[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds to me as if several people are buying into the pre-publication memes being spread by Dan Brown's publicists to pave the way for his next best seller. :-) To follow up, here's some information from Wikipedia. I just think it's hilarious that people like some of the folks who are so full of fear on this group are working themselves up into a full-fledged obsession based on the work of *publicists* who are spreading memes to hype the sales of an upcoming book. :-) The Solomon Key is the working title of a unreleased novel currently being worked on by Dan Brown. According to current information, The Solomon Key will be the third book involving Robert Langdon, the fictional Harvard University professor, and will likely take place after the events of Angels and Demons and The Da Vinci Code. No publication date has yet been set. Likely content There have been a number of educated guesses regarding the content of The Solomon Key. While Dan Brown has offered some hints in interviews, in large part most ideas to the likely content of the upcoming book come from a marketing strategy used by Brown and his publishers. On the original jacket cover of The Da Vinci Code were a number of ciphers and symbols, the meaning of which was made clear when a web quest was posted on Dan Brown's website that referenced these clues. This competition made clear that the ciphers referenced the content of the next book from Dan Brown: Disguised on the jacket of The Da Vinci Code, numerous encrypted messages hint at the subject matter of Dan Brown's next book From these clues, it seems that the following will play a part in the novel: * The fraternity that is known as Freemasonry * The Masonic membership of 20 of the 56 Founding Fathers * The semi-esoteric architecture of Washington, D.C. * Solomon Kullback, a famous NSA cryptographer * Robert Langdon as the protagonist * A look into the history of the United States (this has since been confirmed by Brown). It is reported that the book will reference controversial subjects such as the deist viewpoints of some of the Founding Fathers and the Skull and Bones secret society. KSL-TV in Salt Lake City ran a story that in 2004, Dan Brown visited Salt Lake and seemed very interested in the Masonic nature of the symbols carved on the outside of the LDS Temple. This relationship, among others, between Freemasonry and Mormonism may play a role in The Solomon Key. Further research into the ciphers left on the dust jacket of The Da Vinci Code, and also into Brown's previous sources of information, suggest that the following are also possible plot devices in The Solomon Key: * The Kryptos sculpture in the complex of the Central Intelligence Agency in Langley, Virginia (the web quest mentions it by name) * The Mona Lisa's right eye (oeil droit in the web quest), possibly mixed with esoteric connections to the Eye of Horus (udjat) and the portrayal of George Washington on the U.S. dollar bill. * The Great Seal of the United States, which some claim contains the Illuminati symbol of an eye above an unfinished pyramid. * The Information Awareness Office, which has as part of its logo the eye and pyramid mentioned above. * The House of the Temple, a masonic temple in Washington, D.C. * The Society of the Cincinnati, a group formed by officers of the American Revolution who idolized Cincinnatus which (to the alarm of Thomas Jefferson) mutated into a hereditary support system for families of the society. At the time, it was widely criticized as a way of setting up a hereditary nobility in America. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: 11:11? Is this grid idea a freemasonic / Illuminati attempt to reinforce some satanist ritual they plan to enact at these times? Heh heh. 11.11 GMT would be 5.11am on God's Longitude, which runs right through Washington DC. 5.11 seems to have no significance, because George Washington, Ben Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, and others were all FreeMasons (and Jefferson was as good as - he idolized Sir Francis Bacon of Elizabethan times, who was the founder of the Rosicrutians, a Masonic offshoot). George Washington was inaugurated as President of US by the Freemason Grand Master of New York city. He read a Masonic oath when he was inaugurated. These founders made a deliberate and calculated decision about where exactly DC would be built. Washington DC lines up in a straight line with the other 4 other cities of the Revolutionary period in the North East: Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, New York. If you follow that line through the 5 cities, around the globe, it creates a great circle which goes EXACTLY through Stonehenge in
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: snip The luciferian opening you extol, and which the Illuminati so desperatelly wants humanity to believe in, is by your own confession to fall into amnesia about all levels of existence except the five sense reality. This amnesia is not the point of start of dynamic will, awareness or self discovery - it's the dead end of all these things and the place where the Illuminati wishes to keep humanity indefinitely: Perhaps, but that would be impossible as the spark of divinity exists in us all, waiting for release. I think the point of awareness in the five senses is to learn the lessons of life thru the experiences of opposites, (i.e. pleasure from good-pain from bad) it's a sort of nursery school for infant humanity, hopefully we will all graduate, but never stay here indefinitely. (1) It is certainly impossible in terms of Spirit, but once they GMO and microchip us - the bodies we now have at our disposal may have become useless as tools for experiences outside of the five senses. (2) But there is nothing there to learn :-) This whole hierchial graduate thinking is an illusion imposed on you to make you believe you are not worthy of being what you already are. What you in effect are saying is: O please Lord, keep me in prison a little bit longer since I do not yet feel worthy of being released. I don't remember why, but these feeling of guilt and inferiority I experience must be the result of myself being a relly bad person - if not in this life than surely in some previous one. The feelings are illusions invented by the Illuminati and imposed on you to enslave you and the rest of humanity. There is no natural place for them in Life (remorse, inferiority or the Illuminati) - they are all manufactured things that need of constant reinforcement not to fall apart by themselves. And the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush Regime: Destoyed Center of Gravity in Bagdhad'
What has been going on in Iraq since 1991 is the depopulation of that country: indicators of which are i.a. the staggering child mortality. The Illuminati plan is to base their planned World Government in the that place. The reason for this is not nostalgia (and I differ from Icke here), but the same reason that made them chose that location afdter the great deluge - geopolitics. Iraq/Iran is at the very center of the Euroasian continent so it's the (only) logical choice to base a government bent on worl ddominiation. Here's an advance notice of how this will happen this time: since the game appears to be up as far a constructing a fictious arab threat to the world, and the chinese leadership seems to clever to be pulled into the game, the final trick to be played on mankind may very well be the threat of an alien invasion. Yes, keep giggling while you can. It will happen when the USAF opens the doors to their underground bases and let their armada of Nazi-stolen antigravity tehcnology persuade us about this - which will then be the immediate justification for mircochipping every human on the planet. The result will be that only complex living organisms which sends out positive RFID responses to NATO hunt and kill units will be spared immediate annihilation. I.e. anyone refusing to be microchipped will met instant death with the defense of being an alien. I.e. The same everyone-who-is-not-for-us-is-against-us-rationale that has filled secret prisons around the world with terrorists. You can stop this bullshit right now, right today, but refusing to fund the madness by not paying federal tax. Believe it or not, US courts have confirmed these taxes to be unconstotutional, i.e. illegal - a nice little fact the government and IRS have been doing a good job in keeping people from knowing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The evil unleashed, since this invasion has become mind numbing: from the prison fiasco, to the Iraq museum fiasco, to the lies, and false ridiculous theory's of political process, it still goes on... Saddam, evil as he was, looks like kindergarten now, compared to the reality on the ground, after 'Shock Awe, and so many long years, lives shattered, souls shaken, unbelievable! I think George Bush will be remembered in much the same way as Napoleon Bonaparte of France, when somehow, someway, he made himself into some kind of emperor, spreading democracy around the kingdom... - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on Yoga Sutras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip Regarding bhakti, Madhusudana Saraswati says : Duality is Bondage before MOKSHA, and after Realization it is wisdom ! The imaginary duality of BHAKTI is sweeter than even Non- duality! snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: I can vouch for this! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me make a prediction: Your mini-me Jim will says he agree with you shortly. Let me make a prediction: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Whatever he says will bother you :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: How could it? Its Perfect. Rory: Denial and humor? Or am I wrong? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on Yoga Sutras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip Regarding bhakti, Madhusudana Saraswati says : Duality is Bondage before MOKSHA, and after Realization it is wisdom ! The imaginary duality of BHAKTI is sweeter than even Non- duality! snip Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: I can vouch for this! :-) new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Let me make a prediction: Your mini-me Jim will says he agree with you shortly. Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Let me make a further prediction: Whatever he says will bother you, *and* that you will deny being bothered, masking your pain as humor :-) (Hope I'm wrong though) new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you still beating your wife? Exactly! That is why I hope I'm wrong: Because I know I'm talking to one of my own particles, and though I have done so in the past (when I didn't understand my own simple nature as well as I do now), in this moment I'm not laughing at it; I feel its pain, infinitesimal as it is, as it thrashes around denying our emptiful nature, misunderstanding it and thinking that because I sustain uncountable trillions of particles, that I cannot care about each one of Us. What we failed to remember and take into account was that most of our uncountable trillions did not experiment with forgetfulness, rebellion, and separation (or if we remembered, it only added to our guilt and rage and sense of separation) -- but they consciously maintained the harmony of the primordial song, to ground and heal and remind the rest of us who chose the path of temporary blindness/deafness, when the time came to remember this was a dream, and to return home enriched and enriching with our new understandings and experiences and stories of self. That's when we see that it is and always has been Perfect :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) It is certainly impossible in terms of Spirit, but once they GMO and microchip us - the bodies we now have at our disposal may have become useless as tools for experiences outside of the five senses. (2) But there is nothing there to learn :-) This whole hierchial graduate thinking is an illusion imposed on you to make you believe you are not worthy of being what you already are. What you in effect are saying is: O please Lord, keep me in prison a little bit longer since I do not yet feel worthy of being released. I don't remember why, but these feeling of guilt and inferiority I experience must be the result of myself being a really bad person - if not in this life than surely in some previous one. That would be correct, as conscience is a product of evolution that is brought over from one life to the next thru the souls intuition. The feelings are illusions invented by the Illuminati and imposed on you to enslave you and the rest of humanity. There is no natural place for them in Life (remorse, inferiority or the Illuminati) - they are all manufactured things that need of constant reinforcement not to fall apart by themselves. They should remind us of work we need to do, whether morally or ethically to come into alignment with God's laws and purposes for life/us. And the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! The world of relativity (maya) contains no absolutes, to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the case. God can dissolve creation at any time he chooses as creation is nothing but a dream in the mind of God. The path to remembering who you are is the path of Dharma or Righteousness, that is to come into alignment with the laws of nature which are carrying all things to ultimate perfection thru evolution. Or, like you said...remember who you are, a spark of the almighty.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on Yoga Sutras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: snip Regarding bhakti, Madhusudana Saraswati says : Duality is Bondage before MOKSHA, and after Realization it is wisdom ! The imaginary duality of BHAKTI is sweeter than even Non- duality! snip Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: I can vouch for this! :-) new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Let me make a prediction: Your mini-me Jim will says he agree with you shortly. Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Let me make a further prediction: Whatever he says will bother you, *and* that you will deny being bothered, masking your pain as humor :-) (Hope I'm wrong though) new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Are you still beating your wife? Exactly! That is why I hope I'm wrong: Because I know I'm talking to one of my own particles, and though I have done so in the past (when I didn't understand my own simple nature as well as I do now), in this moment I'm not laughing at it; I feel its pain, infinitesimal as it is, as it thrashes around denying our emptiful nature, misunderstanding it and thinking that because I sustain uncountable trillions of particles, that I cannot care about each one of Us. What we failed to remember and take into account was that most of our uncountable trillions did not experiment with forgetfulness, rebellion, and separation (or if we remembered, it only added to our guilt and rage and sense of separation) -- but they consciously maintained the harmony of the primordial song, to ground and heal and remind the rest of us who chose the path of temporary blindness/deafness, when the time came to remember this was a dream, and to return home enriched and enriching with our new understandings and experiences and stories of self. That's when we see that it is and always has been Perfect :-) ...and of course, I can hear you saying, But that too is just another story! To which I will reply, And so is that! And so on... The bottom line is, I love you -- always have, always will :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Imagine~ Tomorrow/Saturday - Fire the Grid- 6:11 AM CST'
On Jul 14, 2007, at 2:59 PM, peterklutz wrote: 11:11? Is this grid idea a freemasonic / Illuminati attempt to reinforce some satanist ritual they plan to enact at these time Yes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus Camp
Should we take the delusions of these deranged men as divine religion.?? Semitic religions ie Christianity islam are Virus memes that have gone out of control. It's a form of collective madness that is very much similar to Slavery, Foot-binding, Female Circumcision, Sati burning and Female infanticide etc etc. boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:00:25 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus Camp Every single fundamentalist christian I've spoken to the past 30 years is absolutely convinced they are going to heaven and every non christian is going to hell. who cares how they justify it, conduct or grace or donations to the church, the point is that's their arrogant and closeminded belief. actually that fundamentalist christians don't give a rats ass about conduct is one of their big problems. have you read the immensely popular left behind books - floating up to heaven and not being left behind to get zapped with the non believers by jesus is the major motivator for them. for fundies grace is just a pretty word for superiority. - Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Imagine~ Tomorrow/Saturday - Fire the Grid- 6:11 AM CST'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 14, 2007, at 2:59 PM, peterklutz wrote: 11:11? Is this grid idea a freemasonic / Illuminati attempt to reinforce some satanist ritual they plan to enact at these time Yes. But relax, because its real purpose is to cause peterklutz's brain to explode, and the resulting blast damage is likely to be very small. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
On Jul 14, 2007, at 8:56 PM, off_world_beings wrote: This is the tip of the iceberg of the strange history of Freemasonry. I am not interested in this as a conspiracy theory, but it is some fascinating history. Fortunately, from the POV of Masonic scholarship--which Europe has several endowed chairs for Masonic research at major universities-- the presentation and arrangements of facts are far from the real truth of the matter, which is much less fanciful, but the truth (being better than fiction) is IMO much more interesting. For authentic input on the broader Masonic phenomenon going on back then, check out the work of late great scholar Dame Frances Yates like The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age, The Rosicrucian Enlightenment--and if you really want to grasp the origins, The Art of Memory (which is on the ancient art of ars memoria). If you'd like to grasp that such sciences existed in medieval Scotland, read Scottish professor emeritus David Stevenson's The Origins of Freemasonry: Scotland's Century, 1590-1710. These are all modern classics. If you want to grok how Freemasonry helped put an end to the feudal system, check out Born In Blood by Robinson. It also goes on to show how the same principle of universal freedom exemplified by the craft in Europe, was brought to the US. The great operative (as opposed to speculative) Freemasonic monuments, many became the first universities of the western world which gave rise to the idea of the arts liberale and free education for all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 14, 2007, at 8:56 PM, off_world_beings wrote: This is the tip of the iceberg of the strange history of Freemasonry. I am not interested in this as a conspiracy theory, but it is some fascinating history. Fortunately, from the POV of Masonic scholarship--which Europe has several endowed chairs for Masonic research at major universities-- the presentation and arrangements of facts are far from the real truth of the matter, which is much less fanciful, but the truth (being better than fiction) is IMO much more interesting. For authentic input on the broader Masonic phenomenon going on back then, check out the work of late great scholar Dame Frances Yates like The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age, The Rosicrucian Enlightenment--and if you really want to grasp the origins, The Art of Memory (which is on the ancient art of ars memoria). If you'd like to grasp that such sciences existed in medieval Scotland, read Scottish professor emeritus David Stevenson's The Origins of Freemasonry: Scotland's Century, 1590-1710. These are all modern classics. If you want to grok how Freemasonry helped put an end to the feudal system, check out Born In Blood by Robinson. It also goes on to show how the same principle of universal freedom exemplified by the craft in Europe, was brought to the US. The great operative (as opposed to speculative) Freemasonic monuments, many became the first universities of the western world which gave rise to the idea of the arts liberale and free education for all. YES -- I greatly enjoyed Robinson's book, as well as everything Frances Yates wrote -- including, also, Theatre of the World, Shakespeare's Last Plays: A New Approach, and Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition. Haven't read Stevenson yet; thanks for the recommendation :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
On Jul 15, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 14, 2007, at 8:56 PM, off_world_beings wrote: This is the tip of the iceberg of the strange history of Freemasonry. I am not interested in this as a conspiracy theory, but it is some fascinating history. Fortunately, from the POV of Masonic scholarship--which Europe has several endowed chairs for Masonic research at major universities-- the presentation and arrangements of facts are far from the real truth of the matter, which is much less fanciful, but the truth (being better than fiction) is IMO much more interesting. For authentic input on the broader Masonic phenomenon going on back then, check out the work of late great scholar Dame Frances Yates like The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age, The Rosicrucian Enlightenment--and if you really want to grasp the origins, The Art of Memory (which is on the ancient art of ars memoria). If you'd like to grasp that such sciences existed in medieval Scotland, read Scottish professor emeritus David Stevenson's The Origins of Freemasonry: Scotland's Century, 1590-1710. These are all modern classics. If you want to grok how Freemasonry helped put an end to the feudal system, check out Born In Blood by Robinson. It also goes on to show how the same principle of universal freedom exemplified by the craft in Europe, was brought to the US. The great operative (as opposed to speculative) Freemasonic monuments, many became the first universities of the western world which gave rise to the idea of the arts liberale and free education for all. YES -- I greatly enjoyed Robinson's book, as well as everything Frances Yates wrote -- including, also, Theatre of the World, Shakespeare's Last Plays: A New Approach, and Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition. Haven't read Stevenson yet; thanks for the recommendation :-) Stevenson's scholarship is the one that actually connected ars memoria to Scottish Freemasonry by finding passing reference to it in the early Schaw Statutes--but he also sees (thanks to Dame Yates) the connection to the neoplatonic hierarchies of Iamblichus' De Mysteriis. That mixture, along with a Christian and a Jewish Kabbalah, was what was to become Europe's divine theurgy: ceremonial magick.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stevenson's scholarship is the one that actually connected ars memoria to Scottish Freemasonry by finding passing reference to it in the early Schaw Statutes--but he also sees (thanks to Dame Yates) the connection to the neoplatonic hierarchies of Iamblichus' De Mysteriis. That mixture, along with a Christian and a Jewish Kabbalah, was what was to become Europe's divine theurgy: ceremonial magick. Most fascinating; I've just ordered it; thanks again, Steve :-) Sometime after building my immortal body with all its magical correspondences, I read Yates' Art of Memory and noticed some interesting resonances between those old systems and my own -- which was indeed a system of memory/creation -- as well as my Initiations and those of Freemasonry. I am looking forward to reading Stevenson! My apologies to all for posting more than 5 times/day lately; I'm going to be away from the computer for the next few days, so it should all even out :-) *Love*Light*Laughter* (*A*V*M*)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on Yoga Sutras
An FYI for Trinity, (and anyone else) For those interested in how krishna-bhakta manifests in the consciousness of an advaita yogin, an excellent resource to read is MadhusUdana Saraswati's commentary on the Bhagavad Gita. He interweaves a word-for-word analysis of each Gita verse with many quotes and examples of text from the yogasutras, upanishads and brahmasutras. He wrote extraordinary bhakti text such as the Bhakti-Rasayana but these have not been translated yet. Dr. Lance Nelson, professor and chair of the religion department at UC-San Diego, told me in an email that he is planning to publish some of this material in a book but I haven't seen anything yet. The best translation is: Madhusudana Sarasvati Bhagavad-Gita: with the annotation Gudhartha-Dipika Translated by Swami Gambhirananda 1038 page quality hardback for $19.95 (a steal) published by Advaita AshramaThis book is available at: Vedanta Press and Catalog www.vedanta.com t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read your link. I agree with you entirely. The link in the link is worth reading. So, as an information to Judy, the following might be instructive: 'As an aside, these authors are quite aware that their method is very close to the madhyamaka approach, but they categorically assert brahman as the only absolute, and still find fault with nAgArjuna for not asserting the existence of one absolute.' http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/creation.html There was recently a thread in the Yahoo group Advaitin, regarding the difference between the three major Vedanta philosophies: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/advaitin/messages/36214?threaded=1m=evar=1tidx=1 It led me to the following overview: http://www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip/74.html The thread also mentions 'Madhusudana Saraswati' who was an Advaitin, but also a great Bhakta. We recently had here with Ron and Swami_G the discussion about Non Brahmins non being admitted to the Dandi Swami orders. Well, that Non-Brahmins had access to the 7 other orders finally, was due to the activity of Madhusudana Sarsawati, who was also a great scholar, and this was also the birth of the Naga Babas, the warrior sadhus. It was he who brought the issue that many Sadhus where the victim of islamic faqirs to Akbar, who suggested that Non-Brahmins should be admitted who could fight and carry weapons. As a concession to the orthodox it was determined, that three orders should be excluded from this innovation, among them the Saraswati order. Madhusudana persuaded the Sadhu congregations to follow Akhbars advice. There was also an argument with Ron that Shivananda, being a Saraswati, also initiated Non-Brahmins. I now have read that this tradition has loosened in the south, so, yes Saraswatis in the south can be Non Brahmins, but they can definitely not be Dandi Swamis. Regarding bhakti, Madhusudana Saraswati says : Duality is Bondage before MOKSHA, and after Realization it is wisdom ! The imaginary duality of BHAKTI is sweeter than even Non- duality! This may be especially interesting to Vaj who believes that MMY invented Bhagavati Chetana. Nothing could be further from truth! - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
[FairfieldLife] MadhusUdhana Saraswati (was Re: Shankara on Yoga Sutras)
For those interested - An excellent resourse to read is MadhusuUdana Saraswati's commentary on the Bhagavad Gita. He interweaves a word-for-word analysis of each Gita verse with many quotes and examples of text from the yogasutras, upanishads and brahmasutras. The best translation is: Madhusudana Sarasvati Bhagavad-Gita: with the annotation Gudhartha-Dipika Translated by Swami Gambhirananda 1038 page quality hardback for $19.95 published by Advaita Ashrama This book is available at: Vedanta Press and Catalog www.vedanta.com t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read your link. I agree with you entirely. The link in the link is worth reading. So, as an information to Judy, the following might be instructive: 'As an aside, these authors are quite aware that their method is very close to the madhyamaka approach, but they categorically assert brahman as the only absolute, and still find fault with nAgArjuna for not asserting the existence of one absolute.' http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/creation.html There was recently a thread in the Yahoo group Advaitin, regarding the difference between the three major Vedanta philosophies: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/advaitin/messages/36214?threaded=1m=evar=1tidx=1 It led me to the following overview: http://www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip/74.html The thread also mentions 'Madhusudana Saraswati' who was an Advaitin, but also a great Bhakta. We recently had here with Ron and Swami_G the discussion about Non Brahmins non being admitted to the Dandi Swami orders. Well, that Non-Brahmins had access to the 7 other orders finally, was due to the activity of Madhusudana Sarsawati, who was also a great scholar, and this was also the birth of the Naga Babas, the warrior sadhus. It was he who brought the issue that many Sadhus where the victim of islamic faqirs to Akbar, who suggested that Non-Brahmins should be admitted who could fight and carry weapons. As a concession to the orthodox it was determined, that three orders should be excluded from this innovation, among them the Saraswati order. Madhusudana persuaded the Sadhu congregations to follow Akhbars advice. There was also an argument with Ron that Shivananda, being a Saraswati, also initiated Non-Brahmins. I now have read that this tradition has loosened in the south, so, yes Saraswatis in the south can be Non Brahmins, but they can definitely not be Dandi Swamis. Regarding bhakti, Madhusudana Saraswati says : Duality is Bondage before MOKSHA, and after Realization it is wisdom ! The imaginary duality of BHAKTI is sweeter than even Non- duality! This may be especially interesting to Vaj who believes that MMY invented Bhagavati Chetana. Nothing could be further from truth! - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
On Jul 15, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stevenson's scholarship is the one that actually connected ars memoria to Scottish Freemasonry by finding passing reference to it in the early Schaw Statutes--but he also sees (thanks to Dame Yates) the connection to the neoplatonic hierarchies of Iamblichus' De Mysteriis. That mixture, along with a Christian and a Jewish Kabbalah, was what was to become Europe's divine theurgy: ceremonial magick. Most fascinating; I've just ordered it; thanks again, Steve :-) Sometime after building my immortal body with all its magical correspondences, I read Yates' Art of Memory and noticed some interesting resonances between those old systems and my own -- which was indeed a system of memory/creation -- as well as my Initiations and those of Freemasonry. I am looking forward to reading Stevenson! There definitely is an inner parallel to awakening. In it's eastern sense, it would refer to the states of consciousness known as the arising of mandalas and the arising of letters.
[FairfieldLife] Shemp is a Wooly Mammoth
Sir Shemp, i've been reading your posts for along time. I have come to the conclusion that you were a Wooly Mammoth in your previous incarnation. - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Bush Regime: Destoyed Center of Gravity in Bagdhad'
You might like this guys site, MP3 blurbs and radio interviews: http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/index.html There is a link on there to a UK Department of Defense PDF that is a rather interesting read: http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/articles.html peterklutz wrote: What has been going on in Iraq since 1991 is the depopulation of that country: indicators of which are i.a. the staggering child mortality. The Illuminati plan is to base their planned World Government in the that place. The reason for this is not nostalgia (and I differ from Icke here), but the same reason that made them chose that location afdter the great deluge - geopolitics. Iraq/Iran is at the very center of the Euroasian continent so it's the (only) logical choice to base a government bent on worl ddominiation. Here's an advance notice of how this will happen this time: since the game appears to be up as far a constructing a fictious arab threat to the world, and the chinese leadership seems to clever to be pulled into the game, the final trick to be played on mankind may very well be the threat of an alien invasion. Yes, keep giggling while you can. It will happen when the USAF opens the doors to their underground bases and let their armada of Nazi-stolen antigravity tehcnology persuade us about this - which will then be the immediate justification for mircochipping every human on the planet. The result will be that only complex living organisms which sends out positive RFID responses to NATO hunt and kill units will be spared immediate annihilation. I.e. anyone refusing to be microchipped will met instant death with the defense of being an alien. I.e. The same everyone-who-is-not-for-us-is-against-us-rationale that has filled secret prisons around the world with terrorists. You can stop this bullshit right now, right today, but refusing to fund the madness by not paying federal tax. Believe it or not, US courts have confirmed these taxes to be unconstotutional, i.e. illegal - a nice little fact the government and IRS have been doing a good job in keeping people from knowing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The evil unleashed, since this invasion has become mind numbing: from the prison fiasco, to the Iraq museum fiasco, to the lies, and false ridiculous theory's of political process, it still goes on... Saddam, evil as he was, looks like kindergarten now, compared to the reality on the ground, after 'Shock Awe, and so many long years, lives shattered, souls shaken, unbelievable! I think George Bush will be remembered in much the same way as Napoleon Bonaparte of France, when somehow, someway, he made himself into some kind of emperor, spreading democracy around the kingdom... - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on Yoga Sutras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An FYI for Trinity, (and anyone else) For those interested in how krishna-bhakta manifests in the consciousness of an advaita yogin, an excellent resource to read is MadhusUdana Saraswati's commentary on the Bhagavad Gita. He interweaves a word-for-word analysis of each Gita verse with many quotes and examples of text from the yogasutras, upanishads and brahmasutras. He wrote extraordinary bhakti text such as the Bhakti-Rasayana but these have not been translated yet. Dr. Lance Nelson, professor and chair of the religion department at UC-San Diego, http://www.sandiego.edu/theo/facultystaff/nelson.php Actually its University of San Diego -- a completely different university than UC San Diego. Though both have stellar reputations -- and both sit on hills perched above San Diego -- but 5-10 miles apart. Both not to be confused with SDSU -- San Diego Sate University (can you say party?) -- which again sits on a hill, but more inland. Fascinating that Lance is at USD. I do not know of him -- but lived in SD for many years. Funny how such great resources are within walking (aka bicycling) distance -- without even knowing it. Does have any past TMO connection? http://www.sandiego.edu/theo/facultystaff/nelson.php told me in an email that he is planning to publish some of this material in a book but I haven't seen anything yet. The best translation is: Madhusudana Sarasvati Bhagavad-Gita: with the annotation Gudhartha-Dipika Translated by Swami Gambhirananda 1038 page quality hardback for $19.95 (a steal) published by Advaita AshramaThis book is available at: Vedanta Press and Catalog www.vedanta.com t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim emptybill@ wrote: I read your link. I agree with you entirely. The link in the link is worth reading. So, as an information to Judy, the following might be instructive: 'As an aside, these authors are quite aware that their method is very close to the madhyamaka approach, but they categorically assert brahman as the only absolute, and still find fault with nAgArjuna for not asserting the existence of one absolute.' http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/creation.html There was recently a thread in the Yahoo group Advaitin, regarding the difference between the three major Vedanta philosophies: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/advaitin/messages/36214?threaded=1m=evar=1tidx=1 It led me to the following overview: http://www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip/74.html The thread also mentions 'Madhusudana Saraswati' who was an Advaitin, but also a great Bhakta. We recently had here with Ron and Swami_G the discussion about Non Brahmins non being admitted to the Dandi Swami orders. Well, that Non-Brahmins had access to the 7 other orders finally, was due to the activity of Madhusudana Sarsawati, who was also a great scholar, and this was also the birth of the Naga Babas, the warrior sadhus. It was he who brought the issue that many Sadhus where the victim of islamic faqirs to Akbar, who suggested that Non-Brahmins should be admitted who could fight and carry weapons. As a concession to the orthodox it was determined, that three orders should be excluded from this innovation, among them the Saraswati order. Madhusudana persuaded the Sadhu congregations to follow Akhbars advice. There was also an argument with Ron that Shivananda, being a Saraswati, also initiated Non-Brahmins. I now have read that this tradition has loosened in the south, so, yes Saraswatis in the south can be Non Brahmins, but they can definitely not be Dandi Swamis. Regarding bhakti, Madhusudana Saraswati says : Duality is Bondage before MOKSHA, and after Realization it is wisdom ! The imaginary duality of BHAKTI is sweeter than even Non- duality! This may be especially interesting to Vaj who believes that MMY invented Bhagavati Chetana. Nothing could be further from truth! - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
[FairfieldLife] Fear disguised as wisdom (was Re: Levitation on youtube)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's you who got it wrong Jim-bitch. Actually, Jim prefers his fuller title, Brahman-bitch.
[FairfieldLife] Yoomba the instant Cross-mail Chat
Page 11 All-chatting-calling e-mail is here Special Correspondent Bangalore: A year-old U.S.-based Internet application developer has just released a tool that significantly pushes the envelope of seamless, global communication. Yoombas offering of the same name, allows any one with an e-mail address to contact any other e-mail addressee ... and with a click of the mouse, convert the off-line contact into an instant chat based on text messages or even a live voice call. The beauty of Yoomba lies in its simplicity: Well-known e-mail services such as GMail, YahooMail or MSN offer instant communication modes like live chat but they work only within the mail group. That means GMail can chat with GMail only. And Net telephone applications such as Skype also work within closed groups. Now, we are offered a tool that bypasses the administration of individual e-mail services and allows one to chat instantly or talk, as one would on the telephone, with any other e-mail address owner, using what is known as peer-to-peer networking. The tool is a free service from www.yoomba.com and by just entering your e-mail ID at the site, you initiate action to receive a key for the download which takes less than five minutes at typical connection speeds in India. Once installed, you can activate all e-mail accounts and make them Yoomba-enabled. Of course, you must invest in a head-phone-microphone combo (which costs a couple of hundred rupees) and connect it to your PC if you want to use Yoomba to make telephone calls. Invitation The first time that you try to call or instant-chat with another e-mail address, Yoomba will send an e-mail invitation inviting the recipient to install the software. Once your friend does that you are all set. Just clicking on the phone icon besides the e-mail ID in your address book, sets off a very realistic ring tone at both ends... and the two parties are talking to each other! When this correspondent tried it out with a few friends the quality was excellent. You can also switch to the loudspeakers of your PC or use a built-in mike. Yoomba is so simple, anyone from age 7 to 70 can be up and running with the tool in minutes. It allows you to invite all the people on your regular mailing list to join in. But you need to use this feature with some care, otherwise you will be sending out spam to a lot of angry e-mailers! At the global launch of the product on Friday (Indian time) Yoomba founder-Chief Executive Elad Hemar is reported to have said that he planned to keep the service free for now and make money through advertisements. Yoomba is a compelling application that one hopes no one will throttle it at birth. The Hindu - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Yoomba the instant Cross-mail Chat
If you're an early user, you have already infected all the people on your email contact list: http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/071307-yoomba.html People who try stuff like this without checking out the security ramifications are idiots. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Page 11 All-chatting-calling e-mail is here Special Correspondent Bangalore: A year-old U.S.-based Internet application developer has just released a tool that significantly pushes the envelope of seamless, global communication. Yoomba's offering of the same name, allows any one with an e-mail address to contact any other e-mail addressee ... and with a click of the mouse, convert the off-line contact into an instant chat based on text messages or even a live voice call. The beauty of Yoomba lies in its simplicity: Well-known e-mail services such as GMail, YahooMail or MSN offer instant communication modes like live chat but they work only within the mail group. That means GMail can chat with GMail only. And Net telephone applications such as Skype also work within closed groups. Now, we are offered a tool that bypasses the administration of individual e-mail services and allows one to chat instantly or talk, as one would on the telephone, with any other e-mail address owner, using what is known as peer-to-peer networking. The tool is a free service from www.yoomba.com and by just entering your e-mail ID at the site, you initiate action to receive a key for the download which takes less than five minutes at typical connection speeds in India. Once installed, you can activate all e-mail accounts and make them Yoomba-enabled. Of course, you must invest in a head-phone-microphone combo (which costs a couple of hundred rupees) and connect it to your PC if you want to use Yoomba to make telephone calls. Invitation The first time that you try to call or instant-chat with another e-mail address, Yoomba will send an e-mail invitation inviting the recipient to install the software. Once your friend does that you are all set. Just clicking on the phone icon besides the e-mail ID in your address book, sets off a very realistic ring tone at both ends... and the two parties are talking to each other! When this correspondent tried it out with a few friends the quality was excellent. You can also switch to the loudspeakers of your PC or use a built-in mike. Yoomba is so simple, anyone from age 7 to 70 can be up and running with the tool in minutes. It allows you to invite all the people on your regular mailing list to join in. But you need to use this feature with some care, otherwise you will be sending out spam to a lot of angry e-mailers! At the global launch of the product on Friday (Indian time) Yoomba founder-Chief Executive Elad Hemar is reported to have said that he planned to keep the service free for now and make money through advertisements. Yoomba is a compelling application that one hopes no one will throttle it at birth. The Hindu - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] What happens towards the end of the journey
Come find the Beauty life has to Offer Be a Great Existence - Namaste Guru-ji, Namaste and OM Namaste and Great Day * I am not posting this directly to the Message Board, as this one is unsure if it would be a hinderance or a value to those fresh in the path. So, will let you make that call. G oh - this one is most beneficial - it is honest and is indeed what comes up along the way. Nothing remains hidden - that will not be revealed. This is the path of the Mystic - and one that needs be understood as much as is possible by those undertaking it. St John of the Cross passed this way - Theresa of Liseaux passed this way. There have been many that passed this way. * The past couple of weeks I have felt a deep fear bubbling under the surface. For the most part, I have tried to just walk through it, breathe through it and not feed it. However, the last two days it has not relented and faded into the background, so it most certainly needs to be faced. This has led to some deep introspection, while not liberating in itself, most certainly honest and necessary to acknowledge. Gthis comes and as one starts to deconstruct it looms large. This indeed takes place. * When this path was stumbled upon a little over a year ago, fear was immediate. Fear of what is happening to me, fear of insanity, death, some unknown demon or illness. Then, after learning of what this path was, there was fear of God, Life, karma, birth, death, rebirth, sins, ego, EVERYTHING. Slowly, this led way to excitement and intrigue. G yes - a big part of this path brings to the surface all the fears that have driven us. This is something that is important to understand. * This excitement and intrigue led into self inquiry and releasing hold after hold and hurt after hurt that had been carried around for so many years. G am not sure you are engaging in the type of Self Enquiry which is meant when i use that term. Here what self enquiry is - is to look at all aspects termed *me* and then start to delve deeply and whatever is transient in nature disregard so that one deconstructs the holds and when enough is broken through then there is nothing to hold one from being pulled into Absolute.Such as the body - is the body unchanging ? take it apart bit by bit. Until it no longer carries it's hold and charge. The Unchanging Absolute is what is being sought not the aspects of Shakti. So we pare away at the aspects Until Absolute pulls one beyond the catches. If you take away a finger is there still an I AM. This is a process of taking away the coverings layer by layer. After the body then one looks deeply at the mind - what is it ? Looking that the thinking process and how emotions are connected and that these are also transient in nature and therefore cannot be the Absolute Unchanging Self. - We keep digging until this also deconstructs. Eventually we will through meditation be drawn into Absolute and this will leave no doubt and whatever remained as ignorance Will at this point be swept away and Pure Awareness and Realization will remain. For there will be no doubt as to God - Absolute - and the fears will no longer have anything to run on. For it is KNOWN that we are This Unchanging Eternal IS. Then we come back into Life as This Unchanging Eternal IS is Pure Life. We come back into Shakti (aka) the seen and transient realm - and it now morphs into the Fragrance of God. And we begin to really Live. For suffering is over - illusion is broken - we are at Peace Knowing the Truth of Existence. * This led way into feeling free, compassion, understanding, forgiveness and gratefulness. But there was something underneath that was never acknowledged through this whole year and this has now brought this deep fear. G yes also this can take place. *Specialness. I honestly believe, for myself, that had it not been the need and desire to be someone better, become a better soul, give the ones I love more, try to help save / change the world, be one of God's chosen ones, become Enlightened . just be special (while not directly acknowledged), this one would have never taken a step forward. Gyes this can be a driving point. hahahahahaha But then one comes to the door and one finds out quite clearly that egos are not allowed in. They can peer in from the doorway and get glimpses. They can get tastes. BUT in order to enter in fully one has to traverse what is termed the ego death - it seems scary - frightening - like we will cease to exist for eternity. It is ONLY when it takes place and we are out the other side that the game is uncovered - the ego is a shadow and only a reflection. What relief - What Joy - where there was once terror NOW only celebration remains. * What ego would willingly walk into its own *death*? This one read book after book, posting after posting, had experience after experience that
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] .. the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! .. to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the case. The thwarting involved is based on introducing/enhancing the sense of duality and element of amnesia of who you really are. The Illuminati conspiracy to keep humanity enslaved indefinitely does not exclusively involve incarnated entities. God can dissolve creation at any time he chooses as creation is nothing but a dream in the mind of God. If you really believe this, why this statement? The path to remembering who you are is the path of Dharma or Righteousness, that is to come into alignment with the laws of nature which are carrying all things to ultimate perfection thru evolution. Or, like you said...remember who you are, a spark of the almighty. There is no path! There are no laws! The concept of laws and paths are part of the illusion! As si the notion of a state of perfection, ultimate or not, in the relative! More precisely, the belief in them as requirements for spiritual evolution is a particular subtype of illusion handtailored by the Illumanity for controlling audiences who have somehow glimpsed that there is more to life than meets the eyes and would like to get bail out of the illusion pronto. Given your belief that God can terminate His/Her dream at any moment why don't you just do that and wake up from your dream - right here and right now? It is who you are! Isn't it? The essence of everything that exists, ever has existed and ever will exist!
[FairfieldLife] Joost the Internet TV
Sci Tech IT TRENDS Tomorrow's television today? TV, as we know it, is being challenged by multiple technologies NIKLAS ZENNSTROM is a Swede. Janus Friis is Danish. The two inventor-entrepreneurs first came together in 2000 to create the compelling Internet peer-to-peer file sharing technology known as Kazaa. It was controversial. The music companies came down like a ton of bricks on the company that offered Kazaa, accusing it of encouraging piracy. Cool tool By then Zennstrom and Friis had sold Kazaa to an Australian outfit called Sharman but over 4 million 'satisfied' users had downloaded the cool music exchange tool. In 2003, the Scandinavian duo came up with their second inspired idea: an easy way of making cheap telephone calls from PC to PC via the Internet, which they called Skype. The free software was downloaded by over 170 million users, many of whom went on to use a paid version which allowed one to call any telephone including land lines or mobiles. In 2005, the auction site e-Bay bought Skype from its creators for $ 2.6 billion. Compelling idea What do you do with that sort of money? If you are Niklas and Janus, you plough most of it into your next invention. They have just done it. It is called Joost (pronounced `juiced') and it may transform forever, the way we receive and watch television. The idea is so compelling that within days of announcing their offering, they received a further infusion of $ 45 million from 5 investors last week, including major US-based TV andmovie players like CBS and Viacom. This is how it works: If you go to the Joost web page (www.joost.com ) you will see an invitation to download the Joost beta (Friends edition) by simply giving your name and email address. Attractive menu The software reaches your mailbox within seconds. It works on all PCs running Windows XP, with a processor 500 MHz or faster, 512 MB of RAM memory, 48 MB of video memory and the version 9.0 or later of DirectX. Once installed, Joost opens an attractive menu, which offers over 100 TV channels to view. These include select programming from MTV, CNN, Sony Pictures, library of feature films, a number of children's channels... the list keeps growing as more and more mainstream terrestrial and satellite TV content providers join the queue of those who want to be seen on Joost. Already there are a number of interactive features you can rate a programme or chat with friends about it while watching which go beyond what most of us can do with our TV sets. What is the commercial model? All these TV content players who are offering their programmes to Joost will share the on-site advertising: the ads will not intrude too much at less than 3 minutes to every programme hour. What makes all this viable? It is the increasing availability of broadband speeds for the Internet. Thanks to BSNL's bold initiative, and the domino effect it is having on the private providers, many Indian viewers already enjoy the Net access speeds which will allow them to sign up for the free Joost service and enjoy reasonably smooth streaming TV quality right now. Joost may be compelling but it is not the only bright idea knocking around in the television space today. All the new technology directions, have one thing in common: They exploit the Internet what is known as IP TV or Internet Protocol TV. Only weeks ago, Apple, makers of the iconic iPod music player, unveiled Apple TV, a small box which in essence, was a 40 GB hard disk with a wireless connection and a stripped down version of the Mac OS X operating system. Streaming content Hooked to your TV on one hand and an Internet connection on the other, it allowed you to stream content from an ITunes library on the Net to the TV or play movies or music you may have saved on the hard disk. A similar approach has been used by WalMart and Amazon in the U.S., which allow paid users to download movie content to be played on their PCs or TV. Two other approaches There are two other current approaches to harnessing the ubiquity of Internet to extend the reach of TV. SlingBox, a small tuner-Net device, when attached to a TV set, allows one to `shift' the place where you can watch its content (including Cable TV channels), to up to four other devices PC or mobile that could well be on another continent... thanks to the Internet Protocol. Another device launched late last year is Pinnacle PC TV To Go... which helps place-and-time-shift the content on one's TV, by wirelessly linking its box. Interestingly the $ 250 Pinnacle device that was launched in the U.S. this year (it has just come to India) is based on technology created by Indian brains at Monsoon Multimedia and known here under the name `Hava.' SlingBox too was crafted by Indian engineers at the Bangalore end of SlingMedia, the parent company.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Sounds to me as if several people are buying into the pre-publication memes being spread by Dan Brown's publicists to pave the way for his next best seller. :-) To follow up, here's some information from Wikipedia. I just think it's hilarious that people like some of the folks who are so full of fear on this group are working themselves up into a full-fledged obsession based on the work of *publicists* who are spreading memes to hype the sales of an upcoming book. :-) Uh-huh. Except that folks have been engrossed/obsessed with these memes for far longer than Dan Brown. Sorry to disappoint, but he didn't invent this group of conspiracy theories any more than he did those about Jesus and the Magdalene. *You* may be reading about this U.S. Freemasons stuff for the first time from Brown's publicists, but you're a bit behind the curve. Oh, and besides the post hoc propter hoc fallacy, you picked the wrong putdown. Conspiracy theories appeal to folks not because they're afraid but because they like to feel they're in on a big secret.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no path! There are no laws! The concept of laws and paths are part of the illusion! As is the notion of a state of perfection, ultimate or not, in the relative! The trick is to dispel the illusion, not just by denial of its existence but by un-entanglement of the jiva/soul with it! Mere denial is not enough, the residual samskaras (impressions in the mind) are deeply rooted in the subconscious. Awareness of the one 'Reality' (God), at those subtle levels alone, dispels the notion of duality/illusion, not till then.
[FairfieldLife] Qigong tummo(sp and stuff?) and (qigong) levitation(partial)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6UTGkC73GE
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Sounds to me as if several people are buying into the pre-publication memes being spread by Dan Brown's publicists to pave the way for his next best seller. :-) To follow up, here's some information from Wikipedia. I just think it's hilarious that people like some of the folks who are so full of fear on this group are working themselves up into a full-fledged obsession based on the work of *publicists* who are spreading memes to hype the sales of an upcoming book. :-) Uh-huh. Except that folks have been engrossed/obsessed with these memes for far longer than Dan Brown. Sorry to disappoint, but he didn't invent this group of conspiracy theories any more than he did those about Jesus and the Magdalene. *You* may be reading about this U.S. Freemasons stuff for the first time from Brown's publicists, but you're a bit behind the curve. Oh, and besides the post hoc propter hoc fallacy, you picked the wrong putdown. Conspiracy theories appeal to folks not because they're afraid but because they like to feel they're in on a big secret. Welcome back, Judy. I see you had a nice, relaxing long weekend away, and that it did wonders for you. :-) Speaking of which, you may have noticed that in your absence, a couple of people have posted about the spiritual (or at the very least, personally inspiring) experiences they had over the same period. Marek waxed eloquent about the bliss of surfing, and I expounded upon the bliss of wandering around in the dark. :-) Surely *you* must have some inspiring stories to tell of your own long weekend away. I thus pose two questions, which, being the intellectually honest person you are, you will answer and not snip, right? * You left town for your long weekend on Thursday, and thus had at least three full days away from home, right? * So. Marek's experience only required a few hours of surfing one morning; I managed to have mine in the half hour when all the lights were off in Sauve. You had at least 72 hours. During that period, what experiences did you have of a spiritual nature, or that just were inspiring for you personally? Surely there must have been a few, for someone who has been developing their consciousness via TM and the TM- siddhi program for all this time. Please share them with us. Then we might believe the stuff you've said about how effective TM is at developing consciousness in its long-term practitioners.
[FairfieldLife] Let's Destroy the RIAA
Today may well be known as the day the music died. At least on the Internet. For those that don't know the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) through it's organization SoundExchange starting today will levy excessive royalty rates on music played on Internet radio. This especially is biased against the small operators as the big boys get to pay far less. The crazy thing about this is that the rates are charged per listener. The details of this you can find here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/12/court_denies_internet_radio_stay_petition/ BTW, isn't it interesting we have to go to a UK source for the story? What does this mean? Well for one thing if you listen to live internet broadcasts like I do of the local Air America Radio station like I the simple link that used to work in VLC on Ubuntu stopped working this last week. Why, well that link was replaced with a much more complex link with an authentication code which is apparently issued per listener and expires after a certain amount of time. So if your old links to your old Internet radio station have stopped working that is probably one reason why. BTW, the reason I have to listen to the local AAR station via stream is that they are at a particular frequency that gets stompted with the computer gear in this room whereas in my kitchen the radio brings the station in okay. So how do we destroy the RIAA? I am a musician and frequently record things. I've been thinking of posting a lot of little compositions online using the Creative Commons license that small operators can use for bumper music free. This to especially piss off the RIAA. The only think I would ask is to give me credit for the music so I if at all anything became popular I might make some money off of it through appearances. Maybe other musicians here might want to follow suite. If the RIAA comes after me then it is showdown time. Before you start sobbing for musicians most don't make money off the payments being made unless they actually wrote the song. In some cases musicians hungry to become stars and ignorant of hour the recording industry is run by hoods sign away their rights and only the publishers make money on the songs. In many cases though the musicians on the album may be credited for the tune they may not have written the tune and instead the producers purchased them from a publisher with rights to use a different credit. There are actually quite a few pop tunes that were written by amateurs who sold their song to a publisher literally for a song (i.e. $500) and a staff musician/lyricist polished it up. The U.S. Copyright Royalty Board is from Mars as far as I'm concerned. They were part of this mess. A Cambridge researcher has posted a paper that says the optimal lifespan for a copyright should only be 14 years. http://www.rufuspollock.org/economics/papers/optimal_copyright.pdf Once we destroy the RIAA maybe we can target the MPAA. After all HD video gear is getting cheaper and cheaper so why not make lots of free feature films available. Maybe the bottom line here is that capitalism no longer works in this world. Maybe it's time to bury this tired old economic system. BTW, is everyone else who downloads this list to email finding this list only is downloading slowly? Must be the NSA. All my other lists are coming down on speed. I have a 6 mbps connection and FFL is coming down like dial-up when it usually just zips down too.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
The trick is to dispel the illusion, not just by denial of its existence but by un-entanglement of the jiva/soul with it! Mere denial is not enough, the residual samskaras (impressions in the mind) are deeply rooted in the subconscious. Awareness of the one 'Reality' (God), at those subtle levels alone, dispels the notion of duality/illusion, not till then. Hello, I pick out some of the posts from my other group that I think are really deep, then pass them along here. The last post is watching a one to one exchange with what looks like one having profound and fast changes now, and the guidance that is administered as is needed. I have followed the journey of that disciple since she came on line one year ago, and then just took Diksha in Arizona last week. Swami G drove 2 full days to go out and give the diksha. Anyway, Swami G said the interest is not so much about weather of not Maharishi found some loophole and is whatever he is ( I am quite sure he says on Larry King- I am a purusha, sanyasi if you know the word, a monk ) The interest is in the state of the disciples in any movement. If they are in confusion, or are being mislead by unscrupulous Gurus, as a compassionate offer, Swami G is there to clear the air for those interested in entering this path. This path, as was just pointed out in the last post is for the mystic, and for those that want Realization above all else. Actually, anyone contacting Swami G, if the inquiry is sincere and honest, it is responded to, actually it may also get a response if it is insincere and dishonest, but knowing the way the path is here, the response will be to tell you straight forward- you have come here without integrity, in a dishonest and insincere way. There are loads of movements out there, with disciples left in major confusion and hurt, as a result of sometimes outright abuse and dishonesty on a part of the Guru. So, it is my interest hobby to inquire ( not so much Swami G)- hey!- did you hear what I just heard? This post where MMY describing how he felt caged up all these years do to poor vastu. This in itself caught my eyebrows, but now putting some of these other things together- I put it out, maybe someone has heard an explaination from MMY. However, I was a TM teacher and of reasonable intelligence and never heard these things answered properly, and actually I didn't even know what questions to ask at that time. I did post MMY talking about Guru Dev, and it is the closest thing that I have heard so far to MMY answering questions about this tradtion thing. The excuse is he must of known but it wasn't brought up so time wouldn't be wasted planning. While this is a fun response and it drew laughter, it is simply a state of confusion to not have these things cleared up. Since MMY has not given an answer that I know of yet, I pass along again the comment that Swami G made- the north had Guri prevelent as one of the dasnamis, and there would have been no objection for a non Braman to take sanyas, for which he would then be a sanyasi, and then he would wear orange. This is my understanding. If this is such a small issue, why did Guru Dev wear orange? Why did Guru dev officially take sanyas? If it is such a small issue about the Guru declaring the disciple enlightened and then giving charge to that one to be a guru, why did Yogananada do it? why to many Guru's make this point as being so significant? I think most gurus that have done this would say yes, this is the way it goes and yes, all this is very significant. Tanmay
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Sounds to me as if several people are buying into the pre-publication memes being spread by Dan Brown's publicists to pave the way for his next best seller. :-) To follow up, here's some information from Wikipedia. I just think it's hilarious that people like some of the folks who are so full of fear on this group are working themselves up into a full-fledged obsession based on the work of *publicists* who are spreading memes to hype the sales of an upcoming book. :-) Uh-huh. Except that folks have been engrossed/obsessed with these memes for far longer than Dan Brown. Sorry to disappoint, but he didn't invent this group of conspiracy theories any more than he did those about Jesus and the Magdalene. *You* may be reading about this U.S. Freemasons stuff for the first time from Brown's publicists, but you're a bit behind the curve. Oh, and besides the post hoc propter hoc fallacy, you picked the wrong putdown. Conspiracy theories appeal to folks not because they're afraid but because they like to feel they're in on a big secret. Welcome back, Judy. I see you had a nice, relaxing long weekend away, and that it did wonders for you. :-) Speaking of which, you may have noticed that in your absence, a couple of people have posted about the spiritual (or at the very least, personally inspiring) experiences they had over the same period. Marek waxed eloquent about the bliss of surfing, and I expounded upon the bliss of wandering around in the dark. :-) However, the bliss of wandering around in the dark didn't seem to stop you from ending your account of it with a putdown, nor did all that bliss keep you from making another nine posts containing putdowns. Only one of your posts so far this posting week hasn't involved a putdown. Last week, at least 27 of your posts were putdowns. Surely *you* must have some inspiring stories to tell of your own long weekend away. I thus pose two questions, which, being the intellectually honest person you are, you will answer and not snip, right? Actually, responding or not responding would have nothing to do with intellectual honesty. It would have to do with whether I feel like telling spiritually inspiring stories about myself. * You left town for your long weekend on Thursday, and thus had at least three full days away from home, right? Nope. For your own peace of mind, I'd suggest you not attempt to determine when I leave and when I come back on the basis of when I post. I know it's a matter of some anxiety for you to know when I'm not going to be around, but it would really be better if you tried to overcome it and just, you know, take it as it comes. I'll tell you this much: The two situations outside meditation in which I most often have deep experiences of my spiritual nature are when I'm out on the ocean, and when I'm listening to music. Each time I've been away this summer, I've had the opportunity to be in both those situations, and each time their spiritual potential was fulfilled.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Let's Destroy the RIAA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today may well be known as the day the music died. At least on the Internet. For those that don't know the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) through it's organization SoundExchange starting today will levy excessive royalty rates on music played on Internet radio. Actually, there was a last-minute reprieve of sorts as the result of a major public lobbying effort, and negotiations on proposals that will be less harmful are continuing: http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/news/2007/07/webcasters_face_mu sic http://tinyurl.com/3eyvy8
[FairfieldLife] Vaj - read it and weep (was Re: Maharishi on Brahman)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sniparoonie But maybe that's just me... That's right, babe, it's just you. You *need* TMers to be jealous because it makes you feel Important. Therefore, in your increasingly reality-disconnected mind, they must *be* jealous. You thought you saw someone levitate, what, 20 years ago now? You make a big deal of it over and over, as if it were the highlight of your entire life. We aren't wildly impressed, and you think that's because we're *jealous*? Get real. And while you're at it, be here now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: * You left town for your long weekend on Thursday, and thus had at least three full days away from home, right? Nope. For your own peace of mind, I'd suggest you not attempt to determine when I leave and when I come back on the basis of when I post. I know it's a matter of some anxiety for you to know when I'm not going to be around, but it would really be better if you tried to overcome it and just, you know, take it as it comes. I had no interest in your spiritual experiences, dearie. I was just wondering how far you'd go with this pretense of long weekends away from the com- puter. This one wasn't much longer than a usual weekend, because you posted to the TM-Free blog Friday afternoon, and here you are back on Sunday afternoon, still in the same old mindstate. You could, after all, just *admit* to having a compulsive posting problem. We'd understand. In fact, I think we already do. :-) You might also consider taking some *real* long weekends away. These pretend long weekends don't seem to be doing you all that much good.
[FairfieldLife] Is There an Artificial God?
A gently mind-bending address to Digital Biota 2, the Second Annual Conference on Cyberbiology, in 1998 by the late Douglas Adams: http://www.biota.org/people/douglasadams/ Excerpts: ...Money is a completely fictitious entity, but it's very powerful in our world; we each have wallets, which have got notes in them, but what can those notes do? You can't breed them, you can't stir fry them, you can't live in them, there's absolutely nothing you can do with them that's any use, other than exchange them with each other - and as soon as we exchange them with each other all sots of powerful things happen, because it's a fiction that we've all subscribed toIf we were all to vanish, money would simply vanish too. Money has no meaning outside ourselves, it is something that we have created that has a powerful shaping effect on the world, because it's something we all subscribe to ...The society of Bali is...all defined by the church; they have very peculiar calendars and a very peculiar set of customs and rituals, which are precisely defined and, oddly enough, they are fantastically good at being very, very productive with their rice harvest. In the 70s, people came in and noticed that the rice harvest was determined by the temple calendar. It seemed to be totally nonsensical, so they said, 'Get rid of all this, we can help you make your rice harvest much, much more productive than even you're, very successfully, doing at the moment. Use these pesticides, use this calendar, do this, that and the other'. So they started and for two or three years the rice production went up enormously, but the whole predator/prey/pest balance went completely out of kilter. Very shortly, the rice harvest plummeted again and the Balinese said, 'Screw it, we're going back to the temple calendar!' and they reinstated what was there before and it all worked again absolutely perfectly ...As we become more and more scientifically literate, it's worth remembering that the fictions with which we previously populated our world may have some function that it's worth trying to understand and preserve the essential components of, rather than throwing out the baby with the bath water; because even though we may not accept the reasons given for them being here in the first place, it may well be that there are good practical reasons for them, or something like them, to be there
[FairfieldLife] Right hand (at least) slightly sucks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yud4_gbHYHsNR=1
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: * You left town for your long weekend on Thursday, and thus had at least three full days away from home, right? Nope. For your own peace of mind, I'd suggest you not attempt to determine when I leave and when I come back on the basis of when I post. I know it's a matter of some anxiety for you to know when I'm not going to be around, but it would really be better if you tried to overcome it and just, you know, take it as it comes. I had no interest in your spiritual experiences, dearie. I was just wondering how far you'd go with this pretense of long weekends away from the com- puter. This one wasn't much longer than a usual weekend, because you posted to the TM-Free blog Friday afternoon, and here you are back on Sunday afternoon, still in the same old mindstate. guffaw Barry's so anxiety-ridden about when I'm going to be around, he's checking up on me at TMFree! And he was having orgasms at the thought that he was going to catch me lying about how long I was away. But then, when I fouled up his plans by telling the truth--that I hadn't been away for 72 hours--in response to his lie, he lied *again*, about when I had posted on TMFree, in an attempt to recoup *something* from his failed ploy. How much more screwed up can Barry get? I noted at the outset that my long weekends were going to be *occasional*. This one wasn't a long one, although I did get away for a while (and Barry doesn't even know when *that* was). As I've already explained to you, Barry, you are NOT GOING TO KNOW when I'm leaving or coming back. I may even take days off in the middle of the week. And you're just going to have to live with it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: There is no path! There are no laws! The concept of laws and paths are part of the illusion! As is the notion of a state of perfection, ultimate or not, in the relative! The trick is to dispel the illusion, not just by denial of its existence but by un-entanglement of the jiva/soul with it! Mere denial is not enough, the residual samskaras (impressions in the mind) are deeply rooted in the subconscious. Awareness of the one 'Reality' (God), at those subtle levels alone, dispels the notion of duality/illusion, not till then. To describe realization as something at the end of a path is describing it from within a state of illusion in a - per definition - deluded way. The reasons for persising with such a description can be several. It can, for example, be the expression of a sincere seeker dong his or her best to describe what they see but keeps thinking they have not yet achieved. It can also be the description insisted on by someone who seeks to thwart attempts of immediate, effortless and spontaneous self-realization by just remembering who they are. Which is your excuse for putting up roadblocks?
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] There definitely is an inner parallel to awakening. In it's eastern sense, it would refer to the states of consciousness known as the arising of mandalas and the arising of letters. More like the arising of the whiff of bullshit.. === CAVEAT LECTOR === After an exchange of postings a few months ago it became evident that the poster calling him- or herself Vaj is a high-ranking Freemason and possibly an Illuminati agent active on this list. For more details cf posting: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/132902 === END CAVEAT LECTOR ===
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is There an Artificial God?
The Illuminati certainly wants us to believe in one of their Gods. And perhaps most important about fictitions thing money, with which the Illuminati keeps individuals and nations under a rapidly tightening leash: money did not come about by accident - they are a carefully crafted tool honed over many centuries. Quiz: Whats does JFK and Abe Lincon have in common? Just before their respective assassinations they stated their clear intention to cut the ties of USA with the so-called Federal Reserve and have the US government start issuing it's own interest-free money. Today, we have been hypnotizied to believe that having an independent central bank is part and parcel of a democratic system. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A gently mind-bending address to Digital Biota 2, the Second Annual Conference on Cyberbiology, in 1998 by the late Douglas Adams: http://www.biota.org/people/douglasadams/ Excerpts: ...Money is a completely fictitious entity, but it's very powerful in our world; we each have wallets, which have got notes in them, but what can those notes do? You can't breed them, you can't stir fry them, you can't live in them, there's absolutely nothing you can do with them that's any use, other than exchange them with each other - and as soon as we exchange them with each other all sots of powerful things happen, because it's a fiction that we've all subscribed toIf we were all to vanish, money would simply vanish too. Money has no meaning outside ourselves, it is something that we have created that has a powerful shaping effect on the world, because it's something we all subscribe to ...The society of Bali is...all defined by the church; they have very peculiar calendars and a very peculiar set of customs and rituals, which are precisely defined and, oddly enough, they are fantastically good at being very, very productive with their rice harvest. In the 70s, people came in and noticed that the rice harvest was determined by the temple calendar. It seemed to be totally nonsensical, so they said, 'Get rid of all this, we can help you make your rice harvest much, much more productive than even you're, very successfully, doing at the moment. Use these pesticides, use this calendar, do this, that and the other'. So they started and for two or three years the rice production went up enormously, but the whole predator/prey/pest balance went completely out of kilter. Very shortly, the rice harvest plummeted again and the Balinese said, 'Screw it, we're going back to the temple calendar!' and they reinstated what was there before and it all worked again absolutely perfectly ...As we become more and more scientifically literate, it's worth remembering that the fictions with which we previously populated our world may have some function that it's worth trying to understand and preserve the essential components of, rather than throwing out the baby with the bath water; because even though we may not accept the reasons given for them being here in the first place, it may well be that there are good practical reasons for them, or something like them, to be there
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on Yoga Sutras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An FYI for Trinity, (and anyone else) For those interested in how krishna-bhakta manifests in the consciousness of an advaita yogin, an excellent resource to read is MadhusUdana Saraswati's commentary on the Bhagavad Gita. He interweaves a word-for-word analysis of each Gita verse with many quotes and examples of text from the yogasutras, upanishads and brahmasutras. He wrote extraordinary bhakti text such as the Bhakti-Rasayana but these have not been translated yet. Dr. Lance Nelson, professor and chair of the religion department at UC-San Diego, told me in an email that he is planning to publish some of this material in a book but I haven't seen anything yet. The best translation is: Madhusudana Sarasvati Bhagavad-Gita: with the annotation Gudhartha-Dipika Translated by Swami Gambhirananda 1038 page quality hardback for $19.95 (a steal) published by Advaita AshramaThis book is available at: Vedanta Press and Catalog www.vedanta.com Thanks a lot. I'll be soon in India, and can get it may be from there, e.g. Ramakrishna Math in Madras, a very nice place.
[FairfieldLife] Now Bramananda saraswati- no longer Swami?
I was just talking with a friend who has been paying attention to the celebrations. He said this past Jan 12, Guru dev was not referred to as Swami, and he said this has been going on for a while. He then got into speculation why and said something must have happened with the Swamis. I asked him why MMY was not a Swami. This guy used to be with MMY alot. He said he heard that same thing- MMY was not a Braman so couldn't do it. He said he did not hear that from MMY, but other peope. I mentioned that the nothern seat is prevelent with Giri and this would have been accepted. He answered that Giri means mountain- that was the end of that conversation.
[FairfieldLife] 'Trouble in Paradise...'
:Pope Benedict, the Catholic Church is Defective! Ringgold, GA 30736 July 14 2007 Pope Benedict, the Catholic Church is Defective! Don Boys, Ph.D. Pope Benedict has stirred the religious pot in recent days by declaring that other churches are defective. Lets see now; that was spoken by the leader of a cultic church that professes to have been started by Peter; has murdered millions of people who disagreed with them (taking their property for the Church); has been known for centuries as a hotbed for sexual deviates; has been teaching numerous heresies while claiming biblical authority; and has raised billions of dollars by selling religious positions and get out of hell cardsfor the right price. All that plus teaching that the Popes pronouncements are infallible! And other churches are defective! What people and groups in their right minds would want to go back into such a corrupt system? Because of Benedicts declaration, world headlines screamed: If it isn't Roman Catholic then it's not a proper Church, pope tells Christians, London Times; You are not real churches, Pope says to Protestants, Sydney Morning Herald; Pope is Catholic, but is not the antichrist, The Age (Australia); Pope's message disappoints other faiths, Arizona Republic; Lust for power, the Australian; Only one church, Kansas City Star; Document reasserts other denominations cant bring salvation, Chicago Tribune; Vatican's `true Church' claim may stoke Christian row, Toronto Star; and Pope: So, you're not Catholic? Then you're not in true Church, WorldNetDaily. Yes, the Pope fouled his nest; now let us see if he backs off as the heat is applied. I would like to know if the Pope thinks his wicked predecessors were infallible in their pronounce-ments? How could so many infallible popes make so many mistakes? Pope Stephen VI (896) had the dead pope Formosus (891-6) tried and dragged through Rome and thrown in the Tiber River. Pope Hadrian II (867) declared civil marriage valid; however, Pope Pius VII (1800-23) declared it to be invalid. Pope Eugene IV (1431) had Joan of Arc burned alive as a witch, but later Pope Benedict IV in 1919 declared her to be a saint. The popes have obviously not been on the same page. Just this year we learned that the Pope has decided that Limbo does not and has never existed! That means every Catholic cleric that has preached Limbo (where unbaptized babies reside and good people went before the Cross) has been preaching a lie! Where is the infallibility? Popes Innocent III, Gregory XI, Clement IV, Hadrian VI, and Paul IV all disagreed with papal infallibility. I am not a Protestant but a Bible believing Baptist. While Bible believers have not always been called Baptists, they have held to Baptist principles: salvation by faith ALONE (baptism, good works, tithing recommended but not required for salvation); baptism by emersion of converts old enough to repent and accept Christ as Savior; soul liberty; separation of church and state (but not God and state), independence of local churches, etc. Those people have existed for 2000 years and the Roman Church identified them as heretics while the leaders of the Roman Church were the heretics! Thousands of those Bible believing heretics were tortured and killed by the Roman Church. Some Catholics still try to justify those killings! Question: Since it is a fact that the Roman Church killed hundreds of thousands of heretics such as Anabaptists, Hussites, Lollards, and Waldensians that they now consider separated brethren, I want to know how Catholics deal with all that blood on their hands? Moreover, if the Catholic Church was wrong in torturing and killing those people, why should we think the Church is right today? Nowhere in Scripture do you find any church having authority over any other churches. It was natural that smaller churches in the hinterlands should look to the church at Rome since the whole world had looked to Rome for centuries as the epicenter of world power, influence, finance, fashion, and religion. So when churches needed money, a pastor, or whatever, they naturally looked to the church in Rome. Moreover, as time passed, the pastor at Rome took more and more authority to himself. For hundreds of years the pastor at Rome was given preeminence but never authority or jurisdiction. Then he assumed control of all churches, hence the Roman Catholic Church. I have love and respect for Roman Catholics but disagreement, disdain, and disgust for the Roman system. It is still the whore of Revelation and is anti-Christian and
[FairfieldLife] Fear disguised as wisdom (was Re: Levitation on youtube)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: It's you who got it wrong Jim-bitch. Actually, Jim prefers his fuller title, Brahman-bitch. and high time to change yours, new morning, to good night:-)
[FairfieldLife] Fear disguised as wisdom (was Re: Levitation on youtube)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's you who got it wrong Jim-bitch. What a moron you are. Osho Rajneesh gave more than a hundred meditation techniques and tells the seeker to pick any one technique that suits him. Which is better.?? Now that you are enlightened do you eat mawmaw and take blowjobies.?? If you are so enlightened what the hell are doing on this fucking board.?? Why do you think you can address me this way, you stupid little prick? Fuck off and go do something else.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I had no interest in your spiritual experiences, dearie. I was just wondering how far you'd go with this pretense of long weekends away from the com- puter. This one wasn't much longer than a usual weekend, because you posted to the TM-Free blog Friday afternoon, and here you are back on Sunday afternoon, still in the same old mindstate. . . . And he was having orgasms at the thought that he was going to catch me lying about how long I was away. But then, when I fouled up his plans by telling the truth--that I hadn't been away for 72 hours--in response to his lie, he lied *again*, about when I had posted on TMFree, in an attempt to recoup *something* from his failed ploy. Now *that* is curious. I understand that Judy is pissed off that her pretense of spending weekends away from the computer is blown. But *why* on earth would she accuse *me* of lying about something that is right there on the TM-Free website, and so easily verifiable by anyone here? I noticed her comments today when browsing the site for the first time in a long while. (Hint: it's still boring.) She made two comments to TM-Free on Friday, one to the thread about Witnessing Sleep at 8:53 pm my time, which is 1:53pm her time if I'm not mistaken. And she made another comment to the Obama in Fairfield thread at 9:23pm my time, 2:23pm her time. Last I checked, both comments were made on Friday afternoon, just as I said. It does make me wonder about the sanity of someone who is willing to lie herself, *just* so that she can call someone (me) a liar one more time. I might suggest that if Judy doesn't apologize for this one, we might just have a psychopath on our hands. ( At the same time, I kinda hope she doesn't apologize, because I just can't *wait* to hear how she manages to justify this one. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on Yoga Sutras
Trinity, If you pay in rupees it may be even more of a steal. You then might have to join Pope Benedict's True Church when you get back so you can be properly confessed. ;-) Enjoy your trip and watch out for the nagas. empty (without the ness) t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An FYI for Trinity, (and anyone else) The best translation is: Madhusudana Sarasvati Bhagavad-Gita: with the annotation Gudhartha-Dipika Translated by Swami Gambhirananda 1038 page quality hardback for $19.95 (a steal) published by Advaita Ashrama This book is available at: Vedanta Press and Catalog www.vedanta.com Thanks a lot. I'll be soon in India, and can get it may be from there, e.g. Ramakrishna Math in Madras, a very nice place. - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
[FairfieldLife] VIDEO: Amma's darshan
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lwTAYeyv9Umode=relatedsearch=
[FairfieldLife] VIDEO: Shiva Manas Puja
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[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I had no interest in your spiritual experiences, dearie. I was just wondering how far you'd go with this pretense of long weekends away from the com- puter. This one wasn't much longer than a usual weekend, because you posted to the TM-Free blog Friday afternoon, and here you are back on Sunday afternoon, still in the same old mindstate. . . . And he was having orgasms at the thought that he was going to catch me lying about how long I was away. But then, when I fouled up his plans by telling the truth--that I hadn't been away for 72 hours--in response to his lie, he lied *again*, about when I had posted on TMFree, in an attempt to recoup *something* from his failed ploy. Now *that* is curious. I understand that Judy is pissed off that her pretense of spending weekends away from the computer is blown. Can't blow a nonexistent pretense, sorry. You've fantasized a pretense on my part (jealous of my long weekends, apparently), and you *thought* you were going to blow that fantasized pretense by asking me to confirm a length of time away that you knew wasn't accurate. Then you were going to point to the TMFree posts as proof that I was lying. But you failed, because I *don't* lie, and you exposed yourself once again as being fanatically--even maniacally-- obsessed with me and my posting habits. Again, Barry, you AREN'T GOING TO KNOW when I leave and when I return. And if you don't stop trying to puzzle it out, you're going to go round the bend. You're almost there already. But *why* on earth would she accuse *me* of lying about something that is right there on the TM-Free website, and so easily verifiable by anyone here? It sure is verifiable, but unfortunately it doesn't verify Barry's lie. I noticed her comments today when browsing the site for the first time in a long while. (Hint: it's still boring.) She made two comments to TM-Free on Friday, one to the thread about Witnessing Sleep at 8:53 pm my time, which is 1:53pm her time if I'm not mistaken. And she made another comment to the Obama in Fairfield thread at 9:23pm my time, 2:23pm her time. You're mistaken, both times. Last I checked, both comments were made on Friday afternoon, just as I said. Nope, Friday night, my time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: [snip] .. the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! .. to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the case. The thwarting involved is based on introducing/enhancing the sense of duality and element of amnesia of who you really are. The Illuminati conspiracy to keep humanity enslaved indefinitely does not exclusively involve incarnated entities. Jesus said, The Kingdom of Heaven is within, also, Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you. This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... And it is true, that there are many other entities, which are attracted to you, when you are angry, or in a state of despair, and other lower vibrational states... The people who commit suicide, or blow themselves up: these are people possessed with these lower vibrations... The weapons industry, the obsession with death, and destruction. The mocking of spirituality in the media. It is more than a few people controlling everything- we are all susceptible to the flu of fear and mind control... This so-called Illuminati conspiracy, I believe attempts to simplify everything into a neat black and white package, and being obsessed with conspiracy theory's is another way to keep you distracted with evil... So, the best thing to do is to stay in a spiritual clean place yourself; stay out of the muck, and mud, so to speak. There are ways to release negative energies, from your aura... It is all up to your intention. Ask, and ye shall receive
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
Emily Latella Never mind department. See below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I had no interest in your spiritual experiences, dearie. I was just wondering how far you'd go with this pretense of long weekends away from the com- puter. This one wasn't much longer than a usual weekend, because you posted to the TM-Free blog Friday afternoon, and here you are back on Sunday afternoon, still in the same old mindstate. . . . And he was having orgasms at the thought that he was going to catch me lying about how long I was away. But then, when I fouled up his plans by telling the truth--that I hadn't been away for 72 hours--in response to his lie, he lied *again*, about when I had posted on TMFree, in an attempt to recoup *something* from his failed ploy. Now *that* is curious. I understand that Judy is pissed off that her pretense of spending weekends away from the computer is blown. But *why* on earth would she accuse *me* of lying about something that is right there on the TM-Free website, and so easily verifiable by anyone here? I noticed her comments today when browsing the site for the first time in a long while. (Hint: it's still boring.) She made two comments to TM-Free on Friday, one to the thread about Witnessing Sleep at 8:53 pm my time, which is 1:53pm her time if I'm not mistaken. And she made another comment to the Obama in Fairfield thread at 9:23pm my time, 2:23pm her time. Last I checked, both comments were made on Friday afternoon, just as I said. Mea culpa. The mistake was mine. I assumed that the timestamps on TM-Free were like all my other timestamps, and adjusted to display in my time zone. They are not. They are in the time zone of the server, which I have to assume is on the East cost of the U.S. So her comments to TM-Free were *not* made on Friday afternoon, but on Friday night. And her comment that I was lying about when she posted makes sense because (wait for this), since my whole point was that she was...uh... prevaricating a bit about these long weekends away of hers, I wanted to insinuate that this one was even *longer* than it really was. Devious, nefarious person that I am, I wanted to create the impression that Judy had only been able to go away for her long weekend sometime after Friday afternoon, and not some- time after Friday *night*, as turns out to be the truth. Oh, the extent to which liars such as myself will stoop in order to make her look bad, eh? :-) :-) :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If it is such a small issue about the Guru declaring the disciple enlightened and then giving charge to that one to be a guru, why did Yogananada do it? why to many Guru's make this point as being so significant? Sat Gurus don't grow on trees, in this day and age you'd think so! MMY has never claimed to be a Sat Guru, his honesty is refreshing. Yet, he still offers an effective technique for Self Realization, although, at some point a Sat guru may step in and help a *sincere* devotee out, not till then. One must have very good karma to get the personal attention of a Sat Guru.there may not even be any on the planet as we speak, at least not in the west!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus said, The Kingdom of Heaven is within, also, Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you. This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... And it is true, that there are many other entities, which are attracted to you, when you are angry, or in a state of despair, and other lower vibrational states... The people who commit suicide, or blow themselves up: these are people possessed with these lower vibrations... The weapons industry, the obsession with death, and destruction. The mocking of spirituality in the media. It is more than a few people controlling everything- we are all susceptible to the flu of fear and mind control... This so-called Illuminati conspiracy, I believe attempts to simplify everything into a neat black and white package, and being obsessed with conspiracy theory's is another way to keep you distracted with evil... So, the best thing to do is to stay in a spiritual clean place yourself; stay out of the muck, and mud, so to speak. There are ways to release negative energies, from your aura... It is all up to your intention. Ask, and ye shall receive Can't argue with that.also, God helps those, who help themselves.
[FairfieldLife] 'Saudi's Obsession with Oil, Black Cubes and Death'
Saudis play big role in Iraqi insurgency BAGHDAD, July 15: While U.S. officials often blame Syria and Iran for fueling the insurgency in Iraq, the largest number of militants come from Saudi Arabia, it was reported. About 45 percent of all foreign fighters in Iraq are Sunni extremists from Saudi Arabia, with the remaining majority coming from Syria, Lebanon and North Africa, The Los Angeles Times reported Sunday. Almost half of the 135 foreigners in U.S. detention facilities in Iraq are from Saudi Arabia, said a senior U.S. military official who gave the statistics to The Times. Saudi fighters are believed to be responsible for more suicide bombings than any other nationality, the newspaper reported. In the last six months, suicide bombings have killed or injured nearly 4,000 Iraqis. At best, Saudi Arabia has been unable to keep its citizens from fueling the attacks in Iraq, the newspaper reported. At worst, Saudi officials share complicity in sending Sunni extremists to kill U.S. soldiers, Iraqi civilians and those in the Shiite-led government in Baghdad, the Times reported. --- UPI - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Devious, nefarious person that I am, I wanted to create the impression that Judy had only been able to go away for her long weekend sometime after Friday afternoon, and not some- time after Friday *night*, as turns out to be the truth. As I already pointed out to you, Barry, there's no way you can tell from my posts when I leave and when I return. What you claim above is *not* the truth.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
On Jul 15, 2007, at 4:49 PM, peterklutz wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] There definitely is an inner parallel to awakening. In it's eastern sense, it would refer to the states of consciousness known as the arising of mandalas and the arising of letters. More like the arising of the whiff of bullshit.. === CAVEAT LECTOR === After an exchange of postings a few months ago it became evident that the poster calling him- or herself Vaj is a high-ranking Freemason and possibly an Illuminati agent active on this list. Yes, I was actually busy manipulating the time-space continuum and world-events when you wrote!
[FairfieldLife] Sat Guru's growing on trees- defining the word Maharishi
Poster Billy: Sat Gurus don't grow on trees, in this day and age you'd think so! MMY has never claimed to be a Sat Guru, his honesty is refreshing. Yet, he still offers an effective technique for Self Realization, although, at some point a Sat guru may step in and help a *sincere* devotee out, not till then. One must have very good karma to get the personal attention of a Sat Guru.there may not even be any on the planet as we speak, at least not in the west!! Tanmay: For me a some point, there is going to be a leap of faith, probably for most. So here is what I have to go on regarding my own Guru because after that, then what does my Guru have to say... The line with my own Guru is Her SatGuru Rajiv is still in the body, still a SatGuru but not very available to most, and was appointed by PapaJi. Some of my Guru's disciples visited Rajiv under my Guru's instructions. PapaJi was apointed by Ramana Maharishi. Under Papaji were also GangaJi and others. Also, my Guru was tested with machines. At will and while conscious, only delta waves were seen. This is something seen in deep sleep, acording to my Guru ( I think I have this right). The one conducting the study did not know how to respond. Because of my own progress, the above is enough for me. On this basis, my leap of faith is accepting my Guru as Sat Guru for me, and it is a westerner living in the usa. One side thing- why would this be limited to Indians? God's design? I am not buying into that. Sat Guru's can be in any country, of any background. Based on what you have seen, unless this One is known, then there is going to have to be a leap of faith- do you see it that there may not be any Sat Guru's on the planet? OK I am going with what I said- then the next point about it is what my Guru has to say about unfolding enlightenment through your Guru- that they can take you only to where they are. Furthermore, I have seen a lot say I am not a Guru but this is a curious thing, as even if they say this, there are many that still consider them their Guru. Mother Meera say's she is not a Guru. From reading her books, she is saying she is an Avatar and was aware of her birth. I buy into that one. She said her role is more general. I have seen some clearly play the part of Guru, and at the same time putting Guru's down and saying you dont need a Guru. One of these is Christine Breese from metaphysics University- on youtube. My Guru's comments to this is if this is so, then Christine should come on with one line- You are there, and that is the end. Instead , she has many videos, acting in the capacity of a Guru while saying you dont need one.= which is it? Didn't Maharishi define what that means? Rishi see's, Maharishi- shows others how to see. I don't remember where that definition came from. Also, it appears Maharishi never procalaimed this name, people starting calling him this. I think the word Maharishi would be defined as Sat Guru
[FairfieldLife] Sanyasi and Narayan
'In the Vedic civilization there is a section of people called Sanyasi, those who have abandoned everything. They are addressed as ''Narayana''Na-ra-yan, the embodiment of nothingness. And this embodiment of nothingness is Brahm. They are called ''Narayan, Narayan.'' These Sanyasi, a very small section of Vedic lifethat is enough to maintain the scattered world in the bond of a family life. ''The world is my family.'' FROM: http://tinyurl.com/2dqkvu Maharishi's address to the Global Press Conference on Unified Field- Based Administration, 26 June 2007 - Part III by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News 15 July 2007 Maharishi continues to speak of his vision for the world through Trikal Sandhya Vandan and large groups of Yogic Flyers in India and around the world, so that Sat Yuga takes over and everyone enjoys life in bliss. At the end of Part II, Maharishi concluded that 'Veda on the level of the senses is heard as a language It is counted in numbers, all the theory of numbers. So there is duality, there is multiplicity in the expression of the Veda. But what Veda expresses is non-dual singularity.' Now in this concluding Part III, Maharishi continues: Uniform wholeness 'That [non-dual singularity] is enlivened by a few people with the Vedic way of life, which includes Yoga, unifying systems of administration, which include devotion. Devotion is very necessary, otherwise without devotion one would be shattered here and there and there. [The Vedic way of life also includes] Vedantathe end of Veda because Veda has fluctuations in it. When the Vedic Pandits recite Veda, they have a word and a gap and a word and a gap, so there is up and down and up and down. These ups and downs are not there in the uniform Unity, uniform wholeness. 'A' and Agni mile purohitam, the start of the Veda 'So these are the Mahavakyas, great sentences of the Vedic wisdom. All of them have been located in one syllable. That is the syllable of Atma, 'A'. 'A' expresses Atma, and 'A' is the first syllable of the Veda. The first syllable of the Veda contains within it the total Veda, the total Veda. 'A', Atma, Agni Mile Purohitamthis is how the Veda starts. So 'A'* is the first syllable of Veda, 'A' is the first syllable of Atma. 'So Veda is the flow of Atma within Atma, [the transcendental Self]. The whole expression, the whole knowledge is not a big, huge thing. This is the reason there is another saying in this field of gaining knowledge: the totality, Raam, [Raam in one aspect of the Vedic Literature, The Ramayana] incorporated Brahm in his own consciousness. It happened when he went to the teacher, and the teacher said: '' 'A', Brahm.'' Finished. '' 'A', Brahma Purnam Loka''. This is the first expression that the teacher accepts the disciple'' 'A' ''. That simply means ''Come''. ''In a short time, total knowledge was gained'' 'What comes to him is all that has been a little farther away. The whole knowledge comes and dawns. Alpakal vidya sab pai: the expression is, ''In a short time total knowledge was gained.'' In a short time, the total knowledge was gained, because there was nothing to gain. That which was to be gained was only awareness of what one already has. One has totality; one is made of totality; one is totality. So there is nothing much to gain. 'These three, four words: Sarvam Khalvidam Brahm, Neha nanasti kinchan, Trikal Sandhya Vandan, Vasudaiva Kutumbhakam, ''The world is my family.'' So Sarvam Khalvidam Brahm is one expression of Vedic Science. Another expression of Vedic Science is Neha nanasti kinchan. The third expression of Vedic Science is Vedic technology. How that science is technically available; how that science is applied to someonethe practical application of it. Science and technology 'So science and technology, and the effect of technology in the fourth expression: Vasudaiva Kutumbhakam, ''The world is my family.'' That is the extent of its application: that the world is going to be under the parental role. And what is the parental role, where is the parental role for the whole world? 'In the Vedic civilization there is a section of people called Sanyasi, those who have abandoned everything. They are addressed as ''Narayana''Na-ra-yan, the embodiment of nothingness. And this embodiment of nothingness is Brahm. They are called ''Narayan, Narayan.'' These Sanyasi, a very small section of Vedic lifethat is enough to maintain the scattered world in the bond of a family life. ''The world is my family.'' 'So these are the four, five words. They are beautifully translated in the modern language, the mathematical language; in the language that no sensible man would object to; to which every sensible man will surrender, having been explained by the charts of Dr Hagelin [world-renowned quantum physicist and Executive Director of the International Center for Invincible Defense in New York City, USA].
[FairfieldLife] 'Cruise Ships Vulnerable'
Cruise ships are very vulnerable to someone; To any type of smuggling operation... When I was in Mexico, Yucatan, Playa del Carman, Back in the late 90's, The cruise ships used to come into the harbor there, Protected by the Mexican Armada there... There was what appeared to be a small oil rig offshore... Anyway, many Mexicans told me, that the huge Cruise Ships, Coming in the harbor, were being loading down with Cocaine... And, the it was a joke down there, about the practice... So, I'm thinkin' to myself, if it is so easy to load tons of Coke, Onto cruise ships in Mexico, wouldn't it be easy to load some- Diabolical thingy, on some cruise ship, from wherever Who checks the cruise ships- who has jurisdiction to check a ship from Norway, for example We need to buck up, and and meditate, pray, etc... 'God Save the Queen!' (Hillary) - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I had no interest in your spiritual experiences, dearie. I was just wondering how far you'd go with this pretense of long weekends away from the com- puter. This one wasn't much longer than a usual weekend, because you posted to the TM-Free blog Friday afternoon, and here you are back on Sunday afternoon, still in the same old mindstate. . . . And he was having orgasms at the thought that he was going to catch me lying about how long I was away. But then, when I fouled up his plans by telling the truth--that I hadn't been away for 72 hours--in response to his lie, he lied *again*, about when I had posted on TMFree, in an attempt to recoup *something* from his failed ploy. Now *that* is curious. I understand that Judy is pissed off that her pretense of spending weekends away from the computer is blown. Can't blow a nonexistent pretense, sorry. You've fantasized a pretense on my part (jealous of my long weekends, apparently), and you *thought* you were going to blow that fantasized pretense by asking me to confirm a length of time away that you knew wasn't accurate. Then you were going to point to the TMFree posts as proof that I was lying. But you failed, because I *don't* lie, and you exposed yourself once again as being fanatically--even maniacally-- obsessed with me and my posting habits. Again, Barry, you AREN'T GOING TO KNOW when I leave and when I return. And if you don't stop trying to puzzle it out, you're going to go round the bend. You're almost there already. But *why* on earth would she accuse *me* of lying about something that is right there on the TM-Free website, and so easily verifiable by anyone here? It sure is verifiable, but unfortunately it doesn't verify Barry's lie. I noticed her comments today when browsing the site for the first time in a long while. (Hint: it's still boring.) She made two comments to TM-Free on Friday, one to the thread about Witnessing Sleep at 8:53 pm my time, which is 1:53pm her time if I'm not mistaken. And she made another comment to the Obama in Fairfield thread at 9:23pm my time, 2:23pm her time. You're mistaken, both times. Last I checked, both comments were made on Friday afternoon, just as I said. Nope, Friday night, my time. It's getting hard to tell who's stalking whom.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sat Guru's growing on trees- defining the word Maharishi
Ronnytanmay You are such a diligent worker for gspot. You must love this slave-uh you perform for her - trawling the forums for potential disciples. However this is just not working very well here on FFL. You don't seem to be getting the necessary bites to pay for the ideative disdain your guruess receives. If I may recommend - why don't you consult with the statuesque Vajra-naught, an illumnated masonite. He has defended swami uttama before from the sneers of puny minds like mine (help me jesus - there's nothing to make me what i am). Surely he can recommend more successful ways to troll your bait in the streams of consciouness here. empty emptyless is nessy's mess Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poster Billy: Sat Gurus don't grow on trees, in this day and age you'd think so! MMY has never claimed to be a Sat Guru, his honesty is refreshing. Yet, he still offers an effective technique for Self Realization, although, at some point a Sat guru may step in and help a *sincere* devotee out, not till then. One must have very good karma to get the personal attention of a Sat Guru.there may not even be any on the planet as we speak, at least not in the west!! Tanmay: For me a some point, there is going to be a leap of faith, probably for most. So here is what I have to go on regarding my own Guru because after that, then what does my Guru have to say... The line with my own Guru is Her SatGuru Rajiv is still in the body, still a SatGuru but not very available to most, and was appointed by PapaJi. Some of my Guru's disciples visited Rajiv under my Guru's instructions. PapaJi was apointed by Ramana Maharishi. Under Papaji were also GangaJi and others. Also, my Guru was tested with machines. At will and while conscious, only delta waves were seen. This is something seen in deep sleep, acording to my Guru ( I think I have this right). The one conducting the study did not know how to respond. Because of my own progress, the above is enough for me. On this basis, my leap of faith is accepting my Guru as Sat Guru for me, and it is a westerner living in the usa. One side thing- why would this be limited to Indians? God's design? I am not buying into that. Sat Guru's can be in any country, of any background. Based on what you have seen, unless this One is known, then there is going to have to be a leap of faith- do you see it that there may not be any Sat Guru's on the planet? OK I am going with what I said- then the next point about it is what my Guru has to say about unfolding enlightenment through your Guru- that they can take you only to where they are. Furthermore, I have seen a lot say I am not a Guru but this is a curious thing, as even if they say this, there are many that still consider them their Guru. Mother Meera say's she is not a Guru. From reading her books, she is saying she is an Avatar and was aware of her birth. I buy into that one. She said her role is more general. I have seen some clearly play the part of Guru, and at the same time putting Guru's down and saying you dont need a Guru. One of these is Christine Breese from metaphysics University- on youtube. My Guru's comments to this is if this is so, then Christine should come on with one line- You are there, and that is the end. Instead , she has many videos, acting in the capacity of a Guru while saying you dont need one.= which is it? Didn't Maharishi define what that means? Rishi see's, Maharishi- shows others how to see. I don't remember where that definition came from. Also, it appears Maharishi never procalaimed this name, people starting calling him this. I think the word Maharishi would be defined as Sat Guru - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
Jesus who? The fictional character invented by the Illuminati to mind-control the West thru their prison-religion Christian ity? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: [snip] .. the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! .. to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the case. The thwarting involved is based on introducing/enhancing the sense of duality and element of amnesia of who you really are. The Illuminati conspiracy to keep humanity enslaved indefinitely does not exclusively involve incarnated entities. Jesus said, The Kingdom of Heaven is within, also, Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you. This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... And it is true, that there are many other entities, which are attracted to you, when you are angry, or in a state of despair, and other lower vibrational states... The people who commit suicide, or blow themselves up: these are people possessed with these lower vibrations... The weapons industry, the obsession with death, and destruction. The mocking of spirituality in the media. It is more than a few people controlling everything- we are all susceptible to the flu of fear and mind control... This so-called Illuminati conspiracy, I believe attempts to simplify everything into a neat black and white package, and being obsessed with conspiracy theory's is another way to keep you distracted with evil... So, the best thing to do is to stay in a spiritual clean place yourself; stay out of the muck, and mud, so to speak. There are ways to release negative energies, from your aura... It is all up to your intention. Ask, and ye shall receive
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Saudi's Obsession with Oil, Black Cubes and Death'
Ah, so we're now back to blaming the arabs for the Illuminati controlled genocide in Iraq. What od youn make of the fact that the suicide bombs that go off in Baghadad on a daily basis, killing scores of civilians, and offering an excuse to keep US forces there are in fact US cruise missiles lobbied into down town Bagdad? http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1613 Or that the insurrection against US trained Iraqi police officers are in fact British SAS soldiers? http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0510/S00052.htm http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/09/20/wirq20.xmlsSheet=/news/2005/09/20/ixnewstop.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saudis play big role in Iraqi insurgency BAGHDAD, July 15: While U.S. officials often blame Syria and Iran for fueling the insurgency in Iraq, the largest number of militants come from Saudi Arabia, it was reported. About 45 percent of all foreign fighters in Iraq are Sunni extremists from Saudi Arabia, with the remaining majority coming from Syria, Lebanon and North Africa, The Los Angeles Times reported Sunday. Almost half of the 135 foreigners in U.S. detention facilities in Iraq are from Saudi Arabia, said a senior U.S. military official who gave the statistics to The Times. Saudi fighters are believed to be responsible for more suicide bombings than any other nationality, the newspaper reported. In the last six months, suicide bombings have killed or injured nearly 4,000 Iraqis. At best, Saudi Arabia has been unable to keep its citizens from fueling the attacks in Iraq, the newspaper reported. At worst, Saudi officials share complicity in sending Sunni extremists to kill U.S. soldiers, Iraqi civilians and those in the Shiite-led government in Baghdad, the Times reported. --- UPI - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] 'The Fastest Eye In The Sky'
The Reaper has no pilot yet it will fly into Iraq equipped with infrared laser and radar targeting systems along with 14 air-to-ground weapons. Flying at 300 mph this U.S. hunter-drone aircraft, the size of a jet fighter, will be a first in aviation history. Lt. Gen. Gary North says that the first deployment will commence soon. The plane is able to patrol, watching for enemy movement, for 14 hours. 07/15/2007 11:25 PM - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snippola Last I checked, both comments were made on Friday afternoon, just as I said. Nope, Friday night, my time. It's getting hard to tell who's stalking whom. It was never hard to tell if you were paying attention.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron sidha7001@ wrote: snip If it is such a small issue about the Guru declaring the disciple enlightened and then giving charge to that one to be a guru, why did Yogananada do it? why to many Guru's make this point as being so significant? Sat Gurus don't grow on trees, in this day and age you'd think so! MMY has never claimed to be a Sat Guru, his honesty is refreshing. Yet, he still offers an effective technique for Self Realization, although, at some point a Sat guru may step in and help a *sincere* devotee out, not till then. One must have very good karma to get the personal attention of a Sat Guru.there may not even be any on the planet as we speak, at least not in the west!! Again this need for someone else. Is everyone on this list either brainwashed or an Illuminati agent?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Saudi's Obsession with Oil, Black Cubes and Death'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, so we're now back to blaming the arabs for the Illuminati controlled genocide in Iraq. Yeah! So why don't the Saudi's take some of their black gold and help their arab bros, that are killing each other in Iraq. It's arab on arab now... I guess that's our fault too?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus who? The fictional character invented by the Illuminati to mind-control the West thru their prison-religion Christian ity? Whatever you wish to think about the one called Jesus of Nazareth; His message is one of greatness, any old way you look at it. He is the one that was brave enough to take the path he did. For a man to become enlightened and then willingly go through the pain of death, much like Socrates in Greece, takes pure guts... So, whatever you think of Jesus, he was surely a dude!
[FairfieldLife] Is Maharishi your Primary Source of Biblcal Research and Scholarship?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus said, The Kingdom of Heaven is within, also, Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you. This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... Robert, s Maharishi your primary source of biblical scholarship these translations an contextual meanings? If I were to ask you where in the Bible says this, and in what context, could you cite chapter and verse without looking? Have you even read Luke 17 to see the context of the statement? Are you aware that kingdom of heaven is within can and has also been translated as the kingdom of god is amongst us, the reign of heaven has come upon us. Are you aware that it is quite reasonable that Jesus assumes his hearers understand the Kingdom foundation that was laid in the Hebrew Scriptures. When Jesus speaks of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven ... he speaks of the time of the fulfillment of the Abrahamic and Davidic covenants. A time of a restored earth where the faithful will worship and serve their God forever under the rulership of a righteous leader of the Davidic line. This was the Messianic hope of the prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures and was carried over and echoed in the words of John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter, Paul and others in the Greek Scriptures. Can you cite any Christian tradition that feels that kingdom of heaven within is a beacon call to transcend via TM? Was the passage in Luke 17 about the healing of 10 leepers in anyway related to the KoH statement in verse 20? Does the fact that most of the remaining verses in Chapter 17 after verses 20-21 are about when the Son of God would be revealed have anything to do with V 20-21? I am sure you are answering yes to these questions, and have insightful follow-ups for them. Can you share?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Fastest Eye In The Sky'
Coming to a neighborhood near you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Reaper has no pilot yet it will fly into Iraq equipped with infrared laser and radar targeting systems along with 14 air-to-ground weapons. Flying at 300 mph this U.S. hunter-drone aircraft, the size of a jet fighter, will be a first in aviation history. Lt. Gen. Gary North says that the first deployment will commence soon. The plane is able to patrol, watching for enemy movement, for 14 hours. 07/15/2007 11:25 PM - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
[FairfieldLife] 'Obama: Level of Violence is Sickening'
Jul 15, 4:30 PM (ET) By NATHANIEL HERNANDEZ (AP) Democratic presidential hopeful U.S. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., speaks with members of the... Full Image CHICAGO (AP) - Standing before a church congregation that has witnessed inner-city violence firsthand, Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Sunday that more must be done to end a social ill that is sickening the soul of this nation. Obama told churchgoers at the Vernon Park Church of God on Chicago's South Side that too many young lives are being claimed by violence and more must be done to combat the problem. From South Central L.A. to Newark, New Jersey, there's an epidemic of violence that's sickening the soul of this nation, the Illinois senator told the crowd. The violence is unacceptable and it's got to stop. Nearly three dozen Chicago students have been killed this year, according to Chicago Public Schools. Obama said that figure is higher than the number of Illinois serviceman who've died in Iraq in 2007. We need to express our collective anger through collective action, Obama said. He said the government needs to permanently reinstate an assault weapons ban and close regulatory loopholes that protect unscrupulous gun dealers. He also said government should support and fund more after-school programs to keep kids off the streets. But some of the burden must also be shouldered by residents who need to do more to raise and protect at-risk children, he added. We have an entire generation of young men in our society who have become products of violence, and we are going to have to break the cycle, Obama said. There are too many young men out there who have gone down the wrong path. He later added, There's a reason they go out and shoot each other, because they don't love themselves. And the reason they don't love themselves is because we are not loving them enough. - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
Prof Nelson and Advaita Bhakti (Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on Yoga Sutras)
New.Morn - thanks for the clarification about the different San Diego Edu's. Unfortunately I only briefly corresponded with him in email. As far as his possible association with the TMO, my scholar-friend did not say and I did not ask Dr. Nelson in my emails. I've been waiting for word that he finally published something in book form. Perhaps I should try to email him again. Since you have been to his website, you know this already, but here are a couple of references for readers of this thread who might want to look deeper: The Ontology of Bhakti: Devotion as Paramapurusartha in Gaudiya Vaisnavism and Madhusudana Sarasvati.Journal of Indian Philosophy 32/4 (November, 2004): 345-392. Bhakti Preempted: Madhusudana Sarasvati on Devotion for the Advaitin Renouncer. Journal of Vaisnava Studies 6 (Winter 1998): 53-74. empty Emptiness without the ness is like Loch without the ness - it's sheer Lochless Help me o' nessy! - without you it's emptyless new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An FYI for Trinity, (and anyone else) For those interested in how krishna-bhakta manifests in the consciousness of an advaita yogin, an excellent resource to read is MadhusUdana Saraswati's commentary on the Bhagavad Gita. He interweaves a word-for-word analysis of each Gita verse with many quotes and examples of text from the yogasutras, upanishads and brahmasutras. He wrote extraordinary bhakti text such as the Bhakti-Rasayana but these have not been translated yet. Dr. Lance Nelson, professor and chair of the religion department at UC-San Diego, http://www.sandiego.edu/theo/facultystaff/nelson.php Actually its University of San Diego -- a completely different university than UC San Diego. Though both have stellar reputations -- and both sit on hills perched above San Diego -- but 5-10 miles apart. Both not to be confused with SDSU -- San Diego Sate University (can you say party?) -- which again sits on a hill, but more inland. Fascinating that Lance is at USD. I do not know of him -- but lived in SD for many years. Funny how such great resources are within walking (aka bicycling) distance -- without even knowing it. Does have any past TMO connection? http://www.sandiego.edu/theo/facultystaff/nelson.php told me in an email that he is planning to publish some of this material in a book but I haven't seen anything yet. The best translation is: Madhusudana Sarasvati Bhagavad-Gita: with the annotation Gudhartha-Dipika Translated by Swami Gambhirananda 1038 page quality hardback for $19.95 (a steal) published by Advaita Ashrama This book is available at: Vedanta Press and Catalog www.vedanta.com t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim emptybill@ wrote: I read your link. I agree with you entirely. The link in the link is worth reading. So, as an information to Judy, the following might be instructive: 'As an aside, these authors are quite aware that their method is very close to the madhyamaka approach, but they categorically assert brahman as the only absolute, and still find fault with nAgArjuna for not asserting the existence of one absolute.' http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/avhp/creation.html There was recently a thread in the Yahoo group Advaitin, regarding the difference between the three major Vedanta philosophies: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/advaitin/messages/36214?threaded=1m=evar=1tidx=1 It led me to the following overview: http://www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip/74.html The thread also mentions 'Madhusudana Saraswati' who was an Advaitin, but also a great Bhakta. We recently had here with Ron and Swami_G the discussion about Non Brahmins non being admitted to the Dandi Swami orders. Well, that Non-Brahmins had access to the 7 other orders finally, was due to the activity of Madhusudana Sarsawati, who was also a great scholar, and this was also the birth of the Naga Babas, the warrior sadhus. It was he who brought the issue that many Sadhus where the victim of islamic faqirs to Akbar, who suggested that Non-Brahmins should be admitted who could fight and carry weapons. As a concession to the orthodox it was determined, that three orders should be excluded from this innovation, among them the Saraswati order. Madhusudana persuaded the Sadhu congregations to follow Akhbars advice. There was also an argument with Ron that Shivananda, being a Saraswati, also initiated Non-Brahmins. I now have read that this tradition has loosened in the south, so, yes Saraswatis in the south can be Non Brahmins, but they can definitely not be Dandi Swamis. Regarding bhakti, Madhusudana Saraswati says : Duality is Bondage before MOKSHA, and after Realization it is wisdom ! The imaginary duality of BHAKTI is sweeter than even Non- duality! This may be especially interesting to Vaj
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Maharishi your Primary Source of Biblcal Research and Scholarship?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Jesus said, The Kingdom of Heaven is within, also, Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you. This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... Robert, s Maharishi your primary source of biblical scholarship these translations an contextual meanings? If I were to ask you where in the Bible says this, and in what context, could you cite chapter and verse without looking? Have you even read Luke 17 to see the context of the statement? Are you aware that kingdom of heaven is within can and has also been translated as the kingdom of god is amongst us, the reign of heaven has come upon us. Are you aware that it is quite reasonable that Jesus assumes his hearers understand the Kingdom foundation that was laid in the Hebrew Scriptures. When Jesus speaks of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven ... he speaks of the time of the fulfillment of the Abrahamic and Davidic covenants. A time of a restored earth where the faithful will worship and serve their God forever under the rulership of a righteous leader of the Davidic line. This was the Messianic hope of the prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures and was carried over and echoed in the words of John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter, Paul and others in the Greek Scriptures. Can you cite any Christian tradition that feels that kingdom of heaven within is a beacon call to transcend via TM? Was the passage in Luke 17 about the healing of 10 leepers in anyway related to the KoH statement in verse 20? Does the fact that most of the remaining verses in Chapter 17 after verses 20-21 are about when the Son of God would be revealed have anything to do with V 20-21? I am sure you are answering yes to these questions, and have insightful follow-ups for them. Can you share? I am really not a student of the Bible, per se... I've been more a student of Maharishi's teachings, and have also studied Tai Chi, and Babaji's Kriya Kundalini Pranayama. I have had past life readings, and was married to someone, my ex... Who was told she had direct contact with Jesus, so we used to do some readings to get a feel for Jesus' teachings, and the setting of the people, places and things. For example, I asked her one time, to go back in time, and remember how it felt, the afternoon that Jesus died... She simply replied, The Rocks Cried!... So, that kind of sums it up for me... Also, Maharishi's work, and his knowledge of the power of meditation to affect the environment, is completely line with the Utopian vision of the early Jews, and others who believed in the 'Oneness' principle. I hope that answers most of your inquires- feel free to follow up. As far as the call to transcend, I think God calls us all to transcend the ego, and serve the Higher Self. 'On earth as it is in Heaven, I think is an eloquent a way to put it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snippola Last I checked, both comments were made on Friday afternoon, just as I said. Nope, Friday night, my time. It's getting hard to tell who's stalking whom. It was never hard to tell if you were paying attention. For the record, I was just making a joke. I never took seriously the accusation that you are a stalker.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
Iesus - as in Jesus and Satan, fictions created for the control of roman women and their slaves. And now look at them - hypostasized into mythic figures so realistic that even Yogananada treated them yogically. Poor Billy G. - without Yogananda what could he say about the blessed lard - and him crucified! empty emptyless is the final ness peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus who? The fictional character invented by the Illuminati to mind-control the West thru their prison-religion Christian ity? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: [snip] .. the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! .. to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the case. The thwarting involved is based on introducing/enhancing the sense of duality and element of amnesia of who you really are. The Illuminati conspiracy to keep humanity enslaved indefinitely does not exclusively involve incarnated entities. Jesus said, The Kingdom of Heaven is within, also, Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you. This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... And it is true, that there are many other entities, which are attracted to you, when you are angry, or in a state of despair, and other lower vibrational states... The people who commit suicide, or blow themselves up: these are people possessed with these lower vibrations... The weapons industry, the obsession with death, and destruction. The mocking of spirituality in the media. It is more than a few people controlling everything- we are all susceptible to the flu of fear and mind control... This so-called Illuminati conspiracy, I believe attempts to simplify everything into a neat black and white package, and being obsessed with conspiracy theory's is another way to keep you distracted with evil... So, the best thing to do is to stay in a spiritual clean place yourself; stay out of the muck, and mud, so to speak. There are ways to release negative energies, from your aura... It is all up to your intention. Ask, and ye shall receive - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
[FairfieldLife] Re: God's Longitude_______was/'Imagine~ Tomorrow...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snippola Last I checked, both comments were made on Friday afternoon, just as I said. Nope, Friday night, my time. It's getting hard to tell who's stalking whom. It was never hard to tell if you were paying attention. For the record, I was just making a joke. I never took seriously the accusation that you are a stalker. For the record, I know! That was for anyone else's benefit who might have wondered.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iesus - as in Jesus and Satan, fictions created for the control of roman women and their slaves. And now look at them - hypostasized into mythic figures so realistic that even Yogananada treated them yogically. Poor Billy G. - without Yogananda what could he say about the blessed lard - and him crucified! empty emptyless is the final ness Yeah, well then I recon that the Coliseum is a figment of your imagination, my imagination, whose story is it anyway. There's the Roman version, the Jewish version, the German version, the Baptist version, Methodist version, Orthodox version, and no version at all: the innocence of a child, a bird, an elephant...even a lion! Lions Tigers Bears, oh my!!! So many versions of reality to choose from. Since we are created in the image of God, then it logically follows that we have the same creative ability. If you believe in emptiness, that you are welcome to create it. It will be empty as you wish...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Maharishi your Primary Source of Biblcal Research and Scholarship?
(snip) That's hard to square with the part of the verse that says [the kingdom of God] commeth not with observation. He means that you must act in order to fulfill your destiny, here on earth, because you have a limited time here. Are you aware that it is quite reasonable that Jesus assumes his hearers understand the Kingdom foundation that was laid in the Hebrew Scriptures. When Jesus speaks of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of HeavenES, Jesus was a Jew, so he believed in all of what went before him. What he added to it, was the fur ... he speaks of the time of the fulfillment of the Abrahamic and Davidic covenants. A time of a restored earth where the faithful will worship and serve their God forever under the rulership of a righteous leader of the Davidic line. Jesus also said that his kingdom is not of this world. He evolved Jewish thought at that time and in this time. He furthered the understanding of the soul, and how the soul transcended the body. The Romans at the time, were pretty much obsessed with the physical (not much has changed, has it?) Anyway, he came by example, by loving and forgiving, and transcending the body. Trouble was, all of his early followers (who were mostly Jewish) were killed, and Israel was destroyed, (the first Holocaust). The Jews were scattered, and when Rome adopted Christianity, and stripped of it any Jewishness, Made it into a Roman Play (same thing happened in Europe, with the Monarchies, making there own rules and translations, that served their political power, made it up as they went along, kind of like George Bush Co.)- again, not much has changed! In the same way, Maharishi's kingdom is ultimately not of this world, Socrates kingdom was not of this world. Spirit is not material, you can't see it or touch it. Most people believe only what they can see and touch. Spirit, is not taught generally on TV, radio, Schools, University's and so forth. That is why Jesus' teaching is as revolutionary today, as it always was and always will be: it can't be institutionalized as much as the Bush Rove have tried. Julius Caesar tried, John Kennedy tried... Ya, know, it might just not be possible to institutionalize Spirit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Guru's growing on trees- defining the word Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the word Maharishi would be defined as Sat Guru Great teacher is the definition of Maha (great) Rishi (seer, teacher) doesn't mention anything about status. Don't get me wrong, doesn't mean I don't think you may need a Sat Guruat some point!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sat Guru's growing on trees- defining the word Maharishi
(snip) Also, my Guru was tested with machines. At will and while conscious, only delta waves were seen. This is something seen in deep sleep, acording to my Guru ( I think I have this right). The one conducting the study did not know how to respond. Snip.. If you're into the Delta Frequencies, consider the work of Bill Harris at Centerpointe... He's really into the Delta thingy... Check it out at: http://www.centerpointe.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Maharishi your Primary Source of Biblcal Research and Scholarship?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Jesus said, The Kingdom of Heaven is within, also, Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you. This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... Robert, s Maharishi your primary source of biblical scholarship these translations an contextual meanings? If I were to ask you where in the Bible says this, and in what context, could you cite chapter and verse without looking? Have you even read Luke 17 to see the context of the statement? Are you aware that kingdom of heaven is within can and has also been translated as the kingdom of god is amongst us, the reign of heaven has come upon us. That's hard to square with the part of the verse that says [the kingdom of God] commeth not with observation. Are you aware that it is quite reasonable that Jesus assumes his hearers understand the Kingdom foundation that was laid in the Hebrew Scriptures. When Jesus speaks of the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven ... he speaks of the time of the fulfillment of the Abrahamic and Davidic covenants. A time of a restored earth where the faithful will worship and serve their God forever under the rulership of a righteous leader of the Davidic line. Jesus also said that his kingdom is not of this world. This was the Messianic hope of the prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures and was carried over and echoed in the words of John the Baptist, Jesus, Peter, Paul and others in the Greek Scriptures. Can you cite any Christian tradition that feels that kingdom of heaven within is a beacon call to transcend via TM? Was the passage in Luke 17 about the healing of 10 leepers in anyway related to the KoH statement in verse 20? Does the fact that most of the remaining verses in Chapter 17 after verses 20-21 are about when the Son of God would be revealed have anything to do with V 20-21? I am sure you are answering yes to these questions, and have insightful follow-ups for them. Can you share?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
bobby gee! Nice reply - your waxing today. But what's this the Jewish version, the German version? Don't know what that means about him - the hanging one. bobby gee: Since we are created in the image of God, then it logically follows that we have the same creative abiltiy. empty: You have hit a gold-mine, and vajra-nut can't even claim to have illuminated your way there! Imposserbull! Yep, although it's considered by evangelical fundies to be the satanic imprimatur - imago dei is the trip line for plunging into the neoplatonic residue within xtianity. The Eastern Orthodox have wrapped it up theologically by asserting that the statement god became man so that man could become god means that what god is in essence, we can become by grace. It is quite juicy. However they talk about both image and likeness. According to them, our image of god, established within us, is purely given - it is a gift. We, as contingent beings, do not have the power to alter this image. The likeness however is our responsibility alone and is usually covered over with trash of the pathe - the emotionality and darkness of narcissus. Their way out? Hit the deck with me buddy-boy and get your heart lower than your head. Bow but don't bow-wow. Use your senses to receive the richness of creation (displayed liberally in the offerings used in the Orthodox liturgy). See, hear, taste the imprints of beauty left by the most beautiful One. And, if you are fortunate, you'll meet someone who will show you how to pick up the scent, like a well-bred hound, of the pathway into the heart (nous). Once there, you'll either leave out of narcisstic boredom, or stand silent, awake and alert before the one who alone is the source of all. By the way, all Latin-based theologies (this includes all western, post-augustinian xtians from roman catholics to hyperfundies) consider this POV to be heretical - broaching the line between creator and creature. Imagine it. Transcendent intelligence and free will - everything that makes us what we are - is truncated by the evangelical fundies into the twin horns on satan's head. Imposserble. empty empty of ness is messiness. Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iesus - as in Jesus and Satan, fictions created for the control of roman women and their slaves. And now look at them - hypostasized into mythic figures so realistic that even Yogananada treated them yogically. Poor Billy G. - without Yogananda what could he say about the blessed lard - and him crucified! empty emptyless is the final ness Yeah, well then I recon that the Coliseum is a figment of your imagination, my imagination, whose story is it anyway. There's the Roman version, the Jewish version, the German version, the Baptist version, Methodist version, Orthodox version, and no version at all: the innocence of a child, a bird, an elephant...even a lion! Lions Tigers Bears, oh my!!! So many versions of reality to choose from. Since we are created in the image of God, then it logically follows that we have the same creative ability. If you believe in emptiness, that you are welcome to create it. It will be empty as you wish... - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bobby gee! Nice reply - your waxing today. But what's this the Jewish version, the German version? Don't know what that means about him - the hanging one. bobby gee: Since we are created in the image of God, then it logically follows that we have the same creative abiltiy. empty: You have hit a gold-mine, and vajra-nut can't even claim to have illuminated your way there! Imposserbull! Well, I just meant to be like this: The Jewish version, to me, is like the people who close to him, and the essene versions, and the whole notion of Messiah... Then the German version would be Martin Luther... And everyone wants Jesus, to be like them. A Black Jesus, A Roman Jesus, A German Jesus, and so on... The painting of Jesus, somehow they look like the culture in which they are painted... Anyway, I get what you're say, so keep on keepin' on, my friend. Bobby G.
[FairfieldLife] TurquoiseB made me see - praise Iesus.
Barry, Just to let you know, I really enjoyed reading your vignette about searching in the dark alleyways of your medieval town. However, rather than emailing you in the normal timeline, I have been waiting to send a thank you. You did send me a teethy little reply to some post I wrote a week or so ago, but I concluded that you were actually quite bored since Judy was on time-out. Sorry I didn't reply but I am unable to fulfill your pugilistic needs in the manner to which you have become accustomed. However, now that the punch and judy show is back on full disply and you have something to occupy your imagination, I can give you the compliment you deserve. Fine piece of writing. And just to prove it, I saluted your work tonight with a wonderous measure of one of the great spirits of recent memory: Woodford Reserve, Distillers Select, Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey, Batch 171, Bottle 1608. May you be remembered for what you do best. empty --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Amazingly cool, I guess, if that's what you want out of life is to nitpick with Judy and Rory about how Freddy levitated and then flew through the air. Point of clarification, Richard -- I never met Frederick Lenz and have no opinion on whether or how he levitated etc. jstein wrote: Ditto here. No, Barry, that's your *fantasy*, the reality you construct for yourself. Awfully petty and small-minded compared to the reality of developing one's consciousness (and possibly that of the world)--even if *that* turns out to have been an illusion as well. - Judy Stein http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143436 As you know, Willytex, what I was calling Barry's fantasy was *not* that Lenz had levitated. Liar that you are, you omitted the context to make it seem that I had. Here's what I was responding to from Barry: Even if it was an illusion, I've seen it and you haven't. And that's what you're pissed off about. And no, Judy's not the *least* bit pissed off, certainly not enough to go over the 35-post-per- week limit *yet again*. :-) While she can make any statement she wishes about her motivations here, I'm just suggesting that folks look into the one that she never seems to recognize in herself -- jealousy. 30+ years developing her consciousness on a path that has brought her no closer to certain spiritual phenomena (levitation, enlightenment, etc.) than reading about them and arguing endlessly about them, as if her reading and watching videos of other people *talking* about them had rendered her some kind of expert. Does that sound familiar, somewhat akin to dumping on a film because someone else dumps on it, without ever having seen it herself? In other spiritual trips, we refer to such a path as armchair spirituality. It's fine, I guess, if what you want is to read about or hear about other people's experiences. If one reads *enough* about them, one can even appear somewhat knowledgeable. But the bottom line -- the one that many people forget to ask -- is, Have you ever experienced these things yourself, or are you talking so auth- oritatively based only on things you've read about or been told about? I'd suggest that if Judy wants to make a case for the value of developing one's consciousness via TM and the TM-siddhi programs she *demonstrate* a bit of that developed consciousness in her posts. Spending 60-70% of her time arguing with and put- ting down those who don't agree with her expertise, often when they've experienced the thing (or film) under discussion and she hasn't, doesn't really strike me as terribly developed. But maybe that's just me...
[FairfieldLife] Sicko
SICKO boxofficemojo.com U.S. Release Date: June 22, 2007 Distributor: Lionsgate Director: Michael Moore Running Time: 2 hours and 3 minutes MPAA Rating: PG-13 (brief strong language) Medical Profession Distorted in Emotionalist Diatribe by Scott Holleran The Bill O'Reilly of pseudo-documentaries, self-promotional blowhard Michael Moore, presents Sicko, a distortion of reality from start to finish that purports to address a crucial issue: health care. Having declined to review Moore's smash, Fahrenheit 9/11, and having missed his anti-business Roger and Me and anti-gun Bowling for Columbine, this writer was prepared to laugh, or at least chuckle, at the mess that constitutes today's mongrel health care system in America (and I've covered health policy for newspapers and non- profits). But this hooey, billed as a comedy, is as funny as a heart attack. Moore covers health care like Fox News covers religion and the war in Iraqwithout providing essential facts. He starts with the claim that 18,000 people die each year from a lack of health insurance, an idiotic assertion. People die. They die of cancer, heart disease and other causes. Individuals have a right to choose not to buy insurance (an idea governors Mitt Romney, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ed Rendell reject)and that means they choose to live without securing a means of paying for catastrophic illness. Taking personal responsibility is not among Moore's values. Neither is disclosing whether he met with communist dictator Fidel Castro or Cuba's Communist Party officials to obtain special treatment for those Americans he illegally brought to the island dictatorship for medical treatment, a low act of depravity, even for Moore, who tacks on a singularly offensive display of communist propaganda. How many enslaved Cubans died so that his pre-selected participants could get cheaper drugs and a new set of teeth? This is a country where kids are stripped of their milk ration at the age of six. That the dishonest Cuba portionmorally repugnant to anyone who recognizes man's rightsprovides Sicko's climax ought to tip the movie's theme that a society ruled by force is acceptable; the ends justify the means. That there is no right to speech, travel or association in Cuba, let alone the right to makeor seea movie, is lost on Moore and his sick bunch. Tracked by overbearing music, emotionalist pitchesa diseased couple with six kids is shocked they can't afford health care in their elder years yet we never learn about how they chose to spend their money and what treatment decisions they've madeand a moral premise that health care is a right, Sicko grates on and on, neither making an argument or an especially interesting or amusing point. Key assertions are false. For example, when Moore blasts Health Maintenance Organizations (HMOs)a term created by a leftist college professor, which Moore does not discloseusing the Nixon administration's HMO Act, he conceals that the bill's primary sponsor was a liberal Democrat: Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts. That's right: the leftist intellectuals railing against HMOs are the bastards who created themby force, requiring that American businesses include HMOs in employee health coverage. You'd never know that from Sicko, which also fails to mention that every world leader from King Hussein to Boris Yeltsin sought medical treatment in the world's most productive nation with the best quality health care: the United States of America. Moore is on firmer ground when he points out that socialized medicine was expanded by America's current president, a devout Christian who agrees that health care is a right, though Moore doesn't describe it that way. The factdespite manipulative flashes of socialized medicine in Britain, Canada and Franceis that, for all intents and purposes, America already has socialized medicine (that is the proper term for government intervention in the medical profession), and it's typically instituted by conservatives. Medicaresubsidized care for every American over age 65is not capitalism. Moore ignores this self- evident truth and the possibility that government-controlled health care is impractical because it is immoral. Moore is no more interested in exploring morality than are the conservatives who shoved Medicare drug subsidies down our throats (emptying our wallets), leaving Sicko holding up one of L.A.'s worst hospitalsthe dreaded government-run King/Drew medical centeras a model, harming his subjects with invasive camera crews and praising the idea that, in Moore's words, one guy changes everyone's mind. We've seen that type of political system, dictatorship, in countries like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, where medicine was controlled by the state, everyone supposedly had health careand no one had rights.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is There an Artificial God?
Interesting article. But in MMY's view of things, the author lacked something-- enlightenment. However, the man appeared to be respected among his peers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A gently mind-bending address to Digital Biota 2, the Second Annual Conference on Cyberbiology, in 1998 by the late Douglas Adams: http://www.biota.org/people/douglasadams/ Excerpts: ...Money is a completely fictitious entity, but it's very powerful in our world; we each have wallets, which have got notes in them, but what can those notes do? You can't breed them, you can't stir fry them, you can't live in them, there's absolutely nothing you can do with them that's any use, other than exchange them with each other - and as soon as we exchange them with each other all sots of powerful things happen, because it's a fiction that we've all subscribed toIf we were all to vanish, money would simply vanish too. Money has no meaning outside ourselves, it is something that we have created that has a powerful shaping effect on the world, because it's something we all subscribe to ...The society of Bali is...all defined by the church; they have very peculiar calendars and a very peculiar set of customs and rituals, which are precisely defined and, oddly enough, they are fantastically good at being very, very productive with their rice harvest. In the 70s, people came in and noticed that the rice harvest was determined by the temple calendar. It seemed to be totally nonsensical, so they said, 'Get rid of all this, we can help you make your rice harvest much, much more productive than even you're, very successfully, doing at the moment. Use these pesticides, use this calendar, do this, that and the other'. So they started and for two or three years the rice production went up enormously, but the whole predator/prey/pest balance went completely out of kilter. Very shortly, the rice harvest plummeted again and the Balinese said, 'Screw it, we're going back to the temple calendar!' and they reinstated what was there before and it all worked again absolutely perfectly ...As we become more and more scientifically literate, it's worth remembering that the fictions with which we previously populated our world may have some function that it's worth trying to understand and preserve the essential components of, rather than throwing out the baby with the bath water; because even though we may not accept the reasons given for them being here in the first place, it may well be that there are good practical reasons for them, or something like them, to be there
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Distinction Between- Light of God Lucifer's Sparkle'
Who are the Illuminatis? Is Bush a member of this sect? Al Quaida? Are we blaming them for all the ills in the world? or are we being paranoid about things that occur in the world? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus who? The fictional character invented by the Illuminati to mind-control the West thru their prison-religion Christian ity? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, peterklutz peterklutz@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: [snip] .. the only thing you need to do is to remember who you are! .. to suggest a mere mortal could devise a plan to thwart the will of almighty God would render God impotent which is not the case. The thwarting involved is based on introducing/enhancing the sense of duality and element of amnesia of who you really are. The Illuminati conspiracy to keep humanity enslaved indefinitely does not exclusively involve incarnated entities. Jesus said, The Kingdom of Heaven is within, also, Seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and all else will be added unto you. This jives perfectly with Maharishi's teaching... And it is true, that there are many other entities, which are attracted to you, when you are angry, or in a state of despair, and other lower vibrational states... The people who commit suicide, or blow themselves up: these are people possessed with these lower vibrations... The weapons industry, the obsession with death, and destruction. The mocking of spirituality in the media. It is more than a few people controlling everything- we are all susceptible to the flu of fear and mind control... This so-called Illuminati conspiracy, I believe attempts to simplify everything into a neat black and white package, and being obsessed with conspiracy theory's is another way to keep you distracted with evil... So, the best thing to do is to stay in a spiritual clean place yourself; stay out of the muck, and mud, so to speak. There are ways to release negative energies, from your aura... It is all up to your intention. Ask, and ye shall receive
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is There an Artificial God?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting article. But in MMY's view of things, the author lacked something-- enlightenment. MMY said Douglas Adams wasn't enlightened? I'm surprised he had any idea who Adams was. However, the man appeared to be respected among his peers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: A gently mind-bending address to Digital Biota 2, the Second Annual Conference on Cyberbiology, in 1998 by the late Douglas Adams: http://www.biota.org/people/douglasadams/ Excerpts: ...Money is a completely fictitious entity, but it's very powerful in our world; we each have wallets, which have got notes in them, but what can those notes do? You can't breed them, you can't stir fry them, you can't live in them, there's absolutely nothing you can do with them that's any use, other than exchange them with each other - and as soon as we exchange them with each other all sots of powerful things happen, because it's a fiction that we've all subscribed toIf we were all to vanish, money would simply vanish too. Money has no meaning outside ourselves, it is something that we have created that has a powerful shaping effect on the world, because it's something we all subscribe to ...The society of Bali is...all defined by the church; they have very peculiar calendars and a very peculiar set of customs and rituals, which are precisely defined and, oddly enough, they are fantastically good at being very, very productive with their rice harvest. In the 70s, people came in and noticed that the rice harvest was determined by the temple calendar. It seemed to be totally nonsensical, so they said, 'Get rid of all this, we can help you make your rice harvest much, much more productive than even you're, very successfully, doing at the moment. Use these pesticides, use this calendar, do this, that and the other'. So they started and for two or three years the rice production went up enormously, but the whole predator/prey/pest balance went completely out of kilter. Very shortly, the rice harvest plummeted again and the Balinese said, 'Screw it, we're going back to the temple calendar!' and they reinstated what was there before and it all worked again absolutely perfectly ...As we become more and more scientifically literate, it's worth remembering that the fictions with which we previously populated our world may have some function that it's worth trying to understand and preserve the essential components of, rather than throwing out the baby with the bath water; because even though we may not accept the reasons given for them being here in the first place, it may well be that there are good practical reasons for them, or something like them, to be there
[FairfieldLife] last call for Vaidya Mishra in Indianapolis, 20-26 July
Raj Vaidya Mishra, famous for his years with MAPI, will be offering a course on pulse diagnosis and consultations at Health Synergies in Indianapolis. http://www.HealthSynergies.net/mishraads.pdf 20-22 pulse course 24-26 consultations Appointments for consultations are still available on the 26th, Thursday.
[FairfieldLife] 'Chinese Archetecture Design Competiton'
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