date:20100603

Let me try this differently. I know you won't agree, we rarely do, but my 
experience is that the left uses empathy as a tool, a power tool, to impose a 
guilt trip on the public for the purpose of redistribution of wealth. I also 
believe these students, in the study,  are on to the *trip* and reject it, as I 
did when I was in my twenties and thus must be labeled as cruel , 
heartless,greedy,sociopaths, yada yada yada, a demonization process. A process 
the Soviet Union took to extremes to control dissidents. If you don't believe 
in their system , there must be something wrong with you and you need to be 
institutionalized and on meds till you're better, eliminating competing ideas. 
My rant, about freedom and the constitution, was simply that. People need to be 
free to rise and fall, succeed or fail. Free markets are like the process of 
evolution, clearing out old useless ideas and allowing new ones to take hold 
and grow so individuals and the economy can
 prosper.

From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 1:22:46 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study: Today's students have less empathy

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:

 Judy, let me clarify this. I'm not against empathy, just
 those that wear it on their sleeves for the whole world to
 see and *admire*, especially for political purposes.I
 would call that *false empathy* and when I see it or hear
 it, it makes me want to vomit.

I can understand that. Don't know how you can always tell
for sure whether it's true or false, though.

And boy, that didn't seem like what you were objecting to
to start with! What does that have to do with FREEDOM and
the Constitution and all the other stuff you were spouting?

 Â Kind of reminds me of Christ reading the riot act to the
 Pharisees in the Temple, calling them vipers and brooder
 vipers, whited sepulchers, all clean and white outside,
 but full of dead men's bones and corruption inside,
 standing in the doorway to heaven , neither going in nor
 allowing others to enter. 

That's fine for hypocrisy-in-general, but in this case
one of the things he was railing at them for was *lack*
of empathy:

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted
the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and
faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the
other undone.

Man, I love that whole rant. I think every politician and
CEO should be required to stand in front of the mirror
every morning and deliver it to themselves, loudly, with
gestures (in the King James version, please).

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note



 That's the bane of FFL -- you have to be a 
 fool to post anything that your heart is 
 (perhaps temporarily yes) resonating with...

Just shut up about Dan and let him rest in 
peace.

You didn't have any sympathy for the families 
of the eleven who were killed trying to drill 
for oil so you could get to the grocery store. 

You already showed your face when I tried to 
take up for all the American soldiers killed 
in Iraq and Afghanistan protecting your rights 
as a U.S. citizen. So, go back to BATGP where
you belong. You suck as a TM Teacher!


Duveyoung:
 For you folks who think that Dan's suicide 
 was crazy nuts...

snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note



Would it be too much to ask you to learn 
how to format a post, Vaj? All you have
to do is learn how to hit the enter key 
at the end of each paragraph.

Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
 
 On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
 
  For you folks who think that Dan's suicide was crazy nuts and are  
  rather high strung about how New Agers are waxing on about Dan, I'm  
  asking if you see that that's a religious position. Meaning that  
  you're displaying values which, like religious values, are matters  
  of faith much more than fact.
 
 Actually from a practical perspective, human life is precious,  
 therefore it's not something to be wasted. You're also interrelated  
 to other beings who, even if they don't depend on you financially,  
 depend upon you emotionally at some heart level.
 
 
  I have, say, three, four, five and who knows how many more theories  
  about what happens after death, and given your alarm about Dan, the  
  atmosphere for discussion here is seriously dampened. Edification  
  here? Sure
 
  Why would anyone try to get closure here with some sort of framing  
  about Dan that they can abide with? No matter the theory, someone  
  here is sure to stompsmashshit on it. This is not a healing place  
  now is it?
 
 Suicide is generally not a healing act. The exception of course being  
 people in terrible pain and/or a terminal illness. I do not believe  
 either of these apply to Daniel.
 
 
  That's the bane of FFL -- you have to be a fool to post anything  
  that your heart is (perhaps temporarily yes) resonating with.
 
 Or maybe you're just having a having a hard time after being sucked  
 in by another TM Org poseur? After all, people like Dan would find  
 their perfect target in old believers who are still clinging on to  
 some desperate hope that some TMer out there really did benefit. TM  
 works!  I was enlightened just like Marshy said, with a couple  
 flourishes thrown in from some old Ramana I read!
 
 Then when the rug is pulled out from that idea--unless you  
 rationalize suicide somehow as a selfless or beneficial act--you're  
 left to either accept the grim reality of unenligthenment, or try to  
 rationalize it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Israelis in India

Must have been an Adam Sandler production!





From: parsleysage meowthirt...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 5:51:08 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Israelis in India

  
Hilariious...

more funny please

mirth is good...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5-gHmNhC2Yfeature=player_embedded

[FairfieldLife] President Obama Honors Paul McCartney

2010-06-03 Thread do.rflex



The President hails Paul McCartney's contribution to popular music and song 
during a ceremony to present the singer with the Library of Congress Gershwin 
Prize.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuPXpKPh4Uw

Re: [FairfieldLife] BP Managers are Incompetent

How about incompetent governments? Humans aren't bright enough to run such 
large organizations anyway. Let market forces do it!

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 12:36:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] BP Managers are Incompetent

John wrote:
 BP's failure to contain the oil spill discloses its gross negligence in 
 managing the oil drilling operations. The company should have installed 
 safety measures to prevent fires and explosions. In the event of explosions, 
 the company should have had a multifaceted contingency plan in place to 
 contain possible disasters.

 As it is now, the company clearly shows it does not have any idea how to fix 
 this disaster. The company officials should be indicted for criminal and 
 gross negligence, as well as being fined for the damage it has caused in the 
 coastal regions of the states affected.

Well BP probably had a think tank do a cost vs benefit analysis of being 
prepared for these kinds of catastrophes and decided to not to spend on 
prevention. This happens way too much. Wasn't it Ford that decided 
human lives weren't worth the effort of making the Pinto safer? See 
where the public stands in the blind eyes of the greedy? BP should be 
seized and broken up. Then we should start looking for other 
incompetent companies. Humans aren't bright enough to run such large 
organizations anyway.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Game Show

2010-06-03 Thread Hugo



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 snip
  That people can talk to the 
  dead (and get a reply) is one of my hot buttons, I've seen 
  too many obviously fraudulent mediums giving what I see as
  a cynical and false hope to the recently bereaved to give 
  them any house room, it's basically *so* desperately uncon-
  vincing that the only mechanism I can see for their continued
  success is that people really need something to hold onto.
  It can't be a healthy way to grieve.
 
 FWIW, I don't think any of them are talking to dead
 people. On the other hand, I don't think all of them
 are frauds, either, although some surely are. (Or
 crazy, for that matter.)
 
 I think at least some of them are inadvertently 
 communicating with nonhuman discarnate entities of
 some sort, mischief-makers and/or entities who yearn
 to be a part of the material world.
 
 Somehow I don't think you'll find that an appealing
 alternative interpretation...


A most accurate prediction ;-)

I think there are both deliberate and unwitting frauds,
I've seen both, but it amounts to the same thing in the 
end. The unwitting frauds seem rather sad to me even 
though they are happy in their world which, at the end of
the day, is the most important thing.

I think I did a post about the baby whisperer once,
weird guy thought he could telepathically communicate with 
babies. Didn't matter that you could easily explain and
demonstrate what he was doing as cold reading the mother, 
he sincerly believes that he can talk with a pre-vocal 
3 month old and find out complex things about it's mother.
He took the James Randi challenge and failed, of course. 
Point is he believes it still and plays to packed halls all
over England, so others obviously believe it too. Is he a 
fraud? Or doesn't it matter because everyone's having a good
time?

I would be pissed off if it turned out I'd constructed
a worldview based on an easily disproveable bit of 
kiddology but was too blind to see it. That's just me, 
a lot of others get great comfort from it, consider life
after death a certainty and refuse to even engage in 
discussion with me about it. Which is a good time to lay 
off I find, funny how we can all be so similar and yet so
different. 

I think it all boils down to how rigorous you want to be 
in the search for truth. Mediums and psychics will tell
you they know things about the world that I can't agree 
with due to the obviously poor evidence. Same with religious
leaders. I can't abide certainty, especially when it all 
depends on someones say-so, and even more if they died
thousands of years ago and are thus part of an alien 
culture or, worse, are selling something.

Doesn't mean it *isn't* all true just that what they've 
got so far depends more on our need for it than, say, ideas
like Darwinism that appear to be true no matter what we 
think about it, the evidence points one way whereas life 
after death appears to me to be an unnecessary add-on to 
stave off the horror of non-being. And that's one everyone 
would love to be wrong about I'm sure. Shame there's only 
one way to find out

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note

2010-06-03 Thread Duveyoung

Vaj,

You could not have read my conversation with Dan and come to the conclusions 
below.  In no way, at no time, did I validate his assertions of enlightenment, 
in no way am I hoping for some miracle TM story to validate my decades of 
involvement, and in no way have I tried to suggest that Dan's suicide didn't 
have tremendously negative impacts on dozens of lives.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 
 On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
 
  For you folks who think that Dan's suicide was crazy nuts and are  
  rather high strung about how New Agers are waxing on about Dan, I'm  
  asking if you see that that's a religious position. Meaning that  
  you're displaying values which, like religious values, are matters  
  of faith much more than fact.
 
 Actually from a practical perspective, human life is precious,  
 therefore it's not something to be wasted. You're also interrelated  
 to other beings who, even if they don't depend on you financially,  
 depend upon you emotionally at some heart level.
 
 
  I have, say, three, four, five and who knows how many more theories  
  about what happens after death, and given your alarm about Dan, the  
  atmosphere for discussion here is seriously dampened. Edification  
  here? Sure
 
  Why would anyone try to get closure here with some sort of framing  
  about Dan that they can abide with? No matter the theory, someone  
  here is sure to stompsmashshit on it. This is not a healing place  
  now is it?
 
 Suicide is generally not a healing act. The exception of course being  
 people in terrible pain and/or a terminal illness. I do not believe  
 either of these apply to Daniel.
 
 
  That's the bane of FFL -- you have to be a fool to post anything  
  that your heart is (perhaps temporarily yes) resonating with.
 
 Or maybe you're just having a having a hard time after being sucked  
 in by another TM Org poseur? After all, people like Dan would find  
 their perfect target in old believers who are still clinging on to  
 some desperate hope that some TMer out there really did benefit. TM  
 works!  I was enlightened just like Marshy said, with a couple  
 flourishes thrown in from some old Ramana I read!
 
 Then when the rug is pulled out from that idea--unless you  
 rationalize suicide somehow as a selfless or beneficial act--you're  
 left to either accept the grim reality of unenligthenment, or try to  
 rationalize it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note

2010-06-03 Thread Alex Stanley

Edg, esoteric New Age woo-woo played a critical role in Dan's reason for 
committing suicide. In that light, I think it's understandable that those ideas 
receive their share of criticism for their role in this tragedy.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 Vaj,
 
 You could not have read my conversation with Dan and come to the conclusions 
 below.  In no way, at no time, did I validate his assertions of 
 enlightenment, in no way am I hoping for some miracle TM story to validate my 
 decades of involvement, and in no way have I tried to suggest that Dan's 
 suicide didn't have tremendously negative impacts on dozens of lives.
 
 Edg
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  
  On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
  
   For you folks who think that Dan's suicide was crazy nuts and are  
   rather high strung about how New Agers are waxing on about Dan, I'm  
   asking if you see that that's a religious position. Meaning that  
   you're displaying values which, like religious values, are matters  
   of faith much more than fact.
  
  Actually from a practical perspective, human life is precious,  
  therefore it's not something to be wasted. You're also interrelated  
  to other beings who, even if they don't depend on you financially,  
  depend upon you emotionally at some heart level.
  
  
   I have, say, three, four, five and who knows how many more theories  
   about what happens after death, and given your alarm about Dan, the  
   atmosphere for discussion here is seriously dampened. Edification  
   here? Sure
  
   Why would anyone try to get closure here with some sort of framing  
   about Dan that they can abide with? No matter the theory, someone  
   here is sure to stompsmashshit on it. This is not a healing place  
   now is it?
  
  Suicide is generally not a healing act. The exception of course being  
  people in terrible pain and/or a terminal illness. I do not believe  
  either of these apply to Daniel.
  
  
   That's the bane of FFL -- you have to be a fool to post anything  
   that your heart is (perhaps temporarily yes) resonating with.
  
  Or maybe you're just having a having a hard time after being sucked  
  in by another TM Org poseur? After all, people like Dan would find  
  their perfect target in old believers who are still clinging on to  
  some desperate hope that some TMer out there really did benefit. TM  
  works!  I was enlightened just like Marshy said, with a couple  
  flourishes thrown in from some old Ramana I read!
  
  Then when the rug is pulled out from that idea--unless you  
  rationalize suicide somehow as a selfless or beneficial act--you're  
  left to either accept the grim reality of unenligthenment, or try to  
  rationalize it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BP Managers are Incompetent

Not to worry Raunch, The Houston Chronicle is reporting today that Halliburton 
is moving operations to Mexico because of the ban and many , if not most, oil 
companies will follow. So, the Mexican government will be overseeing 
regulations on off shore drilling in the exact same body of water. Remember 
Ixtapa?




From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 8:06:39 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BP Managers are Incompetent

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Yup, Obama fails the acid test.but did he have to promise
  such appointees in order to become President so that he could
  do at least some good here and there?
 
 Not sure what your question is or whom you're quoting. I'm
 guessing you're asking whether he had to promise the oil
 industry to appoint a friendly Interior secretary so he
 could collect industry donations for his campaign. Yes?
 
 Don't know the answer, but it wouldn't surprise me if
 he did.
 
 On the other hand...if so, the unintended result of that
 convenient little quid pro quo may well end up derailing
 his presidency, such that whatever good he might have
 been able to do here and there will be significantly
 reduced.
 
 On the third hand, it's entirely possible the blowout 
 would have happened anyway, even if he had nominated
 someone who wasn't a shill for the industry's interests.
 Exactly what *specific* role an unreformed MMS played
 in the blowout isn't clear yet.


On one hand Obama says, ...we will continue the existing moratorium and 
suspend the issuance of new permits to drill new deepwater wells for six 
months. Yippee! BUT on the underhand, ...the president quietly allowed a 
three-week-old ban on drilling in shallow water to expire. So anything short 
of 500 feet it's Drill baby, drill. 

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/06/02/so-much-for-the-moratorium-feds-approve-shallow-water-drilling-in-gulf/

FINALLY! The White House approved Gov. Jindal's permit for sand berms to 
protect the wetlands, I fear too little too late.

The oil clean up efforts have been anemic. BP will clean up only the minimum 
amount they have to. Plus, they still insists on using Corexit to disperse the 
oil instead of using alternatives that COLLECT the oil. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFNOnI3M_1Mfeature=player_embedded

Gee, if they actually collected the oil instead of dispersing it, we might see 
how much oil leaked. The amount of oil leaked is evidence for damages in a law 
suit. The Clean Water Act allows citizens to sue BP. 
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jun2010/2010-06-01-091.html 

Boycott BP on Facebook now has 304,463 members, about 50,000 per day.

Song going viral on Youtube: Big Oilmance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQrN56fczgc

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note

2010-06-03 Thread Rick Archer

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Alex Stanley
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:40 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note

Edg, esoteric New Age woo-woo played a critical role in Dan's reason for
committing suicide. 
Maybe. Maybe it was a simple case of bi-polar disorder, suffered by a very
spiritual guy.
In that light, I think it's understandable that those ideas receive their
share of criticism for their role in this tragedy.
That too, but if the criticism is one-sided, closed to other possibilities,
then the critic isn't seeing the whole picture.

[FairfieldLife] Happiness May Come With Age, Study Says

2010-06-03 Thread do.rflex


Happiness May Come With Age, Study SaysBy NICHOLAS BAKALAR - May 31,
2010

It is inevitable. The muscles weaken. Hearing and vision fade. We
get  wrinkled and stooped. We can't run, or even walk, as fast as we
used to.  We have aches and pains in parts of our bodies we never even
noticed  before. We get old.

It sounds miserable, but apparently it is not. A large Gallup poll has 
found that by almost any measure, people get happier as they get older, 
and researchers are not sure why.
It could be that there are environmental changes, said Arthur
A.  Stone, the lead author of a new study  based on the survey
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/05/04/1003744107.abstract ,
or it could be psychological changes about  the way we view the
world, or it could even be biological  for example  brain chemistry
or endocrine changes.

The telephone survey, carried out in 2008, covered more than 340,000 
people nationwide, ages 18 to 85, asking various questions about age and
sex, current events, personal finances, health and other matters.

The survey also asked about global well-being by having each
person  rank overall life satisfaction on a 10-point scale, an
assessment many  people may make from time to time, if not in a strictly
formalized way.

Finally, there were six yes-or-no questions: Did you experience the 
following feelings during a large part of the day yesterday: enjoyment, 
happiness, stress, worry, anger, sadness. The answers, the researchers 
say, reveal hedonic well-being, a person's immediate
experience of  those psychological states, unencumbered by revised
memories or  subjective judgments that the query about general life
satisfaction  might have evoked.

The results, published online May 17 in the Proceedings of the National
Academy of  Sciences
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/p/pro\
ceedings_of_the_national_academy_of_sciences/index.html?inline=nyt-org
, were good news for old people, and for those who are  getting old. On
the global measure, people start out at age 18 feeling  pretty good
about themselves, and then, apparently, life begins to throw  curve
balls. They feel worse and worse until they hit 50. At that  point,
there is a sharp reversal, and people keep getting happier as  they age.
By the time they are 85, they are even more satisfied with  themselves
than they were at 18.

In measuring immediate well-being  yesterday's emotional state
 the  researchers found that stress declines from age 22 onward,
reaching its  lowest point at 85. Worry stays fairly steady until 50,
then sharply  drops off. Anger decreases steadily from 18 on, and
sadness rises to a  peak at 50, declines to 73, then rises slightly
again to 85.


Enjoyment  and happiness have similar curves: they both decrease
gradually until we  hit 50, rise steadily for the next 25 years, and
then decline very  slightly at the end, but they never again reach the
low point of our  early 50s.

Other experts were impressed with the work. Andrew J. Oswald, a 
professor of psychology
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthto\
pics/psychology_and_psychologists/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier  at
Warwick Business School in  England, who has published several studies
on human happiness, called  the findings important and, in some ways,
heartening. It's a very  encouraging fact that we can expect to
be happier in our early 80s than  we were in our 20s, he said.
And it's not being driven predominantly  by things that happen
in life. It's something very deep and quite human  that seems to be
driving this.

Dr. Stone, who is a professor of psychology at the State University of
New York at Stony Brook
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/s/sta\
te_university_of_new_york_at_stony_brook/index.html?inline=nyt-org ,
said  that the findings raised questions that needed more study.
These  results say there are distinctive patterns here, he
said, and it's  worth some research effort to try to figure out
what's going on. Why at  age 50 does something seem to start to
change?

The study was not designed to figure out which factors make people 
happy, and the poll's health questions were not specific enough to
draw  any conclusions about the effect of disease or disability on
happiness  in old age. But the researchers did look at four
possibilities: the sex  of the interviewee, whether the person had a
partner, whether there were  children at home and employment status.
These are four reasonable  candidates, Dr. Stone said,
but they don't make much difference.

For people under 50 who may sometimes feel gloomy, there may be 
consolation here. The view seems a bit bleak right now, but look at the 
bright side: you are getting old.


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/01/health/research/01happy.html?src=mere\
f=general

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Weird and charming stuff from cyberspace

2010-06-03 Thread gullible fool



 
I take it the suggestion was not made because you and Traci have mutual 
friends. Once in a while, I get a suggestion where there are no mutual friends, 
but most suggestions are ones with mutual friends. It look like the second tier 
of suggestions is those who share an interest. Like if I am in a bunch of Amma 
groups/pages, then Facebook sends suggestions of other Amma people.
 
In case you have not already come across the link below. :)
 
http://videos.apnicommunity.com/Video,Item,1211661717.html
 
Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love. 
 
- Amma  

--- On Thu, 6/3/10, TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:


From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Weird and charming stuff from cyberspace
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 3:22 AM











--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 Edg will love this. Facebook is trying to fix me up.
 
 Today in the pane that lists your Suggested Friends
 in its main News Feed window, my #1 Suggested Friend
 was Traci Lords, former porn star turned mainstream
 actress (sort of).
 
 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=705563104ref=pymk 
 
 My second suggested Friend was this babe:
 
 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100...000156387146ref=pymk

H. I obviously messed up the second link.
It should have been:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=10156387146ref=pymk 

Attractive woman, actually. Japanese, which I
have a profound weakness for. Traci Lords seems
to be married, and she's not exactly my type,
but a Japanese pole dancer? Whatever weird AI
runs the Suggested Friends thang on Facebook,
at least it's doing better than it did with the
plethora of Indian women it was trying to fix
me up with a few days ago.

Since I seem to be pissing my last posts of the week
away on cybertrivia (which you have to admit is
better than what some people piss them away on), 
here are a few other things that have caught my
eye recently.

First, a separated at birth set of photos comparing
Pope Benedict to the Dark Sith Lord Emperor:



Second, and continuing the poke the prudes theme, a little 
advice on homophobia from Gandalf:



And finally, a little compassionate advice on how to handle anger. 
Not quite as Buddhist as portrayed, but effective. Especially if
the angry person is a tad...uh...overweight and used to slinging
their weight around.  :-)




:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note

2010-06-03 Thread Vaj



On Jun 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Duveyoung wrote:


Vaj,

You could not have read my conversation with Dan and come to the  
conclusions below. In no way, at no time, did I validate his  
assertions of enlightenment, in no way am I hoping for some miracle  
TM story to validate my decades of involvement, and in no way have  
I tried to suggest that Dan's suicide didn't have tremendously  
negative impacts on dozens of lives.


Then I guess I don't understand why you would not expect people to  
criticize the New Age / Neo-advaita underpinnings of this?


I mean his Ex-GF is claiming to be in telepathic communication with  
him and others are telling post-mortem darshan stories!


The way people in FF (especially) spiritually rationalize this  
tragedy is indicative of the level of the New Age / Neo-advaita /  
Pseudo-advaita disease. So therefore it bears comment, much of it  
anti-New Age.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note

2010-06-03 Thread raunchydog

Edg, excellent post. I couldn't agree more. You can always count on the 
fanatical nihilists of FFLife to tromp on the tender feelings of people trying 
to find a way to heal, attacking with such fervor and certainty, it's as if 
they're promoting a cause in the name of religion...Atheism? Nihilists don't 
believe in healing, they believe in picking a scab. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 For you folks who think that Dan's suicide was crazy nuts and are rather high 
 strung about how New Agers are waxing on about Dan, I'm asking if you see 
 that that's a religious position.  Meaning that you're displaying values 
 which, like religious values, are matters of faith much more than fact.  
 
 I have, say, three, four, five and who knows how many more theories about 
 what happens after death, and given your alarm about Dan, the atmosphere for 
 discussion here is seriously dampened.  Edification here?  Sure
 
 Why would anyone try to get closure here with some sort of framing about Dan 
 that they can abide with?  No matter the theory, someone here is sure to 
 stompsmashshit on it.  This is not a healing place now is it?
 
 That's the bane of FFL -- you have to be a fool to post anything that your 
 heart is (perhaps temporarily yes) resonating with.
 
 This place is great at rending, and that's a service I've benefited often and 
 deeply from, because, yah, I gots delusions like the next guy, and one can 
 get rapidly sandpapered here, but this righteous anger about the 
 closure-memes of the New Agers seems tawdry -- like someone shouting out He 
 went to hell at Dan's funeral.  
 
 Given the black tragedies of the world, Dan's pales to ecru.  On the Earth we 
 have 60,000,000 people with IQs over 140 -- geniuses all -- yet Gaia is in 
 such deep despair.  Get it?  Figuring out Dan's why-whats would have been 
 figured if it could have been figured at all and figured thousands of years 
 ago and be yet seen being taught in hieroglyphics or live desert scrolls 
 whatever.
 
 This is a time for deep consideration, but such cannot happen if one's 
 explorations into this unknown are relentlessly scoffed at by FFL's dolts and 
 atheists and smarm lords.  (Pick yer slot!  If you're angry, choose dolt.)
 
 And don't you see that this is exactly the world's attitude towards Dan-types 
 who make untoward proclamations?  As much as the handcuffing expectations of 
 New Agers may have painted Dan into a psychological corner he could not bear, 
 far more massively did the world at large have this negativity -- a 
 resistance -- that presented itself as impermeable as the Berlin Wall.
 
 The sheer certainty behind the rancor of the anti-New Agers is the exact snag 
 that Dan helped me confront in my own philosophical prejudices.  We are as if 
 finding faces in the clouds and then yelling at each other for being 
 ridiculous only to see every interpretation become rapidly invalid by the 
 winds above.  That's the amness that is the divine Rorschach upon which all 
 conceptuals are projected, and Dan taught that this parsing of reality was 
 the problem -- it was this Adam complex in which one is naming all the 
 beasts, and that keeps Adam thinking he's Adam-the-namer donchasee?
 
 Down with certainty  A concept is a crime against infinity.

Re: [FairfieldLife] President Obama Honors Paul McCartney

do.rflex wrote:
 The President hails Paul McCartney's contribution to popular music and song 
 during a ceremony to present the singer with the Library of Congress Gershwin 
 Prize.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuPXpKPh4Uw

I wonder how much money Sir Paul has in BP?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note

Rick Archer wrote:
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Alex Stanley
 Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:40 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note

 Edg, esoteric New Age woo-woo played a critical role in Dan's reason for
 committing suicide. 
 Maybe. Maybe it was a simple case of bi-polar disorder, suffered by a very
 spiritual guy.
 In that light, I think it's understandable that those ideas receive their
 share of criticism for their role in this tragedy.
 That too, but if the criticism is one-sided, closed to other possibilities,
 then the critic isn't seeing the whole picture.

People are going to do what they are going to do.  There may be no free 
will, just a script to follow.  You may not happen to life, life may 
happen to you.

Clinical depression is chemically caused and correctable with 
chemicals.  Situational depression is caused by the situation the person 
finds themselves in and correctable by changing the situation (or 
understanding it).  Some people can flip the state and just decide to be 
a pain in the ass to everyone else.  That's far better than committing 
suicide.

[FairfieldLife] Are you normal?

Just another way of asking to see the hands of those who believe they 
are sane.  So are you normal?  Or the norm?  Or do you even want to be?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Weird and charming stuff from cyberspace

TurquoiseB wrote:
 Edg will love this. Facebook is trying to fix me up.

 Today on in the pane that lists your Suggested Friends
 in its main News Feed window, my #1 Suggested Friend
 was Traci Lords, former porn star turned mainstream
 actress (sort of).

 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=705563104ref=pymk
 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=705563104ref=pymk

 My second suggested Friend was this babe:

 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100...000156387146ref=pymk
 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100...000156387146ref=pymk

 WTF? What did I click on to subscribe to the Hookers
 'R Us channel?   :-)

   

You must have never had a MySpace account.  The majority of all the so 
and so wants to be your friend were all from porn models using 
MySpace as a way to get you to their porn site.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BP Managers are Incompetent

I also heard Sally Quinn blames Bush for the Gore's divorce. Seems that since 
the 2000 election the Gores just haven't been the same. Instead of a tragic 
death, it ends in divorce.

From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 3:11:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BP Managers are Incompetent

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote:

 BP's failure to contain the oil spill discloses its gross
 negligence in managing the oil drilling operations. The
 company should have installed safety measures to prevent
 fires and explosions. In the event of explosions, the
 company should have had a multifaceted contingency plan in
 place to contain possible disasters.

 As it is now, the company clearly shows it does not have any
 idea how to fix this disaster

*Nobody* knows how to fix this disaster. Given that there
were no plans for dealing with it beforehand, BP's doing
as well as anybody else could, trying one thing after
another. It's a tremendously complicated problem to shut
off the oil flow, much more so than most people realize.

 The company officials should be indicted for criminal and
 gross negligence, as well as being fined for the damage it
 has caused in the coastal regions of the states affected.

They're in a heap o' trouble as it is. It's beginning to
look as though BP's American subsidiary may not survive
(she said hopefully).

It should be noted that the reason they were able to get
away with the laxity that brought about the blowout was
that under Bush, the MMS, the agency that's supposed to
supervise and regulate the oil drilling industry, had
become an arm of the industry. And when Obama took office,
reforming the agency was not at the top of his list of
priorities.

So it isn't *just* BP that's to blame here.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

My sister and her husband flew directly over it this week coming to Austin from 
Tampa and back. The pilots pointed it out for the passengers to see each time. 
So what do you want, dozens of plains and helicopters crashing into each other 
and operations so some news crew can get a *scoop*?





From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:20:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

  
This site will help you find demonstrations in your area:
http://www.seizebp.org/

Now how is it that BP can declare no fly zones over the spill which I 
hear this morning has been extended into areas it shouldn't? Since when 
have they become the US government? Fuck'em. And fuck the US 
government for being in bed with them.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

That's laughable, Mike.  So are you saying the pilots for news planes 
are incompetent too?  No, they're banning flying over those areas to 
keep the public from seeing how bad this really is.

Mike Dixon wrote:
 My sister and her husband flew directly over it this week coming to Austin 
 from Tampa and back. The pilots pointed it out for the passengers to see each 
 time. So what do you want, dozens of plains and helicopters crashing into 
 each other and operations so some news crew can get a *scoop*?




 
 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:20:16 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

   
 This site will help you find demonstrations in your area:
 http://www.seizebp.org/

 Now how is it that BP can declare no fly zones over the spill which I 
 hear this morning has been extended into areas it shouldn't? Since when 
 have they become the US government? Fuck'em. And fuck the US 
 government for being in bed with them.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick

2010-06-03 Thread ditzyklanmail

Reads like someone has a crush on authfriend! : )
...jealous of another guy getting all the attention?

From: Joe geezerfr...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 2 June, 2010 11:12:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick

You aren't making any sense? OMG, now you're channeling Willytex!

What next? Go figure? 

Beyond what you do here every day, I suppose you could hire a plane to drag a 
I am obsessed with Barry Wright' banner. Maybe you have

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 Give it up, Joe. You aren't making any sense. You're
 trying to protect a blatant phony from criticism.

 When a person repeatedly tries to commit fraud, it's
 hardly an obsession to continue to point it out.

 And if you didn't care what I do, you wouldn't keep
 complaining about it.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote:

  Of course it's a defense of Barry? Only in your obsessed mind Judy, only 
  in your mind.

  You're trying to intimidate me into shutting up about him... Wow 
  people.can you believe this? No Judy, I'm not trying to intimidate you. 
  I truly don't care what you do. I only made a comment about your utterly 
  obvious-to-everyone obsession with Barry.

  These are not attacks. They are comments on the obvious. Since you appear 
  to spend a significant chunk of your posting day making comments about 
  Barry, the troubles are certainly yours. Be honest and own them.

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote:

You're right Judy. Not once (that I recall either) have I
addressed any so called point you've made regarding Barry.

I have this thing called a life, and I don't want to waste
any of it on endless and pointless journeys into the depths
of your obsession with him. You mistake this decision on my
part with a defense of Barry. In other words refusing to
roll around in your Barry obsession equals a defense of Barry.

   Well, of course it's a defense of Barry. You're trying (very
   unsuccessfully) to intimidate me into shutting up about him
   without making any effort to demonstrate why my critiques
   aren't valid or why I shouldn't be making them.

   If you were a better friend to Barry, you'd take him aside
   and knock some sense into him. You don't do him any favors
   with your lamer attacks on me.

I don't CARE about your troubles with Barry, other than to
note occasionally, that your obsession appears to be never-
ending.

   Barry's horse's-assery appears to be never-ending. And the
   troubles are his (and apparently yours as well), not mine.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Impermanence

2010-06-03 Thread ditzyklanmail


A friend once told me when monks had completed a mandala and left, the friend 
placed polyurethane over it to keep it. hahahaha. Still has it, the friend 
says. 






From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 2 June, 2010 11:34:49 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Impermanence

  
CNN has a two-minute time-lapse video of a group 
of monks creating a sand mandala symbolically 
representing Avalokiteshvara, the Buddha of 
Compassion, at Emory University in Atlanta:

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/02/a-mandala-in-minutes

http://tinyurl.com/2ecnmvg

Took the four monks six days of exacting work to 
make the mandala. Then, as per the standard 
ritual, they swept all the sand up, handing half 
of it out to the folks who had assembled to watch 
as a blessing for health and healing, then dumping 
the rest in a nearby river as a gift to Mother
Earth.

After I read the story and watched the video, I 
had the haunting sense that it vaguely reminded me 
of something, something that had taken place very 
recently.

I finally realized what was resonating. The monks 
sweep away this spectacularly glorious work of art 
when it's finished, willfully destroying what 
they've so painstakingly created, to symbolize the 
impermanence of life.

It's a kind of suicide.

[FairfieldLife] Go veggie, go ...

2010-06-03 Thread merlin

Go veggie, cut fossil fuels to aid planet: study
by Alister Doyle, Environment Correspondent

Reuters    Translate This Article
2 June 2010

OSLO (Reuters) - An overhaul of world farming and more vegetarianism should be 
top priorities to protect the environment, along with curbs on fossil fuel use, 
a U.N.-backed study said on Wednesday. 

The report said food production and fossil fuel use caused pollution, 
greenhouse gases, diseases and forest destruction. 

'How the world is fed and fueled will in large part define development in the 
21st century,' said the 112-page report by the International Panel for 
Sustainable Resource Management. 

'Agricultural production accounts for a staggering 70 percent of the global 
freshwater consumption, 38 percent of the total land use and 14 percent of the 
world's greenhouse gas emissions,' said Achim Steiner, head of the U.N. 
Environment Programme. 

The report said consumers could help by cutting down on meat consumption and 
use of fossil fuels in heating or travel. 'Animal products are important 
because more than half of the world's crops are used to feed animals, not 
people,' it said. 

'A substantial reduction of impacts would only be possible with a substantial 
worldwide diet change, away from animal products.' 

Researchers said it was no surprise fossil fuels were a top concern. 

'More surprising was food production—agriculture, fishing and pasture,' Edgar 
Hertwich, lead author at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology, 
told Reuters. 

Reform 'will be a titanic task, but one that is essential for our future 
prosperity and quality of life,' Janez Potocnik, European Environment 
Commissioner, said in a statement. 

Increasing wealth in developing nations could mean more damage, such as more 
demand for meat. 

'Meat consumption per capita in China rose by 42 percent over eight years from 
1995 to 2003,' said Sangwon Suh of the University of California, Santa Barbara. 

The study also said that the world should focus on improving use of materials 
such as plastics, iron, steel and aluminum. 

Janet Salem of UNEP said the report should remind people in urban areas that 
clearance of distant forests—making way for farmland and destroying habitats of 
animals and plants—could be traced to their choice of food in supermarkets. 

'Faraway environmental impacts are related to people in cities,' she said. 

(Editing by Andrew Roche) 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick

So, now it's all about 'Willytex'.

Joe:
 You aren't making any sense? OMG, now 
 you're channeling Willytex!
 
 What next? Go figure? 
 
 Beyond what you do here every day, I 
 suppose you could hire a plane to drag 
 a I am obsessed with Barry Wright' 
 banner. Maybe you have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are you normal?



Bhairitu:
 Just another way of asking to see the 
 hands of those who believe they 
 are sane.  So are you normal?  Or the 
 norm?  Or do you even want to be?

How do you define 'normal'? You're not
making any sense. Why are you asking?

[FairfieldLife] BP, Halliburton Lawyer Up, Attempt To Buy Off Government Officials

2010-06-03 Thread do.rflex


BP And Halliburton Build Legal Teams, Attempt To Buy Off Government
Officials

Facing possible  jail time
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/0602/Oil-spill-jail-time-for-\
BP-officials-It-could-happen  for their roles in the largest oil spill
in American  history, BP and Halliburton are building high-powered 
legal teams
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/06/02/02greenwire-bp-halliburton-tran\
socean-build-legal-teams-77304.html  with deep Department of
Justice and White House ties.  But the companies are pursuing other
means to defend themselves as  well.
Halliburton's campaign donations have spiked as it tries to curry 
favor with key members of Congress investigating the disaster. The 
company donated $17,000 in May, making it the busiest  donation
month http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38047.html  for
Halliburton's PAC since September 2008, Politico  reports.
Thirteen of the 14 contributions from May went to Republicans,  while
seven went to members of Congress who are on committees with
oversight of  the oil spill
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38047.html  and its
aftermath:

About one week before executive Timothy Probert  appeared before the
House Energy and Commerce's investigative  subcommittee, Halliburton
donated $1,500 to Ranking Republican Joe  Barton's reelection
effort. It was Halliburton's second-largest  donation of the month
 topped only by $2,500 to former Rep. Pat Toomey  (R-Pa.), who is
running for the Senate.

In the Senate, Idaho Republican Mike Crapo, who serves on the 
Environment and Public Works Committee, Georgia Republican Johnny 
Isakson, who serves on the Commerce Committee and North Carolina 
Republican Richard Burr (N.C.), who serves on the Energy and Natural 
Resources Committee, all got $1,000. Sen. Chuck Grassley  (R-Iowa) also
got $1,000.

Meanwhile, a Hill analysis found that primarily during the Bush 
administration, BP and other oil companies paid  for dozens of
trips and meals for officials
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/101161-bp-paid-for-agency-of\
ficials-trips-meals  from the Department of  Interior, the
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and the Department  of Homeland
Security  agencies deeply involved in the regulation of  oil
exploration and spill cleanup. BP had the highest  tab for gifts
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/101161-bp-paid-for-agency-of\
ficials-trips-meals  to government officials of all oil and gas 
companies:

BP and its affiliates  BP America and BP Exploration   show up
in the gift reports at least 16 different times, paying  for meals as
well as for oil and gas industry seminars and tours of oil  facilities.
The cost of the gifts totaled more than $7,200.

Only two industry-funded trips took place during the first nine  months
of President Obama's administration. In 2004, BP paid for a group 
of Interior officials to visit  an offshore rig
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/101161-bp-paid-for-agency-of\
ficials-trips-meals  in the Gulf of Mexico. The group included 
then-deputy secretary J. Steven Griles, who later went  to prison
http://thinkprogress.org/interior-scandals-under-bush/
for his role in Jack Abramoff scandal.

In 2005, BP paid  for travel and meals for then-Interior Secretary Gale
Norton and  then-Minerals Management Service (MMS) Director Johnnie
Burton to  attended the dedication  ceremony
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/101161-bp-paid-for-agency-of\
ficials-trips-meals  of another offshore rig in the Gulf.


BP also paid for  officials from the EPA and the Fish and Wildlife
Service to visit  Prudhoe Bay, Alaska over a period of several years. A
recent Interior  Inspector General report covering 2005 to 2007 found a
culture  of lax oversight
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2010/05/25/25greenwire-interior-probe-find\
s-fraternizing-porn-and-dru-45260.html  and cozy ties to industry.
Since January of 2008,  BP lobbyists have spent $30 million to influence
legislation, according  to the Center for Responsive  Politics
http://www.opensecrets.org/ .

Some coastal governors have benefited from BP as well. BP and other  oil
companies gave Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (R) $1.8  million dollars
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/06/02/barbour-oil-milkjug/  for his
campaign, and since the spill, he's been aggressively  downplaying
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/14/barbour-enjoy-beaches-spill/  the
disaster and encouraging people to visit his  state's oily beaches.


Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) traveled to a BP-funded  conference
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/04/mcdonnell-drilling-bp/  in Houston
last month to lobby aggressively to drill  for oil and natural gas
without delay. Meanwhile, Texas Gov. Rick Perry  (R) dismissed
potential BP negligence by calling the spill an act of God
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/05/03/bp-perry-god/   at a trade
association funded by BP in May.

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/06/03/bp-halliburton-buy-off/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Go veggie, go ...

Anemia for everyone?  Yes, most of the populace can reduce their 
consumption of animal protein.  But many can't do without it.

Of course the energy companies will jump on this bandwagon so they can 
control the patents and restrict the use of veggie fuels.  Instead why 
not get big trucks off the highways (we're moving back to rail anyway as 
many truckers go out of business).  Then people will feel more safe in 
smaller cars (like a big honkin' SUV is going to save your ass in a 
collision with a Mac truck).

A better idea is to get rid of corporatism for as long as you have that 
you'll never get any progress.


merlin wrote:
 Go veggie, cut fossil fuels to aid planet: study
 by Alister Doyle, Environment Correspondent

 ReutersTranslate This Article
 2 June 2010

 OSLO (Reuters) - An overhaul of world farming and more vegetarianism should 
 be top priorities to protect the environment, along with curbs on fossil fuel 
 use, a U.N.-backed study said on Wednesday. 

 The report said food production and fossil fuel use caused pollution, 
 greenhouse gases, diseases and forest destruction. 

 'How the world is fed and fueled will in large part define development in the 
 21st century,' said the 112-page report by the International Panel for 
 Sustainable Resource Management. 

 'Agricultural production accounts for a staggering 70 percent of the global 
 freshwater consumption, 38 percent of the total land use and 14 percent of 
 the world's greenhouse gas emissions,' said Achim Steiner, head of the U.N. 
 Environment Programme. 

 The report said consumers could help by cutting down on meat consumption and 
 use of fossil fuels in heating or travel. 'Animal products are important 
 because more than half of the world's crops are used to feed animals, not 
 people,' it said. 

 'A substantial reduction of impacts would only be possible with a substantial 
 worldwide diet change, away from animal products.' 

 Researchers said it was no surprise fossil fuels were a top concern. 

 'More surprising was food production—agriculture, fishing and pasture,' Edgar 
 Hertwich, lead author at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology, 
 told Reuters. 

 Reform 'will be a titanic task, but one that is essential for our future 
 prosperity and quality of life,' Janez Potocnik, European Environment 
 Commissioner, said in a statement. 

 Increasing wealth in developing nations could mean more damage, such as more 
 demand for meat. 

 'Meat consumption per capita in China rose by 42 percent over eight years 
 from 1995 to 2003,' said Sangwon Suh of the University of California, Santa 
 Barbara. 

 The study also said that the world should focus on improving use of materials 
 such as plastics, iron, steel and aluminum. 

 Janet Salem of UNEP said the report should remind people in urban areas that 
 clearance of distant forests—making way for farmland and destroying habitats 
 of animals and plants—could be traced to their choice of food in 
 supermarkets. 

 'Faraway environmental impacts are related to people in cities,' she said. 

 (Editing by Andrew Roche) 

 Copyright 2010 Reuters. Reprinted with permission from Reuters. Reuters 
 content is the intellectual property of Reuters or its third party content 
 providers. Any copying, republication or redistribution of Reuters content is 
 expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters 
 shall not be liable for any errors or delays in content, or for any actions 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Are you normal?

Bhairitu wrote:
 Just another way of asking to see the hands of those who believe they 
 are sane.  So are you normal?  Or the norm?  Or do you even want to be?

Sorry, I can't help you with your cognitive disability.  Seek care from 
a medical professional.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note

2010-06-03 Thread wayback71



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 For you folks who think that Dan's suicide was crazy nuts and are rather high 
 strung about how New Agers are waxing on about Dan, I'm asking if you see 
 that that's a religious position.  Meaning that you're displaying values 
 which, like religious values, are matters of faith much more than fact.  
 
 I have, say, three, four, five and who knows how many more theories about 
 what happens after death, and given your alarm about Dan, the atmosphere for 
 discussion here is seriously dampened.  Edification here?  Sure
 
 Why would anyone try to get closure here with some sort of framing about Dan 
 that they can abide with?  No matter the theory, someone here is sure to 
 stompsmashshit on it.  This is not a healing place now is it?
 
 That's the bane of FFL -- you have to be a fool to post anything that your 
 heart is (perhaps temporarily yes) resonating with.
 
 This place is great at rending, and that's a service I've benefited often and 
 deeply from, because, yah, I gots delusions like the next guy, and one can 
 get rapidly sandpapered here, but this righteous anger about the 
 closure-memes of the New Agers seems tawdry -- like someone shouting out He 
 went to hell at Dan's funeral.  
 
 Given the black tragedies of the world, Dan's pales to ecru.  On the Earth we 
 have 60,000,000 people with IQs over 140 -- geniuses all -- yet Gaia is in 
 such deep despair.  Get it?  Figuring out Dan's why-whats would have been 
 figured if it could have been figured at all and figured thousands of years 
 ago and be yet seen being taught in hieroglyphics or live desert scrolls 
 whatever.
 
 This is a time for deep consideration, but such cannot happen if one's 
 explorations into this unknown are relentlessly scoffed at by FFL's dolts and 
 atheists and smarm lords.  (Pick yer slot!  If you're angry, choose dolt.)
 
 And don't you see that this is exactly the world's attitude towards Dan-types 
 who make untoward proclamations?  As much as the handcuffing expectations of 
 New Agers may have painted Dan into a psychological corner he could not bear, 
 far more massively did the world at large have this negativity -- a 
 resistance -- that presented itself as impermeable as the Berlin Wall.

To those critical of Edg, Rick, the Wed satang, whatever -Look, if a person is 
depressed either due to just plain old major depression or bipolar, they will 
find a reason to be depressed - and then some act on that reason. The mind 
looks for cause and effect, regardless of the emotion being entertained.  
Therefore,  New Age stuff most likely did not push Dan over the edge, or 
anywhere.  If Dan was depressed, he would find reasons to account for his 
feelings.  IF he were poor, he would bemoan the lack of resources in his life, 
if he were gay, he would focus on the isolation of that, if he had just broken 
up with his girlfriend, he would perseverate about that.  The underlying 
problem was probably his brain chemistry. Perhaps his sadness was overlooked or 
minimized by others.  Most people don't expect a friend to kill themselves - 
they just don't.  Could people learn from this tragedy?  You bet.  But this 
Blame Game  smells of self-righteousness to me. And a waste of time. If you are 
so outraged about this, go help a living person in your community, or donate 
some blood.
 
 The sheer certainty behind the rancor of the anti-New Agers is the exact snag 
 that Dan helped me confront in my own philosophical prejudices.  We are as if 
 finding faces in the clouds and then yelling at each other for being 
 ridiculous only to see every interpretation become rapidly invalid by the 
 winds above.  That's the amness that is the divine Rorschach upon which all 
 conceptuals are projected, and Dan taught that this parsing of reality was 
 the problem -- it was this Adam complex in which one is naming all the 
 beasts, and that keeps Adam thinking he's Adam-the-namer donchasee?
 
 Down with certainty  A concept is a crime against infinity.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bilderberg visits Barryville

Bhairitu wrote:
 Listening to Alex Jones a few minutes ago he mentioned Sitges and that 
 air space is closed because the snobs of the world are meeting there.  
 Here's a news article about it:
 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article7142478.ece

 Perhaps Barry can give us a play-by-play. :-D


   
Here's Charlie Skelton's report today:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/jun/03/bilderberg-spain-charlie-skelton

Apparently Barry can get an Ayurvedic massage there. ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: A challenge to Rick

2010-06-03 Thread parsleysage


peace
oeace
peace
Rick seems like a decent being to me.

Anyone know where i can get some sorrel to plant, seeds , or plants-for growing 
and sharing from my garden? I've been searching.

Ciao

-M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:

 
 You aren't making any sense? OMG, now you're channeling Willytex!
 
 What next? Go figure? 
 
 Beyond what you do here every day, I suppose you could hire a plane to drag a 
 I am obsessed with Barry Wright' banner. Maybe you have
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  Give it up, Joe. You aren't making any sense. You're
  trying to protect a blatant phony from criticism.
  
  When a person repeatedly tries to commit fraud, it's
  hardly an obsession to continue to point it out.
  
  And if you didn't care what I do, you wouldn't keep
  complaining about it.
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote:
  
   Of course it's a defense of Barry? Only in your obsessed mind Judy, 
   only in your mind.
   
   You're trying to intimidate me into shutting up about him... Wow 
   people.can you believe this? No Judy, I'm not trying to intimidate 
   you. I truly don't care what you do. I only made a comment about your 
   utterly obvious-to-everyone obsession with Barry.
   
   These are not attacks. They are comments on the obvious. Since you appear 
   to spend a significant chunk of your posting day making comments about 
   Barry, the troubles are certainly yours. Be honest and own them.
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfreak@ wrote:

 You're right Judy. Not once (that I recall either) have I
 addressed any so called point you've made regarding Barry.
 
 I have this thing called a life, and I don't want to waste
 any of it on endless and pointless journeys into the depths
 of your obsession with him. You mistake this decision on my
 part with a defense of Barry. In other words refusing to
 roll around in your Barry obsession equals a defense of Barry.

Well, of course it's a defense of Barry. You're trying (very
unsuccessfully) to intimidate me into shutting up about him
without making any effort to demonstrate why my critiques
aren't valid or why I shouldn't be making them.

If you were a better friend to Barry, you'd take him aside
and knock some sense into him. You don't do him any favors
with your lamer attacks on me.

 I don't CARE about your troubles with Barry, other than to
 note occasionally, that your obsession appears to be never-
 ending.

Barry's horse's-assery appears to be never-ending. And the
troubles are his (and apparently yours as well), not mine.

[FairfieldLife] Monkey party at Tushita

 
Monkey Party at TushitaPosted in Life on the Road with Lama Zopa Rinpocheon 
March 29th, 2010 by  Carina Rumrill – 1 Comment
Tushita Meditation Centre, Dharamsala, India – March 28, 2010
From Ven. Roger Kunsang:
Every day during the Hayagriva retreat, Rinpoche has been offering a party to 
the monkeys. Rinpoche has provided the monkeys with a very nice setup. Three 
big basins serve as their baths and swimming pools. They’ve been given lots of 
different colored plastic balls that they can throw around and play with. Also, 
there are lots of plastic bottles filled with water – perfect for playing with 
and punching. Rinpoche throws food out to them daily:  chocolate, fruit, 
biscuits, bread, puffed rice – everything that is edible in the house.
Today was unusual because it seemed that there was an abnormal amount of 
teenage monkeys and they were extremely wild. They were bouncing off the roof, 
hitting windows, going from tree to tree, bumping into each other and jumping 
into the water basins for almost three hours. It was a completely wild scene!
The other day, one monkey stole Rinpoche’s underskirt that was hanging outside 
on the roof to dry. The monkey managed to wrap Rinpcohe’s underskirt around 
him, like a cape, and eventually over his head, causing him to freak out and 
fall out of the tree. When that happened, he went wild and ripped it in half. 
It now hangs in two pieces up in a tree.

[FairfieldLife] Dzogchen Retreat on the East Coast

2010-06-03 Thread emptybill

For East Coasters who might be interested --

Summer Dzogchen Retreat Vimalamitra's Instructions on The Six Lamps
(Translation by Erik Drew)

The Seventh Annual Summer Dzogchen Retreat will  present  Vimalamitra's
Instructions on The Six Lamps. These are the  essence of the Vima 
Nyingtik, which differs from the common 4 or 6  Lamps of Togal practice.
Vimalamitra's Instructions reflect his own  experience on the base of
Trekcho and  Togal. They also contains  detailed instructions on Space
and Primordial Wisdom.  Thus, it is of  great benefit to both new and
experienced Dzogchen practitioners.  Most  importantly, Rinpoche will
lend to the teachings his own personal   experience, understanding and
practical meditative techniques.

At Rinpoche's request, attendance at all  five days  of the retreat is
required.


Location:
Studio Helix, 150 Main St. 3rd Floor, Thornes Market,   Northampton, MA
01060.

Times:
9:30-5:30 each day  (except Sunday, which will end at 4:30)

Cost for the Retreat:
$300 if payment is received by  June 1st.
$340 if payment is received by June 15th.
$370 for payments  received after June 15th, or at the door.

Please make checks payable to RSL and mail your registration  to:
Marc Gerstein, 81 Gulf Road, Belchertown, MA 01007.

Contact:
Marc  Gerstein, (413) 253-7997 |   westmassachuse...@rimeshedrubling.org
mailto:westmassachuse...@rimeshedrubling.org?subject=june%2030%20summer\
%20Dzogchen%20Retreat

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Age bashers -- please note

2010-06-03 Thread parsleysage

I love that you posted this. 
Let's post stuff that is out of the heart 
and let's have some heart to anyone that does post

peace y all

chanting peace peace peace in whatever language is meaningless until one Does It

Just let it be

There doesn't have to be suffering in the world
one thing we can smallishly (and small things are huge)do is:
speak with words that are healing
 have peace like buds in them
hug with our words instead of slapping

think well of the other person
think that they are trying to convey something, what is it? and they may be 
afraid
they may just want to be loved

love y all


whisper words of wisdom


there will be an answer


let it be
let it be
let it be

these songs like this were written with such intent- listen to them again...

there is beauty in them so much beauty

love to you

-M

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote:

 For you folks who think that Dan's suicide was crazy nuts and are rather high 
 strung about how New Agers are waxing on about Dan, I'm asking if you see 
 that that's a religious position.  Meaning that you're displaying values 
 which, like religious values, are matters of faith much more than fact.  
 
 I have, say, three, four, five and who knows how many more theories about 
 what happens after death, and given your alarm about Dan, the atmosphere for 
 discussion here is seriously dampened.  Edification here?  Sure
 
 Why would anyone try to get closure here with some sort of framing about Dan 
 that they can abide with?  No matter the theory, someone here is sure to 
 stompsmashshit on it.  This is not a healing place now is it?
 
 That's the bane of FFL -- you have to be a fool to post anything that your 
 heart is (perhaps temporarily yes) resonating with.
 
 This place is great at rending, and that's a service I've benefited often and 
 deeply from, because, yah, I gots delusions like the next guy, and one can 
 get rapidly sandpapered here, but this righteous anger about the 
 closure-memes of the New Agers seems tawdry -- like someone shouting out He 
 went to hell at Dan's funeral.  
 
 Given the black tragedies of the world, Dan's pales to ecru.  On the Earth we 
 have 60,000,000 people with IQs over 140 -- geniuses all -- yet Gaia is in 
 such deep despair.  Get it?  Figuring out Dan's why-whats would have been 
 figured if it could have been figured at all and figured thousands of years 
 ago and be yet seen being taught in hieroglyphics or live desert scrolls 
 whatever.
 
 This is a time for deep consideration, but such cannot happen if one's 
 explorations into this unknown are relentlessly scoffed at by FFL's dolts and 
 atheists and smarm lords.  (Pick yer slot!  If you're angry, choose dolt.)
 
 And don't you see that this is exactly the world's attitude towards Dan-types 
 who make untoward proclamations?  As much as the handcuffing expectations of 
 New Agers may have painted Dan into a psychological corner he could not bear, 
 far more massively did the world at large have this negativity -- a 
 resistance -- that presented itself as impermeable as the Berlin Wall.
 
 The sheer certainty behind the rancor of the anti-New Agers is the exact snag 
 that Dan helped me confront in my own philosophical prejudices.  We are as if 
 finding faces in the clouds and then yelling at each other for being 
 ridiculous only to see every interpretation become rapidly invalid by the 
 winds above.  That's the amness that is the divine Rorschach upon which all 
 conceptuals are projected, and Dan taught that this parsing of reality was 
 the problem -- it was this Adam complex in which one is naming all the 
 beasts, and that keeps Adam thinking he's Adam-the-namer donchasee?
 
 Down with certainty  A concept is a crime against infinity.

[FairfieldLife] A MESSAGE FROM GOD TO YOU

2010-06-03 Thread merlin












Guru Dev said to Maharishi:
'The Department of the Almmighty takes care of it . . . . 











Jai Guru Dev
His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi always saying:
Jai Guru Dev Vijayante Taram!!



Begin forwarded message:




 






To: YOU
Date: TODAY
From: GOD
Subject: YOURSELF
Reference: LIFE

This is God. Today I will be handling All of your problems for you.
I do Not need your help. So, have a nice day.

I love you. And, remember If life happens to deliver a situation
to you that you cannot handle, do Not attempt to resolve it yourself!
Kindly put it in the SFGTD (something for God to do) box. I will get
to it in MY TIME. All situations will be resolved, but in My time,
not yours. Once the matter is placed into the box, do not hold onto it
by worrying about it. Instead, focus on all the wonderful things that
are present in your life now. Should you decide to send this to a
friend; Thank you. You may have touched their life in ways you will
never know!

Now, you have a nice day.

God

God has seen you struggling, God says it's over.

A blessing is coming your way. If you believe in God, please send to
ten people (including me) please don't ignore this. You are being
tested.

[FairfieldLife] Yet More Science and Spirituality

I was dial surfing last night on that old technology radio and caught 
some David Sereda's rap on George Noory's show:
http://www.voiceentertainment.net/

Don't know if anyone has linked to it here before.  The rap on the radio 
was interesting though.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

Who is doing the *banning*? It certainly can't be BP because they don't have 
the authority. Do you think the FAA might be banning private aircraft over the 
area to avoid mid air collisions? Sounds reasonable to me. Commercial air craft 
are still flying over it in their prescribed routes. I know this, as I said 
earlier, because my sister and brother in-law flew over it twice and the pilots 
pointed it out to all the passengers.




From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:58:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

  
That's laughable, Mike. So are you saying the pilots for news planes 
are incompetent too? No, they're banning flying over those areas to 
keep the public from seeing how bad this really is.

Mike Dixon wrote:
 My sister and her husband flew directly over it this week coming to Austin 
 from Tampa and back. The pilots pointed it out for the passengers to see each 
 time. So what do you want, dozens of plains and helicopters crashing into 
 each other and operations so some news crew can get a *scoop*?




 
 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:20:16 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

 
 This site will help you find demonstrations in your area:
 http://www.seizebp.org/

 Now how is it that BP can declare no fly zones over the spill which I 
 hear this morning has been extended into areas it shouldn't? Since when 
 have they become the US government? Fuck'em. And fuck the US 
 government for being in bed with them.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

The claim came from marine biologist Riki Ott who was on Thom Hartmann's 
show today.  From a listener blog:
http://sayitaintsoalready.com/2010/06/03/bp-takes-over-american-airspace/

I don't think the FAA is banning those flights to avoid mid-air 
collisions.  They are trying to avoid evidence of collusions. ;-)

How is your BP stock, Mike?  You must have a lot of it to be apologizing 
for them.


Mike Dixon wrote:
 Who is doing the *banning*? It certainly can't be BP because they don't have 
 the authority. Do you think the FAA might be banning private aircraft over 
 the area to avoid mid air collisions? Sounds reasonable to me. Commercial air 
 craft are still flying over it in their prescribed routes. I know this, as I 
 said earlier, because my sister and brother in-law flew over it twice and the 
 pilots pointed it out to all the passengers.



 
 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:58:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

   
 That's laughable, Mike. So are you saying the pilots for news planes 
 are incompetent too? No, they're banning flying over those areas to 
 keep the public from seeing how bad this really is.

 Mike Dixon wrote:
   
 My sister and her husband flew directly over it this week coming to Austin 
 from Tampa and back. The pilots pointed it out for the passengers to see 
 each time. So what do you want, dozens of plains and helicopters crashing 
 into each other and operations so some news crew can get a *scoop*?




 
 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:20:16 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP


 This site will help you find demonstrations in your area:
 http://www.seizebp.org/

 Now how is it that BP can declare no fly zones over the spill which I 
 hear this morning has been extended into areas it shouldn't? Since when 
 have they become the US government? Fuck'em. And fuck the US 
 government for being in bed with them.

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2010-06-03 Thread FFL PostCount

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

Might be a good time to buy BP stock. Buy low, sell high, too big to fail! Any 
way, I'm not apologizing for BP. As I said , they don't have the authority to 
close any airspace, only your prez can do that through the FAA. But it might be 
one of his more intelligent decisions in order to avoid low flying aircraft 
collisions. Not too many traffic control towers in the gulf to direct air 
traffic. Various news crews from all over the country and world along with 
sight seers in private plains. Could be very dangerous. But I see your point, 
Obama MUST be taking more bribes from BP to protect their beautiful untarnished 
image. Now if they could just stop all those pesky commercial flights over the 
spill. Hmmm maybe BP has put in for SAM's from Russia.




From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 5:11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

  
The claim came from marine biologist Riki Ott who was on Thom Hartmann's 
show today. From a listener blog:
http://sayitaintsoalready.com/2010/06/03/bp-takes-over-american-airspace/

I don't think the FAA is banning those flights to avoid mid-air 
collisions. They are trying to avoid evidence of collusions. ;-)

How is your BP stock, Mike? You must have a lot of it to be apologizing 
for them.

Mike Dixon wrote:
 Who is doing the *banning*? It certainly can't be BP because they don't have 
 the authority. Do you think the FAA might be banning private aircraft over 
 the area to avoid mid air collisions? Sounds reasonable to me. Commercial air 
 craft are still flying over it in their prescribed routes. I know this, as I 
 said earlier, because my sister and brother in-law flew over it twice and the 
 pilots pointed it out to all the passengers.



 
 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:58:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

 
 That's laughable, Mike. So are you saying the pilots for news planes 
 are incompetent too? No, they're banning flying over those areas to 
 keep the public from seeing how bad this really is.

 Mike Dixon wrote:
 
 My sister and her husband flew directly over it this week coming to Austin 
 from Tampa and back. The pilots pointed it out for the passengers to see 
 each time. So what do you want, dozens of plains and helicopters crashing 
 into each other and operations so some news crew can get a *scoop*?




 
 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:20:16 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP


 This site will help you find demonstrations in your area:
 http://www.seizebp.org/

 Now how is it that BP can declare no fly zones over the spill which I 
 hear this morning has been extended into areas it shouldn't? Since when 
 have they become the US government? Fuck'em. And fuck the US 
 government for being in bed with them.

[FairfieldLife] PRP colostrum spray

http://www.tinyurl.com/279rg5m
...
 
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thousands of compounds designed to work together and quantities designed by 
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Using a unique and patented process, these PRP’s are carefully extracted from 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

Sounds like you didn't read the blog article. It pointed to this one in
the Bayoubuzz News.
http://www.bayoubuzz.com/louisiana-local-/27268-bp-oil-spill-is-obama-admin-suppressing-deep-horizon-story

Mike Dixon wrote:
Might be a good time to buy BP stock. Buy low, sell high, too big to fail!
Any way, I'm not apologizing for BP. As I said , they don't have the
authority to close any airspace, only your prez can do that through the FAA.
But it might be one of his more intelligent decisions in order to avoid low
flying aircraft collisions. Not too many traffic control towers in the gulf
to direct air traffic. Various news crews from all over the country and world
along with sight seers in private plains. Could be very dangerous. But I see
your point, Obama MUST be taking more bribes from BP to protect their
beautiful untarnished image. Now if they could just stop all those pesky
commercial flights over the spill. Hmmm maybe BP has put in for SAM's from
Russia.

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 5:11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

The claim came from marine biologist Riki Ott who was on Thom Hartmann's
show today. From a listener blog:
http://sayitaintsoalready.com/2010/06/03/bp-takes-over-american-airspace/

I don't think the FAA is banning those flights to avoid mid-air
collisions. They are trying to avoid evidence of collusions. ;-)

How is your BP stock, Mike? You must have a lot of it to be apologizing
for them.

Mike Dixon wrote:

Who is doing the *banning*? It certainly can't be BP because they don't have
the authority. Do you think the FAA might be banning private aircraft over
the area to avoid mid air collisions? Sounds reasonable to me. Commercial
air craft are still flying over it in their prescribed routes. I know this,
as I said earlier, because my sister and brother in-law flew over it twice
and the pilots pointed it out to all the passengers.

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:58:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

That's laughable, Mike. So are you saying the pilots for news planes
are incompetent too? No, they're banning flying over those areas to
keep the public from seeing how bad this really is.

Mike Dixon wrote:

My sister and her husband flew directly over it this week coming to Austin
from Tampa and back. The pilots pointed it out for the passengers to see
each time. So what do you want, dozens of plains and helicopters crashing
into each other and operations so some news crew can get a *scoop*?

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:20:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

This site will help you find demonstrations in your area:
http://www.seizebp.org/

Now how is it that BP can declare no fly zones over the spill which I
hear this morning has been extended into areas it shouldn't? Since when
have they become the US government? Fuck'em. And fuck the US
government for being in bed with them.

[FairfieldLife] psychic readings by Doris Cohen

http://www.healingrepetition.com/PsychicReadings.aspx

[FairfieldLife] introduction to Chaga mushrooms

Looks like charcoal in some cases.
http://www.chagamushroom.com/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

Presently, governments biggest concern appears to be containing media 
coverage. I think your key word is *appears*. Hey... but it sounds great. How 
much do you think Obama is getting from BP to let the oil flow and stop the 
news coverage so nobody will know?

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 5:41:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

Sounds like you didn't read the blog article. It pointed to this one in 
the Bayoubuzz News.
http://www.bayoubuzz.com/louisiana-local-/27268-bp-oil-spill-is-obama-admin-suppressing-deep-horizon-story

Mike Dixon wrote:
 Might be a good time to buy BP stock. Buy low, sell high, too big to fail! 
 Any way, I'm not apologizing for BP. As I said , they don't have the 
 authority to close any airspace, only your prez can do that through the FAA. 
 But it might be one of his more intelligent decisions in order to avoid low 
 flying aircraft collisions. Not too many traffic control towers in the gulf 
 to direct air traffic. Various news crews from all over the country and world 
 along with sight seers in private plains. Could be very dangerous. But I see 
 your point, Obama MUST be taking more bribes from BP to protect their 
 beautiful untarnished image. Now if they could just stop all those pesky 
 commercial flights over the spill. Hmmm maybe BP has put in for SAM's from 
 Russia.

 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 5:11:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

 The claim came from marine biologist Riki Ott who was on Thom Hartmann's 
 show today. From a listener blog:
 http://sayitaintsoalready.com/2010/06/03/bp-takes-over-american-airspace/

 I don't think the FAA is banning those flights to avoid mid-air 
 collisions. They are trying to avoid evidence of collusions. ;-)

 How is your BP stock, Mike? You must have a lot of it to be apologizing 
 for them.

 Mike Dixon wrote:

 Who is doing the *banning*? It certainly can't be BP because they don't have 
 the authority. Do you think the FAA might be banning private aircraft over 
 the area to avoid mid air collisions? Sounds reasonable to me. Commercial 
 air craft are still flying over it in their prescribed routes. I know this, 
 as I said earlier, because my sister and brother in-law flew over it twice 
 and the pilots pointed it out to all the passengers.

 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:58:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

 That's laughable, Mike. So are you saying the pilots for news planes 
 are incompetent too? No, they're banning flying over those areas to 
 keep the public from seeing how bad this really is.

 Mike Dixon wrote:

 My sister and her husband flew directly over it this week coming to Austin 
 from Tampa and back. The pilots pointed it out for the passengers to see 
 each time. So what do you want, dozens of plains and helicopters crashing 
 into each other and operations so some news crew can get a *scoop*?

 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 9:20:16 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sieze BP

 This site will help you find demonstrations in your area:
 http://www.seizebp.org/

 Now how is it that BP can declare no fly zones over the spill which I 
 hear this morning has been extended into areas it shouldn't? Since when 
 have they become the US government? Fuck'em. And fuck the US 
 government for being in bed with them.

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