[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm sorry that your body is so out of balance that 
  it can't handle a glass of wine without becoming dull. 
  But to believe that this disability makes you better 
  than those who do not have such a limitation? 
 
 Turq,
 
 I'm thinking it may be because our brains are not made of a 
 spunge like material so it doesn't absorb the alcohol in 
 our brains causing the anesthesia effect that plagues him. 
 In our non spunge like brains, the unabsorbed alcohol can 
 get to the brain's charming repartee centers where it does 
 the most good!

Last I checked, 'spunge' was a colloquialism 
for ejaculate. I suspect that if one's brain
IS made of spunge, alcohol might make it dull. 
Those of us with regular brains can probably 
skate by with just a light buzz and an apprec-
iation of the smells and flavors of a good
Cabernet.  :-)

The thing is, people on these forums sometimes
forget how WEIRD they are compared to the world
they live in. They believe that a glass of wine
makes them dull and poisons them. Some of them
believe that *ice cream* is bad for them.

If that's how they choose to live their lives,
cool. I have no problem with what they choose
to believe. But when they try to present the
weird things they've chosen to believe as if
believing them makes them BETTER than other
people in the world? Sorry...I'm not buyin' 
that. 

All 'me' and no glass 'o wine with a good meal
makes Jack a dull egofuckin'maniac.






[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Jan 28, 2008, at 6:01 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
 
  No, Judy, after 5 years of this bullshit on your part, I won't play
  your reread what I said or your first get it straight redirect.
 
  Answer the fucking question or shut the fuck up.
 
 Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going to waste on  
 this silliness before they stop beating each *other* up?

Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
of spunge-brain syndrome. 

Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
that they're making absolute asses of themselves.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Jan 28, 2008, at 6:01 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
 
  No, Judy, after 5 years of this bullshit on your part, I won't play
  your reread what I said or your first get it straight redirect.
 
  Answer the fucking question or shut the fuck up.

Get a checking !



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 29, 2008, at 2:14 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


On Jan 28, 2008, at 6:01 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:


No, Judy, after 5 years of this bullshit on your part, I won't play
your reread what I said or your first get it straight redirect.

Answer the fucking question or shut the fuck up.


Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going to waste on
this silliness before they stop beating each *other* up?


Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
of spunge-brain syndrome.

Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
that they're making absolute asses of themselves.


 A good glass of wine would do wonders.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Hearts of High Eenas??

2008-01-29 Thread cardemaister
Rgveda X 95, 15

puruuravo maa mRthaa maa pra papto
maa tvaa vRkaaso ashivaasa u kShan  |
na vai straiNaani sakhyaani santi 
saalaavRkaaNaaM hRdayaany etaa  || 

15 Nay, do not die, Purûravas, nor vanish: let not the evil-omened 
wolves devour thee.
With women there can be no lasting friendship: hearts of hyenas are 
the hearts of women.

Attempt at pada-paaTha:

puruuravaH maa mRthaa(?) maa pra paptaH
maa tvaa vRkaasaH ashiva+aasaH(??) u kSan  |
na vai straiNaani sakhyaani santi 
saalaa-vRkaaNaaM hRdayaani etaa  || 

puruuravo (Puruuravas) maa (do not) mRthaa (die)
 maa (do not) pra papto (vanish)
maa (let not) tvaa (thee) vRkaaso (wolves)
ashivaasa (evil-omened)  u kSan (devour)  |
na (not) vai(indeed) straiNaani (female) 
 sakhyaani (friends) santi ([there] are) 
saalaavRkaaNaaM[1] (of hyenas) hRdayaany (hearts)
 etaa ([are] those)  || 

[1] sAlAvRtika m. (in later language mostly %{shAlA-vRka}) ` house-
wolf (?) ' , a kind of wolf or hyena or jackal or similar animal 
RV. c. c. 




[FairfieldLife] 'Turning Over Tables in the Temple'

2008-01-29 Thread Robert
Yesterday, it felt like the Status Quo moved a bit...
  No longer is Bill Clinton the leader he once was...
  The Clintons seem stale and plastic now.
  It's as if Teddy Kennedy Baptized a new leader yesterday:
  Someone who speaks to the soul, like Bobby or John.
  Someone ready to take the reins and move us forward.
  The days of poll tested,  plastic fantastic performances:
  Ended.
   
   

   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
 Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going 
 to waste on this silliness before they stop beating each 
 *other* up?
   
Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
of spunge-brain syndrome.
   
Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
that they're making absolute asses of themselves.
   
   A good glass of wine would do wonders.
  
  I suspect it would take a whole bottle before 
  either of them ever even *approached* being
  human.  :-)
 
 Shut up, Barry. You're irrelevant.

Make that two bottles for Judy. 

:-)  :-)  :-)

Just for fun, replacing the part of my post she so 
carefully snipped (the part she was pissed about):

 The gist of this act seems to be, Ok everyone
 on FFL, watch as I demonstrate how incredibly
 dumb/ignorant of the facts/lazy/duplicitous 
 my opponent is.
 
 Shemp's trying to do this to Judy. 
 
 Judy's trying to do this to Shemp.
 
 Both of them think we in the audience are 
 interested in the results.
 
 Hasn't it ever occurred to *either* of them what
 happens if they win and prove that the other
 person IS as dumb as they think he/she is?
 
 The winner will have proved that the loser
 is a bit of a retard.
 
 And by doing so, the winner will have proved
 that he or she GETS OFF ON DEBATING WITH RETARDS.
 
 Now THAT's a real challenge, right?
 
 :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
Buh...buh...buh...but Curtis, you just don't understand!

All these things you describe below are RELATIVE phen-
omena. They have to do with the fallen aspect of life
on Earth. You know, the planet that Maharishi refers
to as this horrible place. 

How could you possibly find ANYTHING charming or fasc-
inating about anything that happens in Maya. The alcohol
must have REALLY dulled your brain if you are finding
such things satisfying in any way.

Everyone who is evolved knows that the only thing that
can ever *really* satisfy is sitting with eyes closed
lost in the bliss of the Absolute. End of story. 

Eating? That's just something we have to do from time 
to time so that we can continue to meditate. It's a 
horrible distraction from the bliss of the Absolute, 
but it's one of those drawbacks of having a body.
Someday (soon, we hope) we won't have them any more, 
and then we can stay in the bliss ALL the time and 
NEVER have to stop meditating.

Same with talking to all those horrible people. Some
of the ones you mentioned don't even MEDITATE, for
Krishnassake! How can you lower yourself to be in the
same *room* with them, much less speak to them and
share horrible, dulling alcohol with them.

Friends? What are those. Isn't that another word for
something that distracts you from the Absolute?

As for sharing a drink with your father, I guess that's
OK if he meditates and if you have to spend some time
out of meditation hitting him up for money so that you
can spend more time in meditation, the way we really
evolved souls do.

Get with the program, Curtis. This alcohol stuff has
so dulled your mind that you have started to believe
that life is something to be enjoyed and not something
to run away from. That's Off The Program.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
  anesthetic it creates dullness.
 
 I understand the alcohol bad position and lived it for years. If
 that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
 attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
 and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the set and
 setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
 of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
 
 A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
 background.
 
 Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
 last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
 many questions about what blues artists they should download.
 
 A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
 came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
 
 A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
 Chesapeake Bay crabs.
 
 Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
 survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
 feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
 harvest.
 
 Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your Vietnamese
 friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
 
 A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
 
 Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
 style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
 
 Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
 traditional meal she cooked for you.
 
 Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
 and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
 Cup soccer. 
 
 A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
 experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation of
  Japan.
 
 Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with a
 glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
 
 A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
 while the snow falls outside.
 
 Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
 beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
 connects people.  Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude. 
 It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version.  You
 may associate it with dullness if you prefer.  I prefer to associate
 it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during
conversation.
  
 
   
  
  Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active brain-
  drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol abuse 
  distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social 
  drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction caused 
  by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. Even 
  low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult for 
  the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, ethanol 
  acts to depress the brain function 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 1/29/08 10:05:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Some of  us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
 has the ability to do anything  *else*.

Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse  may
generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get the  job
done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense of Obama,  the
effective, well-informed policy wonk.



Bingo! And Hillary won't be able to much better either. They will have to  
have a very liberal Congress to get pushed thru anything they want.  
Conservatives will tie up most bills just like Newt Gingrich did the first two  
years of 
the Clinton administration.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues

  
 Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an anesthetic 
 it creates dullness.

I understand the alcohol bad position and lived it for years. If
that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the set and
setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.

A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
background.

Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
many questions about what blues artists they should download.

A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.

A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
Chesapeake Bay crabs.

Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
harvest.

Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your Vietnamese
friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.

A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.

Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.

Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
traditional meal she cooked for you.

Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
Cup soccer. 

A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation of
 Japan.

Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with a
glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.

A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
while the snow falls outside.

Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
connects people.  Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude. 
It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version.  You
may associate it with dullness if you prefer.  I prefer to associate
it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during conversation.
 

  
 
 Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active brain-
 drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol abuse 
 distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social 
 drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction caused 
 by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. Even 
 low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult for 
 the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, ethanol 
 acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much in 
 the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
 {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003} 
 
 http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html





[FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
  rick@ wrote:
  
   Mr. Archer et al,
   
   I tried to post to this thread last night but
  cannot find it. I may
   have done something wrong.  
   
   Rather than attempt to re-write my memories of my
  friend Scott 
  Girard
   from high school and college, I would like to
  simply repeat my 
  request
   that, as there appears to be no adult supervision
  on this discussion
   group, perhaps all of you might take your little
  arguments about
   exercise and your vicious threats against each
  other to a different
   subject line in order to stop the disrespect you
  are bringing to the
   name of a good and gentle man.
   
   This is precisely the kind of childishness that
  would have upset 
  Scott
   the most. Were he to have learned that so many
  people have time to
   criticize each other behind anonymous pen-names,
  he would have been
   saddened indeed. I am certain he would ask all of
  you to rise above
   it, to seek to spend your limited time here on
  more significant
   matters. And, above all, he would ask you to stop
  with the childish
   name-calling and meaningless physical threats.
   
   So, please, start a thread called To exercise or
  not or something
   like that and let poor Scott and his memory
  actually begin to rest 
  in
   peace.
   
   Tim Rowan
   Colorado Springs
  
  
  Dear Mr. Rowan,
  
  By suggesting that our silly yet insignificant
  bickering on this 
  forum is preventing Mr. Girard's soul from finding
  peace, you imply 
  that he spent the better part of 30 years on a
  program -- called The 
  Thousand-Headed Purusha Progarm -- that wasn't very
  effective.  
  After all, if all that rounding and deep meditation
  and countless 
  hours spent at the feet of his Master, Maharishi
  Mahesh Yogi, wasn't 
  enough to create a barrier of invincibility to
  overcome our 
  admittedly childish infighting then what exactly are
  YOU saying about 
  the most important choice that Mr. Girard made
  during his lifetime?
  
  I would therefore humbly suggest, Mr. Rowan, that it
  YOU who is 
  showing disrespect for the dearly departed by
  implying that he was 
  both wasting his time and had bad judgement by
  choosing a spiritual 
  path that didn't achieve the most basic results one
  would, at the 
  very least, expect from more than three decades of
  devotion.
  
  Sincerely,
  
  The Reverend, Most Perfect Shemp McGurk
 
 Jesus, man. Cut Tim some slack. He's bothered that a
 thread about a great guy passing away devolved into a
 ridiculous series of posts about exercise without a
 thread name change. He's right. Obviously Tim knew
 Scott quite well and is simply asking for some respect
 for Scott.  Why can't we take Tim's request to heart
 without the sarcastic nonsense and name calling?
 Please, nobody answer that question!






It really irked me that he referred to Scott (someone I never heard 
of nor knew) as poor Scott.  That really probably more insulting to 
his memory than anyone else.







 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going 
to waste on this silliness before they stop beating each 
*other* up?
  
   Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
   of spunge-brain syndrome.
  
   Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
   go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
   that they're making absolute asses of themselves.
  
  A good glass of wine would do wonders.
 
 I suspect it would take a whole bottle before 
 either of them ever even *approached* being
 human.  :-)
 
 The gist of this act seems to be, Ok everyone
 on FFL, watch as I demonstrate how incredibly
 dumb/ignorant of the facts/lazy/duplicitous 
 my opponent is.
 
 Shemp's trying to do this to Judy. 
 
 Judy's trying to do this to Shemp.
 
 Both of them think we in the audience are 
 interested in the results.
 
 Hasn't it ever occurred to *either* of them what
 happens if they win and prove that the other
 person IS as dumb as they think he/she is?
 
 The winner will have proved that the loser
 is a bit of a retard.
 
 And by doing so, the winner will have proved
 that he or she GETS OFF ON DEBATING WITH RETARDS.
 
 Now THAT's a real challenge, right?
 
 :-)



However, the difference between you and me, Turquoise, is that 
whereas you will continue to goad and exchange with Judy for days and 
days and days and post after post after post, I actually retire after 
about 4 or 5 exchanges.

I even ignore her running dog lacky, Bongo Brazil, when, as usual, he 
comes nipping at my heels and shitting on my carpet.



[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I'm guessing I'm gunna get even less approval with a story 
 of sharing a spliff with  a dreadlocked Rastafarian while eating 
 Ital food and listening to live reggae...
 
 Thought you would enjoy that list, and I know you have one of your
 own.I'm just racking up the stories for when we're parked next to 
 each other in our wheelchairs in the home for wayward yogis Turq.
 My chair will be rigged up with a flask of something that will 
 enhance our meds!

Jah, mon. I be lookin' forward to 't.

If you pick a home for wayward yogis here in Spain, you 
can even grow your own herb for the spliff during 
gardening hour. It's legal here.

I be listenin' right now to Brother Marley's re-release 
of No Woman, No Cry from beyond the grave. He must miss
a few of these delights as well, because he's changed
the lyrics of the chorus to say, No Maya, no fun.

:-)


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Buh...buh...buh...but Curtis, you just don't understand!
  
  All these things you describe below are RELATIVE phen-
  omena. They have to do with the fallen aspect of life
  on Earth. You know, the planet that Maharishi refers
  to as this horrible place. 
  
  How could you possibly find ANYTHING charming or fasc-
  inating about anything that happens in Maya. The alcohol
  must have REALLY dulled your brain if you are finding
  such things satisfying in any way.
  
  Everyone who is evolved knows that the only thing that
  can ever *really* satisfy is sitting with eyes closed
  lost in the bliss of the Absolute. End of story. 
  
  Eating? That's just something we have to do from time 
  to time so that we can continue to meditate. It's a 
  horrible distraction from the bliss of the Absolute, 
  but it's one of those drawbacks of having a body.
  Someday (soon, we hope) we won't have them any more, 
  and then we can stay in the bliss ALL the time and 
  NEVER have to stop meditating.
  
  Same with talking to all those horrible people. Some
  of the ones you mentioned don't even MEDITATE, for
  Krishnassake! How can you lower yourself to be in the
  same *room* with them, much less speak to them and
  share horrible, dulling alcohol with them.
  
  Friends? What are those. Isn't that another word for
  something that distracts you from the Absolute?
  
  As for sharing a drink with your father, I guess that's
  OK if he meditates and if you have to spend some time
  out of meditation hitting him up for money so that you
  can spend more time in meditation, the way we really
  evolved souls do.
  
  Get with the program, Curtis. This alcohol stuff has
  so dulled your mind that you have started to believe
  that life is something to be enjoyed and not something
  to run away from. That's Off The Program.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
anesthetic it creates dullness.
   
   I understand the alcohol bad position and lived it for years. If
   that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
   attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
   and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the
set and
   setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
   of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
   
   A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
   background.
   
   Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
   last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
   many questions about what blues artists they should download.
   
   A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
   came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
   
   A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
   Chesapeake Bay crabs.
   
   Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
   survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
   feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
   harvest.
   
   Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your
Vietnamese
   friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
   
   A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
   
   Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
   style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
   
   Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
   traditional meal she cooked for you.
   
   Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
   and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
   Cup soccer. 
   
   A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
   experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 1/29/08 10:05:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
  j_alexander_stanley@ writes:
  
  Some of  us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
   has the ability to do anything  *else*.
  
  Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse  may
  generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get the  job
  done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense of Obama,
  the effective, well-informed policy wonk.
  
  Bingo! And Hillary won't be able to much better either. They will
  have to have a very liberal Congress to get pushed thru anything 
  they want. Conservatives will tie up most bills just like Newt 
  Gingrich did the first two  years of the Clinton administration.
 
 Thing is, Obama has *no* idea of what he'll be
 facing if he gets elected. Hillary has a much
 clearer idea of what the score will be and what
 she'll have to do to get things done. The
 opposition will be overwhelming, but forewarned
 is forearmed. She'll at least have more of a
 chance. The conservatives will eat Obama and his
 warm fuzzies for breakfast; Hillary will give them
 enough indigestion to slow them down a bit.


...you mean the way her husband slowed down the Conservatives during 
his 8 years in office?

You mean the way he signed NAFTA, the Welfare Reform Act, balanced 
the budget, supported the death penalty, the Defense of Marriage Act, 
etc.?

Yup, bring on Hillary and Bill, the most conservative president of 
the last 50 years.

It's wonderful, isn't it, when your political opposities do all your 
work for you!

Oh, it just warms my heart that Judy supports the Clintons...




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
  Thing is, Obama has *no* idea of what he'll be
  facing if he gets elected. Hillary has a much
  clearer idea of what the score will be and what
  she'll have to do to get things done. The
  opposition will be overwhelming, but forewarned
  is forearmed. She'll at least have more of a
  chance. The conservatives will eat Obama and his
  warm fuzzies for breakfast; Hillary will give them
  enough indigestion to slow them down a bit.
 
 ...you mean the way her husband slowed down the Conservatives
 during his 8 years in office?

I think she'd be a lot tougher for them to
steamroll than Bill was. She's tougher all
the way around than Bill and more committed
to change.




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Roberto babajii_99@ wrote:
 snip
  Hillary had most of the Black vote, only a few months ago...
  This whole thing happened recently.
  Actually I believe it started when Barack spoke at the Des Moines 
  event, back in December...
  For me, that's when I felt the electricity that he seemed to
  tap into.
  Since that time, this has only increased.
  He clearly has the ability to inspire, and to bring people
  together.
 
 Some of us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
 has the ability to do anything *else*.

Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse may
generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get the job
done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense of Obama, the
effective, well-informed policy wonk.



[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
So I'm guessing I'm gunna get even less approval with a story of
sharing a spliff with  a dreadlocked Rastafarian while eating Ital
food and listening to live reggae...

Thought you would enjoy that list, and I know you have one of your
own.I'm just racking up the stories for when we're parked next to each
other in our wheelchairs in the home for wayward yogis Turq .  My
chair will be rigged up with a flask of something that will enhance
our meds!




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Buh...buh...buh...but Curtis, you just don't understand!
 
 All these things you describe below are RELATIVE phen-
 omena. They have to do with the fallen aspect of life
 on Earth. You know, the planet that Maharishi refers
 to as this horrible place. 
 
 How could you possibly find ANYTHING charming or fasc-
 inating about anything that happens in Maya. The alcohol
 must have REALLY dulled your brain if you are finding
 such things satisfying in any way.
 
 Everyone who is evolved knows that the only thing that
 can ever *really* satisfy is sitting with eyes closed
 lost in the bliss of the Absolute. End of story. 
 
 Eating? That's just something we have to do from time 
 to time so that we can continue to meditate. It's a 
 horrible distraction from the bliss of the Absolute, 
 but it's one of those drawbacks of having a body.
 Someday (soon, we hope) we won't have them any more, 
 and then we can stay in the bliss ALL the time and 
 NEVER have to stop meditating.
 
 Same with talking to all those horrible people. Some
 of the ones you mentioned don't even MEDITATE, for
 Krishnassake! How can you lower yourself to be in the
 same *room* with them, much less speak to them and
 share horrible, dulling alcohol with them.
 
 Friends? What are those. Isn't that another word for
 something that distracts you from the Absolute?
 
 As for sharing a drink with your father, I guess that's
 OK if he meditates and if you have to spend some time
 out of meditation hitting him up for money so that you
 can spend more time in meditation, the way we really
 evolved souls do.
 
 Get with the program, Curtis. This alcohol stuff has
 so dulled your mind that you have started to believe
 that life is something to be enjoyed and not something
 to run away from. That's Off The Program.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
   anesthetic it creates dullness.
  
  I understand the alcohol bad position and lived it for years. If
  that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
  attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
  and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the set and
  setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
  of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
  
  A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
  background.
  
  Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
  last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
  many questions about what blues artists they should download.
  
  A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
  came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
  
  A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
  Chesapeake Bay crabs.
  
  Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
  survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
  feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
  harvest.
  
  Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your Vietnamese
  friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
  
  A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
  
  Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
  style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
  
  Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
  traditional meal she cooked for you.
  
  Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
  and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
  Cup soccer. 
  
  A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
  experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation of
   Japan.
  
  Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with a
  glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
  
  A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
  while the snow falls outside.
  
  Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
  beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
  connects people.  Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude. 
  It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version.  You
  may associate it with dullness if you prefer.  I 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 1/29/08 10:05:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Some of  us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
  has the ability to do anything  *else*.
 
 Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse  may
 generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get the  job
 done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense of Obama,
 the effective, well-informed policy wonk.
 
 Bingo! And Hillary won't be able to much better either. They will
 have to have a very liberal Congress to get pushed thru anything 
 they want. Conservatives will tie up most bills just like Newt 
 Gingrich did the first two  years of the Clinton administration.

Thing is, Obama has *no* idea of what he'll be
facing if he gets elected. Hillary has a much
clearer idea of what the score will be and what
she'll have to do to get things done. The
opposition will be overwhelming, but forewarned
is forearmed. She'll at least have more of a
chance. The conservatives will eat Obama and his
warm fuzzies for breakfast; Hillary will give them
enough indigestion to slow them down a bit.




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 1/29/08 10:05:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Some of  us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
   has the ability to do anything  *else*.
  
  Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse  may
  generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get the  job
  done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense of Obama,  the
  effective, well-informed policy wonk.
 
 Bingo! And Hillary won't be able to much better either. They will 
 have to have a very liberal Congress to get pushed thru anything 
 they want. Conservatives will tie up most bills just like Newt 
 Gingrich did the first two years of the Clinton administration.

I think Obama's recent ad about Hilary says it all:
She'll say anything...and change nothing.

She sold her soul and her votes to the highest bidder
decades ago, and would do the same as President. In
the world of politics, not having as much experience
as Hilary does is a GOOD thing. It means he hasn't
sold his soul as often yet, or as completely.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Turning Over Tables in the Temple'

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yesterday, it felt like the Status Quo moved a bit...
   No longer is Bill Clinton the leader he once was...
   The Clintons seem stale and plastic now.
   It's as if Teddy Kennedy Baptized a new leader yesterday:


Perhaps he baptized him in the waters surrounding Chappaquiddik...



   Someone who speaks to the soul, like Bobby or John.



Oh, yes, John would have LOVED Obama, seeing as he had such a great 
record on African-Americans.  Didn't John have to cozy up with the 
racist, segregationist Dixiecrats in order to secure his nomination?

Bobby was the one who did what he could for the Blacks (well, some 
Blacks, at least. Remember that Bobby, as Attorney-General, was the 
one who signed the warrants to wire-tap Martin Luther King).  In 
fact, John used to deride Bobby in this area by referring to him 
as Bobby and his Negroes.




   Someone ready to take the reins and move us forward.
   The days of poll tested,  plastic fantastic performances:
   Ended.


 

 -
 Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Hillary had most of the Black vote, only a few months ago...
 This whole thing happened recently.
 Actually I believe it started when Barack spoke at the Des Moines 
 event, back in December...
 For me, that's when I felt the electricity that he seemed to
 tap into.
 Since that time, this has only increased.
 He clearly has the ability to inspire, and to bring people
 together.

Some of us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
has the ability to do anything *else*.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Peter

--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Jan 29, 2008, at 2:14 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  On Jan 28, 2008, at 6:01 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
 
  No, Judy, after 5 years of this bullshit on your
 part, I won't play
  your reread what I said or your first get it
 straight redirect.
 
  Answer the fucking question or shut the fuck up.
 
  Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two
 are going to waste on
  this silliness before they stop beating each
 *other* up?
 
  Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
  of spunge-brain syndrome.
 
  Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
  go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
  that they're making absolute asses of themselves.
 
   A good glass of wine would do wonders.
 
 Sal

And getting laid, of course in the correct vastu with
the appropriate ayurvedic unguents.




 
 
 



  

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 1/28/08 6:20:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 And  nothing gives me more pleasure than to see an extreme liberal 
 like Judy  continually endorse the Clintons and defend Bill Clinton, a 
 man who headed  the most conservative administration of the past 50 
 years 
 
 Yes,  Clinton's eight years saw even MORE conservative legislation 
 passed into  law than under Ronald Reagan:
 
 - Defense of Marriage Act
 
 -  NAFTA
 
 - Balanced the budget
 
 - Welfare Reform
 
 - Support  for the death penalty (indeed, Clinton went out of his way 
 to return to  Arkansas during his presidential campaign to make sure a 
 retarded Black  Man was put to death).
 
 So, I laugh and snicker with glee to see Judy  defend Bill Clinton! 
 Go for it, Judy!
 
 
 
 
 Thank God Clinton had to deal with a conservative congress that
wouldn't  
 send him the kind of legislation he really would like to have  signed.


Too bad G.W. Bush's Congress wasn't anything like that for the first
six years.






[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Roberto
 (snip)
 
 You're a terrible mind-reader. No, that wasn't
 innocent. On the other hand, Obama's no
 innocent either. The notion that he's not running
 as an African American, and that therefore any
 acknowledgment of his race is playing the race
 card, is ludicrous. He wants to have it both ways.
  (snip)
Hillary had most of the Black vote, only a few months ago...
This whole thing happened recently.
Actually I believe it started when Barack spoke at the Des Moines 
event, back in December...
For me, that's when I felt the electricity that he seemed to tap into.
Since that time, this has only increased.
He clearly has the ability to inspire, and to bring people together.
Hillary and Bill have been polarizing figures, now and in the past.
I don't see why they would deserve another stint in the WH.
Why not give a new generation a chance to experience an inspirational 
leader who very much reminds people of the idealism and the inspiration 
political/spiritual leaders of the sixties.
The Clintons, like the Bush's are political leaders.
Obama, like the Kennedy's transcend politics somewhat and become 
spiritual inspirational leaders- which are certainly more rare.
It's a tough world for sure, and a cynical world at that.
So, it's hard to except that things could really change.
The choice isn't between black or white or man or woman.
It's deeper than that.
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: An Outside View in to Fairfield

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 An outside view of Communal Meditating Fairfield
 A critical analysis 
 I like this 1844 essay for some good parallels to the present in 
the 
 analysis.
 
 The delineation of the 3 ways people look to participate is a good 
 way of seeing some of the why and the character of who has come to 
 the modern FF version of American utopian experiment.  Also, the 
 observation about the corrupting influence of money on their group, 
 segmenting of the group by the handling of money.  Can see this 
even 
 now.



Critically also, the 'inside' views.  For instance from within 
Fairfield Meditators ranged in 
this thread:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/162397




 
 Traveling around the state of Iowa now I often find people who look 
 from the outside wondering what is going on in Fairfield.  Most 
often 
 they have only a general monolithic sense of Fairfield with 
 its `meditators'.  Picture they may get from the Des Moines 
Register 
 about MUM or other media notes and TMmovement promotions.  Mostly 
 they see something that is `different' going on here without much 
of 
 a discerning handle on it.  So there is a frequent question about 
 what is going on in Fairfield, wanting an inside view.
 
 In truth of course it is not monolithic at all here.  That the 
 utopian spiritual practice community which is in Fairfield now is 
 mature and way more diverse than the TMmovement now.  That it is 
 utopian, experiment, is very American actually and is much more 
than 
 the TMmovement, in Fairfield.  
 
 The fun in running in to people and being introduced as being from 
 Fairfield is to see that interest in folks where they recognize 
 Fairfield for what is has become. Where they can tell that it is 
much 
 more than the TMmovement and that the meditator community is in 
fact 
 way more diverse.  Even made up of folks like everyone else except 
 that meditators pursue active spiritual practice here.  That it is 
 way more than TM, is very utopian, large in thinking but that 
it 
 is in fact also very American.   
 

 
 Fairfield. Meditators. The meditating churches, the meditating 
 satsangs, some meditators remaining on campus,the meditators up in 
 VC, the meditating community off-campus out in FF  meditators out 
in 
 the greater Jefferson County area.
 
 
 
 This `outside view' essay was part of a larger book chronicling the 
 life of Brook Farm, an early-American transcendentalist utopian 
 communal experiment of the 1840's, similar in ways to Fairfield.
 
 This is a good read: 
 http://infomotions.com/etexts/gutenberg/dirs/etext05/brkfm10.htm
 
 
 -Doug in FF
 
 
 
 AN OUTSIDE VIEW OF Communal (Meditating Fairfield). Critical 
Analysis:
 
 _From the Dial of January, 1844._
 
 Though familiarly designated a Community, it is only so in the
 process of eating in commons; a practice at least as antiquated as 
the
 collegiate halls of old England, where it still continues without
 producing, as far as we can learn, any of the Spartan virtues. A
 residence at (meditating Fairfield) does not involve either a 
 community of money,
 of opinions or of sympathy. The motives which bring individuals 
there,
 may be as various as their numbers. In fact, the present residents 
are
 divisible into three distinct classes; and if the majority in 
numbers
 were considered, it is possible that a vote in favor of self-
sacrifice
 for the common good would not be very strongly carried.
 
 The leading portion of the adult inmates, they whose presence 
imparts
 the greatest peculiarity and the fraternal tone to the household,
 believe that an improved state of existence would be developed in
 Association, and are therefore anxious to promote it. Another class
 consists of those who join with the view of bettering their 
condition,
 by being exempt from some portion of worldly strife. The third 
portion
 comprises those who have their own development or education for 
their
 principal object.
 
 Practically, too, the institution manifests a threefold improvement
 over the world at large, corresponding to these three motives. In
 consequence of the first, the companionship, the personal 
intercourse,
 the social bearing, are of a marked and very superior character. 
There
 may possibly to some minds, long accustomed to other modes, appear a
 want of homeness and of the private fireside; but all observers must
 acknowledge a brotherly and softening condition, highly conducive to
 the permanent and pleasant growth of all the better human 
qualities. 
 If
 the life is not of a deeply religious cast, it is at least not 
 inferior
 to that which is exemplified elsewhere, and there is the advantage 
of
 an entire absence of assumption and pretence. The moral atmosphere, 
so
 far, is pure; and there is found a strong desire to walk ever on the
 mountain tops of life; though taste, rather than piety, is the 
aspect
 presented to the eye.
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Roberto babajii_99@ wrote:
  snip
   He clearly has the ability to inspire, and to bring people
   together.
  
  Some of us aren't at all sure, Robert, that he
  has the ability to do anything *else*.
 
 Exactly. Obama singing Kumbaya with Oprah in the Whitehouse
 may generate lots of warm fuzzies, but warm fuzzies don't get
 the job done. Obama is a fantastic orator, but I get no sense
 of Obama, the effective, well-informed policy wonk.

Even the Kumbaya bit may be something of a sham,
given his pointed snub of Hillary Clinton last
night at the SOTU when she came over to shake
Teddy Kennedy's hand.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...

2008-01-29 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
  drpetersutphen@ wrote:
  
   Very funny. I just watched the original TC video
  all
   over again and it really is so disturbing in its
   narcissism. Kind of reminds me of myself talking
  about
   the perfection of TM 30 years ago!
  
  You put your finger on what repulses me about it...I
  recognize my own
  past!
 
 That absolute certitude that you are right...no, not
 right, but RIGHT!!! Confounding the conviction of your
 belief with certitude. So profoundly immature.

Like suggesting that some young fellow ought to remove a mole in his 
face because it is distracting ? ;-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going 
to waste on this silliness before they stop beating each 
*other* up?
  
   Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
   of spunge-brain syndrome.
  
   Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
   go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
   that they're making absolute asses of themselves.
  
  A good glass of wine would do wonders.
 
 I suspect it would take a whole bottle before 
 either of them ever even *approached* being
 human.  :-)

Shut up, Barry. You're irrelevant.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:30 AM, authfriend wrote:


I think she'd be a lot tougher for them to
steamroll than Bill was. She's tougher all
the way around than Bill and more committed
to change.


Then why hasn't any of that been obvious during her 7 years in office  
so far?  She's gone along with the worst excesses of the Bush/Cheney  
cabal, as far as I can tell.


Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread TurquoiseB
   Anyone want to bet on how many posts these two are going 
   to waste on this silliness before they stop beating each 
   *other* up?
 
  Sal, it's the result of the devastating effects
  of spunge-brain syndrome.
 
  Those who suffer from this horrible disease can
  go on like this for YEARS and still not realize
  that they're making absolute asses of themselves.
 
 A good glass of wine would do wonders.

I suspect it would take a whole bottle before 
either of them ever even *approached* being
human.  :-)

The gist of this act seems to be, Ok everyone
on FFL, watch as I demonstrate how incredibly
dumb/ignorant of the facts/lazy/duplicitous 
my opponent is.

Shemp's trying to do this to Judy. 

Judy's trying to do this to Shemp.

Both of them think we in the audience are 
interested in the results.

Hasn't it ever occurred to *either* of them what
happens if they win and prove that the other
person IS as dumb as they think he/she is?

The winner will have proved that the loser
is a bit of a retard.

And by doing so, the winner will have proved
that he or she GETS OFF ON DEBATING WITH RETARDS.

Now THAT's a real challenge, right?

:-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 snip
   If you're not willing to go to the trouble to find
   out what each of them really said, why should
   anybody take your opinion seriously?
  
  This is why Judy has never, ever been wrong in a debate.
 
 Actually, it's why you've never, ever been right
 in a debate with me--because you simply refuse to
 do your homework, and then you crap out. It's just
 sheer intellectual sloth. Why should I--why should
 anybody--waste time debating somebody who doesn't
 know what the hell they're talking about?
 
 And I'm hardly the first person to point this out
 to you, Shemp.


Amen!







[FairfieldLife] Keeping track of the *national* primary delegate count

2008-01-29 Thread do.rflex


Republican Candidates:

These delegate counts represent CNN's most recent total for each
candidate and break down pledged delegates and unpledged RNC member
delegates, according to CNN's most recent survey of unpledged RNC members.
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#R

Democratic Candidates:

These delegate counts represent CNN's most recent total for each
candidate and break down pledged delegates and superdelegates,
according to CNN's most recent survey of superdelegates.
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell hath frozen over

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
  snip
Thing is, Obama has *no* idea of what he'll be
facing if he gets elected. Hillary has a much
clearer idea of what the score will be and what
she'll have to do to get things done. The
opposition will be overwhelming, but forewarned
is forearmed. She'll at least have more of a
chance. The conservatives will eat Obama and his
warm fuzzies for breakfast; Hillary will give them
enough indigestion to slow them down a bit.
   
   ...you mean the way her husband slowed down the Conservatives
   during his 8 years in office?
  
  I think she'd be a lot tougher for them to
  steamroll than Bill was. She's tougher all
  the way around than Bill and more committed
  to change.
 
 Thank you for that, Judy.
 
 I don't know if you realize it or not, but, above, you have, for 
 the first time since we've been having this same conversation for 
 5+ years, finally acknowledged -- at least implicitly -- that Bill 
 was conservative.

Um, no. Bill was and is a centrist Democrat,
as is Hillary.

And we haven't been having this same conversation
for 5+ years. I can't recall ever commenting on
your Bill Clinton was a conservative trolls;
the idea was too bonkers to waste time on. I'm
responding now only to correct your false
attribution of that view to me.

 Whether he was steamrolled and not tough
 enough...or...he assented to the legislation in
 question because he thought it best for the
 country is another issue

That's a pretty strange definition, but if it
helps you keep things nice and simple so you
don't actually have to *think* about what
happened during his presidency, you're welcome
to it.




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 And getting laid, of course in the correct vastu with
 the appropriate ayurvedic unguents.
 

May I ask, what is the correct vastu for getting laid?  Close your
eyes and think of the Maharishi?




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title

2008-01-29 Thread Peter

--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Mr. Archer et al,
  
  I tried to post to this thread last night but
 cannot find it. I may
  have done something wrong.  
  
  Rather than attempt to re-write my memories of my
 friend Scott 
 Girard
  from high school and college, I would like to
 simply repeat my 
 request
  that, as there appears to be no adult supervision
 on this discussion
  group, perhaps all of you might take your little
 arguments about
  exercise and your vicious threats against each
 other to a different
  subject line in order to stop the disrespect you
 are bringing to the
  name of a good and gentle man.
  
  This is precisely the kind of childishness that
 would have upset 
 Scott
  the most. Were he to have learned that so many
 people have time to
  criticize each other behind anonymous pen-names,
 he would have been
  saddened indeed. I am certain he would ask all of
 you to rise above
  it, to seek to spend your limited time here on
 more significant
  matters. And, above all, he would ask you to stop
 with the childish
  name-calling and meaningless physical threats.
  
  So, please, start a thread called To exercise or
 not or something
  like that and let poor Scott and his memory
 actually begin to rest 
 in
  peace.
  
  Tim Rowan
  Colorado Springs
 
 
 Dear Mr. Rowan,
 
 By suggesting that our silly yet insignificant
 bickering on this 
 forum is preventing Mr. Girard's soul from finding
 peace, you imply 
 that he spent the better part of 30 years on a
 program -- called The 
 Thousand-Headed Purusha Progarm -- that wasn't very
 effective.  
 After all, if all that rounding and deep meditation
 and countless 
 hours spent at the feet of his Master, Maharishi
 Mahesh Yogi, wasn't 
 enough to create a barrier of invincibility to
 overcome our 
 admittedly childish infighting then what exactly are
 YOU saying about 
 the most important choice that Mr. Girard made
 during his lifetime?
 
 I would therefore humbly suggest, Mr. Rowan, that it
 YOU who is 
 showing disrespect for the dearly departed by
 implying that he was 
 both wasting his time and had bad judgement by
 choosing a spiritual 
 path that didn't achieve the most basic results one
 would, at the 
 very least, expect from more than three decades of
 devotion.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 The Reverend, Most Perfect Shemp McGurk

Jesus, man. Cut Tim some slack. He's bothered that a
thread about a great guy passing away devolved into a
ridiculous series of posts about exercise without a
thread name change. He's right. Obviously Tim knew
Scott quite well and is simply asking for some respect
for Scott.  Why can't we take Tim's request to heart
without the sarcastic nonsense and name calling?
Please, nobody answer that question!







 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Hell hath frozen over

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
 snip
   Thing is, Obama has *no* idea of what he'll be
   facing if he gets elected. Hillary has a much
   clearer idea of what the score will be and what
   she'll have to do to get things done. The
   opposition will be overwhelming, but forewarned
   is forearmed. She'll at least have more of a
   chance. The conservatives will eat Obama and his
   warm fuzzies for breakfast; Hillary will give them
   enough indigestion to slow them down a bit.
  
  ...you mean the way her husband slowed down the Conservatives
  during his 8 years in office?
 
 I think she'd be a lot tougher for them to
 steamroll than Bill was. She's tougher all
 the way around than Bill and more committed
 to change.

Thank you for that, Judy.

I don't know if you realize it or not, but, above, you have, for the 
first time since we've been having this same conversation for 5+ 
years, finally acknowledged -- at least implicitly -- that Bill was 
conservative.  Whether he was steamrolled and not tough 
enough...or...he assented to the legislation in question because he 
thought it best for the country is another issue; your 
acknowledgement is well appreciated.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:44 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:




And getting laid, of course in the correct vastu with
the appropriate ayurvedic unguents.



May I ask, what is the correct vastu for getting laid?  Close your
eyes and think of the Maharishi?


While facing east.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What Kind of People are the Clintons?'

2008-01-29 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 
 ...you mean the way her husband slowed down the Conservatives during 
 his 8 years in office?
 
 You mean the way he signed NAFTA, the Welfare Reform Act, balanced 
 the budget, supported the death penalty, the Defense of Marriage Act, 
 etc.?
 
 Yup, bring on Hillary and Bill, the most conservative president of 
 the last 50 years.

Welfare reform was vetoed at least twice before he finally signed it.
 Family Medical Leave Act passed under his watch.  Expansion of the
earned income credit was a significant piece of legislation.  The
Brady bill passed.  Even though health care reform did not pass, very
significant protections were obtained for consumers through health
insurance portability legislation.  

I can't recall what the trades were for the defense of marriage act. 

He and Hillary worked hard on health care reform.  Those against the
reform were well financed and aggressive.  The final plan ended up
with too many compromises, which made it difficult to sell in a sound
bite.  Interestingly, much has changed since that time and many of
those who lobbied against the efforts are now supportive of some
version of guaranteed health care.  As a lobbyist on this issue, the
whole exercise was probably a necessary step.  Hillary is much more in
tune with this issue, my issue, than is Obama.  However, at least
Obama and the other democrats see that there are significant problems
in the health care and health insurance industries that need work. 
Unlike the republicans who think that the market and health savings
accounts will take care of the issue. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell hath frozen over

2008-01-29 Thread Duveyoung
Shemp,

Your title: Hell hath frozen over er, is that your way of jabbing
another elbow into Al Gore's side?

I mean, it's one thing to think the world is not getting hotter, but
to think that Hell is not only getting cold but freezing cold seems to
me to be typical of your exaggerationist posting style.  Sorry, this
is a concept you may not be able to face yet and be, yep, there it is:
an inconvenient truth.

You need a trikking.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 
 [snip]
 .
  
  Um, no. Bill was and is a centrist Democrat,
  as is Hillary.
  
  And we haven't been having this same conversation
  for 5+ years. I can't recall ever commenting on
  your Bill Clinton was a conservative trolls;
  the idea was too bonkers to waste time on. I'm
  responding now only to correct your false
  attribution of that view to me.
 
 
 [snip]
 
 All I can do is offer evidence of why Bill Clinton is and was 
 conservative, which I have done.
 
 All you can do to offer evidence that he was and is a centrist 
 Democrat is...to say it and NOT offer evidence.
 
 Of course, I consider it a victory for someone, like yourself, who is 
 extreme left-wing to even acknowledge, as you do above, that both 
 Bill and Hillary are centrist Democrats.
 
 Again, thanks for that.
 
 Oh, and please: keep voting for her!





[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Yeah, Curtis, my folks; the back stories are equally interesting.  
And as you can see, the red wine (and the vodka) apparently haven't 
diminished their capacities too much.  It's just a life and every 
life is a story that each one of us has the opportunity to enrich 
every day.  I always appreciate the stories shared on this forum with 
a community I feel so lucky to be a member of.

Marek

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@
 wrote:
 
  Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told last 
year 
  to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied 
with 
  some inexpensive red wine.
 
 Totally blown away!  Thanks for sending this Marek.  Your folks?  
What
 a fascinating couple.  What a life!  I live for stories like this!
 
 
 
 
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU
  
  **
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   
 
Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
  anesthetic 
it creates dullness.
   
   I understand the alcohol bad position and lived it for years. 
If
   that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the 
last
   attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too 
much,
   and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the 
set 
  and
   setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a 
part
   of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
   
   A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in 
the
   background.
   
   Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after 
your
   last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and 
have
   many questions about what blues artists they should download.
   
   A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who 
just
   came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
   
   A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while 
eating
   Chesapeake Bay crabs.
   
   Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how 
they
   survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating 
sheep
   feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's 
olive
   harvest.
   
   Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your 
  Vietnamese
   friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
   
   A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their 
horses.
   
   Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating 
home
   style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
   
   Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over 
the
   traditional meal she cooked for you.
   
   Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. 
(limes,sugar
   and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching 
World
   Cup soccer. 
   
   A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
   experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the 
occupation 
  of
Japan.
   
   Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, 
with 
  a
   glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
   
   A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your 
girlfriend
   while the snow falls outside.
   
   Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the 
shared
   beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink 
that
   connects people.  Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an 
attitude. 
   It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special 
version.  
  You
   may associate it with dullness if you prefer.  I prefer to 
associate
   it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during 
  conversation.

   
 

Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an 
active 
  brain-
drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol 
  abuse 
distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the 
`social 
drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction 
  caused 
by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic 
beverages. 
  Even 
low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it 
difficult 
  for 
the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, 
  ethanol 
acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very 
much 
  in 
the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly 
toxic.
{nutramed.com, Apr. 2003} 

http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
 conservative 
  records:
  
  The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
  
  http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
  
  The second from a right-winger:
  
  
 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
  for_hillary
  
  The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or Robert 
 the 
  Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:
  
  http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
  
  But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue on 
with 
  the illusion that the Clintons are centrist Democrats.  Why, to 
  take an alternative position would mean that you would actually 
  have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!
 
 Funny, because triangulating from these three
 pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
 is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.


Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the fastest known 
rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the time you 
posted.

Nice try.

Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the articles 
show anything but what I suggested.




[FairfieldLife] CBS News report on Maharish's retirement

2008-01-29 Thread george_deforest
CBS News report on Maharish's retirement
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/29/ap/world/main3766030.shtml

Maharishi Retreats Into Silence

Indian Guru To The Beatles Retreats Into Silence, 
Gives Up Control Of Meditation Movement

THE HAGUE, Netherlands, Jan. 29, 2008

[3 Photos]

(AP) It was 1967 and the Indian meditation guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
dressed in white with long flowing black hair and a gray beard, beamed
as he stood surrounded by four smiling young Beatles at the peak of
their popularity.

George Harrison, clutching a sitar, John Lennon, Paul McCartney and
Ringo Starr were on their way to a retreat in Wales led by the
Maharishi, and the Hindu holy man was on his way to worldwide fame.

It has been more than 50 years since the Maharishi began teaching a
technique known as Transcendental Meditation. He is now believed to be
91 and on Tuesday, a close adviser said he has retreated into near
silence and turned over the day-to-day running of his global network
to aides.

He is not as young as he once was, adviser John Hagelin, an American
physicist, said by telephone from the Dutch village of Vlodrop where
the TM movement is now headquartered. I think he probably has a more
limited reserve of physical energy to draw upon. He was working ... 20
hours a day for years.

Transcendental Meditation, or TM, is a 20-minute twice daily routine
in which the meditator silently focuses on a sound, or mantra, to
induce relaxation and dive into a state of pure consciousness.

Most scientists agree TM can ease stress, high blood pressure, pain
and insomnia. But some argue it is no more effective than many other
mind-body relaxation techniques.

Movie director David Lynch once extolled the virtues of TM in a speech.

Anger, stress, tension, depression, sorrow, hate, fear -- these things
start to retreat, said Lynch, a longtime practitioner. And for a
filmmaker, having this negativity lift away is money in the bank. When
you're suffering you can't create.

The Maharishi's movement claims some 6 million people have become
practitioners.

But it was not until the Beatles visited his ashram in India in 1968
that the guru became an icon of the counterculture movement. John,
Paul, George and Ringo came for spiritual instruction as they
struggled to come to terms with the death of their manager Brian Epstein.

Other celebrities who followed the Maharishi's teachings included
singer Donovan, actress Mia Farrow and the Beach Boys.

The attention his famous followers focused on the Maharishi's movement
turned it into a global phenomenon with outposts in some 130
countries. For the last 17 years, he has run it from a former
Franciscan monastery in a secluded forest near Vlodrop, an eastern
Dutch village near the German border. He often spent hours on end
speaking by video links to followers around the globe.

The Maharishi told senior aides at a Jan. 8 meeting in the Netherlands
of his plan to withdraw from administrative duties and spend his time
absorbed in the ancient Indian texts that underpin his movement. The
announcement caught many followers off guard.

He had been involved very dynamically administratively in his
worldwide movement for over 50 years, so it's quite a significant
change to see him dive back purely into knowledge and let other people
take care of the administration, Hagelin said.

There is no one designated successor but many people have been trained
for years to carry on the Maharishi's various tasks, Hagelin said.

The Maharishi -- a Hindi-language title for Great Seer -- now spends his
days in silence contemplating and preparing a commentary on the Vedas,
a vast Sanskrit canon compiled some 3,500 years ago, from which he
evolves solutions for today's troubled world.

I think everybody's quietly feeling some sense of celebration that
he's finally going to complete his commentary on the Vedas, which
probably will have a longer-term impact, Hagelin said. It's a
vitally important body of literature.

The Maharishi is believed to have been born Jan. 12, 1917, in central
India. He earned a physics degree from Allahabad University, was the
longtime secretary to a leading Hindu sage, then wen into silent
retreat for two years in the northern Indian hills.

In 1955, he began teaching Transcendental Meditation and took his
technique to the United States in 1959.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Vaj


On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:


here's another story I think you might enjoy told last year
to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied with
some inexpensive red wine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU



I always knew there was something special about you! What a wonderful  
story and historythanks so much for sharing this with all of us!

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
  conservative 
   records:
   
   The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
   
   
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
   
   The second from a right-winger:
   
   
  
 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
   for_hillary
   
   The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or 
Robert 
  the 
   Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:
   
   http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
   
   But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue on 
 with 
   the illusion that the Clintons are centrist Democrats.  Why, 
to 
   take an alternative position would mean that you would actually 
   have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!
  
  Funny, because triangulating from these three
  pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
  is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.
 
 Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the fastest
 known rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the
 time you posted.

Don't be silly. I read fast, and they aren't *that*
long. Took me about a half an hour. I did just skim
the last half of the third one, though.

 Nice try.
 
 Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the
 articles show anything but what I suggested.

Read them again, Shemp. They don't say what you wish
they said.




[FairfieldLife] Re: ATT plans to filter the Internet - [video included]

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
an interesting thing has happened when, on several occasions, 
corporations have attempted to monitor copyrighted material: there 
has been an enormous backlash that then threatens the economic 
viability of the corporation itself.

It has happened to Google, Yahoo!, and DIGG...all of whom quickly 
backed off once it got out onto the internet that they were 
attempting to monitor.

I suspect the same thing will happen with ATT.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This would really mess them up. :)
 
 eqjkjOJIENONDldjishjengypaioneonfdiLX898DLknd
 asjie89d,enogyryuilkdne40d89vnflahdlls-dkjelagyu
 si89dyutntleygnirnxxxeelxi - dsse998nnbe
 x978f8-4l289cnfdsxx9ff
 
 do.rflex wrote:
  ATT is planning to open all packets on the Internet, and 
examine
  them for intellectual property violations. Email, IM, everything. 
So,
  when Boing-Boing writer Joel Johnson was invited onto ATT's Hugh
  Johnson Show to talk about gadgets, he decided to talk about that 
instead.
 
  Naturally, the show's crew calls a halt to the show almost as 
soon as
  Joel lets the cat out of the bag, but not before the audience has
  called out No! to Joel's question: Do you want ATT reading 
your mail?
 
 
  VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY6cCGENlj8
 
 
  Here's what happened afterwards:
 
 
  As you can see from the video, the crew ended up scrubbing the
  interview about half-way through. Figuring that might happen, I 
asked
  my steely-nerved friend Richard Blakeley to tape the first take. I
  wanted to make sure that we had a record of the event, primarily 
to
  ensure that ATT would have no reason to try to bury the interview
  entirely—the same reason I am running this clip now, while 
discussion
  about what to do with my segment in post-production is surely 
underway.
 
  After the crew got their wits about them—they were not very 
happy
  with me, understandably—we went on to shoot a second take, which 
to
  Hugh's credit also included not only talk of gadgets, but of 
network
  neutrality and ATT's collusion with the NSA. I look forward to 
seeing
  that segment air on the The Hugh Thompson Show.
 
  The crew was upset with me not only because I was making 
their job
  more difficult, but because they feared that my stunt would cost 
them
  their jobs. Everyone looked at the staff member who booked me on 
the
  show with sad eyes, assuring me that he would certainly be fired.
  After their initial panic at an interview gone off the rails the 
crew
  acted professionally and efficiently to continue shooting the 
show. If
  ATT ends up letting a single person go from that crew, shame on 
them.
  What I chose to do has nothing to do with the crew or Mr. Thompson
  himself, who despite being visibly perturbed handled the whole 
mess
  like troupers.  =
 
 
  There's some discussion over at 'Slate' about whether it's even
  technically possible for ATT to do this. Wouldn't it be 
interesting
  if ATT was simply leveraging and privatizing technology it had
  already been paid to develop under Bush's warrantless surveillance
  program?
 
  Why does ATT want to know what you're downloading?
  SEE Slate article: http://www.slate.com/id/2182152/fr/rss/
 
 
  Via: 
http://www.correntewire.com/at_ts_plans_to_filter_the_internet
 
 
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Maybe it's me...

2008-01-29 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  --- curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
   drpetersutphen@ wrote:
   
Very funny. I just watched the original TC video
   all
over again and it really is so disturbing in its
narcissism. Kind of reminds me of myself talking
   about
the perfection of TM 30 years ago!
   
   You put your finger on what repulses me about it...I
   recognize my own
   past!
  
  That absolute certitude that you are right...no, not
  right, but RIGHT!!! Confounding the conviction of your
  belief with certitude. So profoundly immature.
 
 Like suggesting that some young fellow ought to remove a mole in his 
 face because it is distracting ? ;-)

It was me, not Dr. Pete, who suggested the young fellow have the
humongous mole removed from his face. However, I now know the error of
my ways and have been reeducated and rehabilitated. I understand now
that facial moles are the key to financial success. After all, look at
Cindy Crawford or Marilyn Monroe or even me... scientific proof that
moles on the face are money magnets.



[FairfieldLife] For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's conservative 
records:

The first from the left-wing New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza

The second from a right-winger:

http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
for_hillary

The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or Robert the 
Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:

http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml

But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue on with 
the illusion that the Clintons are centrist Democrats.  Why, to 
take an alternative position would mean that you would actually have 
to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title

2008-01-29 Thread tertonzeno
--All true, shemp!  For beginners, in the Sant Mat Tradition, there's 
a statement to the effect that their goal (what MMY calls GC) takes 3 
lifetimes; not 5-7 years, or whatever. 



- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  --- shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
   rick@ wrote:
   
Mr. Archer et al,

I tried to post to this thread last night but
   cannot find it. I may
have done something wrong.  

Rather than attempt to re-write my memories of my
   friend Scott 
   Girard
from high school and college, I would like to
   simply repeat my 
   request
that, as there appears to be no adult supervision
   on this discussion
group, perhaps all of you might take your little
   arguments about
exercise and your vicious threats against each
   other to a different
subject line in order to stop the disrespect you
   are bringing to the
name of a good and gentle man.

This is precisely the kind of childishness that
   would have upset 
   Scott
the most. Were he to have learned that so many
   people have time to
criticize each other behind anonymous pen-names,
   he would have been
saddened indeed. I am certain he would ask all of
   you to rise above
it, to seek to spend your limited time here on
   more significant
matters. And, above all, he would ask you to stop
   with the childish
name-calling and meaningless physical threats.

So, please, start a thread called To exercise or
   not or something
like that and let poor Scott and his memory
   actually begin to rest 
   in
peace.

Tim Rowan
Colorado Springs
   
   
   Dear Mr. Rowan,
   
   By suggesting that our silly yet insignificant
   bickering on this 
   forum is preventing Mr. Girard's soul from finding
   peace, you imply 
   that he spent the better part of 30 years on a
   program -- called The 
   Thousand-Headed Purusha Progarm -- that wasn't very
   effective.  
   After all, if all that rounding and deep meditation
   and countless 
   hours spent at the feet of his Master, Maharishi
   Mahesh Yogi, wasn't 
   enough to create a barrier of invincibility to
   overcome our 
   admittedly childish infighting then what exactly are
   YOU saying about 
   the most important choice that Mr. Girard made
   during his lifetime?
   
   I would therefore humbly suggest, Mr. Rowan, that it
   YOU who is 
   showing disrespect for the dearly departed by
   implying that he was 
   both wasting his time and had bad judgement by
   choosing a spiritual 
   path that didn't achieve the most basic results one
   would, at the 
   very least, expect from more than three decades of
   devotion.
   
   Sincerely,
   
   The Reverend, Most Perfect Shemp McGurk
  
  Jesus, man. Cut Tim some slack. He's bothered that a
  thread about a great guy passing away devolved into a
  ridiculous series of posts about exercise without a
  thread name change. He's right. Obviously Tim knew
  Scott quite well and is simply asking for some respect
  for Scott.  Why can't we take Tim's request to heart
  without the sarcastic nonsense and name calling?
  Please, nobody answer that question!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 It really irked me that he referred to Scott (someone I never heard 
 of nor knew) as poor Scott.  That really probably more insulting 
to 
 his memory than anyone else.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell hath frozen over

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 

[snip]
.
 
 Um, no. Bill was and is a centrist Democrat,
 as is Hillary.
 
 And we haven't been having this same conversation
 for 5+ years. I can't recall ever commenting on
 your Bill Clinton was a conservative trolls;
 the idea was too bonkers to waste time on. I'm
 responding now only to correct your false
 attribution of that view to me.


[snip]

All I can do is offer evidence of why Bill Clinton is and was 
conservative, which I have done.

All you can do to offer evidence that he was and is a centrist 
Democrat is...to say it and NOT offer evidence.

Of course, I consider it a victory for someone, like yourself, who is 
extreme left-wing to even acknowledge, as you do above, that both 
Bill and Hillary are centrist Democrats.

Again, thanks for that.

Oh, and please: keep voting for her!



[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told last year 
to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied with 
some inexpensive red wine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   
  Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
anesthetic 
  it creates dullness.
 
 I understand the alcohol bad position and lived it for years. If
 that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
 attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
 and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the set 
and
 setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
 of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
 
 A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
 background.
 
 Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
 last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
 many questions about what blues artists they should download.
 
 A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
 came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
 
 A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
 Chesapeake Bay crabs.
 
 Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
 survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
 feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
 harvest.
 
 Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your 
Vietnamese
 friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
 
 A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
 
 Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
 style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
 
 Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
 traditional meal she cooked for you.
 
 Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
 and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
 Cup soccer. 
 
 A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
 experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation 
of
  Japan.
 
 Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with 
a
 glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
 
 A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
 while the snow falls outside.
 
 Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
 beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
 connects people.  Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude. 
 It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version.  
You
 may associate it with dullness if you prefer.  I prefer to associate
 it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during 
conversation.
  
 
   
  
  Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active 
brain-
  drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol 
abuse 
  distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social 
  drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction 
caused 
  by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. 
Even 
  low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult 
for 
  the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, 
ethanol 
  acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much 
in 
  the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
  {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003} 
  
  http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title

2008-01-29 Thread Larry

There is wisdom in showing grace when given an opportunity, and wisdom
in not filing a grievance with every real or alleged fault of another.
 The wisdom being that, in giving grace, you will be more 'eligible'
when grace comes your way . . . anyways, this seems like good advice
my grandma told me.

Does anyone have any photos of Scott, or any tales?  I wonder if I
ever met him?

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:
 
  
  --- shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
   rick@ wrote:
   
Mr. Archer et al,

I tried to post to this thread last night but
   cannot find it. I may
have done something wrong.  

Rather than attempt to re-write my memories of my
   friend Scott 
   Girard
from high school and college, I would like to
   simply repeat my 
   request
that, as there appears to be no adult supervision
   on this discussion
group, perhaps all of you might take your little
   arguments about
exercise and your vicious threats against each
   other to a different
subject line in order to stop the disrespect you
   are bringing to the
name of a good and gentle man.

This is precisely the kind of childishness that
   would have upset 
   Scott
the most. Were he to have learned that so many
   people have time to
criticize each other behind anonymous pen-names,
   he would have been
saddened indeed. I am certain he would ask all of
   you to rise above
it, to seek to spend your limited time here on
   more significant
matters. And, above all, he would ask you to stop
   with the childish
name-calling and meaningless physical threats.

So, please, start a thread called To exercise or
   not or something
like that and let poor Scott and his memory
   actually begin to rest 
   in
peace.

Tim Rowan
Colorado Springs
   
   
   Dear Mr. Rowan,
   
   By suggesting that our silly yet insignificant
   bickering on this 
   forum is preventing Mr. Girard's soul from finding
   peace, you imply 
   that he spent the better part of 30 years on a
   program -- called The 
   Thousand-Headed Purusha Progarm -- that wasn't very
   effective.  
   After all, if all that rounding and deep meditation
   and countless 
   hours spent at the feet of his Master, Maharishi
   Mahesh Yogi, wasn't 
   enough to create a barrier of invincibility to
   overcome our 
   admittedly childish infighting then what exactly are
   YOU saying about 
   the most important choice that Mr. Girard made
   during his lifetime?
   
   I would therefore humbly suggest, Mr. Rowan, that it
   YOU who is 
   showing disrespect for the dearly departed by
   implying that he was 
   both wasting his time and had bad judgement by
   choosing a spiritual 
   path that didn't achieve the most basic results one
   would, at the 
   very least, expect from more than three decades of
   devotion.
   
   Sincerely,
   
   The Reverend, Most Perfect Shemp McGurk
  
  Jesus, man. Cut Tim some slack. He's bothered that a
  thread about a great guy passing away devolved into a
  ridiculous series of posts about exercise without a
  thread name change. He's right. Obviously Tim knew
  Scott quite well and is simply asking for some respect
  for Scott.  Why can't we take Tim's request to heart
  without the sarcastic nonsense and name calling?
  Please, nobody answer that question!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 It really irked me that he referred to Scott (someone I never heard 
 of nor knew) as poor Scott.  That really probably more insulting to 
 his memory than anyone else.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   
   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hell hath frozen over

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Shemp,
 
 Your title: Hell hath frozen over er, is that your way of jabbing
 another elbow into Al Gore's side?
 
 I mean, it's one thing to think the world is not getting hotter, but
 to think that Hell is not only getting cold but freezing cold seems 
to
 me to be typical of your exaggerationist posting style.  Sorry, this
 is a concept you may not be able to face yet and be, yep, there it 
is:
 an inconvenient truth.
 
 You need a trikking.
 
 Edg




Like the news that the polar ice caps on Mars is also melting, I'm 
sure that if hell was, indeed, frozen over, the Global-Warming 
alarmists would find some way of blaming it on CO2 and George Bush.


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  
  [snip]
  .
   
   Um, no. Bill was and is a centrist Democrat,
   as is Hillary.
   
   And we haven't been having this same conversation
   for 5+ years. I can't recall ever commenting on
   your Bill Clinton was a conservative trolls;
   the idea was too bonkers to waste time on. I'm
   responding now only to correct your false
   attribution of that view to me.
  
  
  [snip]
  
  All I can do is offer evidence of why Bill Clinton is and was 
  conservative, which I have done.
  
  All you can do to offer evidence that he was and is a centrist 
  Democrat is...to say it and NOT offer evidence.
  
  Of course, I consider it a victory for someone, like yourself, 
who is 
  extreme left-wing to even acknowledge, as you do above, that both 
  Bill and Hillary are centrist Democrats.
  
  Again, thanks for that.
  
  Oh, and please: keep voting for her!
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Request to change RIP Scott Girard thread title

2008-01-29 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote:
 It really irked me that he referred to Scott (someone I never heard 
 of nor knew) as poor Scott.  That really probably more insulting to 
 his memory than anyone else.

   
I kinda don't understand why anyone would  get upset about the exercise 
thread.  It was meant in concern of the guy having cardiovascular 
disease and not intended in any disrespect.  And too be fair people do 
hijack threads here because they're too lazy (or ignorant) to start a 
new topic.   But the guy going off on the group also made him look like 
a TMco droid.




[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told last year 
 to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied with 
 some inexpensive red wine.

Totally blown away!  Thanks for sending this Marek.  Your folks?  What
a fascinating couple.  What a life!  I live for stories like this!




 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU
 
 **
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  

   Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
 anesthetic 
   it creates dullness.
  
  I understand the alcohol bad position and lived it for years. If
  that is how you enjoy to live, good for you.  Dullness is the last
  attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
  and drink with the right people.  Removing the drink from the set 
 and
  setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO.  It can be a part
  of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
  
  A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
  background.
  
  Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
  last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
  many questions about what blues artists they should download.
  
  A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
  came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
  
  A chilled  Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
  Chesapeake Bay crabs.
  
  Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
  survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
  feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
  harvest.
  
  Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your 
 Vietnamese
  friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
  
  A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
  
  Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
  style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
  
  Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
  traditional meal she cooked for you.
  
  Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
  and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
  Cup soccer. 
  
  A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
  experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation 
 of
   Japan.
  
  Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with 
 a
  glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
  
  A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
  while the snow falls outside.
  
  Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
  beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
  connects people.  Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude. 
  It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version.  
 You
  may associate it with dullness if you prefer.  I prefer to associate
  it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during 
 conversation.
   
  

   
   Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active 
 brain-
   drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol 
 abuse 
   distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social 
   drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction 
 caused 
   by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. 
 Even 
   low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult 
 for 
   the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, 
 ethanol 
   acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much 
 in 
   the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
   {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003} 
   
   http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
conservative 
 records:
 
 The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
 
 http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
 
 The second from a right-winger:
 
 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
 for_hillary
 
 The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or Robert 
the 
 Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:
 
 http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
 
 But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue on with 
 the illusion that the Clintons are centrist Democrats.  Why, to 
 take an alternative position would mean that you would actually 
 have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!

Funny, because triangulating from these three
pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.




[FairfieldLife] ATT plans to filter the Internet - [video included]

2008-01-29 Thread do.rflex


ATT is planning to open all packets on the Internet, and examine
them for intellectual property violations. Email, IM, everything. So,
when Boing-Boing writer Joel Johnson was invited onto ATT's Hugh
Johnson Show to talk about gadgets, he decided to talk about that instead.

Naturally, the show's crew calls a halt to the show almost as soon as
Joel lets the cat out of the bag, but not before the audience has
called out No! to Joel's question: Do you want ATT reading your mail?


VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY6cCGENlj8


Here's what happened afterwards:


As you can see from the video, the crew ended up scrubbing the
interview about half-way through. Figuring that might happen, I asked
my steely-nerved friend Richard Blakeley to tape the first take. I
wanted to make sure that we had a record of the event, primarily to
ensure that ATT would have no reason to try to bury the interview
entirely—the same reason I am running this clip now, while discussion
about what to do with my segment in post-production is surely underway.

After the crew got their wits about them—they were not very happy
with me, understandably—we went on to shoot a second take, which to
Hugh's credit also included not only talk of gadgets, but of network
neutrality and ATT's collusion with the NSA. I look forward to seeing
that segment air on the The Hugh Thompson Show.

The crew was upset with me not only because I was making their job
more difficult, but because they feared that my stunt would cost them
their jobs. Everyone looked at the staff member who booked me on the
show with sad eyes, assuring me that he would certainly be fired.
After their initial panic at an interview gone off the rails the crew
acted professionally and efficiently to continue shooting the show. If
ATT ends up letting a single person go from that crew, shame on them.
What I chose to do has nothing to do with the crew or Mr. Thompson
himself, who despite being visibly perturbed handled the whole mess
like troupers.  =


There's some discussion over at 'Slate' about whether it's even
technically possible for ATT to do this. Wouldn't it be interesting
if ATT was simply leveraging and privatizing technology it had
already been paid to develop under Bush's warrantless surveillance
program?

Why does ATT want to know what you're downloading?
SEE Slate article: http://www.slate.com/id/2182152/fr/rss/


Via: http://www.correntewire.com/at_ts_plans_to_filter_the_internet





[FairfieldLife] Re: CBS News report on Maharish's retirement

2008-01-29 Thread mainstream20016

No mention of Nader Ram as successor..hhh. I'm not surprised.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 CBS News report on Maharish's retirement
 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/29/ap/world/main3766030.shtml
 
 Maharishi Retreats Into Silence
 
 Indian Guru To The Beatles Retreats Into Silence, 
 Gives Up Control Of Meditation Movement
 
 THE HAGUE, Netherlands, Jan. 29, 2008
 
 [3 Photos]
 
 (AP) It was 1967 and the Indian meditation guru Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
 dressed in white with long flowing black hair and a gray beard, beamed
 as he stood surrounded by four smiling young Beatles at the peak of
 their popularity.
 
 George Harrison, clutching a sitar, John Lennon, Paul McCartney and
 Ringo Starr were on their way to a retreat in Wales led by the
 Maharishi, and the Hindu holy man was on his way to worldwide fame.
 
 It has been more than 50 years since the Maharishi began teaching a
 technique known as Transcendental Meditation. He is now believed to be
 91 and on Tuesday, a close adviser said he has retreated into near
 silence and turned over the day-to-day running of his global network
 to aides.
 
 He is not as young as he once was, adviser John Hagelin, an American
 physicist, said by telephone from the Dutch village of Vlodrop where
 the TM movement is now headquartered. I think he probably has a more
 limited reserve of physical energy to draw upon. He was working ... 20
 hours a day for years.
 
 Transcendental Meditation, or TM, is a 20-minute twice daily routine
 in which the meditator silently focuses on a sound, or mantra, to
 induce relaxation and dive into a state of pure consciousness.
 
 Most scientists agree TM can ease stress, high blood pressure, pain
 and insomnia. But some argue it is no more effective than many other
 mind-body relaxation techniques.
 
 Movie director David Lynch once extolled the virtues of TM in a speech.
 
 Anger, stress, tension, depression, sorrow, hate, fear -- these things
 start to retreat, said Lynch, a longtime practitioner. And for a
 filmmaker, having this negativity lift away is money in the bank. When
 you're suffering you can't create.
 
 The Maharishi's movement claims some 6 million people have become
 practitioners.
 
 But it was not until the Beatles visited his ashram in India in 1968
 that the guru became an icon of the counterculture movement. John,
 Paul, George and Ringo came for spiritual instruction as they
 struggled to come to terms with the death of their manager Brian Epstein.
 
 Other celebrities who followed the Maharishi's teachings included
 singer Donovan, actress Mia Farrow and the Beach Boys.
 
 The attention his famous followers focused on the Maharishi's movement
 turned it into a global phenomenon with outposts in some 130
 countries. For the last 17 years, he has run it from a former
 Franciscan monastery in a secluded forest near Vlodrop, an eastern
 Dutch village near the German border. He often spent hours on end
 speaking by video links to followers around the globe.
 
 The Maharishi told senior aides at a Jan. 8 meeting in the Netherlands
 of his plan to withdraw from administrative duties and spend his time
 absorbed in the ancient Indian texts that underpin his movement. The
 announcement caught many followers off guard.
 
 He had been involved very dynamically administratively in his
 worldwide movement for over 50 years, so it's quite a significant
 change to see him dive back purely into knowledge and let other people
 take care of the administration, Hagelin said.
 
 There is no one designated successor but many people have been trained
 for years to carry on the Maharishi's various tasks, Hagelin said.
 
 The Maharishi -- a Hindi-language title for Great Seer -- now spends his
 days in silence contemplating and preparing a commentary on the Vedas,
 a vast Sanskrit canon compiled some 3,500 years ago, from which he
 evolves solutions for today's troubled world.
 
 I think everybody's quietly feeling some sense of celebration that
 he's finally going to complete his commentary on the Vedas, which
 probably will have a longer-term impact, Hagelin said. It's a
 vitally important body of literature.
 
 The Maharishi is believed to have been born Jan. 12, 1917, in central
 India. He earned a physics degree from Allahabad University, was the
 longtime secretary to a leading Hindu sage, then wen into silent
 retreat for two years in the northern Indian hills.
 
 In 1955, he began teaching Transcendental Meditation and took his
 technique to the United States in 1959.
 
 Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.






[FairfieldLife] Re: From a friend on Purusha in India

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
As you may have heard, this is all happening now because it seems
 Maharishi's health has taken a bad turn.  Maharishi seems to have 
been
 in the hospital for some days during silence.  People in Vlodrop got
 wind of it and even thought Maharishi had left the body.  When they
 heard on Jan 12th that Maharishi was back in Vlodrop and listening 
to
 the celebration, it was a very emotional time for everyone.  The Jan
 19th message that Maharishi was continuing in Silence was, I 
suppose,
 designed to reassure people in the field.   And Raja John's latest
 message that Maharishi is retiring out of necessity was very 
telling.

Hospital?  Yes, word around here was that Maharishi was taken to 
hospital and spent some time in an oxygen tent during the first half 
of January while he was in silence.  

Om, it goes to show only, you know, those oxygen levels they do 
decrease to a point twice as deep as in deepest sleep during 
meditation, according to some research.  He is back retired working 
in his home and everything is fine, according to some.

Much needed fundraising for the TMmovement world peace projects 
continues everywhere on behalf of Maharishi.  Business is as usual  
mind your own business.  Meditate faithfully and dive into activity.

Jai Guru Dev, 

-Doug in FF




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear +++
 
   Thanks for forwarding the message from Bevan.  If you have been
 following the events around Jan 12th, you'll know a lot of changes 
are
 taking place now.
 
   We finally got our new satellite dish up to watch the Jan. 12th
 broadcasts.
 Everyone listened very intently as Maharishi announced that he is
 retiring, and seemingly has put everything in place for Maha Raja 
Nader
 Ram, his Rajas, and the 12 Ministers to take over all aspects of the
 Movement's guidance and administration.  Maharishi has hinted at 
this
 several times of over the past years, but there was a real sense of
 finality about it this time.  The underlying point of it all is 
that he
 has been telling us all to be Self-Sufficient and not rely on him so
 much anymore.  We have the knowledge, we know what to do, and we 
have
 our programme.  So now only we have to hold fast to it.
 
As you may have heard, this is all happening now because it seems
 Maharishi's health has taken a bad turn.  Maharishi seems to have 
been
 in the hospital for some days during silence.  People in Vlodrop got
 wind of it and even thought Maharishi had left the body.  When they
 heard on Jan 12th that Maharishi was back in Vlodrop and listening 
to
 the celebration, it was a very emotional time for everyone.  The Jan
 19th message that Maharishi was continuing in Silence was, I 
suppose,
 designed to reassure people in the field.   And Raja John's latest
 message that Maharishi is retiring out of necessity was very 
telling.
 
So we shall see what the year ahead brings us. It seems like 
much of
 the day to day running of the Movement will be done by others now.
 Maharishi just said a few days ago that he would withdraw into 
silence
 to work on final commentaries of the Vedas.
 
  It will probably be a very significant year for the TM Movement 
and all
 of us.
 
 Jai Guru Dev
  
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] ATT plans to filter the Internet - [video included]

2008-01-29 Thread Bhairitu
This would really mess them up. :)

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do.rflex wrote:
 ATT is planning to open all packets on the Internet, and examine
 them for intellectual property violations. Email, IM, everything. So,
 when Boing-Boing writer Joel Johnson was invited onto ATT's Hugh
 Johnson Show to talk about gadgets, he decided to talk about that instead.

 Naturally, the show's crew calls a halt to the show almost as soon as
 Joel lets the cat out of the bag, but not before the audience has
 called out No! to Joel's question: Do you want ATT reading your mail?


 VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY6cCGENlj8


 Here's what happened afterwards:


 As you can see from the video, the crew ended up scrubbing the
 interview about half-way through. Figuring that might happen, I asked
 my steely-nerved friend Richard Blakeley to tape the first take. I
 wanted to make sure that we had a record of the event, primarily to
 ensure that ATT would have no reason to try to bury the interview
 entirely—the same reason I am running this clip now, while discussion
 about what to do with my segment in post-production is surely underway.

 After the crew got their wits about them—they were not very happy
 with me, understandably—we went on to shoot a second take, which to
 Hugh's credit also included not only talk of gadgets, but of network
 neutrality and ATT's collusion with the NSA. I look forward to seeing
 that segment air on the The Hugh Thompson Show.

 The crew was upset with me not only because I was making their job
 more difficult, but because they feared that my stunt would cost them
 their jobs. Everyone looked at the staff member who booked me on the
 show with sad eyes, assuring me that he would certainly be fired.
 After their initial panic at an interview gone off the rails the crew
 acted professionally and efficiently to continue shooting the show. If
 ATT ends up letting a single person go from that crew, shame on them.
 What I chose to do has nothing to do with the crew or Mr. Thompson
 himself, who despite being visibly perturbed handled the whole mess
 like troupers.  =


 There's some discussion over at 'Slate' about whether it's even
 technically possible for ATT to do this. Wouldn't it be interesting
 if ATT was simply leveraging and privatizing technology it had
 already been paid to develop under Bush's warrantless surveillance
 program?

 Why does ATT want to know what you're downloading?
 SEE Slate article: http://www.slate.com/id/2182152/fr/rss/


 Via: http://www.correntewire.com/at_ts_plans_to_filter_the_internet




   



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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Other Kennedys for Clinton

2008-01-29 Thread Duveyoung
That's a surprise -- I wudda thunk diff.

Maybe the Kennedys are just priming us all for the next presidential
race when Patrick or some other Kennedy runs for the office.  And so
they've decided to come out BIG and re-enliven the aura of Camelot --
then cash in on the renewal of the Kennedy mystic eight years from now.  

I'm just sayin!  

I mean, if YOU had a billion dollars and how much it grew or shrank
depended on having a lacky in office, what do you think it would be
worth to insure YOUR MONEY?maybe a show of family umbrella-ness
-- demonstrating who the core Democrat producing family is, and stay
tuned for our next better-than-any-other candidate but meanwhile we
suggest this babe and dude.

I cried at Ted's speech, but it wasn't at all about the loss that
the assassinations cost America. It was this dream we all had that we
hoped the Kennedys would fulfill.  Obama is right smack up there in
the inspirational department -- Bobby would love his energy and
intent.  'Course, Bobby and Jack were doodling a drugged Marilyn and
sending Cubans to certain defeat and largely being not merely
camelotish but also cameloutish, and, hey, gotta say it, starting the
Viet Nam war too.

If Obama gets the nom, man is the exudation going to hit the twirly
thingie.  It won't be your father's swift-boating, it's going to be
out right ugly bone deep racism.  I got my first piece of junk mail
just today saying Obama is a Muslim and that only Christians are true
Americans.  PUKE!

Edg 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-
 kennedy29jan29,0,1618955.story
 
 From the Los Angeles Times
 
 Kennedys for Clinton
 
 She stands for Democrats and for the nation, these family members say.
 
 By Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Kerry Kennedy
 
 January 29, 2008
 
 This is a wonderful year for Democrats. Our party is blessed with the 
 most impressive array of primary candidates in modern history. All 
 would make superb presidents.
 
 By now you may have read or heard that our cousin, Caroline Kennedy, 
 and our uncle, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, have come out in favor of Sen. 
 Barack Obama. We, however, are supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton 
 because we believe that she is the strongest candidate for our party 
 and our country.
 
 While talk of unity and compromise are inspiring to a nation wary of 
 divisiveness, America stands at a historic crossroads where real 
 issues divide our political landscapes. Democrats believe that 
 America should not be torturing people, eavesdropping on our citizens 
 or imprisoning them without habeas corpus or other constitutional 
 rights. We should not be an imperial power. We need healthcare for 
 all and a clean, safe environment.
 
 The loftiest poetry will not solve these issues. We need a president 
 willing to engage in a fistfight to safeguard and restore our 
 national virtues.
 
 We have worked with Hillary Clinton for 15 years (and in Kathleen's 
 case, 25 years) and witnessed the power and depth of her convictions 
 firsthand. We've seen her formidable work ethic, courage in the face 
 of adversity and her dignity and clear head in crisis. We've also 
 seen her two-fisted willingness to enter the brawl when America's 
 principles are challenged. Her measured rhetoric, political savvy and 
 pragmatism shield the heart of our nation's most determined and most 
 democratic warrior.
 
 She has been an uncompromising and loyal ally for each of us in our 
 battles to protect the environment and to promote human rights around 
 the world and juvenile justice in America. Hillary is a problem-
 solver, listening to people and then achieving solutions by changing 
 attitudes.
 
 Her transformational leadership was on display when she ran for the 
 Senate seat in New York that had been held by our father, Sen. Robert 
 F. Kennedy. She faced rabid, heavily funded attacks from the far 
 right and the challenge of prevailing in traditionally Republican 
 upstate New York. Traveling with her, we watched admiringly as she 
 persuasively articulated an inspiring and unifying vision rooted in 
 American values and history. Then, through patience, hard work, 
 leadership and political acumen, she transformed many of those rock-
 solid conservative counties into solid Democratic strongholds.
 
 We look forward to working beside her in the general election as she 
 uses those same talents to change once rigid opinions and political 
 affiliations across the nation.
 
 Like our father, Hillary has devoted her life to embracing and 
 including those on the bottom rung of society's ladder -- giving 
 voice to the alienated and disenfranchised and working to alleviate 
 poverty and injustice, while urging that we cannot advance ourselves 
 as a nation by leaving our poorer brothers and sisters behind.
 
 She's been an equally effective champion for human rights and for 
 women's rights, a 

[FairfieldLife] The Other Kennedys for Clinton

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-
kennedy29jan29,0,1618955.story

From the Los Angeles Times

Kennedys for Clinton

She stands for Democrats and for the nation, these family members say.

By Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Kerry Kennedy

January 29, 2008

This is a wonderful year for Democrats. Our party is blessed with the 
most impressive array of primary candidates in modern history. All 
would make superb presidents.

By now you may have read or heard that our cousin, Caroline Kennedy, 
and our uncle, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, have come out in favor of Sen. 
Barack Obama. We, however, are supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton 
because we believe that she is the strongest candidate for our party 
and our country.

While talk of unity and compromise are inspiring to a nation wary of 
divisiveness, America stands at a historic crossroads where real 
issues divide our political landscapes. Democrats believe that 
America should not be torturing people, eavesdropping on our citizens 
or imprisoning them without habeas corpus or other constitutional 
rights. We should not be an imperial power. We need healthcare for 
all and a clean, safe environment.

The loftiest poetry will not solve these issues. We need a president 
willing to engage in a fistfight to safeguard and restore our 
national virtues.

We have worked with Hillary Clinton for 15 years (and in Kathleen's 
case, 25 years) and witnessed the power and depth of her convictions 
firsthand. We've seen her formidable work ethic, courage in the face 
of adversity and her dignity and clear head in crisis. We've also 
seen her two-fisted willingness to enter the brawl when America's 
principles are challenged. Her measured rhetoric, political savvy and 
pragmatism shield the heart of our nation's most determined and most 
democratic warrior.

She has been an uncompromising and loyal ally for each of us in our 
battles to protect the environment and to promote human rights around 
the world and juvenile justice in America. Hillary is a problem-
solver, listening to people and then achieving solutions by changing 
attitudes.

Her transformational leadership was on display when she ran for the 
Senate seat in New York that had been held by our father, Sen. Robert 
F. Kennedy. She faced rabid, heavily funded attacks from the far 
right and the challenge of prevailing in traditionally Republican 
upstate New York. Traveling with her, we watched admiringly as she 
persuasively articulated an inspiring and unifying vision rooted in 
American values and history. Then, through patience, hard work, 
leadership and political acumen, she transformed many of those rock-
solid conservative counties into solid Democratic strongholds.

We look forward to working beside her in the general election as she 
uses those same talents to change once rigid opinions and political 
affiliations across the nation.

Like our father, Hillary has devoted her life to embracing and 
including those on the bottom rung of society's ladder -- giving 
voice to the alienated and disenfranchised and working to alleviate 
poverty and injustice, while urging that we cannot advance ourselves 
as a nation by leaving our poorer brothers and sisters behind.

She's been an equally effective champion for human rights and for 
women's rights, a worldwide cause that will profit enormously by her 
elevation to the presidency. She has worked for peace in Northern 
Ireland and fought to bridge religious, racial and ethnic divides 
from Bosnia to the Middle East to South Africa. She has shown a rare 
understanding that American values can only be exported by moral 
leadership, by a strong home economy and by a detailed understanding 
of the history and cultural backdrops of the nations we engage.

She understands, as our current administration does not, the uses of 
power. The world, she says, is hungry for U.S. leadership but will 
not accept our bullying. She knows the difference and will 
reestablish America's lost prestige and moral authority.

Hillary Clinton's political career has been centered in comforting 
the afflicted, afflicting the comfortable and reminding Americans 
what it means to be American. As a young lawyer, she focused on 
children's issues and legal aid. As first lady of Arkansas, she 
brought healthcare to rural areas and helped reform the state's 
lagging education system.

As first lady, she courageously took on healthcare reform. When a 
massive propaganda campaign by Big Pharma and the radical right 
derailed her efforts, she didn't give up. She helped create the 
nationally acclaimed Children's Health Insurance Program. That kind 
of persistence in pursuit of our highest ideals is the brand of 
leadership America now requires. Inspirational leadership comes in 
many forms.

Seldom has history confronted America with such daunting challenges: 
a catastrophic foreign policy that has cost us our international 
leadership and aggravated the threat of 

[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Thanks, Vaj, but we're all just members of the lucky sperm  egg club, 
born more or less into affluence and engendered with the desire, for 
some reason or another, to explore consciousness.  

My parents' history was so unique (and improbable) that for years I 
never shared it because I wanted to 'write' a story for myself that, at 
the very least, didn't diminish their own by association.  

Within a week after that taping (February '07) my mother fell and broke 
her hip while out walking her two greyhounds.  By April she was back 
out, on a cane, and by June was out walking them again everyday for a 
couple of miles.  My father does about a half-an-hour every other day 
on the stationary bike in the basement.  I can't say the alcohol 
helped, but it certainly doesn't seem to have hurt them too much.  

For me, alcohol has never been a draw, though I can appreciate a good  
wine or beer in the proper context.


Marek

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Marek Reavis wrote:
 
  here's another story I think you might enjoy told last year
  to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied with
  some inexpensive red wine.
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU
 
 
 I always knew there was something special about you! What a 
wonderful  
 story and historythanks so much for sharing this with all of us!





[FairfieldLife] Dzogchen primer.

2008-01-29 Thread quantum packet


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[FairfieldLife] New MUM Student Union , opens Feb 1

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Maharishi University of Management executives and trustees expect the 
new Argiro Student Center to quickly become the physical and 
emotional center of campus after its Feb. 1 grand opening.


The 50,000-square-foot, three-level building includes a student 
lounge and cafe, bookstore, conference room, kitchen, dance floor, 
mailroom and 300-seat auditorium, as well as dining halls, classroom 
space, exercise space and student government offices.



The idea for the new student center evolved out of the need to build 
a new kitchen.  The idea developed into a $7.5 million grand building 
to accommodate a range of students' needs. About half the cost of the 
center has been covered by donations and pledges, and fund-raising 
efforts to cover the rest are ongoing.

-From page of Fairfield Ledger

http://tinyurl.com/3xzvbc
1.28.2008





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Other Kennedys for Clinton

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
I hear Rosemary Kennedy is supporting Dennis Kucinich.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-
 kennedy29jan29,0,1618955.story
 
 From the Los Angeles Times
 
 Kennedys for Clinton
 
 She stands for Democrats and for the nation, these family members 
say.
 
 By Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Kerry 
Kennedy
 
 January 29, 2008
 
 This is a wonderful year for Democrats. Our party is blessed with 
the 
 most impressive array of primary candidates in modern history. All 
 would make superb presidents.
 
 By now you may have read or heard that our cousin, Caroline 
Kennedy, 
 and our uncle, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, have come out in favor of 
Sen. 
 Barack Obama. We, however, are supporting Sen. Hillary Rodham 
Clinton 
 because we believe that she is the strongest candidate for our 
party 
 and our country.
 
 While talk of unity and compromise are inspiring to a nation wary 
of 
 divisiveness, America stands at a historic crossroads where real 
 issues divide our political landscapes. Democrats believe that 
 America should not be torturing people, eavesdropping on our 
citizens 
 or imprisoning them without habeas corpus or other constitutional 
 rights. We should not be an imperial power. We need healthcare for 
 all and a clean, safe environment.
 
 The loftiest poetry will not solve these issues. We need a 
president 
 willing to engage in a fistfight to safeguard and restore our 
 national virtues.
 
 We have worked with Hillary Clinton for 15 years (and in Kathleen's 
 case, 25 years) and witnessed the power and depth of her 
convictions 
 firsthand. We've seen her formidable work ethic, courage in the 
face 
 of adversity and her dignity and clear head in crisis. We've also 
 seen her two-fisted willingness to enter the brawl when America's 
 principles are challenged. Her measured rhetoric, political savvy 
and 
 pragmatism shield the heart of our nation's most determined and 
most 
 democratic warrior.
 
 She has been an uncompromising and loyal ally for each of us in our 
 battles to protect the environment and to promote human rights 
around 
 the world and juvenile justice in America. Hillary is a problem-
 solver, listening to people and then achieving solutions by 
changing 
 attitudes.
 
 Her transformational leadership was on display when she ran for the 
 Senate seat in New York that had been held by our father, Sen. 
Robert 
 F. Kennedy. She faced rabid, heavily funded attacks from the far 
 right and the challenge of prevailing in traditionally Republican 
 upstate New York. Traveling with her, we watched admiringly as she 
 persuasively articulated an inspiring and unifying vision rooted in 
 American values and history. Then, through patience, hard work, 
 leadership and political acumen, she transformed many of those rock-
 solid conservative counties into solid Democratic strongholds.
 
 We look forward to working beside her in the general election as 
she 
 uses those same talents to change once rigid opinions and political 
 affiliations across the nation.
 
 Like our father, Hillary has devoted her life to embracing and 
 including those on the bottom rung of society's ladder -- giving 
 voice to the alienated and disenfranchised and working to alleviate 
 poverty and injustice, while urging that we cannot advance 
ourselves 
 as a nation by leaving our poorer brothers and sisters behind.
 
 She's been an equally effective champion for human rights and for 
 women's rights, a worldwide cause that will profit enormously by 
her 
 elevation to the presidency. She has worked for peace in Northern 
 Ireland and fought to bridge religious, racial and ethnic divides 
 from Bosnia to the Middle East to South Africa. She has shown a 
rare 
 understanding that American values can only be exported by moral 
 leadership, by a strong home economy and by a detailed 
understanding 
 of the history and cultural backdrops of the nations we engage.
 
 She understands, as our current administration does not, the uses 
of 
 power. The world, she says, is hungry for U.S. leadership but will 
 not accept our bullying. She knows the difference and will 
 reestablish America's lost prestige and moral authority.
 
 Hillary Clinton's political career has been centered in comforting 
 the afflicted, afflicting the comfortable and reminding Americans 
 what it means to be American. As a young lawyer, she focused on 
 children's issues and legal aid. As first lady of Arkansas, she 
 brought healthcare to rural areas and helped reform the state's 
 lagging education system.
 
 As first lady, she courageously took on healthcare reform. When a 
 massive propaganda campaign by Big Pharma and the radical right 
 derailed her efforts, she didn't give up. She helped create the 
 nationally acclaimed Children's Health Insurance Program. That kind 
 of persistence in pursuit of our highest ideals is the brand of 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Let the fun Begin!

2008-01-29 Thread MDixon6569
 
In a message dated 1/29/08 6:29:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

John Hagelin There is no one successor for the Maharishi,  but many people 
have trained to carry on his various tasks, Hagelin  said.





OFF WITH HIS HEAD!



**Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in shape. 
http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489


[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   
Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
   conservative 
records:

The first from the left-wing New Yorker:


 http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza

The second from a right-winger:


   
  
 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
for_hillary

The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or 
 Robert 
   the 
Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:

http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml

But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue on 
  with 
the illusion that the Clintons are centrist Democrats.  
Why, 
 to 
take an alternative position would mean that you would 
actually 
have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!
   
   Funny, because triangulating from these three
   pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
   is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.
  
  Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the fastest
  known rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the
  time you posted.
 
 Don't be silly. I read fast, and they aren't *that*
 long. Took me about a half an hour. I did just skim
 the last half of the third one, though.
 
  Nice try.
  
  Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the
  articles show anything but what I suggested.
 
 Read them again, Shemp. They don't say what you wish
 they said.


Well, then, since they don't say what I claim they say and, 
apparently, they say what YOU claim, it shouldn't be too difficult 
for you to list the reasons why the Clintons are centrist Democrats.

I've listed my evidence.  Now see if you can put all that 
triangulating to good use and list your evidence, too.

Put up or shut up.




[FairfieldLife] FIRST VEDIC-GREEN STUDENT CENTER TO OPEN

2008-01-29 Thread Rick Archer
MAHARISHI UNIVERSITY OF MANAGEMENT Fairfield, Iowa 52556 • 641-472-7000 
 Media Advisory Contact: Ken Chawkin
641-470-1314
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

America’s First “Vedic-Green” Student Center to Open
at Maharishi University of Management on Feb. 1 

$7.5 Million, 50,000 Sq. Ft. Building Incorporates
Ancient Design Principles with Modern Sustainable  Technologies 

Inaugural Ceremony • 12:30 PM • Press Invited
Argiro Student Center • MUM • Fairfield, Iowa 

AmericaÂ’s first university student center built according to the ancient
design principles of Maharishi Vedic Architecture along with the most
advanced green technologies will officially open its doors during grand
inaugural ceremonies at Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield,
Iowa, on Friday, February 1, at 12:30 p.m.

The Argiro Student Center, a spacious, light-filled $7.5 million,
50,000-square-foot building, which faces east to “capture the nourishing
rays of the rising sun for greatest benefit to the occupants,” features two
dining halls, a banquet room, café, lounge, 300-seat auditorium, bookstore,
mailroom, and offices for student-related activities. The building also
includes a chandeliered entry lobby with vaulted ceilings almost three
stories high, as well as a large, stained glass window.

In addition to being constructed according to principles of Maharishi Vedic
Architecture—architecture in harmony with Natural Law—the Argiro Student
Center also incorporates a range of environmentally friendly features that
will qualify it for LEED certification.

“This building is an important part of the University’s commitment to be
more environmentally friendly, and to bring our buildings in accord with
Natural Law on all levels,” said Dr. Streid, the University’s Chief
Administrative Officer.

The Student Center is named for Dr. Vincent and Dr. Maggie Argiro,
University trustees and principal donors to the building. “We are delighted
to contribute to this great accomplishment of the University community,” Dr.
Maggie Argiro said. “The building is the stuff of dreams—dreams fulfilled,
dreams in progress, dreams yet to be born within its life-giving walls.”

Featured speakers at the inauguration include Dr. Bevan Morris, President of
Maharishi University of Management (videoconference); Dr. John Hagelin, Raja
of Invincible America and Director of the MUM Institute of Science,
Technology and Public Policy (videoconference); the Hon. Ed Malloy, Mayor of
Fairfield; Dr. Vincent and Dr. Maggie Argiro; Dr. Craig Pearson, University
Vice President; and Mariam Doudi, President of Global Student Council.

ARGIRO STUDENT CENTER 

Unique Vedic Architectural Design Elements
to Promote Life in Harmony with Natural Law 


Right Orientation: According to Maharishi Vedic Architecture, orientation of
a building has a dramatic and easily measured impact upon the quality of
life of its occupants. The sunÂ’s energy is most nourishing when it is
rising. The Argiro Student Center is oriented to the east to bring the
greatest benefits to the health and the vitality of its occupants.

Right Placement of Rooms: Because the sun has different qualities of energy
as it moves across the sky, the Argiro Student Center is designed so that
these energies correspond to the specific activities performed within the
different rooms of the building, e.g., dining, studying, socializing etc. 

Right Proportion: Proportion is a key to successful design in nature. Right
proportion in the Argiro Student Center connects the individual intelligence
of the occupants to cosmic intelligence.

Natural, Non-Toxic Materials and Solar Energy: Vedic architecture promotes
natural and non-toxic construction materials. It also emphasizes filling
rooms with sunlight and fresh air.

Green Design Elements to Qualify for LEED Certification 

*   Energy Efficiency: Energy savings in the Argiro Student Center come
from heat exchangers, which capture 80% of the heat from the air that is
being exhausted from the building and use it to help heat the incoming fresh
air. 
*   Daylighting: Large, triangular windows cast light deep into the
Argiro Student Center on the two upper floors. Daylighting sensors
automatically turn off the lights when enough daylight is present. The
buildingÂ’s cupola also helps reflect light into the atrium area. 
*   Insulation: The Argiro Student Center is insulated 50% better than
average. The heating and cooling systems also have a higher-than-normal
efficiency. 
*   Nontoxic Materials: The Argiro Student Center is constructed with
nontoxic materials, including over 13, 000 square feet of bamboo flooring.
Carpeting is green certified, and the flooring in the serving areas is
Marmoleum, which is a natural linoleum made with 100% natural ingredients:
linseed oil, cork, limestone, tree rosin, and natural minerals. 

ABOUT THE ARGIROS 

Dr. Vincent Argiro received his B.A. at Yale and his Ph.D. in neural
sciences from Washington University. He joined Maharishi University of

[FairfieldLife] Let the fun Begin!

2008-01-29 Thread eghads
 http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/entertainmentid=5921221

 John Hagelin There is no one successor for the Maharishi, but many
people have trained to carry on his various tasks, Hagelin said.


   he, he, he , he, he! ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha - E  [:))]  [:O]  [;)]



[FairfieldLife] Re: New MUM Student Union , opens Feb 1

2008-01-29 Thread feste37
It looks like a wonderful building. A good answer to those who think
the movement/University is dying. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maharishi University of Management executives and trustees expect the 
 new Argiro Student Center to quickly become the physical and 
 emotional center of campus after its Feb. 1 grand opening.
 
 
 The 50,000-square-foot, three-level building includes a student 
 lounge and cafe, bookstore, conference room, kitchen, dance floor, 
 mailroom and 300-seat auditorium, as well as dining halls, classroom 
 space, exercise space and student government offices.
 
 
 
 The idea for the new student center evolved out of the need to build 
 a new kitchen.  The idea developed into a $7.5 million grand building 
 to accommodate a range of students' needs. About half the cost of the 
 center has been covered by donations and pledges, and fund-raising 
 efforts to cover the rest are ongoing.
 
 -From page of Fairfield Ledger
 
 http://tinyurl.com/3xzvbc
 1.28.2008





[FairfieldLife] Veterans of Life

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Yes, that's told very special.  Thanks, is a great story.  I showed 
it around my household and everyone was blown away in turn.

What life does bring.  What a great story of courage. That was only 
60 years ago all that happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU



I remember an obituary last year published in the FF Ledger for 
Harriet Berman's mother here.
It was written in a common way, that she was fun and a great game 
player and active in her later life and such.  The un-expanded part 
of the obituary was that she grew up Jewish, in 1930's occupied 
Poland.  I wondered then if the family had her story as she saw it.  
Her MSAE grandson from FF then has now become a professional 
journalist elsewhere, I wondered then if he had collected it or if it 
had come to be too late.  There seemed to be an untold character 
story in the obituary.  Certainly some veterans of those times only 
wish to go on in life putting it behind them in their privacy.  

That generation is passing fast now.
My wife's dad was with the first army medical unit to arrive at 
Dachau as US troops arrived and found it.  He has a scrap book with 
photos and articles about it from then.  But now his own memory is 
rickety and about all gone.

At Revelations used bookstore here a while back I bought a used book 
about all the concentration and work camps of Nazi Germany, in real 
nice shape that had clippings from the war carefully folded in to the 
book.  Evidently from someone's (from around here?) estate or 
collection who seems to have been there.

In town here we have a kind old guy who as a skilled handy-man takes 
care of appliances.  As a boy he was displaced with his mother and 
brother from East Prussian farming districts that were emptied of all 
civilians as the Russian army came in that way against the Germans 
during the war.  They traveled about as displaced civilians trying to 
connect with their family's father who had been conscripted in to the 
German army and sent down to Austria.  As the war narrowed down, like 
with this other story they were separated by the lines of occupation 
and it was quick heads-up thinking in hand-changing destinations on 
travel documents that got them from the Russian occupied side over to 
the American occupied side where the dad was later in the war.
I am telling his story to you in writing this but even in doing that 
I have left out a lot of viseral texture to the way he told it to me 
directly.

My dad had his stories from then too.  He is gone now and the 
liveliness of those stories with him.  I remember some of them but 
not the way he told them.

-Doug in FF  





 Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, Curtis, my folks; the back stories are equally interesting.  
 And as you can see, the red wine (and the vodka) apparently haven't 
 diminished their capacities too much.  It's just a life and every 
 life is a story that each one of us has the opportunity to enrich 
 every day.  I always appreciate the stories shared on this forum 
with 
 a community I feel so lucky to be a member of.
 
 Marek
 
 **
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis 
reavismarek@
  wrote:
  
   Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told last 
 year 
   to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied 
 with 
   some inexpensive red wine.
  
  Totally blown away!  Thanks for sending this Marek.  Your folks?  
 What
  a fascinating couple.  What a life!  I live for stories like this!
  
  
  
  
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU
   
   **




[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 This is just too good Curtis.  This piece needs wider distribution.   It
 is along the lines of that great commericial,  Beef, It's Whats For
 Dinner,  with the Irving Berlin musical accompaniment

Yeah, you busted me trying to suck up to booze companies to sponsor my
show!  I'm working on a piece about how good it is for children next.
(hint, it makes them less hyper, like when they pass out)



 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
 
   
   Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an anesthetic
   it creates dullness.
 
  I understand the alcohol bad position and lived it for years. If
  that is how you enjoy to live, good for you. Dullness is the last
  attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
  and drink with the right people. Removing the drink from the set and
  setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO. It can be a part
  of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
 
  A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
  background.
 
  Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
  last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
  many questions about what blues artists they should download.
 
  A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
  came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
 
  A chilled Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
  Chesapeake Bay crabs.
 
  Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
  survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
  feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
  harvest.
 
  Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your Vietnamese
  friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
 
  A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
 
  Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
  style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
 
  Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
  traditional meal she cooked for you.
 
  Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
  and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
  Cup soccer.
 
  A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
  experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation of
  Japan.
 
  Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with a
  glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
 
  A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
  while the snow falls outside.
 
  Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
  beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
  connects people. Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude.
  It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version. You
  may associate it with dullness if you prefer. I prefer to associate
  it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during
 conversation.
 
 
 
  
   Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active
 brain-
   drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol abuse
   distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social
   drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction caused
   by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. Even
   low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult for
   the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, ethanol
   acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much in
   the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
   {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003}
  
   http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This thread started with an article that a few glasses of wine each 
day with regular exercise is good for your heart. Unfortunately, it 
became an argument over who is better, drinkers or none drinkers, 
those who can enjoy life or don't enjoy life, if alcohol has a role 
in the 'glamour' of living or is alcohol a poison that dulls the 
mind. I guess my point is, if someone chooses to meditate twice a day 
and has good experiences, is it possible and recommended for TMers 
according to the instruction, that it makes no difference to have two 
6oz. glasses of wine each day? Will they continue to have good 
experiences or not? Does the TMO not have any thing to say on this? 
For me personally, if I drank two 6oz. glasses of wine every day, my 
experience would be dramatically effected but that's me. I would be 
really curious to know how many people on this list drink two 6oz. 
glasses of wine each day and can claim that they feel no difference 
in the experience of deep meditation. I'm talking mainly about people 
who never drank for sometime and then began to drink later on.




[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000


This is just too good Curtis.  This piece needs wider distribution.   It
is along the lines of that great commericial,  Beef, It's Whats For
Dinner,  with the Irving Berlin musical accompaniment

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  
  Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an anesthetic
  it creates dullness.

 I understand the alcohol bad position and lived it for years. If
 that is how you enjoy to live, good for you. Dullness is the last
 attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too much,
 and drink with the right people. Removing the drink from the set and
 setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO. It can be a part
 of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.

 A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
 background.

 Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
 last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and have
 many questions about what blues artists they should download.

 A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
 came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.

 A chilled Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while eating
 Chesapeake Bay crabs.

 Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how they
 survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating sheep
 feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's olive
 harvest.

 Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your Vietnamese
 friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.

 A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.

 Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating home
 style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.

 Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
 traditional meal she cooked for you.

 Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. (limes,sugar
 and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching World
 Cup soccer.

 A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
 experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the occupation of
 Japan.

 Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, with a
 glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.

 A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
 while the snow falls outside.

 Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
 beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
 connects people. Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude.
 It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version. You
 may associate it with dullness if you prefer. I prefer to associate
 it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during
conversation.



 
  Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active
brain-
  drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol abuse
  distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social
  drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction caused
  by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages. Even
  low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult for
  the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, ethanol
  acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much in
  the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
  {nutramed.com, Apr. 2003}
 
  http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Veterans of Life

2008-01-29 Thread Angela Mailander
Here's a Buchenwald story for you.  When the Allies liberated Buchenwald, it 
became part of the Russian gulag, and the Russian occupation army filled it 
back up with prisoners under pretty much the same horrible conditions that had 
tortured and killed so many Jews there.  But this time the prisoners were not 
Jews, they were Germans, and my aunt Maria did time there for nine years.  

The name, Buchenwald means beech forest, and it had indeed been a beech 
forest once upon a time when the great 19th century German poet, Goethe, liked 
to take walks there.  The forest is mostly gone now, but one centuries-old 
beech tree had survived, standing in the middle of the courtyard at Buchenwald 
the prison, and it had a plaque with one of Goethe's most famous poems engraved 
on it:
 
Wanderer's Nachtlied

Ueber allen Gipfeln 
Ist Ruh,
In allen Wipfeln
Spuerest du
Kaum einen Hauch;
Die Voegelein schweigen im Walde.
Warte nur! Balde
Ruhest du auch.

The Wanderer's Night Song

Above all mountain tops
is peace,
In all the tree tops
you feel
hardly a breath;
birds are silent in their nests,
But wait!  Soon
you, too, shall rest. 

My aunt told me that this tree and its poem were of immeasurable comfort to her 
and to the other prisoners at Buchenwald, but when the prison guards learned of 
this, they cut it down.


 
- Original Message 
From: dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:34:52 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Veterans of Life

Yes, that's told very special. Thanks, is a great story. I showed 
it around my household and everyone was blown away in turn.

What life does bring. What a great story of courage. That was only 
60 years ago all that happened.

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=w0HVg1kCpxU

I remember an obituary last year published in the FF Ledger for 
Harriet Berman's mother here.
It was written in a common way, that she was fun and a great game 
player and active in her later life and such. The un-expanded part 
of the obituary was that she grew up Jewish, in 1930's occupied 
Poland. I wondered then if the family had her story as she saw it. 
Her MSAE grandson from FF then has now become a professional 
journalist elsewhere, I wondered then if he had collected it or if it 
had come to be too late. There seemed to be an untold character 
story in the obituary. Certainly some veterans of those times only 
wish to go on in life putting it behind them in their privacy. 

That generation is passing fast now.
My wife's dad was with the first army medical unit to arrive at 
Dachau as US troops arrived and found it. He has a scrap book with 
photos and articles about it from then. But now his own memory is 
rickety and about all gone.

At Revelations used bookstore here a while back I bought a used book 
about all the concentration and work camps of Nazi Germany, in real 
nice shape that had clippings from the war carefully folded in to the 
book. Evidently from someone's (from around here?) estate or 
collection who seems to have been there.

In town here we have a kind old guy who as a skilled handy-man takes 
care of appliances. As a boy he was displaced with his mother and 
brother from East Prussian farming districts that were emptied of all 
civilians as the Russian army came in that way against the Germans 
during the war. They traveled about as displaced civilians trying to 
connect with their family's father who had been conscripted in to the 
German army and sent down to Austria. As the war narrowed down, like 
with this other story they were separated by the lines of occupation 
and it was quick heads-up thinking in hand-changing destinations on 
travel documents that got them from the Russian occupied side over to 
the American occupied side where the dad was later in the war.
I am telling his story to you in writing this but even in doing that 
I have left out a lot of viseral texture to the way he told it to me 
directly.

My dad had his stories from then too. He is gone now and the 
liveliness of those stories with him. I remember some of them but 
not the way he told them.

-Doug in FF 

 Marek Reavis reavismarek@ ... wrote:

 Yeah, Curtis, my folks; the back stories are equally interesting. 
 And as you can see, the red wine (and the vodka) apparently haven't 
 diminished their capacities too much. It's just a life and every 
 life is a story that each one of us has the opportunity to enrich 
 every day. I always appreciate the stories shared on this forum 
with 
 a community I feel so lucky to be a member of.
 
 Marek
 
 **
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Marek Reavis 
reavismarek@ 
  wrote:
  
   Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told last 
 year 
   to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, accompanied 
 with 
   some inexpensive red wine.
  
  Totally blown away! Thanks for sending this Marek. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  
  
  This is just too good Curtis.  This piece needs wider 
distribution.   It
  is along the lines of that great commericial,  Beef, It's Whats 
For
  Dinner,  with the Irving Berlin musical accompaniment
 
 Yeah, you busted me trying to suck up to booze companies to sponsor 
my
 show!  I'm working on a piece about how good it is for children 
next.
 (hint, it makes them less hyper, like when they pass out)



I went through a phase when I was about 7 years old when I wouldn't 
eat anything and my doctor told my mother to give me a shot of brandy 
(perhaps cut with something, I can't remember) about an hour before 
supper.

Well, I sat down for dinner at the alloted time and promptly fell 
asleep in the mashed potatoes.

If There will be blood reflects the times, the Daniel Day-Lewis 
character gives his son alcohol along with his goat's milk...





 
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  

Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an 
anesthetic
it creates dullness.
  
   I understand the alcohol bad position and lived it for years. 
If
   that is how you enjoy to live, good for you. Dullness is the 
last
   attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too 
much,
   and drink with the right people. Removing the drink from the 
set and
   setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO. It can be a 
part
   of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
  
   A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in 
the
   background.
  
   Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after 
your
   last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and 
have
   many questions about what blues artists they should download.
  
   A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who 
just
   came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
  
   A chilled Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while 
eating
   Chesapeake Bay crabs.
  
   Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how 
they
   survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating 
sheep
   feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's 
olive
   harvest.
  
   Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your 
Vietnamese
   friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
  
   A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their 
horses.
  
   Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating 
home
   style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
  
   Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over 
the
   traditional meal she cooked for you.
  
   Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya. 
(limes,sugar
   and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching 
World
   Cup soccer.
  
   A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
   experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the 
occupation of
   Japan.
  
   Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams, 
with a
   glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
  
   A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your 
girlfriend
   while the snow falls outside.
  
   Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the 
shared
   beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink 
that
   connects people. Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an 
attitude.
   It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special 
version. You
   may associate it with dullness if you prefer. I prefer to 
associate
   it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during
  conversation.
  
  
  
   
Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an 
active
  brain-
drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol 
abuse
distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the 
`social
drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction 
caused
by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic 
beverages. Even
low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it 
difficult for
the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug, 
ethanol
acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very 
much in
the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly 
toxic.
{nutramed.com, Apr. 2003}
   
http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Veterans of Life

2008-01-29 Thread feste37
The Goethe poem is a favorite of mine; Schubert set it to music and
made it even more moving.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's a Buchenwald story for you.  When the Allies liberated
Buchenwald, it became part of the Russian gulag, and the Russian
occupation army filled it back up with prisoners under pretty much the
same horrible conditions that had tortured and killed so many Jews
there.  But this time the prisoners were not Jews, they were Germans,
and my aunt Maria did time there for nine years.  
 
 The name, Buchenwald means beech forest, and it had indeed been
a beech forest once upon a time when the great 19th century German
poet, Goethe, liked to take walks there.  The forest is mostly gone
now, but one centuries-old beech tree had survived, standing in the
middle of the courtyard at Buchenwald the prison, and it had a plaque
with one of Goethe's most famous poems engraved on it:
  
 Wanderer's Nachtlied
 
 Ueber allen Gipfeln 
 Ist Ruh,
 In allen Wipfeln
 Spuerest du
 Kaum einen Hauch;
 Die Voegelein schweigen im Walde.
 Warte nur! Balde
 Ruhest du auch.
 
 The Wanderer's Night Song
 
 Above all mountain tops
 is peace,
 In all the tree tops
 you feel
 hardly a breath;
 birds are silent in their nests,
 But wait!  Soon
 you, too, shall rest. 
 
 My aunt told me that this tree and its poem were of immeasurable
comfort to her and to the other prisoners at Buchenwald, but when the
prison guards learned of this, they cut it down.
 
 
  
 - Original Message 
 From: dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:34:52 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Veterans of Life
 
 Yes, that's told very special. Thanks, is a great story. I showed 
 it around my household and everyone was blown away in turn.
 
 What life does bring. What a great story of courage. That was only 
 60 years ago all that happened.
 
 http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=w0HVg1kCpxU
 
 I remember an obituary last year published in the FF Ledger for 
 Harriet Berman's mother here.
 It was written in a common way, that she was fun and a great game 
 player and active in her later life and such. The un-expanded part 
 of the obituary was that she grew up Jewish, in 1930's occupied 
 Poland. I wondered then if the family had her story as she saw it. 
 Her MSAE grandson from FF then has now become a professional 
 journalist elsewhere, I wondered then if he had collected it or if it 
 had come to be too late. There seemed to be an untold character 
 story in the obituary. Certainly some veterans of those times only 
 wish to go on in life putting it behind them in their privacy. 
 
 That generation is passing fast now.
 My wife's dad was with the first army medical unit to arrive at 
 Dachau as US troops arrived and found it. He has a scrap book with 
 photos and articles about it from then. But now his own memory is 
 rickety and about all gone.
 
 At Revelations used bookstore here a while back I bought a used book 
 about all the concentration and work camps of Nazi Germany, in real 
 nice shape that had clippings from the war carefully folded in to the 
 book. Evidently from someone's (from around here?) estate or 
 collection who seems to have been there.
 
 In town here we have a kind old guy who as a skilled handy-man takes 
 care of appliances. As a boy he was displaced with his mother and 
 brother from East Prussian farming districts that were emptied of all 
 civilians as the Russian army came in that way against the Germans 
 during the war. They traveled about as displaced civilians trying to 
 connect with their family's father who had been conscripted in to the 
 German army and sent down to Austria. As the war narrowed down, like 
 with this other story they were separated by the lines of occupation 
 and it was quick heads-up thinking in hand-changing destinations on 
 travel documents that got them from the Russian occupied side over to 
 the American occupied side where the dad was later in the war.
 I am telling his story to you in writing this but even in doing that 
 I have left out a lot of viseral texture to the way he told it to me 
 directly.
 
 My dad had his stories from then too. He is gone now and the 
 liveliness of those stories with him. I remember some of them but 
 not the way he told them.
 
 -Doug in FF 
 
  Marek Reavis reavismarek@ ... wrote:
 
  Yeah, Curtis, my folks; the back stories are equally interesting. 
  And as you can see, the red wine (and the vodka) apparently haven't 
  diminished their capacities too much. It's just a life and every 
  life is a story that each one of us has the opportunity to enrich 
  every day. I always appreciate the stories shared on this forum 
 with 
  a community I feel so lucky to be a member of.
  
  Marek
  
  **
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Vaj


On Jan 29, 2008, at 9:28 PM, suziezuzie wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This thread started with an article that a few glasses of wine each
day with regular exercise is good for your heart. Unfortunately, it
became an argument over who is better, drinkers or none drinkers,
those who can enjoy life or don't enjoy life, if alcohol has a role
in the 'glamour' of living or is alcohol a poison that dulls the
mind. I guess my point is, if someone chooses to meditate twice a day
and has good experiences, is it possible and recommended for TMers
according to the instruction, that it makes no difference to have two
6oz. glasses of wine each day? Will they continue to have good
experiences or not? Does the TMO not have any thing to say on this?
For me personally, if I drank two 6oz. glasses of wine every day, my
experience would be dramatically effected but that's me. I would be
really curious to know how many people on this list drink two 6oz.
glasses of wine each day and can claim that they feel no difference
in the experience of deep meditation. I'm talking mainly about people
who never drank for sometime and then began to drink later on.



Author Ken Wilber claims to have been in continuous witnessing for  
years, but in one of his books (a spiritual diary of a years time) he  
claimed the witness was not experienced after drinking fair amounts of  
wine with his new girlfriend. On vacation--South Beach.


:-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread lurkernomore20002000

Could be the beef commerical, or maybe the VISA commerical.

One bottle very dry Virginia wine $14.00.  One bottle Czech Pilslner
$8.00.

Chatting with your old man about South Pacific Theatre--Priceless



  This is just too good Curtis. This piece needs wider distribution.
It
  is along the lines of that great commericial, Beef, It's Whats For
  Dinner, with the Irving Berlin musical accompaniment

 Yeah, you busted me trying to suck up to booze companies to sponsor my
 show! I'm working on a piece about how good it is for children next.
 (hint, it makes them less hyper, like when they pass out)



 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
  

Maybe the spounge analagy was misplaced, but acting as an
anesthetic
it creates dullness.
  
   I understand the alcohol bad position and lived it for years. If
   that is how you enjoy to live, good for you. Dullness is the last
   attribute I would give alcohol's effect if you don't drink too
much,
   and drink with the right people. Removing the drink from the set
and
   setting that it can enhance, misses the point IMO. It can be a
part
   of social customs and cuisines that I enjoy.
  
   A chilled martini at a jazz club with an acoustic jazz trio in the
   background.
  
   Some top shelf bourbon bought for you by a young couple after your
   last set, who had never listened to acoustic blues before, and
have
   many questions about what blues artists they should download.
  
   A bottle of local Virginia wine over dinner with a friend who just
   came back from visiting Africa and has many stories to share.
  
   A chilled Czech Pilsner Urquell beer at boating picnic while
eating
   Chesapeake Bay crabs.
  
   Greek brandy with your Greek friends as they tell you about how
they
   survived during WWII in Greece on an olive farm, while eating
sheep
   feta cheese and dipping crusty bread into oil from this year's
olive
   harvest.
  
   Toasts with Hennessey cognac with the bridal party at your
Vietnamese
   friend's wedding after all the other guests have left.
  
   A friend's homemade wine at their farm after riding their horses.
  
   Joining a Thai friend as he closes up his restaurant and eating
home
   style fiery hot Thai food with the staff with Thai Singha beer.
  
   Drinking chilled vodka shots with your Russian girlfriend over the
   traditional meal she cooked for you.
  
   Sharing the Brazilian national drink, the Chaiparinya.
(limes,sugar
   and Cachasa) with a raven haired Brazilian girl while watching
World
   Cup soccer.
  
   A smoky Lagavulin scotch with my father over stories of his
   experiences in the South Pacific theater of WWII and the
occupation of
   Japan.
  
   Making handmade pasta, covering them with fresh steamed clams,
with a
   glass of Sauvignon Blanc and your best friends.
  
   A glass of sweet port with a plate of Stilton with your girlfriend
   while the snow falls outside.
  
   Some of these experiences would be plenty cool without the shared
   beverage. But sometime it is the ritual of sharing the drink that
   connects people. Alcohol is just sugar molecules with an attitude.
   It is a type of food, and each culture has it's special version.
You
   may associate it with dullness if you prefer. I prefer to
associate
   it with the way peoples eyes crinkle up at the edges during
  conversation.
  
  
  
   
Ethanol is a two-carbon alcohol and can be considered an active
  brain-
drug and an all-purpose cellular toxin. Even moderate alcohol
abuse
distorts the personality, emotions, and intellect of the `social
drinker', which is a direct consequence of brain dysfunction
caused
by ethanol and other chemical pathogens in alcoholic beverages.
Even
low doses of alcohol interfere with memory and make it difficult
for
the hippocampus to process new information. As a brain drug,
ethanol
acts to depress the brain function from the top down, very much
in
the style of an anesthetic. Acetaldehyde is particularly toxic.
{nutramed.com, Apr. 2003}
   
http://www.jrussellshealth.org/alcbfm.html
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
  shempmcgurk@ 
wrote:

 Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
conservative 
 records:
 
 The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
 
 
  http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
 
 The second from a right-winger:
 
 

   
  
 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
 for_hillary
 
 The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu or 
  Robert 
the 
 Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing source:
 
 http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
 
 But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and continue 
on 
   with 
 the illusion that the Clintons are centrist Democrats.  
 Why, 
  to 
 take an alternative position would mean that you would 
 actually 
 have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!

Funny, because triangulating from these three
pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.
   
   Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the fastest
   known rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the
   time you posted.
  
  Don't be silly. I read fast, and they aren't *that*
  long. Took me about a half an hour. I did just skim
  the last half of the third one, though.
  
   Nice try.
   
   Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the
   articles show anything but what I suggested.
  
  Read them again, Shemp. They don't say what you wish
  they said.
 
 Well, then, since they don't say what I claim they say and, 
 apparently, they say what YOU claim, it shouldn't be too difficult 
 for you to list the reasons why the Clintons are centrist Democrats.
 
 I've listed my evidence.  Now see if you can put all that 
 triangulating to good use and list your evidence, too.

Jesus, Shemp. It's the *same evidence*. Any
recital of Clinton's policies is going to list
the same ones. What they add up to is *centrism*--
neither all conservative nor all liberal, but a
mixture, so they're in the, you know, center.

Nobody's saying he didn't take some relatively
conservative positions, but he also took some
relatively liberal positions.

Have you never heard of the DLC?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

Notice who was the first chair of the DLC.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Melbourne Maharishi School

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/28fc77


This is nice.  So earnest.  Do they have to send half of their tuitions 
to accounts overseas too?  Just wondering, or is that the TMmovement 
policy just for, rich Americans?

Jai Guru Dev, 
-Doug in FF



[FairfieldLife] Re: New MUM Student Union , opens Feb 1

2008-01-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It looks like a wonderful building. A good answer to those who think
 the movement/University is dying.

Yes, it is a lovely facade like so many TMmovement buildings.

Jai Guru Dev, 

-Doug

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  Maharishi University of Management executives and trustees expect 
the 
  new Argiro Student Center to quickly become the physical and 
  emotional center of campus after its Feb. 1 grand opening.
  
  
  The 50,000-square-foot, three-level building includes a student 
  lounge and cafe, bookstore, conference room, kitchen, dance 
floor, 
  mailroom and 300-seat auditorium, as well as dining halls, 
classroom 
  space, exercise space and student government offices.
  
  
  
  The idea for the new student center evolved out of the need to 
build 
  a new kitchen.  The idea developed into a $7.5 million grand 
building 
  to accommodate a range of students' needs. About half the cost of 
the 
  center has been covered by donations and pledges, and fund-
raising 
  efforts to cover the rest are ongoing.
  
  -From page of Fairfield Ledger
  
  http://tinyurl.com/3xzvbc
  1.28.2008
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread Vaj


On Jan 29, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Vaj wrote:

Author Ken Wilber claims to have been in continuous witnessing for  
years, but in one of his books (a spiritual diary of a years time)  
he claimed the witness was not experienced after drinking fair  
amounts of wine with his new girlfriend. On vacation--South Beach.


:-)


Actually he's able to even dissolve Witness after vino sessions:

Each day we hit the beach around eleven A.M. and stay until around  
four P.M. This is truly one of the nicest beaches I've ever seen.  
Besides being pure sand--you can wade out forever and never hit a rock  
or shell--the water temperature is perfect, somewhere around eighty  
degrees so you never get chilled, no matter how long you stay in. And,  
as a matter of fact, I spend about three hours in the water each day,  
exactly up to my neck, gently bobbing up and down, tiptoes barely  
touching the bottom to hold me up. Marci, a champion swimmer, swims  
circles around me, literally. Where does that woman hide all her  
muscles? She's too curvaceous to be this athletic. Don't triathlon  
women have, like, 0% body fat? Actually, aren't they in negative fat  
space? Don't they like owe the world some fat?


I had fully expected to lose all access to the Witness, given our vino  
schcdule. And for the first night and day this happened. But floating  
in the water has not only brought back the Witness, it seems to have  
facilitated the disappearance of the Witness into nondual One Taste,  
at least on occasion. (The Witness, or pure witnessing awareness,  
tends to be of the causal, since there is usually a primitive trace of  
subject/object duality you equanimously Witness the world as  
transparent and shimmering object But with further development, the  
Witness itself disappears into everything that is witnessed, subject  
and object become One Taste, or simple Suchness, and this is the  
nondual estate. In short: ego to soul to pure Witness to One Taste.)  
So I am utterly, pleasantly surprised, floating here in nature's  
blood, to be dipped Into One Taste which in Case, is nicely salty.


There is no time in this estate, though time passes through it.  
thoughts float by in the sky, thoughts float by in the mind, waves  
float by in the ocean, and I am all of that. I am looking at none of  
it, for there is no center around which perception is organized. It is  
simply that everything is arising, moment to moment, and I am all of  
that. I do not see the sky, I am the sky, which sees itself. I do not  
feel the ocean, I am the ocean, which feels itself. I do not hear the  
birds, I am the birds, which hear themselves. There is nothing outside  
of me, there is nothing inside of me, because there is no me--there is  
simply all of this, and it has always been so. Nothing pushes me,  
nothing pulls me, because there is no me there is simply all of this,  
and it has always been so.


Ken Wilber, One Taste: Daily Reflections on Integral Spirituality;  
Shambhala [Sunday, May 18th, South Beach]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Veterans of Life

2008-01-29 Thread Marek Reavis
Thanks, Doug, it's been lucky for me and my brother and sister that 
our folks have shared their memories as thoroughly as they have, and 
that they're still available to resource despite their age.  It's 
impossible to imagine the hardships and violence that so many people 
in the 20th C. endured; I can't, at least.

The folks you mention below, and my folks, are incredibly resistant 
individuals, people of true character.  We've been lucky to know 
them.

Marek

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, that's told very special.  Thanks, is a great story.  I 
showed 
 it around my household and everyone was blown away in turn.
 
 What life does bring.  What a great story of courage. That was 
only 
 60 years ago all that happened.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU
 
 
 
 I remember an obituary last year published in the FF Ledger for 
 Harriet Berman's mother here.
 It was written in a common way, that she was fun and a great game 
 player and active in her later life and such.  The un-expanded 
part 
 of the obituary was that she grew up Jewish, in 1930's occupied 
 Poland.  I wondered then if the family had her story as she saw 
it.  
 Her MSAE grandson from FF then has now become a professional 
 journalist elsewhere, I wondered then if he had collected it or if 
it 
 had come to be too late.  There seemed to be an untold character 
 story in the obituary.  Certainly some veterans of those times 
only 
 wish to go on in life putting it behind them in their privacy.  
 
 That generation is passing fast now.
 My wife's dad was with the first army medical unit to arrive at 
 Dachau as US troops arrived and found it.  He has a scrap book 
with 
 photos and articles about it from then.  But now his own memory is 
 rickety and about all gone.
 
 At Revelations used bookstore here a while back I bought a used 
book 
 about all the concentration and work camps of Nazi Germany, in 
real 
 nice shape that had clippings from the war carefully folded in to 
the 
 book.  Evidently from someone's (from around here?) estate or 
 collection who seems to have been there.
 
 In town here we have a kind old guy who as a skilled handy-man 
takes 
 care of appliances.  As a boy he was displaced with his mother and 
 brother from East Prussian farming districts that were emptied of 
all 
 civilians as the Russian army came in that way against the Germans 
 during the war.  They traveled about as displaced civilians trying 
to 
 connect with their family's father who had been conscripted in to 
the 
 German army and sent down to Austria.  As the war narrowed down, 
like 
 with this other story they were separated by the lines of 
occupation 
 and it was quick heads-up thinking in hand-changing destinations 
on 
 travel documents that got them from the Russian occupied side over 
to 
 the American occupied side where the dad was later in the war.
 I am telling his story to you in writing this but even in doing 
that 
 I have left out a lot of viseral texture to the way he told it to 
me 
 directly.
 
 My dad had his stories from then too.  He is gone now and the 
 liveliness of those stories with him.  I remember some of them but 
 not the way he told them.
 
 -Doug in FF  
 
 
 
 
 
  Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote:
 
  Yeah, Curtis, my folks; the back stories are equally 
interesting.  
  And as you can see, the red wine (and the vodka) apparently 
haven't 
  diminished their capacities too much.  It's just a life and 
every 
  life is a story that each one of us has the opportunity to 
enrich 
  every day.  I always appreciate the stories shared on this forum 
 with 
  a community I feel so lucky to be a member of.
  
  Marek
  
  **
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis 
 reavismarek@
   wrote:
   
Curtis, here's another story I think you might enjoy told 
last 
  year 
to a local Saint Louis PBS station in Saint Louis, 
accompanied 
  with 
some inexpensive red wine.
   
   Totally blown away!  Thanks for sending this Marek.  Your 
folks?  
  What
   a fascinating couple.  What a life!  I live for stories like 
this!
   
   
   
   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0HVg1kCpxU

**





[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
snip
 I would be 
 really curious to know how many people on this list drink two 6oz. 
 glasses of wine each day and can claim that they feel no difference 
 in the experience of deep meditation.

If you drink right before you meditate, of course
you're going to feel a difference. But alcohol gets
metabolized by the system fairly quickly, so if you
have a shot or two of something before you go to
bed, say, at least in my experience, it doesn't
affect meditation the next morning. Sometimes I
have a drink before bed, sometimes I don't, and I've
never noticed any difference.

FWIW, a former boyfriend of mine who was a TMer
would have profound witnessing experiences if he so
much as drank a glass of beer. That's never
happened to me!

Very different with pot, again in my experience
(many years ago).




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a friend on Purusha in India

2008-01-29 Thread Peter
Saturday, February 2nd.

--- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As you may have heard, this is all happening
 now because it seems
  Maharishi's health has taken a bad turn. 
 Maharishi seems to have 
 been
  in the hospital for some days during silence. 
 People in Vlodrop got
  wind of it and even thought Maharishi had left the
 body.  When they
  heard on Jan 12th that Maharishi was back in
 Vlodrop and listening 
 to
  the celebration, it was a very emotional time for
 everyone.  The Jan
  19th message that Maharishi was continuing in
 Silence was, I 
 suppose,
  designed to reassure people in the field.   And
 Raja John's latest
  message that Maharishi is retiring out of
 necessity was very 
 telling.
 
 Hospital?  Yes, word around here was that Maharishi
 was taken to 
 hospital and spent some time in an oxygen tent
 during the first half 
 of January while he was in silence.  
 
 Om, it goes to show only, you know, those oxygen
 levels they do 
 decrease to a point twice as deep as in deepest
 sleep during 
 meditation, according to some research.  He is back
 retired working 
 in his home and everything is fine, according to
 some.
 
 Much needed fundraising for the TMmovement world
 peace projects 
 continues everywhere on behalf of Maharishi. 
 Business is as usual  
 mind your own business.  Meditate faithfully and
 dive into activity.
 
 Jai Guru Dev, 
 
 -Doug in FF
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dear +++
  
Thanks for forwarding the message from Bevan. 
 If you have been
  following the events around Jan 12th, you'll know
 a lot of changes 
 are
  taking place now.
  
We finally got our new satellite dish up to
 watch the Jan. 12th
  broadcasts.
  Everyone listened very intently as Maharishi
 announced that he is
  retiring, and seemingly has put everything in
 place for Maha Raja 
 Nader
  Ram, his Rajas, and the 12 Ministers to take over
 all aspects of the
  Movement's guidance and administration.  Maharishi
 has hinted at 
 this
  several times of over the past years, but there
 was a real sense of
  finality about it this time.  The underlying point
 of it all is 
 that he
  has been telling us all to be Self-Sufficient and
 not rely on him so
  much anymore.  We have the knowledge, we know what
 to do, and we 
 have
  our programme.  So now only we have to hold fast
 to it.
  
 As you may have heard, this is all happening
 now because it seems
  Maharishi's health has taken a bad turn. 
 Maharishi seems to have 
 been
  in the hospital for some days during silence. 
 People in Vlodrop got
  wind of it and even thought Maharishi had left the
 body.  When they
  heard on Jan 12th that Maharishi was back in
 Vlodrop and listening 
 to
  the celebration, it was a very emotional time for
 everyone.  The Jan
  19th message that Maharishi was continuing in
 Silence was, I 
 suppose,
  designed to reassure people in the field.   And
 Raja John's latest
  message that Maharishi is retiring out of
 necessity was very 
 telling.
  
 So we shall see what the year ahead brings us.
 It seems like 
 much of
  the day to day running of the Movement will be
 done by others now.
  Maharishi just said a few days ago that he would
 withdraw into 
 silence
  to work on final commentaries of the Vedas.
  
   It will probably be a very significant year for
 the TM Movement 
 and all
  of us.
  
  Jai Guru Dev
   
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
   shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
 conservative 
  records:
  
  The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
  
  
   
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
  
  The second from a right-winger:
  
  
 

   
  
 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
  for_hillary
  
  The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu 
or 
   Robert 
 the 
  Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing 
source:
  
  http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
  
  But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and 
continue 
 on 
with 
  the illusion that the Clintons are centrist Democrats.  
  Why, 
   to 
  take an alternative position would mean that you would 
  actually 
  have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!
 
 Funny, because triangulating from these three
 pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
 is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.

Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the 
fastest
known rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the
time you posted.
   
   Don't be silly. I read fast, and they aren't *that*
   long. Took me about a half an hour. I did just skim
   the last half of the third one, though.
   
Nice try.

Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the
articles show anything but what I suggested.
   
   Read them again, Shemp. They don't say what you wish
   they said.
  
  Well, then, since they don't say what I claim they say and, 
  apparently, they say what YOU claim, it shouldn't be too 
difficult 
  for you to list the reasons why the Clintons are centrist 
Democrats.
  
  I've listed my evidence.  Now see if you can put all that 
  triangulating to good use and list your evidence, too.
 
 Jesus, Shemp. It's the *same evidence*. Any
 recital of Clinton's policies is going to list
 the same ones. What they add up to is *centrism*--
 neither all conservative nor all liberal, but a
 mixture, so they're in the, you know, center.
 
 Nobody's saying he didn't take some relatively
 conservative positions, but he also took some
 relatively liberal positions.
 
 Have you never heard of the DLC?
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council
 
 Notice who was the first chair of the DLC.



Just as I thought.  She couldn't come up with anything.





[FairfieldLife] Re: recipe for good health

2008-01-29 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie msilver1951@ 
 wrote:
 snip
  I would be 
  really curious to know how many people on this list drink two 
6oz. 
  glasses of wine each day and can claim that they feel no 
difference 
  in the experience of deep meditation.
 
 If you drink right before you meditate, of course
 you're going to feel a difference. But alcohol gets
 metabolized by the system fairly quickly, so if you
 have a shot or two of something before you go to
 bed, say, at least in my experience, it doesn't
 affect meditation the next morning. Sometimes I
 have a drink before bed, sometimes I don't, and I've
 never noticed any difference.
 
 FWIW, a former boyfriend of mine who was a TMer
 would have profound witnessing experiences if he so
 much as drank a glass of beer. That's never
 happened to me!
 
 Very different with pot, again in my experience
 (many years ago).



My advice to you is to start drinking heavily.




[FairfieldLife] Machida - Heart of Shotokan

2008-01-29 Thread off_world_beings
Lyota Machida...unlike any of the other UFC arrogant goons.

Heart of Shotokan...humble and pureand excellent.
- Heart of Shotokan:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wef55taUSyU

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-EQozpH4Jyg

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: For Judy the Clintonista

2008-01-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
   shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  Here are three articles that document Bill and Hillary's 
 conservative 
  records:
  
  The first from the left-wing New Yorker:
  
  
   
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/09/17/070917fa_fact_lizza
  
  The second from a right-winger:
  
  
 

   
  
 
http://townhall.com/columnists/BruceBartlett/2007/05/01/conservatives_
  for_hillary
  
  The third from an article that I believe either Barfitu 
or 
   Robert 
 the 
  Rhymer posted here and is from an EXTREME left-wing 
source:
  
  http://www.isreview.org/issues/13/clinton-gore.shtml
  
  But you go ahead, Judy, you sweet dear thing, and 
continue 
 on 
with 
  the illusion that the Clintons are centrist Democrats.  
  Why, 
   to 
  take an alternative position would mean that you would 
  actually 
  have to think for yourself and, hey, we can't have that!
 
 Funny, because triangulating from these three
 pieces shows as clearly as can be that Clinton
 is a centrist Democrat. Good choices, Shemp.

Funny, because unless you speed read at three times the 
fastest
known rate, there's no way you could have read them all by the
time you posted.
   
   Don't be silly. I read fast, and they aren't *that*
   long. Took me about a half an hour. I did just skim
   the last half of the third one, though.
   
Nice try.

Also, nice try in hoodwinking people to believe that the
articles show anything but what I suggested.
   
   Read them again, Shemp. They don't say what you wish
   they said.
  
  Well, then, since they don't say what I claim they say and, 
  apparently, they say what YOU claim, it shouldn't be too 
difficult 
  for you to list the reasons why the Clintons are centrist 
Democrats.
  
  I've listed my evidence.  Now see if you can put all that 
  triangulating to good use and list your evidence, too.
 
 Jesus, Shemp. It's the *same evidence*. Any
 recital of Clinton's policies is going to list
 the same ones. What they add up to is *centrism*--
 neither all conservative nor all liberal, but a
 mixture, so they're in the, you know, center.


Yep...and his basic liberal positions he took in the Oval office with 
Monica are what most of us Celts consider everyday divine 
behaviour.and as God/Goddess willed it. 

http://www.kamat.com/kalranga/erotica/khaju.htm

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Off_World - scary prediction, or, in the right place, right time?

2008-01-29 Thread off_world_beings
PREDICTION Nov. 26th 2007
POST # 156092
on FFL

Whatever, you want to believe about this is up to you, but on 
November 26th 2007, I stuck my neck out here on FFL, and made a 
prediction. 

I literally had never heard of Lyoto Machida or anything like him 
at that time, but if you read this prediction below that was posted 
in post number 156092 on FFL, on Nov. 27, 2007, you will see that I 
predicted it.

NOTE: 
On that day, after a fair amount of argument with you guys, I still 
knew I was right on this, but I had no proof. Now, I fukin' hate God, 
and all religion, but I literally prayed to God that night to show a 
sign that this was true...and LITERALLY...that same night...I 
searched the MMA on YouTube and (to me, almost miraculously, and very 
quickly ) found 'Lyoto Machida'. I had never heard of him until that 
moment. 

You can believe what you want, but the above is true, and it was 
before I ever heard of any Shotokan person in UFC (I had only just a 
few days before learned what the UFC actually was ! ), and I had not 
heard of any Shotokan person associated with it. (All respect to Jyu 
Jitsu by the way, as I am not putting it down anymore) 

Here below is the quote from the post, when I had only just found out 
what the UFC actually was, and predicted then, that one day, a 
Shotokan trained fighter would come and teach them all. I prayed that 
night to a God I almost hate, and then Lyota shows up immediatley, in 
a random search for shotokan UFC Far quicker than I predicted ( I 
was thinking in the next 5-10 years or so a shotokan figher would 
turn up to teach the world in this sport)

Wow...here is the quote below from the Nov. 26 2007 post here on FFL:

Shotokan dominates Martial Arts, and almost all Shotokan experts are
totally humble.
-snip-
The only thing more powerful than thatpure transcendental
consiousness.
- snip-
...I therefore predict that one day you will see a true Shotokan 
master enter your babies Octagon. Silence will enfold the world at 
that point and the monstor on steroids that you hold so 
highlywill be annihilated.

This day will come, and you will see it. That is my prediction, and
you will be awestruck.
--OffWorld
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/156092


OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Off_World - scary prediction, or, in the right place, right time?

2008-01-29 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 PREDICTION Nov. 26th 2007
 POST # 156092
 on FFL
 
 Whatever, you want to believe about this is up to you, but on 
 November 26th 2007, I stuck my neck out here on FFL, and made a 
 prediction. 
 
 I literally had never heard of Lyoto Machida or anything like him 
 at that time, but if you read this prediction below that was posted 
 in post number 156092 on FFL, on Nov. 27, 2007, you will see that I 
 predicted it.
 
 NOTE: 
 On that day, after a fair amount of argument with you guys, I still 
 knew I was right on this, but I had no proof. Now, I fukin' hate 
God, 
 and all religion, but I literally prayed to God that night to show 
a 
 sign that this was true...and LITERALLY...that same night...I 
 searched the MMA on YouTube and (to me, almost miraculously, and 
very 
 quickly ) found 'Lyoto Machida'. I had never heard of him until 
that 
 moment. 
 
 You can believe what you want, but the above is true, and it was 
 before I ever heard of any Shotokan person in UFC (I had only just 
a 
 few days before learned what the UFC actually was ! ), and I had 
not 
 heard of any Shotokan person associated with it. (All respect to 
Jyu 
 Jitsu by the way, as I am not putting it down anymore) 
 
 Here below is the quote from the post, when I had only just found 
out 
 what the UFC actually was, and predicted then, that one day, a 
 Shotokan trained fighter would come and teach them all. I prayed 
that 
 night to a God I almost hate, and then Lyota shows up immediatley, 
in 
 a random search for shotokan UFC Far quicker than I predicted ( I 
 was thinking in the next 5-10 years or so a shotokan figher would 
 turn up to teach the world in this sport)
 
 Wow...here is the quote below from the Nov. 26 2007 post here on 
FFL:
 
 Shotokan dominates Martial Arts, and almost all Shotokan experts 
are
 totally humble.
 -snip-
 The only thing more powerful than thatpure transcendental
 consiousness.
 - snip-
 ...I therefore predict that one day you will see a true Shotokan 
 master enter your babies Octagon. Silence will enfold the world at 
 that point and the monstor on steroids that you hold so 
 highlywill be annihilated.
 
 This day will come, and you will see it. That is my prediction, 
and
 you will be awestruck.
 --OffWorld
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/156092
 
 
 OffWorld


...and here he is:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wef55taUSyU

OffWorld