[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release
--Question below: did I stray from TM while (during the period) Muktananda dug his fingers into my eyeballs, giving me Shaktipat? Ans: Nope...not straying, just continuing my overall research into various Gurus. I've always practiced TM since 1967 but wanted to confirm if there was anything else of value (in addition to TM, not replacing it), through my own experience. Is there? Yes: Buddhism but I'm still in the investigative stage and not quite ready to make any pronouncements. Also, chanting the Gayatri mantra is of value. I got initiated into Eckankar in 1970, also Guru Maharaji gave me the Knowledge in 1970. In 1976 I was initiated by Thakur Singh, Darshan Singh, and Charan Singh, and Madhusadandasji.; and I met Muktananda in that year; (seeing him every day for several months in 1980). In 1982, the Kriya Yoga Guru Swami Satyeswarananda Giri initiated me. All of the foregoing was simply part of my ongoing research. Also, I've received intensive training in Fundamentalist Christianity, Hare Krishna philosophy;, Mormonism, and was baptized as a Mormon in 1981. I took refuge from 3 Buddhist teachers: Hsuan Hua (1976), somewhat later Sogyal Rinpoche, and Kalu Rinpoche. I worked at SIMS as a paid employee from 1970 - 1973 but got fired as a result of talking about various other Paths to people there...in L.A. But basically for the last 25 years, I've been closely observing people at work,who are not on the Spiritual path; since during that time among the many hundreds of people I've worked with, only 3 were New Agers. One was into Sant Mat, one was into astrology, and another practiced Hatha Yoga. The rest are basically into Happy Hour and shopping at the Home Depot on weekends. However, I might add that there is a certain consistent percentage of co-workers - mainly Black females; who regularly go to their respective Evangelical Churches , sometimes 3X per week. Impressive!...if one is into Fundamentalism. My ambition (among other things), is to find out what makes ordinary people -i.e. not on the Spiritual path - tick in terms of their reluctance to practice any type of Spiritual Sadhana. For the most part, I blame myself for not coming up with something demonstrable to offer them. Any talk of pure Consciousness only meets with a blank stare. Perhaps a dazzing display of Sidhis would turn such people on. What do you think? Nityananda in his early career was known to manifest various items out of thin air, walk on water, and even stop a train in its tracks. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: ---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he was quite adept at molesting underage Daughters of his disciples. Yes, so I've heard. Still a nice insight, and I appreciate Shemp's posting it. Looks like a mismatch between speech and action! Yes, that might really bother me if I were expecting any particular action/speech from him :-) He initiated me into Shaktipat in 1980. (dug his fingers into my eyeballs and a brilliant image of himself appeared in my visual field). Interesting! Were you a steady TM-er at the time? If so, how did you justify straying? Among many other Master-flavors, I used to channel his shaktipat-energies in 1982 or so. BAM! Very dynamic, but I quit tuning into his channel when I found my heart was feeling pained and strained afterward from the excess voltage running through it :-) I have always found the following photograph of Muktananda's master, Nityananda, most remarkable. Of all the saints' photographs I have seen over the years, this one has the most profound effect upon me: http://www.nityanandainstitute.org/images/jpg/nit_teaching.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Drummer in a previous lifetime?
This boy might have been a drummer in a previous lifetime,too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8cvKImVadE
[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My ambition (among other things), is to find out what makes ordinary people -i.e. not on the Spiritual path - tick in terms of their reluctance to practice any type of Spiritual Sadhana. For the most part, I blame myself for not coming up with something demonstrable to offer them. Any talk of pure Consciousness only meets with a blank stare. Perhaps a dazzing display of Sidhis would turn such people on. What do you think? Another with mystic and unsatisfied eyes Who loved his slain belief and mourned its death, Is there one left who seeks for a Beyond? Can still the path be found, opened the gate? -- from Sri Aurobindo's Savitri. I find that in many respects people not on the spiritual path have no compelling reason to be *on* a spiritual path. As I've said before, none of the people I know at work, as acquaintances, as relatives, as neighbors, or just meet casually are practicing any kind of spiritual practice, and are for the most part happy, congenial, generous good humored souls. Many of them I find to be extraordinarily evolved and comfortable with themselves. The idea that many seekers hold, including myself at one time, that we are somehow special is just not true. What is true is that TM and TMSP works in such a way to very efficiently clean our bodies and the earth's atmosphere of stress and tension. Nothing special about that either, or really on par with the blessed souls that remove the refuse from my house each and every week. Or the wonderful and generous people who aid me in getting food at the store every week. Or the dedicated tanker truck drivers who make it possible for me to drive my car to work, and the enlightened souls at work who help to make each and every day a joy for me. We each play our part, and to see others who may not have found the unique set of circumstances in their lives that compel them to take up some regular and evolving spiritual practice as lacking somehow is a false view, imo. To hold the view that if only more people would meditate, everything would be better is a great hope and desire. But I have found it is best to be very careful with such thoughts; before you know it the ego is splitting the world into us and them. Especially in the last ten years I have observed that many of the next two generations of souls are really remarkably clear and evolved, much more so than our generation was. It is a great credit to all of the meditators to bring this about, to usher in an age where such great souls feel comfortable alighting on earth in greater numbers. I see them everywhere, especially the successively younger generations, which reminds me of another excerpt from Sri Aurobindo's epic poem, Savitri: ...I saw them cross the twilight of an age, The sun-eyed children of a marvelous dawn, Great creators with wide brows of calm, The massive barrier-breakers of the world, Laborers in the quarries of the gods The architects of immortality. Into the fallen human sphere they came, Faces that wore the Immortal's glory still Bodies made beautiful by the spirit's light Carrying the Dionysian cup of joy, Lips chanting an unknown anthem of the soul, Feet echoing in the corridors of Time. High priests of wisdom, sweetness, might, and bliss; Discoverers of beauty's sunlit ways Their tread one day shall change the suffering earth And justify the light on Nature's face. (Savitri, pp. 3434)
[FairfieldLife] Bill Maher cracks me up
I read the below here: http://tinyurl.com/3ysw8q This is very funny stuff, and I am humbled. Edg When Democrats Collapse By Bill Maher May 25, 2007 | New Rule: Jimmy Carter must be shipped off to Guantánamo, stripped to his tighty-whiteys and waterboarded as an enemy combatant. Last weekend, former U.S. President and current al-Qaida operative Jimmy Carter launched an unprovoked attack upon democracy, America and our troops in the field by telling the Arkansas Pennysaver that the Bush administration has been the worst in history. And then he threatened President Bush by saying, I'm going to get on a plane and fly out there and straighten your ass out. As usual, we've been sucked into a phony controversy about who said what and how it hurt George W. Bush's feelings. Because when you hurt George W. Bush you hurt America's feelings, and when you hurt America's feelings, you hurt the troops. And when that happens, Tinkerbell's light goes out and she dies. The Republican outrage machine is always invoking secret rules that liberals didn't know they broke. And apparently when you get to be president, they give you an employee's handbook titled So You're Leader of the Free World -- Now What? It tells you about the nuclear codes, where your parking space is, and to not talk smack about other presidents. But I was up all night on Wikipedia doing an exhaustive study of former presidents, and while other presidents have sucked in their own individual ways, Bush is like a smorgasbord of suck. He combines the corruption of Warren G. Harding, the abuse of power of Richard Nixon and the warmongering of James K. Polk. I mean, who would you rank lower than George W. Bush? Nixon got in trouble for illegally wiretapping Democratic headquarters; Bush is illegally wiretapping the entire country. Nixon opened up relations with the Chinese; Bush let them poison your dog. Herbert Hoover sat on his ass through four years of calamity, but he was an actual engineer. If someone told him about global warming, he would have understood it before the penguins caught on fire. Ulysses Grant was a miserable drunk, but at least he didn't trade booze for Jesus and embolden the snake handlers -- he did the honorable thing and stayed a miserable drunk. Grant let his cronies loot the republic, but he won his civil war. For some inexplicable reason Republicans have taken to comparing Bush to Harry Truman -- a comparison that would make sense only if Harry Truman had A) started World War II and B) lost World War II. Harding sucked, but he once said, I am not fit for this office and never should have been here. So at least he knew he sucked. He never walked offstage like Bush does after one of his embarrassing press conferences with a look on his face like, Nailed it. Bush still acts like every failure is just a friend he hasn't met yet. Now, is it possible for a future president to perform as badly as Bush has? I suppose, theoretically, if we elect someone totally off the wall, like R. Kelly, or the reanimated corpse of Ted Williams, or Rudy Giuliani ... But let's be honest, we would have been better off over the past six years if the Oval Office had been occupied by an orangutan with a Magic 8-Ball. And that's why it's so depressing that when the right-wing noise machine pretended to get upset at what Jimmy Carter said, he did what Democrats always do and backed down. He said his remarks were careless and misrepresented and the sun was in his eyes and his hearing aid went out and he was molested by a clergyman. They confronted him, and he took it all back. Which is what Democrats do. Why couldn't he have just said, No, I meant what I said. And speaking as the first citizen of Habitat for Humanity, let me take out my toolbox and build you a house where we can meet and you can blow me. If a Democrat who's out of office and 100 years old can't speak out, what chance do we have for the ones who are in office? Like the ones who are in Congress now who, emboldened by widespread public approval of their plan to bring the troops home ... this week abandoned that plan. You see, you don't get to become the worst president ever without a little help from the other side.
[FairfieldLife] Re: War-hit Iraq turns to Indian guru for some peace
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tressor@ Perhaps if your time's not up yet, there's really nothing to worry about, really, right? Wrong. Most people who want to stay alive look left and right before crossing the road, right? If he misjudges the situation and maybe his level of consciousness, then he will return in a box. So will you. So will I. So will everyone reading and writing to this forum. BFD. It's not about where you end up IMO -- i.e., wormfood -- it's about how you lived your life getting there. Sounds to me as if SSRS has chosen to live his life on the front lines of the heart... Does this mean he should not look left and right before crossing roads?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ann Coulter on illegal immigrants
jstein wrote: Tyson Foods Miller Brewing Honeywell Home Depot Ford Wells Fargo Bank Hormel IHOP Swift and Co. All hire illegals. So, they are illegals, but are you suggesting that the above companies employ 12 million of them, all with stolen or forged Social Security cards? What percentage of the illegals are employed by the above cited companies? 1%? Shemp wrote: It's far, far less than 1%. I know. I'm relying on the same source as Judy is (the Akasha). So, Judy was attempting to decieve.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drummer in a previous lifetime?
I was thinking ADHD and a few years of practice. He needs to fall in love and have his heart broken a few times to find his feel. IMO here is what a lifetime of living and drumming in this style can produce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYpR5iw9F1M I'm sure you already know him Card, Buddy Rich! I am not really into this style of music or drumming but he completely sucked me in, what a feel he has! I just met and heard an amazing drummer at a School show audition for the local arts council. His name is Tom Teasley. http://www.tomteasley.com/ He did more with tambourines than I see most people do with a drum kit. One cool crossover from ancient traditional drumming techniques, he put his elbow on his floor tom to shape the tone of the drum while he hit it. Kind of a Tabla effect, very cool. I love when kit drummers use techniques from more ancient types of drums. He liked to play different percussion instruments together switching from the Malian Barimba to a Doumbek in mid riff. BTW I stepped up and bought the huge harp Sonny Boy plays in Bye Bye Bird for a show I have Monday night. I found out that this particular harp is a full octave below the C tuning of most harps. The thing is amazing, as deep as the one in Sonny's video. It will make an even bigger impression when I smoke the thing! I'll be tipping my hat to you when I do it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This boy might have been a drummer in a previous lifetime,too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8cvKImVadE
[FairfieldLife] The Identification Process
This identification thingy's the most subtle concept I have ever had to integrate with my world view. Oh, it's an eel in a bucket of slime when I try to grasp it. Don't think that if you can understand my words here that that is all you'll need to make identification your conceptual lapdog. The intellect can only grasp something so much and no more. Then the heart tries with its delicate hands, and it too will fail to take a snapshot of identification. Only the Self is subtle enough to contain this dynamic, wield it with the artistry of an angel alighting on a photon. Everyone is identifying constantly, but it has taken me decades to understand this, see this, feel this truth. Here, let's at least let your intellect play with this. I'll develop a scenario, and hopefully, you'll see -- with your imagination -- THE IDENTIFICATIONAL PROCESS happening in your mind as clearly and in about the same amount of time that it would take a fresh cracked egg to turn cloudy spit-sizzling in a hot pan. So get set, watch for your understanding to shift/gel here. It will happen fast. At some point, you'll see that, Yeah, I could do that, and, yeah, I do do that sort of thing with my mind all the time. Watch for that to happen here as you put yourself into my imagined story-line. The story: Suppose you and a pal are watching a window pane with rain drops hitting it and coursing downwards. You could pick one of the drops, and your pal could pick another, and you could make a friendly few bucks bet that your drop will reach the bottom of the window first. The race begins. Excitement mounts. Will my drop get hit by another one coming down from above and be able to get to the bottom faster? you ask yourself. See? You've decided -- nay, make that YOU'VE DECIDED that you're that drop, and now, its karma has become yours, and you are concerned, attentive, focused on it. Will your drop be lucky? See? That's your desire set for that small drop mounting up, getting expanded by your attending the drop. Does it veer to the right where there's other drops to join, or does it turn left where hardly anything is south of it except still-dry pane? See? Your heart is involved. You want YOUR drop to win the race, be triumphant, obtain gravitational atonement, whatever. At some point, it is no longer the drop I'm betting on, and it is no longer my drop; instead, YOU BECOME IT. You say to your pal, I'm winning when that drop surges ahead of the other. Your pal, of course, WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE A SINGLE TRANSLATE-THE-DROP-METAPHOR THOUGHT, knows what you're saying. To him, you ARE that drop also. Both of you could spend a very long incarnation standing there as the few seconds pass and reveal which of you will finally ALLOW -- give yourself permission to have the emotion of success be authorized to swell within. During that time, well, time itself lengthens like time in a dream does and one lives for ten years in a dream of three minutes. During the raindrop race, you're this tiny entity with a desire that needs fulfilling, with a life-ahead-of-itself, with, yes, a PERSONALITY. I took that right turn and glommed into that big drop there, and zoom, down I dropped another two inches, while my pal's drop hung up in a dry area and needs to be hit by another rain drop to make any faster progress downwards, and oh, wow, I just noticed that there's this little teeny thread or dust mote in my path, and when I hit it, it might slant me sideways such that I'll then drop down to that very large pool below that's just waiting for me to exploit it. HUZZAH HUZZAH HUZZAH! I'M GOING TO WIN! Like that. Like that. Like that we turn our backs on ourSELF and identify with things instead. We become things, instead of the consciousness, the silence of amness, that contains them. Our minds identify with each and every thought that passes through. Oh, I'm that thought. Oh, now I'm that thought. Oh, now I'm that next thought. Click, click, click, we incarnate on each drop of thinking traveling down the pane-paths inside our minds. Attending each thought as it arises is a CHOICE. This action, this choosing to be addicted to the thought stream, seems to say, If I'm that thought, well, then I must want to have another like it, so that I can fulfill that thought's goals, so that it will win, so that other thoughts will come also. I must keep thinking that thought and others like it -- just as I wanted my drop to continue to exist and fulfill itself. Like that. Like that, lIfe is a pane. And, nothing, NO THING, that we can place a bet on, will ever be so complex, so beautiful, so meaningful, so deep, so bountiful a metaphor, that it will capture our attention FOREVER. There's the rub. That's the snag. Oooo, the fine print is seen. The Devil's details get ready to chomp ass when we discover that the human mind is a very tiny place. That's why there's 900 cable television shows -- turns out that
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drummer in a previous lifetime?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking ADHD and a few years of practice. He needs to fall in love and have his heart broken a few times to find his feel. IMO here is what a lifetime of living and drumming in this style can produce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYpR5iw9F1M I'm sure you already know him Card, Buddy Rich! I'm sorry to say, but I don't like Buddy Rich's playing that much. For me he sounds too academic and technocratic! Sure, his technique is superb, with that one hand roll (I think)and stuff. Of those old chaps, I like for instance Louie Bellson more. At least he's got more humor in his playing than Buddy, IMO. I am not really into this style of music or drumming but he completely sucked me in, what a feel he has! I just met and heard an amazing drummer at a School show audition for the local arts council. His name is Tom Teasley. http://www.tomteasley.com/ He did more with tambourines than I see most people do with a drum kit. One cool crossover from ancient traditional drumming techniques, he put his elbow on his floor tom to shape the tone of the drum while he hit it. Kind of a Tabla effect, very cool. I love when kit drummers use techniques from more ancient types of drums. He liked to play different percussion instruments together switching from the Malian Barimba to a Doumbek in mid riff. BTW I stepped up and bought the huge harp Sonny Boy plays in Bye Bye Bird for a show I have Monday night. I found out that this particular harp is a full octave below the C tuning of most harps. The thing is amazing, as deep as the one in Sonny's video. It will make an even bigger impression when I smoke the thing! I'll be tipping my hat to you when I do it. Cool! :D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Overposting?- Thank you, Rick,4 limits restriting some
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Drummer in a previous lifetime?
Thanks for the tip on Louie, I heard some of his stuff on yourtube. All these guys are way too revved up for my emotions. That is what I liked about Tom Teasley. There are some cool videos of him from the Kennedy center: http://www.kennedy-center.org/programs/millennium/artist_detail.cfm?artist_id=TEASLEYTOM# What is amazing to me is that I thought Buddy was famous for being addicted to heroin. I can get how guys like Clapton and Kurt Cobain got their groove on with smack, but these guys seem like they are meth addicts! Perhaps they were so revved up that it was the only way to relax after a gig, that is some hyper shit! In blues bands I always focus on the drummer, they make it or break it for me. If they can't play in a relaxed style a little behind the beat they turn blues into rock and I don't enjoy it as much. It is hard for drummer to chill out enough to let it happen the way I feel it. That is one of the reasons I have to be my own drummer! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I was thinking ADHD and a few years of practice. He needs to fall in love and have his heart broken a few times to find his feel. IMO here is what a lifetime of living and drumming in this style can produce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYpR5iw9F1M I'm sure you already know him Card, Buddy Rich! I'm sorry to say, but I don't like Buddy Rich's playing that much. For me he sounds too academic and technocratic! Sure, his technique is superb, with that one hand roll (I think)and stuff. Of those old chaps, I like for instance Louie Bellson more. At least he's got more humor in his playing than Buddy, IMO. I am not really into this style of music or drumming but he completely sucked me in, what a feel he has! I just met and heard an amazing drummer at a School show audition for the local arts council. His name is Tom Teasley. http://www.tomteasley.com/ He did more with tambourines than I see most people do with a drum kit. One cool crossover from ancient traditional drumming techniques, he put his elbow on his floor tom to shape the tone of the drum while he hit it. Kind of a Tabla effect, very cool. I love when kit drummers use techniques from more ancient types of drums. He liked to play different percussion instruments together switching from the Malian Barimba to a Doumbek in mid riff. BTW I stepped up and bought the huge harp Sonny Boy plays in Bye Bye Bird for a show I have Monday night. I found out that this particular harp is a full octave below the C tuning of most harps. The thing is amazing, as deep as the one in Sonny's video. It will make an even bigger impression when I smoke the thing! I'll be tipping my hat to you when I do it. Cool! :D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drummer in a previous lifetime?
I was confusing Buddy Rich for Gene Krupa on the smack thing: http://youtube.com/watch?v=qRjQzSwmEHwmode=relatedsearch= --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the tip on Louie, I heard some of his stuff on yourtube. All these guys are way too revved up for my emotions. That is what I liked about Tom Teasley. There are some cool videos of him from the Kennedy center: http://www.kennedy-center.org/programs/millennium/artist_detail.cfm?artist_id=TEASLEYTOM# What is amazing to me is that I thought Buddy was famous for being addicted to heroin. I can get how guys like Clapton and Kurt Cobain got their groove on with smack, but these guys seem like they are meth addicts! Perhaps they were so revved up that it was the only way to relax after a gig, that is some hyper shit! In blues bands I always focus on the drummer, they make it or break it for me. If they can't play in a relaxed style a little behind the beat they turn blues into rock and I don't enjoy it as much. It is hard for drummer to chill out enough to let it happen the way I feel it. That is one of the reasons I have to be my own drummer! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I was thinking ADHD and a few years of practice. He needs to fall in love and have his heart broken a few times to find his feel. IMO here is what a lifetime of living and drumming in this style can produce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYpR5iw9F1M I'm sure you already know him Card, Buddy Rich! I'm sorry to say, but I don't like Buddy Rich's playing that much. For me he sounds too academic and technocratic! Sure, his technique is superb, with that one hand roll (I think)and stuff. Of those old chaps, I like for instance Louie Bellson more. At least he's got more humor in his playing than Buddy, IMO. I am not really into this style of music or drumming but he completely sucked me in, what a feel he has! I just met and heard an amazing drummer at a School show audition for the local arts council. His name is Tom Teasley. http://www.tomteasley.com/ He did more with tambourines than I see most people do with a drum kit. One cool crossover from ancient traditional drumming techniques, he put his elbow on his floor tom to shape the tone of the drum while he hit it. Kind of a Tabla effect, very cool. I love when kit drummers use techniques from more ancient types of drums. He liked to play different percussion instruments together switching from the Malian Barimba to a Doumbek in mid riff. BTW I stepped up and bought the huge harp Sonny Boy plays in Bye Bye Bird for a show I have Monday night. I found out that this particular harp is a full octave below the C tuning of most harps. The thing is amazing, as deep as the one in Sonny's video. It will make an even bigger impression when I smoke the thing! I'll be tipping my hat to you when I do it. Cool! :D
[FairfieldLife] Re: War-hit Iraq turns to Indian guru for some peace
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rama krishna aram_1903@ wrote: Ravaged by a violence they had never known before, despairing Iraqis Wednesday turned to...[snip] Before Team America showed up, Iraq was a happy place. They had flowery meadows and rainbow skies, and rivers made of chocolate, where the children danced and laughed and played with gumdrop smiles. So I can infer from you response that if a country falls short of the above flowery scenario, it is OK to then bomb and strafe the hell out of their citizenry? Interesting demonic approach...:-) I was going to comment but then you answered your own question, so go ahead and have a dialog with yourself...
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study | The Guardian | Guardian Unlimited
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2004399,00.html Good! Now we'll have some balance to the 10s of billions of dollars spent annually with the express purpose of trying to fraudulently prove that there IS catastrophic man-made global warming.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When reading the following passage from Swami Muktananda's Satsang with Baba, Volume III (August 18, 1972, page 122), I thought that it was another explanation of the mechanics of stress release; that is, that the thoughts we have during meditation are indications of stress being released on the physical level: According to the seers of the yogic scriptures, countless impressions of past lives are embedded in the central nadi, sushumna. After Kundalini becomes awake, these impressions start rising to the surface. You should be aware that they are coming to the surface to be ejected from the system. If you are aware of this truth, you will find it entirely pointless to be concerned or overwhelmed by the feelings that come to the conscious surface. This also has to do with 'witnessing' what is being released; As if it is not really 'you' that is being released, but a part of 'you' that has been there for a long time. So, witnessing or being with the self, or the 'simplest state of awareness', also helps in the healing and releasing process, and soothes the feeling of being overwhelmed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: ---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he was quite adept at molesting underage Daughters of his disciples. And Bill Clinton brutally raped Juanita Broderick. So what? Whether it's true or untrue regarding what Clinton or Muktananda or Maharishi did, we won't know for sure until said gentlemen are brought to trial for these alleged crimes (assuming they are still alive). In the meantime we can take the positive stuff they said and did and dwell on that. Yes, and even Jesus now gets accused of all kinds of stuff regarding Mary Magdalene- there's just now end to this kind of gossipy thingy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: ---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he was quite adept at molesting underage Daughters of his disciples. And Bill Clinton brutally raped Juanita Broderick. So what? Whether it's true or untrue regarding what Clinton or Muktananda or Maharishi did, we won't know for sure until said gentlemen are brought to trial for these alleged crimes (assuming they are still alive). In the meantime we can take the positive stuff they said and did and dwell on that. Yes, and even Jesus now gets accused of all kinds of stuff regarding Mary Magdalene- there's just now end to this kind of gossipy thingy. Uh, with all due respect, the only thing Jesus has ever been accused of, and in some of the Gospels excised from the Bible, no less, was that he was *married* to Mary Magdalene. Which, of course, would have been perfectly acceptable for a rabbi. One should be careful not to project one's modern hangups about sex onto a period of history in which they are inappropriate. As far as I can tell, the myth of Jesus' celibacy was made up long after his death by uptight men to justify their own inability to relate to half of the human race.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Perhaps a dazzing display of Sidhis would turn such people on. What do you think? snip Wow! I think you should consider writing a book on your various experiences with all these paths and gurus. It might reach a great many people, and would certainly be a whole lot of fun to read! Many thanks for your reply :-) *L*L*L*
Re: [FairfieldLife] A different explanation of stress release
shempmcgurk wrote: When reading the following passage from Swami Muktananda's Satsang with Baba, Volume III (August 18, 1972, page 122), I thought that it was another explanation of the mechanics of stress release; that is, that the thoughts we have during meditation are indications of stress being released on the physical level: According to the seers of the yogic scriptures, countless impressions of past lives are embedded in the central nadi, sushumna. After Kundalini becomes awake, these impressions start rising to the surface. You should be aware that they are coming to the surface to be ejected from the system. If you are aware of this truth, you will find it entirely pointless to be concerned or overwhelmed by the feelings that come to the conscious surface. A lot of TM'ers including teachers read those books back in the late 70's commenting that Muktananda commented on things that MMY wouldn't. These were questions particularly of interest to householders. Most tantric teaching is much simpler than MMY's attempt to secularize a lot of Indian philosophy and yoga. However I would say that boiling it down to the rose and the sap is pretty simple.
[FairfieldLife] Waiting for Gods That Never Come
From heardinnewyork.com (thanks to Turq): Faith Means Waiting for Gods Who Never Come Professor: C'mon, people, we've all done it. It's called a hand job. The priestess gave the statue a hand job every morning to keep the world going. Student: Um, how did she know when the statue finished? Professor: Well... I guess... when the sun came up. --Religion and Love class, Hunter College Overheard by: LH
[FairfieldLife] Re: Waiting for Gods That Never Come
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release
---It's quite true that many people not doing any Sadhana are highly evolved; but it's also true (imo) that they can be MORE highly evolved by taking up some type of meditation practice, or perhaps chanting.. Your opinion differs from that of MMY - since he clearly, at one time believe in and expected an ideal objective to become manifest: Make TM available to the entire world. . My take on his objective: (no...not save the Cheerleader, save the world); but get things right globally - spread the practice of TM to as many people as possible. That's one of my objectives. What's yours? Thanks for your input. Of course, one can look at evolution from any materialist angle. Chuck Yeager was highly evolved as a test pilot and was the first person to break the sound barrier. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: My ambition (among other things), is to find out what makes ordinary people -i.e. not on the Spiritual path - tick in terms of their reluctance to practice any type of Spiritual Sadhana. For the most part, I blame myself for not coming up with something demonstrable to offer them. Any talk of pure Consciousness only meets with a blank stare. Perhaps a dazzing display of Sidhis would turn such people on. What do you think? Another with mystic and unsatisfied eyes Who loved his slain belief and mourned its death, Is there one left who seeks for a Beyond? Can still the path be found, opened the gate? -- from Sri Aurobindo's Savitri. I find that in many respects people not on the spiritual path have no compelling reason to be *on* a spiritual path. As I've said before, none of the people I know at work, as acquaintances, as relatives, as neighbors, or just meet casually are practicing any kind of spiritual practice, and are for the most part happy, congenial, generous good humored souls. Many of them I find to be extraordinarily evolved and comfortable with themselves. The idea that many seekers hold, including myself at one time, that we are somehow special is just not true. What is true is that TM and TMSP works in such a way to very efficiently clean our bodies and the earth's atmosphere of stress and tension. Nothing special about that either, or really on par with the blessed souls that remove the refuse from my house each and every week. Or the wonderful and generous people who aid me in getting food at the store every week. Or the dedicated tanker truck drivers who make it possible for me to drive my car to work, and the enlightened souls at work who help to make each and every day a joy for me. We each play our part, and to see others who may not have found the unique set of circumstances in their lives that compel them to take up some regular and evolving spiritual practice as lacking somehow is a false view, imo. To hold the view that if only more people would meditate, everything would be better is a great hope and desire. But I have found it is best to be very careful with such thoughts; before you know it the ego is splitting the world into us and them. Especially in the last ten years I have observed that many of the next two generations of souls are really remarkably clear and evolved, much more so than our generation was. It is a great credit to all of the meditators to bring this about, to usher in an age where such great souls feel comfortable alighting on earth in greater numbers. I see them everywhere, especially the successively younger generations, which reminds me of another excerpt from Sri Aurobindo's epic poem, Savitri: ...I saw them cross the twilight of an age, The sun-eyed children of a marvelous dawn, Great creators with wide brows of calm, The massive barrier-breakers of the world, Laborers in the quarries of the gods The architects of immortality. Into the fallen human sphere they came, Faces that wore the Immortal's glory still Bodies made beautiful by the spirit's light Carrying the Dionysian cup of joy, Lips chanting an unknown anthem of the soul, Feet echoing in the corridors of Time. High priests of wisdom, sweetness, might, and bliss; Discoverers of beauty's sunlit ways Their tread one day shall change the suffering earth And justify the light on Nature's face. (Savitri, pp. 3434)
[FairfieldLife] Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.
I believe the Blue Pearl bindu is mentioned in the Markandeya Purana. MMY's book The Play of Consciousness was first called The Blue Pearl. M. describes out he was able to travel out of his body riding the Blue Pearl. Also, M. stated that the Blue Pearl offered him a Siddhi of immediately discerning the level (meditation level in terms of experience, Kundalini, etc) of persons who came before him. Since I bowed directly before him on numerous occasions, I wonder what his Blue Pearl told him. Probably not much!. (maybe it was silent - that would be an interesting twist). I also persuaded Charlie Lutes to visit Muktananda when the latter was in Santa Monica; but I seriously doubt that Charlie would bow all the way to the ground before M.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the Blue Pearl bindu is mentioned in the Markandeya Purana. MMY's book The Play of Consciousness was first called The Blue Pearl. M. describes out he was able to travel out of his body riding the Blue Pearl. Also, M. stated that the Blue Pearl offered him a Siddhi of immediately discerning the level (meditation level in terms of experience, Kundalini, etc) of persons who came before him. Since I bowed directly before him on numerous occasions, I wonder what his Blue Pearl told him. Probably not much!. (maybe it was silent - that would be an interesting twist). I also persuaded Charlie Lutes to visit Muktananda when the latter was in Santa Monica; but I seriously doubt that Charlie would bow all the way to the ground before M. I'd be very curious to know: has anyone on this forum had an experience of the Blue Pearl?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Drummer in a previous lifetime?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I was thinking ADHD and a few years of practice. He needs to fall in love and have his heart broken a few times to find his feel. IMO here is what a lifetime of living and drumming in this style can produce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYpR5iw9F1M I'm sure you already know him Card, Buddy Rich! I'm sorry to say, but I don't like Buddy Rich's playing that much. For me he sounds too academic and technocratic! Sure, his technique is superb, with that one hand roll (I think)and stuff. Of those old chaps, I like for instance Louie Bellson more. At least he's got more humor in his playing than Buddy, IMO. I am not really into this style of music or drumming but he completely sucked me in, what a feel he has! I just met and heard an amazing drummer at a School show audition for the local arts council. His name is Tom Teasley. http://www.tomteasley.com/ He did more with tambourines than I see most people do with a drum kit. One cool crossover from ancient traditional drumming techniques, he put his elbow on his floor tom to shape the tone of the drum while he hit it. Kind of a Tabla effect, very cool. I love when kit drummers use techniques from more ancient types of drums. He liked to play different percussion instruments together switching from the Malian Barimba to a Doumbek in mid riff. BTW I stepped up and bought the huge harp Sonny Boy plays in Bye Bye Bird for a show I have Monday night. I found out that this particular harp is a full octave below the C tuning of most harps. The thing is amazing, as deep as the one in Sonny's video. It will make an even bigger impression when I smoke the thing! I'll be tipping my hat to you when I do it. Cool! :D Ok I had to add my favorite. This is doumbek genious. You cannot help but gasp outload when you hear him play This is Tobias Roberson. He can break each beat into perfectly into 100 units while he is doing this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFntr77ZKo0
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the Blue Pearl bindu is mentioned in the Markandeya Purana. MMY's book The Play of Consciousness was first called The Blue Pearl. M. describes out he was able to travel out of his body riding the Blue Pearl. Also, M. stated that the Blue Pearl offered him a Siddhi of immediately discerning the level (meditation level in terms of experience, Kundalini, etc) of persons who came before him. Since I bowed directly before him on numerous occasions, I wonder what his Blue Pearl told him. Probably not much!. (maybe it was silent - that would be an interesting twist). I also persuaded Charlie Lutes to visit Muktananda when the latter was in Santa Monica; but I seriously doubt that Charlie would bow all the way to the ground before M. I'd be very curious to know: has anyone on this forum had an experience of the Blue Pearl? Yes. We had a discussion about it several years ago. The blue pearl is a bindu. A point of entry into some sort of loka of consciousness. Brilliant blue spark in awareness that opens up with golden light pouring out surrounded by a blue rim. When it completely opens there's an entire celestial creation inside. Another world filled with interesting looking dudes and dudettes. The bindu is simply the entry point of your attention entering that level of creation. Iron chains or golden chains, there both chains! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be very curious to know: has anyone on this forum had an experience of the Blue Pearl? When the thousand-petalled lotus first appeared over my head on a TM- sidhis prep course in about '78, it looked much like a huge white- golden parachute with a dark blue center hole -- which may have been the blue pearl -- from which threads of light issued down into the heart. At that time I was still doing a lot of astral-body travel, before I came to realize everything was actually inside this bodymind. Since then electric-blue lights have manifested on numerous occasions, most recently in people's heads here in FF. I have never been too drawn to the whole blue-pearl phenomenon, though, and couldn't say for sure if any of these experiences are equivalent to it. *L*L*L*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Home Loan Alternative
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the Excel file http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/Local%20Services/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote: What these banks do is charge you all the interest up front. The banks are not front-loading interest. They are charging interest on a pay-as-you-go basis. That is, they are charging interest on the outstanding principal. No more, no less. As the principal declines, so does the interest on the remaining principal. This is true for short term loans only, not 30 year fixed loans. Not true. The principle is the same. If you have a teaser low interest loan for the first 5 years, or an ARM, or other more complex loan, then its a slightly different structure -- but the principle is the same -- you pay interest on the outstanding principal. You and the author of the link you gave appear to feel that because initial interest payments are more than principal in the first years of the mortgage, that it is front loaded. Thats an odd definition of front-loaded. Front loaded traditionally means paying MORE interst than is warranted by what is due on remaining principal. Create a payment and interest stream in Excel or Google SS and you will understand whats going on. I have put an excel ss that mimics your case in the FFL files Service. Actual interest does not sink to the level of principal until year 21. But that is NOT front loading in the traditional finance sense of the word. I never heard the term front loaded before so I thought you were using it to mean what we're talking about, that the interest on a 30 year fixed home loan is calculated by the banks on purpose to be paid at the beginning of the loan as you've shown on your excel sheet. This is an arbitrary arrangement by the banks. The interest could have been arranged so the principle so that both could be paid together over the 30 years by simply adding the principle and interest together and dividing the amount over 30 years. The reason the banks do this, is to collect the interest first. That way, if the borrower should decide to pay off the entire loan early, let's say after 10 years, they will end up paying almost the entire amount of principle. Look at your excel sheet and you'll see that after 10 years, the accumulative interest is over $60,000 and the accumulative principle is only $17,000. The pay off would be around $100,000. This is what I'm talking about, banks purposely collecting almost all of the interest up front. In my opinion, this is a scam. Mark
[FairfieldLife] Re: Brief comment on Muktananda's Blue Pearl.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the Blue Pearl bindu is mentioned in the Markandeya Purana. MMY's book The Play of Consciousness was first called The Blue Pearl. Play was one of those watershed books for me. The genuiness of his elightenment was evident. I had my own experience with a pearl during meditation, although I could never determine if it was blue or not. It was a unity type experience where I couldn't tell I was the pearl, or seperate from the pearl. Tremendous bliss, and it lasted several minutes. A real standout experience for me. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Lynch's daughter makes films too
The apple certainly didn't fall too far from the tree: An elaborate metaphor about male oppression and female sexual power, Boxing Helena concerns an obsessive surgeon (Julian Sand) who cuts off the arms and legs of the woman he loves (Sherilynn Fenn). Not exactly a date movie. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/movies/27ande.html
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: My response to a friend's suggestion that we engage in a discussion about th
I finally got around to responding to this guy. Here it is: Ricky, all these oppositions you have, we could take each one, one at a time, and examine them, like the Zimbabwe dictator, Maharishi and Mia Farrow and the rest, the tallest building, Rajas, etc. etc. etc., but the individual issues like these will be endless -- your list will never run out -- because it's rooted in something deeper within you than the individual items and examples. That's a cop out for not examining the motives and realities behind these events. I don't have a polarized TM-Ex agenda. I think there's much more good than bad in the TM Movement. But I do believe there are some serious flaws. I don't really blame you for not wanting to look at them, because I don't think you could look at them thoroughly and openly and be comfortable staying in the movement. But it doesn't mean that someone who has chosen to look at them is merely projecting some inner angst on external events that are beyond reproach. What I've found w/TM-X type people, and most of the fringe roos in Ff (even the more intelligent ones, such as LB), it's kind of like talking to the KKK. I read a book once by a journalist who went down south and interviewed all these KKK crackers -- the leaders, the current and former Grand Wizards and Dragons -- hoping to get at the more thoughtful and intellectual underpinnings of their prejudices, some more valid sounding justifications to write about (perhaps he was hoping at least for something as intelligent sounding as the Bertrand Russell and some of the other quotes you sent me; although, Russell, whom it sounds cool and intelligent to quote, is really not such a good reference for a six-pack Hindu Joe like yourself, because his empiricist philosophical school denied the very possibility of consciousness ever experiencing consciousness). I don't care what his overall philosophy was. I just like the quote I used. What the journalist found was, they really had no intellectual foundations for their beliefs. They were all a bunch of dumb-ass rednecks who had no further justifications than, Those bunch of goddamn coons. I hate em. We both know that your world view is not based on surface issues such as, What about Maharishi's praise of Robert Mugabe? or Well, then why didn't they build the tallest building in the world yet? (Arguments, as Bobby showed, easily blown out of the murky waters of doubt.) Not so easily in my book. If Idi Amin had been around at the time, Maharishi might just as well have praised him. Mugabe is in the same league. Heaping praise on this guy was a error in judgment in my opinion. One reason Maharishi makes these errors is that he surrounds himself with sycophants. Critics, even well-meaning ones, are sent packing. I never expected the world's tallest building to be build. The TMO could never pull off such a project. So either it was one of those flexibility exercises for the people working with Maharishi, or he had unrealistic expectations and squandered a lot of money that might have been used more constructively. And I'm not comparing you to the KKK, although most of the oppositions and prejudices I hear from the Ff fringe are no more thoughtful than racism. Nonsense. Most of the responses from FFL that I appended to the previous email were quite thoughtful, and I'll append more to this one. I am saying that the intellectual underpinnings are simply rooted in a belief system that is a projection of something deeper than sense data and logic; it's about how you process that data and interpret it, which has nothing to do with discrimination and logic, but with the feeling level, and the feeling level is rooted in the fibers of your being, constituted by karma, gunas, planets, the whole package of who you are. You FEEL more comfortable reducing Maharishi to a relative personality, with flaws like all of us, Every enlightened being is also a relative personality with flaws like all of us. He is also much more than that. The paradox of Brahman. If you fail to recognize that Maharishi's pronouncements and actions are influenced by his personal and cultural biases, and instead regard them as universally true expressions of Cosmic Mind, you're depriving yourself of a valid understanding of what enlightenment is. I believe you can find many examples in Maharishi's teaching to support this point. who may know less about Vedic knowledge than some gay cowboy named Dana or Oscar or LeRoy who went to India and studied with the Hindu status quo; you don't FEEL comfortable seeing Maharishi as an embodiment of pure knowledge, the only Rishi in history who has cognized all the vedas, Maharishi never said he cognized all the Vedas. No official movement statement ever pronounced this. If you asked him point blank whether he had cognized all the Vedas, he would probably tell you
[FairfieldLife] Re: Home Loan Alternative
You still don't get the most fundamental concept of finance: the time value of money. Money has a cost. Its like you are renting money. the rent on 120,000 at 6% interest = (6% /12)* 120,000 = $600 / month. that is not arbitrary. Its the monthly cost on the money you loaned. You can pay as much byond that as you like to pay down the principal. You can pay back as much principal as you want AFTER you pay the rent (aka interest)due on the loan each month. If you want to pay the principal down -- and reduce subsequent interest payments, pay 2600 each month. $600 which you owe for renting $120,000 and 2000 principal pay down. After a year of doing that, you would have 96,000 principal due, and your interest would fall to .5% x 96,000 = $480. Study the spreadsheet a little. Look at column D and how the interst is calculated each month. its 6%/12 * the remaning principal each month. There is NOTHING arbitrary about this arrangment. If you want your loan structured so that interest and principal are equal, then (for a 30 year loan) you would have an interst deficit each month. Just like past rent due, you eventually have to pay it. How is that done? The unpaid interest is added to your principal. So you reduce interest by say $400 each mnth by paying equal principal and you now owe $400 in past interest due. That will be added to your principal. You ahve gained nothing except some extra paper work. If you don't like how banks structure their loans, if you really feel its a rip off -- why be ripped off (even ifs only all in your mind). Why not just rent? You either rent property, or you rent money to buy property. And in the first case, your landlord rents the money for the property. And part of your rent is paying him back for his rent on the money to buy the house you rent. have been arranged so the principle so that both could be paid together over the 30 years by simply adding the principle and interest together and dividing the amount over 30 years. This is an arbitrary arrangement by the banks. The interest could have been arranged so the principle so that both could be paid together over the 30 years by simply adding the principle and interest together and dividing the amount over 30 years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ Here is the Excel file The banks are not front-loading interest. They are charging interest on a pay-as-you-go basis. That is, they are charging interest on the outstanding principal. No more, no less. As the principal declines, so does the interest on the remaining principal. This is true for short term loans only, not 30 year fixed loans. Not true. The principle is the same. If you have a teaser low interest loan for the first 5 years, or an ARM, or other more complex loan, then its a slightly different structure -- but the principle is the same -- you pay interest on the outstanding principal. You and the author of the link you gave appear to feel that because initial interest payments are more than principal in the first years of the mortgage, that it is front loaded. Thats an odd definition of front-loaded. Front loaded traditionally means paying MORE interst than is warranted by what is due on remaining principal. Create a payment and interest stream in Excel or Google SS and you will understand whats going on. I have put an excel ss that mimics your case in the FFL files Service. Actual interest does not sink to the level of principal until year 21. But that is NOT front loading in the traditional finance sense of the word. I never heard the term front loaded before so I thought you were using it to mean what we're talking about, that the interest on a 30 year fixed home loan is calculated by the banks on purpose to be paid at the beginning of the loan as you've shown on your excel sheet. This is an arbitrary arrangement by the banks. The interest could have been arranged so the principle so that both could be paid together over the 30 years by simply adding the principle and interest together and dividing the amount over 30 years. The reason the banks do this, is to collect the interest first. That way, if the borrower should decide to pay off the entire loan early, let's say after 10 years, they will end up paying almost the entire amount of principle. Look at your excel sheet and you'll see that after 10 years, the accumulative interest is over $60,000 and the accumulative principle is only $17,000. The pay off would be around $100,000. This is what I'm talking about, banks purposely collecting almost all of the interest up front. In my opinion, this is a scam. Mark
[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: ---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he was quite adept at molesting underage Daughters of his disciples. And Bill Clinton brutally raped Juanita Broderick. So what? Whether it's true or untrue regarding what Clinton or Muktananda or Maharishi did, we won't know for sure until said gentlemen are brought to trial for these alleged crimes (assuming they are still alive). In the meantime we can take the positive stuff they said and did and dwell on that. Yes, and even Jesus now gets accused of all kinds of stuff regarding Mary Magdalene- there's just now end to this kind of gossipy thingy. Uh, with all due respect, the only thing Jesus has ever been accused of, and in some of the Gospels excised from the Bible, no less, was that he was *married* to Mary Magdalene. Which, of course, would have been perfectly acceptable for a rabbi. One should be careful not to project one's modern hangups about sex onto a period of history in which they are inappropriate. As far as I can tell, the myth of Jesus' celibacy was made up long after his death by uptight men to justify their own inability to relate to half of the human race. Yeah, but, Ms. Magdalene was considered to be a whore, and I'm not sure that anyone would respect a Rabbi who married a whore. You remember that in that period of history, her fate would have been death, if Jesus had not intervened. Much like the women of Islam who would suffer the same fate, in this period of history, if anyone of them committed the same 'crime'.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: ---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he was quite adept at molesting underage Daughters of his disciples. And Bill Clinton brutally raped Juanita Broderick. So what? Whether it's true or untrue regarding what Clinton or Muktananda or Maharishi did, we won't know for sure until said gentlemen are brought to trial for these alleged crimes (assuming they are still alive). In the meantime we can take the positive stuff they said and did and dwell on that. Yes, and even Jesus now gets accused of all kinds of stuff regarding Mary Magdalene- there's just now end to this kind of gossipy thingy. Uh, with all due respect, the only thing Jesus has ever been accused of, and in some of the Gospels excised from the Bible, no less, was that he was *married* to Mary Magdalene. Which, of course, would have been perfectly acceptable for a rabbi. One should be careful not to project one's modern hangups about sex onto a period of history in which they are inappropriate. As far as I can tell, the myth of Jesus' celibacy was made up long after his death by uptight men to justify their own inability to relate to half of the human race. Which brings us back to the theme of the Da Vinci Code. I believe the author was trying to imagine the possibility of the divine and humans, a product of the earth or matter, coming together as one. Then, their descendants will perpetuate a new race of people here on earth.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A different explanation of stress release
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt qntmpkt@ wrote: ---Yea...Swami Muktananda - it appears from available evidence that he was quite adept at molesting underage Daughters of his disciples. And Bill Clinton brutally raped Juanita Broderick. So what? Whether it's true or untrue regarding what Clinton or Muktananda or Maharishi did, we won't know for sure until said gentlemen are brought to trial for these alleged crimes (assuming they are still alive). In the meantime we can take the positive stuff they said and did and dwell on that. Yes, and even Jesus now gets accused of all kinds of stuff regarding Mary Magdalene- there's just now end to this kind of gossipy thingy. Uh, with all due respect, the only thing Jesus has ever been accused of, and in some of the Gospels excised from the Bible, no less, was that he was *married* to Mary Magdalene. Which, of course, would have been perfectly acceptable for a rabbi. One should be careful not to project one's modern hangups about sex onto a period of history in which they are inappropriate. As far as I can tell, the myth of Jesus' celibacy was made up long after his death by uptight men to justify their own inability to relate to half of the human race. Yeah, but, Ms. Magdalene was considered to be a whore, and I'm not sure that anyone would respect a Rabbi who married a whore. You remember that in that period of history, her fate would have been death, if Jesus had not intervened. Much like the women of Islam who would suffer the same fate, in this period of history, if anyone of them committed the same 'crime'. The current gospels show her as a reformed person and is considered a saint. Kazantsakis, the author, has dealth with this possibility of Jesus' relationship with Magdalene. In any event, the Reverend Moon has picked up on this idea that Christ's true destiny was to get married and create a new race of people here on earth. This appears to be the reason why we see a lot of group marriages among the Moonies.
