[EVDL] EVLN: £26k VW e-Golf ubiquitous with a difference
This nippy little number is just the thing for city living http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/road-tests/vw-egolf-motoring-review-this-nippy-little-number-is-just-the-thing-for-city-living-9724981.html VW e-Golf, motoring review: This nippy little number is just the thing for city living Jamie Merrill 10 September 2014 [image http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9724955.ece/alternates/w620/pg-40-wheels.jpg ] The VW Golf may be ubiquitous, but this is a Golf with a difference: it's the first ever model to do away completely with the internal combustion engine. That's right, VW has dived headfirst into the booming electric car market. This isn't just any electric car, though. It offers up 113bhp to the front wheels, making it a nippy number, which, aside from a reduced travelling range, is practically identical to a normal Golf in every regard. It will set you back £25,845 (including a £5,000 Government subsidy) and will manage to hit 87mph flat out if you absolutely need to take it to a German Autobahn for speed testing. Of course, with a claimed range of 118 miles (I got nearer 100 miles), getting to the continent could be tricky, and hitting the top speed will batter the range, but that misses the point. As a city runaround, this car is just as practical as a supermini. For the sake of fairness I should confess to a fondness for electric cars. In London, where I live and am lucky enough (unlike many) to have a spot at my flat to charge one, they make some sense. For example, I can park it in the car park near my office at a reduced fee, and don't pay the daily congestion charge. I also feel smug that I'm not fouling the capital's already disgusting air like other drivers. The problem is that I'm not sure how many people there are in my position with a desire to buy one – when not testing electric cars, I happily take the Tube or cycle to work. Then there's the price, which is £5k more than the standard (fairly clean) petrol model. Still, something about the e-Golf suggests that it will find a market. Driving across south London on a cat-ferrying mission (the e-Golf ride is smooth, but not smooth enough to prevent feline vomiting), I was hailed down at some traffic lights by a young chap in a tracksuit. He was driving a rude boy Golf with alloys and go-faster stripes. He gesticulated wildly for me to bring my window down, pointed at the subtle e-Golf badge and breathlessly asked me what will it do. I replied that it would, if driven carefully, do about 100 miles from an overnight charge. He seemed impressed. Normally, speed-lovers only flag me down if I'm driving something fast. Something with a spoiler, not a charging socket. It looks like that's changing. [© independent.co.uk] For EVLN posts use: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=204476 http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=search_pagenode=413529query=evlnsort=date http://www.pddnet.com/news/2014/09/nissan-sponsers-national-drive-electric-week Nissan Sponsers 'National Drive Electric Week' http://online.wsj.com/articles/group-3-d-prints-battery-powered-car-1410210789 Maker 'Prints' Drivable Vehicle ... http://live.wsj.com/video/3d-printed-electric-car-being-built-in-chicago/1F029833-4E2C-49C2-8B9C-4791824249E9.html 3D-Printed Electric Car Being Built in Chicago http://green.autoblog.com/2014/09/03/electric-terry-dominates-vetter-fuel-economy-challenge/ Electric Terry dominates Vetter Fuel Economy Challenge http://www.dailybreeze.com/environment-and-nature/20140905/hermosa-beach-celebrates-opening-of-first-fast-charging-station-for-electric-vehicles NRG L32 EVSE @Hermosa Beach, CA ... http://tbrnews.com/news/hermosa_beach/hermosa-beach-welcomes-fastest-electric-vehicle-charging-station/article_bff03d40-3534-11e4-ada6-001a4bcf887a.html + EVLN: 6 Reasons Why 500e EV Beats The Abarth ice {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-26k-VW-e-Golf-ubiquitous-with-a-difference-tp4671606.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Take advantage of sweet EV deals Automakers seek credits to sell ice
Automakers sell or lease at a discount to meet their carbon quota [I am posting this at a historical point on the EV timeline] Previously I had seen one of the well made Fiat 500e TV ads with a trailer that stated a SF area local dealer was offering 500e EV purchase or lease at quite a low cost. I contacted them visa their website's emailing method to gather more information. Wow, it only took a month for them to get back to me about the 500e (meanwhile, I had been put on their ad-spam distribution list lots-o-ice ads via email). Obviously, using email to contact some dealerships specifically about their plugin does not work if they are telephone (quick-sale) based. Below is their response, and yes it is clearly some self-promotion (advertising). But notice all the links to aid in swaying the potential buyer to go Electric. Wonder why they did not include plugshare.com ? Perhaps the sales types selling their EVs are regular EV drivers? Then again, maybe this person is, because I am finding more and more local plugin drivers have never heard of plugshare nor its app. Those that haven't usually only use the EVSE network's website / app. Note, their wording below that they want to 'see' me. Not hear from me (email or telephone). They want to be able to sway me in person (to make the sale). Fiat isn't the only brand that has discounted pricing on EVs (and I am not saying this dealer is the one to buy from - shop around for the best deal). But below is an example I am posting to document for the evdl archive to note this point in time. If you know of 'good-deal' price that is happening right-now, I ask that you post what you know (how-much and where). Researcher looking back through time, will see the large difference between before when the media was (is) paid to kill EVs, to today when they and dealers are pushing for EV sales. It will be also interesting to see what changes will occur over time after the up-n-coming national election (possible change in EV policies, same as with previous administration changes, etc.). {brucedp.150m.com} - Fiat 500e Available In Stock - Hendrik / Fiat of Burlingame Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:08 AM Thank you for your interest in the FIAT 500e. I do have the vehicle available and is ready to be delivered. NO WAITING LIST! And if you are flexible with the exterior color, interior color and options (special color: electric orange and pearl white, steam interior color, sport package and sun roof). You can drive this vehicle home today for as little as $99/mo, $1999 down (tax, title and license extra) for a 24 months lease or $199/mo, $999 down (tax, title and license extra) for a 36 months lease (on approved credit, in stock vehicle only). Plus $2500 California State rebate is eligible for lease or purchase and $7500 Federal tax rebate is eligible for purchase only: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxevb.shtml https://energycenter.org/ Plus HOV sticker is also eligible for Fiat 500e: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/decal.htm Plus special rate from PGE: http://www.pge.com/pev/ Plus more charging station all over the San Francisco and Bay area: http://www.sfenvironment.org/sites/default/files/fliers/files/sfe_tr_public_evses_in_san_francisco.pdf http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/ For more information about our inventory, please visit our website at: http://www.fiatusaofburlingame.com/index.htm If you want to schedule a test drive, please contact me at 415.350.0321 or 650.373.4362 or email me at hend...@fiatofburlingame.com. Thank you so much and looking forward to seeing you, Hendrik Nursalim Fiat Specialist Cell/text - 415.350.0321 Office - 650.373.4362 Fax - 650.340.6938 Parts Service - 650.558.5656 hendrik @fiatofburlingame.com - -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Take-advantage-of-sweet-EV-deals-Automakers-seek-credits-to-sell-ice-tp4671608.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 4 to 12 Cell Lithium BMS
Maybe I'm missing something here, but for the golf cars, doesn't the vehicle have some kind of master on-off ignition switch? It would be pretty unusual not to. Couldn't you connect that to a relay with its NO contacts in series with the contactor coil, so the contactor would always be open when the ignition or key switch is off, even if the BMS wanted it on? The problem seems different for a portable battery supply. There I guess I'd probably look for a different BMS, one that doesn't insist on controlling the main contactor. But I am not a lithium expert. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost and etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: £26k VW e-Golf ubiquitous with a difference
On 17 Sep 2014 at 0:18, brucedp5 via EV wrote: I also feel smug that I'm not fouling the capital's already disgusting air like other drivers. Anyone else here feel smug about this? With every article like this that I read, I lose more respect for today's journalists. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost and etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 4 to 12 Cell Lithium BMS
On 09/16/2014 09:24 PM, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: I have a Mini BMS system also. I suspect the contractor might be for charging circuitry. I have the same issues with an SSR in my system. The Mini BMS is set up to terminate charging if necessary when a cell is over voltage and the ignition system is off. It does this by turning off the SSR or contactor on the AC line to the charger when it detects a cell alert with the ignition off. When you turn on the ignition system, it re-arms the contactor back to on, to prepare for the next charge cycle. The problem is that the contactor stays on all the time the vehicle is parked. On my car, it takes about 2 weeks to drain the auxiliary battery. I solve this by pulling the fuse to the EV control circuits which includes power to the SSR. I've wondered if there is a better way too. My Hyundai has been using an EVPower BMS controller all it's life. EVPower cell modules have been replaced witn miniBMS modules. The EVPower controller is a complete ready to use unit while the miniBMS head board is just a starting point. The EVPower controller contains a pack to 12v DC-DC which supplies a 20 amp SCR to switch charger input current. To reduce demand on your starting battery, you might consider a similar set up. The universal voltage wall warts are VERY versatile. They operate on something like 85-250 volts, both AC and DC. You can control your SCR off of the pack with the wall wart between. The wall wart vampire load is much less significant to your traction pack than to your starting battery. I found some ~13.5v wall warts that I use to trickle charge starting batteries from traction packs. As a backup to my regular DC-DCs. Perhaps also of interest: About three years ago I was dealing with how to control AC current to my 10kw charger (EMW). The 20amp SCR mentioned above wouldn't handle that current. I tried a 40 amp SCR but it was getting too hot. AND SCRs apparently fail on. Certainly a potential disaster. I first had Steve add in a heavy duty 240vac relay with a 120vac coil. That worked well as long as I charged only at 240vac and not through a J1772. This was discussed at length here at that time. I messed around a lot with Lee Hart's idea of using a light bulb to get about the right voltage to the coil but I never found the right light bulb. I finally used the SCR (in the EVPower BMS controller) to switch AC current, either 120 or 240, to some 12v wall warts. The wall warts now supply heavy duty relays with 12vdc coils. That setup has worked well for about three years switching about 12kw of charging. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 4 to 12 Cell Lithium BMS
Yes I would agree. At our plant sites, we use electric golf carts for all of our construction projects. They all had a key switch to power up, and a rocker switch for forward and reverse. Thanks; Dennis Elsberry, MO http://www.evalbum.com/1366 http://evalbum.com/3715 -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 3:36 AM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] 4 to 12 Cell Lithium BMS Maybe I'm missing something here, but for the golf cars, doesn't the vehicle have some kind of master on-off ignition switch? It would be pretty unusual not to. Couldn't you connect that to a relay with its NO contacts in series with the contactor coil, so the contactor would always be open when the ignition or key switch is off, even if the BMS wanted it on? The problem seems different for a portable battery supply. There I guess I'd probably look for a different BMS, one that doesn't insist on controlling the main contactor. But I am not a lithium expert. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to evpost and etpost addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 4 to 12 Cell Lithium BMS
. AND SCRs apparently fail on. Certainly a potential disaster. I first had Steve add in a heavy duty 240vac relay with a 120vac coil. That worked well as long as I charged only at 240vac and not through a J1772. This was discussed at length here at that time. I messed around a lot with Lee Hart's idea of using a light bulb to get about the right voltage to the coil but I never found the right light bulb. I finally used the SCR (in the EVPower BMS controller) to switch AC current, either 120 or 240, to some 12v wall warts. The wall warts now supply heavy duty relays with 12vdc coils. That setup has worked well for about three years switching about 12kw of charging. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usubhttp://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.orghttp://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRAhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usubhttp://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.orghttp://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRAhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140917/6f6c5d65/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 4 to 12 Cell Lithium BMS
One of my problems with the setup that I have is that the Contactor is for both driving and Battery Charging, so, the Contactor ends up being ON almost all of the time. The Mini BMS Modules that are on these batteries, work by breaking a loop circuit. Any time the voltage is above 3.6V or below 2.75V they will open their control circuit and all the BMS' control loops are in one big series string, so that any cell not being happy will cause the contactor to turn OFF, which will turn off the charger or the load. As you can see with this set up, when charging or driving, we have the same contactor sipping power. One solution of course, would be to have the charging circuit separate from the Load Circuit and I could even have the foot peddle engage and disengage the main contactor, but I still have to deal with charging and since the chargers are not on board, I have to deal with switching the DC input current. I have some transistors ( fets) that I may play with as Cor van de Water suggested for the charger. The head board that comes with this set up seems to be changing with each new revision. I have not had a lot of luck figureing out from the web site, all the little details and how to make a contactor for charging and a contactor for driving be powered from the same board. thanks for all your input. -- Steve Clunn Merging the best of the past with the best of the future. www.Greenshedconversions.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140917/26eb5325/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] 4 to 12 Cell Lithium BMS
Steve Clunn via EV wrote: One of my problems with the setup that I have is that the Contactor is for both driving and Battery Charging, so, the Contactor ends up being ON almost all of the time. One solution of course, would be to have the charging circuit separate from the Load Circuit and I could even have the foot peddle engage and disengage the main contactor That's a good general case solution for problems while driving. This will also be a big high-current contactor. It will have a relatively high coil current; but it's only on for a relatively short time, and its power is a tiny fraction of the load compared to driving the EV traction motor. but I still have to deal with charging The contactor needed to break the DC charging circuit is far smaller, since your charging current is likely to be much lower. That means its coil current will be far smaller. It's easy to find a relay with 30-amp contacts whose coil draws less than a watt. That's 12v at 83ma, or 36v at 27ma. Maybe that's low enough not to worry about? You can also depend on the relay being held on with only 1/4th its rated coil voltage and current. Once pulled in, a 12v relay will stay on at 3v. So put an RC slugger in series with the coil. It gets full voltage at turn-on, when the capacitor is discharged. Then the capacitor charges, and the resistor limits the current to 14th of its normal value to hold it in. For a 1 watt coil, that's 21ma at 12v, or 7ma at 36v. Is that low enough? since the chargers are not on board, I have to deal with switching the DC input current. That's not really so bad. The charger almost certainly won't have filter capacitors, so the charging current isn't DC, it's pulsating AC. Relays with AC-rated contacts are fine, because the current goes to zero 120 times a second, just like on AC. What kind of charger are you using? Will it care if you open a contactor to disconnect its DC output while charging? Most chargers won't care, but a few (like the Manzanita PFC chargers) can be damaged if you open their DC output while they are operating. Some chargers will even shut themselves down if there is no connection to their output. This is good with an offboard charger, since it automatically turns off the AC without you needing a separate connection to break AC power into the charger. Do you always charge from a GFCI-protected outlet? If so, one way to shut down AC to the charger without a direct connection is to have your BMS generate a 5ma ground fault to shut it down. A *really* tiny relay or optocoupler is sufficient to do this. The relay could be held on by just 1ma from the batteries. When the BMS turns it off, the relay drops out, so its normally-closed contact closes. This connects a resistor from pack to chassis that draws 5-10ma. The GFCI sees the ground fault, and shuts off AC to the charger. :-) I have some transistors ( fets) that I may play with as Cor van de Water suggested for the charger. You could indeed build a solid state relay with series MOSFETs. But that might be more of an engineering challenge than you'd like. There are a lot of subtleties to get it right, so it's not killed by static or AC line transients. -- If you would not be forgotten When your body's dead and rotten Then write of great deeds worth the reading Or do these great deeds, worth repeating. -- Ben Franklin, from Poor Richard's Almanac -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?
Are you sure the ends are aluminium? Without the screw terminals they are connected by nickel strips spot welded to the ends, not sure you can spot weld nickel to aluminium. I think they are plated steel. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of via EV Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2014 3:34 p.m. To: ev@lists.evdl.org Subject: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways? I'm building up some headway packs. My understanding is they have aluminum end caps in the bare state, but when you get them with screw terminals the screw terminals are steel and sit on the aluminum. Might this make it better to wire them together with Aluminum plates rather than Copper plates? Does solder dipping the plate help? Thanks for the advice. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Reduced range with Heater on.
Next time I hear someone blasting the reduced range of an EV with the heat on, I want to come back with something like this: “What? The heater in your gas guzzler is reducing your gasoline range by over 70%. And not only that, you can’t even turn all that wasted heat off! All you can select to do is either vent the heat into the cabin in the winter, or blow it under the car all the rest of the time throwing away 70% of the energy you bought at the pump. At least an EV can turn off heater energy when not needed.” Is there a better way to say it? Bob, WB4APR -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140917/276f7daa/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Reduced range with Heater on.
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: “What? The heater in your gas guzzler is reducing your gasoline range by over 70%. And not only that, you can’t even turn all that wasted heat off! All you can select to do is either vent the heat into the cabin in the winter, or blow it under the car all the rest of the time throwing away 70% of the energy you bought at the pump. At least an EV can turn off heater energy when not needed.” Oohh, I like it! That's a great way to put it. (evil grin) -- If you would not be forgotten When your body's dead and rotten Then write of great deeds worth the reading Or do these great deeds, worth repeating. -- Ben Franklin, from Poor Richard's Almanac -- Lee Hart's EV projects are at http://www.sunrise-ev.com/LeesEVs.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?
How about a photo or spec sheet to look at? You say Headway, do they only make on sized and form of cell? On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:34 PM, via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I'm building up some headway packs. My understanding is they have aluminum end caps in the bare state, but when you get them with screw terminals the screw terminals are steel and sit on the aluminum. Might this make it better to wire them together with Aluminum plates rather than Copper plates? Does solder dipping the plate help? Thanks for the advice. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, The summer day. To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk michael.e.r...@gmail.com michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140917/385442ef/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Thanks
Many thanks to those of who offered help with my problem, the loose connections seems to have cleared up the problem! Again thank you all. Sam -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140917/37328da4/attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways?
I have both types, just checked them, no sign of aluminium anywhere -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Michael Ross via EV Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2014 11:43 a.m. To: evdragra...@email.com; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dissimilar metals on Headyways? How about a photo or spec sheet to look at? You say Headway, do they only make on sized and form of cell? On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 11:34 PM, via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I'm building up some headway packs. My understanding is they have aluminum end caps in the bare state, but when you get them with screw terminals the screw terminals are steel and sit on the aluminum. Might this make it better to wire them together with Aluminum plates rather than Copper plates? Does solder dipping the plate help? Thanks for the advice. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, The summer day. To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk michael.e.r...@gmail.com michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140917/385442ef /attachment.htm ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)