[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

[guyfawkes91]

I know that some people get het up about TM teachers who go indy and
keep the money for themselves. But look at it another way, if you want
the movement to survive then people have to be able to make a living
as  professional teachers. The TMO cannot survive forever on handouts
from the rich, there's a declining supply of them and in a couple of
decades they'll all be dead. So how will the movement make a living then? 

The only option for long term survival is to become like any other
profession, train people well, trust them to run their own businesses
and set their own prices, let them keep the money and expand their
business. The independent sector is doing the movement a favor by
demonstrating that the lack of new initiates in the official channel
isn't due to a lack of coherence, or bad vastu , or bad karma, or lack
of purity. It's due to having a non-viable business model. Teachers in
the independent sector can make a good living and they teach lots of
people. More people learn TM through the indy channel than the
official channel. Charging people a fortune, paying  teachers a
pittance and surviving by extracting money from the rich in exchange
for the hope that "next year the phase transition will come", is not a
viable business model in the long term.

On the other hand people who give money to the movement are doing the
TMO a great disservice by protecting it from economic reality and
encouraging delusional thinking.

Eventually, when the donation money runs out, whoever is left in the
official TMO will have to let teachers set their own prices, keep the
money and earn a living because that is the only business model that
works.


 
> > New York City Course:
> > HYPERLINK
> >
"http://www.londonmeditationcentre.com/index.php/nymc/"http://www.londonmedi
> > tationcentre.com/index.php/nymc/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > Why doesn't he just say, "Vote Democratic"?
> 
> Same reason Maharishi doesn't use short sentences
> when he's telling *his* followers what to think 
> and what to do. If, like them, you're paying big 
> bucks to have someone run your life, you want it 
> done in as many words as possible.  :-)

Non sequitur.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Across the universe

[curtisdeltablues]

Mr. 'lil ol blues boy wannabee that you 
> are. What a fucking cliche. Its the 21st century. Any white man
still > playing the blues should be looking for another job.

BTW America wants all of its music back that you Brits have been
slavishly copying, cuz you are acting like a douchebag.  You can keep
the "skiffle."  Have fun with that.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to intrude in such nice projection but John wrote the song 
> when
> > his wife Cynthea kept running her mouth BEFORE they went to 
> Rishikesh.  >>
> 
> "Jai Guru DevaOM, nothings gonna change my world, nothings going 
> to change my world...Jai Guru Deva...Om"
> 
> And now Curtis you are so mad that it is being sent out on a ship  
> across the universe. 
> 
> Your pathetic attempt to explain the obvious about song writning is 
> pitiable. 
> 
> I, like most people, am perfectly aware of how songs are piece-mealed 
> together, and yes I have written many songs, of which you are not 
> remotely ready to hear ...Mr. 'lil ol blues boy wannabee that you 
> are. What a fucking cliche. Its the 21st century. Any white man still 
> playing the blues should be looking for another job.
> 
> I was reading in depth about Lennon and McCartney and Harrison at a 
> young age, which at the same age you were still into "the age of 
> Aquarius" by whoever the fuck that retard American group was.
> 
> Don't try to teach me about music Curtis, you're American. That means 
> you literally have only half the story. You can't remoteley 
> understand Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison unless you are a Brit. You 
> don't even know how Hendrix made it you dumb fucking American...and 
> no...it was not through American recognition.
> 
> "JAI GURU DEVAOM. Nothings gonna change my world, nothings gonna 
> change my world"
> 
> We know you find that chorus of this great song SOO painful 
> Curtis, but get used to it. It has now been spread across the 
> universe, and it is the absolute kernal and power of this song and it 
> was about TM and Maharishi's Guru Dev. ...and you know it.
> 
> OffWorld
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Internal TV tuner card

[Bhairitu]

Rick Archer wrote:
> 7) What else should I know that I haven't even thought of?
>   
As long as you have a network you might consider the HDHomeRun box which 
has two tuners.  That's what I use these days over the Fusion card as it 
works on anything including my Linux box.
http://www.silicondust.com/



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Internal TV tuner card

[Bhairitu]

Rick Archer wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhairitu
>> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 2:10 PM
>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Internal TV tuner card
>>
>> Rick Archer wrote:
>> 
>>> Has anyone had any experience with adding an internal TV tuner card
>>>   
>> to their
>> 
>>> PC, and can they recommend a brand?
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date:
>>>   
>> 2/2/2008
>> 
>>> 1:50 PM
>>>   
>> I use the Fusion 5 Gold card from DVICO (now discontinued because they
>> have newer models) which works well.  The only thing I don't like about
>> it is that it doesn't save the files as regular transport streams (ts)
>> but instead a stream that requires conversion since they don't play
>> readily on my networked player.
>> http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/eng/
>> I ordered mine through Digital Connection:
>> http://www.digitalconnection.com/
>> You can also look on the AVSForum's home theater PC section for other
>> recommendations or experiences since there are a number of companies
>> that make cards:
>> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=26/
>> 
>
> Thanks. May I ask a few questions?
>
> 1) I have a nice PC
> (http://support.gateway.com/s/pc/R/1009215/1009215nv.shtml) with 4 Gb RAM
> and two 250 Gb drives, running Windows Vista, including Windows Media
> Center. My PC is in an room on the other side of a wall from our TV. 
>   
Make sure the card is Vista compatible.
> 2) I presume that I'll be able to watch TV on my PC with this card - all the
> channels my cable or satellite dish (to which we're switching) provides to
> my TV. Some of them also have FM radio tuners.
>   
The cards work with OTA (over the air or broadcast) signals ATSC and the 
NTSC (which will be defunct about year from now) and some including mine 
work with cable QAM.  I don't know of any that work with US satellite.  
They only work with unencrypted signals i.e. broadcast or clear QAM.
> 3) What interaction will this card enable my PC to have with my TV?
>   
You would have to have a network player connected to the TV.  Then it 
will work with Windows Media Center and some alternate media servers.
> 4) Will the PC be able to serve as a DVR for the TV, in addition to the DVR
> that the cable or satellite service provides?
>   
It can with unencrypted signals. There may be some that work with 
encrypted via Media Center but I'm not up on those.  I already have a 
cable box for the encrypted as well as a D-VHS recorder for anything 
encrypted (Showtime, HBO, UHD, TNT-HD, USA-HD, etc).  Otherwise for 
encrypted it may be less hassle just to get the cable or satellite DVR.  
I don't have one because Comcast wants it's subscribers to have their 
extended basic which I would never watch so it's a screwy deal.  But 
most of the shows I want to watch are unencrypted or are available 
OnDemand.  BTW, I'm getting awfully spoiled with both HD-DVD and BluRay 
players as those disks are far superior to anything you'll see 
broadcast, satellite or cable. :-)
> 5) Will I be able to play things on the TV that I've downloaded with the
> computer?
>   
Again with a networked player.  I connect with an ethernet cable as wifi 
is probably too slow or prone to interference though maybe N might work.
> 6) I notice that TV tuner cards come with remotes, but will they work
> through a wall, or do they need a clear line of sight, as does the TV
> remote?
>   
I suspect they're all infrared so won't work through walls.  That would 
require an RF remote. The only thing I have which is RF is the $20 light 
switch which to control with a universal remote like the  LogiTech 
Harmony 890 adds $100 retail to the remote cost.  :-)
> 7) What else should I know that I haven't even thought of?
>   
Obviously a router but you may already have that.  I think you've 
mentioned you have an HD set so you're fine for the future.  Analog goes 
dark Feb. 17th, 2009.  You probably have a lot of choices to look at and 
you may also want to look at the USB tuners too as those are becoming 
popular.  The AVSForum is a great resource to look up opinions and answers.
> Thanks.
>
>   



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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[Rick Archer]

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Nelson
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 8:12 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

 

> > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a 
> > free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall 
> > not be infringed."
> 
> And where are the militias who bear arms to protect
> the security of their states?
>
They are on the southern border war zone- should be hearing
something from there soon.

The Mexican border is a war zone? The folks wading the Rio Grande or
climbing the fence are armed and need to be engaged in a gun battle?


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Across the universe

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry to intrude in such nice projection but John wrote the song 
when
> his wife Cynthea kept running her mouth BEFORE they went to 
Rishikesh.  >>

"Jai Guru DevaOM, nothings gonna change my world, nothings going 
to change my world...Jai Guru Deva...Om"

And now Curtis you are so mad that it is being sent out on a ship  
across the universe. 

Your pathetic attempt to explain the obvious about song writning is 
pitiable. 

I, like most people, am perfectly aware of how songs are piece-mealed 
together, and yes I have written many songs, of which you are not 
remotely ready to hear ...Mr. 'lil ol blues boy wannabee that you 
are. What a fucking cliche. Its the 21st century. Any white man still 
playing the blues should be looking for another job.

I was reading in depth about Lennon and McCartney and Harrison at a 
young age, which at the same age you were still into "the age of 
Aquarius" by whoever the fuck that retard American group was.

Don't try to teach me about music Curtis, you're American. That means 
you literally have only half the story. You can't remoteley 
understand Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison unless you are a Brit. You 
don't even know how Hendrix made it you dumb fucking American...and 
no...it was not through American recognition.

"JAI GURU DEVAOM. Nothings gonna change my world, nothings gonna 
change my world"

We know you find that chorus of this great song SOO painful 
Curtis, but get used to it. It has now been spread across the 
universe, and it is the absolute kernal and power of this song and it 
was about TM and Maharishi's Guru Dev. ...and you know it.

OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regarding religious and political free
> speech, the  Democrats would have a tuff time passing legislation on
these
> issues so they get  their judges to legislate from the bench. Let's
look at the
> most obvious and  first instance in my life time that I'm aware of.
Everybody
> knows education is a  states responsibility and school prayer was
common up
> until the early sixties  but the USSC ruled it could not be done. Some
excuse of
> a separation of church  and state which is no where in the
constitution but
> found in a letter by Thomas  Jefferson to the Danbury Ct. Baptists
assuring them
> the Federal government would  not establish an official Church of
State.
> However, the first amendment does  guarantee that the government shall
not
> establish a state religion NOR prohibit  the FREE exercise there of.
So if some
> federal judge is telling people where and  when they can or can not
pray that is
> prohibiting the free exercise there of  claus, especially if it is the
will of
> the people in that school district to  begin the day that way.


So you blame the democrats for abolishing formalized school prayer?  Why
thank you. :)  The 1963 joint decisions on school prayer had ONE
dissent.  Interestingly, the cases, as are so often true, were more
about the power of the federal constitution versus the power of the
states.  There was a long history going back probably 100 years that the
federal government was to remain neutral on religious questions and do
nothing to promote a religion.

  Some of the current justices, like Thomas, would say that if a state
wanted school prayer that would be fine, it is not the federal
government's business.  My bet Thomas would go so far as saying that if
a state wanted to establish a state religion, it could do so.

Me, I believe in the right of the individual to be free from state or
federal coerced religious practice.  A good, solid liberal position.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

[bob_brigante]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "suziezuzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > I'm pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record, 
> Americans
> > > performed the Berlin Air Lift for free.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > **
> > 
> > The Americans didn't give a damn about the Krauts, who they 
burned, 
> > men, women and children by the hundreds of thousands in the 
> pointless 
> > firebombing of German cities in WWII. The Berlin Air Lift was not 
a 
> > humanitarian gesture, but an attempt to keep the Russkis from 
> taking 
> > over more of Germany as their exclusive military outpost (rather 
> than 
> > the Americans keeping their many bases in Germany). 
> > http://tinyurl.com/2d4hy6
> >
> I remember my business law teacher in high school refer to this 
event 
> as a whimp out by Kennedy because at that time, the US had the 
> dominant nucleur position over the Russians and could have simply 
> blasted the wall down. The Russians would have been in no position 
to 
> respond.
>

*

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/cwr/17378.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Ruth, excellent response and post.  I disagree only with your 2d 
> > Amend. analysis.  Gun ownership by the individual is fundamental to 
> > this country; in the last few years many constitutional experts have 
> > examined the 2d Amend. and construed it to guarantee rights to the 
> > individual, rather than the government militia.  In my read that's 
> > exactly what it states.  
> > 
> > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a 
> > free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall 
> > not be infringed."
> 
> And where are the militias who bear arms to protect
> the security of their states?
>
   They are on the southern border war zone- should be hearing
something from there soon.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 2/3/08 6:46:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Be  careful when you listen to the candidates talk about this stuff. I
> know the  market and I know health insurance. They do not. They get
> stuff third and  forth hand and put their own spin on what they learn
> and cherry pick facts.  The health care problem in the US is a big,
> messy problem with many facets.  Don't minimize it. 
> 
> 
> 
> I think Mitt Romney probably is in a better place to know more than
you  
> since he helped develop a health care program for his  state.
> 


Well, you don't know my bona fides, so fair enough.   But I trust that
you know that Romney himself did not develop the Mass. plan and the
odds of him reading all the dang census bureau reports and other
research is about nill. 

(FWIW, I do know more about health insurance than Romney :))

RE: [FairfieldLife] Internal TV tuner card

[Rick Archer]

> -Original Message-
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bhairitu
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 2:10 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Internal TV tuner card
> 
> Rick Archer wrote:
> > Has anyone had any experience with adding an internal TV tuner card
> to their
> > PC, and can they recommend a brand?
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this outgoing message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date:
> 2/2/2008
> > 1:50 PM
> I use the Fusion 5 Gold card from DVICO (now discontinued because they
> have newer models) which works well.  The only thing I don't like about
> it is that it doesn't save the files as regular transport streams (ts)
> but instead a stream that requires conversion since they don't play
> readily on my networked player.
> http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/eng/
> I ordered mine through Digital Connection:
> http://www.digitalconnection.com/
> You can also look on the AVSForum's home theater PC section for other
> recommendations or experiences since there are a number of companies
> that make cards:
> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=26/

Thanks. May I ask a few questions?

1) I have a nice PC
(http://support.gateway.com/s/pc/R/1009215/1009215nv.shtml) with 4 Gb RAM
and two 250 Gb drives, running Windows Vista, including Windows Media
Center. My PC is in an room on the other side of a wall from our TV. 
2) I presume that I'll be able to watch TV on my PC with this card - all the
channels my cable or satellite dish (to which we're switching) provides to
my TV. Some of them also have FM radio tuners.
3) What interaction will this card enable my PC to have with my TV?
4) Will the PC be able to serve as a DVR for the TV, in addition to the DVR
that the cable or satellite service provides?
5) Will I be able to play things on the TV that I've downloaded with the
computer?
6) I notice that TV tuner cards come with remotes, but will they work
through a wall, or do they need a clear line of sight, as does the TV
remote?
7) What else should I know that I haven't even thought of?

Thanks.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[MDixon6569]

In a message dated 2/3/08 11:52:01 A.M. Central  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Higher taxes: This doesn't  have anything to do with your party
affiliation. If you spend a lot,  generally taxes have to go up. The
republicans have been spending a lot of  late, but have not touched the
taxes. If they go up under the dems, it could  be because we have to pay
for the prior republican  spending.



Democrats attack religious freedom or political speech?  Ha! Show me. 
Don't forget that the federal government is not allowed to  support a
particular religion or any religion.


I agree Republicans  have lost their way when it comes to fiscal policy, 
spending like drunken  sailors and they paid the price for this in the last 
election. However in a  growing economy all that is necessary to eliminate 
deficit 
spending is hold the  line on spending and the revenues will grow into the 
budget. So  a tax hike  is not necessary.< Regarding religious and political 
free 
speech, the  Democrats would have a tuff time passing legislation on these 
issues so they get  their judges to legislate from the bench. Let's look at the 
most obvious and  first instance in my life time that I'm aware of. Everybody 
knows education is a  states responsibility and school prayer was common up 
until the early sixties  but the USSC ruled it could not be done. Some excuse 
of 
a separation of church  and state which is no where in the constitution but 
found in a letter by Thomas  Jefferson to the Danbury Ct. Baptists assuring 
them 
the Federal government would  not establish an official Church of State. 
However, the first amendment does  guarantee that the government shall not 
establish a state religion NOR prohibit  the FREE exercise there of. So if some 
federal judge is telling people where and  when they can or can not pray that 
is 
prohibiting the free exercise there of  claus, especially if it is the will of 
the people in that school district to  begin the day that way.< How about free 
speech? Lets look at McCain/ Feingold  for example. Ah Yes, but you say McCain 
is a Republican and it had bipartisan  support. McCAin is not called a RINO 
for nothing and it was the Democrats that  really pushed the issue of 
restricting free political speech through this bill  that Bush so unwisely 
signed into 
law.So lets look at another , the Fairness  Doctrine which democrats first 
imposed on the FCC and want to bring back so they  can force Talk Radio to 
present their sides to any argument which most talk  radio listeners don't want 
to 
even listen to.  




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[MDixon6569]

 
In a message dated 2/3/08 6:46:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Be  careful when you listen to the candidates talk about this stuff. I
know the  market and I know health insurance. They do not. They get
stuff third and  forth hand and put their own spin on what they learn
and cherry pick facts.  The health care problem in the US is a big,
messy problem with many facets.  Don't minimize it. 



I think Mitt Romney probably is in a better place to know more than you  
since he helped develop a health care program for his  state.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> For the record, while there are three references to "angels,"
> there is only one to "gods," plural.  All the rest are to "God," 
> singular, capitalized,  and many of these are in phrases such as
> "God consciousness" and "God realization"--i.e.,  enlightenment.
> 
> Close enough for government work

Don't think so, in context. Remember, this first came
up when Edg recounted bringing SBAL to his intro lecture
and demanding of the teacher what were all these "gods
and angels" MMY was talking about--and he said he had
the phrases highlighted.

If he had been worried about "God" being mentioned,
he'd have had to highlight most of the book, and his
question would have been different--e.g., Why is MMY
always talking about "God" if TM is secular?

Basically, people can talk about "God" without
necessarily speaking from a sectarian religious
perspective; but if they're talking about "gods and
angels," that's less likely, especially in the West.

I'll bet Edg's concern was more that MMY was
promoting Hinduism than that he was talking about
"God."

I mean, we all know SBAL is full of talk about "God,"
so digging up all the references to "God" didn't
really prove anything that was actually in contention.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
> > >  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Okay, this is old school.  Is is the way verifications
> > > > should be done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to 
> > > > admit his error.  Let's see what the future posts hold.
> > > > Tip of the hat to you, John Manning.
> > > 
> > > Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after
> > > claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be
> > > Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was.
> > > 
> > > He'll pretend he never said anything...
> > > 
> > > This is what a TM TB calls "the truth."
> > 
> > Speaking of "the truth," I'm unable to find anywhere
> > that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase
> > "angels and gods" appears in SBAL.
> > 
> > Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?
> 
> Actually I made a comment challenging Edg to provide a reference
> to angels&gods knowing he would be unable to. That someone else 
> found them is a different thing altogether.

But you never made a *claim*. And you acknowledged
you couldn't be sure since you hadn't read SBAL in
some years.

So as usual, we see Barry creating his very own
"facts" at the same time he's berating a TMer for
doing so when the TMer did no such thing.

Plus which, he was wrong about you not being willing
to acknowledge that the phrase did appear (once) in
SBAL.

Do you think we'll see an acknowledgment from Barry
that (a) he misstated what you said and (b) he was
wrong that you wouldn't acknowledge the facts?

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 2/3/08 6:00:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> 7. From  the 2004 Census, it appears that families with incomes between 
> $50,000 and  $75,000 is the fastest growing group of uninsured.
Also, from the 
> Kaiser 2005  employer health benefits survey, the percentage of
employers offering 
>  insurance has decreased every year for the past six years, almost
entirely 
> in  the small group market, with 40% of employers not offering any
health  
> insurance. Interestingly, 98% of employers which have 200+ employees
offer  health 
> insurance.
> 
> 
> 
> Her's one more number for you. About half of those 47 million
uninsured  
> people can afford to buy their own health insurance but choose not
to because  
> they know they can just show up at an emergency room and not be
turned away.  
> Mitt Romney in the presidential debate from the Reagan  Library.
> 


Not true.  First, it is true that emergency rooms are required under
federal law to treat emergencies to the point the person is
stabilized.  For example, they do not provide chemotherapy to cancer
patients.  They do not dispense drugs.  Plus, the care is NOT free. If
you can afford health insurance, you can bet that hospital emergency
room is going to try to collect from you if you do not pay them.
Hospitals frequently garnish people's wages for unpaid health care.  I
once had a person testify in a state legislative body about how she
got ill and ended up in the hospital.  She was 21 and without
insurance.  The bill went unpaid.  The collection agency the hospital
hired to get their money told her that is she wasn't going to pay her
bills it would have been better if she died.  I can give you many many
more such stories.  

The second untruth is that there are no good figures on how many of
the uninsured can actually afford insurance.  The problem is that the
insurance market is so fragmented that one person in one place might
be able to afford insurance, but in another place cannot.   Plus, if
that person has preexisiting conditions, they very well may preclude
that person from buying insurance at all, even if they can afford it. 

Take a family earning $50,000 a year.  The employer drops health
insurance.  The family goes to buy on the individual market.  Some
family members get turned down.  Dad has high cholesterol and high bp,
both controlled with drugs.  He still probably will get turned down. 
One of the kids has asthma--might get turned down.  Mom had a
hysterectomy a few years ago, she gets turned down.  Maybe they can
buy on a risk pool or get a HIPAA plan.  Depending on the state, each
family member might have to buy their own plan.  The cost can be in
the thousands a month.  They seem like middle income people but they
can't afford insurance.   

Be careful when you listen to the candidates talk about this stuff.  I
know the market and I know health insurance.  They do not.  They get
stuff third and forth hand and put their own spin on what they learn
and cherry pick facts.  The health care problem in the US is a big,
messy problem with many facets.  Don't minimize it.  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

[suziezuzie]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record, 
Americans
> > performed the Berlin Air Lift for free.
> > 
> > 
> 
> **
> 
> The Americans didn't give a damn about the Krauts, who they burned, 
> men, women and children by the hundreds of thousands in the 
pointless 
> firebombing of German cities in WWII. The Berlin Air Lift was not a 
> humanitarian gesture, but an attempt to keep the Russkis from 
taking 
> over more of Germany as their exclusive military outpost (rather 
than 
> the Americans keeping their many bases in Germany). 
> http://tinyurl.com/2d4hy6
>
I remember my business law teacher in high school refer to this event 
as a whimp out by Kennedy because at that time, the US had the 
dominant nucleur position over the Russians and could have simply 
blasted the wall down. The Russians would have been in no position to 
respond. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[MDixon6569]

 
In a message dated 2/3/08 6:00:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

7. From  the 2004 Census, it appears that families with incomes between 
$50,000 and  $75,000 is the fastest growing group of uninsured. Also, from the 
Kaiser 2005  employer health benefits survey, the percentage of employers 
offering 
 insurance has decreased every year for the past six years, almost entirely 
in  the small group market, with 40% of employers not offering any health  
insurance. Interestingly, 98% of employers which have 200+ employees offer  
health 
insurance.



Her's one more number for you. About half of those 47 million uninsured  
people can afford to buy their own health insurance but choose not to because  
they know they can just show up at an emergency room and not be turned away.  
Mitt Romney in the presidential debate from the Reagan  Library.



**Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. 
(http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025
48)

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ruth wrote:
> > It isn't like people are going to lose their will
> > to work if they get health care paid for by tax
> > dollars.
> >
> They might if they don't need any health care or if
> they are forced to buy government health care when they
> don't need it. Why should young people be forced to pay
> for the health care of older people? It doesn't make
> any sense. It's a crazy ponzi scheme just like Social
> Security.
>
> "There is an analogy between the compulsory aspects of
> the candidates' health care proposals and Social Security.
> A young man or woman would be crazy to participate in the
> Social Security system if he or she had any choice. If
> anyone saved 12.4% of his earnings over a lifetime, he
> would not only have far more money in retirement than
> Social Security can provide, it would, equally important,
> be his money, to invest and dispose of as he sees fit.
> But the government needs young people's money to support
> their grandparents' retirements, so Social Security is
> forced upon them. The same thing, in essence, will happen
> with health care if any comprehensive "reform" plan is
> adopted."
>


I can't answer you in a sound bite, but . . . .

So, you would rather have  47 million people uninsured?  And it isn't
the old people that are uninsured, it a mix of people.  For example,
young people with jobs that don't offer insurance or the insurance costs
too much.  They feel bullet proof and go without.  Some will have
accidents.  Some will get cancer.  They are screwed.  Some will get
treated anyway, but because they are judgment proof the health care
providers eat the cost and pass it along to everyone else.  The problem
is that people can't say they don't need health insurance because they
are healthy.  Health is not something that is a matter of personal
control.  Sure you can live a healthy life, but you still can get
cancer,  be born with diabetes or other chronic illness, or have an
accident.  I personally have seen far too many of those young healthy
people who suddenly are not healthy any more and cannot get health
insurance at any price.

The fastest growing demographic of uninsured are families making between
$50,000 and $75,000 a year.  In large part, the reason for this growth
is that small employers (with less than 100 employees) are less and less
frequently offering health insurance.

Here are some numbers for ya:

1.The number of uninsured is increasing. Current Census estimates show
that, in 2005, 44.8 million people, 15.3 percent of the population, were
without health insurance. (This is a drop from earlier Census estimates
of 46 million however, recent estimate are showing about 47 million.)
The Census only counted people who were uninsured for at least an entire
year.

2. A 2004 study from Families USA found that 81.8 million lacked health
insurance at some point in 2002 and 2003 and most were uninsured for
more than 9 months. Adding to these numbers, the Commonwealth Fund has
found 16 million adults were under-insured in 2003.

3. About 20% of the uninsured are children according to the Robert Wood
Johnson Foundation. The foundation found that about 70% of those
children would be eligible for SCHIP or Medicaid, but parents often are
unaware of the eligibility or daunted by the paperwork. There is no one
out there advertising these programs.

4. Medicaid is administered by the states. States divide low income
people into three groups: children, parents of children, and non-parent
adults. In 40 of 50 states non-parent adults are not eligible for
Medicaid at all, even if they do not have a penny to their name, unless
they are fully and completely disabled. The remaining 10 states provide
some coverage but it is very limited. Look at the Kaiser Family
Foundation website, it reports a lot of this information about Medicaid.

5. In 14 states, more than 1/3 of non-elderly people had no health
insurance for all or part of 2002 and 2003. Texas and California were
the worst.

6. The National Academy of Sciences has found that lack of insurance
causes about 18,000 unnecessary deaths a year. About 1400 is from
undiagnosed high blood pressure. Chronic diseases and cancer do not get
treated in the emergency room. Here is an interesting article on
Houston's problem with one million uninsured and the inability for many
to get treatment for cancer:

http://www.click2houston.com/investi...14/detail.html


7. From the 2004 Census, it appears that families with incomes between
$50,000 and $75,000 is the fastest growing group of uninsured. Also,
from the Kaiser 2005 employer health benefits survey, the percentage of
employers offering insurance has decreased every year for the past six
years, almost entirely in the small group market, with 40% of employers
not offering any health insurance. Interestingly, 98% of employers whi

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Ruth, excellent response and post.  I disagree only with your 2d 
> Amend. analysis.  Gun ownership by the individual is fundamental to 
> this country; in the last few years many constitutional experts have 
> examined the 2d Amend. and construed it to guarantee rights to the 
> individual, rather than the government militia.  In my read that's 
> exactly what it states.  
> 
> "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a 
> free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall 
> not be infringed."

And where are the militias who bear arms to protect
the security of their states?

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > snip
> 
> 
> > 
> > Unlike the USA, Switzerland has tended to stay the hell out of other
> > countries politically and militarily.
> >
>   That is a good point and, America would do well to see the connection.
>However, I doubt that was the deciding factor in  Hitler's plan to
> take over everything.


And I doubt it was because a lot of the population had guns. Even if
they did, they couldn't prevent the German military from occupying the
country.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[ruthsimplicity]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Ruth, excellent response and post.  I disagree only with your 2d 
> Amend. analysis.  Gun ownership by the individual is fundamental to 
> this country; in the last few years many constitutional experts have 
> examined the 2d Amend. and construed it to guarantee rights to the 
> individual, rather than the government militia.  In my read that's 
> exactly what it states.  
> 
> "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free 
> State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be 
> infringed."
> 
> 'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the 
> Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable 
> inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and fettered 
> by the laws of the new republic.  It was assumed that eventually any 
> government will go bad and the ability to resist your own government 
> (gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the last 
> resorts to Tyranny.
> 
> The fact that it sits uneasily with many modern sensibilities 
> doesn't mean it doesn't say what it says.  Though that's just the 
> way I see, and there is a lot of disagreement continuing.  I think 
> the Supremes have a  2d Amend. case in this term; I haven't been 
> following it.
> 
> Marek
> 

Well, I didn't really give a second amendment analysis.  I said it was
awkwardly worded which has led to dispute.  Yes, it says what it says,
but what the heck is all that militia stuff about?  (rhetorical
question, you need not answer).  And even if the right is an
individual right, to what extent can government regulate that right?  

Various restrictions on gun ownership have been upheld by lower courts
and most everyone agrees that some restrictions are going to be fine,
even if the second amendment is an individual right. (Otherwise,
people could go around carrying machine guns and hand grenades.) The
case you likely are refering to is the Heller case, discussed in
wikipedia here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller  This case
involved an absolute ban on handguns. Given the current make up of the
court, it wouldn't surprise me if the case was upheld.  But then we
will have flurry of cases trying to find the boundaries of regulation.  

Not really my issue either, and I have not followed the cases.

[FairfieldLife] Spiritually Hot in FF, 10th Annual Viewing of Pride & Prejudice

[dhamiltony2k5]

FW:Marathon viewing, on Super Bowl Sunday.

Glide back into a time where the technology of manners
ruled the day.

>> "Oh, Mr. Collins!"

Today was the day!  Tea and high culture.  << Again we will start the 
viewing at noon sharp.  Plan to come a little early to get settled.  
This is a potluck tea, so plan to bring some savory or sweet things 
to share.  We will break for tea at about 3 pm.  As of last count, 
there will be about 20 of us!!  Bring any special 'nesting' materials 
you would like.  We have lots of back jacks, too.
 
Anticipating the favor of your presence!
 
Your humble servants, etc,  >>


You missed it?



>> Hello P & P'ers.
>>
>> Yes, the weekend is upon us.  The 1995 version of A & E's  Pride 
and
>> Prejudice will be viewed in its entirety on Sunday, February 3 (aka
>> Super Bowl Sunday).   

>> We have 2 sofas,  many chairs and back jacks.  if you would
>> like a particular seat for yourself, please bring it with you!  It
>> looks like it will be a sunny day, so the house will be toasty 
warm,
>> too!  Come for any or all of this viewing.   Will we take a proper
>> break and have tea at about 3pm.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Achievements Brochure

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Maharishi's achievement:
> 
> Leading the world in gold ink consumption.

And force you to unstress. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > snip


> 
> Unlike the USA, Switzerland has tended to stay the hell out of other
> countries politically and militarily.
>
  That is a good point and, America would do well to see the connection.
   However, I doubt that was the deciding factor in  Hitler's plan to
take over everything.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Achievements Brochure

[shempmcgurk]

Maharishi's achievement:

Leading the world in gold ink consumption.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
> 
>  
> 
> The graphic below is the first page of a brochure given out 
recently in Vlodrop which summarizes Maharishi's Achievements over 
the past 50 years. �The booklet gives yearly encapsulations up 
until about 2005 and then very rich and detailed summaries for the 
past two years. �The entire booklet can be accessed and downloaded 
at the Global Good News site, along�with a lot of other wonderful 
descriptive materials, including full transcripts of all Maharishi's 
recent historic talks. �Please go to the site and feast on the 
delights:
> 
> HYPERLINK "http://maharishi-
programmes.globalgoodnews.com/achievements/Maharishi.html"http://mahar
ishi-programmes.globalgoodnews.com/achievements/Maharishi.html
> 
>  
> 
> Jai Guru Dev
> 
> Dick
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" 
> mainstream20016 wrote:
> >
> > David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO activities 
> >since the Berlin Raja 
> > fiasco last Fall.   
> 
> Dear David;
> >David Lynch, are you out there ?  Thank you for >your dedication 
to 
> > students through your leadership in funding teaching TM  widely 
to 
> >students.  The simple 
> > instruction of TM is a universally good thing.  
> > 
> > Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization?   
TM's 
> >simplicity and 
> > universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 
2008.  
> Association with the 
>  current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to 
> the larger world. The 
> inevitable partisan orientation  of religious organizations makes 
> >the wide-scale teaching 
> > of TM highly unlikely as long as it is associated with the 
current 
> overtly religious TMO. 
> > 
> > The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of 
> TM.  There are tens of 
> > thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their 
> coming retirement years 
> > to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple 
> TM am pm, with an 
> > occasional  residence course... no products no 
> yagyas..etc.  What do you think ?
> > 
> > 
> 
> Good observation Mainstream.  Separation along secular/non-secular 
TM 
> lines has already happened. Most of the TMmovement has already 
> stepped away. That is past-tense.  
> 
> Proly too early for coalescence of a secular side from inside while 
> Maharishi is still alive unless he initiates it.  Seems the old 
> rascal is not, going instead ahead installing a discipline in his 
own 
> way.  There will be an organizational free-er hand to re-state it 
> once he is gone.  There is a practicality in that.  
> 
> The secular teaching of the universal parts has already gone on 
> filling the need of its own, independent of brand or the liability 
of 
> association with the nuttiness of the TMorganization or its moral 
> shortcomings of finances or behaviors.
> 
> Do a google search for 'centering prayer meditation'.  Lot of that 
> has come out of TM, from former TM teachers and practitioners.  
That 
> is history.  The TM branding has become its own liability now 
making 
> it irrelevant, as you say. Sort of like in a same category as 
> Scientology. 





I don't know much about Scientology but from what I do know, I 
wouldn't put TM in the same category only because Scientology for all 
their controversy seems to be successful despite itself.

Can't say the same for the TMO which has been on a downward spiral 
since blowing its incredible success up to 1977 by coming out with 
the Flying Technique in the manner that it did (a great, great 
technique but publicized by MMY and the TMO in a completely immoral 
and deceitful manner).

Although I agree with everything else in your post, I would put the 
current TMO not in the same category as Scientology but, rather, the 
same category as Yogananda's organisation.  In their day, they were 
the TM of the moment (the way TM was in the '70s), so by the time TM 
came along the Self-Realization Fellowship folks were just a few 
little old ladies sitting around sipping tea.

Well, that's what we've become now: irrelevant little old ladies and 
wimpy men sitting around telling ourselves how wonderful TM and MMY 
is and the only ones listening to us is ourselves.

Sad.




 
> 
> Two recent FFL posts with links come to mind as examples of how it 
> has gone:
> 
>  http://www.thequietpath.org/#
> 
> http://www.introtomeditation.com/schedule.html
> 
> 
> David Lynch is quite a utopian living in the world and could 
possibly 
> see meditation secularized on merit.  Some of them inside probably 
do 
> think about it.  I know they do.  It takes quite a lot of courage 
> though to go outside of the mainstream 'devotion' patterns of 
inside 
> TMmovement when you've been there so close for so long.
> 
> Good letter though.  I hope you'll get a response from him.  I'm 
> certain it would be deeply thoughtful in the way that he has been.
> 
> Jai Guru Dev,
> 
> -Doug in FF
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> David Lynch has been conspicuously unmanifest at TMO activities 
since the Berlin Raja 
> fiasco last Fall.   David Lynch, are you out there ?  Thank you for 
your dedication to 
> students through your leadership in funding teaching TM  widely to 
students.  The simple 
> instruction of TM is a universally good thing.  
> 
> Might you direct a new secular TM instruction organization?   TM's 
simplicity and 
> universality are compromised by the overtly religious TMO of 2008.  
Association with the 
> current religious TMO makes the TM technique vastly irrelevant to 
the larger world. The 
> inevitable partisan orientation  of religious organizations makes 
the wide-scale teaching 
> of TM highly unlikely as long as it is associated with the current 
overtly religious TMO. 
> 
> The timing is right for a return to the secular presentation of 
TM.  There are tens of 
> thousands of TM teachers worldwide who might re-dedicate their 
coming retirement years 
> to teaching secular TM again, as it was taught until 1975. Simple 
TM am pm, with an 
> occasional  residence course... no products no 
yagyas..etc.  What do you think ? 





What a great idea!





   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for Shemp

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Shemp,
> 
>  
> 
> Would you please give me the main talking points about why you feel 
Bill
> Clinton was really a Republican or Conservative or whatever? I want 
to send
> them to a Hillary supporter who is leveling that charge at Obama.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.




1) During his campaign for president in '92, then-Governor of 
Arkansas Bill Clinton ran back to Arkansas to put to death a retarded 
black man on death row.  Not only did he not commute the sentence to 
a life sentence, he went out of his way to go back to Arkansas to 
oversee the death sentence.

2) Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act.

3) Clinton signed the Welfare Reform Act.

4) Clinton pushed for and supported (along with ex-presidents Reagan, 
Bush I, and Ford) for NAFTA.  Indeed, he assigned his Vice-President, 
Al Gore, to head the fight to have NAFTA become law, culminating in 
Gore's historic debate with Ross Perot on Larry King.

5) Clinton balanced the budget.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> snip
> > > > > 
> > > > > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a
> > free 
> > > > > State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall
> not be 
> > > > > infringed."
> > > > > 
> > > > > 'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the 
> > > > > Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable 
> > > > > inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and
> > fettered 
> > > > > by the laws of the new republic.  It was assumed that eventually
> > any 
> > > > > government will go bad and the ability to resist your own
> > government 
> > > > > (gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the
last 
> > > > > resorts to Tyranny.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > There's absolutely *ZERO* possibility of any 'militia' being
capable
> > > > of successfully resisting the weaponry and manpower of the US
> > military.
> > > >++ the military is sworn to uphold the constitution and, obviously,
> > > the government hasn't been.
> > 
> > 
> > Then why do you need a 'militia' if you trust the US Military to
> > "uphold the constitution?" And how do you expect a 'militia' to stand
> > up the the US Military if it doesn't?
> snip
> > 
> 
> > Get realistic. Without the US Military, the US would have been no
> > match for the Japanese military.
> > 
>I don't know if the Japaneese or German war machine was larger but
> the German takeover in Europe bypassed Switzerland which is a
> relatively small country where I believe, at the time, it was
> mandatory that all citizens be armed.
> It seems to be a positive factor as they haven't had any sign of a
> war in their country since before America was discovered.


Unlike the USA, Switzerland has tended to stay the hell out of other
countries politically and militarily.

[FairfieldLife] secular organization to teach TM is spiritual suicide

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Judy wrote:
> > For the record, while there are three references
> > to "angels," there is only one to "gods," plural.
> > All the rest are to "God," singular, capitalized,
> > and many of these are in phrases such as "God
> > consciousness" and "God realization"--i.e.,
> > enlightenment.
> >
> So, it has been established that Maharishi doesn't actually
> talk about the "gods" in SBAL, except in one single instance
> refering to "gods," plural. Maharishi doesn't actualy name 
> any of the "gods" and he doesn't seem to talk much about any 
> "angels" either. Would there be any angels in Hinduism to
> talk about, in any case? But I wonder why Maharishi didn't
> mention the yakshis or the asparsas in SBAL. Which just goes
> to prove that, contrary to what Edg implied, Maharishi
> didn't talk much about religion, gods, angels or demons when
> he composed SBAL.

Bingo !
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ruth wrote:
> > It isn't like people are going to lose their will 
> > to work if they get health care paid for by tax 
> > dollars.
> >
> They might if they don't need any health care or if 
> they are forced to buy government health care when they
> don't need it. Why should young people be forced to pay 
> for the health care of older people? It doesn't make
> any sense. It's a crazy ponzi scheme just like Social
> Security.
> 
> "There is an analogy between the compulsory aspects of 
> the candidates' health care proposals and Social Security. 
> A young man or woman would be crazy to participate in the 
> Social Security system if he or she had any choice. If 
> anyone saved 12.4% of his earnings over a lifetime, he 
> would not only have far more money in retirement than 
> Social Security can provide, it would, equally important, 
> be his money, to invest and dispose of as he sees fit. 
> But the government needs young people's money to support 
> their grandparents' retirements, so Social Security is 
> forced upon them. The same thing, in essence, will happen 
> with health care if any comprehensive "reform" plan is 
> adopted."
> 
snip
   Hard to know what to think about the SS figures- it looks like a
chain letter really but some of the figures are curious.
When I started working, I was making a little over 100 a
week(quite a while back) now, on SS I receive bout 250 a week but the
money has lost so much value that it is the equivalent of nearer 25 so
is it coming out even?
   5.00 used to more than fill anyones gas tank where  now 50.00 will
hardly do it- money has really depreciated.

[FairfieldLife] Re: If Obama gets the nod ---- (Ann Coulter: I'll campa...

[Richard J. Williams]

Judy wrote:
> Obama just doesn't have a clue.
>
"Barack Obama claims he's putting together a 
coalition more diverse than any we've seen for 
a long time. His close association with an 
anti-Semitic pastor and his use of at least 
one virulently anti-Israeli adviser suggest 
that, at root, his coaltion isn't as diverse 
as it might be."

Read more:

'Soft Power'
Posted by Paul Mirengoff:
Powerline, February 2, 2008
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/02/019701.php

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[Richard J. Williams]

Ruth wrote:
> It isn't like people are going to lose their will 
> to work if they get health care paid for by tax 
> dollars.
>
They might if they don't need any health care or if 
they are forced to buy government health care when they
don't need it. Why should young people be forced to pay 
for the health care of older people? It doesn't make
any sense. It's a crazy ponzi scheme just like Social
Security.

"There is an analogy between the compulsory aspects of 
the candidates' health care proposals and Social Security. 
A young man or woman would be crazy to participate in the 
Social Security system if he or she had any choice. If 
anyone saved 12.4% of his earnings over a lifetime, he 
would not only have far more money in retirement than 
Social Security can provide, it would, equally important, 
be his money, to invest and dispose of as he sees fit. 
But the government needs young people's money to support 
their grandparents' retirements, so Social Security is 
forced upon them. The same thing, in essence, will happen 
with health care if any comprehensive "reform" plan is 
adopted."

Read more:

'Forcing Young People Into the System'
Posted by John Hinderaker:
Powerline, February 3, 2008 
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/02/019711.php

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

[bob_brigante]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record, Americans
> performed the Berlin Air Lift for free.
> 
> 

**

The Americans didn't give a damn about the Krauts, who they burned, 
men, women and children by the hundreds of thousands in the pointless 
firebombing of German cities in WWII. The Berlin Air Lift was not a 
humanitarian gesture, but an attempt to keep the Russkis from taking 
over more of Germany as their exclusive military outpost (rather than 
the Americans keeping their many bases in Germany). 
http://tinyurl.com/2d4hy6

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There's absolutely *ZERO* possibility of any 'militia' being 
> capable of successfully resisting the weaponry and manpower 
> of the US military.

Well, the Iraquis have been doing a bang-up job
of pretending otherwise...

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
snip
> > > > 
> > > > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a
> free 
> > > > State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall
not be 
> > > > infringed."
> > > > 
> > > > 'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the 
> > > > Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable 
> > > > inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and
> fettered 
> > > > by the laws of the new republic.  It was assumed that eventually
> any 
> > > > government will go bad and the ability to resist your own
> government 
> > > > (gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the last 
> > > > resorts to Tyranny.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > There's absolutely *ZERO* possibility of any 'militia' being capable
> > > of successfully resisting the weaponry and manpower of the US
> military.
> > >++ the military is sworn to uphold the constitution and, obviously,
> > the government hasn't been.
> 
> 
> Then why do you need a 'militia' if you trust the US Military to
> "uphold the constitution?" And how do you expect a 'militia' to stand
> up the the US Military if it doesn't?
snip
> 

> Get realistic. Without the US Military, the US would have been no
> match for the Japanese military.
> 
   I don't know if the Japaneese or German war machine was larger but
the German takeover in Europe bypassed Switzerland which is a
relatively small country where I believe, at the time, it was
mandatory that all citizens be armed.
It seems to be a positive factor as they haven't had any sign of a
war in their country since before America was discovered.

[FairfieldLife] MEDITATION TIME WITH GEORGE HARRISON

[Vaj]

MEDITATION TIME WITH GEORGE HARRISON

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgv-g0p7ujI

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ruth, excellent response and post.  I disagree only with your 2d 
> > > Amend. analysis.  Gun ownership by the individual is fundamental to 
> > > this country; in the last few years many constitutional experts
have 
> > > examined the 2d Amend. and construed it to guarantee rights to the 
> > > individual, rather than the government militia.  In my read that's 
> > > exactly what it states.  
> > > 
> > > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a
free 
> > > State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be 
> > > infringed."
> > > 
> > > 'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the 
> > > Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable 
> > > inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and
fettered 
> > > by the laws of the new republic.  It was assumed that eventually
any 
> > > government will go bad and the ability to resist your own
government 
> > > (gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the last 
> > > resorts to Tyranny.
> > 
> > 
> > There's absolutely *ZERO* possibility of any 'militia' being capable
> > of successfully resisting the weaponry and manpower of the US
military.
> >++ the military is sworn to uphold the constitution and, obviously,
> the government hasn't been.


Then why do you need a 'militia' if you trust the US Military to
"uphold the constitution?" And how do you expect a 'militia' to stand
up the the US Military if it doesn't?



> Also, think Blackhawk down or Afgans knocking off choppers with
> small arms.
> In the forties, Japan observed that it would a disaster to attack
> the US mainland where most of the citizens were armed- that being one
> of the reasons for being armed in the first place.



Get realistic. Without the US Military, the US would have been no
match for the Japanese military.




> > > The fact that it sits uneasily with many modern sensibilities 
> > > doesn't mean it doesn't say what it says.  Though that's just the 
> > > way I see, and there is a lot of disagreement continuing.  I think 
> > > the Supremes have a  2d Amend. case in this term; I haven't been 
> > > following it.
> > > 
> > > Marek


> >++ the DC gun ban was struck down by a local court and is now on
> appeal however, seeing the serious implications of a ruling either
> way, they might just make a ruling only to apply in DC.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[Richard J. Williams]

Judy wrote:
> For the record, while there are three references
> to "angels," there is only one to "gods," plural.
> All the rest are to "God," singular, capitalized,
> and many of these are in phrases such as "God
> consciousness" and "God realization"--i.e.,
> enlightenment.
>
So, it has been established that Maharishi doesn't actually
talk about the "gods" in SBAL, except in one single instance
refering to "gods," plural. Maharishi doesn't actualy name 
any of the "gods" and he doesn't seem to talk much about any 
"angels" either. Would there be any angels in Hinduism to
talk about, in any case? But I wonder why Maharishi didn't
mention the yakshis or the asparsas in SBAL. Which just goes
to prove that, contrary to what Edg implied, Maharishi
didn't talk much about religion, gods, angels or demons when
he composed SBAL.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation Centre

[Rick Archer]

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 1:57 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation
Centre

 


HYPERLINK
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"http://people.tribe.net/playagirl/blog/9a8f7c95-72f8-4f8e-9c27-5c5564f63f2b

You know what Nabby? I think we might be able to share some hater-aid
with you over this guy. I'll bet he's cutting into Ravi's business. 
That name sounds so familiar. One of us must know this guy. 

I remember him vaguely. I think he and his wife Kathy used to be the
national leaders of the TMO in Australia.


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[FairfieldLife] 'Bill Clinton Finds His Voice, Today'

[Robert]

Nice sermon Bill gave at church this morning...
  Very humble, gracious and charming.
  He said that he was torn between his dream,
  Of voting for a black man, or a woman...
  But he of course thought, Hillary is the best.
  He said that if he or Hillary died today,
  That both of them feel they would have left this world,
  With having accomplished a lot.
  He said that he is not against anybody.
  Bill seems to still have the touch,
  When he's less aggressive, and more from the heart.
  He actually had me believing him.
   
   

   
-
Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[Nelson]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Ruth, excellent response and post.  I disagree only with your 2d 
> > Amend. analysis.  Gun ownership by the individual is fundamental to 
> > this country; in the last few years many constitutional experts have 
> > examined the 2d Amend. and construed it to guarantee rights to the 
> > individual, rather than the government militia.  In my read that's 
> > exactly what it states.  
> > 
> > "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free 
> > State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be 
> > infringed."
> > 
> > 'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the 
> > Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable 
> > inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and fettered 
> > by the laws of the new republic.  It was assumed that eventually any 
> > government will go bad and the ability to resist your own government 
> > (gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the last 
> > resorts to Tyranny.
> 
> 
> There's absolutely *ZERO* possibility of any 'militia' being capable
> of successfully resisting the weaponry and manpower of the US military.
>++ the military is sworn to uphold the constitution and, obviously,
the government hasn't been.
Also, think Blackhawk down or Afgans knocking off choppers with
small arms.
In the forties, Japan observed that it would a disaster to attack
the US mainland where most of the citizens were armed- that being one
of the reasons for being armed in the first place.
> 
> 
> > 
> > The fact that it sits uneasily with many modern sensibilities 
> > doesn't mean it doesn't say what it says.  Though that's just the 
> > way I see, and there is a lot of disagreement continuing.  I think 
> > the Supremes have a  2d Amend. case in this term; I haven't been 
> > following it.
> > 
> > Marek
>++ the DC gun ban was struck down by a local court and is now on
appeal however, seeing the serious implications of a ruling either
way, they might just make a ruling only to apply in DC.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Internal TV tuner card

[Bhairitu]

Rick Archer wrote:
> Has anyone had any experience with adding an internal TV tuner card to their
> PC, and can they recommend a brand?
>
>
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> 1:50 PM
I use the Fusion 5 Gold card from DVICO (now discontinued because they 
have newer models) which works well.  The only thing I don't like about 
it is that it doesn't save the files as regular transport streams (ts) 
but instead a stream that requires conversion since they don't play 
readily on my networked player.
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/eng/
I ordered mine through Digital Connection:
http://www.digitalconnection.com/
You can also look on the AVSForum's home theater PC section for other 
recommendations or experiences since there are a number of companies 
that make cards:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=26/




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation Centre

[curtisdeltablues]

http://people.tribe.net/playagirl/blog/9a8f7c95-72f8-4f8e-9c27-5c5564f63f2b

You know what Nabby?  I think we might be able to share some hater-aid
with you over this guy. I'll bet he's cutting into Ravi's business. 
That name sounds so familiar.  One of us must know this guy. 


Meditation is the new MDMA, without the side effects.

"For thirty-five years, the delightful Thom Knoles has traveled the
world, initiating people into the sacred practice of meditation. He
spends most of his time in India, Australia, and the United States.
Thom has been an adviser to Presidents, run seminars with Deepak
Chopra (and others) and is a consultant to a select group of billionaires.
Thom is arguably the most knowledgeable meditation teacher on the
planet, having taught over ten thousand people from all walks of life.
The ancient wisdom of the Vedas (Indian system for attaining
enlightenment) and the complexities of modern day science are combined
and communicated by Thom in a fun and easy to understand manner
On the theme of psychology, physics and quantum-mechanics, Thom gives
mind altering answers to virtually every question; put simply, "the
guy's a genius". "




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> >  
> > > Trying to demonize Americans as uniquely interested in the means 
> of
> > > survival in this world is right out of the 60's hippie era 
> > nonsense.   
> > > 
> > > But I could be wrong so what professional services are you 
> offering
> > > for free Nabby, unlike those money grubbing Americans.
> > > 
> > > The funny thing is that your real beef with the guy is that he is
> > > taking money out of MMY's coffers isn't it?  It really is about 
> the
> > > money in the end, and he isn't American.
> > 
> > Maharishi has no pockets.
> > The real beef is not about money but honesty.
> > 
> > Thom Knoles, "Guru": Born of american parents. Course 
> fee "Mastering 
> > the Siddhis: 1000.- USD. Visa and Mastercard accepted.
> 
> Actually it is taught in 6 "instalments", with a total of USD 6000.-
> 
> > 
> > Others seems to be mainly aussies.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation Centre

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
>  
> > Trying to demonize Americans as uniquely interested in the means 
of
> > survival in this world is right out of the 60's hippie era 
> nonsense.   
> > 
> > But I could be wrong so what professional services are you 
offering
> > for free Nabby, unlike those money grubbing Americans.
> > 
> > The funny thing is that your real beef with the guy is that he is
> > taking money out of MMY's coffers isn't it?  It really is about 
the
> > money in the end, and he isn't American.
> 
> Maharishi has no pockets.
> The real beef is not about money but honesty.
> 
> Thom Knoles, "Guru": Born of american parents. Course 
fee "Mastering 
> the Siddhis: 1000.- USD. Visa and Mastercard accepted.

Actually it is taught in 6 "instalments", with a total of USD 6000.-

> 
> Others seems to be mainly aussies.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation Centre

[curtisdeltablues]

> Maharishi has no pockets.

somehow that line sounds so much cuter when MMY "works it."  Might
only fly surrounded by giggles.  Lately I've been keeping all my money
in bank accounts cuz it was pulling my pants down so far I was either
gunna have to switch to singing Hip Hop, or get me some farmer
overalls just to keep them up.  I wonder if MMY switched to bank
accounts when the cash started weighing his dhoti down?

> The real beef is not about money but honesty.

Yes I agree, which is why I always found MMY's attempt at that dodge
to be offensive in a "don't try to play me, fool" sorta way.

> 
> Thom Knoles, "Guru": Born of american parents. Course fee "Mastering 
> the Siddhis: 1000.- USD. Visa and Mastercard accepted.
> 
> Others seems to be mainly aussies.
>

I think well see a lot more of this in the near future.  There is a
market for a non Raja governed meditation.  But fortunately we have
MMY's own words to guide us in this matter:

"Competition is for the competent." 

And they're off...Bevan's huffing and puffing, sweating profusely,
Tony trips over his Raja gown and OMG BREAKS his nose!  That's gotta
hurt folks, I guess it's back to the Shnozz Salon for King Tony.

I'll just skip to the end where ANYBODY who offers a simple, natural,
mental technique to relax for a reasonable price, wins easily. The
public is probably not gunna go for the "enlightenment enhanced"
package one more time.  Not unless a whole generation of kids decide
to all drop acid again.  So far Ecstasy just seems to make them want
to dance and make out rather than  follow a guru to the "promised" land.  







--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
>  wrote:
> >
>  
> > Trying to demonize Americans as uniquely interested in the means of
> > survival in this world is right out of the 60's hippie era 
> nonsense.   
> > 
> > But I could be wrong so what professional services are you offering
> > for free Nabby, unlike those money grubbing Americans.
> > 
> > The funny thing is that your real beef with the guy is that he is
> > taking money out of MMY's coffers isn't it?  It really is about the
> > money in the end, and he isn't American.
> 
> Maharishi has no pockets.
> The real beef is not about money but honesty.
> 
> Thom Knoles, "Guru": Born of american parents. Course fee "Mastering 
> the Siddhis: 1000.- USD. Visa and Mastercard accepted.
> 
> Others seems to be mainly aussies.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at London Meditation Centre

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
 
> Trying to demonize Americans as uniquely interested in the means of
> survival in this world is right out of the 60's hippie era 
nonsense.   
> 
> But I could be wrong so what professional services are you offering
> for free Nabby, unlike those money grubbing Americans.
> 
> The funny thing is that your real beef with the guy is that he is
> taking money out of MMY's coffers isn't it?  It really is about the
> money in the end, and he isn't American.

Maharishi has no pockets.
The real beef is not about money but honesty.

Thom Knoles, "Guru": Born of american parents. Course fee "Mastering 
the Siddhis: 1000.- USD. Visa and Mastercard accepted.

Others seems to be mainly aussies.

[FairfieldLife] Internal TV tuner card

[Rick Archer]

Has anyone had any experience with adding an internal TV tuner card to their
PC, and can they recommend a brand?


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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Ruth, excellent response and post.  I disagree only with your 2d 
> Amend. analysis.  Gun ownership by the individual is fundamental to 
> this country; in the last few years many constitutional experts have 
> examined the 2d Amend. and construed it to guarantee rights to the 
> individual, rather than the government militia.  In my read that's 
> exactly what it states.  
> 
> "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free 
> State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be 
> infringed."
> 
> 'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the 
> Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable 
> inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and fettered 
> by the laws of the new republic.  It was assumed that eventually any 
> government will go bad and the ability to resist your own government 
> (gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the last 
> resorts to Tyranny.


There's absolutely *ZERO* possibility of any 'militia' being capable
of successfully resisting the weaponry and manpower of the US military.



> 
> The fact that it sits uneasily with many modern sensibilities 
> doesn't mean it doesn't say what it says.  Though that's just the 
> way I see, and there is a lot of disagreement continuing.  I think 
> the Supremes have a  2d Amend. case in this term; I haven't been 
> following it.
> 
> Marek

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Alex Stanley
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 12:44 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

 

--- In HYPERLINK
"mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick
Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record,
> Americans performed the Berlin Air Lift for free.

I'm quite certain that Nabby is actually Norwegian.

Are you getting that from his IP number? Care to solve the mystery for us,
Nabsters?


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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[Marek Reavis]

Ruth, excellent response and post.  I disagree only with your 2d 
Amend. analysis.  Gun ownership by the individual is fundamental to 
this country; in the last few years many constitutional experts have 
examined the 2d Amend. and construed it to guarantee rights to the 
individual, rather than the government militia.  In my read that's 
exactly what it states.  

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free 
State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be 
infringed."

'Government' in the Constitution (and particularly in the 
Declaration of Independence) is to be feared for its inevitable 
inclination to Tyranny, and necessarily then, harnessed and fettered 
by the laws of the new republic.  It was assumed that eventually any 
government will go bad and the ability to resist your own government 
(gone bad) by force of arms was understood to be one of the last 
resorts to Tyranny.

The fact that it sits uneasily with many modern sensibilities 
doesn't mean it doesn't say what it says.  Though that's just the 
way I see, and there is a lot of disagreement continuing.  I think 
the Supremes have a  2d Amend. case in this term; I haven't been 
following it.

Marek

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > >
> 
> > >
> > > Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and
> > > redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth
> > > and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru
> > > attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and
> > > the attempts to restrict gun ownership.
> >
> 
> 
> Generally, when I hear words like "socialist" and "agenda" I tune 
out. 
> But . . .
> 
> Higher taxes:  This doesn't have anything to do with your party
> affiliation.  If you spend a lot, generally taxes have to go up.  
The
> republicans have been spending a lot of late, but have not touched 
the
> taxes.  If they go up under the dems, it could be because we have 
to pay
> for the prior republican spending.
> 
> Redistribution of wealth.  This occurs all the time.  We have a 
social
> contract.  We are in this country together.  The constitution gives
> power to the government to tax in order to provide for the general
> welfare.  We tax for roads and other infrastructure.  We tax for
> defense.  We tax for education.  We tax for social security. What 
makes
> universal health care any different?  We provide it through 
Medicare to
> the elderly.  Why not everyone?  It isn't like people are going to 
lose
> their will to work if they get health care paid for by tax dollars.
> 
> Democrats attack religious freedom or political speech?  Ha!  Show 
me. 
> Don't forget that the federal government  is not allowed to 
support a
> particular religion or any religion.
> 
> Gun ownership regulation is not supported by all democrats, that is
> probably why we haven't got very far on gun control.  However, you
> reading of the second amendment is contrary to its historic
> interpretation and at a minimum it is clear that it is perfectly 
legal
> to put some restrictions on gun ownership.  Though I would agree 
with
> people who say that the second amendment is very awkwardly worded, 
which
> has led to many needless arguments.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record,
> Americans performed the Berlin Air Lift for free.
 
I'm quite certain that Nabby is actually Norwegian.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Edg & SBAL

[Duveyoung]

Nablusoss,

You just went up a notch in my book.

I bow.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> > > 
> > > And, yeah, I called him Knob -- so I cannot brag about being pure 
> in
> > > this regard.
> > > 
> > > Edg
> 
> I'm sorry if I insulted you Edg, got carried away by your anti TM-
> rant. 
> Sorry again.
>

[FairfieldLife] Edg & SBAL

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > And, yeah, I called him Knob -- so I cannot brag about being pure 
in
> > this regard.
> > 
> > Edg

I'm sorry if I insulted you Edg, got carried away by your anti TM-
rant. 
Sorry again.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  nablusoss1008  wrote:
> Since Maitreya will not at first reveal His name and status the 
onus 
> is on each one of us to recognize Him by what He says and does. 
In  
> this way people will be recognising the expression of their  
> aspiration for the future of humanity, rather than simply 
following 
> `The Teacher'.  Share International Magazine, April 2007
> 
> Nab, you know I love ya like a brother, and I find myself 
sympathetic 
> to many of Benjamen Creme's sentiiments, but the above, kinda 
reminds 
> me of the ol, "if the initiators were more pure in their lives, 
the 
> world plan would be further along", or, "the teachers are not 
doing 
> enough to bring about the age of enlightenment" type thing.  Not 
> really resonating with me anymore.

Maitreya will during His first public apperances not be known for 
who He really is, that will come later at what has been called the 
Day of Declaration. 
What Creme is saying here is simply that during this period the 
people will have to descide for themselves regarding wether His 
suggestions are wise or not. Based on what He says, not based on 
wether or not they know that he is a "savior", "The Teacher" or 
Maitreya the Christ himself. Makes sense to me that descisions are 
collectively made from levels of deeper, altruistic aspirations, not 
on the level of following some kind of "leader". 
Very down to earth kind of thinking, very Benjamin Creme and 
Maharishi.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> > >
> 
> > >
> > > Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and
> > > redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth
> > > and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru
> > > attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and
> > > the attempts to restrict gun ownership.
> >
> 
> 
> Generally, when I hear words like "socialist" and "agenda" I tune out. 
> But . . .
> 
> Higher taxes:  This doesn't have anything to do with your party
> affiliation.  If you spend a lot, generally taxes have to go up.  The
> republicans have been spending a lot of late, but have not touched the
> taxes.  If they go up under the dems, it could be because we have to pay
> for the prior republican spending.
> 
> Redistribution of wealth.  This occurs all the time.  We have a social
> contract.  We are in this country together.  The constitution gives
> power to the government to tax in order to provide for the general
> welfare.  We tax for roads and other infrastructure.  We tax for
> defense.  We tax for education.  We tax for social security. What makes
> universal health care any different?  We provide it through Medicare to
> the elderly.  Why not everyone?  It isn't like people are going to lose
> their will to work if they get health care paid for by tax dollars.
> 
> Democrats attack religious freedom or political speech?  Ha!  Show me. 
> Don't forget that the federal government  is not allowed to support a
> particular religion or any religion.
> 
> Gun ownership regulation is not supported by all democrats, that is
> probably why we haven't got very far on gun control.  However, you
> reading of the second amendment is contrary to its historic
> interpretation and at a minimum it is clear that it is perfectly legal
> to put some restrictions on gun ownership.  Though I would agree with
> people who say that the second amendment is very awkwardly worded, which
> has led to many needless arguments.


Honest, sober, insightful and in my view, accurate commentary.
Refreshing! Thanks for that, 'ruthsimplicity'. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence Demo

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Vaj, thanks for that; what a nice version of a great song.
 
Jerry Garcia Band was one band that did cover versions that I always
liked better than the originals. JGB's version of Dear Prudence is my
fave. I still like the original, though, which is not the case with
Tangled Up in Blue. Dylan's voice makes my flesh crawl, but JGB's
cover of TUIB is teh awesome!
 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > A number of the demos for the White Album were hashed out at  
> > Harrison's Kinfauns estate on his Ampex four-track R to R. The demo 
> of  
> > Dear Prudence has a snip at the end where Lennon tells about 
> Prudence  
> > going bonkers in Rishikesh under the "care" of MMY.
> > 
> > http://www.box.net/shared/j1mette684
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[Duveyoung]

Oops, I meant to say:

> 2012 scenarios et al are certainly not topics that ONLY I have written
> about; 

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Judy,
> 
> Knob merely insinuates, as a personal attack on me, but between the
> lines in Message #162935 he seems openly derisive such that my reports
> about the SBAL must "necessarily" be erroneous or disinformantionally
> skewed.  You know, his typical slander-tool.
> 
> Knob said:  
> 
> "Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg
> himself is quoting from there it must be correct. He could easily have
> thrown in some devils also. And the End of the World and references to
> spiritual vampires for sure. ;-)"
> 
> My immediate comment:
>  
> I would have and have used the word "demons" not "devils;" 
> 
> 2012 scenarios et al are certainly not topics that I have written
> about; and, 
> 
> Yes, I do think I've used the term "spiritual vampires" -- trolls like
> Knob are exactly such.  
> 
> What else to call someone who tries to suck the positive energy out of
> a person by attacking one's character instead of gently supporting
> whatever positivity is present in a post and helping the person focus
> on that aspect?
> 
> Knob, have you ever changed a kid's poopy diaper?  Do you rant at the
> kid for being a stinky problem inconsiderate pooper or rave about his
> excellent healthy action?
> 
> The mistakes I make are many, but attacking a person only makes it
> that much harder to ever obtain harmony in any sphere.  I seldom have
> the courage but turning the other cheek yields enormous profits.
> 
> And, yeah, I called him Knob -- so I cannot brag about being pure in
> this regard.
> 
> Edg
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Okay, this is old school.  Is is the way verifications should be 
> > > > done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error.  
> > > > Let's see what the future posts hold.  Tip of the hat to you, 
> > > > John Manning.
> > > 
> > > Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after
> > > claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be
> > > Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was.
> > > 
> > > He'll pretend he never said anything...
> > > 
> > > This is what a TM TB calls "the truth."
> > 
> > Speaking of "the truth," I'm unable to find anywhere
> > that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase
> > "angels and gods" appears in SBAL.
> > 
> > Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[Duveyoung]

Judy,

Knob merely insinuates, as a personal attack on me, but between the
lines in Message #162935 he seems openly derisive such that my reports
about the SBAL must "necessarily" be erroneous or disinformantionally
skewed.  You know, his typical slander-tool.

Knob said:  

"Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, but since Edg
himself is quoting from there it must be correct. He could easily have
thrown in some devils also. And the End of the World and references to
spiritual vampires for sure. ;-)"

My immediate comment:
 
I would have and have used the word "demons" not "devils;" 

2012 scenarios et al are certainly not topics that I have written
about; and, 

Yes, I do think I've used the term "spiritual vampires" -- trolls like
Knob are exactly such.  

What else to call someone who tries to suck the positive energy out of
a person by attacking one's character instead of gently supporting
whatever positivity is present in a post and helping the person focus
on that aspect?

Knob, have you ever changed a kid's poopy diaper?  Do you rant at the
kid for being a stinky problem inconsiderate pooper or rave about his
excellent healthy action?

The mistakes I make are many, but attacking a person only makes it
that much harder to ever obtain harmony in any sphere.  I seldom have
the courage but turning the other cheek yields enormous profits.

And, yeah, I called him Knob -- so I cannot brag about being pure in
this regard.

Edg


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Okay, this is old school.  Is is the way verifications should be 
> > > done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error.  
> > > Let's see what the future posts hold.  Tip of the hat to you, 
> > > John Manning.
> > 
> > Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after
> > claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be
> > Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was.
> > 
> > He'll pretend he never said anything...
> > 
> > This is what a TM TB calls "the truth."
> 
> Speaking of "the truth," I'm unable to find anywhere
> that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase
> "angels and gods" appears in SBAL.
> 
> Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[lurkernomore20002000]

  "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  Speaking of "the truth," I'm unable to find anywhere that Nabby made
any claims as to whether the phrase "angels and gods" appears in SBAL.

  Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?

He (and a couple others I believe) found it necessary to disparage Edg
for his recollection of angels, and gods, or god in the SBAE implying
that his recollection was faulty, or false.  At least that was the
impression I got.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[curtisdeltablues]

> I'm still not 100% convinced that sandiego is Jim but his latest 
> very interesting posts indicate he is. Unfortunately he is not 
> posting as regularily as before. He probably finds the atmosphere 
> here rather childish.

Yeah that sounds right.  We are all too childish for Jim.  You are
having quite a Sunday aren't ya Nabby?  




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Okay, this is old school.  Is is the way verifications should be 
> > > done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his 
> error.  
> > > Let's see what the future posts hold.  Tip of the hat to you, 
> > > John Manning.
> > 
> > Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after
> > claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be
> > Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was.
> > 
> > He'll pretend he never said anything...
> > 
> > This is what a TM TB calls "the truth."
> 
> My mistake, sorry.
> 
> Contrary to one certain Mr. Barry Wright, or Mr. Right personified, 
> aka the Turq, I have no problem admitting mistakes.
> 
> I'm still not 100% convinced that sandiego is Jim but his latest 
> very interesting posts indicate he is. Unfortunately he is not 
> posting as regularily as before. He probably finds the atmosphere 
> here rather childish.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[lurkernomore20002000]

  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  For the record, while there are three references to "angels," there is
only one to "gods," plural.  All the rest are to "God," singular,
capitalized,  and many of these are in phrases such as "God 
consciousness" and "God realization"--i.e.,  enlightenment.


Close enough for government work

[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master

[lurkernomore20002000]

 nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Since Maitreya will not at first reveal His name and status the onus 
is on each one of us to recognize Him by what He says and does. In  
this way people will be recognising the expression of their  
aspiration for the future of humanity, rather than simply following 
`The Teacher'.  Share International Magazine, April 2007

Nab, you know I love ya like a brother, and I find myself sympathetic 
to many of Benjamen Creme's sentiiments, but the above, kinda reminds 
me of the ol, "if the initiators were more pure in their lives, the 
world plan would be further along", or, "the teachers are not doing 
enough to bring about the age of enlightenment" type thing.  Not 
really resonating with me anymore.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Okay, this is old school.  Is is the way verifications should 
be 
> > > done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his 
error.  
> > > Let's see what the future posts hold.  Tip of the hat to you, 
> > > John Manning.
> > 
> > Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after
> > claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be
> > Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was.
> > 
> > He'll pretend he never said anything...
> > 
> > This is what a TM TB calls "the truth."
> 
> Speaking of "the truth," I'm unable to find anywhere
> that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase
> "angels and gods" appears in SBAL.
> 
> Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?

Actually I made a comment challenging Edg to provide a reference to 
angels&gods knowing he would be unable to. That someone else found 
them is a different thing altogether.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Okay, this is old school.  Is is the way verifications should be 
> > done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his 
error.  
> > Let's see what the future posts hold.  Tip of the hat to you, 
> > John Manning.
> 
> Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after
> claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be
> Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was.
> 
> He'll pretend he never said anything...
> 
> This is what a TM TB calls "the truth."

My mistake, sorry.

Contrary to one certain Mr. Barry Wright, or Mr. Right personified, 
aka the Turq, I have no problem admitting mistakes.

I'm still not 100% convinced that sandiego is Jim but his latest 
very interesting posts indicate he is. Unfortunately he is not 
posting as regularily as before. He probably finds the atmosphere 
here rather childish.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Okay, this is old school.  Is is the way verifications should be 
> > done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error.  
> > Let's see what the future posts hold.  Tip of the hat to you, 
> > John Manning.
> 
> Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after
> claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be
> Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was.
> 
> He'll pretend he never said anything...
> 
> This is what a TM TB calls "the truth."

Speaking of "the truth," I'm unable to find anywhere
that Nabby made any claims as to whether the phrase
"angels and gods" appears in SBAL.

Can you please quote what I seem to have missed?

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Behalf Of Duveyoung
> 
> Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts
> of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it 
> in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow 
> highlighted.
> 
> Found on Amazon.com:

For the record, while there are three references
to "angels," there is only one to "gods," plural.
All the rest are to "God," singular, capitalized,
and many of these are in phrases such as "God
consciousness" and "God realization"--i.e.,
enlightenment.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[ruthsimplicity]

>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >

> >
> > Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and
> > redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth
> > and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru
> > attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and
> > the attempts to restrict gun ownership.
>


Generally, when I hear words like "socialist" and "agenda" I tune out. 
But . . .

Higher taxes:  This doesn't have anything to do with your party
affiliation.  If you spend a lot, generally taxes have to go up.  The
republicans have been spending a lot of late, but have not touched the
taxes.  If they go up under the dems, it could be because we have to pay
for the prior republican spending.

Redistribution of wealth.  This occurs all the time.  We have a social
contract.  We are in this country together.  The constitution gives
power to the government to tax in order to provide for the general
welfare.  We tax for roads and other infrastructure.  We tax for
defense.  We tax for education.  We tax for social security. What makes
universal health care any different?  We provide it through Medicare to
the elderly.  Why not everyone?  It isn't like people are going to lose
their will to work if they get health care paid for by tax dollars.

Democrats attack religious freedom or political speech?  Ha!  Show me. 
Don't forget that the federal government  is not allowed to support a
particular religion or any religion.

Gun ownership regulation is not supported by all democrats, that is
probably why we haven't got very far on gun control.  However, you
reading of the second amendment is contrary to its historic
interpretation and at a minimum it is clear that it is perfectly legal
to put some restrictions on gun ownership.  Though I would agree with
people who say that the second amendment is very awkwardly worded, which
has led to many needless arguments.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > America's choice
> > > by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme
> > >
> > > When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will 
> have
> > > the opportunity to change the course of history.
> > 
> > Haven't hear this expressed anywhere else.  NOT
> > 
> > On their decision
> > > largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. 
If
> > > they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to
> > > fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice 
in
> > > our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the
> > > outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast 
> resources
> > > of their country to create that trust.
> > > The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting 
> programme
> > > of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the
> > > traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of
> > > relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation 
among 
> the
> > > nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make 
> such a
> > > choice?
> > 
> > I thought Mr. Creme already pronounced us past this point.  I 
guess
> > we're getting a second chance.  Or is it a third chance,  or 
maybe 
> a
> > fourth.
> > >
> > > Beleaguered
> > > As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the
> > > beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and 
> hate.
> > > They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and 
> crude
> > > exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace-
> > > loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering 
of
> > > the present administration, and to cast their vote in like 
> fashion.
> > 
> > Well, if you mean that we're going to have a new 
admininstration,  
> I
> > think that's likely, which is likely to have a new approach.  
> Unless of
> > course martial law gets imposed, as many here are certain will 
> happen. 
> > (please don't include me in this.  The Art Bell crowd have 
> predicted
> > this with certainty every election for the past 16 years, at 
least)
> > >
> > > Canker
> > > Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities 
of 
> the
> > > world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our
> > > troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries 
> who
> > > ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and 
> must
> > > awaken to this main source of tension — and terror.
> > > Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful'
> > > countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, 
and
> > > their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own
> > > advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor 
> and
> > > destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of 
> justice is
> > > not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. 
> Terrorism
> > > will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future 
of 
> the
> > > people of Earth.
> > 
> > A familiar theme.  But never under estimate the power of the 
gun.  
> Not
> > as powerful as an idea whose time has come, but in the short 
term, 
> it
> > can be quite persuasive.
> > 
> > > We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while 
the 
> very
> > > future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation 
> with
> > > much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its 
soul's
> > > longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, 
in
> > > harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake 
this
> > > world.
> > > This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of 
men.
> > > Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace.
> > 
> > Sounds like a good time for Maitreya to make his large 
undisputed 
> public
> > appearance.  You know, the appearance which has been promised 
for 
> as
> > long as you've been posting.  The one which will be made "in the 
> very
> > near future", when the "world is ready". 

Q.Is there any specific date for Maitreya's appearance?
A. Most people imagine that world events (and the coming of a World 
Teacher is certainly a world event) take place according to precise 
dates. They imagine that all Hierarchical decisions are designed for 
dates written in stone. This is assuredly not the case. The Masters 
predict certain happenings to take place around a certain time but 
They know that humanity has freewill and therefore has an enormous 
influence on the precise timing of a given event. The Masters work 
in 2,000 year cycles, so for Them really precise timing is not a 
major consideration. No one knows the exact date on which Maitreya 
will take up His open work but everyone can understand that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master

[lurkernomore20002000]

 nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Are you reffering to "The Day of Declaration" when Maitreya will 
present His credidentials ? As we speak He is appearing to people  and
groups around the world on an almost daily basis, without  revealing His
nature. Cosmic timing is not an easy matter to understand. All I know is
that this "near future" (Day of Declaration) means in generation.

Okay.  Fair enough

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the thieves at the London Meditation Centre

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:56 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre
> 
>  
> 
> --- In HYPERLINK
> "mailto:FairfieldLife%
40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > --- In HYPERLINK
> "mailto:FairfieldLife%
40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "guyfawkes91"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > This fellow just wants the fees for himself, 
> > > > thats all there is to it.
> > > What's wrong with that. Every other profession works like 
that. Seems
> > > like a sensible business model to me.
> > 
> > If you are american, like that fellow, I guess it makes perfect 
sense. 
> > Seems like the only thing they really care for are dollars. Pity 
then 
> > that that currency if going down very fast and will be used in 
one 
> > country only very soon.
> >
> 
> Unlike all those other countries who perform professional services 
for
> free? What countries might those be? Certainly not the TM org. 
> 
> I'm pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record, Americans
> performed the Berlin Air Lift for free.

Things have changed in the USA since then. But it was a beautiful 
show of how altruistic the americans can be at their best, if it was 
not just a plot to keep Berlin as a strategic part of the 
USA "zone". Same can be said of the Marshall-plan though I see more 
of a "higher" thinking behind that endeavor.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Okay, this is old school.  Is is the way verifications should be 
> done. Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error.  
> Let's see what the future posts hold.  Tip of the hat to you, 
> John Manning.

Nabby will do exactly the same thing he did after
claiming that sandiego108 couldn't *possibly* be
Jim Flanegin, and then finding out that it was.

He'll pretend he never said anything...

This is what a TM TB calls "the truth."

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > > Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts
> > > of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it
> > > in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow
> highlighted.
> >
> > The Science of Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation -
> > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> >
> > FROM the Paperback edition (1994)
> >
> > 1. on Page 208:
> >
> > "... Had it been only good, one would have been in the world of angels
> > where there is no suffering and where dwells only happiness and joy.
> > In man's life, however, one finds happiness and ..."
> >
> >
> > 2. on Page 233:
> >
> > "... In the radiance of his relative life, the Absolute finds in him
> > an expression of its Being. Angels and gods enjoy his being on earth,
> > and the earth and heavens enjoy the existence of the ..."
> >
> >
> > 3. on Page 254:
> >
> > "... the egg-born, the water-born, the animal kingdom, and rises to
> > the world of angels. Ultimately, on the top level of evolution, is He
> > whose power is unlimited, whose joyfulness is unlimited, whose
> > intelligence and ..."
> >
> >
> > [at Amazon.com]
> >
> > Do a search for "angels" here: http://tinyurl.com/2tewbj
> >
> > Do a search for "God" and you'll get *dozens* of references.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 
> wrote:
> >
> > America's choice
> > by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme
> >
> > When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will 
have
> > the opportunity to change the course of history.
> 
> Haven't hear this expressed anywhere else.  NOT
> 
> On their decision
> > largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. If
> > they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to
> > fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice in
> > our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the
> > outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast 
resources
> > of their country to create that trust.
> > The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting 
programme
> > of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the
> > traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of
> > relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation among 
the
> > nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make 
such a
> > choice?
> 
> I thought Mr. Creme already pronounced us past this point.  I guess
> we're getting a second chance.  Or is it a third chance,  or maybe 
a
> fourth.
> >
> > Beleaguered
> > As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the
> > beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and 
hate.
> > They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and 
crude
> > exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace-
> > loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering of
> > the present administration, and to cast their vote in like 
fashion.
> 
> Well, if you mean that we're going to have a new admininstration,  
I
> think that's likely, which is likely to have a new approach.  
Unless of
> course martial law gets imposed, as many here are certain will 
happen. 
> (please don't include me in this.  The Art Bell crowd have 
predicted
> this with certainty every election for the past 16 years, at least)
> >
> > Canker
> > Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities of 
the
> > world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our
> > troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries 
who
> > ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and 
must
> > awaken to this main source of tension — and terror.
> > Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful'
> > countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, and
> > their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own
> > advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor 
and
> > destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of 
justice is
> > not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. 
Terrorism
> > will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future of 
the
> > people of Earth.
> 
> A familiar theme.  But never under estimate the power of the gun.  
Not
> as powerful as an idea whose time has come, but in the short term, 
it
> can be quite persuasive.
> 
> > We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while the 
very
> > future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation 
with
> > much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its soul's
> > longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, in
> > harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake this
> > world.
> > This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of men.
> > Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace.
> 
> Sounds like a good time for Maitreya to make his large undisputed 
public
> appearance.  You know, the appearance which has been promised for 
as
> long as you've been posting.  The one which will be made "in the 
very
> near future", when the "world is ready"

Are you reffering to "The Day of Declaration" when Maitreya will 
present His credidentials ? As we speak He is appearing to people 
and groups around the world on an almost daily basis, without 
revealing His nature.
Cosmic timing is not an easy matter to understand. All I know is 
that this "near future" (Day of Declaration) means in generation.

Regarding your other comments; this was, as you see below, an 
article prior to the last "election" - which was rigged by the way.

> > Share International Magazine, November 2004
> >
> > http://www.shareintl.org
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[lurkernomore20002000]

Okay, this is old school.  Is is the way verifications should be done. 
Do you think Nab will have the courage to admit his error.  Let's see
what the future posts hold.  Tip of the hat to you, John Manning.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
>
> > Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts
> > of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there. I had it
> > in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow
highlighted.
>
> The Science of Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation -
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
>
> FROM the Paperback edition (1994)
>
> 1. on Page 208:
>
> "... Had it been only good, one would have been in the world of angels
> where there is no suffering and where dwells only happiness and joy.
> In man's life, however, one finds happiness and ..."
>
>
> 2. on Page 233:
>
> "... In the radiance of his relative life, the Absolute finds in him
> an expression of its Being. Angels and gods enjoy his being on earth,
> and the earth and heavens enjoy the existence of the ..."
>
>
> 3. on Page 254:
>
> "... the egg-born, the water-born, the animal kingdom, and rises to
> the world of angels. Ultimately, on the top level of evolution, is He
> whose power is unlimited, whose joyfulness is unlimited, whose
> intelligence and ..."
>
>
> [at Amazon.com]
>
> Do a search for "angels" here: http://tinyurl.com/2tewbj
>
> Do a search for "God" and you'll get *dozens* of references.
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 10:56 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

 

--- In HYPERLINK
"mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In HYPERLINK
"mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"guyfawkes91"  
> wrote:
> >
> > > This fellow just wants the fees for himself, 
> > > thats all there is to it.
> > What's wrong with that. Every other profession works like that. Seems
> > like a sensible business model to me.
> 
> If you are american, like that fellow, I guess it makes perfect sense. 
> Seems like the only thing they really care for are dollars. Pity then 
> that that currency if going down very fast and will be used in one 
> country only very soon.
>

Unlike all those other countries who perform professional services for
free? What countries might those be? Certainly not the TM org. 

I’m pretty sure Nabby is German, and just for the record, Americans
performed the Berlin Air Lift for free.


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[FairfieldLife] Angels in SBAL

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> 
> > Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the 
concepts
> > of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there.  I 
had it
> > in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow 
highlighted.
> 
> The Science of Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation -
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> 
> FROM the Paperback edition  (1994) 
> 
> 1.on Page 208:
> 
> "... Had it been only good, one would have been in the world of 
angels
> where there is no suffering and where dwells only happiness and 
joy.
> In man's life, however, one finds happiness and ..."
> 
> 
> 2.on Page 233:
> 
> "... In the radiance of his relative life, the Absolute finds in 
him
> an expression of its Being. Angels and gods enjoy his being on 
earth,
> and the earth and heavens enjoy the existence of the ..."
> 
> 
> 3.on Page 254:
> 
> "... the egg-born, the water-born, the animal kingdom, and rises to
> the world of angels. Ultimately, on the top level of evolution, is 
He
> whose power is unlimited, whose joyfulness is unlimited, whose
> intelligence and ..."

Beautiful !

[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Why doesn't he just say, "Vote Democratic"?

Same reason Maharishi doesn't use short sentences
when he's telling *his* followers what to think 
and what to do. If, like them, you're paying big 
bucks to have someone run your life, you want it 
done in as many words as possible.  :-)

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  
> wrote:
> >
> > America's choice
> > by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme 
> > 
> > When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will have 
> > the opportunity to change the course of history. On their decision 
> > largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. If 
> > they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to 
> > fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice in 
> > our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the 
> > outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast resources 
> > of their country to create that trust.
> > The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting 
> programme 
> > of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the 
> > traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of 
> > relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation among the 
> > nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make such 
> a 
> > choice? 
> > 
> > Beleaguered 
> > As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the 
> > beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and hate. 
> > They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and 
> crude 
> > exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace-
> > loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering of 
> > the present administration, and to cast their vote in like fashion. 
> > 
> > Canker 
> > Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities of 
> the 
> > world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our 
> > troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries who 
> > ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and must 
> > awaken to this main source of tension — and terror.
> > Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful' 
> > countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, and 
> > their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own 
> > advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor and 
> > destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of justice 
> is 
> > not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. Terrorism 
> > will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future of 
> the 
> > people of Earth.
> > We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while the 
> very 
> > future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation with 
> > much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its soul's 
> > longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, in 
> > harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake this 
> > world.
> > This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of men. 
> > Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace.
> > 
> > Share International Magazine, November 2004
> > 
> > http://www.shareintl.org
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> America's choice
> by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme
>
> When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will have
> the opportunity to change the course of history.

Haven't hear this expressed anywhere else.  NOT

On their decision
> largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. If
> they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to
> fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice in
> our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the
> outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast resources
> of their country to create that trust.
> The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting programme
> of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the
> traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of
> relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation among the
> nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make such a
> choice?

I thought Mr. Creme already pronounced us past this point.  I guess
we're getting a second chance.  Or is it a third chance,  or maybe a
fourth.
>
> Beleaguered
> As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the
> beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and hate.
> They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and crude
> exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace-
> loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering of
> the present administration, and to cast their vote in like fashion.

Well, if you mean that we're going to have a new admininstration,  I
think that's likely, which is likely to have a new approach.  Unless of
course martial law gets imposed, as many here are certain will happen. 
(please don't include me in this.  The Art Bell crowd have predicted
this with certainty every election for the past 16 years, at least)
>
> Canker
> Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities of the
> world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our
> troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries who
> ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and must
> awaken to this main source of tension — and terror.
> Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful'
> countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, and
> their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own
> advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor and
> destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of justice is
> not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. Terrorism
> will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future of the
> people of Earth.

A familiar theme.  But never under estimate the power of the gun.  Not
as powerful as an idea whose time has come, but in the short term, it
can be quite persuasive.

> We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while the very
> future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation with
> much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its soul's
> longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, in
> harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake this
> world.
> This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of men.
> Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace.

Sounds like a good time for Maitreya to make his large undisputed public
appearance.  You know, the appearance which has been promised for as
long as you've been posting.  The one which will be made "in the very
near future", when the "world is ready"
>
> Share International Magazine, November 2004
>
> http://www.shareintl.org
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts
> of angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there.  I had it
> in my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted.

The Science of Being and Art of Living: Transcendental Meditation -
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

FROM the Paperback edition  (1994) 

1.  on Page 208:

"... Had it been only good, one would have been in the world of angels
where there is no suffering and where dwells only happiness and joy.
In man's life, however, one finds happiness and ..."


2.  on Page 233:

"... In the radiance of his relative life, the Absolute finds in him
an expression of its Being. Angels and gods enjoy his being on earth,
and the earth and heavens enjoy the existence of the ..."


3.  on Page 254:

"... the egg-born, the water-born, the animal kingdom, and rises to
the world of angels. Ultimately, on the top level of evolution, is He
whose power is unlimited, whose joyfulness is unlimited, whose
intelligence and ..."


[at Amazon.com]

Do a search for "angels" here: http://tinyurl.com/2tewbj

Do a search for "God" and you'll get *dozens* of references.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Americas choice, by the Master

[authfriend]

Why doesn't he just say, "Vote Democratic"?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> America's choice
> by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme 
> 
> When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will have 
> the opportunity to change the course of history. On their decision 
> largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. If 
> they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to 
> fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice in 
> our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the 
> outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast resources 
> of their country to create that trust.
> The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting 
programme 
> of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the 
> traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of 
> relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation among the 
> nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make such 
a 
> choice? 
> 
> Beleaguered 
> As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the 
> beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and hate. 
> They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and 
crude 
> exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace-
> loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering of 
> the present administration, and to cast their vote in like fashion. 
> 
> Canker 
> Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities of 
the 
> world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our 
> troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries who 
> ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and must 
> awaken to this main source of tension — and terror.
> Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful' 
> countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, and 
> their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own 
> advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor and 
> destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of justice 
is 
> not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. Terrorism 
> will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future of 
the 
> people of Earth.
> We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while the 
very 
> future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation with 
> much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its soul's 
> longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, in 
> harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake this 
> world.
> This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of men. 
> Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace.
> 
> Share International Magazine, November 2004
> 
> http://www.shareintl.org
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91"  
> wrote:
> >
> > > This fellow just wants the fees for himself, 
> > > thats all there is to it.
> > What's wrong with that. Every other profession works like that. Seems
> > like a sensible business model to me.
> 
> If you are american, like that fellow, I guess it makes perfect sense. 
> Seems like the only thing they really care for are dollars. Pity then 
> that that currency if going down very fast and will be used in one 
> country only very soon.
>

Unlike all those other countries who perform professional services for
free?  What countries might those be?  Certainly not the TM org. 

Trying to demonize Americans as uniquely interested in the means of
survival in this world is right out of the 60's hippie era nonsense.   

But I could be wrong so what professional services are you offering
for free Nabby, unlike those money grubbing Americans.

The funny thing is that your real beef with the guy is that he is
taking money out of MMY's coffers isn't it?  It really is about the
money in the end, and he isn't American. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence Demo

[sandiego108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > A number of the demos for the White Album were hashed out at  
> > Harrison's Kinfauns estate on his Ampex four-track R to R. The 
demo of  
> > Dear Prudence has a snip at the end where Lennon tells about 
Prudence  
> > going bonkers in Rishikesh under the "care" of MMY.
> > 
> > http://www.box.net/shared/j1mette684
> >
> 
> 
> Excellent!  John is so sarcastic.
>
and John's dead now -- I'm thinking obvious conspiracy by Maharishi 
and the TMO -- don'cha SEE it!?

[FairfieldLife] Americas choice, by the Master

[nablusoss1008]

America's choice
by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme 

When American citizens go to the polls in November, they will have 
the opportunity to change the course of history. On their decision 
largely rests the style and structure of the immediate future. If 
they choose wisely, they will elect a President committed to 
fostering the well-being of all who long for peace and justice in 
our troubled world; who realize that peace and justice are the 
outcome of trust, and who are prepared to share the vast resources 
of their country to create that trust.
The alternative is too terrible to contemplate: a mounting programme 
of war and terror and counter-terror; a tightening grip on the 
traditional freedoms of the American people; a breakdown of 
relations with other countries; and a `pariah' reputation among the 
nations for the proud United States. Who would knowingly make such a 
choice? 

Beleaguered 
As the day of destiny approaches, the minds of many turn to the 
beleaguered people of America whom, now, so many despise and hate. 
They pray for the deliverance of its people from the cruel and crude 
exponents of illegal, usurped power. They call for every peace-
loving American to raise their voice against the war-mongering of 
the present administration, and to cast their vote in like fashion. 

Canker 
Of course, America is not alone at fault for the inequalities of the 
world, the basic canker in our midst, the source of all our 
troubles. It shares the blame with all the developed countries who 
ride roughshod and cavalier over the poor and struggling, and must 
awaken to this main source of tension — and terror.
Therein lies the fault of the Western world: these `successful' 
countries owe their wealth and dominance largely to history, and 
their ability to manipulate the world's economy to their own 
advantage through aggressive `market forces'. The world's poor and 
destitute now demand their share. If this simple right of justice is 
not addressed and remedied, the world will know no peace. Terrorism 
will fester and grow into war, which will threaten the future of the 
people of Earth.
We, your Elder Brothers, cannot stand aside and watch while the very 
future of the world is under threat. America is a great nation with 
much of good to give the world. It must now awaken to its soul's 
longing to serve, to live in peace and justice, and, together, in 
harmony and co-operation, to work with all nations to remake this 
world.
This election can be a great turning point in the affairs of men. 
Cast your vote, We beg you, for justice, sharing and peace.

Share International Magazine, November 2004

http://www.shareintl.org

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[Duveyoung]

Guess you're going to have to actually read it to find the concepts of
angels and gods therein -- I promise you it's in there.  I had it in
my hands when I confronted Stan Crowe -- had it yellow highlighted.

It's not like Maharishi made a big deal about it -- he wasn't pushing
it, but it was in there -- perhaps as an "aside thought."  

I don't have a copy with me, and I'm not going to buy one, so you'll
have to read the whole thing and report back to us if you want to
score a point.  

Why the squabble?  We all know how religious the movement has always
been -- usually covert but always there. 

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Where, exactly, does Maharishi say anything 
> > > about "angels and gods" in SBAL?   
> > >  
> Nabby wrote: 
> > Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, 
> > but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must 
> > be correct. 
> >
> Maybe so, but I've got SBAL right here on my desk and
> I can't find in it anywhere that Maharishi talks about
> "angels and gods". Go figure.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence Demo

[Marek Reavis]

Vaj, thanks for that; what a nice version of a great song.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A number of the demos for the White Album were hashed out at  
> Harrison's Kinfauns estate on his Ampex four-track R to R. The demo 
of  
> Dear Prudence has a snip at the end where Lennon tells about 
Prudence  
> going bonkers in Rishikesh under the "care" of MMY.
> 
> http://www.box.net/shared/j1mette684
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: What Is Not A Thought

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hagen J. Holtz" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Ben Gilberti 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 2:39 PM
>   Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Is Not A Thought
> 
> 
> 
>   This is just a very tiny insight. 
> 
>   What is not a thought?  What's more real than thought?
> 
>   Now don't get excited, this insight is very tiny.  
> 
>   Consider this.  2+2=4 Is that a thought?   
> 
>   Here's the thing.   You clearly can have the thought 2+2=4, 
that's obvious.   BUT IT'S NOT JUST A THOUGHT!The only reason 
that the thought 2+2=4 is of any interest is because IT REPRESENTS A 
PRINCIPLE!
> 
>   A principle is a thought as well. And by the way: The proof for 
2+2 being 4  is depending on your underlying principles 
(axiomatics). And these are just thoughts :-).
> 
>   And 2+2 can also be more, if you look from the point of view of 
quality (see Maharishi effect as best example).
> 
>   The principle is that if you put together two of anything twice 
you going to ALWAYS get four.
> 
>   The reason why that principle is not a thought, even though you 
can only think of it AS a thought, is because that principle is 
ALWAYS TRUE regardless of whether anyone thinks it or not.  
> 
>   Nothing can be true without having been thought. The moment you 
do not think it, it is just not there, not existing.
> 
>   And it's true at all times, in all places, and under all 
conditions. 
> 
>   That is a postulate but not a truth as such. A truth is always 
relative, depending of preceding prerequisites. If it was absolute 
it would not be a truth. 
> 
>So it's a universal principle.  And it would still be true even 
if everyone in the universe was convinced that 2+2=5.   Wouldn't 
matter.  The principle would still be just as true.  
> 
>   This is not a proper argument. The universality of a principle 
is not dependent on a wrong or false believe. It is dependent on 
raised theories, which can be either verified or falsified. But if 
you think they would be true, then this is just a believe.
> 
>   Like I say, it's tiny. But it may have enormous implications.  
It would mean that LIFE is intimately connected with universal 
principle.  
> 
>   Seems to be the case.
> 
>   Now consider this.  All the protons, neutrons, electrons and all 
the stuff those fellas do, are are all described by mathematical 
principles that define all their characteristics.  In fact some 
Physicists say that they're only "occasions of characteristics" 
themselves, or in other words, only occasions of principle.  
Principle that was just as real in the middle ages when no one had 
any THOUGHTS about it, principle that is no more real now that 834 
Atomic Physicists are thinking thoughts about it all the time. 
> 
>   It may have been real, but that is our thought. Therefore a 
principle is a thought :-).
> 
>   So what, Ben?  Just like principle is beyond all thought, Life 
is beyond all your insights.  Life isn't something to understand, 
you hopeless egghead; Life is something to be experienced.  
> 
>   I do not know, what the egg-head said, but he is right: Life is 
insight, life is thought, life is experience, these are all aspects 
or variations of the same principle, which again can manifest as an 
insight, a thought or an experience.
> 
>   Ok, well then, how can one EXPERIENCE PRINCIPLE?   
> 
>   Can you guess what the Ultimate Universal Principle would be?  
> 
>   GOD!  Maybe God's not only that, but He surely is that at least!
> 
>   It's you, that is God.
> 
>   And how do we experience God? 
> 
>   "Thy will be done!" 
> 
>   Sounds a bit spacy.
> 
>   And now wait till you hear this! 
> 
>   First listen to these guys, David Swarup & Jeff Hijlkema, 
playing music by just listening to God, not knowing what they're 
going to play till they play it.  http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?
fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=116913507&blogID=349306059
> 
>   So they are listening to themselves, otherwise I personally 
would like to get name, address, mobile-and social security numbers 
of this "GOD".
> 
>   No, come on now, take three minutes to listen to that, just 
click on it, and then listen. 
> 
>   (pause)
> 
>   Now remember what they said about how they played?   "an amazing 
acoustic and a magic improvisation -- we did not say a word..it came 
to us in the moment from the beginning till the end!
>   Thanks up there!:):):):)"
> 
>   That's the way how inspiration or music should function.
> 
>   This is what we're all after, to be Life-inspired in every 
moment, in all we do. 
> 
>   A new revelation or recognition ?
> 
>   I've noticed it beginning to happen in some things between me 
and Mary; and in some emails I write, not anything I post as yet, 
just one on one emails, when I don't think, I just write, and it's 
perfect for it's purpose, and I know if I gave it any thought I 
would never have written what I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "guyfawkes91" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> > This fellow just wants the fees for himself, 
> > thats all there is to it.
> What's wrong with that. Every other profession works like that. Seems
> like a sensible business model to me.

If you are american, like that fellow, I guess it makes perfect sense. 
Seems like the only thing they really care for are dollars. Pity then 
that that currency if going down very fast and will be used in one 
country only very soon.

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Where, exactly, does Maharishi say anything 
> > > about "angels and gods" in SBAL?   
> > >  
> Nabby wrote: 
> > Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, 
> > but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must 
> > be correct. 
> >
> Maybe so, but I've got SBAL right here on my desk and
> I can't find in it anywhere that Maharishi talks about
> "angels and gods". Go figure.

That's what I thought too... ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[MDixon6569]

 
In a message dated 2/3/08 9:18:28 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In a  message dated 2/3/08 8:46:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
> 
> > And you think the Republicans are going to lay  down and let the
> > Democrats just do as they please if Obama is  elected? The
> > socialist agenda of higher taxes and redistribution  of wealth,
> > with higher energy costs,
> 
> Don't  forget universal health care.
> 
> along with an erosion of the  Bill of 
> > Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's  opposition.
> 
> Any Democrat who is elected will be  fighting
> tooth and nail to put the Bill of Rights and
> the rest  of the Constitution back together
> again after its merciless shredding  by the Bush
> administration.
> 
> Universal healthcare was  included in *higher taxes and
> redistribution of wealth*. Democrats  have fought tooth
> and nail to erode the first and second amendments  thru
> attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and
>  the attempts to restrict gun ownership.

This is too ridiculous to even  deserve a comment.




Thank you, you just did.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: If Obama gets the nod ---- (Ann Coulter: I'll campa...

[MDixon6569]

 
In a message dated 2/3/08 9:17:36 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

And it  will turn out the same for either Hillary or Obama should
> either one  of them get elected. We are a nation polarized and 
> neither side is  going to work with the other. What makes you think 
> Hillary can do any  better of a job than Obama pushing thru an 
> agenda if the opposition  is determined to see the President fail?

Because she at least knows  what she'd be up against;
she's been fighting these people for a long  time.
Obama just doesn't have a clue.



Well maybe if somebody else were to scream "there is a right wing  conspiracy 
against me" somebody might believe them.



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48)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear Prudence Demo

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A number of the demos for the White Album were hashed out at  
> Harrison's Kinfauns estate on his Ampex four-track R to R. The demo of  
> Dear Prudence has a snip at the end where Lennon tells about Prudence  
> going bonkers in Rishikesh under the "care" of MMY.
> 
> http://www.box.net/shared/j1mette684
>


Excellent!  John is so sarcastic.  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch- please lead secular organization to teach TM

[Richard J. Williams]

> > Where, exactly, does Maharishi say anything 
> > about "angels and gods" in SBAL?   
> >  
Nabby wrote: 
> Quite a few years have gone by since I read SBAL, 
> but since Edg himself is quoting from there it must 
> be correct. 
>
Maybe so, but I've got SBAL right here on my desk and
I can't find in it anywhere that Maharishi talks about
"angels and gods". Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello and London Meditation Centre

[guyfawkes91]

> This fellow just wants the fees for himself, 
> thats all there is to it.
What's wrong with that. Every other profession works like that. Seems
like a sensible business model to me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[Richard J. Williams]

Robert wrote:
> ...the moral decay, 
>
"He balances a succinct discussion of each school's 
philosophy with the personal and moral (or, often, 
immoral) practices of its gurus." - David Marshall

'World of the Gurus'
by Vishal Mangalwadi
Cornerstone Press, Chicago, 1992 
http://tinyurl.com/2udnsb

> apathy;
>
Why Babaji, won't you put the pipe down, stand up 
and fight to save the children?

'The Fighting Ascetics of India'
by J.N. Farquhar 
University press, 1925

Fortified Temple of Fighting Ascetics:
http://tinyurl.com/2v82ze

[FairfieldLife] ' Ugly Man ' by Rickie Lee Jones

[do.rflex]

Excellent tune. Ugly men.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUFWNg8OBII

[FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence Demo

[Vaj]

A number of the demos for the White Album were hashed out at  
Harrison's Kinfauns estate on his Ampex four-track R to R. The demo of  
Dear Prudence has a snip at the end where Lennon tells about Prudence  
going bonkers in Rishikesh under the "care" of MMY.


http://www.box.net/shared/j1mette684

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Clinton/Bush Years= Moral Decay of USA'

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > In a message dated 2/3/08 8:46:19 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
> > jstein@ writes:
> > 
> > > And  you think the Republicans are going to lay down and let the
> > > Democrats  just do as they please if Obama is elected? The
> > > socialist agenda of  higher taxes and redistribution of wealth,
> > > with higher energy  costs,
> > 
> > Don't forget universal health care.
> > 
> > along with an erosion  of the Bill of 
> > > Rights will be resisted strongly by Obama's  opposition.
> > 
> > Any Democrat who is elected will be fighting
> > tooth and  nail to put the Bill of Rights and
> > the rest of the Constitution back  together
> > again after its merciless shredding by the  Bush
> > administration.
> > 
> > Universal healthcare was included in *higher taxes and
> > redistribution of wealth*. Democrats have fought tooth
> > and nail to erode the first and second amendments thru
> > attacks on religious freedom, free political speech, and
> > the attempts to restrict gun ownership.
> 
> This is too ridiculous to even deserve a comment.


I've referred to Dixon's similar comments as: 'The continuing empty
rhetoric of a hopeless willfully blind passenger on the freaky leaky
right wing GOP sinking ship.' 

Re: [FairfieldLife] What Is Not A Thought

[Hagen J. Holtz]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ben Gilberti 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2008 2:39 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] What Is Not A Thought



  This is just a very tiny insight. 

  What is not a thought?  What's more real than thought?

  Now don't get excited, this insight is very tiny.  

  Consider this.  2+2=4 Is that a thought?   

  Here's the thing.   You clearly can have the thought 2+2=4, that's obvious.   
BUT IT'S NOT JUST A THOUGHT!The only reason that the thought 2+2=4 is of 
any interest is because IT REPRESENTS A PRINCIPLE!

  A principle is a thought as well. And by the way: The proof for 2+2 being 4  
is depending on your underlying principles (axiomatics). And these are just 
thoughts :-).

  And 2+2 can also be more, if you look from the point of view of quality (see 
Maharishi effect as best example).

  The principle is that if you put together two of anything twice you going to 
ALWAYS get four.

  The reason why that principle is not a thought, even though you can only 
think of it AS a thought, is because that principle is ALWAYS TRUE regardless 
of whether anyone thinks it or not.  

  Nothing can be true without having been thought. The moment you do not think 
it, it is just not there, not existing.

  And it's true at all times, in all places, and under all conditions. 

  That is a postulate but not a truth as such. A truth is always relative, 
depending of preceding prerequisites. If it was absolute it would not be a 
truth. 

   So it's a universal principle.  And it would still be true even if everyone 
in the universe was convinced that 2+2=5.   Wouldn't matter.  The principle 
would still be just as true.  

  This is not a proper argument. The universality of a principle is not 
dependent on a wrong or false believe. It is dependent on raised theories, 
which can be either verified or falsified. But if you think they would be true, 
then this is just a believe.

  Like I say, it's tiny. But it may have enormous implications.  It would mean 
that LIFE is intimately connected with universal principle.  

  Seems to be the case.

  Now consider this.  All the protons, neutrons, electrons and all the stuff 
those fellas do, are are all described by mathematical principles that define 
all their characteristics.  In fact some Physicists say that they're only 
"occasions of characteristics" themselves, or in other words, only occasions of 
principle.  Principle that was just as real in the middle ages when no one had 
any THOUGHTS about it, principle that is no more real now that 834 Atomic 
Physicists are thinking thoughts about it all the time. 

  It may have been real, but that is our thought. Therefore a principle is a 
thought :-).

  So what, Ben?  Just like principle is beyond all thought, Life is beyond all 
your insights.  Life isn't something to understand, you hopeless egghead; Life 
is something to be experienced.  

  I do not know, what the egg-head said, but he is right: Life is insight, life 
is thought, life is experience, these are all aspects or variations of the same 
principle, which again can manifest as an insight, a thought or an experience.

  Ok, well then, how can one EXPERIENCE PRINCIPLE?   

  Can you guess what the Ultimate Universal Principle would be?  

  GOD!  Maybe God's not only that, but He surely is that at least!

  It's you, that is God.

  And how do we experience God? 

  "Thy will be done!" 

  Sounds a bit spacy.

  And now wait till you hear this! 

  First listen to these guys, David Swarup & Jeff Hijlkema, playing music by 
just listening to God, not knowing what they're going to play till they play 
it.  
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=116913507&blogID=349306059

  So they are listening to themselves, otherwise I personally would like to get 
name, address, mobile-and social security numbers of this "GOD".

  No, come on now, take three minutes to listen to that, just click on it, and 
then listen. 

  (pause)

  Now remember what they said about how they played?   "an amazing acoustic and 
a magic improvisation -- we did not say a word..it came to us in the moment 
from the beginning till the end!
  Thanks up there!:):):):)"

  That's the way how inspiration or music should function.

  This is what we're all after, to be Life-inspired in every moment, in all we 
do. 

  A new revelation or recognition ?

  I've noticed it beginning to happen in some things between me and Mary; and 
in some emails I write, not anything I post as yet, just one on one emails, 
when I don't think, I just write, and it's perfect for it's purpose, and I know 
if I gave it any thought I would never have written what I did.  

  This is a poetical description of how thoughts may function but this is not a 
science-theoretically or philosophically appropriate consideration. The same 
way as if you stated, that Pizza would be "no food for you" even though it 
obvioulsy woul