RE: E2K question

2002-10-15 Thread Etts, Russell

Hi There

Interesting that you should ask this question - I had the same question come
up recently.  The way it was explained to me was this:

If you do not back up all of your stores, then none of your transaction logs
will be purged.  So

The correct answer is...

1) Disable circular logging
2) Perform full backups for all stores as often as your tape supply will
allow.

HTH  

Russell



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From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups that
alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and
a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on the
following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being purged,
and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What should
be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the new
disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public Folder
Store instead of normal backups. 


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-15 Thread Chris Scharff

Not exactly.

 -Original Message-
 From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:08 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
 Hi There
 
 Interesting that you should ask this question - I had the 
 same question come up recently.  The way it was explained to 
 me was this:
 
 If you do not back up all of your stores, then none of your 
 transaction logs will be purged.  So
 
 The correct answer is...
 
 1) Disable circular logging
 2) Perform full backups for all stores as often as your tape 
 supply will allow.
 
 HTH  
 
 Russell
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: E2K question
 
 
 Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
 Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group 
 containing three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. 
 You perform nightly backups that alter between a normal 
 backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and a normal 
 backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on 
 the following night. You notice that transaction log files 
 are not being purged, and that they are now consuming nearly 
 all available disk space. What should be done?
 
 
 
  a. Disable circular logging.
 
  b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log 
 files to the new disk.
 
  c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage 
 Group in addition to the current backups.
 
  d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and 
 the Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-15 Thread Etts, Russell

Wait a second

If this is a test question, let us know next time.  If you pulled this off a
Microsoft test, you're in violation of the non disclosure you signed.

Thanks

Russell

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From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:08 AM
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Subject: RE: E2K question


Hi There

Interesting that you should ask this question - I had the same question come
up recently.  The way it was explained to me was this:

If you do not back up all of your stores, then none of your transaction logs
will be purged.  So

The correct answer is...

1) Disable circular logging
2) Perform full backups for all stores as often as your tape supply will
allow.

HTH  

Russell



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From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups that
alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and
a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on the
following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being purged,
and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What should
be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the new
disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public Folder
Store instead of normal backups. 


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-15 Thread Etts, Russell

Hi there

OOppsss... Where did I error?

Thanks

Russell

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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:03 PM
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Subject: RE: E2K question


Not exactly.

 -Original Message-
 From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:08 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
 Hi There
 
 Interesting that you should ask this question - I had the 
 same question come up recently.  The way it was explained to 
 me was this:
 
 If you do not back up all of your stores, then none of your 
 transaction logs will be purged.  So
 
 The correct answer is...
 
 1) Disable circular logging
 2) Perform full backups for all stores as often as your tape 
 supply will allow.
 
 HTH  
 
 Russell
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: E2K question
 
 
 Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
 Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group 
 containing three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. 
 You perform nightly backups that alter between a normal 
 backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and a normal 
 backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on 
 the following night. You notice that transaction log files 
 are not being purged, and that they are now consuming nearly 
 all available disk space. What should be done?
 
 
 
  a. Disable circular logging.
 
  b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log 
 files to the new disk.
 
  c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage 
 Group in addition to the current backups.
 
  d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and 
 the Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-15 Thread Chris Scharff

Well, one pendantic point and one possibly not so much... 

If you don't back up all of the databases within the same /storage group/ in
a backup job, the logs won't be purged. And, disabling circular logging,
while a nice option in general doesn't solve the original problem as
stated... In fact if it were really enabled it would only exacerbate the
problem. Disabling might be appropriate after the root problem were
resolved.

 -Original Message-
 From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:30 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
 Hi there
 
 OOppsss... Where did I error?
 
 Thanks
 
 Russell
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:03 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
 Not exactly.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:08 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: E2K question
  
  
  Hi There
  
  Interesting that you should ask this question - I had the
  same question come up recently.  The way it was explained to 
  me was this:
  
  If you do not back up all of your stores, then none of your
  transaction logs will be purged.  So
  
  The correct answer is...
  
  1) Disable circular logging
  2) Perform full backups for all stores as often as your tape
  supply will allow.
  
  HTH
  
  Russell
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: E2K question
  
  
  Answer pelase. I think it's A.
  
  
  
  Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group
  containing three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. 
  You perform nightly backups that alter between a normal 
  backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and a normal 
  backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on 
  the following night. You notice that transaction log files 
  are not being purged, and that they are now consuming nearly 
  all available disk space. What should be done?
  
  
  
   a. Disable circular logging.
  
   b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log
  files to the new disk.
  
   c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage
  Group in addition to the current backups.
  
   d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and
  the Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 
  
  
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-15 Thread Etts, Russell

Hi Chris

Thanks for the answer.  I appreciate it :)

Thanks

Russell

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 3:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K question


Well, one pendantic point and one possibly not so much... 

If you don't back up all of the databases within the same /storage group/ in
a backup job, the logs won't be purged. And, disabling circular logging,
while a nice option in general doesn't solve the original problem as
stated... In fact if it were really enabled it would only exacerbate the
problem. Disabling might be appropriate after the root problem were
resolved.

 -Original Message-
 From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:30 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
 Hi there
 
 OOppsss... Where did I error?
 
 Thanks
 
 Russell
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 12:03 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
 Not exactly.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:08 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: E2K question
  
  
  Hi There
  
  Interesting that you should ask this question - I had the
  same question come up recently.  The way it was explained to 
  me was this:
  
  If you do not back up all of your stores, then none of your
  transaction logs will be purged.  So
  
  The correct answer is...
  
  1) Disable circular logging
  2) Perform full backups for all stores as often as your tape
  supply will allow.
  
  HTH
  
  Russell
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: E2K question
  
  
  Answer pelase. I think it's A.
  
  
  
  Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group
  containing three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. 
  You perform nightly backups that alter between a normal 
  backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and a normal 
  backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on 
  the following night. You notice that transaction log files 
  are not being purged, and that they are now consuming nearly 
  all available disk space. What should be done?
  
  
  
   a. Disable circular logging.
  
   b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log
  files to the new disk.
  
   c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage
  Group in addition to the current backups.
  
   d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and
  the Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 
  
  
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Re: E2K question

2002-10-15 Thread John Q Jr.

It is a sample question! Man what a mistake it was to post this.
Give this list something to dwell on,  they will.

- John Q

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From: Etts, Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: E2K question


 Wait a second

 If this is a test question, let us know next time.  If you pulled this off
a
 Microsoft test, you're in violation of the non disclosure you signed.

 Thanks

 Russell

 -Original Message-
 From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 11:08 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: E2K question


 Hi There

 Interesting that you should ask this question - I had the same question
come
 up recently.  The way it was explained to me was this:

 If you do not back up all of your stores, then none of your transaction
logs
 will be purged.  So

 The correct answer is...

 1) Disable circular logging
 2) Perform full backups for all stores as often as your tape supply will
 allow.

 HTH

 Russell



 -Original Message-
 From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: E2K question


 Answer pelase. I think it's A.



 Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
 Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups that
 alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night
and
 a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on the
 following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being
purged,
 and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What
should
 be done?



  a. Disable circular logging.

  b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the new
 disk.

  c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
 addition to the current backups.

  d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
Folder
 Store instead of normal backups. 


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-15 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones

Fine. I'll work for intelligent people. When said customer's got molten slag
for a server and is begging me to return and fix things, I'll do so,
provided it's on my terms.

(:=

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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:33 PM
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Subject: RE: E2K question


Some customers will say: you are just trying to cut corners and give me a
cheap solution or you don't know crap about clusters, I have been to
such-and-such conference where Bill Gates himself pull the power cable

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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
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After disabling circular logging and firing the moron who turned it on in
the first place.

(:=

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e.  perform full online nightly backups of entire storage group.  :o)


William



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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups
that
alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night
and
a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on
the
following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being
purged,
and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What
should
be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the
new
disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
Folder
Store instead of normal backups. 


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-15 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones

Logs are only overwritten after they've been committed. On a sufficiently
crappy box, the log files could definitely pile up. Of course, on a
sufficiently crappy box, log files pile up for all kinds of reasons...

(:=

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Actually, there wouldn't necessarily be only one log; in fact there'd likely
be more than one. but I don't see how circular logging would result in more
logs than one would typically find in an environment where circular logging
were disabled. A seems to be the least likely of any of the possible
answers. B can likely be discounted because Microsoft thinks everything can
be solved through software, leaving one to choose between the almost equally
bad answers of C  D.


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 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:27 PM
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 Subject: Re: E2K question


 Because if you had circular logging enabaled it would prevent
 the purging of the logs. And more importantly there would
 only be one log. So it was misleading, and confusing. What I
 should have asked was, do you need to backup the entire
 Storage group to purge the logs? I know that there is only
 a transaction log per storage group, but I did not see any
 reference to any items describing when logs are purged or
 not. Even in the Microsoft Disaster Recovery Plan Exchange
 2000 paper, but I'm still reading.

 - John Q

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 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:55 PM
 Subject: RE: E2K question


  Why would you think A, 'disabling circular logging' would be the
  correct answer?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:18 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: E2K question
  
  
   Answer pelase. I think it's A.
  
  
  
   Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing
   three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You
 perform nightly
   backups that alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox
   Stores on one night and a normal backup of the other
 Mailbox Store
   and Public Folder Store on the following night. You notice that
   transaction log files are not being purged, and that they are now
   consuming nearly all available disk space. What should be done?
  
  
  
a. Disable circular logging.
  
b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to
   the new disk.
  
c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire
 Storage Group
   in addition to the current backups.
  
d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the
   Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 

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E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread John Q Jr.

Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups that
alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and
a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on the
following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being purged,
and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What should
be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the new
disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public Folder
Store instead of normal backups. 


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread William Lefkovics

e.  perform full online nightly backups of entire storage group.  :o)


William 
 


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Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups
that
alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night
and
a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on
the
following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being
purged,
and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What
should
be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the
new
disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
Folder
Store instead of normal backups. 


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Roger Seielstad

How about:

E) None of the above

Of course, the correct answer is:

F) stop asking test questions in a technical support forum. (please also see
E above).


--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: E2K question
 
 
 Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
 Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
 Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly 
 backups that
 alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on 
 one night and
 a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder 
 Store on the
 following night. You notice that transaction log files are 
 not being purged,
 and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk 
 space. What should
 be done?
 
 
 
  a. Disable circular logging.
 
  b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log 
 files to the new
 disk.
 
  c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
 addition to the current backups.
 
  d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and 
 the Public Folder
 Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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Re: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Tony Hlabse


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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: E2K question


 e.  perform full online nightly backups of entire storage group.  :o)
 
 
 William 
  
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Q Jr.
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:18 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: E2K question
 
 
 Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
 Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
 Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups
 that
 alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night
 and
 a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on
 the
 following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being
 purged,
 and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What
 should
 be done?
 
 
 
  a. Disable circular logging.
 
  b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the
 new
 disk.
 
  c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
 addition to the current backups.
 
  d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
 Folder
 Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Are you e-mailing straight from the testing facility?

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From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups that
alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and
a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on the
following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being purged,
and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What should
be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the new
disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public Folder
Store instead of normal backups. 


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Re: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Tony Hlabse

I won't tell you the answer but I can tell you where to look. Try the
Disaster Recovery for Exchange 2000 paper from Ms. Learn it and know it.

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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: E2K question


Are you e-mailing straight from the testing facility?

-Original Message-
From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups that
alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and
a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on the
following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being purged,
and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What should
be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the new
disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public Folder
Store instead of normal backups. 


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread William Lefkovics

Is Ms. Learnit a good teacher?

William 
 


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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:48 PM
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Subject: Re: E2K question


I won't tell you the answer but I can tell you where to look. Try the
Disaster Recovery for Exchange 2000 paper from Ms. Learn it and know it.

- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: E2K question


Are you e-mailing straight from the testing facility?

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From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups
that
alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night
and
a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on
the
following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being
purged,
and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What
should
be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the
new
disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
Folder
Store instead of normal backups. 


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Hutchins, Mike

What about Ms. Knowit??

Mike

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Subject: RE: E2K question


Is Ms. Learnit a good teacher?

William 
 


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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:48 PM
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I won't tell you the answer but I can tell you where to look. Try the
Disaster Recovery for Exchange 2000 paper from Ms. Learn it and know it.

- Original Message -
From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: E2K question


Are you e-mailing straight from the testing facility?

-Original Message-
From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups
that alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one
night and a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder
Store on the following night. You notice that transaction log files are
not being purged, and that they are now consuming nearly all available
disk space. What should be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the
new disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
Folder Store instead of normal backups. 


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Gary Barnett

She's been stood up by Mr. Knowit-All

--Gary

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Subject: RE: E2K question


What about Ms. Knowit??

Mike

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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:56 PM
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Subject: RE: E2K question


Is Ms. Learnit a good teacher?

William 
 


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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:48 PM
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Subject: Re: E2K question


I won't tell you the answer but I can tell you where to look. Try the
Disaster Recovery for Exchange 2000 paper from Ms. Learn it and know it.

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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: E2K question


Are you e-mailing straight from the testing facility?

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From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three Mailbox
Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups that alter
between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and a
normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on the
following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being purged,
and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What should
be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the new
disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public Folder
Store instead of normal backups. 


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Re: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Tony Hlabse

Rough crowd today. Still must be an MEC effect going on.

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What about Ms. Knowit??

Mike

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Subject: RE: E2K question


Is Ms. Learnit a good teacher?

William 
 


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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:48 PM
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Subject: Re: E2K question


I won't tell you the answer but I can tell you where to look. Try the
Disaster Recovery for Exchange 2000 paper from Ms. Learn it and know it.

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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: E2K question


Are you e-mailing straight from the testing facility?

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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups
that alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one
night and a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder
Store on the following night. You notice that transaction log files are
not being purged, and that they are now consuming nearly all available
disk space. What should be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the
new disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread William Lefkovics

The future Mech-Ed?

William 
 


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Rough crowd today. Still must be an MEC effect going on.

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What about Ms. Knowit??

Mike

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Is Ms. Learnit a good teacher?

William 
 


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I won't tell you the answer but I can tell you where to look. Try the
Disaster Recovery for Exchange 2000 paper from Ms. Learn it and know it.

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Are you e-mailing straight from the testing facility?

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Answer pelase. I think it's A.


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones

After disabling circular logging and firing the moron who turned it on in
the first place.

(:=

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e.  perform full online nightly backups of entire storage group.  :o)


William



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Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups
that
alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night
and
a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on
the
following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being
purged,
and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What
should
be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the
new
disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
Folder
Store instead of normal backups. 


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

Some customers will say: you are just trying to cut corners and give me a cheap 
solution or you don't know crap about clusters, I have been to such-and-such 
conference where Bill Gates himself pull the power cable

-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K question


After disabling circular logging and firing the moron who turned it on in
the first place.

(:=

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Lefkovics
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K question


e.  perform full online nightly backups of entire storage group.  :o)


William



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups
that
alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night
and
a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on
the
following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being
purged,
and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What
should
be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the
new
disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
Folder
Store instead of normal backups. 


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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Roger Seielstad

Then become better at explaining your point. And its not cutting corners if
you're trying to save them from unnecessary spending.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:33 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
 Some customers will say: you are just trying to cut corners 
 and give me a cheap solution or you don't know crap about 
 clusters, I have been to such-and-such conference where Bill 
 Gates himself pull the power cable
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
 After disabling circular logging and firing the moron who 
 turned it on in
 the first place.
 
 (:=
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William
 Lefkovics
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:02 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
 e.  perform full online nightly backups of entire storage group.  :o)
 
 
 William
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Q Jr.
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:18 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: E2K question
 
 
 Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
 Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
 Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups
 that
 alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on 
 one night
 and
 a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on
 the
 following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being
 purged,
 and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What
 should
 be done?
 
 
 
  a. Disable circular logging.
 
  b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the
 new
 disk.
 
  c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
 addition to the current backups.
 
  d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
 Folder
 Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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Re: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Tony Hlabse

As a former IT business owner I always had to, at times, rustle with. Do I
sell him something expense or do I sell him something that a good fit and
hope I get more business from him.

- Original Message -
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:35 PM
Subject: RE: E2K question


 Then become better at explaining your point. And its not cutting corners
if
 you're trying to save them from unnecessary spending.

 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
 Atlanta, GA


  -Original Message-
  From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:33 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
  Some customers will say: you are just trying to cut corners
  and give me a cheap solution or you don't know crap about
  clusters, I have been to such-and-such conference where Bill
  Gates himself pull the power cable
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:11 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
  After disabling circular logging and firing the moron who
  turned it on in
  the first place.
 
  (:=
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William
  Lefkovics
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:02 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
  e.  perform full online nightly backups of entire storage group.  :o)
 
 
  William
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Q Jr.
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:18 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: E2K question
 
 
  Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
  Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
  Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups
  that
  alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on
  one night
  and
  a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on
  the
  following night. You notice that transaction log files are not being
  purged,
  and that they are now consuming nearly all available disk space. What
  should
  be done?
 
 
 
   a. Disable circular logging.
 
   b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the
  new
  disk.
 
   c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
  addition to the current backups.
 
   d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
  Folder
  Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Chris Scharff

Why would you think A, 'disabling circular logging' would be the correct
answer?

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:18 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: E2K question
 
 
 Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
 Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group 
 containing three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. 
 You perform nightly backups that alter between a normal 
 backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and a normal 
 backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on 
 the following night. You notice that transaction log files 
 are not being purged, and that they are now consuming nearly 
 all available disk space. What should be done?
 
 
 
  a. Disable circular logging.
 
  b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log 
 files to the new disk.
 
  c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage 
 Group in addition to the current backups.
 
  d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and 
 the Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Ed Crowley

The correct answer would be C.  The transaction logs are only purged
when the entire storage group is backed up by either a full or
incremental backup (not a differential).

However, this is just the kind of test question I hate.  Although it
does test your ability to apply your understanding of how the systems
work to diagnose a problem, the proposed solutions are each suboptimal.
Everyone knows you should take full Exchange backups every night,
period.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Q Jr.
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K question


Answer pelase. I think it's A.



Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing three
Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly backups
that alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one
night and a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder
Store on the following night. You notice that transaction log files are
not being purged, and that they are now consuming nearly all available
disk space. What should be done?



 a. Disable circular logging.

 b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to the
new disk.

 c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group in
addition to the current backups.

 d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the Public
Folder Store instead of normal backups. 


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Re: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread John Q Jr.

Because if you had circular logging enabaled it would prevent the purging of
the logs.
And more importantly there would only be one log. So it was misleading, and
confusing.
What I should have asked was, do you need to backup the entire Storage
group to purge the logs?
I know that there is only a transaction log per storage group, but I did
not see any reference to any items describing when logs are purged or not.
Even in the Microsoft Disaster Recovery Plan Exchange 2000 paper, but I'm
still reading.

- John Q

- Original Message -
From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: E2K question


 Why would you think A, 'disabling circular logging' would be the correct
 answer?

  -Original Message-
  From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:18 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: E2K question
 
 
  Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
  Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group
  containing three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store.
  You perform nightly backups that alter between a normal
  backup of two of the Mailbox Stores on one night and a normal
  backup of the other Mailbox Store and Public Folder Store on
  the following night. You notice that transaction log files
  are not being purged, and that they are now consuming nearly
  all available disk space. What should be done?
 
 
 
   a. Disable circular logging.
 
   b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log
  files to the new disk.
 
   c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage
  Group in addition to the current backups.
 
   d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and
  the Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Tom Meunier

I think the point was filling up the drive.  The idea behind circular
logging is that your logs get recycled and shouldn't be growing to the
point where they're filling up the drive, so they want you to eliminate
that as an answer.

 -Original Message-
 From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Posted At: Monday, October 14, 2002 04:27 PM
 Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
 Conversation: E2K question
 Subject: Re: E2K question
 
 
 Because if you had circular logging enabaled it would prevent 
 the purging of the logs. And more importantly there would 
 only be one log. So it was misleading, and confusing. What I 
 should have asked was, do you need to backup the entire 
 Storage group to purge the logs? I know that there is only 
 a transaction log per storage group, but I did not see any 
 reference to any items describing when logs are purged or 
 not. Even in the Microsoft Disaster Recovery Plan Exchange 
 2000 paper, but I'm still reading.
 
 - John Q
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:55 PM
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
  Why would you think A, 'disabling circular logging' would be the 
  correct answer?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:18 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: E2K question
  
  
   Answer pelase. I think it's A.
  
  
  
   Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing 
   three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You 
 perform nightly 
   backups that alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox 
   Stores on one night and a normal backup of the other 
 Mailbox Store 
   and Public Folder Store on the following night. You notice that 
   transaction log files are not being purged, and that they are now 
   consuming nearly all available disk space. What should be done?
  
  
  
a. Disable circular logging.
  
b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to 
   the new disk.
  
c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire 
 Storage Group 
   in addition to the current backups.
  
d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the 
   Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 
  
  
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Chris Scharff

Actually, there wouldn't necessarily be only one log; in fact there'd likely
be more than one. but I don't see how circular logging would result in more
logs than one would typically find in an environment where circular logging
were disabled. A seems to be the least likely of any of the possible
answers. B can likely be discounted because Microsoft thinks everything can
be solved through software, leaving one to choose between the almost equally
bad answers of C  D.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:27 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: E2K question
 
 
 Because if you had circular logging enabaled it would prevent 
 the purging of the logs. And more importantly there would 
 only be one log. So it was misleading, and confusing. What I 
 should have asked was, do you need to backup the entire 
 Storage group to purge the logs? I know that there is only 
 a transaction log per storage group, but I did not see any 
 reference to any items describing when logs are purged or 
 not. Even in the Microsoft Disaster Recovery Plan Exchange 
 2000 paper, but I'm still reading.
 
 - John Q
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:55 PM
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
  Why would you think A, 'disabling circular logging' would be the 
  correct answer?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:18 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: E2K question
  
  
   Answer pelase. I think it's A.
  
  
  
   Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing 
   three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You 
 perform nightly 
   backups that alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox 
   Stores on one night and a normal backup of the other 
 Mailbox Store 
   and Public Folder Store on the following night. You notice that 
   transaction log files are not being purged, and that they are now 
   consuming nearly all available disk space. What should be done?
  
  
  
a. Disable circular logging.
  
b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to 
   the new disk.
  
c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire 
 Storage Group 
   in addition to the current backups.
  
d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the 
   Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 

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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Ed Crowley

If you had circular logging enabled the logs wouldn't be growing.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Q Jr.
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: E2K question


Because if you had circular logging enabaled it would prevent the
purging of the logs. And more importantly there would only be one log.
So it was misleading, and confusing. What I should have asked was, do
you need to backup the entire Storage group to purge the logs? I know
that there is only a transaction log per storage group, but I did not
see any reference to any items describing when logs are purged or not.
Even in the Microsoft Disaster Recovery Plan Exchange 2000 paper, but
I'm still reading.

- John Q

- Original Message -
From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: E2K question


 Why would you think A, 'disabling circular logging' would be the 
 correct answer?

  -Original Message-
  From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:18 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: E2K question
 
 
  Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
  Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing 
  three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly 
  backups that alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox 
  Stores on one night and a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store 
  and Public Folder Store on the following night. You notice that 
  transaction log files are not being purged, and that they are now 
  consuming nearly all available disk space. What should be done?
 
 
 
   a. Disable circular logging.
 
   b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to 
  the new disk.
 
   c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group 
  in addition to the current backups.
 
   d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the 
  Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Ed Crowley

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They were touring CA.

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If you had circular logging enabled the logs wouldn't be growing.

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Because if you had circular logging enabaled it would prevent the
purging of the logs. And more importantly there would only be one log.
So it was misleading, and confusing. What I should have asked was, do
you need to backup the entire Storage group to purge the logs? I know
that there is only a transaction log per storage group, but I did not
see any reference to any items describing when logs are purged or not.
Even in the Microsoft Disaster Recovery Plan Exchange 2000 paper, but
I'm still reading.

- John Q

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Subject: RE: E2K question


 Why would you think A, 'disabling circular logging' would be the 
 correct answer?

  -Original Message-
  From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:18 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: E2K question
 
 
  Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
  Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing 
  three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly 
  backups that alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox 
  Stores on one night and a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store 
  and Public Folder Store on the following night. You notice that 
  transaction log files are not being purged, and that they are now 
  consuming nearly all available disk space. What should be done?
 
 
 
   a. Disable circular logging.
 
   b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to 
  the new disk.
 
   c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group 
  in addition to the current backups.
 
   d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the 
  Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread William Lefkovics

Keep your friends close, your enemies closer.


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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:47 PM
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They were touring CA.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K question


If you had circular logging enabled the logs wouldn't be growing.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
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Subject: Re: E2K question


Because if you had circular logging enabaled it would prevent the
purging of the logs. And more importantly there would only be one log.
So it was misleading, and confusing. What I should have asked was, do
you need to backup the entire Storage group to purge the logs? I know
that there is only a transaction log per storage group, but I did not
see any reference to any items describing when logs are purged or not.
Even in the Microsoft Disaster Recovery Plan Exchange 2000 paper, but
I'm still reading.

- John Q

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From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: E2K question


 Why would you think A, 'disabling circular logging' would be the 
 correct answer?

  -Original Message-
  From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:18 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: E2K question
 
 
  Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
  Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing 
  three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly 
  backups that alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox 
  Stores on one night and a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store 
  and Public Folder Store on the following night. You notice that 
  transaction log files are not being purged, and that they are now 
  consuming nearly all available disk space. What should be done?
 
 
 
   a. Disable circular logging.
 
   b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to 
  the new disk.
 
   c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group 
  in addition to the current backups.
 
   d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the 
  Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Martin Blackstone

That's not what I meant, but now that you mention it, im sure I saw them
lurking around there.

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Subject: RE: E2K question


They were touring CA.

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K question


If you had circular logging enabled the logs wouldn't be growing.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
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Because if you had circular logging enabaled it would prevent the purging of
the logs. And more importantly there would only be one log. So it was
misleading, and confusing. What I should have asked was, do you need to
backup the entire Storage group to purge the logs? I know that there is
only a transaction log per storage group, but I did not see any reference to
any items describing when logs are purged or not. Even in the Microsoft
Disaster Recovery Plan Exchange 2000 paper, but I'm still reading.

- John Q

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Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: E2K question


 Why would you think A, 'disabling circular logging' would be the
 correct answer?

  -Original Message-
  From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:18 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: E2K question
 
 
  Answer pelase. I think it's A.
 
 
 
  Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing
  three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You perform nightly 
  backups that alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox 
  Stores on one night and a normal backup of the other Mailbox Store 
  and Public Folder Store on the following night. You notice that 
  transaction log files are not being purged, and that they are now 
  consuming nearly all available disk space. What should be done?
 
 
 
   a. Disable circular logging.
 
   b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to
  the new disk.
 
   c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire Storage Group
  in addition to the current backups.
 
   d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the
  Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 
 
 
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RE: E2K question

2002-10-14 Thread Webb, Andy

The answer, of course, is C. (yes, I'm giving it away.  I'm feeling generous today. 
Hopefully I'm generous and right. g)

C isn't a horrible answer and it does meet the requirement.  If I'm swapping out tapes 
each night and don't have enough space on a tape for all the databases, but do have 
enough space for half the databases and the incremental log files from the whole 
storage group, then I can get logs cleared every night.  Otherwise, the fact that two 
of the databases are not backed up on any given night means the logs never truncate.

It does appear that a software improvement could be made such that a checkpoint could 
be stored for each database so that log truncation could take place (albeit less 
aggressively than if all the databases were backed up together), but then I think 
there are more important problems to solve (like, what's the next transender 
question?).

For those of you who went to MEC, but didn't stick around for the last session slot 
when Laurien Burchall discussed database internals, you missed a great session.  The 
offline QA afterward was also quite informative.

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:36 PM
Posted To: Microsoft Exchange
Conversation: E2K question
Subject: RE: E2K question


Actually, there wouldn't necessarily be only one log; in fact there'd likely
be more than one. but I don't see how circular logging would result in more
logs than one would typically find in an environment where circular logging
were disabled. A seems to be the least likely of any of the possible
answers. B can likely be discounted because Microsoft thinks everything can
be solved through software, leaving one to choose between the almost equally
bad answers of C  D.


 -Original Message-
 From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:27 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: E2K question
 
 
 Because if you had circular logging enabaled it would prevent 
 the purging of the logs. And more importantly there would 
 only be one log. So it was misleading, and confusing. What I 
 should have asked was, do you need to backup the entire 
 Storage group to purge the logs? I know that there is only 
 a transaction log per storage group, but I did not see any 
 reference to any items describing when logs are purged or 
 not. Even in the Microsoft Disaster Recovery Plan Exchange 
 2000 paper, but I'm still reading.
 
 - John Q
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:55 PM
 Subject: RE: E2K question
 
 
  Why would you think A, 'disabling circular logging' would be the 
  correct answer?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:18 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: E2K question
  
  
   Answer pelase. I think it's A.
  
  
  
   Your Exchange 2000 Server has a single storage group containing 
   three Mailbox Stores and a Public Folder Store. You 
 perform nightly 
   backups that alter between a normal backup of two of the Mailbox 
   Stores on one night and a normal backup of the other 
 Mailbox Store 
   and Public Folder Store on the following night. You notice that 
   transaction log files are not being purged, and that they are now 
   consuming nearly all available disk space. What should be done?
  
  
  
a. Disable circular logging.
  
b. Install a new hard disk and move the transaction log files to 
   the new disk.
  
c. Perform nightly incremental backups of the entire 
 Storage Group 
   in addition to the current backups.
  
d. Perform differential backups of the Mailbox Stores and the 
   Public Folder Store instead of normal backups. 

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