[FairfieldLife] Re: Gullibility Vortexes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Gee, it's lucky you found something right at the beginning you could quibble with (even though you don't offer any rebuttal), so you could stop reading and avoid dealing with all the other information. I'm going to restore the parts you snipped from that first section so we have a fuller story: They don't add anything, the principle part is that this guy thinks the CIA cover up the realitty of crop circles. Yes, it adds the fact that there's *documentation* that this has been going on; it's not just paranoid imagining. Those are the parts you carefully snipped, interestingly enough. It also adds more details about Doug and Dave that call their credibility in question (not just with regard to the notion that they were cooperating in a government debunking effort). It's lame Judy, lame. Translation: I can't debunk it, so I'll just call it lame and hope that does the trick. I thought the rest was crap too BTW, kind of a sub-saucer magazine for the true believers. The government denies it! It must be true! I think you're annoyed because it shows so many of your objections to be smartass rather than thoughtful. Nowhere does it suggest that because the government denies it, therefore it must be true. Rather, it gives many details of why the circles aren't so easily explained away. And it's stuff the true believers know already, so it wasn't written for them at all. This is for people who want to know more about the issues and the facts (in other words, *genuine* skeptics, not skeptopaths like yourself). I think this article is typical of the rubbish you find on the net But unfortunately you will be unable to take the time to debunk any of it for us, right? The CIA stop paying me at 6pm so I would have to do it on my own time. And I'd guess you didn't even look at the second article. Didn't notice a link, but I won't if you think it's as good as that one. You could always go back and find the link I gave, of course, but I'm not surprised you won't. You are really not interested in exploring this; you just like to sound off. Ha!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The First Annual Sitges Doo Dee Doo Doo Festival
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Unfortunately for the distributors, my review is going to contain lines like, To call anyone connected with this film 'creative' is an insult to creative people and, If shit got this movie on it, shit would wipe it off. Loathsome piece of trash. Not even TV quality. Not even *American* TV quality. You must have seen a different film than I. Sure it was not your 1990's X-Files, it was better. I think Carter was trying to get it above the level of a typical pop corn movie and maybe that's why it disappointed some and perhaps you felt you wasted some tinfoil. There was nothing much woo woo about it. No UFOs or chipped people. More of a crime drama ... Exactly. It could have been an episode of CSI Wherever, only not as well-written or acted. Ordinary. Nothing interesting about it whatsoever. And it *abandoned* everything (what little there was) that made the original series interesting. (You can tell I was never a fan...I always thought the series was aimed at adolescents.) ...and I enjoyed it. Hardly down in the sewers of Shyamalan's The Happening. It is your right to have liked it. I thought that it was very MUCH on the same level as The Happening. That is, if there had not been a name associated with the film, it would never even have been reviewed in the media. It was that ordinary, and thus that unnoticeable. The X-Files were a franchise fast food chain. People got *used* to the food there. The bur- gers weren't all that good, the Cokes were flat, but you knew the formula by heart, and always knew that you'd get a burger and a Coke. This movie was like walking in, ordering a burger and a Coke, and getting a really bad hot dog (no mustard, no relish, just the hot dog on a stale bun) and a carton of milk with an expiry date from last year on it. And as they took your money and gave you your tray, the servers said, Enjoy your Happy X-Files meal, our patented burger and a Coke. I stand by my original review of loathsome, but I'm glad you found something in it to like. I could not. But I did like your line about it being a waste of tinfoil. That was better than anything in the movie. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gullibility Vortexes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! For your information, Richard, this word is actually a mantra in Chinese Taoist tradition. The word Ha! is NOT associated in any way with laughter, as it is in English. Instead, this mantra is used similarly to Phat! in Tibetan, as an expletive hurled to dispel demons and bothersome evil entities who won't leave you alone. You may have intuited this use of the mantra, or you might have some Taoist past lives under your belt. :-)
[FairfieldLife] 'Opposition Leader Charged w/Sodomy?'
KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian authorities should wrap up their investigations into an allegation of sodomy against opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim as soon as possible, Home Minister Syed Hamid Albar said yesterday. Police have not pressed charges against Anwar since the allegation surfaced late last month, raising questions about a case that has stoked political tensions and unsettled foreign investors. I always believe that in any criminal investigation, the earlier you wrap up the better it would be. Otherwise there will be all sorts of unnecessary rumours, he said. But he declined to comment on a blogger's posting alleging that a private doctor found no evidence of Anwar's aide being sodomised. You cannot have a trial before a trial and a trial in the media and the Internet. I think that is not a very healthy position?. Anwar, 60, has dismissed the claim that he sodomised his former male aide as a political conspiracy to thwart his plans to lead the opposition into power for the first time in Malaysian history. Sodomy is a crime punishable by up to 20 years imprisonment in Malaysia. The claim mirrors events in 1998, when Anwar's political ambitions were halted by a jail term for sodomy and corruption. Syed Hamid strongly dismissed talk of a government conspiracy, adding that the country's security situation was under control and foreign investors should not be worried.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/post?postID=hd0c66qqAS- CPtr\ 1VREnlP81oRDaRWbqDPtQeeEO2cJuZnWORp99To70J8nNhXVNGXjr_- oLO0yPyvw9JFYhTR1\ fVWs , R.G. babajii_99@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/post?postID=CL- yygi3hRdfSIS\ VqCgbgbUAmywLF4JyFgi4mw- vcT4uBklgoVNYByuwhXI2HSHdVwkdpS8sjq8rpLvbJkV3SsF\ rHZKh2w , Hagen J. Holtz hagen.j.holtz@ wrote: R.G., your thesis that Jesus would be the sound closest to God seems to me like a claim directly out of mere mythology and not really science-based, saying only: You may believe it or not. This is not my thesis, at all... My thesis is that all these mantras are 'names', 'vibrations',vehicles for Transcendence. I am proposing that if one was a follower of Jesus, and one would like a mantra associated with him, then I was suggesting the mantra or sound: 'Yeshua' For example, when TM was being taught in public schools and it was found to be a religion, there would be another objection, and that is that the mantras originated as 'names' or 'aspects of God'... So, if that objection arose, and one didn't want to start TM, Because they felt they wanted a mantra associated with the God of their choosing... Then for someone like that, you could say: This is your mantra, for bringing Jesus and the qualities of him, By using a vibration, which would relate to him. So, if you wanted to transcend on the name or sound Yeshua, Then that would be a way for someone who felt a clossness to Jesus, To find an inner sense of him, and eventually transcend, if they were taught how to use this vibration of the sound Yeshua, in the same effortless way, they think any other thoughts. So, in that way, TM could be said to be a Universal Technique... Different from the rest, Because it's not chanting, it's not dogma; Rather it is a way to Transcend on a 'life-supporting sound. I am making this sound Yeshua, a mantra that would relate to Jesus, From my own experience. There is a tradition in the Jewish religion, that is called sitting Shiva. When someone passes away, the family and friends get together to comfort the family, by sitting with them, and this is called: Sitting Shiva. Coincidence? Shiva is used as a mantra for God, also, No Coincidence: Jehova= JaiShiva Joshua = Jeshiwa= JaiShiwa Jesus = Jeshua = JaiShiwa Adam = Allahem = Adama (the undivided) = Atma = Allah = Eli = Elija OffWorld No one mantra, is 'The Mantra of God'... The technique of meditation itself, is a way to get to God... That is Maharishi's teaching to the world. A way to transcend. This is what is missing at church, or synagog, or mosque. The dogma keeps people from transcending and engages the mind, Instead of transcending the mind. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
(snip) No Coincidence: Jehova= JaiShiva Joshua = Jeshiwa= JaiShiwa Jesus = Jeshua = JaiShiwa Adam = Allahem = Adama (the undivided) = Atma = Allah = Eli = Elija OffWorld Ya, ya, das ist gut, ya
[FairfieldLife] Re: Niece and Nephew in the UK
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 18-year-old niece and 23-year-old nephew, who grew up in FF and still live here when they're not travelling, are planning to visit Ireland and all of the UK, including Wales and Scotland, starting August 6. If anyone reading this would like to put them up for a night or two or can recommend anything they should see or do, please let me know. Thanks. If they've been in FF all their lives then something as simple as a picnic in Hyde Park London on a Sunday afternoon would be an education in itself. Listen to the languages, watch the people. It's quite a diverse place. Maybe someone can rustle up a visit to one of the trading floors in the City. Then Greenwich for the 0 longitude, but they'd have to read Longitude by Dava Soble first to understand what it is. If they're into understanding the modern world then the science museum is a must. It's not on the same level as the Smithsonian, but if you understand what's there it's quietly staggering, an awful lot of first ever... bits. Then the Natural History Museum for another set of first ever... bits and Darwin on his pedestal in the tea room. It contains the story of how people in the 1800's realised that the world wasn't 6,000 years old and run by God, but quite a bit older and run by simple physical laws. Subtly, the building is built like a cathedral, the implication being that this is a cathedral to the new truth brought to light by science, which was supplanting religion and its supposedly revealed truth. Mind expanding stuff if you can grasp what you're seeing. For Scotland they'd need to read about the Edinburgh Enlightenment and see the memorials to David Hume, Adam Smith and others. Of course, if they're not into the modern world and prefer fairy tales and hippy trippy stuff then Glasto etc is the place to go. Though the best time for Glastonbury would be the annual rock concert, they'd have to come next year for that.
[FairfieldLife] 'The Failings of Ronald Reagan'
'Ronald Reagan's America?' He led the country down the road to greed. He created a facade of America. He did nothing to help the energy crisis. He created 'sound-bite' elitism and policies. He helped to create a police state with drug testing, And large importations of cocaine, and the use of. Many infringes on privacy, and jails being filled. His administration was involved with drug dealers, And Iranian agents, with whom they helped manipulate the election. He created a contraction in government, and everything began to be Reagan-like. The whole flag pin thing, mentality, started with him. Pettiness, just say no Crunch the sixties and the seventies... Make a fool of Jimmie Carter, and innocence. Trust no one, verify everything. Our culture became possessed with status and posses ions. More and more of sound-bites... Anything that smelled of the counter-culture, anti-war movement, Was smashed. People like Pat Buchanan, who worked for Ronny, Helped in this fake disposition and even today, Compared the rhetoric of Barack Obama to John Lennon. In a mocking way... What the hell is he talking about? Reagan strengthened the forces which President Ike Eisenhower; The Corporate/Militarization of our culture... This has led to violence, in media, war in Iraq, and everything spinning out of control. Bush is the son of Reagan. McCain is a soldier in Reagan's army We need a change, real bad, folks... R.g. Madison, WI
[FairfieldLife] More important crop circle bulletins from the Space Brothers
The which Internet browser do aliens prefer? crop circle: http://ava7.com/images/firefox-crop-circle.jpg Two-faced alien (not to be trusted) crop circle: http://www.woowoowoo.com/b3ta/crop_circle.jpg Hello Kitty crop circle: http://photos3.flickr.com/4821252_a781e254c0.jpg Games aliens play crop circle: http://www.gearthblog.com/images/images1106/pacman.jpg Proof that aliens know what circles are all about crop circle: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd63/Xina1/Funny/CROP-CIRCLE--38762.jpg Anti-Monsanto crop circle: http://www.vanityfair.com/images/politics/2008/05/poar03_monsanto0805.jpg Bucky Fuller crop circle: http://www.bfi.org/images/content/fuller/today/crop.png Aliens are really out-of-work yoga teachers crop circle: http://www.yogadawg.com/images/yoga_circle.JPG Crop circle alien self portrait: http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/51/40551992yx3.jpg Aleister Crowley really WAS an alien crop circle: http://www.hyperflight.com/images/pentacle-crop-circle-2002.gif Aliens get drunk too crop circle: http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06/cornfieldPHST_450x486.jpg What TV show do aliens watch? crop circle: http://www.journalstar.com/content/articles/2008/01/30/living/gz/video_games/doc47a09afa91d46076758130.jpg Map to alien pirate treasure crop circle: http://idont.no/ilovethisworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/cropcirlcle.jpg Ken Wilber crop circle: http://aura0.gaia.com/photos/8/75654/small/Ken_Wilber_Crop_Circle.jpg #2 favorite website among aliens crop circle: http://skepticview.com/images/crop-skeptic.jpg #1 favorite website among aliens crop circle: http://boingboing.net/images/Gatwick_176342a.jpg What aliens look like and what they really think of us crop circle: http://mauweb.net/goodies/mau-crop.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
These letter-similarities and linguistic derivations can be taken as elucidate language relationships but must not necessarily reveal any insights into the impact of mantras as such. Romantics regarding assumed holy meanings of so-called mantras seems to be okay but if not coping with consistency to its topic it will be an uncontrolled tool for nebulizing of to be properly comprehended consecutions and interrelations. - Original Message - From: R.G. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God' (snip) No Coincidence: Jehova= JaiShiva Joshua = Jeshiwa= JaiShiwa Jesus = Jeshua = JaiShiwa Adam = Allahem = Adama (the undivided) = Atma = Allah = Eli = Elija OffWorld Ya, ya, das ist gut, ya
[FairfieldLife] Fw: 'Germans for Obama'
--- On Tue, 7/29/08, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 'Germans for Obama' To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], David [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adrianna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 6:21 AM We loved the speech, here in Wisconsin; It reminded us of the vast new time we are living in. Think Berlin, 1945, in ashes. Think Berlin, 2008. What a remarkable image for the future... For our children, and grandchildren. What an opportunity will be lost. If we elect another senile Reagan R.G. Madison,WI
[FairfieldLife] Re: More important crop circle bulletins from the Space Brothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The which Internet browser do aliens prefer? crop circle: http://ava7.com/images/firefox-crop-circle.jpg Two-faced alien (not to be trusted) crop circle: http://www.woowoowoo.com/b3ta/crop_circle.jpg Hello Kitty crop circle: http://photos3.flickr.com/4821252_a781e254c0.jpg Games aliens play crop circle: http://www.gearthblog.com/images/images1106/pacman.jpg Proof that aliens know what circles are all about crop circle: http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd63/Xina1/Funny/CROP-CIRCLE-- 38762.jpg Anti-Monsanto crop circle: http://www.vanityfair.com/images/politics/2008/05/poar03_monsanto0805. jpg Bucky Fuller crop circle: http://www.bfi.org/images/content/fuller/today/crop.png Aliens are really out-of-work yoga teachers crop circle: http://www.yogadawg.com/images/yoga_circle.JPG Crop circle alien self portrait: http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/51/40551992yx3.jpg Aleister Crowley really WAS an alien crop circle: http://www.hyperflight.com/images/pentacle-crop-circle-2002.gif Aliens get drunk too crop circle: http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06/cornfieldPHST_450x486.jpg Or is it alien handwriting. Could be the maessage we've been waiting for! What TV show do aliens watch? crop circle: http://www.journalstar.com/content/articles/2008/01/30/living/gz/video _games/doc47a09afa91d46076758130.jpg Map to alien pirate treasure crop circle: http://idont.no/ilovethisworld.com/wp- content/uploads/2006/11/cropcirlcle.jpg Ken Wilber crop circle: http://aura0.gaia.com/photos/8/75654/small/Ken_Wilber_Crop_Circle.jpg #2 favorite website among aliens crop circle: http://skepticview.com/images/crop-skeptic.jpg #1 favorite website among aliens crop circle: http://boingboing.net/images/Gatwick_176342a.jpg What aliens look like and what they really think of us crop circle: http://mauweb.net/goodies/mau-crop.jpg Excellent selection, thanks for that. But I still can't find the Tour de France bicycle one that the aliens considerately put into a field in Kent a few years ago when Le Tour flashed past on it's first excursion north of the channel. I reckon it must be a CIA cover up, they probably don't want us to know that carbon bike technology is back-engineered from alien space craft. How could even the Pleiadeans not be into cycling, their little grey suits are probably lycra.
[FairfieldLife] Tom Boreman
Does anyone know him or of him or his whereabouts Please respond if u do. Thx.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gullibility Vortexes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: Ha! For your information, Richard, this word is actually a mantra in Chinese Taoist tradition. The word Ha! is NOT associated in any way with laughter, as it is in English. Instead, this mantra is used similarly to Phat! in Tibetan, as an expletive hurled to dispel demons and bothersome evil entities who won't leave you alone. You may have intuited this use of the mantra, or you might have some Taoist past lives under your belt. :-) It is amazing what you can say with one word isn't it? While you are correct for the most part, there is a subtext I was trying to get across. In this case Ha! also means I'm not going to get into an argument about whether or not Doug and Dave were CIA stooges trying to discredit the hideous truth about crop circles as it's too preposterous and obviously just some TBs reflexive creation to cope with the fact OTHER people were doing it too. And not only am I NOT narrow minded I'm actually open to any new ideas but have higher standards of evidence than some wishy- washy Newage nerd's sub X-files conspiracy theory website. Does anyone actually think the CIA and MI5 have nothing better to do than worry about nonsense like this? I'm also not a smartass but have thought a lot about crop circles and have reached the conclusion that the balance of probabilities would indicate total hoaxing for the purposes of seeing what sort of mythos the imaginations of people starved of any kind of orthodox spiritual outlet will come up with. So far it has been fascinating to watch. Far from sounding off I think I deal with it in a quite restrained manner, I just have my limits as far as other peoples credululity goes. At the end of the day I'm just waiting to see if anyone ever comes up with evidence I haven't heard a jillion times already that might swing it away from, what to me, is the blatantly obvious conclusion I think Ha! gets the message across quite well, better than any crop circle could.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without passion and some kind of romance, life is not worth much, or not experienced as joyful... Especially if you're not particulary interested in math, and can mathematically understand the mathmantics of Eistein's Theory of Relativity, or any of the Quantum Mechanical equations... So, different strokes for different folks... I was attempting to describe the value of the mantra, as a means of transportation, and the technique for using the mantra, which Maharishi has described quite adequately for us... Whatever you focus on, that will manifest in your life. And whatever your intention in, that will manifest in your life. Mantras are what they are, vibrations of life-supporting qualities, Which we use in Transcendental Meditation. Nicely written. And romance can obviously be a lot of different things. I have a lifelong romance with photography and music. Others are in love with women, Judy is in love with truthfullness, Rick with rumours, Jim with Guru Dev, The Turk with darkness and himself, and Cardemaister is in love with... Heaven knows. Anyway; Maharishis vision of the 200% of life are enjoyed in many different ways. The understanding that the relative and absolute values is the same reality is one of Maharishis greatest contributions. The only important thing is to be happy. - Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gullibility Vortexes
Ha! TurquoiseB wrote: ... this word is actually a mantra in Chinese Taoist tradition. There are no 'mantras' in the Chinese Taoist tradition. Mantras are part of the Indian tantric tradition.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.monroebuzz.com/default.asp? sourceid=smenu=91twindow=Defaultmad=Nosdetail=446wpage=1skeyword= sidate=ccat=ccatm=restate=restatus=reoption=retype=repmin=repmax =rebed=rebath=subname=pform=sc=2334hn=monroebuzzhe=.com Link seems not to work but the article was posted on 06. May.08 You really gotta learn to use TinyURL, Nabs. Here's the May 6 article: http://tinyurl.com/5hvzg3 There are six follow-up articles linked at the end of the story. What's really interesting is that this little dinky county newspaper actually went to the trouble to do some research on crop circles, and in the third article in the series did an excellent reporting job, much better than what Big Media usually manages, particularly about the differences between fake circles and real ones: http://tinyurl.com/6adt7p As it happens, this circle turned out to be a hoax, as the last of the seven articles reports. Experts were called in to examine the circle, and they announced their results at a community meeting: ...It is clearly a manmade formation, [Jeff] Wilson [of Ohio, Director of the Independent Crop Circle Researchers Association] said, comparing the formation as he spoke to a previous pattern that appeared in another nearby wheat field 12 months ago. In that earlier formation we found elevated levels of radioactivity and increased levels of electromagnetic energy and evidence of microwave activity, Wilson said. In this year's pattern we found no extraordinary energy at all. Wilson said that last year's crop circle contained wheat plants with enlarged stem growth nodes, an anomaly that did not manifest in the second crop circle. Of it, he said it was clearly a man-made formation. A former college instructor of physics and astronomy, Wilson pointed out that several characteristics of non manmade crop circles cannot be duplicated by hoaxers. For one, you can't fake radioactivity, Wilson said, Last year the radioactive count inside the first circle was two to four times the amount of normal background activity. And the one sure scientific test that separates man-made formations from those not made by man is the measurement of the lengthened grow nodes. Growth node expulsions are just not a hoaxable effect, he said. Wilson called the recent crop circle a typical hoax. It's not an extraordinarily good one either, he said, but it was done adequately. In terms of fooling anyone, the people who did it did not make a particularly good crop circle. Wilson said it probably only took a couple of hours to create the fake pattern. As he spoke, Wilson kept comparing last year's formation, which was discovered on the other side of Rocky Springs Road in a field owned by the Kefauver family, saying there were significant differences between plant stems inside and outside the circle, and there was a definite increase in levels of radioactivity, electromagnetic, and microwave energy inside the first pattern Read the whole article here: http://tinyurl.com/6q9djh CNN even did a story on this circle before it had been shown to be a fake (video): http://tinyurl.com/9v426
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Texas Muffin Tumble?'
babajii wrote: Ya' Ever Play A Game Called Texas Muffin Tumble Lil' Lady? Get your mind out of the gutter, Babaji!
[FairfieldLife] Re: More important crop circle bulletins from the Space Brothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: north of the channel. I reckon it must be a CIA cover up, they probably don't want us to know that carbon bike technology is back-engineered from alien space craft. How could even the Pleiadeans not be into cycling, their little grey suits are probably lycra. You will find yourself as a complete fool, as if anyone was ever in doubdt, during the next few weeks when farmers will be on national UK television describing how they where payed by the Defense Ministry to cut down crops with Crop Circles.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The First Annual Sitges Doo Dee Doo Doo Festival
TurquoiseB wrote: Loathsome piece of trash. Bhairitu wrote: You must have seen a different film than I. Watching the X-Files movie on a laptop computer when you're drunk in a Spanish bar probably makes the experience a little different.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
The Tetragrammaton is the four Hebrew letters YHWH, YHWH = Shiwa Jehova = JaiShiva God doesn't have a name, least of all Shiva which isn't even a name anyway, even in Hindi. a proper name for God, usually spelled out in English as Yahweh (sometimes Jehovah); the Shema is a confession of faith. Two entirely different things. Hear, O Isreal: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! (Deuteronomy 6:4)
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Texas Muffin Tumble?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: babajii wrote: Ya' Ever Play A Game Called Texas Muffin Tumble Lil' Lady? Get your mind out of the gutter, Babaji! Thanks Tex, you're right... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CNN even did a story on this circle before it had been shown to be a fake (video): http://tinyurl.com/9v426 Nice job Judy, thanks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gullibility Vortexes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In this case Ha! also means I'm not going to get into an argument about whether or not Doug and Dave were CIA stooges trying to discredit the hideous truth about crop circles as it's too preposterous and obviously just some TBs reflexive creation to cope with the fact OTHER people were doing it too. And not only am I NOT narrow minded I'm actually open to any new ideas but have higher standards of evidence than some wishy- washy Newage nerd's sub X-files conspiracy theory website. See, the above is why I say you aren't really interested in exploring the issue. The government coverup angle, while it's well documented, isn't that important, yet you used that part of the article as an excuse to trash the whole thing rather than examining all the other points it made. And the Web site itself is not, of course, a conspiracy theory site. Plus which, that article wasn't presented as evidence of anything. It's just a good survey, an overview, of the various unanswered questions about crop circles. This is typical skeptopathic behavior: pick out one thing you can quibble with and dismiss the whole kit and kaboodle on that basis. snip I'm also not a smartass but have thought a lot about crop circles and have reached the conclusion that the balance of probabilities would indicate total hoaxing for the purposes of seeing what sort of mythos the imaginations of people starved of any kind of orthodox spiritual outlet will come up with. Your thinking about crop circles, at least as reflected in your posts, is quite poorly informed as to a whole host of facts about them. That's what makes you a smartass. (Same with Barry, but he's even less well informed.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gullibility Vortexes
On Jul 29, 2008, at 8:38 AM, authfriend wrote: Your thinking about crop circles, at least as reflected in your posts, is quite poorly informed as to a whole host of facts about them. That's what makes you a smartass. (Same with Barry, but he's even less well informed.) Better to be a smartass than a dumbass, Judy... like the rest of us. :) Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
This might all be true, if you are living romance on the level of Being and not solely on the level of your daily unstable moods and imaginative thoughts. However what makes me suspicious in what you both say is, that there seems to be definitely a lack of genuine experience of pure Being, being inherent in your daily routine, otherwise you could not be in the position to talk in such an easy-going manner about an important subject of that kind. Of course it is principally possible to reach the moon by train or by walk even instead of using the typically appropriate means of a space ship or something similar, as long as you are not forced to put your cards on the table in order to minutely explain and justify, how you expect to reach there including description of the type of vehicle, road and estimated time frame. Free-style theorizing about mantras and your felt relation to them does not necessarily lead to useful and making sense hypotheses. Hagen - Original Message - From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, R.G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without passion and some kind of romance, life is not worth much, or not experienced as joyful... Especially if you're not particulary interested in math, and can mathematically understand the mathmantics of Eistein's Theory of Relativity, or any of the Quantum Mechanical equations... So, different strokes for different folks... I was attempting to describe the value of the mantra, as a means of transportation, and the technique for using the mantra, which Maharishi has described quite adequately for us... Whatever you focus on, that will manifest in your life. And whatever your intention in, that will manifest in your life. Mantras are what they are, vibrations of life-supporting qualities, Which we use in Transcendental Meditation. Nicely written. And romance can obviously be a lot of different things. I have a lifelong romance with photography and music. Others are in love with women, Judy is in love with truthfullness, Rick with rumours, Jim with Guru Dev, The Turk with darkness and himself, and Cardemaister is in love with... Heaven knows. Anyway; Maharishis vision of the 200% of life are enjoyed in many different ways. The understanding that the relative and absolute values is the same reality is one of Maharishis greatest contributions. The only important thing is to be happy. - Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gullibility Vortexes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: snip In this case Ha! also means I'm not going to get into an argument about whether or not Doug and Dave were CIA stooges trying to discredit the hideous truth about crop circles as it's too preposterous and obviously just some TBs reflexive creation to cope with the fact OTHER people were doing it too. And not only am I NOT narrow minded I'm actually open to any new ideas but have higher standards of evidence than some wishy- washy Newage nerd's sub X-files conspiracy theory website. See, the above is why I say you aren't really interested in exploring the issue. The government coverup angle, while it's well documented, isn't that important, yet you used that part of the article as an excuse to trash the whole thing rather than examining all the other points it made. And the Web site itself is not, of course, a conspiracy theory site. Plus which, that article wasn't presented as evidence of anything. It's just a good survey, an overview, of the various unanswered questions about crop circles. This is typical skeptopathic behavior: pick out one thing you can quibble with and dismiss the whole kit and kaboodle on that basis. snip I'm also not a smartass but have thought a lot about crop circles and have reached the conclusion that the balance of probabilities would indicate total hoaxing for the purposes of seeing what sort of mythos the imaginations of people starved of any kind of orthodox spiritual outlet will come up with. Your thinking about crop circles, at least as reflected in your posts, is quite poorly informed as to a whole host of facts about them. That's what makes you a smartass. (Same with Barry, but he's even less well informed.) Facts Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gullibility Vortexes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! TurquoiseB wrote: ... this word is actually a mantra in Chinese Taoist tradition. There are no 'mantras' in the Chinese Taoist tradition. Mantras are part of the Indian tantric tradition. Ha!
[FairfieldLife] Re: More important crop circle bulletins from the Space Brothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: north of the channel. I reckon it must be a CIA cover up, they probably don't want us to know that carbon bike technology is back-engineered from alien space craft. How could even the Pleiadeans not be into cycling, their little grey suits are probably lycra. You will find yourself as a complete fool, as if anyone was ever in doubdt, during the next few weeks when farmers will be on national UK television describing how they where payed by the Defense Ministry to cut down crops with Crop Circles. I can't wait Nabby, I'll post it when the story breaks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gullibility Vortexes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Your thinking about crop circles, at least as reflected in your posts, is quite poorly informed as to a whole host of facts about them. That's what makes you a smartass. (Same with Barry, but he's even less well informed.) Facts Judy? You couldn't possibly have made my point for me any more definitively.
[FairfieldLife] I now believe that crop circles were created by aliens!
As difficult as it is for me to say this, I was wuh...wuh...wuh...wrong. Aliens ARE responsible for crop circles. There is now not the slightest doubt in my mind of this. I am a True Believer. The piece of evidence that revealed my lamentable prior state of ignorance and brought me to the light is clickable below. When I saw this image, I knew instantly that nothing human could have created -- or even imagined -- anything this hideous. It HAS to have been created by aliens. http://tinyurl.com/592cka
Re: [FairfieldLife] I now believe that crop circles were created by aliens!
On Jul 29, 2008, at 9:32 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: As difficult as it is for me to say this, I was wuh...wuh...wuh...wrong. Aliens ARE responsible for crop circles. There is now not the slightest doubt in my mind of this. I am a True Believer. The piece of evidence that revealed my lamentable prior state of ignorance and brought me to the light is clickable below. When I saw this image, I knew instantly that nothing human could have created -- or even imagined -- anything this hideous. It HAS to have been created by aliens. http://tinyurl.com/592cka Man, Barry, you *are* evil! Are you sure you're not an alien yourself? Proves my point, of course, of how easy it is to fake this stuff. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.monroebuzz.com/default.asp? sourceid=smenu=91twindow=Defaultmad=Nosdetail=446wpage=1skeyword = sidate=ccat=ccatm=restate=restatus=reoption=retype=repmin=repm ax =rebed=rebath=subname=pform=sc=2334hn=monroebuzzhe=.com Link seems not to work but the article was posted on 06. May.08 You really gotta learn to use TinyURL, Nabs. Here's the May 6 article: http://tinyurl.com/5hvzg3 I love the way they find a few discrepancies and declare that they were NOT made by humans. Going out on a limb I think. Perhaps they would be better off saying they were made by different methods, if that is indeed the case as the whole field (no pun) is riddled with TB crackpots. I'll believe their research when it gets accepted in the New Scientist journal. Which it would, any evidence of ETs or unknown earth powers would be world-shattering. I recommend NOT holding your breath though.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I now believe that crop circles were created by aliens!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 29, 2008, at 9:32 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: As difficult as it is for me to say this, I was wuh...wuh...wuh...wrong. Aliens ARE responsible for crop circles. There is now not the slightest doubt in my mind of this. I am a True Believer. The piece of evidence that revealed my lamentable prior state of ignorance and brought me to the light is clickable below. When I saw this image, I knew instantly that nothing human could have created -- or even imagined -- anything this hideous. It HAS to have been created by aliens. http://tinyurl.com/592cka Man, Barry, you *are* evil! Are you sure you're not an alien yourself? Actually, I am an alien, under contract to the CIA to spread propaganda discrediting the humans who have discovered our presence on the planet. The CIA wants to keep this information hidden, because our females make the Earth females look like chimpanzees. And they're easy, which is the real reason the CIA guys want to keep them to themselves. Proves my point, of course, of how easy it is to fake this stuff. Ten minutes with Paint Shop Pro (I am *not* a Photoshop nerd, and have never attempted anything like this before), and a little simple HTML.
[FairfieldLife] The Pentagon's Brave New World
Operating with little ethical oversight, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) has been tapping cutting-edge advances in neuroscience, computers and robotics in a quest to build the 'perfect warfighter.' Dovetailing precisely with other projects to 'dominate' the urban 'battlespace' of global south and 'homeland' cities, DARPA researchers are stretching moral boundaries where clear distinctions between 'human' and 'machine' are being consciously blurred. As the Center for Cognitive Liberty Ethics warns, 'The right of a person to liberty, autonomy, and privacy over his or her own intellect is situated at the core of what it means to be a free person. This principle is what gives life to some of our most well-established and cherished rights. Today, as new drugs and other technologies are being developed for augmenting, monitoring, and manipulating mental processes, it is more important than ever to ensure that our legal system recognizes and protects cognitive liberty as a fundamental right.' (CCLE, Frequently Asked Questions, September 15, 2003) Not only is the right to 'liberty, autonomy, and privacy' being undermined by militarizing the life sciences, but the legal system itself is ill-equipped to deal with advances--and emerging threats-- to 'cognitive liberty' as America's corporatist surveillance state seek new means to elicit compliance and control over individuals as biological science is securitized under the rubric of 'national security.' Full article at: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=vaaid=9701
[FairfieldLife] South Korea Circle
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewphoto/1949/Crop_Circle_Chungnam_Boryou\ ng_City__South_Korea/ http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewphoto/1949/Crop_Circle_Chungnam_Boryo\ ung_City__South_Korea/
[FairfieldLife] What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
I just joined this site. Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89. I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew. Is the nephew the successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million cash stashed away in Swiss accounts? Did Bevin Morris inherit anything? Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina? What about Jeffrey Clemons and Byron P. Rigby? I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to have vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties it was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do something brilliant with the money? Is this not a mystery to anyone who knew this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive sums of cash? I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still exists. I see that it does still exist. The web-site is very professional, and the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500? The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide free tuition to thousands of students for decades. I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev. This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring. The ring was left on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges. MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger. Aparently, he figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as well be him. He loved the ring. He loved Guru Dev. Clearly, he wished to improve the world. Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies. Along with short hair and conservative attire. The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh. Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade? Well, we make the best choices we can given our consciousness at the time. I noticed that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden Dome attendence was not reversing the biological aging. And people were giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely wealthy. Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something completely different. I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these people. I would love to see more consciousness in the world. I still pursue consciousness. I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of having something conscious done with the three billion dollar empire. Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you. You're in a position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light on how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of trusties were dismissed. The good guys were replaced with robots so that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the swiss bank accounts. I know you know this. Why doesn't it bother you? Bevin, did you at least inherite a couple million? if not, you sold your soul for the price of spinach. And that should bother you. God Bless All... JGD, MJF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Here's the May 6 article: http://tinyurl.com/5hvzg3 I love the way they find a few discrepancies and declare that they were NOT made by humans. Actualy they declared that this one *was* made by humans. In any case, those few discrepancies (actually *quite* a few) between real and fake circles are very significant. To dismiss them out of hand is just ignorant. Going out on a limb I think. Perhaps they would be better off saying they were made by different methods, if that is indeed the case as the whole field (no pun) is riddled with TB crackpots. And yet no circle that has been acknowledged to have been made by humans has been found to show these characteristics; and even when humans are assigned the task of replicating them, they haven't been able to do so. Nor has anyone so far been able to suggest by what means they *could* be replicated. They aren't just different means, they're *unknown* means. (For those who haven't been following the discussion, many of these characteristics can be measured only by fairly sophisticated instruments; they have nothing to do with the patterns per se or with whether humans could have created these patterns with boards and rope.) As to the field being riddled with crackpots, that's very true, and it confuses the issue badly. But it's a mistake in logic to think that the crackpots are evidence that the whole thing is a scam. It raises the index of suspicion, but nothing more than that. Also, please note that the experts who debunked the current crop circle in Monroe County are obviously interested in distinguishing fake from real crop circles rather than oohing and ahhing over every new circle that's discovered. They're not TB crackpots, in other words. I'll believe their research when it gets accepted in the New Scientist journal. Which it would, any evidence of ETs or unknown earth powers would be world-shattering. The research done so far has not found evidence of ETs or unknown earth powers. What it's found, again, is characteristics of circles not known to be made by humans that are not seen in those known to be made by humans. I recommend NOT holding your breath though. I wouldn't recommend it either. Publications with a reputation to uphold are going to be extremely wary of writing about crop circles because of the common wisdom that the circles are all faked and that crop circle researchers are all crackpot TBs. In fact, evidence of anything world-shattering, in whatever field, is *unlikely* ever to appear in mainstream publications unless it becomes too concrete to be ignored (e.g., an alien spaceship landing on the White House lawn). Also, did you ever look at the Wikipedia article I cited on the Robertson Panel? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_Panel The article's neutrality has been disputed, but take a look at the Talk page to see what specifically is being disputed (not much) and then read around those flaws for the facts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I now believe that crop circles were created by aliens!
TurquoiseB wrote: Actually, I am an alien... So, why then were you watching the new X-Files movie on a laptop computer?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.monroebuzz.com/default.asp? sourceid=smenu=91twindow=Defaultmad=Nosdetail=446wpage=1skeyword = sidate=ccat=ccatm=restate=restatus=reoption=retype=repmin=repm ax =rebed=rebath=subname=pform=sc=2334hn=monroebuzzhe=.com Link seems not to work but the article was posted on 06. May.08 You really gotta learn to use TinyURL, Nabs. Here's the May 6 article: http://tinyurl.com/5hvzg3 I love the way they find a few discrepancies and declare that they were NOT made by humans. Going out on a limb I think. Perhaps they would be better off saying they were made by different methods, if that is indeed the case as the whole field (no pun) is riddled with TB crackpots. I'll believe their research when it gets accepted in the New Scientist journal. Which it would, any evidence of ETs or unknown earth powers would be world-shattering. I recommend NOT holding your breath though. Lord, dear Lord, preserve us from the New Scientism as our lodestar! Without wishing to start a rabbit, there IS something world-shattering going on right now and you are NOT reading about it in the NS. Viz. The current crisis in the predictions of climatology. The moral? When things really matter there is no Olympian cloud of superior, condescending detachment where one comfortably and reliably retire to park one's cute little/well-upholstered arse (delete as appropriate)
Re: [FairfieldLife] What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
Welcome to the group, Michael. Most of the time I spent in ff was in the 80s as well. $200 a month CCP and Purusha still around. It was the best time to be on campus. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] What's happening to the $3Billion empire? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 11:28 AM I just joined this site. Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89. I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew. Is the nephew the successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million cash stashed away in Swiss accounts? Did Bevin Morris inherit anything? Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina? What about Jeffrey Clemons and Byron P. Rigby? I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to have vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties it was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do something brilliant with the money? Is this not a mystery to anyone who knew this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive sums of cash? I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still exists. I see that it does still exist. The web-site is very professional, and the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500? The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide free tuition to thousands of students for decades. I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev. This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring. The ring was left on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges. MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger. Aparently, he figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as well be him. He loved the ring. He loved Guru Dev. Clearly, he wished to improve the world. Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies. Along with short hair and conservative attire. The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh. Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade? Well, we make the best choices we can given our consciousness at the time. I noticed that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden Dome attendence was not reversing the biological aging. And people were giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely wealthy. Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something completely different. I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these people. I would love to see more consciousness in the world. I still pursue consciousness. I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of having something conscious done with the three billion dollar empire. Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you. You're in a position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light on how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of trusties were dismissed. The good guys were replaced with robots so that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the swiss bank accounts. I know you know this. Why doesn't it bother you? Bevin, did you at least inherite a couple million? if not, you sold your soul for the price of spinach. And that should bother you. God Bless All... JGD, MJF To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
MJF, Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the movement. Without blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily become most important in the TMO - yet, concurrently, the TMO has become progressively irrelevant over the past three decades, especially since an All things Vedic theme , and a game of let's pretend we're Indians predominate in the TM culture now. Bevan may find himself the successor to MMY in terms of absolute authority, yet the degree of irrelevancy of the TMO will mean that his position of authority in the TMO won't count for much in the world at large. Oh, well.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just joined this site. Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89. I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew. Is the nephew the successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million cash stashed away in Swiss accounts? Did Bevin Morris inherit anything? Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina? What about Jeffrey Clemons and Byron P. Rigby? I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to have vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties it was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do something brilliant with the money? Is this not a mystery to anyone who knew this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive sums of cash? I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still exists. I see that it does still exist. The web-site is very professional, and the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500? The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide free tuition to thousands of students for decades. I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev. This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring. The ring was left on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges. MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger. Aparently, he figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as well be him. He loved the ring. He loved Guru Dev. Clearly, he wished to improve the world. Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies. Along with short hair and conservative attire. The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh. Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade? Well, we make the best choices we can given our consciousness at the time. I noticed that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden Dome attendence was not reversing the biological aging. And people were giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely wealthy. Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something completely different. I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these people. I would love to see more consciousness in the world. I still pursue consciousness. I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of having something conscious done with the three billion dollar empire. Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you. You're in a position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light on how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of trusties were dismissed. The good guys were replaced with robots so that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the swiss bank accounts. I know you know this. Why doesn't it bother you? Bevin, did you at least inherite a couple million? if not, you sold your soul for the price of spinach. And that should bother you. God Bless All... JGD, MJF
Re: [FairfieldLife] What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Michael James Flatley wrote: I just joined this site. Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89. I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew. Is the nephew the successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million cash stashed away in Swiss accounts? Did Bevin Morris inherit anything? Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina? What about Jeffrey Clemons and Byron P. Rigby? I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to have vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties it was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do something brilliant with the money? Is this not a mystery to anyone who knew this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive sums of cash? I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still exists. I see that it does still exist. The web-site is very professional, and the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500? The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide free tuition to thousands of students for decades. I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev. This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring. The ring was left on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges. MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger. Aparently, he figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as well be him. He loved the ring. He loved Guru Dev. Clearly, he wished to improve the world. Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies. Along with short hair and conservative attire. The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh. Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade? Well, we make the best choices we can given our consciousness at the time. I noticed that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden Dome attendence was not reversing the biological aging. And people were giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely wealthy. Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something completely different. I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these people. I would love to see more consciousness in the world. I still pursue consciousness. I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of having something conscious done with the three billion dollar empire. Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you. You're in a position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light on how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of trusties were dismissed. The good guys were replaced with robots so that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the swiss bank accounts. I know you know this. Why doesn't it bother you? Bevin, did you at least inherite a couple million? if not, you sold your soul for the price of spinach. And that should bother you. What is your source on MMY stealing the ringer off the corpse of Guru Dev? While it doesn't surprise me, I don't recall hearing that one before. Are you aware he was also a leading suspect in the murder of Guru Dev? There's been some recent discussion here that the money might be returning to India to his nephew Girish who controls the financial empire there. MUM just had it's largest class in many years, a lot of it people from foreign countries looking for a way into the US or jobs here. Plus there's been a lot of proselytizing from Donovan and David Lynch. Lynch along with Dr. Howard Settle are having to fund the sidhi program in FF to even get people to show up. Oh, and I guess you heard, the pundits finally showed up and were immediately enclosed in barbwire-surrounded digs. I'm pretty sure it was Vedic barbwire, so I wouldn't worry. :-)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mainstream20016 Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:20 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire? MJF, Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the movement. Without blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily become most important in the TMO - I would argue with the superior intellect part. He's a pretty brilliant guy, whatever else you may think of him.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA
On Jul 29, 2008, at 10:35 AM, authfriend wrote: I love the way they find a few discrepancies and declare that they were NOT made by humans. Actualy they declared that this one *was* made by humans. Wow, these guys are really sharp... Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the movement. Without blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily become most important in the TMO – I would argue with the “superior intellect” part. He’s a pretty brilliant guy, whatever else you may think of him. Really? JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick? I must admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to him, I was less than overwhelmed. Poor guy seemed completely lost without a script. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Here's the May 6 article: http://tinyurl.com/5hvzg3 I love the way they find a few discrepancies and declare that they were NOT made by humans. Actualy they declared that this one *was* made by humans. This is the bit from the article I was refering to. The crop circle is the second such phenomenon to manifest in the Rocky Springs Road area is as many years. Last May, a nine- circle Celtic Cross crop circle emerged in a nearby wheat field and following a multi-day investigation Wilson pronounced it definitely not manmade. He said his research focused on minute blow-outs of growth nodes on the wheat stems inside the circles, ruling that such an event could only come from inside the plant stems. You see that: Definitely not manmade So he feels confident enough to declare that and he *isn't* a crackpot? I'm not convinced. Any half decent scientist would say we don't know how this one was done, as it's the only fair statement of the facts. In any case, those few discrepancies (actually *quite* a few) between real and fake circles are very significant. To dismiss them out of hand is just ignorant. Maybe not, how would you know. Why do you always resort to insults when someone doesn't see things your way. I'm not even convinced that there are any differences yet, just because a bunch of people with an obvious alien intelligence axe to grind believe it. Going out on a limb I think. Perhaps they would be better off saying they were made by different methods, if that is indeed the case as the whole field (no pun) is riddled with TB crackpots. And yet no circle that has been acknowledged to have been made by humans has been found to show these characteristics; and even when humans are assigned the task of replicating them, they haven't been able to do so. Nor has anyone so far been able to suggest by what means they *could* be replicated. They aren't just different means, they're *unknown* means. (For those who haven't been following the discussion, many of these characteristics can be measured only by fairly sophisticated instruments; they have nothing to do with the patterns per se or with whether humans could have created these patterns with boards and rope.) As to the field being riddled with crackpots, that's very true, and it confuses the issue badly. But it's a mistake in logic to think that the crackpots are evidence that the whole thing is a scam. It raises the index of suspicion, but nothing more than that. Also, please note that the experts who debunked the current crop circle in Monroe County are obviously interested in distinguishing fake from real crop circles rather than oohing and ahhing over every new circle that's discovered. They're not TB crackpots, in other words. Hmmm Hmmm I'll believe their research when it gets accepted in the New Scientist journal. Which it would, any evidence of ETs or unknown earth powers would be world-shattering. The research done so far has not found evidence of ETs or unknown earth powers. What it's found, again, is characteristics of circles not known to be made by humans that are not seen in those known to be made by humans. I recommend NOT holding your breath though. I wouldn't recommend it either. Publications with a reputation to uphold are going to be extremely wary of writing about crop circles because of the common wisdom that the circles are all faked and that crop circle researchers are all crackpot TBs. In fact, evidence of anything world-shattering, in whatever field, is *unlikely* ever to appear in mainstream publications unless it becomes too concrete to be ignored (e.g., an alien spaceship landing on the White House lawn). If these discrepancies are proof of alien interference then it is as good as a space ship landing on the White House lawn. My feeling is they want to shut up about their alien theories and let the evidence speak for itself. Also, did you ever look at the Wikipedia article I cited on the Robertson Panel? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_Panel The article's neutrality has been disputed, but take a look at the Talk page to see what specifically is being disputed (not much) and then read around those flaws for the facts. I don't have time to read it all but I'm familiar with the UFO disinformation tactics. Don't blame them, the cold war was a dangerous time for people to be mistaking Russian aircraft for UFOs.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.monroebuzz.com/default.asp? sourceid=smenu=91twindow=Defaultmad=Nosdetail=446wpage=1skeyword = sidate=ccat=ccatm=restate=restatus=reoption=retype=repmin=repm ax =rebed=rebath=subname=pform=sc=2334hn=monroebuzzhe=.com Link seems not to work but the article was posted on 06. May.08 You really gotta learn to use TinyURL, Nabs. Here's the May 6 article: http://tinyurl.com/5hvzg3 I love the way they find a few discrepancies and declare that they were NOT made by humans. Going out on a limb I think. Perhaps they would be better off saying they were made by different methods, if that is indeed the case as the whole field (no pun) is riddled with TB crackpots. I'll believe their research when it gets accepted in the New Scientist journal. Which it would, any evidence of ETs or unknown earth powers would be world-shattering. I recommend NOT holding your breath though. Lord, dear Lord, preserve us from the New Scientism as our lodestar! Without wishing to start a rabbit, there IS something world-shattering going on right now and you are NOT reading about it in the NS. Viz. The current crisis in the predictions of climatology. The moral? When things really matter there is no Olympian cloud of superior, condescending detachment where one comfortably and reliably retire to park one's cute little/well-upholstered arse (delete as appropriate) What are you wittering on about? Are you a climate change sceptic? The NS devoted a whole issue to answering all the claims made by the bullshit Global Warming Swindle documentary. Killed it stone dead in fact, shame it isn't more widely read. I recommend a subscription: http://tinyurl.com/5v2efn
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:54 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire? On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the movement. Without blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily become most important in the TMO - I would argue with the superior intellect part. He's a pretty brilliant guy, whatever else you may think of him. Really? JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick? I must admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to him, I was less than overwhelmed. Poor guy seemed completely lost without a script. Well, there are different ways of assessing intellect, but having seen him interact with MMY, faculty, etc., I'd say he's got some chops. OTOH, he has a reputation as an insensitive thug, who governs with fear and intimidation, and whose visits to campus many faculty members dread.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:54 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire? On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the movement. Without blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily become most important in the TMO - I would argue with the superior intellect part. He's a pretty brilliant guy, whatever else you may think of him. Really? JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick? I must admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to him, I was less than overwhelmed. Poor guy seemed completely lost without a script. Well, there are different ways of assessing intellect, but having seen him interact with MMY, faculty, etc., I'd say he's got some chops. OTOH, he has a reputation as an insensitive thug, who governs with fear and intimidation, and whose visits to campus many faculty members dread. Hmm, really sounds like the age of enlightenment is upon us.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
Really? JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick? I must admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to him, I was less than overwhelmed. Poor guy seemed completely lost without a script. Maybe Bevan is so constantly on guard to not say anthing the TMO could construe as incorrect that he comes across to some people as slow-thinking. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 12:53 PM On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the movement. Without blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily become most important in the TMO – I would argue with the “superior intellect” part. He’s a pretty brilliant guy, whatever else you may think of him. Really? JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick? I must admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to him, I was less than overwhelmed. Poor guy seemed completely lost without a script. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These letter-similarities and linguistic derivations can be taken as elucidate language relationships but must not necessarily reveal any insights into the impact of mantras as such. Romantics regarding assumed holy meanings of so-called mantras seems to be okay but if not coping with consistency to its topic it will be an uncontrolled tool for nebulizing of to be properly comprehended consecutions and interrelations. Your understanding of human language and how people in certain regions evolve it incrementally seems poorly developed and unschooled. PS. If the Vedas and evolution is as fragile as you are claiming, here then we can forget the whole thing and close up the universe and go back to sleep. Nothing can stop the engulfing of man. OffWorld - Original Message - From: R.G. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God' (snip) No Coincidence: Jehova= JaiShiva Joshua = Jeshiwa= JaiShiwa Jesus = Jeshua = JaiShiwa Adam = Allahem = Adama (the undivided) = Atma = Allah = Eli = Elija OffWorld Ya, ya, das ist gut, ya
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
I agree with the assessment of Bevan's intellect. Bevan is where he is because he happened to be what MMY was looking for when MMY needed sidhi administrators. MMY wanted Canadians and an Australian for a group of administrators because he wanted them to be both British Victorian in bearing and less likely to be CIA. Bevan had the bearing and the Oxford education, without being from the demon serpent England. Over time, Bevan proved he was one of the few top persons in the TMO who would never take the limelight away from MMY, and so he lasted. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 1:10 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:54 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire? On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Bevan to date has played the game better than anyone in the movement. Without blood relation, personal wealth, or superior intellect, Bevan has steadily become most important in the TMO – I would argue with the “superior intellect” part. He’s a pretty brilliant guy, whatever else you may think of him. Really? JOOC, what makes you think so, Rick? I must admit, the very few times I had occasion to speak to him, I was less than overwhelmed. Poor guy seemed completely lost without a script. Well, there are different ways of assessing intellect, but having seen him interact with MMY, faculty, etc., I’d say he’s got some chops. OTOH, he has a reputation as an insensitive thug, who governs with fear and intimidation, and whose visits to campus many faculty members dread.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
On Jul 29, 2008, at 12:12 PM, gullible fool wrote: Maybe Bevan is so constantly on guard to not say anthing the TMO could construe as incorrect that he comes across to some people as slow-thinking. Well, I've just never actually seen any evidence, personal or otherwise, that he's brighter than average. HIs management of MUM speaks for itself, but somehow they always manage to pull through, despite, it would seem, Bevan's best efforts to run the place into the ground, or more to the point, let it flounder. And sure, I've seen him read speeches well that others have written, but even George Bush can do that. For that matter, so can Francis the Talking Donkey, and probably a lot better than either one. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Actualize the energy
Actualize the energy When you connect with a source of inspiration, you need to actualize it for today's world. If you try to reproduce ancient techniques within today's context they can often feel and be out of tune. When you connect with an ancient tradition, you can redesign or reinvent techniques without betraying the spirit of that tradition. You can be faithful to a tradition while allowing space for change and renewal of that stream http://vitalcoaching.com/babaji.htm
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gullible fool Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:22 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire? I agree with the assessment of Bevan's intellect. Bevan is where he is because he happened to be what MMY was looking for when MMY needed sidhi administrators. MMY wanted Canadians and an Australian for a group of administrators because he wanted them to be both British Victorian in bearing and less likely to be CIA. Bevan had the bearing and the Oxford education, without being from the demon serpent England. Over time, Bevan proved he was one of the few top persons in the TMO who would never take the limelight away from MMY, and so he lasted. I heard that when MMY sent Bevan to Cambridge to get his MA, he became the top student. That says something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
On Jul 29, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I heard that when MMY sent Bevan to Cambridge to get his MA, he became the top student. That says something. Sure, and remember how we also heard that GWB got better grades in college than Al Gore? His mother said so, and she wouldn't...lie, would she? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Actualize the energy
Actualize the energy When you connect with a source of inspiration, you need to actualize it for today's world. If you try to reproduce ancient techniques within today's context they can often feel and be out of tune. When you connect with an ancient tradition, you can redesign or reinvent techniques without betraying the spirit of that tradition. You can be faithful to a tradition while allowing space for change and renewal of that stream http://vitalcoaching.com/babaji.htm
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
Oops, I remembered it as Oxford. Thanks for the correction, Rick. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about Cambridge: The University of Cambridge (often Cambridge University), located in Cambridge, England, is the second-oldest university in the English-speaking world. It is regarded as one of the world's leading academic institutions. Academically, Cambridge is consistently ranked in the world's top 5 universities.[6][7] It has traditionally been an academic institution of choice of the Royal Family (King Edward VII, King George VI, Prince Henry of Gloucester, Prince William of Gloucester and Edinburgh and Prince Charles were all undergraduates) and has produced 82 Nobel Laureates to date. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Cambridge Bevan also came to the only slightly less distinguished TM Center of Cambridge, the one time home to Vedic Atom Rick Archer. Unlike most high-up visitors who were in town for a short trip, Bevan actually did his sidhis program with us. I did not know MMY sent Bevan to get the MA. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 1:31 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gullible fool Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:22 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire? I agree with the assessment of Bevan's intellect. Bevan is where he is because he happened to be what MMY was looking for when MMY needed sidhi administrators. MMY wanted Canadians and an Australian for a group of administrators because he wanted them to be both British Victorian in bearing and less likely to be CIA. Bevan had the bearing and the Oxford education, without being from the demon serpent England. Over time, Bevan proved he was one of the few top persons in the TMO who would never take the limelight away from MMY, and so he lasted. I heard that when MMY sent Bevan to Cambridge to get his MA, he became the top student. That says something.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
Gore's roomy at Harvard was actor Tommy Lee Jones. Be interesting to know if Bevan had a roommate at Cambridge, and if so, where that bloke ended up. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 1:35 PM On Jul 29, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I heard that when MMY sent Bevan to Cambridge to get his MA, he became the top student. That says something. Sure, and remember how we also heard that GWB got better grades in college than Al Gore? His mother said so, and she wouldn't...lie, would she? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
'Haven't we already been through this cycle, with The Beatles, And Maharishi alegedly, 'using The Beatles', For some publicity purpose... Could this have anything to do with 'Give unto Caesar what is Caesars? Perhaps, it's just all maya? He's like from India, and the Brits and Americans have been draining these economies? Um, let's see, well, hard to figure? r.g. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Michael James Flatley wrote: I just joined this site. Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89. I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew. Is the nephew the successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million cash stashed away in Swiss accounts? Did Bevin Morris inherit anything? Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina? What about Jeffrey Clemons and Byron P. Rigby? I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to have vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties it was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do something brilliant with the money? Is this not a mystery to anyone who knew this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive sums of cash? I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still exists. I see that it does still exist. The web-site is very professional, and the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500? The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide free tuition to thousands of students for decades. I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev. This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring. The ring was left on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges. MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger. Aparently, he figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as well be him. He loved the ring. He loved Guru Dev. Clearly, he wished to improve the world. Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies. Along with short hair and conservative attire. The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh. Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade? Well, we make the best choices we can given our consciousness at the time. I noticed that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden Dome attendence was not reversing the biological aging. And people were giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely wealthy. Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something completely different. I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these people. I would love to see more consciousness in the world. I still pursue consciousness. I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of having something conscious done with the three billion dollar empire. Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you. You're in a position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light on how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of trusties were dismissed. The good guys were replaced with robots so that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the swiss bank accounts. I know you know this. Why doesn't it bother you? Bevin, did you at least inherite a couple million? if not, you sold your soul for the price of spinach. And that should bother you. What is your source on MMY stealing the ringer off the corpse of Guru Dev? While it doesn't surprise me, I don't recall hearing that one before. Are you aware he was also a leading suspect in the murder of Guru Dev? There's been some recent discussion here that the money might be returning to India to his nephew Girish who controls the financial empire there. MUM just had it's largest class in many years, a lot of it people from foreign countries looking for a way into the US or jobs here. Plus there's been a lot of proselytizing from Donovan and David Lynch. Lynch along with Dr. Howard Settle are having to fund the sidhi program in FF to even get people to show up. Oh, and I guess you heard, the pundits finally showed up and were immediately enclosed in barbwire-surrounded digs. I'm pretty sure it was Vedic barbwire, so I wouldn't worry. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gore's roomy at Harvard was actor Tommy Lee Jones. Be interesting to know if Bevan had a roommate at Cambridge, and if so, where that bloke ended up. Not to get all horror movie on you or anything, but based on the bulk, there is some possibility he ended up inside Bevan.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Diamond Ring
Source: Kaplan brothers, David and Earl. Maharishi admitted to them. Also: Dr Ken Castle
[FairfieldLife] 'Where is God?'
The last conversation discussed 'Names of God'... And there was found to be no name of God, Or 10,000's of names... I do recall Maharishi saying that God was located at the 'Finest Relative... And when one had the transcendent quality of consciousness, that one would begin to want to refine the perception, for understanding and for attunement to the 'Higher Power', your 'Higher Self'... So, at the finest level, all these qualities of God, can be revealed. I believe the atmosphere that attracted so many students to Maharishi, Was his Darshan, which reflected this quality of finest relative, and his own realizations of God... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Are you aware he was also a leading suspect in the murder of Guru Dev? Vaj makes this assertion as though it were an established fact, but of course it isn't, as he knows. There were rumors at the time that Guru Dev had been poisoned, but they never rose to the level of any official investigation, so to say MMY was the leading suspect is considerably less than the truth. When a public figure dies suddenly and unexpectedly, there are always dark rumors that foul play was involved, and it was no different with Guru Dev. But there was never any evidence to that effect, much less that MMY dunnit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with the assessment of Bevan's intellect. Bevan is where he is because he happened to be what MMY was looking for when MMY needed sidhi administrators. MMY wanted Canadians and an Australian for a group of administrators because he wanted them to be both British Victorian in bearing and less likely to be CIA. Bevan had the bearing and the Oxford education, without being from the demon serpent England. Over time, Bevan proved he was one of the few top persons in the TMO who would never take the limelight away from MMY, and so he lasted. Why do you mention the CIA? What's up with the real deal here? Who would have been behind someone investigating Maharish? Pray tell, what's up with these remarks regarding the CIA? R.G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
Incrimental development seems to be in your conception a coming close to 1 : 1 event in every state of unfoldment. Like as if turning itself to a big copy out of a small one, but looking basically the same. This is just wrong and against daily experience. Your theory sounds very simplifying and fundemtalistic, as if being always afraid of loosing the putative homeliness of a pictographic sight. It reminds me to the colourful pictures of haunting children's books, which seem to make the world become clearly arrangable. But the (human) unfoldment in contrast takes place so that every segment of its evolution represents a completely different reality. Look through what states of evolution as fish and reptile you have already been going in the womb, and all and above I think you will not want to directly compare your childhood-experiences 1 : 1 to those you have been gathering now as an adult as well. Maharishi in his commentary to the Bhagavadgita even confirms this fundamental insight by stating that each higher state of consciousness was based on a completely different quality of reality and could not be taken merely as a finer extension of the preceding one. Hagen - Original Message - From: off_world_beings To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These letter-similarities and linguistic derivations can be taken as elucidate language relationships but must not necessarily reveal any insights into the impact of mantras as such. Romantics regarding assumed holy meanings of so-called mantras seems to be okay but if not coping with consistency to its topic it will be an uncontrolled tool for nebulizing of to be properly comprehended consecutions and interrelations. Your understanding of human language and how people in certain regions evolve it incrementally seems poorly developed and unschooled. PS. If the Vedas and evolution is as fragile as you are claiming, here then we can forget the whole thing and close up the universe and go back to sleep. Nothing can stop the engulfing of man. OffWorld - Original Message - From: R.G. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God' (snip) No Coincidence: Jehova= JaiShiva Joshua = Jeshiwa= JaiShiwa Jesus = Jeshua = JaiShiwa Adam = Allahem = Adama (the undivided) = Atma = Allah = Eli = Elija OffWorld Ya, ya, das ist gut, ya
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Where is God?'
But Maharishi for sure did not say, in order to reach this finest level, you may take any seemingly good vehicle coming along out of your own religious tradition. Otherwise he could have easily recommended that all Christians for reason to get best result ought to be initiated into Jesus as their ultimate mantra. Hagen - Original Message - From: R.G. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Where is God?' ._,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael James Flatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just joined this site. Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89. I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew. Is the nephew the successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million cash stashed away in Swiss accounts? Did Bevin Morris inherit anything? Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina? What about Jeffrey Clemons and Byron P. Rigby? I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to have vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties it was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do something brilliant with the money? Is this not a mystery to anyone who knew this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive sums of cash? I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still exists. I see that it does still exist. The web-site is very professional, and the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500? The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide free tuition to thousands of students for decades. I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev. This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring. The ring was left on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges. MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger. Aparently, he figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as well be him. This is the most absurd accusation of MMY I've heard on this group yet, MMY dove in after the ring?...Mr. Flatly you just blew your cover, you sound like just another run of the mill MMY detractor. I believe Guru Dev was buried in concrete before being lowered into the Ganges anyway and MMY's monies were raised for the World Peace Fund to perpetuate the Siddhis program. He loved the ring. He loved Guru Dev. Clearly, he wished to improve the world. Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies. Along with short hair and conservative attire. The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh. Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade? Well, we make the best choices we can given our consciousness at the time. I noticed that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden Dome attendence was not reversing the biological aging. And people were giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely wealthy. Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something completely different. I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these people. I would love to see more consciousness in the world. I still pursue consciousness. I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of having something conscious done with the three billion dollar empire. Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you. You're in a position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light on how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of trusties were dismissed. The good guys were replaced with robots so that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the swiss bank accounts. I know you know this. Why doesn't it bother you? Bevin, did you at least inherite a couple million? if not, you sold your soul for the price of spinach. And that should bother you. God Bless All... JGD, MJF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Here's the May 6 article: http://tinyurl.com/5hvzg3 I love the way they find a few discrepancies and declare that they were NOT made by humans. Actualy they declared that this one *was* made by humans. This is the bit from the article I was refering to. Yes, you got it backward. The current one is human- made; they think the one last year wasn't. The crop circle is the second such phenomenon to manifest in the Rocky Springs Road area is as many years. Last May, a nine-circle Celtic Cross crop circle emerged in a nearby wheat field and following a multi-day investigation Wilson pronounced it definitely not manmade. He said his research focused on minute blow-outs of growth nodes on the wheat stems inside the circles, ruling that such an event could only come from inside the plant stems. You see that: Definitely not manmade So he feels confident enough to declare that and he *isn't* a crackpot? I'm not convinced. Any half decent scientist would say we don't know how this one was done, as it's the only fair statement of the facts. Fair enough, but I think what he's saying is that the earlier one had characteristics that none of the ones known to be made by humans have. In any case, those few discrepancies (actually *quite* a few) between real and fake circles are very significant. To dismiss them out of hand is just ignorant. Maybe not, how would you know. Why do you always resort to insults when someone doesn't see things your way. You show no signs of being acquainted with the evidence for the characteristics in question. I call that ignorance. I'm not even convinced that there are any differences yet, just because a bunch of people with an obvious alien intelligence axe to grind believe it. See, you just demonstrated your ignorance again. The BLT researchers are the ones who have found the differences (and published them in peer- reviewed journals), and they do *not* have an alien intelligence axe to grind. Going out on a limb I think. Perhaps they would be better off saying they were made by different methods, if that is indeed the case as the whole field (no pun) is riddled with TB crackpots. And yet no circle that has been acknowledged to have been made by humans has been found to show these characteristics; and even when humans are assigned the task of replicating them, they haven't been able to do so. Nor has anyone so far been able to suggest by what means they *could* be replicated. They aren't just different means, they're *unknown* means. No comment from you on this, I see. snip I'll believe their research when it gets accepted in the New Scientist journal. Which it would, any evidence of ETs or unknown earth powers would be world-shattering. The research done so far has not found evidence of ETs or unknown earth powers. What it's found, again, is characteristics of circles not known to be made by humans that are not seen in those known to be made by humans. I recommend NOT holding your breath though. I wouldn't recommend it either. Publications with a reputation to uphold are going to be extremely wary of writing about crop circles because of the common wisdom that the circles are all faked and that crop circle researchers are all crackpot TBs. In fact, evidence of anything world-shattering, in whatever field, is *unlikely* ever to appear in mainstream publications unless it becomes too concrete to be ignored (e.g., an alien spaceship landing on the White House lawn). If these discrepancies are proof of alien interference then it is as good as a space ship landing on the White House lawn. I just got done pointing out that the discrepancies are *not* proof of alien interference. You seem to be having trouble following the thread here. snip Also, did you ever look at the Wikipedia article I cited on the Robertson Panel? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_Panel The article's neutrality has been disputed, but take a look at the Talk page to see what specifically is being disputed (not much) and then read around those flaws for the facts. I don't have time to read it all but I'm familiar with the UFO disinformation tactics. Don't blame them, the cold war was a dangerous time for people to be mistaking Russian aircraft for UFOs. Sure. So what makes you think they didn't have similar concerns about crop circles, especially given, as you yourself noted, that so many of them seem to be in the vicinity of military installations?
[FairfieldLife] Re: I now believe that crop circles were created by aliens!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 29, 2008, at 9:32 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: As difficult as it is for me to say this, I was wuh...wuh...wuh...wrong. Aliens ARE responsible for crop circles. There is now not the slightest doubt in my mind of this. I am a True Believer. The piece of evidence that revealed my lamentable prior state of ignorance and brought me to the light is clickable below. When I saw this image, I knew instantly that nothing human could have created -- or even imagined -- anything this hideous. It HAS to have been created by aliens. http://tinyurl.com/592cka Man, Barry, you *are* evil! Are you sure you're not an alien yourself? Proves my point, of course, of how easy it is to fake this stuff. Er, no. What it proves is that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a Photoshopped photo and a real one if your life depended on it. BTW, you should ask Barry to show you the Photoshopped photos of this formation at ground level. snicker
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Diamond Ring
On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Michael James Flatley wrote: Source: Kaplan brothers, David and Earl. Maharishi admitted to them. Also: Dr Ken Castle I don't know about you, but that just creeps me out. The Kaplan's also claimed that the reason Mahesh wanted students to learn to cultivate the siddhis was that this caused a well-known blockage in the subtle nervous systems of the practitioners, not only effectively preventing enlightenment, but placing them in a kind of limbo that made them essentially TM Zombies (there's a movie waiting to be made :-)). This comes as no surprise since cultivation of siddhis are considered almost universally bad juju. I understand the Kaplan's actually did a good amount research on leaving the TMO in India. It sure what be interesting--possibly amazing--to hear what some of their other objective findings were. They were very brave to do what they did.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incrimental development seems to be in your conception a coming close to 1 : 1 event in every state of unfoldment. Like as if turning itself to a big copy out of a small one, but looking basically the same. This is just wrong and against daily experience. Your theory sounds very simplifying and fundemtalistic, as if being always afraid of loosing the putative homeliness of a pictographic sight. It reminds me to the colourful pictures of haunting children's books, which seem to make the world become clearly arrangable. But the (human) unfoldment in contrast takes place so that every segment of its evolution represents a completely different reality. Look through what states of evolution as fish and reptile you have already been going in the womb, and all and above I think you will not want to directly compare your childhood-experiences 1 : 1 to those you have been gathering now as an adult as well. Maharishi in his commentary to the Bhagavadgita even confirms this fundamental insight by stating that each higher state of consciousness was based on a completely different quality of reality and could not be taken merely as a finer extension of the preceding one. Hagen I'm not sure what you are talking about. I was talking about transcending, and using mantras for the purpose of transcending... As well, in addition to transcending, a way to explore the finest relative, based in higher vibrations of sound and light, which is located at the finest level. We learn this with the Sidhis, and the concept that 'God' works... Or 'Natural Law' , 'Works', at the quietest, most subtle levels. That is why Obama is getting so much accomplished, Because he knows how to work at the subtlest level. We are moving from the literal 'Gross!!!' To a finer level of reality, the collective consciousness, Of the entire planet, on all levels, Releasing much Karma, individual and collective, Especially when the finer realms are activated by direct experience... This makes it easier for everyone else to activate the 'Light of Consciousness' So, let go and let God. Take it as it comes. Be Still and Know That I am God. Give Peace a Chance. Add your own advice... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Where is God?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Maharishi for sure did not say, in order to reach this finest level, you may take any seemingly good vehicle coming along out of your own religious tradition. Otherwise he could have easily recommended that all Christians for reason to get best result ought to be initiated into Jesus as their ultimate mantra. Hagen I was not saying anything about Jesus being the ultimate anything. I was saying for those who wish to explore the finer levels of Jesus, Might expect to use the name/form formula, like they do in Sanskrit. We eventually find out, that everything is God. There is no differentiation. But there are different inspirations, which they use... In Sanskrit, Ganesha, Vishnu, Brahma, Rama, Saraswati, devas, angels, So many beings at the finer levels... No one is superior or inferior, It's not about that. It's about find God. For yourself. R.G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I now believe that crop circles were created by aliens!
On Jul 29, 2008, at 1:32 PM, authfriend wrote: Man, Barry, you *are* evil! Are you sure you're not an alien yourself? Proves my point, of course, of how easy it is to fake this stuff. Er, no. What it proves is that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a Photoshopped photo and a real one if your life depended on it. BTW, you should ask Barry to show you the Photoshopped photos of this formation at ground level. Yeah, Judy, in all those PSed pics I saw, you just can't miss the people walking around in them. Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Diamond Ring
On Jul 29, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Vaj wrote: The Kaplan's also claimed that the reason Mahesh wanted students to learn to cultivate the siddhis was that this caused a well-known blockage in the subtle nervous systems of the practitioners, not only effectively preventing enlightenment, but placing them in a kind of limbo that made them essentially TM Zombies (there's a movie waiting to be made :-)). Invasion of the Mantra Snatchers Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
On Jul 29, 2008, at 2:12 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Are you aware he was also a leading suspect in the murder of Guru Dev? Vaj makes this assertion as though it were an established fact, but of course it isn't, as he knows. There were rumors at the time that Guru Dev had been poisoned, but they never rose to the level of any official investigation, so to say MMY was the leading suspect is considerably less than the truth. When a public figure dies suddenly and unexpectedly, there are always dark rumors that foul play was involved, and it was no different with Guru Dev. But there was never any evidence to that effect, much less that MMY dunnit. Actually it was from one of Guru Dev's direct students, so take it as you will. Knowing I was a student of TM (at the time), it was conveyed to me in very gentle and apologetic terms. Of course, what's bizarre is that the type of person who would kill their guru--or at least be complicit in the murder--would probably not think twice about taking the ring off the finger of their teachers dead body. It brings a new twist to the saying scraping the bottom. Yet another bizarre twist in this whole possibility was Mahesh's paranoia about being poisoned himself. What was that about? Guilty conscience? We'll never know so it is good that, for histories sake, we at least know from several sources, that M. would stoop as low as to steal the jewelry off his dead masters corpse. It speaks volumes.
[FairfieldLife] Wow! Never-before-seen crop circles sited in China!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
I am fully agreeing to what you state now further on. But the question was much earlier in the discussion, whether any good mantra coming along like Jeshua or Jesus or whatever it was, would lead to the same or even enhanced effect of transcending in comparison to TM. And my answer to it was clearly no, because such an opinion would not allow us to take any recourse to the reality of the very mechanisms of mantras, which cannot be chosen or evaluated on the basis of good feelings along with them or because of any subjective emotional attributes like holiness or so. The procedure on the other hand is much more jejune. - Original Message - From: R.G. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incrimental development seems to be in your conception a coming close to 1 : 1 event in every state of unfoldment. Like as if turning itself to a big copy out of a small one, but looking basically the same. This is just wrong and against daily experience. Your theory sounds very simplifying and fundemtalistic, as if being always afraid of loosing the putative homeliness of a pictographic sight. It reminds me to the colourful pictures of haunting children's books, which seem to make the world become clearly arrangable. But the (human) unfoldment in contrast takes place so that every segment of its evolution represents a completely different reality. Look through what states of evolution as fish and reptile you have already been going in the womb, and all and above I think you will not want to directly compare your childhood-experiences 1 : 1 to those you have been gathering now as an adult as well. Maharishi in his commentary to the Bhagavadgita even confirms this fundamental insight by stating that each higher state of consciousness was based on a completely different quality of reality and could not be taken merely as a finer extension of the preceding one. Hagen I'm not sure what you are talking about. I was talking about transcending, and using mantras for the purpose of transcending... As well, in addition to transcending, a way to explore the finest relative, based in higher vibrations of sound and light, which is located at the finest level. We learn this with the Sidhis, and the concept that 'God' works... Or 'Natural Law' , 'Works', at the quietest, most subtle levels. That is why Obama is getting so much accomplished, Because he knows how to work at the subtlest level. We are moving from the literal 'Gross!!!' To a finer level of reality, the collective consciousness, Of the entire planet, on all levels, Releasing much Karma, individual and collective, Especially when the finer realms are activated by direct experience... This makes it easier for everyone else to activate the 'Light of Consciousness' So, let go and let God. Take it as it comes. Be Still and Know That I am God. Give Peace a Chance. Add your own advice... R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Michael James Flatley wrote: I just joined this site. Lived in Fairfield from '78 - -'89. I understand MMY had only one relative, a nephew. Is the nephew the successor to the organization, and inheritor to the $900 million cash stashed away in Swiss accounts? Did Bevin Morris inherit anything? Whatever happened to Greg and Georgina? What about Jeffrey Clemons and Byron P. Rigby? I think he has 2 nephews. King Tony Nader is the closest to a successor in terms of authority, though who knows who controls all the money. I doubt any individual inherited any money. Greg was in canada fleecing sidhas for Governors Corp before it went bankrupt - I hear he's still there in some kind of business. I could never figure out why it was so important to Maharishi to have vast amounts of cash in Swiss accounts into his eighties it was obvious he was near the end of his life... why not do something brilliant with the money? Is this not a mystery to anyone who knew this man well, and knew how hard he strived to accumulate massive sums of cash? I heard he ran afoul of the swiss bank authorities and pulled out of there. The big movt trusts are offshore British now, though they may just be conduits into Indian accounts. It is a mystery to anyone who thinks about it why mmy was obsessed with raising money till the end even though he had plenty, but most sidhas in the tmo don't think about it or actually believe the mov't was really broke. I checked the web-site for MUM to see if the school still exists. I see that it does still exist. The web-site is very professional, and the programs look good do they still have enrollment at 500? MUM exists by attracting Africans into their business and computer programs - they get loans and a degree that leads to a green card so it's popular. They used to get a fair amount of indians and chinese but they wised up as to the quality. Very few 20-something americans go to school there. The $900,000,000 USD in Swiss banks would be enough to provide free tuition to thousands of students for decades. I also learned that MMY treasured the diamond ring from Guru Dev. This is strange: Guru Dev never gave him the ring. The ring was left on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges. MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger. Aparently, he figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as well be him. He loved the ring. He loved Guru Dev. Clearly, he wished to improve the world. Yes but even ruthless dictators want to improve the world in their own way - the question is why did mmy run the mov't into the ground by turning it into a silly cult, turn a blind eye to the lack of progress among his followers and hoard all the money? Clearly, meditation was beneficial to hippies. Along with short hair and conservative attire. It's true that young people with drug and other major problems probably benefited from their association with tm and mmy. TM was generally good for me, but the sidhis and the mov't itself were the worst things I've ever done for my physical, emotional and mental health. Jesus fundamentalism may have gotten Bush off the whiskey, but that doesn't make it a great spiritual path for all. The White Album is a great album composed mostly in Rishikesh. Getting sucked into a cult for more than a decade? Well, we make the best choices we can given our consciousness at the time. I noticed that Sidhas were not building more awareness. A decade of Golden Dome attendence was not reversing the biological aging. And people were giving too much money to Maharishi who was already extremely wealthy. Something just wasn't right... and I was ready for something completely different. I am grateful to have made wonderful friends, and I miss these people. I would love to see more consciousness in the world. I still pursue consciousness. I'm posting here to inquire about the possibility of having something conscious done with the three billion dollar empire. Don't hold your breath - the people who control the empire are totally devout to MMY and will pursue similar paths with similar energy. Bevin, if you read this, I would like to hear from you. You're in a position to disclose a lot of truth, and possibly shed some light on how everything started getting cooky when the origonal board of trusties were dismissed. The good guys were replaced with robots so that a portion of our tuition money could be diverted into the swiss bank accounts. I know you know this. Why doesn't it bother you? Bevan thinks people who come to this site are going to hell. Bevan was the chief robot put in charge when the sane board got dismissed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Where is God?'
I think we start to turn in circles and you slowly tergiversate. In order to achieve the finer aspects of Jesus, apart from the question, what the sense of such intention should be, using his name for such purpose would most probably not be applicable. That is what I meant with a 1 : 1 view. You conclude: If shiva leads to the absolute (apart from the question, whether he does, because the word shiva is normally not a typical mantra for transcending into silence) then Jesus must lead to higher Jesus or God or whatever. If this was so, then meditating on the word Einstein would possibly lead to the recognition of his theories or the other way round :-))). Hagen - Original Message - From: R.G. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Where is God?' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But Maharishi for sure did not say, in order to reach this finest level, you may take any seemingly good vehicle coming along out of your own religious tradition. Otherwise he could have easily recommended that all Christians for reason to get best result ought to be initiated into Jesus as their ultimate mantra. Hagen I was not saying anything about Jesus being the ultimate anything. I was saying for those who wish to explore the finer levels of Jesus, Might expect to use the name/form formula, like they do in Sanskrit. We eventually find out, that everything is God. There is no differentiation. But there are different inspirations, which they use... In Sanskrit, Ganesha, Vishnu, Brahma, Rama, Saraswati, devas, angels, So many beings at the finer levels... No one is superior or inferior, It's not about that. It's about find God. For yourself. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle in the USA
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M compost1uk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.monroebuzz.com/default.asp? sourceid=smenu=91twindow=Defaultmad=Nosdetail=446wpage=1skeyword = sidate=ccat=ccatm=restate=restatus=reoption=retype=repmin=repm ax =rebed=rebath=subname=pform=sc=2334hn=monroebuzzhe=.com Link seems not to work but the article was posted on 06. May.08 You really gotta learn to use TinyURL, Nabs. Here's the May 6 article: http://tinyurl.com/5hvzg3 I love the way they find a few discrepancies and declare that they were NOT made by humans. Going out on a limb I think. Perhaps they would be better off saying they were made by different methods, if that is indeed the case as the whole field (no pun) is riddled with TB crackpots. I'll believe their research when it gets accepted in the New Scientist journal. Which it would, any evidence of ETs or unknown earth powers would be world-shattering. I recommend NOT holding your breath though. Lord, dear Lord, preserve us from the New Scientism as our lodestar! Without wishing to start a rabbit, there IS something world-shattering going on right now and you are NOT reading about it in the NS. Viz. The current crisis in the predictions of climatology. The moral? When things really matter there is no Olympian cloud of superior, condescending detachment where one comfortably and reliably retire to park one's cute little/well-upholstered arse (delete as appropriate) What are you wittering on about? Are you a climate change sceptic? The NS devoted a whole issue to answering all the claims made by the bullshit Global Warming Swindle documentary. Killed it stone dead in fact, shame it isn't more widely read. I recommend a subscription: http://tinyurl.com/5v2efn Did I refer to what you call the bullshit Global Warming Swindle documentary? Are you being perhaps a tad presumptions in recommending a subscription? Do you have to hunt around to find a bag for me - climate change sceptic - before you can train your batteries on your target with recycled ammunition? In any case why be coy? What's wrong with denier? Killed it stone dead in fact. Really? What a simple landscape of certainty you inhabit! I mentioned a crisis in climatology, which has set you off. I meant that in the same way that is well described in Kuhn's work on the nature of scientific revolutions. Despite your presumption, that does not mean that I have taken a side on the issue, such as when one supports a favourite sports team come hell or high water. Because I have a bit of a trainspotters's interest in some of this stuff, I believe I am aware of the difficulties the AGW theory (theory of human caused warming) is facing at the moment whereas you are not. The fact that your best guess as to the source of these difficulties is a UK TV documentary is evidence for my point: you are relying too heavily on the New Scientist (my original point). No it's not a TV program that lies behind the crisis. Rather, it's the best efforts being made at the moment to make sense of the planet's global temperature data. These data are not showing a current trend that supports the theory. And it's becoming a classic episode in Science: What do you do? Throw out the AGW theory as falsified? Is there something wrong with the recalcitrant data? It's getting very interesting if you like that sort of thing and I'm afraid I do. But that's only if you're prepared to put your preconceived, received notions aside and look at the facts dispassionately and in a way that means you could be swayed by the arguments either way. I don't think you are (but I sure as hell know you like to think you are! But my man you've got to walk the walk and not just talk the talk). Disappointingly you will find that from this stance, should you adopt it, neither side of the argument just gets killed stone dead as you put it, as in some arcade game. Which brings us back to New Scientist. If that glossy magazine was half it was cracked up to be there would be a wealth of information on this stuff (especially recently) that you, as a reader, would be familiar with. As a subscriber myself, I know you will not be. I am sure you would be interested in it if it wasn't kept from you. For a *science* magazine to attempt to regulate debate in such a way is appalling (especially so to those who really love the values of science). It is depressing to see the way post-modern science may be heading. Here's the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
Not to get all horror movie on you or anything, but based on the bulk, there is some possibility he ended up inside Bevan. Funny, but that would have had to happen years after their time together at Cambridge. When Bevan visited my sidhis course in September 1977, he was as svelte-looking as the 60's Beatles. Whether the weight was from the sidhis program messing up his metabolism, or from the stress of his position (a common TB belief), we'll never know. ...but mountain doesn't move! --- On Tue, 7/29/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 2:09 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gore's roomy at Harvard was actor Tommy Lee Jones. Be interesting to know if Bevan had a roommate at Cambridge, and if so, where that bloke ended up. Not to get all horror movie on you or anything, but based on the bulk, there is some possibility he ended up inside Bevan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Letter to My Former Guru...the Maharishi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh'boy, the Buddists are really getting upset about the TM success these days
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pentagon's Brave New World
Vaj wrote: Operating with little ethical oversight, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) has been tapping cutting-edge advances in neuroscience, computers and robotics in a quest to build the 'perfect warfighter.' Dovetailing precisely with other projects to 'dominate' the urban 'battlespace' of global south and 'homeland' cities, DARPA researchers are stretching moral boundaries where clear distinctions between 'human' and 'machine' are being consciously blurred. As the Center for Cognitive Liberty Ethics warns, 'The right of a person to liberty, autonomy, and privacy over his or her own intellect is situated at the core of what it means to be a free person. This principle is what gives life to some of our most well-established and cherished rights. Today, as new drugs and other technologies are being developed for augmenting, monitoring, and manipulating mental processes, it is more important than ever to ensure that our legal system recognizes and protects cognitive liberty as a fundamental right.' (CCLE, Frequently Asked Questions, September 15, 2003) Not only is the right to 'liberty, autonomy, and privacy' being undermined by militarizing the life sciences, but the legal system itself is ill-equipped to deal with advances--and emerging threats--to 'cognitive liberty' as America's corporatist surveillance state seek new means to elicit compliance and control over individuals as biological science is securitized under the rubric of 'national security.' Full article at: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=vaaid=9701 So what is it they're afraid of that they are doing this for? Urban battlespace where? Baghdad, Tehran, Kabul or Des Moines? Best to rise up against them and hope for some foreign assistance rather than live under their dark reign.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is making Buddist fundamentalists like Vaj and the so- called Turk so very active at this point ? The Dalai Lama holding hands with Mr. McCain published worldwide ? The uprising among Buddhist monks in Burma ? The surge of Crop Circles ridiculed by the same, or more likely; a general rise in world consciousness ? Me thinks the latter. Please exspect even more desperate and coordinated attempts from well known Buddhists to try to sow dissention. Since more and more individuals are beginning to live the fruit of Maharishis knowledge, these kinds of simple attacks from simpeltons will naturally follow.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Letter to My Former Guru...the Maharishi
On Jul 29, 2008, at 3:37 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh'boy, the Buddists are really getting upset about the TM success these days Good joke Nabby!
[FairfieldLife] Re: I now believe that crop circles were created by aliens!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 29, 2008, at 1:32 PM, authfriend wrote: Man, Barry, you *are* evil! Are you sure you're not an alien yourself? Proves my point, of course, of how easy it is to fake this stuff. Er, no. What it proves is that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a Photoshopped photo and a real one if your life depended on it. BTW, you should ask Barry to show you the Photoshopped photos of this formation at ground level. Yeah, Judy, in all those PSed pics I saw, you just can't miss the people walking around in them. There are *zillions* of ground-level photos of people walking around in the circles. There are lots and lots of *videos* shot at ground level of people walking around in the circles. I know the notion that there aren't really any crop circles, just fake Photoshopped pictures, makes you feel more safe and secure, Sal, and if you really need to live in that kind of fantasy world, it's fine with me. If you can get up your courage to bust out of that fantasy, though, I'll be happy to give you some links. But it'll have to wait, because this is my 50th post for the week, and I'm going out of town; not sure exactly when I'll be back, maybe Sunday.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Jesus, Mantra of God'
God doesn't have a name... off wrote: God has 10,000 names. God only appears to have a name.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I now believe that crop circles were created by aliens!
On Jul 29, 2008, at 3:23 PM, authfriend wrote: There are *zillions* of ground-level photos of people walking around in the circles. In *those* circles, Judy, the obviously PSed ones. There are lots and lots of *videos* shot at ground level of people walking around in the circles. See above. I know the notion that there aren't really any crop circles, just fake Photoshopped pictures, makes you feel more safe and secure, Sal, and if you really need to live in that kind of fantasy world, it's fine with me. Yeah, Judy, the idea of crap circles is just so terrifying I need to retreat into fantasy at the mere thought. If you can get up your courage to bust out of that fantasy, though, I'll be happy to give you some links. But it'll have to wait, because this is my 50th post for the week, and I'm going out of town; not sure exactly when I'll be back, maybe Sunday. I've looked at the links you've already posted, Judy--no sale. Have a good trip. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Flip Cam
I have found my video camera, it's so small and light, there are no plugs or cords, it takes great videos, no tracers, no little pixel smudges and the lighting is great. I took one outside at dusk and it looks nice. This thing records twice as long as my bulky handycam and I don't have to format any disks or plug in a bunch of stuff. The picture quality of the Ultra Flip videos is really amazing, my other cameras (handycam, Creative labs, the onboard Vaio and VIJE) do not hold a candle to the Flips quality. I'll be using it for video projects. I am very happy with the Ultra Flip and will be bringing it along with me for a family visit. I recommend it! Yes, I flipped for it! - Gina Miller Read more Amazon reviews: 'Flip Video Ultra Series Camcorder' Amazon $116.49 http://tinyurl.com/3aglsy Munger took the camera with him when he left home for the scene of the shooting. Read more: 'It's not the camera, it's the journalism' Posted by Jack Lail Knoxnews, July 28, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5zvotv
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
Vaj wrote: Are you aware he was also a leading suspect in the murder of Guru Dev? Vaj just can't seem to resist spreading malicious rumors about the Maharishi. I wonder why that is? Is there something fundamentally wrong with Vaj? I wonder what it was that the Maharishi did to Vaj to cause Vaj to be having so much hatred in him. Dr. Pete would probably be knowing something about this. It's just amazing the things Vaj has to say, it's almost a form of hate-speech. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
Michael wrote: Guru Dev never gave him the ring. The ring was left on Guru Dev's corpse when the casket was lowered into the Ganges. MMY dove into the river, almost immediately to open the casket and remove the diamond ring from Guru Dev's finger. Aparently, he figured that somebody would rob the grave eventually, it might as well be him. This is outrageous! If the Marshy wanted the ring he could have just lifted it off the body during the nine hour train ride back to Kashi. Why would Marshy want to wait and then dive into the Ganges in front of everyone and open the cement casket to get at the ring?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
I heard that when MMY sent Bevan to Cambridge to get his MA, he became the top student. That says something. Sal wrote: Sure, and remember how we also heard that GWB got better grades in college than Al Gore? His mother said so, and she wouldn't...lie, would she? Bevan, Al, or George can't hold a candle to all your accomplishments, Sal. What year did you say you graduated in?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's happening to the $3Billion empire?
BillyG wrote: I believe Guru Dev was buried in concrete before being lowered into the Ganges anyway... Yes, Billy, Michael has posted one of the most outrageous posts I've read here in years: Marshy loaded the Guru Dev's body onto a flat car and then rode the rails all the way back to Kashi, with a diamond ring on the Guru Dev's finger all the way - a trip that took over nine hours. Then, the Marshy, in front of what, 10,000 people, dives into the Ganges and swims to the bottom, pries open the lid of a concrete coffin, rips the ring off the Guru Dev's finger, and then comes to the top with his hand outstretched, and tells the crowd that he's got the ring and now he will buy hisself a what, a bungalow in the Upper Kashi?
[FairfieldLife] Let us count the ways
The English-only Obama lectures America on its need to emulate polyglot Europe; while a Spanish-speaking George Bush is hopelessly cast as a Texas yokel. Read more: 'Why Do Europeans Love Obama?' By Victor Davis Hanson Pajamas Media, July 28th, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/54uph9
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The First Annual Sitges Doo Dee Doo Doo Festival
TurquoiseB wrote: Exactly. It could have been an episode of CSI Wherever, only not as well-written or acted. Ordinary. Nothing interesting about it whatsoever. And it *abandoned* everything (what little there was) that made the original series interesting. (You can tell I was never a fan...I always thought the series was aimed at adolescents.) When I attended the first X-Files movie with friends on opening day years ago the audience was much older more like the crowds you see at the UFO and New Age expos. I was reminded of two films as I watched: Michael Clayton and The Exorcism of Emily Rose and I think that is area of drama that Carter was aiming for. Yup, you had to pay attention during the film because much was in the dialog than in the action. ...and I enjoyed it. Hardly down in the sewers of Shyamalan's The Happening. It is your right to have liked it. I thought that it was very MUCH on the same level as The Happening. That is, if there had not been a name associated with the film, it would never even have been reviewed in the media. It was that ordinary, and thus that unnoticeable. The X-Files were a franchise fast food chain. People got *used* to the food there. The bur- gers weren't all that good, the Cokes were flat, but you knew the formula by heart, and always knew that you'd get a burger and a Coke. This movie was like walking in, ordering a burger and a Coke, and getting a really bad hot dog (no mustard, no relish, just the hot dog on a stale bun) and a carton of milk with an expiry date from last year on it. And as they took your money and gave you your tray, the servers said, Enjoy your Happy X-Files meal, our patented burger and a Coke. I stand by my original review of loathsome, but I'm glad you found something in it to like. I could not. Well according to Yahoo Movies the critics gave it a C and the audiences (almost 3000 votes) gave it a B. So the audiences weren't as put off as you might think by it not following the standard template. There has been a trend of movies moving away from the standard template I think because they know that the US dollar is tanking so they're going to make their money in foreign markets where people are more sophisticated. The SF Chronicle reviewer Mick LaSalle who is usually pretty tough on these kind of films gave it a good review (little man clapping). Also here is a review that reflects my feeling about the film from a Pulitzer Prize winning critic. :-) http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080723/REVIEWS/1651704 Also watching it on a 30' screen was great too with only 3 other folks in the auditorium (and being the first in I took the best seat in the house). The only problem there is it is not a THX certified theater so there was still some annoying sound leakage from other auditoriums. The other thing was to see two trailers of upcoming films: http://www.eagleeyemovie.com/ and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0970416/
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pentagon's Brave New World
On Jul 29, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Bhairitu wrote: So what is it they're afraid of that they are doing this for? Urban battlespace where? Baghdad, Tehran, Kabul or Des Moines? Best to rise up against them and hope for some foreign assistance rather than live under their dark reign. With the new spectre of Homeland Security I believe the presumption is they at least will be able to use it on innocent Americans. Expect casualties. Have you heard what they did to the minds of some of Guantanamo detainees? That was with just good ole behavior modification techniques any psychologist can tell you about. This shit is light-years ahead in the level of human torment possible with the good ole medieval insanities. In fact one should hope that this shit is so insane it should be banned anywhere, everywhere. But make no mistake, if this is what's leaked now, they probably already have such capabilities IMO and therefore the clarion call needs to be called loud and clear: now.
[FairfieldLife] 322,000 Vedic Pundits
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RE: [FairfieldLife] A Letter to My Former Guru...the Maharishi
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 5:26 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A Letter to My Former Guru...the Maharishi When I came to the end of this letter, I was so surprised to see that it was Joel writing the letter. Joel makes some very good points, but this whole thing about celibacy. What was that? Maharishi to the best of my knowledge never made any direct statements about being celibate to men on Purusha. Of course this was implied and present in all the yogi literature people read, but never directly from MMY. So many people lost their bearings in the TM movement because they stopped trusting their own judgment, their own experience. They allowed themselves to become psychologically enslaved by the increasingly bizarre perspective of MMY and never allowed themselves to trust their own little intuitive voice that was screaming at them. For those that don't know Joel, he is a very good man, a little fanatical at times like we all were at some time, but a great sense of humor and a warm heart. One of the good guys! -Peter Maharishi said plenty about celibacy, starting an Poland Spring, 1970 in my experience. Whenever the subject of sex came up, he would first say that he didn't know anything about it. Then, often in the next breath, he would talk about his desire to assemble a group of guys who wanted to live that lifestyle. Once Purusha was formed, there were plenty of meetings in which he fielded questions and encouraged the guys to maintain celibacy. I asked him about it personally one time (with regard to nocturnal emissions) and he gave me some advice (not to eat too much at night). You were never on Purusha were you Peter?
