RE: Upgrade 2000 to 2003

2003-10-23 Thread Neil Hobson
In the Front-End Toplogy guide whitepaper from Microsoft on Exchange
*2000*, that's the recommended approach. 

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 21 October 2003 22:25
Posted To: Swynk Exchange (30 days)
Conversation: Upgrade 2000 to 2003
Subject: RE: Upgrade 2000 to 2003


I just got out from Exchange 2003 Server training and our instructor
told us that Microsoft has changed their position about putting Front
End servers in DMZ areas.  They are now recommending that put all Front
 Back end servers in your local network then use Proxy solutions to
have your Front End servers to talk to outside of your network.

Brian

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Ellis
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 7:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Upgrade 2000 to 2003

Can I please have comments on the following plan?

The current setup:

EX01, an Exchange 2000 Enterprise edition server sits on our LAN.  In
our DMZ we have MIS01, a Mobile Information Server 2002 server. (both
these servers are member servers in the AD)

Also in our DMZ, we have a workgroup win2k server which acts as our SMTP
gateway for Exchange.

Users access OWA on EX01 by connecting to our firewall using https, and
the firewall NATs that through to EX01.

All of that works fine.


The plan:

Taking advantage of our Software Assurance, upgrade EX01 to Exchange
2003 enterprise edition.

Buy a license for Exchange 2003 Standard edition, and install that on
MIS01, configure as front end server for OWA, connecting to mailboxes on
EX01

Re-jig so MIS01 is also acting as our SMTP gateway, probably retaining
the workgroup server as a backup MX

MIS functionality (serversync, OMA, etc) is included in Ex2003, so we
don't need MIS2002 anymore.



Thanks in advance.


Regards,

Rob Ellis
IT Manager
Samsara Group plc
Tel 023 9224 7979
Mob 07974 111867
MCP BEng(hons)



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Exchange security issue

2003-10-23 Thread Cabezas, Manuel
Exchange 2000 Enterprise SP3

Hi all,

I've developed an ASP application to arrange meetings for some of our
domain users (salesmen/saleswomen) through a Web page.

This application runs under a privileged user's security context, and it
uses MAPI objects (Session, Folder, Messages, Appointment, etc.) to
connect to our Exchange Server 2000, retrieve users' calendars and
create a page to render a combined calendar (showing combined
availability).

In order to allow accessing to other people's calendars, I had to grant
total access permissions to the users' mailboxes for the user running
the application. Otherwise, I received an error executing the
GetDefaultFolder(CdoDefaultFolderCalendar) instruction. The error
message was: Collaboration Data Objects (0x505). You do not have
permission to log on. [Microsoft Exchange Server Information Store -
[MAPI_E_FAILONEPROVIDER(8004011D)].

Is it possible to configure a different set of permission parameters to
allow access to other people's calendars without allowing full control
to those user's mailboxes?

Before using MAPI objects, I tried using the ExOLEDB provider and it
worked fine. All I had to do is to add the privileged user, with a
publication editor profile, to the user list located on security tab
of the calendar properties configuration window.

Nevertheless, I had to migrate to MAPI objects because the ExOLEDB
provider isn't able to access a remote Exchange Server, and my
application will run on a dedicated Web Server.

Can anybody help me?.

TIA

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How to send on behalf for an external Domain?

2003-10-23 Thread Michel Fayad
Hi,

We have Exchange 2000 configured to send and receive mail for our Domain
(e.a. microsoft.com)
A user in our company wants to be able to send email using a different
Domain name (e.a. msn.com)

Is there a way to configure Outlook/Exchange 2000 to give only this user
permission to send on behalf this external email address?

Hope anybody can help me with this issue.

Best Regards,

Michel Fayad

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RE: Disappearing email

2003-10-23 Thread Jason Clishe
True, but again...we're only talking about an occasional message
disappearing. If something were POPing, it would take all the messages
from the Inbox.

Jason 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackstone
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disappearing email

Force a password change on all of them. If something is POPing it, that
will stop it. 

-Original Message-
From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disappearing email

I agree with what you're saying, which is why I didn't spend too much
time worrying about it at first. But considering that 4 or 5 other
people started having the same problem, all within a few days of each
other, it raises suspicions that maybe it isn't something with the
client.

JC 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
[MVP]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Disappearing email

Could be (1) another machine logged in to the account with delivery set
to a PST, (2) a rule that moves the mail somewhere else or deletes it,
(3) a view or a filter that somehow hides the message, such as one that
shows only unread messages, so when she clicks on it it disappears from
view.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Clishe
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disappearing email

Exchange 2000 SP4

I've got a user (Outlook 2000) that, beginning last week, claims to have
had some email disappear on her. In one instance, she said she saw an
email come into her Inbox, then saw it disappear within a second, before
she had a chance to open it.

I didn't really spend anytime looking at it; I was busy and told her
that she must have a rule or a filter gone wacky on her. But now I'm
starting to receive similar reports from other users. In fact, one of
the users just came on board with us this week, got a brand new machine
with Outlook 2003, and is on a different server from the other users
having this issue (Exchange 2003). He swears he hasn't created any rules
or filters in Outlook (he's only been here 2 days, so he hasn't had much
time), and since his PC is brand new, I know there's nothing leftover on
it from previous users.
And, considering he's on our Exchange 2003 server, I can't even tie the
disappearing emails to a single server.

Any ideas?

Jason

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patch MS03-046 update clarification

2003-10-23 Thread Wohlgemuth, Mike
The way I read the update (ver 1.1) to this patch (for my scenario,
W2K/SP4, EX2K/SP3) is I do not need to re-apply it, as the updated
version has only made changes to Exchange 5.5 part of the patch ...

(snippet from
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/secur
ity/bulletin/ms03-046.asp )

V1.0 October 15, 2003: First Published. 
V1.1 October 22, 2003: Removed unnecessary information from Deployment
in the Exchange Server 5.5 Service Pack 4 section of Security Patch
Information. 

Comments? Clarifications? 

mike

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RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification

2003-10-23 Thread Martin Blackstone
The patch was not redone. Just the wording of the alert. 

-Original Message-
From: Wohlgemuth, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: patch MS03-046 update clarification

The way I read the update (ver 1.1) to this patch (for my scenario, W2K/SP4,
EX2K/SP3) is I do not need to re-apply it, as the updated version has only
made changes to Exchange 5.5 part of the patch ...

(snippet from
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/secur
ity/bulletin/ms03-046.asp )

V1.0 October 15, 2003: First Published. 
V1.1 October 22, 2003: Removed unnecessary information from Deployment
in the Exchange Server 5.5 Service Pack 4 section of Security Patch
Information. 

Comments? Clarifications? 

mike

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RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification

2003-10-23 Thread Wohlgemuth, Mike
that is what I thought ... just making sure I didn't need new glasses 

thanks


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification


The patch was not redone. Just the wording of the alert. 

-Original Message-
From: Wohlgemuth, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: patch MS03-046 update clarification

The way I read the update (ver 1.1) to this patch (for my scenario,
W2K/SP4,
EX2K/SP3) is I do not need to re-apply it, as the updated version has
only made changes to Exchange 5.5 part of the patch ...

(snippet from
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/secur
ity/bulletin/ms03-046.asp )

V1.0 October 15, 2003: First Published. 
V1.1 October 22, 2003: Removed unnecessary information from Deployment
in the Exchange Server 5.5 Service Pack 4 section of Security Patch
Information. 

Comments? Clarifications? 

mike

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Password Mainenance

2003-10-23 Thread John Parker
Hey all, I am nearing a time when once again, I need to do a password change for my 
company.

Is there any password automation out there, that will allow me to setup a password 
structure, changes the passwords and give me a report of the new ones?

There has to be something out there like that...

Thanks

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.
Alpha Video

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RE: Password Mainenance

2003-10-23 Thread Ben Winzenz
What, you mean report what all the new passwords are to you?  Are you
out of your mind?  I sure hope you are kidding.  If you seriously want
to get a list of ALL passwords, why don't you go out and buy LophtCrack
- after all, what you are wanting is something to make you a hacker of
the company you work for.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:47 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Disappearing email
Subject: Password Mainenance


Hey all, I am nearing a time when once again, I need to do a password
change for my company.

Is there any password automation out there, that will allow me to setup
a password structure, changes the passwords and give me a report of the
new ones?

There has to be something out there like that...

Thanks

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.
Alpha Video

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Sending email via a batch file

2003-10-23 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
We have a developer that is trying to find a way to send email via a
batch file.  Does anyone know if this is possible and what the code is
that he should use?  It will be sent to our SMTP server and then out
from there.  We tried echoing a telnet session but we cannot figure out
how to do a return command.  If you know of something different please
let me know.  We are trying to stay away from buying anything third
party.

Thanks


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RE: Password Mainenance

2003-10-23 Thread John Parker
No.

We have always manually created the passwords in the past and kept a list.
Doesn't make me a hacker of any sort.
The company is getting so big, Just looking for a way of automating it yet maintaining 
a password structure.
I am one person managing two departments and too many servers and sorkstations :)

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

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-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


What, you mean report what all the new passwords are to you?  Are you
out of your mind?  I sure hope you are kidding.  If you seriously want
to get a list of ALL passwords, why don't you go out and buy LophtCrack
- after all, what you are wanting is something to make you a hacker of
the company you work for.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:47 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Disappearing email
Subject: Password Mainenance


Hey all, I am nearing a time when once again, I need to do a password
change for my company.

Is there any password automation out there, that will allow me to setup
a password structure, changes the passwords and give me a report of the
new ones?

There has to be something out there like that...

Thanks

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.
Alpha Video

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RE: Sending email via a batch file

2003-10-23 Thread Woodruff, Michael
CDO with VB...

www.Cdolive.com 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending email via a batch file

We have a developer that is trying to find a way to send email via a
batch file.  Does anyone know if this is possible and what the code is
that he should use?  It will be sent to our SMTP server and then out
from there.  We tried echoing a telnet session but we cannot figure out
how to do a return command.  If you know of something different please
let me know.  We are trying to stay away from buying anything third
party.

Thanks


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RE: Calendar Items

2003-10-23 Thread mh exch
Thanks Ed this took care of the issue.

MH EXCH



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Calendar Items


In their Outlook, check Tools  Options  Preferences  Calendar Options 
Free/Busy Options  Publish X month(s) of Calendar free/busy information on
this server.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mh exch
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Calendar Items

I have had an issue come up on setting a meeting in the Outlook calendar, I
have selected the users that I want and beginning Dec 1st at 12:00 Am in to
the new year 2004 they have no information listed (i.e.
busy, out of office, tentative or busy) But I go to November or October and
all is fine. Anybody have any problems with this or ideas? Exchange
2000 sp 4,   Outlook Client 2000 sp 3 
Thanks in Advance






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RE: Sending email via a batch file

2003-10-23 Thread Dickenson, Steven
BLAT.

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending email via a batch file


We have a developer that is trying to find a way to send email via a
batch file.  Does anyone know if this is possible and what the code is
that he should use?  It will be sent to our SMTP server and then out
from there.  We tried echoing a telnet session but we cannot figure out
how to do a return command.  If you know of something different please
let me know.  We are trying to stay away from buying anything third
party.

Thanks


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RE: Sending email via a batch file

2003-10-23 Thread Martin Blackstone
You don't need Blat. Any person who calls themselves a developer should have
some knowledge of the different ways you can send mail with CDO. 

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file

BLAT.

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending email via a batch file


We have a developer that is trying to find a way to send email via a
batch file.  Does anyone know if this is possible and what the code is
that he should use?  It will be sent to our SMTP server and then out
from there.  We tried echoing a telnet session but we cannot figure out
how to do a return command.  If you know of something different please
let me know.  We are trying to stay away from buying anything third
party.

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RE: Password Mainenance

2003-10-23 Thread Steve Hanna
Ouch.,
 
 --steve


 -Original Message-
 From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Password Mainenance
 
 
 No.
 
 We have always manually created the passwords in the past and 
 kept a list.
 Doesn't make me a hacker of any sort.
 The company is getting so big, Just looking for a way of 
 automating it yet maintaining a password structure.
 I am one person managing two departments and too many servers 
 and sorkstations :)
 
 John Parker, MCSE
 IS Admin.
 Senior Technical Specialist
 Digital Display Systems.
 
 Alpha Video
 7711 Computer Ave.
 Edina, MN. 55435
  
 952-896-9898 Local
 800-388-0008 Watts
 952-896-9899 Fax
 612-804-8769 Cell
 952-841-3327 Direct
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Be excellent to each other
 ---End of Line---
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:40 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Password Mainenance
 
 
 What, you mean report what all the new passwords are to you?  Are you
 out of your mind?  I sure hope you are kidding.  If you seriously want
 to get a list of ALL passwords, why don't you go out and buy 
 LophtCrack
 - after all, what you are wanting is something to make you a hacker of
 the company you work for.
 
 
 Ben Winzenz
 Network Engineer
 Gardner  White
 (317) 581-1580 ext 418
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 7:47 AM
 Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
 Conversation: Disappearing email
 Subject: Password Mainenance
 
 
 Hey all, I am nearing a time when once again, I need to do a password
 change for my company.
 
 Is there any password automation out there, that will allow 
 me to setup
 a password structure, changes the passwords and give me a 
 report of the
 new ones?
 
 There has to be something out there like that...
 
 Thanks
 
 John Parker, MCSE
 IS Admin.
 Senior Technical Specialist
 Digital Display Systems.
 Alpha Video
 
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Re: How to send on behalf for an external Domain?

2003-10-23 Thread Tony Hlabse
Setup Outlook with another an alternate profile is one way but not sure what 
your trying accomplish. Is this for people that have outside accounts or 
just want to use outside email addy's to send from?

From: Michel Fayad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to send on behalf for an external Domain?
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:16:02 +0300
Hi,

We have Exchange 2000 configured to send and receive mail for our Domain
(e.a. microsoft.com)
A user in our company wants to be able to send email using a different
Domain name (e.a. msn.com)
Is there a way to configure Outlook/Exchange 2000 to give only this user
permission to send on behalf this external email address?
Hope anybody can help me with this issue.

Best Regards,

Michel Fayad

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RE: Sending email via a batch file

2003-10-23 Thread Michael Henry
AFAIK, You now must maintain the older CDO support files yourself, for
complete automatic use of CDO as it was first purposed.  The new ones
require user action in order to process an e-mail.  
AFAIK, If you use the new files, you must use a third party tools, to get
around the user action screen.

To make my apps M$ proof, I coded a SMTP mailer, very simular to BLAT.

Regards,  Michael

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file


You don't need Blat. Any person who calls themselves a developer should have
some knowledge of the different ways you can send mail with CDO. 

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file

BLAT.

Steven
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Network Administrator
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-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending email via a batch file


We have a developer that is trying to find a way to send email via a
batch file.  Does anyone know if this is possible and what the code is
that he should use?  It will be sent to our SMTP server and then out
from there.  We tried echoing a telnet session but we cannot figure out
how to do a return command.  If you know of something different please
let me know.  We are trying to stay away from buying anything third
party.

Thanks


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RE: Sending email via a batch file

2003-10-23 Thread Dickenson, Steven
I agree.  However, this person wanted to send e-mail from a batch file.  I
interpret that to mean .BAT or .CMD files, for which BLAT is well suited and
ready to go.

Steven
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Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file


You don't need Blat. Any person who calls themselves a developer should have
some knowledge of the different ways you can send mail with CDO. 

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file

BLAT.

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending email via a batch file


We have a developer that is trying to find a way to send email via a
batch file.  Does anyone know if this is possible and what the code is
that he should use?  It will be sent to our SMTP server and then out
from there.  We tried echoing a telnet session but we cannot figure out
how to do a return command.  If you know of something different please
let me know.  We are trying to stay away from buying anything third
party.

Thanks

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RE: C2C archiving software

2003-10-23 Thread Hurst, Paul
David,

Looked at this product but didn't like the idea of swapping my Priv database
over to a Pub database, just moves the problem around in Exchange. Legacy
Email I believe should be removed to improve Exchange times, but keep user
transparent access.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours


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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: C2C archiving software


Anybody using C2C Archive One for email archiving? I'd like to get some
opinions about this product.

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RE: Sending email via a batch file

2003-10-23 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Well, you could use batch files to call something else also. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson,
Steven
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file

I agree.  However, this person wanted to send e-mail from a batch file.
I interpret that to mean .BAT or .CMD files, for which BLAT is well
suited and ready to go.

Steven
---
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Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file


You don't need Blat. Any person who calls themselves a developer should
have some knowledge of the different ways you can send mail with CDO. 

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file

BLAT.

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The
Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending email via a batch file


We have a developer that is trying to find a way to send email via a
batch file.  Does anyone know if this is possible and what the code is
that he should use?  It will be sent to our SMTP server and then out
from there.  We tried echoing a telnet session but we cannot figure out
how to do a return command.  If you know of something different please
let me know.  We are trying to stay away from buying anything third
party.

Thanks

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RE: Password Mainenance

2003-10-23 Thread Ben Winzenz
Why is it necessary that you keep a list of all the passwords?  It is
one thing to have a list of service account passwords, and such, but all
users is quite another thing.  It is a HUGE security risk.  Imagine what
would happen if someone got ahold of the document that had everyones
passwords.  If you are using Exchange (valid assumption I think since
this is an Exchange list), then you are using either NT or Windows 2000.
Why can't you have your users manage their own passwords?  Every client
that logs in to the domain should have the ability to change their
password - even 9x clients can change their passwords.  This is not
something that you should be doing or should have to do - now of course
that is only my opinion and you are free to do as you like, but I would
rather choke myself than have to maintain all my users passwords for
them.  Does HR know that you maintain a list of everyone's password?
Does your corporate lawyer know?  If not, you better make sure they do.

I realize I am probably not being helpful to what you are wanting to do,
but I (and probably most of the others on this list) have never run
across a sysadmin who insisted on maintaining a list of all his/her
users passwords.  So if you like, simply dismiss this as a rant from me
- it won't hurt my feelings if you do.  I certainly wouldn't wish for
your job if I was required to do what you are doing.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:46 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Password Mainenance
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


No.

We have always manually created the passwords in the past and kept a
list.
Doesn't make me a hacker of any sort.
The company is getting so big, Just looking for a way of automating it
yet maintaining a password structure.
I am one person managing two departments and too many servers and
sorkstations :)

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


What, you mean report what all the new passwords are to you?  Are you
out of your mind?  I sure hope you are kidding.  If you seriously want
to get a list of ALL passwords, why don't you go out and buy LophtCrack
- after all, what you are wanting is something to make you a hacker of
the company you work for.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday,
October 23, 2003 7:47 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Disappearing email
Subject: Password Mainenance


Hey all, I am nearing a time when once again, I need to do a password
change for my company.

Is there any password automation out there, that will allow me to setup
a password structure, changes the passwords and give me a report of the
new ones?

There has to be something out there like that...

Thanks

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.
Alpha Video

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RE: Sending email via a batch file

2003-10-23 Thread King, John
http://www.infradig.com/postie/index.shtml

From the site :
The ultimate command-line mailer! Send and receive mail form the
command-line or execute from within virtually any program. Supports NNTP,
SMTP, ESMTP, MIME, BASE64 and UUENCODE for posting, and POP3, IMAP4, HTTP
protocols for receiving. Available for Windows and Unix. Can post HTML and
MHTML (embedded objects) messages.

I do believe there is a free exe for download.  I have used this for a set
of large batch scripts that generate emails.  Rock solid.

John

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file


Well, you could use batch files to call something else also. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson,
Steven
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file

I agree.  However, this person wanted to send e-mail from a batch file.
I interpret that to mean .BAT or .CMD files, for which BLAT is well
suited and ready to go.

Steven
---
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Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file


You don't need Blat. Any person who calls themselves a developer should
have some knowledge of the different ways you can send mail with CDO. 

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file

BLAT.

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The
Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending email via a batch file


We have a developer that is trying to find a way to send email via a
batch file.  Does anyone know if this is possible and what the code is
that he should use?  It will be sent to our SMTP server and then out
from there.  We tried echoing a telnet session but we cannot figure out
how to do a return command.  If you know of something different please
let me know.  We are trying to stay away from buying anything third
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Thanks

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RE: Password Mainenance

2003-10-23 Thread John Parker
Your points are valid Ben.
I started here 6 years ago and it was my 1st admin job. 
Having a list of all passwords semmed like the right thing to do at the time.
And yes, management is aware of the list.
I think I am going to take your advice on the GP password management.
Just gotta hand it off.

I know where in GP the password policy is, but right now, in the user acounts, 
Password never expires is checked.
In order fro GP to do it's job, I will need to uncheck that. Correct?

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


Why is it necessary that you keep a list of all the passwords?  It is
one thing to have a list of service account passwords, and such, but all
users is quite another thing.  It is a HUGE security risk.  Imagine what
would happen if someone got ahold of the document that had everyones
passwords.  If you are using Exchange (valid assumption I think since
this is an Exchange list), then you are using either NT or Windows 2000.
Why can't you have your users manage their own passwords?  Every client
that logs in to the domain should have the ability to change their
password - even 9x clients can change their passwords.  This is not
something that you should be doing or should have to do - now of course
that is only my opinion and you are free to do as you like, but I would
rather choke myself than have to maintain all my users passwords for
them.  Does HR know that you maintain a list of everyone's password?
Does your corporate lawyer know?  If not, you better make sure they do.

I realize I am probably not being helpful to what you are wanting to do,
but I (and probably most of the others on this list) have never run
across a sysadmin who insisted on maintaining a list of all his/her
users passwords.  So if you like, simply dismiss this as a rant from me
- it won't hurt my feelings if you do.  I certainly wouldn't wish for
your job if I was required to do what you are doing.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:46 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Password Mainenance
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


No.

We have always manually created the passwords in the past and kept a
list.
Doesn't make me a hacker of any sort.
The company is getting so big, Just looking for a way of automating it
yet maintaining a password structure.
I am one person managing two departments and too many servers and
sorkstations :)

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


What, you mean report what all the new passwords are to you?  Are you
out of your mind?  I sure hope you are kidding.  If you seriously want
to get a list of ALL passwords, why don't you go out and buy LophtCrack
- after all, what you are wanting is something to make you a hacker of
the company you work for.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday,
October 23, 2003 7:47 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Disappearing email
Subject: Password Mainenance


Hey all, I am nearing a time when once again, I need to do a password
change for my company.

Is there any password automation out there, that will allow me to setup
a password structure, changes the passwords and give me a report of the
new ones?

There has to be something out there like that...

Thanks

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.
Alpha Video

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RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification

2003-10-23 Thread MS Exchange Discussions
Does anyone know whether you still need this patch if you already
applied the September Post SP3 Rollup?  I mentioned last week that the
files appears to be the same.  But didn't see any response to that.  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wohlgemuth,
Mike
Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:38 AM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: patch MS03-046 update clarification
Subject: RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification


that is what I thought ... just making sure I didn't need new glasses 

thanks


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification


The patch was not redone. Just the wording of the alert. 

-Original Message-
From: Wohlgemuth, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: patch MS03-046 update clarification

The way I read the update (ver 1.1) to this patch (for my scenario,
W2K/SP4,
EX2K/SP3) is I do not need to re-apply it, as the updated version has
only made changes to Exchange 5.5 part of the patch ...

(snippet from
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/secur
ity/bulletin/ms03-046.asp )

V1.0 October 15, 2003: First Published. 
V1.1 October 22, 2003: Removed unnecessary information from Deployment
in the Exchange Server 5.5 Service Pack 4 section of Security Patch
Information. 

Comments? Clarifications? 

mike

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RE: Sending email via a batch file

2003-10-23 Thread Walden H. Leverich III
If echo to a telnet session is almost good enough I would use blat
(http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/blat.html) I use it all the time in batch
(.cmd) files for notifications purposes (backup complete/failed, transfer
this completed, update that done, etc)

As others have mentioned, there are some better, fuller-featured, solutions
out there, but at under 100K and a single .exe you can't beat blat for
sending simple e-mails. 

-Walden


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Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
 
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending email via a batch file

We have a developer that is trying to find a way to send email via a
batch file.  Does anyone know if this is possible and what the code is
that he should use?  It will be sent to our SMTP server and then out
from there.  We tried echoing a telnet session but we cannot figure out
how to do a return command.  If you know of something different please
let me know.  We are trying to stay away from buying anything third
party.

Thanks


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RE: Sending email via a batch file

2003-10-23 Thread Woodruff, Michael
I can write something that will send email using CDO well under 100k. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walden H.
Leverich III
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file

If echo to a telnet session is almost good enough I would use blat
(http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/blat.html) I use it all the time in
batch
(.cmd) files for notifications purposes (backup complete/failed,
transfer this completed, update that done, etc)

As others have mentioned, there are some better, fuller-featured,
solutions out there, but at under 100K and a single .exe you can't beat
blat for sending simple e-mails. 

-Walden


Walden H Leverich III
President
Tech Software
(516) 627-3800 x11
(208) 692-3308 eFax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.TechSoftInc.com 

Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
 
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending email via a batch file

We have a developer that is trying to find a way to send email via a
batch file.  Does anyone know if this is possible and what the code is
that he should use?  It will be sent to our SMTP server and then out
from there.  We tried echoing a telnet session but we cannot figure out
how to do a return command.  If you know of something different please
let me know.  We are trying to stay away from buying anything third
party.

Thanks


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RE: Password Mainenance

2003-10-23 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
While you're at it, you might as well collect everyone's ATM PIN for
safekeeping. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance

Your points are valid Ben.
I started here 6 years ago and it was my 1st admin job. 
Having a list of all passwords semmed like the right thing to do at the
time.
And yes, management is aware of the list.
I think I am going to take your advice on the GP password management.
Just gotta hand it off.

I know where in GP the password policy is, but right now, in the user
acounts, Password never expires is checked.
In order fro GP to do it's job, I will need to uncheck that. Correct?

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
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-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


Why is it necessary that you keep a list of all the passwords?  It is one
thing to have a list of service account passwords, and such, but all users
is quite another thing.  It is a HUGE security risk.  Imagine what would
happen if someone got ahold of the document that had everyones passwords.
If you are using Exchange (valid assumption I think since this is an
Exchange list), then you are using either NT or Windows 2000.
Why can't you have your users manage their own passwords?  Every client that
logs in to the domain should have the ability to change their password -
even 9x clients can change their passwords.  This is not something that you
should be doing or should have to do - now of course that is only my opinion
and you are free to do as you like, but I would rather choke myself than
have to maintain all my users passwords for them.  Does HR know that you
maintain a list of everyone's password?
Does your corporate lawyer know?  If not, you better make sure they do.

I realize I am probably not being helpful to what you are wanting to do, but
I (and probably most of the others on this list) have never run across a
sysadmin who insisted on maintaining a list of all his/her users passwords.
So if you like, simply dismiss this as a rant from me
- it won't hurt my feelings if you do.  I certainly wouldn't wish for your
job if I was required to do what you are doing.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, October
23, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Password Mainenance
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


No.

We have always manually created the passwords in the past and kept a
list.
Doesn't make me a hacker of any sort.
The company is getting so big, Just looking for a way of automating it
yet maintaining a password structure.
I am one person managing two departments and too many servers and
sorkstations :)

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


What, you mean report what all the new passwords are to you?  Are you
out of your mind?  I sure hope you are kidding.  If you seriously want
to get a list of ALL passwords, why don't you go out and buy LophtCrack
- after all, what you are wanting is something to make you a hacker of
the company you work for.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday,
October 23, 2003 7:47 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Disappearing email
Subject: Password Mainenance


Hey all, I am nearing a time when once again, I need to do a password
change for my company.

Is there any password automation out there, that will allow me to setup
a password structure, changes the passwords and give me a report of the
new ones?

There has to be something out there like that...

Thanks

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.
Alpha Video

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RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification

2003-10-23 Thread Douglas A. Jones
I checked myself and the files are the same.  You can also run the
Baseline Security Analyzer on an Exchange server with the Sept. Rollup
and it says it's OK.  

-Doug Jones 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MS Exchange
Discussions
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification

Does anyone know whether you still need this patch if you already
applied the September Post SP3 Rollup?  I mentioned last week that the
files appears to be the same.  But didn't see any response to that.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wohlgemuth,
Mike
Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:38 AM
Posted To: MS Exchange Discussions
Conversation: patch MS03-046 update clarification
Subject: RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification


that is what I thought ... just making sure I didn't need new glasses 

thanks


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification


The patch was not redone. Just the wording of the alert. 

-Original Message-
From: Wohlgemuth, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: patch MS03-046 update clarification

The way I read the update (ver 1.1) to this patch (for my scenario,
W2K/SP4,
EX2K/SP3) is I do not need to re-apply it, as the updated version has
only made changes to Exchange 5.5 part of the patch ...

(snippet from
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/secur
ity/bulletin/ms03-046.asp )

V1.0 October 15, 2003: First Published. 
V1.1 October 22, 2003: Removed unnecessary information from Deployment
in the Exchange Server 5.5 Service Pack 4 section of Security Patch
Information. 

Comments? Clarifications? 

mike

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RE: Password Mainenance

2003-10-23 Thread Ben Winzenz
YES! :-)  I think you would be well served by working with HR and/or
management to come up with a password policy.  I don't know how often
you change them right now, but you can force password changes however
many days you like.  We have our passwords set to expire every 45 days
and people must use strong passwords (3 of 4 UPPER, lower, 1234,
$*()#%) and they also cannot use the past 10 passwords.  Some would
say that it is a stringent policy, but it sure as heck reduced the
vulnerability of someone brute forcing a password.  We also have
accounts set to lock out after 3 or 4 bad login attempts (also negates
brute forcing or guessing).  Again, I would work with HR or management
to see what they would like.  Be sure to present what you would like
first and then modify it if necessary.  Are you using Active Directory
then?  Sounds like it since you are talking about Group Policies.  I
would be more than happy to forward you a sample of our policy if you
would like.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:12 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Password Mainenance
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


Your points are valid Ben.
I started here 6 years ago and it was my 1st admin job. 
Having a list of all passwords semmed like the right thing to do at the
time.
And yes, management is aware of the list.
I think I am going to take your advice on the GP password management.
Just gotta hand it off.

I know where in GP the password policy is, but right now, in the user
acounts, Password never expires is checked.
In order fro GP to do it's job, I will need to uncheck that. Correct?

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


Why is it necessary that you keep a list of all the passwords?  It is
one thing to have a list of service account passwords, and such, but all
users is quite another thing.  It is a HUGE security risk.  Imagine what
would happen if someone got ahold of the document that had everyones
passwords.  If you are using Exchange (valid assumption I think since
this is an Exchange list), then you are using either NT or Windows 2000.
Why can't you have your users manage their own passwords?  Every client
that logs in to the domain should have the ability to change their
password - even 9x clients can change their passwords.  This is not
something that you should be doing or should have to do - now of course
that is only my opinion and you are free to do as you like, but I would
rather choke myself than have to maintain all my users passwords for
them.  Does HR know that you maintain a list of everyone's password?
Does your corporate lawyer know?  If not, you better make sure they do.

I realize I am probably not being helpful to what you are wanting to do,
but I (and probably most of the others on this list) have never run
across a sysadmin who insisted on maintaining a list of all his/her
users passwords.  So if you like, simply dismiss this as a rant from me
- it won't hurt my feelings if you do.  I certainly wouldn't wish for
your job if I was required to do what you are doing.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday,
October 23, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Password Mainenance
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


No.

We have always manually created the passwords in the past and kept a
list.
Doesn't make me a hacker of any sort.
The company is getting so big, Just looking for a way of automating it
yet maintaining a password structure.
I am one person managing two departments and too many servers and
sorkstations :)

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


What, you mean report what all the new passwords are to you?  Are you
out of your mind?  I sure hope you are kidding.  If you seriously want
to get a list of ALL passwords, why don't you go out and buy LophtCrack
- after all, what you are wanting is something to make you a hacker of
the company you work for.


Ben Winzenz
Network 

RE: Password Mainenance

2003-10-23 Thread Ben Winzenz
spits Caffeine free Pepsi on monitor 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:47 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Password Mainenance
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


While you're at it, you might as well collect everyone's ATM PIN for
safekeeping. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance

Your points are valid Ben.
I started here 6 years ago and it was my 1st admin job. 
Having a list of all passwords semmed like the right thing to do at the
time.
And yes, management is aware of the list.
I think I am going to take your advice on the GP password management.
Just gotta hand it off.

I know where in GP the password policy is, but right now, in the user
acounts, Password never expires is checked.
In order fro GP to do it's job, I will need to uncheck that. Correct?

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


Why is it necessary that you keep a list of all the passwords?  It is
one thing to have a list of service account passwords, and such, but all
users is quite another thing.  It is a HUGE security risk.  Imagine what
would happen if someone got ahold of the document that had everyones
passwords.
If you are using Exchange (valid assumption I think since this is an
Exchange list), then you are using either NT or Windows 2000.
Why can't you have your users manage their own passwords?  Every client
that logs in to the domain should have the ability to change their
password - even 9x clients can change their passwords.  This is not
something that you should be doing or should have to do - now of course
that is only my opinion and you are free to do as you like, but I would
rather choke myself than have to maintain all my users passwords for
them.  Does HR know that you maintain a list of everyone's password?
Does your corporate lawyer know?  If not, you better make sure they do.

I realize I am probably not being helpful to what you are wanting to do,
but I (and probably most of the others on this list) have never run
across a sysadmin who insisted on maintaining a list of all his/her
users passwords.
So if you like, simply dismiss this as a rant from me
- it won't hurt my feelings if you do.  I certainly wouldn't wish for
your job if I was required to do what you are doing.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday,
October 23, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Password Mainenance
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


No.

We have always manually created the passwords in the past and kept a
list.
Doesn't make me a hacker of any sort.
The company is getting so big, Just looking for a way of automating it
yet maintaining a password structure.
I am one person managing two departments and too many servers and
sorkstations :)

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


What, you mean report what all the new passwords are to you?  Are you
out of your mind?  I sure hope you are kidding.  If you seriously want
to get a list of ALL passwords, why don't you go out and buy LophtCrack
- after all, what you are wanting is something to make you a hacker of
the company you work for.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday,
October 23, 2003 7:47 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Disappearing email
Subject: Password Mainenance


Hey all, I am nearing a time when once again, I need to do a password
change for my company.

Is there any password automation out there, that will allow me to setup
a password structure, changes the passwords and give me a report of the
new ones?

There has to be something out 

RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-23 Thread Chris Megginson
So if store.exe is not using more memory (only 512K out of 2GB):
A) Does that guarrentee it does not need more?
B) Is there a way to force or encourage it to use more?

I know, I know. I'm asking for someone else, OK?

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RE: Store.exe in Task Manager

2003-10-23 Thread Ben Winzenz
It will use as much as it needs.  You can't force it to use more - it
would be pointless.  When it needs more, it grabs more. 


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-Original Message-
From: Chris Megginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:28 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Store.exe in Task Manager
Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager


So if store.exe is not using more memory (only 512K out of 2GB):
A) Does that guarrentee it does not need more?
B) Is there a way to force or encourage it to use more?

I know, I know. I'm asking for someone else, OK?

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POP3 using SSL

2003-10-23 Thread Chris Megginson
I'm searching for instructions on setting up OL2K or OLXP to use POP3 on
E2K SP3 using SSL. I think I have the server setup correctly but am unsure
of how to setup the client.
aTdHvAaNnKcSe

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RE: Sending email via a batch file

2003-10-23 Thread Michael Henry
Plus 5-6MB of Overhead files.  The 100K was for a complete solution.

Regards,  Michael

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From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file


I can write something that will send email using CDO well under 100k. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walden H.
Leverich III
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending email via a batch file

If echo to a telnet session is almost good enough I would use blat
(http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/blat.html) I use it all the time in
batch
(.cmd) files for notifications purposes (backup complete/failed,
transfer this completed, update that done, etc)

As others have mentioned, there are some better, fuller-featured,
solutions out there, but at under 100K and a single .exe you can't beat
blat for sending simple e-mails. 

-Walden


Walden H Leverich III
President
Tech Software
(516) 627-3800 x11
(208) 692-3308 eFax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.TechSoftInc.com 

Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
 
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending email via a batch file

We have a developer that is trying to find a way to send email via a
batch file.  Does anyone know if this is possible and what the code is
that he should use?  It will be sent to our SMTP server and then out
from there.  We tried echoing a telnet session but we cannot figure out
how to do a return command.  If you know of something different please
let me know.  We are trying to stay away from buying anything third
party.

Thanks


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RE: Outlook 2003.

2003-10-23 Thread Ken . Powell
S

Actually, they are sending two of us. :) 


Ken Powell
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Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fax: (360) 759-6001
-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:59 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

And how does little old Clark County have the money to send their sysadmin
to two conferences in one year?

Sheesh!!

Darcy Adams
Sr. Exchange Administrator
Getty Images

Tel 206-925-6617
Cell 206-255-0169
http://www.gettyimages.com

Where do you want to ride today?
http://www.davidsonbicycles.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


So true Even then I have gotten conflicting answers. I have been told
that we have purchased everything. I am just dragging my feet until there is
service pack released for Exchange 2003. That is how I got buy-off for
skipping 2000 and going straight to 2003.

At TechEd they made it seem that the best path from Exchange 5.5 was to go
straight to 2003. I am going to Orlando next month and will see what they
say there.

Thanks again.


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) Vancouver,
Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001
-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:10 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

Check with your MS licensing rep for exact details.  I was told that each
Exchange 2003 CAL includes a license to use Outlook 2003, but not all of
Office.  I don't believe that you can use Exchange 2000 CAL's do to this,
though.  Again, to be sure, check with MS.  They are the only ones
authorized to quote official licensing. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Erick Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, October
16, 2003 1:07 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Outlook 2003.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


Does Outlook 2003 have the same licensing setup as the other versions?
That is, I have an Exchange 2000 server, and licenses for Office 2000.
Can I install Outlook 2003 on workstations using the Exchange CALs?

Thanks,
Erick

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arlo Clizer
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.
 
 
 Sure, do it. Outlook 2003 is really nice. We are upgrading from 2000 
 straight to 2003. What a difference!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:51 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Outlook 2003.
 
 We are currently running Exchange 5.5 and are looking at moving to 
 Exchange
 2003 and skipping Exchange 2000. We are currently running Outlook 2002

 on our client systems.
  
 My question is...
  
 Are there any reasons not to begin moving our client desktops to 
 Outlook 2003? Does anyone know of any compatibility issues running it 
 against Exchange 5.5 or having clients with mixed versions aside from 
 the fact that features that are introduced in Outlook 2003 will not be

 available to those clients that still have Outlook 2002?
  
 I have installed it on my desk and really like it once I have figured 
 out where everything went to. I would like to start putting it on 
 others so that we can have a more gradual rollout.
  
 Thanks
  
 
 Ken Powell
 Systems Administrator
 Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) 
 Vancouver, Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
 Fax: (360) 759-6001
 
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RE: POP3 using SSL

2003-10-23 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
In the client, all you really do is check the box that says to use SSL.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Megginson
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: POP3 using SSL

I'm searching for instructions on setting up OL2K or OLXP to use POP3 on E2K
SP3 using SSL. I think I have the server setup correctly but am unsure of
how to setup the client.
aTdHvAaNnKcSe

Chris Megginson, MCSE

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RE: Outlook 2003.

2003-10-23 Thread Christopher Hummert
Oh man. They need to fix the traffic problem to the amphitheater before
they do that :) It took me nearly 2 and a half hours to get out a few
weeks ago.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


S

Actually, they are sending two of us. :) 


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) Vancouver,
Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001
-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:59 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

And how does little old Clark County have the money to send their
sysadmin to two conferences in one year?

Sheesh!!

Darcy Adams
Sr. Exchange Administrator
Getty Images

Tel 206-925-6617
Cell 206-255-0169
http://www.gettyimages.com

Where do you want to ride today? http://www.davidsonbicycles.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


So true Even then I have gotten conflicting answers. I have been
told that we have purchased everything. I am just dragging my feet until
there is service pack released for Exchange 2003. That is how I got
buy-off for skipping 2000 and going straight to 2003.

At TechEd they made it seem that the best path from Exchange 5.5 was to
go straight to 2003. I am going to Orlando next month and will see what
they say there.

Thanks again.


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) Vancouver,
Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001
-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:10 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

Check with your MS licensing rep for exact details.  I was told that
each Exchange 2003 CAL includes a license to use Outlook 2003, but not
all of Office.  I don't believe that you can use Exchange 2000 CAL's do
to this, though.  Again, to be sure, check with MS.  They are the only
ones authorized to quote official licensing. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Erick Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday,
October 16, 2003 1:07 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Outlook 2003.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


Does Outlook 2003 have the same licensing setup as the other versions?
That is, I have an Exchange 2000 server, and licenses for Office 2000.
Can I install Outlook 2003 on workstations using the Exchange CALs?

Thanks,
Erick

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arlo Clizer
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.
 
 
 Sure, do it. Outlook 2003 is really nice. We are upgrading from 2000
 straight to 2003. What a difference!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:51 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Outlook 2003.
 
 We are currently running Exchange 5.5 and are looking at moving to
 Exchange
 2003 and skipping Exchange 2000. We are currently running Outlook 2002

 on our client systems.
  
 My question is...
  
 Are there any reasons not to begin moving our client desktops to
 Outlook 2003? Does anyone know of any compatibility issues running it 
 against Exchange 5.5 or having clients with mixed versions aside from 
 the fact that features that are introduced in Outlook 2003 will not be

 available to those clients that still have Outlook 2002?
  
 I have installed it on my desk and really like it once I have figured
 out where everything went to. I would like to start putting it on 
 others so that we can have a more gradual rollout.
  
 Thanks
  
 
 Ken Powell
 Systems Administrator
 Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
 Vancouver, Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
 Fax: (360) 759-6001
 
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RE: Password Mainenance

2003-10-23 Thread John Parker
I would welcome a look at your policy Ben.

Just send it to the address below.

Thank you

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


spits Caffeine free Pepsi on monitor 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:47 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Password Mainenance
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


While you're at it, you might as well collect everyone's ATM PIN for
safekeeping. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Parker
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance

Your points are valid Ben.
I started here 6 years ago and it was my 1st admin job. 
Having a list of all passwords semmed like the right thing to do at the
time.
And yes, management is aware of the list.
I think I am going to take your advice on the GP password management.
Just gotta hand it off.

I know where in GP the password policy is, but right now, in the user
acounts, Password never expires is checked.
In order fro GP to do it's job, I will need to uncheck that. Correct?

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


Why is it necessary that you keep a list of all the passwords?  It is
one thing to have a list of service account passwords, and such, but all
users is quite another thing.  It is a HUGE security risk.  Imagine what
would happen if someone got ahold of the document that had everyones
passwords.
If you are using Exchange (valid assumption I think since this is an
Exchange list), then you are using either NT or Windows 2000.
Why can't you have your users manage their own passwords?  Every client
that logs in to the domain should have the ability to change their
password - even 9x clients can change their passwords.  This is not
something that you should be doing or should have to do - now of course
that is only my opinion and you are free to do as you like, but I would
rather choke myself than have to maintain all my users passwords for
them.  Does HR know that you maintain a list of everyone's password?
Does your corporate lawyer know?  If not, you better make sure they do.

I realize I am probably not being helpful to what you are wanting to do,
but I (and probably most of the others on this list) have never run
across a sysadmin who insisted on maintaining a list of all his/her
users passwords.
So if you like, simply dismiss this as a rant from me
- it won't hurt my feelings if you do.  I certainly wouldn't wish for
your job if I was required to do what you are doing.


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday,
October 23, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Password Mainenance
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


No.

We have always manually created the passwords in the past and kept a
list.
Doesn't make me a hacker of any sort.
The company is getting so big, Just looking for a way of automating it
yet maintaining a password structure.
I am one person managing two departments and too many servers and
sorkstations :)

John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Digital Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Be excellent to each other
---End of Line---


-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Password Mainenance


What, you mean report what all the new passwords are to you?  Are you
out of your mind?  I sure hope you are kidding.  If you seriously want
to get a list of ALL passwords, why don't you go out and buy LophtCrack
- after all, what you are wanting is something to make you a hacker of
the company you work for.


Ben 

MIIS and Free Busy

2003-10-23 Thread Finch Brett
 I was actually surprised to find out that the next gen of Meta Directory
(MIIS) will not do Free Busy. So what are people using in 2000/2003 to get
Free Busy info across Forests? I thought if they can generate a GAL, why not
Free Busy?

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RE: Outlook 2003.

2003-10-23 Thread Ken . Powell
Two and a half hours ain't bad from what I hear.  :)

I have yet to go there yet. I know that I left Hazel Dell a couple of weeks
ago and thought that there was a really bad accident since the traffic was
stopped.

I hear that it is nice, but, yeah the traffic sucks from what I have seen. I
am not sure what the deal is with it and the county. I know that I get shown
no love when I offer to check mail connectivity for each concert.

I would think that they would want to be certain that it was working!!! :) 


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:53 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

Oh man. They need to fix the traffic problem to the amphitheater before they
do that :) It took me nearly 2 and a half hours to get out a few weeks ago.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


S

Actually, they are sending two of us. :) 


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) Vancouver,
Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001
-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:59 PM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

And how does little old Clark County have the money to send their sysadmin
to two conferences in one year?

Sheesh!!

Darcy Adams
Sr. Exchange Administrator
Getty Images

Tel 206-925-6617
Cell 206-255-0169
http://www.gettyimages.com

Where do you want to ride today? http://www.davidsonbicycles.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


So true Even then I have gotten conflicting answers. I have been told
that we have purchased everything. I am just dragging my feet until there is
service pack released for Exchange 2003. That is how I got buy-off for
skipping 2000 and going straight to 2003.

At TechEd they made it seem that the best path from Exchange 5.5 was to go
straight to 2003. I am going to Orlando next month and will see what they
say there.

Thanks again.


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) Vancouver,
Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001
-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:10 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

Check with your MS licensing rep for exact details.  I was told that each
Exchange 2003 CAL includes a license to use Outlook 2003, but not all of
Office.  I don't believe that you can use Exchange 2000 CAL's do to this,
though.  Again, to be sure, check with MS.  They are the only ones
authorized to quote official licensing. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Erick Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, October
16, 2003 1:07 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Outlook 2003.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


Does Outlook 2003 have the same licensing setup as the other versions?
That is, I have an Exchange 2000 server, and licenses for Office 2000.
Can I install Outlook 2003 on workstations using the Exchange CALs?

Thanks,
Erick

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arlo Clizer
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.
 
 
 Sure, do it. Outlook 2003 is really nice. We are upgrading from 2000 
 straight to 2003. What a difference!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:51 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Outlook 2003.
 
 We are currently running Exchange 5.5 and are looking at moving to 
 Exchange
 2003 and skipping Exchange 2000. We are currently running Outlook 2002

 on our client systems.
  
 My question is...
  
 Are there any reasons not to begin moving our client desktops to 
 Outlook 2003? Does anyone know of any compatibility issues running it 
 against Exchange 5.5 or having clients with mixed versions aside from 
 the fact that features that are introduced in Outlook 2003 will not be

 available to those clients that still have Outlook 2002?
  
 I have installed it on my desk and really like it once I have figured 
 out where everything went to. I would like to start putting it on 
 others so that we can have a more gradual rollout.
  
 Thanks
  
 
 Ken Powell
 Systems Administrator
 

RE: Outlook 2003.

2003-10-23 Thread Dean, Nathaniel, V.
I was just at a office release kick off that MS had and they also said that
the best path from 5.5 was a new server and Exchange 2003

Nathaniel Dean
EVMS Health Services
721 Fairfax Ave 101
Norfolk VA 23507
757-446-0317


-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

And how does little old Clark County have the money to send their sysadmin
to two conferences in one year?

Sheesh!!

Darcy Adams
Sr. Exchange Administrator
Getty Images

Tel 206-925-6617
Cell 206-255-0169
http://www.gettyimages.com

Where do you want to ride today?
http://www.davidsonbicycles.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


So true Even then I have gotten conflicting answers. I have been told
that we have purchased everything. I am just dragging my feet until there is
service pack released for Exchange 2003. That is how I got buy-off for
skipping 2000 and going straight to 2003.

At TechEd they made it seem that the best path from Exchange 5.5 was to go
straight to 2003. I am going to Orlando next month and will see what they
say there.

Thanks again.


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS)
Vancouver, Washington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001
-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:10 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

Check with your MS licensing rep for exact details.  I was told that each
Exchange 2003 CAL includes a license to use Outlook 2003, but not all of
Office.  I don't believe that you can use Exchange 2000 CAL's do to this,
though.  Again, to be sure, check with MS.  They are the only ones
authorized to quote official licensing. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Erick Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, October
16, 2003 1:07 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Outlook 2003.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


Does Outlook 2003 have the same licensing setup as the other versions?
That is, I have an Exchange 2000 server, and licenses for Office 2000.
Can I install Outlook 2003 on workstations using the Exchange CALs?

Thanks,
Erick

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arlo Clizer
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.
 
 
 Sure, do it. Outlook 2003 is really nice. We are upgrading from 2000 
 straight to 2003. What a difference!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:51 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Outlook 2003.
 
 We are currently running Exchange 5.5 and are looking at moving to 
 Exchange
 2003 and skipping Exchange 2000. We are currently running Outlook 2002

 on our client systems.
  
 My question is...
  
 Are there any reasons not to begin moving our client desktops to 
 Outlook 2003? Does anyone know of any compatibility issues running it 
 against Exchange 5.5 or having clients with mixed versions aside from 
 the fact that features that are introduced in Outlook 2003 will not be

 available to those clients that still have Outlook 2002?
  
 I have installed it on my desk and really like it once I have figured 
 out where everything went to. I would like to start putting it on 
 others so that we can have a more gradual rollout.
  
 Thanks
  
 
 Ken Powell
 Systems Administrator
 Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) 
 Vancouver, Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
 Fax: (360) 759-6001
 
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Does this make sense ?

2003-10-23 Thread RBHATIA
Runnign Exchange 5.5 SP4 

I recently had someone report to me that she was not getting all her emails
from a specific company. The company was running an online training service
and each time someone would sign up for a course, their system is supposed
to send us and them, course confirmation emails. The system uses the BCC
field to send these emails to us while the TO field contains the email
address of the person who signed up for the course. So 3 people receive the
confirmation, the person who signed up for the course, my staff person
(blank copy) and the person at the company offering the service (blank
copy).
The problem is that some of these emails don't come through at all or
sometimes if they do come through, it takes a couple of hours or even a day
or so to reach us. I have enquired from the company whether they are having
any problems with their mail service and they claim that the blank copies of
the email confirmations reach them right away so they are pointing a finger
at us saying the problem is at our end. However, I have had no problems
sending myself emails from other sources. I have tried sending myself emails
from my Yahoo, Hotmail and even my Verizon account and all the emails reach
my Exchange server right away.
I even sent myself an exact duplicate of the email confirmation that goes
out spoofing the FROM address to read as the sender of the email
confirmation message and they do come through almost instantly (which proves
that my spam server is not catching these emails).
Is it still possible that the problem might be on our end ? Why then would
some emails reach my server instantly and some wouldn't ? I haven't had any
other complaints from others about emails not reaching us on time.
Please advise.
Thanks

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OWA display blank body after applying MS03-046 and MS03-047

2003-10-23 Thread Tariq Hamirani
I have Exchange 5.5 with SP4 on NT4 with SP6a Intel

Over the weekend I applied MS03-046 and MS03-047.

Now OWA does not display text in the message body.
I also suspect some user's may have been using Outlook 2003 to cause this.

The question is should I apply Exchange5.5-KB818709-x86-enu.EXE to resolve
this problem.

Thanks

Tariq Hamirani

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RE: POP3 using SSL

2003-10-23 Thread Chris Megginson
Thanks for the quick response.

That's the This server requires a secure connection (SSL). check box on
the Advanced tab, right?

Under POP3 server Access/Authorization, I have both clear and Int. Windows
Auth. if that matters.

Don't I need to download a certificate to the client?

Chris

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RE: POP3 using SSL

2003-10-23 Thread Tony Hlabse
If your going through a firewall make sure the appropriate port(995) for ssl 
pop3 or 993 for IMAP are open. No need for a certificate

From: Chris Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: POP3 using SSL
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 13:14:58 -0700
Thanks for the quick response.

That's the This server requires a secure connection (SSL). check box on
the Advanced tab, right?
Under POP3 server Access/Authorization, I have both clear and Int. Windows
Auth. if that matters.
Don't I need to download a certificate to the client?

Chris

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RE: OWA display blank body after applying MS03-046 and MS03-047

2003-10-23 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Have you read this part of the MS-047 bulletin yet?

You may get a blank message body when opening a message in OWA after the
patch is installed if you have your Windows directory on the OWA Server set
to read only permissions. To solve this problem, please reference the
following Knowledge Base Article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;314532;

-Original Message-
From: Tariq Hamirani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA display blank body after applying MS03-046 and MS03-047


I have Exchange 5.5 with SP4 on NT4 with SP6a Intel

Over the weekend I applied MS03-046 and MS03-047.

Now OWA does not display text in the message body.
I also suspect some user's may have been using Outlook 2003 to cause this.

The question is should I apply Exchange5.5-KB818709-x86-enu.EXE to resolve
this problem.

Thanks

Tariq Hamirani

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RE: OWA display blank body after applying MS03-046 and MS03-047

2003-10-23 Thread Blunt, James H (Jim)
Were you running at least IE 5.5 SP2 on the OWA server, BEFORE installing
MS-047?  If not, then I would bet your problem is described in the second
issue of the Q314532 link below.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OWA display blank body after applying MS03-046 and MS03-047


Have you read this part of the MS-047 bulletin yet?

You may get a blank message body when opening a message in OWA after the
patch is installed if you have your Windows directory on the OWA Server set
to read only permissions. To solve this problem, please reference the
following Knowledge Base Article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;314532;

-Original Message-
From: Tariq Hamirani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OWA display blank body after applying MS03-046 and MS03-047


I have Exchange 5.5 with SP4 on NT4 with SP6a Intel

Over the weekend I applied MS03-046 and MS03-047.

Now OWA does not display text in the message body.
I also suspect some user's may have been using Outlook 2003 to cause this.

The question is should I apply Exchange5.5-KB818709-x86-enu.EXE to resolve
this problem.

Thanks

Tariq Hamirani

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RE: OWA and URLScan-Blocked Special Characters

2003-10-23 Thread Martin, Jon
Thanks for the input on this. While both my post here and on the MS newsgroups failed 
to elicit detailed specifics as to what exploits were being prevented by blocking 
these particular characters, these responses were useful and definitely preferable to 
what I received yesterday from MS PSS. Their answer was 'We know, but for security 
reasons we cannot tell you.' ( A snide aside: Thanks, MS. That took five phone calls, 
five emails, and you still have not agreed to non-decrement the case.)

On a much more positive front, I received an excellent response from Rand Morimoto 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), author of the book Exchange 2003 Unleashed. My query to Rand 
was to help explain the two most problematic character blocks (from a customer 
irritation point a view) - the '..' and the ''. Rand's response was as follows:

The '..' in a URL allows for traversal of the directory tree. This means that when I 
get access to one location on an Exchange server, I can send a .. command and walk 
up the directory tree.  This can actually be minimized by having tight security 
rights, so I really don't see a problem with that issue.  The '' is more of a problem 
because that allows you to string together multiple commands.  So you can tell an 
IIS server to open an email and to launch an executable at the same time.  However 
this too can be minimized as a risk by hardening the server so that someone cannot 
hack the server to then launch an executable (i.e. I send an email to someone with an 
attachment, I somehow know that persons logon/password, I then open and launch the 
executable that brings the whole network down).  This presumes that you allow 
executables into your network AND it presumes that someone has their user account 
compromised.  But it's possible.
So by themselves, the ability to bypass URLScan for these commands, while it does 
weaken security, requires a couple other compromises to take place in your 
environment. Another option is go to IIS6 / Exchange 2003 OWA.  IIS6 has functionality 
that allows you to run and access messages that may otherwise be URLScan compromising, 
however Exchange 2003 / IIS6 have better protections to allow access without 
restricting accessibility while minimizing security risks.
The bottom line in our environment is that we will open the '..' and '' for OWA, and 
let other security measures handle the potential risks.

Jon

 -Original Message-
From:   Martin, Jon  
Sent:   Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:20 PM
Posted To:  exchange - new
Conversation:   OWA and URLScan-Blocked Special Characters
Subject:OWA and URLScan-Blocked Special Characters

OK, we all know that when you run Urlscan on an Exchange server that you will not be 
able to view certain notes in OWA, specifically those notes with special characters in 
the subject line. The special characters are below, along with the reason, according 
to MS documentation, that these should be blocked.

..  Allows directory traversals
./  Allows trailing dot on a directory name
\   Allows backslashes in URL
%   Allows escaping after normalization
   Allows multiple CGI processes to run on a single request


My management wants these characters unblocked. To prevent this I need a better 
understanding of what potential problems are being prevented by the disabling of these 
characters. The above explanation in the MS documentation is probably not going to be 
sufficient. 

Does anyone have a more detailed explanation of the possible exploits being blocked by 
disabling these characters??

Thanks.


Jon Martin



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RE: OWA display blank body after applying MS03-046 and MS03-047

2003-10-23 Thread Tariq Hamirani
James,

Thats it. I don't recall reading this on the earlier security posts on MS
site. I am still running IE4 on the EX55 box. Will install IE6.


Thank you 

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RE: MIIS and Free Busy

2003-10-23 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
I wasn't aware that any version of MMS or MIIS did free-busy synchronization
since it really has nothing to do with the directory, being that free-busy
data is stored in a system public folder.  The only tool I was aware of that
did this was the InterOrg Replication Tool that comes in the Resource Kit. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Finch Brett
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MIIS and Free Busy

 I was actually surprised to find out that the next gen of Meta Directory
(MIIS) will not do Free Busy. So what are people using in 2000/2003 to get
Free Busy info across Forests? I thought if they can generate a GAL, why not
Free Busy?

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RE: Outlook 2003.

2003-10-23 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
Another thing we've been saying for years.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean, Nathaniel,
V.
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

I was just at a office release kick off that MS had and they also said that
the best path from 5.5 was a new server and Exchange 2003

Nathaniel Dean
EVMS Health Services
721 Fairfax Ave 101
Norfolk VA 23507
757-446-0317


-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

And how does little old Clark County have the money to send their sysadmin
to two conferences in one year?

Sheesh!!

Darcy Adams
Sr. Exchange Administrator
Getty Images

Tel 206-925-6617
Cell 206-255-0169
http://www.gettyimages.com

Where do you want to ride today?
http://www.davidsonbicycles.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


So true Even then I have gotten conflicting answers. I have been told
that we have purchased everything. I am just dragging my feet until there is
service pack released for Exchange 2003. That is how I got buy-off for
skipping 2000 and going straight to 2003.

At TechEd they made it seem that the best path from Exchange 5.5 was to go
straight to 2003. I am going to Orlando next month and will see what they
say there.

Thanks again.


Ken Powell
Systems Administrator
Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) Vancouver,
Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
Fax: (360) 759-6001
-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:10 AM
To: Exchange 5.5 List
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.

Check with your MS licensing rep for exact details.  I was told that each
Exchange 2003 CAL includes a license to use Outlook 2003, but not all of
Office.  I don't believe that you can use Exchange 2000 CAL's do to this,
though.  Again, to be sure, check with MS.  They are the only ones
authorized to quote official licensing. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner  White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Erick Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, October
16, 2003 1:07 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Outlook 2003.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.


Does Outlook 2003 have the same licensing setup as the other versions?
That is, I have an Exchange 2000 server, and licenses for Office 2000.
Can I install Outlook 2003 on workstations using the Exchange CALs?

Thanks,
Erick

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arlo Clizer
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:57 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook 2003.
 
 
 Sure, do it. Outlook 2003 is really nice. We are upgrading from 2000 
 straight to 2003. What a difference!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:51 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Outlook 2003.
 
 We are currently running Exchange 5.5 and are looking at moving to 
 Exchange
 2003 and skipping Exchange 2000. We are currently running Outlook 2002

 on our client systems.
  
 My question is...
  
 Are there any reasons not to begin moving our client desktops to 
 Outlook 2003? Does anyone know of any compatibility issues running it 
 against Exchange 5.5 or having clients with mixed versions aside from 
 the fact that features that are introduced in Outlook 2003 will not be

 available to those clients that still have Outlook 2002?
  
 I have installed it on my desk and really like it once I have figured 
 out where everything went to. I would like to start putting it on 
 others so that we can have a more gradual rollout.
  
 Thanks
  
 
 Ken Powell
 Systems Administrator
 Clark County Office of Budget and Information Services (OBIS) 
 Vancouver, Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Voice: (360) 397-6121 x4658
 Fax: (360) 759-6001
 
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RE: Does this make sense ?

2003-10-23 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
What do the Internet headers in each message tell you?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RBHATIA
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Does this make sense ?

Runnign Exchange 5.5 SP4 

I recently had someone report to me that she was not getting all her emails
from a specific company. The company was running an online training service
and each time someone would sign up for a course, their system is supposed
to send us and them, course confirmation emails. The system uses the BCC
field to send these emails to us while the TO field contains the email
address of the person who signed up for the course. So 3 people receive the
confirmation, the person who signed up for the course, my staff person
(blank copy) and the person at the company offering the service (blank
copy).
The problem is that some of these emails don't come through at all or
sometimes if they do come through, it takes a couple of hours or even a day
or so to reach us. I have enquired from the company whether they are having
any problems with their mail service and they claim that the blank copies of
the email confirmations reach them right away so they are pointing a finger
at us saying the problem is at our end. However, I have had no problems
sending myself emails from other sources. I have tried sending myself emails
from my Yahoo, Hotmail and even my Verizon account and all the emails reach
my Exchange server right away.
I even sent myself an exact duplicate of the email confirmation that goes
out spoofing the FROM address to read as the sender of the email
confirmation message and they do come through almost instantly (which proves
that my spam server is not catching these emails).
Is it still possible that the problem might be on our end ? Why then would
some emails reach my server instantly and some wouldn't ? I haven't had any
other complaints from others about emails not reaching us on time.
Please advise.
Thanks

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RE: POP3 using SSL

2003-10-23 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
That is the setting.  Note that when you check it the port number changes.
It's an either-or situation.

I've never needed to load a client certificate to use SSL.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Megginson
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 1:15 PM
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Subject: RE: POP3 using SSL

Thanks for the quick response.

That's the This server requires a secure connection (SSL). check box on
the Advanced tab, right?

Under POP3 server Access/Authorization, I have both clear and Int. Windows
Auth. if that matters.

Don't I need to download a certificate to the client?

Chris

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RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification

2003-10-23 Thread Veld, Paul
I've been told by an MS person that I don't need the patch if I have
post SP3 rollup installed. 

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From: MS Exchange Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 24 October 2003 1:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification

Does anyone know whether you still need this patch if you already
applied the September Post SP3 Rollup?  I mentioned last week that the
files appears to be the same.  But didn't see any response to that.  

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wohlgemuth,
Mike Posted At: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:38 AM Posted To: MS
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Conversation: patch MS03-046 update clarification
Subject: RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification


that is what I thought ... just making sure I didn't need new glasses 

thanks


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: patch MS03-046 update clarification


The patch was not redone. Just the wording of the alert. 

-Original Message-
From: Wohlgemuth, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: patch MS03-046 update clarification

The way I read the update (ver 1.1) to this patch (for my scenario,
W2K/SP4,
EX2K/SP3) is I do not need to re-apply it, as the updated version has
only made changes to Exchange 5.5 part of the patch ...

(snippet from
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/secur
ity/bulletin/ms03-046.asp )

V1.0 October 15, 2003: First Published. 
V1.1 October 22, 2003: Removed unnecessary information from Deployment
in the Exchange Server 5.5 Service Pack 4 section of Security Patch
Information. 

Comments? Clarifications? 

mike

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