date:20131110

For better or for worse, the TMO isn't in the disaster-relief business; it's in
the teaching-TM business.

It would be nice, though, if they'd send some teachers out there to teach TM
for free to storm victims once the immediate crisis is under control.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

But, but, but, why isn't the TMO on the list of organizations receiving
donations for relief?

On Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

I have a client/friend who has outsourced some of his software development to
the Philippines. He waned me to make the trip with him there around this time
to play technical director. I was not big on the idea. I'm meeting with him
tomorrow so will jibe him about that idea. No reason in this day in age of
Skype why we need to make such trips.

So how much are the Waltons going to be donating?

On 11/10/2013 12:17 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

The parts of the Phillippines hit by Super Typhoon Haiyan look like Japan
after the tsunami. Ten thousand people is an early estimate of how many have
died, and this will surely rise once rescue and recovery teams can reach
outlying areas. Communications and power are out, and many are without food and
clean water.

- UNICEF http://donate.unicef.ph/campaign/24/typhoon-yolanda-emergency-appeal
is accepting donations to directly assist the children affected by Haiyan.
“Children urgently need access to safe water, hygiene supplies, food, shelter
and a safe environment to recover,” the groups said.
- Catholic Relief Services is another major organization helping to collect
relief funds for the recovery efforts.
- CARE http://www.care.org/emergencies/typhoon-haiyan teams are on the ground
in typhoon-affected areas of the Philippines and CARE plans to provide
emergency relief to thousands of families.
- ChildFund International http://www.childfund.org/emergency/ has been on the
ground in the Philippines since 1954. In addition to providing food, water and
shelter for typhoon victims, the organization is also setting up counseling
centers for children affected by the disaster.
- Save the Children is directing donations to help children in the
Philippines, Vietnam and Laos. They’ve also said they will set aside 10 percent
of all donations to create a new fund for similar future emergencies.
- Oxfam
https://secure.oxfamamerica.org/site/Donation2;jsessionid=5626038469A8D6B9D4EDE80B5A443810.app244a?8300.donation=form1&df_id=8300is
also working on relief efforts to provide clean water, food, medicine and
shelter to victims.

- Heifer
http://www.heifer.org/campaign/disaster-rehabilitation-fund/index.html?isource=BODSK13ZP0002
is accepting donations to help residents recover from and prepare for future
disasters.
- The Canadian organization GlobalMedic http://www.globalmedic.ca/ is working
to provide clean water to Haiyan victims. “Those people are vulnerable,”
GlobalMedic’s Rahul Singh told the Toronto Sun
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/08/canadian-charity-works-to-help-philippines-typhoon-victims.
“And clean water is essential in order to prevent a secondary catastrophe.”

If the links above aren't clickable, go to article on Yahoo, here:

http://news.yahoo.com/how-to-help-donate-to-victims-of-super-typhoon-haiyan-195111618.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Devastation in the Phillippines

2013-11-10 Thread Mike Dixon

But, but, but, why isn't the TMO on the list of organizations receiving 
donations for relief?




On Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:46 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:
  
  
I have a client/friend who has outsourced some of his software development to 
the Philippines.  He waned me to make the trip with him there around this time 
to play technical director.  I was not big on the idea.  I'm meeting with him 
tomorrow so will jibe him about that idea.  No reason in this day in age of 
Skype why we need to make such trips.

So how much are the Waltons going to be donating?

On 11/10/2013 12:17 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
>The parts of the Phillippines hit by Super Typhoon Haiyan look like Japan 
>after the tsunami. Ten thousand people is an early estimate of how many have 
>died, and this will surely rise once rescue and recovery teams can reach 
>outlying areas. Communications and power are out, and many are without food 
>and clean water. 
>
> 
>Here's a list from Yahoo! News of some of the relief organizations accepting 
>donations: 
>- The United Nations World Food Programme estimates that 2.5 million people 
>will need food assistance in the regions affected by Haiyan. They have set up 
>a page where you can donate to efforts aimed at providing relief to families 
>and children affected by the typhoon.
> 
>- UNICEF is accepting donations to directly assist the children affected by 
>Haiyan. “Children urgently need access to safe water, hygiene supplies, food, 
>shelter and a safe environment to recover,” the groups said.
>- Catholic Relief Services is another major organization helping to collect 
>relief funds for the recovery efforts.
>- CARE teams are on the ground in typhoon-affected areas of the Philippines 
>and CARE plans to provide emergency relief to thousands of families.
>- ChildFund International has been on the ground in the Philippines since 
>1954. In addition to providing food, water and shelter for typhoon victims, 
>the organization is also setting up counseling centers for children affected 
>by the disaster.
> 
>- Save the Children is directing donations to help children in the 
>Philippines, Vietnam and Laos. They’ve also said they will set aside 10 
>percent of all donations to create a new fund for similar future emergencies. 
>- Oxfam is also working on relief efforts to provide clean water, food, 
>medicine and shelter to victims.
> - Heifer is accepting donations to help residents recover from and prepare 
> for future disasters.
>- The Canadian organization GlobalMedic is working to provide clean water to 
>Haiyan victims. “Those people are vulnerable,” GlobalMedic’s Rahul Singh told 
>the Toronto Sun. “And clean water is essential in order to prevent a secondary 
>catastrophe.” 
>
> 
>If the links above aren't clickable, go to article on Yahoo, here: 
>
> 
>http://news.yahoo.com/how-to-help-donate-to-victims-of-super-typhoon-haiyan-195111618.html
>

[FairfieldLife] RE: Surrogates in India

2013-11-10 Thread jr_esq

Ann,

The ideas you presented are insightful. IMO, the question of an act of war
can be justified using the reasoning as stated in the Gita and that of the
Catholic Church's teachings. In both systems of reasoning, an act of war can
be justified if a country is defending its sovereign rights and the life of its
people. On the individual level, there is nothing wrong with defending oneself
from harm by another person who is determined to kill or harm you.

Also, I believe that, in both systems of thought, the laws of nature will
eventually help you if your actions are right. The Gita calls this as good
karma. The Catholic Church would call it Providence.

In both systems of thought, the consciousness of the individual is the most
important part of deciding what is right. The Gita calls it enlightenment.
The Christians call it Conscience.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

John, I'd never before heard that Krishna allows for everything to happen but
I think it's true, diversity being the unrelenting nature of the universe. As
for an act being good or bad in and of itself, the Gita has just the opposite
teaching of the Catholic Church. In the Gita, the act is good to the degree
that it is performed with highly developed consciousness. Krishna is telling
Arjuna to kill, but to do so established in Being. It brings to mind Kohlberg's
Moral Reasoning Scale and the kind of moral reasoning that is not seen in
fundamentalists of any organization.

Maharishi told people to follow the laws of one's country and religion and I
agree with that. Until one is sure on the level of Being that to do so is not
life supporting. Even then, karma is unfathomable. Remembering pious men like
Brother David and Father Keating, the answer comes to just rest in life's
ultimate goodness, do one's best, and let the chips fall where they may (-:

Share's comprehensive answer to the philosophy and meaning of life and how to
live it. I wonder why the rest of the great thinkers and enlightened beings
throughout history failed to come up with this sophisticated answer. And to
think Buck, you've been here to witness this revelation right here on FFL!
Happy now?

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 10:40 AM, "jr_esq@..." wrote:

Share,

It's a tough question for couples answer whether it's ethical or not to use a
surrogate. But the most immediate concern for them is to have a baby.

For this type of case, Sanjay Rath, the jyotishi, believes it can be justified
since Krishna allows for everything to happen. If the couple has good karma,
then they will be rewarded with a child. If not, the child will be denied.

In the Catholic Church, the issue is in deciding the nature of the act
performed. If the act by itself is good then the act and results are ethical.
If the act by itself is not "licit", then the act and the results are not
ethical.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

John, I agree that something about it does not feel right though if no force
is involved it seems legal enough. It seems like a win win but is it also a win
for the child? And it definitely indicates an unhealthy imbalance in the world
that a woman would have to earn money by bearing another person's child. I
could support it if there were guarantees that the child and surrogate mother
would remain in contact. But that seems unlikely. So I say, keep looking for
other solutions to both problems.

On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:19 PM, "jr_esq@..." wrote:

That probably cost them about $100,000 since it was done here in the US.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

A rich friend did that with their second child because the wife had a hard
time carrying the first one. They used a US surrogate though.

On 11/08/2013 11:56 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote:

They're apparently becoming a thriving business in the country, and have
become the solution for infertile couples in the US and elsewhere in the world.

One wonders about the ethics regarding this practice.

http://gma.yahoo.com/infertile-americans-india-gestational-surrogates-111533378--abc-news-health.html

[FairfieldLife] RE: Who's Going to Win the Miss Universe 2013 Contest?

 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Ann,
 

 Thanks for the excellent photos you presented.  It appears that you like 
pictures of women that are natural without makeup.  Did you take the photos 
yourself.
 

 From what I've seen, the Miss Universe contest has become big business.  Bill 
Trump himself estimated that about a billion people in the world watched the 
contest.  So, there is a big incentive for the contestants to present 
themselves in the best way possible.
 

 I have a hunch that there is a secret formula that each country has to win the 
contest as often as possible.  It appears that Venezuela has a winning formula 
since they've won many of these contests for the past ten years or so.
 

 There is also the element of social expectation for this event.  The higher 
the expectation then there is more incentive for the young women to participate 
in these contests for fame and notoriety.
 

 But the contest lately has become a vehicle to make social statements and 
changes.  In particular, the contest organizers hired a host who is openly gay. 
 So, this is a tacit statement that Russia's policies against the LGBT 
community in their country are archaic and out of touch with the current world 
thinking.
 

 IMO, the contest judges further appeared to have made a political statement by 
denying the Russian contestant a place as one of the five finalists.  From what 
I've seen, she certainly was attractive enough to be a finalist.  Ordinarily, 
this would have been expected since Russia is the host country of this year's 
event.
 

 In summary, this contest is not necessarily a beauty competition alone.  But 
it has become a political one as well. 
 

 Hey John, thanks for your take on the contest. I think you are seeing some 
aspects of the thing that go way beyond the most superficial and I liked your 
analysis. One thing for sure, you always present your viewpoint with good 
nature and without malice. Consequently I will always read your posts, I like 
the place they originate from.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Some examples, for me, of believable women (visually).
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  Ann,
 

 How do you define a real woman using your criteria?  By the way, there are 
many people who watch the Miss Universe contest.  I happen to be interested in 
it for reasons that you can probably guess.  But I didn't watch the show 
tonight.  I just read the news on the internet and passed it along to the group 
in case anyone is interested in this kind of activity.
 

 I LIKE the fact that you watch the Miss Universe contest Jr (or at least keep 
tabs on the front runners) - you are an anomaly in my book and you are honest 
enough to admit you like to look at the beautiful specimens of what some of the 
world has come to think of as "women". Probably more than a few of the men here 
would not like to admit this might be a guilty pleasure for them (not because 
there is anything wrong with oogling these beauty queens but most would like to 
think of themselves above such superficiality).
 

 Defining a "real woman" would take too long here but to answer specifically 
what I think is unreal about the images of these women (who are real enough 
underneath the patina of fake tans, gobs of makeup and hair gel) is a bit 
easier. It is the images, the actual renderings and presentation of these 
people that is unreal. The photographs are so airbrushed and shopped that they 
become plastic looking and without a drop of red blood anywhere in evidence 
coursing through these women's veins. The unrealness is that everyone knows 
that no one actually looks like this and it makes me laugh a bit, that's all. 
It is so patently artificial and is somehow thought to represent the pinnacle 
of beauty. The images presented to the public via these photos is very like the 
computer-generated characters in films like "Toy Story" and more recent ones of 
that genre whose names escape me at the moment. While they might resemble human 
beings enough as to be recognizable as such ultimately, if one were to wake up 
and look at the body lying next to you and they looked flawless like that, it 
would give one quite a start - and not in a good way.
 

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Thanks for the update but this specimen still doesn't quite look like a real 
woman to me. I wouldn't have pegged you for a watcher of the Miss Universe 
contest Jr.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Buck and Ann,
 

 The winner this year is Miss Venezuela.  Doesn't she look like Raquel Welch?
 

 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html
 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html

 

 I personally feel that this is a news worthy event.  Why w

[FairfieldLife] RE: Who's Going to Win the Miss Universe 2013 Contest?

2013-11-10 Thread jr_esq

Ann,
 

 Thanks for the excellent photos you presented.  It appears that you like 
pictures of women that are natural without makeup.  Did you take the photos 
yourself.
 

 From what I've seen, the Miss Universe contest has become big business.  Bill 
Trump himself estimated that about a billion people in the world watched the 
contest.  So, there is a big incentive for the contestants to present 
themselves in the best way possible.
 

 I have a hunch that there is a secret formula that each country has to win the 
contest as often as possible.  It appears that Venezuela has a winning formula 
since they've won many of these contests for the past ten years or so.
 

 There is also the element of social expectation for this event.  The higher 
the expectation then there is more incentive for the young women to participate 
in these contests for fame and notoriety.
 

 But the contest lately has become a vehicle to make social statements and 
changes.  In particular, the contest organizers hired a host who is openly gay. 
 So, this is a tacit statement that Russia's policies against the LGBT 
community in their country are archaic and out of touch with the current world 
thinking.
 

 IMO, the contest judges further appeared to have made a political statement by 
denying the Russian contestant a place as one of the five finalists.  From what 
I've seen, she certainly was attractive enough to be a finalist.  Ordinarily, 
this would have been expected since Russia is the host country of this year's 
event.
 

 In summary, this contest is not necessarily a beauty competition alone.  But 
it has become a political one as well. 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Some examples, for me, of believable women (visually).
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  Ann,
 

 How do you define a real woman using your criteria?  By the way, there are 
many people who watch the Miss Universe contest.  I happen to be interested in 
it for reasons that you can probably guess.  But I didn't watch the show 
tonight.  I just read the news on the internet and passed it along to the group 
in case anyone is interested in this kind of activity.
 

 I LIKE the fact that you watch the Miss Universe contest Jr (or at least keep 
tabs on the front runners) - you are an anomaly in my book and you are honest 
enough to admit you like to look at the beautiful specimens of what some of the 
world has come to think of as "women". Probably more than a few of the men here 
would not like to admit this might be a guilty pleasure for them (not because 
there is anything wrong with oogling these beauty queens but most would like to 
think of themselves above such superficiality).
 

 Defining a "real woman" would take too long here but to answer specifically 
what I think is unreal about the images of these women (who are real enough 
underneath the patina of fake tans, gobs of makeup and hair gel) is a bit 
easier. It is the images, the actual renderings and presentation of these 
people that is unreal. The photographs are so airbrushed and shopped that they 
become plastic looking and without a drop of red blood anywhere in evidence 
coursing through these women's veins. The unrealness is that everyone knows 
that no one actually looks like this and it makes me laugh a bit, that's all. 
It is so patently artificial and is somehow thought to represent the pinnacle 
of beauty. The images presented to the public via these photos is very like the 
computer-generated characters in films like "Toy Story" and more recent ones of 
that genre whose names escape me at the moment. While they might resemble human 
beings enough as to be recognizable as such ultimately, if one were to wake up 
and look at the body lying next to you and they looked flawless like that, it 
would give one quite a start - and not in a good way.
 

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Thanks for the update but this specimen still doesn't quite look like a real 
woman to me. I wouldn't have pegged you for a watcher of the Miss Universe 
contest Jr.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Buck and Ann,
 

 The winner this year is Miss Venezuela.  Doesn't she look like Raquel Welch?
 

 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html
 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html

 

 I personally feel that this is a news worthy event.  Why would anyone think 
otherwise? 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 So it would be good, to have better writing and more self-editing on FFL. 
 
 -Buck   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Miss USA has a good chance.  It all depends on what she says in the Q and A 
portion of the contest.  But the competition will be tough this year. 

 
http://content2.catalog.pho

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[FairfieldLife] RE: Sorry, Card...

2013-11-10 Thread cardemaister

Nothing to be sorry for! This country is going down the drain!
 Finns used to be tough, but unfortunately the natural selection
 doesn't work anymore...
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 I didn't find it. It was forwarded my way by a friend. 

Hard As Life. A Finnish commercial for bread:

 
http://depressingfinland.tumblr.com/post/65411926403/finnish-bread-advertisement-hinted-to-me-by
 
http://depressingfinland.tumblr.com/post/65411926403/finnish-bread-advertisement-hinted-to-me-byhttp://depressingfinland.tumblr.com/post/65411926403/finnish-bread-advertisement-hinted-to-me-by
 
http://depressingfinland.tumblr.com/post/65411926403/finnish-bread-advertisement-hinted-to-me-by
 

:-)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-10 Thread emptybill

I prefer to parallel Shankara's Advaita with Buddhism to get a clearer picture 
because Advaita professes the insights of the Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras and 
the Gita. Buddhism diverges from this on the following points.

 Both say that the world is “unreal”, but Buddhists mean that it is only a 
conceptual construct (vikalpa), while Shankara does not think that the world is 
merely conceptual.

 Momentariness is a cardinal principal of Buddhism – consciousness is 
fundamentally momentary for them. However, in Advaita, awareness (jñâna/chit) 
is pure (shuddha), without beginning or end (anadi) and is thoroughly 
continuous. The momentariness of empirical states of consciousness overlies 
this continuity. 

 In Buddhism, the “self” is the ego (the “I”) – a conceptual construct that is 
quite unreal. In Advaita, the Self is the only “truly Real” and is the basis of 
all concepts. 

 In Buddhism, ignorance (avidya) causes us to construct continuities (such as 
the self) where there are none. In Advaita, ignorance/avidya causes us instead 
to take what is unreal to be real and what is real to be unreal. 

 Removal of avidya is Nirvana/blown-out-ness for Buddhists but for Shankara it 
reveals perfect knowledge (vidya).

 To take a vow to "attain complete enlightenment for the sake of all sentient 
beings" at least means you've got a job for life! By the way: if it's such a 
noble idea why did Shakyamuni not take the vow?

 It's a job for numberless kalpas - not just one life. 

 BTW - in Mahayana, Shakyamuni is considered the very embodiment of those Bodhi 
vows. His “bodies” (nirmanakaya, sambhogakaya,dharmakaya)  are considered the 
dimensions of awakened awareness – at once concrete, historically unfolding, 
universally all-embracing and abstractly paradigmatic.  

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Re "Why talk to yourself when you already know what you are saying? Especially 
since there is no "other' to listen.":

 Because *I* didn't know what *you* were going to post in response to my 
message until it popped up on my laptop screen. That's the way the game of life 
has been set up. But the "I" and the "you" are appearances in consciousness of 
the One Self. 

 The whole not-self/one self split between Buddhism/Hinduism masks the fact 
that the experiences of the adepts in both traditions are identical. The 
difference in terminology has probably got more to do with the fact that 
Buddhism is essentially a philosophy whereas Hinduism is a complex of 
religions. 

 To take a vow to "attain complete enlightenment for the sake of all sentient 
beings" at least means you've got a job for life! By the way: if it's such a 
noble idea why did Shakyamuni not take the vow? 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Talk about Oracular ... 

 Buddhadharma asserts anatmam/nairatmya (not-self) rather than ekâtman (one 
self). Why talk to yourself when you already know what you are saying? 
Especially since there is no "other' to listen. 

 Oh yeah, all is one and one is none ... yada yada.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Re "Take the so-called "Bodhisattva Vow." Essentially, it is declaring to 
oneself and to the world one's intention to not allow oneself to become 
enlightened oneself until all sentient beings are enlightened.":  

 There is only the One Self - so there are no "others"! To become enlightened 
is to realise that truth and therefore to see that there is no one who is *not* 
enlightened and so no one who needs to be enlightened!

  "Subhuti, it is just the same when a disciple speaks of liberating numberless 
sentient beings. If they have in mind any arbitrary conception of sentient 
beings or of definite numbers, then they are unworthy of being called a 
disciple. Subhuti, my teachings reveal that even such a thing as is called a 
'disciple' is non-existent. Furthermore, there is really nothing for a disciple 
to liberate."  "A true disciple knows that there is no such thing as a self, a 
person, a living being, or a universal self. A true disciple knows that all 
things are devoid of selfhood, devoid of any separate individuality." DIAMOND 
SUTRA

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Alert! Alert! Now it can be told. 

 What I think is "hard-wired" into the human psyche is
 ego, and hubris, and that's what I think is at the root of
 such goals, noble as they may seem.

However, such a post is NOT "the result of ego and hubris"
but is an oracular advent naturally appearing in the universe. 

I'm in awe!

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Michael Jackson wrote:
 >
 > just hard-wired into the con artists who claim to be able to do it.

 I am less harsh than you are, Michael, in that I suspect
 a lot of people who have such laudable goals "mean well,"
 at least at the beginning.

 What I think is "hard-wired" int

Re: [FairfieldLife] Devastation in the Phillippines

I have a client/friend who has outsourced some of his software
development to the Philippines. He waned me to make the trip with him
there around this time to play technical director. I was not big on the
idea. I'm meeting with him tomorrow so will jibe him about that idea.
No reason in this day in age of Skype why we need to make such trips.

So how much are the Waltons going to be donating?

On 11/10/2013 12:17 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

The parts of the Phillippines hit by Super Typhoon Haiyan look like
Japan after the tsunami. Ten thousand people is an early estimate of
how many have died, and this will surely rise once rescue and recovery
teams can reach outlying areas. Communications and power are out, and
many are without food and clean water.

Here's a list from Yahoo! News of some of the relief organizations
accepting donations:
- The United Nations World Food Programme
estimates that 2.5 million people
will need food assistance in the regions affected by Haiyan. They have
set up a page where you can donate to efforts aimed at providing
relief to families and children affected by the typhoon.
- UNICEF
is
accepting donations to directly assist the children affected by
Haiyan. “Children urgently need access to safe water, hygiene
supplies, food, shelter and a safe environment to recover,” the groups
said.
- Catholic Relief Services
is
another major organization helping to collect relief funds for the
recovery efforts.
- CARE teams are on
the ground in typhoon-affected areas of the Philippines and CARE plans
to provide emergency relief to thousands of families.
-ChildFund International has been
on the ground in the Philippines since 1954. In addition to providing
food, water and shelter fortyphoon victims, the organization is also
setting up counseling centers for children affected by the disaster.

- Save the Children
is
directing donations to help children in the Philippines, Vietnam and
Laos. They’ve also said they will set aside 10 percent of all
donations to create a new fund for similar future emergencies.

-Oxfam
is
also working on relief efforts to provide clean water, food, medicine
and shelter to victims.

- Heifer
is
accepting donations to help residents recover from and prepare for
future disasters.
- The Canadian organization GlobalMedic
is working to provide clean water to
Haiyan victims. “Those people are vulnerable,” GlobalMedic’s Rahul
Singh told the Toronto Sun
.
“And clean water is essential in order to prevent a secondary
catastrophe.”

If the links above aren't clickable, go to article on Yahoo, here:

http://news.yahoo.com/how-to-help-donate-to-victims-of-super-typhoon-haiyan-195111618.html

[FairfieldLife] Devastation in the Phillippines

The parts of the Phillippines hit by Super Typhoon Haiyan look like Japan after
the tsunami. Ten thousand people is an early estimate of how many have died,
and this will surely rise once rescue and recovery teams can reach outlying
areas. Communications and power are out, and many are without food and clean
water.

Here's a list from Yahoo! News of some of the relief organizations accepting
donations:
- The United Nations World Food Programme https://www.wfp.org/donate/typhoon
estimates that 2.5 million people will need food assistance in the regions
affected by Haiyan. They have set up a page where you can donate to efforts
aimed at providing relief to families and children affected by the typhoon.

- UNICEF http://donate.unicef.ph/campaign/24/typhoon-yolanda-emergency-appeal
is accepting donations to directly assist the children affected by Haiyan.
“Children urgently need access to safe water, hygiene supplies, food, shelter
and a safe environment to recover,” the groups said.
- Catholic Relief Services
http://emergencies.crs.org/typhoon-haiyan-help-philippines-survive-and-recover/
is another major organization helping to collect relief funds for the recovery
efforts.
- CARE http://www.care.org/emergencies/typhoon-haiyan teams are on the ground
in typhoon-affected areas of the Philippines and CARE plans to provide
emergency relief to thousands of families.
- ChildFund International http://www.childfund.org/emergency/ has been on the
ground in the Philippines since 1954. In addition to providing food, water and
shelter for typhoon victims, the organization is also setting up counseling
centers for children affected by the disaster.
- Save the Children
https://secure.savethechildren.org/site/c.8rKLIXMGIpI4E/b.8855857/k.E53D/Donate_to_the_Typhoon_Haiyan_Childrens_Relief_Fund/apps/ka/sd/donor.asp
is directing donations to help children in the Philippines, Vietnam and Laos.
They’ve also said they will set aside 10 percent of all donations to create a
new fund for similar future emergencies.
- Oxfam
https://secure.oxfamamerica.org/site/Donation2;jsessionid=5626038469A8D6B9D4EDE80B5A443810.app244a?8300.donation=form1&df_id=8300is
also working on relief efforts to provide clean water, food, medicine and
shelter to victims.

If the links above aren't clickable, go to article on Yahoo, here:

http://news.yahoo.com/how-to-help-donate-to-victims-of-super-typhoon-haiyan-195111618.html

[FairfieldLife] RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-10 Thread s3raphita

Re "Why talk to yourself when you already know what you are saying? Especially 
since there is no "other' to listen.":

 Because *I* didn't know what *you* were going to post in response to my 
message until it popped up on my laptop screen. That's the way the game of life 
has been set up. But the "I" and the "you" are appearances in consciousness of 
the One Self. 

 The whole not-self/one self split between Buddhism/Hinduism masks the fact 
that the experiences of the adepts in both traditions are identical. The 
difference in terminology has probably got more to do with the fact that 
Buddhism is essentially a philosophy whereas Hinduism is a complex of 
religions. 

 To take a vow to "attain complete enlightenment for the sake of all sentient 
beings" at least means you've got a job for life! By the way: if it's such a 
noble idea why did Shakyamuni not take the vow? 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Talk about Oracular ... 

 Buddhadharma asserts anatmam/nairatmya (not-self) rather than ekâtman (one 
self). Why talk to yourself when you already know what you are saying? 
Especially since there is no "other' to listen. 

 Oh yeah, all is one and one is none ... yada yada.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Re "Take the so-called "Bodhisattva Vow." Essentially, it is declaring to 
oneself and to the world one's intention to not allow oneself to become 
enlightened oneself until all sentient beings are enlightened.":  

 There is only the One Self - so there are no "others"! To become enlightened 
is to realise that truth and therefore to see that there is no one who is *not* 
enlightened and so no one who needs to be enlightened!

  "Subhuti, it is just the same when a disciple speaks of liberating numberless 
sentient beings. If they have in mind any arbitrary conception of sentient 
beings or of definite numbers, then they are unworthy of being called a 
disciple. Subhuti, my teachings reveal that even such a thing as is called a 
'disciple' is non-existent. Furthermore, there is really nothing for a disciple 
to liberate."  "A true disciple knows that there is no such thing as a self, a 
person, a living being, or a universal self. A true disciple knows that all 
things are devoid of selfhood, devoid of any separate individuality." DIAMOND 
SUTRA

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Alert! Alert! Now it can be told. 

 What I think is "hard-wired" into the human psyche is
 ego, and hubris, and that's what I think is at the root of
 such goals, noble as they may seem.

However, such a post is NOT "the result of ego and hubris"
but is an oracular advent naturally appearing in the universe. 

I'm in awe!

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Michael Jackson wrote:
 >
 > just hard-wired into the con artists who claim to be able to do it.

 I am less harsh than you are, Michael, in that I suspect
 a lot of people who have such laudable goals "mean well,"
 at least at the beginning.

 What I think is "hard-wired" into the human psyche is
 ego, and hubris, and that's what I think is at the root of
 such goals, noble as they may seem.

 Take the so-called "Bodhisattva Vow." Essentially, it is
 declaring to oneself and to the world one's intention to
 not allow oneself to become enlightened oneself until
 all sentient beings are enlightened. Sounds good on
 the surface, but step back for a moment and consider
 the HUBRIS of such a statement.

 To make it, you have to believe 1) that you have the
 *ability* to help bring all beings to enlightenment
 (can't get more hubristic than that), 2) that it is your
 *right* to modify these sentient beings life in accord
 with how you think they should be, and 3) that the
 universe actually gives a shit what you believe or
 what you "vow."

 Maharishi's quote below is in the same ballpark IMO.
 What gives him the *right* to define what "fully-
 developed citizens" are. Are they "people who meditate?"
 Do they include the toadies in the organization he
 founded who can only do what they're told, *whatever*
 they're told (like smuggling money across international
 borders)?

 IMO, one should always be wary of overly lofty goals.
 They are often trotted out for their "Wow factor," and
 to *distract* people from the here-and-now daily
 activities of those who profess them.

 As one spiritual teacher used to say, "Listen to what
 people say, but watch what they DO." After he gave
 this dictum to his students as a "rule of thumb," he
 was probably more surprised than anyone else when
 they started leaving in droves, after realizing that he
 failed to "walk his own talk."

 > 
 > On Fri, 11/8/13, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote:
 >
 > So far, on the mat and counted out. This is
 > pretty much the goal of every organisation that wants to
 > better the world. Interest

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Is pain a barrier to TM?

One reason I asked if it was seasonal is it is the vata season and pain 
is often related to vata going high.  So sometimes just so vata reducing 
herbs can help.  I figured if it was chronic you would  have checked 
with your health care system, not  that conventional medicine does that 
well with pain (usually just want to give you pain drugs rather than 
deal with the cause).  Even in CC pain would be annoying.



On 11/10/2013 11:37 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


Re "if you drink too much coffee but you're a UK tea drinker, right?":


I am a tea drinker - but always decaffeinated!


My back is much better today - thanks for advice given. It was really 
the general principle I was curious about.



I suppose the only long-term solution is to attain permanent CC - then 
you won't need to meditate and can no doubt view your chronic pain 
with indifference. That's the theory anyway - MMY always claimed that 
Jesus never suffered. He was unknowingly echoing the heresy of 
Docetism which held that Jesus was a man in the flesh, but Christ was 
a separate entity, who entered Jesus’ body at his baptism and 
abandoned him on his death on the Cross.



Mohammed agreed:

That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, 
the Messenger of Allah”—but they killed him not, nor crucified him, 
but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are 
full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to 
follow, for of a surety they killed him not—nay, Allah raised him up 
unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.” (Qur’an, 4:157-158).




---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

In my "non TM" tantric tradition, if something interferes with 
meditation then it is not worth taking time to meditate as the 
meditation will be unproductive unless for some reason it mitigates 
the pain.   Is this pain chronic or seasonal? Where is it located?  
Lower back pain can indicate irritated kidneys especially if you drink 
too much coffee but you're a UK tea drinker, right?


On 11/09/2013 06:22 PM, s3raphita@...  wrote:

I mentioned on a recent thread that I've got back pain at the moment. 
(A rarity for me.) Actually "pain" is way too strong a word - it's 
just an irritating ache which lasts all day but I don't notice it 
when I'm distracted - or when I do my TM session.



What I wanted to ask was: is it the case that those suffering from 
*chronic* pain (the kind of pain that even pain-killers can't 
completely eradicate) can still practise TM? Does anyone have any 
experience of that situation?

[FairfieldLife] RE: Is pain a barrier to TM?

2013-11-10 Thread s3raphita

Re " if you drink too much coffee but you're a UK tea drinker, right?":
 

 I am a tea drinker - but always decaffeinated!
 

 My back is much better today - thanks for advice given. It was really the 
general principle I was curious about.
 

 I suppose the only long-term solution is to attain permanent CC - then you 
won't need to meditate and can no doubt view your chronic pain with 
indifference. That's the theory anyway - MMY always claimed that Jesus never 
suffered. He was unknowingly echoing the heresy of Docetism which held that 
Jesus was a man in the flesh, but Christ was a separate entity, who entered 
Jesus’ body at his baptism and abandoned him on his death on the Cross.
 

 Mohammed agreed:
 That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the 
Messenger of Allah”—but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was 
made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with 
no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they 
killed him not—nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in 
Power, Wise.” (Qur’an, 4:157-158).
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 In my "non TM" tantric tradition, if something interferes with meditation then 
it is not worth taking time to meditate as the meditation will be unproductive 
unless for some reason it mitigates the pain.   Is this pain chronic or 
seasonal? Where is it located?  Lower back pain can indicate irritated kidneys 
especially if you drink too much coffee but you're a UK tea drinker, right?
  
 On 11/09/2013 06:22 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote:
 
   I mentioned on a recent thread that I've got back pain at the moment. (A 
rarity for me.) Actually "pain" is way too strong a word - it's just an 
irritating ache which lasts all day but I don't notice it when I'm distracted - 
or when I do my TM session. 
 
 
 What I wanted to ask was: is it the case that those suffering from *chronic* 
pain (the kind of pain that even pain-killers can't completely eradicate) can 
still practise TM? Does anyone have any experience of that situation?

[FairfieldLife] Sorry, Card...

2013-11-10 Thread TurquoiseB

I didn't find it. It was forwarded my way by a friend.

Hard As Life. A Finnish commercial for bread:

 
 

http://depressingfinland.tumblr.com/post/65411926403/finnish-bread-adver\
tisement-hinted-to-me-by


:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Satya Sai Baba-Godman, or pedafile and charlatan? BBC

emptybill, though I do understand how, from the physics POV, anything is 
possible, there are some things that seem way less probable, such as a godman 
who's also a pedophile. 





On Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:22 AM, "emptyb...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Why not a charlatan, pedophile godman?



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjk2NpKMFM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Let's see if this works

Yes it is complicated. But in your reply my original three pics picture 
still displays.  Your pictures are links.  I've included a link to a 
base64 picture encoder to experiment with.  Yahoo wants the picture to 
have the width and height vars too.  If you login to the web site, 
select Reply using Rich Text then click on the Yahoo Groups HTML 
instructions they give an example right at the top of how the  tag 
should look for base64 encoding.  This works on the site but not via 
email.  Why?   Well it looks like Thunderbird converts my base64 image 
to an alternate embedded method which Yahoo doesn't recognize but the 
image is still there in the email when I looked at the post from FFL 
with Thunderbird.

Try this link to encode your images and insert them as HTML (it's in the 
Thunderbird menu under Insert).

http://webcodertools.com/imagetobase64converter

Dragging and dropping the image also works with Thunderbird so you can 
actually skip the converter but it won't show on FFL either.

On 11/10/2013 07:43 AM, Richard Williams wrote:

> The method is called "Base64" and it is the picture data encoded
> as ASCII text which the browser or email client will turn back into
> a picture.  This is so no binary attachment needs to be included.
>
It's complicated.

Snipped ...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is pain a barrier to TM?

In my "non TM" tantric tradition, if something interferes with 
meditation then it is not worth taking time to meditate as the 
meditation will be unproductive unless for some reason it mitigates the 
pain.   Is this pain chronic or seasonal? Where is it located?  Lower 
back pain can indicate irritated kidneys especially if you drink too 
much coffee but you're a UK tea drinker, right?


On 11/09/2013 06:22 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


I mentioned on a recent thread that I've got back pain at the moment. 
(A rarity for me.) Actually "pain" is way too strong a word - it's 
just an irritating ache which lasts all day but I don't notice it when 
I'm distracted - or when I do my TM session.



What I wanted to ask was: is it the case that those suffering from 
*chronic* pain (the kind of pain that even pain-killers can't 
completely eradicate) can still practise TM? Does anyone have any 
experience of that situation?

[FairfieldLife] RE: Surrogates in India

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 10:40 AM, "jr_esq@..." wrote:

Share,

It's a tough question for couples answer whether it's ethical or not to use a
surrogate. But the most immediate concern for them is to have a baby.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:19 PM, "jr_esq@..." wrote:

That probably cost them about $100,000 since it was done here in the US.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

A rich friend did that with their second child because the wife had a hard
time carrying the first one. They used a US surrogate though.

On 11/08/2013 11:56 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote:

They're apparently becoming a thriving business in the country, and have
become the solution for infertile couples in the US and elsewhere in the world.

One wonders about the ethics regarding this practice.

http://gma.yahoo.com/infertile-americans-india-gestational-surrogates-111533378--abc-news-health.html

[FairfieldLife] RE: Satya Sai Baba-Godman, or pedafile and charlatan? BBC

2013-11-10 Thread emptybill

Why not a charlatan, pedophile godman?

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjk2NpKMFM 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjk2NpKMFM

[FairfieldLife] RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-10 Thread emptybill

Talk about Oracular ... 

 Buddhadharma asserts anatmam/nairatmya (not-self) rather than ekâtman (one 
self). Why talk to yourself when you already know what you are saying? 
Especially since there is no "other' to listen. 

 Oh yeah, all is one and one is none ... yada yada.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Re "Take the so-called "Bodhisattva Vow." Essentially, it is declaring to 
oneself and to the world one's intention to not allow oneself to become 
enlightened oneself until all sentient beings are enlightened.":  

 There is only the One Self - so there are no "others"! To become enlightened 
is to realise that truth and therefore to see that there is no one who is *not* 
enlightened and so no one who needs to be enlightened!

  "Subhuti, it is just the same when a disciple speaks of liberating numberless 
sentient beings. If they have in mind any arbitrary conception of sentient 
beings or of definite numbers, then they are unworthy of being called a 
disciple. Subhuti, my teachings reveal that even such a thing as is called a 
'disciple' is non-existent. Furthermore, there is really nothing for a disciple 
to liberate."  "A true disciple knows that there is no such thing as a self, a 
person, a living being, or a universal self. A true disciple knows that all 
things are devoid of selfhood, devoid of any separate individuality." DIAMOND 
SUTRA

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Alert! Alert! Now it can be told. 

 What I think is "hard-wired" into the human psyche is
 ego, and hubris, and that's what I think is at the root of
 such goals, noble as they may seem.

However, such a post is NOT "the result of ego and hubris"
but is an oracular advent naturally appearing in the universe. 

I'm in awe!

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Michael Jackson wrote:
 >
 > just hard-wired into the con artists who claim to be able to do it.

 I am less harsh than you are, Michael, in that I suspect
 a lot of people who have such laudable goals "mean well,"
 at least at the beginning.

 What I think is "hard-wired" into the human psyche is
 ego, and hubris, and that's what I think is at the root of
 such goals, noble as they may seem.

 Take the so-called "Bodhisattva Vow." Essentially, it is
 declaring to oneself and to the world one's intention to
 not allow oneself to become enlightened oneself until
 all sentient beings are enlightened. Sounds good on
 the surface, but step back for a moment and consider
 the HUBRIS of such a statement.

 To make it, you have to believe 1) that you have the
 *ability* to help bring all beings to enlightenment
 (can't get more hubristic than that), 2) that it is your
 *right* to modify these sentient beings life in accord
 with how you think they should be, and 3) that the
 universe actually gives a shit what you believe or
 what you "vow."

 Maharishi's quote below is in the same ballpark IMO.
 What gives him the *right* to define what "fully-
 developed citizens" are. Are they "people who meditate?"
 Do they include the toadies in the organization he
 founded who can only do what they're told, *whatever*
 they're told (like smuggling money across international
 borders)?

 IMO, one should always be wary of overly lofty goals.
 They are often trotted out for their "Wow factor," and
 to *distract* people from the here-and-now daily
 activities of those who profess them.

 As one spiritual teacher used to say, "Listen to what
 people say, but watch what they DO." After he gave
 this dictum to his students as a "rule of thumb," he
 was probably more surprised than anyone else when
 they started leaving in droves, after realizing that he
 failed to "walk his own talk."

 > 
 > On Fri, 11/8/13, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote:
 >
 > So far, on the mat and counted out. This is
 > pretty much the goal of every organisation that wants to
 > better the world. Interesting that the dire situation at
 > hand never seems to get resolved. I suspect most religions
 > began with such laudable goals in mind. Could it be that
 > this inability to fulfill such a goal is hard-wired into the
 > universe?
 >
 > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 > dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 >
 >"We will count ourselves
 > successful only when the problems of today's world are
 > substantially
 > reduced and eventually eliminated and the educational
 > institutions of
 > every country are capable of producing fully developed
 > citizens."
 >
 > -Maharishi, from the
 > founding catalog of Maharishi International University,
 > 1974
 >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Let's see if this works

2013-11-10 Thread Richard Williams

> The method is called "Base64" and it is the picture data encoded
> as ASCII text which the browser or email client will turn back into
> a picture.  This is so no binary attachment needs to be included.
>
It's complicated.



On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

>  Your prairie dog picture isn't really embedded as part of the post
> because it is a link to the picture on your site.  My picture is embedded
> in the post as code.  Usually with Thunderbird and HTML is enabled there is
> a button that says "Show Remote Content" but with Empty's post the other
> day it showed a picture without that button being clicked.  I checked the
> email source and it was encoded in the post (or email).  The method is
> called "Base64" and it is the picture data encoded as ASCII text which the
> browser or email client will turn back into a picture.  This is so no
> binary attachment needs to be included.  You can look up the technique on
> the web.  I had to implement it recently for a client who wanted to send
> out emails with images embedded.
>
> These techniques didn't used to work with Yahoo Groups so they are opening
> things up a bit but perhaps sorting out how to make it work which may be
> why it sometimes does and sometimes doesn't.  I'm crossing my fingers but
> they appear to have Yahoo News with the Neo interface keeping the selected
> location (they got all kinds of complaints about that).
>
>
> On 11/08/2013 02:09 PM, Richard Williams wrote:
>
>
>  Prairie dog herbivore - genus Cynomys.
>
>  [image: Inline image 1]
>
>
>  On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
>>  Three big pigs:
>>
>>
>>
>
>
<>

[FairfieldLife] Satya Sai Baba-Godman, or pedafile and charlatan? BBC

2013-11-10 Thread wgm4u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjk2NpKMFM 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjk2NpKMFM

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pope's Nose (test)

2013-11-10 Thread Richard Williams

Pope Clown:




On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 9:14 AM,  wrote:

>
>
>  
>

[FairfieldLife] The Pope's Nose (test)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Who's Going to Win the Miss Universe 2013 Contest?

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Some examples, for me, of believable women (visually).
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  Ann,
 

 How do you define a real woman using your criteria?  By the way, there are 
many people who watch the Miss Universe contest.  I happen to be interested in 
it for reasons that you can probably guess.  But I didn't watch the show 
tonight.  I just read the news on the internet and passed it along to the group 
in case anyone is interested in this kind of activity.
 

 I LIKE the fact that you watch the Miss Universe contest Jr (or at least keep 
tabs on the front runners) - you are an anomaly in my book and you are honest 
enough to admit you like to look at the beautiful specimens of what some of the 
world has come to think of as "women". Probably more than a few of the men here 
would not like to admit this might be a guilty pleasure for them (not because 
there is anything wrong with oogling these beauty queens but most would like to 
think of themselves above such superficiality).
 

 Defining a "real woman" would take too long here but to answer specifically 
what I think is unreal about the images of these women (who are real enough 
underneath the patina of fake tans, gobs of makeup and hair gel) is a bit 
easier. It is the images, the actual renderings and presentation of these 
people that is unreal. The photographs are so airbrushed and shopped that they 
become plastic looking and without a drop of red blood anywhere in evidence 
coursing through these women's veins. The unrealness is that everyone knows 
that no one actually looks like this and it makes me laugh a bit, that's all. 
It is so patently artificial and is somehow thought to represent the pinnacle 
of beauty. The images presented to the public via these photos is very like the 
computer-generated characters in films like "Toy Story" and more recent ones of 
that genre whose names escape me at the moment. While they might resemble human 
beings enough as to be recognizable as such ultimately, if one were to wake up 
and look at the body lying next to you and they looked flawless like that, it 
would give one quite a start - and not in a good way.
 

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Thanks for the update but this specimen still doesn't quite look like a real 
woman to me. I wouldn't have pegged you for a watcher of the Miss Universe 
contest Jr.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Buck and Ann,
 

 The winner this year is Miss Venezuela.  Doesn't she look like Raquel Welch?
 

 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html
 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html

 

 I personally feel that this is a news worthy event.  Why would anyone think 
otherwise? 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 So it would be good, to have better writing and more self-editing on FFL. 
 
 -Buck   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Miss USA has a good chance.  It all depends on what she says in the Q and A 
portion of the contest.  But the competition will be tough this year. 

 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg
 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg

[FairfieldLife] RE: Who's Going to Win the Miss Universe 2013 Contest?

 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  Ann,
 

 How do you define a real woman using your criteria?  By the way, there are 
many people who watch the Miss Universe contest.  I happen to be interested in 
it for reasons that you can probably guess.  But I didn't watch the show 
tonight.  I just read the news on the internet and passed it along to the group 
in case anyone is interested in this kind of activity.
 

 I LIKE the fact that you watch the Miss Universe contest Jr (or at least keep 
tabs on the front runners) - you are an anomaly in my book and you are honest 
enough to admit you like to look at the beautiful specimens of what some of the 
world has come to think of as "women". Probably more than a few of the men here 
would not like to admit this might be a guilty pleasure for them (not because 
there is anything wrong with oogling these beauty queens but most would like to 
think of themselves above such superficiality).
 

 Defining a "real woman" would take too long here but to answer specifically 
what I think is unreal about the images of these women (who are real enough 
underneath the patina of fake tans, gobs of makeup and hair gel) is a bit 
easier. It is the images, the actual renderings and presentation of these 
people that is unreal. The photographs are so airbrushed and shopped that they 
become plastic looking and without a drop of red blood anywhere in evidence 
coursing through these women's veins. The unrealness is that everyone knows 
that no one actually looks like this and it makes me laugh a bit, that's all. 
It is so patently artificial and is somehow thought to represent the pinnacle 
of beauty. The images presented to the public via these photos is very like the 
computer-generated characters in films like "Toy Story" and more recent ones of 
that genre whose names escape me at the moment. While they might resemble human 
beings enough as to be recognizable as such ultimately, if one were to wake up 
and look at the body lying next to you and they looked flawless like that, it 
would give one quite a start - and not in a good way.
 

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Thanks for the update but this specimen still doesn't quite look like a real 
woman to me. I wouldn't have pegged you for a watcher of the Miss Universe 
contest Jr.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Buck and Ann,
 

 The winner this year is Miss Venezuela.  Doesn't she look like Raquel Welch?
 

 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html
 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html

 

 I personally feel that this is a news worthy event.  Why would anyone think 
otherwise? 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 So it would be good, to have better writing and more self-editing on FFL. 
 
 -Buck   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Miss USA has a good chance.  It all depends on what she says in the Q and A 
portion of the contest.  But the competition will be tough this year. 

 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg
 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg

[FairfieldLife] RE: Is pain a barrier to TM?

How are your kidneys doing? Kidney inflammation and/or infection can cause that 
sort of back pain. Might be worthwhile to check with your physician.
 

 I don't have any experience of meditating with chronic pain, but the checking 
notes have a section on pain during meditation (which you wouldn't have heard 
unless you had asked about it). Bottom line, it shouldn't keep one from 
meditating. Perhaps one of the teachers here would elaborate.
 

 Obviously, though, if the pain is due to a treatable condition, the priority 
is to get treatment for it.
 

Seraphita wrote;
 
 > I mentioned on a recent thread that I've got back pain at the moment. (A 
 > rarity for 
 > me.) Actually "pain" is way too strong a word - it's just an irritating ache 
 > which lasts 
 > all day but I don't notice it when I'm distracted - or when I do my TM 
 > session.  >
 > What I wanted to ask was: is it the case that those suffering from *chronic* 
 > pain (the 
 > kind of pain that even pain-killers can't completely eradicate) can still 
 > practise TM? 
 > Does anyone have any experience of that situation?

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Not just the U.S.

Just for the record, my original point in this discussion has gotten lost. It
was not about comparative IQ of right vs. left in the United States. In its
original context, the term "stupid" did not refer to low IQ. An example of
"stupidity" in this context would be the Tea Party in Congress shutting down
the government. I don't think many of us here would have any problem calling
this behavior "stupid"--not necessarily in the sense of low IQ but rather in
the sense of, e.g., foolish, futile, ill-advised, senseless, shortsighted.
Perfectly intelligent people, even high-IQ people, may be guilty of behavior
that could be so characterized.

The article Barry posted that started this discussion blamed such behavior on
the evangelical religious views of many in the Tea Party (his thread title was
"We Have a Dumb Religion Problem -- Not a Political Problem"). I disagreed; see
my post here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/362716
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/362716

My point was that the religion isn't "dumb"; rather, these religionists are
"dumb" (again, in the senses I listed above, not in terms of low IQ). It's not
impossible there's a relationship between "dumb" in these senses and lower IQ,
but that's a different issue, one I wasn't addressing. It's the anti-religion
bias that concerns me. Frankly, I think that's "dumb."

Share wrote:
> Interesting research with conflicting findings about the relationship bt
> intelligence and
> whether one holds moderate or extreme political views.
> http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/201305/intelligence-and-
>
> http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/201305/intelligence-and-politics-have-complex-relationship
> politics-have-complex-relationship
> http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/201305/intelligence-and-politics-have-complex-relationship

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 10:00 PM, "authfriend@..."
wrote:

Jeez. Sure there's some inflexibility on both sides, but the mindsets that
are inflexible are different. Xenophobia, e.g., is part of that mindset on the
right, but not on the left. And I'd say xenophobia is very much a self-centered
viewpoint.

As to stupidity, my point, in response to the article Barry posted, was that
to the degree that right-wingers are stupid, it's not because their religion is
stupid, contrary to what the author claimed. That's why I posted the statement
from the National Evangelical Association, which is clearly not stupid.

Here in this country, we've been trying to talk to the right for a couple of
decades now, and the bullheaded resistance from the far end of the spectrum has
only gotten worse. Political debate with them has long since become pointless.
Even the Republican establishment has become disturbed by it, according to the
NYTimes article I linked to. I don't know what the answer is, but talking
doesn't do any good if the people you're talking to aren't listening.

It looks like the exercise of political muscle by the non-Tea Party
Republicans--withholding support, financial and otherwise, from the extremist
candidates--is the only viable approach. If they can't get elected, they can't
do as much damage. Goodness knows the establishment Republicans are no picnic,
but they aren't crazy-stupid.

And we can't give in to the threat of violence by catering to the extremists.
They have to be opposed and politically marginalized, neutralized.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

"My point was that stupidity is a characteristic of right-wingers . . . The
stupidity has much more to do with a certain inflexible and self-centred
mindset":

Come on! The inflexible mindset is a characteristic shared across the
political spectrum - left, right, centre. And there have, on occasion, been
highly intelligent people on both sides of the left-right divide. On the right,
I'd mention Ezra Pound and Céline. Both were highly articulate - but both were
full-on anti-Semites and it's that xenophobia (rather than the stupidity) of
the right that is the more worrying issue to me.

The trouble with dismissing your political opponents as stupid is that, if
true, they are clearly not worth wasting time talking to. And once political
debate becomes pointless people feel justified in turning to violence.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

Of course there are no one-to-one correspondences between right wings, just
some strong similarities on specific issues (in the case of the U.S. and
Europe, the biggie with their right wings seems to be immigration, especially
Muslim immigration). As the article Barry cited points out, the specific issues
the U.S. right wing is fixated on are mostly not theological (abortion and
homosexuality being the major exceptions).

My point was that stupidity is a c

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Who's Going to Win the Miss Universe 2013 Contest?

2013-11-10 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Needs more explication.  So, is Hunter Tyllo a meditator?   Relevance to FFL?
 What is this even doing on FFL?
 Jeezus folks this is some realy lame material -ism.
 Firing up the stove now for Quaker Meeting this morning,
 -Buck 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Looks to me quite a lot like Hunter Tylo (e.g. Dr. Taylor Hayes of the Bold 
and the Beautiful!) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 John, when you posted the Miss USA photo I thought, she'll never win, she's 
not exotic looking enough. Exotic seems to be the current preference. Just like 
other aspects of visual beauty that go in and out of style, like skirt lengths 
and car colors and architecture, so too does the ideal of human beauty. 

 

 Men are hard wired to be attracted by physical beauty. In cave times flawless 
skin etc. were unconsciously grokked signs that a potential mate would bear 
healthy children. You've mentioned wanting to get married and have children so 
it's natural that you would pay attention to these attributes. 

 

 PS Maybe you have Venus in the 7th? (-:  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  Ann,
 

 How do you define a real woman using your criteria?  By the way, there are 
many people who watch the Miss Universe contest.  I happen to be interested in 
it for reasons that you can probably guess.  But I didn't watch the show 
tonight.  I just read the news on the internet and passed it along to the group 
in case anyone is interested in this kind of activity.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Thanks for the update but this specimen still doesn't quite look like a real 
woman to me. I wouldn't have pegged you for a watcher of the Miss Universe 
contest Jr.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Buck and Ann,
 

 The winner this year is Miss Venezuela.  Doesn't she look like Raquel Welch?
 

 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html
 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html

 

 I personally feel that this is a news worthy event.  Why would anyone think 
otherwise? 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 So it would be good, to have better writing and more self-editing on FFL. 
 
 -Buck   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Miss USA has a good chance.  It all depends on what she says in the Q and A 
portion of the contest.  But the competition will be tough this year. 

 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg
 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Not just the U.S.

Interesting research with conflicting findings about the relationship bt
intelligence and whether one holds moderate or extreme political views.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/201305/intelligence-and-politics-have-complex-relationship

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 10:00 PM, "authfri...@yahoo.com"
wrote:

Jeez. Sure there's some inflexibility on both sides, but the mindsets that are
inflexible are different. Xenophobia, e.g., is part of that mindset on the
right, but not on the left. And I'd say xenophobia is very much a self-centered
viewpoint.

As to stupidity, my point, in response to the article Barry posted, was that to
the degree that right-wingers are stupid, it's not because their religion is
stupid, contrary to what the author claimed. That's why I posted the statement
from the National Evangelical Association, which is clearly not stupid.

And we can't give in to the threat of violence by catering to the extremists.
They have to be opposed and politically marginalized, neutralized.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

"My point was that stupidity is a characteristic of right-wingers . . . The
stupidity has much more to do with a certain inflexible and self-centred
mindset":

Come on! The inflexible mindset is a characteristic shared across the political
spectrum - left, right, centre. And there have, on occasion, been highly
intelligent people on both sides of the left-right divide. On the right, I'd
mention Ezra Pound and Céline. Both were highly articulate - but both were
full-on anti-Semites and it's that xenophobia (rather than the stupidity) of
the right that is the more worrying issue to me.

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

My point was that stupidity is a characteristic of the right-wingers, not their
religion per se. The religion itself is almost incidental. The stupidity has
much more to do with a certain inflexible and self-centered mindset, so the
fact that other countries' right wings aren't religious is basically irrelevant.

Seraphita wrote:

Something I wanted to add. Re "it seems like the U.S. isn't the only country
that has problems with its right wing.":
You are, no doubt, well aware that no other country has a right-wing voting
bloc like your US right? The whole "religious-right" cause has zero appeal
elsewhere - except in Islamic republics ;-)
And the tiny-state, full-on, free-market capitalism approach is probably these
days only advocated in the Far East - Hong Kong, Singapore, . . .

All the right-wing parties in Europe are pro-welfare state parties - and the
further to the right they are, the more welfarism they support. They are
basically "national" socialist parties - but no one wants to invade other
countries any more. It would be interesting to find out how many of the
policies of Euro rightists would be to the left of your Democrats!

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:

Oh, hmmm, it seems like the U.S. isn't the only country that has problems with
its right wing.

>From an article in today's NYTimes entitled, "Right Wing’s Surge in Europe Has
>the Establishment Rattled":

"...All over, established political forces are losing ground to politicians
whom they scorn as fear-mongering populists. In France, according to a recent
opinion poll, the far-right National Front has become the country’s most
popular party. In other countries — Austria, Britain, Bulgaria, the Czech
Republic, Finland and the Netherlands — disruptive ups

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Who's Going to Win the Miss Universe 2013 Contest?

2013-11-10 Thread cardemaister

Looks to me quite a lot like Hunter Tylo (e.g. Dr. Taylor Hayes of the Bold and 
the Beautiful!) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 John, when you posted the Miss USA photo I thought, she'll never win, she's 
not exotic looking enough. Exotic seems to be the current preference. Just like 
other aspects of visual beauty that go in and out of style, like skirt lengths 
and car colors and architecture, so too does the ideal of human beauty. 

 

 Men are hard wired to be attracted by physical beauty. In cave times flawless 
skin etc. were unconsciously grokked signs that a potential mate would bear 
healthy children. You've mentioned wanting to get married and have children so 
it's natural that you would pay attention to these attributes. 

 

 PS Maybe you have Venus in the 7th? (-:  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  Ann,
 

 How do you define a real woman using your criteria?  By the way, there are 
many people who watch the Miss Universe contest.  I happen to be interested in 
it for reasons that you can probably guess.  But I didn't watch the show 
tonight.  I just read the news on the internet and passed it along to the group 
in case anyone is interested in this kind of activity.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Thanks for the update but this specimen still doesn't quite look like a real 
woman to me. I wouldn't have pegged you for a watcher of the Miss Universe 
contest Jr.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Buck and Ann,
 

 The winner this year is Miss Venezuela.  Doesn't she look like Raquel Welch?
 

 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html
 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html

 

 I personally feel that this is a news worthy event.  Why would anyone think 
otherwise? 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 So it would be good, to have better writing and more self-editing on FFL. 
 
 -Buck   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Miss USA has a good chance.  It all depends on what she says in the Q and A 
portion of the contest.  But the competition will be tough this year. 

 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg
 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Who's Going to Win the Miss Universe 2013 Contest?

2013-11-10 Thread sharelong60

John, when you posted the Miss USA photo I thought, she'll never win, she's not 
exotic looking enough. Exotic seems to be the current preference. Just like 
other aspects of visual beauty that go in and out of style, like skirt lengths 
and car colors and architecture, so too does the ideal of human beauty. 

 

 Men are hard wired to be attracted by physical beauty. In cave times flawless 
skin etc. were unconsciously grokked signs that a potential mate would bear 
healthy children. You've mentioned wanting to get married and have children so 
it's natural that you would pay attention to these attributes. 

 

 PS Maybe you have Venus in the 7th? (-:  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

  Ann,
 

 How do you define a real woman using your criteria?  By the way, there are 
many people who watch the Miss Universe contest.  I happen to be interested in 
it for reasons that you can probably guess.  But I didn't watch the show 
tonight.  I just read the news on the internet and passed it along to the group 
in case anyone is interested in this kind of activity.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Thanks for the update but this specimen still doesn't quite look like a real 
woman to me. I wouldn't have pegged you for a watcher of the Miss Universe 
contest Jr.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Buck and Ann,
 

 The winner this year is Miss Venezuela.  Doesn't she look like Raquel Welch?
 

 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html
 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html

 

 I personally feel that this is a news worthy event.  Why would anyone think 
otherwise? 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 So it would be good, to have better writing and more self-editing on FFL. 
 
 -Buck   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Miss USA has a good chance.  It all depends on what she says in the Q and A 
portion of the contest.  But the competition will be tough this year. 

 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg
 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg

Re: [FairfieldLife] You Don’t Have To Be Perfect – The Value Of Kindness to Yourself

Thank you for this post Martin. At one time Ben-Shahar's course on happiness 
was the most popular one at Harvard. 





On Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:40 AM, "martin.quick...@yahoo.co.uk" 
 wrote:
 
  
When the Dalai Lama and some of his followers began to work with
Western scientists, they were surprised to find that self-esteem was
an issue, that so many Westerners did not love themselves and that
self-hate was pervasive. 


read more here:

http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/you-dont-have-to-be-perfect-the-value-of-kindness/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is pain a barrier to TM?

Seraphita, first, to be practical: when I was having spasms a few years ago, I 
got the Bad Back Book. The author highly recommends the Cat Camel asana for 
back problems. In my experience, sometimes pain overshadows meditation and 
sometimes it doesn't. It's a bit unpredictable but I tend to follow common 
sense with regards to diet and sleep to keep my body healthy on a basic level. 
Then extra challenges of pain and or germs are not so difficult. Hope this 
helps.





On Saturday, November 9, 2013 8:22 PM, "s3raph...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
I mentioned on a recent thread that I've got back pain at the moment. (A rarity 
for me.) Actually "pain" is way too strong a word - it's just an irritating 
ache which lasts all day but I don't notice it when I'm distracted - or when I 
do my TM session. 

What I wanted to ask was: is it the case that those suffering from *chronic* 
pain (the kind of pain that even pain-killers can't completely eradicate) can 
still practise TM? Does anyone have any experience of that situation?

Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Surrogates in India