[FairfieldLife] Funny cut-n-paste of Palin interview

2008-10-04 Thread bob_brigante
http://64.27.15.184/parchive/xml/pocho.xml

click on the pocho hour of power link for October 3rd -- three minute 
Palin interview starts about 13:40 (pocho means a Mexican-American who 
speaks crummy Spanish and doesn't know much about his heritage - A 
Gringoized Mexican)



[FairfieldLife] 'What are you-when your not having thoughts?'

2008-10-04 Thread Robert
Pure energy and intelligence.
(Hopefully)
 
_say it ain't so...


  

[FairfieldLife] 'Are You Experienced or Why We Didn't LIke Carter?'

2008-10-04 Thread Robert
Why we didn't like Jimi Carter?
Well, Carter was shy about pomp and circumstance.
He was intelligent, as well, ( little, too smart).
Plus the fact, he was trying to decriminalize pot,
And even had Willie Nelson, to the WH, to sing the star spangled, yu betcha!
Can you imagine!?
Was Carter a hunter, No!
He liked to go fishing, it's so true(Boring!)
 
Then, there was them there hostage situation...
Oh boy, what a fiasco that was: 444 days at the Mercy of the Mullahs.
Then the rescue mission failed, or got sabatoged?
Who really knows, these days?
A few good men, died.
 
Then came Ronnie, our Savior.
He did like pomp and circumstance, bunches and bunces, couldn't get enough!
And wouldn't ya know it, as soon as he took the oath,
The hostages were released!
That Ronnie! Always had good timing, he did.
And wouldn't ya know it, he traded arms for weapons or drugs,
Or something like that, to Iran, I forget.
And even bin Laden had connections to him.
Boy that Ronnie, what a hero he was!
Even brought down the Soviet Empire, then say.
He coined the phrase just say no...
And he said no to lots of stuff:
No regulations, no welfare, no hippies, no universal medicine.
As a matter of fact, he used to like to say, government is bad.
Strange, then why are you running for government, then?
Anyway, he was mostly senile, but could read his lines, real well, they say,
Even in his sleep!
You betcha!
 
Robert Gimbel   Madison, Wisconsin
 
 
 


  

[FairfieldLife] 'Warrior or Priest, which is it?

2008-10-04 Thread Robert
Do we wish to be ruled by a warrior or a priest?
What do the Vedas say about this?

Do we want to be ruled by Caesar or Yeshua?

Which do you prefer.

Do you like guns or butter?

Which comes first the chicken or the egg?

It's getting late.
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] 'Hey O.J./It's called kkkarma, dude!'

2008-10-04 Thread Robert



By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent 44 minutes ago 

LAS VEGAS - O.J. Simpson, who went from American sports idol to 
celebrity-in-exile after he was acquitted of murder in 1995, was found guilty 
Friday of robbing two sports-memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in a Las Vegas 
hotel room. 

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The 61-year-old former football star could spend the rest of his life in 
prison. Sentencing was set for Dec. 5.
A weary and somber Simpson released a heavy sigh as the charges were read by 
the clerk in Clark County District Court. He was immediately taken into custody.
The Hall of Fame football star was convicted of kidnapping, armed robbery and 
10 other charges for gathering up five men a year ago and storming into a room 
at a hotel-casino, where the group seized several game balls, plaques and 
photos. Prosecutors said two of the men with him were armed; one of them said 
Simpson asked him to bring a gun.
The verdict came 13 years to the day after Simpson was cleared of murdering his 
ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ronald Goldman, in Los Angeles 
in one of the most sensational trials of the 20th century.
I don't like to use the word payback, defense attorney Yale Galanter said. I 
can tell you from the beginning my biggest concern ... was whether or not the 
jury would be able to separate their very strong feelings about Mr. Simpson and 
judge him fairly and honestly.
Simpson's co-defendant, Clarence C.J. Stewart, 54, also was found guilty on 
all charges in the Las Vegas case and taken into custody.
Simpson showed little emotion as officers handcuffed him and walked him out of 
the courtroom. His sister, Carmelita Durio, sobbed behind him in the arms of 
Simpson's friend, Tom Scotto, who said I love you as Simpson passed by. As 
spectators left the courtroom, Durio collapsed.
Jurors made no eye contact with the defendants as they entered the courtroom. 
They declined to answer questions after the verdict was read.
Galanter said his client had expected the outcome, and in a courthouse 
conversation with an Associated Press reporter on Thursday, Simpson had implied 
as much.
Simpson said he felt melancholy and that he was afraid that I won't get to go 
to my kids' college graduations after I managed to get them through college.
Galanter said it was not a happy day for anybody. His only hope is the 
appellate process, he said.
Clark County spokesman Dan Kulin said prosecutors would not comment until the 
case was completely resolved.
Judge Jackie Glass made no comment other than to thank the jury for its service 
and to deny motions for the defendants to be released on bail.
She refused to give the lawyers extended time to file a motion for new trial, 
which under Nevada law must be filed within seven days. The attorneys said they 
needed time to submit a voluminous record.
I've sat through the trial, Glass said. If you want a motion for new trial, 
send me something.
Stewart's attorney, Brent Bryson, promised to appeal.
If there was ever a case that should have been severed in the history of 
jurisprudence, it's this case, he said of unsuccessful attempts to separate 
Stewart's case from Simpson's because of the spillover effect. 
From the beginning, Simpson and his lawyers argued the incident was not a 
robbery, but an attempt to reclaim mementos that had been stolen from him. He 
said he did not ask anyone to bring a weapon and did not see any guns. 
The defense portrayed Simpson as a victim of shady characters who wanted to 
make a buck off his famous name, and police officers who saw his arrest as an 
opportunity to get him and avenge his acquittal. 
Prosecutors said Simpson's ownership of the memorabilia was irrelevant; it was 
still a crime to try to take things by force. 
When they went into that room and forced the victims to the far side of the 
room, pulling out guns and yelling, `Don't let anybody out of here!' — six very 
large people detaining these two victims in the room with the intent to take 
property through force or violence from them — that's kidnapping, prosecutor 
David Roger said. 
Kidnapping is punishable by five years to life in prison. Armed robbery carries 
a mandatory sentence of at least two years behind bars, and could bring as much 
as 30. 
Simpson, who now lives in Miami, did not testify but was heard on a recording 
of the confrontation screaming that the dealers had stolen his property. Don't 
let nobody out of this room, he declared and told the other men to scoop up 
his items, which included a photo of Simpson with former FBI Director J. Edgar 
Hoover. 
Four other men charged in the case struck plea bargains that saved them from 
potential prison sentences in return for their testimony. Some of them had 
criminal records or were otherwise compromised in some way. One, for 

[FairfieldLife] 'Palin's Mentor= Dick Cheney'

2008-10-04 Thread Robert
Dick Cheney, Role Model 


Published: October 3, 2008 NYT

 
In all the talk about the vice-presidential debate, there was an issue that did 
not get much attention but kept nagging at us: Sarah Palin’s description of the 
role and the responsibilities of the office for which she is running, vice 
president of the United States.
In Thursday night’s debate, Ms. Palin was asked about the vice president’s role 
in government. She said she agreed with Dick Cheney that “we have a lot of 
flexibility in there” under the Constitution. And she declared that she was 
“thankful that the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the 
vice president also, if that vice president so chose to exert it.” 
It is hard to tell from Ms. Palin’s remarks whether she understands how 
profoundly Dick Cheney has reshaped the vice presidency — as part of a larger 
drive to free the executive branch from all checks and balances. Nor did she 
seem to understand how much damage that has done to American democracy. 
Mr. Cheney has shown what can happen when a vice president — a position that is 
easy to lampoon and overlook — is given free rein by the president and does not 
care about trampling on the Constitution. 
Mr. Cheney has long taken the bizarre view that the lesson of Watergate was 
that Congress was too powerful and the president not powerful enough. He 
dedicated himself to expanding President Bush’s authority and arrogating to 
himself executive, legislative and legal powers that are nowhere in the 
Constitution. 
This isn’t the first time that Ms. Palin was confronted with the issue. In an 
interview with Katie Couric of CBS News, the Alaska governor was asked what she 
thought was the best and worst about the Cheney vice presidency. Ms. Palin 
tried to dodge: laughing and joking about the hunting accident in which Mr. 
Cheney accidentally shot a friend. The only thing she had to add was that Mr. 
Cheney showed support for the troops in Iraq.
There was not a word about Mr. Cheney’s role in starting the war with Iraq, in 
misleading Americans about weapons of mass destruction, in leading the charge 
to create illegal prison camps where detainees are tortured, in illegally 
wiretapping Americans, in creating an energy policy that favored the oil 
industry that made him very rich before the administration began.
Ms. Couric asked Joseph Biden, Ms. Palin’s rival, the same question in a 
separate interview. He had it exactly right when he told her that Mr. Cheney’s 
theory of the “unitary executive” held that “Congress and the people have no 
power in a time of war.” And he had it right in the debate when he called Mr. 
Cheney “the most dangerous vice president we’ve had in American history.” 
The Constitution does not state or imply any flexibility in the office of vice 
president. It gives the vice president no legislative responsibilities other 
than casting a tie-breaking vote in the Senate when needed and no executive 
powers at all. The vice president’s constitutional role is to be ready to serve 
if the president dies or becomes incapacitated. 
Any president deserves a vice president who will be a sound adviser and 
trustworthy supporter. But the American people also deserve and need a vice 
president who understands and respects the balance of power — and the limits of 
his or her own power. That is fundamental to our democracy. 
So far, Ms. Palin has it exactly, frighteningly wrong.


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Market crash due to lack of sunspots

2008-10-04 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/science/space/03sun.html
 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/science/space/03sun.html


Yes - our sun is very quiet at present and no one knows for sure what
it all adds up to. But how ironic it would turn out to be if, whilst
our lords and masters have all the while been preparing us for global
warming, global COOLING should sneak up from behind and stab us all in
the back! But then for TBs all bases are covered by the catch-all
climate change eh? (read: pay more taxes, invest in nuclear
energy etc).

I find http://wattsupwiththat.com/ very interesting on
this subject.

eg:

Ireland has 30 year cold event, plus coldest September in 14 years
http://tiny.cc/YACVt

NASA: Sun is 'blankety blankest' it's been in the Space Age
http://tiny.cc/vhePV

Polar Defense Project Deletes The Tough Questions
http://tiny.cc/lqnQt

RSS Feed: http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/feed/



[FairfieldLife] 'New Orleans- Worse than we thought...'

2008-10-04 Thread Robert



ELECTION 2008
Green candidate claims government killed 5,000
McKinney : 'Data was entered into a Pentagon computer'
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=76841
2nd October, 2008m © 2008 WorldNetDaily






Rep. Cynthia McKinney, 
D-Ga.

The former Democratic congresswoman from Georgia who now is the Green Party's candidate for president has claimed the government killed 5,000 prison inmates during Hurricane Katrina, dumping their bodies in a Louisiana swamp, according to a Fox News report.
Cynthia McKinney told a news conference in Oakland. , Calif. , Sunday she heard the story from the mother of a National Guard soldier, and she checked it with "insiders" who want to remain anonymous.
"And these were mostly males and her son was afraid to talk because he had signed a silence agreement," McKinney said, according to Fox News. "So he only complained to his mother. But the data was entered into a Pentagon computer."
She alleged the government authorized the executions to be done with a bullet to the head.
"I suspect that these are prisoners. ... So this investigation of the whole prison industrial complex is extremely important and it should not end with just a question of the nature of prisons in our country. These 5,000 souls also need some justice too," Fox reported she said.
Lt. Col. Les Melnyk, a spokesman for the Defense Department, called it "outrageous."
"The claim ... doesn't merit any further consideration," he told Fox. "It would be inconceivable that 5,000 people would go missing in America without anyone noticing it prior to this."
Here is her comment: this is a video on the URL http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=76841
Psychologists and psychology professors contacted by Fox News expressed shock at the assertion.
"Wow! What a conspiracy theory," one professor exclaimed.
Commenting on the Fox News website forum were largely of one opinion:

"I am surprised she didn't claim it was 5,000 black men and a racist plot by Bush! Liberals eliminated all mental hospitals; now I know why! They would fill them all up!"
"I have never heard of her, this lady is a FRUIT LOOP."
"Life must be really scary on her planet."
"Obviously not the brightest crayola in the box. ... Cynthia...stick a fork in yourself dearyour DONE!"
Fox said McKinney 's presidential campaign did not respond to a request for comment.
She was in Congress for 12 years until 2007. She has, in the past, suggested President Bush knew in advance about the Sept. 11, 2001 , terrorist attacks but didn't warn Americans because of his father's business interests.
In 2006, McKinney was accused of slugging a Capitol police officer when she went through a security checkpoint without a congressional lapel pin for identification.

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Warrior or Priest, which is it?

2008-10-04 Thread Peter
Guns, babybig fat blasting guns. 


--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Warrior or Priest, which is it?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 4:47 AM
 Do we wish to be ruled by a warrior or a priest?
 What do the Vedas say about this?
 
 Do we want to be ruled by Caesar or Yeshua?
 
 Which do you prefer.
 
 Do you like guns or butter?
 
 Which comes first the chicken or the egg?
 
 It's getting late.
 R.G.
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War

2008-10-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
John wrote:
 At this time, the Americans would be looking 
 for the most qualified executives who can 
 steer the country in the right direction for 
 the next four years at least.

Sarah Palin has more executive experience than
John McCain, Barak Obama, or Joe Biden. The
ideal choice might have been Mitt Romney, since
he has the most executive experience.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War

2008-10-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
Robert wrote:
 Well, that only happened because he was in San Fransisco...
 When he was speaking with a group and gays and lezzy's.

Maybe you should stop with the pandering, Robert, 
I already told you I'm not gay. The rest of your
sexist nonsense doesn't even deserve a reply. Maybe
you should go back and read some of the messages that
talk about elitism.

 (Snip)
 xxx willytex@ wrote:
 
  Obama almost lost the primaries when 
  Hillary Clinton discovered his elitism 
  and turned herself into a beer-chugging 
  Rosie the Riveter...
  
 (snip)
 Well, that only happened because he was in San Fransisco...
 When he was speaking with a group and gays and lezzy's.
 So...
 It really doesn't count. 
 Anyhow's, how 'bout this:
 Rosie the Riveter is as gay as the day is long.
 Her husband, Bill, is pretty straight though, from what I hear.
 
 Who knows, really?
 
 Who is really, Elite, and who is not.
 
 Spiritually, speaking, Jesus(Yweshuwa)would be elite.
 Materially, speaking, Donald Trump(Trump) would be elite.
 
 Somewhere in between, is where I live!
 
 But, then again, 
 
 I thought striving to become elite was the 'American Way'
 Aren't we all striving to become rich and famous, and hang with 
 the 'Big Boy's and Girl's?
 
 Could be why: Johnny(Big Dong)McCain,
 P(r)icked Sarah, and why Sarah is striving so hard to win.
 Do think she's doing it(It), to be patriotic, 
 Or,
 Do you think she just might be doing IT,
 Because she(Ms.LIPSTICk) is quite, 
 NEUROTIc?
 R.G.





[FairfieldLife] 'Was LBJ a Sixties Radical, too?'

2008-10-04 Thread Robert
Ho Ho Ho Chi Min
 
Was Lyndon Baines Johnson a '60's radical, too?
Well, Define radical= Irrational and Violent.
Was LBJ irrational and violent?
Well, after he was told by Robert McNamara,
His Secretary of Defense(Offense?)...
That he was told by Robert McNamara, 
That the Viet Nam war was Unwin-able,
Short of a Nuke...
Lyndon would not give it up.
B-52's continued to carpet bomb, for many years.
Napalm continued to burn human flesh,
For many years.
LBJ kept on fighting it,
Because he did not want to be the first president,
To lose a war.
So, I believe that would make him a sixties radical,
Which helped create all the other sixties radicals.
Check out the Wall in D.C.
It's a very sad and tearful place, 
Evem to this very day.
 
R.G.  


  

[FairfieldLife] SEX

2008-10-04 Thread John
Below is one of my Links, it is a little to long to post, 
so I will just give you the link if you don't mind - 
the message will have music, and a photo, and it will
be easier to read.
Thanks, John - in Cleveland Ohio ...

http://clevelandohiousa.tripod.com/sex/






[FairfieldLife] Re: Depression or socialism?

2008-10-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
  So is there a caste lower than untouchable?
  
Curtis wrote:
 Yes, Untouchables are still in the caste system.  
 The shit-for-brains status for Westerners with 
 no shakka lineage is called outcaste, not
 even IN the caste system.  
 
Obviously you're in the elite, Curtis. Like
you'd be knowing anything about the Hindu 
social systems. Apparently the 'caste' system
was first brought to India from the West during 
the 'Aryan' invasions. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War

2008-10-04 Thread Robert
 (snip)
Dear Tex,
I'm sorry for thinking you were gay,
But, I wasn't really thinking you were gay.
But, I'm sorry you took it the wrong way.
I know I haven't been too politically correct,
In my observations of the Gay and Lesbian culture...
And I apologize for that.
God Bless all the Gay and Lesbian people in this world,
And the next.
Amen.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War

2008-10-04 Thread Robert
 (snip)
  the next four years at least.
 
 Sarah Palin has more executive experience than
 John McCain, Barak Obama, or Joe Biden. The
 ideal choice might have been Mitt Romney, since
 he has the most executive experience.
 (snip)
If we're just seeking executive experience,
Why not elect Bevan Morris as president?
Oh, I forgot, he was borned in Australia...

What about Arnold Schwartzennager...
Oh, I forgot, he was borned in Austria...

I pick the priest.
I will be voting for the eventual winner:
Barack Obama.
R.G.




[FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins

2008-10-04 Thread TurquoiseB
I've been expecting this:

Say It Ain't So, Sarah: Palin Smears Obama 
With Year-Old Discredited Attack:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/say-it-aint-so-sarah-pali_n_131841.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/4f436p

In this clip, Sarah Palin is doing the 
inevitable -- having an anti-handler
attack. It was inevitable because, just
like McCain, she really is a maverick 
at heart (that is, someone who does not 
think before he or she acts, and believes
that this is a higher order of action
than thinking things through), and has 
resented the 8-10 hours a day of remedial 
education that have been forced on her 
to prep her for the debate.

Now that's done, and she didn't embarrass
herself too badly, and so she's thinking,
I'll show them. I'll show those conde-
scending bastards that I know a thing or
two too. I'll come up with my *own* talking
points.

That's pretty much got to be the case, right?
No handler in the Republican Party would have
let her trot out an old crapola smear like
this. She pretty much had to have discovered
it on her own, probably cruising some anti-
Obama website. Remember how she bragged about
doing her research on Obama before the 
debate itself? This was one of the zingers
she thought she'd found, and was saving for
the appropriate moment to unleash.

And, just like John McCain, who got so pissed
off at being handled -- and needing it -- she
decided to go with her gut and take the same
kind of flying fuck at a rolling donut that
McCain took when he chose her as VP nominee.

In other meltdown moments, she's backpedaling
on most of what she said to Katie Couric, 
while lashing out at her. It's the same revenge
pattern we saw when she took office as mayor,
and then again as governor. The moment she feels
that the pressure is off, she goes into revenge
mode and starts lashing out at her perceived 
enemies, going with her gut in an attempt to
1) get them and 2) prove that she doesn't 
need handling.

Unfortunately, she does.

Watch for more of these meltdown moments in the
next 2 weeks. The handlers relaxed their hold on 
her for a few days, and now they realize what
happens when they do. So they'll clamp back down
on her again, and she'll resent that even more,
and keep going with her gut.

And that's going to be really entertaining...





[FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab News Publishes...)

2008-10-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The Middle East's Leading English Language Daily
 Saturday 4 October 2008 (04 Shawwal 1429)
 
 An Overlooked, Proven Solution to Terrorism
 David R. Leffler


Looks as if the ME has finally found a home,
somewhere readers will take it seriously and
understand that it's hard science...just as 
real and as supported by science as, say, the 
evil eye. From the same issue of UK-based 
ArabNews.com:


Effects of evil eye exaggerated, says psychiatrist Laura Bashraheel
 
JEDDAH: The evil eye is something that people in the Kingdom — like
those of other cultures and religions — generally believe in. However,
many people exaggerate its effects and often develop a psyche to
continuously attribute their unhappiness and illnesses to the concept.

The evil eye, which is known in Arabic as Ain, comes into effect
when someone is jealous of another person. As a result, the person
affected will feel an adverse effect, such as some sort of material harm.

The Prophet (peace be upon him) indicated that the influence of the
evil eye is a fact. Saying Masha Allah (as God wills) when someone
sees something appealing is a way of protecting others from the evil
eye. It is customary to say Masha Allah, or invoke God's blessings on
the object or person that is being admired. Reciting certain verses
from the Qur'an is used to protect one's self from the evil eye.

In certain cultures, people burn incense sticks, hang the evil eye
symbol in their homes, burn garlic peels and carry out wiping rituals.
However, Islam considers such actions baseless. Prayers and a clean
forgiving heart are what Islam preaches. The Islamic faith teaches
believers to look toward those who are above them when considering
righteousness and piety, and look toward those below them when
considering their material physical wellbeing.

However, some people go to the extreme by believing that the evil eye
is behind every difficulty that comes to them. Some wealthy people
refrain from spending because they are afraid the evil eye might
adversely affect them.

One mother of three, who asked her name not be published, is convinced
that the evil eye will harm her family if they spend too much money or
show off their opulence.

Her son, who used to own a Porsche while studying in Canada, believed
that the evil eye caused him to crash his car. When he first brought
the car to Canada from Jeddah, his mother put black seeds into it to
protect it. (Black seeds are said to be useful for healing and curing
especially if blessed with verses from the Qur'an.)

The woman's son attributed the crash to the removal of the black seeds
when he got the car cleaned.

Maha Ibrahim, a 28-year-old university graduate, said that she and her
friends once befriended a woman.

My friends and I started to hang out with this woman. The first time
she joined us was at my friend's house. When she first walked into the
house, she noticed my friend's new eyeglasses and commented on how
nice they were. After a while, she accidentally broke them by sitting
on them, said Ibrahim.

Ibrahim said the woman came to visit her after she gave birth to her
first child. The woman commented on how she was breast-feeding her
baby. Sometime later, her breasts became affected with a strange type
of eczema.

On another occasion we were all at my friend's house and the woman
commented how beautiful the house and carpets were. At that time a
charcoal from a hubble-bubble fell onto the carpet. The resulting burn
looked like an eye, she said. This was when we decided not to
contact her again.

Dr. Saad Al-Khateeb, a senior consultant psychiatrist at the Jeddah
Psychiatric Hospital, said that although Islam recognizes the effects
of evil eye as a fact, some people overly attribute all sickness to
the concept.

As a psychiatrist and a Muslim I do believe in the evil eye but some
people go to extremes, said Al-Khateeb.

If someone is affected with the evil eye and then falls in the street
and breaks his leg, should he go to a doctor or a religious man? The
result of the evil eye needs to be cured medically, he added.

Al-Khateeb said psychologists do not study the evil eye. If someone
was affected with it then he or she should see a specialist, for
example a religious man who cures using the Qur'an and not a magician
who uses black magic. As psychiatrists we try to cure the illness ...
we try to convince the patient that he or she needs help, he added.

Al-Khateeb pointed out that some people attribute certain chronic
psychological illnesses whose causes are unclear to the evil eye. I
also believe that the media plays a role in making people believe that
evil eye is behind everything, such as a soap about black magic and
the evil eye aired on MBC in Ramadan. If someone is a believer he or
she would never be affected, he added.





[FairfieldLife] Re: We're Screwed Now: The Pelosi, Reid, Bush bailout passes

2008-10-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
 There *will* be blow back.  

All of this raises the question: are 
they trying to make things worse in the 
hopes of furthering their party's election 
prospects? Similar suspicions were raised 
when Nancy Pelosi seemed to inflame her 
partisan opponents and resist any effort 
to whip her own caucus on the first failed 
bailout bill vote. Certainly as the 
financial crisis has intensified their 
electoral prospects have brightened.

Read more:

'What's The Matter With Harry?'
By Jennifer Rubin
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/




[FairfieldLife] Geek Meditation -- the new Checking procedure

2008-10-04 Thread TurquoiseB
Just as Maharishi adapted meditation to the 
language of the times, so will the next
generation of meditation teachers:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2248/2053458310_6a30f248b1_o.jpg

There should be one more talk balloon at 
the end that says, It was user friendly?

:-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War

2008-10-04 Thread gullible fool


Sarah Palin has more executive experience than
John McCain, Barak Obama, or Joe Biden. The
ideal choice might have been Mitt Romney, since
he has the most executive experience.
 
Living in Massachusetts, I thought Romney would be the best of all the 
Republicans by far. The US will be better of with Obama, though, both because 
he's a few notches higher on the evolutionary scale than all the others and 
because the US is accustomed to swinging back and forth from one party to 
another and now it is the other party's turn. 
 
I vote the person, not the party. If it had been Romney versus Hillary, I 
would have voted Republican again, which I have not done since before Hagelin 
ran.
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:36 AM

John wrote:
 At this time, the Americans would be looking 
 for the most qualified executives who can 
 steer the country in the right direction for 
 the next four years at least.

Sarah Palin has more executive experience than
John McCain, Barak Obama, or Joe Biden. The
ideal choice might have been Mitt Romney, since
he has the most executive experience.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Depression or socialism?

2008-10-04 Thread Peter



--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Depression or socialism?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:45 AM
   So is there a caste lower than untouchable?
   
 Curtis wrote:
  Yes, Untouchables are still in the caste system.  
  The shit-for-brains status for Westerners with 
  no shakka lineage is called outcaste, not
  even IN the caste system.  
  
 Obviously you're in the elite, Curtis. Like
 you'd be knowing anything about the Hindu 
 social systems. Apparently the 'caste' system
 was first brought to India from the West during 
 the 'Aryan' invasions.

Williams is that an old Gujurati name?



 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins

2008-10-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been expecting this:
 
 Say It Ain't So, Sarah: Palin Smears Obama 
 With Year-Old Discredited Attack:
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/say-it-aint-so-sarah-
pali_n_131841.html
 or
 http://tinyurl.com/4f436p
snip
 Now that's done, and she didn't embarrass
 herself too badly, and so she's thinking,
 I'll show them. I'll show those conde-
 scending bastards that I know a thing or
 two too. I'll come up with my *own* talking
 points.
 
 That's pretty much got to be the case, right?
 No handler in the Republican Party would have
 let her trot out an old crapola smear like
 this. She pretty much had to have discovered
 it on her own, probably cruising some anti-
 Obama website. Remember how she bragged about
 doing her research on Obama before the 
 debate itself? This was one of the zingers
 she thought she'd found, and was saving for
 the appropriate moment to unleash.

Heh. Try actually reading the article you cited:

One year after Obama's initial remark, the McCain
campaign marked the anniversary by randomly raising
it in the form of a biting press release. That
charge didn't create many waves. (The Huffington
Post wrote an article examining that attack as well.)
But the McCain campaign kept at it...

This happened only about six weeks ago. The smear
was undoubtedly given to her by one of her handlers
to use as she saw fit.

What on earth makes you think the McCain campaign
cares if it's been debunked??




[FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards

2008-10-04 Thread Rick Archer
http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards

2008-10-04 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote:


http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm


Looks like Norman Rockwell on Prozac.

Why all the pictures of the gazebo?  What's
so special about the gazebo?

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 

 This happened only about six weeks ago. The smear
 was undoubtedly given to her by one of her handlers
 to use as she saw fit.
 
 What on earth makes you think the McCain campaign
 cares if it's been debunked??


It screws up his off-the-cuff, ad hoc, inner-world, unsubstantiated,
unresearched theory? 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
  http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm
 
 Looks like Norman Rockwell on Prozac.
 
 Why all the pictures of the gazebo?  What's
 so special about the gazebo?
 
 Sal


It creates woo woo energy like the pyramids and SV homes. duh.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards

2008-10-04 Thread gullible fool

 
Very, very nice photos, although at least one of them seems out of place as a 
Christmas card:
 
http://beingandseeing.com/miscellaneous/source/p1010235-edit.htm
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 12:15 PM




On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm

Looks like Norman Rockwell on Prozac.


Why all the pictures of the gazebo?  What's 
so special about the gazebo?


Sal

 


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins

2008-10-04 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 I've been expecting this:

 Say It Ain't So, Sarah: Palin Smears Obama 
 With Year-Old Discredited Attack:
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/say-it-aint-so-sarah-pali_n_131841.html
 or
 http://tinyurl.com/4f436p

 In this clip, Sarah Palin is doing the 
 inevitable -- having an anti-handler
 attack. It was inevitable because, just
 like McCain, she really is a maverick 
 at heart (that is, someone who does not 
 think before he or she acts, and believes
 that this is a higher order of action
 than thinking things through), and has 
 resented the 8-10 hours a day of remedial 
 education that have been forced on her 
 to prep her for the debate.

 Now that's done, and she didn't embarrass
 herself too badly, and so she's thinking,
 I'll show them. I'll show those conde-
 scending bastards that I know a thing or
 two too. I'll come up with my *own* talking
 points.

 That's pretty much got to be the case, right?
 No handler in the Republican Party would have
 let her trot out an old crapola smear like
 this. She pretty much had to have discovered
 it on her own, probably cruising some anti-
 Obama website. Remember how she bragged about
 doing her research on Obama before the 
 debate itself? This was one of the zingers
 she thought she'd found, and was saving for
 the appropriate moment to unleash.

 And, just like John McCain, who got so pissed
 off at being handled -- and needing it -- she
 decided to go with her gut and take the same
 kind of flying fuck at a rolling donut that
 McCain took when he chose her as VP nominee.

 In other meltdown moments, she's backpedaling
 on most of what she said to Katie Couric, 
 while lashing out at her. It's the same revenge
 pattern we saw when she took office as mayor,
 and then again as governor. The moment she feels
 that the pressure is off, she goes into revenge
 mode and starts lashing out at her perceived 
 enemies, going with her gut in an attempt to
 1) get them and 2) prove that she doesn't 
 need handling.

 Unfortunately, she does.

 Watch for more of these meltdown moments in the
 next 2 weeks. The handlers relaxed their hold on 
 her for a few days, and now they realize what
 happens when they do. So they'll clamp back down
 on her again, and she'll resent that even more,
 and keep going with her gut.

 And that's going to be really entertaining...
MovieStorm a free program I use to make 3D animations has released an 
Election 2008 addon pack (not free though inexpensive) complete with 
Palin, McCain, Obama, Bush and they will be adding Biden.   I'm going to 
have some fun with this particularly taking some Frances McDormand lines 
from Fargo for Palin to say (completely non-sequitur of course).
http://www.moviestorm.co.uk/



[FairfieldLife] The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

2008-10-04 Thread John
To All:

It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today and 
the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA national 
debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently forget 
to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing cancer that 
cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.

President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his 
administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped reduce 
the national debt--but not by much.

In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts 
which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to the 
national debt.

Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that the 
party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.

But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab News Publishes...)

2008-10-04 Thread Peter
Ha Ha! Classic!


--- On Sat, 10/4/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab 
 News Publishes...)
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 10:44 AM
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The Middle East's Leading English Language Daily
  Saturday 4 October 2008 (04 Shawwal 1429)
  
  An Overlooked, Proven Solution to Terrorism
  David R. Leffler
 
 
 Looks as if the ME has finally found a home,
 somewhere readers will take it seriously and
 understand that it's hard science...just as 
 real and as supported by science as, say, the 
 evil eye. From the same issue of UK-based 
 ArabNews.com:
 
 
 Effects of evil eye exaggerated, says psychiatrist Laura
 Bashraheel
  
 JEDDAH: The evil eye is something that people in the
 Kingdom — like
 those of other cultures and religions — generally believe
 in. However,
 many people exaggerate its effects and often develop a
 psyche to
 continuously attribute their unhappiness and illnesses to
 the concept.
 
 The evil eye, which is known in Arabic as Ain,
 comes into effect
 when someone is jealous of another person. As a result, the
 person
 affected will feel an adverse effect, such as some sort of
 material harm.
 
 The Prophet (peace be upon him) indicated that the
 influence of the
 evil eye is a fact. Saying Masha Allah (as God wills) when
 someone
 sees something appealing is a way of protecting others from
 the evil
 eye. It is customary to say Masha Allah, or invoke
 God's blessings on
 the object or person that is being admired. Reciting
 certain verses
 from the Qur'an is used to protect one's self from
 the evil eye.
 
 In certain cultures, people burn incense sticks, hang the
 evil eye
 symbol in their homes, burn garlic peels and carry out
 wiping rituals.
 However, Islam considers such actions baseless. Prayers and
 a clean
 forgiving heart are what Islam preaches. The Islamic faith
 teaches
 believers to look toward those who are above them when
 considering
 righteousness and piety, and look toward those below them
 when
 considering their material physical wellbeing.
 
 However, some people go to the extreme by believing that
 the evil eye
 is behind every difficulty that comes to them. Some wealthy
 people
 refrain from spending because they are afraid the evil eye
 might
 adversely affect them.
 
 One mother of three, who asked her name not be published,
 is convinced
 that the evil eye will harm her family if they spend too
 much money or
 show off their opulence.
 
 Her son, who used to own a Porsche while studying in
 Canada, believed
 that the evil eye caused him to crash his car. When he
 first brought
 the car to Canada from Jeddah, his mother put black seeds
 into it to
 protect it. (Black seeds are said to be useful for healing
 and curing
 especially if blessed with verses from the Qur'an.)
 
 The woman's son attributed the crash to the removal of
 the black seeds
 when he got the car cleaned.
 
 Maha Ibrahim, a 28-year-old university graduate, said that
 she and her
 friends once befriended a woman.
 
 My friends and I started to hang out with this woman.
 The first time
 she joined us was at my friend's house. When she first
 walked into the
 house, she noticed my friend's new eyeglasses and
 commented on how
 nice they were. After a while, she accidentally broke them
 by sitting
 on them, said Ibrahim.
 
 Ibrahim said the woman came to visit her after she gave
 birth to her
 first child. The woman commented on how she was
 breast-feeding her
 baby. Sometime later, her breasts became affected with a
 strange type
 of eczema.
 
 On another occasion we were all at my friend's
 house and the woman
 commented how beautiful the house and carpets were. At that
 time a
 charcoal from a hubble-bubble fell onto the carpet. The
 resulting burn
 looked like an eye, she said. This was when we
 decided not to
 contact her again.
 
 Dr. Saad Al-Khateeb, a senior consultant psychiatrist at
 the Jeddah
 Psychiatric Hospital, said that although Islam recognizes
 the effects
 of evil eye as a fact, some people overly attribute all
 sickness to
 the concept.
 
 As a psychiatrist and a Muslim I do believe in the
 evil eye but some
 people go to extremes, said Al-Khateeb.
 
 If someone is affected with the evil eye and then
 falls in the street
 and breaks his leg, should he go to a doctor or a religious
 man? The
 result of the evil eye needs to be cured medically,
 he added.
 
 Al-Khateeb said psychologists do not study the evil eye.
 If someone
 was affected with it then he or she should see a
 specialist, for
 example a religious man who cures using the Qur'an and
 not a magician
 who uses black magic. As psychiatrists we try to cure the
 illness ...
 we try to convince the patient that he or she needs
 help, he added.
 
 Al-Khateeb pointed out that some people attribute 

[FairfieldLife] Woman, 90, shoots self during eviction; Fannie Mae forgives loan

2008-10-04 Thread do.rflex


Two days after a 90-year-old Ohio woman shot herself as deputies tried
to evict her from her foreclosed home, Fannie Mae has decided to
forgive the delinquent loan and give her the house outright, CNN reports.

We're going to forgive whatever outstanding balance she had on the
loan and give her the house, said Fannie Mae spokesman Brian. Given
the circumstances, we think it's appropriate.

Addie Polk of Akron is listed in critical condition at Akron General
Medical Center. She shot herself at least twice in the upper body
Wednesday afternoon as sheriff's deputies came to evict her from the
house she has lived in since 1970. CNN has video of a neighbor
describing what he saw.

There's a lot of people like Miss Polk right now. That's the sad
thing about it, said Akron City Council President Marco
Sommerville.They might not be as old as her, some could be as old as
her. This is just a major problem.

CNN explains Polk's story:

In 2004, Polk took out a 30-year, 6.375 percent mortgage for
$45,620 with a Countrywide Home Loan office in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio.
The same day, she also took out an $11,380 line of credit.

Over the next couple of years, Polk missed payments on the
101-year-old home that she and her late husband purchased in 1970. In
2007, Fannie Mae assumed the mortgage and later filed for foreclosure.

Deputies had tried to serve Polk's eviction notice more than 30
times before Wednesday's incident, Sommerville said. She never came to
the door, but the notes the deputies left would always disappear, so
they knew she was inside and ambulatory, he said.

Sommerville said Akron is creating programs to help people keep their
homes. But what do you do when there's just so many people out there
and the economy is in the shape that it's in?

He added that many businesses and individuals have offered to help Polk.

USA TODAY:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/10/ohio-woman-90-s.html 








Re: [FairfieldLife] Woman, 90, shoots self during eviction; Fannie Mae forgives loan

2008-10-04 Thread Bhairitu
do.rflex wrote:
 Two days after a 90-year-old Ohio woman shot herself as deputies tried
 to evict her from her foreclosed home, Fannie Mae has decided to
 forgive the delinquent loan and give her the house outright, CNN reports.

 We're going to forgive whatever outstanding balance she had on the
 loan and give her the house, said Fannie Mae spokesman Brian. Given
 the circumstances, we think it's appropriate.

 Addie Polk of Akron is listed in critical condition at Akron General
 Medical Center. She shot herself at least twice in the upper body
 Wednesday afternoon as sheriff's deputies came to evict her from the
 house she has lived in since 1970. CNN has video of a neighbor
 describing what he saw.

 There's a lot of people like Miss Polk right now. That's the sad
 thing about it, said Akron City Council President Marco
 Sommerville.They might not be as old as her, some could be as old as
 her. This is just a major problem.

 CNN explains Polk's story:

 In 2004, Polk took out a 30-year, 6.375 percent mortgage for
 $45,620 with a Countrywide Home Loan office in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio.
 The same day, she also took out an $11,380 line of credit.

 Over the next couple of years, Polk missed payments on the
 101-year-old home that she and her late husband purchased in 1970. In
 2007, Fannie Mae assumed the mortgage and later filed for foreclosure.

 Deputies had tried to serve Polk's eviction notice more than 30
 times before Wednesday's incident, Sommerville said. She never came to
 the door, but the notes the deputies left would always disappear, so
 they knew she was inside and ambulatory, he said.

 Sommerville said Akron is creating programs to help people keep their
 homes. But what do you do when there's just so many people out there
 and the economy is in the shape that it's in?

 He added that many businesses and individuals have offered to help Polk.

 USA TODAY:
 http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/10/ohio-woman-90-s.html 
I hear this kind of story a lot around here.  People refinanced and then 
took out lines of credit on their homes as if it was free money.  The 
selling agent for my house lives across the street and I chatted with 
her yesterday and she told me how many people have to come up with extra 
money when they sell.  The house on the same corner was sold earlier 
this summer but the owners had refinanced when it was worth $640K and 
also took out a LOC.  When they sold at around $500K they had to come up 
with an extra $27K because of the difference.

I learned my lesson about loans back about 1980 when lost my gig but 
still had loans to pay off for TTC and TM-Sidhis.   I learned that loans 
aren't free money.  Bet others can relate to that here and how that 
lesson has saved their hides (or maybe not) during this crisis.



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Warrior or Priest, which is it?

2008-10-04 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do we wish to be ruled by a warrior or a priest?
 What do the Vedas say about this?

The vedic literature favors the warrior class (kshatriyas) to govern 
society.  The intellectuals (brahmins) are best suited as advisors and 
priests.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Hey O.J./It's called kkkarma, dude!'

2008-10-04 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent 44 minutes ago 
 
 LAS VEGAS - O.J. Simpson, who went from American sports idol to 
celebrity-in-exile after he was acquitted of murder in 1995, was 
found guilty Friday of robbing two sports-memorabilia dealers at 
gunpoint in a Las Vegas hotel room. 

It's not over until it's over.  OJ still can appeal the verdict.  His 
alternative lifestyle since the LA acquittal case has been as a 
person in exile in Florida.  And, now he has a chance to live his 
life as a convict in jail.  It's actually a sad case of a man who 
rose to the heights of adulation and crash down to a level of an 
outcaste in society.


















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 The 61-year-old former football star could spend the rest of his 
life in prison. Sentencing was set for Dec. 5.
 A weary and somber Simpson released a heavy sigh as the charges 
were read by the clerk in Clark County District Court. He was 
immediately taken into custody.
 The Hall of Fame football star was convicted of kidnapping, armed 
robbery and 10 other charges for gathering up five men a year ago and 
storming into a room at a hotel-casino, where the group seized 
several game balls, plaques and photos. Prosecutors said two of the 
men with him were armed; one of them said Simpson asked him to bring 
a gun.
 The verdict came 13 years to the day after Simpson was cleared of 
murdering his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ronald 
Goldman, in Los Angeles in one of the most sensational trials of the 
20th century.
 I don't like to use the word payback, defense attorney Yale 
Galanter said. I can tell you from the beginning my biggest 
concern ... was whether or not the jury would be able to separate 
their very strong feelings about Mr. Simpson and judge him fairly and 
honestly.
 Simpson's co-defendant, Clarence C.J. Stewart, 54, also was found 
guilty on all charges in the Las Vegas case and taken into custody.
 Simpson showed little emotion as officers handcuffed him and walked 
him out of the courtroom. His sister, Carmelita Durio, sobbed behind 
him in the arms of Simpson's friend, Tom Scotto, who said I love 
you as Simpson passed by. As spectators left the courtroom, Durio 
collapsed.
 Jurors made no eye contact with the defendants as they entered the 
courtroom. They declined to answer questions after the verdict was 
read.
 Galanter said his client had expected the outcome, and in a 
courthouse conversation with an Associated Press reporter on 
Thursday, Simpson had implied as much.
 Simpson said he felt melancholy and that he was afraid that I 
won't get to go to my kids' college graduations after I managed to 
get them through college.
 Galanter said it was not a happy day for anybody. His only hope is 
the appellate process, he said.
 Clark County spokesman Dan Kulin said prosecutors would not comment 
until the case was completely resolved.
 Judge Jackie Glass made no comment other than to thank the jury for 
its service and to deny motions for the defendants to be released on 
bail.
 She refused to give the lawyers extended time to file a motion for 
new trial, which under Nevada law must be filed within seven days. 
The attorneys said they needed time to submit a voluminous record.
 I've sat through the trial, Glass said. If you want a motion for 
new trial, send me something.
 Stewart's attorney, Brent Bryson, promised to appeal.
 If there was ever a case that should have been severed in the 
history of jurisprudence, it's this case, he said of unsuccessful 
attempts to separate Stewart's case from Simpson's because of 
the spillover effect. 
 From the beginning, Simpson and his lawyers argued the incident was 
not a robbery, but an attempt to reclaim mementos that had been 
stolen from him. He said he did not ask anyone to bring a weapon and 
did not see any guns. 
 The defense portrayed Simpson as a victim of shady characters who 
wanted to make a buck off his famous name, and police officers who 
saw his arrest as an opportunity to get him and avenge his 
acquittal. 
 Prosecutors said Simpson's ownership of the memorabilia was 
irrelevant; it was still a crime to try to take things by force. 
 When they went into that room and forced the victims to the far 
side of the room, pulling out guns and yelling, `Don't let anybody 
out of here!' — six very large people detaining these two victims in 
the room with the intent to take property through force or violence 
from them — that's kidnapping, prosecutor David Roger said. 
 Kidnapping is punishable by five years to life in prison. Armed 
robbery carries a mandatory sentence of at least two years behind 
bars, and could bring as much as 30. 
 Simpson, who now lives in Miami, did not testify but was 

[FairfieldLife] -Clueless

2008-10-04 Thread do.rflex


Sarah Palin:

She then slammed Barack Obama calling him disqualified to be
President of the United States, Some of his comments that he has made
about the war that I think may — in my world– disqualifies someone
from consideration as the next commander in chief. Palin said, Some
of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there
supposedly– just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That's
reckless. So I wanted to talk about things like that. So I guess I
have to apologize about being a little annoyed, but that is also an
indication of being outside that Washington elite and being outside
the media elite also and just wanting to talk and just wanting to talk
to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand for.


Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, two weeks ago:

U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates apologized Wednesday for
recent U.S. airstrikes that have killed civilians in Afghanistan.

I offer all Afghans my sincere condolences and personal regrets
for the recent loss of innocent life as a result of coalition air
strikes, Gates said at a news conference outside the U.S. Embassy in
Kabul.

While no military has ever done more to prevent civilian
casualties, it is clear that we have to work even harder.--


Daniel Larison has been chronicling her nonsense on this on an almost
daily basis, so I will just leave you with a quote from him about the
Palin choice:

For my part, I have made no secret that I welcome McCain's defeat,
so you might say that I am so biased against the ticket that you
should ignore what I say, but it seems clear to me that the
ever-declining standards that conservatives have set for what makes a
candidate acceptable to them and the declining quality of the
political leadership they have received are very closely related.--


It is not an unfair attack to state that on matters great and small
alike, Sarah Palin has demonstrated that she has no idea what she is
talking about. And on the few occasions that she decides she should
speak freely to the press, it is clear that she is just passing on
jingoistic claptrap and unadulterated nonsense. Which, then again, may
explain her appeal to the Republican base.

~~  by John Cole, former Republican
Links here:  http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11699








[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 

1) Total federal (public) debt
2) Foreign holding of federal debt

And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To All:
 
 It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today and 
 the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA national 
 debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently forget 
 to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing cancer that 
 cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.
 
 President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his 
 administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped reduce 
 the national debt--but not by much.
 
 In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts 
 which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to the 
 national debt.
 
 Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that the 
 party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
 eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.
 
 But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Woman, 90, shoots self during eviction; Fannie Mae forgives loan

2008-10-04 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 do.rflex wrote:
  Two days after a 90-year-old Ohio woman shot herself as deputies tried
  to evict her from her foreclosed home, Fannie Mae has decided to
  forgive the delinquent loan and give her the house outright, CNN
reports.
 
  We're going to forgive whatever outstanding balance she had on the
  loan and give her the house, said Fannie Mae spokesman Brian. Given
  the circumstances, we think it's appropriate.
 
  Addie Polk of Akron is listed in critical condition at Akron General
  Medical Center. She shot herself at least twice in the upper body
  Wednesday afternoon as sheriff's deputies came to evict her from the
  house she has lived in since 1970. CNN has video of a neighbor
  describing what he saw.
 
  There's a lot of people like Miss Polk right now. That's the sad
  thing about it, said Akron City Council President Marco
  Sommerville.They might not be as old as her, some could be as old as
  her. This is just a major problem.
 
  CNN explains Polk's story:
 
  In 2004, Polk took out a 30-year, 6.375 percent mortgage for
  $45,620 with a Countrywide Home Loan office in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio.
  The same day, she also took out an $11,380 line of credit.
 
  Over the next couple of years, Polk missed payments on the
  101-year-old home that she and her late husband purchased in 1970. In
  2007, Fannie Mae assumed the mortgage and later filed for foreclosure.
 
  Deputies had tried to serve Polk's eviction notice more than 30
  times before Wednesday's incident, Sommerville said. She never came to
  the door, but the notes the deputies left would always disappear, so
  they knew she was inside and ambulatory, he said.
 
  Sommerville said Akron is creating programs to help people keep their
  homes. But what do you do when there's just so many people out there
  and the economy is in the shape that it's in?
 
  He added that many businesses and individuals have offered to help
Polk.
 
  USA TODAY:
  http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/10/ohio-woman-90-s.html 
 I hear this kind of story a lot around here.  People refinanced and
then 
 took out lines of credit on their homes as if it was free money.  The 
 selling agent for my house lives across the street and I chatted with 
 her yesterday and she told me how many people have to come up with
extra 
 money when they sell.  The house on the same corner was sold earlier 
 this summer but the owners had refinanced when it was worth $640K and 
 also took out a LOC.  When they sold at around $500K they had to
come up 
 with an extra $27K because of the difference.
 
 I learned my lesson about loans back about 1980 when lost my gig but 
 still had loans to pay off for TTC and TM-Sidhis.   I learned that
loans 
 aren't free money.  Bet others can relate to that here and how that 
 lesson has saved their hides (or maybe not) during this crisis.


The buyer HAS to *know* the loan terms and his/her *realistic* ability
to pay it back. My father repeated to me over and over to never bet
on the come. 

However, it's obvious at this point that there has been a multitude of
unscrupulous lenders who have mislead gullible and/or vulnerable
buyers with 'easy' beginning rates and false pitches of market
prosperity - solely for the purpose of closing a deal for their fee.
This is a direct consequence of 'free market' deregulation. It's like
they decriminalized fucking people over.







Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards

2008-10-04 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Oct 4, 2008, at 11:39 AM, gullible fool wrote:

Very, very nice photos, although at least one of them seems out of  
place as a Christmas card:


http://beingandseeing.com/miscellaneous/source/p1010235-edit.htm


Rick, I was just kidding--the photos are really nice.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

2008-10-04 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
 
 1) Total federal (public) debt
 2) Foreign holding of federal debt
 
 And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?
 

The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too much 
to bear for any country.  There should be a goal to at least reduce 
the debt by half in about 25 years.  Once that's reached, there 
should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another 
half.  By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant.

Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely collapse.





 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  To All:
  
  It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today 
and 
  the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA 
national 
  debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently 
forget 
  to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing cancer 
that 
  cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.
  
  President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his 
  administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped 
reduce 
  the national debt--but not by much.
  
  In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts 
  which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to 
the 
  national debt.
  
  Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that 
the 
  party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
  eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.
  
  But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

2008-10-04 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Sarah Palin:
 
 She then slammed Barack Obama calling him disqualified to be
 President of the United States, Some of his comments that he has 
made
 about the war that I think may — in my world– disqualifies someone
 from consideration as the next commander in chief. Palin 
said, Some
 of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there
 supposedly– just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That's
 reckless. So I wanted to talk about things like that. So I guess I
 have to apologize about being a little annoyed, but that is also an
 indication of being outside that Washington elite and being outside
 the media elite also and just wanting to talk and just wanting to 
talk
 to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand 
for.
 

IMO, the McCain campaign is realizing that they are behind in the 
polls.  They are taking harder swings at the illusive ball of 
victory, hoping for a grand slam.  As such, Palin has been designated 
to take swipes at Obama's increasing lead in the polls.  It's a 
double edged sword.  She can also strike out.









[FairfieldLife] Re: Depression or socialism?

2008-10-04 Thread Richard J. Williams
  Apparently the 'caste' system was first 
  brought to India from the West during 
  the 'Aryan' invasions.
 
Peter wrote:
 Williams is that an old Gujurati name?
 
Indeed, the name 'Williams' covers the earth.

There have been 'Willams' in Gujarat certainly
since before 1858, the beginning of the British 
Raj.

The Gujaratis are descended from the Aryans
who migrated to Gujarat from Georgia around
the first century BC. But there is no evidence
that the inhabitants of Lothal supported the
'caste' system.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
  
  1) Total federal (public) debt
  2) Foreign holding of federal debt
  
  And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?
  



 The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too much 
 to bear for any country. 

Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a
country with a billion people?


 There should be a goal to at least reduce 
 the debt by half in about 25 years.  

Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy?

 Once that's reached, there 
 should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another 
 half.  By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant.

So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no
national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in
cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, everything
else being equal than one with some debt? 
 
 Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely collapse.
 
You get big Palin points for skirting the question:  
What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
1) Total federal (public) debt
2) Foreign holding of federal debt
 
Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and
Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various
debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be instructive
to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an
appropriate level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust
economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no federal
debt.

Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if 
building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this
should be done in all upfront cash?

Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but
might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or
better than reducing debt, during a recession?




 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   To All:
   
   It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today 
 and 
   the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA 
 national 
   debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently 
 forget 
   to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing cancer 
 that 
   cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.
   
   President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his 
   administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped 
 reduce 
   the national debt--but not by much.
   
   In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts 
   which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to 
 the 
   national debt.
   
   Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that 
 the 
   party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
   eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.
   
   But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: FDR on TV in 1929? -- Biden gaffe

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


[snip]

 I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned the 
gaffe
 of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media 
treatment
 of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)
 
 My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New York in
 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
 broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the city
 where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on 
radio
 and TV to make speeches about it.
 
 Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp is
 swallowing it hook line a sinker.
 
 Looks like Biden was right.
 
 OffWorld



Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what could 
pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the most 
limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and the 
whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the broadcasts 
were local, not state-wide.

There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV 
broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929.

However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has been 
making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw





[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning

Graph of national debt as % of GDP

http://wasatchecon.blogspot.com/2007/05/us-national-debt-as-percentage-of-gdp.html


http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/09/28/165539.php


As I pointed out yesterday, the debt / GNP ratio was lowest (in modern
era) under Carter. Was the economy strongest during the Carter years? 

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
   
   1) Total federal (public) debt
   2) Foreign holding of federal debt
   
   And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?
   
 
 
 
  The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too much 
  to bear for any country. 
 
 Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a
 country with a billion people?
 
 
  There should be a goal to at least reduce 
  the debt by half in about 25 years.  
 
 Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy?
 
  Once that's reached, there 
  should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another 
  half.  By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant.
 
 So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no
 national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in
 cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, everything
 else being equal than one with some debt? 
  
  Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely collapse.
  
 You get big Palin points for skirting the question:  
 What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
 1) Total federal (public) debt
 2) Foreign holding of federal debt
  
 Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and
 Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various
 debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be instructive
 to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an
 appropriate level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust
 economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no federal
 debt.
 
 Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if 
 building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this
 should be done in all upfront cash?
 
 Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but
 might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or
 better than reducing debt, during a recession?
 
 
 
 
  
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
To All:

It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today 
  and 
the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA 
  national 
debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently 
  forget 
to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing cancer 
  that 
cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.

President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his 
administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped 
  reduce 
the national debt--but not by much.

In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts 
which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to 
  the 
national debt.

Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that 
  the 
party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.

But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Republicans Desperate to shutdown Palin Troopergate Investigation

2008-10-04 Thread do.rflex


Republican state legislators, at the behest of the McCain campaign,
have now filed an emergency appeal with the Alaska Supreme Court
trying to shutdown the 'Troopergate' investigation. The plaintiffs
(echoing the Bush v. Gore decision) claim the plaintiffs and Alaskans
will suffer irreparable harm if the Branchflower report is released,
as scheduled, next Friday, October 10th.

Bear in mind, the people in charge of the investigation moved the
release date up so as not to have it released on the eve of the
election. That was the original schedule long before Palin was chosen
as veep nominee. And the GOP lawyers the McCain campaign sent to
Alaska have succeeded in having almost all the parties connected to
Palin refuse to cooperate with the investigation. So it's not
completely clear just what Branchflower is going to be able to come up
with, either inculpating or exculpating.

But this is an opportunity to refocus our attention on something that
has been lost in the nonstop coverage of Palin's campaign trail lies
and botched interviews: her record in Alaska strongly suggests she
lacks the character to be trusted with high office. 

Though the troopergate scandal is tied narrowly to Palin's firing of
Alaska's top cop, Walt Monegan, the heart of the story is about a
private vendetta that Palin tried to settle using her new powers as
the chief executive of the state of Alaska. Thwarted in doing so, all
evidence suggests she fired the public official who refused to execute
her plan.

Nor is it the only example. Both as mayor and governor, Palin has
shown the tell-tale signs of a politician who hires cronies and fires
or blackballs critics. This part of Palin's record gets deep in the
weeds. So it's not as flashy as the boffo interviews or and
irresistible as the straight-up lies she's been caught in. But we need
no closer example than the Bush administration to know that people
like this are dangerous and corrosive to our public institutions.

--Josh Marshall
Links: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/221903.php







[FairfieldLife] Bailout unfair to Canadians

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk
I've read several reports in the Phoenix area over the last year that 
suggest that Canadians are responsible for anywhere from 10% to 20% of 
all real estate purchases in the area.

This has been an ideal time for Canadians to purchase American second 
homes: (1) the Canadian dollar has never been stronger than at any 
time in the past 30 years; and (2) real estate prices are at very low 
prices.

But the bailout may rescue the real estate market, bringing prices up, 
making purchases more expensive for Canadians.

Gosh, I wonder whether this is a violation in any way of NAFTA?  I'm 
only half joking when I say that because I know there are oodles of 
provisions in it and other trade agreements between the two countries 
regarding unfair subsidies.

Would this be an unfair subsidy and, if so, is it prohibited under 
NAFTA?



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What are you-when your not having thoughts?'

2008-10-04 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pure energy and intelligence.
 (Hopefully)
 �
 _say it ain't so...


What are you when you ARE having thoughts?


Lawson (lots more quotes appropriate above, but left 'em out...)



[FairfieldLife] Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
But whats Truth got to do with it?

Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. Speaking
right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently
lying to the American people and world.  

With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in
over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized. 

And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so clear
he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all.

It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but
don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can be
(and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what handlers
have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it
OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a
cooked-up lies from sanity and truth?

(But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I held
their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing and
cute. Except when she hit my shoes. )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
 
 [snip]
 
  I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned the 
 gaffe
  of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media 
 treatment
  of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)
  
  My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New York in
  1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
  broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the city
  where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on 
 radio
  and TV to make speeches about it.
  
  Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp is
  swallowing it hook line a sinker.
  
  Looks like Biden was right.
  
  OffWorld
 
 
 
 Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what could 
 pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the most 
 limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and the 
 whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the broadcasts 
 were local, not state-wide.
 
 There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV 
 broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929.
 
 However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has been 
 making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw





[FairfieldLife] Re: Bailout unfair to Canadians

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I've read several reports in the Phoenix area over the last year that 
 suggest that Canadians are responsible for anywhere from 10% to 20% of 
 all real estate purchases in the area.
 
 This has been an ideal time for Canadians to purchase American second 
 homes: (1) the Canadian dollar has never been stronger than at any 
 time in the past 30 years; and (2) real estate prices are at very low 
 prices.
 
 But the bailout may rescue the real estate market, bringing prices up, 
 making purchases more expensive for Canadians.
 
 Gosh, I wonder whether this is a violation in any way of NAFTA?  I'm 
 only half joking when I say that because I know there are oodles of 
 provisions in it and other trade agreements between the two countries 
 regarding unfair subsidies.
 
 Would this be an unfair subsidy and, if so, is it prohibited under 
 NAFTA?


Funny point.

But highlights a major problem with the bailout. it indirectly props
up housing prices above levels consistent with the fundamentals. this
imbalance with continue to create problems and haunt the economy and
tax payer until housing prices are left to fall to fundamentals-based
levels.  



[FairfieldLife] America Is About To be Reintroduced To Rev. Wright

2008-10-04 Thread do.rflex



The GOP is desperate. Expect the worst of the worst to
start hitting here soon. Jeremiah Wright is overdue for 
his second act, as well as Ayers, the Muslim crap, and 
anything else desperate Republicans can fabricate. At 
this point, they literally have nothing to lose.

~~  Markos Moulitsas
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/1/165238/584/399/616938


Flop sweat smells like fear:

Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly
aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama's character, believing that to
win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions
about the Democrat's judgment, honesty and personal associations,
several top Republicans said.

With just a month to go until Election Day, McCain's team has
decided that its emphasis on the senator's biography as a war hero,
experienced lawmaker and straight-talking maverick is insufficient to
close a growing gap with Obama.

The Arizonan's campaign is also eager to move the conversation
away from the economy, an issue that strongly favors Obama and has
helped him to a lead in many recent polls.

We're going to get a little tougher, a senior Republican
operative said, indicating that a fresh batch of television ads is
coming. We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon.
There's no question that we have to change the subject here, said the
operative, who was not authorized to discuss strategy and spoke on the
condition of anonymity.


In other words, they are going to behave like Republicans in October.
No one could have ever predicted this would happen. That could explain
this pointless piece in the NY Times today about William Ayers (long
story short- there really is no relationship there), and could explain
why the wingnuttosphere was whipping themselves into a froth about the
FBI's raiding the office of Larry Walsh, when it turns out they did
nothing of the sort.

The thing about this is that while it will no doubt infuriate folks
like me, the good news is that we know some stuff about negative
advertising- yes, it works, but it also drags down the negatives of
the people launching it.

Additionally, we know that there are ways to combat negative
campaigning, and that the Obama campaign is aware of this and knows
what they are doing- on many of the things that will be brought up,
the country has already dealt with them and moved on.

Another factor is the enthusiasm factor- most of the Obama supporters
I know would crawl over glass to vote for him in November. And
finally, for those of you who are Michael Pfau fans, we know that
elections usually end badly for folks who never get out of the
negative campaigning phase of the election cycle.

In other words, bring it on. McCain will continue to trash his brand
as a straight-talking bi-partisan maverick, the media will be
repulsed, and it really is too little too late.

I really am surprised that they thought they could run a substance
free biography based campaign during a two-front war and an economic
crisis, but by now I should never be surprised by Republican stupidity.

~~  by John Cole, former Republican
Key links here: http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11715 







[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins

2008-10-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
wrote:
  
snip 
  This happened only about six weeks ago. The smear
  was undoubtedly given to her by one of her handlers
  to use as she saw fit.
  
  What on earth makes you think the McCain campaign
  cares if it's been debunked??
 
 It screws up his off-the-cuff, ad hoc, inner-world,
 unsubstantiated, unresearched theory?

He didn't have to research it, just read the
article he himself cited. Apparently he only
skimmed the first couple of paragraphs, then
assumed he magically knew the whole story,
including where she got the idea for the attack
and why she decided to use it.

What's really funny is that there's more basis
in reality for Palin's attack than there is for
Barry's fantasies about it. And then he bases his
subject heading on his fantasies, as if they
were established fact.

Remember last week when he mocked people here
by accusing them of calling McCain a hero?

Nobody on FFL had called McCain a hero except
Barry himself, in a previous spate of mockery
of McCain.

The Republicans generally know when they're
making stuff up; they just don't care. I don't
think Barry is even aware that's what he's
doing.

It's no wonder he's so threatened by
solipsists, even to the point of punching them
in the stomach to get them to shut up.




[FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab News Publishes...)

2008-10-04 Thread bob_brigante


 Ha Ha! Classic!
 
 

***

I'm sure everybody is aware that ignorance is not solely held by 
towelheads:

How does the U.S. compare with other countries in terms of belief in 
evolution? Not so hot. A study of attitudes in 34 countries published 
in Science in 2006 shows that the United States ranks last in popular 
acceptance of evolution except for Turkey. Almost 40 percent of 
Americans in this study flatly rejected evolution...

http://tinyurl.com/3kvoo3



[FairfieldLife] McCain coffee mug

2008-10-04 Thread bob_brigante
 [Benedict Arnold, War Hero Large Mug] Benedict Arnold was a war hero
too


[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

2008-10-04 Thread feste37
I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's nonsense. More than
one would like to think, I imagine. It really is fantastic, that she
can go around saying, in effect, that every time she reveals herself
to be an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part of an
elite. She is certainly right about that. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Sarah Palin:
 
 She then slammed Barack Obama calling him disqualified to be
 President of the United States, Some of his comments that he has made
 about the war that I think may — in my world– disqualifies someone
 from consideration as the next commander in chief. Palin said, Some
 of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there
 supposedly– just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That's
 reckless. So I wanted to talk about things like that. So I guess I
 have to apologize about being a little annoyed, but that is also an
 indication of being outside that Washington elite and being outside
 the media elite also and just wanting to talk and just wanting to talk
 to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand for.
 
 
 Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, two weeks ago:
 
 U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates apologized Wednesday for
 recent U.S. airstrikes that have killed civilians in Afghanistan.
 
 I offer all Afghans my sincere condolences and personal regrets
 for the recent loss of innocent life as a result of coalition air
 strikes, Gates said at a news conference outside the U.S. Embassy in
 Kabul.
 
 While no military has ever done more to prevent civilian
 casualties, it is clear that we have to work even harder.--
 
 
 Daniel Larison has been chronicling her nonsense on this on an almost
 daily basis, so I will just leave you with a quote from him about the
 Palin choice:
 
 For my part, I have made no secret that I welcome McCain's defeat,
 so you might say that I am so biased against the ticket that you
 should ignore what I say, but it seems clear to me that the
 ever-declining standards that conservatives have set for what makes a
 candidate acceptable to them and the declining quality of the
 political leadership they have received are very closely related.--
 
 
 It is not an unfair attack to state that on matters great and small
 alike, Sarah Palin has demonstrated that she has no idea what she is
 talking about. And on the few occasions that she decides she should
 speak freely to the press, it is clear that she is just passing on
 jingoistic claptrap and unadulterated nonsense. Which, then again, may
 explain her appeal to the Republican base.
 
 ~~  by John Cole, former Republican
 Links here:  http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11699





[FairfieldLife] Beyond the observable universe...

2008-10-04 Thread bob_brigante

Hundreds of galaxy clusters are flowing toward the same spot in the sky
beyond the observable universe, a University of Hawaii astronomer and
NASA team members have discovered.

http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d





[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

2008-10-04 Thread bob_brigante

... she is not part of an
 elite. She is certainly right about that.







[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

2008-10-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's 
 nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. 
 It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, 
 in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be 
 an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part 
 of an elite. She is certainly right about that. 

My bet, however, is that she honestly believes
that she IS a part of a very small and very 
important elite -- God's elite.

My take on the woman since seeing her give that
talk to the graduating missionaries of her old
church, is that she's a Class A Religious Fanatic.
Total nutcase. She said then -- and she believes 
now -- that God has big plans for her. 

She doesn't believe she's destined to be the Vice
President; she believes that she's destined to
be President. And she believes that God wants this
to happen. Which leads me to what Sarah Palin must 
think of Barrack Obama, the man who is currently
beating the pants off of her and the wrinkled old
guy who is merely a temporary obstacle to her
doing God's work and becoming President. 

Think about it -- if she really DOES believe that 
God has big plans for her, what must slipping 
lower and lower in the polls leave her thinking 
that Obama is, or works for?  

Could it be...Satan?

Think this is silly? Watch her face and listen
to her voice every time she talks about Obama 
lately. Come to your own conclusions. 





[FairfieldLife] CFLs may cut mercury exposure

2008-10-04 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/4c6abe http://tinyurl.com/4c6abe
Fluorescent lighting 
http://home.howstuffworks.com/fluorescent-lamp.htm uses less energy
than comparably bright incandescent bulbs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_light_bulb  do. So switching
to fluorescents will shave your energy bill. The big surprise: Relying
on fluorescent lights may also cut how much mercury — that toxic
metallic element — is released into the environment each year.



That finding was not intuitively obvious, since fluorescent lights
contain mercury and the bulbs they're replacing do not. But new
calculations by a team of Yale University http://www.yale.edu/ 
scientists now indicate that when the electricity used to power lighting
comes primarily from coal-fired generating plants, the energy savings
associated with fluorescent bulbs will translate into reductions in coal
burning. And since most coal contains small but substantial quantities
of mercury, burning less coal will reduce the electric industry's
release of mercury into the environment. In fact, most mercury emissions
in the United States today trace to coal use
http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs095-01/ .




[FairfieldLife] Scathing commentary on Sarah Palin by feminist Eve Ensler

2008-10-04 Thread do.rflex


Watch: http://www.goleft.tv/view.asp?c=27v=1855



[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

2008-10-04 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's 
  nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. 
  It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, 
  in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be 
  an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part 
  of an elite. She is certainly right about that. 
 
 My bet, however, is that she honestly believes
 that she IS a part of a very small and very 
 important elite -- God's elite.
 

**

I don't see her as a zealot, but just a lightweight with hazy 
thinking who gives lip service to standard Christian right thinking. 
This writer suggests that her good looks help promote the sale of 
that thinking in the marketplace of ideas:

...Sarah Palin represents the state-of-the-art version of a 
particular type of woman—let's call her the Sexy Puritan—that's 
become a familiar and potent figure in the culture war in recent 
years.

Sexy Puritans have been around for a while. Anita Bryant, the Miss 
America runner-up turned anti-gay crusader in the 1970s, was an early 
exemplar of the trend. The young Britney Spears, provocatively 
dressed and loudly proclaiming her virginity, is a more modern 
version, though that didn't turn out so well. Elisabeth Hasselbeck, 
the most conservative member of The View, has a bit of the Sexy 
Puritan about her, as does Monica Goodling, the former aide to 
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales who admitted to engaging in 
improperly political hiring practices, including the dismissal of a 
career prosecutor Goodling believed to be a lesbian. (Puritanical 
footnote: Goodling is reputed to have been responsible for the 
draping of nude statues at the Department of Justice.) 


Sexy Puritans engage in the culture war on two levels—not simply by 
advocating conservative positions on hot-button social issues but by 
embodying nonthreatening mainstream standards of female beauty and 
behavior at the same time. The net result is a paradox, a bit of 
cognitive dissonance very useful to the cultural right: You get a 
little thrill along with your traditional values, a wink along with 
the wagging finger. Somehow, you don't feel quite as much like a prig 
as you expected to.

http://www.slate.com/id/2200814/




[FairfieldLife] Karma-- Coming Home to Roost for US -- or bush supporters?

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
B and or others said the US is in for it -- having started an invasion
abroad -- etc. 

Assuming for sake of discussion that karma is a valid principal -- how
does this work. Most here did not support Bush. In was both grand and
subtle, we have fought against him and his madness for most of the
decade. Why would the karma from his war come to us. Because our taxes
-- mandated by the govt paid for it? Seems a weak link -- particularly
since our taxes di not pay for it -- the chinese did. Will China go to
hell in a handbasket for loaning themoney to fight the war?
  
How much karmas national and how much individual (or perhaps group)? 

Bush and republicans have their karma coming due for lying and
cheating into a war. And then managing it with disasterous ineptitude.
Will those opposing the war receeve the same karmic blast -- simply
because they are unfortunate enough to live in the same country as
Bush and his devil friends? Seems thats suffering enough.

Take it back a step -- and some say getting Bush as president is our
karma. if so, is it a seed within a seed. We really f'ed up somewhere
in the past so we got Bush as president -- and contained within that
is all of the karma of Iraq?

If some do good and great things, is the karma shared with all
Americans? What if they are Californians? Is it shared mostly with
them? That is -- there are many groups, boundaries, etc. Why is the
American bucket (for karma) any more significant than any of the othr
groups and subsets to which we are connected? 

By hosing Iraq, did we suddenly create the good karma to get an
intelligent and considerate president in Nov? 







[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
Dana Perino -- the presidents press secretary -- is a more subtle
paradox. She appears articulate, smart, well informed, is attractive
and vibrant -- and seems nimble and fast on her feet. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dana-perino-02.jpg

I find her enticing to watch -- even when defending and spinning Bush
and Bush policies.

But it appears to be a its a veneer -- 

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://toohugeworld.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/dana-perino.jpgimgrefurl=http://toohugeworld.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/short-memory/h=321w=451sz=35tbnid=j8zG7eWhKAEJ::tbnh=90tbnw=127prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddana%2Bperinohl=enusg=__N0LS1zcU5PkodN1wNCLI5gdENzI=sa=Xoi=image_resultresnum=2ct=imagecd=1
 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's 
   nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. 
   It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, 
   in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be 
   an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part 
   of an elite. She is certainly right about that. 
  
  My bet, however, is that she honestly believes
  that she IS a part of a very small and very 
  important elite -- God's elite.
  
 
 **
 
 I don't see her as a zealot, but just a lightweight with hazy 
 thinking who gives lip service to standard Christian right thinking. 
 This writer suggests that her good looks help promote the sale of 
 that thinking in the marketplace of ideas:
 
 ...Sarah Palin represents the state-of-the-art version of a 
 particular type of woman—let's call her the Sexy Puritan—that's 
 become a familiar and potent figure in the culture war in recent 
 years.
 
 Sexy Puritans have been around for a while. Anita Bryant, the Miss 
 America runner-up turned anti-gay crusader in the 1970s, was an early 
 exemplar of the trend. The young Britney Spears, provocatively 
 dressed and loudly proclaiming her virginity, is a more modern 
 version, though that didn't turn out so well. Elisabeth Hasselbeck, 
 the most conservative member of The View, has a bit of the Sexy 
 Puritan about her, as does Monica Goodling, the former aide to 
 Attorney General Alberto Gonzales who admitted to engaging in 
 improperly political hiring practices, including the dismissal of a 
 career prosecutor Goodling believed to be a lesbian. (Puritanical 
 footnote: Goodling is reputed to have been responsible for the 
 draping of nude statues at the Department of Justice.) 
 
 
 Sexy Puritans engage in the culture war on two levels—not simply by 
 advocating conservative positions on hot-button social issues but by 
 embodying nonthreatening mainstream standards of female beauty and 
 behavior at the same time. The net result is a paradox, a bit of 
 cognitive dissonance very useful to the cultural right: You get a 
 little thrill along with your traditional values, a wink along with 
 the wagging finger. Somehow, you don't feel quite as much like a prig 
 as you expected to.
 
 http://www.slate.com/id/2200814/





[FairfieldLife] McCain Campaign Mngr Rick Davis on Smearing your Opponent

2008-10-04 Thread do.rflex


The premise of any smear campaign rests on a central truth of
politics: Most of us will vote for a candidate we like and respect,
even if we don't agree with him on every issue. But if you can cripple
a voter's basic trust in a candidate, you can probably turn his vote.
The idea is to find some piece of personal information that is tawdry
enough to raise doubts, repelling a candidate's natural supporters.  [...]

It's not necessary, however, for a smear to be true to be
effective. The most effective smears are based on a kernel of truth
and applied in a way that exploits a candidate's political weakness.

Rebutting tawdry attacks focuses public attention on them, and
prevents the campaign from talking issues. 

~~  McCain campaign manager Rick Davis
Boston Globe: http://tinyurl.com/53pjdo



[FairfieldLife] a very peaceful ''hurricane''

2008-10-04 Thread michael
India, Land of the Veda: Tour on Maharishi's Vedic Science by renowned brain 
research expert an 'overwhelming success'
by Global Good News staff writer

Global Good News    Translate This Article
4 October 2008

Speaking on Maharishi Global Family Chat on 1 October, Raja Harris Kaplan, Raja 
of Invincible India, the land of the Veda, for the Global Country of World 
Peace, introduced Dr Alarik Arenander and Dr Cynthia Arenander and spoke of the 
'overwhelming success' of their tour of Northern India. The Arenanders are 
presenting Maharishi's Vedic Science to thousands of people there from the 
perspective of modern science and brain wave research. 

Raja Harris began by saying that recently in India he 'had met a force of 
nature, a very peaceful ''hurricane'' by the name of Hurricane Alarik and 
Hurricane Cynthia Arenander, who have come through India with a hurricane of 
peace and enlightenment'. (Raja Harris was alluding humorously to a recent 
series of storms in the western hemisphere.) 

Raja Harris said that 'this most fabulous couple' are still in India, and 
introduced the Arenanders, who 'by their own look and feeling, even before 
words start, convince people to practise Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's technologies 
of consciousness. And then when they speak, everyone says ''I want to start 
right now.'' ' 

Speaking from Allahabad, India, Dr Alarik Arenander explained that they are in 
the middle of a six-week tour of India. He expressed their thanks to Raja 
Harris and Dr Girish Varma*, the leader of the 'gigantic' Indian organization 
of the Global Country of World Peace, for all their guidance, bliss, and 
support during the tour. Dr Alarik also thanked and praised all the individual 
organizers of the tour for 'so kindly taking care of everything' and looking 
after them so well. 

Dr Arenander explained they have given 55 presentations to literally thousands 
of people in groups of 200-500—including government officials, business people, 
students, teachers, Rotary members—many of whom are leaders in business and 
government institutions. 

Dr Alarik said that when they speak the people are 'enraptured with Maharishi's 
knowledge. It comes back to them in this logical, simple, research-oriented 
format, but it is Maharishi they love automatically, and [the knowledge] coming 
back in this scientific garb, they like it. They just so much appreciate it 
that everybody wants to start' the practice of Transcendental Meditation. 

Dr Alarik showed slides of the faculty and Transcendental Meditation Teachers 
working at Allahabad University—where Maharishi himself was a student—which has 
100,000 students. There was a great response to a lecture the Arenanders gave 
to the leaders of the university, and Maharishi University of Management has 
organized a team of Transcendental Meditation Teachers to be in Allahabad to 
help structure a programme for teaching the many individuals at the university. 

Dr Cynthia Arenander added that 'the air there is so traditional, and to think 
that Maharishi was there is a very special feeling.' 

Dr Alarik showed the EEG (electroencephalograph) reading for a local 
practitioner of Transcendental Meditation, which confirmed again 'that indeed, 
at the beginning of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation Technique, within a 
very few moments, there is a phenomenon in the brain, a ''neuro-switch'', in 
which there is a very rapid and highly sustained onset of brain orderliness.' 

The appearance of pure alpha frequencies, coherence, and power is a 'very great 
indicator, a characteristic of the experience of Atma [the Self], the 
experience of Turiya [the fourth state of consciousness], Transcendental 
Consciousness. There is a sustained, very high level of coherence between the 
two sides of the brain and especially in the pre-frontal cortex, the learning 
or control centre of our lives,' Dr Arenander explained. 

'This phenomenon is unique to Transcendental Meditation, and is at the basis of 
all good things that come from the brain, and therefore all good things that 
come in the lives of those practising Transcendental Meditation.' 

Dr Cynthia added that 'a lot of the success is due to the old saying, ''Seeing 
is believing.'' ' When people actually see rather than just hear about all the 
scientific research, 'a switch goes on, she said. 'We feel that the doctors, 
especially, are saying that now they are given the documentation, this logic, 
that's how the brain is trained'—when they grasp the logic, 'as one doctor from 
Jabalpur Hospital said, ''Now you have our stamp of approval. We've always 
wanted to believe about Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation since Maharishi 
comes from this area, but now that we can actual see it, you have our stamp of 
approval.' This doctor will be learning Transcendental Meditation himself. 

Global Good News will continue to report on the Arenanders' tour of India in 
the coming days. 

* Dr Girish Varma is National Director of 

[FairfieldLife] Palin: Barky is palling around with terrorists

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk
At least someone in this campaign has some balls.

This to me is one of the main reasons this man cannot be 
president...and the ties to William Ayers run deep.

Talk about vetting.  Who the hell vetted Obama during the primaries 
about this?

What I'd like to know is: how many Americans are actually aware of 
the William Ayers connection?  Is it a large or small percentage?
And of those that know about it, how many will NOT vote for Obama 
because of it?  If it's a large percentage, you can bet that a whole 
lotta money will be spent informing the public of the connection.

And please don't retort with: Oh, having a connection with William 
Ayers is something that mainstream people in Chicago have been doing 
for years; why Mayor Daley has worked with Ayers.

Well, two wrongs don't make a right.  And, besides, Barky is supposed 
to be different; he's supposed to be change we can believe it...a 
leader who doesn't do things just because everyone else in the crowd 
is doing it.

If Barky is just going to be one more run-of-the-mill politicians, 
why do we need him?  What we need is a REAL leader; someone who would 
have had the courage and fortitude to say: I don't care how many of 
my fellow Chicago politicians approve of and work with this self-
admitted terrorist, I won't have anything to do with him.

But, no, Barky is NOT a unique thinker, he is NOT someone who will go 
AGAINST the crowd; he is a go-with-the-flow kind of guy who will, 
obviously, give in to peer-group pressure.

This is not a leader; this is a follower.

We need a leader as president.

As Palin says: This is not a man who sees America as you see America 
and as I see America. Barky is, simply, unacceptable to be president.

---

Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists  
 
Oct 4 03:32 PM US/Eastern
By JIM KUHNHENN
Associated Press Writer 

'America Needs to Know This'

 
  ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) - Republican vice presidential candidate 
Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of palling 
around with terrorists because of his association with a former 
1960s radical, stepping up the campaign's effort to portray Obama as 
unacceptable to American voters. 

Palin's reference was to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group 
the Weather Underground. Its members took credit for bombings, 
including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol, 
during the tumultuous Vietnam War era four decades ago. Obama, who 
was a child when the group was active, served on a charity board with 
Ayers several years ago and has denounced his radical views and 
activities. 

The Republican campaign, falling behind Obama in polls, plans to make 
attacks on Obama's character a centerpiece of presidential candidate 
John McCain's message with a month remaining before Election Day. 

Palin told a group of donors at a private airport, Our opponent ... 
is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, 
imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would 
target their own country. She also said, This is not a man who sees 
America as you see America and as I see America. 

Palin, Alaska's governor, said that donors on a greeting line had 
encouraged her and McCain to get tougher on Obama. She said an aide 
then advised her, Sarah, the gloves are off, the heels are on, go 
get to them. 

The escalated effort to attack Obama's character dovetails with TV 
ads by outside groups questioning Obama's ties to Ayers, convicted 
former Obama fundraiser Antoin Tony Rezko and Obama's former 
pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. 

Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He and 
Obama live in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood and served together on 
the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops 
community groups to help the poor. Obama left the board in December 
2002. 

Obama was the first chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a 
school-reform group of which Ayers was a founder. Ayers also held a 
meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran 
for office in the mid-1990s. 

Palin cited a New York Times story published Saturday that detailed 
Obama's relationship with Ayers. In an interview with CBS News 
earlier in the week, Palin didn't name any newspapers or magazines 
that had shaped her view of the world. 

Summing up its findings, the Times wrote: A review of records of the 
schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, 
suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. 
Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has 
Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions 
of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called 'somebody who engaged in detestable 
acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.' 

Earlier Saturday, Palin spent 35 minutes at a diner in Greenwood 
Village where she met with Blue Star Moms, a support group of 
families whose sons or daughters are serving in 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk
According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of 
getting their facts wrong in the debate.

Here's their full fact check on the debate:

http://tinyurl.com/4fpela





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 But whats Truth got to do with it?
 
 Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. 
Speaking
 right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently
 lying to the American people and world.  
 
 With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in
 over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized. 
 
 And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so 
clear
 he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all.
 
 It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but
 don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can 
be
 (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what 
handlers
 have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it
 OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a
 cooked-up lies from sanity and truth?
 
 (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I 
held
 their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing 
and
 cute. Except when she hit my shoes. )
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
  
  [snip]
  
   I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned 
the 
  gaffe
   of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media 
  treatment
   of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)
   
   My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New 
York in
   1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
   broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the 
city
   where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on 
  radio
   and TV to make speeches about it.
   
   Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp 
is
   swallowing it hook line a sinker.
   
   Looks like Biden was right.
   
   OffWorld
  
  
  
  Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what 
could 
  pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the 
most 
  limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and the 
  whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the 
broadcasts 
  were local, not state-wide.
  
  There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV 
  broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929.
  
  However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has 
been 
  making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
 





[FairfieldLife] Who's more of an elitist/nutcase/religious fanatic: Barry or Sarah?

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's 
  nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. 
  It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, 
  in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be 
  an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part 
  of an elite. She is certainly right about that. 
 
 My bet, however, is that she honestly believes
 that she IS a part of a very small and very 
 important elite -- God's elite.
 
 My take on the woman since seeing her give that
 talk to the graduating missionaries of her old
 church, is that she's a Class A Religious Fanatic.
 Total nutcase. She said then -- and she believes 
 now -- that God has big plans for her. 

[snip]

No matter how nutty you may paint Sarah Palin as a religious fanatic, 
Barry, nothing she has ever done in the spiritual field comes close 
to the fanaticism and nuttiness that you are/were involved in 
spiritually.  See:

http://tinyurl.com/3uytfb

That's why it is so surprising that you are so eager to cast 
dispersions on her.



[FairfieldLife] Re: McCain Campaign Mngr Rick Davis on Smearing your Opponent

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 The premise of any smear campaign rests on a central truth of
 politics: Most of us will vote for a candidate we like and respect,
 even if we don't agree with him on every issue. But if you can 
cripple
 a voter's basic trust in a candidate, you can probably turn his 
vote.
 The idea is to find some piece of personal information that is 
tawdry
 enough to raise doubts, repelling a candidate's natural 
supporters.  [...]




Fortunately for the McCain campaign, there is public information 
about Barky that can be used against him.




 
 It's not necessary, however, for a smear to be true to be
 effective.


Fortunately for the McCain campaign, there is stuff about Barky that 
can be used against him that is true.




 The most effective smears are based on a kernel of truth
 and applied in a way that exploits a candidate's political weakness.



Fortunately for the McCain campaign, there is information about Barky 
that are not just kernels but whole cobs.



 
 Rebutting tawdry attacks focuses public attention on them, and
 prevents the campaign from talking issues. 
 
 ~~  McCain campaign manager Rick Davis
 Boston Globe: http://tinyurl.com/53pjdo





[FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960

2008-10-04 Thread do.rflex


http://www.boingboing.net/200810011126.jpg 


Read stunned viewer comments:
http://lpcoverlover.com/2008/09/28/god-have-mercy/




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[FairfieldLife] I confess -- I graduated from U of Calif and there were radicals there. Ban Me!

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
I assume you are satirizing the loony logic of some of our other
astute posters here. 

Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Does
this imply that all graduate of U of I should be banned from being
president because of the Ayers connections? 

You went to an University whose name sake, president and chief
scientists are nuts -- or at least say very nutty things.  And the
goofiest thing -- you flew everyday at this so called university.
Should people who deal with you on insurance matters be told the truth
about you!

I went to the University of California. Angela Davis taught there.
Herbert Marcuse taught there. both avowed Communists and radicals.
Eldridge Cleaver, Tim Leary, Abbie Hoffman, Tom Hayden, Jerry Rubin
all spoke there. Students spoke at rally's and advocated open
revolution. It was the hotbed and leading wave of student and natioanl
protests, People took drugs there. Martin Luther King spoke there and
he advocated strong resistance against the government. Heck, Ronald
Reagan was governor of an head of the Board of Regents when I was
there -- when no attacking we students from his helicopters filled
with tear gas -- and apparently he caused the meltdown of the US
economy. Bobby and Jack Kennedy spoke there -- and they palled around
with mobsters, and started the (serious part of) the war in Vietnam
-- which became an immoral and political/economic disaster. Should I
and all other graduates of UC be banned from being president because
of the Davis/Marcuse/Revolutionaries/Drug/Reagan/mobster/Kennedy
connection?

(And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's
problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and
were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter
from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of
us for our connections to Peter?) 




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 At least someone in this campaign has some balls.
 
 This to me is one of the main reasons this man cannot be 
 president...and the ties to William Ayers run deep.
 
 Talk about vetting.  Who the hell vetted Obama during the primaries 
 about this?
 
 What I'd like to know is: how many Americans are actually aware of 
 the William Ayers connection?  Is it a large or small percentage?
 And of those that know about it, how many will NOT vote for Obama 
 because of it?  If it's a large percentage, you can bet that a whole 
 lotta money will be spent informing the public of the connection.
 
 And please don't retort with: Oh, having a connection with William 
 Ayers is something that mainstream people in Chicago have been doing 
 for years; why Mayor Daley has worked with Ayers.
 
 Well, two wrongs don't make a right.  And, besides, Barky is supposed 
 to be different; he's supposed to be change we can believe it...a 
 leader who doesn't do things just because everyone else in the crowd 
 is doing it.
 
 If Barky is just going to be one more run-of-the-mill politicians, 
 why do we need him?  What we need is a REAL leader; someone who would 
 have had the courage and fortitude to say: I don't care how many of 
 my fellow Chicago politicians approve of and work with this self-
 admitted terrorist, I won't have anything to do with him.
 
 But, no, Barky is NOT a unique thinker, he is NOT someone who will go 
 AGAINST the crowd; he is a go-with-the-flow kind of guy who will, 
 obviously, give in to peer-group pressure.
 
 This is not a leader; this is a follower.
 
 We need a leader as president.
 
 As Palin says: This is not a man who sees America as you see America 
 and as I see America. Barky is, simply, unacceptable to be president.
 
 ---
 
 Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists  
  
 Oct 4 03:32 PM US/Eastern
 By JIM KUHNHENN
 Associated Press Writer 
 
 'America Needs to Know This'
 
  
   ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) - Republican vice presidential candidate 
 Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of palling 
 around with terrorists because of his association with a former 
 1960s radical, stepping up the campaign's effort to portray Obama as 
 unacceptable to American voters. 
 
 Palin's reference was to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group 
 the Weather Underground. Its members took credit for bombings, 
 including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol, 
 during the tumultuous Vietnam War era four decades ago. Obama, who 
 was a child when the group was active, served on a charity board with 
 Ayers several years ago and has denounced his radical views and 
 activities. 
 
 The Republican campaign, falling behind Obama in polls, plans to make 
 attacks on Obama's character a centerpiece of presidential candidate 
 John McCain's message with a month remaining before Election Day. 
 
 Palin told a group of donors at a private airport, Our opponent ... 
 is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960

2008-10-04 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Those people don't get it - the mock-up of that album cover was 
originally created (not very famously any more i guess) as a joke.  That's 
actually an aspiring twenty-three year old comedian named Allen Konigsberg (aka 
Woody Allen) on the right.  The other two in the picture were secretaries in 
the Brill Building where Allen's agent at the time had his office.  As I'm sure 
Bill Maher would tell you, he's not the originator of this kind of humor!

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:02 PM








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[FairfieldLife] Amma's US tour dates

2008-10-04 Thread gullible fool

 
http://www.amritapuri.org/yatra/
 
Below are the tentative dates of USA yatra, they may be subjected to change

San Ramon, CA
Nov 23 to 25: Public Programs
Nov 26 to 28: San Ramon Retreat

Michigan
Nov 30 eve and Dec 1:  Public Programs
Dec 2 - 4 : Michigan Retreat


Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

2008-10-04 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of
 getting their facts wrong in the debate.

Those fact-checks comparing Biden to Palin in the debate, are more like
comparing the gravitous weight of the Obama mistake that he had been
married 16 years, not 15, compared to McCain's consitent lies about his
own voting record, and stinging character assinations of Obama.

They are of whole a different order of fact discrepancy

OffWorld



 Here's their full fact check on the debate:

 http://tinyurl.com/4fpela http://tinyurl.com/4fpela





 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , new.morning no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  But whats Truth got to do with it?
 
  Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe.
 Speaking
  right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently
  lying to the American people and world.
 
  With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in
  over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized.
 
  And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so
 clear
  he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all.
 
  It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but
  don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can
 be
  (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what
 handlers
  have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it
  OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a
  cooked-up lies from sanity and truth?
 
  (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I
 held
  their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing
 and
  cute. Except when she hit my shoes. )
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings
 no_reply@
   wrote:
  
  
   [snip]
  
I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned
 the
   gaffe
of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media
   treatment
of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)
   
My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New
 York in
1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the
 city
where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on
   radio
and TV to make speeches about it.
   
Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp
 is
swallowing it hook line a sinker.
   
Looks like Biden was right.
   
OffWorld
   
  
  
   Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what
 could
   pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the
 most
   limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and the
   whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the
 broadcasts
   were local, not state-wide.
  
   There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV
   broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929.
  
   However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has
 been
   making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of 
 getting their facts wrong in the debate.
 
 Here's their full fact check on the debate:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/4fpela

A lot of the fact misstatements are due to ineadequate time to
explain context and the fuller issues. Short cut statments need to be
made in 90 seconds. I didn't hear anything from Biden that was
applaulling or which could not have been clarified with more time. I
did from palin. She made BOLD FACED lies. Winking and smiling and darn
tootin it up as she did so. He is less scrupulous than a used car
salesman in a navy town when the ship is in. 

1) She repeated said Obama would raise taxes on regular people, the
middle class. Thats a bold, bald-faced lie if you define middle class
as making under 250k a year. (I know MCain defines it as making less
than 5 mil -- but that speaks for itself. Obama proposes a tax cut for
those making under $125 k. She was lying through her teeth -- but
maybe its ok -- she winked. (which is NOT blinking mind you)

2) She said McCain would lower taxes for everyone in the audience. He
is not lowering their marginal tax rate for personal income -- which
her words imply. He does propose lowering business taxes and capital
gains / dividends. That is NOT what her statement said or implied.

(Actually, I am for a subset of that -- to eliminate double taxation.
Tax income once -- either a business tax or dividend tax; and income
or capital gains made from saved income -- but not both.) 

3) Energy policy -- some bold faced lies about the obama energy plan
-- and the merits of the mcCain plan.

4) Having a time table for Iraq is the white flag of surrender -- I
guess Bush and the president of Iraq are raising the white flag of
surrender then.

There were more.


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  But whats Truth got to do with it?
  
  Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. 
 Speaking
  right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently
  lying to the American people and world.  
  
  With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in
  over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized. 
  
  And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so 
 clear
  he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all.
  
  It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but
  don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can 
 be
  (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what 
 handlers
  have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it
  OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a
  cooked-up lies from sanity and truth?
  
  (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I 
 held
  their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing 
 and
  cute. Except when she hit my shoes. )
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
 no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   
   
   [snip]
   
I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned 
 the 
   gaffe
of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media 
   treatment
of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)

My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New 
 York in
1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the 
 city
where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on 
   radio
and TV to make speeches about it.

Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp 
 is
swallowing it hook line a sinker.

Looks like Biden was right.

OffWorld
   
   
   
   Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what 
 could 
   pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the 
 most 
   limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and the 
   whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the 
 broadcasts 
   were local, not state-wide.
   
   There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV 
   broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929.
   
   However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has 
 been 
   making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
  
 





[FairfieldLife] LisaNova does the debate

2008-10-04 Thread gullible fool


 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Yfeature=user
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: LisaNova does the debate

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thats a good one.


IMO, the woman playing Palin was exceptional. Even better than Tina
Fey -- who has been fantastic. With Tina, you know its Tina -- the
woman on Utube -- she almost morphs into and channels Palin (in a
satiric way). 



  
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Yfeature=user
  
 Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no
`you,' only love. 
  
 - Amma 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LisaNova does the debate

2008-10-04 Thread gullible fool

 
She has more Palin vidoes on her main page:
 
http://www.youtube.com/user/LisaNova


Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: LisaNova does the debate
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:51 PM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thats a good one.


IMO, the woman playing Palin was exceptional. Even better than Tina
Fey -- who has been fantastic. With Tina, you know its Tina -- the
woman on Utube -- she almost morphs into and channels Palin (in a
satiric way). 



  
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Yfeature=user
  
 Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no
`you,' only love. 
  
 - Amma 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960

2008-10-04 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Those people don't get it - the mock-up of that album cover was
originally created (not very famously any more i guess) as a joke. 
That's actually an aspiring twenty-three year old comedian named Allen
Konigsberg (aka Woody Allen) on the right.  The other two in the
picture were secretaries in the Brill Building where Allen's agent at
the time had his office.  As I'm sure Bill Maher would tell you, he's
not the originator of this kind of humor!
==


~Woody Allen's early humor enjoyed after all this time. I had the
biggest laughs I can remember reading the comments and not recognizing
the spoof.



 
 --- On Sat, 10/4/08, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:02 PM
 
 http://www.boingboi ng.net/200810011 126.jpg 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: I confess -- I graduated from U of Calif and there were radicals there. Ban Me!

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I assume you are satirizing the loony logic of some of our other
 astute posters here. 
 
 Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Does
 this imply that all graduate of U of I should be banned from being
 president because of the Ayers connections? 



...only the ones running for president.



 
 You went to an University whose name sake, president and chief
 scientists are nuts -- or at least say very nutty things.  And the
 goofiest thing -- you flew everyday at this so called university.
 Should people who deal with you on insurance matters be told the 
truth
 about you!





I would slink into the nearest hole if ever I was presented to my 
clients as such.

But, again, I'm not running for president (would YOU vote for someone 
that went to MIU?  I wouldn't!)

As Groucho said: I wouldn't belong to a club that would have me as a 
member.





 
 I went to the University of California. Angela Davis taught there.
 Herbert Marcuse taught there. both avowed Communists and radicals.



Did they commit acts of terrorism?

I don't think Marcuse did.

Davis is another story, although if memory serves me correctly, she 
was NOT convicted for the George Jackson thing, for which she was a 
fugitive (remember the Free Angela buttons?).






 Eldridge Cleaver, Tim Leary, Abbie Hoffman, Tom Hayden, Jerry Rubin
 all spoke there. Students spoke at rally's and advocated open
 revolution. It was the hotbed and leading wave of student and 
natioanl
 protests, People took drugs there. Martin Luther King spoke there 
and
 he advocated strong resistance against the government.



MLK never advocated terrorism and you do insult his name by putting 
him in the same paragraph as the likes of Hayden and Hoffman.

I leave out Rubin and Cleaver because they changed their thinking in 
later years.

Leary?  He was just a drug addled junkie.




 Heck, Ronald
 Reagan was governor of an head of the Board of Regents when I was
 there -- when no attacking we students from his helicopters filled
 with tear gas -- and apparently he caused the meltdown of the US
 economy. Bobby and Jack Kennedy spoke there -- and they palled 
around
 with mobsters,



...yes, and quite rightly have been admonished for it many times 
since it has come to light.





 and started the (serious part of) the war in Vietnam
 -- which became an immoral and political/economic disaster.





Yes, and history has dealt with them for that.

Gosh, new.morning, you're just giving reasons why people shouldn't 
vote for Obama.

Whose side are you on?





 Should I
 and all other graduates of UC be banned from being president because
 of the Davis/Marcuse/Revolutionaries/Drug/Reagan/mobster/Kennedy
 connection?




...if you supported terrorism and terrorists then, yes, you should be.

But I don't think any of the above were.

Hayden and Hoffman neither blew up or advocated blowing things up as 
far as I know and they're the worst of the bunch.




 
 (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to 
society's
 problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and
 were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban 
Peter
 from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of
 us for our connections to Peter?) 



...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for 
president.




 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  At least someone in this campaign has some balls.
  
  This to me is one of the main reasons this man cannot be 
  president...and the ties to William Ayers run deep.
  
  Talk about vetting.  Who the hell vetted Obama during the 
primaries 
  about this?
  
  What I'd like to know is: how many Americans are actually aware 
of 
  the William Ayers connection?  Is it a large or small percentage?
  And of those that know about it, how many will NOT vote for Obama 
  because of it?  If it's a large percentage, you can bet that a 
whole 
  lotta money will be spent informing the public of the connection.
  
  And please don't retort with: Oh, having a connection with 
William 
  Ayers is something that mainstream people in Chicago have been 
doing 
  for years; why Mayor Daley has worked with Ayers.
  
  Well, two wrongs don't make a right.  And, besides, Barky is 
supposed 
  to be different; he's supposed to be change we can believe 
it...a 
  leader who doesn't do things just because everyone else in the 
crowd 
  is doing it.
  
  If Barky is just going to be one more run-of-the-mill 
politicians, 
  why do we need him?  What we need is a REAL leader; someone who 
would 
  have had the courage and fortitude to say: I don't care how many 
of 
  my fellow Chicago politicians approve of and work with this self-
  admitted terrorist, I won't have anything to do with him.
  
  But, no, Barky is NOT a unique thinker, he is NOT someone who 
will go 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

2008-10-04 Thread bob_brigante
.
 
 There were more.
 
 

*

...as a test of clear thinking, the debate format was far less 
demanding than a face-to-face interview — the kind Ms. Palin had with 
Katie Couric of CBS.

Why? Because in a one-on-one conversation, you can't launch into a 
prepared speech on a topic unrelated to the question. Imagine this 
exchange — based on the first question that the moderator, Gwen 
Ifill, gave Ms. Palin and Senator Joe Biden — if it took place in 
casual conversation over coffee:

LISA How about that bailout? Was this Washington at its best or at 
its worst? 

MICHAEL You know, I think a good barometer here, as we try to figure 
out has this been a good time or a bad time in America's economy, is 
go to a kid's soccer game on Saturday, and turn to any parent there 
on the sideline and ask them, How are you feeling about the economy?


Lisa would flee. (This was, in fact, Ms. Palin's response.) In a 
conversation, you have to build your sentence phrase by phrase, 
monitoring the reaction of your listener, while aiming for relevance 
to the question. That's what led Ms. Palin into word salad with Ms. 
Couric. But when the questioner is 30 feet away on the floor and 
you're on a stage talking to a camera, which can't interrupt or make 
faces, you can reel off a script without embarrassment. The concerns 
raised by the Couric interviews — that Ms. Palin memorizes talking 
points rather than grasping issues — should not be allayed by her 
performance in the forgiving format of a debate. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/opinion/04pinker.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of
  getting their facts wrong in the debate.
 
 Those fact-checks comparing Biden to Palin in the debate, are more 
like
 comparing the gravitous weight of the Obama mistake that he had been
 married 16 years, not 15, compared to McCain's consitent lies about 
his
 own voting record, and stinging character assinations of Obama.
 
 They are of whole a different order of fact discrepancy
 
 OffWorld




Then you need to compare Obama's record/stance on issues BEFORE he 
secured the nomination with his record/stance AFTER he secured the 
nomination.

Obama's nose will be, oh, about 6 times longer than McCain's.

And, please note, I am NO fan of McCain's and I feel very 
uncomfortable painting him in a good light as a result of these 
comparisons with Barky.

They are both bums.

I think we can agree, off-kilter, that the bailout is a horrible 
thing.  Yet both McCain and Obama are for it.  The difference is that 
Obama was much more eager for this government intervention than 
McCain was.

As such, on this issue, Obama was MUCH MORE in line with Bush than 
McCain was.

So who's more representative of Bush's third term?





 
 
 
  Here's their full fact check on the debate:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/4fpela http://tinyurl.com/4fpela
 
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , new.morning no_reply@
  wrote:
  
   But whats Truth got to do with it?
  
   Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe.
  Speaking
   right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it 
blatently
   lying to the American people and world.
  
   With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy 
pulling in
   over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-
prized.
  
   And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so
  clear
   he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all.
  
   It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it 
but
   don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She 
can
  be
   (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what
  handlers
   have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that 
make it
   OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish 
a
   cooked-up lies from sanity and truth?
  
   (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as 
I
  held
   their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very 
endearing
  and
   cute. Except when she hit my shoes. )
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings
  no_reply@
wrote:
   
   
[snip]
   
 I was talking to a friend today about debates and I 
mentioned
  the
gaffe
 of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media
treatment
 of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.)

 My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New
  York in
 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV
 broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in 
the
  city
 where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would 
go on
radio
 and TV to make speeches about it.

 Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and 
Shemp
  is
 swallowing it hook line a sinker.

 Looks like Biden was right.

 OffWorld

   
   
Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what
  could
pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the
  most
limited sense of both words.  They were one-inch screens and 
the
whole enterprise was of an experimental nature.  And the
  broadcasts
were local, not state-wide.
   
There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any 
TV
broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 
1929.
   
However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts 
has
  been
making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 .
  
  There were more.
  
  
 
 *
 
 ...as a test of clear thinking, the debate format was far less 
 demanding than a face-to-face interview — the kind Ms. Palin had 
with 
 Katie Couric of CBS.
 
 Why? Because in a one-on-one conversation, you can't launch into a 
 prepared speech on a topic unrelated to the question.





Gosh, the KING of prepared only-speak-from-the-teleprompter speakers 
is Barack Obama and he has NEVER been exposed to the kind of Gotcha! 
journalism that Palin was exposed to by both Couric and Gibson.

Obama was interviewed by O'Reilly who did NOT play Gotcha! journalism 
with him...but in hindsight he should have.

Who else beside O'Reilly did Barack get interviewed with that can be 
said to be hostile to him?

Can you name them?  If so, did they give him the kind of What is the 
speed velocity of a hummingbird's wings questions that Palin got?

Anytime Obama is confronted with off-the-cuff questions he hems and 
haws and stumbles and mumbles TEN TIMES worse than anything Palin has 
done.

But everyone in the media treats him with kid gloves.

What a big, fat, fucking baby.  Wah-wah-wah.





 Imagine this 
 exchange — based on the first question that the moderator, Gwen 
 Ifill, gave Ms. Palin and Senator Joe Biden — if it took place in 
 casual conversation over coffee:
 
 LISA How about that bailout? Was this Washington at its best or at 
 its worst? 
 
 MICHAEL You know, I think a good barometer here, as we try to 
figure 
 out has this been a good time or a bad time in America's economy, 
is 
 go to a kid's soccer game on Saturday, and turn to any parent there 
 on the sideline and ask them, How are you feeling about the 
economy?
 
 
 Lisa would flee. (This was, in fact, Ms. Palin's response.) In a 
 conversation, you have to build your sentence phrase by phrase, 
 monitoring the reaction of your listener, while aiming for 
relevance 
 to the question. That's what led Ms. Palin into word salad with Ms. 
 Couric. But when the questioner is 30 feet away on the floor and 
 you're on a stage talking to a camera, which can't interrupt or 
make 
 faces, you can reel off a script without embarrassment. The 
concerns 
 raised by the Couric interviews — that Ms. Palin memorizes talking 
 points rather than grasping issues — should not be allayed by her 
 performance in the forgiving format of a debate. 
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/opinion/04pinker.html





[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

2008-10-04 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
   
   1) Total federal (public) debt
   2) Foreign holding of federal debt
   
   And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?
   
 
 
 
  The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too 
much 
  to bear for any country. 
 
 Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a
 country with a billion people?

Some economists like to play the numbers game by taking ratios for 
analyses.  For my taste, a debt is a debt no matter how you take it.  
The ideal situation is to have zero debt.

 
 
  There should be a goal to at least reduce 
  the debt by half in about 25 years.  
 
 Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy?
 
  Once that's reached, there 
  should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another 
  half.  By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant.
 
 So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no
 national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in
 cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, 
everything
 else being equal than one with some debt?

Ideally, yes.  But in the real world one has to borrow money to pay 
for big ticket items--those that are essential.


  
  Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely 
collapse.
  
 You get big Palin points for skirting the question:  
 What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
 1) Total federal (public) debt
 2) Foreign holding of federal debt

I proposed to cut the national debt in half at first to relieve the 
debt burden.  You can figure out the ratio to around 30 percent or 
so.  Once that goal is reached, the debt ratio can be reduced to 15 
percent.  The idea is to reduce the excessive debt that the US has 
now.  The ideal is zero debt.  

IMO, the US was able to function without any debt in its past 
economic history.


  
 Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and
 Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various
 debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be 
instructive
 to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an
 appropriate level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust
 economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no 
federal
 debt.
 
 Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if 
 building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this
 should be done in all upfront cash?

Personally, I would prefer NOT to have any debt.  If you don't have 
the money to buy a house, you can borrow the money.  But you should 
make sure that you can pay for the mortgage payments.  It's common 
sense.


 
 Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but
 might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or
 better than reducing debt, during a recession?

At the national level, the principles become more complicated.  The 
government has the responsibility to stimulate the economy.  This was 
done in the past by work projects, such as those made during the 
Great Depression Era.  As such, it was necessary to incur debt to 
stimulate the economy.

Currently, the situation is similar.  However, the indebtedness is 
made upfront, before the entire financial institutions collapse.  So, 
in short, I am in favor of the bailout plan that was passed by 
Congress.

Nonetheless, there should be an overall goal to reduce the national 
debt sometime in the near future.







 
 
 
  
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
To All:

It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates 
today 
  and 
the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA 
  national 
debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently 
  forget 
to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing 
cancer 
  that 
cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.

President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when 
his 
administration actually realized a budget surplus which 
helped 
  reduce 
the national debt--but not by much.

In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax 
cuts 
which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase 
to 
  the 
national debt.

Someone has to deliver the message to the American people 
that 
  the 
party is over.  We have to face this problem now in order to 
eliminate the problem within this generation or the next.

But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Palin Gush - Rich Lowry So lonely. So very lonely

2008-10-04 Thread do.rflex

Dear Penthouse . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phqYQS5NO0s



[FairfieldLife] Re: Beyond the observable universe...

2008-10-04 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hundreds of galaxy clusters are flowing toward the same spot in the 
sky
 beyond the observable universe, a University of Hawaii astronomer and
 NASA team members have discovered.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d


Richard Hugo pointed this out earlier this week.  Nonetheless, it is 
interesting to note what the Rig Veda has sung about the universe, as 
interpreted by an Indian author a few years ago.  Supposedly, the 
universe is expanding and is rotating at a certain axis.  So, as we see 
galaxies spin, so does the entire universe.

This principle could account for the anomalies that the astronomers 
have found. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   
What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 

1) Total federal (public) debt
2) Foreign holding of federal debt

And what % of federal debt per capita is OK?

  
  
  
   The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too 
 much 
   to bear for any country. 
  
  Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a
  country with a billion people?
 
 Some economists like to play the numbers game by taking ratios for 
 analyses. 

Holy shit. you are out palining Paling. My hats off to you.

yea I mean like all ratios in economics are games. meant to decieve
and not clarify, You  are SO right on. How did you figure out this
conspiracy against hard workin americans perpetrated by economists?
You are one smart brainiac!

 For my taste, 

 debt is a debt no matter how you take it.  

 The ideal situation is to have zero debt.

Welcome to the caveman economy. 

Can't wait to har your grand theories on savings and investments.



  
  
   There should be a goal to at least reduce 
   the debt by half in about 25 years.  
  
  Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy?
  
   Once that's reached, there 
   should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another 
   half.  By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant.
  
  So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no
  national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in
  cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, 
 everything
  else being equal than one with some debt?
 
 Ideally, yes.  But in the real world one has to borrow money to pay 
 for big ticket items--those that are essential.
 
 
   
   Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely 
 collapse.
   
  You get big Palin points for skirting the question:  
  What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 
  1) Total federal (public) debt
  2) Foreign holding of federal debt
 
 I proposed to cut the national debt in half at first to relieve the 
 debt burden.  You can figure out the ratio to around 30 percent or 
 so.  Once that goal is reached, the debt ratio can be reduced to 15 
 percent.  The idea is to reduce the excessive debt that the US has 
 now.  The ideal is zero debt.  
 
 IMO, the US was able to function without any debt in its past 
 economic history.
 
 
   
  Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and
  Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various
  debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be 
 instructive
  to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an
  appropriate level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust
  economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no 
 federal
  debt.
  
  Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if 
  building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this
  should be done in all upfront cash?
 
 Personally, I would prefer NOT to have any debt.  If you don't have 
 the money to buy a house, you can borrow the money.  But you should 
 make sure that you can pay for the mortgage payments.  It's common 
 sense.
 
 
  
  Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but
  might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or
  better than reducing debt, during a recession?
 
 At the national level, the principles become more complicated.  The 
 government has the responsibility to stimulate the economy.  This was 
 done in the past by work projects, such as those made during the 
 Great Depression Era.  As such, it was necessary to incur debt to 
 stimulate the economy.
 
 Currently, the situation is similar.  However, the indebtedness is 
 made upfront, before the entire financial institutions collapse.  So, 
 in short, I am in favor of the bailout plan that was passed by 
 Congress.
 
 Nonetheless, there should be an overall goal to reduce the national 
 debt sometime in the near future.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
   
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:

 To All:
 
 It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates 
 today 
   and 
 the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA 
   national 
 debt.  Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently 
   forget 
 to address this question.  Why?  Because it's a growing 
 cancer 
   that 
 cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes.
 
 President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when 
 his 
 administration actually realized a budget surplus which 
 helped 
   reduce 
 the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What are you-when your not having thoughts?'

2008-10-04 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pure energy and intelligence.
 (Hopefully)
  
 _say it ain't so...


The results of the tests at the Giant Collider in Switzerland should 
confirm this idea soon.

If we are pure energy and intelligence, then we are all interconnected 
to the entire cosmos at any given time.  

This could be one of the explanations why the vedic literature has 
mentioned of ancient rishis who were able to travel to other planets or 
worlds through their minds alone, without the benefit of space ships.



[FairfieldLife] Peter Fuckin Stuphen for President

2008-10-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
 
  
  (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to 
 society's
  problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and
  were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban 
 Peter
  from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of
  us for our connections to Peter?) 
 
 
 ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for 
 president.


I think that is a winning idea.  We have a grass routs org here on
FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign
for 2012. 

He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally down.

Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis --
still ongoing since 2008? 

A: More fucking.

Q More fucking what?

A: More fucking.

Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag
for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?

A: I never withdraw prematurely.

Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis: 

A: Seniors should fuck more.

Q: And the education crisis:

A: Students should fuck more.

Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?

A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global Fucking,
Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16
will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump up
the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. My
platform is the Politics of Pleasure.  And in Celebration of that
platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.

Q: How can the fucking money be spent?

A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all
escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking
money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these
nationalized fucking businesses.

Q: Is it a big fucking budget?

A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.

Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?

A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.

Q After you win the election what will you do?

A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.

 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Fuckin Stuphen for President

2008-10-04 Thread authfriend
Fucking hilarious, new.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
  
   
   (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to 
  society's
   problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with 
Peter and
   were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should 
ban 
  Peter
   from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban 
all of
   us for our connections to Peter?) 
  
  
  ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for 
  president.
 
 
 I think that is a winning idea.  We have a grass routs org here on
 FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign
 for 2012. 
 
 He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally 
down.
 
 Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis --
 still ongoing since 2008? 
 
 A: More fucking.
 
 Q More fucking what?
 
 A: More fucking.
 
 Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag
 for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?
 
 A: I never withdraw prematurely.
 
 Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis: 
 
 A: Seniors should fuck more.
 
 Q: And the education crisis:
 
 A: Students should fuck more.
 
 Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?
 
 A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global 
Fucking,
 Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16
 will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump 
up
 the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. 
My
 platform is the Politics of Pleasure.  And in Celebration of that
 platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.
 
 Q: How can the fucking money be spent?
 
 A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all
 escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking
 money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these
 nationalized fucking businesses.
 
 Q: Is it a big fucking budget?
 
 A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.
 
 Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?
 
 A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.
 
 Q After you win the election what will you do?
 
 A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.





[FairfieldLife] Peter's tour bus and lawn sign

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk








--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
  wrote:
  
 
  
   (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to
  society's
   problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter
and
   were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban
  Peter
   from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all
of
   us for our connections to Peter?)
 
 
  ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for
  president.


 I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on
 FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign
 for 2012.

 He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally
down.

 Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis --
 still ongoing since 2008?

 A: More fucking.

 Q More fucking what?

 A: More fucking.

 Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag
 for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?

 A: I never withdraw prematurely.

 Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis:

 A: Seniors should fuck more.

 Q: And the education crisis:

 A: Students should fuck more.

 Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?

 A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global Fucking,
 Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16
 will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump up
 the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. My
 platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that
 platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.

 Q: How can the fucking money be spent?

 A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all
 escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking
 money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these
 nationalized fucking businesses.

 Q: Is it a big fucking budget?

 A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.

 Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?

 A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.

 Q After you win the election what will you do?

 A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.





[FairfieldLife] Peter's campaign poster

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:









 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
   wrote:
   
  
   
(And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to
   society's
problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter
 and
were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban
   Peter
from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban
all
 of
us for our connections to Peter?)
  
  
   ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for
   president.
 
 
  I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on
  FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign
  for 2012.
 
  He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally
 down.
 
  Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis --
  still ongoing since 2008?
 
  A: More fucking.
 
  Q More fucking what?
 
  A: More fucking.
 
  Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag
  for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?
 
  A: I never withdraw prematurely.
 
  Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis:
 
  A: Seniors should fuck more.
 
  Q: And the education crisis:
 
  A: Students should fuck more.
 
  Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?
 
  A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global
Fucking,
  Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16
  will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump
up
  the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure.
My
  platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that
  platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.
 
  Q: How can the fucking money be spent?
 
  A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all
  escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking
  money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these
  nationalized fucking businesses.
 
  Q: Is it a big fucking budget?
 
  A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.
 
  Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?
 
  A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.
 
  Q After you win the election what will you do?
 
  A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
 




[FairfieldLife] Peter's campaign mail-out thanking supporters for contributions

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk




   http://www.16sparrows.com/shop/fuck-thanks.html







--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
wrote:

   

 (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to
society's
 problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with
Peter
  and
 were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should
ban
Peter
 from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban
 all
  of
 us for our connections to Peter?)
   
   
...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for
president.
  
  
   I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on
   FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the
campaign
   for 2012.
  
   He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally
  down.
  
   Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis --
   still ongoing since 2008?
  
   A: More fucking.
  
   Q More fucking what?
  
   A: More fucking.
  
   Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in
Irag
   for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?
  
   A: I never withdraw prematurely.
  
   Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis:
  
   A: Seniors should fuck more.
  
   Q: And the education crisis:
  
   A: Students should fuck more.
  
   Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?
  
   A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global
 Fucking,
   Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over
16
   will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously
pump
 up
   the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure.
 My
   platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that
   platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.
  
   Q: How can the fucking money be spent?
  
   A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing
all
   escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking
   money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these
   nationalized fucking businesses.
  
   Q: Is it a big fucking budget?
  
   A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.
  
   Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?
  
   A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.
  
   Q After you win the election what will you do?
  
   A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Peter's supporter's rally for him

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:





 http://www.16sparrows.com/shop/fuck-thanks.html







 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
 wrote:
 

 
  (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to
 society's
  problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with
 Peter
   and
  were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should
 ban
 Peter
  from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we
ban
  all
   of
  us for our connections to Peter?)


 ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter
for
 president.
   
   
I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here
on
FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the
 campaign
for 2012.
   
He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers
totally
   down.
   
Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis
--
still ongoing since 2008?
   
A: More fucking.
   
Q More fucking what?
   
A: More fucking.
   
Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in
 Irag
for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?
   
A: I never withdraw prematurely.
   
Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis:
   
A: Seniors should fuck more.
   
Q: And the education crisis:
   
A: Students should fuck more.
   
Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?
   
A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global
  Fucking,
Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman
over
 16
will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously
 pump
  up
the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an
pleasure.
  My
platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that
platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.
   
Q: How can the fucking money be spent?
   
A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing
 all
escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The
fucking
money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of
these
nationalized fucking businesses.
   
Q: Is it a big fucking budget?
   
A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.
   
Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?
   
A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things.
   
Q After you win the election what will you do?
   
A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
   
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Peter gets the support of the military

2008-10-04 Thread shempmcgurk

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  http://www.16sparrows.com/shop/fuck-thanks.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
   wrote:
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
no_reply@
  wrote:
  
 
  
   (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution
to
  society's
   problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with
  Peter
and
   were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we
should
  ban
  Peter
   from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we
 ban
   all
of
   us for our connections to Peter?)
 
 
  ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter
 for
  president.


 I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here
 on
 FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the
  campaign
 for 2012.

 He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers
 totally
down.

 Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic
crisis
 --
 still ongoing since 2008?

 A: More fucking.

 Q More fucking what?

 A: More fucking.

 Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in
  Irag
 for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw?

 A: I never withdraw prematurely.

 Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis:

 A: Seniors should fuck more.

 Q: And the education crisis:

 A: Students should fuck more.

 Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking?

 A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global
   Fucking,
 Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman
 over
  16
 will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously
  pump
   up
 the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an
 pleasure.
   My
 platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of
that
 platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies.

 Q: How can the fucking money be spent?

 A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are
nationalizing
  all
 escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The
 fucking
 money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of
 these
 nationalized fucking businesses.

 Q: Is it a big fucking budget?

 A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked.

 Q: Isn't that what you are advocating?

 A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different
things.

 Q After you win the election what will you do?

 A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.

   
  
 




[FairfieldLife] My Campaign

2008-10-04 Thread Peter
Dear Americans,
Apparently in my absence tonight, while I was off at a drive-in movie with my 
lovely wife, a spontaneous group of my devoted fans have formed an election 
committee. I am touched by this display of loyalty and affection and I do 
humbly accept this nomination to be the next president of the United States of 
America. God bless America and goodnight! And don't forget your chicken 
sandwich!


  


Re: [FairfieldLife] My Campaign

2008-10-04 Thread gullible fool


 
Can you count on the Cuban vote?
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] My Campaign
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 11:14 PM

Dear Americans,
Apparently in my absence tonight, while I was off at a drive-in movie with my
lovely wife, a spontaneous group of my devoted fans have formed an election
committee. I am touched by this display of loyalty and affection and I do humbly
accept this nomination to be the next president of the United States of America.
God bless America and goodnight! And don't forget your chicken sandwich!


  



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[FairfieldLife] McCain's Reputation Revealed...

2008-10-04 Thread sparaig
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print


'nuff said.

L.



[FairfieldLife] Bevan's Wacky World

2008-10-04 Thread sirenia108
I was wondering when the TMO's internal logic and bizarre MMY-centric
rationalizations would cough up a phlegmy furball like this:


Dear Everyone,
Dr Bevan Morris comments on the current economic situation in the US
in light of Maharishi's programmes
by Global Good News staff writer
 
Global Good News  
www.globalgoodnews.com
25 September 2008
 
Speaking on 24 September Maharishi Global Family Chat, Dr Bevan
Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace, described
his recent visit to Maharishi Vedic City, in Iowa, USA, and commented
on the current economic and political situations in the United States.
 
Dr Morris had visited Maharishi University of Management and Maharishi
Vedic City, where over 900 Vedic Pandits are currently part of the
Invincible America Assembly and also performing daily Yagyas for the
creation of Invincible America and world peace. Dr Morris said it is a
very difficult place to leave 'due to the saturated bliss, the feeling
of everything flowing in Totality there'.
 
Dr Morris also spoke about the remarkable transformation that has
taken place at 70 Broad Street in New York City, the new home of the
Global Financial Capital of New York, which has been completely
reconstructed internally and redesigned to be a place where the top
leaders in any field will be welcomed and feel completely comfortable.
 
So many people have given so much detailed attention and put in so
much hard work to bring the building to completion; Dr Morris praised
and appreciated all those individuals who have been involved.
 
Dr Morris then gave his perspective on the current financial situation
in the United States and how the Invincible America Assembly is
transforming the fortune and destiny of the United States; together
with the change in the financial markets and the government, and a
group of the most influential and wealthiest executives, who have
expressed interest in learning Transcendental Meditation—all of this
coming together at the same time Dr Morris felt was very significant.
 
Dr Morris reminded everyone that the great investment banks would not
previously invest in Maharishi Global Development projects because
they said the projects were too risky, but now they are collapsing due
to unwarranted risks that were taken. Dr Morris said that the current
financial system, which he felt is 'upside down', is now being
purified by the upsurge of coherence in the collective consciousness.
That which he felt was completely wrong, the huge contrast between the
great wealth and extreme poverty in the world—the upside down nature
of the economy and finances—is now being set right, although we cannot
foresee in what way this will unfold.
 
Dr Morris felt it must be that all these areas have to be purified if
we are to have a better world, and it was Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's
intention that these transformations would be gradual, not happening
so quickly that it would be destructive. Maharishi had said previously
that it was not the money from the banks that will relieve the poverty
in the world. It is the infinite potential of consciousness that has
to be enlivened and that will relieve the poverty on every level.
 
Dr Morris spoke about Maharishi's Poverty Removal Programme, the great
economic development programme with the Global Development Currency,
the Raam; through this programme, any government will be able to
rebuild and develop the schools, the housing, the roads, the cities,
and also clinics for Maharishi Ayur-Veda—all built according to Vedic
principles of architecture, Maharishi Sthapatya Veda.
 
Agriculture can also be transformed and developed through Maharishi
Vedic Organic Agriculture, in which the unused lands of the poorer
countries of the world are used to provide income and wealth through
sales of organic produce to other countries.
 
In every area of life transformation is needed—in health, agriculture,
education, etc—and now Maharishi's programmes are bringing all these
areas of life to be founded on the reality of life, the unbounded
level of consciousness, the Unified Field of Natural Law, 'completely
full of bliss and intelligence—and that is the true wealth of
everybody', Dr Morris said.
 
© Copyright 2008 Global Good News®
 



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