[FairfieldLife] Re: Attack in Libya
If Romney was president, he would shoot first and aim later. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: The Obama administration suspects that the fiery attack in Libya that killed the American ambassador and three other diplomats may have been planned rather than a spontaneous mob getting out of control, American officials said Wednesday. http://skydancingblog.com/2012/09/12/was-the-embassy-assault-a-planned-attack/
[FairfieldLife] Does YF...
...decrease the risk of diabetes??
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does YF...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: ...decrease the risk of diabetes?? http://lifehacker.com/5879536/how-sitting-all-day-is-damaging-your-body-and-how-you-can-counteract-it
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does YF...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: ...decrease the risk of diabetes?? Having written several articles on the worldwide diabetes epidemic lately, I seriously doubt it. The only component of yogic flying that would fall into known risk-reducing categories would be the five minutes or so of exercise gained from using one's muscles to bounce around. That *would* be an advantage to those who lead an otherwise sedentary lifestyle (one of the biggest risk factors for Type 2 diabetes), but a greater effect would be seen from just walking 20 minutes per day. BTW, the country with the highest percentage of diabetes on the planet is India. An estimated 11% to 20% of India's urban population has diabetes, and 3% to 5% of the adult rural population has the disease. Estimates from the World Health Organization say that the disease currently costs India about $250 billion per year, and that in the next ten years this figure will skyrocket to $335 billion. The worst part is that these figures can only continue to skyrocket. This is partly due to cultural differences (what is seen as fat in the US is seen as normal or even desired in much of India), genetic predisposition, and the adoption of an unhealthy American lifestyle (lots of nutrition-free fast foods and less and less exercise) that make India the population most at risk from diabetes. What is worst is who is being affected. In the West, the onset of Type 2 diabetes is most commonly seen in adults in their 40s and 50s. In India, it's affecting people in their early to mid 20s. According to the International Journal of Diabetes in Developing Countries, the alarming increase in diabetes in India has gone beyond epidemic form to a pandemic one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Attack in Libya
If GWB were still president, he would solve the problem in Libya by invading Norway. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: If Romney was president, he would shoot first and aim later. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: The Obama administration suspects that the fiery attack in Libya that killed the American ambassador and three other diplomats may have been planned rather than a spontaneous mob getting out of control, American officials said Wednesday. http://skydancingblog.com/2012/09/12/was-the-embassy-assault-a-planned-attack/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does YF...
Thank you, Carde, great info. Thinking I should get one of those standing computer desks. Then desk can be diabetes free ha ha. Four years ago my doc told me I was pre Type II and likely to get it since my Mom did. That did it for me motivation wise. Was already off dairy. Simply cut out all high glycemic carbs for 1 week. No pasta, rice or grains other than oatmeal. Saw such an improvement in my body that I was encouraged to continue. Lost 40 pounds. Have kept off 31 of that. I feel for people who live in non walkable places and believe this is a huge factor in the problem. All my family members live in outer suburbs which means that have to get in the car to go anywhere. Also people just don't understand about sugar and where it's found. For example, I've tried to teach my Mom who now has to inject herself once a day, that milk lactose is actually a sugar. Best not to have first thing in the morning. That sugar craving then set up for the rest of the day. Will power has VERY little to do with it. Ok, I'm ranting or something. Bye for now and thanks again. From: cardemaister cardemais...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 2:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does YF... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: ...decrease the risk of diabetes?? http://lifehacker.com/5879536/how-sitting-all-day-is-damaging-your-body-and-how-you-can-counteract-it
[FairfieldLife] Goodbye Lancaster, Massachusetts facility
This message was at the top of an email announcing a Columbus Day residence course and World Peace Assembly: This facility is on the market and may soon be sold. This is likely the last chance for a course in this special location. Another property bites the dust! Anyone interested in attending the course? Columbus Day Weekend October 5-7 or 8, 2012 Course Fees* (per person: includes full course program, room, and all meals) All rooms have private bath. (2 of standard and all of economy rooms have their private bath directly across the hall) Economy rooms are very simple and have hooks for hanging clothes (no closet). 3 nights: Single Room $548 economy; $648 standard; $748 luxury; $828 royal Shared Room couples only...$628 luxury; $678 royal 2 nights: Single Room $418 economy; $498 standard; $568 luxury; $618 royal Shared Room couples only...$488 luxury; $518 royal To register: https://newenglandgc.securesites.com/residencecourse/index2.html Please state your room grade request in the comments field of the application. *Discounts for New TM Practitioners $50 (2 nights) to $75 (3 nights) (your first Residence Course within 6 months of your TM instruction) *These fees are the check/cash discount rate. For credit card please add $27. Richard and Gail Dalby 203.248.3000 newha...@tm.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: About real world vs FFL: my Vancouver ex and I met in a forum. We lived together for a year. Now we're sweet friends, emailing most days. So realness increased somehow and continues to. Plus in person I know Rick and Alex and Robert and now Raunchy and even Buck though I doubt he remembers when we sat next to each other at a lecture. It sounds like feste lives a few blocks from me. And do they come across and seem exactly like they are at FFL? Do you know them well enough offline to be able to judge this or have you had more interactions with them online? I knew you and Curtis long ago. I knew Ravi on a previous forum. I still interact with Jim on another forum. At a funeral I read something beautiful that Edg wrote about a deceased and beloved member of that other forum. It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.) I'm just saying that realness, in this online social context, for me, exists on a continuum. And it can be wonderful when realness increases. Most definitely there is some realness. But, like I said, the scenery is cardboard and the stars are little studio lights. Share From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, sometimes foolish, sometimes wise we are.àBecause this is a learning place.àWe are all going to make mistakes.àGood to develop wise compassion.àEven about ourselves.àAnd to apologize if appropriate.àMake amends.àIntend to do better next time.àAct wisely to mature the undeveloped aspects of ourselves.àTM, Sedona Method, mindfulness, lovingkindness, humor, ect.àWhatever helps us become a better person, more loving, more truthful. This is the best anyone can do.àAnd it is good enough to do.àI am open to other thoughts and suggestions.àI think, with all due respect Share, that if you want to develop and practice these noble aspirations that you list above then do this in the 'real world'. FFL is simply not that. Many of us are not quite as we seem here at FFL as we are offline. I know this for a fact. It is like trying to practice real medicine on some hospital theme soap opera. FFL is a place to stretch some boundaries, to play a little and sometimes to fight but you aren't going to change anyone here and many times sincerity and vulnerability get sacrificed, brutally. Don't take this place or your role in it too seriously. That would be my best advice. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! àOh Mama Aunty Share play with her kids and they won't let Share be Sedon(a)-izingàher kids- demons today, Letting them out for their weekly foray. Sharing can't make them leave, and they won't let Share be if she don't let them come out to play? The fat one on the slide is it Rage? He was good, so he's out of the cage. He doesn't play nice, and sometimes, he bites; Yeah, he's hard to assuage. The cute one, you may like is Lust. For her, the see-saw's a must. But don't let her fool you, she's really quite cruel, too. In fact, it's her you shouldn't` trust. See little one there is named Pout. (Bet you guessed what he's all about.) He loves to swing on wingyàswings, and sometimes, breaking things, if Share don't give in to her shouts. Look the last one outside is Sorrow. She plays with toys that are borrowed. A real downer, she is. Doesn't like
[FairfieldLife] Re: Attack in Libya
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: If Romney was president, he would shoot first and aim later. Great. Just what we need in the White House, another wannabee cowboy itching for a war. Republicans suck at diplomacy. Romney should STFU. His scripted attacks against Obama seem to have backfired. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/middleeast/la-na-libya-campaign-20120913,0,1662505.story --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: The Obama administration suspects that the fiery attack in Libya that killed the American ambassador and three other diplomats may have been planned rather than a spontaneous mob getting out of control, American officials said Wednesday. http://skydancingblog.com/2012/09/12/was-the-embassy-assault-a-planned-attack/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Attack in Libya
The Obama administration suspects that the fiery attack in Libya that killed the American ambassador and three other diplomats may have been planned If Romney was president, he would shoot first and aim later. raunchydog: Great. Just what we need in the White House, another wannabee cowboy itching for a war. So, let's just take all the weapons away from the embassy staff, so they can't shoot anyone, and bring all the marines home that protect the embassy! That would bring down the national debt and at the same time, make Obama look like a Muslim religious sympathizer - then peace, worldwide. Republicans suck at diplomacy. So, the killing in Libya is a U.S. political and religious issue. But, it wasn't Obama that sent out the Cairo apology - it was Hillary Clinton's State Department! It is because we are cowards, unwilling to stand up for the principles on which this nation was founded. And because that is a religion which is almost uniquely anti-western, and that also explains a lot about why the Left is in sympathy toward it, and its feelings. http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=44475 Romney should STFU. His scripted attacks against Obama seem to have backfired. 'Death of Ambassador Stevens Is America's Shame, Hillary's and Obama's' http://tinyurl.com/9rfl6kn Obama rejects Netanyahu meeting, invites Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood president to talk... http://tinyurl.com/9vh8c48
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing.According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not meditators nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome What strikes me about this whole sad business is that it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed, presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted by an Egyptian Christian.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome What strikes me about this whole sad business is that it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed, presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted by an Egyptian Christian.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 turquoiseb: Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. What strikes me about this whole sad business is that it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed, presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted by an Egyptian Christian. According to the Wall Street Journal, the film depicts the Muslim prophet Muhammed as a womanizer, pedophile and fraud! An anti-Muslim film that has been blamed for the attacks on U.S. embassies in Egypt, Libya and Yemen is likely a contrived fraud designed to stir up unrest in the Middle East while shielding the true reasons behind the murder of Ambassador Chris Stevens. infowars: http://tinyurl.com/9w628lb Muhammad Movie Trailer? http://youtu.be/_Kuz5PCYcQg http://youtu.be/qmodVun16Q4
Re: [FairfieldLife] New Video: Gem Mineral Show
thanks, Raunchy, wonderful video. I made my annual geode purchase on Saturday. Got a small but beautiful one with maroon swirls. From Mexico. A little different from anything already in my collection. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] New Video: Gem Mineral Show Sac Fox Lapidary Club organizes a Gem Mineral Show at the Fairfield Arts Convention Center annually. This year they invited the Brown Otter Dancers, Meskwaki Nation, Tama Iowa. http://youtu.be/cQTCYdeXKDM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
I concur that online and offline are different beasts. I do take greater license online in stretching the boundaries than I would offline. I received a very unpleasant private email yesterday from Sal Sunshine telling me to BUTT OUT of the dialogue between Robin and Curtis. Now, that dialogue has gone offline so it's not up for comment anyhow. I have a lot of respect for them both, honestly. Sal, if it's on FFL it is fair game. Those are the rules. If you can't handle the heat get out of the fire. That's what I do from time to time. Do *not* email me privately again. If you do, I will post it directly to FFL. If you would like to say something to me, post it here at FFL. I sent your email to Curtis and Judy, because it freaked me out and those were the only two people at the time that I could remember that knew you in some fashion from FFL and whose emails were listed here. I was looking for perspective on that email because it was *so* angry. I apologize to Judy and Curtis for forwarding bad energy. It won't happen again. Now, Sal, I am headed off on vacation and won't be posting for a few weeks, so I will most definitely be BUTTING OUT. Ya'll take good care of yourselves and I mean that sincerely. Emily. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: About real world vs FFL: my Vancouver ex and I met in a forum. We lived together for a year. Now we're sweet friends, emailing most days. So realness increased somehow and continues to. Plus in person I know Rick and Alex and Robert and now Raunchy and even Buck though I doubt he remembers when we sat next to each other at a lecture. It sounds like feste lives a few blocks from me. And do they come across and seem exactly like they are at FFL? Do you know them well enough offline to be able to judge this or have you had more interactions with them online? I knew you and Curtis long ago. I knew Ravi on a previous forum. I still interact with Jim on another forum. At a funeral I read something beautiful that Edg wrote about a deceased and beloved member of that other forum. It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.) I'm just saying that realness, in this online social context, for me, exists on a continuum. And it can be wonderful when realness increases. Most definitely there is some realness. But, like I said, the scenery is cardboard and the stars are little studio lights. Share From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, sometimes foolish, sometimes wise we are. Because this is a learning place. We are all going to make mistakes. Good to develop wise compassion. Even about ourselves. And to apologize if appropriate. Make amends. Intend to do better next time. Act wisely to mature the undeveloped aspects of ourselves. TM, Sedona Method, mindfulness, lovingkindness, humor, ect. Whatever helps us become a better person, more loving, more truthful. This is the best anyone can do. And it is good enough to do. I am open to other thoughts and suggestions. I think, with all due respect Share, that if you want to develop and practice these noble aspirations that you list above then do this in the 'real world'. FFL is simply not that. Many of us are not quite as we seem here at FFL as we are offline. I know this for a fact. It is like trying to practice real
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can enter the zone during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they may be simultaneously experiencing higher states of consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of higher states of consciousness, which include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of functioning; and a sense of perfection. What strikes me about this whole sad business is that it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed, presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted by an Egyptian Christian.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
LOL. Your reply, eloquent in its wordlessness and its use of one simple graphic to capture the essence of the situation, is priceless. I'm glad I'm not the only person here who has perceived something a little off in Ann's behavior. I mean, this is a person who was, at the end of her Robin experience, herded up onto a stage in front of other followers and (as I understand it) told that she was possessed by demons, and then cast out of the group. She reacted at the time (again, as I understand it, based on things she has said here) by turning whistleblower and orchestrating a media expose of Robin and his antics that resulted in him being essentially chased out of town and ending his reign as Cult Leader In Chief. Robin himself has neither said hello to her since her arrival here, interacted with her in any way, or even recognized her existence. Yet Ann has teamed up with Judy and others to constantly defend him and chastise those who suspect he's more insane than spirit- ually advanced, and that essentially nothing has changed in his behavior over the years. His act here on Fairfield Life strikes us as *remarkably* like what his act was described as being back in the day. Ann seems to disagree, and has essentially taken upon herself the role of groupie to an aging spiritual rock star who, from his side, doesn't even acknowledge that she exists. This all strikes me as somewhat curious. But then, on FFL, many things do. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.)
[FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US
It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can enter the zone during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they may be simultaneously experiencing higher states of consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of higher states of consciousness, which include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of functioning; and a sense of perfection. What strikes me about this whole sad business is that it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed, presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted by an Egyptian Christian.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. John, when was the last time you actually *left* the United States, traveled in other parts of the world, and talked with the people who live there? While it is possible that extremist groups such as Al Quaeda are involved in the demonstrations and turmoil, their participation is not necessary to create anti-American sentiment. They would not have to pay off people in the Middle East or anywhere else to distrust and dislike America and all it stands for; they do that anyway. America is one of the most potent symbols of the global oppression that has rendered their lives as miserable as they are. Are these protestors possibly religious fanatics, who have have a completely unrealistic view of the importance of Mohammed and what people should be allowed to say about him? Absolutely. ALL religious fanatics are...uh...fanatics, and thus arguably insane. But the things they dislike about America, its influence in their countries, and its actions over the last few decades are based in fact, not in religious doctrine. America is simply not to be trusted. Even Europeans understand that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US
John: It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. With our anemic and effeminate foreign policy, we've ceded both Egypt and Libya to the Islamists, so it's better to bring the Americans home. It's done. Our Middle East policy has been a failure, top to bottom, side to side, front to back. 'Marines Headed To Libya To Reinforce Security' http://tinyurl.com/9kwe68w
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
turquoiseb: Robin himself has neither said hello to her since her arrival here, interacted with her in any way, or even recognized her existence... So, it's all about Robin and Ann. LoL! LOL. Your reply, eloquent in its wordlessness and its use of one simple graphic to capture the essence of the situation, is priceless. I'm glad I'm not the only person here who has perceived something a little off in Ann's behavior. I mean, this is a person who was, at the end of her Robin experience, herded up onto a stage in front of other followers and (as I understand it) told that she was possessed by demons, and then cast out of the group. She reacted at the time (again, as I understand it, based on things she has said here) by turning whistleblower and orchestrating a media expose of Robin and his antics that resulted in him being essentially chased out of town and ending his reign as Cult Leader In Chief. Robin himself has neither said hello to her since her arrival here, interacted with her in any way, or even recognized her existence. Yet Ann has teamed up with Judy and others to constantly defend him and chastise those who suspect he's more insane than spirit- ually advanced, and that essentially nothing has changed in his behavior over the years. His act here on Fairfield Life strikes us as *remarkably* like what his act was described as being back in the day. Ann seems to disagree, and has essentially taken upon herself the role of groupie to an aging spiritual rock star who, from his side, doesn't even acknowledge that she exists. This all strikes me as somewhat curious. But then, on FFL, many things do. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'. As I have contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively practice non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or spirituality. Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can enter the zone during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they may be simultaneously experiencing higher states of consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of higher states of consciousness, which include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of functioning; and a sense of perfection. What strikes me about this whole sad business is that it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed, presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted by an Egyptian Christian.
[FairfieldLife] From the Ruins of Empire
Pankaj Mishra's new book, From the Ruins of Empire, which challenges Western narratives of the 'white man's burden', has been raising hackles in the West and in India. Such reactions are pointers to an existing imbalance in cultural and political power, he tells Tabish Khair. Excerpts from a conversation. Pankaj Mishra is not a stranger to controversy, but his new book, From the Ruins of Empire, has been met with a barrage of criticism, implicit and explicit, from not just right-wing circles in the West but also from some British authors who cannot be described as right wing. Of course, there have been very positive reviews too: Piers Brendon's review in the Literary Review states that the book incisively anatomizes what Orwell called the 'slimy humbug' of the white man's burden. In another review, John Gray bestows unstinted praise on the book as 'an assault on false consciousness and self-deception in both east and west'. On the other hand, right-wing and conservative reviewers have attacked the book for being a 'polemic' and not seeing the (mostly) 'good sides' of the British Empire. One complex example of this reaction was provided by the historian Dominic Sandbrook, who reviewed it for the Sunday Times: Sandbrook is known for his belief that the British Empire was a 'beacon for tolerance, decency, and the rule of law'. More interestingly, the British novelist, Philip Hensher, who cannot be considered politically right-wing, was also evidently upset by the book: in the Spectator, he dubbed it 'disappointingly blinkered'. Among other things, Hensher critiqued Mishra's account of the Jallianwala Bagh massacre for underplaying British fair-handedness (because, after all, the British officer in charge 'was suspended') and accused him of being soft on Chairman Mao. TK - In your new book, From the Ruins of Empire, you discuss people like Al Afghani, who are considered by many to be the intellectual progenitors of today's Islamism. How can you justify that? PM - I think there is no reason for us to bring to Islamism or political Islam the fear and ignorance of Western commentators and their hysterical vocabulary. Islamism itself is such a broad and nearly meaningless word as used by the mainstream Western press, including everything from Turkey's AKP party to al Qaeda. Al-Afghani was a very complex figure, who manifested many political tendencies from pan-Islamism to Hindu-Muslim unity we saw later in South Asia and West Asia. And his disciples ranged from Saad Zaghlul, the Egyptian nationalist, James Sanua, the Jewish playwright, to Rashid Rida, the inspiration for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. My book shows, too, how overtly Islamic movements grew under the lash of European imperialism, which made the more liberal and secular forms of anti-colonial nationalism look impotent. TK - But then, can’t this also be said of what is now known as Hindutva in India as a broad movement with similar 19th century roots? PM - Up to a point, but then we can't claim Aurobindo, who I quote at some length in my book, as the predecessor of Praveen Togadia. There is a huge difference between the anti-colonial nationalism of 19th century Hindu activists and thinkers and the business-friendly Chief Minister of Gujarat who desperately wants a visa to the U.S. I think there is a serious problem with the history of ideas, which I have tried to avoid, when it starts connecting apparently similar movements and ideologies without regard to specific political contexts. TK - I am struck by the responses to your book in the British right-wing press, all of which describe you as a mere 'polemicist'. They also see your book as a response to Niall Ferguson, though obviously you conceived and wrote it long before your piece on him appeared. PM - I am actually relieved to see these kinds of responses, because they accurately reflect the GREAT imbalance of power in the intellectual as well as political realm what the Asian voices in my book describe and protest against. For a long time, Western histories simply suppressed non-western perspectives nobody cared what the 'native' thought. But even today, the benignly universalist West creates the standards of judgement, and the historian at the imperial metropole of course writes the truly objective and coolly rational history. And the non-westerner challenging it with other perspectives is prone to be described and discredited as no more than a polemicist (The word is usual preceded by a damning adjective like 'left-wing' and 'angry'). In this 'universalist' and 'cosmopolitan' perspective from the West, the parochial-minded native always responds and reacts, he doesn't initiate anything or have original thoughts, let alone a history, of his own. But, you know, it is getting too late for this kind of ideological trickery. TK - Which brings us to your famous
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Thanks, Ann but too late about being slammed. I was slammed for my very second post, my first being a reply to Marek's surf report. Me asking about body surfing on west coast. I guessed it was a safe topic for my FFL debut. As for my second post, it was very brief, mentioned Hagelin. So gave me a chance to, in true nurse fashion, take the temperature of the group. Anyway, I think we're all a mix. Of what? I could say of positive and negative. But to be really accurate I have to say we're all a mix of what I find positive and what I find negative. Even the people who I know in person. And sometimes they surprise me too. So over the months I've been discovering not only what I find positive and negative but also what I'm willing to engage with and what I'm unwilling to engage with. This latter has taken more time for sure. Just like it does in person. Did you know that these days 50% of people meet their partners online? So online is not necessarily a dead end in terms of deepening realness and closeness. And, as the 50 divorce rate suggests, in person is not necessarily a guarantee of deepening realness and closeness. In this sense in person and online aren't so different. But I like your last metaphor anyway. Share PS Given that I've found everyone a mix, I haven't really put anyone into a category. Pretty early on I discovered that even the anticipated pro TM anti TM polarity did not hold up in all discussions. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: About real world vs FFL: my Vancouver ex and I met in a forum. We lived together for a year. Now we're sweet friends, emailing most days. So realness increased somehow and continues to. Plus in person I know Rick and Alex and Robert and now Raunchy and even Buck though I doubt he remembers when we sat next to each other at a lecture. It sounds like feste lives a few blocks from me. And do they come across and seem exactly like they are at FFL? Do you know them well enough offline to be able to judge this or have you had more interactions with them online? I knew you and Curtis long ago. I knew Ravi on a previous forum. I still interact with Jim on another forum. At a funeral I read something beautiful that Edg wrote about a deceased and beloved member of that other forum. It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.) I'm just saying that realness, in this online social context, for me, exists on a continuum. And it can be wonderful when realness increases. Most definitely there is some realness. But, like I said, the scenery is cardboard and the stars are little studio lights. Share From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, sometimes foolish, sometimes wise we are. Because this is a learning place. We are all going to make mistakes. Good to develop wise compassion. Even about ourselves. And to apologize if appropriate. Make amends. Intend to do better next time. Act wisely to mature the undeveloped aspects of ourselves. TM, Sedona Method, mindfulness, lovingkindness, humor, ect. Whatever helps us become a better person, more loving, more truthful. This is the best anyone can do. And it is good enough to do. I am open to other thoughts and suggestions. I think, with all due respect Share, that if you want to develop and practice these noble aspirations
Re: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
What's happening in the US chart? I've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Ann but too late about being slammed. I was slammed for my very second post, my first being a reply to Marek's surf report. Me asking about body surfing on west coast. I guessed it was a safe topic for my FFL debut. As for my second post, it was very brief, mentioned Hagelin. So gave me a chance to, in true nurse fashion, take the temperature of the group. Although I rarely read Share's posts, much less reply to them, I'm going to do what I know that Judy (our official Upholder Of Truth And Honesty) will not and point out a few discrepancies in the account above. First, the post mentioning Hagelin was Share's fifth on FFL, not her second. Second, I just glanced through the replies to this post, and the closest I can even *imagine* to being a slam was one of mine, replying to Hagelin's silly theories -- not to Share -- with a simple graphic: [Can I get A Woo-Woo! Shirt by 1392255] I didn't read all of the responses in the thread, but glancing through them briefly I saw *none* that slammed Share. Not a one. I challenge her to produce the one or ones that did. I'm posting this as a reminder of the thing that happens so often here, and that I think that happened in this case, and has warped Share's memory of events. A number of people responded to her posting of Hagelin's silly ideas by making fun of his *ideas* or of *him*. Why do I get the feeling that Share interpreted this as slamming her?
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'. As I have contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively practice non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or spirituality. Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can enter the zone during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they may be simultaneously experiencing higher states of consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of higher states of consciousness, which include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of functioning; and a sense of perfection. Yes, well according to the science if there's no alpha wave coherence between the parts of the brain then there's no transcendence. And yes, there's a lot of 'meditation' out there that is not only non-alpha coherent but also evident incoherence producing practice. Like, what are all those people doing 'five times a day' on their knees? The problem we all have is all that non-alpha incoherent 'non-meditation' and an evident drag of non-meditators out there. In a modern world we certainly want for a better public health policy for everyone having to do with healthy brain physiology that should uplift everyone out of the stone age. That is worth fighting for. -Buck What strikes me about this whole sad business is that it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed, presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted by an Egyptian Christian.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome The experience of the transcendent is not unique to TM practitioners or peak performers; it's unique to human beings. It's what we experience when the activity of feeling and thinking and perception settle down and the mind experiences its most expanded state of awareness. It's the experience of pure unbounded consciousness and it's available to anyone. Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'. As I have contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively practice non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or spirituality. Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can enter the zone during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they may be simultaneously experiencing higher states of consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of higher states of consciousness, which include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of functioning; and a sense of perfection. Yes, well according to the science if there's no alpha wave coherence between the parts of the brain then there's no transcendence. And yes, there's a lot of 'meditation' out there that is not only non-alpha coherent but also evident incoherence producing practice. Like, what are all those people doing 'five times a day' on their knees? The problem we all have is all that non-alpha incoherent 'non-meditation' and an evident drag of non-meditators out there. In a modern world we certainly want for a better public health policy for everyone having to do with healthy brain physiology that should uplift everyone out of the stone age. That is worth fighting for. -Buck What strikes me about this whole sad business is that it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed, presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted by an Egyptian Christian.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
You're right, it was my fifth post. My first four posts were about surfing. I can see that I remembered it as my second post because it was the second topic I responded to. I used the word slam in my reply to Ann because that was the word she used. I took it to mean disagree with. And yes, I took the replies to mean that people didn't agree with me. Which I had been forewarned about and didn't mind. If I minded, I wouldn't have posted about Hagelin in the first place. I did not remember the woo woo graphic. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Ann but too late about being slammed. I was slammed for my very second post, my first being a reply to Marek's surf report. Me asking about body surfing on west coast. I guessed it was a safe topic for my FFL debut. As for my second post, it was very brief, mentioned Hagelin. So gave me a chance to, in true nurse fashion, take the temperature of the group. Although I rarely read Share's posts, much less reply to them, I'm going to do what I know that Judy (our official Upholder Of Truth And Honesty) will not and point out a few discrepancies in the account above. First, the post mentioning Hagelin was Share's fifth on FFL, not her second. Second, I just glanced through the replies to this post, and the closest I can even *imagine* to being a slam was one of mine, replying to Hagelin's silly theories -- not to Share -- with a simple graphic: I didn't read all of the responses in the thread, but glancing through them briefly I saw *none* that slammed Share. Not a one. I challenge her to produce the one or ones that did. I'm posting this as a reminder of the thing that happens so often here, and that I think that happened in this case, and has warped Share's memory of events. A number of people responded to her posting of Hagelin's silly ideas by making fun of his *ideas* or of *him*. Why do I get the feeling that Share interpreted this as slamming her?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I concur that online and offline are different beasts.  I do take greater license online in stretching the boundaries than I would offline.  I received a very unpleasant private email yesterday from Sal Sunshine telling me to BUTT OUT of the dialogue between Robin and Curtis.  Now, that dialogue has gone offline so it's not up for comment anyhow.  I have a lot of respect for them both, honestly.  Sal, if it's on FFL it is fair game.  Those are the rules.  If you can't handle the heat get out of the fire.  That's what I do from time to time.  Do *not* email me privately again.  If you do, I will post it directly to FFL.  If you would like to say something to me, post it here at FFL.  I sent your email to Curtis and Judy, because it freaked me out and those were the only two people at the time that I could remember that knew you in some fashion from FFL and whose emails were listed here.  I was looking for perspective on that email because it was *so* angry.  I apologize to Judy and Curtis for forwarding bad energy.  It won't happen again.   Now, Sal, I am headed off on vacation and won't be posting for a few weeks, so I will most definitely be BUTTING OUT.  Ya'll take good care of yourselves and I mean that sincerely.  Emily.    You too, and have a great vacation, away from the soap opera, the cardboard scenery and enjoy some fresh air and real dirt under your feet. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: About real world vs FFL:àmy Vancouver ex and I met in a forum.àWe lived together for a year.àNow we're sweet friends, emailing most days.àSo realness increased somehow and continues to.àPlus in person I know Rick and Alex and Robert and now Raunchy and even Buck though I doubt he remembers when we sat next to each other at a lecture. It sounds like feste lives a few blocks from me. And do they come across and seem exactly like they are at FFL? Do you know them well enough offline to be able to judge this or have you had more interactions with them online? I knew you and Curtis long ago.àI knew Ravi on a previous forum.àI still interact with Jim on another forum.àAt a funeral I read something beautiful that Edg wrote about a deceased and beloved member of that other forum. It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.) I'm just saying that realness, in this online social context, for me, exists on a continuum.àAnd it can be wonderful when realness increases.àMost definitely there is some realness. But, like I said, the scenery is cardboard and the stars are little studio lights. Share From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn! à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Yes, sometimes foolish, sometimes wise we are.ÃâàBecause this is a learning place.ÃâàWe are all going to make mistakes.ÃâàGood to develop wise compassion.ÃâàEven about ourselves.ÃâàAnd to apologize if appropriate.ÃâàMake amends.ÃâàIntend to do better next time.ÃâàAct wisely to mature the undeveloped aspects of ourselves.ÃâàTM, Sedona Method, mindfulness, lovingkindness, humor, ect.ÃâàWhatever helps us become a better person, more loving, more truthful. This is the best
[FairfieldLife] Narcopolis - The Secret History of Bombay
Jeet Thayil's 'Narcopolis' was nominated for the Man Booker longlist of 12 books. | EPS Jeet Thayil's 'Narcopolis' has an astonishing prologue. Titled, 'Something for the mouth', it is one long sentence that goes on for six-and-a-half pages. I was trying to reproduce the effects of an opium-induced dream, says Thayil. It is an open-ended kind of experience. How do you approximate that in language? You cannot do it in a short declarative Hemingwayesque type of sentence. It has to be long, multi-layered and simultaneous. 'Narcopolis' is about Mumbai in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s. Thayil spent several years there, in opium dens and in the shadowy underworld, where all sorts of characters can be found, including Dimple, a eunuch, an acclaimed painter Newton Xavier, and Chinese businessman Mr Lee. Interestingly, in the novel, the scene suddenly shifts from Mumbai to China, for about 70 pages. There is a reason why that happens, says Thayil. The secret history of Bombay is that its fortunes were built on opium. Between 1800 and 1840, about half a dozen Parsi ship owners got together with the British East India Company and shipped thousands of tonnes of opium to China, and turned a generation into addicts. And that money made Bombay the financial capital that it is today. All those Parsi ship owners later went on to build highways, roads, hospitals and art colleges. People have forgotten that, originally, the Parsis made their money by being drug dealers. People have also forgotten how Mumbai was like earlier. In the 1980s, it was a beautiful, laid-back, liberal and liberating sort of place, says Thayil. There was a sense of freedom in the air, but that has gone completely. Today, it is a tense place, and that isn't because of the traffic, the noise or the huge press of people. Thayil blames the Shiv Sena and the Hindu Right Wing for making Mumbai a fraught place, full of anxiety and fear. They have pitted community against community, he says. Much of the conversation that people used to have earlier one cannot have now because you have to be aware of the religious community that the person belongs to. Thayil admits that 'Nacropolis', is semi-autobiographical. A lot of the information is factual because I was part of that society for many years, he says. I fell into it by accident and was seduced by the romance of it. I had never seen anything like it before. (Incidentally, Thayil grew up in Hongkong, studied in New York and came to India only when he was 18.) Thayil, of course, paid a price for the access. He was a drug addict and alcoholic for 20 years. Looking back, it was a colossal waste of my life, he says. But he is clean now and his writing career is taking off. 'Nacropolis', which took him five years to write, has made waves. Just a few days ago, it was nominated for the Man Booker longlist of 12 books. This list was made from an initial batch of 145 books. In September, a further short-list of six books will be announced. Meanwhile, Thayil has been on a global tour promoting the book. He has been to South Africa, the United Kingdom, Switzerland, Italy, the United Arab Emirates and all over India. I am going to Brisbane, Edinburgh, Hongkong, Singapore, The Hague and Dubai in the next few months, he says. newindianexpress.com/cities/kochi/article577897.ece By Shevlin Sebastian / ENS - KOCHI 28th July 2012 08:28 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome The experience of the transcendent is not unique to TM practitioners or peak performers; it's unique to human beings. It's what we experience when the activity of feeling and thinking and perception settle down and the mind experiences its most expanded state of awareness. It's the experience of pure unbounded consciousness and it's available to anyone. Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'. As I have contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively practice non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or spirituality. Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can enter the zone during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they may be simultaneously experiencing higher states of consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of higher states of consciousness, which include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of functioning; and a sense of perfection. Yes, well according to the science if there's no alpha wave coherence between the parts of the brain then there's no transcendence. And yes, there's a lot of 'meditation' out there that is not only non-alpha coherent but also evident incoherence producing practice. Like, what are all those people doing 'five times a day' on their knees? And all those Buddhist no-alpha wave incoherent meditators in that part of the world they don't help neither. The problem we all have is all that non-alpha incoherent 'non-meditation' and an evident drag of non-meditators out there. In a modern world we certainly want for a better public health policy for everyone having to do with healthy brain physiology that should uplift everyone out of the stone age. That is worth fighting for. -Buck What strikes me about this whole sad business is that it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed, presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip Although I rarely read Share's posts, much less reply to them, I'm going to do what I know that Judy (our official Upholder Of Truth And Honesty) will not and point out a few discrepancies in the account above. Poor Barry's lost in confusion again because he doesn't read my posts. snip I didn't read all of the responses in the thread, but glancing through them briefly I saw *none* that slammed Share. Not a one. I challenge her to produce the one or ones that did. Yeah, why don't you just leave her the fuck alone? There's no earthly reason why she needs to respond to your dimwit challenges. Go wave your pathetic dick at somebody else. I'm posting this as a reminder of the thing that happens so often here, and that I think that happened in this case, and has warped Share's memory of events. A number of people responded to her posting of Hagelin's silly ideas by making fun of his *ideas* or of *him*. Why do I get the feeling that Share interpreted this as slamming her? Barry, NOBODY CARES. Trust me on this. Take a few placebos, you'll feel much better.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. A Norwegian researcher has published a new study on peak experiences among world-class performers in management, sports, classical music, and a variety of professions, which found that during optimal performance they spontaneously experience higher states of consciousness. Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome The experience of the transcendent is not unique to TM practitioners or peak performers; it's unique to human beings. It's what we experience when the activity of feeling and thinking and perception settle down and the mind experiences its most expanded state of awareness. It's the experience of pure unbounded consciousness and it's available to anyone. Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'. As I have contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively practice non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or spirituality. Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can enter the zone during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they may be simultaneously experiencing higher states of consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of higher states of consciousness, which include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of functioning; and a sense of perfection. Yes, well according to the science if there's no alpha wave coherence between the parts of the brain then there's no transcendence. And yes, there's a lot of 'meditation' out there that is not only non-alpha coherent but also evident incoherence producing practice. Like, what are all those people doing 'five times a day' on their knees? And all those Buddhist no-alpha wave incoherent meditators in that part of the world they don't help neither. The problem we all have is all that non-alpha incoherent 'non-meditation' and an evident drag of non-meditators out there. In a modern world we certainly want for a better public health policy
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US
Barry, I was actually in Manila, Philippines in 2006 for about three weeks. But I knew enough then NOT to be in Zamboanga, a southern province of the country where the Muslim insurgency is still strong. Your point is well taken in that religious fanaticism is not good for the individual and his or her country. It only brings about more suffering to everyone as can be seen in Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran. The Americans who are in these countries are in a catch-22. IOW, they're in a losing situation. Obama, as president, can request the government of those countries to keep the peace. But ultimately he will have to take appropriate measures if the situation gets worse. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. John, when was the last time you actually *left* the United States, traveled in other parts of the world, and talked with the people who live there? While it is possible that extremist groups such as Al Quaeda are involved in the demonstrations and turmoil, their participation is not necessary to create anti-American sentiment. They would not have to pay off people in the Middle East or anywhere else to distrust and dislike America and all it stands for; they do that anyway. America is one of the most potent symbols of the global oppression that has rendered their lives as miserable as they are. Are these protestors possibly religious fanatics, who have have a completely unrealistic view of the importance of Mohammed and what people should be allowed to say about him? Absolutely. ALL religious fanatics are...uh...fanatics, and thus arguably insane. But the things they dislike about America, its influence in their countries, and its actions over the last few decades are based in fact, not in religious doctrine. America is simply not to be trusted. Even Europeans understand that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US
Oh John , you sound like you've been listening to too much right-wing talk radio. The days of middle- eastern countries hating America, for it's policies, has been over for 31/2 years. They love us, because we've shown them we want to be just like them. Allah U Akbar, that's kind of like Jai Guru Dev for them! We even elected a president with a name that they can appreciate and will show compassion towards them and fuck those *Jews*, who cause problems, for everybody else. We just need to go along with the scenario that this was all caused by some Jew and christian collaborating to make a film offensive to Muslims, nudge, nudge, say no more. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US
Richard, The Americans do not have the right to interfere with the politics in Egypt and Libya. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: John: It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. With our anemic and effeminate foreign policy, we've ceded both Egypt and Libya to the Islamists, so it's better to bring the Americans home. It's done. Our Middle East policy has been a failure, top to bottom, side to side, front to back. 'Marines Headed To Libya To Reinforce Security' http://tinyurl.com/9kwe68w
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: LOL. Your reply, eloquent in its wordlessness and its use of one simple graphic to capture the essence of the situation, is priceless. Not sure if that graphic was a halo or a wedding ring. Perhaps if it was a wedding ring it refers to my term wedded, or perhaps not. That's the interesting thing about FFL you can interpret things in so many different ways. I'm glad I'm not the only person here who has perceived something a little off in Ann's behavior. I mean, this is a person who was, at the end of her Robin experience, herded up onto a stage in front of other followers and (as I understand it) told that she was possessed by demons, and then cast out of the group. Better than that, I was not possessed, I WAS a demon, an evil being. She reacted at the time (again, as I understand it, based on things she has said here) by turning whistleblower and orchestrating a media expose of Robin and his antics that resulted in him being essentially chased out of town and ending his reign as Cult Leader In Chief. Not for another 9 months or so, after I had returned to Chicago and discovered through intense self-reflection and self discovery and analysis that I wasn't, after all, the pure incarnation of evil I had been led to believe I was (much to my relief!). And I don't believe Robin was chased out of town, he left at some point about a year after I came back to Victoria and spoke to the newspaper. Robin himself has neither said hello to her since her arrival here, interacted with her in any way, or even recognized her existence. Yea, what the hell is with that? And after all I did for him. Yet Ann has teamed up with Judy and others to constantly defend him and chastise those who suspect he's more insane than spirit- ually advanced, and that essentially nothing has changed in his behavior over the years. His act here on Fairfield Life strikes us as *remarkably* like what his act was described as being back in the day. Ann seems to disagree, and has essentially taken upon herself the role of groupie to an aging spiritual rock star who, from his side, doesn't even acknowledge that she exists. Well, you know, I take responsibility for my part in participating in WTS and choosing to stick around. I changed a lot during and after the experiences. There was not a minute that I could not have packed my bags and boarded an airplane to leave. I was never forced to confront or be confronted, there were no shackles or chains. It wasn't always pretty but what real life-changing experiences are not without some ripping and tearing? I speak for no one but myself when I say I would not have changed a moment of my involvement and what happened during and after. So what about all of this would prompt me to hate and feel vengeful, spiteful or angry, especially 26 years later? Nothing. If Robin chooses not to interact with me here does it make a difference to me? No. What does he owe me? Nothing. What do I owe him? Nothing. But I will not sit here and listen to fabrications or untruths about Robin or anyone else, be it Emily, Share, Vaj or Feste. If I know something is being said that I feel is unfair then I will speak up. Simple as that. I guess you could call me a groupie for truth, or what is not falsehood from my point of view. Of course, as I said to someone the other day here, points of view are not absolute but they're all we've got most of the time. This all strikes me as somewhat curious. But then, on FFL, many things do. :-) Curious and curiouser. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
You know, this guy was also from Northern California and also spent time in the Peace Corp in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco. This is a region where the finest Moroccan hashish is grown and made. Maybe he was a stoner! From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome What strikes me about this whole sad business is that it's all caused by religion. The Embassy was stormed, presumably by fanatical Muslims, because they'd seen or heard about a couple of clips on YouTube of an anti-Islam film made by an Israeli Jew and promoted by an Egyptian Christian.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What's happening in the US chart? I've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US  It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. Easy to say after the fact but does any of this planetary activity allow you to predict anything? JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What's happening in the US chart? I've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US  It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US
Mike, From what I've read on the internet, the White House is trying to put out the fires whatever way they can. For example, Hillary Clinton has stated that she has seen the film in question and is appalled. The story is still evolving. So, stay tuned. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Oh John , you sound like you've been listening to too much right-wing talk radio. The days of middle- eastern countries hating America, for it's policies, has been over for 31/2 years. They love us, because we've shown them we want to be just like them. Allah U Akbar, that's kind of like Jai Guru Dev for them!  We even elected a president with a name that they can appreciate and will show compassion towards them and fuck those *Jews*, who cause problems, for everybody else. We just need to go along with the scenario that this was all caused by some Jew and christian collaborating to make a film offensive to Muslims, nudge, nudge, say no more. From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US  It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Attack in Libya
Maybe El Presidente needs to attend more of his intellegence briefings and less time campaign fund raising. But then the seas would stop rising and peace and calm would come over the world. He is the ONE. We're just going through a phase transition right now. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Attack in Libya The Obama administration suspects that the fiery attack in Libya that killed the American ambassador and three other diplomats may have been planned rather than a spontaneous mob getting out of control, American officials said Wednesday. http://skydancingblog.com/2012/09/12/was-the-embassy-assault-a-planned-attack/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. Easy to say after the fact but does any of this planetary activity allow you to predict anything? Awoe, I've already posted on August 14, 2012 here on FFL that the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn had started. Since then, we've experienced the hurricane damage in New Orleans and now the attacks on American embassies overseas. JR JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What's happening in the US chart? I've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US  It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Goodbye Lancaster, Massachusetts facility
FWIW, it's been on the market since last December. Someone posted the story at the time: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/297788 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@... wrote: This message was at the top of an email announcing a Columbus Day residence course and World Peace Assembly: This facility is on the market and may soon be sold. This is likely the last chance for a course in this special location. Another property bites the dust! Anyone interested in attending the course? Columbus Day Weekend October 5-7 or 8, 2012 Course Fees* (per person: includes full course program, room, and all meals) All rooms have private bath. (2 of standard and all of economy rooms have their private bath directly across the hall) Economy rooms are very simple and have hooks for hanging clothes (no closet). 3 nights: Single Room $548 economy; $648 standard; $748 luxury; $828 royal Shared Room couples only...$628 luxury; $678 royal 2 nights: Single Room $418 economy; $498 standard; $568 luxury; $618 royal Shared Room couples only...$488 luxury; $518 royal To register: https://newenglandgc.securesites.com/residencecourse/index2.html Please state your room grade request in the comments field of the application. *Discounts for New TM Practitioners $50 (2 nights) to $75 (3 nights) (your first Residence Course within 6 months of your TM instruction) *These fees are the check/cash discount rate. For credit card please add $27. Richard and Gail Dalby 203.248.3000 newhaven@...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. Easy to say after the fact but does any of this planetary activity allow you to predict anything? Awoe, I've already posted on August 14, 2012 here on FFL that the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn had started. Since then, we've experienced the hurricane damage in New Orleans and now the attacks on American embassies overseas. JR Thanks JR, but you know it is always easy to ascribe certain events to various causes after the fact. I am no expert on this particular phenomenon or study or science that you speak about so I am curious to know how it works, if at all and what it allows one to do before something is supposed to happen. In other words, what is the point of knowing what the constellations are doing? JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What's happening in the US chart? I've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US  It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
Geeez , all we have to do is some really big expensive yagyas and we could *avoid the suffering before it comes*. I bet M would have done the necessary yagyas for less than a billion dollars, of course no guarantees. We all know yagyas only deflect the karma. We'd still take a hit but it would'nt be as bad. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. Easy to say after the fact but does any of this planetary activity allow you to predict anything? Awoe, I've already posted on August 14, 2012 here on FFL that the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn had started. Since then, we've experienced the hurricane damage in New Orleans and now the attacks on American embassies overseas. JR Thanks JR, but you know it is always easy to ascribe certain events to various causes after the fact. I am no expert on this particular phenomenon or study or science that you speak about so I am curious to know how it works, if at all and what it allows one to do before something is supposed to happen. In other words, what is the point of knowing what the constellations are doing? JR --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What's happening in the US chart? I've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@ To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US  It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US
John: The Americans do not have the right to interfere with the politics in Egypt and Libya. March 19, 2011 United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 authorizes military intervention in Libyan civil war. 'Obama foreign policy in disarray' http://tinyurl.com/9v4xcwy It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. With our anemic and effeminate foreign policy, we've ceded both Egypt and Libya to the Islamists, so it's better to bring the Americans home. It's done. Our Middle East policy has been a failure, top to bottom, side to side, front to back. 'Marines Headed To Libya To Reinforce Security' http://tinyurl.com/9kwe68w
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US
jr_esq: From what I've read on the internet, the White House is trying to put out the fires whatever way they can. For example, Hillary Clinton has stated that she has seen the film in question and is appalled. The story is still evolving. So, stay tuned. You're thinking that Hillary watches YouTube? Muhammad Movie Trailer? http://youtu.be/_Kuz5PCYcQg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US
Mohammed, Schmohammed, it would have been better with Charlton Heston or Yule Brenner etc. etc. etc. So it is said, so it shall be written and so shall it be did. Nuff said. From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 12:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US jr_esq: From what I've read on the internet, the White House is trying to put out the fires whatever way they can. For example, Hillary Clinton has stated that she has seen the film in question and is appalled. The story is still evolving. So, stay tuned. You're thinking that Hillary watches YouTube? Muhammad Movie Trailer? http://youtu.be/_Kuz5PCYcQg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
Thanks, JR, I remembered that you said Sag is lagna. Don't know enough jyotish to make connection between 4th house and 11th. Makes sense. What might be significator that it's happening overseas rather than at home? Share From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: What's happening in the US chart? I've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US  It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, JR, I remembered that you said Sag is lagna. Don't know enough jyotish to make connection between 4th house and 11th. Makes sense. What might be significator that it's happening overseas rather than at home? What is happening overseas is actually happening at home. Share From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John  Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What's happening in the US chart?àI've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US àIt smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
Doc sez, with apologies to Saturn and Mars, personally, my life couldn't be better. The world is waking up, and sometimes it wakes up on the wrong side of the bed - lol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. Easy to say after the fact but does any of this planetary activity allow you to predict anything? Awoe, I've already posted on August 14, 2012 here on FFL that the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn had started. Since then, we've experienced the hurricane damage in New Orleans and now the attacks on American embassies overseas. JR JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What's happening in the US chart? I've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US  It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. A Norwegian researcher has published a new study on peak experiences among world-class performers in management, sports, classical music, and a variety of professions, which found that during optimal performance they spontaneously experience higher states of consciousness. Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome The experience of the transcendent is not unique to TM practitioners or peak performers; it's unique to human beings. It's what we experience when the activity of feeling and thinking and perception settle down and the mind experiences its most expanded state of awareness. It's the experience of pure unbounded consciousness and it's available to anyone. Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'. As I have contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively practice non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or spirituality. Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can enter the zone during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they may be simultaneously experiencing higher states of consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of higher states of consciousness, which include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of functioning; and a sense of perfection. Yes, well according to the science if there's no alpha wave coherence between the parts of the brain then there's no transcendence. And yes, there's a lot of 'meditation' out there that is not only non-alpha coherent but also evident incoherence producing practice. Like, what are all those people doing 'five times a day' on their knees? And all those Buddhist no-alpha wave incoherent meditators in that part of the world they don't help neither. The problem we all
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. A Norwegian researcher has published a new study on peak experiences among world-class performers in management, sports, classical music, and a variety of professions, which found that during optimal performance they spontaneously experience higher states of consciousness. Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome The experience of the transcendent is not unique to TM practitioners or peak performers; it's unique to human beings. It's what we experience when the activity of feeling and thinking and perception settle down and the mind experiences its most expanded state of awareness. It's the experience of pure unbounded consciousness and it's available to anyone. Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'. As I have contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively practice non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or spirituality. Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can enter the zone during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they may be simultaneously experiencing higher states of consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of higher states of consciousness, which include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of functioning; and a sense of perfection. Yes, well according to the science if there's no alpha wave coherence between the parts of the brain then there's no transcendence. And yes, there's a lot of 'meditation' out there that is not only non-alpha coherent but also evident incoherence producing practice. Like, what are all those people
[FairfieldLife] Is Jesus=God?
Hey Emily, I wrote a post in reply to you and did not send it until this afternoon. Post #31992o. It was in response to your question about what I believe when I am not in my believing in spirituality mode. Delayed reply, sorry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
What is that golden ring, by the way, and what does it mean Steve? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
It is an angel's halo. It was my attempt at a joke along with some truth, or at least my opinion thrown in. I just found it curious that you felt you needed to so clearly exempt Robin from any possible negative inference. I'll call it 80% joke. 20% jab. Is that an acceptable proportion? Or was it 60% joke, 40% jab. I'm just not sure. But it seemed funny to me at the time. And really still does. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: What is that golden ring, by the way, and what does it mean Steve? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
Share, In the US chart, the Moon is placed in Aquarius and Libra is the 9th house, signifying overseas or foreign lands, from the Moon position. Thus, we find the attack of American embassies in foreign lands. In jyotish, the analysis of the chart requires the assessment of the various ascendants or lagnas aside from the usual rising sign, which is Sagittarius for the USA. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, JR, I remembered that you said Sag is lagna. Don't know enough jyotish to make connection between 4th house and 11th. Makes sense. What might be significator that it's happening overseas rather than at home? Share From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John  Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What's happening in the US chart?àI've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US àIt smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
Doc, Take a look at your chart again. If the malefic conjunction is not affecting you personally, determine how its affecting your close relatives and friends. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Doc sez, with apologies to Saturn and Mars, personally, my life couldn't be better. The world is waking up, and sometimes it wakes up on the wrong side of the bed - lol --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. Easy to say after the fact but does any of this planetary activity allow you to predict anything? Awoe, I've already posted on August 14, 2012 here on FFL that the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn had started. Since then, we've experienced the hurricane damage in New Orleans and now the attacks on American embassies overseas. JR JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What's happening in the US chart? I've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US  It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. Easy to say after the fact but does any of this planetary activity allow you to predict anything? Awoe, I've already posted on August 14, 2012 here on FFL that the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn had started. Since then, we've experienced the hurricane damage in New Orleans and now the attacks on American embassies overseas. JR Thanks JR, but you know it is always easy to ascribe certain events to various causes after the fact. I am no expert on this particular phenomenon or study or science that you speak about so I am curious to know how it works, if at all and what it allows one to do before something is supposed to happen. In other words, what is the point of knowing what the constellations are doing? Awoe, You should learn the basic principles of jyotish. Here's a good video clip to start you off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0xPLx-oiYg Once you are familiar with the principles, you can apply them to the US chart. JR JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What's happening in the US chart? I've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US  It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: Well, you know, I take responsibility for my part in participating in WTS and choosing to stick around. I changed a lot during and after the experiences. There was not a minute that I could not have packed my bags and boarded an airplane to leave. I was never forced to confront or be confronted, there were no shackles or chains. It wasn't always pretty but what real life-changing experiences are not without some ripping and tearing? I speak for no one but myself when I say I would not have changed a moment of my involvement and what happened during and after. So what about all of this would prompt me to hate and feel vengeful, spiteful or angry, especially 26 years later? Nothing. If Robin chooses not to interact with me here does it make a difference to me? No. What does he owe me? Nothing. What do I owe him? Nothing. But I will not sit here and listen to fabrications or untruths about Robin or anyone else, be it Emily, Share, Vaj or Feste. If I know something is being said that I feel is unfair then I will speak up. Simple as that. I guess you could call me a groupie for truth, or what is not falsehood from my point of view. Of course, as I said to someone the other day here, points of view are not absolute but they're all we've got most of the time. Hey Ann, I just got a chance to read this. Good times. Good stuff.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@... wrote: It is an angel's halo. It was my attempt at a joke along with some truth, or at least my opinion thrown in. I just found it curious that you felt you needed to so clearly exempt Robin from any possible negative inference. Why? Oh, never mind, I know, you weren't following the context. You didn't even know who Ann was addressing. No wonder you were confused. I'll call it 80% joke. 20% jab. Is that an acceptable proportion? Or was it 60% joke, 40% jab. I'm just not sure. But it seemed funny to me at the time. And really still does. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: What is that golden ring, by the way, and what does it mean Steve? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
Judy, I suppose sometimes you are right about things. But so often you bore into minute issues that have no bearing on the bigger picture, that I have found it not usually worth the time to try to follow your train of thought. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@ wrote: It is an angel's halo. It was my attempt at a joke along with some truth, or at least my opinion thrown in. I just found it curious that you felt you needed to so clearly exempt Robin from any possible negative inference. Why? Oh, never mind, I know, you weren't following the context. You didn't even know who Ann was addressing. No wonder you were confused. I'll call it 80% joke. 20% jab. Is that an acceptable proportion? Or was it 60% joke, 40% jab. I'm just not sure. But it seemed funny to me at the time. And really still does. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: What is that golden ring, by the way, and what does it mean Steve? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. A Norwegian researcher has published a new study on peak experiences among world-class performers in management, sports, classical music, and a variety of professions, which found that during optimal performance they spontaneously experience higher states of consciousness. Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome The experience of the transcendent is not unique to TM practitioners or peak performers; it's unique to human beings. It's what we experience when the activity of feeling and thinking and perception settle down and the mind experiences its most expanded state of awareness. It's the experience of pure unbounded consciousness and it's available to anyone. Peak experiences, as described by top athletes and others 'in the zone' on top of their lives, might be able to be cultivated over time through regular alpha-coherence practice like that of TM as a meditation practice. Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'. As I have contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively practice non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or spirituality. Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can enter the zone during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they may be simultaneously experiencing higher states of consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of higher states of consciousness, which include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness, effortlessness, and ease of functioning; and a sense of perfection. Yes, well according to the science if there's no alpha wave coherence between the parts of the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. John, when was the last time you actually *left* the United States, traveled in other parts of the world, and talked with the people who live there? While it is possible that extremist groups such as Al Quaeda are involved in the demonstrations and turmoil, their participation is not necessary to create anti-American sentiment. Note that nowhere did John say it was necessary. The putdown of John in the first paragraph is entirely gratuitous.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Exemplar of Civic Virtue
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Obituary: J Christopher Stevens. In a dark place he was one of us. An Arjuna, A Statesman, A Mediator, A Meditator. Om Shanti. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19571272 Don't know why you call him a meditator, although he may well have been one, having grown up in California and been in the Peace Corps. A meditator? Well, this guy evidently was a world-class kind of person. What we know from science is that (TM) meditators exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the various parts of the brain. It turns out world-class people in their fields also exhibit high alpha wave coherence between the parts of their brains. Ergo, this guy is like us; a TM meditator by alpha wave coherence at least. He sounded like a very special person spiritually traveling in a darkened place of the world. A Norwegian researcher has published a new study on peak experiences among world-class performers in management, sports, classical music, and a variety of professions, which found that during optimal performance they spontaneously experience higher states of consciousness. Dr. Harung also found that top-level performers outscored the control groups in a test of moral development. Higher moral development implies an expanded awareness where the individual is able to satisfy the interests of other people and not just his or her own needs, according to Dr. Harung, who added that is remarkable that high levels of performance in a wide spectrum of activities are connected to high moral standards. I feel very sorry that a bunch of ignorant islamisists murdered him, took him out. We should collectively pause and mourn his passing. According to the science, people without high alpha wave coherence are not transcendental nor close to enlightenment. We have a lot more work to do in the world. -Buck in the Dome The experience of the transcendent is not unique to TM practitioners or peak performers; it's unique to human beings. It's what we experience when the activity of feeling and thinking and perception settle down and the mind experiences its most expanded state of awareness. It's the experience of pure unbounded consciousness and it's available to anyone. Peak experiences, as described by top athletes and others 'in the zone' on top of their lives, might be able to be cultivated over time through regular alpha-coherence practice like that of TM as a meditation practice. Yep, 'not transcendental and not close to enlightenment'. As I have contended before here, the problem we collectively are fighting here is low alpha-coherence non-meditation and all those others too who actively practice non-transcending meditations in the name of some religion or spirituality. Scientists have long known that top athletes, musicians, and executives can enter the zone during optimal performance; now, new research suggests they may be simultaneously experiencing higher states of consciousness. In a study published by the Journal of Human Values, Norwegian researcher Dr. Harald Harung found that world-class performers displayed unique brain wave characteristics that were distinct from those of the control group. He also found correlations between high performance and the subjective experience of higher states of consciousness, which include inner calmness and happiness amidst dynamic activity; maximum wakefulness,
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Sep 08 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat Sep 15 00:00:00 2012 578 messages as of (UTC) Fri Sep 14 00:14:30 2012 48 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 46 Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com 43 authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com 38 Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 35 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 34 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com 34 Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com 28 seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net 27 awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com 27 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com 23 Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us 20 merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 17 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 16 sparaig lengli...@cox.net 15 Susan waybac...@yahoo.com 12 doctordumb...@rocketmail.com, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR. 12 John jr_...@yahoo.com 10 wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com 9 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com 8 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 7 card cardemais...@yahoo.com 6 seventhray1 lurkernomore20002...@yahoo.com 6 maskedzebra maskedze...@yahoo.com 5 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 5 mjackson74 mjackso...@yahoo.com 5 Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com 4 dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 4 wle...@aol.com 3 wleed3 wle...@aol.com 3 wayback71 waybac...@yahoo.com 3 hawkeye422001 hawkeye422...@yahoo.com 3 feste37 fest...@yahoo.com 3 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 2 seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com 2 merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de 2 jr_esq jr_...@yahoo.com 2 cardemaister cardemais...@yahoo.com 2 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com 1 ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 ravichivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com 1 laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 jpgillam jpgil...@yahoo.com 1 eustace10679 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 1 Richard rich...@infinitepie.net 1 Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com 1 emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com Posters: 47 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I concur that online and offline are different beasts. I do take greater license online in stretching the boundaries than I would offline. I received a very unpleasant private email yesterday from Sal Sunshine telling me to BUTT OUT of the dialogue between Robin and Curtis. Emily is not exaggerating. It was an *astoundingly* unpleasant email, one that nobody here, including Sal's most dedicated supporters, could fail to recognize as such.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Sep 08 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat Sep 15 00:00:00 2012 578 messages as of (UTC) Fri Sep 14 00:14:30 2012 48 Buck dhamiltony2k5@... 4 dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@... Look, folks, if you're going to use multiple methods of posting to FFL that show up as different handles on the Post Count, then you need to keep track of all your different identities that show up in the Post Count. Sorry, Buck, but you get a week off.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John
Thanks, John, every bit of knowledge is appreciated and fun to assimilate. Yes, I understand about the lagna changing depending on the area of life being considered. Interesting too about Dr. DA not being affected. Maybe Libra in negative house? Share From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John Share, In the US chart, the Moon is placed in Aquarius and Libra is the 9th house, signifying overseas or foreign lands, from the Moon position. Thus, we find the attack of American embassies in foreign lands. In jyotish, the analysis of the chart requires the assessment of the various ascendants or lagnas aside from the usual rising sign, which is Sagittarius for the USA. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, JR, I remembered that you said Sag is lagna. Don't know enough jyotish to make connection between 4th house and 11th. Makes sense. What might be significator that it's happening overseas rather than at home? Share From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arab Spring Turns Against the US to John  Share, The current troubles are still due to the malefic conjunction of Mars and Saturn in Libra. In the US chart, Libra is the 8th house (a significator for death) from Pisces, which represents the American homes or property. Thus, we're finding that the American embassies overseas are being attacked and American citizens working there are killed or harassed. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: What's happening in the US chart? I've read that Mars is aspecting Jupiter. From: John jr_esq@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arab Spring Turns Against the US  It smells like Al Qaeda is involved in this attack in Yemen and Libya. They may be paying off protestors to create havoc in American embassies in the Middle East. http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-protesters-storm-u-embassy-sanaa-witnesses-085414831.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@... wrote: Judy, I suppose sometimes you are right about things. But so often you bore into minute issues that have no bearing on the bigger picture, Well, that isn't accurate, but never mind. that I have found it not usually worth the time to try to follow your train of thought. Suit yourself. You certainly got this one wrong. I suspect you were hoping to curry favor with Barry by echoing his ridiculous attack on Ann. But it just makes you look silly, and Barry doesn't care whether you agree with him or not. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@ wrote: It is an angel's halo. It was my attempt at a joke along with some truth, or at least my opinion thrown in. I just found it curious that you felt you needed to so clearly exempt Robin from any possible negative inference. Why? Oh, never mind, I know, you weren't following the context. You didn't even know who Ann was addressing. No wonder you were confused. I'll call it 80% joke. 20% jab. Is that an acceptable proportion? Or was it 60% joke, 40% jab. I'm just not sure. But it seemed funny to me at the time. And really still does. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: What is that golden ring, by the way, and what does it mean Steve? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 lurkernomore20002000@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: It is not that things don't happen, and good things too, online. It is just that the essential dynamic is very different from offline. People are usually much more accessible and careful when they are standing next to you. I give people the benefit of the doubt that they are probably much easier to talk to in person, that the internet can give them an edge and a licence to be different than they are in the flesh. Really, all I am saying is don't take things too personally here. Some posters are very honest and real (Emily for example) and some are hiding behind all sorts of personas and agendas (AZ and Vaj for example) and others just don't give a poop what they say to hurt people (Barry). If you get too closely wedded to taking all of these characters into your personal space and opening yourself up too deeply to some of them you will find you will get slammed at some point. (I am not talking in the least about Robin here by the way, he falls into none of these categories.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Suit yourself. You certainly got this one wrong. I suspect you were hoping to curry favor with Barry by echoing his ridiculous attack on Ann. But it just makes you look silly, and Barry doesn't care whether you agree with him or not. Dagnabbit, you got me there Judy - trying to curry favor with Barry. How do you think I did? Oh that's right, you said he doesn't care. Anyway, Ravi has me part of the Barry clique, so I guess I better try to play the part.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
DD: Sal Sunshine: sounds like a crazy, invasive personality to me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I concur that online and offline are different beasts. I do take greater license online in stretching the boundaries than I would offline. I received a very unpleasant private email yesterday from Sal Sunshine telling me to BUTT OUT of the dialogue between Robin and Curtis. Emily is not exaggerating. It was an *astoundingly* unpleasant email, one that nobody here, including Sal's most dedicated supporters, could fail to recognize as such.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: DD: Sal Sunshine: sounds like a crazy, invasive personality to me. I believe she has some sincere concerns about some of the posters here. She was on the FFL for years and I knew her personally, and never felt she was either of those things. She was sticking up for me and I appreciate that. She was expressing an opinion like we do here all the time. Anyone can take their email off the yahoo group list so that no one can send you a private email. If you have it on there you might get one someday, I know I do. Is it a bigger deal than bringing out an opinion in front of everyone? That judgement may be different for each of us. I would actually prefer to get that kind of email privately and miss all the piling on that can go on here. YMMV. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I concur that online and offline are different beasts. I do take greater license online in stretching the boundaries than I would offline. I received a very unpleasant private email yesterday from Sal Sunshine telling me to BUTT OUT of the dialogue between Robin and Curtis. Emily is not exaggerating. It was an *astoundingly* unpleasant email, one that nobody here, including Sal's most dedicated supporters, could fail to recognize as such.
[FairfieldLife] David Lynch nailed it on Louie CK's show tonight
David is a PHD in being uncomfortably weird. Excellent job. I thought Nabbie should know since he definitely isn't watching this show. TM guy does good. Break out the celebration cake!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: DD: Sal Sunshine: sounds like a crazy, invasive personality to me. I believe she has some sincere concerns about some of the posters here. She was on the FFL for years and I knew her personally, and never felt she was either of those things. She was sticking up for me and I appreciate that. She was expressing an opinion like we do here all the time. You read her email, Curtis. That is not an honest description of it. Anyone can take their email off the yahoo group list so that no one can send you a private email. If you have it on there you might get one someday, I know I do. Is it a bigger deal than bringing out an opinion in front of everyone? That judgement may be different for each of us. I would actually prefer to get that kind of email privately and miss all the piling on that can go on here. YMMV. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I concur that online and offline are different beasts. I do take greater license online in stretching the boundaries than I would offline. I received a very unpleasant private email yesterday from Sal Sunshine telling me to BUTT OUT of the dialogue between Robin and Curtis. Emily is not exaggerating. It was an *astoundingly* unpleasant email, one that nobody here, including Sal's most dedicated supporters, could fail to recognize as such.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: DD: Sal Sunshine: sounds like a crazy, invasive personality to me. I believe she has some sincere concerns about some of the posters here. You mean that she could become *concerned* about people here? Like the guy who is now on his fifth posting ID on Fairfield Life, at least one of which was spent pretending to be a woman? Or the woman who is still hounding her and taking every possible opportunity to ruin her reputation, months after she stopped posting at FFL? What could there possibly be to be concerned about? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: DD: Sal Sunshine: sounds like a crazy, invasive personality to me. I believe she has some sincere concerns about some of the posters here. You mean that she could become *concerned* about people here? Like the guy who is now on his fifth posting ID on Fairfield Life, at least one of which was spent pretending to be a woman? Or the woman who is still hounding her and taking every possible opportunity to ruin her reputation, months after she stopped posting at FFL? What could there possibly be to be concerned about? :-) Ask Curtis to show you Sal's email to Emily, Barry.
[FairfieldLife] Proposing a new term for use in Fairfield
Chatting with a friend last night over Skype, we were discussing our former TM connection, and people we had known in common. When discussing one of them, a woman who we both dated and who was sweet and attractive but...uh...not exactly the sharpest pencil in the box, I found myself describing her using a term I tend to use affectionately, because I know the etymology of the word: Bimbo. My friend laughed and said, Chances are she is still in Fairfield, and still buying *everything* they tell her to buy, believing *everything* they tell her to believe, and still bouncing on her bum every day in the domes. Does that make her a 'Bumbo'? Cracked me right up. It's the perfect word for that kind of gal who is sweet but so gullible she'll believe *anything*, no matter how outlandish or Newagey. Here's raising a toast in my Bimbo Club shot glasses (I really do have a set) to the Bumbos of Fairfield. :-)
