RE: doubletake

[Reasoner, Bob (PHES)]

While I don't want to sound like a stick in the mud this is at least 20
messages that have passed through the list that have no bearing on the
subject and fill up our inboxes.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: doubletake


You know, we probably weren't going to go there  Dancing bears,
dancing bears.

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: doubletake


And just to be clear, I said "meet" 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: doubletake

Cool. A dog thread.
 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: doubletake

Mine is like that. Half pit bull, half german shepard and the biggest
pussy you will ever meet. He is nothing but love.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevinm [NY]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 12:39 PM
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Subject: RE: doubletake

The dog is 150 pounds, half wolf, half German Sheppard. About the
dumbest most loveable dog I have ever met. But boy does he smell... 

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Subject: RE: doubletake

That's a huge dog if it can excrete enough wee to flood a beefy mail
server

Eric Fretz

L-3 Communications
ComCept Division
2800 Discovery Blvd.
Rockwall, TX 75032
tel:   972.772.7501
fax:  972.772.7510



-Original Message-
From: Kevinm [NY] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: doubletake


What does double take really do for exchange??

Yeah so I have a bit by bit copy of the store, my dog comes in and pees
on my primary server, now what will double take do for me? will it
change IP and Server for me to fail over? How do my users see that there
is a double take server??

Any one run this or have it installed that can tell me?? 

Thanks. 


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OT: My Ethics are still good!

[Bob Sadler]

I just received a phone call from the "Who's Who" list, and they wanted
to put me in their upcoming edition.  Of course, I said, in order to
make it ethical, I would first have to pay you to put me in your
edition.  They insisted though that this was an AWARDED position based
upon my credentials in my field, and you couldn't "buy" your way into
the "Who's Who".

Well, I told them right then and there that I know my ethics, and if I
can't buy the award, it must be unethical!

Thanks Greg!  I have seen the light


Bob Sadler

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RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

[Bob Sadler]

Now there's a twist on it I haven't thought of.  You mean if I get
herpes my Chronic Back Pain will go away? :)  To hell with this
scheduled neurosurgery, I'm gonna go get Herpes!



Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


But according to the commercials on TV it's hip to get herpes. You can
do all these cool things like rafting and mountain climbing when you
have herpes.  

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:35 AM
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Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

That what they said about herpes :)



Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


If people would just quit responding to him, he would go away.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

Then you live your ethics, and let the rest of us live ours.  Then, when
the IT industry goes to hell in a handbasket, you can blame us all for
it's demise.  We (speaking collectively here) don't believe that MVP's
are unethical for receiving a small stipend or gift (whatever it might
be).  You do.  That's fine, but stop trying to force it upon the rest of
us.  Our views aren't going to change, and your views aren't going to
change, so let it rest. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday,
December 22, 2003 12:24 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit reading. 

I do not claim that all MVP's are Microsoft wh0res. I simply don't claim
that. In fact, I have posted things in direct opposition to that claim.
If you are going to make such blatant mis-characterizations, then I am
not going to respond to the rest of your post, which I can only assume
you will then take as "proof" that you are right or that I "cannot make
rational arguments" or whatever other non-sense you want to claim.

"Ethical god"? Please. I have, nor ever will claim to be an "ethical
god". I have my set of ethics that I follow, period. And I did not bring
up this whole point of ethics on this list. I posted an email about
"Migrating from GroupWise 6.5" that then degenerated into this mess.
Thank your buddy Ed for that.

And about this claim that I am not following my own ethical guidelines.
Hey, there may be some truth to it. I haven't seen any proof from what
miserable evidence you have supplied, but I am more than willing to
admit that I may not live up to every single bit of the ethical code
that I have. Know what? It doesn't matter. An ethical code is the
ceiling, it is what everyone should aspire to, but it is not expected
that everyone will ALWAYS actually achieve every single little detail.
That's not what ethics is about. The laws are the floor, the ethical
code the ceiling, aspire to get as close to the ceiling as possible. All
I can say is that I try my absolute hardest, every day, to meet my own
ethical standards. Do I succeed every day? No, but I TRY.

Finally, just because the officer that tickets you for speeding murdered
his wife last night doesn't mean that you DIDN'T break the law for
speeding.


> I have no credibility because I don't say BOO?  Ok then...BOO
> 
> Do I get credibility now?
> 
> In all seriousness, I'm not the one who claims that all MVP's are 
> Microsoft Whores or that MVP's are doing anything wrong in their
world.
> Since, you are the one that brought up the point of ethics, I assumed 
> it was you that were claiming to be the "ethical god" here.  Perhaps 
> your pointing out that you don't accept gifts because of your ethics 
> was where I went astray.
> 
> As for the litmus test you are under, I suggest you read your own 
> website.  YOU are working for that company, and YOU are the one that 
> should be upholding ALL the virtues of that company, not me, not ED, 
> not TONY, heck, not even DON; only you!  You don't like what your 
> company puts up as a litmus test, then I suggest you find a job
elsewhere.
> 
> One thing still stands, you still aren't drumm

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

[Bob Sadler]

Oh gosh, I had no idea we've been talking about this for 8 years!

And because you were able to resist the great Satan, now you come here
and tell us all that those damnable MVP's here are leading us into sin!
I see the light!

OK, thanks, move along now.



Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


Again, your ignorance of the facts makes you look foolish. I was asked
to be an MVP and turned it down. That's what started this whole mess 8
years ago.

> I get this strange idea that someone wasn't chosen to be an MVP and is

> very very angry about it :)
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Sadler
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:30 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
> 
> 
> So how fundamentally different is paying Microsoft to be a Partner 
> than being an MVP?  It's true that I don't pay actual money to be an 
> MVP, but I do work for it.  Don't you have to sign lots of agreement 
> papers to be a Partner?  Do you give all your customers copies of 
> those papers so they can assess the level of conflict of interest?  So

> if I send Microsoft a dollar for my MVP status, the conflict of 
> interest ends?
> 
> You still haven't proven your assertion that my accepting the small 
> gratuity and title associated with MVP constitutes a conflict of 
> interest.  Your only proof so far is along the lines of, "It's 
> obvious," or "It is because I say it is." Perhaps it's because you 
> can't prove it?
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:51 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
> 
> First, you have no credibility on the point. You find the phrase "I 
> finish them (fights)" offensive but not someone being called a "liar",

> "stupid", "idiot", "wife beater". You simply have zaro credibility.
> 
> Second, as for your other two points, our customers and potential 
> customers are made well aware of any and all potential conflicts of 
> interest. We practice full disclosure. In addition, meeting with a 
> vendor to talk about their new products is in no way even CLOSE to 
> accepting a title or gift from said vendor. But, there is no point to 
> even debating this with you because you are never going to see it 
> because you are going to deny the obvious. Yes, I have to deal with 
> vendors just like everyone else in this industry. It is a fact of 
> life. But, I don't have to like it and no, generally, I almost NEVER 
> meet with vendors and when I do, it is for specific purposes, I get 
> in, get the information and get out.
> 
> Finally, you have obviously shown your bias by claiming that I claim 
> to be the "all ethical" sort. And to my knowledge, I have no "ethics 
> test" that I have created. This is a blatant mis-characterization and 
> exposes your bias. I am not, nor ever will be "all ethical" and 
> "holier than thou". I have
> *different* ethics apparently than many on this board, but I have 
> never claimed to be perfect or that my ethics are the end all, be all.

> Yes, I have paid to attend conventions, I have paid to be a Microsoft 
> "partner". In some strict ethical vaccuum those may be considered 
> unethical, but this is the real world. And besides that, there is a 
> clear, bright line between paying a vendor to attend a convention and 
> accepting a pure gift from a vendor. That bright line is what I have 
> been talking about, but you are never going to see it because you will

> never admit to the obvious and just want to pick a fight.
> 
> And yes, for all of you out there, I am nearly certain that, in my 
> youth, I accepted direct gifts from vendors. I cannot recall any 
> particular occassion, but I'm willing to bet that it probably 
> occurred. And guess what? I stopped that long, long, long ago because 
> IT IS WRONG.
> 
> So, to sum it up, you have no credibility that you have been 
> "offended" in any way because there have been lots more offensive 
> stuff said that you have not said boo about. And, you are in 
> self-denial about the DISTINCT difference between accepting a pure 
>

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

[Bob Sadler]

VH1 - Where are they now :)



Bob Sadler
-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


And just who's survey list did you use to verify this? Billboard or the
AT40 list? 



John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Posted At: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:33 PM Posted To: Exchange
Discussion List
Conversation: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


I said TOP 10 Classic Hit :)

Tom M. of Texas is the winner if anyone cares.  The song was "Jessie's
Girl" by Rick Springfield.



Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics




: Speaking of MOOT, can anyone tell me what top 10 classic rock single
contains the word "MOOT"? Do you mean in the band name, song title or
lyrics?
Eg:
Moot The Hoople - Ballad of Mott the Hoople (1973)?




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RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

[Bob Sadler]

That what they said about herpes :)



Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


If people would just quit responding to him, he would go away.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

Then you live your ethics, and let the rest of us live ours.  Then, when
the IT industry goes to hell in a handbasket, you can blame us all for
it's demise.  We (speaking collectively here) don't believe that MVP's
are unethical for receiving a small stipend or gift (whatever it might
be).  You do.  That's fine, but stop trying to force it upon the rest of
us.  Our views aren't going to change, and your views aren't going to
change, so let it rest. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday,
December 22, 2003 12:24 PM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit reading. 

I do not claim that all MVP's are Microsoft wh0res. I simply don't claim
that. In fact, I have posted things in direct opposition to that claim.
If you are going to make such blatant mis-characterizations, then I am
not going to respond to the rest of your post, which I can only assume
you will then take as "proof" that you are right or that I "cannot make
rational arguments" or whatever other non-sense you want to claim.

"Ethical god"? Please. I have, nor ever will claim to be an "ethical
god". I have my set of ethics that I follow, period. And I did not bring
up this whole point of ethics on this list. I posted an email about
"Migrating from GroupWise 6.5" that then degenerated into this mess.
Thank your buddy Ed for that.

And about this claim that I am not following my own ethical guidelines.
Hey, there may be some truth to it. I haven't seen any proof from what
miserable evidence you have supplied, but I am more than willing to
admit that I may not live up to every single bit of the ethical code
that I have. Know what? It doesn't matter. An ethical code is the
ceiling, it is what everyone should aspire to, but it is not expected
that everyone will ALWAYS actually achieve every single little detail.
That's not what ethics is about. The laws are the floor, the ethical
code the ceiling, aspire to get as close to the ceiling as possible. All
I can say is that I try my absolute hardest, every day, to meet my own
ethical standards. Do I succeed every day? No, but I TRY.

Finally, just because the officer that tickets you for speeding murdered
his wife last night doesn't mean that you DIDN'T break the law for
speeding.


> I have no credibility because I don't say BOO?  Ok then...BOO
> 
> Do I get credibility now?
> 
> In all seriousness, I'm not the one who claims that all MVP's are
> Microsoft Whores or that MVP's are doing anything wrong in their
world.
> Since, you are the one that brought up the point of ethics, I assumed
> it was you that were claiming to be the "ethical god" here.  Perhaps 
> your pointing out that you don't accept gifts because of your ethics 
> was where I went astray.
> 
> As for the litmus test you are under, I suggest you read your own
> website.  YOU are working for that company, and YOU are the one that 
> should be upholding ALL the virtues of that company, not me, not ED, 
> not TONY, heck, not even DON; only you!  You don't like what your 
> company puts up as a litmus test, then I suggest you find a job
elsewhere.
> 
> One thing still stands, you still aren't drumming up business in this
> list when you "explode" on potential customers.  I hope you never 
> decide to come calling on my account, I'm sure your boss would like to

> know the reason I refused you a meeting was because you don't know
> when to shut up.
> 
> As for the name-calling that goes on this list, I suggest you shut up,

> sit back, and learn.  Sure, Ed, Tony, and Don (and a few more) can
> certainly be grating on someone's nerves, but I will promise you, they

> know more about Exchange Systems then you could wish to know in a
> lifetime.  While I don't choose to instruct in the same way these 
> people do, I certainly understand where they get to the point and call

> someone an idiot for not looking up an issue like &quo

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

[Bob Sadler]

I said TOP 10 Classic Hit :)

Tom M. of Texas is the winner if anyone cares.  The song was "Jessie's
Girl" by Rick Springfield.



Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics




: Speaking of MOOT, can anyone tell me what top 10 classic rock single
contains the word "MOOT"? Do you mean in the band name, song title or
lyrics?
Eg:
Moot The Hoople - Ballad of Mott the Hoople (1973)?




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RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

[Bob Sadler]

I get this strange idea that someone wasn't chosen to be an MVP and is
very very angry about it :)



Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


So how fundamentally different is paying Microsoft to be a Partner than
being an MVP?  It's true that I don't pay actual money to be an MVP, but
I do work for it.  Don't you have to sign lots of agreement papers to be
a Partner?  Do you give all your customers copies of those papers so
they can assess the level of conflict of interest?  So if I send
Microsoft a dollar for my MVP status, the conflict of interest ends?

You still haven't proven your assertion that my accepting the small
gratuity and title associated with MVP constitutes a conflict of
interest.  Your only proof so far is along the lines of, "It's obvious,"
or "It is because I say it is." Perhaps it's because you can't prove it?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

First, you have no credibility on the point. You find the phrase "I
finish them (fights)" offensive but not someone being called a "liar",
"stupid", "idiot", "wife beater". You simply have zaro credibility.

Second, as for your other two points, our customers and potential
customers are made well aware of any and all potential conflicts of
interest. We practice full disclosure. In addition, meeting with a
vendor to talk about their new products is in no way even CLOSE to
accepting a title or gift from said vendor. But, there is no point to
even debating this with you because you are never going to see it
because you are going to deny the obvious. Yes, I have to deal with
vendors just like everyone else in this industry. It is a fact of life.
But, I don't have to like it and no, generally, I almost NEVER meet with
vendors and when I do, it is for specific purposes, I get in, get the
information and get out.

Finally, you have obviously shown your bias by claiming that I claim to
be the "all ethical" sort. And to my knowledge, I have no "ethics test"
that I have created. This is a blatant mis-characterization and exposes
your bias. I am not, nor ever will be "all ethical" and "holier than
thou". I have
*different* ethics apparently than many on this board, but I have never
claimed to be perfect or that my ethics are the end all, be all. Yes, I
have paid to attend conventions, I have paid to be a Microsoft
"partner". In some strict ethical vaccuum those may be considered
unethical, but this is the real world. And besides that, there is a
clear, bright line between paying a vendor to attend a convention and
accepting a pure gift from a vendor. That bright line is what I have
been talking about, but you are never going to see it because you will
never admit to the obvious and just want to pick a fight.

And yes, for all of you out there, I am nearly certain that, in my
youth, I accepted direct gifts from vendors. I cannot recall any
particular occassion, but I'm willing to bet that it probably occurred.
And guess what? I stopped that long, long, long ago because IT IS WRONG.

So, to sum it up, you have no credibility that you have been "offended"
in any way because there have been lots more offensive stuff said that
you have not said boo about. And, you are in self-denial about the
DISTINCT difference between accepting a pure gift from a vendor and
PAYING that vendor to attend a convention, etc. Here's a hint. One costs
you money, the other doesn't.

> I am not "quibbling" with what you said, I'm instead taking offense at
> what you said.  You see, you can't claim to be the "all ethical" sort 
> you want, if you can't even pass the ethics test of your own making.  
> I didn't post any of those points on your website, someone from YOUR 
> company did, and you are the one claiming to hold them near and dear.
> 
> How interesting that you choose to respond ONLY to one point, and then
> make irrelevant statements about people calling you names.
> 
> Since I didn't call you names sir, perhaps you should go back and
> re-read the whole message.  It's not that I consider you a liar, or 
> that you are stupid.  I now consider you incapable of having any type 
> of intelligent discussion based on the fact that you choose to ignore 
> 2/3rds of what was posted, or should I just assume that you chose not 

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

[Bob Sadler]

Well, here we have an interesting turn of events.

"I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit
reading."

Well, ok, then let me re-phrase what I said, and I will make it short
and sweet, so your attention span doesn't have a chance to wander.

Shut up or leave the list.



Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit reading. 

I do not claim that all MVP's are Microsoft wh0res. I simply don't claim
that. In fact, I have posted things in direct opposition to that claim.
If you are going to make such blatant mis-characterizations, then I am
not going to respond to the rest of your post, which I can only assume
you will then take as "proof" that you are right or that I "cannot make
rational arguments" or whatever other non-sense you want to claim.

"Ethical god"? Please. I have, nor ever will claim to be an "ethical
god". I have my set of ethics that I follow, period. And I did not bring
up this whole point of ethics on this list. I posted an email about
"Migrating from GroupWise 6.5" that then degenerated into this mess.
Thank your buddy Ed for that.

And about this claim that I am not following my own ethical guidelines.
Hey, there may be some truth to it. I haven't seen any proof from what
miserable evidence you have supplied, but I am more than willing to
admit that I may not live up to every single bit of the ethical code
that I have. Know what? It doesn't matter. An ethical code is the
ceiling, it is what everyone should aspire to, but it is not expected
that everyone will ALWAYS actually achieve every single little detail.
That's not what ethics is about. The laws are the floor, the ethical
code the ceiling, aspire to get as close to the ceiling as possible. All
I can say is that I try my absolute hardest, every day, to meet my own
ethical standards. Do I succeed every day? No, but I TRY.

Finally, just because the officer that tickets you for speeding murdered
his wife last night doesn't mean that you DIDN'T break the law for
speeding.


> I have no credibility because I don't say BOO?  Ok then...BOO
> 
> Do I get credibility now?
> 
> In all seriousness, I'm not the one who claims that all MVP's are 
> Microsoft Whores or that MVP's are doing anything wrong in their 
> world. Since, you are the one that brought up the point of ethics, I 
> assumed it was you that were claiming to be the "ethical god" here.  
> Perhaps your pointing out that you don't accept gifts because of your 
> ethics was where I went astray.
> 
> As for the litmus test you are under, I suggest you read your own 
> website.  YOU are working for that company, and YOU are the one that 
> should be upholding ALL the virtues of that company, not me, not ED, 
> not TONY, heck, not even DON; only you!  You don't like what your 
> company puts up as a litmus test, then I suggest you find a job 
> elsewhere.
> 
> One thing still stands, you still aren't drumming up business in this 
> list when you "explode" on potential customers.  I hope you never 
> decide to come calling on my account, I'm sure your boss would like to

> know the reason I refused you a meeting was because you don't know 
> when to shut up.
> 
> As for the name-calling that goes on this list, I suggest you shut up,

> sit back, and learn.  Sure, Ed, Tony, and Don (and a few more) can 
> certainly be grating on someone's nerves, but I will promise you, they

> know more about Exchange Systems then you could wish to know in a 
> lifetime.  While I don't choose to instruct in the same way these 
> people do, I certainly understand where they get to the point and call

> someone an idiot for not looking up an issue like "How do I turn on my

> computer" before posting it to the list.
> 
> Remember, the people on this list are under ZERO obligation to help 
> you, or anyone else.  When they do choose to help, they can save your 
> butt more times then not.  But they WILL NOT, nor should the be 
> expected to, put up with damn fools that ask a question that would be 
> answered faster if that person would have taken the time to research 
> the question themselves.
> 
> Sure, I don't like being called Lazy, but I promise, it took only once

> from ED to make me understand that I better research the hell out of 
> something before I bring it here.  Even then, I don't expect Ed, or 
> the rest, to be nice when it's a stupid ass mistake I made myself and 
> have no one to blame but myself.
> 

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

[Bob Sadler]

Since he's only a Sales Manager, I wouldn't think he would have billable
hours to clients.  It's not like he's an MVP :)



Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


I am so very, very touched by your concern. Never fear, I keep such
activities as this list well separated from hours billed to clients.

> Greg,
> 
> I hope that you are not typing these long marathon e-mail responses on

> your clients' time.  That could be an ethical dilemma.
> 
> Eric Fretz
> 
> L-3 Communications
> ComCept Division
> 2800 Discovery Blvd.
> Rockwall, TX 75032
> tel:   972.772.7501
> fax:  972.772.7510
> 

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RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

[Bob Sadler]

I have no credibility because I don't say BOO?  Ok then...BOO

Do I get credibility now?

In all seriousness, I'm not the one who claims that all MVP's are
Microsoft Whores or that MVP's are doing anything wrong in their world.
Since, you are the one that brought up the point of ethics, I assumed it
was you that were claiming to be the "ethical god" here.  Perhaps your
pointing out that you don't accept gifts because of your ethics was
where I went astray.

As for the litmus test you are under, I suggest you read your own
website.  YOU are working for that company, and YOU are the one that
should be upholding ALL the virtues of that company, not me, not ED, not
TONY, heck, not even DON; only you!  You don't like what your company
puts up as a litmus test, then I suggest you find a job elsewhere.

One thing still stands, you still aren't drumming up business in this
list when you "explode" on potential customers.  I hope you never decide
to come calling on my account, I'm sure your boss would like to know the
reason I refused you a meeting was because you don't know when to shut
up.

As for the name-calling that goes on this list, I suggest you shut up,
sit back, and learn.  Sure, Ed, Tony, and Don (and a few more) can
certainly be grating on someone's nerves, but I will promise you, they
know more about Exchange Systems then you could wish to know in a
lifetime.  While I don't choose to instruct in the same way these people
do, I certainly understand where they get to the point and call someone
an idiot for not looking up an issue like "How do I turn on my computer"
before posting it to the list.

Remember, the people on this list are under ZERO obligation to help you,
or anyone else.  When they do choose to help, they can save your butt
more times then not.  But they WILL NOT, nor should the be expected to,
put up with damn fools that ask a question that would be answered faster
if that person would have taken the time to research the question
themselves.

Sure, I don't like being called Lazy, but I promise, it took only once
from ED to make me understand that I better research the hell out of
something before I bring it here.  Even then, I don't expect Ed, or the
rest, to be nice when it's a stupid ass mistake I made myself and have
no one to blame but myself.

You don't like the people in this list, change to a different list.  But
don't complain about the free service you get here, just because you
don't like it when someone calls you a stupid fool for not doing your
homework before you got here.



Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


First, you have no credibility on the point. You find the phrase "I
finish them (fights)" offensive but not someone being called a "liar",
"stupid", "idiot", "wife beater". You simply have zaro credibility.

Second, as for your other two points, our customers and potential
customers are made well aware of any and all potential conflicts of
interest. We practice full disclosure. In addition, meeting with a
vendor to talk about their new products is in no way even CLOSE to
accepting a title or gift from said vendor. But, there is no point to
even debating this with you because you are never going to see it
because you are going to deny the obvious. Yes, I have to deal with
vendors just like everyone else in this industry. It is a fact of life.
But, I don't have to like it and no, generally, I almost NEVER meet with
vendors and when I do, it is for specific purposes, I get in, get the
information and get out.

Finally, you have obviously shown your bias by claiming that I claim to
be the "all ethical" sort. And to my knowledge, I have no "ethics test"
that I have created. This is a blatant mis-characterization and exposes
your bias. I am not, nor ever will be "all ethical" and "holier than
thou". I have *different* ethics apparently than many on this board, but
I have never claimed to be perfect or that my ethics are the end all, be
all. Yes, I have paid to attend conventions, I have paid to be a
Microsoft "partner". In some strict ethical vaccuum those may be
considered unethical, but this is the real world. And besides that,
there is a clear, bright line between paying a vendor to attend a
convention and accepting a pure gift from a vendor. That bright line is
what I have been talking about, but you are never going to see it
because you will never admit to the obvious and just want to pick a
fight.

And yes, for all of you out there, I am nearly certain that, in my
youth, I accepted direct gifts from vendors. I cannot recall any
particular occassion, but I'm willing to bet tha

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

[Bob Sadler]

I am not "quibbling" with what you said, I'm instead taking offense at
what you said.  You see, you can't claim to be the "all ethical" sort
you want, if you can't even pass the ethics test of your own making.  I
didn't post any of those points on your website, someone from YOUR
company did, and you are the one claiming to hold them near and dear.

How interesting that you choose to respond ONLY to one point, and then
make irrelevant statements about people calling you names.

Since I didn't call you names sir, perhaps you should go back and
re-read the whole message.  It's not that I consider you a liar, or that
you are stupid.  I now consider you incapable of having any type of
intelligent discussion based on the fact that you choose to ignore
2/3rds of what was posted, or should I just assume that you chose not to
discuss those points because you couldn't keep your "I have my Ethics"
argument and all this would be moot?

Speaking of MOOT, can anyone tell me what top 10 classic rock single
contains the word "MOOT"?



Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


So you are going to quibble with things that "I" said? You people are so
whacked out that it is utterly incomprehensible. So where were you when
I was called a "liar" or a "wife beater" or "stupid" or "idiot" or that
I "starve children". All of that is OK in your whacky bizarro world, but
explaining to someone that if you start a fight (in email for Christ's
sake) that I will finish that fight. Oh that is TERRIBLE! How could you
SAY such a thing. Never mind the "liar", "stupid", "idiot" stuff, THAT,
sir, is uncalled for.

Bob, you amaze me.

> You know, I'm just as happy to NOT read this dribble, but when someone

> points out so wonderfully how ethical they are, and we can all go to 
> www.infonition.com/ethics.shtml to prove it, then someone like me just

> might go there and read, and low and behold what is it we find?
> 
> Well, this character Greg, wants us all to believe his "ethics" are 
> without question.  So, let's take a look at his ethics page and see 
> what he's supposed to be doing.
> 
> First, Greg's point of vendor conflict is answered here:
> 
> To never accept compensation from vendors for recommending products=20
> 
> One must ask then Greg, have you ever been to a seminar, conference, 
> or LUNCH where the vendor presenting paid for the meal, the snacks, 
> the coffee?
> 
> Second, Greg's list of ethics claim:
> 
> To disclose any and all influences that may affect our 
> recommendations=20
> 
> Greg, does this mean that if I were to speak to you over the phone, 
> you would tell me just how many times your Cisco, Microsoft, Bay 
> Networks, etc., Rep. has called?  Or are you saying that you never 
> meet with the vendors to discuss how their products can benefit your 
> customers?  Do you ever read trade magazines that discuss the use of 
> one vendors products over another?  Will you then tell me all the 
> magazines you read, what date, publication, page number, etc?
> 
> Third, Greg's list goes on to say:
> 
> To be fair and accurate when resolving disputes, problems or issues 
> [and] To conduct ourselves in a professional manner at all times=20
> 
> One must ask then Greg, exactly how does your statement of: "Wrong. 
> You brought it up by throwing stones my way. I don't pick fights, I 
> finish them." work into these statements?
> 
> This is just what I don't need in a vendor.  Someone who believes he's

> always right, and if he is going to have a fight with his customers, 
> HE'S going to finish it.  I can see now why people flock to your 
> organization Greg.
> 
> The point is, don't say something matters a great deal to you, and 
> then give this list plenty of examples showing that apparently it 
> doesn't. You want to wave a flag around and say "I have ethics" and 
> yet not live by those same ethics, then be prepared to be inundated 
> with the onslaught.
> 
> I would trust Ed, Tom, Tony, and even Don, further then I would trust 
> someone yelling about how ethical they are and at the same time say 
> they'll finish any fight.
> 
> It's time to throttle back now greg, and realize this.  You are a 
> Sales Manager for a company that apparently you are supposed to be 
> drumming up business for.  Just how much business do you think you 
> have generated on this list after acting in the manner you did?
> 
>

RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

[Bob Sadler]

You know, I'm just as happy to NOT read this dribble, but when someone
points out so wonderfully how ethical they are, and we can all go to
www.infonition.com/ethics.shtml to prove it, then someone like me just
might go there and read, and low and behold what is it we find?

Well, this character Greg, wants us all to believe his "ethics" are
without question.  So, let's take a look at his ethics page and see what
he's supposed to be doing.

First, Greg's point of vendor conflict is answered here:

To never accept compensation from vendors for recommending products 

One must ask then Greg, have you ever been to a seminar, conference, or
LUNCH where the vendor presenting paid for the meal, the snacks, the
coffee?

Second, Greg's list of ethics claim:

To disclose any and all influences that may affect our recommendations 

Greg, does this mean that if I were to speak to you over the phone, you
would tell me just how many times your Cisco, Microsoft, Bay Networks,
etc., Rep. has called?  Or are you saying that you never meet with the
vendors to discuss how their products can benefit your customers?  Do
you ever read trade magazines that discuss the use of one vendors
products over another?  Will you then tell me all the magazines you
read, what date, publication, page number, etc?

Third, Greg's list goes on to say:

To be fair and accurate when resolving disputes, problems or issues
[and] To conduct ourselves in a professional manner at all times 

One must ask then Greg, exactly how does your statement of: "Wrong. You
brought it up by throwing stones my way. I don't pick fights, I finish
them." work into these statements?

This is just what I don't need in a vendor.  Someone who believes he's
always right, and if he is going to have a fight with his customers,
HE'S going to finish it.  I can see now why people flock to your
organization Greg.

The point is, don't say something matters a great deal to you, and then
give this list plenty of examples showing that apparently it doesn't.
You want to wave a flag around and say "I have ethics" and yet not live
by those same ethics, then be prepared to be inundated with the
onslaught.

I would trust Ed, Tom, Tony, and even Don, further then I would trust
someone yelling about how ethical they are and at the same time say
they'll finish any fight.

It's time to throttle back now greg, and realize this.  You are a Sales
Manager for a company that apparently you are supposed to be drumming up
business for.  Just how much business do you think you have generated on
this list after acting in the manner you did?

Bob Sadler

-Original Message-
From: Walker, Heath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 8:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


Ban him?  Why?  I hold him single handedly responsible for this lists
entertainment value surpassing that of its technical value.  

-heath

-Original Message-
From: Erik L. Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

Why not ban him?  Surely there is a anti-spam filter on this list?

This person seems to be interested in 'stoking' the fires of a few so
confrontation may incur.  

Erik L. Vesneski 
Intel Lead - WCDC/ISO 
www.pmigroup.com 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




-Original Message-
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


Wrong. You brought it up by throwing stones my way. I don't pick fights,
I finish them.

> So why did you feel the need to change the thread to post the exact
> same nonsense you've been spouting all along?  Don't say that we keep 
> bringing this up.  All I in the second post in the original thread was

> that I'm a "vendor whore".  You took over and started with your silly,

> unjustified position.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
> 
> OK, for some reason beyond my comprehension people seem to have this
> odd fascination with my views on ethics in IT. They are so fascinated 
> that every time I post something to this list, they bring it up. In 
> the interests of trying to move past this, you can get your fix of my 
> crazed views on ethics in the form of a free monthly newsletter, The 
> IT Ethics Newsletter.
> 
> Details can 

RE: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw?

[Bob Sadler]

So to fix this, send beer to Tom, then to Martin, then Ben, then me :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw?


I'm thinking the same thing. 
I imagine this guy managed to flub up his install some way or another
and now it's a bug to him 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 8:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw?

I haven't seen any reports of this on any of the newsgroups or anywhere
else.  If it was this big of a flaw, I suspect there would be a big
stink about it. 


Ben Winzenz
Network Engineer
Gardner & White
(317) 581-1580 ext 418


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:12 AM
Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
Conversation: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw?
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw?


That's because "Microsoft knows of the issue but does not have a fix
yet".  

> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:10 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw?
> 
> 
> I have not heard of it...
> 
> 
> Ben Winzenz
> Network Engineer
> Gardner & White
> (317) 581-1580 ext 418
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
> Friday, November 21, 2003 10:57 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk)
> Conversation: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw?
> Subject: Exchange 2003 OWA Flaw?
> 
> 
> Is this BS or has anyone else heard of this "flaw"?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Windows NTBugtraq Mailing List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Johnson
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 10:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Exchange 2003 OWA major security flaw
> 
>  
> 
> We have upgraded our servers to Microsoft Exchange 2003 and noticed a
> severe security issue with OWA. When you log in with your own 
> credentials you may be logged into another user's mailbox at random 
> and has full access to this user's mailbox. Microsoft knows of the 
> issue but does not have a fix yet. I was wondering how many others 
> have seen this issue and have received the same answer from Microsoft.
> 
> This seems to be a major security flaw and we have had to shut off OWA

> indefinitely because of the issue.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Matthew Johnson CCNA
> 
> Network Administrator
> 
> Investment Scorecard, Inc.
> 
> 615.301.7611
> 
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RE: Web outlook woes

[Bob Sadler]

Damn firewall...I told them I didn't really need that thing!



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


I did send it.
I think you're firewall blocked it...



John Parker, MCSE
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-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


Does this mean you aren't sending beer?



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


Just removed the URLscan.
And the problem went away.



John Parker, MCSE
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Alpha Video
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952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

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-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


Send Beer



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
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913-339-6700 x194



-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


That was it. (URLscan)
I have no idea why none of my users have complained about this until
now. The system has been running since May!

Thanks everyone, you rock!!!



John Parker, MCSE
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


Exchange version please. 

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Web outlook woes

Hey all...

I am experiencing some Web outlook issues.
When my users log into web outlook, the will get (random) page cannot be
found errors. I have yet to be able to find anything as to why...

But I do notice that it happens to the larger emails, 500kb to 1mb.

Anyone seen anything likr this?




John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best Practices materials


Write them all down and then tell them it's written procedure.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
[MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best Practices materials


Why not share your controversial procedures and let us commend you or
shoot them down?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pat karr
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Best Practices materials

Does anyone have a template for best practices when MS Exchange is being
used by an org?

I keep having to explain to users that it is industry standand or it's
org. procedure that we do things a certain way but I don't have anything
in writing that dictates those explanations.  I would be very grateful
if someone knows of a link or your own procedures manual that I could
follow.

best regards,

Pat  

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RE: Web outlook woes

[Bob Sadler]

Does this mean you aren't sending beer?



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
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913-339-6700 x194

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


Just removed the URLscan.
And the problem went away.



John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
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-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


Send Beer



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
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913-339-6700 x194



-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


That was it. (URLscan)
I have no idea why none of my users have complained about this until
now. The system has been running since May!

Thanks everyone, you rock!!!



John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---




-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


Exchange version please. 

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Web outlook woes

Hey all...

I am experiencing some Web outlook issues.
When my users log into web outlook, the will get (random) page cannot be
found errors. I have yet to be able to find anything as to why...

But I do notice that it happens to the larger emails, 500kb to 1mb.

Anyone seen anything likr this?




John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---




-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best Practices materials


Write them all down and then tell them it's written procedure.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
[MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best Practices materials


Why not share your controversial procedures and let us commend you or
shoot them down?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pat karr
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Best Practices materials

Does anyone have a template for best practices when MS Exchange is being
used by an org?

I keep having to explain to users that it is industry standand or it's
org. procedure that we do things a certain way but I don't have anything
in writing that dictates those explanations.  I would be very grateful
if someone knows of a link or your own procedures manual that I could
follow.

best regards,

Pat  

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RE: Web outlook woes

[Bob Sadler]

Send Beer



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
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913-339-6700 x194



-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


That was it. (URLscan)
I have no idea why none of my users have complained about this until
now. The system has been running since May!

Thanks everyone, you rock!!!



John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
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-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Web outlook woes


Exchange version please. 

-Original Message-
From: John Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Web outlook woes

Hey all...

I am experiencing some Web outlook issues.
When my users log into web outlook, the will get (random) page cannot be
found errors. I have yet to be able to find anything as to why...

But I do notice that it happens to the larger emails, 500kb to 1mb.

Anyone seen anything likr this?




John Parker, MCSE
IS Admin.
Senior Technical Specialist
Alpha Display Systems.

Alpha Video
7711 Computer Ave.
Edina, MN. 55435
 
952-896-9898 Local
800-388-0008 Watts
952-896-9899 Fax
612-804-8769 Cell
952-841-3327 Direct

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Be excellent to each other"
---End of Line---




-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best Practices materials


Write them all down and then tell them it's written procedure.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
[MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best Practices materials


Why not share your controversial procedures and let us commend you or
shoot them down?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pat karr
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Best Practices materials

Does anyone have a template for best practices when MS Exchange is being
used by an org?

I keep having to explain to users that it is industry standand or it's
org. procedure that we do things a certain way but I don't have anything
in writing that dictates those explanations.  I would be very grateful
if someone knows of a link or your own procedures manual that I could
follow.

best regards,

Pat  

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RE: AOL is Blocking Mail from My Exchange Server 5.5

[Bob Sadler]

Have you asked Ed to? :)  *DUCKS*

Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist

-Original Message-
From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AOL is Blocking Mail from My Exchange Server 5.5


Mongo change ISP.


-Original Message-
From: Jim Underwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 3:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: AOL is Blocking Mail from My Exchange Server 5.5


I would if I could.

Earthlink does NOT offer a static IP for cable internet accounts.
Earthlink will NOT provide any DNS services, like making a PTR record.

Best Regards,
JMU

Jim Underwood




-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 14:40
To: Jim Underwood
Subject: RE: AOL is Blocking Mail from My Exchange Server 5.5


Why don't you just go with a static IP and make sure you have a valid
reverse ptr record?

-Original Message-
From: Jim Underwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: AOL is Blocking Mail from My Exchange Server 5.5


When any user on our Exchange Server 5.5 tries to send an EMail to AOL
or an AOL company (Like cs.com), he receives the following nondelivery
notice:

===
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

  Subject:  Test Msg to cs.com
  Sent: 11/06/03 13:41

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/06/03 13:41
Unable to deliver the message due to a communications
failure
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=ApolloInfoSys;l=APOLLO1-031106194050Z-1991
===

The Exchange Server is on an Earthlink Cable Internet network with
dynamic IP.

I have read that there may be two reasons for rejecting the mail:
1.  Incorrect reverse DNS
2.  AOL blocks all EMail from the broadband user networks like
Earthlink.net


So it would appear that I need to find an EMail host that I can relay
our outbound mail to.

===
MY QUESTIONS:
===
1. Do you agree with my assessment of the problem?  
   If not, what do you think it is and how can I fix it?
2. Can you recommend an EMail host that will accept relay from
our Exchange Server 5.5?


BACKGROUND INFO:

Mail Server is  Apollo1.ApolloIS.com
IP is   24.238.172.104
Reverse DNS is: user-0cetb38.cable.mindspring.com


Best Regards,
JMU


Jim Underwood
Apollo Information Systems, Inc.



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RE: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME From exceeds maximum threshold

[Bob Sadler]

Make a distribution list that goes nowhere and put those email addresses
that you are getting spammed with there.  Acts as a blackhole, eating up
junk and never gives an NDR :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 


-Original Message-
From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME
>From exceeds maximum threshold


I'm sorry , I meant blocking SMTP sender's NDR . Essentially trying to
block SPAMMERS a response for those mails which bounce back to them
because of a wrong e-mail address spelling or mail bound for someone who
no more exists with my company. As I wrote we'll manually monitor those
mails (as we already do now) in a separate exchange mailbox. 


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: [SPAM-FILT] - RE: NDR Question - Number of numbers in MIME From
exceeds maximum threshold

Why would you do that?
NDR's are a very necessary tool. How is someone that is trying to email
the CEO know that his important message did not get delivered?

-Original Message-
From: Gagrani, Kishore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NDR Question

Hi everyone,

I was wondering , if there is a way I can stop NDR to senders and still
have copies of NDRs sent to a mailbox within same exchange organization
? I looked all KB but couldn't find a way to do this. I'm running
Exchange 2k-SP3.

Any help or direction in this regards will be greatly appreciated,

Thanks
Kishore

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RE: Urgent & Confidential

[Bob Sadler]

Really?  I can't believe that!  I mean you have to believe there are
hundreds of banks with this very problem!  Who in their right mind would
not take advantage to get all that money!  You could be richer then Bill
Gates in no time!



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 


-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent & Confidential


There was an article a few months back in a local newspaper about some
people who reacted on a similar mail, they turn out to request headed
paper, bank account numbers, swift codes etc... In the end their savings
account was empty, and not the other way around... K/

-Original Message-----
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: woensdag 27 augustus 2003 18:03
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent & Confidential


Hundreds?

Wow!  You could rolling in the cash if you just respond!*



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 

*Note - I'm being factitious of course
-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent & Confidential


We get hundreds of those every day. How did he get on this list? Did he
subscribe?

Kind regards, 
Kim Schotanus
===
Kim Schotanus
Information Systems Manager
 
INTAS
Avenue des Arts 58
B-1000 Brussels
Belgium
 
T. +32 2 549 01 11
F. +32 2 549 01 56
 
===


-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: woensdag 27 augustus 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent & Confidential


Onuigbo is my new buddy. Always wanted a lawyer friend called Onuigbo

From: "Bob Sadler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Urgent & Confidential
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:04:26 -0500

WOW!  25 Million Dollars!  SIGN ME UP NOW!



Bob Sadler
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913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68


-Original Message-
From: Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Urgent & Confidential


Dear Sir/Madam,

I am Mr. Onuigbo Baldwin Gozie, Bank Manager of Diamond Bank, Lagos
Branch. I have urgent and very confidential business proposition for you
Mr. Barry Kelly made a numbered time (Fixed) deposited for twelve
calendar months, valued at US$25,000,000.00 (Twenty-five Million
Dollars) in my branch. Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to
his forwarding address but got no reply. After a month, we sent a
reminder and finally we discovered from his contract employers, Nigerian
National Petroleum Corporation that Mr. Barry Kelly died from an
automobile accident. On further investigation, I found out that he did
not leave a WILL and all attempts to trace his next of kin were
fruitless. I therefore made further investigation and discovered that
Mr. Barry Kelly did not declare any next of kin in all his official
documents, including his Bank Deposit paperwork. This sum of
US$25,000,000.00 is still sitting in the Bank and the interest is being
rolled over with the principal sum at the end of each year. No one will
come forward to claim it. According to the Nigerian Law, at the
expiration of 6{Six} years, the money will revert to the ownership of
the Nigerian Government if nobody applies to claim the funds
Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a foreigner to
stand in as the next of kin to Mr. Barry Kelly so that the fruits of
this old man's labor will not get into the hands of some corrupt
government officials. This is simple;

1) I will like you to provide me immediately with your full names and
address so that the attorney will prepare the necessary documents and
affidavits, which will put you in place as the next of kin.

2) We shall employ the services of two attorneys for drafting and
notarization of the WILL and obtain the necessary documents and letter
of probate/administration in your favor for the transfer.

3) A bank account in any part of the world, which you provide, will then
facilitate the transfer of this money to you as the beneficiary/next of
kin of Mr. Barry Kelly. The money will be paid into your account for us
to share in the ratio of 75% for me and 20% for you then 5% will be set
aside for any expenses that may occur during the transfer process. There
is no

RE: Urgent & Confidential

[Bob Sadler]

Hundreds?

Wow!  You could rolling in the cash if you just respond!*



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

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*Note - I'm being factitious of course
-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent & Confidential


We get hundreds of those every day. How did he get on this list? Did he
subscribe?

Kind regards, 
Kim Schotanus
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-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: woensdag 27 augustus 2003 16:08
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Urgent & Confidential


Onuigbo is my new buddy. Always wanted a lawyer friend called Onuigbo

From: "Bob Sadler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Urgent & Confidential
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 09:04:26 -0500

WOW!  25 Million Dollars!  SIGN ME UP NOW!



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68


-Original Message-
From: Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Urgent & Confidential


Dear Sir/Madam,

I am Mr. Onuigbo Baldwin Gozie, Bank Manager of Diamond Bank, Lagos
Branch. I have urgent and very confidential business proposition for you
Mr. Barry Kelly made a numbered time (Fixed) deposited for twelve
calendar months, valued at US$25,000,000.00 (Twenty-five Million
Dollars) in my branch. Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to
his forwarding address but got no reply. After a month, we sent a
reminder and finally we discovered from his contract employers, Nigerian
National Petroleum Corporation that Mr. Barry Kelly died from an
automobile accident. On further investigation, I found out that he did
not leave a WILL and all attempts to trace his next of kin were
fruitless. I therefore made further investigation and discovered that
Mr. Barry Kelly did not declare any next of kin in all his official
documents, including his Bank Deposit paperwork. This sum of
US$25,000,000.00 is still sitting in the Bank and the interest is being
rolled over with the principal sum at the end of each year. No one will
come forward to claim it. According to the Nigerian Law, at the
expiration of 6{Six} years, the money will revert to the ownership of
the Nigerian Government if nobody applies to claim the funds
Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a foreigner to
stand in as the next of kin to Mr. Barry Kelly so that the fruits of
this old man's labor will not get into the hands of some corrupt
government officials. This is simple;

1) I will like you to provide me immediately with your full names and
address so that the attorney will prepare the necessary documents and
affidavits, which will put you in place as the next of kin.

2) We shall employ the services of two attorneys for drafting and
notarization of the WILL and obtain the necessary documents and letter
of probate/administration in your favor for the transfer.

3) A bank account in any part of the world, which you provide, will then
facilitate the transfer of this money to you as the beneficiary/next of
kin of Mr. Barry Kelly. The money will be paid into your account for us
to share in the ratio of 75% for me and 20% for you then 5% will be set
aside for any expenses that may occur during the transfer process. There
is no risk at all as all the paperwork for this transaction will be done
by the attorney and my position as the Branch Manager guarantees the
successful execution of this transaction.  If you are interested, please
reply immediately via the private Tel/Fax numbers above. Upon your
response, which will include your personal Tel/Fax numbers I shall then
provide you with more details and relevant documents that will help you
understand. Please observe utmost confidentiality, and rest assured that
this transaction would be most profitable for both of us because I shall
require your assistance to invest my share in your country. A swift
acknowledgement on the receipt of this mail will be appreciated.

Thanks and regards,
Onuigbo Baldwin Gozie Esq.



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RE: Urgent & Confidential

[Bob Sadler]

WOW!  25 Million Dollars!  SIGN ME UP NOW!



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-Original Message-
From: Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Urgent & Confidential


Dear Sir/Madam,

I am Mr. Onuigbo Baldwin Gozie, Bank Manager of Diamond Bank, Lagos
Branch. I have urgent and very confidential business proposition for you
Mr. Barry Kelly made a numbered time (Fixed) deposited for twelve
calendar months, valued at US$25,000,000.00 (Twenty-five Million
Dollars) in my branch. Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to
his forwarding address but got no reply. After a month, we sent a
reminder and finally we discovered from his contract employers, Nigerian
National Petroleum Corporation that Mr. Barry Kelly died from an
automobile accident. On further investigation, I found out that he did
not leave a WILL and all attempts to trace his next of kin were
fruitless. I therefore made further investigation and discovered that
Mr. Barry Kelly did not declare any next of kin in all his official
documents, including his Bank Deposit paperwork. This sum of
US$25,000,000.00 is still sitting in the Bank and the interest is being
rolled over with the principal sum at the end of each year. No one will
come forward to claim it. According to the Nigerian Law, at the
expiration of 6{Six} years, the money will revert to the ownership of
the Nigerian Government if nobody applies to claim the funds
Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a foreigner to
stand in as the next of kin to Mr. Barry Kelly so that the fruits of
this old man's labor will not get into the hands of some corrupt
government officials. This is simple;

1) I will like you to provide me immediately with your full names and
address so that the attorney will prepare the necessary documents and
affidavits, which will put you in place as the next of kin.

2) We shall employ the services of two attorneys for drafting and
notarization of the WILL and obtain the necessary documents and letter
of probate/administration in your favor for the transfer.

3) A bank account in any part of the world, which you provide, will then
facilitate the transfer of this money to you as the beneficiary/next of
kin of Mr. Barry Kelly. The money will be paid into your account for us
to share in the ratio of 75% for me and 20% for you then 5% will be set
aside for any expenses that may occur during the transfer process. There
is no risk at all as all the paperwork for this transaction will be done
by the attorney and my position as the Branch Manager guarantees the
successful execution of this transaction.  If you are interested, please
reply immediately via the private Tel/Fax numbers above. Upon your
response, which will include your personal Tel/Fax numbers I shall then
provide you with more details and relevant documents that will help you
understand. Please observe utmost confidentiality, and rest assured that
this transaction would be most profitable for both of us because I shall
require your assistance to invest my share in your country. A swift
acknowledgement on the receipt of this mail will be appreciated. 

Thanks and regards,
Onuigbo Baldwin Gozie Esq.



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RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue

[Bob Sadler]

You order that rum and coke a few times and it seems like anything is
possible.



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City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue


How do they work on airplanes?

> From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:10:02 -0400
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> 
> Of course, this being an Exchange list, Im pretty sure you meant it 
> was tough using Outlook locally on a laptop with Citrix. Sure enough 
> it is. Well, in fact, its damn near impossible. We have both VPN and 
> Citrix here and since we implemented Citrix, none of the laptop users 
> use the VPN anymore or sync their files offline. For the end-user, 
> Citrix is a no-brainer it seems.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> 
> 
>>> From within Citrix, its simply a matter of copying over the file you

>>> need
> to
>> work on to your local drive on the laptop.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
>> 
>> 
>>> Makes laptop use a little tough though.
>>> 
>>>> From: "Hague, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:23:15 -0400
>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
>>>> 
>>>> Definitely more costly but it really works well. The setup and
>> configuration
>>>> aspects alone (client-side anyway) are much simpler and the
> performance
>> is
>>>> probably much better than a straight VPN solution. I think if you 
>>>> look
>> it at
>>>> all the factors there is a positive "ROI".
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:43 PM
>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That's certainly an option, but a much more costly one IMHO.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 5:43 PM
>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
>>>> 
>>>> Have you considered Terminal Server or (better yet) Citrix? This 
>>>> works wonders for us - full Outlook & Exchange as well as all the 
>>>> other apps
>> we
>>>> run. We only have a dozen or so users so far but my understanding 
>>>> is
>> that
>>>> Terminal by itself on one decent server (dual Xeon 2.0GHz/1.5GB 
>>>> RAM)
> is
>> fine
>>>> for 20 or so clients simultaneously. Beyond that, Citrix  on top of
>> Terminal
>>>> is the way to go. Citrix also provides better support for local
>> printers,
>>>> sound cards, etc plus a host of additional functionality.  Either 1
>> requires
>>>> only a single port through the firewall which hasnt been blocked by
> any
>> ISPs
>>>> (yet?) and the traffic is already encrypted although I dont imagine
> its
>> as
>>>> "tight" as most VPN solutions. The other thing we found so 
>>>> convenient
> is
>> the
>>>> "Advanced" Terminal client which is simply a web page that loads 
>>>> the
>> client
>>>> software through an ActiveX control in an IE session. The 
>>>> directions
> to
>> get
>>>> our clients set up was litterally "

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

[Bob Sadler]

Let me see, Ed, Chris and myself...beer?  Hmmm...that's a distinctive
possibility.



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City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

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-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Is there going to be beer involved? That would make it doubly fun.  

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

If you're paying, I'll come mock you too.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Call me next time you are in town, and I'll go with you so you can mock
me all during lunch :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Makes a note to stop by and mock Bob on my way to Gates next time I am
in town.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, August
19, 2003 10:50 AM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Irregardless Chris, anyways you look at it, the whole thing was a mess!



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
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913-339-6700 x194

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Use the terms "anyways" or "irregardless" in my presence and I'll
correct you once. Do it again and I'll just mock you. 

And no, outside of a boxing ring, I haven't been punched in 15 years. 

-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:23 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Ok so you correct spoken grammatical errors in regular day to day
situations, and enjoy it. 

Is this with strangers?

Are you often punched?

> -Original Message-
> From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 19 August 2003 14:23
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> 
> 
> I do.
> 
> It is rather annoying to hear people speaking incorrectly.
> 
> Please drive through.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> 
> Do you enjoy correcting people's grammar when you're not on the
> internet?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 18 August 2003 19:25
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > 
> > That would be "you're".
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, 
> > Samantha
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > Can't spell when your upset.
> > 
> > I don't want to argue anymore.  I have work to do.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > 
> > Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell

> > the

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

[Bob Sadler]

Sure Ed, if you come to Kansas City, I'll buy you lunch and dinner! :)



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City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

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-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


If you're paying, I'll come mock you too.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Call me next time you are in town, and I'll go with you so you can mock
me all during lunch :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Makes a note to stop by and mock Bob on my way to Gates next time I am
in town.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:50 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Irregardless Chris, anyways you look at it, the whole thing was a mess!



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Use the terms "anyways" or "irregardless" in my presence and I'll
correct you once. Do it again and I'll just mock you. 

And no, outside of a boxing ring, I haven't been punched in 15 years. 

-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:23 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Ok so you correct spoken grammatical errors in regular day to day
situations, and enjoy it. 

Is this with strangers?

Are you often punched?

> -Original Message-
> From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 19 August 2003 14:23
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> 
> 
> I do.
> 
> It is rather annoying to hear people speaking incorrectly.
> 
> Please drive through.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> 
> Do you enjoy correcting people's grammar when you're not on the
> internet?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 18 August 2003 19:25
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > 
> > That would be "you're".
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, 
> > Samantha
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > Can't spell when your upset.
> > 
> > I don't want to argue anymore.  I have work to do.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > 
> > Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell

> > the name correctly. :-)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Serv

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

[Bob Sadler]

Call me next time you are in town, and I'll go with you so you can mock
me all during lunch :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Makes a note to stop by and mock Bob on my way to Gates next time I am
in town.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:50 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Irregardless Chris, anyways you look at it, the whole thing was a mess!



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

Get a Life!  Get TWO!  Play Second Life!
http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Use the terms "anyways" or "irregardless" in my presence and I'll
correct you once. Do it again and I'll just mock you. 

And no, outside of a boxing ring, I haven't been punched in 15 years. 

-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:23 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Ok so you correct spoken grammatical errors in regular day to day
situations, and enjoy it. 

Is this with strangers?

Are you often punched?

> -Original Message-
> From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 19 August 2003 14:23
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> 
> 
> I do.
> 
> It is rather annoying to hear people speaking incorrectly.
> 
> Please drive through.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> 
> Do you enjoy correcting people's grammar when you're not on the 
> internet?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 18 August 2003 19:25
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > 
> > That would be "you're".
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges,
> > Samantha
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > Can't spell when your upset.
> > 
> > I don't want to argue anymore.  I have work to do.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > 
> > Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell

> > the name correctly. :-)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your "only" friend
> because you
> > know Exchange??  (what a dork!)
> > 
> > I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you
> very much.  I
> > think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove 
> > yourself by being the best at a computer software.
> > 
> > Get a life.looser boy!!!
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > 
> > We can debate my "geek", "nerd" or "friends" status some other time.
> > 
> > I 

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

[Bob Sadler]

Irregardless Chris, anyways you look at it, the whole thing was a mess!



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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Use the terms "anyways" or "irregardless" in my presence and I'll
correct you once. Do it again and I'll just mock you. 

And no, outside of a boxing ring, I haven't been punched in 15 years. 

-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:23 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

Ok so you correct spoken grammatical errors in regular day to day
situations, and enjoy it. 

Is this with strangers?

Are you often punched?

> -Original Message-
> From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 19 August 2003 14:23
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> 
> 
> I do.
> 
> It is rather annoying to hear people speaking incorrectly.
> 
> Please drive through.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> 
> Do you enjoy correcting people's grammar when you're not on
> the internet? 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 18 August 2003 19:25
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > 
> > That would be "you're".
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, 
> > Samantha
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > Can't spell when your upset.
> > 
> > I don't want to argue anymore.  I have work to do.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > 
> > Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell

> > the name correctly. :-)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your "only" friend
> because you
> > know Exchange??  (what a dork!)
> > 
> > I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you
> very much.  I
> > think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove
> > yourself by being the best at a computer software.
> > 
> > Get a life.looser boy!!!
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
> > 
> > 
> > We can debate my "geek", "nerd" or "friends" status some other time.
> > 
> > I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here
> Samantha.  I'm
> 
> > a messaging services manager, running communications for a company 
> > with offices all over the world
> > - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of sites in it.
> > The people whose opinions I actually care about in the 
> technical arena
> 
> > know what I know and/or can do.
> > 
> > Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be
> helpful.  Still
> > am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people
> > like you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting 
> > rate, and I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to 
> > post here with a complete expectation that s

Re: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

[Bob]

i typed "exchange 2000 M drive" into google and got the following

http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Neat_Exchange_2000_Server_Tricks__Yes_you_really_can_have_it_your_way.html

that should help poor sam on her way and I think the flames here have got a
little out of hand

BUT better yet Sam next time you have a problem or question goto google and
type the question in there first ?

Bob

- Original Message - 
From: "Edgington, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


But the real question is... Did you go and research the M drive and get
the answer to your question... if you didn't, then you've REALLY wasted
time.  :)




-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Sorry Bobyou are absolutely right.  I promise to remain
calmpeople picking on less educated and less fortunate people always
gets to me.

Thanks for making me see the light.

Sam

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your "only" friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my "geek", "nerd" or "friends" status some other time.

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

[Bob Sadler]

You know, for just a minute, just a fleeting minute, I sympathized with
you Sam.

You original comeback to Gary was thought out well, communicated well,
and tugged at my heart.

Of course now, you have gone and called people names and are doing to
Gary the same thing that Gary did to you, which was upsetting to you.

Is this what you teach your Special Ed children?  That getting angry and
saying mean and nasty things about a person is ok if they did it to you
first?

Hey, I totally understand your frustration.  Someone's breathing down
you neck, expecting you to get this server up and running.  I understand
you wear many different Hats, most people on this list do.  But, I don't
understand how you choose to do the same thing to Gary, that has
inflicted you with such pain; you should know better.

I honestly wish I could answer your question for you, but I'm afraid I'm
not sure what the question was now, but I doubt I could, as you were
asking something fairly advanced.  I suggest you do one of the following
three things at this point:

1).  Go to www.microsoft.com and research.  Search through the Knowledge
Base on pertinent keywords to your problem.  Try many different words
though, as MS may have your problem filed in a strange and weird way.

2).  Call PSS.  This will cost you about $300 I believe.  But those
people will be extremely helpful (and nice) and will be able to tell you
how to accomplish what you need to.

3).  Go to your boss, tell him/her that you cannot do the Exchange Admin
job and suggest they hire a Contractor for the problems.  You may even
find a Contractor that will donate his time to your non-profit
organization, if you promise to give him a letter detailing the amount
of time he has spent working on your problems for the time you employ
him.  This way he can take that as a tax deductible item in his filings
next year.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your "only" friend because you
know Exchange??  (what a dork!)

I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much.  I
think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself
by being the best at a computer software.  

Get a life.looser boy!!!


-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We can debate my "geek", "nerd" or "friends" status some other time.  

I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha.  I'm a
messaging services manager, running communications for a company with
offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of
sites in it.  The people whose opinions I actually care about in the
technical arena know what I know and/or can do.  

Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful.  Still
am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like
you. You want nice?  I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and
I'll be nice.  Hell, I'll even cook dinner.  You want to post here with
a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most
basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone
like me pissed at you.

You don't like it?  Tough.  Like you said in one of your last pieces of
drivel, don't read it.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


See, this is what I am talking about.

You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends!

LOL



-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot.

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Thanks Tony for your advice.

Why do you care what I ask on this listserv?  I thought this list was
for questions.  Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem
"stupid" to you, but they are not.  Who made you the judge of what
questions are good/helpful and which ones are not?  If you are too good
for the questions
being asked on this list then don't answer. 

I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I
wear many hats here in the name of special education child

RE: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.

[Bob Sadler]

Run the Task Manager on your Exchange Server and see what's eating up
all the CPU Pocesses.

We have this problem occasionally with mssdmn.exe running 100%
utilization.  We just kill this process and things go back to normal.

As of yet, no one at MS has been able to explain why this occurs.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

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-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5 Server hammer-age.


Until recently, our Exchange 5.5 Server has been running smoothly.
Lately however, it has been running S..L..O..W on occasions.  Our server
is older (Dell 6300 with Dual 400 MHZ processors and 1.5 GB of
memory. 700 users).  The only thing that's changed is we have
recently started upgrading some of our NT 4.0 workstations to Windows XP
workstations. Almost all those users receive the following message the
first time they logon

Outlook is retrieving data from the Microsoft Exchange Server
"Exchange". You can cancel the request or minimize this message to the
Windows taskbar until Outlook closes the message automatically.

Some of them receive the message more frequently.  Maybe the two issues
aren't related, but I thought I'd start here, since it's the only thing
that's changed recently.  Is anybody else having issues using XP
Professional with Exchange 5.5?

Thanks.

Robert


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RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server

[Bob Sadler]

Let's begin the Chant:

There is NO M Drive
There is NO M Drive
There is NO M Drive

Good...just keep repeating that to yourself.

If you need to know WHY, I suggest you pick up a good book on Exchange
administration and read it.



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-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server


Why is it there though?  Will services run without it?  Why would
M:icrosoft put that there?

Thanks

Sam

-Original Message-
From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server



> Are you being funny?  There is definitely a M: drive!  What
> is that

He's saying IGNORE the M: drive. Don't use it for anything. Don't virus
scan it! Don't back it up!

-kevin

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RE: pipe dream or possible

[Bob Sadler]

DNS?

MBLAST Virus?

DOS attack?

I'm sure we could just guess all day about this, but perhaps you can
enlighten us a bit more about how things are setup, what you have done
to diagnose the issue, when did this start, did you make changes to
something and then have this start?

If you provide clear information, perhaps the experts can help.



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-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible


Does anyone have a clue how it is possible that our network is having
severe ups and downs in connectivity. Connections to the AD and exchange
are very unstable, we have the latest AV updates (trend), switches are
ok, etc... Any clues?

Kim

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RE: Strange Exchange

[Bob Sadler]

Well, look in Norton's Virus Filter and see if they setup a limit on
message size.



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-Original Message-
From: Bruess, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Exchange


Yes to virus filter.  We use Norton, we also have a file wall but I can
find no settings for limiting the size of e-mail.



 -Original Message-
From:   Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, August 11, 2003 12:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Strange Exchange

That is exactly what he's saying.  Do you have a SMTP Gateway setup to
stop spam, or a virus filter, or both?



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-Original Message-
From: Bruess, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Exchange


Sorry, I am trying to troubleshoot a problem that I have very little
knowledge in so if I appear to be a bit slow please forgive me.  Your
statement saying exchange is not listening confuses me.  Are you saying
there is some other software running between my exchange server and the
rest of the world which is placing its limits on the mail?

 -Original Message-
From:   Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, August 11, 2003 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:Re: Strange Exchange

Again, as per the last message you posted and I responded to, this error
is not being generated by Exchange. It is being generated by whatever is
listening at your default gateway. Your mx record may be labeled
exchange.satake-usa.com, but whatever is listening isn't Exchange.

nslookup
Default Server:  m1w2ksit01.austin.messageone.com
Address:  10.0.0.246

> set q=mx
> satake-usa.com
Server:  m1w2ksit01.austin.messageone.com
Address:  10.0.0.246

Non-authoritative answer:
satake-usa.com  preference = 10, mail exchanger =
exchange.satake-usa.com

Authoritative answers can be found from:
satake-usa.com  nameserver = ns2.satake-usa.com
satake-usa.com  nameserver = ns1.satake-usa.com exchange.satake-usa.com
internet address = 66.139.24.50

telnet exchange.satake-usa.com 25
Trying 66.139.24.50...
Connected to exchange.satake-usa.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 SMTP service ready
ehlo foo.bar
250-Requested mail action okay, completed
250-HELP
250 SIZE 3072000

Whatever is listening does indeed have a storage limit.

I'm not sure why 30 seconds of research is not possible by anyone else
on the list this morning, but the answer seems abundantly clear once one
stops throwing out wild guesses and actually applies some kind of
methodology to troubleshooting.

> From: "Don Bruess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:41:17 -0700
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Strange Exchange
> 
> I am having a problem with exchange sending NDR 552 to people sending
> large files.  I have verified the system default has no limits on a 
> per messages or over all on storage.  I have also verified my personal

> box has no limits that could override the defaults. I do not know when

> this started happening but I do know I use to be able to receive any
> size files.  Is there another settings somewhere I have missed? It 
> appears to be limiting e-mail to around 2 meg max and is applying the 
> same rule to the entire exchange server.
> 
> Thanks,
> dl


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RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

[Bob Sadler]

Paul:

Your problem with speed may be that you are doing BLB (Brick Level
Backup) and not just a DB backup of the Exchange DB.

If you want to speed things up by a hundred fold (guesstimation), stop
doing BLB, implement the "Recover Deleted Items" features; find the
necessary information in the FAQ.



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-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000


We have a 40GB store on a XIOTECH SAN useing BE 9.0 with the Exchange
Agent and backing up with a ADIC Scalar 100 LTO.  ADIC says a gig a
minute is normal

-Original Message-
From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

Wow, how are you doing the gig a minute?  I have a 160GB backup and it
takes almost 24 hours on Veritas 8.6.  It really slows down when it hits
the mailboxes though.  Do you have the drive mounted directly to the
exchange server?

Thanks,
Paul

-Original Message-
From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000


A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote
agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange
server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes
approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent.

Raj

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000


I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. 

-Original Message-
From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great.  Just make sure your IS is
not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information
Stores...does brick level also.

Nick Thakkar
Network Administrator
American Medical Response
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-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000

Hello All.

What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000?  Need to do
brick levels too.  I know...management wants the brick levelstried
talking them out of it.

Thanks


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RE: Strange Exchange

[Bob Sadler]

That is exactly what he's saying.  Do you have a SMTP Gateway setup to
stop spam, or a virus filter, or both?



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-Original Message-
From: Bruess, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Strange Exchange


Sorry, I am trying to troubleshoot a problem that I have very little
knowledge in so if I appear to be a bit slow please forgive me.  Your
statement saying exchange is not listening confuses me.  Are you saying
there is some other software running between my exchange server and the
rest of the world which is placing its limits on the mail?

 -Original Message-
From:   Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, August 11, 2003 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:Re: Strange Exchange

Again, as per the last message you posted and I responded to, this error
is not being generated by Exchange. It is being generated by whatever is
listening at your default gateway. Your mx record may be labeled
exchange.satake-usa.com, but whatever is listening isn't Exchange.

nslookup
Default Server:  m1w2ksit01.austin.messageone.com
Address:  10.0.0.246

> set q=mx
> satake-usa.com
Server:  m1w2ksit01.austin.messageone.com
Address:  10.0.0.246

Non-authoritative answer:
satake-usa.com  preference = 10, mail exchanger =
exchange.satake-usa.com

Authoritative answers can be found from:
satake-usa.com  nameserver = ns2.satake-usa.com
satake-usa.com  nameserver = ns1.satake-usa.com exchange.satake-usa.com
internet address = 66.139.24.50

telnet exchange.satake-usa.com 25
Trying 66.139.24.50...
Connected to exchange.satake-usa.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 SMTP service ready
ehlo foo.bar
250-Requested mail action okay, completed
250-HELP
250 SIZE 3072000

Whatever is listening does indeed have a storage limit.

I'm not sure why 30 seconds of research is not possible by anyone else
on the list this morning, but the answer seems abundantly clear once one
stops throwing out wild guesses and actually applies some kind of
methodology to troubleshooting.

> From: "Don Bruess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:41:17 -0700
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Strange Exchange
> 
> I am having a problem with exchange sending NDR 552 to people sending 
> large files.  I have verified the system default has no limits on a 
> per messages or over all on storage.  I have also verified my personal

> box has no limits that could override the defaults. I do not know when

> this started happening but I do know I use to be able to receive any 
> size files.  Is there another settings somewhere I have missed? It 
> appears to be limiting e-mail to around 2 meg max and is applying the 
> same rule to the entire exchange server.
> 
> Thanks,
> dl


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RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up

[Bob Jiantonio]

Also,  running smtpreinstall.exe as appropriate for your service pack ,
fixes this issue. (sometimes) YMMV.

There isn't very good info on this utility.  This is the article I
followed:  http://support.microsoft.com/?id=319885

I only did this part though:

For Exchange 2000 SP2 or later you can use the SMTP Reinstall Tool
(Smtpreinstall.exe) to restore the missing Exchange 2000 ESMTP verbs and
the Exchange 2000 versions of the files. Smtpreinstall.exe can be found
in the \Support\UTILS\I386 folder on the Exchange 2000 SP2 or later CD.
Run Smtpreinstall.exe in the previous Step 2: Reinstall Exchange 2000
Server. To run Smtpreinstall.exe: 
1. Copy Smtpreinstall.exe to the \Exchsrvr\Bin folder. 
2. Run Smtpreinstall.exe from that folder. 
3. Restart the computer when you receive the prompt.


-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up


Well, uninstalled symantec avf for exchange, followed Tony's steps as
well, now we got airbiscuits. No inbound or outbound. I am having the
guy reinstall e2k sp3 again and see what happens.. 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up

However, this can be caused by other things, such as a virus scanner.
Sybari Antigen, in particular, does this with certain old versions. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
"One man's Spam is another man's UCE."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up

>From an earlier post today that was resolved via a PSS call

 Hope this helps someone in the future.

Symptom:  Message queue properties displays 'The handle is invalid' and
messages are stuck in the local and outbound queue.
Resolution:
Remove IIS, ensure metabase.bin is removed.
Reboot
Re-install IIS
Re-apply Windows SP
Reboot
Re-install Exchange
Re-apply SP
Reboot

Cause:  Suspected to be caused by a corrupt metabase.bin file but Ms is
not sure.  There will be a KB article published in the near future that
covers this problem.




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 9:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have googled my butt off, and I have cranked up logging. I cannot get
this one. All the smtp queues go into retry almost immediatelly. Help?

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RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems

[Bob Sadler]

Try connecting your clients to the IP Address and see if they hold their
connectivity.



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-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems


Nope, just the server name, returns correctly...

Kind regards, 
Kim Schotanus
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-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 14:55
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems


Are you pinging with ip numbers?  Have you tried pinging with fully
qualified names to see if your DNS is returning the correct results?

Or run NSLOOKUP and see what your DNS shows.

Are your clients configured to connect through the DNS Name or the IP
Address?  IF DNS Name, reconfig one to point to the IP Address and see
if that stays online.  If it does, most likely you are having some sort
of DNS issue.



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-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems


Situation: 5 win2K servers, 2 Domain controllers, Exch2K, SQL2K and
Sharepoint on 1 machine, 
Cisco switches (2950), ...

I rebooted all servers, unplugged switches, complete AV checkup

What can I do more? I can ping all servers from my workstation without
problems/delays

Kim


-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 14:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible


DNS?

MBLAST Virus?

DOS attack?

I'm sure we could just guess all day about this, but perhaps you can
enlighten us a bit more about how things are setup, what you have done
to diagnose the issue, when did this start, did you make changes to
something and then have this start?

If you provide clear information, perhaps the experts can help.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194



-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible


Does anyone have a clue how it is possible that our network is having
severe ups and downs in connectivity. Connections to the AD and exchange
are very unstable, we have the latest AV updates (trend), switches are
ok, etc... Any clues?

Kim

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RE: Strange Exchange

[Bob Sadler]

Could it be that the someone is sending a file that would take up all
the rest of the disk space you have reserved for Exchange?



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-Original Message-
From: Don Bruess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Strange Exchange


I am having a problem with exchange sending NDR 552 to people sending
large files.  I have verified the system default has no limits on a per
messages or over all on storage.  I have also verified my personal box
has no limits that could override the defaults. I do not know when this
started happening but I do know I use to be able to receive any size
files.  Is there another settings somewhere I have missed? It appears to
be limiting e-mail to around 2 meg max and is applying the same rule to
the entire exchange server.

Thanks,
dl

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RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems

[Bob Sadler]

Are you pinging with ip numbers?  Have you tried pinging with fully
qualified names to see if your DNS is returning the correct results?

Or run NSLOOKUP and see what your DNS shows.

Are your clients configured to connect through the DNS Name or the IP
Address?  IF DNS Name, reconfig one to point to the IP Address and see
if that stays online.  If it does, most likely you are having some sort
of DNS issue.



Bob Sadler
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WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194

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-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible BECOMES problems


Situation: 5 win2K servers, 2 Domain controllers, Exch2K, SQL2K and
Sharepoint on 1 machine, 
Cisco switches (2950), ...

I rebooted all servers, unplugged switches, complete AV checkup

What can I do more? I can ping all servers from my workstation without
problems/delays

Kim


-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 14:44
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible


DNS?

MBLAST Virus?

DOS attack?

I'm sure we could just guess all day about this, but perhaps you can
enlighten us a bit more about how things are setup, what you have done
to diagnose the issue, when did this start, did you make changes to
something and then have this start?

If you provide clear information, perhaps the experts can help.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194



-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: pipe dream or possible


Does anyone have a clue how it is possible that our network is having
severe ups and downs in connectivity. Connections to the AD and exchange
are very unstable, we have the latest AV updates (trend), switches are
ok, etc... Any clues?

Kim

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RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up

[Bob Jiantonio]

I would FIRST just try SMTPreinstall, without reinstalling Exchange
itself.

Use the appropriate smtpreinstall.exe file from your Exchange Service
pack CD, see if that fixes it.

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up


Do we need to reinstall e2k now then e2k sp3?

Kinda sketchy.. 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Jiantonio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up

Also,  running smtpreinstall.exe as appropriate for your service pack ,
fixes this issue. (sometimes) YMMV.

There isn't very good info on this utility.  This is the article I
followed:  http://support.microsoft.com/?id=319885

I only did this part though:

For Exchange 2000 SP2 or later you can use the SMTP Reinstall Tool
(Smtpreinstall.exe) to restore the missing Exchange 2000 ESMTP verbs and
the Exchange 2000 versions of the files. Smtpreinstall.exe can be found
in the \Support\UTILS\I386 folder on the Exchange 2000 SP2 or later CD.
Run Smtpreinstall.exe in the previous Step 2: Reinstall Exchange 2000
Server. To run Smtpreinstall.exe: 
1. Copy Smtpreinstall.exe to the \Exchsrvr\Bin folder. 
2. Run Smtpreinstall.exe from that folder. 
3. Restart the computer when you receive the prompt.


-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up


Well, uninstalled symantec avf for exchange, followed Tony's steps as
well, now we got airbiscuits. No inbound or outbound. I am having the
guy reinstall e2k sp3 again and see what happens.. 

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up

However, this can be caused by other things, such as a virus scanner.
Sybari Antigen, in particular, does this with certain old versions. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
"One man's Spam is another man's UCE."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP queues WAY backed up

>From an earlier post today that was resolved via a PSS call

 Hope this helps someone in the future.

Symptom:  Message queue properties displays 'The handle is invalid' and
messages are stuck in the local and outbound queue.
Resolution:
Remove IIS, ensure metabase.bin is removed.
Reboot
Re-install IIS
Re-apply Windows SP
Reboot
Re-install Exchange
Re-apply SP
Reboot

Cause:  Suspected to be caused by a corrupt metabase.bin file but Ms is
not sure.  There will be a KB article published in the near future that
covers this problem.




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hutchins, Mike
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 9:56 PM
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I have googled my butt off, and I have cranked up logging. I cannot get
this one. All the smtp queues go into retry almost immediatelly. Help?

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RE: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003

[Bob Sadler]

What?  I thought it was the other way around?

OK, for those in the know, please clear this up.  You upgrade Exchange
first, then OS?  Or OS first, then Exchange?



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-Original Message-
From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Running Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003


I do not believe you can install Exchange 2000 on Windows 2003.  Windows
2003 runs IIS 6.0, which Exchange 2000 does not support.  On the other
hand Exchange 2003 can run on IIS 5.0.  So the proper upgrade path is
upgrade Exchange 2000 first and then upgrade the OS to Windows 2003.

Thanks,

Steve


> Are there any restrictions on running Exchange 2000 on a Windows 2003 
> platform?
> 
> 
> Ron Pennell
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RE: In-Place Upgrade Questions

[Bob Sadler]

I would think the practical idea would be to run these just before you
do the upgrade.  If you run them now (Which wouldn't hurt), what's to
say that some thing doesn't change between then and now which screws up
your upgrade?



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-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: In-Place Upgrade Questions


Hello All.

I will be upgrading my Exchange 5.5 to 2000 this weekend.  I studied the
Microsoft White Paper on doing an In-Place Upgrade of Exchange and
understand that during the preparation of the Exchange 5.5 Organization,
there are utilities/diagnostic tools that need to be run.  For instance,
the NTDSATRB to find mis-matches and MTACheck and the KCC.  Can these
tools be run before the actual upgrade or should I wait until the
weekend and do the whole thing at once?

Can utilities like NLTEST /switch, and the ADC w/Connection Agreements,
/ForestPrep and /DomainPrep be run during the week before the actual
upgrade?

What can I do during the week that won't hinder services yet give me a
"jump" on the actual upgrade this weekend.

What things were you able to run/fix before the actual upgrade?

Thanks

Samantha

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RE: STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

[Bob Sadler]

Oh my :)  Please, I want to help!



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-Original Message-
From: John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 1980 1:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL


FROM THE DESK OF THE CHAIRMAN: 
SPECIAL COMMITTEE FOR BUDGET AND PLANNING OF THE FEDERAL MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING(FMWH). 

DEAR PARTNER, 

STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL

WE ARE MEMBERS OF A SPECIAL COMMITTEE FOR BUDGET AND PLANNING OF THE
FEDERAL MINISTRY OF WORKS AND HOUSING(FMWH). THIS COMMITTEE IS
PRINCIPALLY CONCERNED WITH CONTRACT AWARDS AND APPROVAL. WITH OUR
POSITIONS, WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY SECURED FOR OURSELVES THE SUM OF THIRTY
ONE MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS (US$31.5M).
THIS AMOUNT WAS CAREFULLY MANIPULATED BY OVER-INVOICING OF AN OLD
CONTRACT. 

BASED ON INFORMATION GATHERED ABOUT YOU, WE BELIEVE YOU WOULD BE IN A
POSITION TO HELP US IN TRANSFERING THIS FUND (US$31.5M) INTO A SAFE
ACCOUNT. IT HAS BEEN AGREED THAT THE OWNER OF THE ACCOUNT WILL BE
COMPENSATED WITH 30% OF THE REMITTED FUNDS, WHILE WE KEEP 60% AS THE
INITIATORS AND 10% WILL BE SET ASIDE TO OFFSET EXPENSES AND PAY THE
NECESSARY TAXES.

WE INTEND TO USE PART OF OUR OWN SHARE TO IMPORT FROM YOUR COUNTRY
AGRICULTURALAND CONSTRUCTION MACHINERY. THIS IS BECAUSE THE PRESENT
GOVERNMENT OF MYCOUNTRY IS EMPHASISING ON PROVIDING FOOD AND HOUSING FOR
ALL ITS CITIZENSBEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION. HENCE,AGRICULTURAL AND
CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT ARE IN HIGH DEMAND OVER HERE. WE SHALL ALSO NEED
YOUR ASSISTANCE IN THIS REGARD ON A COMMISSION TO BE AGREED UPON WHEN WE
FINALLY MEET. 
ALL MODALITIES OF THIS TRANSACTION HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY WORKED OUT AND
ONCE STARTED WILL NOT TAKE MORE THAN SEVEN (7) WORKING DAYS, WITH YOUR
FULL SUPPORT.

THISTRANSACTION IS 100% RISK FREE. IF THIS PROPOSAL SATISFIES YOU,PLEASE
REACH US ONLY BY EMAIL FOR MORE INFORMATION. 

PLEASE, TREAT AS URGENT AND VERY IMPORTANT. 

YOURS FAITHFULLY, 

DR.JOHN MARK.



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RE: Reccomended Black Lists

[Bob Sadler]

I have been using the blacklists for about three months now.  While it's
easier for me to figure out the local ISP's that will be used by our
constituents and put them on white lists, I can see where Martin and
others are coming from.

For a while I was using the FIVETEN Blackhole list combined.  Then I
discovered they were blocking ALL of Yahoo.  I mean wow!  Seemed a bit
extreme to me.  I did stop using that list for obvious reasons.

It does seem a little risky to rely on other people's "judgment" for the
lists, although until there is an organization that will take over these
types of lists that is more reliable and has a set way to get on and off
a list, it's pretty much the only thing we have.



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-Original Message-
From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists


I disagree with most of it, however, blacklist has been more valuable
than not.  Here's what I use:

-SPAM blocked today-
 1423 - relays.osirusoft.com
  218 - dnsbl.njabl.org
   36 - relays.ordb.org
Total Inbound Mail
   2599



> I find that most of them are run by vigilantes. There is no 
> accountability for these lists. They can do as they please and most 
> often do. I'm not going to trust my business  email to someone like 
> that.
> 
> Since you have no control over what gets blocked, you could find 
> yourself missing valuable business email without knowing it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:35 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
> 
> Really?  Do you find them to be inaccurate?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:32 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Reccomended Black Lists
> 
> 
> None
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:33 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Reccomended Black Lists
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm planning to install spam blocking software soon and I was wonder 
> what mailhost black lists you all recommend.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Aaron
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RE: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k

[Bob Sadler]

Go into your OUTLOOK client and change the connection from the DNS name
to the IP Address and see if you can make a connection that way.



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-Original Message-
From: Lynne July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k


Your original message indicated that you restarted the servers.  Do you
have multiple Exchange servers, all with the same issue?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 7:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k





Nothing indicating that it is not ok.

I can't believe this is happening today.  This sucks












Global Catalog ok ?



- Original Message - 
From: "Todd Boynton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k


> There's nothing obvious in the event log.  I've also turning on a
dianostic
> logging to maximum.
>
> Yes I can rpcping the server.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Missy Koslosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k
>
>
> > Anything in the event logs?  Can you use rpcping to reach the server
from
> > the desktop?
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Todd Boynton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:40 AM
> > Subject: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k
> >
> >
> > Just started this morning.  When people try to connect to the 
> > exchange server (2000, sp3) they get the message saying Microsoft 
> > Exchange Server
> is
> > unavailable.  IMAP, HTTP, and POP3 work great.  None of the services

> > are complaining and I can't figure out what the problem is.  Just 
> > for the
heck
> > of it (I'm getting desperate) I restarted the servers.  Still have 
> > the
> same
> > problem.
> >
> > Please give me some advice.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Todd Boynton
> >
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RE: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k

[Bob Sadler]

Pinging doesn't necessarily mean you have no DNS issue :)

Can you telnet to port 25 of your exchange server from your machine?

Have you run a Traceroute from your machine to see where things might be
going amiss?

Has someone added a device on your network with the same IP address as
your Exchange Server?



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-Original Message-
From: Todd Boynton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 8:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k


Yes, the Exchange Server can be pinged.  I haven't been able to find any
problem with the DNS.


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From: "Shotton Jolyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k


> DNS would be my guess too.
>
> The other week we replaced a network card in an Exchange server.  
> During
the
> course of this it acquired a DHCP address.  This DHCP address was 
> retained in the DNS server records even after the new network card was

> given the server's original address.  NT4 clients could still connect 
> to the server but Win2K and above machines were picking up the DHCP 
> address and could
not
> locate it.
>
> If you haven't already see if the clients can ping the Exchange server

> by name - and if not what address they resolve for it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Todd Boynton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 18 July 2003 14:40
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k
>
>
> Just started this morning.  When people try to connect to the exchange

> server (2000, sp3) they get the message saying Microsoft Exchange 
> Server
is
> unavailable.  IMAP, HTTP, and POP3 work great.  None of the services 
> are complaining and I can't figure out what the problem is.  Just for 
> the heck of it (I'm getting desperate) I restarted the servers.  Still

> have the
same
> problem.
>
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RE: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k

[Bob Sadler]

Sounds like a DNS issue.



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-Original Message-
From: Todd Boynton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Help. Can't connect to Exchange2k


Just started this morning.  When people try to connect to the exchange
server (2000, sp3) they get the message saying Microsoft Exchange Server
is unavailable.  IMAP, HTTP, and POP3 work great.  None of the services
are complaining and I can't figure out what the problem is.  Just for
the heck of it (I'm getting desperate) I restarted the servers.  Still
have the same problem.

Please give me some advice.

Thanks

Todd Boynton


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RE: hard drive space - OT Story

[Bob Sadler]

Just wanted to pass on this little tale of mine:

A while back, my boss in his infinite wisdom, decided to install some
software for his APC Backup Units on the Exchange/Web server.

While I frown on him installing anything more on this machine, like I
said, he's the boss.  Today though, when I came into work, he asks me,
"What is that pbeserver.exe process, it's eating up CPU time."  I said,
I don't know, will look into it.

Well, it turns out that pbeserver.exe is the service that runs the APC
software, and apparently it was stuck in an infinite loop.  Not only
that, but it's data file had grown to 8.01GB.  Now, the only thing that
saved us on not having exchange crash was that my boss accidentally
installed this software on the Web share instead of where he usually
likes to install programs, the Exchange share.

So, the moral of this story is, for those of you that have complete
control over your boxes, don't install anything that isn't priority #1
necessary.  For those of you that have bosses like mine, well, try and
teach them the best you can :)



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-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: hard drive space


You can also run eseutil locally on a non-exchange server that has space
on any databases copied over from the prod server.

- Original Message - 
From: "Henderson Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Redirect the temp file

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 July 2003 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space


Great so what do you do if you have a 50GB data store on 60GB drives?


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Yes, regardless of your Exch version.

-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: hard drive space

Do you need the extra HD space to run an eseutil defrag on EX2000?


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Is that before or after it falls asleep at 9pm?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: hard drive space
>
>
> Then smokes a cigarette
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: hard drive space
>
> That's not entirely true.
>
> What you need is non-whitespace + 10%(+/- a bit), not current database

> + 10%.
>
> The defrag process creates a new database and copies the data from the

> old file into the new one, then replaces the old one with the new one.
>
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brady, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:38 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: hard drive space
> >
> >
> > You will need scratch space = current priv size + 10%.
> >
> >  -Original Message-
> > From: Matt
> > Sent: Wed Jul 09 06:33:11 2003
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: hard drive space
> >
> > exchange 5.5 sp4 nt 4.0 sp6 how much free space should remain on 
> > drive where edb's are. I know to do an offline defrag you need space
> equal to the
> > databases to perform this function. Currently databases are 6 gb and

> > 1 gb with only 1.5 gb free disk space remaining. Store pegs cpu at
> > 100% every 2
> > days. A reboot takes
> > care of cpu for the next 2 days. Databases are not growing at
> > increased
> > rate. disabled av sw. Big problem.
> > Biggest problem for trouble shooting for us is it takes 2
> > days for the store
> > service to consume cpu. Usually my next step would be to
> > replace databases
> > with new ones to see if they are the problem as per MS. Bu

RE: how to cut down on spam

[Bob Sadler]

CMH winners don't pay taxes :)



Bob Sadler
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-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 10:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


Death and Taxes = 100%

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


Nothing in life is ever 100%. I would be worried about any company that
claimed their product worked 100% of the time

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Orin Rehorst
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


edoxs blocks 0% legitimate messages because they verify all entries in
their filter are spam.

Regards,
Orin




-Original Message-
From: Freddie Soerensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: how to cut down on spam


Well, you can set up the spamfilter to quarantine the filtered messages
for later review and if there should be a legitimate message it can be
retrieved.

I don't think there are any spamfilters which blocks 100% spam and 0%
legitimate messages.

Freddie

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Juni 2003 16:46
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Has anyone heard or used the surf control product. It seems much more 
> expensive than logstat ISP or XWALL. Can anyone mention any 
> differences? We definitely don't want to block real customers from 
> sending us email--just the spam.
> --- Freddie Soerensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Maybe you want to take a look at this :
> > http://www.logsat.com/SpamFilter/default.asp
> > 
> >  
> > "It is easier to change the specification to fit the
> program than vice
> > versa. "
> >  
> > 
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tigue Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Dienstag, 24. Juni 2003 23:38
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > 
> > > Hi all...
> > > 
> > > We are running Exchange 5.5 and as most of you we
> > receive a
> > > lot of spam in the company. My company does not
> > want to buy
> > > any spam sofware as it cost a lot of money. Is
> > there anything
> > > built into exchange that will help reduce the
> > spam? Is there
> > > anything that could be done on the Outlook Client
> > that will
> > > reduce the spam?
> > > We are also running GroupShield.
> > > 
> > > TIA
> > > 
> > > __
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> > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
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RE: How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting as an Open Relay?

[Bob Sadler]

I checked, and didn't see that you are running as an open relay.

Perhaps the problem you are having is Reverse DNS?  I know that AOL
requires a Reverse DNS record if you want to talk to it.  I had to add
it into my records before they would talk to me :)



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-Original Message-
From: Romeo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: How do I make sure my exchange server is not acting as an Open
Relay?


When ever a recipient from my site trying to send an email to a
recipient @aol.com. He/she will receive a message saying "Delivery to
the following recipients has been delayed." Then a few days later he/she
will receive another message saying "The following recipient(s) could
not be reached:" I finally talked to technical support at AOL and they
are telling me that I have been put on the block domain list because AOL
automatically check any IP that sends email to their domain and my IP is
acting as  An open relay, or also known as third-party relay.  How do I
stop this? What is the fix? Any comments or suggestion is truly
appreciated. Thank you

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RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd

[Bob Sadler]

I didn't get to attend because of the Kansas Budget Crisis, but I can
still bet that the #1 thing overheard was:'

"Where's the Beer?"



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-Original Message-
From: Mark Rotman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd


Now #2 really made me laugh!!! 
That was so TRUE!

Nice job Andy

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd


#2: Where the hell is the Arena?

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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 9:34 AM
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#3 My bag ripped again.

Walt

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 
> Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:11 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion
> Conversation: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd
> Subject: Top 10 things overheard at TechEd
>
> 10 "Is an 8-node Active Exchange 2003 cluster supported under VMWare
on
> Windows XP ?" - one attendee joking
>
>
>
> **  Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with

> Exchange 2003 **
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RE: GFI MailEssentials

[Bob Jiantonio]

Look out for this if you UN install GFI Mail Essentials:
http://kbase.gfi.com/showarticle.asp?id=KBID001683

Bob
Sunbelt Software

-Original Message-
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


Interesting Bill,  I haven't experienced these problem during my eval.
I'm evaling using GFI MailEssentials 8 in a gateway type setting which
receives then relays mail to my e2k sp3 server.  My relay machine is a
.net server configured as a standalone.  I've found no messages in my
badmail folder and testing sending to distribution lists have proved
successful.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: GFI MailEssentials


I was researching an entirely different issue and found that some people
were having trouble with  MailEssentials. The following has been copied
from that research.

Mail Essentials Problem:

I am also having a problem with Mail Essentials. It's a little
different. All email sent to distribution lists from Outlook2000 goes to
badmail. Anything sent to a distribution list from Outlook Express or
any other exchange client works fine. It is very strange. I contacted
GFI, and they said this is a known issue. Have you tried to contact them
about this problem? Good Luck! 

I'd be thankful for some help. Using Exchange Server 2000 sp3 and gfi
mail essentials 8, I find that some (not all) incoming mail is not
distributed but ends up in the badmail folder. The corresponding *.bdr
files always read 'error is processing file in pickup directory', no
other error code or number is visible. The mails in question do have
valid 'from:' and 'to:' addresses. Since all I found on this topic is
with regard to using cdonts and therefore (presumeably) not applicable
in this case, this is beyond me. Since I am quite new to this whole
business, please bear with me if I forgot to include necessary
information and just let me know. I'll try to post everything that's
needed. Thanks for helping!


Bill Kuhl


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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

[Bob Sadler]

Yes, but then I have to upgrade to OS 2003 too :)  Talk about a full day
:)

You are right though, there are some very interesting things in that
list, and I probably will see what my upgrade cost will be sooner then
later :)



Bob Sadler
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-Original Message-
From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


- AVAPI 2.5.

 

It allows the AV vendors to actually delete messages containing viruses
or matching the spam filters, if enabled, rather than just modifying the
content/attachments.  It also allows for stamping of a spam confidence
level on messages so that users can choose how spammy they want their
mailboxes to be using client software (would likely come from the same
3rd party virus vendor).

 

- More transport queue exposure

  Allows for better troubleshooting.

 

- Vastly improved management of public folders through ESM

 

- Support for Windows 2003 AD features

 

- Better bytes over the wire performance for LAN connected users

 

- Vastly improved OWA including spellcheck, attachment filtering and
junk mail rules

 

- More management capabilities exposed through WMI (like being able to
generate mailbox size reports with a script)

 

- Ability to use public or private RBLs

 

- Lots and lots of stability improvements over Exchange 2000.  

 

 

I don't know that any of these are compelling for you, but those are
some of the interesting things for me.  Remember that this is very much
like Exchange 5.5 was to Exchange 5.0.  Nothing earth shattering, but
nobody still wants to be running on 5.0.

 

 



ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released

http://www.swinc.com/erm 



 

 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:25 AM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

 

Yes, that may be true.  But my E2K server is very stable itself, and the

"benefits" of upgrading don't seem much to someone who doesn't need the

ability to download your mailbox to your desktop.

 

 

 

Bob Sadler

City of Leawood, KS, USA

WAN/Internet Specialist

913-339-6700 x194

 

 

-Original Message-

From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:31 AM

To: Exchange Discussions

Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

 

 

"Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that

Exchange2000 sp3" 

 

>From a session at TechEd. 

 

All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003.

That's almost 80,000 mailboxes.

 

William

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler

Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM

To: Exchange Discussions

 

I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.

 

Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow

OWA to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for

everyone; or so they say.

 

I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year,

let everyone else work out the bugs :)

 

 

 

Bob Sadler

City of Leawood, KS, USA

WAN/Internet Specialist

913-339-6700 x194

 

 

-Original Message-

From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM

To: Exchange Discussions

Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

 

 

 

 

> 

> -Original Message-

> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52

> To: Exchange Discussions

> 

> Good morning,

> 

> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants to know

> why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003.

 

> I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5.

> 

> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004.

> Help!!!

 

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to

figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

 

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a

lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow

links?

 

Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it

makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and

upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this.

 

 

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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

[Bob Sadler]

Yes, that may be true.  But my E2K server is very stable itself, and the
"benefits" of upgrading don't seem much to someone who doesn't need the
ability to download your mailbox to your desktop.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003


"Exchange2003 RC1 has proven to be more stable at Microsoft that
Exchange2000 sp3" 

>From a session at TechEd. 

All but 1 server at Microsoft have been migrated to Exchange2003.
That's almost 80,000 mailboxes.

William


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Sadler
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.

Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow
OWA to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for
everyone; or so they say.

I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year,
let everyone else work out the bugs :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003




> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants to know 
> why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003.

> I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and Exchange 5.5.
> 
> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for 2004.  
> Help!!!

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to
figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a
lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow
links?

Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it
makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and
upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this.


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RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003

[Bob Sadler]

I agree, especially with the Road Warriors comment.

Unfortunately, we don't have any road warriors for the City, as we allow
OWA to be used, and the connection speed for that is just fine for
everyone; or so they say.

I will probably wait to upgrade to Exchange 2003 for at least a year,
let everyone else work out the bugs :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Why would I want to go to Exchange 2003/Outlook 2003




> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 June 2003 15:52
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> Surely you are laughing by now.  But my management team wants
> to know why I want to spend all of this money for Exchange 
> 2003/Outlook 2003.  I mean we are currently on Outlook 98 and 
> Exchange 5.5.
> 
> How do I justify the expense and get it in the budget for
> 2004.  Help!!!

What would these do that your current system doesn't do (easy enough to
figure out) that you will need / want to do in future (not so easy)?

How important is continued support from Microsoft to you? Do you have a
lot of road warriors or people on remote sites with relatively slow
links?

Are you running Windows 2000 or 2003 active directory? If so then it
makes good sense not to have to maintain 2 user directories and
upgrading to a newer version of exchange would enable this.

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RE: Backing up the M Drive

[Bob Sadler]

You are correct with your scenarios up to a point.  You will STILL need
the Exchange Agent for either product you wind up using.  The Exchange
Agent not only allows you to do BLB's (bad bad idea), but also makes the
backups "Exchange Aware" which means that when a backup is successful,
your exchange server will then delete the necessary log files.

The rest of your setup is of course up to you, and custom for every
different admin.



Hth,

Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive


Ahh right, so brick level backups albeit by Veritas or Arcserve is a bad
idea anyway? Shame we have spent so much on Arcserve already, I wont
recommend exchange agents and Veritas Backup then!

So item retention is the way to go then.  Let me think, this will allow
me to restore files for a duration I set when setting up this retention
(I assume?).  That will have deleted files covered, the next scenario
would be that the server crashes, I will only be wanting to do a full
restore in this case.


Okay, one last scenario, we have a leaver and we delete there mailbox
from the server, then someone says "oh can you get it back".  I guess
the best policy for this is to put leavers on a 5 day standby.

I think that pretty much covers all events, and could be a better and
cheaper alternative.  Also a reason for them to give me more hard disk
space in my servers ;)

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 June 2003 18:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive

The only way you can restore a single mailbox, as you described, is to
have Brick Level Backups turned on.  Before you say, "Great", please
consider this.

When you run BLB's you do so by opening EVERY SINGLE EMAIL BOX to back
them up.  Not only is this time consuming, but is a great resource hog
as well, and really quite un-necessary.

Instead of using BLB's to correct user-errors such as deleting their
whole inbox, you should implement Item Retention, and correct user
permissions on public folders.  Don't allow your users to delete ANY
Public Folder, this way, you won't ever have to recreate it when they do
this "accidentally".

To achieve Item Retention, go to www.microsoft.com and do a lookup in
the Knowledge Base for ITEM RETENTION.  There are more then enough Q
Articles there to explain how to set this up.



Hth,

Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive


I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options.
Though I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox
via this method, or public folder using this backup?

Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to
restore using the built in backup?  When I try to expand the "Microsoft
Exchange" tab it asks me which server do I want to query.  I give it
one, but the box never becomes un-greyed, the exchange server is local
to where I am trying to run Microsoft Backup.

The option for "Microsoft Exchange Server" is available and I can choose
the server I want, but like I said previously this does not seem to
allow for selective restore/backup on a per mailbox scale.

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 June 2003 17:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive

Ouch.  Don't.  Everything I've read says that this will be the seventh
sign that brings about Armageddon.

Use NTBackup on your Exchange 2000 Server to backup to a file, then
backup that file to tape using Arcserve.

Steven
---
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Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backing up the M Drive


I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would
be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange
Agent at all.


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RE: Backing up the M Drive

[Bob Sadler]

The only way you can restore a single mailbox, as you described, is to
have Brick Level Backups turned on.  Before you say, "Great", please
consider this.

When you run BLB's you do so by opening EVERY SINGLE EMAIL BOX to back
them up.  Not only is this time consuming, but is a great resource hog
as well, and really quite un-necessary.

Instead of using BLB's to correct user-errors such as deleting their
whole inbox, you should implement Item Retention, and correct user
permissions on public folders.  Don't allow your users to delete ANY
Public Folder, this way, you won't ever have to recreate it when they do
this "accidentally".

To achieve Item Retention, go to www.microsoft.com and do a lookup in
the Knowledge Base for ITEM RETENTION.  There are more then enough Q
Articles there to explain how to set this up.



Hth,

Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive


I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options.
Though I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox
via this method, or public folder using this backup?

Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to
restore using the built in backup?  When I try to expand the "Microsoft
Exchange" tab it asks me which server do I want to query.  I give it
one, but the box never becomes un-greyed, the exchange server is local
to where I am trying to run Microsoft Backup.

The option for "Microsoft Exchange Server" is available and I can choose
the server I want, but like I said previously this does not seem to
allow for selective restore/backup on a per mailbox scale.

-Original Message-
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 June 2003 17:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive

Ouch.  Don't.  Everything I've read says that this will be the seventh
sign that brings about Armageddon.

Use NTBackup on your Exchange 2000 Server to backup to a file, then
backup that file to tape using Arcserve.

Steven
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Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-Original Message-
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backing up the M Drive


I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would
be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange
Agent at all.


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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...

[Bob Sadler]

Are you talking of the Exchange Agent from NAV or the NAV Product for
virus protection?

If you are talking about the Exchange Agent, it could be that your
definitions file has been corrupted.  Try to do a liveupdate again.  If
that doesn't work, then attempt to retrieve the latest def. file
manually and place it in it's proper place.

If this doesn't work, it's time to call Symantec for more support than
can be brought on an Exchange List.



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
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913-339-6700 x194


-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5 is freaking out...


I am running Exchange 5.5 sp4 on a win2k server.  I am running NAV for
Exchange version 2.18 and no other antivirus software on the server.  It
has been running fine for months without problems.  Today it started
spewing the two following errors to the screen over and over and over:

NAVEVAPI error
NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.

A Microsoft Exchange store memory allocation has failed.

(C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 675)



NAVEVAPI error
NAVEVAPI.DLL Internal Error.

Error Code = 0xc0090094, Additional = (null)

(C:\NAVMSE\Source\NAVEVAPI\NAVEVAPI.CPP, 1131)


I was also getting a bunch of alerts from my Blackberry server (running
on a different machine) that I believe were just a side effect of the
NAV broo-ha-ha.  The virus defs are the latest from yesterday 6-1-2003
rev2.  I have seen these navevapi.dll errors sporadically (one ever
couple of days) but they did not seem to cause any problems.  Now the
errors are occurring about every second while the NAV service is
running.  I stopped NAV for now and have not seen any errors in the
event log for about 15 minutes now (including blackberry).

Has anyone seen this or does anyone have suggestions for getting NAV
running again??

Tom

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RE: Outlook 2002 cmd line switches

[Bob Sadler]

Tools - Options - Mail Setup - Send/Receive - Check the box that allows
what you want.



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-Original Message-
From: Weatherly, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook 2002 cmd line switches


Does any one know if there is a command line switch of third party tool
for outlook that I could use, to invoke outlook and cause it to perform
a full Send/Receive.

I know you can set outlook to perform a send/receive every time it opens
but that would cause negative effects.





Rob Weatherly



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RE: Exchange locks up

[Bob Sadler]

I think what Ed is saying is that the server lockups are caused by the
short amount of space you have available, and you may even be running
out of space and that is causing the lockups.

If you got the Enterprise edition you could bypass the limit of the
16GB.



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-Original Message-
From: Hooks, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 7:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange locks up


Why? How does that solve the problem I have today? I only have 150 users
and do not anticipate the store will grow over 16 gigs again.



-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange locks up


Buy Enterprise Edition.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hooks, Tim
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange locks up


Hello All,

Last Wednesday, one week ago, without any warning our information store
stopped - reached the 16 gig limit. What I did not know was that the 16
gigs is a total of both the .stm file and the .edb file. I do not know
if the public folders contributed to the 16 gigs or not as ours only
account for 100 MB.

My first gripe - you would think there might be a warning message or two
in the event log before it shuts down!?

Anyways I knew we were getting closer to the limit and I helped some
people get their mailboxes cleaned out in the 2 weeks previous. Here are
the steps we followed. Rebooted. IS still would not load. Ran eseutil
Brought it online - deleted the deleted items manually and changed the
deleted item retention time from 30 days to 6 days. Ran eseutil again -
recaptured 5 gigs.

Since that day I have the server freeze up several times a day - anyone
in Outlook notices - wait a few minutes and everything comes back. If I
am at the server I can't even get logged in until it frees up. I have
rebooted the server a couple times - no use. The event log reports very,
very little. I get a 2078 information error about dsaccess stopping,
however this message comes after the slowdown and things are working
again - more like a symptom of an underlying problem. I turned up
dsaccess logging - no useful info there.

Here is the setup:
Exchange 2000, sp3
Windows 2000, sp3
dual 1.6  processors
1.5 gigs RAM
Compaq proliant, Hardware raid 5 and raid 1 for logs
single domain, single site, one exchange server, 150 users running Trend
scanmail for exchange Installed Trend Interscan Messaging suite to block
spam about 2 weeks ago - however, everything was just fine until the IS
reached its limit.

Any comments, suggestions or ideas on how to solve this one are
appreciated.

Thanks.

Tim Hooks
Columbus, Ohio

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RE: Norton Antivirus for Exchange problems

[Bob Sadler]

This is a known issue for NAV3.0.  Go to www.symantec.com and read the
Knowledge Base there.



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-Original Message-
From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 1:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Norton Antivirus for Exchange problems



  Is your NAV mailbox hidden ?  ("NAV for Microsoft Excahnge - $Name"
it will be called).  That happened to me the last time I had to restart
the server.  I can't recall whether I had the exact same events, but
it's something to check out.  Maybe someone was being "helpful" and hid
the mailbox for you?

 Jim Helfer
 WTW Architects
 



Biesecker, Noel E. IT1(SW) wrote:
> Hello All.
> 
> I've been having problems with my NAV for Exchange for several months 
> now. I can't figure out the problem, partly because I guess I'm not 
> sure how it's supposed to work normally. I came in to work after 
> taking 2 weeks off and this is what it was doing. I don't know if one 
> of the other "administrators" changed something or not. My "NAV for 
> Microsoft Exchange" service won't stay running. When I start the 
> service, it starts and will run for a few minutes. During that time, I

> can use the Web Based Administration to look at settings and such, but

> after a couple minutes, the Web Interface starts saying "the page 
> cannot be displayed". Looking at the service, it shows the service 
> stopped. Then looking at the Event Viewer, here are the errors I get, 
> in the order I get them:
> 
> [Event ID 107] - Service started: Version 2.17 (Build 75)
> 
> [Event ID 169] - Email Notifications could not be initialized using 
> the MAPI profile "Norton AntiVirus for Microsoft Exchange". It failed 
> with 0x80070005. Notifications will not be sent.
> 
> [Event ID 79] - Service cannot start since the NT account specified is

> not an Exchange Administrator. Check the account used in 'Services' 
> Control Panel applet and verify that the account has Administrator 
> rights.
> 
> [Event ID 185] - The service will be shutdown due to an unexpected 
> failure initializing virus protection.
> 
> [Event ID 169] - Email Notifications could not be initialized using 
> the MAPI profile "Norton AntiVirus for Microsoft Exchange". It failed 
> with 0x80040111. Notifications will not be sent.
> 
> I actually get Event ID 169 several times. Now, I've tried several 
> things to fix this. I've ensured the Service starts up using the 
> ExAdmin account and made sure the password was correct and that didn't

> help.
> 
> I changed the password and that didn't help.
> 
> I tried using my account for starting the service and made sure I was 
> an Exchange Administrator and that didn't work.
> 
> I get the same errors every time. Has anyone ever seen this or know 
> what I may be missing? Thanks.
> 
> IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
> USS DEYO (DD-989) "Strike Destroyer"
> System Administrator/Network Analyst
> 
> "Serving with Pride"
> 
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RE: domain name

[Bob Sadler]

I get there without issue.



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-Original Message-
From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: domain name


We have employee who have offices in other division and they were have
problem trying to get on OWA. I ask them to try www.jetproducts.com
before accessing OWA and but they were not able to the website. When I
try tracert I get Unable to resolve target system name but when I use
the dail-up account it work fine. I need a couple of people to test this
website for me. Thank You 

Tony

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: domain name


well..let's see Ed...ok it's like seven ways to kevin Bacon.

See months ago Tony asked about installing OWA..IIS ect..I remember He
had quite the time with it and many questions. The I think he got
it...then I think there was something he asked about a problem about it
sometime a month later... So then now maybe he is trying to access it
from home on his laptop now he wants to somehow be able to use his
domain name www.domain.com to get to his OWA server with out the long
drawn out line. So now he's testing at home testing his connection
to his OWA server at his www.domain.com and appears to be having some
type of DNS issues regarding resolving to his domain

so we have hopefully establish the connectin to Exchange since OWA
relates to exchange and DNS issues can relate to both thus Tony's
question potentiall relates to exchange

How does it relate to Kevin Bacon?
I suspect some one at the ISP or Tony company knows somebody that knows
Kevin Bacon.thus resulting it the final potential connection to
Kevin Bacon...


bill

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: domain name


And that has to do with Exchange how?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Nguyen
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: domain name


Can some show me where I need to start looking 

We I connect my laptop to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I could not get to my web page with
www.domain.com but I could type in the IP address. When I use a dail-up
account I was able to use www.domain.com. Could this be a DNS problem? 

Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
System Administrator/DBA
Senior Aerospace Jet Products
www.jetproducts.com


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RE: Exchange and pop3

[Bob Sadler]

Did you check the event logs as Chris suggested?  They should tell you
everything you need to know concerning this issue.  My gut reaction is
that the users are NOT logging in with the account name, but instead are
using something like their Alias name.

Also, do you have cross-over account names?  Could you have two accounts
with the same name?  The event viewer is where you need to be.  Once
there, find where a user having trouble logging in is and read it!



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-Original Message-
From: Hector Cortez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange and pop3


All traffic seams fine.. I know, I know I take all the criticism in a
positive way.. I inherited this NOS and am in the process of moving over
to mapi.  I have just been getting a lot of grief form the coats on why
this is happening.  As we wall know.. All of corporate end users are not
the brightest peas in the pod but somehow they are always right.  Just
and idea of our layout we have over 3000 nodes on pop3 setups.. Any
ideas on the easiest/s fastest way for conversion..

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange and pop3


What errors are in the event viewer on the Exchange server when this
occurs? If you run a network sniffer, what does the POP3 conversation
look like? POP3 authentication isn't exactly a complex thing

telnet mailserver 110
user username
pass password

You said you are running Windows XP with the POP3 connector. Windows XP
is an operating system and a POP3 connector is not a mail client. Did
you mean to say that you are running some variant of Outlook with the
internet e-mail service? 

Exchange seems like an awfully expensive POP3 server.


On 3/25/03 9:56, "Hector Cortez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No they are not.. I have verified all information.. The only
> conclusion I have found on this was to delete the protective storage 
> in the registry in windows xp, I believe it's a client to server 
> authentication bug
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Exchange and pop3
> 
> 
> The users are entering their username or password incorrectly? The
> users are entering their username or password incorrectly? The users 
> are entering their username or password incorrectly?
> 
> Why are the users using POP3 to access their mail?
> 
> On 3/25/03 7:45, "Hector Cortez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> hello.. I have been dealing with this issue ever since we moved to
>> exchange 2000. We are running windows xp with the pop3 connector. 
>> several of my users accounts are getting locked out as if they are 
>> entering and incorrect password. The users account information
>> (password) is not being recognized my the exchange server. Need to 
>> reset password and recreate account on local machine.. Any ideas
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RE: Stupid disclaimers

[Bob Sadler]

Now now, remember, my City is filtering on only two words, F*** and
S***.  Why we don't filter on other, much more obscene words then that
is beyond me :)



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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Stupid disclaimers


Wow, if my content filters would have flagged this message for
administrative review, I would have been in violation of federal
criminal law... In the country of Bullshitia I guess.

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RE: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE

[Bob Sadler]

Any limitations on what people can send?  Size of file, etc?  Can he
send just a regular text message to the same address with no attachment?



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-Original Message-
From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE


  It just hangs in his outbox here.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 11:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE


Is he getting a specific NDR?



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-Original Message-
From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE


   We have a user who cannot send attachments to an address.  He can
send text but not attachments.  I can send to this same address with
attachments but he cannot from our server.  Any ideas on why I could
send to the same address but he cannot?

Thanks,
Alex

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RE: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE

[Bob Sadler]

Is he getting a specific NDR?



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-Original Message-
From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: WEIRD PROBLEM WITH EXCHANGE


   We have a user who cannot send attachments to an address.  He can
send text but not attachments.  I can send to this same address with
attachments but he cannot from our server.  Any ideas on why I could
send to the same address but he cannot?

Thanks,
Alex

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RE: user is working at home on ISDN, slow opening attachments

[Bob Sadler]

How big are those attachments?

Hell, even on the LAN at the office, if someone sends me something with
12MB attachment, it still takes a good 30 seconds to open it.



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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: user is working at home on ISDN, slow opening attachments


this is a direct dial in to the network.  

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RE: SPAM blockin software recommendations.....

[Bob Sadler]

Although I don't currently use the product I'm recommending, it is on my
"wishlist" for next years buget.

http://www.winresources.com

JunkJam

I really like the way these people have taken the idea of responsibility
to the users with this product.  Contact Craig Sanders there and ask for
a Demo.



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-Original Message-
From: Brian Dugas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SPAM blockin software recommendations.


Good Morning,

I am currently using Trend eManager to block SPAM(in trial version
still), it is not appearing to be very effective. What are some other
options for blocking SPAM?

Thanks in advance.

Brian


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Re: Outlook 2k unable to open you default folders

[Bob]

what fixed the problem beautifully ?



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Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:55 PM
Subject: RE: Outlook 2k unable to open you default folders


> That fixed the problem beautifully. Thanks alot!
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RE: Directory Export - SMTP address

[Schuessler, Bob (Efdsouth)]

Without knowing what the "end result" of the export is, would adding the
e-mail address (Internet) column to the view of the admin tool and then save
window contents get you what you need??

Bob
-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Directory Export - SMTP address


RE:  detail of your original Q:
I do not think you can...your going to get the whole 'E-mail Addresses'
field
you could then chop it up with you favorite admin tools to extract just the
SMTP:

Im with steve I mess it up good in excel

True I find mainly 'E-mail Addresses' which has everything I tend to screw
up myself.
 now there's a 'Secondary-Proxy-Addresses' field with small 'smtp'

But I do think if you want to modify someones stuff you have to use the smtp
under 'E-mail Addresses' which in capitalized SMTP:
I believe what ever follows the SMTP: in that field will update the entries
SMTP
Note the captial SMTP is key for their default smtp address...at least thats
what my memory is telling me right now...


bill

-Original Message-
From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Directory Export - SMTP address


It is for 55, but the only header I see is 'E-mail Addresses' and that gives
the full DN, is there a header to just grab the SMTP address?

 -Original Message-
From:   Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, February 06, 2003 1:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Directory Export - SMTP address

in 55 you needed HEADER.EXE

at least thats the way I did it, Im sure there are other ways

bill

-Original Message-
From: Hatley, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Directory Export - SMTP address


How do you export the SMTP address without the entire DN using admin.exe to
export to a .csv file?


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Exchange Role/Permissions Question

[Bob Chyka]

I have a person here who helps me with creating student accounts and 
change passwords etc.  they have access to 1 OU in our organization.  is 
there any way to allow them to create mailboxes in that OU when they 
create accounts and not be able to do anything else in Exchange?  it is 
exchange 2000 on windows 2000 advanced server. 

thanks for any input...

Bob C.




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RE: Open Relay and E2k

[Bob Sadler]

Out of the box, E2K is NOT setup for open relay.  Unless you have
changed the default settings, you should be fine.



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-Original Message-
From: Joshua R. Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Open Relay and E2k


I have a set up an Exchange 2000 server 
Windows 2000 SP3Exchange 2000 SP3 
And I want to ensure that we are not an open relay,I know how to do
this in Exchange 5.5   can someone point me to a doc that explains how
to do this in E2k?   


TIA,
Joshua




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OWA 5.5 soem users unable to login

[Bob]

Hi

We run OWA 5.5 on a windows 2000 server and exchange 5.5 on a seperate
windows 2000 server. Some users get the "unable to access your inbox" error
message and the only way I can get it working is to change their mailbox
alias

Anyone know how to fix this properly rather than renaming the alias ?

Bob



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RE: error 4026

[Bob Sadler]

I think a search at www.microsoft.com for 4026 might shed some light on
this Richard.



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-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: error 4026



Hello,
I just received an error on my server event Id 4026, has
anyone ever heard about this error.  I think the error has to do with a
corrupted queue file. After I restarted the server the event file said
that exchange found a corrupted queue and it will attempt to rebuild it.
Everything is working now before all my messages were stuck in the IMS
Queue.

Rich

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Re: Exchange 5.5 sp3, OWA IIS5 and windows 2000

[Bob Petra]

I already searched at many places. Microsoft comes with one article which
seemed to be the solution. That is: deleting an object from the
transaction server. Windows 2000 places these objects in the component
services, aldo the right object to delete wasn't there.

Regards,


Bob

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RE: the spam product question

[Bob Sadler]

Personally I just forward all my spam mail to Chris and he takes care of
them for me, I think everyone should do that :)



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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: the spam product question


The what anti-spam solution should I use FAQ answer I've submitted
weekly for the last 3 years is "A1. The one Chris Scharff recommends for
you after a profitable (for him) consulting engagement, where he selects
the best product to meet the needs you relate to him surrounding such a
solution." I think it should be added soon.

On 1/16/03 12:11, "Hansen, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





I know I know I know, this questions has been asked a million times.  My

question has a small but important twist. 


We don't content filter our email here.  Now they want to, even though
we 
are less then 6 months away from a Exchange 2000 and/or Exchange .Net 
migration, but they want to do it anyway.  I'm looking for the best spam

filter that will run on 5.5 but then will also run on 2000.  I dug
through 
the archives a bit but didn't see this addressed. 


On a side note... 

They should really add the "what anti-spam product should I use?"
question 
to the faq. 


Chow bellas 
e- 

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Re: Exchange 5.5 sp3, OWA IIS5 and windows 2000

[Bob Petra]

To ad this extra IE message to my OWA problem


Technical Information (for support personnel)

Error Type:
Microsoft VBScript runtime (0x800A01A8)
Object required: 'Application(...)'
/exchange/DUT/logon.asp, line 12


Browser Type:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) 

Page:
GET /exchange/DUT/logon.asp 

Time:
Thursday, January 16, 2003, 3:58:36 PM 


More information:
Microsoft Support 



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Exchange 5.5 sp3, OWA IIS5 and windows 2000

[Bob Petra]

Hello,

I'm experiencing problems with OWA. First some techincal specs.

- IIS 5
- Exchange 5.5 SP3
- Exchange runs on different NT4 server
- IIS5 and OWA runs on Windows 2000 server
- OWA SP3 language packs installed (DUT and USA)

When starting OWA from browser (IE5.5 and IE6) i get the message below.
I have experienced wirh the NTFS rights but this is not the problem (you
should get another message then).


**
The page cannot be displayed 
There is a problem with the page you are trying to reach and it cannot be
displayed.

Please try the following:

Open the 10.1.1.40 home page, and then look for links to the information
you want.
Click the  Refresh button, or try again later.

Click  Search to look for information on the Internet. 
You can also see a list of related sites. 




HTTP 500 - Internal server error 
Internet Explorer  
**

Someone has an idea/



regards,


Bob Petra

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Re: MX Record For OWA ?

[Bob]

Well he might want an MX record if the mail is to come into his network from
an external domain ?

I wonder how this is currently handled? is there an MX record ?

you shouldn't need to change it to the OWA box

you will need a dns entry for the OWA box though so users can hit it as
http://webmail.domainname.com or whatever

Bob


- Original Message -
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:10 PM
Subject: RE: MX Record For OWA ?


> The only port you need is 80 (for HTTP) or 443 (for SSL).
> You don't want or need an MX record.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:00 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: MX Record For OWA ?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> If I am placing an OWA server in my DMZ and have port 25 open on it for
> internal email and external email to be sent do I need to place an MX
record
> in my external DNS?
>
> Thanks,
> Erik
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RE: deleting one email

[Bob Sadler]

Richard was paying attention and answered the question, let's not get
too uppity now :)



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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: deleting one email


Huh?

On 1/14/03 9:55, "Tener, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I dont know 

-Original Message- 
From: Michael Ahlfont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:43 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: deleting one email 
Sensitivity: Private 


Hello everyone 

Is there anyway of deleting an email that was sent out to everyone
without 
manualy deleting it from each users mailbox? 

Thanks  



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RE: Mailbox access permissions

[Bob Sadler]

Well, I do the same thing from my desktop, I login as whoever I want and
do what I need to, then release them back to work.

Why not do that, or if you are running WINXP on both sides, set it up
that you can "take control" of their machine.

But, in response to your question, I don't believe you can set outlook
permissions through the ESM.



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-Original Message-
From: John Orban [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox access permissions


Situation is we have a new secretary who needs to be able to get access
to the inbox of the boss to send and receive emails on his behalf. Same
thing with calendar and tasks. I know I can get the boss to add her as a
new delegate, but most likely I'm going to have to go down there and do
all three machines myself (his and his two assistants).

I was just wondering if I could do it from, for example, Exchange
Administrator. Just give "User" permission to the new user (from each
mailbox) and then have the new secretary open the mailbox when her copy
of Outlook opens. I've tried that and it doesn't seem to work, unless
I'm not doing it correctly.

If there isn't there should be a tool that does that, seems to me.

John Orban
System Administrator
The Country School
www.countryschool.org


-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox access permissions


If you are the admin, go in as the user, set the permissions as you
want, then logoff as that user.



Bob Sadler
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Internet/WAN Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
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-Original Message-
From: John Orban [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox access permissions


Exchange 5.5 - SP4
Clients: Outlook 2002 running on W2K-SP3

Is there some way to allow access to another person's mailbox without
having the user, him/self, delegate permissions?

John Orban
System Administrator
The Country School
www.countryschool.org


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RE: Mailbox access permissions

[Bob Sadler]

If you are the admin, go in as the user, set the permissions as you
want, then logoff as that user.



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-Original Message-
From: John Orban [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox access permissions


Exchange 5.5 - SP4
Clients: Outlook 2002 running on W2K-SP3

Is there some way to allow access to another person's mailbox without
having the user, him/self, delegate permissions?

John Orban
System Administrator
The Country School
www.countryschool.org


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RE: NDR when meeting accepted or declined

[Bob Sadler]

Does this happen on ALL meeting requests, or the ones being replied to
that were generated before you 5.5 upgrade?  I had this type of issue
myself, where people would try and reply to a message or meeting request
that was generated before the conversion and would get NDR's.



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-Original Message-
From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NDR when meeting accepted or declined


Exchange 2000 (recently upgraded from 5.5) with Outlook 2000 clients

Originally, the HR spec would send out a meeting request.  Acceptance or
decline replies would always generate a copy to HR sec.

Now, when that happens, the user would get an NDR saying that the HR sec
name/address is not valid.

Per our consultants request, I've removed all permissions from the HR
spec mailbox.  I waited about 4 hours after doing this and then tried
the meeting request.  Once again, an NDR was generated.

I'm at a loss as to where to go now.  Does anybody have any suggestions?

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr



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RE: Content Filter/Scan Products

[Bob Sadler]

We use Symantec's Antivirus/Content product here.

For a more in depth discussion of this subject though, I suggest you
search the archives; link at the bottom of all emails.



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-Original Message-
From: Wilson, Fenton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Content Filter/Scan Products


Could someone who has used the product please recommend a package for
content filtering software that would run on Exchange 5.5? If they would
also run on Exchange 2000, that would be great, but not absolutely
necessary.
 
Requirements:
 
1) Run on Exchange 5.5 and possibly 2000
 
2) Be able to scan for keywords and stop the outgoing email or forward
it to an individual for approval before sending.
 
3) Scan for certain addressees
 
4) Needs to be able to scan out-going attachments for keywords, etc.
 
TIA,
Fenton Wilson

  www.kathmandukids.org  - saving one child at a time ***

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RE: cleaning a mailbox

[Schuessler, Bob (Efdsouth)]

I've used this method several times, even for a "quick disaster recovery".
As long as the directory is OK, it will work fine.  

-Original Message-
From: Petschow, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: cleaning a mailbox


I don't have a lab. How about if I just copy the current priv to another
location and if things don't work I just copy it back. I'm scheduled to do
this in 20 minutes so I'll see what happens.

Jeff


> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:07 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: cleaning a mailbox
> 
> 
> Nope. They are all in the dir.
> 
> I have never done this before, but I don't see what it 
> wouldn't work. You
> may want to test it in the lab first.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Petschow, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:56 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: cleaning a mailbox
> 
> 
> That sounds like a good idea. Do I need to do anything after 
> it creates the
> new priv.edb to sync up the accounts.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: cleaning a mailbox
> > 
> > 
> > You could literally delete the priv.edb file.
> > That will delete all the data, and when you restart Exch, it
> > will create a
> > new empty one.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Petschow, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:34 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: cleaning a mailbox
> > 
> > 
> > I have an exchange 5.5 server that is only used by students 
> that take 
> > training classes in Outlook. After each semester I want to delete 
> > everything in the mailboxes. I have been using mailbox manager but I
> > have not found out
> > how to remove future appointments from the calendar. Also 
> > meeting requests
> > sometimes do not get deleted. Is there some way to completely remove
> > everything. There are 300 mailboxes on this server.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff Petschow
> > College of DuPage
> > 
> > 
> > 
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RE: eoo.log files

[Bob Sadler]

Not true!  I never say anything obscene :)

TOM SAVE ME


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-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler 
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: eoo.log files


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RE: Disclaimers

[Bob Sadler]

Excuse me, I'm not sure this is the right place for this question
really.  We are exchange admins here, not attorney's :)

Although, if you'd like, I'll go ask the City Attorney for her opinion
and email you offline :)



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-Original Message-
From: Mark Dewell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disclaimers


A recurring topic seems to be about adding disclaimers to outgoing
messages and I have seem various recommendations about software to do
this. 

But I would like to know how effective are disclaimers? 
Do they actually have any legal standing?



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RE: eoo.log files

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Re: Veritas Backup Exec Engine

[Bob]

Neither have I 

Are you using a MAPI client to notify you when backups are complete?



- Original Message - 
From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: Veritas Backup Exec Engine


> Mine must be misconfigured. I havent ever seen that.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Hansen, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 3:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Veritas Backup Exec Engine
> 
> 
> > Speaking from past experience, yes.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Johnny Martinez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 10:42 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Veritas Backup Exec Engine
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Is it normal for the bengine.exe to be taking 50% CPU usage when no
> backups
> > are running?
> >
> > Johnny
> >
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RE: RBL's

[Bob Sadler]

I got some sticks here, and I want you all to come get one so we can all
keep beating this dead horse!

Come on ya'll, let's drop it and move along.  Us regular folk are quite
tired of hearing one way and another about this.  A good rule of thumb
would be, if you don't like what's on the list, remove yourself from it,
or, if you don't like someone in particular on the list, put them in
your kill-file.



Have a pleasant day!

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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 5:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


Perhaps you should read your e-mails before you send them. Just cause
you wrote something down and it sounds one way in your head doesn't
meant that it will sound the same way on the other end.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


I guess the #include humor.h module wasn't loaded for you this morning.
I'd suggest that the spelling remark was only rude to a subset of the
32% of admins who actually could spell RBL and thus understood the barb.
As a journalism major, with an English minor I am quite concerned about
any grammatical errors I might have made in the comment you are
referring to. Would you please be so kind as to point out my grammar
errors so that I might endeavor to eliminate them from my future
postings?

Now, as to your point that my statement that of the 32% of mail
administrators who can spell RBL many are unable to comprehend the
implications of it: I've made more than 8,000 replies in various public
forums in the last 12 months. I've read over 50,000 threads during that
same period. It's been a relatively slow year for me, but even if we
take those low water numbers back 4 years it's still a fairly
substantial number of administrators and posts that I've encountered.
Based on that vast experience with and exposure to mail administrators
around the world, I find it highly likely that 16% or more of mail
administrators don't understand fully the implications of the RBL
technology they are using and or advocating.

It has nothing to do with being smart or dumb. It has to do with being
knowledgeable about a particular issue or technology. My comments were
not directed at any particular individual user on this list and were
more accurately a diatribe against the technology than those who choose
to implement it. I'm sorry you chose to misinterpret my comments.

> -Original Message-
> From: Walsh, Ric [mailto:Walshr@;national-citymortgage.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Ok your "spelling" remark was rude to all of us.
> 
> You following remark despite it's poor grammar seems to say that the
> rest of us are dumber that you. I'd have to say that it was ALL rude.
> 
> Ric Walsh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Walsh, Ric
> > Sent:   Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:32 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject:RE: RBL's
> >
> > Ok what makes you such a wizard? Also add the word rude to that.
> > Have
> you
> > though of taking an anger management class?
> >
> > Ric Walsh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:22 PM
> > > To:   Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject:  RE: RBL's
> > >
> > > I'd guess 68% or more of mail admins are unable to even spell RBL.

> > > The majority of the remainder is unable to comprehend the
> > > implications of
> > the
> > > functionality on their environment, whether they understand how it

> > > actually works or not.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william@;techsanctuary.org]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:16 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's a little harsh. (I love it when you're harsh...)
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean they are not aware of it, or they are unable to
> > > > comprehend its functionality?
> > > >
> > > > William
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: mssdmn.exe using high cpu

[Bob Sadler]

Wilson:

I have suffered from this very issue, and that was well before I had ANY
public folders (no offense Ed).  Although I do have full-text indexing
turned on, and someone, I think the RUDE GUY told me I should try
turning OFF the Full Indexing, re-booting the server, when it's backup,
go ahead and turn on Full-text Indexing and reboot again.

I can't remember why the RUDE GUY said this, as I was two beers and a
few percocets on my way to a good time, but the RUDE GUY did mention
that he'd seen or heard of this before, and he'd heard this fix working.

Of course, I haven't tried this yet, as I have yet to have a free
Saturday since returning from MEC, although I will try, otherwise the
RUDE GUY just might come up to KC and kick my arse :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
Internet/WAN Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
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-Original Message-
From: Varghese, Wilson [mailto:Wilson.Varghese@;KMV.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 4:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: mssdmn.exe using high cpu


So you think this is caused by public folder indexing and not mailboxs?

Wilson



 -Original Message-
From:   Ed Crowley [mailto:curspice@;pacbell.net] 
Sent:   Sunday, November 03, 2002 7:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: mssdmn.exe using high cpu

Have you configured indexing?  If you're using that, you should have
your public folders on a dedicated server if you're seeing high CPU
load.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-94760@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Varghese,
Wilson
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 4:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: mssdmn.exe using high cpu



Exchange 2k, sp2, 2gigs ram, 1cpu. (in a native mode child domain)

Mssdmn.exe is using high CPU, and when I terminal serviced into the
server to see why mail was running so slow, I saw two instances of
mssdmn.exe.  This has happened before and it goes away after an hour but
during that hour, client access to mail and searches are extremely slow.


I checked Google and support.Microsoft.com but only hits were for SQL
Server indexing issue.  Anyone know of any issues with indexing on an
exchange 2k server?

Any hints would be helpful before I end up calling PSS.  

Thanks in advance.

Wilson





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RE: RBL's

[Bob Sadler]

OH!  So we are talking about what's stuck in Chris' beard!  Now I
understand :)



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-Original Message-
From: Ely, Don [mailto:dely@;TripathImaging.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


Reddish Brown Lint???

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:bobs@;LEAWOOD.ORG] 
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


What is RBL? :P



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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


Oh wait. Never mind Mr. Hummert. I finally understand what is going on. 

You took my general statements regarding the number of mail
administrators who couldn't spell RBL or who didn't fully understand its
implications as some kind of a personal attack. I can assure you that I
had neither you, nor anyone else on the list in mind particularly when I
created those statistics.

There are plenty of things on this list which the vast majority of
members don't completely understand. Heck, I've got an ever growing list
of things I don't understand completely. Not understanding something
isn't a sin; jumping willy nilly onto the latest and greatest technology
without understanding the pros and cons of it might be. My posts were
simply meant to provide a warning to those who might be interested that
all that glitters is not gold.

Sorry Christopher, this song isn't about you.

> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I asked for clarification from Mr. Walsh that I might learn to curb my

> apparently misplaced anger. How, Mr. Hummert was that rude?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net]
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:52 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Hu you being rude to someone elseimagine that?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris 
> > Scharff
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:24 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> >
> >
> > >Ok what makes you such a wizard?
> >
> > The cool pointy hat and eye of newt in my toolkit.
> >
> >
> > Who exacty was I rude to? The two people in the thread who I 
> > directly replied to?[1] Or did I offend those mail administrators to

> > whom my coments applied for revealing that in this instance they 
> > wore no clothes?
> >
> >
> > [1] Close personal friends who wouldn't take offense at my comments 
> > even if they had been directed at them.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Walsh, Ric
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Sent: 10/31/2002 9:31 AM
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> >
> > Ok what makes you such a wizard? Also add the word rude to that. 
> > Have you though of taking an anger management class?
> >
> > Ric Walsh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:22 PM
> > > To:   Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject:  RE: RBL's
> > >
> > > I'd guess 68% or more of mail admins are unable to even spell RBL.

> > > The
> >
> > > majority of the remainder is unable to comprehend the implications

> > > of
> > the
> > > functionality on their environment, whether they understand how it

> > > actually works or not.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william@;techsanctuary.org]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:16 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's a little harsh. (I love it when you're harsh...)
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean they are not aware of it, or they are unable to 
> > > > comprehend its functionality?
> > > >
> > > > William
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116@

RE: RBL's

[Bob Sadler]

What is RBL? :P



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
Internet/WAN Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: RBL's


Oh wait. Never mind Mr. Hummert. I finally understand what is going on. 

You took my general statements regarding the number of mail
administrators who couldn't spell RBL or who didn't fully understand its
implications as some kind of a personal attack. I can assure you that I
had neither you, nor anyone else on the list in mind particularly when I
created those statistics.

There are plenty of things on this list which the vast majority of
members don't completely understand. Heck, I've got an ever growing list
of things I don't understand completely. Not understanding something
isn't a sin; jumping willy nilly onto the latest and greatest technology
without understanding the pros and cons of it might be. My posts were
simply meant to provide a warning to those who might be interested that
all that glitters is not gold.

Sorry Christopher, this song isn't about you.

> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 1:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I asked for clarification from Mr. Walsh that I might learn to curb my

> apparently misplaced anger. How, Mr. Hummert was that rude?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:hummertc@;noghri.net]
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:52 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> > Hu you being rude to someone elseimagine that?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:bounce-exchange-97309@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris 
> > Scharff
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:24 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> >
> >
> > >Ok what makes you such a wizard?
> >
> > The cool pointy hat and eye of newt in my toolkit.
> >
> >
> > Who exacty was I rude to? The two people in the thread who I 
> > directly replied to?[1] Or did I offend those mail administrators to

> > whom my coments applied for revealing that in this instance they 
> > wore no clothes?
> >
> >
> > [1] Close personal friends who wouldn't take offense at my comments 
> > even if they had been directed at them.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Walsh, Ric
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Sent: 10/31/2002 9:31 AM
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> >
> > Ok what makes you such a wizard? Also add the word rude to that. 
> > Have you though of taking an anger management class?
> >
> > Ric Walsh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:22 PM
> > > To:   Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject:  RE: RBL's
> > >
> > > I'd guess 68% or more of mail admins are unable to even spell RBL.

> > > The
> >
> > > majority of the remainder is unable to comprehend the implications

> > > of
> > the
> > > functionality on their environment, whether they understand how it

> > > actually works or not.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william@;techsanctuary.org]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:16 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's a little harsh. (I love it when you're harsh...)
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean they are not aware of it, or they are unable to 
> > > > comprehend its functionality?
> > > >
> > > > William
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Chris 
> > > > Scharff
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 97.25% of mail admins are too stupid to understand what an RBL 
> > > > actually is/does. I for one hope they continue to rely on 3rd 
> > > > parties to provide the functionality, otherwise I'll likely have

> > > > to join you in

RE: Comp Time Question

[Bob Sadler]

Here at the City and being "Salary", my boss allows me to take a 1 to 1
ratio for time I work over 40 hours :)



Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
Internet/WAN Specialist
913-339-6700 x194
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-Original Message-
From: Brian Dugas [mailto:brian@;summit-technical.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 9:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Comp Time Question


Does anyone know if there is a standard policy out there for Comp Time?

I have been asked to find out what other companies do to compensate
their employees For working off hours(nights, weekends), beyond their
normal workweek.

Example:  If I have to come in on a Saturday to install a new antivirus
package and it take 4 hours, do I get 4 hours off during the week or
what?


Thanks - Brian


Brian Dugas
MIS Director
Summit Technical Services, Inc.
Ph: 401-736-8323 ext. 11
Fax:401-738-9813
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Rules not running correctly

[Bob Wright]

Depends on the client that wrote the rules.

The earlier versions of Outlook had an "Inbox Assistant" where the newer ones
have a "Rules Wizard".  The two put some types of "rules" in different places,
that is they are "server based" or "client based" depending on the client 
version
used to create them.  In particular I've seen this situation with autoreply 
rules
which we were using to autorespond to messages with(out) a specific value in
the Subject field.

Sounds like you may have had some "Server based" rules that didn't make the 
move.
What do you mean by them running OK manually?  If you create an autoforwarding
rule with a client and save it then it doesn't work?  Is it still there 
when you go
back into the Rules Wizard and are your clients set up with the Rules Wizard or
the Inbox Assistant?  Maybe some of each or does some user have different
clients on different workstations?

Lemme know...

At 02:59 PM 10/27/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Yes that's the first thing I usually do but I have not found anything
pertaining to my problem.
Now that being said I may have overlooked something and if you know of
anywhere to point me to I would be appreciative.

-Original Message-
From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams@;gettyimages.com]
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 7:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules not running correctly


Have you tried starting with the knowledge base?

-Original Message-
From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:JMorgan@;SCSDB.k12.sc.us]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Rules not running correctly


I have recently moved all my Exchange Environment to a new server Exchange
5.5 SP4 Windows 2000 SP2

While doing this I deleted the First Server in the site, (no big deal I've
done this before) However now some of my users have rules that are no longer
functioning primarily rules that forward e-mail when they receive it. If I
run the rule manually it works great but they are not running automatically.

Does anyone have any ideas where I need to start troubleshooting this.

Joshua





Joshua Morgan
Network Engineer
South Carolina School for the Deaf and Blind
Phone: (864) 577-7548


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Re: .Net Server and Exchange 5.5

[Bob]

Hi

I'm a microsoft beta tester for .NET and have just installed 3xchange 5.5 on
.net server and it works ok


Bob
- Original Message -
From: "Finch Brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 5:30 PM
Subject: RE: .Net Server and Exchange 5.5


> Thanks, I guess I should be a bit more clear, I'm not looking for any
> change in the 5.5 program or for it to be aware of anything. I just want
the
> services to start if I choose to upgrade a NT4 box to a .NET box. As in
the
> upgrade path to Exchange2000 required the NT4 system first upgrade to
Win2K,
> my thinking is for us holdouts to be attracted to the next Exchange
version
> beyond Exchange2000, a upgrade path will probably be made available. That
> means NT4 -> .NET first (hopefully).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:danielc@;dc-resources.net]
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:42
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: .Net Server and Exchange 5.5
>
>
> Do I know for sure? No. Can I make an educated guess? Yes. No, 5.5 will
not
> be made .NET aware.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Finch Brett [mailto:brett.finch@;hrs.ualberta.ca]
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: .Net Server and Exchange 5.5
>
>
>  Well I know SPK3 for Exchange2K was released for compatibility with .Net
> server but I am assuming it was more of a ADS issue. Does anyone know (or
> are they now) if running 5.5 on a .NET server is being done. I know MS
hopes
> the last of us NT4 die hards go to .Net and AD 1.1 which is exactly what
we
> are planning for.
>
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RE: Multiple SMTP ports

[Bob Hollingsworth]

They block port 25 except to their mail server which has been very
un-reliable lately.  Until I can get a new service, I was hoping to try
to relay the branch mail through our server on another port

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-215337@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Craig A. Mills
Sent: October 24, 2002 8:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Multiple SMTP ports

Out of curiosity why does the isp block port 25? You're paying for the
service.

Craig A. Mills
Computer Aided Management, Inc.
371 Oak Pl.,  Ste. H
Brea, Ca. 92821
(714) 257-0108




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:bounce-exchange-365265@;ls.swynk.com]On Behalf Of Aaron Brasslett
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Multiple SMTP ports


I don't think you'll get Exchange to listen on two ports for SMTP, but
you
may be able to accomplish this with your firewall.

Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Bob Hollingsworth [mailto:bhollingsworth@;sympatico.ca]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Multiple SMTP ports


Is it possible to make an Exchange 2000 server listen to multiple smtp
ports(i.e. port 25 and 30)?  One of our branch offices has there own
mail
server but the DSL isp block outbound 25 and I need to get around this
to
get mail to our server.

Thanks

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Multiple SMTP ports

[Bob Hollingsworth]

Is it possible to make an Exchange 2000 server listen to multiple smtp
ports(i.e. port 25 and 30)?  One of our branch offices has there own mail
server but the DSL isp block outbound 25 and I need to get around this to
get mail to our server.

Thanks

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Exchange User Details

[Bob]

Hi All,

At my last place of work we had some kind of template that users could use
and it allowed them to change their exchange details.
Does anyone know where I could get hold of this utility or even what it is ?

Thanks in advance

Bob



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RE: Latest NAV for Exchange 5.5 ??

[Schuessler, Bob (Efdsouth)]

Version: 2.18 (Build 76) 

-Original Message-
From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 09:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Latest NAV for Exchange 5.5 ??


I am running NAVMSE version 2.17 build 75 on my exchange 5.5 server.  Are
there any newer versions available for exchange 5.5?  I have background
scanning enabled (and combo mode) and still get errors (from outlook) when
sending emails with attachments.  Outlook tells me the delivery failed, and
the message seems to disappear for a while (does not even show up in sent
items) but after a few minutes it does get delivered OK (and then shows up
in sent items).  I probably just need a faster server as it seems that
outlook is timing out while the server struggles to keep up with scanning.


Tom

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