[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Can#39;t share this enough
svastika - su (well) + asti (it is) -ka (-er) ??? (well-itis-ser) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The Swastika was a Hindu (now a Vedic Science symbol according to MMY and the new age gurus) representation of the spinning force of Prana, (Gods cosmic power, according to C. lutes) or evolution, unfortunately, (or fortunately), Hitler got it wrong, (ie. backwards). ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy.: True. On a related topic, I do wonder if the swastika can ever be rehabilitated. It has a long history across the world, in many different traditions. In Hinduism, the swastika maybe signifies Ganesha? To let the sign be completely absorbed into Nazi iconography is to give up on a powerful symbol. Maybe one day . . . ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy. The term Nazism is a contraction of Nationalsocialismus, the Nazi Party. Modern organizations whose ideology is similar to that of the Nazis incorporate the phrase into their titles to make what they stand for explicit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism No matter what you mean by national socialism, folks are going to instinctively recoil from it because of the horrific echoes it evokes (the way a German audience recoiled from Raja Emanuel's use of the term Invincible Germany, but in this case worldwide). It really can't be sanitized. Maybe in a hundred years when memories have faded, it'll be usable again, but you're asking for trouble if you use it now. Buck wrote: Yea, a kind of TM national socialism something like with larger human values that care about neighbors and neighborhood. From the neighborhood up a national socialism that Cares about the poor, the disabled, those in need by bringing meditation to everyone in every home to the benefit of everyone.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: In my experience this is really good market analysis. I think you guys really care. -Buck Careful, Buck. You *know* what happens to those who dare to disagree with Ms. Authority, especially if she's gone on record as saying that the analyses you think are good are bad, and STOOOPID. Keep this up and you'll become FFL's next stalking victim. :-) But yeah, I think the analysis is spot-on. The TMO's whole marketing strategy is based on a cultist self-importance fantasy -- that the world is filled with people who just can't wait to become Just Like Them. All those unhappy people out there in the world want nothing more than to evolve to the level in which they spend four hours a day sitting and grunting and bouncing around on slabs of foam in a big room full of other people Just Like Them. Having paid several thousand dollars for the privilege. Yeah, right. :-) That's a cult fantasy. The world is full of people who *might* be in the market for a simple technique that could improve their lives, and allow them to enjoy them more and be more productive in them. They are *not* in the market for a technique that *eats* their lives and renders them centered on traveling across town like the Eloi marching to the domes of the Morlocks in The Time Machine twice a day so they can sit and grunt and bounce and sleep together. And by sleep together I mean use the flying time to fall asleep, not sleep together in the sense of gettin' it on with your cult buddies. There *might* be a market for that; there isn't one for convincing people to spend thousands of their hard-earned dollars to become a classic cultist. You know my position. I don't think the TMO has a ghost of a chance of being able to bring more people to meditation any more, because it drags along behind it the stinking corpse of its own bad history and bad reputation. It's like a parade of losers -- in the front is da King, followed by a bunch of Raja-dweebs in their robes and crowns, followed at a discrete, well-mannered, and above all *appropriate* distance by their own wives, the Rajinis, who after all are not evolved enough to walk beside their husbands. Then come the non- Raja-dweebs like Bevan (a towering zeppelin of good health), Hagelin (once considered a scientist and now considered a crackpot), and David Lynch (accurately considered some- thing of a pervert and the essence of gullibility itself). Then come all the hangers-on still clinging to the ideas of self- importance they were brainwashed with by Maharishi, all chanting, Come to the domes. Join us. Yeah, right. That's gonna happen. John Q. Public is going to look at these nutjobs and think, Wow...I want to be just like them. Honey, sell the cars...we're going to need the money to pay for our TM-Sidhis courses, so we can go join in the Cosmic Buttbouncing with these other paragons of enlightenment. Twenty minutes twice a day. No change to your lifestyle or your beliefs required. You practice TM not for the time spent in meditation but because of how it enables you to spend your time *not* in meditation more fruitful and productive. That's the way that TM *used* to be marketed. Look at the parade of clowns trying to persuade people to become Just Like Them and *give up their lives* in favor of four or more hours a day of mass butt-bouncing. Kinda makes you think that the original TM marketing phrases from the 60s were a lie, doesn't it? For the clown parade, TM became a gateway drug to life as a cultist, not to a better and more productive life by the standards that most people would use to measure one. And now they're like drug pushers on a school playground (literally) trying to entice young, naive students to try TM. Try it... you'll like it. If you take advantage of the DLF special price, the first one's free. I think that most people are going to perceive this market- ing approach as what it is -- a fraud, perpetrated by cultists whose numbers are dwindling and dying off, and who are becoming increasingly desperate to swell their ranks with new suckers, just like them. Not gonna work. Not gonna happen. turq, I'm encouraged by these Gallup findings and I'm sure a lot of long term TMers would be also. The ones I know are practical, intelligent and compassionate. Also I bet a lot of people would love to know about and do something for world peace. Maybe whirled peas too (-: My point is that the marketing approach of the TMO is that of cultists, while pitching their product to non-cultists. Many (including some of this forum) seem to equate TMers with TM-Sidhas practicing in a group. They seem to believe that the leap from 20 minutes twice a day and an average of four hours per day (including travel time) is No Biggie, and that everyone that wants to learn TM wants to learn to butt-bounce and spend that much time away from their real life, too. I'm merely pointing out that this is an assumption
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Can#39;t share this enough
BTW, perhaps Hitler's possible Jewish genes (great-grandfather??) made him read the Swastika from right to left? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The Swastika was a Hindu (now a Vedic Science symbol according to MMY and the new age gurus) representation of the spinning force of Prana, (Gods cosmic power, according to C. lutes) or evolution, unfortunately, (or fortunately), Hitler got it wrong, (ie. backwards). ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy.: True. On a related topic, I do wonder if the swastika can ever be rehabilitated. It has a long history across the world, in many different traditions. In Hinduism, the swastika maybe signifies Ganesha? To let the sign be completely absorbed into Nazi iconography is to give up on a powerful symbol. Maybe one day . . . ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy. The term Nazism is a contraction of Nationalsocialismus, the Nazi Party. Modern organizations whose ideology is similar to that of the Nazis incorporate the phrase into their titles to make what they stand for explicit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism No matter what you mean by national socialism, folks are going to instinctively recoil from it because of the horrific echoes it evokes (the way a German audience recoiled from Raja Emanuel's use of the term Invincible Germany, but in this case worldwide). It really can't be sanitized. Maybe in a hundred years when memories have faded, it'll be usable again, but you're asking for trouble if you use it now. Buck wrote: Yea, a kind of TM national socialism something like with larger human values that care about neighbors and neighborhood. From the neighborhood up a national socialism that Cares about the poor, the disabled, those in need by bringing meditation to everyone in every home to the benefit of everyone.
[FairfieldLife] The Fiction Of Memory
Trust your memories? You shouldn't. That's the message of this wonderful TED talk, *well* worth the 18 minutes. Memory isn't static, like a recording device. It's more like Wikipedia, and can be edited, both by yourself and by other people. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tedtalks/mystery-of-memory_b_4159290.html\ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tedtalks/mystery-of-memory_b_4159290.html\ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tedtalks/mystery-of-memory_b_4159290.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tedtalks/mystery-of-memory_b_4159290.html\
RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where Are The Boomers Headed?
Emily, those are both pretty funny. Actually swim with dolphins is what first popped into my head. Probably on the east coast ha ha. Hmmm, wonder what fried Godzilla would taste like, organic of course... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I thought maybe that it might include: 1) Stop Eating Food or 2) Get Enlightened. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Emily, Bucket List, not for sharing on social media IMO! On Friday, October 25, 2013 2:24 PM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote: What is on your bucket list, Share? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: turq, I'm light all right. Gave up eating salmon, for one thing! On Friday, October 25, 2013 12:57 PM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Anyone who doesn't think that the whole planet is being adversely affected by radiation from Fukushima are IMO in denial. Better to face it without fear and figure out how to handle it. Lighten up, Share. It's not as if radiation creates awful monsters or anything. And even if it does, how bad can they be if they have the word 'God' in their name? http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Godzilla_8b8f1e_509655.jpg http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Godzilla_8b8f1e_509655.jpg
[FairfieldLife] RE: The curse of #39;Draculaquot;......
So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The *blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and death (Samsara or eternal damnation to reincarnation because of desire) until the *demon* of desire is quelled and the peace of soul realization is gained through meditation and God realization. ( Hey, a little Halloween here, enjoy!)
[FairfieldLife] The Fiction Of Memory, Dollhouse Edition
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: Trust your memories? You shouldn't. That's the message of this wonderful TED talk, *well* worth the 18 minutes. Memory isn't static, like a recording device. It's more like Wikipedia, and can be edited, both by yourself and by other people. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tedtalks/mystery-of-memory_b_4159290.htm http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tedtalks/mystery-of-memory_b_4159290.html\ One of the reasons I liked this TED talk is the synchronicity and timing of me stumbling upon it. I discovered it just after starting to re-watch an old favorite TV series, which is *all about* memory, the control and editing of it, identity, and self-identity. I started re-watching it partly out of a sense of withdrawal. After Breaking Bad went off the air, I've been trying to find a current series that has that same level of brilliance to watch, and failing. So I decided to go back and re-watch a series that I loved at the time, and loved so much that I've seen it numerous times. This will be my fourth re-watching of the entire series, all 26 hours of it. Consider this post a shameless commercial for the series, if you've never seen it. If you haven't, I think you've missed out on one of the best science fiction TV series ever made. 'Way up there in the Top Five, even ahead of its brother series Firefly. The series, of course, is Dollhouse. And as I re-watch it I no longer long for more episodes of Breaking Bad. The old ones will still be there on the shelf, ready to re-watch and re-enjoy a second time, or a third, or a fourth. A good movie or a good TV series is like a fine whiskey or tequila that ages well, and develops more character over time. You see it again and discover that your memories of it and how good it was were *not* implanted, and that it's not only as good as the first time you saw it, it's better. Dollhouse deals with weighty issues, remarkably similar issues to the ones that Elizabeth Loftus ended her talk discussing: Memory, self-identity, and how those are fragile things.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience
I thank you for your ongoing interest in the welfare of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement, -Buck .Careful, Buck. You *know* what happens to those who dare to disagree with Ms. Authority, Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience
methinks the laddy doth protest too much! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 3:09 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: In my experience this is really good market analysis. I think you guys really care. -Buck Careful, Buck. You *know* what happens to those who dare to disagree with Ms. Authority, especially if she's gone on record as saying that the analyses you think are good are bad, and STOOOPID. Keep this up and you'll become FFL's next stalking victim. :-) But yeah, I think the analysis is spot-on. The TMO's whole marketing strategy is based on a cultist self-importance fantasy -- that the world is filled with people who just can't wait to become Just Like Them. All those unhappy people out there in the world want nothing more than to evolve to the level in which they spend four hours a day sitting and grunting and bouncing around on slabs of foam in a big room full of other people Just Like Them. Having paid several thousand dollars for the privilege. Yeah, right. :-) That's a cult fantasy. The world is full of people who *might* be in the market for a simple technique that could improve their lives, and allow them to enjoy them more and be more productive in them. They are *not* in the market for a technique that *eats* their lives and renders them centered on traveling across town like the Eloi marching to the domes of the Morlocks in The Time Machine twice a day so they can sit and grunt and bounce and sleep together. And by sleep together I mean use the flying time to fall asleep, not sleep together in the sense of gettin' it on with your cult buddies. There *might* be a market for that; there isn't one for convincing people to spend thousands of their hard-earned dollars to become a classic cultist. You know my position. I don't think the TMO has a ghost of a chance of being able to bring more people to meditation any more, because it drags along behind it the stinking corpse of its own bad history and bad reputation. It's like a parade of losers -- in the front is da King, followed by a bunch of Raja-dweebs in their robes and crowns, followed at a discrete, well-mannered, and above all *appropriate* distance by their own wives, the Rajinis, who after all are not evolved enough to walk beside their husbands. Then come the non- Raja-dweebs like Bevan (a towering zeppelin of good health), Hagelin (once considered a scientist and now considered a crackpot), and David Lynch (accurately considered some- thing of a pervert and the essence of gullibility itself). Then come all the hangers-on still clinging to the ideas of self- importance they were brainwashed with by Maharishi, all chanting, Come to the domes. Join us. Yeah, right. That's gonna happen. John Q. Public is going to look at these nutjobs and think, Wow...I want to be just like them. Honey, sell the cars...we're going to need the money to pay for our TM-Sidhis courses, so we can go join in the Cosmic Buttbouncing with these other paragons of enlightenment. Twenty minutes twice a day. No change to your lifestyle or your beliefs required. You practice TM not for the time spent in meditation but because of how it enables you to spend your time *not* in meditation more fruitful and productive. That's the way that TM *used* to be marketed. Look at the parade of clowns trying to persuade people to become Just Like Them and *give up their lives* in favor of four or more hours a day of mass butt-bouncing. Kinda makes you think that the original TM marketing phrases from the 60s were a lie, doesn't it? For the clown parade, TM became a gateway drug to life as a cultist, not to a better and more productive life by the standards that most people would use to measure one. And now they're like drug pushers on a school playground (literally) trying to entice young, naive students to try TM. Try it... you'll like it. If you take advantage of the DLF special price, the first one's free. I think that most people are going to perceive this market- ing approach as what it is -- a fraud, perpetrated by cultists whose numbers are dwindling and dying off, and who are becoming increasingly desperate to swell their ranks with new suckers, just like them. Not gonna work. Not gonna happen. turq, I'm encouraged by these Gallup findings and I'm sure a lot of long term TMers would be also. The ones I know are practical, intelligent and compassionate. Also I bet a lot of people would love to know about and do something for world peace. Maybe whirled peas too (-: My point is that the marketing approach of the TMO is that of cultists, while pitching their product to non-cultists. Many (including some of this forum) seem to equate TMers with TM-Sidhas practicing in a group. They seem to believe that the leap from 20 minutes twice a day and an average of four hours per day (including travel time) is No Biggie, and that everyone that wants to learn TM wants to learn to
[FairfieldLife] Gettin' off on the wheel
I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA
[FairfieldLife] RE: Gettin#39; off on the wheel
Om, had she performed that in the other hemisphere would she have spun in a clockwise direction for 4:59 minutes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience
(grin) I thank you for your ongoing interest in the welfare of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement, -Buck .Careful, Buck. You *know* what happens to those who dare to disagree with Ms. Authority, Just sayin'...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gettin' off on the wheel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA OMG, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Gettin#39; off on the wheel
Great way to start the morning! Thanks for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA OMG, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience
Now how can Big Bopper Bevan not be a raja? Hell, he's the damn prime minister of the global country of hucksterism, he wears the frock and the tiara, how can he not be a raja? On Sat, 10/26/13, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 26, 2013, 8:09 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: In my experience this is really good market analysis. I think you guys really care. -Buck Careful, Buck. You *know* what happens to those who dare to disagree with Ms. Authority, especially if she's gone on record as saying that the analyses you think are good are bad, and STOOOPID. Keep this up and you'll become FFL's next stalking victim. :-) But yeah, I think the analysis is spot-on. The TMO's whole marketing strategy is based on a cultist self-importance fantasy -- that the world is filled with people who just can't wait to become Just Like Them. All those unhappy people out there in the world want nothing more than to evolve to the level in which they spend four hours a day sitting and grunting and bouncing around on slabs of foam in a big room full of other people Just Like Them. Having paid several thousand dollars for the privilege. Yeah, right. :-) That's a cult fantasy. The world is full of people who *might* be in the market for a simple technique that could improve their lives, and allow them to enjoy them more and be more productive in them. They are *not* in the market for a technique that *eats* their lives and renders them centered on traveling across town like the Eloi marching to the domes of the Morlocks in The Time Machine twice a day so they can sit and grunt and bounce and sleep together. And by sleep together I mean use the flying time to fall asleep, not sleep together in the sense of gettin' it on with your cult buddies. There *might* be a market for that; there isn't one for convincing people to spend thousands of their hard-earned dollars to become a classic cultist. You know my position. I don't think the TMO has a ghost of a chance of being able to bring more people to meditation any more, because it drags along behind it the stinking corpse of its own bad history and bad reputation. It's like a parade of losers -- in the front is da King, followed by a bunch of Raja-dweebs in their robes and crowns, followed at a discrete, well-mannered, and above all *appropriate* distance by their own wives, the Rajinis, who after all are not evolved enough to walk beside their husbands. Then come the non- Raja-dweebs like Bevan (a towering zeppelin of good health), Hagelin (once considered a scientist and now considered a crackpot), and David Lynch (accurately considered some- thing of a pervert and the essence of gullibility itself). Then come all the hangers-on still clinging to the ideas of self- importance they were brainwashed with by Maharishi, all chanting, Come to the domes. Join us. Yeah, right. That's gonna happen. John Q. Public is going to look at these nutjobs and think, Wow...I want to be just like them. Honey, sell the cars...we're going to need the money to pay for our TM-Sidhis courses, so we can go join in the Cosmic Buttbouncing with these other paragons of enlightenment. Twenty minutes twice a day. No change to your lifestyle or your beliefs required. You practice TM not for the time spent in meditation but because of how it enables you to spend your time *not* in meditation more fruitful and productive. That's the way that TM *used* to be marketed. Look at the parade of clowns trying to persuade people to become Just Like Them and *give up their lives* in favor of four or more hours a day of mass butt-bouncing. Kinda makes you think that the original TM marketing phrases from the 60s were a lie, doesn't it? For the clown parade, TM became a gateway drug to life as a cultist, not to a better and more productive life by the standards that most people would use to measure one. And now they're like drug pushers on a school playground (literally) trying to entice young, naive students to try TM. Try it... you'll like it. If you take advantage of the DLF special price, the first one's free. I think that most people are going to perceive this market- ing approach as what it is -- a fraud, perpetrated by cultists whose numbers are dwindling and dying off, and who are becoming increasingly desperate to swell their ranks with new suckers, just like them. Not gonna work. Not gonna happen. turq, I'm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gettin' off on the wheel
So, you got mixed up again - getting off the wheel of endless transmigration means that you no longer have to be reincarnated as a soul-monad. It's not for those like yourself that are already liberated - it's for those millions of people that are suffering every day from pain, lamentation and grief, disease and old age. Just because you're living in heaven on earth now doesn't mean you can't have some compassion for others that are suffering. While you continue to see life through rose-colored glasses that doesn't prove that others are not suffering. Apparently you got so mixed up in the material world that you forgot all about the spiritual path and why you first became a Buddhist. Go figure. On 10/26/2013 7:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA OMG, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Collected Papers
that's one interpretation - another is he was interested in the RETURNS, monetary returns he would get on putting out his message On Sat, 10/26/13, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Collected Papers To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, October 26, 2013, 2:43 AM Dear; Enclosed is a copy of “The Collected Papers” of scientific research on Transcendental Meditation [TM] that I wish to gift to the archive on communties at The University of .. The “The Collected Papers” was a strategic project undertaken by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the 1970's. This was a collaborative project which Maharishi closely wrote and edited. The two essays in the beginning, one under his name and the other under Larry Domash's name were both created and edited closely by Maharishi. On this and with so many other publication projects Maharishi often would actively work with intellectuals of the TM movement writing and editing text material and the presentation of the publication. For future scholars coming along and who would be looking in on the subject of Transcendental Meditation this book “The Collected Papers” is extremely important as a landmark in the work done by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and the Transcendental Meditation community in the second half of the 20th Century. The Forward and the Introduction to “The Collected Papers” are worth reading for the insight of context they were intended to give to the work of the book. There are still people around who handled the inner workings around this particular book. One person who was like an aide-de-camp to Maharishi in Europe at the time of the publication and the release of “The Collected Papers” recently offered some comments about how Maharishi worked on these projects. His name is Rick Archer and he lives presently in Fairfield, Iowa. His comment re-enforces that Maharishi worked closely on projects like these with great interest. Often laboring hours over text and presentation with people. That Maharishi was keenly interested in the whole presentation. At that time the TM movement owned several Heidelberg color presses that were kept busy publishing TM movement publications. If it was a poster being printed, Rick Archer commented that Maharishi then always wanted to see the last proof before a press would run on a project. If he made further editings at that point it would go all the way back to the steps of pre-production. Right to the end of his life Maharishi was interested in message. Hence I wanted to first call your attention to this particular publication with its forward, introduction and then of course the weight of the material in the text of the printed book. With Best Regards,
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Can#39;t share this enough
BillyG wrote: The Swastika was a Hindu (now a Vedic Science symbol according to MMY and the new age gurus) representation of the spinning force of Prana, (Gods cosmic power, according to C. lutes) or evolution, The swastika was just about ubiquitous among ancient cultures, actually, not just Hindu/Vedic. unfortunately, (or fortunately), Hitler got it wrong, (ie. backwards). No, he didn't. That's a popular myth. The pre-Hitler swastika was usually reversible; it went either way. (Ironically, where the two directions were differentiated and assigned positive vs. negative meanings, the one Hitler used had the positive meaning.) ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy.: True. On a related topic, I do wonder if the swastika can ever be rehabilitated. It has a long history across the world, in many different traditions. In Hinduism, the swastika maybe signifies Ganesha? To let the sign be completely absorbed into Nazi iconography is to give up on a powerful symbol. Maybe one day . . . ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy. The term Nazism is a contraction of Nationalsocialismus, the Nazi Party. Modern organizations whose ideology is similar to that of the Nazis incorporate the phrase into their titles to make what they stand for explicit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism No matter what you mean by national socialism, folks are going to instinctively recoil from it because of the horrific echoes it evokes (the way a German audience recoiled from Raja Emanuel's use of the term Invincible Germany, but in this case worldwide). It really can't be sanitized. Maybe in a hundred years when memories have faded, it'll be usable again, but you're asking for trouble if you use it now. Buck wrote: Yea, a kind of TM national socialism something like with larger human values that care about neighbors and neighborhood. From the neighborhood up a national socialism that Cares about the poor, the disabled, those in need by bringing meditation to everyone in every home to the benefit of everyone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience
You've got to remember, Buck, if Judy is for it - then Barry is against it. It's that simple. On 10/26/2013 6:20 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: * * *I thank you for your ongoing interest in the welfare of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement,* *-Buck * .Careful, Buck. You *know* what happens to those who dare to disagree with Ms. Authority, Just sayin'...
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience
Buck has agreed with me about a couple of things recently, and it's freaking Barry out. Richard wrote: You've got to remember, Buck, if Judy is for it - then Barry is against it. It's that simple. On 10/26/2013 6:20 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: I thank you for your ongoing interest in the welfare of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement, -Buck .Careful, Buck. You *know* what happens to those who dare to disagree with Ms. Authority, Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience
MMY and the TMO can't compare to all your life accomplishments, Barry. LoL! Let's see, you've spent the major part of your adult life in cults and given thousands of dollars to at least two cults we know of. And, what have you got to show for it? A job that sucks in a town that sucks making a few dollars so you can buy coffee at a Paris cafe and write comments to post to spiritual groups on the internet. Very impressive! Did I leave anything out? LoL! On 10/26/2013 3:09 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: In my experience this is really good market analysis. I think you guys really care. -Buck Careful, Buck. You *know* what happens to those who dare to disagree with Ms. Authority, especially if she's gone on record as saying that the analyses you think are good are bad, and STOOOPID. Keep this up and you'll become FFL's next stalking victim. :-) But yeah, I think the analysis is spot-on. The TMO's whole marketing strategy is based on a cultist self-importance fantasy -- that the world is filled with people who just can't wait to become Just Like Them. All those unhappy people out there in the world want nothing more than to evolve to the level in which they spend four hours a day sitting and grunting and bouncing around on slabs of foam in a big room full of other people Just Like Them. Having paid several thousand dollars for the privilege. Yeah, right. :-) That's a cult fantasy. The world is full of people who *might* be in the market for a simple technique that could improve their lives, and allow them to enjoy them more and be more productive in them. They are *not* in the market for a technique that *eats* their lives and renders them centered on traveling across town like the Eloi marching to the domes of the Morlocks in The Time Machine twice a day so they can sit and grunt and bounce and sleep together. And by sleep together I mean use the flying time to fall asleep, not sleep together in the sense of gettin' it on with your cult buddies. There *might* be a market for that; there isn't one for convincing people to spend thousands of their hard-earned dollars to become a classic cultist. You know my position. I don't think the TMO has a ghost of a chance of being able to bring more people to meditation any more, because it drags along behind it the stinking corpse of its own bad history and bad reputation. It's like a parade of losers -- in the front is da King, followed by a bunch of Raja-dweebs in their robes and crowns, followed at a discrete, well-mannered, and above all *appropriate* distance by their own wives, the Rajinis, who after all are not evolved enough to walk beside their husbands. Then come the non- Raja-dweebs like Bevan (a towering zeppelin of good health), Hagelin (once considered a scientist and now considered a crackpot), and David Lynch (accurately considered some- thing of a pervert and the essence of gullibility itself). Then come all the hangers-on still clinging to the ideas of self- importance they were brainwashed with by Maharishi, all chanting, Come to the domes. Join us. Yeah, right. That's gonna happen. John Q. Public is going to look at these nutjobs and think, Wow...I want to be just like them. Honey, sell the cars...we're going to need the money to pay for our TM-Sidhis courses, so we can go join in the Cosmic Buttbouncing with these other paragons of enlightenment. Twenty minutes twice a day. No change to your lifestyle or your beliefs required. You practice TM not for the time spent in meditation but because of how it enables you to spend your time *not* in meditation more fruitful and productive. That's the way that TM *used* to be marketed. Look at the parade of clowns trying to persuade people to become Just Like Them and *give up their lives* in favor of four or more hours a day of mass butt-bouncing. Kinda makes you think that the original TM marketing phrases from the 60s were a lie, doesn't it? For the clown parade, TM became a gateway drug to life as a cultist, not to a better and more productive life by the standards that most people would use to measure one. And now they're like drug pushers on a school playground (literally) trying to entice young, naive students to try TM. Try it... you'll like it. If you take advantage of the DLF special price, the first one's free. I think that most people are going to perceive this market- ing approach as what it is -- a fraud, perpetrated by cultists whose numbers are dwindling and dying off, and who are becoming increasingly desperate to swell their ranks with new suckers, just like them. Not gonna work. Not gonna happen. turq, I'm encouraged by these Gallup findings and I'm sure a lot of long term TMers would be also. The ones I know are practical, intelligent and compassionate. Also I bet a lot of people would love to know about and do something for world peace. Maybe whirled peas too (-: My point is that the marketing approach of the TMO is
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience
It looks like Barry's spiritual pursuit has morphed into nothing more than a 'get Judy' practice. Maybe this posting to FFL is the only spiritual endeavor Barry still performs - if so, he is very dedicated seeker of ways to disagree with you. When you stoop as low as Barry to insult other seekers, you can see how empty a life can be for a guy like that immersed in the material world. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to, but most people do evolve intellectually over time for the better, not devolve down to mere sophistry. Go figure. From: Uncle Tantra Subject: Re: The Disappearing Of Aran A. Mous Newsgroups: alt.dreams.castaneda Date: 2003-03-12 17:00:34 PST I'm a Buddhist. On 10/26/2013 7:44 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Buck has agreed with me about a couple of things recently, and it's freaking Barry out.* * Richard wrote: * You've got to remember, Buck, if Judy is for it - then Barry is against it. It's that simple. On 10/26/2013 6:20 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: * * *I thank you for your ongoing interest in the welfare of the Spiritual Regeneration Movement,* *-Buck * .Careful, Buck. You *know* what happens to those who dare to disagree with Ms. Authority, Just sayin'...
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Where Are The Boomers Headed?
You just don't seem able to get it. People are loss-averse. That means people worry more about losing what they have, instead of worrying about some crack brain future savings theory like single payer. I can tell you've never been in a union. Go figure. What made single payer impossible is the fact that tens of millions of voters have employer-sponsored insurance that they basically like, and they would freak out if you told them it was being replaced by a government-run national health-care program. 'The ObamaCare Fiasco Isn’t A Single-Payer Conspiracy' http://www.bloomberg.com/news/ http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-24/obamacare-fiasco-isn-t-a-single-payer-conspiracy.html On 10/25/2013 8:22 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Would you care for some tuna then? On 10/25/2013 06:08 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Bhairitu wrote:* Of course the corporate press (Bloomberg News) is going to say that! Born yesterday? :-D *Gone blind? I listed several others (including Scientific American) and noted that there were many more (and not just from the corporate press).* * * *The thing is, Bhairitu, the more experts' opinions on this that you read, the more you have to expand your conspiracy to account for the fact that so many of them agree. And the more you have to extend credibility to nonexperts, such as the right-wing former lawyer and evangelical Christian novelist who wrote the post poor Share puts so much stock in, and whose knowledgeable readers tore to shreds (see my other post with the negative comments--you won't read it, because, like Share, you much prefer to wallow in bad news, whether the news holds up to examination or not).* * * *It isn't that there's a perfect consensus by any means. But there is very strong disagreement among qualified scientists about how much radiation is dangerous to human health. And there's a /tremendous/ amount of ignorance among laypeople about what constitutes a significant rise in radioactivity. I'm just as ignorant as most laypeople, but at least I have the smarts to know I'm ignorant and to seek other opinions.* * * *For instance, from the comments from the blog in my other post on one of the 28 signs:* ...The researchers looked at the isotopes found in the bluefin tuna and found that the 'naturally occurring' isotopes were present in amounts that were orders of magnitude larger than the amounts traceable to the Fukushima accident. IOW, either the study didn't say what the blogger thought it said, or he knew it didn't say what he wanted /readers/ to think it said. And that isn't even an /opinion/, it's a scientific fact. The commenters picked up on a whole bunch of these misleading (or deliberately false) conclusions. Did it even occur to Share to /wonder/ whether there might be any reason to question them? It did not. And it wouldn't to you either. On 10/25/2013 02:21 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Absolutely hilarious, from one perspective. From another, sad and pathetic, to spend one's precious time and energy ignorantly worrying about wildly exaggerated threats to the whole planet when there are so many real threats to its welfare to which not enough attention is being paid. Share wrote: Anyone who doesn't think that the whole planet is being adversely affected by radiation from Fukushima are IMO in denial. Better to face it without fear and figure out how to handle it. Better to stop denying one's ignorance, and figure out how to handle that. Here's a start, from an article in Bloomberg News. (Share won't read any of this, because she doesn't want to have to give up her Prophet of Doom role; it makes her feel, you know, Important.) -- Radiation Threat And what of the lasting threat from radiation? Remarkably, outside the immediate area of Fukushima, this is hardly a problem at all. Although the crippled nuclear reactors themselves still pose a danger, no one, including personnel who worked in the buildings, died from radiation exposure. Most experts agree that future health risks from the released radiation, notably radioactive iodine-131 and cesiums-134 and - 137, are extremely small and likely to be undetectable. Even considering the upper boundary of estimated effects, there is unlikely to be any detectable increase in cancers in Japan, Asia or the world except close to the facility, according to a World Health Organization report. There will almost certainly be no increase in birth defects or genetic abnormalities from radiation. Even in the most contaminated areas, any increase in cancer risk will be small. For example, a male exposed at age 1 has his lifetime cancer risk increase from 43 percent to 44 percent. Those exposed at 10 or 20 face even smaller increases in risk -- similar to what comes from having a whole-body computer tomography scan or living for 12 to 25 years in Denver amid background radiation in the Rocky
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles
Before you criticize others, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be 5,280 feet away from them and they'll be barefooted. On 10/25/2013 5:58 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: * To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: While it is true that the early bird gets the worm, it's the second mouse that gets the cheese.
[FairfieldLife] Rue de l'Esperance
That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel. That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little things. But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing cafe, is HOPE. OK, here goes. Hope. I still have it, in spades. Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be* hopeful. It's really not such a bad place. Get over it, if you believe it is. This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become. When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless. It's like the ending to Woody Allen's The Purple Rose Of Cairo. Cecilia (Mia Farrow) has had a bad day. She's on the street, homeless after telling her abusive husband to fuck off, and finding out that the other man she'd fallen in love with is fictional. She has nowhere to stay, and nowhere to go, and has very little money in her pockets. But she finds herself standing in front of a movie theater, and spends one of her last coins to go in and watch the movie. And up on the screen is Fred Astaire. And suddenly there is hope. Because no world that has Fred Astaire in it could possibly be hopeless.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Can#39;t share this enough
According to what I've read, the word 'swastika' does not occur in Vedic Sanskrit. Some of the early examples of the swastika originated in the Indus Valley around 2400 BCE and in south-eastern paleolithic Europe over 10,000 years ago. On 10/25/2013 9:45 PM, wgm4u wrote: The Swastika was a Hindu (now a Vedic Science symbol according to MMY and the new age gurus) representation of the spinning force of Prana, (Gods cosmic power, according to C. lutes) or evolution, unfortunately, (or fortunately), Hitler got it wrong, (ie. backwards). ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy.: True. On a related topic, I do wonder if the swastika can ever be rehabilitated. It has a long history across the world, in many different traditions. In Hinduism, the swastika maybe signifies Ganesha? To let the sign be completely absorbed into Nazi iconography is to give up on a powerful symbol. Maybe one day . . . ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy. The term Nazism is a contraction of Nationalsocialismus, the Nazi Party. Modern organizations whose ideology is similar to that of the Nazis incorporate the phrase into their titles to make what they stand for explicit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism No matter what you mean by national socialism, folks are going to instinctively recoil from it because of the horrific echoes it evokes (the way a German audience recoiled from Raja Emanuel's use of the term Invincible Germany, but in this case worldwide). It really can't be sanitized. Maybe in a hundred years when memories have faded, it'll be usable again, but you're asking for trouble if you use it now. Buck wrote: * Yea, a kind of TM national socialism something like with larger human values * * that care about neighbors and neighborhood. From the neighborhood up a * * national socialism that Cares about the poor, the disabled, those in need by * * bringing meditation to everyone in every home to the benefit of everyone.* * *
[FairfieldLife] The Sun, the Vibration of Courage before Battle
Aditya Hrudayam http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=9CmUOLcJZBE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CmUOLcJZBE
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rue de l'Esperance
Hope - yeah, that's the ticket! A detailed depiction of a certain taboo male fantasy: the uninhibited poor American anti-social bachelor, alone and self-absorbed, wearing a goatee and a black T-shirt, typing into an iPhone - utterly free. That's our Uncle Tantra - full of hope that someone, anyone, will love him for what he is - a great and wise spiritual teacher. Go figure. There's_Gonna_Be_a_God_Damn_Riot_in_Here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2175989/ On 10/26/2013 8:27 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel. That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little things. But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing cafe, is HOPE. OK, here goes. Hope. I still have it, in spades. Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be* hopeful. It's really not such a bad place. Get over it, if you believe it is. This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become. When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless. It's like the ending to Woody Allen's The Purple Rose Of Cairo. Cecilia (Mia Farrow) has had a bad day. She's on the street, homeless after telling her abusive husband to fuck off, and finding out that the other man she'd fallen in love with is fictional. She has nowhere to stay, and nowhere to go, and has very little money in her pockets. But she finds herself standing in front of a movie theater, and spends one of her last coins to go in and watch the movie. And up on the screen is Fred Astaire. And suddenly there is hope. Because no world that has Fred Astaire in it could possibly be hopeless.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things You Should Never Do
At all costs, avoid involvement in cults - practice safe sects! On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Never, EVER, get into an argument with an idiot; people listening may not be able to tell the difference between you and them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rue de l'Esperance
I'm into gratitude these days. I just find one little thing to feel grateful for and then a whole bunch of other stuff pops into my mind. http://www.gratefulness.org/brotherdavid/a-good-day.htm I've even been grateful for gratitude (-: On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:11 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Hope - yeah, that's the ticket! A detailed depiction of a certain taboo male fantasy: the uninhibited poor American anti-social bachelor, alone and self-absorbed, wearing a goatee and a black T-shirt, typing into an iPhone - utterly free. That's our Uncle Tantra - full of hope that someone, anyone, will love him for what he is - a great and wise spiritual teacher. Go figure. There's_Gonna_Be_a_God_Damn_Riot_in_Here On 10/26/2013 8:27 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel. That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little things. But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing cafe, is HOPE. OK, here goes. Hope. I still have it, in spades. Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be* hopeful. It's really not such a bad place. Get over it, if you believe it is. This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become. When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless. It's like the ending to Woody Allen's The Purple Rose Of Cairo. Cecilia (Mia Farrow) has had a bad day. She's on the street, homeless after telling her abusive husband to fuck off, and finding out that the other man she'd fallen in love with is fictional. She has nowhere to stay, and nowhere to go, and has very little money in her pockets. But she finds herself standing in front of a movie theater, and spends one of her last coins to go in and watch the movie. And up on the screen is Fred Astaire. And suddenly there is hope. Because no world that has Fred Astaire in it could possibly be hopeless.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin#39; off on the wheel
Steve, not so fast! Tell us what's happening down St. Louis way. How's the family, the business, etc? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Great way to start the morning! Thanks for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA OMG, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where Are The Boomers Headed?
Emily, Happy Birthday coming up, if I remember correctly... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: What is on your bucket list, Share? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: turq, I'm light all right. Gave up eating salmon, for one thing! On Friday, October 25, 2013 12:57 PM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Anyone who doesn't think that the whole planet is being adversely affected by radiation from Fukushima are IMO in denial. Better to face it without fear and figure out how to handle it. Lighten up, Share. It's not as if radiation creates awful monsters or anything. And even if it does, how bad can they be if they have the word 'God' in their name? http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Godzilla_8b8f1e_509655.jpg http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Godzilla_8b8f1e_509655.jpg
[FairfieldLife] RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Barry wrote: (snip) Hope. I still have it, in spades. Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be* hopeful. You know, I'm hopeful too. I'm hopeful that one of these days it will occur to Barry to ask himself why, if he's so full of hope, on FFL he is so often deliberately hateful and dishonest. Just doesn't really seem to go with hope, you know? Sounds a lot more like someone taking a pose, trying very hard to convince us and himself that he's somebody he isn't, a better person than he actually is. I guess that must be what he's so hopeful about, huh?
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Rue de l#39;Esperance
Oh, jeez, another poseur... Yes, Share, what a wonderful person you are, so very highly evolved. We all believe that, really we do. We know you're just as honest as Barry is. Share wrote: I'm into gratitude these days. I just find one little thing to feel grateful for and then a whole bunch of other stuff pops into my mind. http://www.gratefulness.org/brotherdavid/a-good-day.htm http://www.gratefulness.org/brotherdavid/a-good-day.htm I've even been grateful for gratitude (-:
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Where Are The Boomers Headed?
On 10/26/2013 06:18 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: You just don't seem able to get it. People are loss-averse. That means people worry more about losing what they have, instead of worrying about some crack brain future savings theory like single payer. I can tell you've never been in a union. Go figure. Au contraire, Pierre. I was a member of the AFM: the American Federation of Musicians. It was run by a bunch of has been musicians who liked carrying a brief case instead of an instrument case. That union didn't adapt well with the times and is pretty much a has been in most of America. What made single payer impossible is the fact that tens of millions of voters have employer-sponsored insurance that they basically like, and they would freak out if you told them it was being replaced by a government-run national health-care program. And that they believe is free. When you are an employer and do your budgets for hiring, part of the expense of your employee is the health care. IOW, you could play the employee more without that benefit. It also tethers them to a company that some workers hate. With single payer that is taken out of the equation. You really liked being fleeced by insurance companies?
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The curse of #39;Draculaquot;......
I think there are good desires and bad desires, one leads to heaven the other hell but both keep one bound to the wheel of Samsara. Charlie used to say you can have iron chains or gold chains depending on your Karma, obviously we'd prefer gold chains. I was mainly talking about sinful desire like lust, greed and the like. B ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The *blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and death (Samsara or eternal damnation to reincarnation because of desire) until the *demon* of desire is quelled and the peace of soul realization is gained through meditation and God realization. ( Hey, a little Halloween here, enjoy!)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Richest Cities in America
Obviously a handful of tech billionaires skewing the results. I lived near a town that back in the 1950s had the highest income per capita. It was pretty much a blue collar town but millionaire wheat ranchers were skewing the numbers. On 10/25/2013 01:01 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: San Jose, CA tops the list. And Brownsville, TX is the poorest city in the country. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/america-richest-poorest-cities-165424993.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: The curse of #39;Draculaquot;......
Re during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake: Not so. The wine is for the priests alone. The congregation has to be satisfied with the bread. The official Church doctrine is that as *both* the bread and the wine are transformed into Christ's body and blood only the one need be taken. But as the priest partakes of both bread and wine the obvious implication is that he's getting a special privilege. As the blood clearly symbolises the inner life force the message taken away by everyone is that the priest is more spiritual than the lay members. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The *blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and death (Samsara or eternal damnation to reincarnation because of desire) until the *demon* of desire is quelled and the peace of soul realization is gained through meditation and God realization. ( Hey, a little Halloween here, enjoy!)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The curse of 'Dracula......
Ok, Seraphita, maybe it's just at wedding masses that both wafer and wine are given to the people. Or First communions and Confirmations. Maybe also holy days. I know I've been to a few masses where both were distributed. On Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:19 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake: Not so. The wine is for the priests alone. The congregation has to be satisfied with the bread. The official Church doctrine is that as *both* the bread and the wine are transformed into Christ's body and blood only the one need be taken. But as the priest partakes of both bread and wine the obvious implication is that he's getting a special privilege. As the blood clearly symbolises the inner life force the message taken away by everyone is that the priest is more spiritual than the lay members. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The *blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and death (Samsara or eternal damnation to reincarnation because of desire) until the *demon* of desire is quelled and the peace of soul realization is gained through meditation and God realization. ( Hey, a little Halloween here, enjoy!)
[FairfieldLife] RE: Can#39;t share this enough
My understanding is that the direction of the swastika spin is found in both forms in ancient reliefs. The idea that Hitler got it wrong is just propaganda - highly effective propaganda as so many people believe it. In most (probably all) European countries the display of swastikas is outlawed. I've got a swastika on a Sri Yantra disk and also on some old, pre-war hardback books (fiction titles); they have swastikas on the spine. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: According to what I've read, the word 'swastika' does not occur in Vedic Sanskrit. Some of the early examples of the swastika originated in the Indus Valley around 2400 BCE and in south-eastern paleolithic Europe over 10,000 years ago. On 10/25/2013 9:45 PM, wgm4u wrote: The Swastika was a Hindu (now a Vedic Science symbol according to MMY and the new age gurus) representation of the spinning force of Prana, (Gods cosmic power, according to C. lutes) or evolution, unfortunately, (or fortunately), Hitler got it wrong, (ie. backwards). ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: Re I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy.: True. On a related topic, I do wonder if the swastika can ever be rehabilitated. It has a long history across the world, in many different traditions. In Hinduism, the swastika maybe signifies Ganesha? To let the sign be completely absorbed into Nazi iconography is to give up on a powerful symbol. Maybe one day . . . ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy. The term Nazism is a contraction of Nationalsocialismus, the Nazi Party. Modern organizations whose ideology is similar to that of the Nazis incorporate the phrase into their titles to make what they stand for explicit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism No matter what you mean by national socialism, folks are going to instinctively recoil from it because of the horrific echoes it evokes (the way a German audience recoiled from Raja Emanuel's use of the term Invincible Germany, but in this case worldwide). It really can't be sanitized. Maybe in a hundred years when memories have faded, it'll be usable again, but you're asking for trouble if you use it now. Buck wrote: Yea, a kind of TM national socialism something like with larger human values that care about neighbors and neighborhood. From the neighborhood up a national socialism that Cares about the poor, the disabled, those in need by bringing meditation to everyone in every home to the benefit of everyone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The curse of 'Dracula......
wgm, but in a way, wouldn't gold chains be harder to let go of? Even in the Gita Maharishi talks about having to let go of attachment to sattwa. Anyway, I remember hearing something about the desire for enlightenment being used to sublimate all other desires. Eeeek! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:43 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think there are good desires and bad desires, one leads to heaven the other hell but both keep one bound to the wheel of Samsara. Charlie used to say you can have iron chains or gold chains depending on your Karma, obviously we'd prefer gold chains. I was mainly talking about sinful desire like lust, greed and the like. B ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The *blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and death (Samsara or eternal damnation to reincarnation because of desire) until the *demon* of desire is quelled and the peace of soul realization is gained through meditation and God realization. ( Hey, a little Halloween here, enjoy!)
[FairfieldLife] New Stealth Destroyer for the Navy
Its capabilities are impressive and highly technological. But is it necessary? http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Can#39;t share this enough
Premier League champions Manchester United say Swastika-style logo is completely inappropriate http://tinyurl.com/pw8mzz9 http://tinyurl.com/pw8mzz9 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: My understanding is that the direction of the swastika spin is found in both forms in ancient reliefs. The idea that Hitler got it wrong is just propaganda - highly effective propaganda as so many people believe it. In most (probably all) European countries the display of swastikas is outlawed. I've got a swastika on a Sri Yantra disk and also on some old, pre-war hardback books (fiction titles); they have swastikas on the spine. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: According to what I've read, the word 'swastika' does not occur in Vedic Sanskrit. Some of the early examples of the swastika originated in the Indus Valley around 2400 BCE and in south-eastern paleolithic Europe over 10,000 years ago. On 10/25/2013 9:45 PM, wgm4u wrote: The Swastika was a Hindu (now a Vedic Science symbol according to MMY and the new age gurus) representation of the spinning force of Prana, (Gods cosmic power, according to C. lutes) or evolution, unfortunately, (or fortunately), Hitler got it wrong, (ie. backwards). ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: Re I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy.: True. On a related topic, I do wonder if the swastika can ever be rehabilitated. It has a long history across the world, in many different traditions. In Hinduism, the swastika maybe signifies Ganesha? To let the sign be completely absorbed into Nazi iconography is to give up on a powerful symbol. Maybe one day . . . ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy. The term Nazism is a contraction of Nationalsocialismus, the Nazi Party. Modern organizations whose ideology is similar to that of the Nazis incorporate the phrase into their titles to make what they stand for explicit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism No matter what you mean by national socialism, folks are going to instinctively recoil from it because of the horrific echoes it evokes (the way a German audience recoiled from Raja Emanuel's use of the term Invincible Germany, but in this case worldwide). It really can't be sanitized. Maybe in a hundred years when memories have faded, it'll be usable again, but you're asking for trouble if you use it now. Buck wrote: Yea, a kind of TM national socialism something like with larger human values that care about neighbors and neighborhood. From the neighborhood up a national socialism that Cares about the poor, the disabled, those in need by bringing meditation to everyone in every home to the benefit of everyone.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Can#39;t share this enough
Premier League champions Manchester United say Swastika-style logo is completely inappropriate http://tinyurl.com/pw8mzz9 http://tinyurl.com/pw8mzz9 Doesn't look like a swastika to me - typical Twitter hysteria. Twitter is becoming ever more like mob rule. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Premier League champions Manchester United say Swastika-style logo is completely inappropriate http://tinyurl.com/pw8mzz9 http://tinyurl.com/pw8mzz9 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: My understanding is that the direction of the swastika spin is found in both forms in ancient reliefs. The idea that Hitler got it wrong is just propaganda - highly effective propaganda as so many people believe it. In most (probably all) European countries the display of swastikas is outlawed. I've got a swastika on a Sri Yantra disk and also on some old, pre-war hardback books (fiction titles); they have swastikas on the spine. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: According to what I've read, the word 'swastika' does not occur in Vedic Sanskrit. Some of the early examples of the swastika originated in the Indus Valley around 2400 BCE and in south-eastern paleolithic Europe over 10,000 years ago. On 10/25/2013 9:45 PM, wgm4u wrote: The Swastika was a Hindu (now a Vedic Science symbol according to MMY and the new age gurus) representation of the spinning force of Prana, (Gods cosmic power, according to C. lutes) or evolution, unfortunately, (or fortunately), Hitler got it wrong, (ie. backwards). ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote: Re I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy.: True. On a related topic, I do wonder if the swastika can ever be rehabilitated. It has a long history across the world, in many different traditions. In Hinduism, the swastika maybe signifies Ganesha? To let the sign be completely absorbed into Nazi iconography is to give up on a powerful symbol. Maybe one day . . . ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: I suggest you try to find another phrase than national socialism, because historically it's almost exclusively associated with fascism, anti-Semitism, and white supremacy. The term Nazism is a contraction of Nationalsocialismus, the Nazi Party. Modern organizations whose ideology is similar to that of the Nazis incorporate the phrase into their titles to make what they stand for explicit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism No matter what you mean by national socialism, folks are going to instinctively recoil from it because of the horrific echoes it evokes (the way a German audience recoiled from Raja Emanuel's use of the term Invincible Germany, but in this case worldwide). It really can't be sanitized. Maybe in a hundred years when memories have faded, it'll be usable again, but you're asking for trouble if you use it now. Buck wrote: Yea, a kind of TM national socialism something like with larger human values that care about neighbors and neighborhood. From the neighborhood up a national socialism that Cares about the poor, the disabled, those in need by bringing meditation to everyone in every home to the benefit of everyone.
[FairfieldLife] RE: New Stealth Destroyer for the Navy
How does the destroyer protect itself against a submarine strike? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Its capabilities are impressive and highly technological. But is it necessary? http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: New Stealth Destroyer for the Navy
Historically, there are several methods of protection against submarines. The latest ones are the guided weapons, as shown in this article below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: How does the destroyer protect itself against a submarine strike? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Its capabilities are impressive and highly technological. But is it necessary? http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin' off on the wheel
Hi. Well, to tell the truth, as I've often said, I don't watch much TV, but I got intrigued by all the buzz about Breaking Bad, and so I've been absorbed in watching all five seasons. In fact, I've watched all but the final episode which I intend to watch shortly. Other than that, it's pretty much been business as usual. Divvying up World Series tickets among customers and employees is always quite a task. The kids are going tonight, and I go tomorrow with a customer who is like the ultimate Red Sox fan, so that should be fun. Luckily for him, he is ex MP, so that may come in handy for him. Employee is taking another customer on Monday. Younger son took his ACT test a second time today. Trying to bring it up close to 30 from 25 on the first round. He felt pretty embarrassed by that low score, and so has been pretty self motivated the last couple weeks. On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:35 AM, sharelon...@yahoo.com sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve, not so fast! Tell us what's happening down St. Louis way. How's the family, the business, etc? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Great way to start the morning! Thanks for that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma. I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA OMG, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
[FairfieldLife] Halloween History
It means All Hallow's Evening. But wait there's more... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween
[FairfieldLife] RE: Richest Cities in America
The Silicon Valley industry is obviously the biggest contributor to the price creep of the salaries and home prices. Also, Larry Ellison lives in the area. So, he definitely skews the demographics. But how long can this high standard go on? The silicon based chips are reaching their upper limit. When the quantum computer is commercialized, the Silicon Valley may disappear. But will it evolve into the Quantum Valley? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: Obviously a handful of tech billionaires skewing the results. I lived near a town that back in the 1950s had the highest income per capita. It was pretty much a blue collar town but millionaire wheat ranchers were skewing the numbers. On 10/25/2013 01:01 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: San Jose, CA tops the list. And Brownsville, TX is the poorest city in the country. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/america-richest-poorest-cities-165424993.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/america-richest-poorest-cities-165424993.html
[FairfieldLife] TM Serves me well
That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful.
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM Serves me well
The Vedic Channel might be quite popular in a burgeoning streaming video market. You could, of course, charge more for it than Netflix because it is worth more. For content you can probably work a deal with the Bollywood producers of religious movies though you just might want to want to raid the local Indian grocery for cheap DVDs to rip because Bollywood doesn't seem to copyright many of their films. They just move on to the next cash cow production. On 10/26/2013 02:07 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The curse of #39;Draculaquot;......
One can read too much into an analogy :-) Desire and attachment go hand in hand, these powerful desires are the Sleeping Elephants MMY was talking about, they have to be dealt with, they reside deep in the subconscious mind and tie the consciousness to the body. They are spoken of in Christian ethics as the 7 cardinal sins; wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy and gluttony. In Yoga they are spoken of as the 'doshas' or faults of the ego. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: wgm, but in a way, wouldn't gold chains be harder to let go of? Even in the Gita Maharishi talks about having to let go of attachment to sattwa. Anyway, I remember hearing something about the desire for enlightenment being used to sublimate all other desires. Eeeek! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:43 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: I think there are good desires and bad desires, one leads to heaven the other hell but both keep one bound to the wheel of Samsara. Charlie used to say you can have iron chains or gold chains depending on your Karma, obviously we'd prefer gold chains. I was mainly talking about sinful desire like lust, greed and the like. B ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The *blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and death (Samsara or eternal damnation to reincarnation because of desire) until the *demon* of desire is quelled and the peace of soul realization is gained through meditation and God realization. ( Hey, a little Halloween here, enjoy!)
[FairfieldLife] RE: New Stealth Destroyer for the Navy
Re Historically, there are several methods of protection against submarines.: Thanks - I read through the article. I'm still unsure as to whether subs have the edge still or ASW methods are now up to the job. You know what they say about generals always fighting the last war . . . The point of my original query is that the destroyer you link to is so bloody expensive ($3.5 billion) whereas a sub is comparatively cheap. The German Type 212 class ($0.5 billion) is virtually undetectable, unlike diesel or nuclear submarines that generate more noise and higher heat signatures. One Type 212 established a new record for non-nuclear submarines with 18 days submerged without snorkelling. I guess I'll have to wait until the conflict between Japan and China over the Senkaku islands turns hot to find out. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Historically, there are several methods of protection against submarines. The latest ones are the guided weapons, as shown in this article below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: How does the destroyer protect itself against a submarine strike? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Its capabilities are impressive and highly technological. But is it necessary? http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx
[FairfieldLife] RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Wonderful Robert Crumb drawing.The caption reads, “Old writer puts on sweater, sits down, leers into the computer screen and writes about life. How holy can we get?” hey, you hear, Chinaski got a space-biter! ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel. That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little things. But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing cafe, is HOPE. OK, here goes. Hope. I still have it, in spades. Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be* hopeful. It's really not such a bad place. Get over it, if you believe it is. This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become. When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless. It's like the ending to Woody Allen's The Purple Rose Of Cairo. Cecilia (Mia Farrow) has had a bad day. She's on the street, homeless after telling her abusive husband to fuck off, and finding out that the other man she'd fallen in love with is fictional. She has nowhere to stay, and nowhere to go, and has very little money in her pockets. But she finds herself standing in front of a movie theater, and spends one of her last coins to go in and watch the movie. And up on the screen is Fred Astaire. And suddenly there is hope. Because no world that has Fred Astaire in it could possibly be hopeless.
[FairfieldLife] RE: New Stealth Destroyer for the Navy
The construction of an advanced nuclear submarine also cost a lot of money. Here's a documentary about building a British nuclear sub. It took 14 years to build and cost over one billion pounds. I believe that's equivalent to about $2.5 billion. You might find this video interesting. I saw this one several months ago. My thought then was,I wouldn't want to be the captain of this sub given the responsibility of commanding this complicated machine, carrying several nuclear missiles, and a full crew who are working in it for months at a time underneath the ocean. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ODDjsK0BOg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ODDjsK0BOg ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re Historically, there are several methods of protection against submarines.: Thanks - I read through the article. I'm still unsure as to whether subs have the edge still or ASW methods are now up to the job. You know what they say about generals always fighting the last war . . . The point of my original query is that the destroyer you link to is so bloody expensive ($3.5 billion) whereas a sub is comparatively cheap. The German Type 212 class ($0.5 billion) is virtually undetectable, unlike diesel or nuclear submarines that generate more noise and higher heat signatures. One Type 212 established a new record for non-nuclear submarines with 18 days submerged without snorkelling. I guess I'll have to wait until the conflict between Japan and China over the Senkaku islands turns hot to find out. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Historically, there are several methods of protection against submarines. The latest ones are the guided weapons, as shown in this article below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: How does the destroyer protect itself against a submarine strike? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Its capabilities are impressive and highly technological. But is it necessary? http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx
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[FairfieldLife] Maharishi on Kundalini
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[FairfieldLife] question for a biblical hebrew reader
Psalm 65 verse 7 makes me think of the process of transcending or the transcendent aspect/Shiva, traditionally this Psalm has been associated with an influence of abundance (the dharmamegha?) what say you?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Om quot;embeddedquot; in the tanakh?
It is said that Narayana mantra can take you all the way - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. there is versions that do not include om. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Under whose authority would the SSRS be giving out any bija mantras? If you can't reveal where MMY got the bijas, so how could you say SSRS got any bijas? There aren't any bijas mentioned in the Vedas. From what I've read, SSRS, like Deepak Chopra and Charlie Lutes, never became TM teachers by completing a TTC. So, how would they be knowing any bijas? Go figure. On 10/24/2013 7:41 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Authfriend: Today at 8:16 AM So what would the problem be if OM wasn't included in a maha-mantra but rather along with, say, a bija mantra like what TM uses? Did Sri Sri give out bija mantras, or just the maha-mantras? SSRS does indeed give out bija-mantras for meditation. However, I was never taught his sahaj-meditation technique so I did not receive one of his chosen meditation bija-mantras. What I asked him for (asked four times over a 7 year period) was guru-mantra. When he finally gave it to me it was a maha-mantra that named the source of our teaching lineage. If you consider the guru-puja which is performed at initiation then you can guess which mantra. I received it along with another one of SSRS's teachers who often stayed at my house. According to that teacher, he also received the same maha-mantra (it includes om). I couldn't have asked for a better mantra. I use it after my tm-mantra and before I perform sanyama on a few select sutras that work especially well for me. SSRS did tell me and that all the different bija-mantras naturally merge into the om sound at the finest level. BTW - the sankhya-yoga scholar said the same ... no problem with using om if sheltered in a longer mantra.
[FairfieldLife] RE: TM Serves me well
Dear MJ; Son really you got to have some serious stuff if you want to play the Fairfield meditating community as a healer. This is a pretty sophisticated spiritual crowd by long experience. If someone don't got some real shakti and its all talk then folks just go on to the next meeting. This last week we were visited by Janet Sussman and then there are the meetings with Connie Huebner most every week in Fairfield. And lots of satsangs, meditations, shaktipat and spiritual meetings always. You've seen the Fairfield, Iowa Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups? Others come through all the time. And then there are the Maha-saints, the sat-guru/ Jagatguru category like Ammachi or Mother Meera, Karunamayi and now John Douglas that come around and the meditating community will go to Be with them. However, a carpet bagging baptist reforming TM'er from some Carolina or where ever it be you are from at best could only hold a candle for some of what really goes on here. But you could certainly advertize here in the Weekly Reader like everyone else and try. Everyone gets a chance. Some have certainly flared out. It's a tough crowd of old meditators that is not so naive as it might have once been. But Fairfield, Iowa is certainly a very spiritual place by experience. You could try to milk it but I bet it would not give much for long unless you really got the goods and can be of real help. Though if you do come to Fairfield let us do coffee at Paradiso or Revelations once. Black coffee, none of that latte shit. I won't even ask to see your Dome badge, -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: That's right. I have finally figured out how grand TM is. I am in fact going to blend my channeling and TM of the past and create a glorious new future. I am moving to Fairfield and become a Vedic Channel. And since as a Vedic Channel I will be channeling from the Home of All the Laws of Nature, I will channel Pure Silence. So the client will sit with me and I will channel Pure Silence for half an hour and they will pay me big money. Thus TM finally becomes useful.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Maharishi on Kundalini
Which article you talking about? Nice picture of Maharishi. -Buck ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.srivyuha.org/Public/Welcome/CollectionofArticles/index.cfm?objID=611#at_pco=smlwn-1.0at_tot=1at_ab=per-10at_pos=0
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Altered Genes, Twisted Truth
Forwarded from a friend: A synopsis of Steven Druker's (former head counsel to MIU in Fairfield, IA and Governor of the Age of Englightenment) book, Altered Genes, Twisted Truth and I thought you would find it of interest. Steve will be lecturing about his book in Atlanta in the next couple of weeks. Email Pete Nassos for info. Book Description Publication Date: September 12, 2012 This book tells the fascinating and frequently astounding story of the biggest scientific fraud in history, and how it has maintained its force in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence. It describes how the massive enterprise to restructure the genetic core of the world’s food supply has routinely violated the standards of science and how for more than three decades, hundreds of eminent biologists and scores of esteemed institutions have systematically contorted the truth in order to conceal the unique risks of its products – and get them onto our dinner plates. Altered Genes, Twisted Truth reveals how this elaborate fraud was crafted and how it not only deceived the general public, but Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Barack Obama and a host of other astute and influential individuals as well. The book also exposes how the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) became a key accomplice – and how it covered up the warnings of its own scientists, broke the law, and repeatedly lied in order to usher genetically engineered (GE) foods onto the market without the safety testing that’s required by federal statute. Consequently, for fifteen years, America’s families have been regularly ingesting a group of novel products that are not only being sold illegally, but were determined to be unduly hazardous by the FDA’s own scientific staff. By the time this gripping story comes to a close, it will be clear that the degradation of science it documents has not only been unsavory but unprecedented – and that in no other instance have so many scientists so seriously subverted the standards they were trained to uphold, misled so many people, and imposed such magnitude of risk on both human health and the health of the environment. Steven M. Druker is a public interest attorney who initiated a lawsuit that forced the FDA to divulge its files on genetically engineered foods, which revealed that these novel products had entered the market through a colossal fraud. In organizing the suit, he assembled an unprecedented coalition of eminent scientists and religious leaders to join as co-plaintiffs. Praise for Altered Genes, Twisted Truth “A fascinating book: highly informative, eminently readable, and most enjoyable. It’s a real page-turner and an eye-opener.” Richard C. Jennings, Ph.D. Department of History and Philosophy of Science, University of Cambridge, UK “Altered Genes, Twisted Truth is lucid, illuminating, and alarming. As a former New York City prosecutor, I was shocked to discover how the FDA illegally exempted GE foods from the rigorous testing mandated by federal statute. And as the mother of three young kids, I was outraged to learn how America’s children are being callously exposed to experimental foods that were deemed abnormally risky by the FDA’s own experts.” Tara-Cook Littman, J.D. “Druker's brilliant exposé catches the promoters of GE food red-handed: falsifying data, corrupting regulators, lying to Congress. He thoroughly demonstrates how distortions and deceptions have been piled one on top of another, year after year, producing a global industry that teeters on a foundation of fraud and denial. This book is sure to send shockwaves around the world.” Jeffrey M. Smith, international bestselling author of Seeds of Deception Genetic Roulette “This incisive and insightful book is truly outstanding. It dispels the cloud of disinformation spread by the biotech industry and allied scientists that has duped people into believing GE foods are adequately tested and safe to eat. It’s a must-read – and a pleasure to read.” David Schubert, Ph.D. molecular biologist and Head of Cellular Neurobiology, Salk Institute for Biological Studies
[FairfieldLife] RE: question for a biblical hebrew reader
Obviously metaphorically it is referring to collective consciousness in the Meissner Effect [ME] when groups sit together in transcendental meditation. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Psalm 65 verse 7 makes me think of the process of transcending or the transcendent aspect/Shiva, traditionally this Psalm has been associated with an influence of abundance (the dharmamegha?) what say you?
[FairfieldLife] RE: New Stealth Destroyer for the Navy
Thanks again for the link. I've had a soft spot for subs ever since I saw Disney's 20,000 Leagues under the Sea (the godfather of the Steampunk genre!) and heard the Beatles' Yellow Submarine! But you've missed the point of my input. The Kraut sub is *not* nuclear - it utilises hydrogen fuel cells - so is not expensive. The submarine can operate at high speed on diesel power or switch to the air-independent propulsion system for silent, slow cruising, staying submerged for up to three weeks without surfacing and with no exhaust heat. The system is also said to be vibration-free, extremely quiet and virtually undetectable. As it's so much cheaper than the destroyer it makes it a cost-effective deterrent. Don't go in the water. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV5VDyBfIbA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV5VDyBfIbA ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: The construction of an advanced nuclear submarine also cost a lot of money. Here's a documentary about building a British nuclear sub. It took 14 years to build and cost over one billion pounds. I believe that's equivalent to about $2.5 billion. You might find this video interesting. I saw this one several months ago. My thought then was,I wouldn't want to be the captain of this sub given the responsibility of commanding this complicated machine, carrying several nuclear missiles, and a full crew who are working in it for months at a time underneath the ocean. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ODDjsK0BOg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ODDjsK0BOg ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re Historically, there are several methods of protection against submarines.: Thanks - I read through the article. I'm still unsure as to whether subs have the edge still or ASW methods are now up to the job. You know what they say about generals always fighting the last war . . . The point of my original query is that the destroyer you link to is so bloody expensive ($3.5 billion) whereas a sub is comparatively cheap. The German Type 212 class ($0.5 billion) is virtually undetectable, unlike diesel or nuclear submarines that generate more noise and higher heat signatures. One Type 212 established a new record for non-nuclear submarines with 18 days submerged without snorkelling. I guess I'll have to wait until the conflict between Japan and China over the Senkaku islands turns hot to find out. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Historically, there are several methods of protection against submarines. The latest ones are the guided weapons, as shown in this article below: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: How does the destroyer protect itself against a submarine strike? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Its capabilities are impressive and highly technological. But is it necessary? http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/26/is-general-dynamics-massive-new-stealth-destroyer.aspx
[FairfieldLife] RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance
Sitting in cafés in Paris was cool when everyone was allowed to smoke Gauloises and Gitanes and talk about Existentialism. Now the health fascists have banned the practice the conformists have won the day. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel. That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little things. But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing cafe, is HOPE. OK, here goes. Hope. I still have it, in spades. Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be* hopeful. It's really not such a bad place. Get over it, if you believe it is. This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become. When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless. It's like the ending to Woody Allen's The Purple Rose Of Cairo. Cecilia (Mia Farrow) has had a bad day. She's on the street, homeless after telling her abusive husband to fuck off, and finding out that the other man she'd fallen in love with is fictional. She has nowhere to stay, and nowhere to go, and has very little money in her pockets. But she finds herself standing in front of a movie theater, and spends one of her last coins to go in and watch the movie. And up on the screen is Fred Astaire. And suddenly there is hope. Because no world that has Fred Astaire in it could possibly be hopeless.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Om quot;embeddedquot; in the tanakh?
SSRS, although a mahapundit of the four vedas, should have asked you first. Although he had a number of teachers other than MMY, he obviously never asked permission from you - the punditster. I'm sure he regrets the omission to this day. I'm also sure you could clarify his pronunciation of the riks, reveal the hidden connections between between the vaious chhanda-s. Maybe you could obtain the blessing of the deva-s and get him authorized for using these cheating bijas stolen from the Buddhists. You should call him and offer to help him out. However, I wouldn't use your Prairie Dog credentials. Rather you should just introduce yourself as a pandit dedicated to cleaning up the fallen lineage of pseudo-pandits using fake bijas. You could give him a copy of the The Tantric Tradition by Leopold Fischer (agehananda bharati) and just point out You need to read this and stop ripping everyone off! So great of you to consider this. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Under whose authority would the SSRS be giving out any bija mantras? If you can't reveal where MMY got the bijas, so how could you say SSRS got any bijas? There aren't any bijas mentioned in the Vedas. From what I've read, SSRS, like Deepak Chopra and Charlie Lutes, never became TM teachers by completing a TTC. So, how would they be knowing any bijas? Go figure. On 10/24/2013 7:41 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Authfriend: Today at 8:16 AM So what would the problem be if OM wasn't included in a maha-mantra but rather along with, say, a bija mantra like what TM uses? Did Sri Sri give out bija mantras, or just the maha-mantras? SSRS does indeed give out bija-mantras for meditation. However, I was never taught his sahaj-meditation technique so I did not receive one of his chosen meditation bija-mantras. What I asked him for (asked four times over a 7 year period) was guru-mantra. When he finally gave it to me it was a maha-mantra that named the source of our teaching lineage. If you consider the guru-puja which is performed at initiation then you can guess which mantra. I received it along with another one of SSRS's teachers who often stayed at my house. According to that teacher, he also received the same maha-mantra (it includes om). I couldn't have asked for a better mantra. I use it after my tm-mantra and before I perform sanyama on a few select sutras that work especially well for me. SSRS did tell me and that all the different bija-mantras naturally merge into the om sound at the finest level. BTW - the sankhya-yoga scholar said the same ... no problem with using om if sheltered in a longer mantra.
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[FairfieldLife] Holy Hell - a book by Gail Tredwell on Amma, Mata Amritanandamayi
HOLY HELL: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness Here is a brief book description: Amma, universally known as The Hugging Saint, went through a two-decade transformation from a simple fisherman's daughter to an international wonder worshiped by millions. Gail Gayatri Tredwell was there every step of the way—from early devotee to head female disciple, ever-present personal attendant, handmaiden, whipping post, and unwilling keeper of some devastating secrets. Because she became fluent in the Malayalam language and had continual intimate proximity to Amma for twenty years, Tredwell is uniquely capable of portraying this famous woman. She tells her tale with straightforward honesty, fairness, and a dash of Aussie snap and wit. Although the guru’s flaws are a necessary part of her story and awakening, she strives to be factual throughout, digging deep to eschew victim frameworks and take responsibility for her own role in accepting the abuse and perpetuating the lies. Tredwell takes us vividly through her varying stages, starting with naïveté and innocent devotion, then on to dawning awareness and confusion, finally to emotional breakdown and her shocking enlightenment—her realization that the liberation she urgently required was is in fact liberation from her own guru. On Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Holy- Hell-Memoir-Devotion-Madness/ dp/0989679403 http://www.amazon.com/Holy-Hell-Memoir-Devotion-Madness/dp/0989679403 E-book: https://www.ebookpie.com/ search/ebooks?utf8=✓keywords= holy+hell https://www.ebookpie.com/search/ebooks?utf8=âamp;keywords=holy+hell Gail's Website: http://gailtredwell.com/ http://gailtredwell.com/ Holy Hell Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Gail-Tredwell/458540434262006 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Gail-Tredwell/458540434262006
