[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: some of the new posters figured out the social system. If you throw mud at Barry and Vaj and myself, certain people will have your back. This is surreal Curtis. It's *stupefying*, it's so idiotic. Curtis has apparently been driven over the edge by the fight with his computer virus. He can't get back at the hacker, so he's striking out at everybody else within reach. Note the Barry trick of the vague reference, some of the new posters. Curtis knows that if he had to *name* these new posters, his assertion would collapse immediately, so he doesn't. To modify your obvious shot in the dark, some of the new posters figured out, just like some of the old posters, that they were sick of listening to three guys who always have a hard on for bashing anything TM, and lay labels on others faster than a road striping machine. That's what they figured out. They also figured out that they were going to continue to get gratuitous crap thrown at them personally by certain posters (Barry and Vaj primarily). I mean, if you go back and look at the traffic, Curtis's claim is just obviously completely wrong. He's smart enough to know he's making shit up. But he isn't honest enough to admit it. Marek can be excused for his take, because while he claims to have been reading FFL all along, it's obvious that if he has, he hasn't been paying much attention to what he's read. It's very difficult to get the gist of what's going on if you aren't actively participating. You can make it seem like the three of you cuddly lil' pups have been left at the doorstep, cold and hungry, but that's just until you can get inside and take a big steamy dump on the rug again. Sorry, Happy New Year, but I ain't buying it. Enjoy the weather, everyone else does. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Wow, nothing like hearing an excellent reputation that my ass now has to try to live up to! Thanks Marek! Untethered is such an excellent word. I think the egging on has to do with the fact that some of the new posters figured out the social system. If you throw mud at Barry and Vaj and myself, certain people will have your back. It was a simple social formula that has shielded some posters from a more unanimous group, WTF? In this particular context I think there is a callus disregard for the welfare of this person being played as a pawn. There is something unseemly going on in this dynamic, and I appreciate your speaking up. I have been fascinated by how far people can stretch their oft quoted principles to encourage the enemy of their enemy. It is revealing many trollish agendas here. But with kind words from some posters here, like yourself, I feel as if there is another option for those who value it. Thanks man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: It's not my habit, at least for the last year or so, to interject my opinion into an ongoing thread, but following FFL for the last month or two, it's amazed me to observe the willingness of some folks here to glorify and encourage what, in my opinion and experience, appears to be some very untethered behavior by some of the more recent and prolific posters. And even more inexplicably, to gang up on Curtis, for attempting, in a straightforward yet still compassionate way, to engage in a reasonable exchange with, and criticism of, those individuals. For what it's worth, in my estimation Curtis is a true, shining example of what I'd always hoped the TM movement to produce. There's certainly no one on this board from whom I've learned more. Curtis certainly doesn't need any endorsement from me, but I felt compelled to write, regardless.
[FairfieldLife] In memoriam..
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
Hi Judy, you wrote, You do understand that Robin does not claim to be enlightened and is not seeking enlightenment, that he thinks it's a snare and a delusion, that he believes he was enlightened decades ago and has made a huge effort since then to de-enlighten himself. After reading a lot of what Robin writes about enlightenment and his experience being enlightened, he says he was witnessing the whole time. That stuck out when I read it. Enlightenment as it grows, and it always grows if it is real, eats up and integrates witnessing. There is a period following waking up or the stabilizing of Self Realization, where witnessing everything, seeing the frictionless flow of life and your silent place in it, dominates perception. Freedom! Absence of fear! A great influx of cosmic energy as the Atman or Soul becomes a permanent flame within and shines forth. If you want to stay there for awhile, then others can see your light and respond to it. I'll not go much further into Robin's experience but I think this is where he was during his leading of an alternative spiritual movement. It was 100% genuine regarding the Soul carrying out its function of expansion. As the Atman continues to shine forth, extending one's boundaries, making them less distinct, melding one's identity with that of the Cosmos, the unity between us and others and everything else in our experience becomes more obvious. As the soul continues to radiate outward from deeper and deeper within us, that cosmic energy we become permeates everything. Everything. At that point, the lights seem to go out! Holy shit, what happened? The light we (the personal and Impersonal self) are radiating becomes so pervasive, inside and out, that life is at once transformed, becoming progressively more interesting, captivating and beautiful, while remaining exactly as it was before. So we no longer see the contrast between the light that we are, and the light now everywhere else. We are no longer witnessing, or perhaps the witness has come out to play. There is no longer the longing for *peak* experiences that we used to want, but instead, it is *all* very much better.:-) In order to witness, there has to be something distinct from something else. There has to be the unfettered ;-) bliss of the soul, the personal Being, distinct from everything else, and we are residing in Being, looking out as it were on everything else. People describe witnessing as being so free! so weightless almost, just in a big cloud of bliss, mind almost empty. It is an awesome feeling, but not a complete one. Even the witness has to be transcended in order to for enlightenment to continue, and continue it will. There is no way to put the soul back to sleep once it wakes up, and one Day of Enlightenment lasts a very, very, very long time! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
* Being able to choose one's battles or, more important on this forum, choose to avoid them. Some people cannot. They are so locked into their obsessions and their grudges that they are doomed to a life of perpetual pettiness. * Message View in the Yahoo Web reader. Without it, I might have had to read 237 posts since this year began; with it I bothered to read only 42. You who read them all, or worse got sucked into arguments about them, try to imagine how much pettiness I managed to avoid that you didn't. * Curtis, Susan, Vaj, Steve, Sal, Rick, Alex, Patrick, bhairitu, Marek, azgrey, and a few others, for consis- tently having enough to say that it's worth reading more than the first few words of your posts. * Other forums, on which people still discuss spiritual concepts instead of getting into petty egobattles over them, and feeling that they have to (or even *can*) win those battles. It's a good reminder of what has been lost on FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
* Wind in your face. This, I understand, is a subjective thing. Some people really don't like the wind. Me, I love it, so today is just My Kinda Day in the Netherlands. It's cold, but not overly so -- 8 C / 46 F. But the wind is just tremendous -- a steady 40 mph gale, with gusts up to 70-80 mph. But no rain, so I can spend much of today out walking in it. There's something about a good wind that blows not just at you but -- if you know how to allow it to do so -- *through* you. You put your face into the wind, let go of the self, and allow the wind to just blow it away. Strangely enough, after the wind has blown away all the crap, what's left is a feeling not of emptiness, but of fullness. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
Yeah, you sure avoided a lot of pettiness with that post! Yep, sure did. Not a hint of pettiness about the bestest stuff ever to be thankful for in 2012! For simple simon its all about the crap he perpetuates on...wait for it...FFL... Nothing about the place he lives, or those he knows, his recent *hot* Xmas date, or even the child he pretends to dote over. Nope. Instead his TOP PRIORITY FOR 2012 is regarding his behavior ON THIS INTERNET FORUM. Wow! He must be the unpettiest guy I've ever met! So Curtis, Susan, Vaj, Steve, Sal, Rick, Alex, Patrick, bhairitu, Marek, azgrey, and a few others, I would really like to hear about your things to be thankful for, moving into 2012, and I hope none of you deem FairfieldLife as critical to your future and self-image as our cyber village idiot does. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: * Being able to choose one's battles or, more important on this forum, choose to avoid them. Some people cannot. They are so locked into their obsessions and their grudges that they are doomed to a life of perpetual pettiness. * Message View in the Yahoo Web reader. Without it, I might have had to read 237 posts since this year began; with it I bothered to read only 42. You who read them all, or worse got sucked into arguments about them, try to imagine how much pettiness I managed to avoid that you didn't. * Curtis, Susan, Vaj, Steve, Sal, Rick, Alex, Patrick, bhairitu, Marek, azgrey, and a few others, for consis- tently having enough to say that it's worth reading more than the first few words of your posts. * Other forums, on which people still discuss spiritual concepts instead of getting into petty egobattles over them, and feeling that they have to (or even *can*) win those battles. It's a good reminder of what has been lost on FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
Strangely enough, after the wind has blown away all the crap, what's left is a feeling not of emptiness, but of fullness. Go figure. Um...I hate to tell you this, but that fullness feeling? means you are still full of crap...continue facing the wind please. Give it a good six months. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: * Wind in your face. This, I understand, is a subjective thing. Some people really don't like the wind. Me, I love it, so today is just My Kinda Day in the Netherlands. It's cold, but not overly so -- 8 C / 46 F. But the wind is just tremendous -- a steady 40 mph gale, with gusts up to 70-80 mph. But no rain, so I can spend much of today out walking in it. There's something about a good wind that blows not just at you but -- if you know how to allow it to do so -- *through* you. You put your face into the wind, let go of the self, and allow the wind to just blow it away. Strangely enough, after the wind has blown away all the crap, what's left is a feeling not of emptiness, but of fullness. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
Haha. Wigs. Lemon water, I better get back to drinking that, also. Could balance me, again. haha Judy rules with 49,017. Let's see numerology, 4+9+1+7 = 21 and 2+1 = 3. Number 3. Calculates to Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. There we go! The Mahabharata it is! Yes, Judy, I love the voice of time (the narrator), also. : ) I will dig for one with subtitles later when I have more time, or someone with time could find Episode I with subtitles, it must exist on the net somewhere. Can Susan find time to look for the Mahabharata, between waxing her toes or the morning Vata tea clutch? ; ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip Wow, OK, so FFL is the Mahabharata Part 49,017. Very funny exchange Judy and Obba.  The longest epic poem ever...  Very funny.  She was very beautiful.  Him, I'm not so sure with the wig and all.  Re: The cat video.  Our cat jumped out of my daughter's lap and ran from the room with his tail down; maybe he was giving it a  thumbs down in cat language.   After drinking 10 more cups of water and lemon, J'ai besoin d'aller à la salle de bain.  From: authfriend jstein@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 8:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: I am sorry, Auth. I did not mean to label you as an initiator. Huh?? I'm missing something. You posted the video of a Cat Fight. I assumed you were referring to my disagreement with Susan. Cat fight is a term used to trivialize any disagreement between two women. That seemed very unlike you. A joking cat fight? A joke is very much like me. : ) But your jokes are always funny! I find a cat fight not so trivial. A cat knows what it is doing. A ha ha, on this thread known as Happy new year to everyone!!! (And more love bombing.) No kidding... So this is a love bomb to meow my way to  purring at a thread named so highly as the start of 2012 and to whisper sweet auspicious notes to show how easy it is to take any thread and change the meaning of purpose. :) Sounds good. I don't get where initiator comes into this at all. So I'm confused...you're more than welcome to unconfuse me if you think it's worth it. It is always worth a response to you. I am not near my post count limit! Oh that auto correct (gotta turn that thing off.), I meant instigator, I did not mean to label you as in instigator. (If that appeared what I was doing.) Ohhh, I see. No, that didn't appear to be what you were doing. That I was sorry for...see above sorry and the now existing ones, just passed. Also, I understand that statement was suggestive. That, I apologize for. You are forgiven, my...uh...son or daughter. ;-) If you thought the cat fight video was posted as directed at your response of the thread, heck no, just the view from the start @3:05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwnDC3_fVgM  the ongoing timeless nature of man. Wow, OK, so FFL is the Mahabharata Part 49,017. Love the narrator's voice. Wish there were subtitles... Judy, you are my Durga and no toes to step on yours, in my book. [bow] Nifty! [high-five] Thanks for clarifying. I only placed that there as it was the closest post near the top at the time, to throw a wrench in the spoke of the mountain bikes blazing down Pike's Peak. : )   It was an avatar's view of the most recent posts, without thought of the past, and as you know, there is perception building taking place, people claiming username's reputations are at stake, group building, etc., of others and I clearly see your point of view being asserted as commendable behavior. I know Ravi is joking. Truly joking and playing with mindsets to level the playing field of intelligence to spark creative return. He really has not much ego and that is a fictitous display on FFL. If anyone gets offended by him, that is in their own heads.   I also know the MaskedZebra does the same and in actuality I can see Barry is also a foot stomping funny at this also. Curtis, too, has some funnies, but maybe as a musician, they are sensitive, ya know. You know, Judy, these are all dudes. Dudes have some funny ways of puffing their feathers, sometimes. ; ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxbrL0e_5Hc  : ) Not funny, obba. --- In
[FairfieldLife] Krishnas Song The Gopis Lament
Inspiritional retelling of the lament felt by the Gopis for Krishna! Wonderful too ! http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/krishna-song-the-gopis-lament-inspiritual-quotations/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: * Being able to choose one's battles or, more important on this forum, choose to avoid them. Some people cannot. They are so locked into their obsessions and their grudges that they are doomed to a life of perpetual pettiness. * Message View in the Yahoo Web reader. Without it, I might have had to read 237 posts since this year began; with it I bothered to read only 42. You who read them all, or worse got sucked into arguments about them, try to imagine how much pettiness I managed to avoid that you didn't. * Curtis, Susan, Vaj, Steve, Sal, Rick, Alex, Patrick, bhairitu, Marek, azgrey, and a few others, for consis- tently having enough to say that it's worth reading more than the first few words of your posts. * Other forums, on which people still discuss spiritual concepts instead of getting into petty egobattles over them, and feeling that they have to (or even *can*) win those battles. It's a good reminder of what has been lost on FFL. Post number 49,018 of the battle in the Mahabharata. Exactly, it is how one plays the game, not if they win. lol
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: * Wind in your face. *As apposed to wind from your ass. : ) This, I understand, is a subjective thing. Some people really don't like the wind. Me, I love it, so today is just My Kinda Day in the Netherlands. Yes, wind can be bothersome to an outsider. It's cold, but not overly so -- 8 C / 46 F. But the wind is just tremendous -- a steady 40 mph gale, with gusts up to 70-80 mph. But no rain, so I can spend much of today out walking in it. It is good to walk outside when flatulence prevails, in gales. There's something about a good wind that blows not just at you but -- if you know how to allow it to do so -- *through* you. You put your face into the wind, let go of the self, and allow the wind to just blow it away. Yes, through you is best, there is a hole for that to regulate the amount of flow. Strangely enough, after the wind has blown away all the crap, what's left is a feeling not of emptiness, but of fullness. Go figure. Just what I thought you were talking about, crap. The airy battle can leave you feeling full from the compression of the feces as it leaves, usually making one feel full or not wishing to eat for a while after as to not have to experience this result again. Yeah, go figure.
[FairfieldLife] A Divine Blessing
And reminder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG_ET-kUAuI
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: * Message View in the Yahoo Web reader. Without it, I might have had to read 237 posts since this year began; with it I bothered to read only 42. You who read them all, or worse got sucked into arguments about them, try to imagine how much pettiness I managed to avoid that you didn't. Message View is not to be underappreciated IMO. It's like you're sitting at a nice, cozy bar in front of the fire and someone comes up and tries to engage you in conversation. The first words out of their mouth often tell the story; you are either interested in them and what they are on about in the moment, or you're not. My experi- ence is that if one's original impulse to not to get terribly involved with them, it's almost always a mistake to ignore that impulse. Once you've gotten to know the personalities on FFL, I find that you can tell almost everything you need to know about a post from the Subject line and the first few words of it that you see in Message View. If the person is selling some- thing, you see that in the first few words. If the person is acting out some petty grudge or revenge fantasy, you see that in the first few words, too. Plus, if you've spent any time at all working on your intuition, you can feel the poster's *intent* in writing the post. These last few months I've learned to make a game of Message View. I scan it and try to get a feeling for what each poster is on about in this particular post. If I know their trends here over time, I tend to trust that first impression and often don't bother expanding the post. But if it's a newbie, or someone with a record of having said a few interesting things in the past, I click on the post anyway, to see how it relates to the impression of it I gleaned from its first few words. I find that my first impressions are rarely wrong. I find this an interesting exercise, and recommend it to those who might also find it interesting. But if you enjoy reading every word of every post, or even sadder, feel that you should or have to, I wish you well with that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: * Message View in the Yahoo Web reader. Without it, I might have had to read 237 posts since this year began; with it I bothered to read only 42. You who read them all, or worse got sucked into arguments about them, try to imagine how much pettiness I managed to avoid that you didn't. Message View is not to be underappreciated IMO. It's like you're sitting at a nice, cozy bar in front of the fire and someone comes up and tries to engage you in conversation. The first words out of their mouth often tell the story; you are either interested in them and what they are on about in the moment, or you're not. My experi- ence is that if one's original impulse to not to get terribly involved with them, it's almost always a mistake to ignore that impulse. Once you've gotten to know the personalities on FFL, I find that you can tell almost everything you need to know about a post from the Subject line and the first few words of it that you see in Message View. If the person is selling some- thing, you see that in the first few words. If the person is acting out some petty grudge or revenge fantasy, you see that in the first few words, too. Plus, if you've spent any time at all working on your intuition, you can feel the poster's *intent* in writing the post. These last few months I've learned to make a game of Message View. I scan it and try to get a feeling for what each poster is on about in this particular post. If I know their trends here over time, I tend to trust that first impression and often don't bother expanding the post. But if it's a newbie, or someone with a record of having said a few interesting things in the past, I click on the post anyway, to see how it relates to the impression of it I gleaned from its first few words. I find that my first impressions are rarely wrong. I find this an interesting exercise, and recommend it to those who might also find it interesting. But if you enjoy reading every word of every post, or even sadder, feel that you should or have to, I wish you well with that. Hey, thanks for sharing, and authoring, the obvious. : ) Sometimes first impressions can be deceiving. I remember a young man who used to annoy the shit out of me while working at an unspecified place. I was in my teenage years (and not far past that now), and the young man drove me insane with his horrible jokes, and comebacks and he was around the corner at every minute when I would walk through a swinging door. His awareness was sharp as he did his duty at the unspecified place of business. A year or two of this about drove me crazy, but he was nice. One day, he asked me to go to a show with him (he had a girlfriend he loved, who I never met, but saw pictures of her in his wallet when he showed me.) thinking he was trying to pick up on me all the time, and I was repulsed by his behavioral nerdy-ness, I said yes, reluctantly.I went with him to a music show, and we had a blast and he did not try to touch me, or kiss me, or anything weird or kinky. My experience with all the other young men at that time had always been my grabbing for the door handle(if I was not interested), when they would leap their bodies at me when they got horny. Anyways, he and I, just had a great time together. I wished I still had contact with him, he was a really nice guy with horrible joking manner and the joking manner became less annoying once I saw past what I thought my intuition was telling me in the first place. He was a gentleman and I am thankful for ever having met him, as a friend. I never felt uncomfortable with him when we went to do fun things on a regular basis, afterwards. So there, Turq.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
turquoiseb: Other forums, on which people still discuss spiritual concepts... When the student is ready, the financial aid specialist will appear. Subject: Test Author: Sanford Manley Newsgroups: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy Date: January 3, 2012 7:30 am http://www.usenetmessages.com/threads.php?c=alternativeid=2429p=0 alt.buddha.short.fat.guy http://groups.google.com/group/alt.buddha.short.fat.guy/topics?hl=enln\ k
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
futur.musik: ...you sure avoided a lot of pettiness with that post! Yep, sure did. Not a hint of pettiness about the bestest stuff ever to be thankful for in 2012! It is difficult for Rama's students to hold their heads high and declare themselves as his students. I have no such reservations. -- Barry Wright Subject: Barry Wright's eulogy to Freddie Lenz http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/browse_thread/thread/f4a1d9b\ 7f16f766b/db2559672db6a1a1?hl=enq=rama,+lenz From: Andrew A. Skolnick Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, sci.skeptic Date: 1998/10/25
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's like you're sitting at a nice, cozy bar
turquoiseb: I find that you can tell almost everything you need to know about a post from the Subject line and the first few words of it that you see in Message View... = __o \`, = (*) % (*)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
This is a fascinating post and, if I have more time soon I would like to address this and Judy's comment on my post. When this process happens, there can be a lot of disorientation. Enlightenment can be like being sucked into a black hole as all of your personal stuff is dissembled. Instinctively one hangs onto this stuff of our ignorance, but the process in not under personal control. We hang on because there is resistance to having these past knots in us see the light of day. Maharishi and other teachers have said this experience proceeds differently for different people, so one person's experience cannot be mapped onto another's as if using a template. Perhaps this is a measure of remaining 'stresses' in the system. Robin's case is really intriguing. Futur.musik, this was a really cool post; it helped illuminate what's happening to me by providing an alternate manner of expressing it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: Hi Judy, you wrote, You do understand that Robin does not claim to be enlightened and is not seeking enlightenment, that he thinks it's a snare and a delusion, that he believes he was enlightened decades ago and has made a huge effort since then to de-enlighten himself. After reading a lot of what Robin writes about enlightenment and his experience being enlightened, he says he was witnessing the whole time. That stuck out when I read it. Enlightenment as it grows, and it always grows if it is real, eats up and integrates witnessing. There is a period following waking up or the stabilizing of Self Realization, where witnessing everything, seeing the frictionless flow of life and your silent place in it, dominates perception. Freedom! Absence of fear! A great influx of cosmic energy as the Atman or Soul becomes a permanent flame within and shines forth. If you want to stay there for awhile, then others can see your light and respond to it. I'll not go much further into Robin's experience but I think this is where he was during his leading of an alternative spiritual movement. It was 100% genuine regarding the Soul carrying out its function of expansion. As the Atman continues to shine forth, extending one's boundaries, making them less distinct, melding one's identity with that of the Cosmos, the unity between us and others and everything else in our experience becomes more obvious. As the soul continues to radiate outward from deeper and deeper within us, that cosmic energy we become permeates everything. Everything. At that point, the lights seem to go out! Holy shit, what happened? The light we (the personal and Impersonal self) are radiating becomes so pervasive, inside and out, that life is at once transformed, becoming progressively more interesting, captivating and beautiful, while remaining exactly as it was before. So we no longer see the contrast between the light that we are, and the light now everywhere else. We are no longer witnessing, or perhaps the witness has come out to play. There is no longer the longing for *peak* experiences that we used to want, but instead, it is *all* very much better.:-) In order to witness, there has to be something distinct from something else. There has to be the unfettered ;-) bliss of the soul, the personal Being, distinct from everything else, and we are residing in Being, looking out as it were on everything else. People describe witnessing as being so free! so weightless almost, just in a big cloud of bliss, mind almost empty. It is an awesome feeling, but not a complete one. Even the witness has to be transcended in order to for enlightenment to continue, and continue it will. There is no way to put the soul back to sleep once it wakes up, and one Day of Enlightenment lasts a very, very, very long time! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global 2012 fly with Music in the air and kiss with Gustav Klimt
(Tout le plaisir était le mien--hihi) Jâétais heureux de le faire http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/300289 message/300289 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Merudanda, Oh mon dieu, c'est magnifique! What an extraordinary and fabulous 23 minutes the flying in air concert video - the girl with the red balloon - can it start any better? (Funny, that 10 minutes into it, the same Klimt painting as featured in the first piece shows up.) Oh, so beautiful, so very wonderful. Merci beaucoup. Je vous remercie de tout coeur. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Global 2012 fly with Music in the air and kiss with Gustav Klimt Was waiting to find something special for Yifu'sartistic (Klimt) and Judy's musical senses as well as for all lovers of classicallight musicand lovers of TMO'S futuristic view (with some charming flying Siddhas ) Happy Global 2012 from Vienna kissed by Gustav Klimt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rucMT4j2saQfeature=related Music in the air with flying Siddhas ( guest from around the world) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pobLpzlXl9Ifeature=relatedAre that saying hello or kissing good bye? New Year's Concert of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra - a traditionalannual concert of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra January 1 in Vienna,Austria The repertoire of the concert, with few exceptions, Austrian light music of the late XVIII - XIX centuries : Viennese waltzes, polkas, mazurkas, marches Strauss family (Johann Strauss (father), Johann Strauss (son), Josef Strauss and Eduard Strauss), and Mozart, Schubert, Josef Lanner, Josef Helmesbergera, Otto Nicolai, Emil von Reznicheka, Franz von Suppe Performed etc. usually 12 works with a break after the sixth number. For the main part is followed by three numbers for the encore: a fast polka, waltz by Strauss, then his son, The Blue Danube and finally Radetzky March by Strauss's father, in the execution of which the audience applauded by tradition tattoo, and the conductor turns to face her and conducts these round of applause. The total duration of the concert for about two and a half hours. New Year concert was first held at the new 1940 (not 1 January, as all subsequent years, and 31 December). For 40 years, led by Austrian conductor concerts, including the 1955-1979 years. - Concertmaster of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra Willi Boskovsky. Since 1987 every year for the concert are invited one of the most famous conductors in the world. Flowers to decorate the concert hall of the Vienna Music Society - annual gift of the Italian city of San Remo
[FairfieldLife] Woman sues Honda over bogus mileage claim on hybrid
Woman takes unique road to sue Honda over mileage By LINDA DEUTSCH | AP 20 mins ago TORRANCE, Calif. (AP) A woman who expected her 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid to be her dream car wants Honda to pay for not delivering the high mileage it promised. But rather than joining other owners in a class-action lawsuit, she is going solo in small claims court, an unusual move that could offer a bigger payout if it doesn't backfire. A trial is set for Tuesday afternoon in Torrance, where American Honda Motor Co. has its West Coast headquarters. Heather Peters says her car never came close to getting the promised 50 miles per gallon, and as its battery deteriorated, it was getting only 30 mpg. She wants Honda to pay for her trouble and the extra money she spent on gas. Peters, a former lawyer who long ago gave up her bar card, has devised a unique legal vehicle to drive Honda into court a small claims suit that could cost the company up to $10,000 in her case and every other individual case filed in the same manner. If other claimants follow her lead, she estimates Honda could be forced to pay $2 billion in damages. No high-priced lawyers are involved and the process is streamlined. I would not be surprised if she won, said Richard Cupp Jr., who teaches product liability law at Pepperdine University. The judge will have a lot of discretion and the evidentiary standards are relaxed in small claims court. A win for Peters could encourage others to take this simplified route, he said. There's an old saying among lawyers, Cupp said. If you want real justice, go to small claims court. But he questioned whether her move, supported by publicity on the Internet and elsewhere, would start a groundswell of such suits. He suggested that few people would want to expend the time and energy that Peters has put into her suit when the potential payoff is as little as a few thousand dollars. Peters opted out of a series of class-action lawsuits filed on behalf of similar Honda hybrid owners when she saw a proposed settlement would give owners no more than $200 cash and a rebate of $500 or $1,000 to purchase a new Honda. The settlement would give trial lawyers $8.5 million, Peters said. I was shocked, she said. I wrote to Honda and said I would take $7,500, which was then the limit on small claims in California. It is going up to $10,000 in 2012. She said she also offered to trade her hybrid for a comparable car with a manual transmission, the only thing she trusted at that point. I wrote the letter and I said, 'If you don't respond, I will file a suit in small claims court.' I gave them my phone number, she said. They never called, and I filed the suit. She said she also sent emails to top executives at Honda with no response. Aaron Jacoby, a Los Angeles attorney who heads the automotive industry group at the Arent Fox law firm, said Peters' strategy, while intriguing, is unlikely to change the course of class-action litigation. In the class-action, the potential claimants don't have to do anything, Jacoby said. It's designed to be an efficient way for a court to handle multiple claims of the same type. He also questioned her criticism of class-action lawyers for the fees they receive. Jacoby, who handles such cases, said lawyers who take on the multiple clients involved do extensive work sometimes spanning years and are not in it just for money. They're representing the underdog and they believe they are performing a public duty, he said. Many of these people could not get lawyers to represent them individually. American Honda's offices were closed for the holidays and no one could be reached for comment. Peters said the company has tried five times to delay the trial but each effort was rebuffed. The upside of Peters' unusual move, she says, is that litigants are not allowed to have lawyers argue in small claims court in California. This means any award will not be diluted by attorney's fees. Honda would have to appoint a non-lawyer employee to argue its side in court. If I prevail and get $10,000, they have 200,000 of these cars out there. That's a potential payout of $2 billion, she said. While she doubts that all other owners will take the same route, she suggests the penalty could be substantial for the company if a large percentage of the owners file individually. A judge in San Diego County is due to rule in March on whether to approve Honda's latest class action settlement offer. Members of the class have until Feb. 11 to accept or decline the settlement. Peters has launched a website, DontSettleWithHonda.org, urging others to take the small claims route.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Global 2012 fly with Music in the air and kiss with Gustav Klimt
(Tout le plaisir e'tait le mien--hihi) J'etais heureux de le faire http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/300289 message/300289 message/300289 message/300289 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Merudanda, Oh mon dieu, c'est magnifique! What an extraordinary and fabulous 23 minutes the flying in air concert video - the girl with the red balloon - can it start any better? (Funny, that 10 minutes into it, the same Klimt painting as featured in the first piece shows up.) Oh, so beautiful, so very wonderful. Merci beaucoup. Je vous remercie de tout coeur. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Global 2012 fly with Music in the air and kiss with Gustav Klimt Was waiting to find something special for Yifu'sartistic (Klimt) and Judy's musical senses as well as for all lovers of classicallight musicand lovers of TMO'S futuristic view (with some charming flying Siddhas ) Happy Global 2012 from Vienna kissed by Gustav Klimt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rucMT4j2saQfeature=related Music in the air with flying Siddhas ( guest from around the world) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pobLpzlXl9Ifeature=relatedAre that saying hello or kissing good bye? New Year's Concert of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra - a traditionalannual concert of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra January 1 in Vienna,Austria The repertoire of the concert, with few exceptions, Austrian light music of the late XVIII - XIX centuries : Viennese waltzes, polkas, mazurkas, marches Strauss family (Johann Strauss (father), Johann Strauss (son), Josef Strauss and Eduard Strauss), and Mozart, Schubert, Josef Lanner, Josef Helmesbergera, Otto Nicolai, Emil von Reznicheka, Franz von Suppe Performed etc. usually 12 works with a break after the sixth number. For the main part is followed by three numbers for the encore: a fast polka, waltz by Strauss, then his son, The Blue Danube and finally Radetzky March by Strauss's father, in the execution of which the audience applauded by tradition tattoo, and the conductor turns to face her and conducts these round of applause. The total duration of the concert for about two and a half hours. New Year concert was first held at the new 1940 (not 1 January, as all subsequent years, and 31 December). For 40 years, led by Austrian conductor concerts, including the 1955-1979 years. - Concertmaster of the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra Willi Boskovsky. Since 1987 every year for the concert are invited one of the most famous conductors in the world. Flowers to decorate the concert hall of the Vienna Music Society - annual gift of the Italian city of San Remo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Woman sues Honda over bogus mileage claim on hybrid
This is great! This is what clever lawyers are really for. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u anitaoaks4u@... wrote: Woman takes unique road to sue Honda over mileage By LINDA DEUTSCH | AP 20 mins ago TORRANCE, Calif. (AP) A woman who expected her 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid to be her dream car wants Honda to pay for not delivering the high mileage it promised. But rather than joining other owners in a class-action lawsuit, she is going solo in small claims court, an unusual move that could offer a bigger payout if it doesn't backfire. A trial is set for Tuesday afternoon in Torrance, where American Honda Motor Co. has its West Coast headquarters. Heather Peters says her car never came close to getting the promised 50 miles per gallon, and as its battery deteriorated, it was getting only 30 mpg. She wants Honda to pay for her trouble and the extra money she spent on gas. Peters, a former lawyer who long ago gave up her bar card, has devised a unique legal vehicle to drive Honda into court a small claims suit that could cost the company up to $10,000 in her case and every other individual case filed in the same manner. If other claimants follow her lead, she estimates Honda could be forced to pay $2 billion in damages. No high-priced lawyers are involved and the process is streamlined. I would not be surprised if she won, said Richard Cupp Jr., who teaches product liability law at Pepperdine University. The judge will have a lot of discretion and the evidentiary standards are relaxed in small claims court. A win for Peters could encourage others to take this simplified route, he said. There's an old saying among lawyers, Cupp said. If you want real justice, go to small claims court. But he questioned whether her move, supported by publicity on the Internet and elsewhere, would start a groundswell of such suits. He suggested that few people would want to expend the time and energy that Peters has put into her suit when the potential payoff is as little as a few thousand dollars. Peters opted out of a series of class-action lawsuits filed on behalf of similar Honda hybrid owners when she saw a proposed settlement would give owners no more than $200 cash and a rebate of $500 or $1,000 to purchase a new Honda. The settlement would give trial lawyers $8.5 million, Peters said. I was shocked, she said. I wrote to Honda and said I would take $7,500, which was then the limit on small claims in California. It is going up to $10,000 in 2012. She said she also offered to trade her hybrid for a comparable car with a manual transmission, the only thing she trusted at that point. I wrote the letter and I said, 'If you don't respond, I will file a suit in small claims court.' I gave them my phone number, she said. They never called, and I filed the suit. She said she also sent emails to top executives at Honda with no response. Aaron Jacoby, a Los Angeles attorney who heads the automotive industry group at the Arent Fox law firm, said Peters' strategy, while intriguing, is unlikely to change the course of class-action litigation. In the class-action, the potential claimants don't have to do anything, Jacoby said. It's designed to be an efficient way for a court to handle multiple claims of the same type. He also questioned her criticism of class-action lawyers for the fees they receive. Jacoby, who handles such cases, said lawyers who take on the multiple clients involved do extensive work sometimes spanning years and are not in it just for money. They're representing the underdog and they believe they are performing a public duty, he said. Many of these people could not get lawyers to represent them individually. American Honda's offices were closed for the holidays and no one could be reached for comment. Peters said the company has tried five times to delay the trial but each effort was rebuffed. The upside of Peters' unusual move, she says, is that litigants are not allowed to have lawyers argue in small claims court in California. This means any award will not be diluted by attorney's fees. Honda would have to appoint a non-lawyer employee to argue its side in court. If I prevail and get $10,000, they have 200,000 of these cars out there. That's a potential payout of $2 billion, she said. While she doubts that all other owners will take the same route, she suggests the penalty could be substantial for the company if a large percentage of the owners file individually. A judge in San Diego County is due to rule in March on whether to approve Honda's latest class action settlement offer. Members of the class have until Feb. 11 to accept or decline the settlement. Peters has launched a website, DontSettleWithHonda.org, urging others to take the small claims route.
[FairfieldLife] Star Trek: The Sexed Generation
LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReOw_2f4lpYfeature=results_mainplaynext=1list=PLA856AF51F5DD4007
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Snipped the dancing routine, sooo Nancy Grace in the groaning 3 inch heels. But this is the good part cuz her refusal to accept that she has been called out was just predictable. Here is where I start hearing the music from the start of the twilight zone in my head. It's amazing how Curtis engineered all this to make himself appear to be the totally blameless victim by a series of moves that's so convoluted nobody gets what he's done except those he's done it *to*. And not for the first time, either. That's one thing at which he's better than anyone here. And this is not the first time you have accused me of such a bizarre thing. And on a public board no less where we all read all the posts if we want to. And I am able to hide my deviousness from everyone but Judy, how can that be? Oh I know, it has to do with her inflated sense of her perceptive powers to detect evil, beyond all other posters reading the same posts. Let me defend myself from this twisted claim of special powers of deceit in plan sight. Ravi was spinning a tale of how he has no sexual desire from his self proclaimed whatever state for the umpteenth time, while describing the old guy in the club behavior I get to see on a regular basis during performances where alcohol is served. The only people I hear talking about having no sexual desire uninvited, and relevant to nothing that applies to us, are preachers running a I'm too special for human feelings like Jerry Falwell. In the end they are usually revealed to be hypocrites who were compelled to make their denials because they are selling a story about themselves. Like Ravi is. And I would have just let it pass but he also called me dishonest for the millionth time with zero evidence. So I commented on how he appeared to me. Then Ravi claimed that he wasn't really buying drinks for an underage girl which was his original story. I am guessing that he ended up looking a bit loseresque getting worked by a Tom Sawyer in hot pants and a tank top. So he tried to cover his tracks but once I smelled a rat I didn't buy his denial. I think he really did go to a club and have a young girl work him for free drinks before telling him she needed to go to the bathroom and run out of the club giggling with her friends full of Ravi financed liquor. So he flew off the handle and called me names, some of which are out of line so I let him know I felt that way. I tried to explain to him the deeper context of his slurs and how they really don't belong here. Labeling someone's behavior as desperate or his denials of having human feelings like the rest of us is not the same thing as being called a retard, (the N word of the disabled community) or an unhinged assault being called someone's bitch, which among men is rarely used face to face because it is an invitation to fight. Online it is extreme trollish behavior. Then he doubled down again and lied about why I left the movement. Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? I was reminded of her posturing against what she considered unfair posts and how she castigated me for not stepping in to scold other posters who attack her. I remember the rash of shit she has flung my way concerning me not busyboding myself about what other people say to her. I realized that she was really in the exact situation where if she has an ounce of the integrity and ethical values she bloviates around here like it is her special badge of honor, she would say in her I love hot Ravi manor, hey Ravi, perhaps you could turn it down a notch, some of us read here. But no. And I frankly don't care if she didn't, and don't need her to come to my aid for a mouthy dude who calls other men names while out of their reach. But I notice the hypocrisy and I called her on it and asking her to get off my case for doing the exact same thing, choosing my battles here, and letting us fight our own. And without the rash of hypocritical shit, that would be a reasonable position that I endorse here. But then she chose to enter the Twilight Zone to try to slip out of getting called on bullshit. It was me who made Ravi use derogatory terms for mentally disabled people, lie about why I left the movement, and lay into a demeaning tirade. One that other posters noticed was over the trollish line. But not Judy. Judy saw secret Curtis deviousness at work orchestrating Ravi's bad behavior from his secret lair. And that defending myself from an unwarranted meltdown attack is because I've been fighting a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
Hi Obba, I like your story. I could tell many like that from when I was younger (not women pestering me and finally dating them (ha-ha), but having my mind made up until I engaged and actually learned something about the other person, and myself). My experience is that intuition often works, but that intuition in support of judging others unfavorably rarely does. I call it a variant of magical thinking, or alternatively, arguing for one's limitations. I can understand truly having no interest in someone else. What I don't get is those who endlessly and insufferably letting us know how they only saw the upper quarter of the back of the person's head, and by that figured out X, Y and Zed. Why the game of footsie all the time? Such tentative social behavior seems synonymous with the same attitude spiritually. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: * Message View in the Yahoo Web reader. Without it, I might have had to read 237 posts since this year began; with it I bothered to read only 42. You who read them all, or worse got sucked into arguments about them, try to imagine how much pettiness I managed to avoid that you didn't. Message View is not to be underappreciated IMO. It's like you're sitting at a nice, cozy bar in front of the fire and someone comes up and tries to engage you in conversation. The first words out of their mouth often tell the story; you are either interested in them and what they are on about in the moment, or you're not. My experi- ence is that if one's original impulse to not to get terribly involved with them, it's almost always a mistake to ignore that impulse. Once you've gotten to know the personalities on FFL, I find that you can tell almost everything you need to know about a post from the Subject line and the first few words of it that you see in Message View. If the person is selling some- thing, you see that in the first few words. If the person is acting out some petty grudge or revenge fantasy, you see that in the first few words, too. Plus, if you've spent any time at all working on your intuition, you can feel the poster's *intent* in writing the post. These last few months I've learned to make a game of Message View. I scan it and try to get a feeling for what each poster is on about in this particular post. If I know their trends here over time, I tend to trust that first impression and often don't bother expanding the post. But if it's a newbie, or someone with a record of having said a few interesting things in the past, I click on the post anyway, to see how it relates to the impression of it I gleaned from its first few words. I find that my first impressions are rarely wrong. I find this an interesting exercise, and recommend it to those who might also find it interesting. But if you enjoy reading every word of every post, or even sadder, feel that you should or have to, I wish you well with that. Hey, thanks for sharing, and authoring, the obvious. : ) Sometimes first impressions can be deceiving. I remember a young man who used to annoy the shit out of me while working at an unspecified place. I was in my teenage years (and not far past that now), and the young man drove me insane with his horrible jokes, and comebacks and he was around the corner at every minute when I would walk through a swinging door. His awareness was sharp as he did his duty at the unspecified place of business. A year or two of this about drove me crazy, but he was nice. One day, he asked me to go to a show with him (he had a girlfriend he loved, who I never met, but saw pictures of her in his wallet when he showed me.) thinking he was trying to pick up on me all the time, and I was repulsed by his behavioral nerdy-ness, I said yes, reluctantly.I went with him to a music show, and we had a blast and he did not try to touch me, or kiss me, or anything weird or kinky. My experience with all the other young men at that time had always been my grabbing for the door handle(if I was not interested), when they would leap their bodies at me when they got horny. Anyways, he and I, just had a great time together. I wished I still had contact with him, he was a really nice guy with horrible joking manner and the joking manner became less annoying once I saw past what I thought my intuition was telling me in the first place. He was a gentleman and I am thankful for ever having met him, as a friend. I never felt uncomfortable with him when we went to do fun things on a regular basis, afterwards. So there, Turq.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Out of all of this I am looking forward to a 2012 with zero you need to scold other people for things they say to me posts. Zero. As much as I enjoyed your rant, dude, I'd have to say that this is about as likely to happen as world peace being achieved through butt-bouncing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Star Trek: The Sexed Generation
LOL indeed. Jean Luc's iconic Make it so takes on new, and disturbing, meanings. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReOw_2f4lpYfeature=results_mainplaynext=1list=PLA856AF51F5DD4007
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
Scene: Hallway outside Barry's room, the sound of the TV in Barry's room has been loud all evening, interspersed by laughter and ...personal noises. Roomie walks into hallway from the living room. Roomie: Hey Barr, what'cha doin' in there? Barry: Meditating on compassion, dipshit! Now, go away! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Out of all of this I am looking forward to a 2012 with zero you need to scold other people for things they say to me posts. Zero. As much as I enjoyed your rant, dude, I'd have to say that this is about as likely to happen as world peace being achieved through butt-bouncing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
On 01/03/2012 02:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote: * Wind in your face. This, I understand, is a subjective thing. Some people really don't like the wind. Me, I love it, so today is just My Kinda Day in the Netherlands. It's cold, but not overly so -- 8 C / 46 F. But the wind is just tremendous -- a steady 40 mph gale, with gusts up to 70-80 mph. But no rain, so I can spend much of today out walking in it. There's something about a good wind that blows not just at you but -- if you know how to allow it to do so -- *through* you. You put your face into the wind, let go of the self, and allow the wind to just blow it away. Strangely enough, after the wind has blown away all the crap, what's left is a feeling not of emptiness, but of fullness. Go figure. Right now it is 45 F in sunny California and it has gotten down into the 20s the past couple weeks. We are seeing a deterioration in the climate where there are becoming two seasons instead of four. We seem to be developing a long winter and as milder summer. A friend in Seattle I talked to the other day is noticing the same thing there. Of course California houses are built for cooling not so much for heating and there will be more expensive heating bills this winter. And there has been a lack of precipitation to the extent that the ski areas up in the Sierras don't have any snow. But then they may get dumped on later this month and have snow until June.
[FairfieldLife] Hello again
I had unsubscribed for a week or so, after much confusion, mis-attributions, snipping and editing context away of posts of mine, so I found it a bit hard to untangle all this, not having the time, some people here seem to have. Amongst other things, I thought it was time for me to come out of the shadow, I was accused that I couldn't say things straight in their face, and also inspired by those videos of Ravi, which I really like, as it gives a face to him, and makes me overlook some of the things he says. So, here it is, my video, done this morning, just with an improvised talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aHLZDqqQaE And I wish you all a happy new year, with a lot of kiss, kiss ;x an 3 3
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things to be thankful for, now that 2012 is here
True, it is overcast and foggy today, 47 here, though it was 78 degrees and sunny on New Years Day, and just a little cooler on NYE. We went over to Santa Cruz for lunch, walked the wharf, saw lots of sea lions, beautiful day!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 01/03/2012 02:17 AM, turquoiseb wrote: * Wind in your face. This, I understand, is a subjective thing. Some people really don't like the wind. Me, I love it, so today is just My Kinda Day in the Netherlands. It's cold, but not overly so -- 8 C / 46 F. But the wind is just tremendous -- a steady 40 mph gale, with gusts up to 70-80 mph. But no rain, so I can spend much of today out walking in it. There's something about a good wind that blows not just at you but -- if you know how to allow it to do so -- *through* you. You put your face into the wind, let go of the self, and allow the wind to just blow it away. Strangely enough, after the wind has blown away all the crap, what's left is a feeling not of emptiness, but of fullness. Go figure. Right now it is 45 F in sunny California and it has gotten down into the 20s the past couple weeks. We are seeing a deterioration in the climate where there are becoming two seasons instead of four. We seem to be developing a long winter and as milder summer. A friend in Seattle I talked to the other day is noticing the same thing there. Of course California houses are built for cooling not so much for heating and there will be more expensive heating bills this winter. And there has been a lack of precipitation to the extent that the ski areas up in the Sierras don't have any snow. But then they may get dumped on later this month and have snow until June.
[FairfieldLife] Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
They're apparently trying to assert its military might in the region. But the Americans have always maintained a policy of carrying a big stick to deter any potential aggressors. As such, the US Navy will be there no matter what the Iranians say. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/pentagon-pushes-back-iranian-warnings-u-aircraft-carrier-165850384.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: My history in the movement was an open book. Do you think with all the teachers who weighed in on ALT TM someone would have missed that I had not left the movement voluntarily? It would never have been mentioned in articles quoting TM officials rebutting me? So why don't you simply tell us what went on Curtis ? That would clear up a lot of friction that has been going on lately. Did you play hillbilly music late at night on a course, dally with blondes ? Let us know ! I did perform Delta blues in the golden room of Seelisberg for my TTC. But it was not considered hillbilly since my course participants were educated in the history of music. My leaving the movement was a result of re-evaluating Maharishi's interpretation of the experiences I have having with his program, and shifting from the perspective that he knew what he was talking about to, not so much. The 23 years of pursuing more information has not changed my conclusion back then, it has deepened it. So I walked away but continue to be interested in meditation states as well as the wacky world of the movement's pageantry of self importance. I hope that clears things up a bit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: My history in the movement was an open book. Do you think with all the teachers who weighed in on ALT TM someone would have missed that I had not left the movement voluntarily? It would never have been mentioned in articles quoting TM officials rebutting me? So why don't you simply tell us what went on Curtis ? That would clear up a lot of friction that has been going on lately. Did you play hillbilly music late at night on a course, dally with blondes ? Let us know ! I did perform Delta blues in the golden room of Seelisberg for my TTC. But it was not considered hillbilly since my course participants were educated in the history of music. Still the humourless guy. My leaving the movement was a result of re-evaluating Maharishi's interpretation of the experiences I have having with his program, and shifting from the perspective that he knew what he was talking about to, not so much. The 23 years of pursuing more information has not changed my conclusion back then, it has deepened it. snip I hope that clears things up a bit. Not really. It doesn't clear up the rumour that you got kicked out and which you confirmed earlier.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: They're apparently trying to assert its military might in the region. But the Americans have always maintained a policy of carrying a big stick to deter any potential aggressors. As such, the US Navy will be there no matter what the Iranians say. We know this already. The americans are always ready for another war anywhere on this planet regardless of the human or financial loss. They will never learn. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/pentagon-pushes-back-iranian-warnings-u-aircraft-carrier-165850384.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
Jim, this is a very lovely description of your experience; many thanks. Whether it has anything to do with Robin's comment about witnessing, or the accuracy of his assertion that he was in Unity, I couldn't say, obviously; he'd have to address that himself. I think I found the post in which he made the remark you cite--where he says he was a pure witness to all that was happening around me. I think it's *conceivable* that you may be overinterpreting it as a very specific technical description of his experience, using Maharishi's term, when he was actually referring to something broader and more general about his relationship to the drama taking place with regard to his cult and the court cases and all. IOW, I'm not sure that remark is the smoking gun that disproves his conviction that he was in Unity. I could very well be wrong; I just mention this as a possibility. As I say, he'd have to address it himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: Hi Judy, you wrote, You do understand that Robin does not claim to be enlightened and is not seeking enlightenment, that he thinks it's a snare and a delusion, that he believes he was enlightened decades ago and has made a huge effort since then to de-enlighten himself. After reading a lot of what Robin writes about enlightenment and his experience being enlightened, he says he was witnessing the whole time. That stuck out when I read it. Enlightenment as it grows, and it always grows if it is real, eats up and integrates witnessing. There is a period following waking up or the stabilizing of Self Realization, where witnessing everything, seeing the frictionless flow of life and your silent place in it, dominates perception. Freedom! Absence of fear! A great influx of cosmic energy as the Atman or Soul becomes a permanent flame within and shines forth. If you want to stay there for awhile, then others can see your light and respond to it. I'll not go much further into Robin's experience but I think this is where he was during his leading of an alternative spiritual movement. It was 100% genuine regarding the Soul carrying out its function of expansion. As the Atman continues to shine forth, extending one's boundaries, making them less distinct, melding one's identity with that of the Cosmos, the unity between us and others and everything else in our experience becomes more obvious. As the soul continues to radiate outward from deeper and deeper within us, that cosmic energy we become permeates everything. Everything. At that point, the lights seem to go out! Holy shit, what happened? The light we (the personal and Impersonal self) are radiating becomes so pervasive, inside and out, that life is at once transformed, becoming progressively more interesting, captivating and beautiful, while remaining exactly as it was before. So we no longer see the contrast between the light that we are, and the light now everywhere else. We are no longer witnessing, or perhaps the witness has come out to play. There is no longer the longing for *peak* experiences that we used to want, but instead, it is *all* very much better.:-) In order to witness, there has to be something distinct from something else. There has to be the unfettered ;-) bliss of the soul, the personal Being, distinct from everything else, and we are residing in Being, looking out as it were on everything else. People describe witnessing as being so free! so weightless almost, just in a big cloud of bliss, mind almost empty. It is an awesome feeling, but not a complete one. Even the witness has to be transcended in order to for enlightenment to continue, and continue it will. There is no way to put the soul back to sleep once it wakes up, and one Day of Enlightenment lasts a very, very, very long time! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
Thanks for picking up on this Edg. Comments below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Curtis, I believe in the Absolute. I'd even say that I KNOW the Absolute -- except that that would seem as if I'm claiming enlightenment. But, intellectually speaking, I have conceptualized about the Absolute in my writings about Advaita so much that, well, I've sorta mood made myself into a hard-wired nervous system prone to a belief in it. To know that this involves belief is my idea of enlightenment. We all have these states from meditation. The question is what do we make of them, what do they mean. I have no problem with someone interpreting them through the filter of the East, but I do have a problem with people claiming that this gives them an epistemological upper hand from my own less spiritual view of what it means. In other words we are both interpreting our experiences the best we can. That is pretty much all we ever do. No one gets a pass from that process into ultimate surety in my view. The personal God, maybe, only maybe, I believe. I like the Sefirot in that it portrays a divine personality that, yep, if I were to author up God, that would do as a start. I've never heard a version of him, no matter how abstract that seems to improve on just the miracle of life itself. That blows me away without the overlay thoery. But as I said, the abstract belief is not a problem for most atheists. And it is not the majority view of God on this planet. Most people believe he wants you to wear certain hats and not eat something or do eat something on certain days. I believe in scientific facts too. Check. Knowing that it is a method of change where facts can be proven wrong at any time and is therefore not the kind of absolute knowledge claimed by spiritual traditions. I like your key distinction in this debate, but I ask this additional question: Does the quantum foam has any causal relationship with materiality? I hope you don't view it as a cop out for me to say that I am not trained in the math needed to really understand these concepts outside a poetic sense of how the words feel to me. If it does, then everything that ever happened is echoing still in the subtle precinctsor as I would frame it: omniscience. I think you are engaged in an artistic endeavor. I'm all for it as long as we say upfront, this ain't physics, this is a song I wrote and I dig how the words sound together. If I have misjudged your own background in physics please forgive me. Maybe the quantum foam is the akashic records. But I don't think anyone can tap into that database easily unless they're right there at the ritam level of quiescence. Probably one person out of a billion can -- a theory. I haven't seen anyone come close to demonstrating that they have such access to the mythical akashic records and it would be pretty easy to prove. They could start with a cancer cure that doesn't kill you or hurt so much. But the Absolute, by definition, must be transcendental to even the quantum foam, so my money's on the quantum foam being the body of, say, Vishnu. Let me get a baseline rolling and you can rap away. If you are guna break out the Vedic gods we might have some great material for a song. These days, to me, silence is really there, and I'm not defining it as where some thing audible isn't. It may just be a conceit of my intellect, but I see a vast distinction in this regard. And, sorry to come off goofy here, but I swear I can know silence all the time if I but, well, stop what I'm doing/thinking and even breathing, but for a nonce, just a nonce, just a glance, and there it is. See? It's not that I'm in an all time reality of basking in silence, but man-o-man, it sure is easy to hear it as if it were a soundtrack of an open mike in a perfectly quiet and huge room. Oh, that's coming off as better than I mean to portray myself, but I'm something like this description. It's as if reality is sheet music in which the spaces between the inked notes are easily, but seldom, noticed. This is paydirt for me Edg. Any of us who have done the time with meditation practices have this experience right? I know I do. The question is how do we understand what this level of our mind means? IMO the East got too far carried away with what it means and what its value is. But it has a value. But for me it is the least interesting thing about my mind, not the most. I like it at a certain level and will use meditation to tweek it a bit to this day since I began to reevaluate the value of TM for me after Maharishi's death. And if a person didn't feel connected to that silence then I can see where that could cause problems. But now with my interest in brain science coming through with more details in the last decade I am more interested in understanding how
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
snip Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? Curtis, I believe you've taken this out of context. I was teasing Ravi about his cute photo (IMO) and mentioned in my post that Obba or Judy might give him a kiss-kiss as there was also a short string of tease posts that had already happened where Obba had used that term. Judy was likely just playing on my post and replying in the affirmative around the pic only. This was my post. Ravi, wait, I forgot to emphasize...this picture of you IS HOT - try and stay objective in your review :) I'm sure that Obba would give you a wet KISS KISS on this one. Judy might pile on with a kiss-kiss if you are really lucky. If Bob wasn't vacationing somewhere on a remote romantic island with the wife, he could probably send you the appropriate movie clip to seal the deal. Now, for me the word hot is a new one, so I'm using my intuition on this one. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 8:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..) -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Snipped the dancing routine, sooo Nancy Grace in the groaning 3 inch heels. But this is the good part cuz her refusal to accept that she has been called out was just predictable. Here is where I start hearing the music from the start of the twilight zone in my head. It's amazing how Curtis engineered all this to make himself appear to be the totally blameless victim by a series of moves that's so convoluted nobody gets what he's done except those he's done it *to*. And not for the first time, either. That's one thing at which he's better than anyone here. And this is not the first time you have accused me of such a bizarre thing. And on a public board no less where we all read all the posts if we want to. And I am able to hide my deviousness from everyone but Judy, how can that be? Oh I know, it has to do with her inflated sense of her perceptive powers to detect evil, beyond all other posters reading the same posts. Let me defend myself from this twisted claim of special powers of deceit in plan sight. Ravi was spinning a tale of how he has no sexual desire from his self proclaimed whatever state for the umpteenth time, while describing the old guy in the club behavior I get to see on a regular basis during performances where alcohol is served. The only people I hear talking about having no sexual desire uninvited, and relevant to nothing that applies to us, are preachers running a I'm too special for human feelings like Jerry Falwell. In the end they are usually revealed to be hypocrites who were compelled to make their denials because they are selling a story about themselves. Like Ravi is. And I would have just let it pass but he also called me dishonest for the millionth time with zero evidence. So I commented on how he appeared to me. Then Ravi claimed that he wasn't really buying drinks for an underage girl which was his original story. I am guessing that he ended up looking a bit loseresque getting worked by a Tom Sawyer in hot pants and a tank top. So he tried to cover his tracks but once I smelled a rat I didn't buy his denial. I think he really did go to a club and have a young girl work him for free drinks before telling him she needed to go to the bathroom and run out of the club giggling with her friends full of Ravi financed liquor. So he flew off the handle and called me names, some of which are out of line so I let him know I felt that way. I tried to explain to him the deeper context of his slurs and how they really don't belong here. Labeling someone's behavior as desperate or his denials of having human feelings like the rest of us is not the same thing as being called a retard, (the N word of the disabled community) or an unhinged assault being called someone's bitch, which among men is rarely used face to face because it is an invitation to fight. Online it is extreme trollish behavior. Then he doubled down again and lied about why I left the movement. Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? I was reminded
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: My history in the movement was an open book. Do you think with all the teachers who weighed in on ALT TM someone would have missed that I had not left the movement voluntarily? It would never have been mentioned in articles quoting TM officials rebutting me? So why don't you simply tell us what went on Curtis ? That would clear up a lot of friction that has been going on lately. Did you play hillbilly music late at night on a course, dally with blondes ? Let us know ! I did perform Delta blues in the golden room of Seelisberg for my TTC. But it was not considered hillbilly since my course participants were educated in the history of music. Still the humourless guy. That's me, a well known fact. My leaving the movement was a result of re-evaluating Maharishi's interpretation of the experiences I have having with his program, and shifting from the perspective that he knew what he was talking about to, not so much. The 23 years of pursuing more information has not changed my conclusion back then, it has deepened it. snip I hope that clears things up a bit. Not really. It doesn't clear up the rumour that you got kicked out and which you confirmed earlier. When I pointed out that Maharishi was not wearing any clothes it ruffled many feathers in the kingdom, but since I had already left the palace there was no one to kick out. I'm sure they wouldn't let me into the domes of pure mildew if that helps. So in a sense the movement does reject me, although I had already returned every one of that chicks CDs and halter tops from my apartment waaay before she drunk dialed me to break up with me. Then I banged her best friend who was even hotter, but had about 7 ring piercings where I don't need to discover them if you catch my drift. She ended up being crazier than her buddy. And crazy is only cool for about 2 sleepless nights.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? Curtis, I believe you've taken this out of context.  I was teasing Ravi about his cute photo (IMO) and mentioned in my post that Obba or Judy might give him a kiss-kiss as there was also a short string of tease posts that had already happened where Obba had used that term.  Judy was likely just playing on my post and replying in the affirmative around the pic only.  This was my post.  I don't believe I am misquoting Judy, but if I am I'm sure she will correct it. And I was not trying to criticize you in any of this. We all are welcome to our own view of the guy and how he relates to us has a lot to do with that. I'm happy for him to find people to relate to here and if the Ravi ride is your cup of tea it is none of my business. Ravi, wait, I forgot to emphasize...this picture of you IS HOT - try and stay objective in your review :)  I'm sure that Obba would give you a wet KISS KISS on this one.  Judy might pile on with a kiss-kiss if you are really lucky.  If Bob wasn't vacationing somewhere on a remote romantic island with the wife, he could probably send you the appropriate movie clip to seal the deal.  Now, for me the word hot is a new one, so I'm using my intuition on this one. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 8:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..) -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Snipped the dancing routine, sooo Nancy Grace in the groaning 3 inch heels.  But this is the good part cuz her refusal to accept that she has been called out was just predictable. Here is where I start hearing the music from the start of the twilight zone in my head. It's amazing how Curtis engineered all this to make himself appear to be the totally blameless victim by a series of moves that's so convoluted nobody gets what he's done except those he's done it *to*. And not for the first time, either. That's one thing at which he's better than anyone here. And this is not the first time you have accused me of such a bizarre thing.  And on a public board no less where we all read all the posts if we want to.  And I am able to hide my deviousness from everyone but Judy, how can that be?  Oh I know, it has to do with her inflated sense of her perceptive powers to detect evil, beyond all other posters reading the same posts. Let me defend myself from this twisted claim of special powers of deceit in plan sight. Ravi was spinning a tale of how he has no sexual desire from his self proclaimed whatever state for the umpteenth time, while describing the old guy in the club behavior I get to see on a regular basis during performances where alcohol is served.  The only people I hear talking about having no sexual desire uninvited, and relevant to nothing that applies to us, are preachers running a I'm too special for human feelings like Jerry Falwell.  In the end they are usually revealed to be hypocrites who were compelled to make their denials because they are selling a story about themselves.  Like Ravi is. And I would have just let it pass but he also called me dishonest for the millionth time with zero evidence. So I commented on how he appeared to me. Then Ravi claimed that he wasn't really buying drinks for an underage girl which was his original story.  I am guessing that he ended up looking a bit loseresque getting worked by a Tom Sawyer in hot pants and a tank top.  So he tried to cover his tracks but once I smelled a rat I didn't buy his denial. I think he really did go to a club and have a young girl work him for free drinks before telling him she needed to go to the bathroom and run out of the club giggling with her friends full of Ravi financed liquor.  So he flew off the handle and called me names, some of which are out of line so I let him know I felt that way.  I tried to explain to him the deeper context of his slurs and how they really don't belong here.  Labeling someone's behavior as desperate or his denials of having human feelings like the rest of us is not the same thing as being called a retard, (the N word of the disabled community) or an unhinged assault being called someone's bitch, which among men is rarely used face to face because it is
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
Kiss Kiss! ; ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: snip Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? Curtis, I believe you've taken this out of context.  I was teasing Ravi about his cute photo (IMO) and mentioned in my post that Obba or Judy might give him a kiss-kiss as there was also a short string of tease posts that had already happened where Obba had used that term.  Judy was likely just playing on my post and replying in the affirmative around the pic only.  This was my post.  Ravi, wait, I forgot to emphasize...this picture of you IS HOT - try and stay objective in your review :)  I'm sure that Obba would give you a wet KISS KISS on this one.  Judy might pile on with a kiss-kiss if you are really lucky.  If Bob wasn't vacationing somewhere on a remote romantic island with the wife, he could probably send you the appropriate movie clip to seal the deal.  Now, for me the word hot is a new one, so I'm using my intuition on this one. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 8:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..) -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Snipped the dancing routine, sooo Nancy Grace in the groaning 3 inch heels.  But this is the good part cuz her refusal to accept that she has been called out was just predictable. Here is where I start hearing the music from the start of the twilight zone in my head. It's amazing how Curtis engineered all this to make himself appear to be the totally blameless victim by a series of moves that's so convoluted nobody gets what he's done except those he's done it *to*. And not for the first time, either. That's one thing at which he's better than anyone here. And this is not the first time you have accused me of such a bizarre thing.  And on a public board no less where we all read all the posts if we want to.  And I am able to hide my deviousness from everyone but Judy, how can that be?  Oh I know, it has to do with her inflated sense of her perceptive powers to detect evil, beyond all other posters reading the same posts. Let me defend myself from this twisted claim of special powers of deceit in plan sight. Ravi was spinning a tale of how he has no sexual desire from his self proclaimed whatever state for the umpteenth time, while describing the old guy in the club behavior I get to see on a regular basis during performances where alcohol is served.  The only people I hear talking about having no sexual desire uninvited, and relevant to nothing that applies to us, are preachers running a I'm too special for human feelings like Jerry Falwell.  In the end they are usually revealed to be hypocrites who were compelled to make their denials because they are selling a story about themselves.  Like Ravi is. And I would have just let it pass but he also called me dishonest for the millionth time with zero evidence. So I commented on how he appeared to me. Then Ravi claimed that he wasn't really buying drinks for an underage girl which was his original story.  I am guessing that he ended up looking a bit loseresque getting worked by a Tom Sawyer in hot pants and a tank top.  So he tried to cover his tracks but once I smelled a rat I didn't buy his denial. I think he really did go to a club and have a young girl work him for free drinks before telling him she needed to go to the bathroom and run out of the club giggling with her friends full of Ravi financed liquor.  So he flew off the handle and called me names, some of which are out of line so I let him know I felt that way.  I tried to explain to him the deeper context of his slurs and how they really don't belong here.  Labeling someone's behavior as desperate or his denials of having human feelings like the rest of us is not the same thing as being called a retard, (the N word of the disabled community) or an unhinged assault being called someone's bitch, which among men is rarely used face to face because it is an invitation to fight. Online it is extreme trollish behavior.  Then he doubled down again and lied about why I left the movement. Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view.  Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? Curtis, I believe you've taken this out of context.  I was teasing Ravi about his cute photo (IMO) and mentioned in my post that Obba or Judy might give him a kiss-kiss as there was also a short string of tease posts that had already happened where Obba had used that term.  Judy was likely just playing on my post and replying in the affirmative around the pic only.  This was my post.  I don't believe I am misquoting Judy, but if I am I'm sure she will correct it. And I was not trying to criticize you in any of this. We all are welcome to our own view of the guy and how he relates to us has a lot to do with that. I'm happy for him to find people to relate to here and if the Ravi ride is your cup of tea it is none of my business. Really, dude? This IS an open online forum seen by any eyes wishing to see! LOL non of my business. Bhahaha! : ) Ravi, wait, I forgot to emphasize...this picture of you IS HOT - try and stay objective in your review :)  I'm sure that Obba would give you a wet KISS KISS on this one.  Judy might pile on with a kiss-kiss if you are really lucky.  If Bob wasn't vacationing somewhere on a remote romantic island with the wife, he could probably send you the appropriate movie clip to seal the deal.  Now, for me the word hot is a new one, so I'm using my intuition on this one. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 8:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..) -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Snipped the dancing routine, sooo Nancy Grace in the groaning 3 inch heels.  But this is the good part cuz her refusal to accept that she has been called out was just predictable. Here is where I start hearing the music from the start of the twilight zone in my head. It's amazing how Curtis engineered all this to make himself appear to be the totally blameless victim by a series of moves that's so convoluted nobody gets what he's done except those he's done it *to*. And not for the first time, either. That's one thing at which he's better than anyone here. And this is not the first time you have accused me of such a bizarre thing.  And on a public board no less where we all read all the posts if we want to.  And I am able to hide my deviousness from everyone but Judy, how can that be?  Oh I know, it has to do with her inflated sense of her perceptive powers to detect evil, beyond all other posters reading the same posts. Let me defend myself from this twisted claim of special powers of deceit in plan sight. Ravi was spinning a tale of how he has no sexual desire from his self proclaimed whatever state for the umpteenth time, while describing the old guy in the club behavior I get to see on a regular basis during performances where alcohol is served.  The only people I hear talking about having no sexual desire uninvited, and relevant to nothing that applies to us, are preachers running a I'm too special for human feelings like Jerry Falwell.  In the end they are usually revealed to be hypocrites who were compelled to make their denials because they are selling a story about themselves.  Like Ravi is. And I would have just let it pass but he also called me dishonest for the millionth time with zero evidence. So I commented on how he appeared to me. Then Ravi claimed that he wasn't really buying drinks for an underage girl which was his original story.  I am guessing that he ended up looking a bit loseresque getting worked by a Tom Sawyer in hot pants and a tank top.  So he tried to cover his tracks but once I smelled a rat I didn't buy his denial. I think he really did go to a club and have a young girl work him for free drinks before telling him she needed to go to the bathroom and run out of the club giggling with her friends full of Ravi financed liquor.  So he flew off the handle and called me names, some of which are out of line so I let him know I felt that way.  I tried to explain to him the deeper context of his slurs and how they really don't belong here.  Labeling
[FairfieldLife] Predictions for Iowa caucus tonight
My predictions for the Republican caucus tonight: 1. Mitt Romney 2. Rick Santorum 3. Ron Paul Remember, you read it here first.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: snip Whenever you have a god, and a relation thereto, you have duality, you do not have unity, or perhaps you have a broken unity. To have a relationship, there has to be a separation between you and whatever is not you. I do not think Robin, as Jason suggests, is an idiot. No one can write like he does and be an idiot. This is a subject about which eternal confusion exists. I think he is unwilling to give up his conception of god. If you are religious, this is the last barrier you have to give up to find out what that term 'god' represents. Enlightenment is not about gaining. It is about losing our illusion of what we think the world is all about, and when that illusion cracks, our personal world is bye bye, and that is a major stumbling block for many. The 'self' as opposed to 'Self' is an illusion. The 'Self' conceived as something even remotely like a 'self' (but maybe only bigger, better, grander, loftier), is an illusion created by our own mind. It is just a placeholder, like 'god' for an experience that cannot really be described to someone who has not had it. Kind of like you have a piece of blue jeans in your hand, and you show it to someone who has never seen the sky, and say 'this is what the sky looks like'. snip Xeno, you say Whenever you have a god, and a relation thereto, you have duality, you do not have unity, Yes and No. You may not know about it, but there is an important concept in bhakti yoga, called 'Unity in separation' (I'll have to search for the exact term.) Basically, it goes like this: As a devotee, you desire unification with your God. After you this happens, there could come a moment, when you remember the intense longing you used to have in your pre-union state, and ask God to bring you back to this state, where you had love and the longing for God, and God will then bring you back to this state of separation, where you again can have the exprience of longing and love. But as it is, you actually experience God through this longing and love, God is in the longing, and you are one with it. I remember of reading this first in a book about Anandamayi Ma, but it is a known concept in bhakti. It is called unity in separation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
Nabs, All of this can be seen in the US natal chart. As a nation, the US considers itself to be a leader in the world stage and the standard bearer for democracy. Yes, we might get into another war over this. But realistically we can't afford another war. But one wonders why Iran is making these provocative moves when their naval fleet is clearly outgunned by the US armada. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: They're apparently trying to assert its military might in the region. But the Americans have always maintained a policy of carrying a big stick to deter any potential aggressors. As such, the US Navy will be there no matter what the Iranians say. We know this already. The americans are always ready for another war anywhere on this planet regardless of the human or financial loss. They will never learn. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/pentagon-pushes-back-iranian-warnings-u-aircraft-carrier-165850384.html
[FairfieldLife] The Intermediate Zone
http://intyoga.online.fr/intzone.htm Sri AurobindoThe Intermediate Zone (1933)All these experiences are of the same nature and what applies to oneapplies to another. Apart from some experiences of a personal character,the rest are either idea-truths, such as pour down into the consciousness from above when one gets into touch with certain planes of being, or strong formations from the larger mental and vital worlds which, when one is directly open to these worlds, rush in and want to use the sadhak for their fulfilment. These things, when they pour down or come in, present themselves with a great force, a vivid sense of inspiration or illumination, much sensation of light and joy, an impression of wideningand power.The sadhak feels himself freed from the normal limits, projectedinto a wonderful new world of experience, filled and enlarged and exalted;what comes associates itself, besides, with his aspirations, ambitions, notions of spiritual fulfilment and yogic siddhi; it is represented even as itself that realisation and fulfilment. Very easily he is carriedaway by the splendour and the rush, and thinks that he has realisedmore than he has truly done, something final or at least something sovereignlytrue. At this stage the necessary knowledge and experience are usuallylacking which would tell him that this is only a very uncertain andmixed beginning; he may not realise at once that he is still in the cosmic Ignorance, not in the cosmic Truth, much less in the TranscendentalTruth, and that whatever formative or dynamic idea-truths may have comedown into him are partial only and yet further diminished by their presentationto him by a still mixed consciousness. He may fail to realise also that if he rushes to apply what he is realising or receiving as if it were something definitive, he may either fall into confusion and error or else get shut up in some partial formation in which there may be an element of spiritual Truth but it is likely to be outweighted by more dubious mental and vital accretions that deform it altogether. It is only when he is able to draw back (whether at once or after a time) from his experiences, stand above them with the dispassionate witness consciousness, observe their real nature, limitations, composition, mixture that he can proceed on his way towards a real freedom and a higher, larger and truer siddhi. At each step this has to be done. For whatever comes in this way to the sadhak of this yoga, whether it be from overmind or Intuition or Illumined Mind or some exalted Life Plane or from all these together, it is not definitive and final; it is not the supreme Truth in which he can rest, but only a stage. And yet these stages have to be passed through, for the supramental or the Supreme Truth cannot be reached in one bound or even in many bounds; one has to pursue a calm patient steady progress through many intervening stages without getting bound or attached to their lesser Truth or Light or Power or Ananda. This is in fact an intermediary state, a zone of transitionbetween the ordinary consciousness in mind and the true yoga knowledge.One may cross without hurt through it, perceiving at once or at an earlystage its real nature and refusing to be detained by its half-lightsand tempting but imperfect and often mixed and misleading experiences;one may go astray in it, follow false voices and mendacious guidance, and that ends in a spiritual disaster; or one may take up one's abode in this intermediate zone, care to go no farther and build there some half-truth which one takes for the whole truth or become the instrument of the powers of these transitional planes, - that is what happens to many sadhaks and yogis. Overwhelmed by the first rush and sense of power of a supernormal condition, they get dazzled with a little light which seems to them a tremendous illumination or a touch of force which they mistake for the full Divine Force or at least a very great yoga Shakti; or they accept some intermediate Power (not always a Power of the Divine)as the Supreme and an intermediate consciousness as the supreme realisation.Very readily they come to think that they are in the full cosmic consciousnesswhen it is only some front or small part of it or some larger Mind, Life-Power or subtle physical ranges with which they have entered into dynamic connection. Or they feel themselves to be in an entirely illuminedconsciousness, while in reality they are receiving imperfectly thingsfrom above through a partial illumination of some mental or vital plane;for what comes is diminished and often deformed in the course of transmissionthrough these
Re: [FairfieldLife] Predictions for Iowa caucus tonight
My guesses are: 1. Mitt Romney 2. Ron Paul 3. Newton Gingrich 4. Santorum ...although I have to admit, I think your guesses are excellent ones - and you're also being exposed to all the ads and spin on the ground. I just have a hard time believing any reasonable human would actually vote for Santorum. Care to share who you are voting for? What are your favorite and least favorite campaign ads? On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:23 PM, feste37 wrote: My predictions for the Republican caucus tonight: 1. Mitt Romney 2. Rick Santorum 3. Ron Paul Remember, you read it here first.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
And my 50th post in continuation to the behavior of Ms. Waybackward. So Ms. Waybackward is fine with Vaj, Barry, Curtis's lies, deception, abuses, harassment of others, masking of their sexual perversion and past behavior of using power, authority in cults to prey on innocent blondes with their patented 7 layer gross, base, crude deception, because they don't trigger her fears, insecurities and anxieties. In fact their messages seem to act as some kind of perverse pacifier for her. Yet no one told her that FFL is the playground for a genuinely humble, supremely arrogant, divine vodka drunk, beloved obsessed lover, who battles the bitches, the Raakshasas, the metaphorical demons for ignorance, deception, sexual perversion, repression. We now know Ms. Waybackward's fears with mental disorders but I have clearly talked my symptoms of panic attacks, manic depressive states and psychosis during my Kundalini ascension/descension phases, how I have come through untouched, untainted, untarnished by anyone including the big pharma, totally guided by my trust in myself, the existence. She admits to lacking interest on majority of posts, it's clear she lacks the intelligence as well based upon her posts where she, OMG !!! dares to challenge Judy's clear intellect..LOL.. She conducts impromptu condescending diagnosis from her pedestal that seems to be an posh, opulent, magnificent trailer in Iowa. Clearly she is the league of our heartland retard Steve. Steve, the one who can rarely form coherent, logical, grammatically correct sentences. He thinks he can use his pea sized brain to analyze me, a Telugu Brahmin, blessed with the best of all that they have to offer, whose biggest battles were with his high self esteem i.e. his supreme arrogance and his mad brilliance. That existence used my weakness for beloved to punish me brutally so I learnt respecting authority, learned to be humble and learned to balance my intellect with love, kindness. That I'm now harmless, vulnerable, at the mercy of the existence i.e. existence's whore. That now I am a slave, servant to my lovers yet a ruthless pimp to my bitches, bitches of ignorance, deception and perversion. So Ms. Waybackward's tall tales on how super busy she is seems to fall under the same category as our Heartland retards references to Shakespeare. Else why should she seek the comfort of the perverse pacifiers that are the troika of mind blowing mediocrity, incredible idiocy and random retardedness. That they enthrall, entice and entertain the niche audience of Waybackward's and Heartland retards is not surprising. P.S. Steve you know I always worry about your kid's homework, but I know it's most likely your better half's burden. At least the kids are kind enough to teach you Shakespeare. P.P.S Zarzari, welcome and thanks for your kind comments. When you said I was love bombing that was only half the picture - I love bomb my lovers and hate bomb my bitches. OK - I hope my bitches behave till I come back. Watch out Barry if you start acting up I will humiliate you with the dirt I have on you. Love Hate, Ravi. On Jan 2, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: Aah..feels good, voices of sanity, my dear beautiful Judy, dear beautiful Denise and dear beautiful Obba. I'm glad Ms. Waybackward at least acknowledged me as a mad genius. I can see how my messages seem to trigger her fears, anxieties, because of her experiences with so called mental disorders. She should read carefully, my posts that talk about it how I had to go through some of these states because of my Kundalini. I hope she will put her fears aside when interacting at a very mature adult discussion group that is FFL. OTOH Barry, Vaj and Curtis's lies, deception and behavior doesn't seem to bother her, go figure..LOL.. Ravi. On Jan 2, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, in theory I agree with you, but it gets s complicated, in part of your second sentence. In part, because this forum is unique in how it addresses issues. I think there was some pretty definite blowback on Ravi's post to raunchydog, for example, from almost everyone. Different approaches and timing of responses, but some definite blowback, myself included. From the me perspective, I ultimately moved through a lot of shame on that whole two-week thing, so from a self-centered point of view, I ultimately benefited. OTOH, I was very concerned about raunchy because my gender was fully engaged. OTOH, as a person, it's not like she acted like a nun. So, again, I trust that ultimately, the process of back and forth works. I am much more worried about people who are solidly passive-agressive. That character type scares me to death as I find it the most hostile of any type, based on my past and current experience in my life. There are a couple of those types in my immediate family
Re: [FairfieldLife] Predictions for Iowa caucus tonight
On 01/03/2012 11:52 AM, Vaj wrote: My guesses are: 1. Mitt Romney 2. Ron Paul 3. Newton Gingrich 4. Santorum ...although I have to admit, I think your guesses are excellent ones - and you're also being exposed to all the ads and spin on the ground. I just have a hard time believing any reasonable human would actually vote for Santorum. Care to share who you are voting for? What are your favorite and least favorite campaign ads? On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:23 PM, feste37 wrote: My predictions for the Republican caucus tonight: 1. Mitt Romney 2. Rick Santorum 3. Ron Paul Remember, you read it here first. Mine are: 1) Idiot # 1 2) Idiot # 2 3) Idiot # 3
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
On 01/03/2012 11:42 AM, John wrote: Nabs, All of this can be seen in the US natal chart. As a nation, the US considers itself to be a leader in the world stage and the standard bearer for democracy. Yes, we might get into another war over this. But realistically we can't afford another war. ROTFL! The US the standard bearer for democracy? Give me a break it is the standard bearer for unrestrained capitalism and quickly becoming a fascist police state.
[FairfieldLife] China Is More Peaceful than the US
Former president Jimmy Carter explains. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4Gk3ixcUjsfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: Predictions for Iowa caucus tonight
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2672.1998.00498.x/abstract --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 01/03/2012 11:52 AM, Vaj wrote: My guesses are: 1. Mitt Romney 2. Ron Paul 3. Newton Gingrich 4. Santorum ...although I have to admit, I think your guesses are excellent ones - and you're also being exposed to all the ads and spin on the ground. I just have a hard time believing any reasonable human would actually vote for Santorum. Care to share who you are voting for? What are your favorite and least favorite campaign ads? On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:23 PM, feste37 wrote: My predictions for the Republican caucus tonight: 1. Mitt Romney 2. Rick Santorum 3. Ron Paul Remember, you read it here first. Mine are: 1) Idiot # 1 2) Idiot # 2 3) Idiot # 3
[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 01/03/2012 11:42 AM, John wrote: Nabs, All of this can be seen in the US natal chart. As a nation, the US considers itself to be a leader in the world stage and the standard bearer for democracy. Yes, we might get into another war over this. But realistically we can't afford another war. ROTFL! The US the standard bearer for democracy? Give me a break it is the standard bearer for unrestrained capitalism and quickly becoming a fascist police state. Don't let the FBI know what you're saying. You may find yourself being tailed by men in dark suits.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Snipped the dancing routine, sooo Nancy Grace in the groaning 3 inch heels. But this is the good part cuz her refusal to accept that she has been called out was just predictable. Here is where I start hearing the music from the start of the twilight zone in my head. It's amazing how Curtis engineered all this to make himself appear to be the totally blameless victim by a series of moves that's so convoluted nobody gets what he's done except those he's done it *to*. And not for the first time, either. That's one thing at which he's better than anyone here. And this is not the first time you have accused me of such a bizarre thing. And on a public board no less where we all read all the posts if we want to. And I am able to hide my deviousness from everyone but Judy, how can that be? Oh I know, it has to do with her inflated sense of her perceptive powers to detect evil, beyond all other posters reading the same posts. And here we have a splendid example of exactly what I was talking about. First let's delete the word evil in Curtis's attempted paraphrase of my assertion; he knows it isn't a word, or even a concept, I would use in this context, but it helps him load his argument by making what I said seem so much more extreme. From everyone but Judy and beyond all other posters reading the same posts--well, no; as Curtis is very much aware, Robin came to the same conclusion. As it happens, Robin and I are the only two people here who have had extended disagreements with Curtis and thus have had detailed, intimate experience of how Curtis operates when he's challenged. You really have to be on the receiving end for a lengthy exchange to see how he does it. In briefer exchanges, a person may just have a vague sense that something got twisted somehow that they have a hard time analyzing and articulating. But the same process is at work. So it has nothing to do with any special perceptive abilities on my (or Robin's) part; that notion is just more of Curtis's argument-loading. It's prolonged exposure that confers the ability to see what's going on. But when you *have* had prolonged exposure to Curtis's brand of twisting, it becomes quite obvious in the shorter exchanges as well. Nor are there special powers involved on Curtis's part. Rather, it's a finely honed skill born of long practice in self-defense and self-justification. So now that we've disposed of Curtis's argument-loading weasel words, what actually happened? We have Curtis's version below, in great detail. Here's mine. In post #300408, Curtis made a nasty comment on a post of Ravi's that was designed to provoke Ravi. Nothing in Ravi's post, or in his other posts quoted in that one, referred to Curtis in any way. He did take a shot at Barry, but not at Curtis, contrary to Curtis's claim below. So Curtis's slam was entirely gratuitous. It got a reaction from Ravi, a pretty mild one. He followed up before Curtis could reply with some nastier invective, the worst of which was to call Curtis dishonest and retarded. Curtis responded by essentially implying that Ravi was a pervert (shady horniness), following through on the Jerry Falwell theme of his first insult. Ravi responded in kind but more strongly, calling *Curtis* a pervert with regard to his purported fantasies about young girls and suggesting Curtis might have a sexual interest in Ravi as well, and at the same time asserting that he'd made up his girl-at-the-bar story to pique Curtis's curiosity. Curtis then implied Ravi was in denial about his own purported perversion. That was the point at which Ravi made the accusation that got everyone upset, about Curtis having allegedly been thrown out of the TMO for preying on young female TMers. Curtis's response: Kinda losing it, huh? He went on at nasty length about Ravi's use of the terms retarded and my bitch but did not address the offensive accusation any further. I chimed in with a three-word comment: Says Curtis, projecting. Meaning *Curtis* was losing it. Those of us who aren't violently allergic to Ravi were watching him playing his standard casual game of insult tennis, not even breaking a sweat, while Curtis got hotter and hotter under the collar. Instead of the losing it remark, Curtis *could*, as I pointed out in another post, have left Ravi twirling in the wind by cooly denying the offensive accusation and pointing out that if it had been true, that kind of serious misbehavior would have been hung around Curtis's neck long since. But Curtis didn't do that. Instead, on the basis of my three-word comment, he accused me of supporting Ravi and of hypocrisy for not calling Ravi out on his obviously untrue accusation, *when Curtis hadn't bothered to do so himself*. I'm supposed to go to battle for Curtis over an accusation he didn't take
[FairfieldLife] Believing that you know what God wants
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip Whenever you have a god, and a relation thereto, you have duality, you do not have unity, or perhaps you have a broken unity. To have a relationship, there has to be a separation between you and whatever is not you. I do not think Robin, as Jason suggests, is an idiot. No one can write like he does and be an idiot. This is a subject about which eternal confusion exists. I think he is unwilling to give up his conception of god. If you are religious, this is the last barrier you have to give up to find out what that term 'god' represents. Enlightenment is not about gaining. It is about losing our illusion of what we think the world is all about, and when that illusion cracks, our personal world is bye bye, and that is a major stumbling block for many. The 'self' as opposed to 'Self' is an illusion. The 'Self' conceived as something even remotely like a 'self' (but maybe only bigger, better, grander, loftier), is an illusion created by our own mind. It is just a placeholder, like 'god' for an experience that cannot really be described to someone who has not had it. Kind of like you have a piece of blue jeans in your hand, and you show it to someone who has never seen the sky, and say 'this is what the sky looks like'. snip Xeno, you say Whenever you have a god, and a relation thereto, you have duality, you do not have unity, Yes and No. You may not know about it, but there is an important concept in bhakti yoga, called 'Unity in separation' (I'll have to search for the exact term.) Basically, it goes like this: As a devotee, you desire unification with your God. After you this happens, there could come a moment, when you remember the intense longing you used to have in your pre-union state, and ask God to bring you back to this state, where you had love and the longing for God, and God will then bring you back to this state of separation, where you again can have the exprience of longing and love. But as it is, you actually experience God through this longing and love, God is in the longing, and you are one with it. I remember of reading this first in a book about Anandamayi Ma, but it is a known concept in bhakti. It is called unity in separation. Thanks for this. My path was never bhakti yoga. Even though I practice TM, my world view when I started all this was closer to a stripped down Zen Buddhism (minus Buddha and Zen pretty much). I approached it all as if I were an atheist, without being particularly attached to that word. I kind of approached the whole thing as if it were a mystery, so my preconceptions were fairly dilute, though not absent. Union with god was never my goal. Rather the emptiness of a sense of what absolute is was my focus. Of course all these fancies were bullshit, but they have served to keep me from over fantasizing about 'the goal'. I can manipulate symbols like 'god' and 'transcendence' etc., abstractly, as if they were real things, and this was useful in my early years with TM and other stuff. And it helps to know how to use these words if talking with someone else, but it is like when Einstein used words like that, he did not mean what the average person would take these words to represent. When the water is cold, maybe there is a reluctance to jump in all at once.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? Curtis, I believe you've taken this out of context. Â I was teasing Ravi about his cute photo (IMO) and mentioned in my post that Obba or Judy might give him a kiss-kiss as there was also a short string of tease posts that had already happened where Obba had used that term. Â Judy was likely just playing on my post and replying in the affirmative around the pic only. Â This was my post. Â I don't believe I am misquoting Judy, Straw man. Nobody said you were misquoting me. What you did, as Emily correctly notes, was take my comment out of context, inserting it into yours and implying I was supporting Ravi because I had the hots for him (with an unpleasant oblique reference to my age to boot). Wrong, dude. I was tweaking *you*. Ravi just happened to be the one you were reacting badly to. My remarks to you were about *you*, not Ravi. But I'm pretty sure you knew that. Hence the disingenuous denial that you were misquoting me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello again
zarzari, I watched the video, and I have to tell you that I understood only two or three words out of every five, so I really couldn't follow your thinking. It's clear you were attempting to refute Robin's belief that he was in Unity decades ago, but I couldn't understand enough of your words to grasp your argument. I may go back and try it again, see if I can get used to your accent enough to decipher the whole thing. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@... wrote: I had unsubscribed for a week or so, after much confusion, mis-attributions, snipping and editing context away of posts of mine, so I found it a bit hard to untangle all this, not having the time, some people here seem to have. Amongst other things, I thought it was time for me to come out of the shadow, I was accused that I couldn't say things straight in their face, and also inspired by those videos of Ravi, which I really like, as it gives a face to him, and makes me overlook some of the things he says. So, here it is, my video, done this morning, just with an improvised talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aHLZDqqQaE And I wish you all a happy new year, with a lot of kiss, kiss ;x an 3 3
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
On 01/03/2012 12:05 PM, John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 01/03/2012 11:42 AM, John wrote: Nabs, All of this can be seen in the US natal chart. As a nation, the US considers itself to be a leader in the world stage and the standard bearer for democracy. Yes, we might get into another war over this. But realistically we can't afford another war. ROTFL! The US the standard bearer for democracy? Give me a break it is the standard bearer for unrestrained capitalism and quickly becoming a fascist police state. Don't let the FBI know what you're saying. You may find yourself being tailed by men in dark suits. They do and they might find themselves wandering aimlessly in the desert after I use the Uchattan siddhi on them. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Predictions for Iowa caucus tonight
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: My guesses are: 1. Mitt Romney 2. Ron Paul 3. Newton Gingrich 4. Santorum ...although I have to admit, I think your guesses are excellent ones - and you're also being exposed to all the ads and spin on the ground. I just have a hard time believing any reasonable human would actually vote for Santorum. Care to share who you are voting for? What are your favorite and least favorite campaign ads? I won't be voting. I have never voted for a Republican and don't intend to start now. If I was forced to pick a Republican who would do the least damage to the country, it would be Romney. He is a fairly decent fellow who at the moment has to appease the extreme right if he is to win. (Mind you, does he really believe all that Mormon stuff about Jesus, the actual, real historical Jesus, that is, coming to America?) Santorum wants to bomb Iran, so I agree that no sane person would vote for him, given also his extreme views on other matters. I don't take much notice of the ads. It's like when someone complains to you bitterly about their wife or husband. You think, Oh yeah, I'd like to hear the other side of this . . . On Jan 3, 2012, at 2:23 PM, feste37 wrote: My predictions for the Republican caucus tonight: 1. Mitt Romney 2. Rick Santorum 3. Ron Paul Remember, you read it here first.
[FairfieldLife] Re: It's like you're sitting at a nice, cozy bar
turquoiseb: I find that you can tell almost everything you need to know about a post from the Subject line and the first few words of it that you see in Message View... = __o \`, = (*) % (*) Correction: = __o \`, = (*) % (*)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Nabs, All of this can be seen in the US natal chart. As a nation, the US considers itself to be a leader in the world stage and the standard bearer for democracy. Yes, we might get into another war over this. But realistically we can't afford another war. But one wonders why Iran is making these provocative moves when their naval fleet is clearly outgunned by the US armada. It's no secret it's because the US threatens to expand sanctions again Iran. Their threats is an answer to American provocation. Why do I get a feeling I've heard this story before ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
Curtis, (I'm totally babbling here...sorry for the slog needed to get to the salient points -- IF THERE ARE ANY.) I'm willing to use religious metaphors as tools, but let's face it, they've sometimes triggered knee-jerks in ya. I say God, and I mean whatever the fuck ultimate reality is, and you hear, perhaps at least a couple of times: imaginary white bearded guy with Whom Edg thinks he can communicate. But the word God is faster to type than W.T.F.U.R.I. So when I use God, please hold back that deep need to choke me. I know you will. I agree that we cannot know if someone's brain is sensitive and hep or merely delusional, and that when it came to TM I drank the cool aid and didn't really challenge MMY's assertions. (But, as a poet, let me underline that just about any words can be made to fit any experience, so it's no surprise that anyone can say anything about God, and it can believed deeply and sincerely without any sense of dissonance. Therefore, as a fellow ape, I feel compassion for apes who get caught in a trap of certainty about how they're interpreting their experiences. It's so easy to do.) I don't know physics...just metaphors to me. When I note that I am certainly having an experience, this is not necessarily an event about which the intellect needs to prattle in order for it to be authenticated as real to me. You know this too, but let's have it always on the table between us. If I hear someone speaking in the distance but do not hear well enough to pick out the words, I can still pick up on emotions and maybe even the concepts just from volume and tone of the delivery. My brain is able to process it into meaning of some sort that I trust deeply. Maybe folks can hear God but not be able to pick out His words...but yet still be certain about His message? Maybe the quantum foam is heard as , and since OM means ALL THINGS, folks feel free to assert that it means, well, ANY THING, and they'll be speaking truly as far as they know. ??? That doesn't carry much proof-heft, cuz I can point my finger anywhere and be sure to be targeting something real. To say God is vengeful or loving or The True Psyche of Elvis Presley true true true. It's all true. Everything. And that's why it's often such trouble with hard-wired believers -- they're telling the truth but not the whole truth so help them God. This would be a feeling in God or intuitively relating to divinity instead of a believing in God. And frankly, I kinda like the folks that do this, cuz they're almost always about loving. It's in the ones who insist on a precise conceptualization of their takes that we see spiritual fascism trying to add lyrics to the divine song. I have this silence about which I cannot conceptualize except with the same old tired ways of mysticism, but despite the challenge of framing the experience, I feel no challenge in interpreting the experience by intuition/gut check/feel. To me, silence is God's very presence not because I can construct a proof but because I cannot deny that I am intensely aware of it -- more than if I were to come upon a 1000 pound unexploded bomb in a downtown London construction site. And it's not merely a sound thingie. White paper between black letters, what exists between a this and a that, the blank I get when I try to know my next thought, that pause before a sneeze, the first answer to the question Why? and/or the color of the precise line that separates yin from yang. Poetry. But there it is: we have many ways of thinking without concepts manifested as 'words passing through consciousness.' And from birth we're always siding with our own spontaneous conclusions, so I just have big-assed compassion for true-believers. Even the bastard bullies. I made a Trikke video the other day in which I tooled around solely on my driveway while I spoke quietly to the camera in a constant patter of observations, and I was trying hard to be cogent and I was. Yet my carving skills went unaffected by the processes of manifesting my intellect verbally. I did the most marvelous little moves rat-a-tat-tat but it was almost entirely a non-act of me staying out of the way of the, GET THIS, MINDFUL act of another me's creativity -- that of my muscle memory mind. I simply was not carving. The body was doing all the choices except every now and then I'd mindfully add a decision. It was so obvious that there were, sorry to put it like this, TWO MEs. I seem to be populated by these other types of me. Anyone knows these mes. Who doesn't multitask? I think MMY's insistence that we can only have ONE thought at a time is pure bullshit. Everyone talks while driving error free -- using the turn signals, whatever -- decisions that never even gets to the chooser of the mind. So I ask you, Curtis, with your giant fucking heart loving music as if it were holy (it is,) isn't there a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: My history in the movement was an open book. Do you think with all the teachers who weighed in on ALT TM someone would have missed that I had not left the movement voluntarily? It would never have been mentioned in articles quoting TM officials rebutting me? So why don't you simply tell us what went on Curtis ? That would clear up a lot of friction that has been going on lately. Did you play hillbilly music late at night on a course, dally with blondes ? Let us know ! I did perform Delta blues in the golden room of Seelisberg for my TTC. But it was not considered hillbilly since my course participants were educated in the history of music. Still the humourless guy. That's me, a well known fact. My leaving the movement was a result of re-evaluating Maharishi's interpretation of the experiences I have having with his program, and shifting from the perspective that he knew what he was talking about to, not so much. The 23 years of pursuing more information has not changed my conclusion back then, it has deepened it. snip I hope that clears things up a bit. Not really. It doesn't clear up the rumour that you got kicked out and which you confirmed earlier. When I pointed out that Maharishi was not wearing any clothes it ruffled many feathers in the kingdom, but since I had already left the palace there was no one to kick out. I'm sure they wouldn't let me into the domes of pure mildew if that helps. So in a sense the movement does reject me, although I had already returned every one of that chicks CDs and halter tops from my apartment waaay before she drunk dialed me to break up with me. Then I banged her best friend who was even hotter, but had about 7 ring piercings where I don't need to discover them if you catch my drift. She ended up being crazier than her buddy. And crazy is only cool for about 2 sleepless nights. Displaying no insight into who Maharishi was, rather large amounts of confusion and egomanical thoughts regarding your own understanding, no wonder you were not welcome. Let's hope working in the streets asking for coins makes you feel better in the long run.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Displaying no insight into who Maharishi was, rather large amounts of confusion and egomanical thoughts regarding your own understanding, no wonder you were not welcome. Let's hope working in the streets asking for coins makes you feel better in the long run. What a dickish thing to say. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: My history in the movement was an open book. Do you think with all the teachers who weighed in on ALT TM someone would have missed that I had not left the movement voluntarily? It would never have been mentioned in articles quoting TM officials rebutting me? So why don't you simply tell us what went on Curtis ? That would clear up a lot of friction that has been going on lately. Did you play hillbilly music late at night on a course, dally with blondes ? Let us know ! I did perform Delta blues in the golden room of Seelisberg for my TTC. But it was not considered hillbilly since my course participants were educated in the history of music. Still the humourless guy. That's me, a well known fact. My leaving the movement was a result of re-evaluating Maharishi's interpretation of the experiences I have having with his program, and shifting from the perspective that he knew what he was talking about to, not so much. The 23 years of pursuing more information has not changed my conclusion back then, it has deepened it. snip I hope that clears things up a bit. Not really. It doesn't clear up the rumour that you got kicked out and which you confirmed earlier. When I pointed out that Maharishi was not wearing any clothes it ruffled many feathers in the kingdom, but since I had already left the palace there was no one to kick out. I'm sure they wouldn't let me into the domes of pure mildew if that helps. So in a sense the movement does reject me, although I had already returned every one of that chicks CDs and halter tops from my apartment waaay before she drunk dialed me to break up with me. Then I banged her best friend who was even hotter, but had about 7 ring piercings where I don't need to discover them if you catch my drift. She ended up being crazier than her buddy. And crazy is only cool for about 2 sleepless nights. Displaying no insight into who Maharishi was, rather large amounts of confusion and egomanical thoughts regarding your own understanding, no wonder you were not welcome. Let's hope working in the streets asking for coins makes you feel better in the long run.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Displaying no insight into who Maharishi was, rather large amounts of confusion and egomanical thoughts regarding your own understanding, no wonder you were not welcome. Let's hope working in the streets asking for coins makes you feel better in the long run. What a dickish thing to say. Welcome to 2012 Curtis. Don't be surprised if more people will take a closer look and find that you are the one who has no clothes this year.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 01/03/2012 12:05 PM, John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 01/03/2012 11:42 AM, John wrote: Nabs, All of this can be seen in the US natal chart. As a nation, the US considers itself to be a leader in the world stage and the standard bearer for democracy. Yes, we might get into another war over this. But realistically we can't afford another war. ROTFL! The US the standard bearer for democracy? Give me a break it is the standard bearer for unrestrained capitalism and quickly becoming a fascist police state. Don't let the FBI know what you're saying. You may find yourself being tailed by men in dark suits. They do and they might find themselves wandering aimlessly in the desert after I use the Uchattan siddhi on them. ;-) This siddhi is a new one. Can you explain to us this new power of yours?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hello again
On 01/03/2012 09:50 AM, zarzari_786 wrote: I had unsubscribed for a week or so, after much confusion, mis-attributions, snipping and editing context away of posts of mine, so I found it a bit hard to untangle all this, not having the time, some people here seem to have. Amongst other things, I thought it was time for me to come out of the shadow, I was accused that I couldn't say things straight in their face, and also inspired by those videos of Ravi, which I really like, as it gives a face to him, and makes me overlook some of the things he says. So, here it is, my video, done this morning, just with an improvised talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aHLZDqqQaE And I wish you all a happy new year, with a lot of kiss, kiss ;x an33 You are on the right track. Those of us who deal with AI know that human beings aren't computers but instead learning machines. We learn patterns. I have strongly argued that meditation makes the nervous system adapt to pure consciousness. The nervous system does what it needs to do or rewire itself to maintain that state all the time in activity. Once experienced it is difficult to lose and the experience builds. A temporary loss may be due to some illness or brain damage but then I think the individual would have some sense of that experience. Some people think that enlightenment is more magical like living in a world with psychedelic lights and snapping your fingers makes things happen but realistically it's the experience of the stillness of pure consciousness when in activity (and obviously there in meditation).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
From #300483 Judy: Kiss-kiss-KISS!! That picture of Ravi IS hot. #300136 Judy: Ravi!! SO glad to see you back. Kiss-kiss. Very cool video, this one. If I may ask, how the heck did you get the car to bounce in time with the music?? That's 50, and I'm out till the weekend. You better still be here, you hear? You know we can all read all the posts and can search them too right? And if you don't want to get tweeked for being an older woman crushing on a younger man you can take it up with Ravi who refers to you as his lover and as one of his older women who he pleases with his wonderfulness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? Curtis, I believe you've taken this out of context. Â I was teasing Ravi about his cute photo (IMO) and mentioned in my post that Obba or Judy might give him a kiss-kiss as there was also a short string of tease posts that had already happened where Obba had used that term. Â Judy was likely just playing on my post and replying in the affirmative around the pic only. Â This was my post. Â I don't believe I am misquoting Judy, Straw man. Nobody said you were misquoting me. What you did, as Emily correctly notes, was take my comment out of context, inserting it into yours and implying I was supporting Ravi because I had the hots for him (with an unpleasant oblique reference to my age to boot). Wrong, dude. I was tweaking *you*. Ravi just happened to be the one you were reacting badly to. My remarks to you were about *you*, not Ravi. WTF are you talking about here? I reacted badly. But not Ravi the flame thrower. You are really digging yourself in deeper in your double down routine Judy but if you want to let it ride I'll accommodate your foolishness. But I'm pretty sure you knew that. Hence the disingenuous denial that you were misquoting me. I got it right, sorry it isn't too flattering.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
Hi Judy, thanks as always for your candor and groundedness. I agree Robin is the ultimate experiencer of himself. He has made other references to life being completely out of his control while he was undergoing this Unity. And if Unity it was, that fits the model too, in that CC, GC, UC all must be transcended. I think Robin instinctively knew that. And if he didn't, the cosmic forces he watched run the show for awhile, did. The more basic point is that once awake, it is impossible to go back to sleep. It is a one way valve once awakening occurs (primed from a lifetime of devotion). So although I can accept that Robin's identification with the language and experience of his former state of consciousness, is gone, he has not gone back to sleep or lost his enlightenment. It is just no longer necessary to acknowledge such a thing for him. PS Robin, thanks in advance for allowing me to speak for you.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Jim, this is a very lovely description of your experience; many thanks. Whether it has anything to do with Robin's comment about witnessing, or the accuracy of his assertion that he was in Unity, I couldn't say, obviously; he'd have to address that himself. I think I found the post in which he made the remark you cite--where he says he was a pure witness to all that was happening around me. I think it's *conceivable* that you may be overinterpreting it as a very specific technical description of his experience, using Maharishi's term, when he was actually referring to something broader and more general about his relationship to the drama taking place with regard to his cult and the court cases and all. IOW, I'm not sure that remark is the smoking gun that disproves his conviction that he was in Unity. I could very well be wrong; I just mention this as a possibility. As I say, he'd have to address it himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: Hi Judy, you wrote, You do understand that Robin does not claim to be enlightened and is not seeking enlightenment, that he thinks it's a snare and a delusion, that he believes he was enlightened decades ago and has made a huge effort since then to de-enlighten himself. After reading a lot of what Robin writes about enlightenment and his experience being enlightened, he says he was witnessing the whole time. That stuck out when I read it. Enlightenment as it grows, and it always grows if it is real, eats up and integrates witnessing. There is a period following waking up or the stabilizing of Self Realization, where witnessing everything, seeing the frictionless flow of life and your silent place in it, dominates perception. Freedom! Absence of fear! A great influx of cosmic energy as the Atman or Soul becomes a permanent flame within and shines forth. If you want to stay there for awhile, then others can see your light and respond to it. I'll not go much further into Robin's experience but I think this is where he was during his leading of an alternative spiritual movement. It was 100% genuine regarding the Soul carrying out its function of expansion. As the Atman continues to shine forth, extending one's boundaries, making them less distinct, melding one's identity with that of the Cosmos, the unity between us and others and everything else in our experience becomes more obvious. As the soul continues to radiate outward from deeper and deeper within us, that cosmic energy we become permeates everything. Everything. At that point, the lights seem to go out! Holy shit, what happened? The light we (the personal and Impersonal self) are radiating becomes so pervasive, inside and out, that life is at once transformed, becoming progressively more interesting, captivating and beautiful, while remaining exactly as it was before. So we no longer see the contrast between the light that we are, and the light now everywhere else. We are no longer witnessing, or perhaps the witness has come out to play. There is no longer the longing for *peak* experiences that we used to want, but instead, it is *all* very much better.:-) In order to witness, there has to be something distinct from something else. There has to be the unfettered ;-) bliss of the soul, the personal Being, distinct from everything else, and we are residing in Being, looking out as it were on everything else. People describe witnessing as being so free! so weightless almost, just in a big cloud of bliss, mind almost empty. It is an awesome feeling, but not a complete one. Even the witness has to be transcended in order to for enlightenment to continue, and continue it will. There is no way to put the soul back to sleep once it wakes up, and one Day of Enlightenment lasts a very, very, very long time! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: Hi Judy, you wrote, You do understand that Robin does not claim to be enlightened and is not seeking enlightenment, that he thinks it's a snare and a delusion, that he believes he was enlightened decades ago and has made a huge effort since then to de-enlighten himself. After reading a lot of what Robin writes about enlightenment and his experience being enlightened, he says he was witnessing the whole time. That stuck out when I read it. Enlightenment as it grows, and it always grows if it is real, eats up and integrates witnessing. There is a period following waking up or the stabilizing of Self Realization, where witnessing everything, seeing the frictionless flow of life and your silent place in it, dominates perception. Freedom! Absence of fear! A great influx of cosmic energy as the Atman or Soul becomes a permanent flame within and shines forth. If you want to stay there for awhile, then others can see your light and respond to it. I'll not go much further into Robin's experience but I think this is where he was during his leading of an alternative spiritual movement. It was 100% genuine regarding the Soul carrying out its function of expansion. As the Atman continues to shine forth, extending one's boundaries, making them less distinct, melding one's identity with that of the Cosmos, the unity between us and others and everything else in our experience becomes more obvious. As the soul continues to radiate outward from deeper and deeper within us, that cosmic energy we become permeates everything. Everything. At that point, the lights seem to go out! Holy shit, what happened? The light we (the personal and Impersonal self) are radiating becomes so pervasive, inside and out, that life is at once transformed, becoming progressively more interesting, captivating and beautiful, while remaining exactly as it was before. So we no longer see the contrast between the light that we are, and the light now everywhere else. We are no longer witnessing, or perhaps the witness has come out to play. There is no longer the longing for *peak* experiences that we used to want, but instead, it is *all* very much better.:-) In order to witness, there has to be something distinct from something else. There has to be the unfettered ;-) bliss of the soul, the personal Being, distinct from everything else, and we are residing in Being, looking out as it were on everything else. People describe witnessing as being so free! so weightless almost, just in a big cloud of bliss, mind almost empty. It is an awesome feeling, but not a complete one. Even the witness has to be transcended in order to for enlightenment to continue, and continue it will. There is no way to put the soul back to sleep once it wakes up, and one Day of Enlightenment lasts a very, very, very long time! :-) Beautiful, very enlightening ! Thank you for posting this !
[FairfieldLife] Vote Uncommitted with the Democrats #occupycaucus
Six Ways Iowa Progressives Will Caucus | The Nation http://www.thenation.com/blog/165408/six-ways-iowa-progressives-will-ca\ ucus www.thenation.com http://www.thenation.com/ 'Uncommitted' slates have won Iowa caucuses before. In 1972 and 1976, more Democratic caucus votes were cast for the 'uncommitted' option than for any of the announced candidates. As recently as 1992, 'uncommitted' beat Bill Clinton. On the Republican side, 'uncommitted' beat Dob Dole in the 1980 caucus race, and Alexander Haig in 1988. This year, an 'Occupy Iowa Caucus; initiative is urging voters to attend caucuses and back 'uncommitted' slates. Occupy Iowa Caucus: A Democrat Uncommitted in 2012 or Why I Won't Caucus for Obama a Second Time http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_1\ 181722.html www.huffingtonpost.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ The question now for Iowa Democrats is, will they blindly stand by their man or will they express their dissatisfaction with Obama's complete failure to follow through on what he promised us during his first tour through the Iowa countryside? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_11\ 81722.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_1\ 181722.html Jefferson County Democratic Party Caucus Lincoln Elementary School401 W. Stone, Fairfield, IA 6:00 PM: The Doors will Open 6:30 PM: Registration Opens7:00 PM: Caucus Called to OrderLocation manager reads agenda for the evening2012 Campaign Presentation- Local surrogate discusses the importance of getting involved and electing Democrats- President Obama will be calling and live streaming via webcast into sites across the state 7:30 PM*: Presentation by the Iowa Democratic Party Letters from elected officials may be read aloud, any officials present may address the caucus 7:45 PM*: Group splits into individual precinctsElection of Permanent Precinct Chair and Precinct Secretary Election of Delegates and Alternates Election of Delegates and Alternates Election of Platform Committee on Committees MembersElection of Precinct Committee Persons Resolution Discussion and Adoption 8:30 PM*: Caucus Adjourns *Times may vary depending upon caucus location Delegate Selection Process Iowa Democrats who wish to become a delegate to the county, district, state, or national convention must begin that process on caucus night by running in their precinct. Each precinct is apportioned delegates based on the size of their county's convention and past Democratic performance. Once elected on caucus night, a delegate must attend their county convention and run as a delegate to the district and state convention. From there, they would be elected as a delegate to the national convention in Charlotte, NC. There will be a total of 1200 delegates elected to the state convention, which will take place on June 16th, 2012 in Des Moines. Resolution Process Caucus goers may submit a resolution in their precinct on caucus night. Adopted resolutions will be given to the county platform committee who will determine which resolutions are presented at the county convention. Preference Groups Democrats will only form preference groups if at least 15 percent of the attendees wish to do so. If the caucus agrees to form preference groups, delegates are proportionally awarded to any group that meets the viability threshold (15 percent in most precincts). If a group is not viable when preference groups are initially formed, those individuals may realign and support a viable candidate. Delegates are then assigned. Results ReportingThe Iowa Democratic Party will collect data from caucus locations and make it available to reporters throughout the night. Members of the Iowa Democratic Party media list will receive a link to results once most precincts have reported their data.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
Glad you find it useful! Enlightenment is anything but static. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: Hi Judy, you wrote, You do understand that Robin does not claim to be enlightened and is not seeking enlightenment, that he thinks it's a snare and a delusion, that he believes he was enlightened decades ago and has made a huge effort since then to de-enlighten himself. After reading a lot of what Robin writes about enlightenment and his experience being enlightened, he says he was witnessing the whole time. That stuck out when I read it. Enlightenment as it grows, and it always grows if it is real, eats up and integrates witnessing. There is a period following waking up or the stabilizing of Self Realization, where witnessing everything, seeing the frictionless flow of life and your silent place in it, dominates perception. Freedom! Absence of fear! A great influx of cosmic energy as the Atman or Soul becomes a permanent flame within and shines forth. If you want to stay there for awhile, then others can see your light and respond to it. I'll not go much further into Robin's experience but I think this is where he was during his leading of an alternative spiritual movement. It was 100% genuine regarding the Soul carrying out its function of expansion. As the Atman continues to shine forth, extending one's boundaries, making them less distinct, melding one's identity with that of the Cosmos, the unity between us and others and everything else in our experience becomes more obvious. As the soul continues to radiate outward from deeper and deeper within us, that cosmic energy we become permeates everything. Everything. At that point, the lights seem to go out! Holy shit, what happened? The light we (the personal and Impersonal self) are radiating becomes so pervasive, inside and out, that life is at once transformed, becoming progressively more interesting, captivating and beautiful, while remaining exactly as it was before. So we no longer see the contrast between the light that we are, and the light now everywhere else. We are no longer witnessing, or perhaps the witness has come out to play. There is no longer the longing for *peak* experiences that we used to want, but instead, it is *all* very much better.:-) In order to witness, there has to be something distinct from something else. There has to be the unfettered ;-) bliss of the soul, the personal Being, distinct from everything else, and we are residing in Being, looking out as it were on everything else. People describe witnessing as being so free! so weightless almost, just in a big cloud of bliss, mind almost empty. It is an awesome feeling, but not a complete one. Even the witness has to be transcended in order to for enlightenment to continue, and continue it will. There is no way to put the soul back to sleep once it wakes up, and one Day of Enlightenment lasts a very, very, very long time! :-) Beautiful, very enlightening ! Thank you for posting this !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
Eeek! Oh!!! OMFG! How horrible! An older woman making chit chat with a younger dude! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkXFaf4yhKs Curty, your lace is showing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS-ts5_nuF8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: From #300483 Judy: Kiss-kiss-KISS!! That picture of Ravi IS hot. #300136 Judy: Ravi!! SO glad to see you back. Kiss-kiss. Very cool video, this one. If I may ask, how the heck did you get the car to bounce in time with the music?? That's 50, and I'm out till the weekend. You better still be here, you hear? You know we can all read all the posts and can search them too right? And if you don't want to get tweeked for being an older woman crushing on a younger man you can take it up with Ravi who refers to you as his lover and as one of his older women who he pleases with his wonderfulness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? Curtis, I believe you've taken this out of context. Â I was teasing Ravi about his cute photo (IMO) and mentioned in my post that Obba or Judy might give him a kiss-kiss as there was also a short string of tease posts that had already happened where Obba had used that term. Â Judy was likely just playing on my post and replying in the affirmative around the pic only. Â This was my post. Â I don't believe I am misquoting Judy, Straw man. Nobody said you were misquoting me. What you did, as Emily correctly notes, was take my comment out of context, inserting it into yours and implying I was supporting Ravi because I had the hots for him (with an unpleasant oblique reference to my age to boot). Wrong, dude. I was tweaking *you*. Ravi just happened to be the one you were reacting badly to. My remarks to you were about *you*, not Ravi. WTF are you talking about here? I reacted badly. But not Ravi the flame thrower. You are really digging yourself in deeper in your double down routine Judy but if you want to let it ride I'll accommodate your foolishness. But I'm pretty sure you knew that. Hence the disingenuous denial that you were misquoting me. I got it right, sorry it isn't too flattering.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
Both clips are great. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Eeek! Oh!!! OMFG! How horrible! An older woman making chit chat with a younger dude! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkXFaf4yhKs Curty, your lace is showing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS-ts5_nuF8 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: From #300483 Judy: Kiss-kiss-KISS!! That picture of Ravi IS hot. #300136 Judy: Ravi!! SO glad to see you back. Kiss-kiss. Very cool video, this one. If I may ask, how the heck did you get the car to bounce in time with the music?? That's 50, and I'm out till the weekend. You better still be here, you hear? You know we can all read all the posts and can search them too right? And if you don't want to get tweeked for being an older woman crushing on a younger man you can take it up with Ravi who refers to you as his lover and as one of his older women who he pleases with his wonderfulness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? Curtis, I believe you've taken this out of context. Â I was teasing Ravi about his cute photo (IMO) and mentioned in my post that Obba or Judy might give him a kiss-kiss as there was also a short string of tease posts that had already happened where Obba had used that term. Â Judy was likely just playing on my post and replying in the affirmative around the pic only. Â This was my post. Â I don't believe I am misquoting Judy, Straw man. Nobody said you were misquoting me. What you did, as Emily correctly notes, was take my comment out of context, inserting it into yours and implying I was supporting Ravi because I had the hots for him (with an unpleasant oblique reference to my age to boot). Wrong, dude. I was tweaking *you*. Ravi just happened to be the one you were reacting badly to. My remarks to you were about *you*, not Ravi. WTF are you talking about here? I reacted badly. But not Ravi the flame thrower. You are really digging yourself in deeper in your double down routine Judy but if you want to let it ride I'll accommodate your foolishness. But I'm pretty sure you knew that. Hence the disingenuous denial that you were misquoting me. I got it right, sorry it isn't too flattering.
[FairfieldLife] Intermission
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyoBVDi2fIsfeature=g-vreccontext=G230ccd9RVAQ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intermission
I am speechless! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyoBVDi2fIsfeature=g-vreccontext=G230ccd9RVAQ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote Uncommitted with the Democrats #occupycaucus
Many of the Democrats enthralled with Ron Paul seem to be the same Democrats enthralled with Obama. IMO support for Ron Paul is another gambit into the cult of personality. I never drank the Obama Kool-Aid, so I got called a racist for supporting Hillary in 2008. Ironically, many of those same Democrats now support Ron Paul who *is* a racist. Go figure. Just curious, how many Democrats formerly in love with Obama but now in love with Ron Paul will admit they thought Hillary supporters were racists? Off to caucus Uncommitted with the Democrats. Bye. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Six Ways Iowa Progressives Will Caucus | The Nation http://www.thenation.com/blog/165408/six-ways-iowa-progressives-will-ca\ ucus www.thenation.com http://www.thenation.com/ 'Uncommitted' slates have won Iowa caucuses before. In 1972 and 1976, more Democratic caucus votes were cast for the 'uncommitted' option than for any of the announced candidates. As recently as 1992, 'uncommitted' beat Bill Clinton. On the Republican side, 'uncommitted' beat Dob Dole in the 1980 caucus race, and Alexander Haig in 1988. This year, an 'Occupy Iowa Caucus; initiative is urging voters to attend caucuses and back 'uncommitted' slates. Occupy Iowa Caucus: A Democrat Uncommitted in 2012 or Why I Won't Caucus for Obama a Second Time http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_1\ 181722.html www.huffingtonpost.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ The question now for Iowa Democrats is, will they blindly stand by their man or will they express their dissatisfaction with Obama's complete failure to follow through on what he promised us during his first tour through the Iowa countryside? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_11\ 81722.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_1\ 181722.html Jefferson County Democratic Party Caucus Lincoln Elementary School401 W. Stone, Fairfield, IA 6:00 PM: The Doors will Open 6:30 PM: Registration Opens7:00 PM: Caucus Called to OrderLocation manager reads agenda for the evening2012 Campaign Presentation- Local surrogate discusses the importance of getting involved and electing Democrats- President Obama will be calling and live streaming via webcast into sites across the state 7:30 PM*: Presentation by the Iowa Democratic Party Letters from elected officials may be read aloud, any officials present may address the caucus 7:45 PM*: Group splits into individual precinctsElection of Permanent Precinct Chair and Precinct Secretary Election of Delegates and Alternates Election of Delegates and Alternates Election of Platform Committee on Committees MembersElection of Precinct Committee Persons Resolution Discussion and Adoption 8:30 PM*: Caucus Adjourns *Times may vary depending upon caucus location Delegate Selection Process Iowa Democrats who wish to become a delegate to the county, district, state, or national convention must begin that process on caucus night by running in their precinct. Each precinct is apportioned delegates based on the size of their county's convention and past Democratic performance. Once elected on caucus night, a delegate must attend their county convention and run as a delegate to the district and state convention. From there, they would be elected as a delegate to the national convention in Charlotte, NC. There will be a total of 1200 delegates elected to the state convention, which will take place on June 16th, 2012 in Des Moines. Resolution Process Caucus goers may submit a resolution in their precinct on caucus night. Adopted resolutions will be given to the county platform committee who will determine which resolutions are presented at the county convention. Preference Groups Democrats will only form preference groups if at least 15 percent of the attendees wish to do so. If the caucus agrees to form preference groups, delegates are proportionally awarded to any group that meets the viability threshold (15 percent in most precincts). If a group is not viable when preference groups are initially formed, those individuals may realign and support a viable candidate. Delegates are then assigned. Results ReportingThe Iowa Democratic Party will collect data from caucus locations and make it available to reporters throughout the night. Members of the Iowa Democratic Party media list will receive a link to results once most precincts have reported their data.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
Curtis, what you are implying is so out of touch here - you really took the whole thing outta context. This is hysterically funny. Are you trying to embarrass Judy? Is January 3rd turning out to be a bad day? Lighten up man, go get some exercise. Does wonders for the endorphins and will cheer you up immensely. I'm an older woman too - poor Ravi - he has no idea how lucky he is. And, by the way, although I'm older and I have had kids...mine are real and they are spectacular to riff off of Seinfeld and respond to that one crack you made in your post to Ravi as he was off to his Rukmini. Doesn't pay to stereotype. You may be missing out on more than you are aware of. Gotta go now and enjoy my natural high...hope you can achieve this yourself today. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..) From #300483 Judy: Kiss-kiss-KISS!! That picture of Ravi IS hot. #300136 Judy: Ravi!! SO glad to see you back. Kiss-kiss. Very cool video, this one. If I may ask, how the heck did you get the car to bounce in time with the music?? That's 50, and I'm out till the weekend. You better still be here, you hear? You know we can all read all the posts and can search them too right? And if you don't want to get tweeked for being an older woman crushing on a younger man you can take it up with Ravi who refers to you as his lover and as one of his older women who he pleases with his wonderfulness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? Curtis, I believe you've taken this out of context. Â I was teasing Ravi about his cute photo (IMO) and mentioned in my post that Obba or Judy might give him a kiss-kiss as there was also a short string of tease posts that had already happened where Obba had used that term. Â Judy was likely just playing on my post and replying in the affirmative around the pic only. Â This was my post. Â I don't believe I am misquoting Judy, Straw man. Nobody said you were misquoting me. What you did, as Emily correctly notes, was take my comment out of context, inserting it into yours and implying I was supporting Ravi because I had the hots for him (with an unpleasant oblique reference to my age to boot). Wrong, dude. I was tweaking *you*. Ravi just happened to be the one you were reacting badly to. My remarks to you were about *you*, not Ravi. WTF are you talking about here? I reacted badly. But not Ravi the flame thrower. You are really digging yourself in deeper in your double down routine Judy but if you want to let it ride I'll accommodate your foolishness. But I'm pretty sure you knew that. Hence the disingenuous denial that you were misquoting me. I got it right, sorry it isn't too flattering.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote Uncommitted with the Democrats #occupycaucus
This is one of the most vile, putrid, ridicules spins I have read,what you have posted, raunchy, using the democrat and republican spin switcharoo. Yeah, bye. Fits right in with the no ID required to vote in the Iowa primary, when everyone is very sensitive to vote fraud, all of a sudden, an ID is not necessary? http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9016 At the Florida Republican straw poll, no ID was required to vote either, even though everyone had to pay $275.00 a person to attend, but who voted? Huh? Let me email you an application to join the military right now, because every other candidate has war on their minds. I do not think the Maharishi wanted war. Jesus, neither. Psst, Ron Paul is not a racist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeuSa0oIB6A PS, my family has given time in the Military for you to be free, so please do not say I don't support our troops. I do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: Many of the Democrats enthralled with Ron Paul seem to be the same Democrats enthralled with Obama. IMO support for Ron Paul is another gambit into the cult of personality. I never drank the Obama Kool-Aid, so I got called a racist for supporting Hillary in 2008. Ironically, many of those same Democrats now support Ron Paul who *is* a racist. Go figure. Just curious, how many Democrats formerly in love with Obama but now in love with Ron Paul will admit they thought Hillary supporters were racists? Off to caucus Uncommitted with the Democrats. Bye. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Six Ways Iowa Progressives Will Caucus | The Nation http://www.thenation.com/blog/165408/six-ways-iowa-progressives-will-ca\ ucus www.thenation.com http://www.thenation.com/ 'Uncommitted' slates have won Iowa caucuses before. In 1972 and 1976, more Democratic caucus votes were cast for the 'uncommitted' option than for any of the announced candidates. As recently as 1992, 'uncommitted' beat Bill Clinton. On the Republican side, 'uncommitted' beat Dob Dole in the 1980 caucus race, and Alexander Haig in 1988. This year, an 'Occupy Iowa Caucus; initiative is urging voters to attend caucuses and back 'uncommitted' slates. Occupy Iowa Caucus: A Democrat Uncommitted in 2012 or Why I Won't Caucus for Obama a Second Time http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_1\ 181722.html www.huffingtonpost.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ The question now for Iowa Democrats is, will they blindly stand by their man or will they express their dissatisfaction with Obama's complete failure to follow through on what he promised us during his first tour through the Iowa countryside? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_11\ 81722.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_1\ 181722.html Jefferson County Democratic Party Caucus Lincoln Elementary School401 W. Stone, Fairfield, IA 6:00 PM: The Doors will Open 6:30 PM: Registration Opens7:00 PM: Caucus Called to OrderLocation manager reads agenda for the evening2012 Campaign Presentation- Local surrogate discusses the importance of getting involved and electing Democrats- President Obama will be calling and live streaming via webcast into sites across the state 7:30 PM*: Presentation by the Iowa Democratic Party Letters from elected officials may be read aloud, any officials present may address the caucus 7:45 PM*: Group splits into individual precinctsElection of Permanent Precinct Chair and Precinct Secretary Election of Delegates and Alternates Election of Delegates and Alternates Election of Platform Committee on Committees MembersElection of Precinct Committee Persons Resolution Discussion and Adoption 8:30 PM*: Caucus Adjourns *Times may vary depending upon caucus location Delegate Selection Process Iowa Democrats who wish to become a delegate to the county, district, state, or national convention must begin that process on caucus night by running in their precinct. Each precinct is apportioned delegates based on the size of their county's convention and past Democratic performance. Once elected on caucus night, a delegate must attend their county convention and run as a delegate to the district and state convention. From there, they would be elected as a delegate to the national convention in Charlotte, NC. There will be a total of 1200 delegates elected to the state convention, which will take place on June 16th, 2012 in Des Moines. Resolution Process Caucus goers may submit a resolution in their precinct on caucus night.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intermission
Truly an intermission then. : ) An awesome break in the Mahabharata of FFL! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@... wrote: I am speechless! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyoBVDi2fIsfeature=g-vreccontext=G230ccd9RVAQ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
On 01/03/2012 01:37 PM, John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 01/03/2012 12:05 PM, John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 01/03/2012 11:42 AM, John wrote: Nabs, All of this can be seen in the US natal chart. As a nation, the US considers itself to be a leader in the world stage and the standard bearer for democracy. Yes, we might get into another war over this. But realistically we can't afford another war. ROTFL! The US the standard bearer for democracy? Give me a break it is the standard bearer for unrestrained capitalism and quickly becoming a fascist police state. Don't let the FBI know what you're saying. You may find yourself being tailed by men in dark suits. They do and they might find themselves wandering aimlessly in the desert after I use the Uchattan siddhi on them. ;-) This siddhi is a new one. Can you explain to us this new power of yours? It's a tantric siddhi which confuses or makes the enemy crazy. Think Obe Wan telling the stormtrooper there are no droids here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip Whenever you have a god, and a relation thereto, you have duality, you do not have unity, or perhaps you have a broken unity. To have a relationship, there has to be a separation between you and whatever is not you. I do not think Robin, as Jason suggests, is an idiot. No one can write like he does and be an idiot. This is a subject about which eternal confusion exists. I think he is unwilling to give up his conception of god. If you are religious, this is the last barrier you have to give up to find out what that term 'god' represents. Enlightenment is not about gaining. It is about losing our illusion of what we think the world is all about, and when that illusion cracks, our personal world is bye bye, and that is a major stumbling block for many. The 'self' as opposed to 'Self' is an illusion. The 'Self' conceived as something even remotely like a 'self' (but maybe only bigger, better, grander, loftier), is an illusion created by our own mind. It is just a placeholder, like 'god' for an experience that cannot really be described to someone who has not had it. Kind of like you have a piece of blue jeans in your hand, and you show it to someone who has never seen the sky, and say 'this is what the sky looks like'. snip Xeno, you say Whenever you have a god, and a relation thereto, you have duality, you do not have unity, Yes and No. You may not know about it, but there is an important concept in bhakti yoga, called 'Unity in separation' (I'll have to search for the exact term.) Basically, it goes like this: As a devotee, you desire unification with your God. After you this happens, there could come a moment, when you remember the intense longing you used to have in your pre-union state, and ask God to bring you back to this state, where you had love and the longing for God, and God will then bring you back to this state of separation, where you again can have the exprience of longing and love. But as it is, you actually experience God through this longing and love, God is in the longing, and you are one with it. I remember of reading this first in a book about Anandamayi Ma, but it is a known concept in bhakti. It is called unity in separation. Thanks for this. My path was never bhakti yoga. Even though I practice TM, my world view when I started all this was closer to a stripped down Zen Buddhism (minus Buddha and Zen pretty much). I approached it all as if I were an atheist, without being particularly attached to that word. I kind of approached the whole thing as if it were a mystery, so my preconceptions were fairly dilute, though not absent. Okay, I see. The first thing I red about enlightenment came also from Zen and was a Newspaper article, which made me self experiment, I was still too young to really study it, and then came TM Union with god was never my goal. Rather the emptiness of a sense of what absolute is was my focus. Of course all these fancies were bullshit, but they have served to keep me from over fantasizing about 'the goal'. I can manipulate symbols like 'god' and 'transcendence' etc., abstractly, as if they were real things, and this was useful in my early years with TM and other stuff. And it helps to know how to use these words if talking with someone else, but it is like when Einstein used words like that, he did not mean what the average person would take these words to represent. When the water is cold, maybe there is a reluctance to jump in all at once. I guess in my case bhakti just creeps in without me explicitly wanting it. It just came, it must be a past life thing, sort of unavoidable. Btw., just as a reference here, I found the name of the concept, well the separation is called Viyoga. In some bhakti schools there is an interplay between Samyoga (a kind of a union with God, but unlike in Advaita) and Viyoga, the separation. This is so in one of the 6 Bhakti schools, in Pushti Marga of Vallabhacharya, a contemporary of Sri Chaitanya (known to most people as the grand daddy of the Hare Krishnas) In this school the viyoga (pang of separation) is looked upon higher as union, and it comes only after the climax of seeing God in everything. Pushti Marga or Suddhadvaita means 'pure Advaita', without a concept of maya.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
So you kinda missed the point of what I wrote then huh? OK. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Curtis, what you are implying is so out of touch here - you really took the whole thing outta context.  This is hysterically funny.  Are you trying to embarrass Judy?  Is January 3rd turning out to be a bad day?  Lighten up man, go get some exercise.  Does wonders for the endorphins and will cheer you up immensely.  I'm an older woman too - poor Ravi - he has no idea how lucky he is.  And, by the way, although I'm older and I have had kids...mine are real and they are spectacular to riff off of Seinfeld and respond to that one crack you made in your post to Ravi as he was off to his Rukmini.  Doesn't pay to stereotype.  You may be missing out  on more than you are aware of.  Gotta go now and enjoy my natural high...hope you can achieve this yourself today. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)  From #300483 Judy: Kiss-kiss-KISS!! That picture of Ravi IS hot. #300136 Judy: Ravi!! SO glad to see you back. Kiss-kiss. Very cool video, this one. If I may ask, how the heck did you get the car to bounce in time with the music?? That's 50, and I'm out till the weekend. You better still be here, you hear? You know we can all read all the posts and can search them too right? And if you don't want to get tweeked for being an older woman crushing on a younger man you can take it up with Ravi who refers to you as his lover and as one of his older women who he pleases with his wonderfulness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? Curtis, I believe you've taken this out of context. àI was teasing Ravi about his cute photo (IMO) and mentioned in my post that Obba or Judy might give him a kiss-kiss as there was also a short string of tease posts that had already happened where Obba had used that term. àJudy was likely just playing on my post and replying in the affirmative around the pic only. àThis was my post. àI don't believe I am misquoting Judy, Straw man. Nobody said you were misquoting me. What you did, as Emily correctly notes, was take my comment out of context, inserting it into yours and implying I was supporting Ravi because I had the hots for him (with an unpleasant oblique reference to my age to boot). Wrong, dude. I was tweaking *you*. Ravi just happened to be the one you were reacting badly to. My remarks to you were about *you*, not Ravi. WTF are you talking about here? I reacted badly. But not Ravi the flame thrower. You are really digging yourself in deeper in your double down routine Judy but if you want to let it ride I'll accommodate your foolishness. But I'm pretty sure you knew that. Hence the disingenuous denial that you were misquoting me. I got it right, sorry it isn't too flattering.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Sweet peace produced by Mother Divine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWjIM99kwlU Very nice ! But I must admit that Sri Chimnoys singers are much better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIuvYZds2kIfeature=related It's great music, I love it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
Nabs, You're correct. Here's a statement from the White House: http://news.yahoo.com/u-says-deployment-military-assets-gulf-continue-152616957.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Nabs, All of this can be seen in the US natal chart. As a nation, the US considers itself to be a leader in the world stage and the standard bearer for democracy. Yes, we might get into another war over this. But realistically we can't afford another war. But one wonders why Iran is making these provocative moves when their naval fleet is clearly outgunned by the US armada. It's no secret it's because the US threatens to expand sanctions again Iran. Their threats is an answer to American provocation. Why do I get a feeling I've heard this story before ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Intermission
Who's doing the half-time show? Oh right, says here a chariot ride around the arena, led by Arjuna... Then back to the second half of the *Mahabharata*Dharma*Bowl*2012*!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: Truly an intermission then. : ) An awesome break in the Mahabharata of FFL! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: I am speechless! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyoBVDi2fIsfeature=g-vreccontext=G230ccd9RVAQ
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Divine Blessing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: And reminder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG_ET-kUAuI Anandamayi Ma, so great. My first contact with the Divine feminine. I was at her samadhi in kankhal.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Nabs, You're correct. Here's a statement from the White House: http://news.yahoo.com/u-says-deployment-military-assets-gulf-continue-152616957.html Somehow the americans must wipe out the war-mongers in their midst. And drastically reduce their war-industry. If not they are doomed.
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Dec 31 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Jan 07 00:00:00 2012 466 messages as of (UTC) Wed Jan 04 00:09:24 2012 50 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com 45 authfriend jst...@panix.com 40 futur.musik futur.mu...@yahoo.com 36 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com 26 obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com 25 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 25 Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com 24 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 22 seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 20 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 19 Susan waybac...@yahoo.com 17 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 12 richardatrwilliamsdotus rich...@rwilliams.us 11 John jr_...@yahoo.com 9 merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 9 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 8 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com 7 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com 7 Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com 6 zarzari_786 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 6 feste37 fest...@yahoo.com 5 marekreavis reavisma...@sbcglobal.net 4 shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca 4 maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com 4 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 4 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com 4 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net 2 merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de 2 jpgillam jpgil...@yahoo.com 2 azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com 2 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 2 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 1 ynorthr ynor...@yahoo.co.uk 1 wgm4u anitaoak...@att.net 1 sittingduck165203 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 shanti2218411 shanti2218...@yahoo.com 1 shainm307 shainm...@yahoo.com 1 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com 1 kc...@epix.net kc...@epix.net Posters: 39 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Iran Warns US Aircraft Carrier
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 01/03/2012 01:37 PM, John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 01/03/2012 12:05 PM, John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 01/03/2012 11:42 AM, John wrote: Nabs, All of this can be seen in the US natal chart. As a nation, the US considers itself to be a leader in the world stage and the standard bearer for democracy. Yes, we might get into another war over this. But realistically we can't afford another war. ROTFL! The US the standard bearer for democracy? Give me a break it is the standard bearer for unrestrained capitalism and quickly becoming a fascist police state. Don't let the FBI know what you're saying. You may find yourself being tailed by men in dark suits. They do and they might find themselves wandering aimlessly in the desert after I use the Uchattan siddhi on them. ;-) This siddhi is a new one. Can you explain to us this new power of yours? It's a tantric siddhi which confuses or makes the enemy crazy. Think Obe Wan telling the stormtrooper there are no droids here. According to a Yogi I met in Vrindavan they used yogic powers to confuse the instruments of pakistani jets during the last war. Explaining why so many of the seemingly randomly flew straight into mountains and crashed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The problem Atheists have
Hi Xeno, Glad you enjoyed it. It has taken me awhile of watching and reflecting to write this down. As is often the case, it became quite clear once I decided to express it. If you want to discuss it more, that would be fun! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: This is a fascinating post and, if I have more time soon I would like to address this and Judy's comment on my post. When this process happens, there can be a lot of disorientation. Enlightenment can be like being sucked into a black hole as all of your personal stuff is dissembled. Instinctively one hangs onto this stuff of our ignorance, but the process in not under personal control. We hang on because there is resistance to having these past knots in us see the light of day. Maharishi and other teachers have said this experience proceeds differently for different people, so one person's experience cannot be mapped onto another's as if using a template. Perhaps this is a measure of remaining 'stresses' in the system. Robin's case is really intriguing. Futur.musik, this was a really cool post; it helped illuminate what's happening to me by providing an alternate manner of expressing it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, futur.musik futur.musik@ wrote: Hi Judy, you wrote, You do understand that Robin does not claim to be enlightened and is not seeking enlightenment, that he thinks it's a snare and a delusion, that he believes he was enlightened decades ago and has made a huge effort since then to de-enlighten himself. After reading a lot of what Robin writes about enlightenment and his experience being enlightened, he says he was witnessing the whole time. That stuck out when I read it. Enlightenment as it grows, and it always grows if it is real, eats up and integrates witnessing. There is a period following waking up or the stabilizing of Self Realization, where witnessing everything, seeing the frictionless flow of life and your silent place in it, dominates perception. Freedom! Absence of fear! A great influx of cosmic energy as the Atman or Soul becomes a permanent flame within and shines forth. If you want to stay there for awhile, then others can see your light and respond to it. I'll not go much further into Robin's experience but I think this is where he was during his leading of an alternative spiritual movement. It was 100% genuine regarding the Soul carrying out its function of expansion. As the Atman continues to shine forth, extending one's boundaries, making them less distinct, melding one's identity with that of the Cosmos, the unity between us and others and everything else in our experience becomes more obvious. As the soul continues to radiate outward from deeper and deeper within us, that cosmic energy we become permeates everything. Everything. At that point, the lights seem to go out! Holy shit, what happened? The light we (the personal and Impersonal self) are radiating becomes so pervasive, inside and out, that life is at once transformed, becoming progressively more interesting, captivating and beautiful, while remaining exactly as it was before. So we no longer see the contrast between the light that we are, and the light now everywhere else. We are no longer witnessing, or perhaps the witness has come out to play. There is no longer the longing for *peak* experiences that we used to want, but instead, it is *all* very much better.:-) In order to witness, there has to be something distinct from something else. There has to be the unfettered ;-) bliss of the soul, the personal Being, distinct from everything else, and we are residing in Being, looking out as it were on everything else. People describe witnessing as being so free! so weightless almost, just in a big cloud of bliss, mind almost empty. It is an awesome feeling, but not a complete one. Even the witness has to be transcended in order to for enlightenment to continue, and continue it will. There is no way to put the soul back to sleep once it wakes up, and one Day of Enlightenment lasts a very, very, very long time! :-)
[FairfieldLife] Serpent Rainbow
by David Aronson, Alchemical Wedding.: http://www.alchemicalwedding.com/ptings/serprain.htm
[FairfieldLife] Endless Cycle
by Aronson http://www.alchemicalwedding.com/ptings/ecycle.htm
[FairfieldLife] Rooney Mara's transformation
http://www.zimbio.com/Rooney+Mara/articles/mJ9v3zM345E/Rooney+Mara+Piercing+Tattoo+Transformation
[FairfieldLife] Mayan Zodiac Totem Animals
by Egleton http://www.art-poster-online.com/mayan_zodiac_animals.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Curtis, what you are implying is so out of touch here - you really took the whole thing outta context. This is hysterically funny. Are you trying to embarrass Judy? I'm just humiliated, Emily. Here I thought I was being SO subtle in pursuing my desperate crush on Ravi, but Curtis has found me out; he was able to track down the incriminating posts that I was sure nobody but Ravi would ever notice. How will I ever live this down? Thanks for trying to mislead Curtis to help me out, but it just won't work; my secret is exposed now for all to see. I can only hope it doesn't embarrass Ravi too much. He's been so discreet, the darling man, trying to protect me from myself while being so careful not to make me feel rejected. zarzari had the same nitwit notion awhile back. What IS it with these two? I disabused zarzari of that idiocy right quick, but you know he's sitting there now muttering, I *thought* so! She was lying to me! How do they tie their shoes in the morning?? Honest to pete, funniest thing I've read here in a LONG while. Hope Bob Price sees it next time he's here. I can't wait to see he'll say. And The Wife will really appreciate it. (Ravi, hon, I'll buy you a drink at the bar any time. We can sit around and laugh at Curtis.) Curtis, free clue: One of the fun, liberating things about being an older woman is that we get to flirt outrageously with hot guys without them getting the wrong idea. In my experience, they typically enjoy it and flirt right back without *us* getting the wrong idea. A few uptight somewhat older guys who somehow never managed to get the memo take in the action and *do* get the wrong idea. They're welcome to think whatever they like about what they're seeing as long as they keep their traps shut; after all, we're not flirting with *them*. But if they decide to go public, point fingers, and make a big deal of it, they get the appropriate ridicule. So now you've learned something, and hopefully you won't make the same stupid mistake again.  Is January 3rd turning out to be a bad day?  Lighten up man, go get some exercise.  Does wonders for the endorphins and will cheer you up immensely.  I'm an older woman too - poor Ravi - he has no idea how lucky he is.  And, by the way, although I'm older and I have had kids...mine are real and they are spectacular to riff off of Seinfeld and respond to that one crack you made in your post to Ravi as he was off to his Rukmini.  Doesn't pay to stereotype.  You may be missing out  on more than you are aware of.  Gotta go now and enjoy my natural high...hope you can achieve this yourself today. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 1:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)  From #300483 Judy: Kiss-kiss-KISS!! That picture of Ravi IS hot. #300136 Judy: Ravi!! SO glad to see you back. Kiss-kiss. Very cool video, this one. If I may ask, how the heck did you get the car to bounce in time with the music?? That's 50, and I'm out till the weekend. You better still be here, you hear? You know we can all read all the posts and can search them too right? And if you don't want to get tweeked for being an older woman crushing on a younger man you can take it up with Ravi who refers to you as his lover and as one of his older women who he pleases with his wonderfulness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: snip Then Judy joined in as if his tirade were just another cute thing the pool boy does as he cleans her pool as she sips vodka enhanced ice tea lemonades enjoying the view. Kiss kiss Ravi, you are so hot! See how it works Ravi, she would be buying YOU drinks in a bar, does it all make sense now why the hot young thing slipped out the back door while you found out the number she gave you was fake? Curtis, I believe you've taken this out of context. àI was teasing Ravi about his cute photo (IMO) and mentioned in my post that Obba or Judy might give him a kiss-kiss as there was also a short string of tease posts that had already happened where Obba had used that term. àJudy was likely just playing on my post and replying in the affirmative around the pic only. àThis was my post. àI don't believe I am misquoting Judy, Straw man. Nobody said you were misquoting me. What you did, as Emily correctly notes, was take my comment out of context, inserting it into yours and implying I was supporting Ravi because I had the hots for him (with an
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy new year to everyone !!! (And more love bombing..)
I'm glad we cleared the air on this topic Judy. I feel confident that the behavior I object to you will alter from this exchange. I know you can't admit it, but I am hopeful that despite your inability to admit it, you get my point. Spoiler alert: We can say anything to anyone here if we just call it insult tennis. Learn how below! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Snipped the dancing routine, sooo Nancy Grace in the groaning 3 inch heels. But this is the good part cuz her refusal to accept that she has been called out was just predictable. Here is where I start hearing the music from the start of the twilight zone in my head. It's amazing how Curtis engineered all this to make himself appear to be the totally blameless victim by a series of moves that's so convoluted nobody gets what he's done except those he's done it *to*. And not for the first time, either. That's one thing at which he's better than anyone here. And this is not the first time you have accused me of such a bizarre thing. And on a public board no less where we all read all the posts if we want to. And I am able to hide my deviousness from everyone but Judy, how can that be? Oh I know, it has to do with her inflated sense of her perceptive powers to detect evil, beyond all other posters reading the same posts. And here we have a splendid example of exactly what I was talking about. First let's delete the word evil in Curtis's attempted paraphrase of my assertion; he knows it isn't a word, or even a concept, I would use in this context, but it helps him load his argument by making what I said seem so much more extreme. From everyone but Judy and beyond all other posters reading the same posts--well, no; as Curtis is very much aware, Robin came to the same conclusion. As it happens, Robin and I are the only two people here who have had extended disagreements with Curtis and thus have had detailed, intimate experience of how Curtis operates when he's challenged. You really have to be on the receiving end for a lengthy exchange to see how he does it. In briefer exchanges, a person may just have a vague sense that something got twisted somehow that they have a hard time analyzing and articulating. But the same process is at work. So it has nothing to do with any special perceptive abilities on my (or Robin's) part; that notion is just more of Curtis's argument-loading. It's prolonged exposure that confers the ability to see what's going on. But when you *have* had prolonged exposure to Curtis's brand of twisting, it becomes quite obvious in the shorter exchanges as well. Nor are there special powers involved on Curtis's part. Rather, it's a finely honed skill born of long practice in self-defense and self-justification. So now that we've disposed of Curtis's argument-loading weasel words, what actually happened? We have Curtis's version below, in great detail. Gotchya, you and Robin share this special insight on me. Here's mine. In post #300408, Curtis made a nasty comment on a post of Ravi's that was designed to provoke Ravi. Nothing in Ravi's post, or in his other posts quoted in that one, referred to Curtis in any way. He did take a shot at Barry, but not at Curtis, contrary to Curtis's claim below. So Curtis's slam was entirely gratuitous. It so you think you are gunna wear me down do you you? Let's see. From that post: Unlike the sexually repressed Gurus projected as avatars or messiahs of intellectual dishonesty In previous post Ravi has been calling me the Avatar of intellectual dishonesty and Judy dishonestly is pretending to not know that. I had ignored his previous taunts but had had enough. So you can drop the gratuitous BS. Next, Ravi himself claimed the whole post was a lie directed toward me. But you knew that. And it wasn't a nasty comment it was accurate. His denials of his sexual desire is exactly as phoney as from evangelists preachers. It would have been nasty to describe his behavior in clubs as being like the Steve Martin character in the Wild and Crazy Guy skits, an obvious connection I refrained from making. It got a reaction from Ravi, a pretty mild one. He followed up before Curtis could reply with some nastier invective, the worst of which was to call Curtis dishonest and retarded. Glad you are cool with the term retarded Judy and saw no reason to back up my request that he stick to other versions of poopy pants that don't involve disabled people. It is kind of an up topic for me so I made that request of him. As usual having found a hot button, he doubled down. Curtis responded by essentially implying that Ravi was a pervert (shady horniness), following through
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote Uncommitted with the Democrats #occupycaucus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote: This is one of the most vile, putrid, ridicules spins I have read,what you have posted, raunchy, using the democrat and republican spin switcharoo. Yeah, bye. WTF are you talking about?? Fits right in with the no ID required to vote in the Iowa primary, when everyone is very sensitive to vote fraud, all of a sudden, an ID is not necessary? Voter fraud is a *myth* perpetrated by Republicans who want to impose stricter rules designed to keep minorities, older people, and students--i.e., Democrats mostly--from voting. The hypocrites here are the *Republicans*, not Democrats like raunchy. snip Let me email you an application to join the military right now, because every other candidate has war on their minds. Every other *Republican* candidate. raunchy is a Democrat. She is not one of the misguided Democrats who are voting for Ron Paul in the caucuses. I do not think the Maharishi wanted war. Jesus, neither. Psst, Ron Paul is not a racist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeuSa0oIB6A He's got a big problem with the newsletters that went out in his name some years ago that were overtly, disgracefully racist (and homophobic). He claims he didn't know what was in them, but even if that's true, it hardly exonerates him. What kind of public figure allows newsletters promoting him and his views to be sent out without reviewing them? In any case, he has more than enough other nutcase positions to make him a highly undesirable presidential candidate. PS, my family has given time in the Military for you to be free, so please do not say I don't support our troops. I do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Many of the Democrats enthralled with Ron Paul seem to be the same Democrats enthralled with Obama. IMO support for Ron Paul is another gambit into the cult of personality. I never drank the Obama Kool-Aid, so I got called a racist for supporting Hillary in 2008. Ironically, many of those same Democrats now support Ron Paul who *is* a racist. Go figure. Just curious, how many Democrats formerly in love with Obama but now in love with Ron Paul will admit they thought Hillary supporters were racists? Off to caucus Uncommitted with the Democrats. Bye. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Six Ways Iowa Progressives Will Caucus | The Nation http://www.thenation.com/blog/165408/six-ways-iowa-progressives-will-ca\ ucus www.thenation.com http://www.thenation.com/ 'Uncommitted' slates have won Iowa caucuses before. In 1972 and 1976, more Democratic caucus votes were cast for the 'uncommitted' option than for any of the announced candidates. As recently as 1992, 'uncommitted' beat Bill Clinton. On the Republican side, 'uncommitted' beat Dob Dole in the 1980 caucus race, and Alexander Haig in 1988. This year, an 'Occupy Iowa Caucus; initiative is urging voters to attend caucuses and back 'uncommitted' slates. Occupy Iowa Caucus: A Democrat Uncommitted in 2012 or Why I Won't Caucus for Obama a Second Time http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_1\ 181722.html www.huffingtonpost.com http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ The question now for Iowa Democrats is, will they blindly stand by their man or will they express their dissatisfaction with Obama's complete failure to follow through on what he promised us during his first tour through the Iowa countryside? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_11\ 81722.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-murphy/occupy-iowa-caucus-a-demo_b_1\ 181722.html Jefferson County Democratic Party Caucus Lincoln Elementary School401 W. Stone, Fairfield, IA 6:00 PM: The Doors will Open 6:30 PM: Registration Opens7:00 PM: Caucus Called to OrderLocation manager reads agenda for the evening2012 Campaign Presentation- Local surrogate discusses the importance of getting involved and electing Democrats- President Obama will be calling and live streaming via webcast into sites across the state 7:30 PM*: Presentation by the Iowa Democratic Party Letters from elected officials may be read aloud, any officials present may address the caucus 7:45 PM*: Group splits into individual precinctsElection of Permanent Precinct Chair and Precinct Secretary Election of Delegates and Alternates Election of Delegates and Alternates Election of Platform Committee on Committees MembersElection of Precinct Committee Persons Resolution Discussion and Adoption 8:30 PM*: Caucus Adjourns
[FairfieldLife] Rose Drummers
by Henryk Fantazos http://henrykfantazos.us/Recent_Paintings/pages/Rose%20Drummers.htm
