavor?
 Maybe it's time to for a little TightVNC. Where
 there's a problem there's a solution. Unless it's an
 MS problem.
 
 
 --- Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How can I learn rpmdrake if I do it that way?
 
  Mike O ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*:
  
  -1 Offtopic
  
  Can it not be handled through SSH? SSH in, grab
  lynx,
  and go from there I say.
 
 
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Re: [Eug-lug]Networking question from a novice

2002-10-27 Thread Bob Miller
Cory Petkovsek wrote:

 100baseTX: theoretical max speed (half duplex): 100Mb/sec / 8 = 12.5MB/sec
 My laptop ide harddrive (read): 16.45 MB/sec
 
 A single harddrive will be able to handle network traffic in most cases.

The problem is that many real workloads require the disk to seek.  If
your laptop drive's average seek time is 8 milliseconds, then a seek
takes as long as transferring 135 Kbytes of data.

The worst case is when you seek before each read or write.  Then you
can only transfer 125 blocks per second.  (I'm being intentionally
vague about the size of a block.)

In many cases, a disk is much slower than a 100 Mbit ethernet.

 The console tool I used to monitor my traffic is iptraf.

Cool.  Who knew?

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[Eug-lug]Too Hot (baby)?

2002-10-27 Thread Beaker (aka Jeff W.)
I've got a hardware question: how hot is too hot WRT hard drives? The 
Fujitsu 4 GB UltraSCSI drive I just did an install on is a little loud 
and seems to run hot, though no errors were experienced during the 
install. I stuck an digital thermometer on it: 97.1 F. This was with the 
case open  the drive sitting on top, so it wasn't getting the benefit 
of normal case cooling. Does that seem too hot?

~Beaker

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Re: [Eug-lug]Too Hot (baby)?

2002-10-27 Thread Po Petz
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Beaker (aka Jeff W.) wrote:

 I've got a hardware question: how hot is too hot WRT hard drives? The
 Fujitsu 4 GB UltraSCSI drive I just did an install on is a little loud
 and seems to run hot, though no errors were experienced during the
 install. I stuck an digital thermometer on it: 97.1 F. This was with the
 case open  the drive sitting on top, so it wasn't getting the benefit
 of normal case cooling. Does that seem too hot?

That doesn't sound too bad, but you might want to check the drive
manufacturer's physical spec sheets to determine temperature range.  A
quick browse over http://hdd.fujitsu.com/global/drive/ suggests that they
can generally tolerate up to 120F.  You might check out your specific
model number.

-po

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Re: [Eug-lug]Too Hot (baby)?

2002-10-27 Thread Mike O
Get yerself one of these...
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/van502ahdcoo.html
You'll amazed how much cooler and better your drive
will run. Especailly under load. 
Good company to deal with. I've gotten a few things
from them.

--- Beaker (aka Jeff W.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I've got a hardware question: how hot is too hot WRT
 hard drives? The 
 Fujitsu 4 GB UltraSCSI drive I just did an install
 on is a little loud 
 and seems to run hot, though no errors were
 experienced during the 
 install. I stuck an digital thermometer on it: 97.1
 F. This was with the 
 case open  the drive sitting on top, so it wasn't
 getting the benefit 
 of normal case cooling. Does that seem too hot?
 
 ~Beaker


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Re: [Eug-lug]Touchpad

2002-10-27 Thread Timothy Bolz
Bob

I also found this the Linux Touchpad Driver.  From what I've read it has a 
lot of information.

http://compass.com/synaptics/

Tim


On Sunday 27 October 2002 09:48 am, you wrote:
 Hi,

 Someone gave me one of those natural keyboards with a touchpad for a mouse.
  I can get gpm to use the mouse correctly but I can't figure out how to
 make X use it.

 What is this supposed to say?
 Option   Protocol  IMPs/2

 Thanks

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