Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[Bruno Marchal]

> On 9 Mar 2021, at 18:33, John Clark  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:47 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
> mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> > I would say that if madness is a disease that causes ones to distrust the 
> > vocalizations of the dem establishment, sure, fine. The once democratic 
> > party looks now to be an increasingly poor imitation of the kind of setup 
> > in the People's Republic of China.
> 
> The Republican party is far more sympathetic to totalitarian governments than 
> the Democrats are, just look at how Trump literally "fell in love" with North 
> Korean murderer and torturer Kim Jong-un.


I can’t agree more. Trump is the first president to show complete disinterest 
in the constitution and rules of law. He is a con-man escaping forward. He is 
almost vindictively against democracy. He is as much extreme-leftist than 
extreme-rightist, and is above all an enemy of all democracies. He seems unable 
to grasp the difference between an opposition party and an enemy. He tried to 
use dictators as ally. I am still astonish that anyone can vote for him, as his 
lies are gross and obvious. I think that those who vote for him have a serious 
problem in education. He betrayed the republican values, and the American 
values, and all democratic values. He does nor just love Kim-Young-Un, he 
envies him, literally.

How could anyone vote for someone unable to show his taxes is a mystery for me. 
Even bandits hates liars at the top…

Bruno


> 
> > Team dem loves censorship,
> 
> That's why team Democrat wants to "open up the libel laws" and make them 
> federal so that a sitting president could sue a newspaper if the newspaper 
> says something negative about the president that he doesn't like… Oh wait… 
> that's not team Democrat that's team Republic. 
> 
> > Based of recent democrat rulings, let's use natural gas prices and supply 
> > (fracking) as a real-world test of how this impacts the economy? Nat gas 
> > turbines supply about 38% of the electrical supply to the US. Much has been 
> > in the service of replacing coal fired plants, and thus, shuttering those. 
> > Now what happens to price and supplies for gas turbines when supplies 
> > decrease because of policy-induced shortages?
> 
> I admit most environmentalists are not serious people and the solutions they 
> propose are not realistic, but Joe Biden is not one of those environmental 
> nutcases, he does not propose fracking be eliminated, and the reason coal 
> burning plants have been largely shut down is not because of environmental 
> issues but simply because coal plants are more expensive to operate than 
> natural gas plants now that natural gas has become so cheap thanks to 
> fracking. And Biden is the most pro-nuclear power president we've had in 50 
> years, a generous part of his $2 trillion climate change plan is earmarked 
> for nuclear power, particularly small modular reactors, and he frequently 
> mentions the fact that nuclear power is a zero carbon technology, and it has 
> the best safety record of any energy source.  
> 
>  
> > If we experience rolling blackouts and brownouts, the rabble, even dem 
> > rabble will turn and blame their 'leadership,'
> 
> If Biden screws up the economy then he should be blamed, but so far at least 
> I see no evidence that he is doing that.  
>  
> > what's more important, saving the earth or feeding your family? 
> 
> That's a very odd question. Is the important thing for you that when the 
> Earth comes to an end and your family faces oblivion at least they will do so 
> with a full stomach?
> 
> .
> John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> 
> 
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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

On pure technology, and I mean engineering, nuclear fission has yet to fully 
prove itself, because of high price$ and safety, or what was Chernobyl, 
Fukushima, and 3Mile Island for? I am still open to improved design physics and 
chemistry to improve all that. For energy, this Trumpkin tentatively endorses 
perovskite solar cells developed by oxford solar in the UK, connected to say, 
Tesla Power walls, or some other improved battery. 

It's cheaper and faster, and as Biden has declared  no fracking on public 
lands. Watch gas prices soar, and supplies shrink because the dem politicians 
declare saving the earth above the American people. I would have gotten a 
program for  electric baseboard heating and cooling up and running before I 
switched off the fracking!  

For crop growing I tentatively endorse vertical farming along with cellular 
meat production, unless there is a big problem with either? This is a partial 
fix against human and animal extinction. But then you know how is Orange nazis 
are- completely irrational!
On Tuesday, March 9, 2021 John Clark  wrote:

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:47 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:


> I would say that if madness is a disease that causes ones to distrust the 
> vocalizations of the dem establishment, sure, fine. The once democratic party 
> looks now to be an increasingly poor imitation of the kind of setup in the 
> People's Republic of China.

The Republican party is far more sympathetic to totalitarian governments than 
the Democrats are, just look at how Trump literally "fell in love" with North 
Korean murderer and torturer Kim Jong-un. 

> Team dem loves censorship,

That's why team Democrat wants to "open up the libel laws" and make them 
federal so that a sitting president could sue a newspaper if the newspaper says 
something negative about the president that he doesn't like… Oh wait… that's 
not team Democrat that's team Republic. 

> Based of recent democrat rulings, let's use natural gas prices and supply 
> (fracking) as a real-world test of how this impacts the economy? Nat gas 
> turbines supply about 38% of the electrical supply to the US. Much has been 
> in the service of replacing coal fired plants, and thus, shuttering those. 
> Now what happens to price and supplies for gas turbines when supplies 
> decrease because of policy-induced shortages?

I admit most environmentalists are not serious people and the solutions they 
propose are not realistic, but Joe Biden is not one of those environmental 
nutcases, he does not propose fracking be eliminated, and the reason coal 
burning plants have been largely shut down is not because of environmental 
issues but simply because coal plants are more expensive to operate than 
natural gas plants now that natural gas has become so cheap thanks to fracking. 
And Biden is the most pro-nuclear power president we've had in 50 years, a 
generous part of his $2 trillion climate change plan is earmarked for nuclear 
power, particularly small modular reactors, and he frequently mentions the fact 
that nuclear power is a zero carbon technology, and it has the best safety 
record of any energy source.  
 
> If we experience rolling blackouts and brownouts, the rabble, even dem rabble 
> will turn and blame their 'leadership,'

If Biden screws up the economy then he should be blamed, but so far at least I 
see no evidence that he is doing that.   
> what's more important, saving the earth or feeding your family? 

That's a very odd question. Is the important thing for you that when the Earth 
comes to an end and your family faces oblivion at least they will do so with a 
full stomach?
.John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis


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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Oh it didn't used to be proto-Soviet, or more properly, proto-Xi in nature 
because I used to vote for them incessantly during national and general 
elections. Surely, BLM & Antifa at the leadership level is pro-soviet in 
thought and deed. 
https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/revolutionary-communist-party-head-vote-biden
Thus, if even the above sources are partially true, the Party endorses the 
goals and methods of a soviet model of control. If the large corporations throw 
in with these groups, and they have, if for nothing else than protection money, 
then these contribute to the ideology. The Party is thus, tainted, so I am out. 
Keep your eye upon the economy, prices. and shortages of goods, jobs, and fuel 
availability.. If things worsen terribly, the once United States is headed for 
a split, de facto, if for nothing else, because what, as a people do we now 
have in common? 
-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Tue, Mar 9, 2021 10:46 am
Subject: Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 7:47:15 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

I would say that if madness is a disease that causes ones to distrust the 
vocalizations of the dem establishment, sure, fine. The once democratic party 
looks now to be an increasingly poor imitation of the kind of setup in the 
People's Republic of China. Team dem loves censorship,they want to control what 
people say, and it all gets funded (The CP) by oligarchs. I will just 
reiterate, that if the dems screw up the economy post-Covid, there will be a 
ferocious public reaction. 

When people tell me the Democratic Party is communist they are really telling 
me they have no clue as to what communism or Marxism are. The conspiracy 
narratives about communism is just a latter day form of McCarthyism that is 
promoted by QAnon and t'Rumpism. It is a case of Dumb White Trash America on 
parade. 
LC 

Based of recent democrat rulings, let's use natural gas prices and supply 
(fracking) as a real-world test of how this impacts the economy? Nat gas 
turbines supply about 38% of the electrical supply to the US. Much has been in 
the service of replacing coal fired plants, and thus, shuttering those. Now 
what happens to price and supplies for gas turbines when supplies decrease 
because of policy-induced shortages? It's not like there is solar and wind 
ready to replace the fracked gas that supplied electrical power. A state like 
Massachusetts or New York, could have thus prepared to do this for a cleaner, 
greener, world. So, why haven't they? They could have been the true 
revolutionaries under the rule of Orange Man, defying his earth-unfriendly 
energy policies. So where's my solar and wind power along with my flying car?
If we experience rolling blackouts and brownouts, the rabble, even dem rabble 
will turn and blame their 'leadership,' because what's more important, saving 
the earth or feeding your family? Consider this a test.


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2021 8:32 am
Subject: Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:03:46 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

Yeah I found it interesting that the founder of the proud boys a non-white guy 
was ID or outed as an FBI informant in certain drug cases some years back so I 
was always cautious of this so-called group because they fight they fought the 
antifa people but for what reason? I had wondered if one or more than them were 
FBI informants and according to one attorney general or former assistant 
attorney general as I recall the dude in question was indeed an FBI informant. 
Back to the original topic the paper by the Royal society asserts, and the good 
physicists who posted this study, holds that people who hold views different 
from what I would term the Democratic socialist norm, that is so prevalent 
nowadays and academia, is indeed mentally defective.That's somehow their 
ability to observe the world and process information is in some fashion 
disenhanced. Like calling those who the Royal society disagrees with, retarded. 
That was my takeaway from the Royal society article provided. It also reminds 
me of the 1939 Nazi psychiatrist process called teagarden 4 or teer garden for 
that was utilized to get rid of the retarded, depressed people, political 
opponents. It seems to me like this methodology is now again being proposed if 
so we'll get to see who is the weekend victim, and who in actuality is not?On 
Friday, February 26, 2021 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
 wrote:


On 2/26/2021 1:49 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
>
> We don't live in a free country, but a land that is increasingly 
> menaced by an oligarchy funding democratic socialist (soviet) causes.
>



This little bit and other things give me ample evidence that Spudboy is a 

Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[John Clark]

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:47 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

*> I would say that if madness is a disease that causes ones to distrust
> the vocalizations of the dem establishment, sure, fine. The once democratic
> party looks now to be an increasingly poor imitation of the kind of setup
> in the People's Republic of China.*
>

The Republican party is far more sympathetic to totalitarian governments than
the Democrats are, just look at how Trump literally "fell in love" with
North Korean murderer and torturer Kim Jong-un.

> *Team dem loves censorship,*
>

That's why team Democrat wants to "open up the libel laws" and make them
federal so that a sitting president could sue a newspaper if the newspaper
says something negative about the president that he doesn't like… Oh wait…
that's not team Democrat that's team Republic.

*> Based of recent democrat rulings, let's use natural gas prices and
> supply (fracking) as a real-world test of how this impacts the economy? Nat
> gas turbines supply about 38% of the electrical supply to the US. Much has
> been in the service of replacing coal fired plants, and thus, shuttering
> those. Now what happens to price and supplies for gas turbines when
> supplies decrease because of policy-induced shortages?*
>

I admit most environmentalists are not serious people and the solutions
they propose are not realistic, but Joe Biden is not one of those environmental
nutcases, he does not propose fracking be eliminated, and the reason
coal burning
plants have been largely shut down is not because of environmental issues
but simply because coal plants are more expensive to operate than natural
gas plants now that natural gas has become so cheap thanks to fracking. And
Biden is the most pro-nuclear power president we've had in 50 years, a
generous part of his $2 trillion climate change plan is earmarked for
nuclear power, particularly small modular reactors, and he frequently
mentions the fact that nuclear power is a zero carbon technology, and it
has the best safety record of any energy source.



> *> If we experience rolling blackouts and brownouts, the rabble, even dem
> rabble will turn and blame their 'leadership,'*
>

If Biden screws up the economy then he should be blamed, but so far at
least I see no evidence that he is doing that.


> *> what's more important, saving the earth or feeding your family? *
>

That's a very odd question. Is the important thing for you that when the Earth
comes to an end and your family faces oblivion at least they will do so
with a full stomach?

.
John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis


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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[John Clark]

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 11:52 AM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:05:25 AM UTC-6 johnk...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:32 AM Lawrence Crowell 
>> wrote:
>>
>> * > academia, is indeed mentally defective.*
>>
>>
>>
> I did not write that. I think in the replies and so forth with nested
> statements that somehow became implied as mine.
>

Sorry Lawrence, my mistake.

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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[Lawrence Crowell]

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 7:47:15 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

> I would say that if madness is a disease that causes ones to distrust the 
> vocalizations of the dem establishment, sure, fine. The once democratic 
> party looks now to be an increasingly poor imitation of the kind of setup 
> in the People's Republic of China. Team dem loves censorship,they want to 
> control what people say, and it all gets funded (The CP) by oligarchs. I 
> will just reiterate, that if the dems screw up the economy post-Covid, 
> there will be a ferocious public reaction. 
>

When people tell me the Democratic Party is communist they are really 
telling me they have no clue as to what communism or Marxism are. The 
conspiracy narratives about communism is just a latter day form of 
McCarthyism that is promoted by QAnon and t'Rumpism. It is a case of Dumb 
White Trash America on parade. 

LC
 

>
> Based of recent democrat rulings, let's use natural gas prices and supply 
> (fracking) as a real-world test of how this impacts the economy? Nat gas 
> turbines supply about 38% of the electrical supply to the US. Much has been 
> in the service of replacing coal fired plants, and thus, shuttering those. 
> Now what happens to price and supplies for gas turbines when supplies 
> decrease because of policy-induced shortages? It's not like there is solar 
> and wind ready to replace the fracked gas that supplied electrical power. A 
> state like Massachusetts or New York, could have thus prepared to do this 
> for a cleaner, greener, world. So, why haven't they? They could have been 
> the true revolutionaries under the rule of Orange Man, defying his 
> earth-unfriendly energy policies. So where's my solar and wind power along 
> with my flying car?
>
> If we experience rolling blackouts and brownouts, the rabble, even dem 
> rabble will turn and blame their 'leadership,' because what's more 
> important, saving the earth or feeding your family? Consider this a test.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lawrence Crowell 
> To: Everything List 
> Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2021 8:32 am
> Subject: Re: cognitive functioning in extremists
>
> On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:03:46 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Yeah I found it interesting that the founder of the proud boys a non-white 
> guy was ID or outed as an FBI informant in certain drug cases some years 
> back so I was always cautious of this so-called group because they fight 
> they fought the antifa people but for what reason? I had wondered if one or 
> more than them were FBI informants and according to one attorney general or 
> former assistant attorney general as I recall the dude in question was 
> indeed an FBI informant. 
> Back to the original topic the paper by the Royal society asserts, and the 
> good physicists who posted this study, holds that people who hold views 
> different from what I would term the Democratic socialist norm, that is so 
> prevalent nowadays and academia, is indeed mentally defective.
> That's somehow their ability to observe the world and process information 
> is in some fashion disenhanced. Like calling those who the Royal society 
> disagrees with, retarded. That was my takeaway from the Royal society 
> article provided. 
> It also reminds me of the 1939 Nazi psychiatrist process called teagarden 
> 4 or teer garden for that was utilized to get rid of the retarded, 
> depressed people, political opponents. It seems to me like this methodology 
> is now again being proposed if so we'll get to see who is the weekend 
> victim, and who in actuality is not?
> --
> On Friday, February 26, 2021 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 2/26/2021 1:49 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
> >
> > We don't live in a free country, but a land that is increasingly 
> > menaced by an oligarchy funding democratic socialist (soviet) causes.
> >
>
>
> This little bit and other things give me ample evidence that Spudboy is a 
> madman. I wonder why any rational person would engage him in any 
> correspondence.
>
> LC
>  
>
> The oligarchs funding tax cuts for the rich, voter suppression measures, 
> repealing the ACA, opposing net neutrality, permitting religions to 
> discriminate,...THOSE socialist causes?
>
> What name to you go by in the Proud Bois?
>
> Brent
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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

I would say that if madness is a disease that causes ones to distrust the 
vocalizations of the dem establishment, sure, fine. The once democratic party 
looks now to be an increasingly poor imitation of the kind of setup in the 
People's Republic of China. Team dem loves censorship,they want to control what 
people say, and it all gets funded (The CP) by oligarchs. I will just 
reiterate, that if the dems screw up the economy post-Covid, there will be a 
ferocious public reaction. 
Based of recent democrat rulings, let's use natural gas prices and supply 
(fracking) as a real-world test of how this impacts the economy? Nat gas 
turbines supply about 38% of the electrical supply to the US. Much has been in 
the service of replacing coal fired plants, and thus, shuttering those. Now 
what happens to price and supplies for gas turbines when supplies decrease 
because of policy-induced shortages? It's not like there is solar and wind 
ready to replace the fracked gas that supplied electrical power. A state like 
Massachusetts or New York, could have thus prepared to do this for a cleaner, 
greener, world. So, why haven't they? They could have been the true 
revolutionaries under the rule of Orange Man, defying his earth-unfriendly 
energy policies. So where's my solar and wind power along with my flying car?
If we experience rolling blackouts and brownouts, the rabble, even dem rabble 
will turn and blame their 'leadership,' because what's more important, saving 
the earth or feeding your family? Consider this a test.


-Original Message-
From: Lawrence Crowell 
To: Everything List 
Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2021 8:32 am
Subject: Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:03:46 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

Yeah I found it interesting that the founder of the proud boys a non-white guy 
was ID or outed as an FBI informant in certain drug cases some years back so I 
was always cautious of this so-called group because they fight they fought the 
antifa people but for what reason? I had wondered if one or more than them were 
FBI informants and according to one attorney general or former assistant 
attorney general as I recall the dude in question was indeed an FBI informant. 
Back to the original topic the paper by the Royal society asserts, and the good 
physicists who posted this study, holds that people who hold views different 
from what I would term the Democratic socialist norm, that is so prevalent 
nowadays and academia, is indeed mentally defective.That's somehow their 
ability to observe the world and process information is in some fashion 
disenhanced. Like calling those who the Royal society disagrees with, retarded. 
That was my takeaway from the Royal society article provided. It also reminds 
me of the 1939 Nazi psychiatrist process called teagarden 4 or teer garden for 
that was utilized to get rid of the retarded, depressed people, political 
opponents. It seems to me like this methodology is now again being proposed if 
so we'll get to see who is the weekend victim, and who in actuality is not?On 
Friday, February 26, 2021 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
 wrote:


On 2/26/2021 1:49 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
>
> We don't live in a free country, but a land that is increasingly 
> menaced by an oligarchy funding democratic socialist (soviet) causes.
>



This little bit and other things give me ample evidence that Spudboy is a 
madman. I wonder why any rational person would engage him in any correspondence.
LC 
The oligarchs funding tax cuts for the rich, voter suppression measures, 
repealing the ACA, opposing net neutrality, permitting religions to 
discriminate,...THOSE socialist causes?

What name to you go by in the Proud Bois?

Brent
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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[Lawrence Crowell]

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 10:05:25 AM UTC-6 johnk...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:32 AM Lawrence Crowell  
> wrote:
>
> * > academia, is indeed mentally defective.*
>
>
>
I did not write that. I think in the replies and so forth with nested 
statements that somehow became implied as mine.

LC
 

> And these words of wisdom come from a Trump supporter, a man who has 
> publicly said vaccines cause autism, and climate change is a Chinese 
> hoax, and Covid-19 would disappear after April of last year, and claims he 
> won the November 8 election in a landslide, and said his traitorous thugs 
> who tried to overturn the constitution and take over the government (and 
> hang Mike Pence while the're at it) on January 8 were great people.  
> Well... somebody is certainly mentally defective, but he has nothing to 
> do with academia.
> John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> 
> .
>
>
> .
>>
>

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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[John Clark]

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:32 AM Lawrence Crowell <
goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote:

* > academia, is indeed mentally defective.*


And these words of wisdom come from a Trump supporter, a man who has
publicly said vaccines cause autism, and climate change is a Chinese hoax, and
Covid-19 would disappear after April of last year, and claims he won the
November 8 election in a landslide, and said his traitorous thugs who tried
to overturn the constitution and take over the government (and hang Mike
Pence while the're at it) on January 8 were great people.  Well... somebody
is certainly mentally defective, but he has nothing to do with academia.
John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis

.


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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[Lawrence Crowell]

On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:03:46 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote:

> Yeah I found it interesting that the founder of the proud boys a non-white 
> guy was ID or outed as an FBI informant in certain drug cases some years 
> back so I was always cautious of this so-called group because they fight 
> they fought the antifa people but for what reason? I had wondered if one or 
> more than them were FBI informants and according to one attorney general or 
> former assistant attorney general as I recall the dude in question was 
> indeed an FBI informant. 
>
> Back to the original topic the paper by the Royal society asserts, and the 
> good physicists who posted this study, holds that people who hold views 
> different from what I would term the Democratic socialist norm, that is so 
> prevalent nowadays and academia, is indeed mentally defective.
>
> That's somehow their ability to observe the world and process information 
> is in some fashion disenhanced. Like calling those who the Royal society 
> disagrees with, retarded. That was my takeaway from the Royal society 
> article provided. 
>
> It also reminds me of the 1939 Nazi psychiatrist process called teagarden 
> 4 or teer garden for that was utilized to get rid of the retarded, 
> depressed people, political opponents. It seems to me like this methodology 
> is now again being proposed if so we'll get to see who is the weekend 
> victim, and who in actuality is not?
> --
> On Friday, February 26, 2021 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 2/26/2021 1:49 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
> >
> > We don't live in a free country, but a land that is increasingly 
> > menaced by an oligarchy funding democratic socialist (soviet) causes.
> >
>
>
This little bit and other things give me ample evidence that Spudboy is a 
madman. I wonder why any rational person would engage him in any 
correspondence.

LC
 

> The oligarchs funding tax cuts for the rich, voter suppression measures, 
> repealing the ACA, opposing net neutrality, permitting religions to 
> discriminate,...THOSE socialist causes?
>
> What name to you go by in the Proud Bois?
>
> Brent
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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[John Clark]

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 9:06 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

*>>> University administrators get to over ride the US Bill of Rights.*
>
>
>> Show me! Show me just one example of a university administration
> violating the Bill of Rights I dare you.
>

> *> The first amendment is routinely violated on campus, and against the US
> Bill of Rights. If you like I can take up some time at some near future
> date to supply you with news headlines*


Somebody, I think it was you, already did, but in all the long list of
stories they showed I didn't see one example of a violation of the US Bill
of Rights; I did see some examples of poor judgment on the part of
university officials, but I saw nothing that was even close to criminal,
much less unconstitutional, in what they did. In fact I found one example
of good judgment as when a university fired an astronomy professor for
teaching his students the universe was only 5000 years old because the
Bible said so. It sounds to me like you must have a personal reason for
hating universities so much, but  if you don't like what a university is
doing then start your own university.

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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

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The first amendment is routinely violated on campus, and against the US Bill of 
Rights. If you like I can take up some time at some near future date to supply 
you with news headlines of how this is happening all the time and it's happened 
all over academia for the last several years.

On Saturday, February 27, 2021 John Clark  
wrote:




On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 4:49 PM spudboy100 via Everything List 
 wrote:



> University administrators get to over ride the US Bill of Rights.
 
Show me! Show me just one example of a university administration violating the 
Bill of Rights I dare you.  And don't tell me about them firing somebody for 
what they said because that may or may not have been a good idea depending on 
exactly what they said but it's certainly not a violation of the First 
Amendment which is about the government physically preventing someone from 
saying something. And I must say that mentioning the Bill of rights does not 
make one patriotic anymore than carrying the American flag does, especially if, 
on orders of the current fascist president, you use the flagpole to beat a 
policeman to death with it so you can invade the nation's capital building 
while they're counting the votes to determine who the next president will be.


John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis



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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Yeah I found it interesting that the founder of the proud boys a non-white guy 
was ID or outed as an FBI informant in certain drug cases some years back so I 
was always cautious of this so-called group because they fight they fought the 
antifa people but for what reason? I had wondered if one or more than them were 
FBI informants and according to one attorney general or former assistant 
attorney general as I recall the dude in question was indeed an FBI informant. 

Back to the original topic the paper by the Royal society asserts, and the good 
physicists who posted this study, holds that people who hold views different 
from what I would term the Democratic socialist norm, that is so prevalent 
nowadays and academia, is indeed mentally defective.

That's somehow their ability to observe the world and process information is in 
some fashion disenhanced. Like calling those who the Royal society disagrees 
with, retarded. That was my takeaway from the Royal society article provided. 

It also reminds me of the 1939 Nazi psychiatrist process called teagarden 4 or 
teer garden for that was utilized to get rid of the retarded, depressed people, 
political opponents. It seems to me like this methodology is now again being 
proposed if so we'll get to see who is the weekend victim, and who in actuality 
is not?
On Friday, February 26, 2021 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
 wrote:


On 2/26/2021 1:49 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
>
> We don't live in a free country, but a land that is increasingly 
> menaced by an oligarchy funding democratic socialist (soviet) causes.
>

The oligarchs funding tax cuts for the rich, voter suppression measures, 
repealing the ACA, opposing net neutrality, permitting religions to 
discriminate,...THOSE socialist causes?

What name to you go by in the Proud Bois?

Brent

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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[John Clark]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 4:49 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

*> University administrators get to over ride the US Bill of Rights.*


Show me! Show me just one example of a university administration violating
the Bill of Rights I dare you.  And don't tell me about them firing
somebody for what they said because that may or may not have been a good
idea depending on exactly what they said but it's certainly not a violation
of the First Amendment which is about the government physically preventing
someone from saying something. And I must say that mentioning the Bill of
rights does not make one patriotic anymore than carrying the American flag
does, especially if, on orders of the current fascist president, you use
the flagpole to beat a policeman to death with it so you can invade the
nation's capital building while they're counting the votes to determine who
the next president will be.

John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis


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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

['Brent Meeker' via Everything List]

On 2/26/2021 1:49 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:


We don't live in a free country, but a land that is increasingly 
menaced by an oligarchy funding democratic socialist (soviet) causes.




The oligarchs funding tax cuts for the rich, voter suppression measures, 
repealing the ACA, opposing net neutrality, permitting religions to 
discriminate,...THOSE socialist causes?


What name to you go by in the Proud Bois?

Brent

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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

We don't live in a free country, but a land that is increasingly menaced by an 
oligarchy funding democratic socialist (soviet) causes. For this reason the US 
seems head for a split. When all taxpayers fund Public Universities with 
taxpayer money, this does not conote that. University administrators get to 
over ride the US Bill of Rights.

 No magic rules for progressives, alone.

On Friday, February 26, 2021 smitra  wrote:
On 26-02-2021 12:45, John Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:04 PM spudboy100 via Everything List
>  wrote:
> 
>> _> Seemingly the most totalitarian and anti-intellectual places in
>> the United States and Canada now are on university campuses_
> 
> I grant you that political correctness has gone way overboard on some
> university campuses, but in a world where a mob of mindless Trump
> zombies can sack the capitol building while chanting "Hang Mike Pence"
> and QAnon members of Congress worry about Jewish space lasers starting
> wildfires in California and 40% of Americans think Evolution never
> happened and the Universe is less than 10,000 years old, saying
> universities are the most anti-intellectual places in the United
> States is a RIDICULOUS overstatement.
> John K Clark  See what's on my new list at  Extropolis [1]
> 

It's more to do with it being left-wing political correctness. You would 
have heard far less complaints if it were right-wing political 
correctness. There would certainly be some complaints from left-wing 
activists, but far less from the political establishment, it would not 
be a big talking point. When the issue would come up, you would hear 
people like spudboy point out that if you don't like what the 
universities are doing, then because we live in a free country, you are 
free to start your own university.

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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[smitra]

On 26-02-2021 12:45, John Clark wrote:

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:04 PM spudboy100 via Everything List
 wrote:


_> Seemingly the most totalitarian and anti-intellectual places in
the United States and Canada now are on university campuses_


I grant you that political correctness has gone way overboard on some
university campuses, but in a world where a mob of mindless Trump
zombies can sack the capitol building while chanting "Hang Mike Pence"
and QAnon members of Congress worry about Jewish space lasers starting
wildfires in California and 40% of Americans think Evolution never
happened and the Universe is less than 10,000 years old, saying
universities are the most anti-intellectual places in the United
States is a RIDICULOUS overstatement.
John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis [1]



It's more to do with it being left-wing political correctness. You would 
have heard far less complaints if it were right-wing political 
correctness. There would certainly be some complaints from left-wing 
activists, but far less from the political establishment, it would not 
be a big talking point. When the issue would come up, you would hear 
people like spudboy point out that if you don't like what the 
universities are doing, then because we live in a free country, you are 
free to start your own university.


Saibal

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Re: cognitive functioning in extremists

[John Clark]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 1:04 PM spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> *> Seemingly the most totalitarian and anti-intellectual places in the
> United States and Canada now are on university campuses*
>

I grant you that political correctness has gone way overboard on some
university campuses, but in a world where a mob of mindless Trump zombies
can sack the capitol building while chanting "Hang Mike Pence" and QAnon
members of Congress worry about Jewish space lasers starting wildfires in
California and 40% of Americans think Evolution never happened and the Universe
is less than 10,000 years old, saying universities are the most
anti-intellectual places in the United States is a *RIDICULOUS*
 overstatement.
John K Clark   See what's on my new list at  Extropolis


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RE: cognitive functioning in extremists

[spudboy100 via Everything List]

Seemingly the most totalitarian and anti-intellectual places in the United 
States and Canada now are on university campuses these institutions are funded 
by public monies and even so free speech is considered unwelcome most of the 
time on these campuses because they're seen as disruptive, or racist, or 
somehow just plain bad. In other words ideas and concepts can't be rationally 
discussed anymore because they offend the ideologically driven left basically 
liberals socialists who tend aside with the old Soviet socialism as a ideology 
as a way of life. I'm not sure what the Royal society would have to say about 
that all I do know is that both Stalin and Hitler were very bad guys and only 
one of them got eliminated unfortunately. Chairman Mao took up both in a way 
Stalin and Hitler's methodology and mindset but did it mostly to their own 
Chinese people.I wonder if this royal society paper is actually scientific in 
nature or is it instead ideological? Because of it is ideological as it might 
be, then possibly it's a way of doing what the initiators of the Holocaust did 
and begin to dehumanize the people they don't like in this case nationalist and 
conservatives as stated in the paper. So if they're going to dehumanization 
route to make it easier to kill us, this gives me pause interesting article 
though!

On Thursday, February 25, 2021 Lawrence Crowell 
 wrote:
Abstract
Although human existence is enveloped by ideologies, remarkably little is 
understood about the relationships between ideological attitudes and 
psychological traits. Even less is known about how cognitive 
dispositions—individual differences in how information is perceived and 
processed— sculpt individuals' ideological worldviews, proclivities for 
extremist beliefs and resistance (or receptivity) to evidence. Using an 
unprecedented number of cognitive tasks (n = 37) and personality surveys (n = 
22), along with data-driven analyses including drift-diffusion and Bayesian 
modelling, we uncovered the specific psychological signatures of political, 
nationalistic, religious and dogmatic beliefs. Cognitive and personality 
assessments consistently outperformed demographic predictors in accounting for 
individual differences in ideological preferences by 4 to 15-fold. Furthermore, 
data-driven analyses revealed that individuals’ ideological attitudes mirrored 
their cognitive decision-making strategies. Conservatism and nationalism were 
related to greater caution in perceptual decision-making tasks and to reduced 
strategic information processing, while dogmatism was associated with slower 
evidence accumulation and impulsive tendencies. Religiosity was implicated in 
heightened agreeableness and risk perception. Extreme pro-group attitudes, 
including violence endorsement against outgroups, were linked to poorer working 
memory, slower perceptual strategies, and tendencies towards impulsivity and 
sensation-seeking—reflecting overlaps with the psychological profiles of 
conservatism and dogmatism. Cognitive and personality signatures were also 
generated for ideologies such as authoritarianism, system justification, social 
dominance orientation, patriotism and receptivity to evidence or alternative 
viewpoints; elucidating their underpinnings and highlighting avenues for future 
research. Together these findings suggest that ideological worldviews may be 
reflective of low-level perceptual and cognitive functions.




The original article is here:

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2020.0424


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cognitive functioning in extremists

[Lawrence Crowell]

Abstract

Although human existence is enveloped by ideologies, remarkably little is 
understood about the relationships between ideological attitudes and 
psychological traits. Even less is known about how cognitive 
dispositions—individual differences in how information is perceived and 
processed— sculpt individuals' ideological worldviews, proclivities for 
extremist beliefs and resistance (or receptivity) to evidence. Using an 
unprecedented number of cognitive tasks (*n* = 37) and personality surveys (
*n* = 22), along with data-driven analyses including drift-diffusion and 
Bayesian modelling, we uncovered the specific psychological signatures of 
political, nationalistic, religious and dogmatic beliefs. Cognitive and 
personality assessments consistently outperformed demographic predictors in 
accounting for individual differences in ideological preferences by 4 to 
15-fold. Furthermore, data-driven analyses revealed that individuals’ 
ideological attitudes mirrored their cognitive decision-making strategies. 
Conservatism and nationalism were related to greater caution in perceptual 
decision-making tasks and to reduced strategic information processing, 
while dogmatism was associated with slower evidence accumulation and 
impulsive tendencies. Religiosity was implicated in heightened 
agreeableness and risk perception. Extreme pro-group attitudes, including 
violence endorsement against outgroups, were linked to poorer working 
memory, slower perceptual strategies, and tendencies towards impulsivity 
and sensation-seeking—reflecting overlaps with the psychological profiles 
of conservatism and dogmatism. Cognitive and personality signatures were 
also generated for ideologies such as authoritarianism, system 
justification, social dominance orientation, patriotism and receptivity to 
evidence or alternative viewpoints; elucidating their underpinnings and 
highlighting avenues for future research. Together these findings suggest 
that ideological worldviews may be reflective of low-level perceptual and 
cognitive functions.


The original article is here:

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2020.0424

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