I am not "quibbling" with what you said, I'm instead taking offense at what you said. You see, you can't claim to be the "all ethical" sort you want, if you can't even pass the ethics test of your own making. I didn't post any of those points on your website, someone from YOUR company did, and you are the one claiming to hold them near and dear.
How interesting that you choose to respond ONLY to one point, and then make irrelevant statements about people calling you names. Since I didn't call you names sir, perhaps you should go back and re-read the whole message. It's not that I consider you a liar, or that you are stupid. I now consider you incapable of having any type of intelligent discussion based on the fact that you choose to ignore 2/3rds of what was posted, or should I just assume that you chose not to discuss those points because you couldn't keep your "I have my Ethics" argument and all this would be moot? Speaking of MOOT, can anyone tell me what top 10 classic rock single contains the word "MOOT"? Bob Sadler -----Original Message----- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics So you are going to quibble with things that "I" said? You people are so whacked out that it is utterly incomprehensible. So where were you when I was called a "liar" or a "wife beater" or "stupid" or "idiot" or that I "starve children". All of that is OK in your whacky bizarro world, but explaining to someone that if you start a fight (in email for Christ's sake) that I will finish that fight. Oh that is TERRIBLE! How could you SAY such a thing. Never mind the "liar", "stupid", "idiot" stuff, THAT, sir, is uncalled for. Bob, you amaze me. > You know, I'm just as happy to NOT read this dribble, but when someone > points out so wonderfully how ethical they are, and we can all go to > www.infonition.com/ethics.shtml to prove it, then someone like me just > might go there and read, and low and behold what is it we find? > > Well, this character Greg, wants us all to believe his "ethics" are > without question. So, let's take a look at his ethics page and see > what he's supposed to be doing. > > First, Greg's point of vendor conflict is answered here: > > To never accept compensation from vendors for recommending products=20 > > One must ask then Greg, have you ever been to a seminar, conference, > or LUNCH where the vendor presenting paid for the meal, the snacks, > the coffee? > > Second, Greg's list of ethics claim: > > To disclose any and all influences that may affect our > recommendations=20 > > Greg, does this mean that if I were to speak to you over the phone, > you would tell me just how many times your Cisco, Microsoft, Bay > Networks, etc., Rep. has called? Or are you saying that you never > meet with the vendors to discuss how their products can benefit your > customers? Do you ever read trade magazines that discuss the use of > one vendors products over another? Will you then tell me all the > magazines you read, what date, publication, page number, etc? > > Third, Greg's list goes on to say: > > To be fair and accurate when resolving disputes, problems or issues > [and] To conduct ourselves in a professional manner at all times=20 > > One must ask then Greg, exactly how does your statement of: "Wrong. > You brought it up by throwing stones my way. I don't pick fights, I > finish them." work into these statements? > > This is just what I don't need in a vendor. Someone who believes he's > always right, and if he is going to have a fight with his customers, > HE'S going to finish it. I can see now why people flock to your > organization Greg. > > The point is, don't say something matters a great deal to you, and > then give this list plenty of examples showing that apparently it > doesn't. You want to wave a flag around and say "I have ethics" and > yet not live by those same ethics, then be prepared to be inundated > with the onslaught. > > I would trust Ed, Tom, Tony, and even Don, further then I would trust > someone yelling about how ethical they are and at the same time say > they'll finish any fight. > > It's time to throttle back now greg, and realize this. You are a > Sales Manager for a company that apparently you are supposed to be > drumming up business for. Just how much business do you think you > have generated on this list after acting in the manner you did? > > Bob Sadler > > -----Original Message----- _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
