RE: Outlook 11

2003-06-13 Thread Keith.hanna
yes. you would do it, then deny it.
:P

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From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 June 2003 11:32
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 11


Me?

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-Original Message-
From: John Etie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 June 2003 04:40
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 11


Who wouldn't?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 11


They skip 13.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:11 PM
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That's one long outlook.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook 11


One and the same.

Outlook10 = Outlook2002.
Outlook9=Outlook2000

Outlook12=Outlook2006


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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:15 AM
Subject: Outlook 11


Sorry I have to ask, what is Outlook 11?  Is that outlook 2003?  Thnx!

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RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

2003-06-13 Thread Roger Seielstad
Well, I'll start with my standard response to this topic:

SMTP != POP3
SMTP  POP3
SMTP .ne. POP3

Now that that's out of the way, you don't let inbound POP access, you're
allowing access to your mail server via POP3. Personally, I think that's not
appropriate for most organizations, but for some it might be. It certainly
isn't for ours, and I tend to disable POP3 on Exchange from the start.

To address the attachments issue via POP, that's why my attachment filtering
list is deployed both on our gateway mail servers, which manage both inbound
and outbound mail as well as on the Exchange servers. With this scheme, all
combinations of sender-recipient pairs are covered under the same attachment
limitations.

Roger
--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?
 
 
 List,
 
 This might be more appropriate for a firewall/security list 
 but it involves email and I don't belong to one of those yet 
 so I'll post my question here.  I'm curious as to how many of 
 your companies allow internal clients to access POP mail 
 externally.  The reason I'm asking is because I see POP mail 
 as security risk.  Let me explain.  Our firewall strips all 
 but a few attachments from our incoming SMTP email. With POP 
 however attachments cannot be striped leaving a hole for new 
 virus that aren't detectable yet by our virus software.  I'm 
 going to try to talk management into letting me block POP.  
 Is blocking incoming POP something other company do?  Is 
 there some other way to secure incoming POP mail?
 
 Matt
 
 
 
 
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RE: EDB Size ?

2003-06-13 Thread Roger Seielstad
Make sure Mr. Sojka sends a cashier's check, not a personal check. The
personal check would require being held for 2 weeks prior to releasing the
vowel into his posession.

Roger
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 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:31 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: EDB Size ?
 
 
 Yes.  Send me a check for $250.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:56 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: EDB Size ?
 
 
 Can I buy a vowel? 
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  He didn't say open relays was his answer.  That was his pick for the
  next category
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:49 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Oh I know the show the only problem was your answer was 
 wrong.  Didn't
  you see the part about Thanks for playing?
  
  Alex
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:27 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Sorry.  That part was a joke; I'd assumed you'd seen this game show
  called Jeopardy and would understand that I was informing 
 you what 
  topic I'd chosen for the NEXT question, having answered the current 
  question correctly.
  
  The former part was my answer to your question.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:12 PM Posted To: 
 MSExchange Mailing
  List
  Conversation: EDB Size ?
  Subject: RE: EDB Size ?
  
  
  No it's not open relays because SMTP mail doesn't get stored in the
  priv.edb but thanks for playing.  Besides we have an SMTP 
 server for 
  that.
  
  Alex
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:07 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  What are white space, and inherent and well-documented 
 inaccuracies in
  reported mailbox sizes, Alex?
  
  I'll take Sino-Korean Open Relays for $500, Alex.
  
  -tom
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:50 PM Posted To: MSExchange 
  Mailing List
  Conversation: EDB Size ?
  Subject: EDB Size ?
  
  
  Does anyone know why our edb size would be 50GB but when you export 
  all of the users and their mailbox sizes to an Excel spreadsheet
  and add all
  the sizes of the mailboxes I only get 16GB?  We are EX2000 SP3.
  
  Alex
  
  
  
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RE: EDB Size ?

2003-06-13 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
All jokes aside about this topic... what do you mean well-documented
inaccuracies?  Is there something in a KB doc that talks about this?

Alex 
-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

What are white space, and inherent and well-documented inaccuracies in
reported mailbox sizes, Alex?

I'll take Sino-Korean Open Relays for $500, Alex.

-tom

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:50 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: EDB Size ?
Subject: EDB Size ?


Does anyone know why our edb size would be 50GB but when you export all
of the users and their mailbox sizes to an Excel spreadsheet and add all
the sizes of the mailboxes I only get 16GB?  We are EX2000 SP3.

Alex 



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RE: EDB Size ?

2003-06-13 Thread Tom Meunier
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];813880

To be fair, the well-documented part mostly comes from several
discussions of the issue on the Yahoogroups E2k list.  A problem doesn't
have to be documented in a qarticle to exist, after all.


-Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Posted At: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:45 AM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: EDB Size ?
 Subject: RE: EDB Size ?
 
 
 All jokes aside about this topic... what do you mean 
 well-documented inaccuracies?  Is there something in a KB doc 
 that talks about this?
 
 Alex
 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:07 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 What are white space, and inherent and well-documented 
 inaccuracies in reported mailbox sizes, Alex?
 
 I'll take Sino-Korean Open Relays for $500, Alex.
 
 -tom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:50 PM Posted To: 
 MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: EDB Size ?
 Subject: EDB Size ?
 
 
 Does anyone know why our edb size would be 50GB but when you 
 export all of the users and their mailbox sizes to an Excel 
 spreadsheet and add all the sizes of the mailboxes I only get 
 16GB?  We are EX2000 SP3.
 
 Alex 

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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Richard Dann
Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent as it
appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to avoid the
interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the exclusion
on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent shouldn't need
configuration to exclude drives, that is something done when specifying a
backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an issue (the basic backup
agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what they
found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a cause not
related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
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Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It
does not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M:
drive, especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K
SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange
files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was
allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I
set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

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RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
It seems that if all mail comes initially through the BSD box, then that's
where the AV should occur.  I realize that it's not necessarily your box or
jurisdiction, but it seems negligent of the staff who manage that box to not
have any AV protection.  

Mayhaps you can ask someone here to send along a few virussesisses to your
users to illustrate the point if you are unable to convince them... ;)

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Ok Im getting tired and its late and I've been here at work 
 since 8:00am.  I'm going to try one more time to clear this up. 
 Campus email servers are OpenBSD something or other.  They 
 forward mail to my exchange server via SMTP. (not the problem)
 Users inside my firewall that don't use my exchange server 
 get their mail from the main campus OpenBSD email server via 
 POP. (the problem) Therefore bypassing my ability to strip 
 there harmful attachments.  
 
 Matt
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: deji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:16 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?
 
 
 Then in this case I would say it does not matter whether they 
 POP, PIP, or personally imbibe it, IF your exchange server's 
 AV signature doesn't catch the Virus, the client will get it.
 
 All the mails go through your Exchange server. Concentrate 
 your efforts on making your AV work better on the server, and 
 stop worrying about a non-issue.
 
 HTH
 
 Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
 www.akomolafe.com
 www.iyaburo.com
 Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were 
 worried about Yesterday?  -anon
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Matt Plahtinsky
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:35 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?
 
 The reason I asked the original question is because I work at 
 a .EDU All mail goes to a [EMAIL PROTECTED] address on a 
 central campus server. From there people either have their 
 mail forwarded to their department mail server like 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my exchange server) address or 
 use POP to down load their mail from the campus server.  I 
 have been trying to get management to force everyone to go 
 through my exchange server so my firewall can strip all those 
 bad attachment types.  As it is a virus can sneak into my 
 network with an attachment through POP.  All my anti-virus 
 software is set to update daily but if a new virus is able to 
 make it in via POP before my anti-virus software updates.  
 BAM  lots and lots of work :(
 
 Matt
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:32 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?
 
 
 I think the original question must have related to POPing out 
 for personal mail, because otherwise the normal attachment 
 stripping would occur. Clearly if you're just popping into 
 your regular Exchange mailbox, you're just as protected from 
 viruses as you are accessing it any other way.
 
 -Peter
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 14:04
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?
 
 
 Allowing employees to POP personal mail?  Hmmm I didn't see 
 that in the question but it's als a bad idea...
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:46 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  I believe the question here was specifically whether to 
 allow internal 
  POP clients to pull their mail (personal, presumably) from
  outside sources.  To
  that, I would agree it is a very poor idea to allow that.
 
  As to whether to allow POP usage from outside, I would also 
 agree that
 
  allowing it is a poor idea, but there are ways to make it 
 not so poor.
 
  Even though it is primative, POP is still a protocol that 
 is necessary
 
  for clients running on non-Windows platforms.  You can configure 
  Exchange 2000 to support only POP with SSL, somewhat reducing the 
  vulnerability, or, better yet, allow it only through a VPN. 
  Still, I 
  would be encouraging such
  users to try to use IMAP instead, but it is not without its
  risks as well.
 
  Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
  Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
  Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
  Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:09 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?
 
 
  Mmmm.  Man hours.
 
  Presumably since you are posting to an Exchange list, you 
 are running 
  Exchange.  If you just want a POP server you have wasted your money.
 
  If remote access is an issue, set up OWA.  If 

RE: Outlook 11

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
Sigh.  

I don't want to pull a Precht and act as the list mommy, but I hope you two
don't turn this into a pointless 800 message thread consisting of just the
two of you.  

Please don't.

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 June 2003 11:32
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook 11
 
 
 Me?
 
 Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 IT Manager
 Sanderson Townend  Gilbert
 22-24 Grey Street
 Newcastle upon Tyne
 NE1 6AD
 Direct dial: 0191 269 0110
 Mobile: 07976 234165
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Etie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 June 2003 04:40
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook 11
 
 
 Who wouldn't?
 

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RE: Outlook 11

2003-06-13 Thread John Etie
Doesn't count, you won't do anything.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 11


Me?

Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IT Manager
Sanderson Townend  Gilbert
22-24 Grey Street
Newcastle upon Tyne
NE1 6AD
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Mobile: 07976 234165
 


-Original Message-
From: John Etie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 June 2003 04:40
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 11


Who wouldn't?

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 11


They skip 13.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Etie
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

That's one long outlook.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook 11


One and the same.

Outlook10 = Outlook2002.
Outlook9=Outlook2000

Outlook12=Outlook2006


- Original Message - 
From: Pham, Tuan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:15 AM
Subject: Outlook 11


Sorry I have to ask, what is Outlook 11?  Is that outlook 2003?  Thnx!

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RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd

2003-06-13 Thread Walt Brannon
#3 My bag ripped again.

Walt

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Posted At: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:11 PM
 Posted To: Exchange Discussion
 Conversation: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd
 Subject: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd
 
 10 Is an 8-node Active Exchange 2003 cluster supported under VMWare
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 Windows XP ? - one attendee joking
 
 
 
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Re: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
#2: Where the hell is the Arena?

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Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Ronk
All I have a question about the installation of a windows 2000 server that
will be my new exchange server in a Windows 2003 forest. Before I do a
dcpromo on this box to join it to the 2003 forest and domain do I need to
run any ADprep tools so that the schema and all is updated to the new 2003
schema ? Or can I just do a dcpromo and let the server take its course. I
know I have to do forestprep when I install exchange but am not sure if I
need to prepare the 2000 server before I bring it into AD. Any help is
appreciated.
Thanks In Advance
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RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd

2003-06-13 Thread Mark Rotman
Now #2 really made me laugh!!! 
That was so TRUE!

Nice job Andy

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RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd

2003-06-13 Thread Bob Sadler
I didn't get to attend because of the Kansas Budget Crisis, but I can
still bet that the #1 thing overheard was:'

Where's the Beer?



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Now #2 really made me laugh!!! 
That was so TRUE!

Nice job Andy

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RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd

2003-06-13 Thread Van Hooser, Chuck
It's the big round room Andy.



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RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
Do you like gladiator films? 

 
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 It's the big round room Andy.
 
 
 
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 #3 My bag ripped again.
 
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Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Scott Force
I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL.  I have a
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Re: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Either.

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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Hutchins, Mike
In the ether? 


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Either.

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 I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL.  I have
a
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or
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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
Both will work.  What you get with a third party cert is the assertion that
the server to which your clients are connecting is truly part of your domain
(i.e. traffic isn't being hijacked to a rogue server in order to steal
passwords, etc.)

With a cert from a homegrown server, your users will always get a message
when they connect to your OWA server that the cert cannot be verified.  The
server is effectively saying give me your password, please.  You can trust
me because I say I can be trusted.  Here's proof that I generated that says I
can be trusted.  Users can be trained to ignore the cert error.  

In my opinion it's not as clean of an implementation and the $700 for a third
party cert is justified.


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 I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL. 
  I have a
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How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread John Strongosky
We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange server 5.5 sp4 nt
6a running owa and every time we have to take one server offline owa hangs
for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet article that I
found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...

john
San Diego Community College Email Administrator

PSS ID Number: 263890
Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002

The information in this article applies to:

*   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
*   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5

This article was previously published under Q263890 
SYMPTOMS
If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web Access (OWA) and
one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops responding (or hangs)
for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible server and also
the users that are trying to log on to the other servers until the attempt
to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 

RESOLUTION
This behavior is by design. 

MORE INFORMATION
OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
kbZNotKeyword2 


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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-13 Thread Hutchins, Mike
On a side note, how about those ihatespam shirts? :-) 


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Thanks Bob...this is exactly why I would never install a 3rd party
product on the e2k server itself

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Look out for this if you UN install GFI Mail Essentials:
http://kbase.gfi.com/showarticle.asp?id=KBID001683

Bob
Sunbelt Software

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Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Interesting Bill,  I haven't experienced these problem during my eval.
I'm evaling using GFI MailEssentials 8 in a gateway type setting which
receives then relays mail to my e2k sp3 server.  My relay machine is a
.net server configured as a standalone.  I've found no messages in my
badmail folder and testing sending to distribution lists have proved
successful.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people
were having trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied
from that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little
different. All email sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to
badmail. Anything sent to a distribution list from Outlook Express or
any other exchange client works fine. It is very strange. I contacted
GFI, and they said this is a known issue. Have you tried to contact them
about this problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi
mail essentials 8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not
distributed but ends up in the badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr
files always read 'error is processing file in pickup directory', no
other error code or number is visible. The mails in question do have
valid 'from:' and 'to:' addresses. Since all I found on this topic is
with regard to using cdonts and therefore (presumeably) not applicable
in this case, this is beyond me. Since I am quite new to this whole
business, please bear with me if I forgot to include necessary
information and just let me know. I'll try to post everything that's
needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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RE: SpamBelt

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka

Thanks for the response, Stu.  

I'd like to add something.  There are some other staff at my company who got
the same message I refer to below (mentioning the IHS product, and requesting
them to stop by at the MecEd conference).  These people did *not* attend
MecEd and should *not* have been on a list of people who were registered to
do so.  Yet they got this spam.  Why is that?

As to the response from David Cragg:  If it smells like a duck then it is a
duck.  

How would any right minded email administrator be expected to react to a
message with a throwaway address as a reply-to?  This tactic of using
several domains in the headers, from/reply-to addresses, etc. is the exact
same tactic that a chickenboner spammer uses.  Why use them?  

Stu, your company's credibility as a whitehat supplier of anti-spam products
is seriously on the line.  From a spam recipient's or victim's perspective,
what is the difference between your product and the way in which the ad was
delivered vs. any of the chickenboners who are also spamming for an antispam
solution?





 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 We admit that this looked like spam a lot. I actually
 called the people who sent it for us and complained.
 The company who own this database and emailed it for
 us are MSD2D, they have worked for years for Microsoft 
 building their trade show list and catalogs. That's why
 you are on their list.
 
 Here is included the answer from their Pres, who explained
 why it looks like this. 
 
 -
 In response to your email today I admit that it has the 
 appearance of Spam. We apologize for that. We usually send 
 these type of announcements with our reply address but it 
 was a last minute mailer and we had already use our regular 
 mail box for our weekly Security newsletter. It was important 
 that we get that notice out to people who we thought might be 
 attending Tech-Ed as Sunbelt was accidentally left out of a 
 proper position in the Microsoft Exchange Directory. 
 David Cragg
 President
 -
 
 Understandably you assumed it was spam, with a juno address
 as the sender. Turns out this -is- what they use for their
 returns. An unfortunate choice to say the least. Hope this
 clarifies the situation.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Stu
 
 ***
 Stu Sjouwerman - Founder, Chief Operating Off.
 Sunbelt Software, # 409 in the Inc. 500 List ~
 Editor W2Knews: 500,000 readers every week.
 Publisher WinXPnews, 2Million subscribers
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Voice: 1-727-562-0101 x218 or (888) NT UTILS
 Fax:   1-727-562-5199 or (877) 736-3444
 Web: http://www.sunbelt-software.com
 and: http://www.w2knews.com
 Snail Mail: 101 N Garden Ave, Suite 120
 Clearwater, FL, 33755
 *** 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 8:54 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SpamBelt
 
 
 Not quite.  
 I'm merely pointing out the difference here ;)
  
 If Tom's talking about the same message I got today, it was targeted
 to TechEd attendees, and not to any and every @$$hole who has ever
 browsed Sunbelt's website (i.e. their normal targeted audience).
  
 Of course, Sunbelt's messages in this case can still be construed as
 being vaguely requested (I get a boatload of junk from MEC/TechEd
 vendors) - it is assumed that all MEC/TechEd vendors get the list of
 attendees.  
  
 The question remains why Sunbelt chose this particular message to look
 extremely spammy (See Tom's note re: roving.com and juno).
  
 
   -Original Message- 
   From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Thu 29-May-03 6:13 PM 
   To: Exchange Discussions 
   Cc: 
   Subject: RE: SpamBelt
   
   
 
   Not only that, but since lots of us asked to be on the mailing
 list of
   Sunbelt.com it's not spam because we opted to have them send
 us that kind of
   stuff.
   
   Scott
   
 
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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

2003-06-13 Thread Ely, Don
Overheard at TechEd from a non-MS Weasel...

Exchange 2003 RC1 is more stable than Exchange 2000 SP3

HP will back that sentiment up as well...

Think of Exchange 2003 as a patch to Exchange 2000 as Exchange 5.5 was for
Exchange 5.0... 


-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.

Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow OWA
to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for everyone; or
so they say.

I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year, let
everyone else work out the bugs :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003




 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Good morning,
 
 Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants
 to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 
 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and 
 Exchange 5.5.
 
 How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for
 2004.  Help!!!

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to
figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a
lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow
links?

Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it
makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and
upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this.

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RE: GFI MailEssentials

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Depends on who was wearing them.

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


On a side note, how about those ihatespam shirts? :-) 


-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Thanks Bob...this is exactly why I would never install a 3rd party product
on the e2k server itself

-Original Message-
From: Bob Jiantonio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Look out for this if you UN install GFI Mail Essentials:
http://kbase.gfi.com/showarticle.asp?id=KBID001683

Bob
Sunbelt Software

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Interesting Bill,  I haven't experienced these problem during my eval. I'm
evaling using GFI MailEssentials 8 in a gateway type setting which receives
then relays mail to my e2k sp3 server.  My relay machine is a .net server
configured as a standalone.  I've found no messages in my badmail folder and
testing sending to distribution lists have proved successful.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people
were having trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied from
that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little different.
All email sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to badmail.
Anything sent to a distribution list from Outlook Express or any other
exchange client works fine. It is very strange. I contacted GFI, and they
said this is a known issue. Have you tried to contact them about this
problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi mail
essentials 8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not distributed
but ends up in the badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr files always read
'error is processing file in pickup directory', no other error code or
number is visible. The mails in question do have valid 'from:' and 'to:'
addresses. Since all I found on this topic is with regard to using cdonts
and therefore (presumeably) not applicable in this case, this is beyond me.
Since I am quite new to this whole business, please bear with me if I forgot
to include necessary information and just let me know. I'll try to post
everything that's needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to Exchange 2000
or 2003.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange server 5.5 sp4 nt
6a running owa and every time we have to take one server offline owa hangs
for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet article that I
found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...

john
San Diego Community College Email Administrator

PSS ID Number: 263890
Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002

The information in this article applies to:

*   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
*   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5

This article was previously published under Q263890 
SYMPTOMS
If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web Access (OWA) and
one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops responding (or hangs)
for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible server and also
the users that are trying to log on to the other servers until the attempt
to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 

RESOLUTION
This behavior is by design. 

MORE INFORMATION
OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
kbZNotKeyword2 


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RE: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
You don't need to do anything until you want to install Exchange 2000, at
which point you must run the usual setup /forestprep and setup /domainprep.
Actually, I've seen it recommended that you run update /forestprep and
update /domainprep from the Exchange 2000 SP3 CD.  I don't believe you need
to run adprep unless you're installing Exchange 2003 in a Windows 2000
forest.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronk
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest


All I have a question about the installation of a windows 2000 server that
will be my new exchange server in a Windows 2003 forest. Before I do a
dcpromo on this box to join it to the 2003 forest and domain do I need to
run any ADprep tools so that the schema and all is updated to the new 2003
schema ? Or can I just do a dcpromo and let the server take its course. I
know I have to do forestprep when I install exchange but am not sure if I
need to prepare the 2000 server before I bring it into AD. Any help is
appreciated. Thanks In Advance Ronk

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RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Okay, so now I understand.  But I don't see how you have any choice here
since the mail to which you are referring doesn't ever pass through your
Exchange Server.  If you're asking whether it should, and your users should
be allowed to pull it using POP from outside locations, then, given the
limitations in your environment, I'd say it's probably the lesser of two
evils to allow it.  That is, if they can already get into the central Unix
mail server and pull using POP from the outside, what's the added risk of
exposing your server to the same thing?  You could force the use of SSL so
that an intruder will attack the easier central mail server target
(presuming they allow non-SSL access to POP).

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!™


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Plahtinsky
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


Ok Im getting tired and its late and I've been here at work since 8:00am.
I'm going to try one more time to clear this up. 
Campus email servers are OpenBSD something or other.  They forward mail to
my exchange server via SMTP. (not the problem) Users inside my firewall that
don't use my exchange server get their mail from the main campus OpenBSD
email server via POP. (the problem) Therefore bypassing my ability to strip
there harmful attachments.  

Matt




-Original Message-
From: deji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


Then in this case I would say it does not matter whether they POP, PIP, or
personally imbibe it, IF your exchange server's AV signature doesn't catch
the Virus, the client will get it.

All the mails go through your Exchange server. Concentrate your efforts on
making your AV work better on the server, and stop worrying about a
non-issue.

HTH

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
www.akomolafe.com
www.iyaburo.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Plahtinsky
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

The reason I asked the original question is because I work at a .EDU All
mail goes to a [EMAIL PROTECTED] address on a central campus server. From
there people either have their mail forwarded to their department mail
server like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my exchange server) address or use
POP to down load their mail from the campus server.  I have been trying to
get management to force everyone to go through my exchange server so my
firewall can strip all those bad attachment types.  As it is a virus can
sneak into my network with an attachment through POP.  All my anti-virus
software is set to update daily but if a new virus is able to make it in via
POP before my anti-virus software updates.  BAM  lots and lots of work
:(

Matt




-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


I think the original question must have related to POPing out for personal
mail, because otherwise the normal attachment stripping would occur. Clearly
if you're just popping into your regular Exchange mailbox, you're just as
protected from viruses as you are accessing it any other way.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 14:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


Allowing employees to POP personal mail?  Hmmm I didn't see that in the
question but it's als a bad idea...


 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:46 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 I believe the question here was specifically whether to allow internal
 POP clients to pull their mail (personal, presumably) from
 outside sources.  To
 that, I would agree it is a very poor idea to allow that.

 As to whether to allow POP usage from outside, I would also agree that

 allowing it is a poor idea, but there are ways to make it not so poor.

 Even though it is primative, POP is still a protocol that is necessary

 for clients running on non-Windows platforms.  You can configure
 Exchange 2000 to support only POP with SSL, somewhat reducing the 
 vulnerability, or, better yet, allow it only through a VPN.  Still, I 
 would be encouraging such
 users to try to use IMAP instead, but it is not without its
 risks as well.

 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
 Sent: Thursday, 

RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue to
bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent as it
appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to avoid the
interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the exclusion
on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent shouldn't need
configuration to exclude drives, that is something done when specifying a
backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an issue (the basic backup
agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what they
found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a cause not
related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It does
not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M: drive,
especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

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RE: remote mail options

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
I am not sure about SBS but standard Exchange supports POP and IMAP (which I
would recommend above POP) clients, but do realize that neither supports
full Outlook function.  Just set them up.  Refer to the FAQ referenced below
for information on how to set up authentication.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: remote mail options


We have Exchange 2000 and use OWA (SBS2000). Is there any way to setup
Outlook to access exchage info remotely. Such as a POP type connection? If a
computer is connected to an NT Domain (the remote office) and then connects
to the SBS2000 server via VPN, can I then just plug in the exchange server
info in Outlook? I know you cannot connect another Domain to SBS2000 but was
wounder if there is a better way to access email from a small remote
office.

Thanks!

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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Neil Hobson
More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue
to bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent
as it appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to
avoid the interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the
exclusion on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent
shouldn't need configuration to exclude drives, that is something done
when specifying a backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an
issue (the basic backup agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what
they found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a
cause not related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It
does not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M:
drive, especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K
SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange
files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was
allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I
set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

 Telenor Business Solutions, a division of international telecoms
organisation Telenor, is a leading European Communications Service
Provider.
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RE: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Ronk
Thanks Ed you have confirmed my thoughts about this. I have had another
admin from another site tell me that you don't want to install AD on the
exchange server, but my anwser to him was why do we have AD if you aren't
going to use it.
Thanks Much
Ronk

 You don't need to do anything until you want to install Exchange 2000, =
 at
 which point you must run the usual setup /forestprep and setup =
 /domainprep.
 Actually, I've seen it recommended that you run update /forestprep and
 update /domainprep from the Exchange 2000 SP3 CD.  I don't believe you =
 need
 to run adprep unless you're installing Exchange 2003 in a Windows 2000
 forest.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronk
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest
 
 
 All I have a question about the installation of a windows 2000 server =
 that
 will be my new exchange server in a Windows 2003 forest. Before I do a
 dcpromo on this box to join it to the 2003 forest and domain do I need =
 to
 run any ADprep tools so that the schema and all is updated to the new =
 2003
 schema ? Or can I just do a dcpromo and let the server take its course. =
 I
 know I have to do forestprep when I install exchange but am not sure if =
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FW: SpamBelt

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
Forwarded to the list at Stu's request: 


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From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Erik Sojka; Exchange Discussions
Cc: Mailing company CC addresses deleted
Importance: High

Eric,

You are ABSOLUTELY right, and I'm asking David to send
an apology to the same list with an explanation. Up to
now they have not answered my insistent requests. I'm
getting very unhappy with their non-communication, and
if this goes on, we will have to resort to other means.

Thanks for the feedback,

Stu



-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
Subject: RE: SpamBelt



Thanks for the response, Stu.  

I'd like to add something.  There are some other staff at my company who
got the same message I refer to below (mentioning the IHS product, and
requesting them to stop by at the MecEd conference).  These people did
*not* attend MecEd and should *not* have been on a list of people who
were registered to do so.  Yet they got this spam.  Why is that?

As to the response from David Cragg:  If it smells like a duck then it
is a duck.  

How would any right minded email administrator be expected to react to a
message with a throwaway address as a reply-to?  This tactic of using
several domains in the headers, from/reply-to addresses, etc. is the
exact same tactic that a chickenboner spammer uses.  Why use them?  

Stu, your company's credibility as a whitehat supplier of anti-spam
products is seriously on the line.  From a spam recipient's or victim's
perspective, what is the difference between your product and the way in
which the ad was delivered vs. any of the chickenboners who are also
spamming for an antispam solution?





 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 We admit that this looked like spam a lot. I actually
 called the people who sent it for us and complained.
 The company who own this database and emailed it for
 us are MSD2D, they have worked for years for Microsoft
 building their trade show list and catalogs. That's why
 you are on their list.
 
 Here is included the answer from their Pres, who explained why it 
 looks like this.
 
 -
 In response to your email today I admit that it has the
 appearance of Spam. We apologize for that. We usually send 
 these type of announcements with our reply address but it 
 was a last minute mailer and we had already use our regular 
 mail box for our weekly Security newsletter. It was important 
 that we get that notice out to people who we thought might be 
 attending Tech-Ed as Sunbelt was accidentally left out of a 
 proper position in the Microsoft Exchange Directory. 
 David Cragg
 President
 -
 
 Understandably you assumed it was spam, with a juno address as the 
 sender. Turns out this -is- what they use for their returns. An 
 unfortunate choice to say the least. Hope this clarifies the 
 situation.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Stu
 
 ***
 Stu Sjouwerman - Founder, Chief Operating Off.
 Sunbelt Software, # 409 in the Inc. 500 List ~
 Editor W2Knews: 500,000 readers every week.
 Publisher WinXPnews, 2Million subscribers
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Voice: 1-727-562-0101 x218 or (888) NT UTILS
 Fax:   1-727-562-5199 or (877) 736-3444
 Web: http://www.sunbelt-software.com
 and: http://www.w2knews.com
 Snail Mail: 101 N Garden Ave, Suite 120
 Clearwater, FL, 33755
 ***
 
 

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RE: SpamBelt

2003-06-13 Thread William Lefkovics
Spam-by-proxy is still spam. 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Importance: High

Forwarded to the list at Stu's request: 


-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Erik Sojka; Exchange Discussions
Cc: Mailing company CC addresses deleted
Importance: High

Eric,

You are ABSOLUTELY right, and I'm asking David to send an apology to the
same list with an explanation. Up to now they have not answered my insistent
requests. I'm getting very unhappy with their non-communication, and if this
goes on, we will have to resort to other means.

Thanks for the feedback,

Stu



-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
Subject: RE: SpamBelt



Thanks for the response, Stu.  

I'd like to add something.  There are some other staff at my company who
got the same message I refer to below (mentioning the IHS product, and
requesting them to stop by at the MecEd conference).  These people did
*not* attend MecEd and should *not* have been on a list of people who
were registered to do so.  Yet they got this spam.  Why is that?

As to the response from David Cragg:  If it smells like a duck then it
is a duck.  

How would any right minded email administrator be expected to react to a
message with a throwaway address as a reply-to?  This tactic of using
several domains in the headers, from/reply-to addresses, etc. is the
exact same tactic that a chickenboner spammer uses.  Why use them?  

Stu, your company's credibility as a whitehat supplier of anti-spam
products is seriously on the line.  From a spam recipient's or victim's
perspective, what is the difference between your product and the way in
which the ad was delivered vs. any of the chickenboners who are also
spamming for an antispam solution?





 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 We admit that this looked like spam a lot. I actually
 called the people who sent it for us and complained.
 The company who own this database and emailed it for
 us are MSD2D, they have worked for years for Microsoft
 building their trade show list and catalogs. That's why
 you are on their list.
 
 Here is included the answer from their Pres, who explained why it 
 looks like this.
 
 -
 In response to your email today I admit that it has the
 appearance of Spam. We apologize for that. We usually send 
 these type of announcements with our reply address but it 
 was a last minute mailer and we had already use our regular 
 mail box for our weekly Security newsletter. It was important 
 that we get that notice out to people who we thought might be 
 attending Tech-Ed as Sunbelt was accidentally left out of a 
 proper position in the Microsoft Exchange Directory. 
 David Cragg
 President
 -
 
 Understandably you assumed it was spam, with a juno address as the 
 sender. Turns out this -is- what they use for their returns. An 
 unfortunate choice to say the least. Hope this clarifies the 
 situation.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Stu


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RE: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Well, if you're planning to install Exchange 2000 in a Windows 2003 domain
you cannot install it on a domain controller.  There are two good reasons,
in my opinion, to avoid installing Exchange on a domain controller.  First,
it complicates disaster recovery because there will be extra steps in
getting AD back running on the machine.  Second, performance will suffer
when the machine is heavily loaded, a disadvantage that doesn't really apply
if your server is overpowered.

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Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronk
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest


Thanks Ed you have confirmed my thoughts about this. I have had another
admin from another site tell me that you don't want to install AD on the
exchange server, but my anwser to him was why do we have AD if you aren't
going to use it. Thanks Much Ronk

 You don't need to do anything until you want to install Exchange 2000, 
 = at which point you must run the usual setup /forestprep and setup =
 /domainprep.
 Actually, I've seen it recommended that you run update /forestprep and
 update /domainprep from the Exchange 2000 SP3 CD.  I don't believe you =
 need
 to run adprep unless you're installing Exchange 2003 in a Windows 2000
 forest.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronk
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest
 
 
 All I have a question about the installation of a windows 2000 server 
 = that will be my new exchange server in a Windows 2003 forest. Before 
 I do a dcpromo on this box to join it to the 2003 forest and domain do 
 I need = to
 run any ADprep tools so that the schema and all is updated to the new =
 2003
 schema ? Or can I just do a dcpromo and let the server take its course. =
 I
 know I have to do forestprep when I install exchange but am not sure if =
 I
 need to prepare the 2000 server before I bring it into AD. Any help is
 appreciated. Thanks In Advance Ronk
 
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RE: SpamBelt

2003-06-13 Thread Christopher Hummert
Agreed

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William
Lefkovics
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SpamBelt


Spam-by-proxy is still spam. 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Importance: High

Forwarded to the list at Stu's request: 


-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:26 AM
To: Erik Sojka; Exchange Discussions
Cc: Mailing company CC addresses deleted
Importance: High

Eric,

You are ABSOLUTELY right, and I'm asking David to send an apology to the
same list with an explanation. Up to now they have not answered my
insistent requests. I'm getting very unhappy with their
non-communication, and if this goes on, we will have to resort to other
means.

Thanks for the feedback,

Stu



-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
Subject: RE: SpamBelt



Thanks for the response, Stu.  

I'd like to add something.  There are some other staff at my company who
got the same message I refer to below (mentioning the IHS product, and
requesting them to stop by at the MecEd conference).  These people did
*not* attend MecEd and should *not* have been on a list of people who
were registered to do so.  Yet they got this spam.  Why is that?

As to the response from David Cragg:  If it smells like a duck then it
is a duck.  

How would any right minded email administrator be expected to react to a
message with a throwaway address as a reply-to?  This tactic of using
several domains in the headers, from/reply-to addresses, etc. is the
exact same tactic that a chickenboner spammer uses.  Why use them?  

Stu, your company's credibility as a whitehat supplier of anti-spam
products is seriously on the line.  From a spam recipient's or victim's
perspective, what is the difference between your product and the way in
which the ad was delivered vs. any of the chickenboners who are also
spamming for an antispam solution?





 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:38 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Cc: Stu Sjouwerman
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 We admit that this looked like spam a lot. I actually
 called the people who sent it for us and complained.
 The company who own this database and emailed it for
 us are MSD2D, they have worked for years for Microsoft building their 
 trade show list and catalogs. That's why you are on their list.
 
 Here is included the answer from their Pres, who explained why it
 looks like this.
 
 -
 In response to your email today I admit that it has the appearance of

 Spam. We apologize for that. We usually send these type of 
 announcements with our reply address but it was a last minute mailer 
 and we had already use our regular mail box for our weekly Security 
 newsletter. It was important that we get that notice out to people who

 we thought might be attending Tech-Ed as Sunbelt was accidentally left

 out of a proper position in the Microsoft Exchange Directory. 
 David Cragg
 President
 -
 
 Understandably you assumed it was spam, with a juno address as the
 sender. Turns out this -is- what they use for their returns. An 
 unfortunate choice to say the least. Hope this clarifies the 
 situation.
 
 Warm regards,
 
 Stu


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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread John Strongosky
Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the situation. There has
to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody know why this
is by design? It does not make sense to me.

john


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to Exchange 2000
or 2003.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange server 5.5 sp4 nt
6a running owa and every time we have to take one server offline owa hangs
for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet article that I
found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...

john
San Diego Community College Email Administrator

PSS ID Number: 263890
Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002

The information in this article applies to:

*   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
*   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5

This article was previously published under Q263890 
SYMPTOMS
If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web Access (OWA) and
one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops responding (or hangs)
for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible server and also
the users that are trying to log on to the other servers until the attempt
to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 

RESOLUTION
This behavior is by design. 

MORE INFORMATION
OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ken Cornetet
Does this break OWA? OWA seems to use M:

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue
to bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent
as it appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to
avoid the interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the
exclusion on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent
shouldn't need configuration to exclude drives, that is something done
when specifying a backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an
issue (the basic backup agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what
they found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a
cause not related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

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Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It
does not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M:
drive, especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K
SP3 machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non
Exchange files I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if
the AV was allowed to scan the M drive all sorts of things started
locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I
set it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

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RE: EDB Size ?

2003-06-13 Thread William Lefkovics
2 weeks is a long time.  I prefer to release my vowels daily. 


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Make sure Mr. Sojka sends a cashier's check, not a personal check. The
personal check would require being held for 2 weeks prior to releasing the
vowel into his posession.

Roger
--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


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 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:31 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: EDB Size ?
 
 
 Yes.  Send me a check for $250.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
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RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

2003-06-13 Thread Nick Field
Hi Matt,
If I am reading this right, the OpenBSD servers selectively (dependant upon
account) forward some of the mail to your Exchange system and retain the
rest for POP collection?
The users with POP email programs then bypass any perimeter security you
have implemented by collecting direct from the OpenBSD server that has not
stripped attachments.
All users that can communicate with the Exchange system do so, and by doing
so only collect mail that has had sensitive attachments stripped.
If this is the case, why not do the following:-

Create accounts for all your users on your Exchange system and arrange for
all mail to be forwarded by SMTP. Close POP at the firewall to prevent
abuse.
To allow those users that 'must' continue to use POP to collect their mail,
enable POP collection from your Exchange server.

The result is - You are fully protected, as all mail has attachments
stripped, and the users are happy as they have not had to change their
methods of mail retrieval.

Nick


-Original Message-
From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 June 2003 04:38
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

Ok Im getting tired and its late and I've been here at work since 8:00am.
I'm going to try one more time to clear this up. 
Campus email servers are OpenBSD something or other.  They forward mail to
my exchange server via SMTP. (not the problem)
Users inside my firewall that don't use my exchange server get their mail
from the main campus OpenBSD email server via POP. (the problem) Therefore
bypassing my ability to strip there harmful attachments.  

Matt




-Original Message-
From: deji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


Then in this case I would say it does not matter whether they POP, PIP, or
personally imbibe it, IF your exchange server's AV signature doesn't catch
the Virus, the client will get it.

All the mails go through your Exchange server. Concentrate your efforts on
making your AV work better on the server, and stop worrying about a
non-issue.

HTH

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE MCSA MCP+I
www.akomolafe.com
www.iyaburo.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Plahtinsky
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?

The reason I asked the original question is because I work at a .EDU All
mail goes to a [EMAIL PROTECTED] address on a central campus server. From
there people either have their mail forwarded to their department mail
server like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my exchange server) address or use
POP to down load their mail from the campus server.  I have been trying to
get management to force everyone to go through my exchange server so my
firewall can strip all those bad attachment types.  As it is a virus can
sneak into my network with an attachment through POP.  All my anti-virus
software is set to update daily but if a new virus is able to make it in via
POP before my anti-virus software updates.  BAM  lots and lots of work
:(

Matt




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From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


I think the original question must have related to POPing out for personal
mail, because otherwise the normal attachment stripping would occur. Clearly
if you're just popping into your regular Exchange mailbox, you're just as
protected from viruses as you are accessing it any other way.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 14:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


Allowing employees to POP personal mail?  Hmmm I didn't see that in the
question but it's als a bad idea...


 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:46 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 I believe the question here was specifically whether to allow internal 
 POP clients to pull their mail (personal, presumably) from
 outside sources.  To
 that, I would agree it is a very poor idea to allow that.

 As to whether to allow POP usage from outside, I would also agree that

 allowing it is a poor idea, but there are ways to make it not so poor.

 Even though it is primative, POP is still a protocol that is necessary

 for clients running on non-Windows platforms.  You can configure 
 Exchange 2000 to support only POP with SSL, somewhat reducing the 
 vulnerability, or, better yet, allow it only through a VPN.  Still, I 
 would be encouraging such
 users to try to use IMAP instead, but it is not without its
 risks as well.

 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and 

RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking Exchange servers
offline routinely.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the situation. There has
to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody know why this
is by design? It does not make sense to me.

john


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to Exchange 2000
or 2003.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange server 5.5 sp4 nt
6a running owa and every time we have to take one server offline owa hangs
for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet article that I
found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...

john
San Diego Community College Email Administrator

PSS ID Number: 263890
Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002

The information in this article applies to:

*   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
*   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5

This article was previously published under Q263890 
SYMPTOMS
If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web Access (OWA) and
one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops responding (or hangs)
for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible server and also
the users that are trying to log on to the other servers until the attempt
to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 

RESOLUTION
This behavior is by design. 

MORE INFORMATION
OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
kbZNotKeyword2 


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Cannot find Pub.edb but only oldPub.edb

2003-06-13 Thread Lukunku, Jean-Claude
I have a strange situation.  The Public Store has disappeared from my
server.  The only reference to the database is oldpub.edb.  I notice this
when I try to run Performance Optimizer to move my databases to the new
drives that I have just installed on the server.  I do not have any data in
the Public Folder.  Also, when I click on my server name in MS Exchange
administrator, I can only see Private Information Store, the Public
Information Store is not listed.  My server is working fine.  But I cannot
run Performance Optimizer.  Any ideas.

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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Exchange 5.5 OWA is really MAPI, as I recall, the M: showing in IIS isn't
important.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Does this break OWA? OWA seems to use M:

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue to
bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent as it
appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to avoid the
interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the exclusion
on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent shouldn't need
configuration to exclude drives, that is something done when specifying a
backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an issue (the basic backup
agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what they
found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a cause not
related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It does
not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M: drive,
especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

 Telenor Business Solutions, a division of international telecoms
organisation Telenor, is a leading European Communications Service Provider.
For further information, visit http://www.telenorbusinesssolutions.co.uk. 

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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
OWA doesn't know that another Exchange server is unavailable until it tries
to connect to it (i.e. whan a user tries to logon).  Like any other client
process, it will attempt to find and communicate with the server, and wait a
certain amount of time until either the connection is made or times out.
Maybe OWA could produce better error messages or have a please wait while I
try to log you on... screen, but they don't.   

 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
 situation. There has
 to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
 know why this
 is by design? It does not make sense to me.
 
 john
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
 Exchange 2000
 or 2003.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Strongosky
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
 server 5.5 sp4 nt
 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
 offline owa hangs
 for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
 article that I
 found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
 
 john
 San Diego Community College Email Administrator
 
 PSS ID Number: 263890
 Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
 
 The information in this article applies to:
 
 * Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
 * Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
 
 This article was previously published under Q263890 
 SYMPTOMS
 If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
 Access (OWA) and
 one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
 responding (or hangs)
 for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
 server and also
 the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
 until the attempt
 to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
 
 RESOLUTION
 This behavior is by design. 
 
 MORE INFORMATION
 OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
 synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
 authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
 Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
 Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
 kbZNotKeyword2 
 
 
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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ken Cornetet
I'm talking about OWA2k.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Exchange 5.5 OWA is really MAPI, as I recall, the M: showing in IIS
isn't important.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Does this break OWA? OWA seems to use M:

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue
to bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent
as it appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to
avoid the interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the
exclusion on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent
shouldn't need configuration to exclude drives, that is something done
when specifying a backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an
issue (the basic backup agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what
they found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a
cause not related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It
does not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M:
drive, especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K
SP3 machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non
Exchange files I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if
the AV was allowed to scan the M drive all sorts of things started
locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I
set it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

 Telenor Business Solutions, a division of international telecoms
organisation Telenor, is a leading European Communications Service
Provider. For further information, visit
http://www.telenorbusinesssolutions.co.uk. 

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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Paul Hutchings
FWIW we use Geotrust certs from rackshack.net - no idea how they can do it
but they're $39 and work just fine and do up to 128bit.  

As I see it certs do two things, encrypt, and prove you are who you claim to
be, and to me the extra that Verisign and the likes cost isn't worth it for
what you gain.

regards,
Paul
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 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 June 2003 15:32
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL
 
 
 I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL. 
  I have a
 stand alone 2000 server where IIS and OWA are installed in an NT 4.0
 domain.  Do I have to install Certificate Services on the 
 2000 server or
 can I use one from a third party (ie VeriSign) vendor?
 
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RE: Cannot find Pub.edb but only oldPub.edb

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Could it be related to the fact that the clock on the machine on which you
sent this message is over two years slow?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lukunku,
Jean-Claude
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Cannot find Pub.edb but only oldPub.edb


I have a strange situation.  The Public Store has disappeared from my
server.  The only reference to the database is oldpub.edb.  I notice this
when I try to run Performance Optimizer to move my databases to the new
drives that I have just installed on the server.  I do not have any data in
the Public Folder.  Also, when I click on my server name in MS Exchange
administrator, I can only see Private Information Store, the Public
Information Store is not listed.  My server is working fine.  But I cannot
run Performance Optimizer.  Any ideas.

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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread John Strongosky
I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they can upgrade
the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me that is at PacBell
(where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers go offline for
what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to wait till it
comes backup.

john

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking Exchange servers
offline routinely.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the situation. There has
to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody know why this
is by design? It does not make sense to me.

john


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to Exchange 2000
or 2003.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange server 5.5 sp4 nt
6a running owa and every time we have to take one server offline owa hangs
for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet article that I
found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...

john
San Diego Community College Email Administrator

PSS ID Number: 263890
Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002

The information in this article applies to:

*   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
*   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5

This article was previously published under Q263890 
SYMPTOMS
If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web Access (OWA) and
one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops responding (or hangs)
for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible server and also
the users that are trying to log on to the other servers until the attempt
to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 

RESOLUTION
This behavior is by design. 

MORE INFORMATION
OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
I don't know how a cert needs to cost more than $39, or even that much for
that matter.

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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hutchings
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL


FWIW we use Geotrust certs from rackshack.net - no idea how they can do it
but they're $39 and work just fine and do up to 128bit.  

As I see it certs do two things, encrypt, and prove you are who you claim to
be, and to me the extra that Verisign and the likes cost isn't worth it for
what you gain.

regards,
Paul
--
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Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 13 June 2003 15:32
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL
 
 
 I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL.
  I have a
 stand alone 2000 server where IIS and OWA are installed in an NT 4.0
 domain.  Do I have to install Certificate Services on the 
 2000 server or
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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread John Strongosky
Eric, thanks...so how do handle your users or do they just know that it will
be this way.

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


OWA doesn't know that another Exchange server is unavailable until it tries
to connect to it (i.e. whan a user tries to logon).  Like any other client
process, it will attempt to find and communicate with the server, and wait a
certain amount of time until either the connection is made or times out.
Maybe OWA could produce better error messages or have a please wait while I
try to log you on... screen, but they don't.   

 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
 situation. There has
 to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
 know why this
 is by design? It does not make sense to me.
 
 john
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
 Exchange 2000
 or 2003.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Strongosky
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
 server 5.5 sp4 nt
 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
 offline owa hangs
 for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
 article that I
 found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
 
 john
 San Diego Community College Email Administrator
 
 PSS ID Number: 263890
 Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
 
 The information in this article applies to:
 
 * Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
 * Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
 
 This article was previously published under Q263890 
 SYMPTOMS
 If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
 Access (OWA) and
 one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
 responding (or hangs)
 for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
 server and also
 the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
 until the attempt
 to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
 
 RESOLUTION
 This behavior is by design. 
 
 MORE INFORMATION
 OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
 synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
 authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
 Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
 Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
 kbZNotKeyword2 
 
 
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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
I don't want to speak for Ed but I understand him to say that normally,
servers shouldn't be disappearing during the times when user access them.  If
you must do maintenance on them such that the machines must be shut down, you
should do so during off hours or during a negotiated maintenance period
during which the users understand that services won't be available.  



 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:37 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they 
 can upgrade
 the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me 
 that is at PacBell
 (where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers 
 go offline for
 what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to 
 wait till it
 comes backup.
 
 john
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking 
 Exchange servers
 offline routinely.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Strongosky
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
 situation. There has
 to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
 know why this
 is by design? It does not make sense to me.
 
 john
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
 Exchange 2000
 or 2003.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Strongosky
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
 server 5.5 sp4 nt
 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
 offline owa hangs
 for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
 article that I
 found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
 
 john
 San Diego Community College Email Administrator
 
 PSS ID Number: 263890
 Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
 
 The information in this article applies to:
 
 * Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
 * Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
 
 This article was previously published under Q263890 
 SYMPTOMS
 If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
 Access (OWA) and
 one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
 responding (or hangs)
 for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
 server and also
 the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
 until the attempt
 to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
 
 RESOLUTION
 This behavior is by design. 
 
 MORE INFORMATION
 OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
 synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
 authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
 Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
 Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
 kbZNotKeyword2 
 
 
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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
I'm running Ex2K which doesn't have this issue, and I try to avoid downtime
and maintenance during times when the users will use the system (Our messages
are crossing, but check the other message I just sent) 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:39 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Eric, thanks...so how do handle your users or do they just 
 know that it will
 be this way.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:33 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 OWA doesn't know that another Exchange server is unavailable 
 until it tries
 to connect to it (i.e. whan a user tries to logon).  Like any 
 other client
 process, it will attempt to find and communicate with the 
 server, and wait a
 certain amount of time until either the connection is made or 
 times out.
 Maybe OWA could produce better error messages or have a 
 please wait while I
 try to log you on... screen, but they don't.   
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:25 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
  situation. There has
  to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
  know why this
  is by design? It does not make sense to me.
  
  john
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
  
  
  You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
  Exchange 2000
  or 2003.
  
  Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
  Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
  Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
  Strongosky
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
  
  
  We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
  server 5.5 sp4 nt
  6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
  offline owa hangs
  for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
  article that I
  found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
  
  john
  San Diego Community College Email Administrator
  
  PSS ID Number: 263890
  Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
  
  The information in this article applies to:
  
  *   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
  *   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
  
  This article was previously published under Q263890 
  SYMPTOMS
  If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
  Access (OWA) and
  one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
  responding (or hangs)
  for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
  server and also
  the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
  until the attempt
  to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
  
  RESOLUTION
  This behavior is by design. 
  
  MORE INFORMATION
  OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
  synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
  authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
  Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
  Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
  kbZNotKeyword2 
  
  
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RE: Ghost of 5.5 KMS

2003-06-13 Thread Richard Dann
Rick,

Thanks for that. I did indeed find a reference to the old server in that
object. There is also a CA object in the same container which also had a
reference to the same server. As I recall the 5.5 clean up instructions said
to delete the raw CA object. Any idea whether I should de the same in 2K?

regards,
Richard Dann

 -Original Message-
 From: Clemens, Rick [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:35 PM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Ghost of 5.5 KMS
 
 I had the same problem and here is what we did to resolve it:
 
 Open ADSI Edit (Be Careful Here)
 
 Connect to Configuration Container
 
   cn = configuration
   cn = services
   cn = Microsoft Exchange
   cn = ORGNAME
   cn = Administrative Groups
   cn = SITENAME
   cn = Advanced
 Security
 
 With in the Advanced Security container is the Encryption Object.  Open
 the
 properties of this object and look at the KMServer attribute.  You will
 probably see a reference to your old Exchange 5.5 KMS server.  Clear this
 attribute in each Administrative Group. 
 
 
 Regards
 Rick Clemens
  
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 I've got two servers in an organisation/site, the first is 5.5 SP4 and the
 second is Exchange 2K SP3. The 5.5 server once had KMS installed. If I try
 reinstalling it I get an install failure so I've suspicions of something
 lurking. The KB articles for cleaning up failed installs have been applied
 so theoretically the server should be clean.
 
 I'm now trying to install KMS on the 2K system (which is intended to
 replace
 the 5.5 one) and its saying there is already a KMS in the site. This may
 be
 a replication problem or there may be something still referencing the dead
 KMS. Has anyone seen this before or does anyone know what the install
 program may be detecting?
 
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OT: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all items
in all folders older than a given date.

Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.

JC

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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Mark Nold
We use our own certs for OWA.  Since its just our employees hitting that
site (well lets say its our employees that should be hitting that site),
Im not so concerned that we are not endorsed by a 3rd party.  We
prefer to pay the $700 (to Verisign) for the cert and use it on our
truly public sites.

Hope that helps.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL.  I have a
stand alone 2000 server where IIS and OWA are installed in an NT 4.0
domain.  Do I have to install Certificate Services on the 2000 server or
can I use one from a third party (ie VeriSign) vendor?

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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?  What happens
when you click on the double-chevron at the bottom of the menu? 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the File menu
 that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and you could
 override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive 
 all items
 in all folders older than a given date.
 
 Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
 matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
 indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on the File
 menu, but I sure can't find it.
 
 JC
 
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Tools/Mailbox Cleanup

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:49 PM
Subject: OT: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all items
in all folders older than a given date.

Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.

JC

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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Ah yes.
There as well.

- Original Message - 
From: Erik Sojka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?  What happens
when you click on the double-chevron at the bottom of the menu?


 -Original Message-
 From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the File menu
 that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and you could
 override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive
 all items
 in all folders older than a given date.

 Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
 matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
 indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on the File
 menu, but I sure can't find it.

 JC

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RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Elmerick, Ralph H.
Is it possible to do the opposite and install Exchange 2003 in a Windows
2000 SP3 forest.

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Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
yes.

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 Is it possible to do the opposite and install Exchange 2003 in a Windows
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RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well. 


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Is it possible to do the opposite and install Exchange 2003 in a Windows
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RE: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Ronk, I think you're confused.

You MUST have AD in place and operational before you can install
Exchange.

The Exchange server does NOT need to be, nor should it be, installed on
a domain controller.

JC 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:11 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Thanks Ed you have confirmed my thoughts about this. I have 
 had another admin from another site tell me that you don't 
 want to install AD on the exchange server, but my anwser to 
 him was why do we have AD if you aren't going to use it.
 Thanks Much
 Ronk
 
  You don't need to do anything until you want to install 
 Exchange 2000, 
  = at which point you must run the usual setup /forestprep 
 and setup = 
  /domainprep.
  Actually, I've seen it recommended that you run update 
 /forestprep and 
  update /domainprep from the Exchange 2000 SP3 CD.  I don't 
 believe you 
  = need to run adprep unless you're installing Exchange 2003 in a 
  Windows 2000 forest.
  
  Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
  Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
  Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
  
  
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 6:58 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Exchange 2000 in a 2003 Server forest
  
  
  All I have a question about the installation of a windows 
 2000 server 
  = that will be my new exchange server in a Windows 2003 
 forest. Before 
  I do a dcpromo on this box to join it to the 2003 forest 
 and domain do 
  I need = to run any ADprep tools so that the schema and all 
 is updated 
  to the new =
  2003
  schema ? Or can I just do a dcpromo and let the server take its 
  course. = I know I have to do forestprep when I install 
 exchange but 
  am not sure if = I need to prepare the 2000 server before I 
 bring it 
  into AD. Any help is appreciated. Thanks In Advance Ronk
  
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RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Elmerick, Ralph H.
Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running Windows 2003 in a
Windows 2000 forest.

Ralph H. Elmerick
NT/Exchange Administrator
330-471-3409


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Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well. 


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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:

New -
Open -
Close All Items
-
Save As
Save Attachments -
-
Folder -
-
Data File Management
-
Page Setup -
Print Preview
Print
-
Exit

JC


 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled? 
  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the 
 bottom of the menu? 
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the 
 File menu 
  that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and 
 you could 
  override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all 
  items in all folders older than a given date.
  
  Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no 
  matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to 
  indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on 
 the File 
  menu, but I sure can't find it.
  
  JC
  
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RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Yes. 


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running Windows 2003 in a
Windows 2000 forest.

Ralph H. Elmerick
NT/Exchange Administrator
330-471-3409


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From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well. 


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To: Exchange Discussions

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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?  Are you in the
main OL window and not looking at the File menu that you get when a message
is open? 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
 
 New -
 Open -
 Close All Items
 -
 Save As
 Save Attachments -
 -
 Folder -
 -
 Data File Management
 -
 Page Setup -
 Print Preview
 Print
 -
 Exit
 
 JC
 
 
  
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  From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled? 
   What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the 
  bottom of the menu? 
  
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   
   Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the 
  File menu 
   that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and 
  you could 
   override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all 
   items in all folders older than a given date.
   
   Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive 
 command, no 
   matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 
 help seems to 
   indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on 
  the File 
   menu, but I sure can't find it.
   
   JC
   
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Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Yes.
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/ti/TiWin2003.doc


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From: Elmerick, Ralph H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


 Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running Windows 2003 in a
 Windows 2000 forest.

 Ralph H. Elmerick
 NT/Exchange Administrator
 330-471-3409


 -Original Message-
 From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:00 PM
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 Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


 Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well.


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 From: Elmerick, Ralph H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:59 PM
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 Is it possible to do the opposite and install Exchange 2003 in a Windows
 2000 SP3 forest.

 Ralph H. Elmerick
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Close the open message you are looking at.
You're looking at the wrong toolbar.



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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:

New -
Open -
Close All Items
-
Save As
Save Attachments -
-
Folder -
-
Data File Management
-
Page Setup -
Print Preview
Print
-
Exit

JC



 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
 bottom of the menu?

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
 File menu
  that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
 you could
  override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all
  items in all folders older than a given date.
 
  Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
  matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
  indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
 the File
  menu, but I sure can't find it.
 
  JC
 
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Woodruff, Michael
The open message toolbar doesn't have data file management. 


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Close the open message you are looking at.
You're looking at the wrong toolbar.



- Original Message -
From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:

New -
Open -
Close All Items
-
Save As
Save Attachments -
-
Folder -
-
Data File Management
-
Page Setup -
Print Preview
Print
-
Exit

JC



 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
 bottom of the menu?

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
 File menu
  that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
 you could
  override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all
  items in all folders older than a given date.
 
  Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
  matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
  indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
 the File
  menu, but I sure can't find it.
 
  JC
 
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Doh. lol.
I just did the reverse.

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


The open message toolbar doesn't have data file management.


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Close the open message you are looking at.
You're looking at the wrong toolbar.



- Original Message -
From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:

New -
Open -
Close All Items
-
Save As
Save Attachments -
-
Folder -
-
Data File Management
-
Page Setup -
Print Preview
Print
-
Exit

JC



 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
  What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
 bottom of the menu?

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
 File menu
  that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
 you could
  override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all
  items in all folders older than a given date.
 
  Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
  matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 help seems to
  indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
 the File
  menu, but I sure can't find it.
 
  JC
 
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Dude, I'm not *that* big of a moron. Lol

JC 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Close the open message you are looking at.
 You're looking at the wrong toolbar.
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:11 PM
 Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?
 
 
 Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
 
 New -
 Open -
 Close All Items
 -
 Save As
 Save Attachments -
 -
 Folder -
 -
 Data File Management
 -
 Page Setup -
 Print Preview
 Print
 -
 Exit
 
 JC
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
   What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
  bottom of the menu?
 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
  
   Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
  File menu
   that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
  you could
   override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all
   items in all folders older than a given date.
  
   Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
   matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11 
 help seems to
   indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
  the File
   menu, but I sure can't find it.
  
   JC
  
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
I get hazy around this time every Friday.
I guess its my turn to buy a vowel.


- Original Message - 
From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Dude, I'm not *that* big of a moron. Lol

JC


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Close the open message you are looking at.
 You're looking at the wrong toolbar.



 - Original Message -
 From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:11 PM
 Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


 Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:

 New -
 Open -
 Close All Items
 -
 Save As
 Save Attachments -
 -
 Folder -
 -
 Data File Management
 -
 Page Setup -
 Print Preview
 Print
 -
 Exit

 JC


 
  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
   What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
  bottom of the menu?
 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
  
   Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
  File menu
   that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
  you could
   override folder-specific archive settings and instead archive all
   items in all folders older than a given date.
  
   Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive command, no
   matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
 help seems to
   indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
  the File
   menu, but I sure can't find it.
  
   JC
  
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?  
 Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File 
 menu that you get when a message is open? 
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
  
  New -
  Open -
  Close All Items
  -
  Save As
  Save Attachments -
  -
  Folder -
  -
  Data File Management
  -
  Page Setup -
  Print Preview
  Print
  -
  Exit
  
  JC
  
  
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   
   It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled? 
What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the 
 bottom of 
   the menu?
   

-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
   File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
   you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead 
 archive all 
items in all folders older than a given date.

Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
  command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
  help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
   the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.

JC


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RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

2003-06-13 Thread Mark Nold
Thanks for the input...something for me to investigate

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL

FWIW we use Geotrust certs from rackshack.net - no idea how they can do
it
but they're $39 and work just fine and do up to 128bit.  

As I see it certs do two things, encrypt, and prove you are who you
claim to
be, and to me the extra that Verisign and the likes cost isn't worth it
for
what you gain.

regards,
Paul
--
Paul Hutchings
Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
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 -Original Message-
 From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 13 June 2003 15:32
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Kinda OT: OWA and SSL
 
 
 I've setup OWA (5.5/6a) and I now want to secure it with SSL. 
  I have a
 stand alone 2000 server where IIS and OWA are installed in an NT 4.0
 domain.  Do I have to install Certificate Services on the 
 2000 server or
 can I use one from a third party (ie VeriSign) vendor?
 
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Woodruff, Michael
I don't remember during the custom install, but maybe the options have
changed?  I doubt it though.  I have a friend who is running the beta
also and every time he clicks on his deleted items folder it just says
items cannot be displayed. 


-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?  
 Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File menu that 
 you get when a message is open?
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
  
  New -
  Open -
  Close All Items
  -
  Save As
  Save Attachments -
  -
  Folder -
  -
  Data File Management
  -
  Page Setup -
  Print Preview
  Print
  -
  Exit
  
  JC
  
  
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   
   It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled? 
What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
 bottom of
   the menu?
   

-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
   File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
   you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead
 archive all
items in all folders older than a given date.

Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
  command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
  help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
   the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.

JC


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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and rebuild/reset the
toolbars?

- Original Message - 
From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC


 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
 Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
 menu that you get when a message is open?

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
 
  New -
  Open -
  Close All Items
  -
  Save As
  Save Attachments -
  -
  Folder -
  -
  Data File Management
  -
  Page Setup -
  Print Preview
  Print
  -
  Exit
 
  JC
 
 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
  
   It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
 bottom of
   the menu?
  
   
-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
   
Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
   File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
   you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead
 archive all
items in all folders older than a given date.
   
Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
  command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
  help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
   the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.
   
JC
   
   
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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
You assume incorrectly; PacBell, what the local phone company used to be
called, is my ISP.  As to your assertion about what I'm telling you, it's
not me telling you that, it's the KB article you cited telling you that.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they can upgrade
the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me that is at PacBell
(where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers go offline for
what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to wait till it
comes backup.

john

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking Exchange servers
offline routinely.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the situation. There has
to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody know why this
is by design? It does not make sense to me.

john


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to Exchange 2000
or 2003.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Strongosky
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange server 5.5 sp4 nt
6a running owa and every time we have to take one server offline owa hangs
for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet article that I
found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...

john
San Diego Community College Email Administrator

PSS ID Number: 263890
Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002

The information in this article applies to:

*   Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
*   Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5

This article was previously published under Q263890 
SYMPTOMS
If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web Access (OWA) and
one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops responding (or hangs)
for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible server and also
the users that are trying to log on to the other servers until the attempt
to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 

RESOLUTION
This behavior is by design. 

MORE INFORMATION
OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
kbZNotKeyword2 


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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Here, see for yourselves:

http://www.tyvin.com/files/clip.jpg

JC 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Clishe, Jason 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 No, no import/export command either (that's another thing 
 that's been bugging me)
 
 I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every 
 folder (Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same 
 options each time.
 And no Archive command.
 
 JC 
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  
  Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?  
  Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File menu that 
  you get when a message is open?
  
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   
   Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
   
   New -
   Open -
   Close All Items
   -
   Save As
   Save Attachments -
   -
   Folder -
   -
   Data File Management
   -
   Page Setup -
   Print Preview
   Print
   -
   Exit
   
   JC
   
   

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled? 
 What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
  bottom of
the menu?

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
File menu
 that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
you could
 override folder-specific archive settings and instead
  archive all
 items in all folders older than a given date.
 
 Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
   command, no
 matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
   help seems to
 indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
the File
 menu, but I sure can't find it.
 
 JC
 
 
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Dan Bartley
I think that only affects toolbars, not menus. However it brings up an
interesting question. If you go to Tools, Customize, Commands. Do you
see Archive and Import/Export as selections in the File category? If so,
drag them to a toolbar.

Bottom line though is this is beta 2. Things happen. There is a refresh
coming out any day for those who have beta 2.

Best Regards, 

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:34
To: Exchange Discussions

Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and rebuild/reset the
toolbars?

- Original Message - 
From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC


 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
 Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
 menu that you get when a message is open?

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
 
  New -
  Open -
  Close All Items
  -
  Save As
  Save Attachments -
  -
  Folder -
  -
  Data File Management
  -
  Page Setup -
  Print Preview
  Print
  -
  Exit
 
  JC
 
 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
  
   It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
 bottom of
   the menu?
  
   
-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
   
Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
   File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
   you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead
 archive all
items in all folders older than a given date.
   
Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
  command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
  help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
   the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.
   
JC
   
   
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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Same.

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I'm talking about OWA2k.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Exchange 5.5 OWA is really MAPI, as I recall, the M: showing in IIS isn't
important.

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
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Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Does this break OWA? OWA seems to use M:

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From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue to
bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent as it
appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to avoid the
interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the exclusion
on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent shouldn't need
configuration to exclude drives, that is something done when specifying a
backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an issue (the basic backup
agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what they
found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a cause not
related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It does
not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M: drive,
especially AV products.

David

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Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

 Telenor Business Solutions, a division of international telecoms
organisation Telenor, is a leading European Communications Service Provider.
For further information, visit http://www.telenorbusinesssolutions.co.uk. 

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RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting

2003-06-13 Thread Ed Crowley
Although the M: shows up in IIS, it isn't really used.  It's just there to
fill the field.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I'm talking about OWA2k.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Exchange 5.5 OWA is really MAPI, as I recall, the M: showing in IIS isn't
important.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Does this break OWA? OWA seems to use M:

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From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


More of a script than a reg hack...

It's a part of my standard E2k server build!

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=305145

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 13 June 2003 17:08
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: E2K machine services hanging on starting
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


There's a reg hack that will hide the M: and put that part of the issue to
bed for good.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Dann
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


Acknowledged that the M drive is special, can't say it is non existent as it
appears in the folder tree. The question is more about how to avoid the
interactions that cause the hanging behaviour. 

Knowing the mechanism of the lockup would be useful. Setting the exclusion
on an anti virus product should be easy, the backup agent shouldn't need
configuration to exclude drives, that is something done when specifying a
backup. This is why I suspect dependencies may be an issue (the basic backup
agent wouldn't know about Exchange).

If anyone has seen this behaviour it would be interesting to know what they
found. If it hasn't been seen then maybe I should be looking for a cause not
related to Exchange.

regards,
Richard Dann

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 June 2003 19:01
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K machine services hanging on starting


As I'm sure everyone will tell you shortly, there is no M: drive.  It does
not exist.  Make sure nothing tries to touch the non-existent M: drive,
especially AV products.

David

-Original Message-
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K machine services hanging on starting


I've got an Exchange 2000 SP3 machine running on a security hardened W2K SP3
machine. If I attempt to run an anti virus product on the non Exchange files
I've had problems with services hanging on starting (if the AV was allowed
to scan the M drive all sorts of things started locking up).

I've also tried installing a backup application (HP Omniback) to allow
backup to a large tape silo. this caused similar problems (SRS service
showed up as Starting, unable to start or stop other services) until I set
it to manual start and let everything else start first. 

Has anyone seen similar problems? Do I need to set a dependency for the
backup service or is there something more fundamental going on?

regards,
Richard Dann

 Telenor Business Solutions, a division of international telecoms
organisation Telenor, is a leading European Communications Service Provider.
For further information, visit http://www.telenorbusinesssolutions.co.uk. 

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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Clishe, Jason
Good call. I was able to add the Archive command to a toolbar from Tools
| Customize | Commands. Still would like to know WTF it isn't in my File
menu.

JC 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:34 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and 
 rebuild/reset the toolbars?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
 Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?
 
 
 No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
 bugging me)
 
 I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
 (Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
 And no Archive command.
 
 JC
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
  Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
  menu that you get when a message is open?
 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
  
   Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
  
   New -
   Open -
   Close All Items
   -
   Save As
   Save Attachments -
   -
   Folder -
   -
   Data File Management
   -
   Page Setup -
   Print Preview
   Print
   -
   Exit
  
   JC
  
  
   
-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
   
It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
 What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
  bottom of
the menu?
   

 -Original Message-
 From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
File menu
 that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
you could
 override folder-specific archive settings and instead
  archive all
 items in all folders older than a given date.

 Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
   command, no
 matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
   help seems to
 indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
the File
 menu, but I sure can't find it.

 JC


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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Isnt that what I just said? Rebuild/ Reset the Toolbar.


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From: Dan Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


I think that only affects toolbars, not menus. However it brings up an
interesting question. If you go to Tools, Customize, Commands. Do you
see Archive and Import/Export as selections in the File category? If so,
drag them to a toolbar.

Bottom line though is this is beta 2. Things happen. There is a refresh
coming out any day for those who have beta 2.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley

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From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:34
To: Exchange Discussions

Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and rebuild/reset the
toolbars?

- Original Message - 
From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC


 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
 Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
 menu that you get when a message is open?

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
 
  New -
  Open -
  Close All Items
  -
  Save As
  Save Attachments -
  -
  Folder -
  -
  Data File Management
  -
  Page Setup -
  Print Preview
  Print
  -
  Exit
 
  JC
 
 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
  
   It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
 bottom of
   the menu?
  
   
-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
   
Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
   File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
   you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead
 archive all
items in all folders older than a given date.
   
Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
  command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
  help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
   the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.
   
JC
   
   
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Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread William Lefkovics
Thank you Andy.

Sometimes with the numbers, I have to read it twice to make sure of what an
email says 2000 on 2003 in 2003?  2003 on 2000 in 2000?  etc,  but the
supported installation matrix in that document says it all.

That reference should be the answer to all these questions about which
Exchange server version goes on which platform in which AD version.

You rock.

William


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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


 Yes.
 http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/ti/TiWin2003.doc


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 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:08 PM
 Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


  Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running Windows 2003 in a
  Windows 2000 forest.
 
  Ralph H. Elmerick
  NT/Exchange Administrator
  330-471-3409
 
 
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  Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well.
 
 


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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
I havent see that.
I can however make Outlook crash on cue by simply trying to access the
Import and Export menu.

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From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Good call. I was able to add the Archive command to a toolbar from Tools
| Customize | Commands. Still would like to know WTF it isn't in my File
menu.

JC


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:34 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and
 rebuild/reset the toolbars?

 - Original Message -
 From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
 Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


 No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
 bugging me)

 I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
 (Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
 And no Archive command.

 JC

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
  Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
  menu that you get when a message is open?
 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
  
   Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
  
   New -
   Open -
   Close All Items
   -
   Save As
   Save Attachments -
   -
   Folder -
   -
   Data File Management
   -
   Page Setup -
   Print Preview
   Print
   -
   Exit
  
   JC
  
  
   
-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
   
It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
 What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
  bottom of
the menu?
   

 -Original Message-
 From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
File menu
 that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
you could
 override folder-specific archive settings and instead
  archive all
 items in all folders older than a given date.

 Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
   command, no
 matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
   help seems to
 indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
the File
 menu, but I sure can't find it.

 JC


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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Dan Bartley
Sure, but I was addressing what he said too. He was trying to find it in
the menu. He needed to add it to the toolbar, if available, as a work
around to it missing from the menu, not reset the toolbar. :-)

Best Regards, 

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:43
To: Exchange Discussions

Isnt that what I just said? Rebuild/ Reset the Toolbar.


- Original Message - 
From: Dan Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


I think that only affects toolbars, not menus. However it brings up an
interesting question. If you go to Tools, Customize, Commands. Do you
see Archive and Import/Export as selections in the File category? If so,
drag them to a toolbar.

Bottom line though is this is beta 2. Things happen. There is a refresh
coming out any day for those who have beta 2.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:34
To: Exchange Discussions

Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and rebuild/reset the
toolbars?

- Original Message - 
From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC


 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
 Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
 menu that you get when a message is open?

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
 
  New -
  Open -
  Close All Items
  -
  Save As
  Save Attachments -
  -
  Folder -
  -
  Data File Management
  -
  Page Setup -
  Print Preview
  Print
  -
  Exit
 
  JC
 
 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
  
   It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
 bottom of
   the menu?
  
   
-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
   
Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
   File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
   you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead
 archive all
items in all folders older than a given date.
   
Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
  command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
  help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
   the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.
   
JC
   
   
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Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
There are so many 2003's out there now, it makes your head spin!

- Original Message - 
From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


 Thank you Andy.

 Sometimes with the numbers, I have to read it twice to make sure of what
an
 email says 2000 on 2003 in 2003?  2003 on 2000 in 2000?  etc,  but the
 supported installation matrix in that document says it all.

 That reference should be the answer to all these questions about which
 Exchange server version goes on which platform in which AD version.

 You rock.

 William


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 From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:15 AM
 Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest


  Yes.
  http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/ti/TiWin2003.doc
 
 
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  From: Elmerick, Ralph H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:08 PM
  Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
 
 
   Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running Windows 2003 in a
   Windows 2000 forest.
  
   Ralph H. Elmerick
   NT/Exchange Administrator
   330-471-3409
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:00 PM
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   Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
  
  
   Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well.
  
  


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SMTP Addresses

2003-06-13 Thread Joshua R. Morgan
Windows 2000 SP3
Exchange 2000 SP3


How do I query my Exchange server to see what or who has a specific SMTP
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RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Dan Bartley
I saw this with an ATI video chip. Latest driver fixed it. Not all O11
menu items just certain ones.

Best Regards, 

Dan Bartley


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:59
To: Exchange Discussions

I havent see that.
I can however make Outlook crash on cue by simply trying to access the
Import and Export menu.

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From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Good call. I was able to add the Archive command to a toolbar from Tools
| Customize | Commands. Still would like to know WTF it isn't in my File
menu.

JC


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:34 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and
 rebuild/reset the toolbars?

 - Original Message -
 From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
 Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


 No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
 bugging me)

 I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
 (Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
 And no Archive command.

 JC

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
  Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
  menu that you get when a message is open?
 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
  
   Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
  
   New -
   Open -
   Close All Items
   -
   Save As
   Save Attachments -
   -
   Folder -
   -
   Data File Management
   -
   Page Setup -
   Print Preview
   Print
   -
   Exit
  
   JC
  
  
   
-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
   
It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
 What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
  bottom of
the menu?
   

 -Original Message-
 From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
File menu
 that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
you could
 override folder-specific archive settings and instead
  archive all
 items in all folders older than a given date.

 Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
   command, no
 matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
   help seems to
 indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
the File
 menu, but I sure can't find it.

 JC


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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread John Strongosky
I agree with Ed myself, and it happens that way here as we are a educational
institution and students come first. But its the idea that this has affected
all of the campus's not just one group and I know I'm going to hear about it
Monday( its the summer and allot of Professor's are on break). So I just
tell them to suck it up and live with it, that this is the way it was
designed. And they are going to ask me well how do other institution's
bigger than our self handle this and I say they just suck it up...ya
right...

john


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I don't want to speak for Ed but I understand him to say that normally,
servers shouldn't be disappearing during the times when user access them.
If
you must do maintenance on them such that the machines must be shut down,
you
should do so during off hours or during a negotiated maintenance period
during which the users understand that services won't be available.  



 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:37 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they 
 can upgrade
 the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me 
 that is at PacBell
 (where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers 
 go offline for
 what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to 
 wait till it
 comes backup.
 
 john
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking 
 Exchange servers
 offline routinely.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Strongosky
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
 situation. There has
 to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
 know why this
 is by design? It does not make sense to me.
 
 john
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
 Exchange 2000
 or 2003.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Strongosky
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
 server 5.5 sp4 nt
 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
 offline owa hangs
 for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
 article that I
 found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
 
 john
 San Diego Community College Email Administrator
 
 PSS ID Number: 263890
 Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
 
 The information in this article applies to:
 
 * Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
 * Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
 
 This article was previously published under Q263890 
 SYMPTOMS
 If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
 Access (OWA) and
 one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
 responding (or hangs)
 for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
 server and also
 the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
 until the attempt
 to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
 
 RESOLUTION
 This behavior is by design. 
 
 MORE INFORMATION
 OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
 synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
 authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
 Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
 Technology: kbExchange550 kbExchangeSearch kbOutlookSearch kbOWA550
 kbZNotKeyword2 
 
 
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RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest

2003-06-13 Thread Erik Sojka
Mine only goes to 11. 

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:10 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 There are so many 2003's out there now, it makes your head spin!
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: William Lefkovics [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:52 PM
 Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
 
 
  Thank you Andy.
 
  Sometimes with the numbers, I have to read it twice to make 
 sure of what
 an
  email says 2000 on 2003 in 2003?  2003 on 2000 in 2000? 
  etc,  but the
  supported installation matrix in that document says it all.
 
  That reference should be the answer to all these questions 
 about which
  Exchange server version goes on which platform in which AD version.
 
  You rock.
 
  William
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:15 AM
  Subject: Re: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
 
 
   Yes.
   http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/ti/TiWin2003.doc
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Elmerick, Ralph H. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:08 PM
   Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
  
  
Can the Exchange 2003 be running on a server running 
 Windows 2003 in a
Windows 2000 forest.
   
Ralph H. Elmerick
NT/Exchange Administrator
330-471-3409
   
   
-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 in a 2000 Server forest
   
   
Yes as long as all of your DCs and GCs are SP3 as well.
   
   
 
 
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Ahh. Yea, I didnt mean the actual rebuild button or whatever its called. I
was using it in the generic sense! :)

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Sure, but I was addressing what he said too. He was trying to find it in
the menu. He needed to add it to the toolbar, if available, as a work
around to it missing from the menu, not reset the toolbar. :-)

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:43
To: Exchange Discussions

Isnt that what I just said? Rebuild/ Reset the Toolbar.


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From: Dan Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


I think that only affects toolbars, not menus. However it brings up an
interesting question. If you go to Tools, Customize, Commands. Do you
see Archive and Import/Export as selections in the File category? If so,
drag them to a toolbar.

Bottom line though is this is beta 2. Things happen. There is a refresh
coming out any day for those who have beta 2.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:34
To: Exchange Discussions

Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and rebuild/reset the
toolbars?

- Original Message - 
From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
bugging me)

I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
(Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
And no Archive command.

JC


 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
 Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
 menu that you get when a message is open?

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
 
  New -
  Open -
  Close All Items
  -
  Save As
  Save Attachments -
  -
  Folder -
  -
  Data File Management
  -
  Page Setup -
  Print Preview
  Print
  -
  Exit
 
  JC
 
 
  
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   From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
  
   It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
 bottom of
   the menu?
  
   
-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
   
Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
   File menu
that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
   you could
override folder-specific archive settings and instead
 archive all
items in all folders older than a given date.
   
Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
  command, no
matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
  help seems to
indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
   the File
menu, but I sure can't find it.
   
JC
   
   
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Re: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
Interesting.
I'll try that.

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


I saw this with an ATI video chip. Latest driver fixed it. Not all O11
menu items just certain ones.

Best Regards,

Dan Bartley


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 13:59
To: Exchange Discussions

I havent see that.
I can however make Outlook crash on cue by simply trying to access the
Import and Export menu.

- Original Message - 
From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


Good call. I was able to add the Archive command to a toolbar from Tools
| Customize | Commands. Still would like to know WTF it isn't in my File
menu.

JC


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:34 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Can you add those choices from Tools/Customize and
 rebuild/reset the toolbars?

 - Original Message -
 From: Clishe, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM
 Subject: RE: Outlook 11: Where's the archive command?


 No, no import/export command either (that's another thing that's been
 bugging me)

 I'm in the main OL window, and I've been doing from every folder
 (Contacts, Inbox, OL Today, etc) and I get the same options each time.
 And no Archive command.

 JC

 
  -Original Message-
  From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:15 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
 
  Something's missing.  Do you have an import/export command?
  Are you in the main OL window and not looking at the File
  menu that you get when a message is open?
 
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:12 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
  
   Nope, no Adaptive menu's. My File menu reads:
  
   New -
   Open -
   Close All Items
   -
   Save As
   Save Attachments -
   -
   Folder -
   -
   Data File Management
   -
   Page Setup -
   Print Preview
   Print
   -
   Exit
  
   JC
  
  
   
-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
   
It's under my File menu.  Do you have Adaptive menus enabled?
 What happens when you click on the double-chevron at the
  bottom of
the menu?
   

 -Original Message-
 From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:50 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 Previous versions of Outlook had an Archive command on the
File menu
 that would allow you to initiate an immediate archive, and
you could
 override folder-specific archive settings and instead
  archive all
 items in all folders older than a given date.

 Where'd that go? My File menu does not have an Archive
   command, no
 matter which folder I happen to be in. The Outlook 11
   help seems to
 indicate that there should in fact be an Archive command on
the File
 menu, but I sure can't find it.

 JC


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RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd

2003-06-13 Thread Slinger, Gary
Yeah, that was me... 


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I didn't get to attend because of the Kansas Budget Crisis, but I can still
bet that the #1 thing overheard was:'

Where's the Beer?



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:07 AM
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Subject: RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd


Now #2 really made me laugh!!! 
That was so TRUE!

Nice job Andy

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
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#2: Where the hell is the Arena?

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#3 My bag ripped again.

Walt

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 Subject: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd

 10 Is an 8-node Active Exchange 2003 cluster supported under VMWare
on
 Windows XP ? - one attendee joking



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Reply to: issues

2003-06-13 Thread John Parker
Hello Group.

I have an inconsistent issue.

Sometimes, when one replies to an Email sent from my Domain, it will reply to the 
display name. i.e.
John Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED] my ndr's show that it is trying to reply to John Doe 
instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am at a loss as to why this is happening.

Any help?


John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

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Be excellent to each other
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Subject: SMTP Addresses


Windows 2000 SP3
Exchange 2000 SP3


How do I query my Exchange server to see what or who has a specific SMTP
Address







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RE: 2000 Admin

2003-06-13 Thread JimM
Does anyone know the solution to this?  If Im a domain admin how can I get
Full Exchange 2000 admin privs? 

Thanks
Jim


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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:18 PM
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Subject: RE: 2000 Admin


Yup I'm a Domain Admin.  Can I change it to grant Exchange administrative
access to all
domain admins?  If so do you recall the name/location of the setting?  

Thanks
Jim

-Original Message-
From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: 2000 Admin


Jim,

if this is an AD DC and you are the administrator of the local machine, then
you are possibly a domain admin (since the local machine doesnt actually
have a local security database, its the DC).  Same for local groups, it wont
have any.

Domain Admins are denied access to mailboxes, and a deny overrides any other
setting, so that could be the problem.

Glenn


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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:55 AM
Subject: 2000 Admin


 I have Exchange 2000 running on a Win2k Server that is also the Active 
 Directory Domain controller.  I was the admin of the server but I can 
 no longer administer Exchange for some reason.  I checked the Exchange 
 Administration Delegation Wizard but it says I'm an Exchange Full 
 Administrator.  I deleted and re-added my self but I still cannot 
 open/administrate other mailboxes.  The Delegation wizard does say to
verify
 I am also an administrator of the local machine but this is a domain 
 controller and I cannot access local groups on it and I do not recall 
 do that previously.  Anyone have a hint as to what I'm missing?


 Jim

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Re: 2000 Admin

2003-06-13 Thread Andy David
You mean access to all the mailboxes?

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B262054


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 Does anyone know the solution to this?  If Im a domain admin how can I get
 Full Exchange 2000 admin privs?

 Thanks
 Jim





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RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.

2003-06-13 Thread Mark Rotman
Just to throw in a few cents that might not help:

Could you schedule a stop services on the owa server when you take the server offline? 
This doesn't solve much, but at least gives you control over the restart and limits 
the down period. Especially if your routine maintenance is changed to say weekly and 
occurs at a off-peak period for a limited time. Then at least everything is automated 
and comes back up on its own.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:59 PM
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Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I agree with Ed myself, and it happens that way here as we are a educational
institution and students come first. But its the idea that this has affected
all of the campus's not just one group and I know I'm going to hear about it
Monday( its the summer and allot of Professor's are on break). So I just
tell them to suck it up and live with it, that this is the way it was
designed. And they are going to ask me well how do other institution's
bigger than our self handle this and I say they just suck it up...ya
right...

john


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.


I don't want to speak for Ed but I understand him to say that normally,
servers shouldn't be disappearing during the times when user access them.
If
you must do maintenance on them such that the machines must be shut down,
you
should do so during off hours or during a negotiated maintenance period
during which the users understand that services won't be available.  



 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Strongosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 12:37 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 I didn't say routinely, and I don't, but we've had to so they 
 can upgrade
 the power at one of the campus's. So what your telling me 
 that is at PacBell
 (where I'm assuming you work)when one of the exchange servers 
 go offline for
 what ever reason then users who are using owa just have to 
 wait till it
 comes backup.
 
 john
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:31 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 I just gave you two.  Frankly, you shouldn't be taking 
 Exchange servers
 offline routinely.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Strongosky
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:25 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 Thanks for the reply Ed, so this is how you handle the 
 situation. There has
 to be a work around...or am I being to hopeful.. Does anybody 
 know why this
 is by design? It does not make sense to me.
 
 john
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:58 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 You could (1) not take servers offline, and/or (2) upgrade to 
 Exchange 2000
 or 2003.
 
 Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
 Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
 Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
 Strongosky
 Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 7:43 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: How do You guys/gals handle this: OWA Hanging.
 
 
 We have 9 exchange 5.5 sp4 nt4 6a servers and 1 exchange 
 server 5.5 sp4 nt
 6a running owa and every time we have to take one server 
 offline owa hangs
 for us. How are you all handling this? Below is the technet 
 article that I
 found that says this is by design. I don't believe it...
 
 john
 San Diego Community College Email Administrator
 
 PSS ID Number: 263890
 Article Last Modified on 10/22/2002
 
 The information in this article applies to:
 
 * Microsoft Outlook Web Access 5.5 
 * Microsoft Exchange Server 5.5
 
 This article was previously published under Q263890 
 SYMPTOMS
 If multiple Exchange Server computers service Outlook Web 
 Access (OWA) and
 one of those servers becomes inaccessible, OWA stops 
 responding (or hangs)
 for the users that are trying to log on to the inaccessible 
 server and also
 the users that are trying to log on to the other servers 
 until the attempt
 to log on to the inaccessible server times out. 
 
 RESOLUTION
 This behavior is by design. 
 
 MORE INFORMATION
 OWA also stops responding when the Microsoft Windows NT domain is
 synchronized. During this replication process no OWA users are
 authenticated, which causes OWA to stop responding. 
 Keywords: kbprb KB263890 
 Technology: kbExchange550 

RE: 2000 Admin

2003-06-13 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Maybe you shouldn't

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:49 PM
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Subject: RE: 2000 Admin


Does anyone know the solution to this?  If Im a domain admin how can I get
Full Exchange 2000 admin privs? 

Thanks
Jim


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 2000 Admin


Yup I'm a Domain Admin.  Can I change it to grant Exchange administrative
access to all
domain admins?  If so do you recall the name/location of the setting?  

Thanks
Jim

-Original Message-
From: Glenn Corbett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: 2000 Admin


Jim,

if this is an AD DC and you are the administrator of the local machine, then
you are possibly a domain admin (since the local machine doesnt actually
have a local security database, its the DC).  Same for local groups, it wont
have any.

Domain Admins are denied access to mailboxes, and a deny overrides any other
setting, so that could be the problem.

Glenn


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:55 AM
Subject: 2000 Admin


 I have Exchange 2000 running on a Win2k Server that is also the Active 
 Directory Domain controller.  I was the admin of the server but I can 
 no longer administer Exchange for some reason.  I checked the Exchange 
 Administration Delegation Wizard but it says I'm an Exchange Full 
 Administrator.  I deleted and re-added my self but I still cannot 
 open/administrate other mailboxes.  The Delegation wizard does say to
verify
 I am also an administrator of the local machine but this is a domain 
 controller and I cannot access local groups on it and I do not recall 
 do that previously.  Anyone have a hint as to what I'm missing?


 Jim

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RE: SMTP Addresses

2003-06-13 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
CSVDE.exe or LDIFDE.exe will help you. Dump AD to a text file and then
search it.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SMTP Addresses


Windows 2000 SP3
Exchange 2000 SP3


How do I query my Exchange server to see what or who has a specific SMTP
Address







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