[eug-lug]XP/smc pcmcia nic woes...

2003-12-23 Thread Linux Rocks !
So... I spent a week trying to get a pcmcia nic working in XP. it wasnt ever 
going to work... I spent a few hours, and installed win98, and Slackware, and 
both work fine (although everything but the sound worked right out of the box 
in slack, windows 98 required downloading several drivers, and am now 
spending a couple hours of updating windows). All in all, id say XP didnt 
offer anything helpful, and didnt work with a critical peiced of hardware. 
Slackware was by far the easiest to install on this laptop.

Jamie
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...very few phenomena can pull someone out of Deep Hack Mode, with two
noted exceptions: being struck by lightning, or worse, your *computer*
being struck by lightning.
-- Matt Welsh

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Re: [eug-lug]Re: Fedora

2003-12-23 Thread Rob Hudson
Does Fedora Core Yarrow use the 2.6 kernel?  If so, it might be the
switch from OSS to ALSA.  I'm struggling with that myself after I gave
2.6.0 a shot.  I have my sound card compiled as modules and loaded but
don't have sound.  I've yet to tweak the mixer.

Just an idea,
Rob

On 20031222.2004, Dirk Ouellette said ...

 I just upgraded from RH 9 to Fedora Core Yarrow and everything works
 fine except for xmms. It's there, it just won't play anything, but my
 interconnection from evolution to mozilla now works great, where before
 it didn't. I've got to get xmms working though, cause I use it a lot.
 Dirk
 
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Re: [eug-lug]Re: Fedora

2003-12-23 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:06:11PM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote:
 Does Fedora Core Yarrow use the 2.6 kernel?  If so, it might be the
 switch from OSS to ALSA.  I'm struggling with that myself after I gave
 2.6.0 a shot.  I have my sound card compiled as modules and loaded but
 don't have sound.  I've yet to tweak the mixer.

According to ALSA docs, All mixer channels are muted by default.
You must use a native or OSS mixer program to unmute appropriate
channels (for example a mixer from the alsa-utils package).

Once you have the mixer levels set to your preference, you can
use 'alsactl store' to save the settings (do it as root).  Then
you can use 'alsactl restore' to set the mixer to those levels.
This is probably done by your distro's alsasound init file ...
store on shutdown and restore on boot.

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[eug-lug]Re: Fedora

2003-12-23 Thread Dirk Ouellette
I rpm -Uvh the http://havardk.xmms.org/dist/xmms-1.2.7-rh8-rh9-rpm/ and
xmms works fine. Now I need to get grip to override the cd player when I
want to rip a cd just like it did with RH 9. Reinstalling Fedora's grip
didn't work.
Dirk

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Re: [eug-lug]Re: Fedora

2003-12-23 Thread Ben Barrett
Dirk, I remember you were interested in playing CD's -- and wondering if
this box has done it before?  If it is a new one, or especially a self-built
one, you might want to make sure the audio cable is connected between the
internal CD drive and the sound card... that is, *if* you want to play CD's
you pop in there, without ripping them first.  There is a way to play CD's
from the bitstream off the disc (using the OS and CPU), but when you play
direct there is no CPU involved AFAIK, except for player and mixer controls.

best of luck,

   Ben

PS - please keep us updated with any fedora issues you come across, I'm
interested in what your experience with it is.


On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:08:54 -0800
Dirk Ouellette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| I rpm -Uvh the http://havardk.xmms.org/dist/xmms-1.2.7-rh8-rh9-rpm/ and
| xmms works fine. Now I need to get grip to override the cd player when I
| want to rip a cd just like it did with RH 9. Reinstalling Fedora's grip
| didn't work.
| Dirk
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Re: [eug-lug]USB printer help please

2003-12-23 Thread Mr O
KBob, you say you're using Gentoo with those results. I seem to
be missing something. lsusb gives me cannot open
/proc/bus/usb, No such file or directory (2). Something not in
my kernel that should be? 




--- Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 1. lsusb shows you the devices that are attached.  Make sure
it shows your printer.  Mine prints this.
 
 jogger-egg ~ lsusb
 Bus 004 Device 001: ID :  
 Bus 003 Device 001: ID :  
 Bus 002 Device 001: ID :  
 Bus 001 Device 001: ID :  
 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04a9:1067 Canon, Inc. 
 
 That last line is my printer.  The other four lines are empty
 USB
 jacks.
 
 2. Does /dev/usblp0 exist?  Depending on distribution and
 kernel
version, usb devices can have many names.  On my box
 (gentoo), it's
called /dev/usb/lp0, and here's what it looks like.
 
 jogger-egg ~ ls -l /dev/usb/lp0
 crw-rw1 root root 180,   0 Dec 31  1969
 /dev/usb/lp0
 
 3. (If lsusb doesn't show your printer) do you have the right
kernel modules installed?  You might need uhci, ohci,
 usbcore,
or printer.


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Re: [eug-lug]USB printer help please

2003-12-23 Thread Bob Miller
Mr O wrote:

 KBob, you say you're using Gentoo with those results. I seem to
 be missing something. lsusb gives me cannot open
 /proc/bus/usb, No such file or directory (2). Something not in
 my kernel that should be? 

jogger-egg ~ grep usb /proc/filesystems
nodev   usbdevfs
nodev   usbfs
jogger-egg ~ grep usb /proc/mounts 
none /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0

You also have to ensure that /etc/init.d/localmount is run at boot
time.  Since a whole bunch of services depend on it, that's probably
not an issue.

jogger-egg ~ grep localmount /etc/runlevels/default/*
/etc/runlevels/default/acpid:   need localmount
/etc/runlevels/default/apmd:need localmount
/etc/runlevels/default/hdparm:  need localmount
/etc/runlevels/default/vcron:   need clock localmount logger

Most likely, you need to set CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS in your kernel.

 CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS:
 
 If you say Y here (and to /proc file system support in the File
 systems section, above), you will get a file /proc/bus/usb/devices
 which lists the devices currently connected to your USB bus or
 busses, a file /proc/bus/usb/drivers which lists the USB kernel
 client drivers currently loaded, and for every connected device a
 file named  /proc/bus/usb/xxx/yyy, where xxx is the bus number and
 yyy the device number; the latter files can be used by user space
 programs to talk directly to the device. These files are virtual,
 meaning they are generated on the fly and not stored on the hard
 drive.
 
 You may need to mount the usbdevfs file system to see the files, use
  mount -t usbdevfs none /proc/bus/usb
 
 For the format of the various /proc/bus/usb/ files, please read
 Documentation/usb/proc_usb_info.txt.
 
 Please note that this code is completely unrelated to devfs, the
 /dev file system support.
 
 Most users want to say Y here.

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Re: [eug-lug]Re: PDA's

2003-12-23 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 07:58:25PM -0800, Dirk Ouellette wrote:
 I told my wife to get me this one from BestBuy as the 2 rebates add up
 to $50 and that leaves it well within her price range at $84. It uses
 Palm OS 4.1 software so I assumed it would work well. Thanks for all
 advice.

The one minor disadvantage of the Clie's is that they expand with memory
sticks rather than SD/MMC.  You probably won't be adding Bluetooth or WiFi
in the memory slot with the Clie.  This kinda limits the device to syncing
with your PC and serving the intended purposes.  Wireless networks add a
whole lot of future possibilities which nobody at Palm dreamed anyone
might do with the thing (similar to the incredibly cool if pointless hack
to turn a Palm into a universal IR remote..)  This may not be a factor for
you though, given that pretty much all of the USB memory card readers are
now quite inexpensive and nearly all of them work flawlessly in Linux.  

(It's odd, Bluetooth MMC is very cheap but WiFi MMC is currently woefully
expensive.  WiFi CF is relatively cheap, but Bluetooth CF is as expensive
as WiFi is in MMC format!  Palms use SD/MMC, PocketPCs use CF.)


The major disadvantage that applies only to me is that Sony uses a
different font than Palm does, and Sony's font lacks the boldness which
makes the tiny Palm font so readable for me.

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[eug-lug]Bluetooth (was: PDA's)

2003-12-23 Thread Bob Miller
T. Joseph Carter wrote:

 The one minor disadvantage of the Clie's is that they expand with memory
 sticks rather than SD/MMC.  You probably won't be adding Bluetooth or WiFi
 in the memory slot with the Clie.

Is anyone here using Bluetooth with Linux?  I don't have any BT
devices (heck, I'm barely using WiFi) so I don't have any experience.

How well does it work?

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[eug-lug]Clinical Update -- No Meeting Christmas Day

2003-12-23 Thread Larry Price
As mentioned there will NOT be a EUGLUG Clinic on December 24th
as the expectation is that you will all be home programming your little 
hearts out
and trying to ignore the steaming heaps of tempting food and holiday 
cheer

On New Year's day (January 1 2004) there will be a clinic, and it will 
start early (4pm)

There will be some fiddling with the HP boxen (OS install, and 
experimence w/ samba)

and an opportunity to show off your new gear...;-)

See You all NEXT YEAR.(merry solstice)



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[eug-lug]January PLUG Meeting is being moved to Jan 8, 2004

2003-12-23 Thread David Mandel

Happy Holidays,

Just want to let people know what is happening with PLUG next month.
The first Thursday of Jan is New Years Day which is a holiday.
Hence, we are trying to schedule the meeting for the second Thursday of
the month.  That will be Jan 8, 2004.  With luck we will have Chris
Jantzen give a presentation on User Mode Linux.

Also, there could be a room change.  PSU only scheduled our meetings
thru December 2003.  Andy Fraser is working on scheduling us for next
year and everything looks good at this point - but I can't promise where
we will be for sure for a few days.  PSU is working on the schedule.


  Sincerely,
  David Mandel
  Chief Activist
  Portland Linux/Unix Group
  560 SE Alexander
  Corvallis, Oregon 97333
  (541) 684-4644 at work
  (541) 730-5285 cell

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