Re: [Eug-lug]Dynamic Ip
Thanks for all the ideas and possible solutions. I have gone with Winscp, it really makes it easy for the windows user. Dave --- Dave Wyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Winscp you mentioned seems to work nicely. I prefer the free or low cost solution(s), as I am sure most of us do. I'm still looking and I'll let you (and the list) know what I end up using. Dave --- Cory Petkovsek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, When looking for a client, search around for the keyword sftp. The protocol is really ssh2 running over port 22 and has little to do with the ftp protocol running on port 21. psftp is a program from the putty suite. Jacob mentioned coolftp, but I'm not sure if that is no-cost. I mentioned a windows client that is freeware but I'm not sure if that really means no-cost ware or free speech ware. Cory - Snip! - __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [Eug-lug]Dynamic Ip
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 09:20:10PM -0800, Linux Rocks! wrote: Couldnt you just have a login/logout script that checks the users connection, and update the hosts.allow ? One can use authpf on OpenBSD (ssh authentication to change packet filter/translation rules). http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=authpf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [Eug-lug]Dynamic Ip
Granted their IP address changes but usually only the last part. Just a guess but couldnt you restrict access except from local lan addresses and from their ISP? then use htpasswd to let them login with name and pass. id be worried about anything that dynamically changes the hosts.allow on the fly. someone would find a way to spoof it. On Sunday 08 December 2002 12:20 am, Linux Rocks ! wrote: Couldnt you just have a login/logout script that checks the users connection, and update the hosts.allow ? Jamie On Saturday 07 December 2002 09:06 pm, Bob Miller wrote: : Dave Wyatt wrote: : We have a web server and the public is not allowed to : access via FTp (a good thing). It is set up so the : web directories can be accessed from the internal : network and one or two ip addresses from the external : network (internet). : : The problem is one of the owners wants to be able to : make changes to the site from their home DSL service : (Rio) but their IP is different each time they log on. : Is there a way to authorize that person since they : have a dynamic IP but no real Domain Name? : : I read what Cory, Jake, and Mike said, and the scp solution is : reasonable. But here's another idea. : : Mozilla has Composer, a decent WYSIWYG HTML editor. Composer has a : Publish button. If you set up publishing settings to use : http:... or https:... as the publishing address, then it will use an : HTTP PUT command to write the file directly into the document root. : : From the user's POV, this is ideal. He loads a page into Composer (or : creates a new page). He edits it. He hits Publish. The page is : instantly live on the web. What could be better? : : You can set up authentication in a number of ways. : : Best (most secure) would be to run Apache-SSL as well as Apache. : Then you can set the permissions in Apache-SSL's httpd.conf to : allow certain users to PUT. Don't use the same username/passwords : that the non-SSL site uses (if it uses any). Then the user : has to use the https:... address to edit the page. : : Good (sort of secure) would be to allow users to authenticate with : digest authentication. (Use the AuthType directive.) Using digest : authentication, an eavesdropper can see the stuff being uploaded, : but can't upload stuff him/herself. : : Bad (not secure at all) would be to allow users to PUT without : authentication, or to use basic authentication. That might be : acceptable in an intranet, where everybody is trusted. But it : wouldn't work if the same server is also visible from The Internet. : : I'm sorry this isn't a cookbook procedure. I have never set the whole : thing up this way, though I've played with most of the pieces. But it : shouldn't be too hard, if you're comfortable configuring Apache. : : I have no idea whether IE also has a composer module. And I ain't : apologizing for that! (-: ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [Eug-lug]Dynamic Ip
The Winscp you mentioned seems to work nicely. I prefer the free or low cost solution(s), as I am sure most of us do. I'm still looking and I'll let you (and the list) know what I end up using. Dave --- Cory Petkovsek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, When looking for a client, search around for the keyword sftp. The protocol is really ssh2 running over port 22 and has little to do with the ftp protocol running on port 21. psftp is a program from the putty suite. Jacob mentioned coolftp, but I'm not sure if that is no-cost. I mentioned a windows client that is freeware but I'm not sure if that really means no-cost ware or free speech ware. Cory - Snip! - __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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--- Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave Wyatt wrote: We have a web server and the public is not allowed to access via FTp (a good thing). It is set up so the web directories can be accessed from the internal network and one or two ip addresses from the external network (internet). The problem is one of the owners wants to be able to make changes to the site from their home DSL service (Rio) but their IP is different each time they log on. Is there a way to authorize that person since they have a dynamic IP but no real Domain Name? I read what Cory, Jake, and Mike said, and the scp solution is reasonable. But here's another idea. Mozilla has Composer, a decent WYSIWYG HTML editor. Composer has a Publish button. If you set up publishing settings to use http:... or https:... as the publishing address, then it will use an HTTP PUT command to write the file directly into the document root. From the user's POV, this is ideal. He loads a page into Composer (or creates a new page). He edits it. He hits Publish. The page is instantly live on the web. What could be better? You can set up authentication in a number of ways. Best (most secure) would be to run Apache-SSL as well as Apache. Then you can set the permissions in Apache-SSL's httpd.conf to allow certain users to PUT. Don't use the same username/passwords that the non-SSL site uses (if it uses any). Then the user has to use the https:... address to edit the page. Good (sort of secure) would be to allow users to authenticate with digest authentication. (Use the AuthType directive.) Using digest authentication, an eavesdropper can see the stuff being uploaded, but can't upload stuff him/herself. Bad (not secure at all) would be to allow users to PUT without authentication, or to use basic authentication. That might be acceptable in an intranet, where everybody is trusted. But it wouldn't work if the same server is also visible from The Internet. I'm sorry this isn't a cookbook procedure. I have never set the whole thing up this way, though I've played with most of the pieces. But it shouldn't be too hard, if you're comfortable configuring Apache. I have no idea whether IE also has a composer module. And I ain't apologizing for that! (-: -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug Nice solution. If I were to do it this way, I would use SSL authentication since SSL is already in place. Only problem I see is they will try to use Front Page or something else and my experience with most WYSIWYG editors is badly muked-up code (that mostly works but is a mess to clean up). I have to admit I haven't used any WYSIWYG editors for quite awhile so maybe they have improved, but I don't want to encourage their use. Anyway, its great to get all these ideas. Now I just need to get something implimented. Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Probably, but I'm not too good with scripts and dynamically updating the hosts.allow is scary to me. I think I prefer an OpenSSH solution. Dave --- Linux Rocks ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldnt you just have a login/logout script that checks the users connection, and update the hosts.allow ? Jamie On Saturday 07 December 2002 09:06 pm, Bob Miller wrote: : Dave Wyatt wrote: : We have a web server and the public is not allowed to : access via FTp (a good thing). It is set up so the : web directories can be accessed from the internal : network and one or two ip addresses from the external : network (internet). : : The problem is one of the owners wants to be able to : make changes to the site from their home DSL service : (Rio) but their IP is different each time they log on. : Is there a way to authorize that person since they : have a dynamic IP but no real Domain Name? : - SNIP! --- __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [Eug-lug]Dynamic Ip
In 4 hours time the IP changed from xx.xxx.123.178 to xx.xxx.153.225. That is not the real ips of course, but that is a large range to let in. If it were just the last 255 it wouldn't be so bad. I think I still like the SFTP or SCP thing. Dave --- mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Granted their IP address changes but usually only the last part. Just a guess but couldnt you restrict access except from local lan addresses and from their ISP? then use htpasswd to let them login with name and pass. id be worried about anything that dynamically changes the hosts.allow on the fly. someone would find a way to spoof it. On Sunday 08 December 2002 12:20 am, Linux Rocks ! wrote: Couldnt you just have a login/logout script that checks the users connection, and update the hosts.allow ? Jamie __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Dave, how about password/key authentication instead of ip filtering? What I mean is ssh. I assume you're using a unix based webserver. You can use ssh for issuing commands, scp to copy files up or down and sftp for a secure ftp session. It all uses port 22 and the ssh2 protocol. For a windows client you can use putty(terminal) or pscp(remote cp) or psftp. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ here's a windows gui for windows scp: http://winscp.vse.cz/eng/ Either alternatively, or in addition, you can setup the server to allow in only RIO's dhcp pool. This is far better than allowing 2^32 addresses. You can get the address space from RIO's tech support line. This address space would then go in your firewall packet filter ruleset (ie ipchains/iptables). Finally, there are several secure ftp packages available. Here's one I just found that is GPL'd. It is a standard ftp server, but supposedly is designed securely and used by some linux sites such as: ftp\.((redhat|suse)\.com|(debian|openbsd|gnu)\.org) http://vsftpd.beasts.org/ Cory On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 09:27:33AM -0800, Dave Wyatt wrote: We have a web server and the public is not allowed to access via FTp (a good thing). It is set up so the web directories can be accessed from the internal network and one or two ip addresses from the external network (internet). The problem is one of the owners wants to be able to make changes to the site from their home DSL service (Rio) but their IP is different each time they log on. Is there a way to authorize that person since they have a dynamic IP but no real Domain Name? TIA, Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 12:28:14PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Finally, there are several secure ftp packages available. Actually, if you look at (probably the last line of) /etc/ssh/sshd_config, you may see: Subsystem sftp/path/to/sftp-server In other words, OpenSSH's sshd has a secure ftp service ready to go. The nice thing is, it uses ssh authentication, so the setup is the same as ssh. Here's one I just found that is GPL'd. It is a standard ftp server, but supposedly is designed securely and used by some linux sites such as: ftp\.((redhat|suse)\.com|(debian|openbsd|gnu)\.org) http://vsftpd.beasts.org/ Well, this is designed to be a fast and secure way to _server files to the public_. He needs a way to _upload_ securely. If he's using a *nix desktop, gFTP - http://www.gftp.org/ is a gui ftp client, slightly similar to CuteFTP, that supports OpenSSH sftp. There's also a 'sftp' command that probably comes with the ssh scp package for your distro. BTW, http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#wwwsolaris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Thanks Cory, The web server is Apache on a Red Hat 6.2 system. I thought of ssh but they will be using Windows98 and I wasn't confident of their use of the command console in Putty. If there is a GUI that will work with SFTP or SCP that may very well be the way to go. As usual, your comments are right on top of things. They just need a way to download and upload files and ssh is already in place (I just haven't told them about it. They are not Linux or command line savy). If I can set them up with a gui in windows it will be perfect. Thanks again, Dave --- Cory Petkovsek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, how about password/key authentication instead of ip filtering? What I mean is ssh. I assume you're using a unix based webserver. You can use ssh for issuing commands, scp to copy files up or down and sftp for a secure ftp session. It all uses port 22 and the ssh2 protocol. For a windows client you can use putty(terminal) or pscp(remote cp) or psftp. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ here's a windows gui for windows scp: http://winscp.vse.cz/eng/ Either alternatively, or in addition, you can setup the server to allow in only RIO's dhcp pool. This is far better than allowing 2^32 addresses. You can get the address space from RIO's tech support line. This address space would then go in your firewall packet filter ruleset (ie ipchains/iptables). Finally, there are several secure ftp packages available. Here's one I just found that is GPL'd. It is a standard ftp server, but supposedly is designed securely and used by some linux sites such as: ftp\.((redhat|suse)\.com|(debian|openbsd|gnu)\.org) http://vsftpd.beasts.org/ Cory On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 09:27:33AM -0800, Dave Wyatt wrote: We have a web server and the public is not allowed to access via FTp (a good thing). It is set up so the web directories can be accessed from the internal network and one or two ip addresses from the external network (internet). The problem is one of the owners wants to be able to make changes to the site from their home DSL service (Rio) but their IP is different each time they log on. Is there a way to authorize that person since they have a dynamic IP but no real Domain Name? TIA, Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Jacob, You are right on target also. I failed to say they will be using Windows98 and connecting to a Red Hat 6.2 system. I just need a Windows98 gui that will work with sftp (or psftp) and problem solved. I will look into CuteFTP for Windows and see if it will do the job. Thanks, Dave --- Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 12:28:14PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Finally, there are several secure ftp packages available. Actually, if you look at (probably the last line of) /etc/ssh/sshd_config, you may see: Subsystem sftp/path/to/sftp-server In other words, OpenSSH's sshd has a secure ftp service ready to go. The nice thing is, it uses ssh authentication, so the setup is the same as ssh. Here's one I just found that is GPL'd. It is a standard ftp server, but supposedly is designed securely and used by some linux sites such as: ftp\.((redhat|suse)\.com|(debian|openbsd|gnu)\.org) http://vsftpd.beasts.org/ Well, this is designed to be a fast and secure way to _server files to the public_. He needs a way to _upload_ securely. If he's using a *nix desktop, gFTP - http://www.gftp.org/ is a gui ftp client, slightly similar to CuteFTP, that supports OpenSSH sftp. There's also a 'sftp' command that probably comes with the ssh scp package for your distro. BTW, http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#wwwsolaris -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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So you have people that need to point and click but you want to do 'scp'? Why not say so in the first place? Just kidding. Go to www.ssh.com and download their client for Windows boxes. Included is a Secure FTP clients that allows dragging and dropping of files to the box. I have my girlfriend using that up in Portland to pull music off my box here. No command line stuff for her to worry about. All she needs to know is the IP address of my fileserver as well as a login name and password and she downloads away. Easier than pie. Wish I could make a pie! :) --- Dave Wyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Cory, The web server is Apache on a Red Hat 6.2 system. I thought of ssh but they will be using Windows98 and I wasn't confident of their use of the command console in Putty. If there is a GUI that will work with SFTP or SCP that may very well be the way to go. As usual, your comments are right on top of things. They just need a way to download and upload files and ssh is already in place (I just haven't told them about it. They are not Linux or command line savy). If I can set them up with a gui in windows it will be perfect. Thanks again, Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Sounds perfect. Thanks! Dave --- Mike O [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you have people that need to point and click but you want to do 'scp'? Why not say so in the first place? Just kidding. Go to www.ssh.com and download their client for Windows boxes. Included is a Secure FTP clients that allows dragging and dropping of files to the box. I have my girlfriend using that up in Portland to pull music off my box here. No command line stuff for her to worry about. All she needs to know is the IP address of my fileserver as well as a login name and password and she downloads away. Easier than pie. Wish I could make a pie! :) --- Dave Wyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Cory, The web server is Apache on a Red Hat 6.2 system. I thought of ssh but they will be using Windows98 and I wasn't confident of their use of the command console in Putty. If there is a GUI that will work with SFTP or SCP that may very well be the way to go. As usual, your comments are right on top of things. They just need a way to download and upload files and ssh is already in place (I just haven't told them about it. They are not Linux or command line savy). If I can set them up with a gui in windows it will be perfect. Thanks again, Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 16:19, Mike O wrote: than pie. Wish I could make a pie! :) Pie's pretty easy. 10 GOTO Store; 20 SELECT $flavor_pie; 30 checkout; 40 INSERT $flavor_pie OVEN; 50 SET temp 400 || $pie_temp_on_box; 60 WAIT 60; 70 Remove $flavor_pie OVEN; 80 Eat; *grins impishly* PC -- P Casper [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Dave, When looking for a client, search around for the keyword sftp. The protocol is really ssh2 running over port 22 and has little to do with the ftp protocol running on port 21. psftp is a program from the putty suite. Jacob mentioned coolftp, but I'm not sure if that is no-cost. I mentioned a windows client that is freeware but I'm not sure if that really means no-cost ware or free speech ware. Cory On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 04:09:08PM -0800, Dave Wyatt wrote: Thanks Cory, The web server is Apache on a Red Hat 6.2 system. I thought of ssh but they will be using Windows98 and I wasn't confident of their use of the command console in Putty. If there is a GUI that will work with SFTP or SCP that may very well be the way to go. As usual, your comments are right on top of things. They just need a way to download and upload files and ssh is already in place (I just haven't told them about it. They are not Linux or command line savy). If I can set them up with a gui in windows it will be perfect. Thanks again, Dave --- Cory Petkovsek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, how about password/key authentication instead of ip filtering? What I mean is ssh. I assume you're using a unix based webserver. You can use ssh for issuing commands, scp to copy files up or down and sftp for a secure ftp session. It all uses port 22 and the ssh2 protocol. For a windows client you can use putty(terminal) or pscp(remote cp) or psftp. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ here's a windows gui for windows scp: http://winscp.vse.cz/eng/ Either alternatively, or in addition, you can setup the server to allow in only RIO's dhcp pool. This is far better than allowing 2^32 addresses. You can get the address space from RIO's tech support line. This address space would then go in your firewall packet filter ruleset (ie ipchains/iptables). Finally, there are several secure ftp packages available. Here's one I just found that is GPL'd. It is a standard ftp server, but supposedly is designed securely and used by some linux sites such as: ftp\.((redhat|suse)\.com|(debian|openbsd|gnu)\.org) http://vsftpd.beasts.org/ Cory On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 09:27:33AM -0800, Dave Wyatt wrote: We have a web server and the public is not allowed to access via FTp (a good thing). It is set up so the web directories can be accessed from the internal network and one or two ip addresses from the external network (internet). The problem is one of the owners wants to be able to make changes to the site from their home DSL service (Rio) but their IP is different each time they log on. Is there a way to authorize that person since they have a dynamic IP but no real Domain Name? TIA, Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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PC, My pie didn't work out! My whole kitchen caught on fire! $ gdb make_a_pie (gdb) step 10 GOTO Store; Welcome to the Kiva... (gdb) step 20 SELECT $flavor_pie; (gdb) print $flavor_pie $1 = 12oz can of apple pie mix + Plastic wrapped crust in aluminum pan (gdb) step 30 checkout; Thanks for shopping at the Kiva! (gdb) step 40 INSERT $flavor_pie $OVEN; (gdb) step 50 SET $temp 400 || $pie_temp_on_box; (gdb) step 60 WAIT 60; Segmentation Fault (gdb) print $temp $2 = 700 (gdb) print $errstr $3 = Smoke Alarm (gdb) print $OVEN-status $4 = On Fire (gdb) print $flavor_pie $5 = Melted 12oz can + burning apple pie mix + vaporized plastic wrap +\ burnt aluminum pan (gdb) quit A debugging session is active. Do you still want to close the debugger?(y or n) y $ rm make_a_pie ;) On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 05:10:10PM -0800, P Casper wrote: On Sat, 2002-12-07 at 16:19, Mike O wrote: than pie. Wish I could make a pie! :) Pie's pretty easy. 10 GOTO Store; 20 SELECT $flavor_pie; 30 checkout; 40 INSERT $flavor_pie OVEN; 50 SET temp 400 || $pie_temp_on_box; 60 WAIT 60; 70 Remove $flavor_pie OVEN; 80 Eat; *grins impishly* PC -- P Casper [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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Dave Wyatt wrote: We have a web server and the public is not allowed to access via FTp (a good thing). It is set up so the web directories can be accessed from the internal network and one or two ip addresses from the external network (internet). The problem is one of the owners wants to be able to make changes to the site from their home DSL service (Rio) but their IP is different each time they log on. Is there a way to authorize that person since they have a dynamic IP but no real Domain Name? I read what Cory, Jake, and Mike said, and the scp solution is reasonable. But here's another idea. Mozilla has Composer, a decent WYSIWYG HTML editor. Composer has a Publish button. If you set up publishing settings to use http:... or https:... as the publishing address, then it will use an HTTP PUT command to write the file directly into the document root. From the user's POV, this is ideal. He loads a page into Composer (or creates a new page). He edits it. He hits Publish. The page is instantly live on the web. What could be better? You can set up authentication in a number of ways. Best (most secure) would be to run Apache-SSL as well as Apache. Then you can set the permissions in Apache-SSL's httpd.conf to allow certain users to PUT. Don't use the same username/passwords that the non-SSL site uses (if it uses any). Then the user has to use the https:... address to edit the page. Good (sort of secure) would be to allow users to authenticate with digest authentication. (Use the AuthType directive.) Using digest authentication, an eavesdropper can see the stuff being uploaded, but can't upload stuff him/herself. Bad (not secure at all) would be to allow users to PUT without authentication, or to use basic authentication. That might be acceptable in an intranet, where everybody is trusted. But it wouldn't work if the same server is also visible from The Internet. I'm sorry this isn't a cookbook procedure. I have never set the whole thing up this way, though I've played with most of the pieces. But it shouldn't be too hard, if you're comfortable configuring Apache. I have no idea whether IE also has a composer module. And I ain't apologizing for that! (-: -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [Eug-lug]Dynamic Ip
Couldnt you just have a login/logout script that checks the users connection, and update the hosts.allow ? Jamie On Saturday 07 December 2002 09:06 pm, Bob Miller wrote: : Dave Wyatt wrote: : We have a web server and the public is not allowed to : access via FTp (a good thing). It is set up so the : web directories can be accessed from the internal : network and one or two ip addresses from the external : network (internet). : : The problem is one of the owners wants to be able to : make changes to the site from their home DSL service : (Rio) but their IP is different each time they log on. : Is there a way to authorize that person since they : have a dynamic IP but no real Domain Name? : : I read what Cory, Jake, and Mike said, and the scp solution is : reasonable. But here's another idea. : : Mozilla has Composer, a decent WYSIWYG HTML editor. Composer has a : Publish button. If you set up publishing settings to use : http:... or https:... as the publishing address, then it will use an : HTTP PUT command to write the file directly into the document root. : : From the user's POV, this is ideal. He loads a page into Composer (or : creates a new page). He edits it. He hits Publish. The page is : instantly live on the web. What could be better? : : You can set up authentication in a number of ways. : : Best (most secure) would be to run Apache-SSL as well as Apache. : Then you can set the permissions in Apache-SSL's httpd.conf to : allow certain users to PUT. Don't use the same username/passwords : that the non-SSL site uses (if it uses any). Then the user : has to use the https:... address to edit the page. : : Good (sort of secure) would be to allow users to authenticate with : digest authentication. (Use the AuthType directive.) Using digest : authentication, an eavesdropper can see the stuff being uploaded, : but can't upload stuff him/herself. : : Bad (not secure at all) would be to allow users to PUT without : authentication, or to use basic authentication. That might be : acceptable in an intranet, where everybody is trusted. But it : wouldn't work if the same server is also visible from The Internet. : : I'm sorry this isn't a cookbook procedure. I have never set the whole : thing up this way, though I've played with most of the pieces. But it : shouldn't be too hard, if you're comfortable configuring Apache. : : I have no idea whether IE also has a composer module. And I ain't : apologizing for that! (-: -- No microsoft products were used to produce this message. EUG-LUG Mailing List: http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug ___ Eug-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
