Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-08 Thread Rui Miguel Seabra

On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:32:15PM -0500, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
> On Fri, 2001-12-07 at 19:47, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
> > Btw, after some finishing touches, I intend to release a perl script to
> > help integrate evolution email folders with email text editors, such as
> > mutt, which is great, but does not do imap, calendar and contacts as
> > good as evolution does, besides being a terrific email client.
> 
> I've actually written one myself already, as I'm constantly on the
> lookout for "the perfect" e-mail client for *nix.  There isn't one, by
> the way.  =:\  But evolution is the closest thing to a complete e-mail
> client that I've seen in 12+ years of using *nix.  I've used the

Yes, however, evolution does not yet solve the problems of remote
connections (ssh, for instance) a sudden need for a text console.

> attached perl script more times than I care to remember, and it works
> for what I need it for and has come in very handy as evolution has
> progressed to the point of being my main e-mail client, along with mutt
> and balsa. 
> This script will create an mbox-spool-type directory structure with
> symlinks to evolution's mbox files wherever you tell it to, and coming
> from wherever you tell it to.  Incidentally, I first tried this in
> reverse--leaving the real mbox files in my mbox directory structure and
> creating an evolution directory structure that had the symlinks
> ("~/Mail/Inbox -> ~/evolution/local/Inbox/mbox").  

I actually don't care about the format of the mailbox, since evolution
calls mbox to mbox style and maildir style (haven't checked mh, but I'd
suspect it will call them mbox anyway):

folder/mbox
   or
folder/mbox/{new,cur,tmp}

I just get folder as a name to symlink.
with subfolders (this here has a caveat, I ignore mbox on folders that
have subfolders - except for inbox), I make a directory to contain all
sublinks.

> This, however, doesn't work, as evolution first removes the symlink and
> then recreates the file when it goes to save changes to an mbox file. 
> I've never understood why this is done, and it annoys the heck out of
> me, as I'd much prefer to have simply been able to use my 8-year+
> accumulated mbox-spool directory with evolution, rather than convert it
> all to evolution's directory structure. 

yeah, but I really don't see much of a chance of doing that easily.

cheers, rms



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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-07 Thread Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper

On Fri, 2001-12-07 at 19:47, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:

> 
> Btw, after some finishing touches, I intend to release a perl script to
> help integrate evolution email folders with email text editors, such as
> mutt, which is great, but does not do imap, calendar and contacts as
> good as evolution does, besides being a terrific email client.

I've actually written one myself already, as I'm constantly on the
lookout for "the perfect" e-mail client for *nix.  There isn't one, by
the way.  =:\  But evolution is the closest thing to a complete e-mail
client that I've seen in 12+ years of using *nix.  I've used the
attached perl script more times than I care to remember, and it works
for what I need it for and has come in very handy as evolution has
progressed to the point of being my main e-mail client, along with mutt
and balsa. 

This script will create an mbox-spool-type directory structure with
symlinks to evolution's mbox files wherever you tell it to, and coming
from wherever you tell it to.  Incidentally, I first tried this in
reverse--leaving the real mbox files in my mbox directory structure and
creating an evolution directory structure that had the symlinks
("~/Mail/Inbox -> ~/evolution/local/Inbox/mbox").  

This, however, doesn't work, as evolution first removes the symlink and
then recreates the file when it goes to save changes to an mbox file. 
I've never understood why this is done, and it annoys the heck out of
me, as I'd much prefer to have simply been able to use my 8-year+
accumulated mbox-spool directory with evolution, rather than convert it
all to evolution's directory structure. 

So, along with this perl script that's hopefully helpful to someone,
somewhere, can anyone explain why evolution does this?  I use mutt and
have for years, and it does not do this.

Please let me know what you think





> 
> 
> Cheers, rms
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#  prototypes
sub usage();

#  used modules
use File::Basename;
use File::Copy;
use Cwd;

#  MAIN
usage() unless @ARGV == 2;

($newdir, $olddir) = @ARGV;

if (! -d $newdir || ! -d $olddir ) {
	die "either newdir->$newdir<- or olddir->$olddir<- doesn't exist. bailing...\n";
}

$startDir = cwd();

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	$orig_file=$_;
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	$orig_file =~s/^\.\///;

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	chomp $orig_file;

	print "file->$file<-\n";

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	$file=~ s/\/mbox//;

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	if ($file=~ /\//) {
		$folder = $file;
		$folder=~ s/(.*?)\/.*?$/$1/ig;
		if (! -d $folder) {
			print ("need to create directory->$folder<-\n");
			mkdir($folder,0777) || die "cannot mkdir $folder $!";
		}
	}
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		# if the link already exists, see if it's valid if it's
		# not, remove it
		$linked=readlink($file);
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			print "this file ->$file<- is a bad link. okay to remove it? ";
			chomp($answer = );
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			}
		}
	}

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		# skip it if we're trying to link to a directory
	} elsif (! -e $file)  {
		symlink("$olddir/$orig_file",$file) || 
		die "cannot symlink this->$olddir/$orig_file<- to this->$file<-";
	}
}

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-07 Thread Rui Miguel Seabra

On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 05:05:36AM -0500, Christopher James Lahey wrote:
> On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 04:20, Mikael Wahlberg wrote:
> > On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 09:58, Mattias Eriksson wrote:
> > > work in a way you have planed. This is not the correct way to look at
> > > things, just keep it simple and let the user have it's freedom (and that
> > > includes the freedom to get stuck in vim, if that what the user have
> > > asked for...)
> 
> It's a good point that one of the tenets of free software is choice. 
> However, anyone who is knowledgeable enough to want to use emacs or vi
> here will be knowledgeable enough to figure out how to change a text
> file somewhere or run a helper app.  If you can find someone who isn't,
> I'd be impressed.

My main reason for using evolution is the ability to sync contacts and
calendars. I'd love to be able to use vim for advanced (and decent) text
editing of email.

I don't give a damn about html composition, which, imho is braindead for
99.999% of the uses, but as I understand a lot of people use it and like
it, I can't complain about having an html editor.

However, since I _never_ use the html features in any email I send, I
would much rather be able to do :%s/.../.../g in the same application.

Btw, after some finishing touches, I intend to release a perl script to
help integrate evolution email folders with email text editors, such as
mutt, which is great, but does not do imap, calendar and contacts as
good as evolution does, besides being a terrific email client.


> Yes, but they'll never be able to write an email again.  Especially
> since evolution settings would persist across uninstalling and
> reinstalling evolution.  They may even have to resort to creating a new
> user or uninstalling and reinstalling the whole OS to get it to work
> again.  At the very least, they're going to have to call up their hacker
> friend to fix it.

And thus they will learn and become less ignorant.
I say let'em err, so they can learn.

Is that a problem? I don't believe in stupid users, just uninformed and
ignorant users. The solution is not to make software stupid, but to
enlighten and provide choice (not necessarily just of tools, but of ways
of using tools).

Cheers, rms



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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-05 Thread Christopher James Lahey

On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 11:48, Jason D. Hildebrand wrote:
> I think all of this is solved quite easily by the way components work.  
> Gnome-vim is packaged separately from Evolution.  If Evolution queries Oaf
> to see which compatible editor components are installed and only finds one,
> it doesn't have to display any configurable options.  
> 
> If it finds gnome-vim (or something else), then obviously the user or the 
> user's IT department has installed it explicitly, so it should appear as an 
> option.

I do like this idea.  As long as gnome-vim and gnome-emacs aren't
installed on most people's boxes, this would be perfect.

> I _do_ think though, that the proper place to choose the editor is the Gnome Control
> Center, though, not Evo.

I agree.

Thanks,
   Chris



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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-05 Thread Jason D. Hildebrand

On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 07:11, robert slater wrote:
>
>
> > On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 04:20, Mikael Wahlberg wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 09:58, Mattias Eriksson wrote:
> Hello All
> Usually you are way way over my head. But this one caught  my eye.
> I would not describe myself as a total newbie but a discussion on whether to
> include vim or vi is counter to the whole reason that evolution is the "non
> geeks" choice.
> The great thing about evolution [I use it, but I am not on my machine] is
> its simplicity for the average user.
> Don't include a "hard to use" geeky option like vi.
> The first time you hit VI as a MS user you think your computers died, hardly
> a confidence builder for the brave WIN ME user who has installed Xiamian!

I think all of this is solved quite easily by the way components work.  
Gnome-vim is packaged separately from Evolution.  If Evolution queries Oaf
to see which compatible editor components are installed and only finds one,
it doesn't have to display any configurable options.  

If it finds gnome-vim (or something else), then obviously the user or the 
user's IT department has installed it explicitly, so it should appear as an 
option.

I _do_ think though, that the proper place to choose the editor is the Gnome Control
Center, though, not Evo.

...Jason



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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-05 Thread Ray Lee

On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 02:05, Christopher James Lahey wrote:
> Yes, but they'll never be able to write an email again. [...]
> At the very least, they're going to have to call up their hacker
> friend to fix it.

What's so hard about clicking Tools -> Mail Settings -> Composer again?
They found it the first time, they can find it again. And if it's a
dangerous option, you don't hide the damn thing, you *warn* people when
they select it the first time around.

If you're *really* worried about these sorts of things, then attribute
to each option a level of Novice, Beginner, or Advanced, and only show
those options applicable to that level.

BTW, Evolution is great stuff. Thank you all :-)

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-05 Thread Mikael Wahlberg

On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 11:05, Christopher James Lahey wrote:

> I'm not going to argue that we should only allow it in an almost
> impossible to find place, but we should think long and hard before
> including a gui configuration for it.  Perhaps the person has to click
> on advanced at least once.  99.9% (add lots of 9s here) of people in the
> world, if given the task of sending an email, would really be best
> served by just using gtkhtml.  Hopefully they wouldn't even know it was
> html.

Yes, I'm not arguing with that. But the "hard to find" part is not my
idea of user friendliness. An "Advanced" button on editor configuration
where you could specify an alternative editor is a good idea. Not hard
to find (At least I would look for that alternative in the advanced
settings) and not too easy to change by mistake.

> It's a good point that one of the tenets of free software is choice. 
> However, anyone who is knowledgeable enough to want to use emacs or vi
> here will be knowledgeable enough to figure out how to change a text
> file somewhere or run a helper app.  If you can find someone who isn't,
> I'd be impressed.

That's not the point. If I'm using a GUI application with a settings
dialog I would like to find the settings I need there.

> Yes, but they'll never be able to write an email again.  Especially
> since evolution settings would persist across uninstalling and
> reinstalling evolution.  They may even have to resort to creating a new
> user or uninstalling and reinstalling the whole OS to get it to work
> again.  At the very least, they're going to have to call up their hacker
> friend to fix it.

If they can change the settings to use vim as an editor, they probably
can change the setting back to "Default" as well.

/Mikael

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-05 Thread robert slater



> On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 04:20, Mikael Wahlberg wrote:
> > On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 09:58, Mattias Eriksson wrote:
Hello All
Usually you are way way over my head. But this one caught  my eye.
I would not describe myself as a total newbie but a discussion on whether to
include vim or vi is counter to the whole reason that evolution is the "non
geeks" choice.
The great thing about evolution [I use it, but I am not on my machine] is
its simplicity for the average user.
Don't include a "hard to use" geeky option like vi.
The first time you hit VI as a MS user you think your computers died, hardly
a confidence builder for the brave WIN ME user who has installed Xiamian!
Just a users $0.02
As someone who flogs Linux to business..."When's the Evolution [read
exchange] server coming" is all they want to know
I do explain that reverse engineering closed code is a tad difficult
Robert Slater

> >
> > > I dont think the configuration dialogs should be bloated, but things
> > > should still be easy to do. And by trying to keep the user from being
> > > able to change a option like editor you are trying to force the user
to
> > > work in a way you have planed. This is not the correct way to look at
> > > things, just keep it simple and let the user have it's freedom (and
that
> > > includes the freedom to get stuck in vim, if that what the user have
> > > asked for...)
> >
> > I totally agree with Mattias. Don't make the users more stupid than they
> > are. Default configuration should of course be a simple non-vim editor
> > environment, but making the possibility to change the editor hard to
> > find does not make any sense.
>
> I'm not going to argue that we should only allow it in an almost
> impossible to find place, but we should think long and hard before
> including a gui configuration for it.  Perhaps the person has to click
> on advanced at least once.  99.9% (add lots of 9s here) of people in the
> world, if given the task of sending an email, would really be best
> served by just using gtkhtml.  Hopefully they wouldn't even know it was
> html.
>
> It's a good point that one of the tenets of free software is choice.
> However, anyone who is knowledgeable enough to want to use emacs or vi
> here will be knowledgeable enough to figure out how to change a text
> file somewhere or run a helper app.  If you can find someone who isn't,
> I'd be impressed.
>
> > Anyways, in Evo, I don't think getting stuck in vim is a big problem,
> > the user just have to close the composer window to get out :-)
>
> Yes, but they'll never be able to write an email again.  Especially
> since evolution settings would persist across uninstalling and
> reinstalling evolution.  They may even have to resort to creating a new
> user or uninstalling and reinstalling the whole OS to get it to work
> again.  At the very least, they're going to have to call up their hacker
> friend to fix it.
>
> Thanks,
>Chris
>
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-05 Thread Richard Schoeller

On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 05:05, Christopher James Lahey wrote:
> It's a good point that one of the tenets of free software is choice. 
> However, anyone who is knowledgeable enough to want to use emacs or vi
> here will be knowledgeable enough to figure out how to change a text
> file somewhere or run a helper app.  If you can find someone who isn't,
> I'd be impressed.
> 

I would say that they would be knowledgeable AND persistent enough to
find the text file to be edited.  But it would still be a pain.  And
someone would still have inform them that it is even a possibility to
make vim the default.  I work with a fair number of programmers who
prefer vi but would never find your customization.

> 
> Yes, but they'll never be able to write an email again.  Especially
> since evolution settings would persist across uninstalling and
> reinstalling evolution.  They may even have to resort to creating a new
> user or uninstalling and reinstalling the whole OS to get it to work
> again.  At the very least, they're going to have to call up their hacker
> friend to fix it.

If you can change the setting on the fly, then there shouldn't be a
problem with having it in the GUI.  A user who is unable to make vi
work after turning it on, will quickly turn something else on.  And
the risk can be further reduced by popping a warning about the perils
changing editors at the time the user changes the setting.

What would be really stupid would be changing the setting to vim and
then having to use vim to change the setting back to gtkhtml  :^)

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-05 Thread Christopher James Lahey

On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 04:20, Mikael Wahlberg wrote:
> On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 09:58, Mattias Eriksson wrote:
> 
> 
> > I dont think the configuration dialogs should be bloated, but things
> > should still be easy to do. And by trying to keep the user from being
> > able to change a option like editor you are trying to force the user to
> > work in a way you have planed. This is not the correct way to look at
> > things, just keep it simple and let the user have it's freedom (and that
> > includes the freedom to get stuck in vim, if that what the user have
> > asked for...)
> 
> I totally agree with Mattias. Don't make the users more stupid than they
> are. Default configuration should of course be a simple non-vim editor
> environment, but making the possibility to change the editor hard to
> find does not make any sense.

I'm not going to argue that we should only allow it in an almost
impossible to find place, but we should think long and hard before
including a gui configuration for it.  Perhaps the person has to click
on advanced at least once.  99.9% (add lots of 9s here) of people in the
world, if given the task of sending an email, would really be best
served by just using gtkhtml.  Hopefully they wouldn't even know it was
html.

It's a good point that one of the tenets of free software is choice. 
However, anyone who is knowledgeable enough to want to use emacs or vi
here will be knowledgeable enough to figure out how to change a text
file somewhere or run a helper app.  If you can find someone who isn't,
I'd be impressed.

> Anyways, in Evo, I don't think getting stuck in vim is a big problem,
> the user just have to close the composer window to get out :-) 

Yes, but they'll never be able to write an email again.  Especially
since evolution settings would persist across uninstalling and
reinstalling evolution.  They may even have to resort to creating a new
user or uninstalling and reinstalling the whole OS to get it to work
again.  At the very least, they're going to have to call up their hacker
friend to fix it.

Thanks,
   Chris


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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-05 Thread Mikael Wahlberg

On Wed, 2001-12-05 at 09:58, Mattias Eriksson wrote:


> I dont think the configuration dialogs should be bloated, but things
> should still be easy to do. And by trying to keep the user from being
> able to change a option like editor you are trying to force the user to
> work in a way you have planed. This is not the correct way to look at
> things, just keep it simple and let the user have it's freedom (and that
> includes the freedom to get stuck in vim, if that what the user have
> asked for...)

I totally agree with Mattias. Don't make the users more stupid than they
are. Default configuration should of course be a simple non-vim editor
environment, but making the possibility to change the editor hard to
find does not make any sense.

Anyways, in Evo, I don't think getting stuck in vim is a big problem,
the user just have to close the composer window to get out :-) 

/Mikael
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-05 Thread Mattias Eriksson

tis 2001-12-04 klockan 23.08 skrev Sergio A. Kessler:
> >   Now, what we need in Evolution to make this really usable is:
> >
> > * A more generic, non-HTML-specific interface that other editors
> >   can implement.
> > * An Editor picker in the config dialogs of Evolution.
> 
> 
> then this editor picker should be hard to find,
> (ideally with no gui-support, just edit a config file)
> I can easily imagine a newbie traped inside vim...

I don't understand this kind of ideas, usability by making tings a pain
in the ass! I just don't get it.

I dont think the configuration dialogs should be bloated, but things
should still be easy to do. And by trying to keep the user from being
able to change a option like editor you are trying to force the user to
work in a way you have planed. This is not the correct way to look at
things, just keep it simple and let the user have it's freedom (and that
includes the freedom to get stuck in vim, if that what the user have
asked for...)

//Snaggen

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-04 Thread Sergio A. Kessler

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From: "Ettore Perazzoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> I posted about this a few months ago, and I think I've got something
to the stage where
> others may be interested in taking a look.
>
>   Wow, this looks sweet!


a cool hack, indeed.

>   Now, what we need in Evolution to make this really usable is:
>
> * A more generic, non-HTML-specific interface that other editors
>   can implement.
> * An Editor picker in the config dialogs of Evolution.


then this editor picker should be hard to find,
(ideally with no gui-support, just edit a config file)
I can easily imagine a newbie traped inside vim...

/sergio

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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-12-04 Thread Ettore Perazzoli





I posted about this a few months ago, and I think I've got something to the stage where
others may be interested in taking a look.

  Wow, this looks sweet!



  Now, what we need in Evolution to make this really usable is:

A more generic, non-HTML-specific interface that other editors can implement.
An Editor picker in the config dialogs of Evolution.
Make Evolution pick the editor that the user specified.

  Then it would be easier to add support for (X)Emacs as well...



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RE: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-11-30 Thread Ali Akcaagac

On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 23:02, Jason D. Hildebrand wrote:
> There's no reason why the same method wouldn't work for emacs.  I guess I thought 
> that most emacs users run a mail client _inside_ of emacs, and wouldn't 
> be interested in evolution at all.  :)

heh :-)

who want's to run an OS inside a mail client not to count what takes
longer to load.. evolution or emacs :)

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RE: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-11-30 Thread Jason D. Hildebrand

There's no reason why the same method wouldn't work for emacs.  I guess I thought 
that most emacs users run a mail client _inside_ of emacs, and wouldn't 
be interested in evolution at all.  :)

On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 15:30, Jeremy Wise wrote:
> 
>   Big woo... Where's the emacs version?  Why do we need Vi[m] anymore??
> 
>
> Just kidding...  This bonobo thing is getting kinda cool :)  Nice work.
>
> Later,
>
> Jeremy Wise
> GnomeICU Author
>
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> evolution
>
>
> Awesome! ;-)
>
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 15:58, Jason D. Hildebrand wrote:
> > I posted about this a few months ago, and I think I've got something to
> the stage where
> > others may be interested in taking a look.
> >
> > I've created a bonobo component which embeds VIM inside a zvt widget, and
> implements part
> > of the GtkHTML interface.  It works with Evolution (if you hack evolution
> a bit so that knows
> > about gnome-vim).
> >
> > You can check it out at http://www.opensky.ca/gnome-vim
> >
> > I'd be curious to hear what people think about it.
> >
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Re: [Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-11-30 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

Awesome! ;-)

Jeff

On Fri, 2001-11-30 at 15:58, Jason D. Hildebrand wrote:
> I posted about this a few months ago, and I think I've got something to the stage 
>where
> others may be interested in taking a look.
> 
> I've created a bonobo component which embeds VIM inside a zvt widget, and implements 
>part
> of the GtkHTML interface.  It works with Evolution (if you hack evolution a bit so 
>that knows
> about gnome-vim).
> 
> You can check it out at http://www.opensky.ca/gnome-vim
> 
> I'd be curious to hear what people think about it.
> 
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[Evolution-hackers] gnome-vim editor component for evolution

2001-11-30 Thread Jason D. Hildebrand

I posted about this a few months ago, and I think I've got something to the stage where
others may be interested in taking a look.

I've created a bonobo component which embeds VIM inside a zvt widget, and implements 
part
of the GtkHTML interface.  It works with Evolution (if you hack evolution a bit so 
that knows
about gnome-vim).

You can check it out at http://www.opensky.ca/gnome-vim

I'd be curious to hear what people think about it.

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