[FairfieldLife] Funny cut-n-paste of Palin interview
http://64.27.15.184/parchive/xml/pocho.xml click on the pocho hour of power link for October 3rd -- three minute Palin interview starts about 13:40 (pocho means a Mexican-American who speaks crummy Spanish and doesn't know much about his heritage - A Gringoized Mexican)
[FairfieldLife] 'What are you-when your not having thoughts?'
Pure energy and intelligence. (Hopefully) _say it ain't so...
[FairfieldLife] 'Are You Experienced or Why We Didn't LIke Carter?'
Why we didn't like Jimi Carter? Well, Carter was shy about pomp and circumstance. He was intelligent, as well, ( little, too smart). Plus the fact, he was trying to decriminalize pot, And even had Willie Nelson, to the WH, to sing the star spangled, yu betcha! Can you imagine!? Was Carter a hunter, No! He liked to go fishing, it's so true(Boring!) Then, there was them there hostage situation... Oh boy, what a fiasco that was: 444 days at the Mercy of the Mullahs. Then the rescue mission failed, or got sabatoged? Who really knows, these days? A few good men, died. Then came Ronnie, our Savior. He did like pomp and circumstance, bunches and bunces, couldn't get enough! And wouldn't ya know it, as soon as he took the oath, The hostages were released! That Ronnie! Always had good timing, he did. And wouldn't ya know it, he traded arms for weapons or drugs, Or something like that, to Iran, I forget. And even bin Laden had connections to him. Boy that Ronnie, what a hero he was! Even brought down the Soviet Empire, then say. He coined the phrase just say no... And he said no to lots of stuff: No regulations, no welfare, no hippies, no universal medicine. As a matter of fact, he used to like to say, government is bad. Strange, then why are you running for government, then? Anyway, he was mostly senile, but could read his lines, real well, they say, Even in his sleep! You betcha! Robert Gimbel Madison, Wisconsin
[FairfieldLife] 'Warrior or Priest, which is it?
Do we wish to be ruled by a warrior or a priest? What do the Vedas say about this? Do we want to be ruled by Caesar or Yeshua? Which do you prefer. Do you like guns or butter? Which comes first the chicken or the egg? It's getting late. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] 'Hey O.J./It's called kkkarma, dude!'
By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent 44 minutes ago LAS VEGAS - O.J. Simpson, who went from American sports idol to celebrity-in-exile after he was acquitted of murder in 1995, was found guilty Friday of robbing two sports-memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in a Las Vegas hotel room. if(window.yzq_d==null)window.yzq_d=new Object(); window.yzq_d['jSUeAEwNBlo-']='U=13fbqc3kp%2fN%3djSUeAEwNBlo-%2fC%3d632876.11908692.12484106.1442997%2fD%3dLREC%2fB%3d5113893%2fV%3d1'; The 61-year-old former football star could spend the rest of his life in prison. Sentencing was set for Dec. 5. A weary and somber Simpson released a heavy sigh as the charges were read by the clerk in Clark County District Court. He was immediately taken into custody. The Hall of Fame football star was convicted of kidnapping, armed robbery and 10 other charges for gathering up five men a year ago and storming into a room at a hotel-casino, where the group seized several game balls, plaques and photos. Prosecutors said two of the men with him were armed; one of them said Simpson asked him to bring a gun. The verdict came 13 years to the day after Simpson was cleared of murdering his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ronald Goldman, in Los Angeles in one of the most sensational trials of the 20th century. I don't like to use the word payback, defense attorney Yale Galanter said. I can tell you from the beginning my biggest concern ... was whether or not the jury would be able to separate their very strong feelings about Mr. Simpson and judge him fairly and honestly. Simpson's co-defendant, Clarence C.J. Stewart, 54, also was found guilty on all charges in the Las Vegas case and taken into custody. Simpson showed little emotion as officers handcuffed him and walked him out of the courtroom. His sister, Carmelita Durio, sobbed behind him in the arms of Simpson's friend, Tom Scotto, who said I love you as Simpson passed by. As spectators left the courtroom, Durio collapsed. Jurors made no eye contact with the defendants as they entered the courtroom. They declined to answer questions after the verdict was read. Galanter said his client had expected the outcome, and in a courthouse conversation with an Associated Press reporter on Thursday, Simpson had implied as much. Simpson said he felt melancholy and that he was afraid that I won't get to go to my kids' college graduations after I managed to get them through college. Galanter said it was not a happy day for anybody. His only hope is the appellate process, he said. Clark County spokesman Dan Kulin said prosecutors would not comment until the case was completely resolved. Judge Jackie Glass made no comment other than to thank the jury for its service and to deny motions for the defendants to be released on bail. She refused to give the lawyers extended time to file a motion for new trial, which under Nevada law must be filed within seven days. The attorneys said they needed time to submit a voluminous record. I've sat through the trial, Glass said. If you want a motion for new trial, send me something. Stewart's attorney, Brent Bryson, promised to appeal. If there was ever a case that should have been severed in the history of jurisprudence, it's this case, he said of unsuccessful attempts to separate Stewart's case from Simpson's because of the spillover effect. From the beginning, Simpson and his lawyers argued the incident was not a robbery, but an attempt to reclaim mementos that had been stolen from him. He said he did not ask anyone to bring a weapon and did not see any guns. The defense portrayed Simpson as a victim of shady characters who wanted to make a buck off his famous name, and police officers who saw his arrest as an opportunity to get him and avenge his acquittal. Prosecutors said Simpson's ownership of the memorabilia was irrelevant; it was still a crime to try to take things by force. When they went into that room and forced the victims to the far side of the room, pulling out guns and yelling, `Don't let anybody out of here!' — six very large people detaining these two victims in the room with the intent to take property through force or violence from them — that's kidnapping, prosecutor David Roger said. Kidnapping is punishable by five years to life in prison. Armed robbery carries a mandatory sentence of at least two years behind bars, and could bring as much as 30. Simpson, who now lives in Miami, did not testify but was heard on a recording of the confrontation screaming that the dealers had stolen his property. Don't let nobody out of this room, he declared and told the other men to scoop up his items, which included a photo of Simpson with former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover. Four other men charged in the case struck plea bargains that saved them from potential prison sentences in return for their testimony. Some of them had criminal records or were otherwise compromised in some way. One, for
[FairfieldLife] 'Palin's Mentor= Dick Cheney'
Dick Cheney, Role Model Published: October 3, 2008 NYT In all the talk about the vice-presidential debate, there was an issue that did not get much attention but kept nagging at us: Sarah Palin’s description of the role and the responsibilities of the office for which she is running, vice president of the United States. In Thursday night’s debate, Ms. Palin was asked about the vice president’s role in government. She said she agreed with Dick Cheney that “we have a lot of flexibility in there” under the Constitution. And she declared that she was “thankful that the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president also, if that vice president so chose to exert it.” It is hard to tell from Ms. Palin’s remarks whether she understands how profoundly Dick Cheney has reshaped the vice presidency — as part of a larger drive to free the executive branch from all checks and balances. Nor did she seem to understand how much damage that has done to American democracy. Mr. Cheney has shown what can happen when a vice president — a position that is easy to lampoon and overlook — is given free rein by the president and does not care about trampling on the Constitution. Mr. Cheney has long taken the bizarre view that the lesson of Watergate was that Congress was too powerful and the president not powerful enough. He dedicated himself to expanding President Bush’s authority and arrogating to himself executive, legislative and legal powers that are nowhere in the Constitution. This isn’t the first time that Ms. Palin was confronted with the issue. In an interview with Katie Couric of CBS News, the Alaska governor was asked what she thought was the best and worst about the Cheney vice presidency. Ms. Palin tried to dodge: laughing and joking about the hunting accident in which Mr. Cheney accidentally shot a friend. The only thing she had to add was that Mr. Cheney showed support for the troops in Iraq. There was not a word about Mr. Cheney’s role in starting the war with Iraq, in misleading Americans about weapons of mass destruction, in leading the charge to create illegal prison camps where detainees are tortured, in illegally wiretapping Americans, in creating an energy policy that favored the oil industry that made him very rich before the administration began. Ms. Couric asked Joseph Biden, Ms. Palin’s rival, the same question in a separate interview. He had it exactly right when he told her that Mr. Cheney’s theory of the “unitary executive” held that “Congress and the people have no power in a time of war.” And he had it right in the debate when he called Mr. Cheney “the most dangerous vice president we’ve had in American history.” The Constitution does not state or imply any flexibility in the office of vice president. It gives the vice president no legislative responsibilities other than casting a tie-breaking vote in the Senate when needed and no executive powers at all. The vice president’s constitutional role is to be ready to serve if the president dies or becomes incapacitated. Any president deserves a vice president who will be a sound adviser and trustworthy supporter. But the American people also deserve and need a vice president who understands and respects the balance of power — and the limits of his or her own power. That is fundamental to our democracy. So far, Ms. Palin has it exactly, frighteningly wrong.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Market crash due to lack of sunspots
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/science/space/03sun.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/science/space/03sun.html Yes - our sun is very quiet at present and no one knows for sure what it all adds up to. But how ironic it would turn out to be if, whilst our lords and masters have all the while been preparing us for global warming, global COOLING should sneak up from behind and stab us all in the back! But then for TBs all bases are covered by the catch-all climate change eh? (read: pay more taxes, invest in nuclear energy etc). I find http://wattsupwiththat.com/ very interesting on this subject. eg: Ireland has 30 year cold event, plus coldest September in 14 years http://tiny.cc/YACVt NASA: Sun is 'blankety blankest' it's been in the Space Age http://tiny.cc/vhePV Polar Defense Project Deletes The Tough Questions http://tiny.cc/lqnQt RSS Feed: http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/feed/
[FairfieldLife] 'New Orleans- Worse than we thought...'
ELECTION 2008 Green candidate claims government killed 5,000 McKinney : 'Data was entered into a Pentagon computer' http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=76841 2nd October, 2008m © 2008 WorldNetDaily Rep. Cynthia McKinney, D-Ga. The former Democratic congresswoman from Georgia who now is the Green Party's candidate for president has claimed the government killed 5,000 prison inmates during Hurricane Katrina, dumping their bodies in a Louisiana swamp, according to a Fox News report. Cynthia McKinney told a news conference in Oakland. , Calif. , Sunday she heard the story from the mother of a National Guard soldier, and she checked it with "insiders" who want to remain anonymous. "And these were mostly males and her son was afraid to talk because he had signed a silence agreement," McKinney said, according to Fox News. "So he only complained to his mother. But the data was entered into a Pentagon computer." She alleged the government authorized the executions to be done with a bullet to the head. "I suspect that these are prisoners. ... So this investigation of the whole prison industrial complex is extremely important and it should not end with just a question of the nature of prisons in our country. These 5,000 souls also need some justice too," Fox reported she said. Lt. Col. Les Melnyk, a spokesman for the Defense Department, called it "outrageous." "The claim ... doesn't merit any further consideration," he told Fox. "It would be inconceivable that 5,000 people would go missing in America without anyone noticing it prior to this." Here is her comment: this is a video on the URL http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=76841 Psychologists and psychology professors contacted by Fox News expressed shock at the assertion. "Wow! What a conspiracy theory," one professor exclaimed. Commenting on the Fox News website forum were largely of one opinion: "I am surprised she didn't claim it was 5,000 black men and a racist plot by Bush! Liberals eliminated all mental hospitals; now I know why! They would fill them all up!" "I have never heard of her, this lady is a FRUIT LOOP." "Life must be really scary on her planet." "Obviously not the brightest crayola in the box. ... Cynthia...stick a fork in yourself dearyour DONE!" Fox said McKinney 's presidential campaign did not respond to a request for comment. She was in Congress for 12 years until 2007. She has, in the past, suggested President Bush knew in advance about the Sept. 11, 2001 , terrorist attacks but didn't warn Americans because of his father's business interests. In 2006, McKinney was accused of slugging a Capitol police officer when she went through a security checkpoint without a congressional lapel pin for identification.
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Warrior or Priest, which is it?
Guns, babybig fat blasting guns. --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Warrior or Priest, which is it? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 4:47 AM Do we wish to be ruled by a warrior or a priest? What do the Vedas say about this? Do we want to be ruled by Caesar or Yeshua? Which do you prefer. Do you like guns or butter? Which comes first the chicken or the egg? It's getting late. R.G. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War
John wrote: At this time, the Americans would be looking for the most qualified executives who can steer the country in the right direction for the next four years at least. Sarah Palin has more executive experience than John McCain, Barak Obama, or Joe Biden. The ideal choice might have been Mitt Romney, since he has the most executive experience.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War
Robert wrote: Well, that only happened because he was in San Fransisco... When he was speaking with a group and gays and lezzy's. Maybe you should stop with the pandering, Robert, I already told you I'm not gay. The rest of your sexist nonsense doesn't even deserve a reply. Maybe you should go back and read some of the messages that talk about elitism. (Snip) xxx willytex@ wrote: Obama almost lost the primaries when Hillary Clinton discovered his elitism and turned herself into a beer-chugging Rosie the Riveter... (snip) Well, that only happened because he was in San Fransisco... When he was speaking with a group and gays and lezzy's. So... It really doesn't count. Anyhow's, how 'bout this: Rosie the Riveter is as gay as the day is long. Her husband, Bill, is pretty straight though, from what I hear. Who knows, really? Who is really, Elite, and who is not. Spiritually, speaking, Jesus(Yweshuwa)would be elite. Materially, speaking, Donald Trump(Trump) would be elite. Somewhere in between, is where I live! But, then again, I thought striving to become elite was the 'American Way' Aren't we all striving to become rich and famous, and hang with the 'Big Boy's and Girl's? Could be why: Johnny(Big Dong)McCain, P(r)icked Sarah, and why Sarah is striving so hard to win. Do think she's doing it(It), to be patriotic, Or, Do you think she just might be doing IT, Because she(Ms.LIPSTICk) is quite, NEUROTIc? R.G.
[FairfieldLife] 'Was LBJ a Sixties Radical, too?'
Ho Ho Ho Chi Min Was Lyndon Baines Johnson a '60's radical, too? Well, Define radical= Irrational and Violent. Was LBJ irrational and violent? Well, after he was told by Robert McNamara, His Secretary of Defense(Offense?)... That he was told by Robert McNamara, That the Viet Nam war was Unwin-able, Short of a Nuke... Lyndon would not give it up. B-52's continued to carpet bomb, for many years. Napalm continued to burn human flesh, For many years. LBJ kept on fighting it, Because he did not want to be the first president, To lose a war. So, I believe that would make him a sixties radical, Which helped create all the other sixties radicals. Check out the Wall in D.C. It's a very sad and tearful place, Evem to this very day. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] SEX
Below is one of my Links, it is a little to long to post, so I will just give you the link if you don't mind - the message will have music, and a photo, and it will be easier to read. Thanks, John - in Cleveland Ohio ... http://clevelandohiousa.tripod.com/sex/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Depression or socialism?
So is there a caste lower than untouchable? Curtis wrote: Yes, Untouchables are still in the caste system. The shit-for-brains status for Westerners with no shakka lineage is called outcaste, not even IN the caste system. Obviously you're in the elite, Curtis. Like you'd be knowing anything about the Hindu social systems. Apparently the 'caste' system was first brought to India from the West during the 'Aryan' invasions.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War
(snip) Dear Tex, I'm sorry for thinking you were gay, But, I wasn't really thinking you were gay. But, I'm sorry you took it the wrong way. I know I haven't been too politically correct, In my observations of the Gay and Lesbian culture... And I apologize for that. God Bless all the Gay and Lesbian people in this world, And the next. Amen.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War
(snip) the next four years at least. Sarah Palin has more executive experience than John McCain, Barak Obama, or Joe Biden. The ideal choice might have been Mitt Romney, since he has the most executive experience. (snip) If we're just seeking executive experience, Why not elect Bevan Morris as president? Oh, I forgot, he was borned in Australia... What about Arnold Schwartzennager... Oh, I forgot, he was borned in Austria... I pick the priest. I will be voting for the eventual winner: Barack Obama. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins
I've been expecting this: Say It Ain't So, Sarah: Palin Smears Obama With Year-Old Discredited Attack: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/say-it-aint-so-sarah-pali_n_131841.html or http://tinyurl.com/4f436p In this clip, Sarah Palin is doing the inevitable -- having an anti-handler attack. It was inevitable because, just like McCain, she really is a maverick at heart (that is, someone who does not think before he or she acts, and believes that this is a higher order of action than thinking things through), and has resented the 8-10 hours a day of remedial education that have been forced on her to prep her for the debate. Now that's done, and she didn't embarrass herself too badly, and so she's thinking, I'll show them. I'll show those conde- scending bastards that I know a thing or two too. I'll come up with my *own* talking points. That's pretty much got to be the case, right? No handler in the Republican Party would have let her trot out an old crapola smear like this. She pretty much had to have discovered it on her own, probably cruising some anti- Obama website. Remember how she bragged about doing her research on Obama before the debate itself? This was one of the zingers she thought she'd found, and was saving for the appropriate moment to unleash. And, just like John McCain, who got so pissed off at being handled -- and needing it -- she decided to go with her gut and take the same kind of flying fuck at a rolling donut that McCain took when he chose her as VP nominee. In other meltdown moments, she's backpedaling on most of what she said to Katie Couric, while lashing out at her. It's the same revenge pattern we saw when she took office as mayor, and then again as governor. The moment she feels that the pressure is off, she goes into revenge mode and starts lashing out at her perceived enemies, going with her gut in an attempt to 1) get them and 2) prove that she doesn't need handling. Unfortunately, she does. Watch for more of these meltdown moments in the next 2 weeks. The handlers relaxed their hold on her for a few days, and now they realize what happens when they do. So they'll clamp back down on her again, and she'll resent that even more, and keep going with her gut. And that's going to be really entertaining...
[FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab News Publishes...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Middle East's Leading English Language Daily Saturday 4 October 2008 (04 Shawwal 1429) An Overlooked, Proven Solution to Terrorism David R. Leffler Looks as if the ME has finally found a home, somewhere readers will take it seriously and understand that it's hard science...just as real and as supported by science as, say, the evil eye. From the same issue of UK-based ArabNews.com: Effects of evil eye exaggerated, says psychiatrist Laura Bashraheel JEDDAH: The evil eye is something that people in the Kingdom like those of other cultures and religions generally believe in. However, many people exaggerate its effects and often develop a psyche to continuously attribute their unhappiness and illnesses to the concept. The evil eye, which is known in Arabic as Ain, comes into effect when someone is jealous of another person. As a result, the person affected will feel an adverse effect, such as some sort of material harm. The Prophet (peace be upon him) indicated that the influence of the evil eye is a fact. Saying Masha Allah (as God wills) when someone sees something appealing is a way of protecting others from the evil eye. It is customary to say Masha Allah, or invoke God's blessings on the object or person that is being admired. Reciting certain verses from the Qur'an is used to protect one's self from the evil eye. In certain cultures, people burn incense sticks, hang the evil eye symbol in their homes, burn garlic peels and carry out wiping rituals. However, Islam considers such actions baseless. Prayers and a clean forgiving heart are what Islam preaches. The Islamic faith teaches believers to look toward those who are above them when considering righteousness and piety, and look toward those below them when considering their material physical wellbeing. However, some people go to the extreme by believing that the evil eye is behind every difficulty that comes to them. Some wealthy people refrain from spending because they are afraid the evil eye might adversely affect them. One mother of three, who asked her name not be published, is convinced that the evil eye will harm her family if they spend too much money or show off their opulence. Her son, who used to own a Porsche while studying in Canada, believed that the evil eye caused him to crash his car. When he first brought the car to Canada from Jeddah, his mother put black seeds into it to protect it. (Black seeds are said to be useful for healing and curing especially if blessed with verses from the Qur'an.) The woman's son attributed the crash to the removal of the black seeds when he got the car cleaned. Maha Ibrahim, a 28-year-old university graduate, said that she and her friends once befriended a woman. My friends and I started to hang out with this woman. The first time she joined us was at my friend's house. When she first walked into the house, she noticed my friend's new eyeglasses and commented on how nice they were. After a while, she accidentally broke them by sitting on them, said Ibrahim. Ibrahim said the woman came to visit her after she gave birth to her first child. The woman commented on how she was breast-feeding her baby. Sometime later, her breasts became affected with a strange type of eczema. On another occasion we were all at my friend's house and the woman commented how beautiful the house and carpets were. At that time a charcoal from a hubble-bubble fell onto the carpet. The resulting burn looked like an eye, she said. This was when we decided not to contact her again. Dr. Saad Al-Khateeb, a senior consultant psychiatrist at the Jeddah Psychiatric Hospital, said that although Islam recognizes the effects of evil eye as a fact, some people overly attribute all sickness to the concept. As a psychiatrist and a Muslim I do believe in the evil eye but some people go to extremes, said Al-Khateeb. If someone is affected with the evil eye and then falls in the street and breaks his leg, should he go to a doctor or a religious man? The result of the evil eye needs to be cured medically, he added. Al-Khateeb said psychologists do not study the evil eye. If someone was affected with it then he or she should see a specialist, for example a religious man who cures using the Qur'an and not a magician who uses black magic. As psychiatrists we try to cure the illness ... we try to convince the patient that he or she needs help, he added. Al-Khateeb pointed out that some people attribute certain chronic psychological illnesses whose causes are unclear to the evil eye. I also believe that the media plays a role in making people believe that evil eye is behind everything, such as a soap about black magic and the evil eye aired on MBC in Ramadan. If someone is a believer he or she would never be affected, he added.
[FairfieldLife] Re: We're Screwed Now: The Pelosi, Reid, Bush bailout passes
Bhairitu wrote: There *will* be blow back. All of this raises the question: are they trying to make things worse in the hopes of furthering their party's election prospects? Similar suspicions were raised when Nancy Pelosi seemed to inflame her partisan opponents and resist any effort to whip her own caucus on the first failed bailout bill vote. Certainly as the financial crisis has intensified their electoral prospects have brightened. Read more: 'What's The Matter With Harry?' By Jennifer Rubin http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/
[FairfieldLife] Geek Meditation -- the new Checking procedure
Just as Maharishi adapted meditation to the language of the times, so will the next generation of meditation teachers: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2248/2053458310_6a30f248b1_o.jpg There should be one more talk balloon at the end that says, It was user friendly? :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War
Sarah Palin has more executive experience than John McCain, Barak Obama, or Joe Biden. The ideal choice might have been Mitt Romney, since he has the most executive experience. Living in Massachusetts, I thought Romney would be the best of all the Republicans by far. The US will be better of with Obama, though, both because he's a few notches higher on the evolutionary scale than all the others and because the US is accustomed to swinging back and forth from one party to another and now it is the other party's turn. I vote the person, not the party. If it had been Romney versus Hillary, I would have voted Republican again, which I have not done since before Hagelin ran. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Culture War To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:36 AM John wrote: At this time, the Americans would be looking for the most qualified executives who can steer the country in the right direction for the next four years at least. Sarah Palin has more executive experience than John McCain, Barak Obama, or Joe Biden. The ideal choice might have been Mitt Romney, since he has the most executive experience. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Depression or socialism?
--- On Sat, 10/4/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Depression or socialism? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:45 AM So is there a caste lower than untouchable? Curtis wrote: Yes, Untouchables are still in the caste system. The shit-for-brains status for Westerners with no shakka lineage is called outcaste, not even IN the caste system. Obviously you're in the elite, Curtis. Like you'd be knowing anything about the Hindu social systems. Apparently the 'caste' system was first brought to India from the West during the 'Aryan' invasions. Williams is that an old Gujurati name? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been expecting this: Say It Ain't So, Sarah: Palin Smears Obama With Year-Old Discredited Attack: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/say-it-aint-so-sarah- pali_n_131841.html or http://tinyurl.com/4f436p snip Now that's done, and she didn't embarrass herself too badly, and so she's thinking, I'll show them. I'll show those conde- scending bastards that I know a thing or two too. I'll come up with my *own* talking points. That's pretty much got to be the case, right? No handler in the Republican Party would have let her trot out an old crapola smear like this. She pretty much had to have discovered it on her own, probably cruising some anti- Obama website. Remember how she bragged about doing her research on Obama before the debate itself? This was one of the zingers she thought she'd found, and was saving for the appropriate moment to unleash. Heh. Try actually reading the article you cited: One year after Obama's initial remark, the McCain campaign marked the anniversary by randomly raising it in the form of a biting press release. That charge didn't create many waves. (The Huffington Post wrote an article examining that attack as well.) But the McCain campaign kept at it... This happened only about six weeks ago. The smear was undoubtedly given to her by one of her handlers to use as she saw fit. What on earth makes you think the McCain campaign cares if it's been debunked??
[FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards
http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards
On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm Looks like Norman Rockwell on Prozac. Why all the pictures of the gazebo? What's so special about the gazebo? Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: This happened only about six weeks ago. The smear was undoubtedly given to her by one of her handlers to use as she saw fit. What on earth makes you think the McCain campaign cares if it's been debunked?? It screws up his off-the-cuff, ad hoc, inner-world, unsubstantiated, unresearched theory?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm Looks like Norman Rockwell on Prozac. Why all the pictures of the gazebo? What's so special about the gazebo? Sal It creates woo woo energy like the pyramids and SV homes. duh.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards
Very, very nice photos, although at least one of them seems out of place as a Christmas card: http://beingandseeing.com/miscellaneous/source/p1010235-edit.htm Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 12:15 PM On Oct 4, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Rick Archer wrote: http://beingandseeing.com/cards/index.htm Looks like Norman Rockwell on Prozac. Why all the pictures of the gazebo? What's so special about the gazebo? Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins
TurquoiseB wrote: I've been expecting this: Say It Ain't So, Sarah: Palin Smears Obama With Year-Old Discredited Attack: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/say-it-aint-so-sarah-pali_n_131841.html or http://tinyurl.com/4f436p In this clip, Sarah Palin is doing the inevitable -- having an anti-handler attack. It was inevitable because, just like McCain, she really is a maverick at heart (that is, someone who does not think before he or she acts, and believes that this is a higher order of action than thinking things through), and has resented the 8-10 hours a day of remedial education that have been forced on her to prep her for the debate. Now that's done, and she didn't embarrass herself too badly, and so she's thinking, I'll show them. I'll show those conde- scending bastards that I know a thing or two too. I'll come up with my *own* talking points. That's pretty much got to be the case, right? No handler in the Republican Party would have let her trot out an old crapola smear like this. She pretty much had to have discovered it on her own, probably cruising some anti- Obama website. Remember how she bragged about doing her research on Obama before the debate itself? This was one of the zingers she thought she'd found, and was saving for the appropriate moment to unleash. And, just like John McCain, who got so pissed off at being handled -- and needing it -- she decided to go with her gut and take the same kind of flying fuck at a rolling donut that McCain took when he chose her as VP nominee. In other meltdown moments, she's backpedaling on most of what she said to Katie Couric, while lashing out at her. It's the same revenge pattern we saw when she took office as mayor, and then again as governor. The moment she feels that the pressure is off, she goes into revenge mode and starts lashing out at her perceived enemies, going with her gut in an attempt to 1) get them and 2) prove that she doesn't need handling. Unfortunately, she does. Watch for more of these meltdown moments in the next 2 weeks. The handlers relaxed their hold on her for a few days, and now they realize what happens when they do. So they'll clamp back down on her again, and she'll resent that even more, and keep going with her gut. And that's going to be really entertaining... MovieStorm a free program I use to make 3D animations has released an Election 2008 addon pack (not free though inexpensive) complete with Palin, McCain, Obama, Bush and they will be adding Biden. I'm going to have some fun with this particularly taking some Frances McDormand lines from Fargo for Palin to say (completely non-sequitur of course). http://www.moviestorm.co.uk/
[FairfieldLife] The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question
To All: It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today and the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA national debt. Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently forget to address this question. Why? Because it's a growing cancer that cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes. President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped reduce the national debt--but not by much. In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to the national debt. Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that the party is over. We have to face this problem now in order to eliminate the problem within this generation or the next. But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab News Publishes...)
Ha Ha! Classic! --- On Sat, 10/4/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab News Publishes...) To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 10:44 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Middle East's Leading English Language Daily Saturday 4 October 2008 (04 Shawwal 1429) An Overlooked, Proven Solution to Terrorism David R. Leffler Looks as if the ME has finally found a home, somewhere readers will take it seriously and understand that it's hard science...just as real and as supported by science as, say, the evil eye. From the same issue of UK-based ArabNews.com: Effects of evil eye exaggerated, says psychiatrist Laura Bashraheel JEDDAH: The evil eye is something that people in the Kingdom — like those of other cultures and religions — generally believe in. However, many people exaggerate its effects and often develop a psyche to continuously attribute their unhappiness and illnesses to the concept. The evil eye, which is known in Arabic as Ain, comes into effect when someone is jealous of another person. As a result, the person affected will feel an adverse effect, such as some sort of material harm. The Prophet (peace be upon him) indicated that the influence of the evil eye is a fact. Saying Masha Allah (as God wills) when someone sees something appealing is a way of protecting others from the evil eye. It is customary to say Masha Allah, or invoke God's blessings on the object or person that is being admired. Reciting certain verses from the Qur'an is used to protect one's self from the evil eye. In certain cultures, people burn incense sticks, hang the evil eye symbol in their homes, burn garlic peels and carry out wiping rituals. However, Islam considers such actions baseless. Prayers and a clean forgiving heart are what Islam preaches. The Islamic faith teaches believers to look toward those who are above them when considering righteousness and piety, and look toward those below them when considering their material physical wellbeing. However, some people go to the extreme by believing that the evil eye is behind every difficulty that comes to them. Some wealthy people refrain from spending because they are afraid the evil eye might adversely affect them. One mother of three, who asked her name not be published, is convinced that the evil eye will harm her family if they spend too much money or show off their opulence. Her son, who used to own a Porsche while studying in Canada, believed that the evil eye caused him to crash his car. When he first brought the car to Canada from Jeddah, his mother put black seeds into it to protect it. (Black seeds are said to be useful for healing and curing especially if blessed with verses from the Qur'an.) The woman's son attributed the crash to the removal of the black seeds when he got the car cleaned. Maha Ibrahim, a 28-year-old university graduate, said that she and her friends once befriended a woman. My friends and I started to hang out with this woman. The first time she joined us was at my friend's house. When she first walked into the house, she noticed my friend's new eyeglasses and commented on how nice they were. After a while, she accidentally broke them by sitting on them, said Ibrahim. Ibrahim said the woman came to visit her after she gave birth to her first child. The woman commented on how she was breast-feeding her baby. Sometime later, her breasts became affected with a strange type of eczema. On another occasion we were all at my friend's house and the woman commented how beautiful the house and carpets were. At that time a charcoal from a hubble-bubble fell onto the carpet. The resulting burn looked like an eye, she said. This was when we decided not to contact her again. Dr. Saad Al-Khateeb, a senior consultant psychiatrist at the Jeddah Psychiatric Hospital, said that although Islam recognizes the effects of evil eye as a fact, some people overly attribute all sickness to the concept. As a psychiatrist and a Muslim I do believe in the evil eye but some people go to extremes, said Al-Khateeb. If someone is affected with the evil eye and then falls in the street and breaks his leg, should he go to a doctor or a religious man? The result of the evil eye needs to be cured medically, he added. Al-Khateeb said psychologists do not study the evil eye. If someone was affected with it then he or she should see a specialist, for example a religious man who cures using the Qur'an and not a magician who uses black magic. As psychiatrists we try to cure the illness ... we try to convince the patient that he or she needs help, he added. Al-Khateeb pointed out that some people attribute
[FairfieldLife] Woman, 90, shoots self during eviction; Fannie Mae forgives loan
Two days after a 90-year-old Ohio woman shot herself as deputies tried to evict her from her foreclosed home, Fannie Mae has decided to forgive the delinquent loan and give her the house outright, CNN reports. We're going to forgive whatever outstanding balance she had on the loan and give her the house, said Fannie Mae spokesman Brian. Given the circumstances, we think it's appropriate. Addie Polk of Akron is listed in critical condition at Akron General Medical Center. She shot herself at least twice in the upper body Wednesday afternoon as sheriff's deputies came to evict her from the house she has lived in since 1970. CNN has video of a neighbor describing what he saw. There's a lot of people like Miss Polk right now. That's the sad thing about it, said Akron City Council President Marco Sommerville.They might not be as old as her, some could be as old as her. This is just a major problem. CNN explains Polk's story: In 2004, Polk took out a 30-year, 6.375 percent mortgage for $45,620 with a Countrywide Home Loan office in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. The same day, she also took out an $11,380 line of credit. Over the next couple of years, Polk missed payments on the 101-year-old home that she and her late husband purchased in 1970. In 2007, Fannie Mae assumed the mortgage and later filed for foreclosure. Deputies had tried to serve Polk's eviction notice more than 30 times before Wednesday's incident, Sommerville said. She never came to the door, but the notes the deputies left would always disappear, so they knew she was inside and ambulatory, he said. Sommerville said Akron is creating programs to help people keep their homes. But what do you do when there's just so many people out there and the economy is in the shape that it's in? He added that many businesses and individuals have offered to help Polk. USA TODAY: http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/10/ohio-woman-90-s.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Woman, 90, shoots self during eviction; Fannie Mae forgives loan
do.rflex wrote: Two days after a 90-year-old Ohio woman shot herself as deputies tried to evict her from her foreclosed home, Fannie Mae has decided to forgive the delinquent loan and give her the house outright, CNN reports. We're going to forgive whatever outstanding balance she had on the loan and give her the house, said Fannie Mae spokesman Brian. Given the circumstances, we think it's appropriate. Addie Polk of Akron is listed in critical condition at Akron General Medical Center. She shot herself at least twice in the upper body Wednesday afternoon as sheriff's deputies came to evict her from the house she has lived in since 1970. CNN has video of a neighbor describing what he saw. There's a lot of people like Miss Polk right now. That's the sad thing about it, said Akron City Council President Marco Sommerville.They might not be as old as her, some could be as old as her. This is just a major problem. CNN explains Polk's story: In 2004, Polk took out a 30-year, 6.375 percent mortgage for $45,620 with a Countrywide Home Loan office in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. The same day, she also took out an $11,380 line of credit. Over the next couple of years, Polk missed payments on the 101-year-old home that she and her late husband purchased in 1970. In 2007, Fannie Mae assumed the mortgage and later filed for foreclosure. Deputies had tried to serve Polk's eviction notice more than 30 times before Wednesday's incident, Sommerville said. She never came to the door, but the notes the deputies left would always disappear, so they knew she was inside and ambulatory, he said. Sommerville said Akron is creating programs to help people keep their homes. But what do you do when there's just so many people out there and the economy is in the shape that it's in? He added that many businesses and individuals have offered to help Polk. USA TODAY: http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/10/ohio-woman-90-s.html I hear this kind of story a lot around here. People refinanced and then took out lines of credit on their homes as if it was free money. The selling agent for my house lives across the street and I chatted with her yesterday and she told me how many people have to come up with extra money when they sell. The house on the same corner was sold earlier this summer but the owners had refinanced when it was worth $640K and also took out a LOC. When they sold at around $500K they had to come up with an extra $27K because of the difference. I learned my lesson about loans back about 1980 when lost my gig but still had loans to pay off for TTC and TM-Sidhis. I learned that loans aren't free money. Bet others can relate to that here and how that lesson has saved their hides (or maybe not) during this crisis.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Warrior or Priest, which is it?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we wish to be ruled by a warrior or a priest? What do the Vedas say about this? The vedic literature favors the warrior class (kshatriyas) to govern society. The intellectuals (brahmins) are best suited as advisors and priests.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Hey O.J./It's called kkkarma, dude!'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent 44 minutes ago LAS VEGAS - O.J. Simpson, who went from American sports idol to celebrity-in-exile after he was acquitted of murder in 1995, was found guilty Friday of robbing two sports-memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in a Las Vegas hotel room. It's not over until it's over. OJ still can appeal the verdict. His alternative lifestyle since the LA acquittal case has been as a person in exile in Florida. And, now he has a chance to live his life as a convict in jail. It's actually a sad case of a man who rose to the heights of adulation and crash down to a level of an outcaste in society. if(window.yzq_d==null)window.yzq_d=new Object(); window.yzq_d['jSUeAEwNBlo-']='U=13fbqc3kp%2fN%3djSUeAEwNBlo-%2fC% 3d632876.11908692.12484106.1442997%2fD%3dLREC%2fB%3d5113893%2fV%3d1'; The 61-year-old former football star could spend the rest of his life in prison. Sentencing was set for Dec. 5. A weary and somber Simpson released a heavy sigh as the charges were read by the clerk in Clark County District Court. He was immediately taken into custody. The Hall of Fame football star was convicted of kidnapping, armed robbery and 10 other charges for gathering up five men a year ago and storming into a room at a hotel-casino, where the group seized several game balls, plaques and photos. Prosecutors said two of the men with him were armed; one of them said Simpson asked him to bring a gun. The verdict came 13 years to the day after Simpson was cleared of murdering his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ronald Goldman, in Los Angeles in one of the most sensational trials of the 20th century. I don't like to use the word payback, defense attorney Yale Galanter said. I can tell you from the beginning my biggest concern ... was whether or not the jury would be able to separate their very strong feelings about Mr. Simpson and judge him fairly and honestly. Simpson's co-defendant, Clarence C.J. Stewart, 54, also was found guilty on all charges in the Las Vegas case and taken into custody. Simpson showed little emotion as officers handcuffed him and walked him out of the courtroom. His sister, Carmelita Durio, sobbed behind him in the arms of Simpson's friend, Tom Scotto, who said I love you as Simpson passed by. As spectators left the courtroom, Durio collapsed. Jurors made no eye contact with the defendants as they entered the courtroom. They declined to answer questions after the verdict was read. Galanter said his client had expected the outcome, and in a courthouse conversation with an Associated Press reporter on Thursday, Simpson had implied as much. Simpson said he felt melancholy and that he was afraid that I won't get to go to my kids' college graduations after I managed to get them through college. Galanter said it was not a happy day for anybody. His only hope is the appellate process, he said. Clark County spokesman Dan Kulin said prosecutors would not comment until the case was completely resolved. Judge Jackie Glass made no comment other than to thank the jury for its service and to deny motions for the defendants to be released on bail. She refused to give the lawyers extended time to file a motion for new trial, which under Nevada law must be filed within seven days. The attorneys said they needed time to submit a voluminous record. I've sat through the trial, Glass said. If you want a motion for new trial, send me something. Stewart's attorney, Brent Bryson, promised to appeal. If there was ever a case that should have been severed in the history of jurisprudence, it's this case, he said of unsuccessful attempts to separate Stewart's case from Simpson's because of the spillover effect. From the beginning, Simpson and his lawyers argued the incident was not a robbery, but an attempt to reclaim mementos that had been stolen from him. He said he did not ask anyone to bring a weapon and did not see any guns. The defense portrayed Simpson as a victim of shady characters who wanted to make a buck off his famous name, and police officers who saw his arrest as an opportunity to get him and avenge his acquittal. Prosecutors said Simpson's ownership of the memorabilia was irrelevant; it was still a crime to try to take things by force. When they went into that room and forced the victims to the far side of the room, pulling out guns and yelling, `Don't let anybody out of here!' six very large people detaining these two victims in the room with the intent to take property through force or violence from them that's kidnapping, prosecutor David Roger said. Kidnapping is punishable by five years to life in prison. Armed robbery carries a mandatory sentence of at least two years behind bars, and could bring as much as 30. Simpson, who now lives in Miami, did not testify but was
[FairfieldLife] -Clueless
Sarah Palin: She then slammed Barack Obama calling him disqualified to be President of the United States, Some of his comments that he has made about the war that I think may in my world disqualifies someone from consideration as the next commander in chief. Palin said, Some of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there supposedly just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That's reckless. So I wanted to talk about things like that. So I guess I have to apologize about being a little annoyed, but that is also an indication of being outside that Washington elite and being outside the media elite also and just wanting to talk and just wanting to talk to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand for. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, two weeks ago: U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates apologized Wednesday for recent U.S. airstrikes that have killed civilians in Afghanistan. I offer all Afghans my sincere condolences and personal regrets for the recent loss of innocent life as a result of coalition air strikes, Gates said at a news conference outside the U.S. Embassy in Kabul. While no military has ever done more to prevent civilian casualties, it is clear that we have to work even harder.-- Daniel Larison has been chronicling her nonsense on this on an almost daily basis, so I will just leave you with a quote from him about the Palin choice: For my part, I have made no secret that I welcome McCain's defeat, so you might say that I am so biased against the ticket that you should ignore what I say, but it seems clear to me that the ever-declining standards that conservatives have set for what makes a candidate acceptable to them and the declining quality of the political leadership they have received are very closely related.-- It is not an unfair attack to state that on matters great and small alike, Sarah Palin has demonstrated that she has no idea what she is talking about. And on the few occasions that she decides she should speak freely to the press, it is clear that she is just passing on jingoistic claptrap and unadulterated nonsense. Which, then again, may explain her appeal to the Republican base. ~~ by John Cole, former Republican Links here: http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11699
[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question
What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 1) Total federal (public) debt 2) Foreign holding of federal debt And what % of federal debt per capita is OK? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To All: It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today and the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA national debt. Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently forget to address this question. Why? Because it's a growing cancer that cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes. President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped reduce the national debt--but not by much. In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to the national debt. Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that the party is over. We have to face this problem now in order to eliminate the problem within this generation or the next. But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Woman, 90, shoots self during eviction; Fannie Mae forgives loan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflex wrote: Two days after a 90-year-old Ohio woman shot herself as deputies tried to evict her from her foreclosed home, Fannie Mae has decided to forgive the delinquent loan and give her the house outright, CNN reports. We're going to forgive whatever outstanding balance she had on the loan and give her the house, said Fannie Mae spokesman Brian. Given the circumstances, we think it's appropriate. Addie Polk of Akron is listed in critical condition at Akron General Medical Center. She shot herself at least twice in the upper body Wednesday afternoon as sheriff's deputies came to evict her from the house she has lived in since 1970. CNN has video of a neighbor describing what he saw. There's a lot of people like Miss Polk right now. That's the sad thing about it, said Akron City Council President Marco Sommerville.They might not be as old as her, some could be as old as her. This is just a major problem. CNN explains Polk's story: In 2004, Polk took out a 30-year, 6.375 percent mortgage for $45,620 with a Countrywide Home Loan office in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. The same day, she also took out an $11,380 line of credit. Over the next couple of years, Polk missed payments on the 101-year-old home that she and her late husband purchased in 1970. In 2007, Fannie Mae assumed the mortgage and later filed for foreclosure. Deputies had tried to serve Polk's eviction notice more than 30 times before Wednesday's incident, Sommerville said. She never came to the door, but the notes the deputies left would always disappear, so they knew she was inside and ambulatory, he said. Sommerville said Akron is creating programs to help people keep their homes. But what do you do when there's just so many people out there and the economy is in the shape that it's in? He added that many businesses and individuals have offered to help Polk. USA TODAY: http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/10/ohio-woman-90-s.html I hear this kind of story a lot around here. People refinanced and then took out lines of credit on their homes as if it was free money. The selling agent for my house lives across the street and I chatted with her yesterday and she told me how many people have to come up with extra money when they sell. The house on the same corner was sold earlier this summer but the owners had refinanced when it was worth $640K and also took out a LOC. When they sold at around $500K they had to come up with an extra $27K because of the difference. I learned my lesson about loans back about 1980 when lost my gig but still had loans to pay off for TTC and TM-Sidhis. I learned that loans aren't free money. Bet others can relate to that here and how that lesson has saved their hides (or maybe not) during this crisis. The buyer HAS to *know* the loan terms and his/her *realistic* ability to pay it back. My father repeated to me over and over to never bet on the come. However, it's obvious at this point that there has been a multitude of unscrupulous lenders who have mislead gullible and/or vulnerable buyers with 'easy' beginning rates and false pitches of market prosperity - solely for the purpose of closing a deal for their fee. This is a direct consequence of 'free market' deregulation. It's like they decriminalized fucking people over.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield and Iowa Christmas Cards
On Oct 4, 2008, at 11:39 AM, gullible fool wrote: Very, very nice photos, although at least one of them seems out of place as a Christmas card: http://beingandseeing.com/miscellaneous/source/p1010235-edit.htm Rick, I was just kidding--the photos are really nice. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 1) Total federal (public) debt 2) Foreign holding of federal debt And what % of federal debt per capita is OK? The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too much to bear for any country. There should be a goal to at least reduce the debt by half in about 25 years. Once that's reached, there should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another half. By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant. Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely collapse. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today and the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA national debt. Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently forget to address this question. Why? Because it's a growing cancer that cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes. President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped reduce the national debt--but not by much. In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to the national debt. Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that the party is over. We have to face this problem now in order to eliminate the problem within this generation or the next. But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sarah Palin: She then slammed Barack Obama calling him disqualified to be President of the United States, Some of his comments that he has made about the war that I think may in my world disqualifies someone from consideration as the next commander in chief. Palin said, Some of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there supposedly just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That's reckless. So I wanted to talk about things like that. So I guess I have to apologize about being a little annoyed, but that is also an indication of being outside that Washington elite and being outside the media elite also and just wanting to talk and just wanting to talk to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand for. IMO, the McCain campaign is realizing that they are behind in the polls. They are taking harder swings at the illusive ball of victory, hoping for a grand slam. As such, Palin has been designated to take swipes at Obama's increasing lead in the polls. It's a double edged sword. She can also strike out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Depression or socialism?
Apparently the 'caste' system was first brought to India from the West during the 'Aryan' invasions. Peter wrote: Williams is that an old Gujurati name? Indeed, the name 'Williams' covers the earth. There have been 'Willams' in Gujarat certainly since before 1858, the beginning of the British Raj. The Gujaratis are descended from the Aryans who migrated to Gujarat from Georgia around the first century BC. But there is no evidence that the inhabitants of Lothal supported the 'caste' system.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 1) Total federal (public) debt 2) Foreign holding of federal debt And what % of federal debt per capita is OK? The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too much to bear for any country. Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a country with a billion people? There should be a goal to at least reduce the debt by half in about 25 years. Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy? Once that's reached, there should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another half. By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant. So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, everything else being equal than one with some debt? Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely collapse. You get big Palin points for skirting the question: What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 1) Total federal (public) debt 2) Foreign holding of federal debt Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be instructive to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an appropriate level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no federal debt. Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this should be done in all upfront cash? Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or better than reducing debt, during a recession? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today and the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA national debt. Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently forget to address this question. Why? Because it's a growing cancer that cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes. President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped reduce the national debt--but not by much. In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to the national debt. Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that the party is over. We have to face this problem now in order to eliminate the problem within this generation or the next. But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
[FairfieldLife] Re: FDR on TV in 1929? -- Biden gaffe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned the gaffe of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media treatment of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.) My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New York in 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the city where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on radio and TV to make speeches about it. Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp is swallowing it hook line a sinker. Looks like Biden was right. OffWorld Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what could pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the most limited sense of both words. They were one-inch screens and the whole enterprise was of an experimental nature. And the broadcasts were local, not state-wide. There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929. However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has been making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question
Graph of national debt as % of GDP http://wasatchecon.blogspot.com/2007/05/us-national-debt-as-percentage-of-gdp.html http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/09/28/165539.php As I pointed out yesterday, the debt / GNP ratio was lowest (in modern era) under Carter. Was the economy strongest during the Carter years? http://zfacts.com/p/318.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 1) Total federal (public) debt 2) Foreign holding of federal debt And what % of federal debt per capita is OK? The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too much to bear for any country. Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a country with a billion people? There should be a goal to at least reduce the debt by half in about 25 years. Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy? Once that's reached, there should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another half. By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant. So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, everything else being equal than one with some debt? Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely collapse. You get big Palin points for skirting the question: What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 1) Total federal (public) debt 2) Foreign holding of federal debt Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be instructive to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an appropriate level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no federal debt. Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this should be done in all upfront cash? Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or better than reducing debt, during a recession? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today and the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA national debt. Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently forget to address this question. Why? Because it's a growing cancer that cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes. President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped reduce the national debt--but not by much. In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to the national debt. Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that the party is over. We have to face this problem now in order to eliminate the problem within this generation or the next. But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
[FairfieldLife] Republicans Desperate to shutdown Palin Troopergate Investigation
Republican state legislators, at the behest of the McCain campaign, have now filed an emergency appeal with the Alaska Supreme Court trying to shutdown the 'Troopergate' investigation. The plaintiffs (echoing the Bush v. Gore decision) claim the plaintiffs and Alaskans will suffer irreparable harm if the Branchflower report is released, as scheduled, next Friday, October 10th. Bear in mind, the people in charge of the investigation moved the release date up so as not to have it released on the eve of the election. That was the original schedule long before Palin was chosen as veep nominee. And the GOP lawyers the McCain campaign sent to Alaska have succeeded in having almost all the parties connected to Palin refuse to cooperate with the investigation. So it's not completely clear just what Branchflower is going to be able to come up with, either inculpating or exculpating. But this is an opportunity to refocus our attention on something that has been lost in the nonstop coverage of Palin's campaign trail lies and botched interviews: her record in Alaska strongly suggests she lacks the character to be trusted with high office. Though the troopergate scandal is tied narrowly to Palin's firing of Alaska's top cop, Walt Monegan, the heart of the story is about a private vendetta that Palin tried to settle using her new powers as the chief executive of the state of Alaska. Thwarted in doing so, all evidence suggests she fired the public official who refused to execute her plan. Nor is it the only example. Both as mayor and governor, Palin has shown the tell-tale signs of a politician who hires cronies and fires or blackballs critics. This part of Palin's record gets deep in the weeds. So it's not as flashy as the boffo interviews or and irresistible as the straight-up lies she's been caught in. But we need no closer example than the Bush administration to know that people like this are dangerous and corrosive to our public institutions. --Josh Marshall Links: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/221903.php
[FairfieldLife] Bailout unfair to Canadians
I've read several reports in the Phoenix area over the last year that suggest that Canadians are responsible for anywhere from 10% to 20% of all real estate purchases in the area. This has been an ideal time for Canadians to purchase American second homes: (1) the Canadian dollar has never been stronger than at any time in the past 30 years; and (2) real estate prices are at very low prices. But the bailout may rescue the real estate market, bringing prices up, making purchases more expensive for Canadians. Gosh, I wonder whether this is a violation in any way of NAFTA? I'm only half joking when I say that because I know there are oodles of provisions in it and other trade agreements between the two countries regarding unfair subsidies. Would this be an unfair subsidy and, if so, is it prohibited under NAFTA?
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What are you-when your not having thoughts?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pure energy and intelligence. (Hopefully) � _say it ain't so... What are you when you ARE having thoughts? Lawson (lots more quotes appropriate above, but left 'em out...)
[FairfieldLife] Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire
But whats Truth got to do with it? Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. Speaking right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently lying to the American people and world. With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized. And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so clear he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all. It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can be (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what handlers have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a cooked-up lies from sanity and truth? (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I held their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing and cute. Except when she hit my shoes. ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: [snip] I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned the gaffe of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media treatment of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.) My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New York in 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the city where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on radio and TV to make speeches about it. Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp is swallowing it hook line a sinker. Looks like Biden was right. OffWorld Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what could pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the most limited sense of both words. They were one-inch screens and the whole enterprise was of an experimental nature. And the broadcasts were local, not state-wide. There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929. However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has been making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bailout unfair to Canadians
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've read several reports in the Phoenix area over the last year that suggest that Canadians are responsible for anywhere from 10% to 20% of all real estate purchases in the area. This has been an ideal time for Canadians to purchase American second homes: (1) the Canadian dollar has never been stronger than at any time in the past 30 years; and (2) real estate prices are at very low prices. But the bailout may rescue the real estate market, bringing prices up, making purchases more expensive for Canadians. Gosh, I wonder whether this is a violation in any way of NAFTA? I'm only half joking when I say that because I know there are oodles of provisions in it and other trade agreements between the two countries regarding unfair subsidies. Would this be an unfair subsidy and, if so, is it prohibited under NAFTA? Funny point. But highlights a major problem with the bailout. it indirectly props up housing prices above levels consistent with the fundamentals. this imbalance with continue to create problems and haunt the economy and tax payer until housing prices are left to fall to fundamentals-based levels.
[FairfieldLife] America Is About To be Reintroduced To Rev. Wright
The GOP is desperate. Expect the worst of the worst to start hitting here soon. Jeremiah Wright is overdue for his second act, as well as Ayers, the Muslim crap, and anything else desperate Republicans can fabricate. At this point, they literally have nothing to lose. ~~ Markos Moulitsas http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/1/165238/584/399/616938 Flop sweat smells like fear: Sen. John McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama's character, believing that to win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions about the Democrat's judgment, honesty and personal associations, several top Republicans said. With just a month to go until Election Day, McCain's team has decided that its emphasis on the senator's biography as a war hero, experienced lawmaker and straight-talking maverick is insufficient to close a growing gap with Obama. The Arizonan's campaign is also eager to move the conversation away from the economy, an issue that strongly favors Obama and has helped him to a lead in many recent polls. We're going to get a little tougher, a senior Republican operative said, indicating that a fresh batch of television ads is coming. We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon. There's no question that we have to change the subject here, said the operative, who was not authorized to discuss strategy and spoke on the condition of anonymity. In other words, they are going to behave like Republicans in October. No one could have ever predicted this would happen. That could explain this pointless piece in the NY Times today about William Ayers (long story short- there really is no relationship there), and could explain why the wingnuttosphere was whipping themselves into a froth about the FBI's raiding the office of Larry Walsh, when it turns out they did nothing of the sort. The thing about this is that while it will no doubt infuriate folks like me, the good news is that we know some stuff about negative advertising- yes, it works, but it also drags down the negatives of the people launching it. Additionally, we know that there are ways to combat negative campaigning, and that the Obama campaign is aware of this and knows what they are doing- on many of the things that will be brought up, the country has already dealt with them and moved on. Another factor is the enthusiasm factor- most of the Obama supporters I know would crawl over glass to vote for him in November. And finally, for those of you who are Michael Pfau fans, we know that elections usually end badly for folks who never get out of the negative campaigning phase of the election cycle. In other words, bring it on. McCain will continue to trash his brand as a straight-talking bi-partisan maverick, the media will be repulsed, and it really is too little too late. I really am surprised that they thought they could run a substance free biography based campaign during a two-front war and an economic crisis, but by now I should never be surprised by Republican stupidity. ~~ by John Cole, former Republican Key links here: http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11715
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Palin: the meltdown begins
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip This happened only about six weeks ago. The smear was undoubtedly given to her by one of her handlers to use as she saw fit. What on earth makes you think the McCain campaign cares if it's been debunked?? It screws up his off-the-cuff, ad hoc, inner-world, unsubstantiated, unresearched theory? He didn't have to research it, just read the article he himself cited. Apparently he only skimmed the first couple of paragraphs, then assumed he magically knew the whole story, including where she got the idea for the attack and why she decided to use it. What's really funny is that there's more basis in reality for Palin's attack than there is for Barry's fantasies about it. And then he bases his subject heading on his fantasies, as if they were established fact. Remember last week when he mocked people here by accusing them of calling McCain a hero? Nobody on FFL had called McCain a hero except Barry himself, in a previous spate of mockery of McCain. The Republicans generally know when they're making stuff up; they just don't care. I don't think Barry is even aware that's what he's doing. It's no wonder he's so threatened by solipsists, even to the point of punching them in the stomach to get them to shut up.
[FairfieldLife] Look at what else this paper publishes (was Re: Arab News Publishes...)
Ha Ha! Classic! *** I'm sure everybody is aware that ignorance is not solely held by towelheads: How does the U.S. compare with other countries in terms of belief in evolution? Not so hot. A study of attitudes in 34 countries published in Science in 2006 shows that the United States ranks last in popular acceptance of evolution except for Turkey. Almost 40 percent of Americans in this study flatly rejected evolution... http://tinyurl.com/3kvoo3
[FairfieldLife] McCain coffee mug
[Benedict Arnold, War Hero Large Mug] Benedict Arnold was a war hero too
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless
I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part of an elite. She is certainly right about that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sarah Palin: She then slammed Barack Obama calling him disqualified to be President of the United States, Some of his comments that he has made about the war that I think may in my world disqualifies someone from consideration as the next commander in chief. Palin said, Some of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there supposedly just air raiding villages and killing civilians. That's reckless. So I wanted to talk about things like that. So I guess I have to apologize about being a little annoyed, but that is also an indication of being outside that Washington elite and being outside the media elite also and just wanting to talk and just wanting to talk to Americans without the filter and let them know what we stand for. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, two weeks ago: U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates apologized Wednesday for recent U.S. airstrikes that have killed civilians in Afghanistan. I offer all Afghans my sincere condolences and personal regrets for the recent loss of innocent life as a result of coalition air strikes, Gates said at a news conference outside the U.S. Embassy in Kabul. While no military has ever done more to prevent civilian casualties, it is clear that we have to work even harder.-- Daniel Larison has been chronicling her nonsense on this on an almost daily basis, so I will just leave you with a quote from him about the Palin choice: For my part, I have made no secret that I welcome McCain's defeat, so you might say that I am so biased against the ticket that you should ignore what I say, but it seems clear to me that the ever-declining standards that conservatives have set for what makes a candidate acceptable to them and the declining quality of the political leadership they have received are very closely related.-- It is not an unfair attack to state that on matters great and small alike, Sarah Palin has demonstrated that she has no idea what she is talking about. And on the few occasions that she decides she should speak freely to the press, it is clear that she is just passing on jingoistic claptrap and unadulterated nonsense. Which, then again, may explain her appeal to the Republican base. ~~ by John Cole, former Republican Links here: http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=11699
[FairfieldLife] Beyond the observable universe...
Hundreds of galaxy clusters are flowing toward the same spot in the sky beyond the observable universe, a University of Hawaii astronomer and NASA team members have discovered. http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless
... she is not part of an elite. She is certainly right about that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part of an elite. She is certainly right about that. My bet, however, is that she honestly believes that she IS a part of a very small and very important elite -- God's elite. My take on the woman since seeing her give that talk to the graduating missionaries of her old church, is that she's a Class A Religious Fanatic. Total nutcase. She said then -- and she believes now -- that God has big plans for her. She doesn't believe she's destined to be the Vice President; she believes that she's destined to be President. And she believes that God wants this to happen. Which leads me to what Sarah Palin must think of Barrack Obama, the man who is currently beating the pants off of her and the wrinkled old guy who is merely a temporary obstacle to her doing God's work and becoming President. Think about it -- if she really DOES believe that God has big plans for her, what must slipping lower and lower in the polls leave her thinking that Obama is, or works for? Could it be...Satan? Think this is silly? Watch her face and listen to her voice every time she talks about Obama lately. Come to your own conclusions.
[FairfieldLife] CFLs may cut mercury exposure
http://tinyurl.com/4c6abe http://tinyurl.com/4c6abe Fluorescent lighting http://home.howstuffworks.com/fluorescent-lamp.htm uses less energy than comparably bright incandescent bulbs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_light_bulb do. So switching to fluorescents will shave your energy bill. The big surprise: Relying on fluorescent lights may also cut how much mercury that toxic metallic element is released into the environment each year. That finding was not intuitively obvious, since fluorescent lights contain mercury and the bulbs they're replacing do not. But new calculations by a team of Yale University http://www.yale.edu/ scientists now indicate that when the electricity used to power lighting comes primarily from coal-fired generating plants, the energy savings associated with fluorescent bulbs will translate into reductions in coal burning. And since most coal contains small but substantial quantities of mercury, burning less coal will reduce the electric industry's release of mercury into the environment. In fact, most mercury emissions in the United States today trace to coal use http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs095-01/ .
[FairfieldLife] Scathing commentary on Sarah Palin by feminist Eve Ensler
Watch: http://www.goleft.tv/view.asp?c=27v=1855
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part of an elite. She is certainly right about that. My bet, however, is that she honestly believes that she IS a part of a very small and very important elite -- God's elite. ** I don't see her as a zealot, but just a lightweight with hazy thinking who gives lip service to standard Christian right thinking. This writer suggests that her good looks help promote the sale of that thinking in the marketplace of ideas: ...Sarah Palin represents the state-of-the-art version of a particular type of womanlet's call her the Sexy Puritanthat's become a familiar and potent figure in the culture war in recent years. Sexy Puritans have been around for a while. Anita Bryant, the Miss America runner-up turned anti-gay crusader in the 1970s, was an early exemplar of the trend. The young Britney Spears, provocatively dressed and loudly proclaiming her virginity, is a more modern version, though that didn't turn out so well. Elisabeth Hasselbeck, the most conservative member of The View, has a bit of the Sexy Puritan about her, as does Monica Goodling, the former aide to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales who admitted to engaging in improperly political hiring practices, including the dismissal of a career prosecutor Goodling believed to be a lesbian. (Puritanical footnote: Goodling is reputed to have been responsible for the draping of nude statues at the Department of Justice.) Sexy Puritans engage in the culture war on two levelsnot simply by advocating conservative positions on hot-button social issues but by embodying nonthreatening mainstream standards of female beauty and behavior at the same time. The net result is a paradox, a bit of cognitive dissonance very useful to the cultural right: You get a little thrill along with your traditional values, a wink along with the wagging finger. Somehow, you don't feel quite as much like a prig as you expected to. http://www.slate.com/id/2200814/
[FairfieldLife] Karma-- Coming Home to Roost for US -- or bush supporters?
B and or others said the US is in for it -- having started an invasion abroad -- etc. Assuming for sake of discussion that karma is a valid principal -- how does this work. Most here did not support Bush. In was both grand and subtle, we have fought against him and his madness for most of the decade. Why would the karma from his war come to us. Because our taxes -- mandated by the govt paid for it? Seems a weak link -- particularly since our taxes di not pay for it -- the chinese did. Will China go to hell in a handbasket for loaning themoney to fight the war? How much karmas national and how much individual (or perhaps group)? Bush and republicans have their karma coming due for lying and cheating into a war. And then managing it with disasterous ineptitude. Will those opposing the war receeve the same karmic blast -- simply because they are unfortunate enough to live in the same country as Bush and his devil friends? Seems thats suffering enough. Take it back a step -- and some say getting Bush as president is our karma. if so, is it a seed within a seed. We really f'ed up somewhere in the past so we got Bush as president -- and contained within that is all of the karma of Iraq? If some do good and great things, is the karma shared with all Americans? What if they are Californians? Is it shared mostly with them? That is -- there are many groups, boundaries, etc. Why is the American bucket (for karma) any more significant than any of the othr groups and subsets to which we are connected? By hosing Iraq, did we suddenly create the good karma to get an intelligent and considerate president in Nov?
[FairfieldLife] Re: -Clueless
Dana Perino -- the presidents press secretary -- is a more subtle paradox. She appears articulate, smart, well informed, is attractive and vibrant -- and seems nimble and fast on her feet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dana-perino-02.jpg I find her enticing to watch -- even when defending and spinning Bush and Bush policies. But it appears to be a its a veneer -- http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://toohugeworld.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/dana-perino.jpgimgrefurl=http://toohugeworld.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/short-memory/h=321w=451sz=35tbnid=j8zG7eWhKAEJ::tbnh=90tbnw=127prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddana%2Bperinohl=enusg=__N0LS1zcU5PkodN1wNCLI5gdENzI=sa=Xoi=image_resultresnum=2ct=imagecd=1 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part of an elite. She is certainly right about that. My bet, however, is that she honestly believes that she IS a part of a very small and very important elite -- God's elite. ** I don't see her as a zealot, but just a lightweight with hazy thinking who gives lip service to standard Christian right thinking. This writer suggests that her good looks help promote the sale of that thinking in the marketplace of ideas: ...Sarah Palin represents the state-of-the-art version of a particular type of womanlet's call her the Sexy Puritanthat's become a familiar and potent figure in the culture war in recent years. Sexy Puritans have been around for a while. Anita Bryant, the Miss America runner-up turned anti-gay crusader in the 1970s, was an early exemplar of the trend. The young Britney Spears, provocatively dressed and loudly proclaiming her virginity, is a more modern version, though that didn't turn out so well. Elisabeth Hasselbeck, the most conservative member of The View, has a bit of the Sexy Puritan about her, as does Monica Goodling, the former aide to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales who admitted to engaging in improperly political hiring practices, including the dismissal of a career prosecutor Goodling believed to be a lesbian. (Puritanical footnote: Goodling is reputed to have been responsible for the draping of nude statues at the Department of Justice.) Sexy Puritans engage in the culture war on two levelsnot simply by advocating conservative positions on hot-button social issues but by embodying nonthreatening mainstream standards of female beauty and behavior at the same time. The net result is a paradox, a bit of cognitive dissonance very useful to the cultural right: You get a little thrill along with your traditional values, a wink along with the wagging finger. Somehow, you don't feel quite as much like a prig as you expected to. http://www.slate.com/id/2200814/
[FairfieldLife] McCain Campaign Mngr Rick Davis on Smearing your Opponent
The premise of any smear campaign rests on a central truth of politics: Most of us will vote for a candidate we like and respect, even if we don't agree with him on every issue. But if you can cripple a voter's basic trust in a candidate, you can probably turn his vote. The idea is to find some piece of personal information that is tawdry enough to raise doubts, repelling a candidate's natural supporters. [...] It's not necessary, however, for a smear to be true to be effective. The most effective smears are based on a kernel of truth and applied in a way that exploits a candidate's political weakness. Rebutting tawdry attacks focuses public attention on them, and prevents the campaign from talking issues. ~~ McCain campaign manager Rick Davis Boston Globe: http://tinyurl.com/53pjdo
[FairfieldLife] a very peaceful ''hurricane''
India, Land of the Veda: Tour on Maharishi's Vedic Science by renowned brain research expert an 'overwhelming success' by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News Translate This Article 4 October 2008 Speaking on Maharishi Global Family Chat on 1 October, Raja Harris Kaplan, Raja of Invincible India, the land of the Veda, for the Global Country of World Peace, introduced Dr Alarik Arenander and Dr Cynthia Arenander and spoke of the 'overwhelming success' of their tour of Northern India. The Arenanders are presenting Maharishi's Vedic Science to thousands of people there from the perspective of modern science and brain wave research. Raja Harris began by saying that recently in India he 'had met a force of nature, a very peaceful ''hurricane'' by the name of Hurricane Alarik and Hurricane Cynthia Arenander, who have come through India with a hurricane of peace and enlightenment'. (Raja Harris was alluding humorously to a recent series of storms in the western hemisphere.) Raja Harris said that 'this most fabulous couple' are still in India, and introduced the Arenanders, who 'by their own look and feeling, even before words start, convince people to practise Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's technologies of consciousness. And then when they speak, everyone says ''I want to start right now.'' ' Speaking from Allahabad, India, Dr Alarik Arenander explained that they are in the middle of a six-week tour of India. He expressed their thanks to Raja Harris and Dr Girish Varma*, the leader of the 'gigantic' Indian organization of the Global Country of World Peace, for all their guidance, bliss, and support during the tour. Dr Alarik also thanked and praised all the individual organizers of the tour for 'so kindly taking care of everything' and looking after them so well. Dr Arenander explained they have given 55 presentations to literally thousands of people in groups of 200-500—including government officials, business people, students, teachers, Rotary members—many of whom are leaders in business and government institutions. Dr Alarik said that when they speak the people are 'enraptured with Maharishi's knowledge. It comes back to them in this logical, simple, research-oriented format, but it is Maharishi they love automatically, and [the knowledge] coming back in this scientific garb, they like it. They just so much appreciate it that everybody wants to start' the practice of Transcendental Meditation. Dr Alarik showed slides of the faculty and Transcendental Meditation Teachers working at Allahabad University—where Maharishi himself was a student—which has 100,000 students. There was a great response to a lecture the Arenanders gave to the leaders of the university, and Maharishi University of Management has organized a team of Transcendental Meditation Teachers to be in Allahabad to help structure a programme for teaching the many individuals at the university. Dr Cynthia Arenander added that 'the air there is so traditional, and to think that Maharishi was there is a very special feeling.' Dr Alarik showed the EEG (electroencephalograph) reading for a local practitioner of Transcendental Meditation, which confirmed again 'that indeed, at the beginning of Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation Technique, within a very few moments, there is a phenomenon in the brain, a ''neuro-switch'', in which there is a very rapid and highly sustained onset of brain orderliness.' The appearance of pure alpha frequencies, coherence, and power is a 'very great indicator, a characteristic of the experience of Atma [the Self], the experience of Turiya [the fourth state of consciousness], Transcendental Consciousness. There is a sustained, very high level of coherence between the two sides of the brain and especially in the pre-frontal cortex, the learning or control centre of our lives,' Dr Arenander explained. 'This phenomenon is unique to Transcendental Meditation, and is at the basis of all good things that come from the brain, and therefore all good things that come in the lives of those practising Transcendental Meditation.' Dr Cynthia added that 'a lot of the success is due to the old saying, ''Seeing is believing.'' ' When people actually see rather than just hear about all the scientific research, 'a switch goes on, she said. 'We feel that the doctors, especially, are saying that now they are given the documentation, this logic, that's how the brain is trained'—when they grasp the logic, 'as one doctor from Jabalpur Hospital said, ''Now you have our stamp of approval. We've always wanted to believe about Maharishi's Transcendental Meditation since Maharishi comes from this area, but now that we can actual see it, you have our stamp of approval.' This doctor will be learning Transcendental Meditation himself. Global Good News will continue to report on the Arenanders' tour of India in the coming days. * Dr Girish Varma is National Director of
[FairfieldLife] Palin: Barky is palling around with terrorists
At least someone in this campaign has some balls. This to me is one of the main reasons this man cannot be president...and the ties to William Ayers run deep. Talk about vetting. Who the hell vetted Obama during the primaries about this? What I'd like to know is: how many Americans are actually aware of the William Ayers connection? Is it a large or small percentage? And of those that know about it, how many will NOT vote for Obama because of it? If it's a large percentage, you can bet that a whole lotta money will be spent informing the public of the connection. And please don't retort with: Oh, having a connection with William Ayers is something that mainstream people in Chicago have been doing for years; why Mayor Daley has worked with Ayers. Well, two wrongs don't make a right. And, besides, Barky is supposed to be different; he's supposed to be change we can believe it...a leader who doesn't do things just because everyone else in the crowd is doing it. If Barky is just going to be one more run-of-the-mill politicians, why do we need him? What we need is a REAL leader; someone who would have had the courage and fortitude to say: I don't care how many of my fellow Chicago politicians approve of and work with this self- admitted terrorist, I won't have anything to do with him. But, no, Barky is NOT a unique thinker, he is NOT someone who will go AGAINST the crowd; he is a go-with-the-flow kind of guy who will, obviously, give in to peer-group pressure. This is not a leader; this is a follower. We need a leader as president. As Palin says: This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America. Barky is, simply, unacceptable to be president. --- Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists Oct 4 03:32 PM US/Eastern By JIM KUHNHENN Associated Press Writer 'America Needs to Know This' ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) - Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of palling around with terrorists because of his association with a former 1960s radical, stepping up the campaign's effort to portray Obama as unacceptable to American voters. Palin's reference was to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group the Weather Underground. Its members took credit for bombings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol, during the tumultuous Vietnam War era four decades ago. Obama, who was a child when the group was active, served on a charity board with Ayers several years ago and has denounced his radical views and activities. The Republican campaign, falling behind Obama in polls, plans to make attacks on Obama's character a centerpiece of presidential candidate John McCain's message with a month remaining before Election Day. Palin told a group of donors at a private airport, Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country. She also said, This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America. Palin, Alaska's governor, said that donors on a greeting line had encouraged her and McCain to get tougher on Obama. She said an aide then advised her, Sarah, the gloves are off, the heels are on, go get to them. The escalated effort to attack Obama's character dovetails with TV ads by outside groups questioning Obama's ties to Ayers, convicted former Obama fundraiser Antoin Tony Rezko and Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He and Obama live in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood and served together on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops community groups to help the poor. Obama left the board in December 2002. Obama was the first chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a school-reform group of which Ayers was a founder. Ayers also held a meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran for office in the mid-1990s. Palin cited a New York Times story published Saturday that detailed Obama's relationship with Ayers. In an interview with CBS News earlier in the week, Palin didn't name any newspapers or magazines that had shaped her view of the world. Summing up its findings, the Times wrote: A review of records of the schools project and interviews with a dozen people who know both men, suggest that Mr. Obama, 47, has played down his contacts with Mr. Ayers, 63. But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called 'somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.' Earlier Saturday, Palin spent 35 minutes at a diner in Greenwood Village where she met with Blue Star Moms, a support group of families whose sons or daughters are serving in
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire
According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of getting their facts wrong in the debate. Here's their full fact check on the debate: http://tinyurl.com/4fpela --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But whats Truth got to do with it? Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. Speaking right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently lying to the American people and world. With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized. And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so clear he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all. It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can be (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what handlers have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a cooked-up lies from sanity and truth? (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I held their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing and cute. Except when she hit my shoes. ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: [snip] I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned the gaffe of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media treatment of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.) My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New York in 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the city where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on radio and TV to make speeches about it. Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp is swallowing it hook line a sinker. Looks like Biden was right. OffWorld Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what could pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the most limited sense of both words. They were one-inch screens and the whole enterprise was of an experimental nature. And the broadcasts were local, not state-wide. There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929. However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has been making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
[FairfieldLife] Who's more of an elitist/nutcase/religious fanatic: Barry or Sarah?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: I wonder how many people actually fall for Palin's nonsense. More than one would like to think, I imagine. It really is fantastic, that she can go around saying, in effect, that every time she reveals herself to be an ignorant fool, it merely shows that she is not part of an elite. She is certainly right about that. My bet, however, is that she honestly believes that she IS a part of a very small and very important elite -- God's elite. My take on the woman since seeing her give that talk to the graduating missionaries of her old church, is that she's a Class A Religious Fanatic. Total nutcase. She said then -- and she believes now -- that God has big plans for her. [snip] No matter how nutty you may paint Sarah Palin as a religious fanatic, Barry, nothing she has ever done in the spiritual field comes close to the fanaticism and nuttiness that you are/were involved in spiritually. See: http://tinyurl.com/3uytfb That's why it is so surprising that you are so eager to cast dispersions on her.
[FairfieldLife] Re: McCain Campaign Mngr Rick Davis on Smearing your Opponent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The premise of any smear campaign rests on a central truth of politics: Most of us will vote for a candidate we like and respect, even if we don't agree with him on every issue. But if you can cripple a voter's basic trust in a candidate, you can probably turn his vote. The idea is to find some piece of personal information that is tawdry enough to raise doubts, repelling a candidate's natural supporters. [...] Fortunately for the McCain campaign, there is public information about Barky that can be used against him. It's not necessary, however, for a smear to be true to be effective. Fortunately for the McCain campaign, there is stuff about Barky that can be used against him that is true. The most effective smears are based on a kernel of truth and applied in a way that exploits a candidate's political weakness. Fortunately for the McCain campaign, there is information about Barky that are not just kernels but whole cobs. Rebutting tawdry attacks focuses public attention on them, and prevents the campaign from talking issues. ~~ McCain campaign manager Rick Davis Boston Globe: http://tinyurl.com/53pjdo
[FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960
http://www.boingboing.net/200810011126.jpg Read stunned viewer comments: http://lpcoverlover.com/2008/09/28/god-have-mercy/
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[FairfieldLife] I confess -- I graduated from U of Calif and there were radicals there. Ban Me!
I assume you are satirizing the loony logic of some of our other astute posters here. Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Does this imply that all graduate of U of I should be banned from being president because of the Ayers connections? You went to an University whose name sake, president and chief scientists are nuts -- or at least say very nutty things. And the goofiest thing -- you flew everyday at this so called university. Should people who deal with you on insurance matters be told the truth about you! I went to the University of California. Angela Davis taught there. Herbert Marcuse taught there. both avowed Communists and radicals. Eldridge Cleaver, Tim Leary, Abbie Hoffman, Tom Hayden, Jerry Rubin all spoke there. Students spoke at rally's and advocated open revolution. It was the hotbed and leading wave of student and natioanl protests, People took drugs there. Martin Luther King spoke there and he advocated strong resistance against the government. Heck, Ronald Reagan was governor of an head of the Board of Regents when I was there -- when no attacking we students from his helicopters filled with tear gas -- and apparently he caused the meltdown of the US economy. Bobby and Jack Kennedy spoke there -- and they palled around with mobsters, and started the (serious part of) the war in Vietnam -- which became an immoral and political/economic disaster. Should I and all other graduates of UC be banned from being president because of the Davis/Marcuse/Revolutionaries/Drug/Reagan/mobster/Kennedy connection? (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of us for our connections to Peter?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least someone in this campaign has some balls. This to me is one of the main reasons this man cannot be president...and the ties to William Ayers run deep. Talk about vetting. Who the hell vetted Obama during the primaries about this? What I'd like to know is: how many Americans are actually aware of the William Ayers connection? Is it a large or small percentage? And of those that know about it, how many will NOT vote for Obama because of it? If it's a large percentage, you can bet that a whole lotta money will be spent informing the public of the connection. And please don't retort with: Oh, having a connection with William Ayers is something that mainstream people in Chicago have been doing for years; why Mayor Daley has worked with Ayers. Well, two wrongs don't make a right. And, besides, Barky is supposed to be different; he's supposed to be change we can believe it...a leader who doesn't do things just because everyone else in the crowd is doing it. If Barky is just going to be one more run-of-the-mill politicians, why do we need him? What we need is a REAL leader; someone who would have had the courage and fortitude to say: I don't care how many of my fellow Chicago politicians approve of and work with this self- admitted terrorist, I won't have anything to do with him. But, no, Barky is NOT a unique thinker, he is NOT someone who will go AGAINST the crowd; he is a go-with-the-flow kind of guy who will, obviously, give in to peer-group pressure. This is not a leader; this is a follower. We need a leader as president. As Palin says: This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America. Barky is, simply, unacceptable to be president. --- Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists Oct 4 03:32 PM US/Eastern By JIM KUHNHENN Associated Press Writer 'America Needs to Know This' ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) - Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin on Saturday accused Democrat Barack Obama of palling around with terrorists because of his association with a former 1960s radical, stepping up the campaign's effort to portray Obama as unacceptable to American voters. Palin's reference was to Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the group the Weather Underground. Its members took credit for bombings, including nonfatal explosions at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol, during the tumultuous Vietnam War era four decades ago. Obama, who was a child when the group was active, served on a charity board with Ayers several years ago and has denounced his radical views and activities. The Republican campaign, falling behind Obama in polls, plans to make attacks on Obama's character a centerpiece of presidential candidate John McCain's message with a month remaining before Election Day. Palin told a group of donors at a private airport, Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960
Those people don't get it - the mock-up of that album cover was originally created (not very famously any more i guess) as a joke. That's actually an aspiring twenty-three year old comedian named Allen Konigsberg (aka Woody Allen) on the right. The other two in the picture were secretaries in the Brill Building where Allen's agent at the time had his office. As I'm sure Bill Maher would tell you, he's not the originator of this kind of humor! --- On Sat, 10/4/08, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:02 PM http://www.boingboi ng.net/200810011 126.jpg Read stunned viewer comments: http://lpcoverlover .com/2008/ 09/28/god- have-mercy/
[FairfieldLife] Amma's US tour dates
http://www.amritapuri.org/yatra/ Below are the tentative dates of USA yatra, they may be subjected to change San Ramon, CA Nov 23 to 25: Public Programs Nov 26 to 28: San Ramon Retreat Michigan Nov 30 eve and Dec 1: Public Programs Dec 2 - 4 : Michigan Retreat Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of getting their facts wrong in the debate. Those fact-checks comparing Biden to Palin in the debate, are more like comparing the gravitous weight of the Obama mistake that he had been married 16 years, not 15, compared to McCain's consitent lies about his own voting record, and stinging character assinations of Obama. They are of whole a different order of fact discrepancy OffWorld Here's their full fact check on the debate: http://tinyurl.com/4fpela http://tinyurl.com/4fpela --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , new.morning no_reply@ wrote: But whats Truth got to do with it? Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. Speaking right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently lying to the American people and world. With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized. And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so clear he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all. It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can be (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what handlers have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a cooked-up lies from sanity and truth? (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I held their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing and cute. Except when she hit my shoes. ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: [snip] I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned the gaffe of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media treatment of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.) My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New York in 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the city where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on radio and TV to make speeches about it. Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp is swallowing it hook line a sinker. Looks like Biden was right. OffWorld Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what could pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the most limited sense of both words. They were one-inch screens and the whole enterprise was of an experimental nature. And the broadcasts were local, not state-wide. There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929. However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has been making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of getting their facts wrong in the debate. Here's their full fact check on the debate: http://tinyurl.com/4fpela A lot of the fact misstatements are due to ineadequate time to explain context and the fuller issues. Short cut statments need to be made in 90 seconds. I didn't hear anything from Biden that was applaulling or which could not have been clarified with more time. I did from palin. She made BOLD FACED lies. Winking and smiling and darn tootin it up as she did so. He is less scrupulous than a used car salesman in a navy town when the ship is in. 1) She repeated said Obama would raise taxes on regular people, the middle class. Thats a bold, bald-faced lie if you define middle class as making under 250k a year. (I know MCain defines it as making less than 5 mil -- but that speaks for itself. Obama proposes a tax cut for those making under $125 k. She was lying through her teeth -- but maybe its ok -- she winked. (which is NOT blinking mind you) 2) She said McCain would lower taxes for everyone in the audience. He is not lowering their marginal tax rate for personal income -- which her words imply. He does propose lowering business taxes and capital gains / dividends. That is NOT what her statement said or implied. (Actually, I am for a subset of that -- to eliminate double taxation. Tax income once -- either a business tax or dividend tax; and income or capital gains made from saved income -- but not both.) 3) Energy policy -- some bold faced lies about the obama energy plan -- and the merits of the mcCain plan. 4) Having a time table for Iraq is the white flag of surrender -- I guess Bush and the president of Iraq are raising the white flag of surrender then. There were more. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: But whats Truth got to do with it? Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. Speaking right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently lying to the American people and world. With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well-prized. And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so clear he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all. It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can be (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what handlers have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a cooked-up lies from sanity and truth? (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I held their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing and cute. Except when she hit my shoes. ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: [snip] I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned the gaffe of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media treatment of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.) My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New York in 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the city where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on radio and TV to make speeches about it. Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp is swallowing it hook line a sinker. Looks like Biden was right. OffWorld Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what could pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the most limited sense of both words. They were one-inch screens and the whole enterprise was of an experimental nature. And the broadcasts were local, not state-wide. There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929. However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has been making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
[FairfieldLife] LisaNova does the debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Yfeature=user Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma
[FairfieldLife] Re: LisaNova does the debate
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats a good one. IMO, the woman playing Palin was exceptional. Even better than Tina Fey -- who has been fantastic. With Tina, you know its Tina -- the woman on Utube -- she almost morphs into and channels Palin (in a satiric way). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Yfeature=user Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LisaNova does the debate
She has more Palin vidoes on her main page: http://www.youtube.com/user/LisaNova Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sat, 10/4/08, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: LisaNova does the debate To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:51 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats a good one. IMO, the woman playing Palin was exceptional. Even better than Tina Fey -- who has been fantastic. With Tina, you know its Tina -- the woman on Utube -- she almost morphs into and channels Palin (in a satiric way). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRCBsFaUz_Yfeature=user Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those people don't get it - the mock-up of that album cover was originally created (not very famously any more i guess) as a joke. That's actually an aspiring twenty-three year old comedian named Allen Konigsberg (aka Woody Allen) on the right. The other two in the picture were secretaries in the Brill Building where Allen's agent at the time had his office. As I'm sure Bill Maher would tell you, he's not the originator of this kind of humor! == ~Woody Allen's early humor enjoyed after all this time. I had the biggest laughs I can remember reading the comments and not recognizing the spoof. --- On Sat, 10/4/08, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hot Babes for Jesus circa 1960 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:02 PM http://www.boingboi ng.net/200810011 126.jpg Read stunned viewer comments: http://lpcoverlover .com/2008/ 09/28/god- have-mercy/
[FairfieldLife] Re: I confess -- I graduated from U of Calif and there were radicals there. Ban Me!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume you are satirizing the loony logic of some of our other astute posters here. Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Does this imply that all graduate of U of I should be banned from being president because of the Ayers connections? ...only the ones running for president. You went to an University whose name sake, president and chief scientists are nuts -- or at least say very nutty things. And the goofiest thing -- you flew everyday at this so called university. Should people who deal with you on insurance matters be told the truth about you! I would slink into the nearest hole if ever I was presented to my clients as such. But, again, I'm not running for president (would YOU vote for someone that went to MIU? I wouldn't!) As Groucho said: I wouldn't belong to a club that would have me as a member. I went to the University of California. Angela Davis taught there. Herbert Marcuse taught there. both avowed Communists and radicals. Did they commit acts of terrorism? I don't think Marcuse did. Davis is another story, although if memory serves me correctly, she was NOT convicted for the George Jackson thing, for which she was a fugitive (remember the Free Angela buttons?). Eldridge Cleaver, Tim Leary, Abbie Hoffman, Tom Hayden, Jerry Rubin all spoke there. Students spoke at rally's and advocated open revolution. It was the hotbed and leading wave of student and natioanl protests, People took drugs there. Martin Luther King spoke there and he advocated strong resistance against the government. MLK never advocated terrorism and you do insult his name by putting him in the same paragraph as the likes of Hayden and Hoffman. I leave out Rubin and Cleaver because they changed their thinking in later years. Leary? He was just a drug addled junkie. Heck, Ronald Reagan was governor of an head of the Board of Regents when I was there -- when no attacking we students from his helicopters filled with tear gas -- and apparently he caused the meltdown of the US economy. Bobby and Jack Kennedy spoke there -- and they palled around with mobsters, ...yes, and quite rightly have been admonished for it many times since it has come to light. and started the (serious part of) the war in Vietnam -- which became an immoral and political/economic disaster. Yes, and history has dealt with them for that. Gosh, new.morning, you're just giving reasons why people shouldn't vote for Obama. Whose side are you on? Should I and all other graduates of UC be banned from being president because of the Davis/Marcuse/Revolutionaries/Drug/Reagan/mobster/Kennedy connection? ...if you supported terrorism and terrorists then, yes, you should be. But I don't think any of the above were. Hayden and Hoffman neither blew up or advocated blowing things up as far as I know and they're the worst of the bunch. (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of us for our connections to Peter?) ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for president. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: At least someone in this campaign has some balls. This to me is one of the main reasons this man cannot be president...and the ties to William Ayers run deep. Talk about vetting. Who the hell vetted Obama during the primaries about this? What I'd like to know is: how many Americans are actually aware of the William Ayers connection? Is it a large or small percentage? And of those that know about it, how many will NOT vote for Obama because of it? If it's a large percentage, you can bet that a whole lotta money will be spent informing the public of the connection. And please don't retort with: Oh, having a connection with William Ayers is something that mainstream people in Chicago have been doing for years; why Mayor Daley has worked with Ayers. Well, two wrongs don't make a right. And, besides, Barky is supposed to be different; he's supposed to be change we can believe it...a leader who doesn't do things just because everyone else in the crowd is doing it. If Barky is just going to be one more run-of-the-mill politicians, why do we need him? What we need is a REAL leader; someone who would have had the courage and fortitude to say: I don't care how many of my fellow Chicago politicians approve of and work with this self- admitted terrorist, I won't have anything to do with him. But, no, Barky is NOT a unique thinker, he is NOT someone who will go
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire
. There were more. * ...as a test of clear thinking, the debate format was far less demanding than a face-to-face interview the kind Ms. Palin had with Katie Couric of CBS. Why? Because in a one-on-one conversation, you can't launch into a prepared speech on a topic unrelated to the question. Imagine this exchange based on the first question that the moderator, Gwen Ifill, gave Ms. Palin and Senator Joe Biden if it took place in casual conversation over coffee: LISA How about that bailout? Was this Washington at its best or at its worst? MICHAEL You know, I think a good barometer here, as we try to figure out has this been a good time or a bad time in America's economy, is go to a kid's soccer game on Saturday, and turn to any parent there on the sideline and ask them, How are you feeling about the economy? Lisa would flee. (This was, in fact, Ms. Palin's response.) In a conversation, you have to build your sentence phrase by phrase, monitoring the reaction of your listener, while aiming for relevance to the question. That's what led Ms. Palin into word salad with Ms. Couric. But when the questioner is 30 feet away on the floor and you're on a stage talking to a camera, which can't interrupt or make faces, you can reel off a script without embarrassment. The concerns raised by the Couric interviews that Ms. Palin memorizes talking points rather than grasping issues should not be allayed by her performance in the forgiving format of a debate. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/opinion/04pinker.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: According to factcheck.org, both Biden and Palin are guilty of getting their facts wrong in the debate. Those fact-checks comparing Biden to Palin in the debate, are more like comparing the gravitous weight of the Obama mistake that he had been married 16 years, not 15, compared to McCain's consitent lies about his own voting record, and stinging character assinations of Obama. They are of whole a different order of fact discrepancy OffWorld Then you need to compare Obama's record/stance on issues BEFORE he secured the nomination with his record/stance AFTER he secured the nomination. Obama's nose will be, oh, about 6 times longer than McCain's. And, please note, I am NO fan of McCain's and I feel very uncomfortable painting him in a good light as a result of these comparisons with Barky. They are both bums. I think we can agree, off-kilter, that the bailout is a horrible thing. Yet both McCain and Obama are for it. The difference is that Obama was much more eager for this government intervention than McCain was. As such, on this issue, Obama was MUCH MORE in line with Bush than McCain was. So who's more representative of Bush's third term? Here's their full fact check on the debate: http://tinyurl.com/4fpela http://tinyurl.com/4fpela --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , new.morning no_reply@ wrote: But whats Truth got to do with it? Sarah Palin set a new standard Thursday night. I was in awe. Speaking right into the camera, smiling, winking, and gosh darn it blatently lying to the American people and world. With her skills she could easily be a corporate PR heavy pulling in over a mil a year. Lying skills like that are rare and well- prized. And she is soo much better a liar than Bush. With Bush -- its so clear he is lying. Palin adds some bubbly sweet mystery to it all. It does bring up the moral question: is it a lie if you say it but don't know its a lie? I think that is the case with Sarah. She can be (and not act) so sincere because she is just puking out what handlers have fed her. I don't think she knows she's lying. Does that make it OK? Or worse -- that she is so uninformed she can't distinguish a cooked-up lies from sanity and truth? (But she pukes in such a cute way -- reminds me of some gf's as I held their head over he toilet bowl -- she on her knees. Very endearing and cute. Except when she hit my shoes. ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: [snip] I was talking to a friend today about debates and I mentioned the gaffe of Biden saying FDR on TV in 1929 (yes I was defending media treatment of Palin Shemp, as I often do --- up to a point.) My friend pointed out that FD Roosevelt was Governer of New York in 1929, and I found out that New York city did have regular TV broadcasting from 1928 on, and it is HIGHLY LIKELY that in the city where the stock exchange crashed that the Governere would go on radio and TV to make speeches about it. Sounds like Coulter is talking through her ass again, and Shemp is swallowing it hook line a sinker. Looks like Biden was right. OffWorld Yes, it's correct that there were regular broadcasts of what could pass as television in New York from 1928 on but only in the most limited sense of both words. They were one-inch screens and the whole enterprise was of an experimental nature. And the broadcasts were local, not state-wide. There is no evidence nor any documentation that FDR made any TV broadcasts (or radio broadcasts for that matter) in 1928 or 1929. However, an early kinetoscope of one of FDR's TV broadcasts has been making the rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvR3ilZAWHw
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Sarah Pants on Fire
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . There were more. * ...as a test of clear thinking, the debate format was far less demanding than a face-to-face interview the kind Ms. Palin had with Katie Couric of CBS. Why? Because in a one-on-one conversation, you can't launch into a prepared speech on a topic unrelated to the question. Gosh, the KING of prepared only-speak-from-the-teleprompter speakers is Barack Obama and he has NEVER been exposed to the kind of Gotcha! journalism that Palin was exposed to by both Couric and Gibson. Obama was interviewed by O'Reilly who did NOT play Gotcha! journalism with him...but in hindsight he should have. Who else beside O'Reilly did Barack get interviewed with that can be said to be hostile to him? Can you name them? If so, did they give him the kind of What is the speed velocity of a hummingbird's wings questions that Palin got? Anytime Obama is confronted with off-the-cuff questions he hems and haws and stumbles and mumbles TEN TIMES worse than anything Palin has done. But everyone in the media treats him with kid gloves. What a big, fat, fucking baby. Wah-wah-wah. Imagine this exchange based on the first question that the moderator, Gwen Ifill, gave Ms. Palin and Senator Joe Biden if it took place in casual conversation over coffee: LISA How about that bailout? Was this Washington at its best or at its worst? MICHAEL You know, I think a good barometer here, as we try to figure out has this been a good time or a bad time in America's economy, is go to a kid's soccer game on Saturday, and turn to any parent there on the sideline and ask them, How are you feeling about the economy? Lisa would flee. (This was, in fact, Ms. Palin's response.) In a conversation, you have to build your sentence phrase by phrase, monitoring the reaction of your listener, while aiming for relevance to the question. That's what led Ms. Palin into word salad with Ms. Couric. But when the questioner is 30 feet away on the floor and you're on a stage talking to a camera, which can't interrupt or make faces, you can reel off a script without embarrassment. The concerns raised by the Couric interviews that Ms. Palin memorizes talking points rather than grasping issues should not be allayed by her performance in the forgiving format of a debate. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/opinion/04pinker.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 1) Total federal (public) debt 2) Foreign holding of federal debt And what % of federal debt per capita is OK? The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too much to bear for any country. Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a country with a billion people? Some economists like to play the numbers game by taking ratios for analyses. For my taste, a debt is a debt no matter how you take it. The ideal situation is to have zero debt. There should be a goal to at least reduce the debt by half in about 25 years. Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy? Once that's reached, there should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another half. By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant. So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, everything else being equal than one with some debt? Ideally, yes. But in the real world one has to borrow money to pay for big ticket items--those that are essential. Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely collapse. You get big Palin points for skirting the question: What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 1) Total federal (public) debt 2) Foreign holding of federal debt I proposed to cut the national debt in half at first to relieve the debt burden. You can figure out the ratio to around 30 percent or so. Once that goal is reached, the debt ratio can be reduced to 15 percent. The idea is to reduce the excessive debt that the US has now. The ideal is zero debt. IMO, the US was able to function without any debt in its past economic history. Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be instructive to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an appropriate level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no federal debt. Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this should be done in all upfront cash? Personally, I would prefer NOT to have any debt. If you don't have the money to buy a house, you can borrow the money. But you should make sure that you can pay for the mortgage payments. It's common sense. Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or better than reducing debt, during a recession? At the national level, the principles become more complicated. The government has the responsibility to stimulate the economy. This was done in the past by work projects, such as those made during the Great Depression Era. As such, it was necessary to incur debt to stimulate the economy. Currently, the situation is similar. However, the indebtedness is made upfront, before the entire financial institutions collapse. So, in short, I am in favor of the bailout plan that was passed by Congress. Nonetheless, there should be an overall goal to reduce the national debt sometime in the near future. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today and the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA national debt. Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently forget to address this question. Why? Because it's a growing cancer that cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes. President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped reduce the national debt--but not by much. In his quest to be elected, President Bush promised more tax cuts which resulted in more deficit spending and eventual increase to the national debt. Someone has to deliver the message to the American people that the party is over. We have to face this problem now in order to eliminate the problem within this generation or the next. But who is brave enough to speak such words to the people?
[FairfieldLife] Palin Gush - Rich Lowry So lonely. So very lonely
Dear Penthouse . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phqYQS5NO0s
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beyond the observable universe...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hundreds of galaxy clusters are flowing toward the same spot in the sky beyond the observable universe, a University of Hawaii astronomer and NASA team members have discovered. http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d Richard Hugo pointed this out earlier this week. Nonetheless, it is interesting to note what the Rig Veda has sung about the universe, as interpreted by an Indian author a few years ago. Supposedly, the universe is expanding and is rotating at a certain axis. So, as we see galaxies spin, so does the entire universe. This principle could account for the anomalies that the astronomers have found.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The USA National Debt-- An Unaddressed Question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 1) Total federal (public) debt 2) Foreign holding of federal debt And what % of federal debt per capita is OK? The national debt is now about 13 trillion dollars, which is too much to bear for any country. Really? -- what about a country with a GDP of 500 trillion? Or a country with a billion people? Some economists like to play the numbers game by taking ratios for analyses. Holy shit. you are out palining Paling. My hats off to you. yea I mean like all ratios in economics are games. meant to decieve and not clarify, You are SO right on. How did you figure out this conspiracy against hard workin americans perpetrated by economists? You are one smart brainiac! For my taste, debt is a debt no matter how you take it. The ideal situation is to have zero debt. Welcome to the caveman economy. Can't wait to har your grand theories on savings and investments. There should be a goal to at least reduce the debt by half in about 25 years. Based on yur inner world guide to a sound economy? Once that's reached, there should be another initiative to reduce the debt burden to another half. By doing so, the US economy can remain robust and vibrant. So in follows that the economy will be strongest if there is no national debt? pay for all bridges, highways, schools, buildings, in cash. Pay as you go? That would produce a stronger economy, everything else being equal than one with some debt? Ideally, yes. But in the real world one has to borrow money to pay for big ticket items--those that are essential. Without doing so, the US economy and the dollar will surely collapse. You get big Palin points for skirting the question: What level of debt (%)to GDP do you feel is appropriate? 1) Total federal (public) debt 2) Foreign holding of federal debt I proposed to cut the national debt in half at first to relieve the debt burden. You can figure out the ratio to around 30 percent or so. Once that goal is reached, the debt ratio can be reduced to 15 percent. The idea is to reduce the excessive debt that the US has now. The ideal is zero debt. IMO, the US was able to function without any debt in its past economic history. Which is fine. Your points will go over big with hockey moms and Nascar dads everywhere. But you seem to be indicating that various debt levels as a % of GDP are all equally bad. It might be instructive to think about the questions and ponderif some levels of debt, at an appropriate level of GDP, might yield a more productive and robust economy, with higher income and wages than an economy with no federal debt. Do you favor no personal debt. Buy a house in all cash? And if building an apartment building to rent out homes for others -- this should be done in all upfront cash? Personally, I would prefer NOT to have any debt. If you don't have the money to buy a house, you can borrow the money. But you should make sure that you can pay for the mortgage payments. It's common sense. Another question (which of course you don't need to answer -- but might be instructive if you try): is going into (more) debt ok or better than reducing debt, during a recession? At the national level, the principles become more complicated. The government has the responsibility to stimulate the economy. This was done in the past by work projects, such as those made during the Great Depression Era. As such, it was necessary to incur debt to stimulate the economy. Currently, the situation is similar. However, the indebtedness is made upfront, before the entire financial institutions collapse. So, in short, I am in favor of the bailout plan that was passed by Congress. Nonetheless, there should be an overall goal to reduce the national debt sometime in the near future. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: It's obvious to everyone that the presidential candidates today and the presidents of the past have failed to eliminate the USA national debt. Both of the GOP and Democratic candidates conveniently forget to address this question. Why? Because it's a growing cancer that cannot be cured by campaign promises of lowering taxes. President Clinton came close to solving the debt issue when his administration actually realized a budget surplus which helped reduce the
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'What are you-when your not having thoughts?'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pure energy and intelligence. (Hopefully) _say it ain't so... The results of the tests at the Giant Collider in Switzerland should confirm this idea soon. If we are pure energy and intelligence, then we are all interconnected to the entire cosmos at any given time. This could be one of the explanations why the vedic literature has mentioned of ancient rishis who were able to travel to other planets or worlds through their minds alone, without the benefit of space ships.
[FairfieldLife] Peter Fuckin Stuphen for President
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of us for our connections to Peter?) ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for president. I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign for 2012. He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally down. Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis -- still ongoing since 2008? A: More fucking. Q More fucking what? A: More fucking. Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw? A: I never withdraw prematurely. Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis: A: Seniors should fuck more. Q: And the education crisis: A: Students should fuck more. Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking? A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global Fucking, Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16 will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump up the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. My platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies. Q: How can the fucking money be spent? A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these nationalized fucking businesses. Q: Is it a big fucking budget? A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked. Q: Isn't that what you are advocating? A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things. Q After you win the election what will you do? A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Fuckin Stuphen for President
Fucking hilarious, new. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of us for our connections to Peter?) ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for president. I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign for 2012. He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally down. Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis -- still ongoing since 2008? A: More fucking. Q More fucking what? A: More fucking. Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw? A: I never withdraw prematurely. Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis: A: Seniors should fuck more. Q: And the education crisis: A: Students should fuck more. Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking? A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global Fucking, Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16 will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump up the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. My platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies. Q: How can the fucking money be spent? A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these nationalized fucking businesses. Q: Is it a big fucking budget? A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked. Q: Isn't that what you are advocating? A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things. Q After you win the election what will you do? A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
[FairfieldLife] Peter's tour bus and lawn sign
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of us for our connections to Peter?) ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for president. I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign for 2012. He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally down. Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis -- still ongoing since 2008? A: More fucking. Q More fucking what? A: More fucking. Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw? A: I never withdraw prematurely. Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis: A: Seniors should fuck more. Q: And the education crisis: A: Students should fuck more. Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking? A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global Fucking, Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16 will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump up the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. My platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies. Q: How can the fucking money be spent? A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these nationalized fucking businesses. Q: Is it a big fucking budget? A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked. Q: Isn't that what you are advocating? A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things. Q After you win the election what will you do? A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
[FairfieldLife] Peter's campaign poster
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of us for our connections to Peter?) ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for president. I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign for 2012. He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally down. Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis -- still ongoing since 2008? A: More fucking. Q More fucking what? A: More fucking. Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw? A: I never withdraw prematurely. Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis: A: Seniors should fuck more. Q: And the education crisis: A: Students should fuck more. Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking? A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global Fucking, Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16 will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump up the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. My platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies. Q: How can the fucking money be spent? A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these nationalized fucking businesses. Q: Is it a big fucking budget? A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked. Q: Isn't that what you are advocating? A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things. Q After you win the election what will you do? A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
[FairfieldLife] Peter's campaign mail-out thanking supporters for contributions
http://www.16sparrows.com/shop/fuck-thanks.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of us for our connections to Peter?) ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for president. I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign for 2012. He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally down. Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis -- still ongoing since 2008? A: More fucking. Q More fucking what? A: More fucking. Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw? A: I never withdraw prematurely. Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis: A: Seniors should fuck more. Q: And the education crisis: A: Students should fuck more. Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking? A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global Fucking, Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16 will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump up the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. My platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies. Q: How can the fucking money be spent? A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these nationalized fucking businesses. Q: Is it a big fucking budget? A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked. Q: Isn't that what you are advocating? A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things. Q After you win the election what will you do? A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
[FairfieldLife] Peter's supporter's rally for him
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.16sparrows.com/shop/fuck-thanks.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of us for our connections to Peter?) ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for president. I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign for 2012. He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally down. Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis -- still ongoing since 2008? A: More fucking. Q More fucking what? A: More fucking. Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw? A: I never withdraw prematurely. Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis: A: Seniors should fuck more. Q: And the education crisis: A: Students should fuck more. Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking? A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global Fucking, Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16 will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump up the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. My platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies. Q: How can the fucking money be spent? A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these nationalized fucking businesses. Q: Is it a big fucking budget? A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked. Q: Isn't that what you are advocating? A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things. Q After you win the election what will you do? A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
[FairfieldLife] Peter gets the support of the military
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: http://www.16sparrows.com/shop/fuck-thanks.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: (And Peter, like Marcuse, advocated fucking as a solution to society's problems. He must have read Marcuse. You traded posts with Peter and were associated with him for years on FFL. Clearly we should ban Peter from FLL for such radical connections, but then should we ban all of us for our connections to Peter?) ...the fucking solution would be a reason to vote FOR Peter for president. I think that is a winning idea. We have a grass routs org here on FFL. We can set up regional offices tomorrow. And start the campaign for 2012. He won't need any coaching. He has all the fucking answers totally down. Q: Dr S, what is the solution to the continuing economic crisis -- still ongoing since 2008? A: More fucking. Q More fucking what? A: More fucking. Q: Moving on to the next question. We have been bogged down in Irag for almost 10 years now. What are your plans for withdraw? A: I never withdraw prematurely. Q: um ok, What about the Social Security crisis: A: Seniors should fuck more. Q: And the education crisis: A: Students should fuck more. Q: And how do you plan to pay for all of this fucking? A: Fucking money. My Secretary of Internal Affairs and Global Fucking, Mr Curtis Blues, is drawing up a budget. Every man and woman over 16 will get a fucking stimulus check to jump-start and vigorously pump up the economy thrusting us into a new age of prosperity an pleasure. My platform is the Politics of Pleasure. And in Celebration of that platform -- new platform shoes for all the ladies. Q: How can the fucking money be spent? A: Under the Fucking Emergency Act of 2012, we are nationalizing all escort services, strip clubs, and internet porn sites. The fucking money we give the fucking people will be accepted at all of these nationalized fucking businesses. Q: Is it a big fucking budget? A: Without passing this budget we are all fucked. Q: Isn't that what you are advocating? A: Getting fucked, and getting Fucked are two different things. Q After you win the election what will you do? A: Eat a chicken salad sandwich.
[FairfieldLife] My Campaign
Dear Americans, Apparently in my absence tonight, while I was off at a drive-in movie with my lovely wife, a spontaneous group of my devoted fans have formed an election committee. I am touched by this display of loyalty and affection and I do humbly accept this nomination to be the next president of the United States of America. God bless America and goodnight! And don't forget your chicken sandwich!
Re: [FairfieldLife] My Campaign
Can you count on the Cuban vote? Love will swallow you, eat you up completely until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] My Campaign To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 11:14 PM Dear Americans, Apparently in my absence tonight, while I was off at a drive-in movie with my lovely wife, a spontaneous group of my devoted fans have formed an election committee. I am touched by this display of loyalty and affection and I do humbly accept this nomination to be the next president of the United States of America. God bless America and goodnight! And don't forget your chicken sandwich! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] McCain's Reputation Revealed...
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print 'nuff said. L.
[FairfieldLife] Bevan's Wacky World
I was wondering when the TMO's internal logic and bizarre MMY-centric rationalizations would cough up a phlegmy furball like this: Dear Everyone, Dr Bevan Morris comments on the current economic situation in the US in light of Maharishi's programmes by Global Good News staff writer Global Good News www.globalgoodnews.com 25 September 2008 Speaking on 24 September Maharishi Global Family Chat, Dr Bevan Morris, Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace, described his recent visit to Maharishi Vedic City, in Iowa, USA, and commented on the current economic and political situations in the United States. Dr Morris had visited Maharishi University of Management and Maharishi Vedic City, where over 900 Vedic Pandits are currently part of the Invincible America Assembly and also performing daily Yagyas for the creation of Invincible America and world peace. Dr Morris said it is a very difficult place to leave 'due to the saturated bliss, the feeling of everything flowing in Totality there'. Dr Morris also spoke about the remarkable transformation that has taken place at 70 Broad Street in New York City, the new home of the Global Financial Capital of New York, which has been completely reconstructed internally and redesigned to be a place where the top leaders in any field will be welcomed and feel completely comfortable. So many people have given so much detailed attention and put in so much hard work to bring the building to completion; Dr Morris praised and appreciated all those individuals who have been involved. Dr Morris then gave his perspective on the current financial situation in the United States and how the Invincible America Assembly is transforming the fortune and destiny of the United States; together with the change in the financial markets and the government, and a group of the most influential and wealthiest executives, who have expressed interest in learning Transcendental Meditationall of this coming together at the same time Dr Morris felt was very significant. Dr Morris reminded everyone that the great investment banks would not previously invest in Maharishi Global Development projects because they said the projects were too risky, but now they are collapsing due to unwarranted risks that were taken. Dr Morris said that the current financial system, which he felt is 'upside down', is now being purified by the upsurge of coherence in the collective consciousness. That which he felt was completely wrong, the huge contrast between the great wealth and extreme poverty in the worldthe upside down nature of the economy and financesis now being set right, although we cannot foresee in what way this will unfold. Dr Morris felt it must be that all these areas have to be purified if we are to have a better world, and it was Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's intention that these transformations would be gradual, not happening so quickly that it would be destructive. Maharishi had said previously that it was not the money from the banks that will relieve the poverty in the world. It is the infinite potential of consciousness that has to be enlivened and that will relieve the poverty on every level. Dr Morris spoke about Maharishi's Poverty Removal Programme, the great economic development programme with the Global Development Currency, the Raam; through this programme, any government will be able to rebuild and develop the schools, the housing, the roads, the cities, and also clinics for Maharishi Ayur-Vedaall built according to Vedic principles of architecture, Maharishi Sthapatya Veda. Agriculture can also be transformed and developed through Maharishi Vedic Organic Agriculture, in which the unused lands of the poorer countries of the world are used to provide income and wealth through sales of organic produce to other countries. In every area of life transformation is neededin health, agriculture, education, etcand now Maharishi's programmes are bringing all these areas of life to be founded on the reality of life, the unbounded level of consciousness, the Unified Field of Natural Law, 'completely full of bliss and intelligenceand that is the true wealth of everybody', Dr Morris said. © Copyright 2008 Global Good News®