[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: If I were a man I'd want to be me. I cannot help but go on the record here and feel sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time. Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann. (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.) Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her usual drama queenery and faux outrage. What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as committed to turning *everything* into an argument as Judy is understood -- is that I cannot imagine anything more trying than maintaining a relationship with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of narcissism that would be tough to cope with. Relationships are all about the *differences* between people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* to be with a clone of themselves? I'm just suggesting that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very telling. Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet Another Attempt to get everybody arguing, and thus to drag things down to her level.
[FairfieldLife] For all of you, zero WP8 users!
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[FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday TurqB
Jane has some feisty scenes and lines in this excerpt from Electric Horseman. Hope you have a fun and feisty day and year (-: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNpQOdwar8E PS It's also the birthday of my Mom's mom, long gone now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The seduction of the beautiful
lovely! Thanks. David --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Ladies You just wish you could be seduced like this: Don Giovanni La ci darem la mano Sung by Dmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZHwbxLBO0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZHwbxLBO0
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno
Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I meant. Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something Emily attributed to me yesterday. Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of? I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post. 1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile' But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind of context. 2. 'let alone express it.' To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even if you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the word is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word means, and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it would require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a serious post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be away - and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even bringing up the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it was snipped. I do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was having fun with it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with Emily was not in my mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: dear FFL, just to set the record straight: I don't even THINK the word imbecile much less express it. And so, Share, how did you manage to write the above passage? In case you think this is a criticism, this is a philosophical question.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The seduction of the beautiful
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Thanks Emily, That's the one I meant to post. Thanks to Judy for alerting me. It's a beautiful aria and revealing. Men act so emotionally crude at times but this is their other side. As a Russian Archbishop told me: When their dicks get hard their hearts get soft. When their dicks get soft their hearts get hard. FWIW, just heard a Swedish Doctor, Åsa (awsa) Vilbäck claim, that relaxation (parasympathetic tone?) is the conditio sine qua non of erection?! http://lagprisflygbolag.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/nakenchock-av-doktor-asa-vilback/ Such is the definition of the brutish man. This is why men need women - mothers, sisters, lovers to refine them. However, see what it got Masetto in the aria - just a candidacy for being a wuss. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Can't go wrong with Dmitri's voice...a dream come true.  Pair that with Ann's husband's qualities and I might consider marriage one day. Kidding!  I looked up the story of Don Giovanni - oh my.  Here is a cute blurb on a canadian opera singer's thoughts while trying to learn the Batti batti aria: http://deadwildroses.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/mozart-don-giovanni-k-527-\ zerlinas-batti-batti-aria/ I grew up with opera and classical, but I didn't care for most of it as no one else I knew was forced to listen to it.  My grandparents had season tickets forever to the symphony, to the opera, to the ballet.  I had little TV before 12 and none after for many years.  I was a huge book reader.  No real exposure to pop culture until Pop got us a radio of our own as he was walking out the door when we hit our teen years.  I craved pop culture; I wanted to relate.  With all that crosses FFL, I feel that I've caught up on pop culture and now this...coming full circle I am and I am so delighted I can appreciate opera and classical now.  Ha hatime for a glass of ginger ale.  I'm getting all mushy and don't want to make myself ill with all this gratitude talk.   From: emptybill emptybill@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The seduction of the beautiful  Ladies â You just wish you could be seduced like this: Don Giovanni â La ci darem la mano Sung byDmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZHwbxLBO0
[FairfieldLife] Re: The seduction of the beautiful
Dear Madame E cannot write it better than Nin: Each friend represents a world in us, a world possibly not born until they arrive, and it is only by this meeting that a new world is born. .. found that rare clips may be of interest(?) Anais Nin on Anger and the Artist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu9epVEULZM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu9epVEULZM Henry Miller Anaïs Nin on Death and Dreams http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJHmzWDgG-c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJHmzWDgG-c the neurotic man is the man of the future he continues ...a man should not adapt to this world because its a bad world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: leave out the poetry Goethes Faust and A.Nin--both outdated? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXHmwp4JkGk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXHmwp4JkGk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXHmwp4JkGk Faustus reflects on the most rewarding type of scholarship These metaphysics of magicians, And necromantic books are heavenly! He quotes (he is following the dictates of medieval scholarship) the Greek philosopher Aristotle, considers and dismiss logic, medicine (Galen), law(Justinian), divinity, ([t]he reward of sin is death) but finally fixes his mind on magic, which he believes will make him a mighty god his rhetoric outlines the modern quest for control over nature (albeit through magic rather than through science) in glowing, inspiring language. He offers a long list of impressive goals, including the acquisition of knowledge, wealth, and political power, that he believes he will achieve once he has mastered the dark arts Faustus's dreams inspire wonder Think'st thou that I, who saw the face of God, And tasted the eternal joys of heaven, Am not tormented with ten thousand hells In being deprived of everlasting bliss? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Oh, it's all about the passion and the voices and the melodies for me in the end, although I got a kick out that blog I posted. I once heard Faust in English - what a waste of effort to make it more approachable to the masses - couldn't understand it in English either. And from Anais Nin for a feminine touch: Only the united beat of sex and heart together can create ecstasy. ~Anais Nin Anaïs Nin wrote the following passionate letter to the Collector (she was earning $1 per page writing erotic fiction for the private consumption of this anonymous client,incidentally, some of those stories written by Nin were later published in the book, Delta Of Venus.)and made known her frustrations frustrations that had been caused by his repeated insistence that they leave out the poetry and instead concentrate on sex. Dear Collector: We hate you. Sex loses all its power and magic when it becomes explicit, mechanical, overdone, when it becomes a mechanistic obsession. It becomes a bore. You have taught us more than anyone I know how wrong it is not to mix it with emotion, hunger, desire, lust, whims, caprices, personal ties, deeper relationships which change its color, flavor, rhythms, intensities. You do not know what you are missing by your microscopic examination of sexual activity to the exclusion of others, which are the fuel that ignites it. Intellectual, imaginative, romantic, emotional. This is what gives sex its surprising textures, its subtle transformations, its aphrodisiac elements. You are shrinking your world of sensations. You are withering it, starving it, draining its blood If you have closed your senses around silk, light, color, odor, character, temperament, you must by now be completely shriveled up. There are so many minor senses, all running like tributaries into the mainstream of sex, nourishing it. Only the united beat of sex and heart together can create ecstasy. Anais Nin And then the day came, when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to Blossom. Anaïs Nin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Thanks Emily, That's the one I meant to post. Thanks to Judy for alerting me. It's a beautiful aria and revealing. Men act so emotionally crude at times but this is their other side. As a Russian Archbishop told me: When their dicks get hard their hearts get soft. When their dicks get soft their hearts get hard. Such is the definition of the brutish man. This is why men need women - mothers, sisters, lovers to refine them. However, see what it got Masetto in the aria - just a candidacy for being a wuss. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Can't go wrong with Dmitri's voice...a dream come true. Â Pair that with Ann's husband's qualities and I might consider marriage one day. Kidding! Â I looked up the story of Don Giovanni - oh my. Â Here is a cute blurb on a canadian opera
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Kerry To Be Secretary of State
John jr_esq: I'm beginning to believe that George W. is and was a member of a secret society Everyone knows that Kerry was a member of the secret society, Skull Bones. that is planning for a new world order, just as his father before him had proclaimed. According to the latest news. He's going to take a very demanding job that requires diplomacy and travel. Do you think Kerry will travel to Cambodia to spend Christmas? I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security. - John Kerry
[FairfieldLife] Re: The seduction of the beautiful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v nqf7PTKwYbc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v nqf7PTKwYbc sine qua non of Erektion? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v qPbuyi5DR- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v qPbuyi5DR- 8 Åsa Vilbäck om alternativmedicin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v GdH4y9oo-6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v GdH4y9oo-6o --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Thanks Emily, That's the one I meant to post. Thanks to Judy for alerting me. It's a beautiful aria and revealing. Men act so emotionally crude at times but this is their other side. As a Russian Archbishop told me: When their dicks get hard their hearts get soft. When their dicks get soft their hearts get hard. FWIW, just heard a Swedish Doctor, Åsa (awsa) Vilbäck claim, that relaxation (parasympathetic tone?) is the conditio sine qua non of erection?! http://lagprisflygbolag.wordpress.com/2008/11/15/nakenchock-av-doktor-as\ a-vilback/ Such is the definition of the brutish man. This is why men need women - mothers, sisters, lovers to refine them. However, see what it got Masetto in the aria - just a candidacy for being a wuss. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Can't go wrong with Dmitri's voice...a dream come true.  Pair that with Ann's husband's qualities and I might consider marriage one day. Kidding!  I looked up the story of Don Giovanni - oh my.  Here is a cute blurb on a canadian opera singer's thoughts while trying to learn the Batti batti aria: http://deadwildroses.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/mozart-don-giovanni-k-527-\ \ zerlinas-batti-batti-aria/ I grew up with opera and classical, but I didn't care for most of it as no one else I knew was forced to listen to it.  My grandparents had season tickets forever to the symphony, to the opera, to the ballet.  I had little TV before 12 and none after for many years.  I was a huge book reader.  No real exposure to pop culture until Pop got us a radio of our own as he was walking out the door when we hit our teen years.  I craved pop culture; I wanted to relate.  With all that crosses FFL, I feel that I've caught up on pop culture and now this...coming full circle I am and I am so delighted I can appreciate opera and classical now.  Ha hatime for a glass of ginger ale.  I'm getting all mushy and don't want to make myself ill with all this gratitude talk.   From: emptybill emptybill@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The seduction of the beautiful  Ladies â You just wish you could be seduced like this: Don Giovanni â La ci darem la mano Sung byDmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZHwbxLBO0
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: On the contrary, I think we should mention Ann's hubby in every post from now on. I for one would like to know what peculiar magic he possessed that enabled him to saddle up that spirited filly and ride her off into the sunset. Yeesh. Although I'm in full sympathy with the sentiment, I can't help pointing out what an incredibly sexist metaphor you've used to express it. Unlike you, Ann had no objection to it. In fact, she picked it up and ran with it. Lighten up, authfriend! It's a sexist metaphor regardless of whether Ann objected to it. She was responding graciously to the compliment and ignoring the sexism. You read it right. I agree with what you say here, completely. Since the compliment wasn't directed at me, I have no need to be gracious and can call it as I see it, see? Don't be such a pompous ass. You could have said, Yes, I guess it was, sorry about that! and have come out smelling like a rose. I'm not sorry about it at all. I like it. I chose it deliberately, with a little bit of a smile. What you are doing here is what you do so often -- getting offended on behalf of someone who is not the least bit offended. Let me say it another way: That Ann did not express offense does NOT mean that the metaphor wasn't sexist, or that sexism isn't offensive. I wasn't offended on Ann's behalf; she gets to decide whether she was offended by your sexism. Correct, and I thought I might be for just a moment or two but the unexpected nature of Feste's post after many weeks of not interacting with him was pleasant in spite of the sexist overtone. I figured I could let it go and focus on a different aspect of what he was saying although I considered addressing the fact that he used a metaphor that implied some man had broken the spirited filly and rode her off after dominating and taming her. And since I know that that is not actually the case I can ignore it and just let it go - this time. Now I can think of others who I might not be so forgiving of... Actually, it was the case. That was exactly what the metaphor implied. I was completely aware of it. If the witch wants to call it sexist, I don't care. I was having fun. Lighten up, girls! But Judy, I love you for what you wrote; you are still the dominant lioness here and let no one forget it. I certainly won't. And lions just won't accept a saddle, let alone a bridle. I get to decide whether I find it offensive, not her, and *certainly* not you. Get it now? You've just told us that you enjoy making sexist remarks. Now we know something about you we didn't know before. Everyone is entitled to decide on their own behalf whether they find that cute, or deplorable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Kerry To Be Secretary of State
George W. Bush is the bigger culprit because he's the one that actually executed the war in Iraq, thinking that Saddam had WMD. authfriend: *Pretending* that Saddam had WMD. He almost certainly knew otherwise... The U.S. and its allies won the first gulf war to prevent Saddham Hussien from controlling Saudi Arabia's oil fields, but Kerry voted against going into Iraq. Go figure. But, Kerry voted in favor of going into Iraq to get rid of Saddham Hussien's weapons of mass destruction. John Kerry is definitely a liar, or he was duped, big time! Almost all Dems voted in favor of using force to find out if Saddham had any WMDs. Now we have a president that is supported by a former Weatherman and the New Black Panthers. Obama might as well have a Winter Soldier in his cabinet! This way, we can impeach Obama and for killing all those people in Afghanistan with drone strikes and jail Kerry for using automatic weapons on civilians in Vietnam. Do the Taliban have any weapons of mass destruction? No, they don't.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The seduction of the beautiful
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Can't go wrong with Dmitri's voice...a dream come true. Pair that with Ann's husband's qualities and I might consider marriage one day. Kidding! I looked up the story of Don Giovanni - oh my. Here is a cute blurb on a canadian opera singer's thoughts while trying to learn the Batti batti aria: http://deadwildroses.wordpress.com/2011/05/20/mozart-don-giovanni-k-527-zerlinas-batti-batti-aria/ I loved this! Great find. It's such a pretty aria musically, it's a shock when you first see a translation of the lyrics. Agreed. Now there's a guy who knows how to tame a filly! I grew up with opera and classical, but I didn't care for most of it as no one else I knew was forced to listen to it.  My grandparents had season tickets forever to the symphony, to the opera, to the ballet.  I had little TV before 12 and none after for many years.  I was a huge book reader.  No real exposure to pop culture until Pop got us a radio of our own as he was walking out the door when we hit our teen years.  I craved pop culture; I wanted to relate.  With all that crosses FFL, I feel that I've caught up on pop culture and now this...coming full circle I am and I am so delighted I can appreciate opera and classical now.  Ha hatime for a glass of ginger ale.  I'm getting all mushy and don't want to make myself ill with all this gratitude talk.   From: emptybill emptybill@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The seduction of the beautiful  Ladies â You just wish you could be seduced like this: Don Giovanni â La ci darem la mano Sung byDmitri Hvorostovsky and Renee Fleming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iZHwbxLBO0
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Kerry To Be Secretary of State
Don't know about this, but W. is known to have said--before he was elected, I believe, but definitely before 9/11--that the way to be a great president was to start a war and win it, as his father had. seekliberation: GWB was just simply an idiot with narcissistic tendencies... Maybe so, but because the U.S. and its allies didn't act soon enough, or do enough, in Korea, there is now the possibility of the use of weapons of mass destruction against us. Obama didn't win the war in Iraq or in Afghanistan. So, now Obama and Kerry want to send troops into Syria to stop the use of weapons of mass destruction by the Syrians? If GWB was an idiot for going into Iraq, what does that say about Obama and Kerry? Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect
seekliberation: I had a longer reply written, then erased it all... In the traditional Indian view, a building, if it is properly conceived, satisfies both a physical and metaphysical indigence. It has a twofold function: it provides 'commodity, firmness, and delight' so as to serve man's psychosomatic, emotional and aesthetic needs, and also supra-empirical principles. ibid. Snodgrass
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: On the contrary, I think we should mention Ann's hubby in every post from now on. I for one would like to know what peculiar magic he possessed that enabled him to saddle up that spirited filly and ride her off into the sunset. Yeesh. Although I'm in full sympathy with the sentiment, I can't help pointing out what an incredibly sexist metaphor you've used to express it. Unlike you, Ann had no objection to it. In fact, she picked it up and ran with it. Lighten up, authfriend! It's a sexist metaphor regardless of whether Ann objected to it. She was responding graciously to the compliment and ignoring the sexism. You read it right. I agree with what you say here, completely. Since the compliment wasn't directed at me, I have no need to be gracious and can call it as I see it, see? Don't be such a pompous ass. You could have said, Yes, I guess it was, sorry about that! and have come out smelling like a rose. I'm not sorry about it at all. I like it. I chose it deliberately, with a little bit of a smile. What you are doing here is what you do so often -- getting offended on behalf of someone who is not the least bit offended. Let me say it another way: That Ann did not express offense does NOT mean that the metaphor wasn't sexist, or that sexism isn't offensive. I wasn't offended on Ann's behalf; she gets to decide whether she was offended by your sexism. Correct, and I thought I might be for just a moment or two but the unexpected nature of Feste's post after many weeks of not interacting with him was pleasant in spite of the sexist overtone. I figured I could let it go and focus on a different aspect of what he was saying although I considered addressing the fact that he used a metaphor that implied some man had broken the spirited filly and rode her off after dominating and taming her. And since I know that that is not actually the case I can ignore it and just let it go - this time. Now I can think of others who I might not be so forgiving of... Actually, it was the case. That was exactly what the metaphor implied. I was completely aware of it. If the witch wants to call it sexist, I don't care. I was having fun. Lighten up, girls! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt0_oPPK6eA But Judy, I love you for what you wrote; you are still the dominant lioness here and let no one forget it. I certainly won't. And lions just won't accept a saddle, let alone a bridle. I get to decide whether I find it offensive, not her, and *certainly* not you. Get it now? You've just told us that you enjoy making sexist remarks. Now we know something about you we didn't know before. Everyone is entitled to decide on their own behalf whether they find that cute, or deplorable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
Loved it! Now tell me, is there any way a sense of humor might be implanted in authfriend, even at this late stage in her life? Is it possible? Has anyone ever had a humor implant? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: On the contrary, I think we should mention Ann's hubby in every post from now on. I for one would like to know what peculiar magic he possessed that enabled him to saddle up that spirited filly and ride her off into the sunset. Yeesh. Although I'm in full sympathy with the sentiment, I can't help pointing out what an incredibly sexist metaphor you've used to express it. Unlike you, Ann had no objection to it. In fact, she picked it up and ran with it. Lighten up, authfriend! It's a sexist metaphor regardless of whether Ann objected to it. She was responding graciously to the compliment and ignoring the sexism. You read it right. I agree with what you say here, completely. Since the compliment wasn't directed at me, I have no need to be gracious and can call it as I see it, see? Don't be such a pompous ass. You could have said, Yes, I guess it was, sorry about that! and have come out smelling like a rose. I'm not sorry about it at all. I like it. I chose it deliberately, with a little bit of a smile. What you are doing here is what you do so often -- getting offended on behalf of someone who is not the least bit offended. Let me say it another way: That Ann did not express offense does NOT mean that the metaphor wasn't sexist, or that sexism isn't offensive. I wasn't offended on Ann's behalf; she gets to decide whether she was offended by your sexism. Correct, and I thought I might be for just a moment or two but the unexpected nature of Feste's post after many weeks of not interacting with him was pleasant in spite of the sexist overtone. I figured I could let it go and focus on a different aspect of what he was saying although I considered addressing the fact that he used a metaphor that implied some man had broken the spirited filly and rode her off after dominating and taming her. And since I know that that is not actually the case I can ignore it and just let it go - this time. Now I can think of others who I might not be so forgiving of... Actually, it was the case. That was exactly what the metaphor implied. I was completely aware of it. If the witch wants to call it sexist, I don't care. I was having fun. Lighten up, girls! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt0_oPPK6eA But Judy, I love you for what you wrote; you are still the dominant lioness here and let no one forget it. I certainly won't. And lions just won't accept a saddle, let alone a bridle. I get to decide whether I find it offensive, not her, and *certainly* not you. Get it now? You've just told us that you enjoy making sexist remarks. Now we know something about you we didn't know before. Everyone is entitled to decide on their own behalf whether they find that cute, or deplorable.
[FairfieldLife] Cream, whole milk and eggs, and stuff??
http://blueheronhealthnews.com/site/?p=6665 Micheal Cook · Top Commenter Throughout our history a healthy diet was one which was based mainly on foods of animal origin and high in fats. Where the major health problems occured in Britain, it was not among people who ate a lot of fat, but in those who did not get enough.The comparatively wealthy, who ate meat and dairy produce regularly, had average lifespans which were comparable with or better than those of today. It was the poor who could not afford such foods who suffered high levels of infant mortality, poor growth and shorter, less healthy lives. In the 1920's, Sir John Boyd Orr conducted a number of studies which compared growth rates of children in public schools with those in state run schools. He found that those from wealthier backgrounds were significantly taller than their poorer peers. After examining their relative diets and changing the constituents, Boyd Orr proved conclusively that children of the socially deprived, who lived on a largely carbohydrate diet of bread and potatoes, benefitted from a diet supplemented with full-cream milk. Boyd Orr's studies found confirmation in observations among the people's of India made by Sir Robert McCarrison, a colonial medical officer. He compared the southern Indians, who ate very little in the way of dairy produce and who were of stunted growth and prone to disease, with their neighbours to the north, the Sikhs, who drank a great deal of milk and were fit and healthy. Maasai, who lived almost exclusively on blood and milk, with their unhealthy vegetarian neighbours, the Kikuyu. That added to the weight of evidence. Boyd Orr concluded that the food intake of half the British population was seriously deficient in a number of what he called 'protective constitiuents' which were necessary for good health. In the late 1930's he proposed that the British people should drink more milk, and eat more dairy produce and meat. The British government of the time recommended that milk consumption should be doubled and introduced free school milk. The British Medical Association, giving specific amounts, advised that the population should consume 80% more milk, 55% more eggs, 40% more butter and 30% more meat. Later, with the advent of television advertising, the government sponsored its own 'go to work on an egg' campaign. Except for the period of food rationing during the 1940s and early 1950s, Boyd Orr's recommended diet was the standard British fare. We ate breakfast of eggs and fatty bacon fried in lard: dripping, the fat from the sunday roast, was saved to have on bread and toast: we drank full cream milk and ate butter. Only the poor ate margarine: and only the poor had high levels of disease. The recommendations to eat a relatively high-fat, high-animal protein diet led to a spectacular decrease in diseases: rickets, called the 'English Disease' because it was so widespread together with other defeciency diseases, largely disappeared from our lives: child deaths from diptheria, measles, scarlet fever and whooping cough also fell dramatically well before the introduction of anti-biotics and widespread immunisation. Although other factors helped, most important was the higher resistance of children to disease that followed from better nutrition. That dietary advice, given to the people of Britain in 1938 remained the basis of our diet for nearly 50years, during which time our mean life expectancy increased from 60 years in 1930 to 70years by 1960 and by 1990 it had reached 75years. ( From the book 'Natural health and weight loss' by a Barry Groves.) Since the 1980s there has been a reversal of all that went before in the previous 50 years. No fat, low fat, meat consumption has been drastically cut from our diet, as has eggs, full cream milk, all on the advice of the modern day 'health gurus' 'nutirionists' and tv health pundits who are indoctrinating people into eating the most toxic and poisonous foods ever contrived. As one man said, the masses prefer to eat preserved, polished, purified, canned foods, that one way or another are dessicated by chemicals, by heating, by freezing and thawing, by oxidization and decomposition, by milling and polishing, man applies the principles of hiscivilization, which is the elimination of the old primitive civilizations natural way of eating and the substitution of it with the artificial. By so doing he turns a once natural and wholesome food into a dead mass of nutritional sewage. the consequence of which is the sickest society that the world has ever seen and getting sicker. Reply · 1 · · about an hour ago
Re: [FairfieldLife] John Kerry To Be Secretary of State to John
Hi John, is there a jyotish chart for Kerry and if so, any interesting indications. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] John Kerry To Be Secretary of State According to the latest news. He's going to take a very demanding job that requires diplomacy and travel. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/15/john-kerry-secretary-of-state_n_2306877.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect to seekliberation
me too, seekliberation, 3 planets in the 9th, Sun, Merc, Venus with Merc and Venus being exactly conjunct. Merc is ruler of 9th and 12th and Venus is ruler of 8th and 1st. Ketu is in the first. One thing I've heard about all this is that people with a strong Sun and or strong 9th house tend to be their own guru. I think this is true. Another thing I've heard is that actually the soul as if chooses the birth chart etc for maximum evolution. This also resonates as true to me. Some Latter Day Saints once came knocking at the front door. I warned them about my being a TMer. They glanced at each other nervously and asked if I knew that the Bible says that TM is the work of the devil. Eventually I had to explain to them that though I didn't know for sure, what I had experienced was enough for me to take a chance that I was on the right track for me. They said goodbye (-: From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Either we're talking past each other or you don't read what is written properly. I was mentioning 500 years as an example of how long you could linger on the other side WITHOUT a body and thus without the possebility to think your mantra. That's quite a long time though probably above average. And that's why there should be a certain ugency in this matter since noone really knows for sure how long it will take to be back in a body and be able to resume Sadhana. I had a longer reply written, then erased it allit's futile. You're convinced you're in direct control of your spirituality, while I think that divinity has a plan for us all in the midst of our individual efforts. When I studied astrology, this is explained in terms of the difference between the 8th and 9th house. They both result in people being spiritual, but the 8th house leans more towards spirituality, while 9th house leans more towards religion. The 8th house indicates spiritual development through one's own initiative, while the 9th house more so through revelation. An example of an 8th house type of person would be Sanjaya in the Bhagavad Gita, someone who is psychic and achieves spiritual realizations through his own efforts. Then you have Arjuna, who has no significant or indicated spiritual practice, but has reality revealed directly to him directly by God. In other words, individual effort vs revelation. However, i've heard that the 12th house is the only one that really gets us out of this cycle of birth and death, and it also has a slightly different approach to the subject of spirituality. Ketu, is also imperative in terms of its placement in the chart for enlightenment. Given the fact that we don't have absolute control over the position of the planets at the time of birth, that's enough for me to look at meditation and spirituality as something I do because its my nature, not because I think i'm going to save the world or my own sould if I just 'hurry up' or 'try harder'. But then again, I have 3 planets in the 9th house, and only 1 in the 8th, so that's probably why I lean that way, not because it's the absolute truth...which I also can't say I really know. seekliberation
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cream, whole milk and eggs, and stuff??
Dear Card, this is really terribly interesting science and is proly completely relevant to the Invincible America Assembly right now. Sort of like the results in the public 'school lunch program' it would probably improve spiritual experiences in the Dome quite a lot in the meditation if more people in there were better nourished and particularly if the the course administration would serve some scrambled eggs or real protein along with coffee and cream during the mid-morning break. Evidently it would be very good to enforce a better diet to have a much healthier group of meditators, ..Clean your plate or no stipend today!. The Science says so. Ever watchful to improve the spiritual experience of everyone in the large group program, -Buck, First De Facto Public Health Officer of the Age of Enlightenment up to now and Heaven on Earth after 12.21.2012 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: http://blueheronhealthnews.com/site/?p=6665 Micheal Cook · Top Commenter Throughout our history a healthy diet was one which was based mainly on foods of animal origin and high in fats. Where the major health problems occured in Britain, it was not among people who ate a lot of fat, but in those who did not get enough.The comparatively wealthy, who ate meat and dairy produce regularly, had average lifespans which were comparable with or better than those of today. It was the poor who could not afford such foods who suffered high levels of infant mortality, poor growth and shorter, less healthy lives. In the 1920's, Sir John Boyd Orr conducted a number of studies which compared growth rates of children in public schools with those in state run schools. He found that those from wealthier backgrounds were significantly taller than their poorer peers. After examining their relative diets and changing the constituents, Boyd Orr proved conclusively that children of the socially deprived, who lived on a largely carbohydrate diet of bread and potatoes, benefitted from a diet supplemented with full-cream milk. Boyd Orr's studies found confirmation in observations among the people's of India made by Sir Robert McCarrison, a colonial medical officer. He compared the southern Indians, who ate very little in the way of dairy produce and who were of stunted growth and prone to disease, with their neighbours to the north, the Sikhs, who drank a great deal of milk and were fit and healthy. Maasai, who lived almost exclusively on blood and milk, with their unhealthy vegetarian neighbours, the Kikuyu. That added to the weight of evidence. Boyd Orr concluded that the food intake of half the British population was seriously deficient in a number of what he called 'protective constitiuents' which were necessary for good health. In the late 1930's he proposed that the British people should drink more milk, and eat more dairy produce and meat. The British government of the time recommended that milk consumption should be doubled and introduced free school milk. The British Medical Association, giving specific amounts, advised that the population should consume 80% more milk, 55% more eggs, 40% more butter and 30% more meat. Later, with the advent of television advertising, the government sponsored its own 'go to work on an egg' campaign. Except for the period of food rationing during the 1940s and early 1950s, Boyd Orr's recommended diet was the standard British fare. We ate breakfast of eggs and fatty bacon fried in lard: dripping, the fat from the sunday roast, was saved to have on bread and toast: we drank full cream milk and ate butter. Only the poor ate margarine: and only the poor had high levels of disease. The recommendations to eat a relatively high-fat, high-animal protein diet led to a spectacular decrease in diseases: rickets, called the 'English Disease' because it was so widespread together with other defeciency diseases, largely disappeared from our lives: child deaths from diptheria, measles, scarlet fever and whooping cough also fell dramatically well before the introduction of anti-biotics and widespread immunisation. Although other factors helped, most important was the higher resistance of children to disease that followed from better nutrition. That dietary advice, given to the people of Britain in 1938 remained the basis of our diet for nearly 50years, during which time our mean life expectancy increased from 60 years in 1930 to 70years by 1960 and by 1990 it had reached 75years. ( From the book 'Natural health and weight loss' by a Barry Groves.) Since the 1980s there has been a reversal of all that went before in the previous 50 years. No fat, low fat, meat consumption has been drastically cut from our diet, as has eggs, full cream milk, all on the advice of the modern day 'health gurus' 'nutirionists' and tv health pundits who are indoctrinating people into
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: If I were a man I'd want to be me. I cannot help but go on the record here and feel sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time. Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann. (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.) Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her usual drama queenery and faux outrage. As Emily would say, A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! As if the smiley face would make any difference. Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a comeback. What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as committed to turning *everything* into an argument as Judy is understood No, son, I made my point. *You're* trying to turn it into an argument. -- is that I cannot imagine anything more trying than maintaining a relationship with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of narcissism that would be tough to cope with. And of course that isn't what Ann said, nor what she meant. What an insane interpretation. Relationships are all about the *differences* between people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* to be with a clone of themselves? Nobody would want that. Including Ann. Read what she wrote again, you demented dimwit: And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I were a man I'd want to be me. Nothing to do with a *relationship*. It's only your twisted mind that would make this into, My ideal man would be just like me. I'm just suggesting that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very telling. What's telling, Barry, is the deterioration of your mental faculties exemplified by this post. And note that you've managed to bust your faux outrage about my not quoting your smiley face. You never meant your remark to be anything but a nasty putdown of Ann. Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet Another Attempt to get everybody arguing, and thus to drag things down to her level. There's no argument here, Barry. *You* tried to start one, but you just made yourself look RLY RLY STPID. Now go sit in the corner.
[FairfieldLife] Re: John Kerry To Be Secretary of State to John
Share, I have the birthdata. But the birth time is considered questionable by the databank. I'll take a look at the chart and let you know what it says. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Hi John, is there a jyotish chart for Kerry and if so, any interesting indications. From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] John Kerry To Be Secretary of State  According to the latest news. He's going to take a very demanding job that requires diplomacy and travel. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/15/john-kerry-secretary-of-state_n_2306877.html
[FairfieldLife] Rose Rosetree: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 12/16/2012
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
If I were a man I would want to be me. Ann likes the person that she is. Her femaleness does not deprive her of the imagination to conceive of herself as a man--and yet in thinking of what kind of man she would like to be, she realizes she possesses the specific attributes which, for her, would be almost ideal in having to be a man. There is no limitation imposed upon herself as a woman; but there is the recognition *as a person* she encompasses--or could encompass, based upon her personal ingredients--the form of herself imagined as a man. It is also a kind of private in-joke between Ann and all those who know her: Ann has a large enough personality to make it an unnatural act to defer--just based on her femininity--to any man. Ann holds within her person, then, the possibility of transmuting what she is, into the form of a man--which says what a powerful woman she is--and yet how her very person would constitute the basis for being a man she would respect and love. She can see herself as being a beautiful man. Now, that's some woman. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: If I were a man I'd want to be me. I cannot help but go on the record here and feel sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time. Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann. (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.) Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her usual drama queenery and faux outrage. As Emily would say, A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! As if the smiley face would make any difference. Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a comeback. What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as committed to turning *everything* into an argument as Judy is understood No, son, I made my point. *You're* trying to turn it into an argument. -- is that I cannot imagine anything more trying than maintaining a relationship with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of narcissism that would be tough to cope with. And of course that isn't what Ann said, nor what she meant. What an insane interpretation. Relationships are all about the *differences* between people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* to be with a clone of themselves? Nobody would want that. Including Ann. Read what she wrote again, you demented dimwit: And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I were a man I'd want to be me. Nothing to do with a *relationship*. It's only your twisted mind that would make this into, My ideal man would be just like me. I'm just suggesting that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very telling. What's telling, Barry, is the deterioration of your mental faculties exemplified by this post. And note that you've managed to bust your faux outrage about my not quoting your smiley face. You never meant your remark to be anything but a nasty putdown of Ann. Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet Another Attempt to get everybody arguing, and thus to drag things down to her level. There's no argument here, Barry. *You* tried to start one, but you just made yourself look RLY RLY STPID. Now go sit in the corner.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect to seekliberation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: me too, seekliberation, 3 planets in the 9th, Sun, Merc, Venus with Merc and Venus being exactly conjunct. Merc is ruler of 9th and 12th and Venus is ruler of 8th and 1st. Ketu is in the first. You have ketu in the first, and 3 planets in the 9th? We're nearly identical. I have Ketu in the 1st, with Saturn, and Sun/Me/Jup in the 9th. Ketu in the first is kind of difficult (in a material sense) but great for spirituality. One thing I've heard about all this is that people with a strong Sun and or strong 9th house tend to be their own guru. I think this is true. Another thing I've heard is that actually the soul as if chooses the birth chart etc for maximum evolution. This also resonates as true to me.  Some Latter Day Saints once came knocking at the front door. I warned them about my being a TMer. They glanced at each other nervously and asked if I knew that the Bible says that TM is the work of the devil. Eventually I had to explain to them that though I didn't know for sure, what I had experienced was enough for me to take a chance that I was on the right track for me. They said goodbye (-: You know, I get irritated at some of the recent attacks on Christmas and what appears to be a movement in America to remove any trace of Christianity from our lives. But when I hear stories like thisI lose sympathy for Christians. The simple-mindedness of Christianity, IMO, has been very detrimental to spirituality for the past few centuries. Islam, IMO takes the gold medal though. seekliberation From: seekliberation seekliberation@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Either we're talking past each other or you don't read what is written properly. I was mentioning 500 years as an example of how long you could linger on the other side WITHOUT a body and thus without the possebility to think your mantra. That's quite a long time though probably above average. And that's why there should be a certain ugency in this matter since noone really knows for sure how long it will take to be back in a body and be able to resume Sadhana. I had a longer reply written, then erased it allit's futile. You're convinced you're in direct control of your spirituality, while I think that divinity has a plan for us all in the midst of our individual efforts. When I studied astrology, this is explained in terms of the difference between the 8th and 9th house. They both result in people being spiritual, but the 8th house leans more towards spirituality, while 9th house leans more towards religion. The 8th house indicates spiritual development through one's own initiative, while the 9th house more so through revelation. An example of an 8th house type of person would be Sanjaya in the Bhagavad Gita, someone who is psychic and achieves spiritual realizations through his own efforts. Then you have Arjuna, who has no significant or indicated spiritual practice, but has reality revealed directly to him directly by God. In other words, individual effort vs revelation. However, i've heard that the 12th house is the only one that really gets us out of this cycle of birth and death, and it also has a slightly different approach to the subject of spirituality. Ketu, is also imperative in terms of its placement in the chart for enlightenment. Given the fact that we don't have absolute control over the position of the planets at the time of birth, that's enough for me to look at meditation and spirituality as something I do because its my nature, not because I think i'm going to save the world or my own sould if I just 'hurry up' or 'try harder'. But then again, I have 3 planets in the 9th house, and only 1 in the 8th, so that's probably why I lean that way, not because it's the absolute truth...which I also can't say I really know. seekliberation
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect to seekliberation
Ok, some more jyotish tidbits: I've heard that Jupiter or Venus in the 9th takes care of all problems in the chart. BTW, the FFL chart has Venus in the 9th in Cancer. Of course for us Ketu in the first means Rahu in the 7th which would probably mean first marriage ends in divorce. And mine did! But actually my Rahu is good in marriage sub chart so it might have been hubby's kuja dosha. He had Mars in first, major kuja dosha. Yeah, religion's a mixed bag for sure. Maybe was more useful for other times and places. Also there's the idea that the flame burns brightest right before it goes out. Which means in this context, that maybe the religions get most fierce right before they morph completely or die out forever. From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect to seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: me too, seekliberation, 3 planets in the 9th, Sun, Merc, Venus with Merc and Venus being exactly conjunct. Merc is ruler of 9th and 12th and Venus is ruler of 8th and 1st. Ketu is in the first. You have ketu in the first, and 3 planets in the 9th? We're nearly identical. I have Ketu in the 1st, with Saturn, and Sun/Me/Jup in the 9th. Ketu in the first is kind of difficult (in a material sense) but great for spirituality. One thing I've heard about all this is that people with a strong Sun and or strong 9th house tend to be their own guru. I think this is true. Another thing I've heard is that actually the soul as if chooses the birth chart etc for maximum evolution. This also resonates as true to me.  Some Latter Day Saints once came knocking at the front door. I warned them about my being a TMer. They glanced at each other nervously and asked if I knew that the Bible says that TM is the work of the devil. Eventually I had to explain to them that though I didn't know for sure, what I had experienced was enough for me to take a chance that I was on the right track for me. They said goodbye (-: You know, I get irritated at some of the recent attacks on Christmas and what appears to be a movement in America to remove any trace of Christianity from our lives. But when I hear stories like thisI lose sympathy for Christians. The simple-mindedness of Christianity, IMO, has been very detrimental to spirituality for the past few centuries. Islam, IMO takes the gold medal though. seekliberation From: seekliberation seekliberation@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Either we're talking past each other or you don't read what is written properly. I was mentioning 500 years as an example of how long you could linger on the other side WITHOUT a body and thus without the possebility to think your mantra. That's quite a long time though probably above average. And that's why there should be a certain ugency in this matter since noone really knows for sure how long it will take to be back in a body and be able to resume Sadhana. I had a longer reply written, then erased it allit's futile. You're convinced you're in direct control of your spirituality, while I think that divinity has a plan for us all in the midst of our individual efforts. When I studied astrology, this is explained in terms of the difference between the 8th and 9th house. They both result in people being spiritual, but the 8th house leans more towards spirituality, while 9th house leans more towards religion. The 8th house indicates spiritual development through one's own initiative, while the 9th house more so through revelation. An example of an 8th house type of person would be Sanjaya in the Bhagavad Gita, someone who is psychic and achieves spiritual realizations through his own efforts. Then you have Arjuna, who has no significant or indicated spiritual practice, but has reality revealed directly to him directly by God. In other words, individual effort vs revelation. However, i've heard that the 12th house is the only one that really gets us out of this cycle of birth and death, and it also has a slightly different approach to the subject of spirituality. Ketu, is also imperative in terms of its placement in the chart for enlightenment. Given the fact that we don't have absolute control over the position of the planets at the time of birth, that's enough for me to look at meditation and spirituality as something I do because its my nature, not because I think i'm going to save the world or my own sould if I just 'hurry up' or
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
emptybill: Here you are, screeching like an obsessive old lady with nothing better to do. Is this what your balls are for ... or do you just make this stuff up 'cause you can't think of anything informative to say? Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to. LoL! If I were a man I'd want to be me. I cannot help but go on the record here and feel sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time. :-) Leave Ann's hubby out of this you paranoid, delusional, narcissistic asshole !!!
Re: [FairfieldLife] A question for DrDumbass to Nablusoss
Once the chakras are open they're open. You've been rewired. Anyone who thinks they undid enlightenment were just confused and not enlightened in the first place. On 12/17/2012 08:14 AM, Share Long wrote: Nablusoss I'm not a gov but I did take the MA in SCI so hope you don't mind if I attempt to answer this. First of all Maharishi has explained that with practice of the sidhas we develop all the higher states simultaneously. And I've heard of at least one person, not a TMer going from CC to UC in three days. It was a gov who labeled it such. Anyway, I think of CC as having a nervous system without stress and that once this state is reached, the nervous system is so resilient that it does not take on any more stress. Lines on air. So yes, I'd say real CC is irreversible. I think a person can have Unity experiences. I know someone who is having Brahman experiences these days. But he's realized it's not stabilized Brahman. Anyway, I think if you asked this question on Batgap forum, you'd get some really useful feedback. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A question for DrDumbass In your opinion, is it at all possible to be established in Unity Consciousness and then revert back to ordinary wakingstate ? Is it so that for Unity to be developed Cosmic Consciousness must be a 24/7 reality, and CC is irreverasble ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] We want you but don't need to tell you 'cause we don't need no stincking warrant
On 12/17/2012 08:40 AM, emptybill wrote: Attorney General Secretly Granted Gov. Ability to Develop and Store Dossiers on Innocent Americans * By Kim Zetter http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/author/kimzetter/ , Wired Magazine * 12.13.12 Attorney General Eric Holder. In a secret government agreement granted without approval or debate from lawmakers, the U.S. attorney general recently gave the National Counterterrorism Center sweeping new powers to store dossiers on U.S. citizens, even if they are not suspected of a crime, according to a news report. Earlier this year, Attorney General Eric Holder granted the center the ability to copy entire government databases holding information on flight records, casino-employee lists, the names of Americans hosting foreign-exchange students and other data, and to store it for up to five years, even without suspicion that someone in the database has committed a crime, according to the Wall Street Journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014241278873244783045781716230406400\ 06.html , which broke the story. Whereas previously the law prohibited the center from storing data compilations on U.S. citizens unless they were suspected of terrorist activity or were relevant to an ongoing terrorism investigation, the new powers give the center the ability to not only collect and store vast databases of information but also to trawl through and analyze it for suspicious patterns of behavior in order to uncover activity that could launch an investigation. The changes granted by Holder would also allow databases containing information about U.S. citizens to be shared with foreign governments for their own analysis. A former senior White House official told the Journal that the new changes were breathtaking in scope. But counterterrorism officials tried to downplay the move by telling the Journal that the changes come with strict guidelines about how the data can be used. The guidelines provide rigorous oversight to protect the information that we have, for authorized and narrow purposes, Alexander Joel, Civil Liberties Protection Officer for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, told the paper. The NCTC currently maintains the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment database, or TIDE, which holds data on more than 500,000 identities suspected of terror activity or terrorism links, including friends and families of suspects, and is the basis for the FBI's terrorist watchlist. Under the new rules issued in March, the NCTC can now obtain almost any other government database that it claims is reasonably believed to contain terrorism information. This could conceivably include collections of financial forms submitted by people seeking federally backed mortgages or even the health records of anyone who sought mental or physical treatment at government-run hospitals, such as Veterans Administration facilities, the paper notes. The Obama administration's new rules come after previous surveillance proposals were struck down during the Bush administration, following widespread condemnation. In 2002, the Pentagon's Total Information Awareness program proposed to scrutinize both government and private databases, but public outrage killed the program in essence, though not in spirit. Although Congress de-funded the program in 2003, the NSA continued to collect and sift through immense amounts of data about who Americans spoke with, where they traveled and how they spent their money. The Federal Privacy Act prohibits government agencies from sharing data for any purpose other than the reason for which the data was initially collected, in order to prevent the creation of dossiers, but agencies can do an end-run around this restriction by posting a notice in the Federal Register, providing justification for the data request. Such notices are rarely seen or contested, however. The changes to the rules for the NCTC were sought in large part after authorities failed to catch Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab before he boarded a plane on Christmas Day in 2009 with explosives sewn into his underwear. Abdulmutallab wasn't on the FBI watchlist, but the NCTC had received tips about him, and yet failed to search other government databases to connect dots that might have helped prevent him from boarding the plane. As the NCTC tried to remedy that situation for later suspects, legal obstacles emerged, the Journal reports, since the center was only allowed to query federal databases for a specific name or a specific passenger list. They couldn't look through the databases trolling for general `patterns,' the paper notes. But the request to expand the center's powers led to a heated debate at the White House and the Department of Homeland Security, with Mary Ellen Callahan, then-chief privacy officer for the Department of Homeland Security, leading the charge to defend civil liberties.
[FairfieldLife] So much magnificence at the ocean
My daughter's yoga class listens to this. So sweet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk-bCI8cZR4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk-bCI8cZR4
[FairfieldLife] Re: A question for DrDumbass
Wow - meaty question! I must run off now and drive my daughter up to SF, but I love this question and will give it due diligence when I return. PS some a-hole named Jim over on BatGap wrote something about the relationships of different states, just this morning. Have a look? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: In your opinion, is it at all possible to be established in Unity Consciousness and then revert back to ordinary wakingstate ? Is it so that for Unity to be developed Cosmic Consciousness must be a 24/7 reality, and CC is irreverasble ?
[FairfieldLife] Tomorrow is Barry Wright's Birthday
I think. Bake him a cake, Judy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: If I were a man I'd want to be me. I cannot help but go on the record here and feel sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time. Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann. (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Dec 16, 2012, at 3:43 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: CORRECTION: Stay away from the innocent purity of Ann's husband I You had the pronoun (me) right the first time, my friend. Damn I thought I had the formula on the usage of me vs I nailed - oh well, you got me there :-) Lots of native English speakers get it wrong too. I only mentioned it because you called it a correction, so I figured you really wanted it to be right. If the pronoun is part of a prepositional phrase, it has to be me. You wouldn't say the innocent purity of I. you creepy, evil Sorcerer from Iowa. On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@wrote: Stay away from me and Ann's hubby - you creepy, evil Sorcerer from Iowa.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect to seekliberation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: snip You know, I get irritated at some of the recent attacks on Christmas and what appears to be a movement in America to remove any trace of Christianity from our lives. Oh, please, there is no such movement. That's a ridiculous right-wing meme. You could say there's a movement to reduce the role of religions generally in our public life, in accordance with the Constitution; and because Christianity is the dominant religion in the country, that means the movement more often targets Christianity than other religions. But *nothing* that's been done or proposed in this regard has a thing to do with reducing, let alone eliminating, the role played by Christianity or any other religion in anyone's private life. That remains inviolable. As to the notion of attacks on Christmas, have a look at this op-ed piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/opinion/the-puritan-war-on-christmas.html As the piece points out, the war on Christmas is our oldest Christmas tradition in this country, one begun and sustained by the very most devout of Christians.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno
We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week, the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At least one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts and proof of attendance and upload it to the files section. I appoint LG, Oxcart and myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be accepted. Thanks Share. On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining. -- *From:* Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I meant. Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something Emily attributed to me yesterday. Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of? I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post. 1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile' But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind of context. 2. 'let alone express it.' To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even if you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the word is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word means, and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it would require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a serious post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be away - and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even bringing up the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it was snipped. I do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was having fun with it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with Emily was not in my mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
Thanks Judy. I've been misusing the words than and then - and that's pretty obvious a difference. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Dec 16, 2012, at 3:43 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: CORRECTION: Stay away from the innocent purity of Ann's husband I You had the pronoun (me) right the first time, my friend. Damn I thought I had the formula on the usage of me vs I nailed - oh well, you got me there :-) Lots of native English speakers get it wrong too. I only mentioned it because you called it a correction, so I figured you really wanted it to be right. If the pronoun is part of a prepositional phrase, it has to be me. You wouldn't say the innocent purity of I. you creepy, evil Sorcerer from Iowa. On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@wrote: Stay away from me and Ann's hubby - you creepy, evil Sorcerer from Iowa.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno
One doesn't apologize when there is nothing to apologize for, which is always the case when one is always right. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week, the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At least one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts and proof of attendance and upload it to the files section. I appoint LG, Oxcart and myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be accepted. Thanks Share. On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I meant. Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something Emily attributed to me yesterday. Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of? I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post. 1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile' But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind of context. 2. 'let alone express it.' To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even if you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the word is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word means, and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it would require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a serious post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be away - and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even bringing up the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it was snipped. I do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was having fun with it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with Emily was not in my mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno
The apology below was a simple acknowledgement of something that didn't really matter (she was right; he deleted the meaning of that email). Apologies don't mean anything they don't cost you anything. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno One doesn't apologize when there is nothing to apologize for, which is always the case when one is always right. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week, the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At least one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts and proof of attendance and upload it to the files section. I appoint LG, Oxcart and myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be accepted. Thanks Share. On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I meant. Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something Emily attributed to me yesterday. Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of? I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post. 1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile' But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind of context. 2. 'let alone express it.' To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even if you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the word is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word means, and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it would require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a serious post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be away - and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even bringing up the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it was snipped. I do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was having fun with it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with Emily was not in my mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno
Dear Share (you'll note I gave up the term Sharester when you said you perceived it as something negative.) You responded by calling me EmilyBoo at the end. Please see Dr. Dumbass's apology to Curtis and Curtis's reply. Please note Feste's apology to Robin and Robin's reply. These are good examples of what an apology might look like, literally. The humorous ones I note all the time I won't mention, because they might only be humorous to me. I am a tiny bit creepy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: The apology below was a simple acknowledgement of something that didn't really matter (she was right; he deleted the meaning of that email).  Apologies don't mean anything they don't cost you anything. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno One doesn't apologize when there is nothing to apologize for, which is always the case when one is always right. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno  We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week, the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At least one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts and proof of attendance and upload it to the files section.  I appoint LG, Oxcart and myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be accepted. Thanks Share. On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I meant.àJust to be more clear, I was writing of course about something Emily attributed to me yesterday. Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of? I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post. 1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile' But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind of context. 2. 'let alone express it.' To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even if you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the word is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word means, and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it would require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a serious post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be away - and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even bringing up the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it was snipped. I do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was having fun with it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with Emily was not in my mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sthapatya Veda is just a Placebo Effect to seekliberation
I think i'd have to agree with you that referring to a movement is probably not the right word to say. Whoever it is that's trying to eliminate reference to 'Christmas' and images of Jesus during holidays, they are statistically a minority of Americans. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass, as I think the simple-mindedness of Christianity slows down our spiritual growth and understanding. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: snip You know, I get irritated at some of the recent attacks on Christmas and what appears to be a movement in America to remove any trace of Christianity from our lives. Oh, please, there is no such movement. That's a ridiculous right-wing meme. You could say there's a movement to reduce the role of religions generally in our public life, in accordance with the Constitution; and because Christianity is the dominant religion in the country, that means the movement more often targets Christianity than other religions. But *nothing* that's been done or proposed in this regard has a thing to do with reducing, let alone eliminating, the role played by Christianity or any other religion in anyone's private life. That remains inviolable. As to the notion of attacks on Christmas, have a look at this op-ed piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/opinion/the-puritan-war-on-christmas.html As the piece points out, the war on Christmas is our oldest Christmas tradition in this country, one begun and sustained by the very most devout of Christians.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno
[wikipedia]: 'Imbecile was a medical category of people with moderate to severe mental retardation, as well as a type of criminal. The term arises from the Latin word imbecillus, meaning weak, or weak-minded. It included people with an IQ of 2650, between moron (IQ of 5170) and idiot (IQ of 025).' 'The meaning was further refined into mental and moral imbecility. The concepts of moral insanity, moral idiocy, and moral imbecility, led to the emerging field of eugenic criminology, which held that crime can be reduced by preventing feeble-minded people from reproducing.' 'The concept is closely associated with psychology, psychiatry, criminology, and eugenics. However, the term imbecile quickly passed into vernacular usage as a derogatory term, and fell out of professional use in the 20th century in favor of mental retardation.' 'In recent decades, the phrases mental retardation, mentally retarded, and retarded have similarly come to be viewed as derogatory terms and their usage now is considered to be politically incorrect much like the words moron, imbecile, and idiot, formerly used as scientific terms in the early 20th century, also came to be viewed as derogatory. On October 5, 2010, President Barack Obama signed Senate Bill 2781, known as Rosa's Law, which changed references in many Federal statutes that referred to mental retardation to refer instead to intellectual disability.' So all you disabie retards, what more idiotic, moronic, imbecilic behaviour can we expect here? In view that these now medically disused terms reffered to IQs 70 or lower, no one here on FFL probably falls into any of these categories, though certainly there are times when maybe we wish a wee bit some particular person, as the result of some particular post or posts, would thereby fall in line with one of these categories.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: If I were a man I would want to be me. Ann likes the person that she is. Her femaleness does not deprive her of the imagination to conceive of herself as a man--and yet in thinking of what kind of man she would like to be, she realizes she possesses the specific attributes which, for her, would be almost ideal in having to be a man. There is no limitation imposed upon herself as a woman; but there is the recognition *as a person* she encompasses--or could encompass, based upon her personal ingredients--the form of herself imagined as a man. It is also a kind of private in-joke between Ann and all those who know her: Ann has a large enough personality to make it an unnatural act to defer--just based on her femininity--to any man. Ann holds within her person, then, the possibility of transmuting what she is, into the form of a man--which says what a powerful woman she is--and yet how her very person would constitute the basis for being a man she would respect and love. She can see herself as being a beautiful man. Now, that's some woman. Thank you for this, very kind words indeed. I would say that the sense I have always had of myself has transcended gender and has always just been a sense of me without the male or female attached to it. But I know that my father was a contributing factor in never allowing me to feel in any way less, compromised, incapable or undermined by the fact of my female gender. He was a very equal opportunity guy who would never have dreamed his daughter was handicapped in some way having been born a woman. That definitely rubbed off on me growing up. And since the subject of husbands has come up it is also interesting to note that while I embody aspects of what many people categorize as male my spouse is also gifted with some wonderful female qualities. All of these sides of us coming together within our relationship is what makes the two of us a whole. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: If I were a man I'd want to be me. I cannot help but go on the record here and feel sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time. Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann. (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.) Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her usual drama queenery and faux outrage. As Emily would say, A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! As if the smiley face would make any difference. Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a comeback. What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as committed to turning *everything* into an argument as Judy is understood No, son, I made my point. *You're* trying to turn it into an argument. -- is that I cannot imagine anything more trying than maintaining a relationship with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of narcissism that would be tough to cope with. And of course that isn't what Ann said, nor what she meant. What an insane interpretation. Relationships are all about the *differences* between people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* to be with a clone of themselves? Nobody would want that. Including Ann. Read what she wrote again, you demented dimwit: And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I were a man I'd want to be me. Nothing to do with a *relationship*. It's only your twisted mind that would make this into, My ideal man would be just like me. I'm just suggesting that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very telling. What's telling, Barry, is the deterioration of your mental faculties exemplified by this post. And note that you've managed to bust your faux outrage about my not quoting your smiley face. You never meant your remark to be anything but a nasty putdown of Ann. Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet Another Attempt to get everybody arguing, and thus to drag things down to her level. There's no argument here, Barry. *You* tried to start one, but you just made yourself look RLY RLY STPID. Now go sit in the corner.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
The phrase you complete me comes to mind. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: If I were a man I would want to be me. Ann likes the person that she is. Her femaleness does not deprive her of the imagination to conceive of herself as a man--and yet in thinking of what kind of man she would like to be, she realizes she possesses the specific attributes which, for her, would be almost ideal in having to be a man. There is no limitation imposed upon herself as a woman; but there is the recognition *as a person* she encompasses--or could encompass, based upon her personal ingredients--the form of herself imagined as a man. It is also a kind of private in-joke between Ann and all those who know her: Ann has a large enough personality to make it an unnatural act to defer--just based on her femininity--to any man. Ann holds within her person, then, the possibility of transmuting what she is, into the form of a man--which says what a powerful woman she is--and yet how her very person would constitute the basis for being a man she would respect and love. She can see herself as being a beautiful man. Now, that's some woman. Thank you for this, very kind words indeed. I would say that the sense I have always had of myself has transcended gender and has always just been a sense of me without the male or female attached to it. But I know that my father was a contributing factor in never allowing me to feel in any way less, compromised, incapable or undermined by the fact of my female gender. He was a very equal opportunity guy who would never have dreamed his daughter was handicapped in some way having been born a woman. That definitely rubbed off on me growing up. And since the subject of husbands has come up it is also interesting to note that while I embody aspects of what many people categorize as male my spouse is also gifted with some wonderful female qualities. All of these sides of us coming together within our relationship is what makes the two of us a whole. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: If I were a man I'd want to be me. I cannot help but go on the record here and feel sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time. Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann. (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.) Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her usual drama queenery and faux outrage. As Emily would say, A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! As if the smiley face would make any difference. Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a comeback. What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as committed to turning *everything* into an argument as Judy is understood No, son, I made my point. *You're* trying to turn it into an argument. -- is that I cannot imagine anything more trying than maintaining a relationship with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of narcissism that would be tough to cope with. And of course that isn't what Ann said, nor what she meant. What an insane interpretation. Relationships are all about the *differences* between people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* to be with a clone of themselves? Nobody would want that. Including Ann. Read what she wrote again, you demented dimwit: And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I were a man I'd want to be me. Nothing to do with a *relationship*. It's only your twisted mind that would make this into, My ideal man would be just like me. I'm just suggesting that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very telling. What's telling, Barry, is the deterioration of your mental faculties exemplified by this post. And note that you've managed to bust your faux outrage about my not quoting your smiley face. You never meant your remark to be anything but a nasty putdown of Ann. Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet Another Attempt to
[FairfieldLife] Re: A question for DrDumbass
Ok, I'm back - No, you don't need 24/7 CC, to have a UC experience - as a correlation, I had many, many GC experiences in waking state. To be *established* in UC, though, is a whole 'nother issue. First off, with MMY's techniques, the SOCs of CC-GC-UC, are not really stable states of consciousness, merely states of awareness, on the way to exiting from the spiritual game altogether. So, being established in UC is a misnomer. If you look at the definitions of CC, GC, and even UC, they are all in terms of the Self; ripening, like an avocado. Even when the Self recognizes Oneness, in UC, it remains in the domain of the Self, the Infinite Personal. The goal is the practical dissolution, or full integration, of any relative state of awareness. That way, they are all available, though we don't identify with any of them. Hope that helps! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: In your opinion, is it at all possible to be established in Unity Consciousness and then revert back to ordinary wakingstate ? Is it so that for Unity to be developed Cosmic Consciousness must be a 24/7 reality, and CC is irreverasble ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
And yet, there is a complete beauty, too, in remaining males and females. I met my wife 16 years ago, after she had completed sailing around the world as a crew of two, in a thirty foot sailboat. We had both been to Borobudur...at very different times.:-) Together, we have a lovely partnership, of equality and respect, and fun, and joy. But not because she is less a woman, and I am less a man. Each of us plays our part - not defined roles, but working with our essential strengths to forge a stronger bond, and make life more enjoyable for each of us. Inequality in any setting doesn't work, and I have never seen my wife as anything but an equal partner - not really a fair claim, though, since I did not come into this life, either by karma, or upbringing, with the idea that women were anything other than amazing, and equal to me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: The phrase you complete me comes to mind.  From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: If I were a man I would want to be me. Ann likes the person that she is. Her femaleness does not deprive her of the imagination to conceive of herself as a man--and yet in thinking of what kind of man she would like to be, she realizes she possesses the specific attributes which, for her, would be almost ideal in having to be a man. There is no limitation imposed upon herself as a woman; but there is the recognition *as a person* she encompasses--or could encompass, based upon her personal ingredients--the form of herself imagined as a man. It is also a kind of private in-joke between Ann and all those who know her: Ann has a large enough personality to make it an unnatural act to defer--just based on her femininity--to any man. Ann holds within her person, then, the possibility of transmuting what she is, into the form of a man--which says what a powerful woman she is--and yet how her very person would constitute the basis for being a man she would respect and love. She can see herself as being a beautiful man. Now, that's some woman. Thank you for this, very kind words indeed. I would say that the sense I have always had of myself has transcended gender and has always just been a sense of me without the male or female attached to it. But I know that my father was a contributing factor in never allowing me to feel in any way less, compromised, incapable or undermined by the fact of my female gender. He was a very equal opportunity guy who would never have dreamed his daughter was handicapped in some way having been born a woman. That definitely rubbed off on me growing up. And since the subject of husbands has come up it is also interesting to note that while I embody aspects of what many people categorize as male my spouse is also gifted with some wonderful female qualities. All of these sides of us coming together within our relationship is what makes the two of us a whole. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: If I were a man I'd want to be me. I cannot help but go on the record here and feel sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time. Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann. (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.) Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her usual drama queenery and faux outrage. As Emily would say, A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! As if the smiley face would make any difference. Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a comeback. What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as committed to turning *everything* into an argument as Judy is understood No, son, I made my point. *You're* trying to turn it into an argument. -- is that I cannot imagine anything more trying than maintaining a relationship with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of narcissism that would be tough to cope with. And of course that isn't what Ann said, nor what she
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cream, whole milk and eggs, to Buck Carde
dear De Facto Ever Watchful, Doc's Inn across from the public library offers organic buffalo burgers. We could order them extra rare and that would take care of the blood requirement per the Maasai. What support of Nature! Dear Carde, what's big in some Fairfield circles these days is fermented foods like sauerkraut and kefir. A local woman has created a whole cottage industry supplying such for the community. And then there are the raw foodies. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cream, whole milk and eggs, and stuff?? Dear Card, this is really terribly interesting science and is proly completely relevant to the Invincible America Assembly right now. Sort of like the results in the public 'school lunch program' it would probably improve spiritual experiences in the Dome quite a lot in the meditation if more people in there were better nourished and particularly if the the course administration would serve some scrambled eggs or real protein along with coffee and cream during the mid-morning break. Evidently it would be very good to enforce a better diet to have a much healthier group of meditators, ..Clean your plate or no stipend today!. The Science says so. Ever watchful to improve the spiritual experience of everyone in the large group program, -Buck, First De Facto Public Health Officer of the Age of Enlightenment up to now and Heaven on Earth after 12.21.2012 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: http://blueheronhealthnews.com/site/?p=6665 Micheal Cook · Top Commenter Throughout our history a healthy diet was one which was based mainly on foods of animal origin and high in fats. Where the major health problems occured in Britain, it was not among people who ate a lot of fat, but in those who did not get enough.The comparatively wealthy, who ate meat and dairy produce regularly, had average lifespans which were comparable with or better than those of today. It was the poor who could not afford such foods who suffered high levels of infant mortality, poor growth and shorter, less healthy lives. In the 1920's, Sir John Boyd Orr conducted a number of studies which compared growth rates of children in public schools with those in state run schools. He found that those from wealthier backgrounds were significantly taller than their poorer peers. After examining their relative diets and changing the constituents, Boyd Orr proved conclusively that children of the socially deprived, who lived on a largely carbohydrate diet of bread and potatoes, benefitted from a diet supplemented with full-cream milk. Boyd Orr's studies found confirmation in observations among the people's of India made by Sir Robert McCarrison, a colonial medical officer. He compared the southern Indians, who ate very little in the way of dairy produce and who were of stunted growth and prone to disease, with their neighbours to the north, the Sikhs, who drank a great deal of milk and were fit and healthy. Maasai, who lived almost exclusively on blood and milk, with their unhealthy vegetarian neighbours, the Kikuyu. That added to the weight of evidence. Boyd Orr concluded that the food intake of half the British population was seriously deficient in a number of what he called 'protective constitiuents' which were necessary for good health. In the late 1930's he proposed that the British people should drink more milk, and eat more dairy produce and meat. The British government of the time recommended that milk consumption should be doubled and introduced free school milk. The British Medical Association, giving specific amounts, advised that the population should consume 80% more milk, 55% more eggs, 40% more butter and 30% more meat. Later, with the advent of television advertising, the government sponsored its own 'go to work on an egg' campaign. Except for the period of food rationing during the 1940s and early 1950s, Boyd Orr's recommended diet was the standard British fare. We ate breakfast of eggs and fatty bacon fried in lard: dripping, the fat from the sunday roast, was saved to have on bread and toast: we drank full cream milk and ate butter. Only the poor ate margarine: and only the poor had high levels of disease. The recommendations to eat a relatively high-fat, high-animal protein diet led to a spectacular decrease in diseases: rickets, called the 'English Disease' because it was so widespread together with other defeciency diseases, largely disappeared from our lives: child deaths from diptheria, measles, scarlet fever and whooping cough also fell dramatically well before the introduction of anti-biotics and widespread immunisation. Although other factors helped, most important was the higher resistance of children to disease that
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cream, whole milk and eggs, to Buck Carde
for the Masai, you must milk the live cattle of their blood, and milk, and drink it, as a smoothie. Personally, I'll stick with El Jimador Reposado tequila, served in shot glasses made of prehistoric salt, thank you.:-0 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear De Facto Ever Watchful, Doc's Inn across from the public library offers organic buffalo burgers. We could order them extra rare and that would take care of the blood requirement per the Maasai. What support of Nature! Dear Carde, what's big in some Fairfield circles these days is fermented foods like sauerkraut and kefir. A local woman has created a whole cottage industry supplying such for the community. And then there are the raw foodies. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cream, whole milk and eggs, and stuff??  Dear Card, this is really terribly interesting science and is proly completely relevant to the Invincible America Assembly right now. Sort of like the results in the public 'school lunch program' it would probably improve spiritual experiences in the Dome quite a lot in the meditation if more people in there were better nourished and particularly if the the course administration would serve some scrambled eggs or real protein along with coffee and cream during the mid-morning break. Evidently it would be very good to enforce a better diet to have a much healthier group of meditators, ..Clean your plate or no stipend today!. The Science says so. Ever watchful to improve the spiritual experience of everyone in the large group program, -Buck, First De Facto Public Health Officer of the Age of Enlightenment up to now and Heaven on Earth after 12.21.2012 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@ wrote: http://blueheronhealthnews.com/site/?p=6665 Micheal Cook · Top Commenter Throughout our history a healthy diet was one which was based mainly on foods of animal origin and high in fats. Where the major health problems occured in Britain, it was not among people who ate a lot of fat, but in those who did not get enough.The comparatively wealthy, who ate meat and dairy produce regularly, had average lifespans which were comparable with or better than those of today. It was the poor who could not afford such foods who suffered high levels of infant mortality, poor growth and shorter, less healthy lives. In the 1920's, Sir John Boyd Orr conducted a number of studies which compared growth rates of children in public schools with those in state run schools. He found that those from wealthier backgrounds were significantly taller than their poorer peers. After examining their relative diets and changing the constituents, Boyd Orr proved conclusively that children of the socially deprived, who lived on a largely carbohydrate diet of bread and potatoes, benefitted from a diet supplemented with full-cream milk. Boyd Orr's studies found confirmation in observations among the people's of India made by Sir Robert McCarrison, a colonial medical officer. He compared the southern Indians, who ate very little in the way of dairy produce and who were of stunted growth and prone to disease, with their neighbours to the north, the Sikhs, who drank a great deal of milk and were fit and healthy. Maasai, who lived almost exclusively on blood and milk, with their unhealthy vegetarian neighbours, the Kikuyu. That added to the weight of evidence. Boyd Orr concluded that the food intake of half the British population was seriously deficient in a number of what he called 'protective constitiuents' which were necessary for good health. In the late 1930's he proposed that the British people should drink more milk, and eat more dairy produce and meat. The British government of the time recommended that milk consumption should be doubled and introduced free school milk. The British Medical Association, giving specific amounts, advised that the population should consume 80% more milk, 55% more eggs, 40% more butter and 30% more meat. Later, with the advent of television advertising, the government sponsored its own 'go to work on an egg' campaign. Except for the period of food rationing during the 1940s and early 1950s, Boyd Orr's recommended diet was the standard British fare. We ate breakfast of eggs and fatty bacon fried in lard: dripping, the fat from the sunday roast, was saved to have on bread and toast: we drank full cream milk and ate butter. Only the poor ate margarine: and only the poor had high levels of disease. The recommendations to eat a relatively high-fat, high-animal protein diet led to a spectacular decrease in diseases: rickets, called the 'English
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: And yet, there is a complete beauty, too, in remaining males and females. I met my wife 16 years ago, after she had completed sailing around the world as a crew of two, in a thirty foot sailboat. We had both been to Borobudur...at very different times.:-) Wow wow wow! Has she written about her experience? What an amazing challenge. If you care to share any details from her experiences on the ocean, I would be very interested. It seems like an unimaginable level of guts to me. I'm guessing when she puts her foot down about something around the house, it stays down! Together, we have a lovely partnership, of equality and respect, and fun, and joy. But not because she is less a woman, and I am less a man. Each of us plays our part - not defined roles, but working with our essential strengths to forge a stronger bond, and make life more enjoyable for each of us. Inequality in any setting doesn't work, and I have never seen my wife as anything but an equal partner - not really a fair claim, though, since I did not come into this life, either by karma, or upbringing, with the idea that women were anything other than amazing, and equal to me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: The phrase you complete me comes to mind.  From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: If I were a man I would want to be me. Ann likes the person that she is. Her femaleness does not deprive her of the imagination to conceive of herself as a man--and yet in thinking of what kind of man she would like to be, she realizes she possesses the specific attributes which, for her, would be almost ideal in having to be a man. There is no limitation imposed upon herself as a woman; but there is the recognition *as a person* she encompasses--or could encompass, based upon her personal ingredients--the form of herself imagined as a man. It is also a kind of private in-joke between Ann and all those who know her: Ann has a large enough personality to make it an unnatural act to defer--just based on her femininity--to any man. Ann holds within her person, then, the possibility of transmuting what she is, into the form of a man--which says what a powerful woman she is--and yet how her very person would constitute the basis for being a man she would respect and love. She can see herself as being a beautiful man. Now, that's some woman. Thank you for this, very kind words indeed. I would say that the sense I have always had of myself has transcended gender and has always just been a sense of me without the male or female attached to it. But I know that my father was a contributing factor in never allowing me to feel in any way less, compromised, incapable or undermined by the fact of my female gender. He was a very equal opportunity guy who would never have dreamed his daughter was handicapped in some way having been born a woman. That definitely rubbed off on me growing up. And since the subject of husbands has come up it is also interesting to note that while I embody aspects of what many people categorize as male my spouse is also gifted with some wonderful female qualities. All of these sides of us coming together within our relationship is what makes the two of us a whole. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: If I were a man I'd want to be me. I cannot help but go on the record here and feel sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time. Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann. (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.) Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her usual drama queenery and faux outrage. As Emily would say, A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! As if the smiley face would make any difference. Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a comeback. What I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno
Yes dear Emily, the Share Saga has taken a toll on me. My innocence has been lost, I'm very cynical about apologies. No longer will I accept anyone's apologies at face value, no madam, I will create lot of ruckus. Healers have to be involved, pastoral counselors are a must, John Newton's grace is indispensable. Proofs will be demanded, an independent jury comprised of wts, non-wts members will be convened and everything meticulously examined. I'm sick and tired of this bullshit. On Dec 17, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote: One doesn't apologize when there is nothing to apologize for, which is always the case when one is always right. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week, the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At least one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts and proof of attendance and upload it to the files section. I appoint LG, Oxcart and myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be accepted. Thanks Share. On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I meant. Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something Emily attributed to me yesterday. Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of? I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post. 1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile' But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind of context. 2. 'let alone express it.' To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even if you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the word is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word means, and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it would require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a serious post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be away - and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even bringing up the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it was snipped. I do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was having fun with it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with Emily was not in my mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A question for DrDumbass to Nablusoss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Once the chakras are open they're open. You've been rewired. Anyone who thinks they undid enlightenment were just confused and not enlightened in the first place. Well, that certainly is the understanding one has if one has studied with Maharishi, including myself. I posted the question to DR.Dumbass because he has shown to have profound understanding on the subject. I also wonder why this question did not arise as soon as Robin turned up on FFL with his story. On 12/17/2012 08:14 AM, Share Long wrote: Nablusoss I'm not a gov but I did take the MA in SCI so hope you don't mind if I attempt to answer this. Not at all. First of all Maharishi has explained that with practice of the sidhas we develop all the higher states simultaneously. And I've heard of at least one person, not a TMer going from CC to UC in three days. It was a gov who labeled it such. Yes, why not ? When the time is ripe even the smell of a rotten bus could be the factor that push you into enlightenment in an instant. Anyway, I think of CC as having a nervous system without stress and that once this state is reached, the nervous system is so resilient that it does not take on any more stress. Lines on air. So yes, I'd say real CC is irreversible. I think a person can have Unity experiences. I know someone who is having Brahman experiences these days. But he's realized it's not stabilized Brahman. Anyway, I think if you asked this question on Batgap forum, you'd get some really useful feedback. I can only hope you are joking. I'm afraid my impression is that the majority there have serious difficulties understand their relative nature and role in the world, let alone their absolute, unchanging nature :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:56 AM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Dec 16, 2012, at 3:43 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: CORRECTION: Stay away from the innocent purity of Ann's husband I You had the pronoun (me) right the first time, my friend. Damn I thought I had the formula on the usage of me vs I nailed - oh well, you got me there :-) Lots of native English speakers get it wrong too. I only mentioned it because you called it a correction, so I figured you really wanted it to be right. If the pronoun is part of a prepositional phrase, it has to be me. You wouldn't say the innocent purity of I. You are right Judy. I forgot to clarify - I only had trouble in the past with the conjunctions of the personal pronoun. Then I read somewhere the easy solution for it - breaking apart the conjunction into two separate sentences. This helps - as you point above, anyway I make too many quick posts on FFL and don't really bother to check it thoroughly. In this case my correction was to playfully add the innocent purity of Ann's husband and me :-)
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A question for DrDumbass to Nablusoss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Once the chakras are open they're open. You've been rewired. Anyone who thinks they undid enlightenment were just confused and not enlightened in the first place. Well, that certainly is the understanding one has if one has studied with Maharishi, including myself. I posted the question to DR.Dumbass because he has shown to have profound understanding on the subject. I also wonder why this question did not arise as soon as Robin turned up on FFL with his story. It did arise and was discussed quite a bit. Me, I wonder whether anyone who had been enlightened was ever so determined to get back to waking state that they spent a quarter of a century working on it. I haven't read any of her books, but from listening to friends in FF who have, it sounds like Bernadette Roberts took the hammer of Catholic indoctrination to smash her experience of no self in order to make it conform to her Catholicism. Her original book is apparently a crystal clear description of nondual awakening, but her newer book was described as painful to read, as she basically Catholicizes away her enlightenment.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
Nicely put Mr. Carlsen. Not a putdown, but this was very understandable and I enjoyed reading it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote: If I were a man I would want to be me. Ann likes the person that she is. Her femaleness does not deprive her of the imagination to conceive of herself as a man--and yet in thinking of what kind of man she would like to be, she realizes she possesses the specific attributes which, for her, would be almost ideal in having to be a man. There is no limitation imposed upon herself as a woman; but there is the recognition *as a person* she encompasses--or could encompass, based upon her personal ingredients--the form of herself imagined as a man. It is also a kind of private in-joke between Ann and all those who know her: Ann has a large enough personality to make it an unnatural act to defer--just based on her femininity--to any man. Ann holds within her person, then, the possibility of transmuting what she is, into the form of a man--which says what a powerful woman she is--and yet how her very person would constitute the basis for being a man she would respect and love. She can see herself as being a beautiful man. Now, that's some woman. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: If I were a man I'd want to be me. I cannot help but go on the record here and feel sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time. Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann. (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.) Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her usual drama queenery and faux outrage. As Emily would say, A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! As if the smiley face would make any difference. Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a comeback. What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as committed to turning *everything* into an argument as Judy is understood No, son, I made my point. *You're* trying to turn it into an argument. -- is that I cannot imagine anything more trying than maintaining a relationship with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of narcissism that would be tough to cope with. And of course that isn't what Ann said, nor what she meant. What an insane interpretation. Relationships are all about the *differences* between people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* to be with a clone of themselves? Nobody would want that. Including Ann. Read what she wrote again, you demented dimwit: And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I were a man I'd want to be me. Nothing to do with a *relationship*. It's only your twisted mind that would make this into, My ideal man would be just like me. I'm just suggesting that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very telling. What's telling, Barry, is the deterioration of your mental faculties exemplified by this post. And note that you've managed to bust your faux outrage about my not quoting your smiley face. You never meant your remark to be anything but a nasty putdown of Ann. Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet Another Attempt to get everybody arguing, and thus to drag things down to her level. There's no argument here, Barry. *You* tried to start one, but you just made yourself look RLY RLY STPID. Now go sit in the corner.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cream, whole milk and eggs, to Buck Carde
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: dear De Facto Ever Watchful, Doc's Inn across from the public library offers organic buffalo burgers. We could order them extra rare and that would take care of the blood requirement per the Maasai. What support of Nature! Dear Carde, what's big in some Fairfield circles these days is fermented foods like sauerkraut and kefir. Do fermented grapes, potatoes and barley count too?  A local woman has created a whole cottage industry supplying such for the community. She's called a 'moonshiner'.  And then there are the raw foodies. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cream, whole milk and eggs, and stuff??  Dear Card, this is really terribly interesting science and is proly completely relevant to the Invincible America Assembly right now. Sort of like the results in the public 'school lunch program' it would probably improve spiritual experiences in the Dome quite a lot in the meditation if more people in there were better nourished and particularly if the the course administration would serve some scrambled eggs or real protein along with coffee and cream during the mid-morning break. Evidently it would be very good to enforce a better diet to have a much healthier group of meditators, ..Clean your plate or no stipend today!. The Science says so. Ever watchful to improve the spiritual experience of everyone in the large group program, -Buck, First De Facto Public Health Officer of the Age of Enlightenment up to now and Heaven on Earth after 12.21.2012 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@ wrote: http://blueheronhealthnews.com/site/?p=6665 Micheal Cook · Top Commenter Throughout our history a healthy diet was one which was based mainly on foods of animal origin and high in fats. Where the major health problems occured in Britain, it was not among people who ate a lot of fat, but in those who did not get enough.The comparatively wealthy, who ate meat and dairy produce regularly, had average lifespans which were comparable with or better than those of today. It was the poor who could not afford such foods who suffered high levels of infant mortality, poor growth and shorter, less healthy lives. In the 1920's, Sir John Boyd Orr conducted a number of studies which compared growth rates of children in public schools with those in state run schools. He found that those from wealthier backgrounds were significantly taller than their poorer peers. After examining their relative diets and changing the constituents, Boyd Orr proved conclusively that children of the socially deprived, who lived on a largely carbohydrate diet of bread and potatoes, benefitted from a diet supplemented with full-cream milk. Boyd Orr's studies found confirmation in observations among the people's of India made by Sir Robert McCarrison, a colonial medical officer. He compared the southern Indians, who ate very little in the way of dairy produce and who were of stunted growth and prone to disease, with their neighbours to the north, the Sikhs, who drank a great deal of milk and were fit and healthy. Maasai, who lived almost exclusively on blood and milk, with their unhealthy vegetarian neighbours, the Kikuyu. That added to the weight of evidence. Boyd Orr concluded that the food intake of half the British population was seriously deficient in a number of what he called 'protective constitiuents' which were necessary for good health. In the late 1930's he proposed that the British people should drink more milk, and eat more dairy produce and meat. The British government of the time recommended that milk consumption should be doubled and introduced free school milk. The British Medical Association, giving specific amounts, advised that the population should consume 80% more milk, 55% more eggs, 40% more butter and 30% more meat. Later, with the advent of television advertising, the government sponsored its own 'go to work on an egg' campaign. Except for the period of food rationing during the 1940s and early 1950s, Boyd Orr's recommended diet was the standard British fare. We ate breakfast of eggs and fatty bacon fried in lard: dripping, the fat from the sunday roast, was saved to have on bread and toast: we drank full cream milk and ate butter. Only the poor ate margarine: and only the poor had high levels of disease. The recommendations to eat a relatively high-fat, high-animal protein diet led to a spectacular decrease in diseases: rickets, called the 'English Disease' because it was so widespread together with other defeciency diseases, largely disappeared from our lives: child deaths from
[FairfieldLife] Re: A question for DrDumbass to Nablusoss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Once the chakras are open they're open. You've been rewired. Anyone who thinks they undid enlightenment were just confused and not enlightened in the first place. Well, that certainly is the understanding one has if one has studied with Maharishi, including myself. I posted the question to DR.Dumbass because he has shown to have profound understanding on the subject. I also wonder why this question did not arise as soon as Robin turned up on FFL with his story. I don't think determining what state of consciousness someone (including oneself) is functioning from is as easy as figuring out if one has the measles, a fever or AIDS. But if I read what many write here it is like this can all be categorized like some sort of yoghurt culture. What objective measurement is there to do such a thing?. There is no thermometer or blood test that can give anyone a reading. Putting these different states of consciousness into such tight knit categories seems way too simplistic and inflexible. It is the human brain we are speaking about here. There may be outside forces, effects, influences that could be said to 'encourage' enlightenment but ultimately these things act on the physical organ we call the human brain. That organ is incredibly adaptable, immeasurably mysterious, chemically balancing on the slightest potential for catastrophic fluctuations; who is to say what it can do, where it can take its recipient? Who is any expert here or anywhere? Who is to say things can not move in one direction and then change, morph, grow, regress? I just don't buy it. I don't believe the so-called states of consciousness can be put into little boxes where they sit like some encased specimens. How can they even be categorized at all, have names? For every individual who is allegedly in some other state they wouldn't all suddenly become clones of one another acting similarly, exhibiting the same interests, speech patterns, decisions, priorities so who is determining that Dick and Sally are both in UC? Certainly not Dick and Sally I hope. If Robin had never meditated or heard of MMY or sought out any spiritual path and he had had the experience he had in Arosa on that mountain during a hike with a friend I wonder what he would have thought happened. How would he explain it? How, in the innocence of having no knowledge that different states of consciousness might even exist, would he feel about how he was seeing the world? Would it be scary, beautiful, terrible? I only thought of this now, maybe he will tell us. And how about anyone else here who believes themselves enlightened? Can you imagine what it would have been like to have 'slipped' into another mental state but not have known anything about the fact/idea that these states existed? I know one thing though, I am in AC, anyone want to join me? It's pretty cool here. On 12/17/2012 08:14 AM, Share Long wrote: Nablusoss I'm not a gov but I did take the MA in SCI so hope you don't mind if I attempt to answer this. Not at all. First of all Maharishi has explained that with practice of the sidhas we develop all the higher states simultaneously. And I've heard of at least one person, not a TMer going from CC to UC in three days. It was a gov who labeled it such. Yes, why not ? When the time is ripe even the smell of a rotten bus could be the factor that push you into enlightenment in an instant. Anyway, I think of CC as having a nervous system without stress and that once this state is reached, the nervous system is so resilient that it does not take on any more stress. Lines on air. So yes, I'd say real CC is irreversible. I think a person can have Unity experiences. I know someone who is having Brahman experiences these days. But he's realized it's not stabilized Brahman. Anyway, I think if you asked this question on Batgap forum, you'd get some really useful feedback. I can only hope you are joking. I'm afraid my impression is that the majority there have serious difficulties understand their relative nature and role in the world, let alone their absolute, unchanging nature :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid
The route began in Tahiti, across the Pacific, then on into Australia, Indonesia, Malaysia, across the Indian Ocean, Madagascar, South Africa, Namibia, across the South Atlantic, and ended in Venezuela. I've been trying to get her to publish the book since I met her. Yeah, we are both well matched. Her foot doesn't always stay down, though - lol. I grew up at the age of six, galloping a horse through the tea fields of Java, so it all evens out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: And yet, there is a complete beauty, too, in remaining males and females. I met my wife 16 years ago, after she had completed sailing around the world as a crew of two, in a thirty foot sailboat. We had both been to Borobudur...at very different times.:-) Wow wow wow! Has she written about her experience? What an amazing challenge. If you care to share any details from her experiences on the ocean, I would be very interested. It seems like an unimaginable level of guts to me. I'm guessing when she puts her foot down about something around the house, it stays down! Together, we have a lovely partnership, of equality and respect, and fun, and joy. But not because she is less a woman, and I am less a man. Each of us plays our part - not defined roles, but working with our essential strengths to forge a stronger bond, and make life more enjoyable for each of us. Inequality in any setting doesn't work, and I have never seen my wife as anything but an equal partner - not really a fair claim, though, since I did not come into this life, either by karma, or upbringing, with the idea that women were anything other than amazing, and equal to me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: The phrase you complete me comes to mind.  From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote: If I were a man I would want to be me. Ann likes the person that she is. Her femaleness does not deprive her of the imagination to conceive of herself as a man--and yet in thinking of what kind of man she would like to be, she realizes she possesses the specific attributes which, for her, would be almost ideal in having to be a man. There is no limitation imposed upon herself as a woman; but there is the recognition *as a person* she encompasses--or could encompass, based upon her personal ingredients--the form of herself imagined as a man. It is also a kind of private in-joke between Ann and all those who know her: Ann has a large enough personality to make it an unnatural act to defer--just based on her femininity--to any man. Ann holds within her person, then, the possibility of transmuting what she is, into the form of a man--which says what a powerful woman she is--and yet how her very person would constitute the basis for being a man she would respect and love. She can see herself as being a beautiful man. Now, that's some woman. Thank you for this, very kind words indeed. I would say that the sense I have always had of myself has transcended gender and has always just been a sense of me without the male or female attached to it. But I know that my father was a contributing factor in never allowing me to feel in any way less, compromised, incapable or undermined by the fact of my female gender. He was a very equal opportunity guy who would never have dreamed his daughter was handicapped in some way having been born a woman. That definitely rubbed off on me growing up. And since the subject of husbands has come up it is also interesting to note that while I embody aspects of what many people categorize as male my spouse is also gifted with some wonderful female qualities. All of these sides of us coming together within our relationship is what makes the two of us a whole. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote: If I were a man I'd want to be me. I cannot help but go on the record here and feel sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the
[FairfieldLife] Re: A question for DrDumbass
My question was; in your opinion, is CC 24/7 established Cosmic Consciousness, reversible ? Emphatically no!! When I first began experiencing 24/7 witnessing, silence, or whatever you want to call it, I did not treat it tenderly - I did everything I could to destroy it within myself. Wasn't possible. Just keeps getting stronger. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Ok, I'm back - No, you don't need 24/7 CC, to have a UC experience - as a correlation, I had many, many GC experiences in waking state. To be *established* in UC, though, is a whole 'nother issue. First off, with MMY's techniques, the SOCs of CC-GC-UC, are not really stable states of consciousness, merely states of awareness, on the way to exiting from the spiritual game altogether. So, being established in UC is a misnomer. If you look at the definitions of CC, GC, and even UC, they are all in terms of the Self; ripening, like an avocado. Even when the Self recognizes Oneness, in UC, it remains in the domain of the Self, the Infinite Personal. The goal is the practical dissolution, or full integration, of any relative state of awareness. That way, they are all available, though we don't identify with any of them. Hope that helps! Not really :-) Let's try to make this clearer, one step at the time: I think we agree that there is some state we can call Cosmic Consciousness and that when this state eventually becomes permanent it gives rise to other states. AND that experiences of all states of consciousness can appear anytime even without any sort of permanency of any other state. So far I think we all agree. Anyone can have experiences of UC, the majority on this board probably had some such experiences, but let's stick to CC for a moment. My question was; in your opinion, is CC 24/7 established Cosmic Consciousness, reversible ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: A question for DrDumbass
I grew up at the age of six, galloping a horse through the tea fields of Java, so it all evens out. This is where Ann has posed her question about consciousness. And it has to be answered from there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: My question was; in your opinion, is CC 24/7 established Cosmic Consciousness, reversible ? Emphatically no!! When I first began experiencing 24/7 witnessing, silence, or whatever you want to call it, I did not treat it tenderly - I did everything I could to destroy it within myself. Wasn't possible. Just keeps getting stronger. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Ok, I'm back - No, you don't need 24/7 CC, to have a UC experience - as a correlation, I had many, many GC experiences in waking state. To be *established* in UC, though, is a whole 'nother issue. First off, with MMY's techniques, the SOCs of CC-GC-UC, are not really stable states of consciousness, merely states of awareness, on the way to exiting from the spiritual game altogether. So, being established in UC is a misnomer. If you look at the definitions of CC, GC, and even UC, they are all in terms of the Self; ripening, like an avocado. Even when the Self recognizes Oneness, in UC, it remains in the domain of the Self, the Infinite Personal. The goal is the practical dissolution, or full integration, of any relative state of awareness. That way, they are all available, though we don't identify with any of them. Hope that helps! Not really :-) Let's try to make this clearer, one step at the time: I think we agree that there is some state we can call Cosmic Consciousness and that when this state eventually becomes permanent it gives rise to other states. AND that experiences of all states of consciousness can appear anytime even without any sort of permanency of any other state. So far I think we all agree. Anyone can have experiences of UC, the majority on this board probably had some such experiences, but let's stick to CC for a moment. My question was; in your opinion, is CC 24/7 established Cosmic Consciousness, reversible ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Northwest Humor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Sorry, but I neglected to mention that IFC had a sample episode of the new season of Portlandia on last night. So check the schedule for repeats or OnDemand (might want to check the IFC website too). I know we have some Portlandia fans here. It was, of course, very hilarious. I saved the episode rather than deleting it from the DVR because I have friends visiting this week who love crazy comedy and will especially enjoy something from the NW (they're from Seattle). The new season begins January 4th. Just watched a few on the segments on the IFC website. Funny as usual.
