Re: [expert] rebuilding OO....
Ok,, You are probably right... I'm just guessing ... Though I've not been able to ever get the tiny font's into a really readable format (old eyes probably.*grin*) James On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 16:44, Damian Gatabria wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 05:43, James Sparenberg wrote: > > Damian, > > > > Took a look at mine... Yep you are right on a number of font types I've > > found that below 8 (or even at 8) I get nothing... Times was the only > > one that went smaller. I suspect but I'm not sure that is because these > > fonts don't go below 8. Not sure... > > > > James > > Actually James, this is a problem with XFT and OO not working > together. It arises whenever you have an XFT package > which is newer than the one shipped with 9.0. > > Is anybody at Cooker sure that OO is working fine for small > fonts? Would you please check? > > thanks > > Damian > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MNF vs SNF
On Thursday 16 January 2003 05:18 pm, Vincent Danen wrote: > On Thu Jan 16, 2003 at 02:45:22PM -0800, T E wrote: > > > The online docs should be available RSN. > > > > Can't wait!! Any idea of the time frame we're looking > > at? > > No clue, but I don't think it should take too long... maybe within a > week (or two?) I don't want to make promises since I'm not the one > doing it... =) > > > http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/72/SNF/en/user.html/ > > > > > I wouldn't use this as a basis for MNF. SNF is an > > > entirely different > > > creature... for one, it's based on ipchains and 2.2 > > > kernel, not > > > iptables and 2.4 kernel. Right there you have two > > > extremely different > > > implementations. The function is similar, as is the > > > name... that's > > > about it. =) > > > > Thanks! you saved me a few hours of unneeded > > studying... > > You're welcome. > > > > > Cookies Not Found > > > > > > > > I've noticed I'm not the only one having this > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > and I chimed in on that fact at > > > > > > alt.os.linux.mandrake > > > > > > > ...you guys have any ideas on this one? > > > > > > Could be that you're using IE... IIRC, this is a > > > problem there. Also, > > > there is a timeout, so if you idle for too long, > > > you'll be booted. Not > > > sure how long the timeout is tho (one could probably > > > log in and examine > > > the cookies for an expiry date to see how long they > > > remain alive for). > > > > Well, I highly doubt that it has to do with timeout > > since Logout/in happends within 1 minute. But, yes, I > > am using IE. I'm assuming a fix is in the works? I > > would hope so since IE is unfortunately very common... > > Plus, it would allow for the easy introduction of > > Linux into a windows enviornment =) > > Ah yes.. then it's IE. Unfortunately, I don't know if there is a fix > or what the fix might be other than using a different browser. Mozilla > works good... unsure of other browsers, although I suspect Netscape and > other browsers based on Mozilla will work as well. Dunno about others > like Opera and such. > Well that explains why I have no problems then. I use Mozilla from Mandrake 9.0. XP I use Netscape. I just subscribed to the snf list. I assume you'll move us over to the new one when it is changed eh? I'm looking forward to giving mnf another whack. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I know the > > > name is a bit of a > > > misnomer, since it's for the discussion of both SNF > > > and MNF. I'll be > > > changing the name of the list to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] soon. > > > > Excellent, I guess this is where I will be moving my > > future discussions... > > =) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MNF vs SNF
On Thursday 16 January 2003 08:04 am, T E wrote: > Er sorry Vincent if I confused you. I guess I have > been misunderstanding this whole Chapter 11 ordeal... > I was under the false impression that Mandrake was > disappearing. > > Lorne, I know what you mean about docs!! Has any one > else out there found a suitable doc or must we infact > shell out the $2,000? I did however find this for SNF > so maybe it's close enough: > > http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/72/SNF/en/user.html/ > > BTW, how has your implementation of MNF been coming? > Still "kicking your butt"? > It has been a week from hell. Working long hours and no time after work to play with it. I will try to start again this weekend. I'll go take a look see on the docs. I think that if they want acceptance of their product, then need to get folks like us singing the praises of it. Perhaps if they want it to remain a purely commercial product, that is fine, but maybe they need to consider crippleware that expires after 90 days or something. That wouldn't work for me, but to put the product out there with no docs doesn't seem to do it. :) > I seem to have run into a weird problem after I try to > configure MNF: I will log out then attempt to log back > in (naturally thru the web interface) and I receive a > return to the login screen with an error. This error > is as follows: > > Cookies Not Found > > I've noticed I'm not the only one having this problem > and I chimed in on that fact at alt.os.linux.mandrake > ...you guys have any ideas on this one? > I really haven't. I have had a problem when the key changes from a re-install etc, but a fellow can usually get around that fairly easily. > In closing, I think we need to get more dialog going > on this product. It appears to have massive > potential, yet little recognition, wouldn't you agree? > > --- Lorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 02:32 am, JP wrote: > > > T E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deeg zun bes op schoal um > > > > hej te kinne schrieve: > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > I highly recommend the newer one. I don't > > > > believe > > > > > > > there is any time bomb, and > > > > > I'm not sure if they require money after 6 > > > > months, > > > > > > > although it is certainly > > > > > worth what ever it is they charge. I > > > > subscribe, so > > > > > > > haven't actually purchased > > > > > a shrink wrap one. I think they get more money > > > > by > > > > > > > just donating so that is > > > > > what I did. > > > > > > > > Here is part of the reason why I believe there > > > > are > > > > > > only 6 months to register: I log into MNF and am > > > > greated with this text: > > > > > > > > "UPDATES: Don't forget to register your firewall > > > > to > > > > > > receive your free updates for 6 months. These > > > > updates > > > > > > are critical to keep your security product up to > > > > date > > > > > > and to maintain a high security level. These > > > > updates > > > > > > consist of improvements to most features, > > > > security > > > > > > fixes and more." > > > > > > > > Like I said updates are critical. And while > > > > this > > > > > > product may be worth every one of the 200,000 > > > > pennies > > > > > > spent on it, I need a FREE product since I > > > > basically > > > > > > have a 0 penny budget at the moment. > > > > > > > > It seems to me that if updates for SNF are free > > > > that > > > > > > may be the way to go. Don't get me wrong, I'd > > > > love to > > > > > > go with MNF, but I can't afford the price at the > > > > moment and will need eternal updates. > > > > > > it seems as if they try to get people to pay for > > > > the mnf updates, however, > > > > > I dont think you will have to do so in order to > > > > get the updates. > > > > > first of all, i just checked a mandrake updates > > > > mirror and there is a > > > > > seperate directory for mnf, that one could simply > > > > use (add to urpmi etc.) > > > > > without mandrake even knowing it. > > > > > > second, this mnf is basically a (heavily modified > > > > and stripped down) > > > > > version of mandrake 8.2. for which updates are > > > > freely available. see also > > > > > snf, which has a similar relationship to 7.2, with > > > > many packages in the > > > > > snf update directory being a simlink to the 7.2 > > > > updates. > > > > > all in all a rather unclear situation, as by > > > > reading the mandrake website > > > > > one would think you have to pay for security > > > > updates. > > > > > JP > > > > To make matters even weirder there is no > > documentation for it!?!??! It says if > > you didn't get documentation with it, to purchase a > > copy or something to that > > affect. MNF is kicking my butt! > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from > > MandrakeSoft? > > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.
Re: [expert] rebuilding OO....
> Is anybody at Cooker sure that OO is working fine for small > fonts? Would you please check? > please ignore this last part. I just made a post to cooker myself about it. bye Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What it's like trying to update 9.0 over a modem...
Pierre Fortin wrote: What it's like trying to update 9.0 over a modem... or why I complain about issues that will cause potential users to not adopt Mdk... :^( I can't do justice to the totality of the underlying issue of your post, however, I wonder if you know of the workaround when rpmdrake gets corrupted from a bad shutdown or other: rm any /var/lib/rpm/__db.00* rpm --rebuilddb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] rebuilding OO....
On Thursday 16 January 2003 05:43, James Sparenberg wrote: > Damian, > > Took a look at mine... Yep you are right on a number of font types I've > found that below 8 (or even at 8) I get nothing... Times was the only > one that went smaller. I suspect but I'm not sure that is because these > fonts don't go below 8. Not sure... > > James Actually James, this is a problem with XFT and OO not working together. It arises whenever you have an XFT package which is newer than the one shipped with 9.0. Is anybody at Cooker sure that OO is working fine for small fonts? Would you please check? thanks Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] pocket pc
i would like to know where i can get comunications software for my ipaq pocket pc under windows it uses microsoft active sync and sycronises with microsoft outlook. if u know of any where i can try looking for some software i can use to get it to sync with linux i would be very happy because i am a very happy linux user but i nead to be able to work with my pocket pc. yours sencirly Damon Kennedy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ut2003
Full - but I have it running now - FINALLY! Now for nvidia to patch their last 4191 drivers and I'll be a happy camper! Thanks, Mike On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 21:00:03 -0500 > From: Ronald J. Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] ut2003 > > On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:54 am, Michael Holt wrote: > > Hey all, > > Has anyone installed ut2003? I'm stumped - I've just spent the last two > > days trying to install but after about 6 or 7 hours, it goes into this > > loop where it keeps creating the same folder within it self ( it creates a > > folder called "scorched earth" and populates it with some files then under > > that directory it creates "scorched earth" then populates it with the same > > files as the last and keeps on going like that until I hit ^c to stop it) > > I've tried turning supermount completely off and stopping devfs in my > > lilo.conf file (just a wild guess) and I'm going to retry it to see how > > far it gets. Until then though, does anyone have any suggestions? I'm > > stumped. > > > > Thanks, Mike > > Mike, is that the demo or the full game? > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ut2003
OH MY GOSH I finally got it! I can't believe the hoops I had to jump through to get it working. The box I installed it on is running the smp kernel which *may* have made a difference (but shouldn't have), I disabled supermount and devfs, I wasn't able to run the installer from within 'X', it had to be done from the command line, and finally, I had to run the installer like so: ./linux_installer.sh instead of sh linux_installer.sh or it would complain about glibc 2.1 and exit the install. There was NO documentation on the box nor within and very little on the web - for being commercial software, I think epic could have done quite a bit better than that... 3 DAYS to install that game!!! Thanks for the suggestions, Mike On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Francisco Alcaraz Ariza wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:36:39 +0100 > From: Francisco Alcaraz Ariza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] ut2003 > > I have the whole ut2003 runing fine in my Mandrake 9.0 with Geforce4 Pentium > III. I had to dissable the buggy supermount, open two konsole, put the third > cd-rom in the second cd-drive and I used the other console to mount the next > cds in the first cd-driver. > > If you need more help I could explain it you in more detail. > > > El Jue 16 Ene 2003 03:00, Ronald J. Hall escribió: > > On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:54 am, Michael Holt wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > Has anyone installed ut2003? I'm stumped - I've just spent the last two > > > days trying to install but after about 6 or 7 hours, it goes into this > > > loop where it keeps creating the same folder within it self ( it creates > > > a folder called "scorched earth" and populates it with some files then > > > under that directory it creates "scorched earth" then populates it with > > > the same files as the last and keeps on going like that until I hit ^c to > > > stop it) I've tried turning supermount completely off and stopping devfs > > > in my lilo.conf file (just a wild guess) and I'm going to retry it to see > > > how far it gets. Until then though, does anyone have any suggestions? > > > I'm stumped. > > > > > > Thanks, Mike > > > > Mike, is that the demo or the full game? > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] What it's like trying to update 9.0 over a modem...
What it's like trying to update 9.0 over a modem... or why I complain about issues that will cause potential users to not adopt Mdk... :^( Summary: poor/little error recovery in MU -- I'm stuck; my system won't get update descriptions at the moment. According to MU, my laptop was completely up-to-date just before the latest batch of arts & KDE updates. Being away from my DSL line with only 50Kb access, I waited to run this batch of updates overnight... This morning, I woke up to this dialog box: Conflicts were detected kdegraphics = 3.0.3-11.1mdk is needed by kdegraphics-devel-3.0.3-11.1mdk kdegraphics = 3.0.3-11.1mdk is needed by kdegraphics-devel-3.0.3-11.1mdk Install aborted. [ OK ] This is in my logs: Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/arts-1.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdeadmin-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdebase-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdebase-devel-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdebase-nsplugins-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdegames-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdegraphics-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdegraphics-devel-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdelibs-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdelibs-devel-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdemultimedia-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdemultimedia-devel-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdenetwork-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdenetwork-devel-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdepim-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdesdk-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdetoys-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/kdeutils-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/libarts-1.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/libldap2-2.0.25-7.1mdk.i586.rpm Jan 15 22:40:05 gypsy MandrakeUpdate[32221]: Installing package ftp://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ 9.0/RPMS/openldap-2.0.25-7.1mdk.i586.rpm and MU still shows all packages still to be installed!! # rpm -e kdegraphics-devel-3.0.3-11.1mdk # Re-selected everything, pressed install, and grpmi is RE-DOWNLOADing EVERYTHING at 50Kb!!So WHAT do the above "Installing package" messages in the log REALLY mean Now, on the third package (kdemultimedia-3.0.5a-1.1mdk.i586.rpm) I get: There was an error downloading package: ftp://fpt-linux.cc.gatech.edu/pub...rpm Error: Partial file Do you want to continue (skipp
Re: [expert] What's changing my files?
The file to mod is in /etc/msec Not sure which one but it should be obvious... My personal solution is the same as Todd's rpm -e msec. *grin* James On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 16:53, Nathan Clemons wrote: > I seem to recall that one of the msec levels actually does keep a list of > files and file permissions and changes things to match... which can be a > bit annoying :) > > I believe it was the last time I used Paranoid on a home system. > > --Nathan > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Derek Simkowiak wrote: > > > > > I have installed an RPM. It creates a file /usr/sbin/exim that is > > SUID, which is the way it needs to be. > > > > But after a while that file eventually loses its SUID bit, > > automatically. (Figuring out WTF was happening was quite a frustrating > > experience, if I may say.) > > > > So, what program is doing this? The only one I can think of is > > msec, but I cannot find any documentation about msec saying that it will > > change file permissions; I only find documentation saying that it will > > report certain files as being SUID. > > > > I do not have X windows on this box, so I need to know what text > > configuration file to change. At the least, I'd like to know what program > > does this. > > > > > > Thank You, > > Derek Simkowiak > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] What's changing my files?
I seem to recall that one of the msec levels actually does keep a list of files and file permissions and changes things to match... which can be a bit annoying :) I believe it was the last time I used Paranoid on a home system. --Nathan On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Derek Simkowiak wrote: > > I have installed an RPM. It creates a file /usr/sbin/exim that is > SUID, which is the way it needs to be. > > But after a while that file eventually loses its SUID bit, > automatically. (Figuring out WTF was happening was quite a frustrating > experience, if I may say.) > > So, what program is doing this? The only one I can think of is > msec, but I cannot find any documentation about msec saying that it will > change file permissions; I only find documentation saying that it will > report certain files as being SUID. > > I do not have X windows on this box, so I need to know what text > configuration file to change. At the least, I'd like to know what program > does this. > > > Thank You, > Derek Simkowiak > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] What's changing my files?
I have installed an RPM. It creates a file /usr/sbin/exim that is SUID, which is the way it needs to be. But after a while that file eventually loses its SUID bit, automatically. (Figuring out WTF was happening was quite a frustrating experience, if I may say.) So, what program is doing this? The only one I can think of is msec, but I cannot find any documentation about msec saying that it will change file permissions; I only find documentation saying that it will report certain files as being SUID. I do not have X windows on this box, so I need to know what text configuration file to change. At the least, I'd like to know what program does this. Thank You, Derek Simkowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake8.2 KDE3.04 startkde issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Naish wrote on Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 01:33:08AM +0100 : > > by a script called kde.sh in > /etc/profile.d/ > The thing is I cant find what calls this kde3.sh to futs the $PATH of users. - From /etc/profile: for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh ; do if [ -x $i ]; then . $i fi done ie, every time you spawn a new shell. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Mandrake: An amalgam of good ideas from RedHat, Debian, and MandrakeSoft. All in all, IMHO, an unbeatable combination. --Levi Ramsey on Cooker ML Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+J1DJlp7v05cW2woRAg42AJ0ZOujICtYxTBmfNzEA8BFZrd29nACglU4D ZY7HPQAi9XMeosA4n+/Z5HI= =bzf3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake8.2 KDE3.04 startkde issue
OK so I've now figured out what is making this happen. The $PATH of users is being changed into /opt/kde3/bin/:$PATH by a script called kde.sh in /etc/profile.d/ Before any choice of WM/Desktop has been made by the user. This means of course that all the KDE3 apps get called before the KDE ones. So on calling startkde you get KDE2 scripts running KDE3 apps. This is cos the startkde call is explicitly /usr/bin/startkde which starts KDE2. The thing is I cant find what calls this kde3.sh to futs the $PATH of users. Any one know? Cheers Si -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MNF vs SNF
On Thu Jan 16, 2003 at 02:45:22PM -0800, T E wrote:
> > The online docs should be available RSN.
>
> Can't wait!! Any idea of the time frame we're looking
> at?
No clue, but I don't think it should take too long... maybe within a
week (or two?) I don't want to make promises since I'm not the one
doing it... =)
> http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/72/SNF/en/user.html/
> >
> > I wouldn't use this as a basis for MNF. SNF is an
> > entirely different
> > creature... for one, it's based on ipchains and 2.2
> > kernel, not
> > iptables and 2.4 kernel. Right there you have two
> > extremely different
> > implementations. The function is similar, as is the
> > name... that's
> > about it. =)
>
> Thanks! you saved me a few hours of unneeded
> studying...
You're welcome.
> > > Cookies Not Found
> > >
> > > I've noticed I'm not the only one having this
> > problem
> > > and I chimed in on that fact at
> > alt.os.linux.mandrake
> > > ...you guys have any ideas on this one?
> >
> > Could be that you're using IE... IIRC, this is a
> > problem there. Also,
> > there is a timeout, so if you idle for too long,
> > you'll be booted. Not
> > sure how long the timeout is tho (one could probably
> > log in and examine
> > the cookies for an expiry date to see how long they
> > remain alive for).
>
> Well, I highly doubt that it has to do with timeout
> since Logout/in happends within 1 minute. But, yes, I
> am using IE. I'm assuming a fix is in the works? I
> would hope so since IE is unfortunately very common...
> Plus, it would allow for the easy introduction of
> Linux into a windows enviornment =)
Ah yes.. then it's IE. Unfortunately, I don't know if there is a fix
or what the fix might be other than using a different browser. Mozilla
works good... unsure of other browsers, although I suspect Netscape and
other browsers based on Mozilla will work as well. Dunno about others
like Opera and such.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I know the
> > name is a bit of a
> > misnomer, since it's for the discussion of both SNF
> > and MNF. I'll be
> > changing the name of the list to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] soon.
>
> Excellent, I guess this is where I will be moving my
> future discussions...
=)
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Re: [expert] Multiple CDROM drive recognition problem
On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:17 am, Joseph Feigon wrote: > As a long time Mandrake user, I am continually pleased > with the contributions to Expert, and have had > numerous questions answered by the talent and resource > of everyone's contributions. > > I am experiencing a minor challenge with an 8.2 > production workstation. I am running a stock > 2.4.19-16mdksmp on a Dell Precision 410, loaded with > multiple SCSI drives, video capture, and a single IDE > interface. When I added a SCSI CDRW drive to the > system, the IDE CDROM was no longer recognized on > boot, and I haven't been able to figure out how to > configure it. Ripping and Burning is so much faster > with two separate drives, and the fact that one is > sitting idle, is quite frustrating. Before the > addition of the SCSI CDRW, /dev/cdrom pointed to the > IDE connected CDROM. > Character devices: > 1 mem > 2 pty/m%d > 3 pty/s%d > 4 tts/%d > 5 cua/%d > 6 lp > 7 vcs > 10 misc > 14 sound > 21 sg > 29 fb > 81 video_capture > 128 ptm > 136 pts/%d > 162 raw > > Block devices: > 1 ramdisk > 2 fd > 8 sd > 9 md > 11 sr > 65 sd > 66 sd > > And under /dev, cdrom is setup as follows: > cdrom -> cdroms/cdrom0 > where cdrom0 -> ../scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd. > > So, how do I make use of the IDE CDROM? There are no > entries in the /dev directory pointing to any /dev/h*, > as the entire system is SCSI, sans the IDE based > CDROM. > > Thanks in advance for the help! > > Joseph > > It is unclear from your description if the IDE is a CDRW or a simple IDE. In the first case, the system would use ide-scsi to recognize it as a scsi device because cdrecord looks only at scsi devices. Actually from time to time there is a debate about defaulting to ide-scsi for all CD/dvd devices, but there are always a few cheaply made dvds which won't work under scsi emulation. But for your purposes since it isn't a cheap DVD, this solution is probably preferable: OK find out from yout boot screen where that furshlugginer IDE device is. For demo purposes I assume it is /dev/hda Go to Mandrake Control Center -> Boot -> Boot configuration and put hda=ide-scsi in your append line (for all linux boots except failsafe) YES THIS WORKS FOR ORDINARY CD drives as well as CDRWs. now boot and open a terminal su to root # cdrecord --scanbus should tell you where it is You may need to make up /dev entries for it and a line in /etc/fstab You already have a model to follow in the cdrom0 entry Civileme > > > > > > > = > Joseph Feigon > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Bind 9.2.1 from Mandrake 9.0
I've set up BIND in a chroot before, but what surprises me is now that I have the files set up, the only thing that it complained about when I started it up was /dev/random missing (which was a quick mknod). This is the structure I have at the moment: /var/named /var/named/dev /var/named/dev/random /var/named/etc /var/named/etc/localtime /var/named/etc/named.conf /var/named/etc/rndc.conf /var/named/etc/rndc.key /var/named/var /var/named/var/run /var/named/var/run/named /var/named/var/run/named/named.pid /var/named/namedb /var/named/namedb/named.ca /var/named/namedb/named.local LSOF seems to indicate that it's mapping the libraries from outside the chroot jail. Isn't it not supposed to do that? I was expecting it to complain about the libraries, and if Mandrake just had the example directory structure and nothing more, to use ldd to find what libraries I needed to copy over, make an ld.so.conf and use ldconfig to make an ld.so.cache... Slightly confused :) What I have on another system (running 8.2) is: /var/named /var/named/bin /var/named/bin/ldconfig /var/named/dev /var/named/dev/log /var/named/dev/null /var/named/dev/random /var/named/etc /var/named/etc/group /var/named/etc/rndc.key /var/named/etc/passwd /var/named/etc/localtime /var/named/etc/rndc.conf /var/named/etc/ld.so.conf /var/named/etc/ld.so.cache /var/named/lib /var/named/lib/libpthread-0.9.so /var/named/lib/libnsl.so.1 /var/named/lib/ld-2.2.4.so /var/named/lib/libc-2.2.4.so /var/named/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /var/named/lib/libdl.so.2 /var/named/lib/libdl-2.2.4.so /var/named/lib/libpthread.so.0 /var/named/lib/libc.so.6 /var/named/lib/libnsl-2.2.4.so /var/named/var /var/named/var/run /var/named/var/run/named.pid /var/named/var/lock /var/named/var/lock/subsys /var/named/var/lock/subsys/named /var/named/usr /var/named/usr/lib /var/named/usr/lib/libcrypto.so /var/named/usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0 /var/named/usr/sbin /var/named/usr/sbin/rndc /var/named/usr/sbin/named /var/named/namedb /var/named/namedb/named.conf --Nathan On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: > This should help. go to > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html/ > > and grab Chroot-BIND-HOWTO-html.tar.gz ... > > James > > > On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 14:43, Nathan Clemons wrote: > > In /usr/share/doc/bind-9.2.1, there's a chroot directory which has > > everything directory-wise for a chroot config. > > > > Is there an FAQ of the other steps needed to finalize the chroot config? > > Ie., libraries that need to get copied, etc? > > > > --Nathan Clemons > > > > > > __ > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Bind 9.2.1 from Mandrake 9.0
This should help. go to http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html/ and grab Chroot-BIND-HOWTO-html.tar.gz ... James On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 14:43, Nathan Clemons wrote: > In /usr/share/doc/bind-9.2.1, there's a chroot directory which has > everything directory-wise for a chroot config. > > Is there an FAQ of the other steps needed to finalize the chroot config? > Ie., libraries that need to get copied, etc? > > --Nathan Clemons > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Bind 9.2.1 from Mandrake 9.0
In /usr/share/doc/bind-9.2.1, there's a chroot directory which has everything directory-wise for a chroot config. Is there an FAQ of the other steps needed to finalize the chroot config? Ie., libraries that need to get copied, etc? --Nathan Clemons Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] gnome-toaster and ogg files
i can encode mp3 files on the fly and burn but i can't with .ogg there is way to do it in the site there is an rpm but maybe it works only for mdk 8.0 oggtst-1.0beta1-1mdk.i686.rpm some tip? thanks francesco Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Spam Filtering with postfix
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:26:58 -0800 Ric Tibbetts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I've been using the logs you referenced. They're coming out in > /var/log/mail/info. It references all the mail. I weed through it, and, > like you, use the info to stop good mail from getting filtered, and > catching the bad stuff that sneaks through. Eventually, it should go > into low maintenance mode. But since it's new, I'm watching it very > closely. Over time it becomes a simple "there's that jerk again", or "another A**hole that needs 'drop 25|all'...", etc... 2nd nature in no time, then it slows down... I hardly get any spam nowawadays and my only tools are postfix and iptables for the obnoxious -- I've been thinking about automating much of what I've learned -- just gotta find time... > I'm really pleased that postfix has the ability to do this. It's a great > feature, that I didn't know existed. I've been using for quite some time and prefer to stop spam before it gets in than have it waste my resources and filter later. > One thing I did change from the bit posted above: > I took out "reject_unknown_hostname". It was rejecting way too much > mail! Even a lot of good mail. Seems that a lot of mail originates from > within an intranet where the hostname is not known to the internet at > large. Removing that, only allowed a small amount of spam to leak > through, and I've been able to either filter that locally, or report it, > so it's not a big deal. Actually, the "unknown" host that gets rejected is the one that establishes the connection with yours... doesn't matter where it originated or how many intervening hosts. Most of these are just DNS problems or the mailhost claiming to be foo.abc.com while their DNS claims it's bar.abc.com -- a quick e-mail to the postmaster often clears it up -- the worst offenders that just won't fix their problems are usually the largest organizations... > I just re-read your message, and checked my main.cf. YOu're talking > about it actively mailing you for each rejection? Yup... I get just a few of those a day -- sending you copy of yesterday's summary report offline. > I've added that stanza, we'll see what happens. Right now, I'm just > relying on the logs. > > Thanks for the note, and the web site! It helped. Gotta find time to update my pages... > Ric HTH, Pierre PS: Let me know what you've added -- I'm not averse to learning more... :^) PPS: Postfix 2 is available; but I've only had a quick peek at it -- some interesting changes that should help even more... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MNF vs SNF
comments below =)
--- Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu Jan 16, 2003 at 07:04:10AM -0800, T E wrote:
>
> > Er sorry Vincent if I confused you. I guess I
> have
> > been misunderstanding this whole Chapter 11
> ordeal...
> > I was under the false impression that Mandrake was
> > disappearing.
>
> Oh no... we don't plan on going anywhere... =)
>
> > Lorne, I know what you mean about docs!! Has any
> one
> > else out there found a suitable doc or must we
> infact
> > shell out the $2,000? I did however find this for
> SNF
> > so maybe it's close enough:
>
> The online docs should be available RSN.
>
Can't wait!! Any idea of the time frame we're looking
at?
>
> >
>
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/72/SNF/en/user.html/
>
> I wouldn't use this as a basis for MNF. SNF is an
> entirely different
> creature... for one, it's based on ipchains and 2.2
> kernel, not
> iptables and 2.4 kernel. Right there you have two
> extremely different
> implementations. The function is similar, as is the
> name... that's
> about it. =)
>
Thanks! you saved me a few hours of unneeded
studying...
>
> > BTW, how has your implementation of MNF been
> coming?
> > Still "kicking your butt"?
>
> I've found MNF to be fairly straightforward... I am
> having a few
> issues with configuring it, but for the most part it
> was amazingly
> straightforward. That being said, I'd still like to
> get port
> forwarding working the way I want it to... =)
>
> > I seem to have run into a weird problem after I
> try to
> > configure MNF: I will log out then attempt to log
> back
> > in (naturally thru the web interface) and I
> receive a
> > return to the login screen with an error. This
> error
> > is as follows:
> >
> > Cookies Not Found
> >
> > I've noticed I'm not the only one having this
> problem
> > and I chimed in on that fact at
> alt.os.linux.mandrake
> > ...you guys have any ideas on this one?
>
> Could be that you're using IE... IIRC, this is a
> problem there. Also,
> there is a timeout, so if you idle for too long,
> you'll be booted. Not
> sure how long the timeout is tho (one could probably
> log in and examine
> the cookies for an expiry date to see how long they
> remain alive for).
>
Well, I highly doubt that it has to do with timeout
since Logout/in happends within 1 minute. But, yes, I
am using IE. I'm assuming a fix is in the works? I
would hope so since IE is unfortunately very common...
Plus, it would allow for the easy introduction of
Linux into a windows enviornment =)
>
> > In closing, I think we need to get more dialog
> going
> > on this product. It appears to have massive
> > potential, yet little recognition, wouldn't you
> agree?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I know the
> name is a bit of a
> misnomer, since it's for the discussion of both SNF
> and MNF. I'll be
> changing the name of the list to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] soon.
>
Excellent, I guess this is where I will be moving my
future discussions...
>
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Re: [expert] Zip Drives...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good afternoon, Ronald... On Thursday 16 January 2003 02:27 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > I'm going to send my /etc/fstab zip entry - I'm using v9.0 of Mandrake and > its SCSI emulated: > > /dev/sda4 /mnt/zipauto > codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,user,nodev0 0 > > All one line, of course... Yup. Unless one wants a broken /etc/fstab file. 8-) > Even if I was still running it as pure ATAPI, the only change I think is > that /dev/sda4 would show up as /dev/hdb4 on my setup. > > Hope this helps! It does! I wrote a mini-HOWTO and posted it just minutes before. If you see anything on it that doesn't pass muster, just nod your head and throw something. Dave - -- Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Used Kharma Lot / The Phoenix Project Web Page: http://www.kharma.net updated 01/02/2003 Music Calendar & Website: http://www.kharma.net/calendar.html Usenet news server : news://news.kharma.net An automatic & random thought For the Minute: YOW!! Now I understand advanced MICROBIOLOGY and th' new TAX REFORM laws!! The person who marries for money usually earns every penny of it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+JzZGaE1ENZP1A28RAtW4AJ46suQ18lWorT1vRWZG2+mulV2vWQCeL3la Tic35aeqfSArDuAKEsfVP2o= =TKEm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake8.2 and KDE3.04
I've just tried adding KDE3.04 to my Mandrake 8.2 installation and have a bit of a problem. Managed to install everything ok, its all gone into the /opt directory. Managed to sort all the dependencies out. My problem is that the KDE choice of Windowmanager gives KDE3.04, as does the KDE3 choice. Except for route. Route gets KDE2 for the KDE windowmanager choice and KDE3.04 for the KDE3 windowmanager choice as it should. This is alot more than just a pain in the backside, as its corrupted everthing in there. Does anyone have a clue as to where I should look and what to change, presumably its to do with the startup scripts in /etc but I cant find the start script that is used by kdm. Any help would be gratefully received. I just want everything working like root does. Is it a permissions thing?? Cheers loads Si -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Preliminary HOWTO... Zip Disks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good afternoon, everyone... Once I ignored the instructions from Iomega (and consequently from Mandrake) and simply began treating an Iomega Zip Disk drive as I would any other drive with removable media, the process of formatting and using a Zip Disk (with the user and group ID's set to where anyone on the local network is given access) the rest of it is a piece of cake, with only one possible exception. Here is a bit of mini-documentation I just wrote on the fly to explain how this works, if you're having problems. GIVEN: Your Iomega Zip Disk is recognized by your hardware BIOS as an ATAPI drive, i.e., it is not a parallel Iomega Zip Disk, and (thanks to Dan) make certain it is the Master on the Secondary IDE chain, not the Slave). The quickest easiest way to detect that you are set up properly from a hardware standpoint is that it will appear during a normal boot-up in the BIOS statement on the screen as an ATAPI device and be thus recognized as an Iomega Zip Disk. Woe to ye who try to enter from any other gate, because hell is your destination. I have managed to get parallel Zip Disks working under Red Hat, but have repeatedly been defied by the same attempts under Mandrake 8.2 and upward. Go figure. ;-) Once you have your Zip drive established in the BIOS, you have but one other hurdle to pass-- mounting the drive. [HINT] If you look in the /dev directory, you should see an entry for it. Mine happens to be /dev/hdd because I have two hard disks already mounted and a SCSI Jazz drive to boot. Yours may differ. If you're really lucky and Santa is your friend, you may even find it already mounted as a Zip drive, but I've never seen it happen. After you have typed "mount /dev/xxx /zip" or something to that effect, type "mount" and see how Linux *thinks* the drive is formatted, because I have encountered several instances where the drive is falsely detected as having a vfat format, which sometimes is the mount default, even though the disk is actually formatted as ext2. If that happens, umount the drive and t ype mount - -t ext2(3) /dev/hdd /zip (or whatever) if you're *certain* the drive is formatted as ext2/3. Otherwise format it, making certain it is *not* mounted thus: mke2fs /dev/xxx with xxx being the file in the /dev directory which points to your zip disk. Then mount the drive again. You're halfway home already. Now comes the truly *ugly* part. Chmod the directory for your zip disk to your personal best choice, remembering to also chown it to your user name. Otherwise you won't be able to write files to it, the problem I was encountering. Incredibly enough, you can't perform that last step with the disk formatted as vfat. In fact, you can't even share the drive under Samba as vfat, so ext(x) is your friend. You do this thus: chown username:username /zip and chmod 770 /zip Presto! Anyone inside the network can use it. One good substitution is to share the drive through Samba, using a username and password to authenticate who is connecting to the drive. It's *way* better than the example I just gave, but I *trust* my firewall. 8-) Now, having unzipped my brain box in front of the entire world, let's see what, if anything, I've missed in my mini-documentation regarding Zip Disks. Dave - -- Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Used Kharma Lot / The Phoenix Project Web Page: http://www.kharma.net updated 01/02/2003 Music Calendar & Website: http://www.kharma.net/calendar.html Usenet news server : news://news.kharma.net An automatic & random thought For the Minute: The grass is always greener on the other side of your sunglasses. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+JzWyaE1ENZP1A28RAtb2AJ4jV6qnGHXQLzm4FM0hM7J5kHfxhQCgj7YI bIONiWkfwmxM0bTGsrbFgqY= =0PT+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Zip Drives...
On Thursday 16 January 2003 04:53 pm, Dave Laird wrote: > Good afternoon, everyone... > > Has anyone written a succinct HOWTO for ironing the kinks out of an > installed Iomega Zip Disk installed as an ATAPI drive? The BIOS recognizes > the zip disk, but when it gets installed by HardDrake, it comes up only as > useable by root. I *love* using Zip Disks for a variety of reasons, and if > I could do so, I'd simply make the Zip Disk shared by everyone on the > internal network. There are a couple of good sources out there - have you tried Mandrakeuser? Or going to google and searching for "linux howto list"? There is one page, or more dedicated to nothing but lists for Linux... > BTW, there is also a SCSI Jazz Drive already on the system which is not > root-only. I wondered if that might have some possible relationship. I'm not sure. > Dave I'm going to send my /etc/fstab zip entry - I'm using v9.0 of Mandrake and its SCSI emulated: /dev/sda4 /mnt/zipauto codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,noauto,nosuid,umask=0,user,nodev 0 0 All one line, of course... Even if I was still running it as pure ATAPI, the only change I think is that /dev/sda4 would show up as /dev/hdb4 on my setup. Hope this helps! -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Recognising Linux Burned CDs Under W*v
alan wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Daryl Johnson wrote: OK I give up. CDs seem to be like a foreign country to me. It doesn't matter if I use Gnome-Toaster or X-CD-Roast. Any cd I burn is visible in my linux box but once it is inserted into one of the Windoze machines (W2K, W98, NT4) I just get a message 'please insert cd'. Bugger damn and hell it must be something simple but what? Weird. What format are you telling it to burn under XCDRoast? Make sure Joliett is enabled. (Actually a combination Joliett and rockridge works the best for a wide range of systems in my experience.) But even without joliet the cd should be readable under windows, albeit with short (8.3) file names. -- Luca Olivetti Note.- This message reached you today, it may not tomorrow if you are using MAPS or other RBL. They arbitrarily IP addresses not related in any way to spam, disrupting Internet connectivity. See http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/05/21/1944247 and http://theory.whirlycott.com/~phil/antispam/rbl-bad/rbl-bad.html msg64460/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] Zip Drives...
On Thursday 16 January 2003 02:53 pm, Dave Laird wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Good afternoon, everyone... > > Has anyone written a succinct HOWTO for ironing the kinks out of an > installed Iomega Zip Disk installed as an ATAPI drive? The BIOS recognizes > the zip disk, but when it gets installed by HardDrake, it comes up only as > useable by root. I *love* using Zip Disks for a variety of reasons, and if > I could do so, I'd simply make the Zip Disk shared by everyone on the > internal network. > > BTW, there is also a SCSI Jazz Drive already on the system which is not > root-only. I wondered if that might have some possible relationship. > > Dave > - -- > Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > The Used Kharma Lot / The Phoenix Project > Web Page: http://www.kharma.net updated 01/02/2003 > Music Calendar & Website: http://www.kharma.net/calendar.html > Usenet news server : news://news.kharma.net > > An automatic & random thought For the Minute: > You will be imprisoned for contributing your time and skill to a bank > robbery. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+JynIaE1ENZP1A28RAt1AAKCIFzTuN9sZiMm0qT/7EjEOnIbbAQCfc+Cs > Z2w8vAaWsqFi9hdcctdh8lw= > =elo/ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- Hi David, I went through hell trying to get my ZIP working under 9.0, too.. What I came up with was to make sure it was master on the second IDE channel and then make a link to /mnt/zip. Ken Thompson 9.1 Beta. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Recognising Linux Burned CDs Under W*v
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Daryl Johnson wrote: > OK I give up. CDs seem to be like a foreign country to me. > > It doesn't matter if I use Gnome-Toaster or X-CD-Roast. Any cd I burn is > visible in my linux box but once it is inserted into one of the Windoze > machines (W2K, W98, NT4) I just get a message 'please insert cd'. > > Bugger damn and hell it must be something simple but what? Weird. What format are you telling it to burn under XCDRoast? Make sure Joliett is enabled. (Actually a combination Joliett and rockridge works the best for a wide range of systems in my experience.) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Recognising Linux Burned CDs Under W*v
OK I give up. CDs seem to be like a foreign country to me. It doesn't matter if I use Gnome-Toaster or X-CD-Roast. Any cd I burn is visible in my linux box but once it is inserted into one of the Windoze machines (W2K, W98, NT4) I just get a message 'please insert cd'. Bugger damn and hell it must be something simple but what? Suggestions on a £50 not to me please :o) Regards Daryl -- Hacker's Law: The belief that enhanced understanding will necessarily stir a nation to action is one of mankind's oldest illusions. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Zip Drives...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good afternoon, everyone... Has anyone written a succinct HOWTO for ironing the kinks out of an installed Iomega Zip Disk installed as an ATAPI drive? The BIOS recognizes the zip disk, but when it gets installed by HardDrake, it comes up only as useable by root. I *love* using Zip Disks for a variety of reasons, and if I could do so, I'd simply make the Zip Disk shared by everyone on the internal network. BTW, there is also a SCSI Jazz Drive already on the system which is not root-only. I wondered if that might have some possible relationship. Dave - -- Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Used Kharma Lot / The Phoenix Project Web Page: http://www.kharma.net updated 01/02/2003 Music Calendar & Website: http://www.kharma.net/calendar.html Usenet news server : news://news.kharma.net An automatic & random thought For the Minute: You will be imprisoned for contributing your time and skill to a bank robbery. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+JynIaE1ENZP1A28RAt1AAKCIFzTuN9sZiMm0qT/7EjEOnIbbAQCfc+Cs Z2w8vAaWsqFi9hdcctdh8lw= =elo/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Multiple CDROM drive recognition problem
As a long time Mandrake user, I am continually pleased with the contributions to Expert, and have had numerous questions answered by the talent and resource of everyone's contributions. I am experiencing a minor challenge with an 8.2 production workstation. I am running a stock 2.4.19-16mdksmp on a Dell Precision 410, loaded with multiple SCSI drives, video capture, and a single IDE interface. When I added a SCSI CDRW drive to the system, the IDE CDROM was no longer recognized on boot, and I haven't been able to figure out how to configure it. Ripping and Burning is so much faster with two separate drives, and the fact that one is sitting idle, is quite frustrating. Before the addition of the SCSI CDRW, /dev/cdrom pointed to the IDE connected CDROM. Character devices: 1 mem 2 pty/m%d 3 pty/s%d 4 tts/%d 5 cua/%d 6 lp 7 vcs 10 misc 14 sound 21 sg 29 fb 81 video_capture 128 ptm 136 pts/%d 162 raw Block devices: 1 ramdisk 2 fd 8 sd 9 md 11 sr 65 sd 66 sd And under /dev, cdrom is setup as follows: cdrom -> cdroms/cdrom0 where cdrom0 -> ../scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd. So, how do I make use of the IDE CDROM? There are no entries in the /dev directory pointing to any /dev/h*, as the entire system is SCSI, sans the IDE based CDROM. Thanks in advance for the help! Joseph = Joseph Feigon __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?
In Canada it is the same as Germany, the equivalent of Chapter 11 is for the benefit of the creditors, not the company. Assets get disposed of to satisfy debt. We are in fact losing the "head office" of many Canadian Co's that move their address to Delaware USA because of the tendancy there to give preference to keeping the company viable. In my defence, my pension plan had some $ in Nortel, so I am automatically concerned over any sign of tech company problems. Sorry for the OT... Ken On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:49 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 00:04 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > Miark: > > > > Excellent post! Kudos to you for that fine response. I can't add much > > to that, except to say that companies like Chrysler have weathered > > bankruptcy protection in the past, and look where they are today. > > Dennis Meyers was pointing this out in a post sometime yesterday. > > In this case, what doesn't kill you will make you stronger. SNIP > > I also regard Miark's response a fine wrap-up of the whole thing. > To you US-Americans and French people such a "bankrupt but still in > business" is common ground and well understood as a positive step > towards a healthy business. SNIP> > (Not only the Germans, there are some other countries where bankruptcy > is the end of a company.) > > wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Spam Filtering with postfix
James; Thanks! It was a bloody victory, but a victory all the same. :) As to the system: Yeah., the rebuild will be in person. Which is why it's going to wait until March when I'll be in Seattle next. I'm not too concerned with the power supply. In this case, the inital damage was cause by a power outage. The rest has just been continued symptoms of that. This last time (yesterday) I suspect was my fault. I was messing with the postfix spam filters, and all he(ck) broke loose. I "bumped" something that I shouldn't have. What was frustrating was that postfix wasn't issuing errors, so I didn't know where to look. So I finally grabbed a bigger hammer. ;0 CPU Fams. Probably a good idea. Right now, it has none. Just fins on both of them, with a case fan, and a duct. They get cooled, but not as well as they could. One problem: The system has 2 CPUs, but the mobo only has one sux power connector. So I'll need to find (make) a "Y" adapter to power two fans (which is why it has fins now...). I may look into some of that while I'm there. It depends on how much time I have. Ric On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 09:41:51AM -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: > Ric, > > If the teardown/rebuild is in person I'd recommend 2 things. > > 1. Check the quality of output from the power supply... with the amount > of data corruptions you've been getting I'd begin to suspect it. > > 2. Just as a matter of course replace the fan on the cpu... I'm > developing the habit of making it an annual thing for my boxes > (personal). > > James > > 3. Congrats on the success!!! > > On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 09:16, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 11:33:51AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: > > > Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > > >Thanks; > > > >I may take a look at that later. Right now, I'd just have to consider it > > > >"yet another piece of software" to keep track of. If I can get an > > > >acceptable result out of postfix, I'm better off. After being down all > > > >day yesterday, I'm not too excited about adding anything to that server. > > > > > > > >Just a little more tweaking, and my filters are doing ok. I still need > > > >to chase the occational spammer that sneakes through, but that's part of > > > >the fun. ;) > > > > > > > >Ric > > > > > > > > > > hey Ric! glad to see you're back in game. It was one hell of a struggle, > > > but you made it! :) good man! > > > > > > -- > > > Mark > > > > > > heh heh.. Thanks Mark! > > It was one of those days that you don't look back on fondly. lottsa hair > > pulling, and cursing going on. ;) > > > > It's all patched up now, and running clean. I'm of course, still > > tweaking the filters, but much more carefully now (one change at a > > time...). > > > > As a side benefit, I got an update for both postfix, and mutt out of the > > deal. ;) > > > > Now.. I just need to tip-toe around that machine until March... Just be > > very nice to it for 6 more weeks... > > Then it's toast. I'm going to tear it down, and rebuild it. It's been > > causing too many problems lately. > > > > Maybe 9.1 will be out by then.. ;) > > > > Ric > > > > > > __ > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] 9.1 beta - More 1st impressions
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 11:58, Robert Goshko wrote: > > > Here's a question you might ba able to answer, I'm trying to install the > > > package kernel-source-2.4.21-pre2.1mdk.i586.rpm, but it needs > > > ncurses-devel, unfortunately, the latest version fo ncurses-devel I can > > > find is ncurses-devel-5.2-12.2mdk.i586.rpm. > > > > ncurses-devel is "provided" by libncurses5-devel as shown by: > > [todd@fiji ~]$ urpmq -p ncurses-devel > > libncurses5-devel > > > > Since it's "provided" by it, if you have your sources configured > > properly, all you should have to do is 'urpmi ncurses-devel' and it will > > install libncurses5-devel (since that is what actually provides that) > > and any dependencies that it needs. > > Thanks for the tip, I will hopefully have some time tonight to "monkey > around" with 9.1b again. Todd, I got the kernel sources installed, after I grabbed the libncurses-devel rpm and installed that. I have now recompiled 9.1b 1, and have ACPI (for may laptops funky ACPI implementation) and my Conexant HSF Modem working. >>WAHOO<< Now I can fully start testing it, looks good so far. -- ...Rob -- "Where the dear and the envelope play." -- Kelsey, age 3 = Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc President Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada http://www.axis-dev.ca/ Supporting the Revolution In Your World = Registered Linux User #260513 GNU/Linux i686 2.4.21-pre2.1mdk-725ca 11:10:00 up 1:32, 4 users, load average: 1.62, 1.40, 1.21 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?
Alan, Yes... you've correctly stated it for the US version. People you owe money to have to halt collection proceedings, the court appoints an overseer to decide who gets paid when etc. Downside is that quite often you now become a cash only business (for the small guy with little in the way of assets.) The up side is that it's considered responsible business (You aren't cheating people out of money, you're just taking longer to pay them.) James On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 06:07, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: > Please, it's to me understand. I believe that here in Brazil we have > something similar to US-Chapter 11. So, this C.11 would be like a > moratorium? Like what is happening to Argentina this moment for example. > > Because, certainly, things don't take place here as in Germany. > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > > The difficulty is to tell it to folks like mine (Germans) who don't > > have that kind of "Chapter 11". Well in a sense we have it too but the > > normal way is: "You can't pay your bills and you don't get investors to > > do that for you? You can't find a larger company to buy you out? > > You're out." The business will be closed and everything will be sold > > to satisfy the creditors. You can start with a new business. > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?
Makes ya wonder why they don't change their name to B-Mart. :-) Miark On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:00:34 -0600 Jim Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > K-Mart seems to file for bankruptcy protection so often that I think it > must be part of their business model! :-) > > They're closing some stores, but I don't see them going out of business > in the near future. > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Something that just might work for Mandrake...
On Thursday 16 January 2003 16:17, Jonathan I. Nori wrote: >snip< > What do the rest of you think? > > Jon 8^) I think the idea is interesting, but personally I wouldn't toddle along with Mandrake in a construction like that. I think we have to get some things in perspective her IMHO: Mandrake is a commercial distribution of gnu/linux built on free software made available by the free software community. If they (mandrake-soft) don't make it, it'll be a shame and a loss but not a disaster. Gnu/linux will go on as before and probably the Mandrake distribution will (the king is dead, long live the king!) too. I think their current business-model is viable as they (mandrakesoft) state themselves. It's the 'old' debts preventing it to take off as it could, BUT: I don't need or want to 'bleed' for wrong decisions made by someone else in the past, on issues I never had any influence on anyway. Over here we say: "If you burn your butt, learn to sit on blisters!". Mandrake is the best distrib around (IMHO again) staying close to the free software community spirit and contributing back to that same community in a wonderful way. I respect and love them for it. I for one am quite prepared to support Mandrake financially(I allready do), or in other ways if need be but I'm not going to become a business asset of any commercial enterprise however sympathetic. Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MNF vs SNF
On Thu Jan 16, 2003 at 07:04:10AM -0800, T E wrote:
> Er sorry Vincent if I confused you. I guess I have
> been misunderstanding this whole Chapter 11 ordeal...
> I was under the false impression that Mandrake was
> disappearing.
Oh no... we don't plan on going anywhere... =)
> Lorne, I know what you mean about docs!! Has any one
> else out there found a suitable doc or must we infact
> shell out the $2,000? I did however find this for SNF
> so maybe it's close enough:
The online docs should be available RSN.
> http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/72/SNF/en/user.html/
I wouldn't use this as a basis for MNF. SNF is an entirely different
creature... for one, it's based on ipchains and 2.2 kernel, not
iptables and 2.4 kernel. Right there you have two extremely different
implementations. The function is similar, as is the name... that's
about it. =)
> BTW, how has your implementation of MNF been coming?
> Still "kicking your butt"?
I've found MNF to be fairly straightforward... I am having a few
issues with configuring it, but for the most part it was amazingly
straightforward. That being said, I'd still like to get port
forwarding working the way I want it to... =)
> I seem to have run into a weird problem after I try to
> configure MNF: I will log out then attempt to log back
> in (naturally thru the web interface) and I receive a
> return to the login screen with an error. This error
> is as follows:
>
> Cookies Not Found
>
> I've noticed I'm not the only one having this problem
> and I chimed in on that fact at alt.os.linux.mandrake
> ...you guys have any ideas on this one?
Could be that you're using IE... IIRC, this is a problem there. Also,
there is a timeout, so if you idle for too long, you'll be booted. Not
sure how long the timeout is tho (one could probably log in and examine
the cookies for an expiry date to see how long they remain alive for).
> In closing, I think we need to get more dialog going
> on this product. It appears to have massive
> potential, yet little recognition, wouldn't you agree?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I know the name is a bit of a
misnomer, since it's for the discussion of both SNF and MNF. I'll be
changing the name of the list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] soon.
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Re: [expert] Spam Filtering with postfix
Ric, If the teardown/rebuild is in person I'd recommend 2 things. 1. Check the quality of output from the power supply... with the amount of data corruptions you've been getting I'd begin to suspect it. 2. Just as a matter of course replace the fan on the cpu... I'm developing the habit of making it an annual thing for my boxes (personal). James 3. Congrats on the success!!! On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 09:16, Ric Tibbetts wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 11:33:51AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: > > Ric Tibbetts wrote: > > >Thanks; > > >I may take a look at that later. Right now, I'd just have to consider it > > >"yet another piece of software" to keep track of. If I can get an > > >acceptable result out of postfix, I'm better off. After being down all > > >day yesterday, I'm not too excited about adding anything to that server. > > > > > >Just a little more tweaking, and my filters are doing ok. I still need > > >to chase the occational spammer that sneakes through, but that's part of > > >the fun. ;) > > > > > >Ric > > > > > > > hey Ric! glad to see you're back in game. It was one hell of a struggle, > > but you made it! :) good man! > > > > -- > > Mark > > > heh heh.. Thanks Mark! > It was one of those days that you don't look back on fondly. lottsa hair > pulling, and cursing going on. ;) > > It's all patched up now, and running clean. I'm of course, still > tweaking the filters, but much more carefully now (one change at a > time...). > > As a side benefit, I got an update for both postfix, and mutt out of the > deal. ;) > > Now.. I just need to tip-toe around that machine until March... Just be > very nice to it for 6 more weeks... > Then it's toast. I'm going to tear it down, and rebuild it. It's been > causing too many problems lately. > > Maybe 9.1 will be out by then.. ;) > > Ric > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] "Removable Media" icon
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 01:45, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 01:04, James Sparenberg wrote: > > HarM, > > > > edit the .icewm/toolbar file and you can put the icons on the > > taskbar. Easy format for example > > > > prog Evolution jmail.png evolution > > > > added Evo to the bar. The icon has to be in /usr/share/icons/mini to > > get grabbed (it uses 16x16 icons) and if it's not there. It lists the > > app name. > > > > James > > Thank you James, > > I knew about the toolbar file but never could get the icons in there. > Now I know why :o) > > For kids (and non-multilinguals) clear icons are very important. HarM, This is exactly why I HAD to get the icons working... a multilingual kid...mine. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Spam Filtering with postfix
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 11:50:32AM -0500, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:57:18 -0500 "Tibbetts, Ric" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mark Weaver wrote: > > > On Tuesday 14 January 2003 09:59 am, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: > > > > > >>All; > > >>Ok, I've had enough spam for one lifetime.. ;) > > >> > > >>I'm trying to get postfix to start filtering spam. It "will". > > >> > > >>What I've added so far is: > > >>(from the relevant section of main.cf) > > >> > > >># > > >># SPAM FILTER SECTION STARTS > > >># > > >># Look more info about spam filtering options at > > >># http://www.postfix.org/uce.html > > >># > > >># Open Relay Database filtering, look more info at > > >># http://www.ordb.org/ > > >># > > >># Comments and improvements are welcome. > > >># > > >>maps_rbl_domains = > > >> blackholes.mail-abuse.org, > > >> relays.ordb.org, > > >> blackholes.wirehub.net, > > >> relays.osirusoft.com, > > >> blackholes.five-ten-sg.com > > >> > > >>disable_vrfy_command = yes > > >>smtpd_helo_required = yes > > >>strict_rfc821_envelopes = yes > > >> > > >>smtpd_recipient_restrictions = > > >> permit_mynetworks, > > >> reject_unauth_destination, > > >> check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/good_recipient.map, > > >> reject_unauth_pipelining, > > >> reject_invalid_hostname, > > >> reject_non_fqdn_hostname, > > >> reject_non_fqdn_sender, > > >> reject_non_fqdn_recipient, > > >> reject_maps_rbl, > > >> reject_unknown_client, > > >> reject_unknown_hostname, > > >> reject_unknown_sender_domain, > > >> reject_unknown_recipient_domain, > > >> permit > > >> > > >>/etc/postfix/good_recipient.map: > > >> > > >>abuse@ > > >>hostmaster@ > > >>postmaster@ > > >>@$mydomain > > >> > > >># --- > > >> > > >>The problem with the above: Now mail has either become incredibly > > > > > > slow, > > > > > >>or nothing is getting through. So I've gone amis somewhere. > > >> > > >>Can anyone shed some llight on this? I want to be sure that all "real" > > >>local receipients still get their mail, but the spam gets filtered. > > >> > > >>Thank you!! > > >> > > >>Ric > > > > > > > > > Hi Ric, > > > > > > Check things out on this site for setting up Postfix. Pierre has > > > really got it > > > going on when it comes to setting up Postfix for doing things > > > correctly. > > > > > > http://pfortin.com/Linux/PostFix/ > > > > > > Mark > > > > Thanks Mark, I'll have a look. > > Currently, my filter seems to be an inverse filter. I'm NOT getting the > > mail I want, but the spam is flowing freely.. lol. > > > > I did notice that Pierre references the same sites I've been using. I've > > > > just got a "bug" in the above (I've already made a few changes to the > > above). And.. you can't catch it all. Some spam is going to get through > > > > no matter what. > > > > Ric > > > Between a day travelling and my wife insisting on absconding with me for > my birthday, I missed all your fun... > > Something that may not be obvious on my pages is that I get a msg from > postfix for *every* mail rejection... while this sounds bad at first > glance, it helps in various ways... I use the info to: > - report some sites to ORDB > - add rejects to postfix > - whitelist some sites that just won't fix their DNS > - completely block some sites via iptables > - etc. > The volume of such reject messages is quite low now... so it was well > worth my time to develop those lists over time... this is config'ed in > main.cf: > # Notifying postmaster > notify_classes = > resource > software > policy > > The most important thing to do when mail stops coming in after making > changes to postfix config files is watch the logs... some config errors > are only noticed when mail actually comes in (generate incoming mail if > you can, or be prepared to wait). > > The stuff on my postfix page is not completely up-to-date; but you can see > my recent configs via the links at the bottom of the page. > > HTH, > Pierre > Greetings Pierre! Yeah, you missed the show yesterday. I was having a record bad day. lol But it turned out well. It's all pieced back together now. I've been using the logs you referenced. They're coming out in /var/log/mail/info. It references all the mail. I weed through it, and, like you, use the info to stop good mail from getting filtered, and catching the bad stuff that sneaks through. Eventually, it should go into low maintenance mode. But since it's new, I'm watching it very closely. I'm really pleased that postfix has the ability to do this. It's a great feature, that I didn't know existed. One thing I did change from the bit posted above: I took out "reject_unknown_hostname". It was rejecting way too much mail! Even a lot of good mail. Seems
Re: [expert] Spam Filtering with postfix
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 11:33:51AM -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: > Ric Tibbetts wrote: > >Thanks; > >I may take a look at that later. Right now, I'd just have to consider it > >"yet another piece of software" to keep track of. If I can get an > >acceptable result out of postfix, I'm better off. After being down all > >day yesterday, I'm not too excited about adding anything to that server. > > > >Just a little more tweaking, and my filters are doing ok. I still need > >to chase the occational spammer that sneakes through, but that's part of > >the fun. ;) > > > >Ric > > > > hey Ric! glad to see you're back in game. It was one hell of a struggle, > but you made it! :) good man! > > -- > Mark heh heh.. Thanks Mark! It was one of those days that you don't look back on fondly. lottsa hair pulling, and cursing going on. ;) It's all patched up now, and running clean. I'm of course, still tweaking the filters, but much more carefully now (one change at a time...). As a side benefit, I got an update for both postfix, and mutt out of the deal. ;) Now.. I just need to tip-toe around that machine until March... Just be very nice to it for 6 more weeks... Then it's toast. I'm going to tear it down, and rebuild it. It's been causing too many problems lately. Maybe 9.1 will be out by then.. ;) Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Spam Filtering with postfix
Ric Tibbetts wrote: Thanks; I may take a look at that later. Right now, I'd just have to consider it "yet another piece of software" to keep track of. If I can get an acceptable result out of postfix, I'm better off. After being down all day yesterday, I'm not too excited about adding anything to that server. Just a little more tweaking, and my filters are doing ok. I still need to chase the occational spammer that sneakes through, but that's part of the fun. ;) Ric hey Ric! glad to see you're back in game. It was one hell of a struggle, but you made it! :) good man! -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 & 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Spam Filtering with postfix
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:57:18 -0500 "Tibbetts, Ric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Weaver wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 January 2003 09:59 am, Tibbetts, Ric wrote: > > > >>All; > >>Ok, I've had enough spam for one lifetime.. ;) > >> > >>I'm trying to get postfix to start filtering spam. It "will". > >> > >>What I've added so far is: > >>(from the relevant section of main.cf) > >> > >># > >># SPAM FILTER SECTION STARTS > >># > >># Look more info about spam filtering options at > >># http://www.postfix.org/uce.html > >># > >># Open Relay Database filtering, look more info at > >># http://www.ordb.org/ > >># > >># Comments and improvements are welcome. > >># > >>maps_rbl_domains = > >> blackholes.mail-abuse.org, > >> relays.ordb.org, > >> blackholes.wirehub.net, > >> relays.osirusoft.com, > >> blackholes.five-ten-sg.com > >> > >>disable_vrfy_command = yes > >>smtpd_helo_required = yes > >>strict_rfc821_envelopes = yes > >> > >>smtpd_recipient_restrictions = > >> permit_mynetworks, > >> reject_unauth_destination, > >> check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/good_recipient.map, > >> reject_unauth_pipelining, > >> reject_invalid_hostname, > >> reject_non_fqdn_hostname, > >> reject_non_fqdn_sender, > >> reject_non_fqdn_recipient, > >> reject_maps_rbl, > >> reject_unknown_client, > >> reject_unknown_hostname, > >> reject_unknown_sender_domain, > >> reject_unknown_recipient_domain, > >> permit > >> > >>/etc/postfix/good_recipient.map: > >> > >>abuse@ > >>hostmaster@ > >>postmaster@ > >>@$mydomain > >> > >># --- > >> > >>The problem with the above: Now mail has either become incredibly > > > > slow, > > > >>or nothing is getting through. So I've gone amis somewhere. > >> > >>Can anyone shed some llight on this? I want to be sure that all "real" > >>local receipients still get their mail, but the spam gets filtered. > >> > >>Thank you!! > >> > >>Ric > > > > > > Hi Ric, > > > > Check things out on this site for setting up Postfix. Pierre has > > really got it > > going on when it comes to setting up Postfix for doing things > > correctly. > > > > http://pfortin.com/Linux/PostFix/ > > > > Mark > > Thanks Mark, I'll have a look. > Currently, my filter seems to be an inverse filter. I'm NOT getting the > mail I want, but the spam is flowing freely.. lol. > > I did notice that Pierre references the same sites I've been using. I've > > just got a "bug" in the above (I've already made a few changes to the > above). And.. you can't catch it all. Some spam is going to get through > > no matter what. > > Ric Between a day travelling and my wife insisting on absconding with me for my birthday, I missed all your fun... Something that may not be obvious on my pages is that I get a msg from postfix for *every* mail rejection... while this sounds bad at first glance, it helps in various ways... I use the info to: - report some sites to ORDB - add rejects to postfix - whitelist some sites that just won't fix their DNS - completely block some sites via iptables - etc. The volume of such reject messages is quite low now... so it was well worth my time to develop those lists over time... this is config'ed in main.cf: # Notifying postmaster notify_classes = resource software policy The most important thing to do when mail stops coming in after making changes to postfix config files is watch the logs... some config errors are only noticed when mail actually comes in (generate incoming mail if you can, or be prepared to wait). The stuff on my postfix page is not completely up-to-date; but you can see my recent configs via the links at the bottom of the page. HTH, Pierre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Recognition of Todd Lyons
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Wednesday 15 January 2003 01:56 pm, Ken Thompson wrote: I'd like to add my Nickles worth also. I Cast a vote to keep Todd onboard. Thanks for all your help Todd. Absolutely. Count my vote as well! :-) Count me as well. I have a feeling thoug that we haven't heard the last of MandrakeSoft. Not by a long shot. times may get real tough for a time, bu they're not going anywhere. -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 & 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] It's up!
Ric Tibbetts wrote: My mail server is back up. To fix it, I totally uninstalled postfix, and mutt (had to uninstall mutt to satisfy a dependency). Then I cleaned out /etc/postfix, and did a clean install, then laid my config files back in. It's up now (in fact, I 'm sending this on it). I still have no clear idea what went awry. Only that postfix became irretrievably corrupt. I'm going to go plug in my X-Box now, and blow things up! Again, to all who assisted today, and a special thanks to Mark Weaver for hanging in with me all day: THANK YOU!!! This is the greatest list in the world! Ric you're very welcome! that is way awesome. the relief of victory and knowing a job well done. -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 & 9.0 ICQ# 27816299 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Something that just might work for Mandrake...
Hi all! Here's a small plan that could help Mandrake get out of some of its financial woes and possibly help to make Mandrake an even larger force in the Linux community and help Linux in general (but Mandrake specifically) to make some serious inroads into the business desktop market. This idea is is just that--an idea--and would probably take some serious work on the part of Mandrake and their contributors to make it a reality, as well as some serious corporate politics, to make it a reality. By now I'm sure all of you have heard of Grid Computing, the new plan to turn processor cycles into a commodity resource that can be resold. Grid ideology borrows heavily from Open Source ideology, namely, that each individual works to enhance the whole. Part of the Grid ideology is that of shared resources--each processor only does a small amount of work, but added together multiple processors can create an entire working application/processing platform. IBM has already announced the beginnings of their Grid network. HP has just released a set of Grid toolkits for creating Grid applications. There is an important item missing in all these systems, though, and that is the Grid itself: the computers that will act as the distributed Grid computing platform. IBM has the beginnings of a small one, a series of Unix Mainframes networked together into a small cluster. What I believe Mandrake may be able to do is to work with HP, IBM, Sun, or even SGI to help them build their Grid networks. HP can provide the toolkits and the coproate clout while Mandrake can provide the client-side Grid processing. In essence, HP would be like an electric company and Mandrake would be like the actual power plant that the electric company buys power from. This is where we, as Mandrake users, come in. If Mandrake is able to find a partner like this, it will be the *users* whose spare cycles will be going to the Grid. Mandrake provides us with an excellent OS and fantastic support, but how many of us have actually paid for anything that we have gotten from Mandrake? I think that continuing to release Mandrake Linux as a free download, but requiring the use of the built-in Grid Computing Client, would be more than a fair trade. Those of us who actually purchased Mandrake Linux could then have the option of turning the Grid Client off. HP or Sun provide the corporate cover, sales force, and network access like an electric company. Mandrake supplies the raw power to run the system (through those of us who run Mandrake Linux with the Grid Client on) much like an electric power plant. What do the rest of you think? Jon 8^) - Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountain, like wind in the meadow; The days have gone down in the West, behind the hills into shadow. How did it come to this? -- Theoden King, The Two Towers Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MNF vs SNF
Er sorry Vincent if I confused you. I guess I have been misunderstanding this whole Chapter 11 ordeal... I was under the false impression that Mandrake was disappearing. Lorne, I know what you mean about docs!! Has any one else out there found a suitable doc or must we infact shell out the $2,000? I did however find this for SNF so maybe it's close enough: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/72/SNF/en/user.html/ BTW, how has your implementation of MNF been coming? Still "kicking your butt"? I seem to have run into a weird problem after I try to configure MNF: I will log out then attempt to log back in (naturally thru the web interface) and I receive a return to the login screen with an error. This error is as follows: Cookies Not Found I've noticed I'm not the only one having this problem and I chimed in on that fact at alt.os.linux.mandrake ...you guys have any ideas on this one? In closing, I think we need to get more dialog going on this product. It appears to have massive potential, yet little recognition, wouldn't you agree? --- Lorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 02:32 am, JP wrote: > > T E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> deeg zun bes op schoal um > hej te kinne schrieve: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > I highly recommend the newer one. I don't > believe > > > > there is any time bomb, and > > > > I'm not sure if they require money after 6 > months, > > > > although it is certainly > > > > worth what ever it is they charge. I > subscribe, so > > > > haven't actually purchased > > > > a shrink wrap one. I think they get more money > by > > > > just donating so that is > > > > what I did. > > > > > > Here is part of the reason why I believe there > are > > > only 6 months to register: I log into MNF and am > > > greated with this text: > > > > > > "UPDATES: Don't forget to register your firewall > to > > > receive your free updates for 6 months. These > updates > > > are critical to keep your security product up to > date > > > and to maintain a high security level. These > updates > > > consist of improvements to most features, > security > > > fixes and more." > > > > > > Like I said updates are critical. And while > this > > > product may be worth every one of the 200,000 > pennies > > > spent on it, I need a FREE product since I > basically > > > have a 0 penny budget at the moment. > > > > > > It seems to me that if updates for SNF are free > that > > > may be the way to go. Don't get me wrong, I'd > love to > > > go with MNF, but I can't afford the price at the > > > moment and will need eternal updates. > > > > it seems as if they try to get people to pay for > the mnf updates, however, > > I dont think you will have to do so in order to > get the updates. > > > > first of all, i just checked a mandrake updates > mirror and there is a > > seperate directory for mnf, that one could simply > use (add to urpmi etc.) > > without mandrake even knowing it. > > > > second, this mnf is basically a (heavily modified > and stripped down) > > version of mandrake 8.2. for which updates are > freely available. see also > > snf, which has a similar relationship to 7.2, with > many packages in the > > snf update directory being a simlink to the 7.2 > updates. > > > > all in all a rather unclear situation, as by > reading the mandrake website > > one would think you have to pay for security > updates. > > > > JP > > To make matters even weirder there is no > documentation for it!?!??! It says if > you didn't get documentation with it, to purchase a > copy or something to that > affect. MNF is kicking my butt! > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ut2003
I have the whole ut2003 runing fine in my Mandrake 9.0 with Geforce4 Pentium III. I had to dissable the buggy supermount, open two konsole, put the third cd-rom in the second cd-drive and I used the other console to mount the next cds in the first cd-driver. If you need more help I could explain it you in more detail. El Jue 16 Ene 2003 03:00, Ronald J. Hall escribió: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:54 am, Michael Holt wrote: > > Hey all, > > Has anyone installed ut2003? I'm stumped - I've just spent the last two > > days trying to install but after about 6 or 7 hours, it goes into this > > loop where it keeps creating the same folder within it self ( it creates > > a folder called "scorched earth" and populates it with some files then > > under that directory it creates "scorched earth" then populates it with > > the same files as the last and keeps on going like that until I hit ^c to > > stop it) I've tried turning supermount completely off and stopping devfs > > in my lilo.conf file (just a wild guess) and I'm going to retry it to see > > how far it gets. Until then though, does anyone have any suggestions? > > I'm stumped. > > > > Thanks, Mike > > Mike, is that the demo or the full game? -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia Campus de Espinardo E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Spam Filtering with postfix
Thanks; I may take a look at that later. Right now, I'd just have to consider it "yet another piece of software" to keep track of. If I can get an acceptable result out of postfix, I'm better off. After being down all day yesterday, I'm not too excited about adding anything to that server. Just a little more tweaking, and my filters are doing ok. I still need to chase the occational spammer that sneakes through, but that's part of the fun. ;) Ric On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 10:23:51AM +0300, David Whiting wrote: > Have you taken a look at the Eric Raymond's implementation of a Bayesian > statsistics spam filter (based on an idea by Paul Graham)? This way you > don't have to build up the rules, instead they get built on the > characteristics of good mail versus spam mail. I have heard good reports > about it, but have not (yet) installed it myself. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/bogofilter/ > > Dave > > > > At the moment, I'm still a bit tight on the filters. I'm only getting > > about 25% of the mail from this list! And I'm losing some personal mail. > > I need to work out an "exceptions" list. Like a way to say: > > > > All mail from msn.com, except mail from @msn.com > > > > Should be a way Need to dig. > > > > -- > Dave Whiting > Dar es Salaam, Tanzania > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT network backup solutions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 00:28, Mark Belanger wrote: Can anyone recommend a backup solution for a fairly large(300 node) heterogeneous network. We currently have Solaris, Windows, Linux, SunOS, and DomainOS machines. Arkeia (commercial) and Amanda come to mind. For non-Linux backup servers I've used Veritas' NetBackup. It has clients for most OSes. I'd have to second the recomendation for Veritas Netbackup. Great product. I've used it in both large, and small networks. Another is Tivoli (adsm) from IBM. Also good in mid, to large envirnoments. Neither is free. You'll have to license whichever one you use, but they'll get the job done for you, and that's what counts. I've had this argument with many a director: "Yep, we'll have to pay for the software. And before you tell me no, I'll want you to write down just how much the data we're protecting is worth. That's the real cost of your backup solution." I worked at a large company (whom I'll leave nameless). They wouldn't spring for a decent backup system. They insisted they had no budget. Then the server crashed, taking it's drives with it. The end result was the loss of about 5Gb of data. All of it vital (proposals for government research contracts, the contracts themselves, research data, etc. All of it LOST. There was just no way to recover it. Standing and telling an R&D department that they've just lost all their data is the cost of a backup system. Don't scrimp on this one. I've got the battle scars to back up that statement. Do it right, or stay home. JMHO-YMMV Ric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?
On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 07:49, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > I also regard Miark's response a fine wrap-up of the whole thing. > To you US-Americans and French people such a "bankrupt but still in > business" is common ground and well understood as a positive step > towards a healthy business. > > The difficulty is to tell it to folks like mine (Germans) who don't > have that kind of "Chapter 11". Well in a sense we have it too but the > normal way is: "You can't pay your bills and you don't get investors to > do that for you? You can't find a larger company to buy you out? > You're out." The business will be closed and everything will be sold > to satisfy the creditors. You can start with a new business. Ouch. A very unforgiving system The reasons that bankruptcy protection are done over here are probably manyfold. But one that comes to mind right away is that if you disassociate the organization, you also are dissolving the people infrastructure, which is the REAL TRUE valuable thing about the company. For instance, Mandrake now has a system of programmers and systems personell that work well together, and know each other's habits; a unique plethora of interactive habits that all come together to help produce the result we know as the Mandrake distro. In a forgiving system that allows for mistakes, such a positive system can weather bad times with it's unique virtues intact, allowing those positive virtues of the people infrastructure to grow stronger, and the company to evolve. Companies are not static entities, they are dynamic and continually evolving. A Chapter 11 style protection allows the evolution to continue, instead of truncating it and then having to rebuild a people infrastructure that has a completely different (and perhaps inferior) set of characteristics about it. In my view, people systems are individuals; unique in the same way that individuals themselves are unique. That's why I've always considered it very important that I be a part of the Mandrake club; that is my way of protecting that individuality that is the people infrastructure of Mandrakesoft. This list here is a people system; so is the newbie; so is the cooker. And further, these people systems are all part of the larger Mandrakesoft system. The characteristics of these lists (I believe) reflect on Mandrake system at large; showing those characteristics that are prevalent in the French company. The fact that we are all here shows that we all have characteristics within our unique selves that extrapolate to the larger entity with ease. That's why we all enjoy being on the lists. That's also why we should and mostly do support the company. > Now we have to tell German users that it is a positive move that > MandrakeSoft made and by far not the end of it. > > (Not only the Germans, there are some other countries where bankruptcy > is the end of a company.) > > wobo --LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?
Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: Please, it's to me understand. I believe that here in Brazil we have something similar to US-Chapter 11. So, this C.11 would be like a moratorium? Like what is happening to Argentina this moment for example. Because, certainly, things don't take place here as in Germany. On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: The difficulty is to tell it to folks like mine (Germans) who don't have that kind of "Chapter 11". Well in a sense we have it too but the normal way is: "You can't pay your bills and you don't get investors to do that for you? You can't find a larger company to buy you out? You're out." The business will be closed and everything will be sold to satisfy the creditors. You can start with a new business. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Yes, a kind of. They are under protection of the state, so that they can stop paying their debts. Then a judge is responsible to estimate the viability of the company, and they can renegociate their payments. Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?
Please, it's to me understand. I believe that here in Brazil we have something similar to US-Chapter 11. So, this C.11 would be like a moratorium? Like what is happening to Argentina this moment for example. Because, certainly, things don't take place here as in Germany. On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > The difficulty is to tell it to folks like mine (Germans) who don't > have that kind of "Chapter 11". Well in a sense we have it too but the > normal way is: "You can't pay your bills and you don't get investors to > do that for you? You can't find a larger company to buy you out? > You're out." The business will be closed and everything will be sold > to satisfy the creditors. You can start with a new business. -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] ut2003
On Thursday 16 January 2003 12:54 am, Michael Holt wrote: > Hey all, > Has anyone installed ut2003? I'm stumped - I've just spent the last two > days trying to install but after about 6 or 7 hours, it goes into this > loop where it keeps creating the same folder within it self ( it creates a > folder called "scorched earth" and populates it with some files then under > that directory it creates "scorched earth" then populates it with the same > files as the last and keeps on going like that until I hit ^c to stop it) > I've tried turning supermount completely off and stopping devfs in my > lilo.conf file (just a wild guess) and I'm going to retry it to see how > far it gets. Until then though, does anyone have any suggestions? I'm > stumped. > > Thanks, Mike Mike, is that the demo or the full game? -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] X restart complains about /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc entries
8.2 upgraded to 9.0 gives this in /var/log/messages each time X is restarted... (no, I didn't play with or change any of this in any way). Jan 15 10:02:22 gypsy kdm_config[30322]: Unrecognized key 'AllowShutdown' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:42 Jan 15 10:02:22 gypsy kdm_config[30322]: Unrecognized key 'NoUsers' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:58 Jan 15 10:02:22 gypsy kdm_config[30322]: Unrecognized key 'Users' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:64 Jan 15 10:02:22 gypsy kdm_config[30322]: Unrecognized key 'AllowShutdown' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:74 Jan 15 10:02:22 gypsy kdm_config[30322]: Invalid option value 'All' at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:61 file:///usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc: [X-*-Greeter] 42: AllowShutdown=Root ... 58: NoUsers=adm,alias,amanda,apache,bin,bind,daemon,exim,falken,ftp, games,gdm,gopher,halt,httpd,ident,ingres,kmem,lp,mail,mailnull, man,mta,mysql,named,news,nobody,nscd,operator,pcap,pop,postfix, postgres,qmaild,qmaill,qmailp,qmailq,qmailr,qmails,reboot,root, rpc,rpcuser,rpm,sendmail,shutdown,sympa,sync,tty,uucp,xfs,xten, ... 61: ShowUsers=All ... 64: Users= ... [X-:*-Greeter] 74: AllowShutdown=All ... Pierre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?
K-Mart seems to file for bankruptcy protection so often that I think it must be part of their business model! :-) They're closing some stores, but I don't see them going out of business in the near future. Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 16:30, Miark wrote: Ken, Don't be passive. If you, Ken Hawkins, want Mandrakesoft to prosper, then you Ken Hawkins, should do what you can to see that happen. I'm no suggesting taking out a bank loan to donate to Mandrake, but if you had already planned on renewing your subscription, then you should do so. If you don't, on the other hand, you'll be adding to their financial challenges--challenges that may force Mandrakesoft to let go of great people. I don't know about you, but I'd rather be part of the solution than part of the problem--even if I lose my stupid club membership money. And forget about pointing fingers at management. The current financial woes are the remains of the old management, not the new. Mistakes were made; mistakes were corrected--end of story. The only question now is what we can do to help. Remember Kennedy's, "Ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country."? It's the same thing. Renew your membership. Miark Miark: Excellent post! Kudos to you for that fine response. I can't add much to that, except to say that companies like Chrysler have weathered bankruptcy protection in the past, and look where they are today. Dennis Meyers was pointing this out in a post sometime yesterday. So there are successful companies out there (big ones) that have had the same dilemma as Mandrakesoft has now. And they have grown and prospered as a result. In this case, what doesn't kill you will make you stronger. LX Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 00:04 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > Miark: > > Excellent post! Kudos to you for that fine response. I can't add much > to that, except to say that companies like Chrysler have weathered > bankruptcy protection in the past, and look where they are today. > Dennis Meyers was pointing this out in a post sometime yesterday. > > So there are successful companies out there (big ones) that have had the > same dilemma as Mandrakesoft has now. And they have grown and prospered > as a result. > > In this case, what doesn't kill you will make you stronger. I also regard Miark's response a fine wrap-up of the whole thing. To you US-Americans and French people such a "bankrupt but still in business" is common ground and well understood as a positive step towards a healthy business. The difficulty is to tell it to folks like mine (Germans) who don't have that kind of "Chapter 11". Well in a sense we have it too but the normal way is: "You can't pay your bills and you don't get investors to do that for you? You can't find a larger company to buy you out? You're out." The business will be closed and everything will be sold to satisfy the creditors. You can start with a new business. Now we have to tell German users that it is a positive move that MandrakeSoft made and by far not the end of it. (Not only the Germans, there are some other countries where bankruptcy is the end of a company.) wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] pcmica not starting, wireless lan card and 9.0
I successfully installed mdk 9.0 on a Sony Vaio. I use a Netgear pcmcia card for wireless connection to my AP. For some reason the pccard eth1 timesout at boot up. I suspected a misconfiguration. Therefore, I booted via linux init 1 and did /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start the network and internet services (via DHCP services) start without a problem. I made sure of the following: chkconfig --level 345 pcmcia on and then rebooted and still the pccard (eth1) times out in acquiring a dynamic ip via my DHCP server. It seems that the pcmcia services are still not started at boot up. What am I doing wrong and what is the solution. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] There will be a good Mandrake Future?¡
Damian Gatabria grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Over here, we are taught that "is different from" is symbolized > with a striked-out " = " sign. Well, since my keyboard is missing the striked-out "=" key, "!=" will have to do. :-) --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] "Removable Media" icon
On Thursday 16 January 2003 01:04, James Sparenberg wrote: > HarM, > > edit the .icewm/toolbar file and you can put the icons on the > taskbar. Easy format for example > > prog Evolution jmail.png evolution > > added Evo to the bar. The icon has to be in /usr/share/icons/mini to > get grabbed (it uses 16x16 icons) and if it's not there. It lists the > app name. > > James Thank you James, I knew about the toolbar file but never could get the icons in there. Now I know why :o) For kids (and non-multilinguals) clear icons are very important. Good Luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
