[FairfieldLife] Adventures of James Potkukelkka, part 1

2014-01-09 Thread cardemaister
James Potkukelkka (potku-kelkka = kick sled) and a Romani (gypsy man),
calling for help (apua, apuva):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WwKbMrtXNI 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WwKbMrtXNI

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: "If Another Country Was Doing This To Our Kids, Wed Be At War"

2014-01-09 Thread steve.sundur


 And yet you have had experiences that you would put in the spiritual category, 
IIRC.  And I think I have as well.  If I had a technique now, it would be to 
pretty much ignore those experiences if they come about, and even push back 
against them somewhat, to see if they continue to assert themselves.  And it 
has been interesting to see what sticks around, and what goes away.  Not to be 
too cryptic about it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 You know, I do appreciate your views on this. I too used to be a starry eyed 
TM fanatic who absolutely believed that TM was the answer to everything (even 
though it obviously was not, as I saw and ignored especially when I was living 
in Fairfield and working on staff at MIU.)
 
 After that I rubbed elbows with a vast number of people all of whom engaged in 
various sorts of alternative spiritual endeavors - everything from Sedona folks 
who banged on a Native American drum every time the moon showed a sliver of 
itself in the night sky, to folks who believed the "Galactics" were gonna come 
down at jst the right time and save us all, to the wiccans most of whom 
have no idea where wicca actually comes from, to people who claim to have the 
inside track to God, to those who are determined warriors on the war path with 
all things tech and money based and on and on. 
 
 If only I had known about UG Krishnamurti in those days a talk or two from him 
might have saved me a lot of time.
 
 These days I feel that about 90% of all this new agey spiritual doings is 
about as much use as tits on a bo' hawg. That is southern slang for a male hog, 
a boar.
 
 Not that there is not some use in what all spiritually minded folks do but 
most of it just seems designed, albeit unconsciously, just to make us feel 
better. And that is all it does, it makes us feel better emotionally, even 
though our lives suck. And what better way to feel better than to believe our 
very special and wonderful chosen path will lead to some sort of salvation for 
all humanity. 
 
 Its good to feel good, but when I see that most of the practitioners of all 
this new agey stuff are STILL unhappy, still unhealthy, still un-wealthy and 
still having crappy relationships, I see that even with the practices, beliefs, 
icons and things and people to follow it doesn't seem to do the trick except 
that we fool ourselves into believing if we stay on the path, we will 
eventually get to where we want to be (really happy).
 
 As Edg would say "Bah!"
 
 On Fri, 1/10/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: "If Another Country Was Doing This To Our 
Kids, Wed Be At War"
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, January 10, 2014, 3:24 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks for your comments.  (I wish I could
 still do the interspersing)
 I've been reflecting on
 how my outlook has changed over time.  
 From being an energetic foot
 soldier in Maharishi's Army confident I could change the
 world, to having now a much more sober vision of how things
 really are.  And I thank God for that more sober
 outlook.
 And although I'm afraid
 to say that the opposing forces, broadly defined as
 materialism, are going to prevail, there are still going to
 be many inroads made by those of a more spiritual
 bent. 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Remarks
 below.
 
 
 
 On 01/08/2014 06:51 PM, steve.sundur@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=CLDgDxHNu1oC&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1
 
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=CLDgDxHNu1oC&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1
 
 
 
 
 
 I listened to several
 interviews with this guy.
 
 
 
 Among the things he
 writes about is that income disparity is
 pretty much
 here to stay.  But instead of 1% and
 the rest, it is
 more likely to be about 15% who have
 resources, with
 most everyone else just scraping
 by.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Indeed lots of people I talk to are just scrapping
 by.  A lot of
 people are too proud to admit it though. You have to pry
 sometimes
 to find what their case is.  A lot of the
 unemployed are highly
 educated and have a lot of experience. 
 People's futures have been
 stolen and they should not be depressed, they should be
 downright
 angry.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 He also points out,
 (either correctly or incorrectly) that the
 catalyst for
 social upheavals in the past was because
 people did not
 have enough to eat, and that is not likely
 to be the
 case now.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The riots in Spain and Greece are do to people not being
 able to
 afford food.  Do you do the grocery shopping in the
 family?  

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: "If Another Country Was Doing This To Our Kids, Wed Be At War"

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Jackson
You know, I do appreciate your views on this. I too used to be a starry eyed TM 
fanatic who absolutely believed that TM was the answer to everything (even 
though it obviously was not, as I saw and ignored especially when I was living 
in Fairfield and working on staff at MIU.)

After that I rubbed elbows with a vast number of people all of whom engaged in 
various sorts of alternative spiritual endeavors - everything from Sedona folks 
who banged on a Native American drum every time the moon showed a sliver of 
itself in the night sky, to folks who believed the "Galactics" were gonna come 
down at jst the right time and save us all, to the wiccans most of whom 
have no idea where wicca actually comes from, to people who claim to have the 
inside track to God, to those who are determined warriors on the war path with 
all things tech and money based and on and on. 

If only I had known about UG Krishnamurti in those days a talk or two from him 
might have saved me a lot of time.

These days I feel that about 90% of all this new agey spiritual doings is about 
as much use as tits on a bo' hawg. That is southern slang for a male hog, a 
boar.

Not that there is not some use in what all spiritually minded folks do but most 
of it just seems designed, albeit unconsciously, just to make us feel better. 
And that is all it does, it makes us feel better emotionally, even though our 
lives suck. And what better way to feel better than to believe our very special 
and wonderful chosen path will lead to some sort of salvation for all humanity. 

Its good to feel good, but when I see that most of the practitioners of all 
this new agey stuff are STILL unhappy, still unhealthy, still un-wealthy and 
still having crappy relationships, I see that even with the practices, beliefs, 
icons and things and people to follow it doesn't seem to do the trick except 
that we fool ourselves into believing if we stay on the path, we will 
eventually get to where we want to be (really happy).

As Edg would say "Bah!"

On Fri, 1/10/14, steve.sun...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: "If Another  Country Was Doing This To 
Our Kids, Wed Be At  War"
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, January 10, 2014, 3:24 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Thanks for your comments.  (I wish I could
 still do the interspersing)
 I've been reflecting on
 how my outlook has changed over time.  
 From being an energetic foot
 soldier in Maharishi's Army confident I could change the
 world, to having now a much more sober vision of how things
 really are.  And I thank God for that more sober
 outlook.
 And although I'm afraid
 to say that the opposing forces, broadly defined as
 materialism, are going to prevail, there are still going to
 be many inroads made by those of a more spiritual
 bent. 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote:
 
 
   
 
   
   
 Remarks
 below.
 
   
 
On 01/08/2014 06:51 PM, steve.sundur@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
    
   
   
 
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=CLDgDxHNu1oC&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1
 
 
 
 
 
 I listened to several
 interviews with this guy.
 
 
   
 Among the things he
 writes about is that income disparity is
 pretty much
 here to stay.  But instead of 1% and
 the rest, it is
 more likely to be about 15% who have
 resources, with
 most everyone else just scraping
 by.
   
 
   
 
 
 
 Indeed lots of people I talk to are just scrapping
 by.  A lot of
 people are too proud to admit it though. You have to pry
 sometimes
 to find what their case is.  A lot of the
 unemployed are highly
 educated and have a lot of experience. 
 People's futures have been
 stolen and they should not be depressed, they should be
 downright
 angry.
 
 
 
 
   
 
   
 
 
   
 He also points out,
 (either correctly or incorrectly) that the
 catalyst for
 social upheavals in the past was because
 people did not
 have enough to eat, and that is not likely
 to be the
 case now.
   
 
   
 
 
 
 The riots in Spain and Greece are do to people not being
 able to
 afford food.  Do you do the grocery shopping in the
 family?  Have
 you notice food prices going up faster than the rate of
 inflation? 
 Or food packages getting smaller but still the same
 price?  Or the
 ingredients in something now are cheaper or more fillers
 than when
 you bought the product several years ago?
 

[FairfieldLife] RE: "If Another Country Was Doing This To Our Kids, We’d Be At War"

2014-01-09 Thread s3raphita
Re "the opposing forces, broadly defined as materialism":

 

 Yes, the obsession with money and the status it confers is the only value in 
today's society - or certainly the value that now dominates in both the UK and 
the USA. It's so bloody philistine and degrading and small-minded and has 
triumphed over all the noble ideals that once motivated people. 
 Now given a straight choice between having the latest model Aston Martin or 
not having a car at all I would naturally choose to have the car. I'm not 
denying that having an Aston Martin is a good thing. I'm aware that classy 
luxury cars are beautiful possessions. But I can also see that other values are 
more life-affirming: belonging to a supportive community where people respect 
and value each other is just one example. And I'd happily forsake the car if I 
could live in such a supportive society. But the obsession with material 
possessions and personal status has eroded all competing values until we can 
now all see we are living in a spiritual wasteland where greed is the norm.
 But "materialism" can also refer to a reductive philosophy that explains life 
strictly in scientific and technological terms and has no time for the inner 
life or spiritual discipline. It's surely no coincidence that both types of 
materialism are flourishing in tandem. 
 Current trends will result in such wide divisions between the haves and 
have-nots - compounded by the insufferable arrogance of the rich - that I fear 
serious unrest and violence is inevitable. I can't decide whether serious 
unrest and violence is precisely what we need to break out of the trap or 
whether, on the contrary, we need a spiritual revival from the roots. I suspect 
that both types of upheaval also arise in tandem.
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: "If Another Country Was Doing This To Our Kids, We’d Be At War"

2014-01-09 Thread steve.sundur
Thanks for your comments.  (I wish I could still do the interspersing)
 

 I've been reflecting on how my outlook has changed over time.  
 

 From being an energetic foot soldier in Maharishi's Army confident I could 
change the world, to having now a much more sober vision of how things really 
are.  And I thank God for that more sober outlook.
 

 And although I'm afraid to say that the opposing forces, broadly defined as 
materialism, are going to prevail, there are still going to be many inroads 
made by those of a more spiritual bent. 
 

 

 

 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Remarks below.
 
 On 01/08/2014 06:51 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote:
 
   
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=CLDgDxHNu1oC&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1
 
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=CLDgDxHNu1oC&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1
 
 
 
 I listened to several interviews with this guy.
 
 
 Among the things he writes about is that income disparity is pretty much here 
to stay.  But instead of 1% and the rest, it is more likely to be about 15% who 
have resources, with most everyone else just scraping by.
 
 
 Indeed lots of people I talk to are just scrapping by.  A lot of people are 
too proud to admit it though. You have to pry sometimes to find what their case 
is.  A lot of the unemployed are highly educated and have a lot of experience.  
People's futures have been stolen and they should not be depressed, they should 
be downright angry.
 
 
 
 He also points out, (either correctly or incorrectly) that the catalyst for 
social upheavals in the past was because people did not have enough to eat, and 
that is not likely to be the case now.
 
 
 
 
 The riots in Spain and Greece are do to people not being able to afford food.  
Do you do the grocery shopping in the family?  Have you notice food prices 
going up faster than the rate of inflation?  Or food packages getting smaller 
but still the same price?  Or the ingredients in something now are cheaper or 
more fillers than when you bought the product several years ago?
 
 
 
 Also, technology, being so accessible, is able to provide enough comfort and 
satisfaction so that people will be okay with a lower standard of living.
 
 
 
 
 The last time the US economy was in balance was in the 1970s.  After that it 
started going wacko.  Much of the "prosperity" of the country was based on 
credit and people tricked into buying things they really didn't need.  It's 
like there was a scheme to put everyone in debt.
 
 Yes, technology is one thing that has gotten cheaper.  But people don't need 
to be activists 24/7 so some recreation is fine.  A lot of folks wanted to 
downsize too as they got older but it has been difficult to sell their homes 
and renting something smaller often costs as much as the mortgage they are 
already paying.  It's crazy.
 
 
 
 Another thing said is that stats will continue to drive most decisions.  Just 
as in sports stats have become dominant in measuring every nuance, this will 
continue in one's personal life, determining credit worthiness, and into areas 
not yet so affected in this way.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 And a lot of stats aren't at all, many stats are propaganda.  Be sure to 
consider the source.
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] RE: A Tale Of Two Women: Jasmine and Samantha

2014-01-09 Thread s3raphita
Excellent find! That answers my question.
 

 If you want to see real-life computer girlfriends take a look at this BBC 
documentary in which 40-year-old Japanese men use "Love +" to date teenage 
virtual girlfriends. The relevant six-minute segment runs from 14:49 - 20:49 .
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yil_cn_1gMo 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yil_cn_1gMo



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5
It is time to modernize this Math fragmentation. The committee should chose 
Shankaracharyas on the basis of modern standards of neurophysiology at the 
least. Then also as there is a face value of enough cultivated shakti as like 
saints of old as real luminaries were and then certainly too they should have 
scholarly credentials enough to profess the Knowledge properly in context. 
Modern Shanks proly should pass a board certification exam too as to their 
proficiency in the traditional scriptural literature, to also be objective. At 
least an oral exam if they can't read or write. Shankara and Brahmananda 
Saraswati Guru Dev had these resplendent when they held the Joytirmath.
 -Buck  
 

--- merudanda wrote:
 
 Correction even earlier:

 What you are quoting is  from Wednesday, October 7, 1998 to be precise!see:
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html 
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html
 

 http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html
 BTW
The background of the whole thing of meeting suggestion was about  one 
Sannyasin named Adhokshajananda Tirtha, who called himself the Sankaracharya of 
Puri and seems to were an attempt to resolve the Jyotirmath dispute  by 
removing Swarupananda, Vasudevananda and Madhava Asrama from the seat .
And thereby to have had no other purpose than
1. to create doubt regarding Niscalananda's title at Puri, 
2. thereby strengthening his own claim  being the Puri Sankaracharya
Hope this helps...
See further my prev. post about Indian media.
GOOD MORNING -GOOD NIGHT
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 My dear B.i.D. please allow me to smile a little and ask you do hold your  
non-existing horses- missionary horses you do not have. Have you taken 
Bhairitus warning into account, too?
 

 BTW:What meeting  are you talking about? From where and from whom you got that 
information?
What you are quoting is from 2004 !see:
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html 
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html
 

 [ 2004 came from RJ Das's post, errant no doubt.]  
 

 Checking you weather in Fairfield  22-23°F I do certainly have empathy with 
your desire to go to warm and sunny India for awhile.
 

 How about make a hospital visit  to Phopal lndia its 83°F there  and sunny.  
Girish Chandra Varma, has been shifted to jail hospital Phopal, India because 
of diabetic (he is a diabetic and takes insulin) and  high blood pressure (his 
car will be examined for rape evidence).  

 Prisoner's Hospital is on Jail Road, Jahangirabad Bhopal, Madhya 
Pradesh(little forest-cool and peaceful),  opposite the Motilal Nehru Stadium 
Jahangirabad.
 Close by there is the Madhya Pradesh Tourism's Boat Club on the Upper lake  
not so far from the prison which provides facilities for exciting trips by 
sail, paddle and motorboats. M.P.Police  do have a Horse Riding School and not 
to forget to visit the Nidaan Riding Club its one of the oldest riding club in 
Central India
 

  Bon voyage,  Bon voyage,  you and your delegation of the long-term 
spiritually experienced Maharishi and Brahmananda Saraswati tradition 
meditators of the Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa.

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Yes absolutely, to add real spiritual coherence and depth to matters of 
adjudicating this confliction they really ought to receive a delegation of the 
long-term spiritually experienced Maharishi and Brahmananda Saraswati tradition 
meditators of the Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa.
 
 
 
 The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next. 
 

 snip









[FairfieldLife] RE: A Tale Of Two Women: Jasmine and Samantha

2014-01-09 Thread s3raphita
Excellent find! That answers my question.
 

 If you want to see real-life computer girlfirends take a look at this BBC 
documentray in which 40-year-old Japanese men use "Love +" to date teenage 
virtual girlfriends. The relevant six-minute segment runs from 14:49 - 20:49 .
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yil_cn_1gMo 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yil_cn_1gMo



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread merudanda

 Correction even earlier:

 What you are quoting is  from Wednesday, October 7, 1998 to be precise!see:
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html 
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html
 

 http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html
 BTW
The background of the whole thing of meeting suggestion was about  one 
Sannyasin named Adhokshajananda Tirtha, who called himself the Sankaracharya of 
Puri and seems to were an attempt to resolve the Jyotirmath dispute  by 
removing Swarupananda, Vasudevananda and Madhava Asrama from the seat .
And thereby to have had no other purpose than
1. to create doubt regarding Niscalananda's title at Puri, 
2. thereby strengthening his own claim  being the Puri Sankaracharya
Hope this helps...
See further my prev. post about Indian media.
GOOD MORNING -GOOD NIGHT
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 My dear B.i.D. please allow me to smile a little and ask you do hold your  
non-existing horses- missionary horses you do not have. Have you taken 
Bhairitus warning into account, too?
 

 BTW:What meeting  are you talking about? From where and from whom you got that 
information?
What you are quoting is from 2004 !see:
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html 
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html
 

 Checking you weather in Fairfield  22-23°F I do certainly have empathy with 
your desire to go to warm and sunny India for awhile. 

 How about make a hospital visit  to Phopal lndia its 83°F there  and sunny.  
Girish Chandra Varma, has been shifted to jail hospital Phopal, India because 
of diabetic (he is a diabetic and takes insulin) and  high blood pressure (his 
car will be examined for rape evidence).  

 Prisoner's Hospital is on Jail Road, Jahangirabad Bhopal, Madhya 
Pradesh(little forest-cool and peaceful),  opposite the Motilal Nehru Stadium 
Jahangirabad.
 Close by there is the Madhya Pradesh Tourism's Boat Club on the Upper lake  
not so far from the prison which provides facilities for exciting trips by 
sail, paddle and motorboats. M.P.Police  do have a Horse Riding School and not 
to forget to visit the Nidaan Riding Club its one of the oldest riding club in 
Central India
 

  Bon voyage,  Bon voyage,  you and your delegation of the long-term 
spiritually experienced Maharishi and Brahmananda Saraswati tradition 
meditators of the Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa.

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Yes absolutely, to add real spiritual coherence and depth to matters of 
adjudicating this confliction they really ought to receive a delegation of the 
long-term spiritually experienced Maharishi and Brahmananda Saraswati tradition 
meditators of the Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa.
 
 
 
 The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next. 
 

 snip







Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group Meditations

2014-01-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5
You two are outrageous here. What a couple of anti-science hate filled 
doubters. Did you two doubters flunk science or have you not kept up on the 
weight and substance of the science of coherence generating meditation? And, 
the Global Country of World Peace is all our heritage, we are all citizens of 
the world. We are all in this together. Certainly by the science everyone who 
knows better would be coming to group meditation. Talk about naive, obviously 
you two do not know better and yet persist in your agitation against and 
denying the science of peace which piles up. I am being charitable and kind 
with you. There comes a point where people like you become dangerous to us all. 
. Damned science-ignorant counter-revolutionary ankle-biters who should know 
better. That is just fact. Do something really great for your Self and helpful 
to everyone else whilst you just suck air on earth and git thee to a group 
meditation near you, 
 
 -Buck   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 I do agree with that!
 
 On Thu, 1/9/14, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group 
Meditations
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 4:46 PM
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

 wrote:
 
 Let's not
 forget it was all started as a con by the Big M himself -
 that's why these folk believe in it - cuz he said it wuz
 true - and of course we know he was vetted by Benjy Creme
 himself so he is beyond reproach.
 I think certain
 "folk" believe it because those particular folk
 have a kind of idealism and gullibility that can not be
 faulted for intention but for the simplistic naivete of of
 it. Desiring world peace is not a bad thing but thinking
 that, for all the evidence otherwise, that this ME thing
 works starts to become denial and a sort of lunacy. But
 then, there a lots of lunatics of all sorts who surround us
 that are far scarier.
 
 
 
 On Thu, 1/9/14, awoelflebater@...
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical
 Transcendentalism, A Call to Group Meditations
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 2:36 PM
 

 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Hardly seems
 
 credible that the Global Country of World Peace is at risk
 
 given that it does not exist except as a concept in some
 
 people's minds and given that there have been wars all
 
 over the globe ever since M first began to talk about
 world
 
 peace but whatever.
 
 The Global Country of World
 
 Peace is a fiction in the minds of those who hope for a
 
 better world but are, unfortunately, lacking the skill and
 
 knowledge to make it a better one. I believe it is held by
 
 those who are older, perhaps more desperately idealistic
 and
 
 who have maybe run out of other ideas which could make
 this
 
 world more peaceful and less entropic. It all starts with
 
 yourself and in the dealings with those around you. Start
 
 small, make it all count from how you say "good
 
 morning" to someone to how you give them that last
 kiss
 
 or hug at night.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, 1/9/14,Buck@...
 
 
 
 wrote:
 

 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical
 Transcendentalism,
 
 A Call to Group Meditations

 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 
 
 Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 12:40 PM 
 Brave meditators, you
 
 
 
 have done all we asked you to do, and more than could be
 
 
 
 reasonably
 
 
 
 expected; but your own global country of World Peace is
 at
 
 
 
 stake,
 
 
 
 your partners, families, your homes and all that you hold
 
 
 
 dear. You
 
 
 
 have worn yourselves out with fatigues and hardships of
 
 
 
 waging world
 
 
 
 peace, but we know not how to spare you. If you will
 
 consent
 
 
 
 to stay
 
 
 
 in the Domes only one month longer, you will render that
 
 
 
 service to
 
 
 
 the cause of liberty of all and to your global country of
 
 
 
 world peace
 
 
 
 which you probably never can do under any other
 
 
 
 circumstances. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Buck in the Dome
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Transcendental
 
 
 
 Meditation:
 
 
 
 Crime rate decreased in cities after
 
 
 
 one percent of their populations had begun practicing
 the
 
 
 
 Transcendental Meditation technique. -Editors
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Paper
 
 
 
 98Improved Quality of Life Through The
 
 
 
 Transcendental Meditation Program:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Decreased Crime Rate
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Paper
 
 
 
 98Introduction
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 In 1960 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
 
 
 
 founder of the Transcendental Meditation program,
 
 predicted
 
 
 
 that a
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread merudanda
My dear B.i.D. please allow me to smile a little and ask you do hold your  
non-existing horses- missionary horses you do not have. Have you taken 
Bhairitus warning into account, too?
 

 BTW:What meeting  are you talking about? From where and from whom you got that 
information?
What you are quoting is from 2004 !see:
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html 
http://expressindia.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/19981007/28050544.html
 

 Checking you weather in Fairfield  22-23°F I do certainly have empathy with 
your desire to go to warm and sunny India for awhile. 

 How about make a hospital visit  to Phopal lndia its 83°F there  and sunny.  
Girish Chandra Varma, has been shifted to jail hospital Phopal, India because 
of diabetic (he is a diabetic and takes insulin) and  high blood pressure (his 
car will be examined for rape evidence).  

 Prisoner's Hospital is on Jail Road, Jahangirabad Bhopal, Madhya 
Pradesh(little forest-cool and peaceful),  opposite the Motilal Nehru Stadium 
Jahangirabad.
 Close by there is the Madhya Pradesh Tourism's Boat Club on the Upper lake  
not so far from the prison which provides facilities for exciting trips by 
sail, paddle and motorboats. M.P.Police  do have a Horse Riding School and not 
to forget to visit the Nidaan Riding Club its one of the oldest riding club in 
Central India
 

  Bon voyage,  Bon voyage,  you and your delegation of the long-term 
spiritually experienced Maharishi and Brahmananda Saraswati tradition 
meditators of the Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Yes absolutely, to add real spiritual coherence and depth to matters of 
adjudicating this confliction they really ought to receive a delegation of the 
long-term spiritually experienced Maharishi and Brahmananda Saraswati tradition 
meditators of the Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa.
 
 
 
 The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next. 
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Jackson
Not that any TB'ers give a crap what I think, but I guarantee you these guys 
who claim to be Shankaracharya would not give a shit what you or anyone else 
would think say or do coming from Fairfield or anywhere else.

Take the halos off these guys you have put on them just because they are Indian 
and wear a certain kind of robe and because they claim to have some 
knowledge/energy. Look at how they function, how they behave. Since the day 
Guru Dev kicked the bucket these guys have behaved like a bunch of five year 
olds fighting over the last cookie on the plate.

If any of them were really worthy to have the title, they would not behave the 
way they have been these last 60 years or so. All they give a damn about is the 
title and the money and perks it brings. All they want is to be able to sit on 
their asses, pontificate and have everyone treat them like they are God, 
collect up the money, prestige and praise. 

None of 'em are worth a shit. Physically fighting to be first in the Ganges at 
the Kumba Mela Fuck!

On Thu, 1/9/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 8:42 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Yes
 absolutely, to add real spiritual coherence and depth to
 matters of
 adjudicating this confliction they really ought to receive a
 delegation of the long-term spiritually experienced
 Maharishi and
 Brahmananda Saraswati tradition meditators of the Holy
 Tradition from
 Fairfield, Iowa.
 
 
 
 The
 crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in
 February
 next. 
 
 
 Evidently
 this should not be left to Indians alone to satisfy this
 large
 spiritual work. 
 
 
 Om,
 the crucial meeting?  To help with this they should receive
 a
 delegation of TM'ers.   A delegation of long-term
 spiritually
 experienced meditators of the Holy Tradition from Fairfield,
 Iowa.   
 
 
 
 
 The
 crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in
 February
 next. 
 
 
 
 The
 Competing Shankaracharyas . . 
 
 
 
 Aggregating what we know:
 
 
 NEW
 DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider goal of unifying the
 Hindu
 society, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) has embarked on its
 most
 arduous task yet -- that of bringing some semblance of order
 to the
 institution of Shankaracharyas.
-Indian
 Express
 -http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369812
 
 
 
 
 The
 last Kumbh festival of this century is over, but not the war
 between
 the Shankaracharyas of Jyotipeeth here. There are three of
 them
 claiming that seat, established by Adi Shankaracharya who,
 in the
 eighth century, walked all the way from his village Kalari,
 in
 Kerala, to the Himalayas to meditate under a mulberry tree
 here to
 obtain enlightenment, bring to an end through discourse the
 influence
 and control of Buddhism on the life of the Indian people and
 revive
 Hinduism.
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/369111
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 The
 history and presence (as well as it's future)of
 Jyotirmatha
 (including  involvement of the heads of the four and
 other
 monasteries of the Daśanāmī orders  to be known as
 Śaṅkarācāryas,  in honor of its founder)was and is
 extremely complicated .But "humanly
 "interesting, -merudanda
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369798
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 >
 Which ones are our guys?
 >
 Only
 Swami Vasudevananda Sarswati is in the direct line of
 succession
 to 
 Swami
 Brahmanand Saraswati. -Richard
 J Das
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369794
 
 
 
 
 
 To
 summarize, the three competing Jyotirmaṭha lineages in a
 chart: 
 --merudanda
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 "Nine
 years after being charged with criminal
 conspiracy
 . .  sankaracharyas
 Jayendra Saraswathi, 78, and Vijayendra Saraswathi, 44, were
 acquitted   Hindustan
 Times:
  
http://www.hindustantimes.com/kanchi-pontiffs-acquittedhttp://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369749
 
 
 
 'Shankaracharya asked the court: May I
 sit?'The Times of India, November 20, 2004
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/928751.cms
 
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369704
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Maharishi-ji funeral has been arranged according to
 tradition by
 his family,his relatives lit the pyre 
 
 overseen and in patronage of Shankaracharya 
 of Jyotirmaṭha: Vāsudevānanda Sarasvatī 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote:
 
 NEW DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider
 goal o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group Meditations

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Jackson
I do agree with that!

On Thu, 1/9/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group 
Meditations
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 4:46 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote:
 
 Let's not
 forget it was all started as a con by the Big M himself -
 that's why these folk believe in it - cuz he said it wuz
 true - and of course we know he was vetted by Benjy Creme
 himself so he is beyond reproach.
 I think certain
 "folk" believe it because those particular folk
 have a kind of idealism and gullibility that can not be
 faulted for intention but for the simplistic naivete of of
 it. Desiring world peace is not a bad thing but thinking
 that, for all the evidence otherwise, that this ME thing
 works starts to become denial and a sort of lunacy. But
 then, there a lots of lunatics of all sorts who surround us
 that are far scarier.
 
 
 
  On Thu, 1/9/14, awoelflebater@...
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical
 Transcendentalism, A Call to Group Meditations
 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
  Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 2:36 PM
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 

 

 
  
 
  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 
  wrote:
 
  
 
  Hardly seems
 
  credible that the Global Country of World Peace is at risk
 
  given that it does not exist except as a concept in some
 
  people's minds and given that there have been wars all
 
  over the globe ever since M first began to talk about
 world
 
  peace but whatever.
 
  The Global Country of World
 
  Peace is a fiction in the minds of those who hope for a
 
  better world but are, unfortunately, lacking the skill and
 
  knowledge to make it a better one. I believe it is held by
 
  those who are older, perhaps more desperately idealistic
 and
 
  who have maybe run out of other ideas which could make
 this
 
  world more peaceful and less entropic. It all starts with
 
  yourself and in the dealings with those around you. Start
 
  small, make it all count from how you say "good
 
  morning" to someone to how you give them that last
 kiss
 
  or hug at night.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   On Thu, 1/9/14, dhamiltony2k5@...
 
  
 
  wrote:
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical
 Transcendentalism,
 
  A Call to Group Meditations
 
  
 
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
  
 
   Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 12:40 PM
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
    
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
  
 
 Brave meditators, you
 
  
 
   have done all we asked you to do, and more than could be
 
  
 
   reasonably
 
  
 
   expected; but your own global country of World Peace is
 at
 
  
 
   stake,
 
  
 
   your partners, families, your homes and all that you hold
 
  
 
   dear. You
 
  
 
   have worn yourselves out with fatigues and hardships of
 
  
 
   waging world
 
  
 
   peace, but we know not how to spare you. If you will
 
  consent
 
  
 
   to stay
 
  
 
   in the Domes only one month longer, you will render that
 
  
 
   service to
 
  
 
   the cause of liberty of all and to your global country of
 
  
 
   world peace
 
  
 
   which you probably never can do under any other
 
  
 
   circumstances. 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   -Buck in the Dome
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   Transcendental
 
  
 
   Meditation:
 
  
 
   Crime rate decreased in cities after
 
  
 
   one percent  of their populations had begun practicing
 the
 
  
 
   Transcendental Meditation technique.  -Editors
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   Paper
 
  
 
   98Improved Quality of Life Through The
 
  
 
   Transcendental Meditation Program:
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   Decreased Crime Rate
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   Paper
 
  
 
   98Introduction
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   In 1960 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
 
  
 
   founder of the Transcendental Meditation  program,
 
  predicted
 
  
 
   that a
 
  
 
   transition in society toward a more orderly and
 harmonious
 
  
 
   functioning would occur when a small fraction -on the
 
  order
 
  
 
   of one
 
  
 
   percent- of a population practiced the Transcendental
 
  
 
   Meditation
 
  
 
   technique (6), and in December 1974 we found that crime
 
  rate
 
  
 
   did
 
  
 
   decrease in four midwestern U.S. Cities in which one
 
  percent
 
  
 
   of the
 
  
 
   population was practicing the TM technique. 
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
   

[FairfieldLife] RE: Chaga tea?

2014-01-09 Thread cardemaister
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11861833576/in/photostream/

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[FairfieldLife] RE: Chaga tea?

2014-01-09 Thread cardemaister
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11861005875/in/photostream/ 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11861005875/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11861833576/in/photostream/ 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/11861833576/in/photostream/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: "If Another Country W as Doing This To Our Kids, We’d Be At War"

2014-01-09 Thread steve.sundur
Well, perhaps like some others, I felt "This is America, income disparity must 
just be an aberration, that will straighten itself out before too long"  But it 
turns out that it was the middle class that was an aberration, and income 
disparity is here to stay!
 

 No revolts in the street.  Just a kind of acceptance tempered by enough to 
eat, and the comforts that technology can provide.
 

 On the other hand, I think it has been determined that once people have 
achieved a certain amount of wealth, they are considered as happy, (or nearly 
as happy) as those who are considered super rich.
 

 But I didn't really look at the video on hunger that Turq posted, so maybe 
there are other factors afoot that will turn this nice scenario on its head.
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Great info, Steve, especially the part about stats driving the situation and 
how the *haves* might change in quantity.
 

 
 
 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:51 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=CLDgDxHNu1oC&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1
 
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=CLDgDxHNu1oC&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1

 

 I listened to several interviews with this guy.
 

 Among the things he writes about is that income disparity is pretty much here 
to stay.  But instead of 1% and the rest, it is more likely to be about 15% who 
have resources, with most everyone else just scraping by.
 

 He also points out, (either correctly or incorrectly) that the catalyst for 
social upheavals in the past was because people did not have enough to eat, and 
that is not likely to be the case now.
 

 Also, technology, being so accessible, is able to provide enough comfort and 
satisfaction so that people will be okay with a lower standard of living.
 

 Another thing said is that stats will continue to drive most decisions.  Just 
as in sports stats have become dominant in measuring every nuance, this will 
continue in one's personal life, determining credit worthiness, and into areas 
not yet so affected in this way.
 

 I recall being quite impressed with Alvin Toffler's Future Shock.  This has 
that feel to it. (for me at least)
 

 I intend to order and read on my daughter's Kindle.
 

 

 

 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
 
 Posted because I suspect many here might be interested in seeing this film:
 
http://www.upworthy.com/my-favorite-line-from-this-movie-trailer-if-another-country-was-doing-this-to-us-wed-be-at-war
 
http://www.upworthy.com/my-favorite-line-from-this-movie-trailer-if-another-country-was-doing-this-to-us-wed-be-at-war


  




 
 

 
 




 
 
 
 






[FairfieldLife] Re: A Tale Of Two Women: Jasmine and Samantha

2014-01-09 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita wrote:
>
>  I was wondering when I watched the trailer if it would work having a
movie, Him, in which a *woman* falls in love with a computer program . .
.

http://www.movies.com/movie-news/him-spoof-trailer/14604?wssac=164


:-)




[FairfieldLife] YOU ARE INVITED TO NEW YORK TOWN HALL

2014-01-09 Thread nablusoss1008

 YOU ARE INVITED
NEW YORK TOWN HALL
 MEDITATION
CREATIVITY, PERFORMANCE & STRESS TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 11, 2014 
http://townhall.davidlynchfoundation.org/ 
http://townhall.davidlynchfoundation.org/


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Yes absolutely, to add real spiritual coherence and depth to matters of 
adjudicating this confliction they really ought to receive a delegation of the 
long-term spiritually experienced Maharishi and Brahmananda Saraswati tradition 
meditators of the Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa.
 
 
 
 The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next. 
 

 Evidently this should not be left to Indians alone to satisfy this large 
spiritual work.  
 

 Om, the crucial meeting? To help with this they should receive a delegation of 
TM'ers.   A delegation of long-term spiritually experienced meditators of the 
Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa. 
 
 
 
 The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next.  
 


 The Competing Shankaracharyas . . 
 

 
 Aggregating what we know:
 

 
 NEW DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider goal of unifying the Hindu society, 
the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) has embarked on its most arduous task yet -- 
that of bringing some semblance of order to the institution of Shankaracharyas. 
-Indian Express 
-http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369812 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369812 
 

 
 The last Kumbh festival of this century is over, but not the war between the 
Shankaracharyas of Jyotipeeth here. There are three of them claiming that seat, 
established by Adi Shankaracharya who, in the eighth century, walked all the 
way from his village Kalari, in Kerala, to the Himalayas to meditate under a 
mulberry tree here to obtain enlightenment, bring to an end through discourse 
the influence and control of Buddhism on the life of the Indian people and 
revive Hinduism. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/369111 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/369111 
 

 
 

 
 The history and presence (as well as it's future)of Jyotirmatha (including  
involvement of the heads of the four and other monasteries of the Daśanāmī 
orders  to be known as Śaṅkarācāryas,  in honor of its founder)was and is 
extremely complicated .But "humanly "interesting, 
 -merudanda 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369798 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369798 
 

 
 

 
 > Which ones are our guys?
>
Only Swami Vasudevananda Sarswati is in the direct line of succession to 
Swami Brahmanand Saraswati. -Richard J Das
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369794 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369794
 

 
 

 
 To summarize, the three competing Jyotirmaṭha lineages in a chart: --merudanda
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
 

 
 

 
 "Nine years after being charged with criminal conspiracy . .  sankaracharyas 
Jayendra Saraswathi, 78, and Vijayendra Saraswathi, 44, were acquitted 
Hindustan Times: http://www.hindustantimes.com/kanchi-pontiffs-acquitted 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/kanchi-pontiffs-acquitted
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369749 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369749 
 
 
 'Shankaracharya asked the court: May I sit?'
 The Times of India, November 20, 2004
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/928751.cms 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/928751.cms
 
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369704 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369704 
 

 
 
Maharishi-ji funeral has been arranged according to tradition by his family,his 
relatives lit the pyre 
 overseen and in patronage of Shankaracharya  of Jyotirmaṭha: Vāsudevānanda 
Sarasvatī 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
 

 
 
 
 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 NEW DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider goal of unifying the Hindu society, 
the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) has embarked on its most arduous task yet -- 
that of bringing some semblance of order to the institution of Shankaracharyas. 
For the first time, the VHP has convened a meeting of the Kendriya Margdarshak 
Mandal -- its supreme decision-making body -- to frame yardsticks for 
distinguishing ``real'' Shankaracharyas from their pretenders and challengers. 
The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next.
 

 But the VHP's move is likely to face stiff opposition from certain quarters. 
It is unlikely that people like Swami Swaroopanand will endorse it. The 
Shankaracharya of Dwarka has a bitter relationship with the VHP, criticising 
all its moves in the past. The VHP has apparent

[FairfieldLife] Court Rules Monsanto Construction is Unconstitutional in Malvinas, Argentina

2014-01-09 Thread nablusoss1008

 Excellent news from Malvinas Argentina!:
 
http://revolution-news.com/court-rules-monsanto-construction-unconstitutional-malvinas-argentina/
 
http://revolution-news.com/court-rules-monsanto-construction-unconstitutional-malvinas-argentina/


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Evidently this should not be left to Indians alone to satisfy this large 
spiritual work.  
 

 Om, the crucial meeting? To help with this they should receive a delegation of 
TM'ers.   A delegation of long-term spiritually experienced meditators of the 
Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa. 
 
 
 
 The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next.  
 


 The Competing Shankaracharyas . . 
 

 
 Aggregating what we know:
 

 
 NEW DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider goal of unifying the Hindu society, 
the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) has embarked on its most arduous task yet -- 
that of bringing some semblance of order to the institution of Shankaracharyas. 
-Indian Express 
-http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369812 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369812 
 

 
 The last Kumbh festival of this century is over, but not the war between the 
Shankaracharyas of Jyotipeeth here. There are three of them claiming that seat, 
established by Adi Shankaracharya who, in the eighth century, walked all the 
way from his village Kalari, in Kerala, to the Himalayas to meditate under a 
mulberry tree here to obtain enlightenment, bring to an end through discourse 
the influence and control of Buddhism on the life of the Indian people and 
revive Hinduism. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/369111 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/369111 
 

 
 

 
 The history and presence (as well as it's future)of Jyotirmatha (including  
involvement of the heads of the four and other monasteries of the Daśanāmī 
orders  to be known as Śaṅkarācāryas,  in honor of its founder)was and is 
extremely complicated .But "humanly "interesting, 
 -merudanda 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369798 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369798 
 

 
 

 
 > Which ones are our guys?
>
Only Swami Vasudevananda Sarswati is in the direct line of succession to 
Swami Brahmanand Saraswati. -Richard J Das
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369794 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369794
 

 
 

 
 To summarize, the three competing Jyotirmaṭha lineages in a chart: --merudanda
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
 

 
 

 
 "Nine years after being charged with criminal conspiracy . .  sankaracharyas 
Jayendra Saraswathi, 78, and Vijayendra Saraswathi, 44, were acquitted 
Hindustan Times: http://www.hindustantimes.com/kanchi-pontiffs-acquitted 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/kanchi-pontiffs-acquitted
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369749 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369749 
 
 
 'Shankaracharya asked the court: May I sit?'
 The Times of India, November 20, 2004
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/928751.cms 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/928751.cms
 
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369704 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369704 
 

 
 
Maharishi-ji funeral has been arranged according to tradition by his family,his 
relatives lit the pyre 
 overseen and in patronage of Shankaracharya  of Jyotirmaṭha: Vāsudevānanda 
Sarasvatī 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
 

 
 
 
 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 NEW DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider goal of unifying the Hindu society, 
the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) has embarked on its most arduous task yet -- 
that of bringing some semblance of order to the institution of Shankaracharyas. 
For the first time, the VHP has convened a meeting of the Kendriya Margdarshak 
Mandal -- its supreme decision-making body -- to frame yardsticks for 
distinguishing ``real'' Shankaracharyas from their pretenders and challengers. 
The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next.
 

 But the VHP's move is likely to face stiff opposition from certain quarters. 
It is unlikely that people like Swami Swaroopanand will endorse it. The 
Shankaracharya of Dwarka has a bitter relationship with the VHP, criticising 
all its moves in the past. The VHP has apparently been forced to make such a 
move after a spate of cases involving Shankaracharyas, religious heads of the 
Shaivite sect of Hindus, were dragged to various courts. It was also rattled by 
the unsavouryscenes witnessed during the Kumbh Mela held earlier this year at 
Hardwar, in which members of various orders fought among themselves and with 
the police to be the first t

[FairfieldLife] Myths of Mankind: The Mahabharata (Ancient History Documentary)

2014-01-09 Thread nablusoss1008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVxNvquJLBM 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVxNvquJLBM

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Om, the crucial meeting? To help with this they should receive a delegation of 
TM'ers.   A delegation of long-term spiritually experienced meditators of the 
Holy Tradition from Fairfield, Iowa. 
 
 
 
 The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next.  
 


 The Competing Shankaracharyas . . 
 

 
 Aggregating what we know:
 

 
 NEW DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider goal of unifying the Hindu society, 
the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) has embarked on its most arduous task yet -- 
that of bringing some semblance of order to the institution of Shankaracharyas. 
-Indian Express 
-http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369812 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369812 
 

 
 The last Kumbh festival of this century is over, but not the war between the 
Shankaracharyas of Jyotipeeth here. There are three of them claiming that seat, 
established by Adi Shankaracharya who, in the eighth century, walked all the 
way from his village Kalari, in Kerala, to the Himalayas to meditate under a 
mulberry tree here to obtain enlightenment, bring to an end through discourse 
the influence and control of Buddhism on the life of the Indian people and 
revive Hinduism. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/369111 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/369111 
 

 
 

 
 The history and presence (as well as it's future)of Jyotirmatha (including  
involvement of the heads of the four and other monasteries of the Daśanāmī 
orders  to be known as Śaṅkarācāryas,  in honor of its founder)was and is 
extremely complicated .But "humanly "interesting, 
 -merudanda 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369798 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369798 
 

 
 

 
 > Which ones are our guys?
>
Only Swami Vasudevananda Sarswati is in the direct line of succession to 
Swami Brahmanand Saraswati. -Richard J Das
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369794 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369794
 

 
 

 
 To summarize, the three competing Jyotirmaṭha lineages in a chart: --merudanda
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
 

 
 

 
 "Nine years after being charged with criminal conspiracy . .  sankaracharyas 
Jayendra Saraswathi, 78, and Vijayendra Saraswathi, 44, were acquitted 
Hindustan Times: http://www.hindustantimes.com/kanchi-pontiffs-acquitted 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/kanchi-pontiffs-acquitted
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369749 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369749 
 
 
 'Shankaracharya asked the court: May I sit?'
 The Times of India, November 20, 2004
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/928751.cms 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/928751.cms
 
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369704 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369704 
 

 
 
Maharishi-ji funeral has been arranged according to tradition by his family,his 
relatives lit the pyre 
 overseen and in patronage of Shankaracharya  of Jyotirmaṭha: Vāsudevānanda 
Sarasvatī 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
 

 
 
 
 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 NEW DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider goal of unifying the Hindu society, 
the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) has embarked on its most arduous task yet -- 
that of bringing some semblance of order to the institution of Shankaracharyas. 
For the first time, the VHP has convened a meeting of the Kendriya Margdarshak 
Mandal -- its supreme decision-making body -- to frame yardsticks for 
distinguishing ``real'' Shankaracharyas from their pretenders and challengers. 
The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next.
 

 But the VHP's move is likely to face stiff opposition from certain quarters. 
It is unlikely that people like Swami Swaroopanand will endorse it. The 
Shankaracharya of Dwarka has a bitter relationship with the VHP, criticising 
all its moves in the past. The VHP has apparently been forced to make such a 
move after a spate of cases involving Shankaracharyas, religious heads of the 
Shaivite sect of Hindus, were dragged to various courts. It was also rattled by 
the unsavouryscenes witnessed during the Kumbh Mela held earlier this year at 
Hardwar, in which members of various orders fought among themselves and with 
the police to be the first to bathe in the Ganga.
 

 "The multiplicity of these religious heads has the Hindu samaj bewilde

[FairfieldLife] More good news: Tasmania Extends Ban on GM Crops Indefinitely

2014-01-09 Thread nablusoss1008

http://sustainablepulse.com/2014/01/09/tasmania-extends-ban-gm-crops-indefintely/#.Us8CsmeA1PB
 
http://sustainablepulse.com/2014/01/09/tasmania-extends-ban-gm-crops-indefintely/#.Us8CsmeA1PB

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Tale Of Two Women: Jasmine and Samantha

2014-01-09 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
> I've not seen either film but judging by the trailer the character
Jasmine does come across as hard work to be around. Though the fact that
her story is a star role for Cate Blanchett suggests she's interesting
to watch as she goes to pieces.

IMO, only if you enjoy watching train wrecks.

>  Re Her: does Scarlet/Samantha ever fight back? (Wouldn't you want a
mate to be a bitch on occasion?) Samantha is presumably programmed to be
more than obliging and accommodating but to also nudge her companion to
expand his horizons.

No comment. See the movie, and answer the question for yourself.

Hint: If the script had been written as you suggest, would this many
people be talking about it?







[FairfieldLife] Re: Jason's barbell chart

2014-01-09 Thread s3raphita
No


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: "If Another Country Was Doing This To Our Kids, We’d Be At War"

2014-01-09 Thread Bhairitu

Remarks below.

On 01/08/2014 06:51 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:


https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=CLDgDxHNu1oC&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1


I listened to several interviews with this guy.


Among the things he writes about is that income disparity is pretty 
much here to stay.  But instead of 1% and the rest, it is more likely 
to be about 15% who have resources, with most everyone else just 
scraping by.




Indeed lots of people I talk to are just scrapping by.  A lot of people 
are too proud to admit it though. You have to pry sometimes to find what 
their case is.  A lot of the unemployed are highly educated and have a 
lot of experience.  People's futures have been stolen and they should 
not be depressed, they should be downright angry.




He also points out, (either correctly or incorrectly) that the 
catalyst for social upheavals in the past was because people did not 
have enough to eat, and that is not likely to be the case now.




The riots in Spain and Greece are do to people not being able to afford 
food.  Do you do the grocery shopping in the family?  Have you notice 
food prices going up faster than the rate of inflation? Or food packages 
getting smaller but still the same price?  Or the ingredients in 
something now are cheaper or more fillers than when you bought the 
product several years ago?




Also, technology, being so accessible, is able to provide enough 
comfort and satisfaction so that people will be okay with a lower 
standard of living.




The last time the US economy was in balance was in the 1970s.  After 
that it started going wacko.  Much of the "prosperity" of the country 
was based on credit and people tricked into buying things they really 
didn't need.  It's like there was a scheme to put everyone in debt.


Yes, technology is one thing that has gotten cheaper.  But people don't 
need to be activists 24/7 so some recreation is fine.  A lot of folks 
wanted to downsize too as they got older but it has been difficult to 
sell their homes and renting something smaller often costs as much as 
the mortgage they are already paying.  It's crazy.




Another thing said is that stats will continue to drive most 
decisions.  Just as in sports stats have become dominant in measuring 
every nuance, this will continue in one's personal life, determining 
credit worthiness, and into areas not yet so affected in this way.





And a lot of stats aren't at all, many stats are propaganda.  Be sure to 
consider the source.





[FairfieldLife] RE: A Tale Of Two Women: Jasmine and Samantha

2014-01-09 Thread s3raphita
I've not seen either film but judging by the trailer the character Jasmine does 
come across as hard work to be around. Though the fact that her story is a star 
role for Cate Blanchett suggests she's interesting to watch as she goes to 
pieces.
 

 Re Her: does Scarlet/Samantha ever fight back? (Wouldn't you want a mate to be 
a bitch on occasion?) Samantha is presumably programmed to be more than 
obliging and accommodating but to also nudge her companion to expand his 
horizons.
 I was wondering when I watched the trailer if it would work having a movie, 
Him, in which a *woman* falls in love with a computer program . . . 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgxwOJn0Iz8 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgxwOJn0Iz8



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5
The Competing Shankaracharyas . . 
 

 
 Aggregating what we know:
 

 
 NEW DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider goal of unifying the Hindu society, 
the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) has embarked on its most arduous task yet -- 
that of bringing some semblance of order to the institution of Shankaracharyas. 
-Indian Express 
-http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369812 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369812 
 

 
 The last Kumbh festival of this century is over, but not the war between the 
Shankaracharyas of Jyotipeeth here. There are three of them claiming that seat, 
established by Adi Shankaracharya who, in the eighth century, walked all the 
way from his village Kalari, in Kerala, to the Himalayas to meditate under a 
mulberry tree here to obtain enlightenment, bring to an end through discourse 
the influence and control of Buddhism on the life of the Indian people and 
revive Hinduism. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/369111 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/369111 
 

 
 

 
 The history and presence (as well as it's future)of Jyotirmatha (including  
involvement of the heads of the four and other monasteries of the Daśanāmī 
orders  to be known as Śaṅkarācāryas,  in honor of its founder)was and is 
extremely complicated .But "humanly "interesting, 
 -merudanda 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369798 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369798 
 

 
 

 
 > Which ones are our guys?
>
Only Swami Vasudevananda Sarswati is in the direct line of succession to 
Swami Brahmanand Saraswati. -Richard J Das
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369794 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369794
 

 
 

 
 To summarize, the three competing Jyotirmaṭha lineages in a chart: --merudanda
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
 

 
 

 
 "Nine years after being charged with criminal conspiracy . .  sankaracharyas 
Jayendra Saraswathi, 78, and Vijayendra Saraswathi, 44, were acquitted 
Hindustan Times: http://www.hindustantimes.com/kanchi-pontiffs-acquitted 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/kanchi-pontiffs-acquitted
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369749 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369749 
 
 
 'Shankaracharya asked the court: May I sit?'
 The Times of India, November 20, 2004
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/928751.cms 
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/928751.cms
 
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369704 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369704 
 

 
 
Maharishi-ji funeral has been arranged according to tradition by his family,his 
relatives lit the pyre 
 overseen and in patronage of Shankaracharya  of Jyotirmaṭha: Vāsudevānanda 
Sarasvatī 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/369771 
 

 
 
 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 NEW DELHI - In a bid to achieve its wider goal of unifying the Hindu society, 
the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) has embarked on its most arduous task yet -- 
that of bringing some semblance of order to the institution of Shankaracharyas. 
For the first time, the VHP has convened a meeting of the Kendriya Margdarshak 
Mandal -- its supreme decision-making body -- to frame yardsticks for 
distinguishing ``real'' Shankaracharyas from their pretenders and challengers. 
The crucial meeting is scheduled to be held at Ahmedabad in February next.
 

 But the VHP's move is likely to face stiff opposition from certain quarters. 
It is unlikely that people like Swami Swaroopanand will endorse it. The 
Shankaracharya of Dwarka has a bitter relationship with the VHP, criticising 
all its moves in the past. The VHP has apparently been forced to make such a 
move after a spate of cases involving Shankaracharyas, religious heads of the 
Shaivite sect of Hindus, were dragged to various courts. It was also rattled by 
the unsavouryscenes witnessed during the Kumbh Mela held earlier this year at 
Hardwar, in which members of various orders fought among themselves and with 
the police to be the first to bathe in the Ganga.
 

 "The multiplicity of these religious heads has the Hindu samaj bewildered," 
observed a VHP spokesman, adding, "things have reached such a stage that steps 
will have to be taken to remove this confusion." At the last count, according 
to him, there were 18 Shankaracharyas. In addition, there were six religious 
heads who had established their own peeths 

[FairfieldLife] A Tale Of Two Women: Jasmine and Samantha

2014-01-09 Thread TurquoiseB
Today was a non-workday for me, all of the articles on my schedule for
this week already written, so I spent the day with a couple of women.
And the differences between them really struck me, so I'll spend a
little time rapping about those differences.

Don't get me wrong...they were similar in many ways. Both were
beautiful, and both were intelligent. Neither of them was real, in the
strictest sense of the word, but still, it was the differences between
them that stood out more than the similarities.

When I say that neither was real, it's because both women were
characters in films. Jasmine is the name of Cate Blanchett's character
in Woody Allen's latest film, "Blue Jasmine." And Samantha, played by
Scarlett Johansson, is the name of Joaquin Phoenix's love interest in
Spike Jonze's new film "Her." But still, even though both of these women
were fictional, one of them felt far more real to me than the other.

It wasn't the acting that defined the "realness" or the lack thereof.
Both actresses have been nominated for Best Actress awards already, and
there is a strong chance that both will get similar Oscar nominations
for their work in these films. And both will deserve them. But still,
one of the women they portrayed felt more real than the other.

I've met women like Jasmine. Heck, I've dated -- although, to my credit,
never for longer than a single date -- women like Jasmine. Cate
Blanchett did a great job capturing the nuances of a seriously
depressed, seriously neurotic, and above all seriously narcissistic
woman. Watching her character onscreen made my skin crawl. I wouldn't
even have lasted through the starter course if someone had fixed me up
on a dinner date with Jasmine. I would have been putting her in a cab
and doing leaps of joy at being rid of her within 20 minutes. It really
didn't *matter* how beautiful Jasmine was, because inside she was ugly.
And interestingly enough, the ugliness didn't come from her depression,
or her neuroses; it came from her narcissism. Jasmine's sense of self
was so huge and so overpowering that there was simply no room in it for
another human being.

And then there's Samantha. Even though we never get to see Scarlett
Johansson onscreen (all we hear is her voice), and even though she's
only an operating system, Samantha is real. And a large part of that
"realness" is that there is no narcissism in her.

Jasmine is so delusional that she has episodes of talking to herself in
public. But even when she's talking to someone else she's talking to
herself. She's closed, not really open to contact. That never happens
with Samantha. When she's talking to you, she's really talking to you,
not to the voices in her head. She's open.

It's NOT as if Samantha has no self, or no sense of self, even though
she's...uh...an AI. Her designers created her to be curious, and to have
a love of learning. She has learned a lot, so she has a very strong
sense of self.

But it's self without self-obsession. That's the biggest difference
between her and Jasmine. Jasmine's self is so important to her, so
overpowering and overshadowing, that she can't get out of it. And she
can't let anyone "into" that self, because there is no room for anyone
*but* her self in there. Samantha is all self, but somehow so accepting
of that self that it's an "open self." There is room in her self for
every thing she sees and every self she interacts with. None of these
things and people diminish her in any way, or (as with Jasmine) distract
her from the all-important obsession with her self and its all-important
thoughts. All of these things and people Samantha encounters only *add*
to the sum of her self. As a result, she comes off as "real," whereas
Jasmine does not. In my opinion, of course.

Samantha feels real to me because she reminds me of my real-life close
friends, and why they *are* my friends. She's open, she's funny, she's
compassionate and accepting of others, and her range of interests is so
vast that there is never a possibility of running out of things to talk
to her about or like about her. But most of all she's open. And that
openness inspires a similar openness in me. What could be more real than
that?




Re: [FairfieldLife] In the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"...

2014-01-09 Thread Share Long
But then do the flood Gestapos take over?! (-:





On Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:07 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:
 
  
We have clouds and high humidity in the SF Bay Area right now.  Any day clouds 
could begin dropping rain and it might last until March.  It's happened before 
and rained on the water Gestapo's plans.

On 01/09/2014 06:53 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:

  
>A nice picture - we are warm enough, but SO dry, actually entering a severe 
>drought. The Sierra snow-pack normally measures around 48 feet. This year, it 
>is *nine*. As I speak I can hear the merest sprinkles of rain on the roof - 
>hope we get a lot more.
>
>
>
>



Re: [FairfieldLife] In the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"...

2014-01-09 Thread Bhairitu
We have clouds and high humidity in the SF Bay Area right now.  Any day 
clouds could begin dropping rain and it might last until March.  It's 
happened before and rained on the water Gestapo's plans.


On 01/09/2014 06:53 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:


A nice picture - we are warm enough, but SO dry, actually entering a 
severe drought. The Sierra snow-pack normally measures around 48 feet. 
This year, it is *nine*. As I speak I can hear the merest sprinkles of 
rain on the roof - hope we get a lot more.








Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: "If Another Country Was Doing This To Our Kids, We’d Be At War"

2014-01-09 Thread Share Long
Great info, Steve, especially the part about stats driving the situation and 
how the *haves* might change in quantity.





On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:51 PM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=CLDgDxHNu1oC&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1


I listened to several interviews with this guy.

Among the things he writes about is that income disparity is pretty much here 
to stay.  But instead of 1% and the rest, it is more likely to be about 15% who 
have resources, with most everyone else just scraping by.

He also points out, (either correctly or incorrectly) that the catalyst for 
social upheavals in the past was because people did not have enough to eat, and 
that is not likely to be the case now.

Also, technology, being so accessible, is able to provide enough comfort and 
satisfaction so that people will be okay with a lower standard of living.

Another thing said is that stats will continue to drive most decisions.  Just 
as in sports stats have become dominant in measuring every nuance, this will 
continue in one's personal life, determining credit worthiness, and into areas 
not yet so affected in this way.

I recall being quite impressed with Alvin Toffler's Future Shock.  This has 
that feel to it. (for me at least)

I intend to order and read on my daughter's Kindle.



--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Posted because I suspect many here might be interested in seeing this film:


http://www.upworthy.com/my-favorite-line-from-this-movie-trailer-if-another-country-was-doing-this-to-us-wed-be-at-war

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] In the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"...

2014-01-09 Thread Share Long
Ann, of course, but what happens next? Do the animals migrate? Mate and bear 
young at a time different than usual? Do the plants develop longer roots to get 
to the water table?





On Thursday, January 9, 2014 10:46 AM, "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Doc, that seems like a drastic reduction! I wonder how it affects the critters 
and plants.

They get thirsty.





On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:53 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
  
A nice picture - we are warm enough, but SO dry, actually entering a severe 
drought. The Sierra snow-pack normally measures around 48 feet. This year, it 
is *nine*. As I speak I can hear the merest sprinkles of rain on the roof - 
hope we get a lot more.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>>
>>
>>Steve, I know exactly what you mean. It got all the way up to 29 the other 
>>day and I actually went outside without gloves on! Sunday it's supposed to be 
>>42! yahooo
>>
>>
>>
>>I feel very lucky. The other morning was a "cold" day for Victoria. We 
>>actually had frost. Whewww.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:17 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
>>wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>
>>
>>I don't know about you, but I am shocked at just how "warm" 26 degrees can 
>>feel.  On the other hand, the wind is a real factor, ala wind chill.  But 
>>today, with no wind, the operative word was "balmy"
>>
>>
>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>>
>>
>>hmmm, Steve, maybe Nature's telling me to retire there instead of here (-:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Monday, January 6, 2014 10:02 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
>>wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>Uh Share.  Looks like the temp in the Artic is warmer than it is FF!
>>
>>
>>GF (that's Go Figure)   (-:
>>
>>
>>
>>




Re: [FairfieldLife] In the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"...

2014-01-09 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Doc, that seems like a drastic reduction! I wonder how it affects the critters 
and plants.
 

 They get thirsty.
 

 
 
 On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:53 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
   A nice picture - we are warm enough, but SO dry, actually entering a severe 
drought. The Sierra snow-pack normally measures around 48 feet. This year, it 
is *nine*. As I speak I can hear the merest sprinkles of rain on the roof - 
hope we get a lot more.

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Steve, I know exactly what you mean. It got all the way up to 29 the other day 
and I actually went outside without gloves on! Sunday it's supposed to be 42! 
yahooo
 

 I feel very lucky. The other morning was a "cold" day for Victoria. We 
actually had frost. Whewww.
 

 

 

 

 
 
 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:17 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   

 I don't know about you, but I am shocked at just how "warm" 26 degrees can 
feel.  On the other hand, the wind is a real factor, ala wind chill.  But 
today, with no wind, the operative word was "balmy"
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 hmmm, Steve, maybe Nature's telling me to retire there instead of here (-:
 

 
 
 On Monday, January 6, 2014 10:02 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   Uh Share.  Looks like the temp in the Artic is warmer than it is FF!
 

 GF (that's Go Figure)   (-:
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 




 
 
 
 






 
 

 
 




 
 
 
 






Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group Meditations

2014-01-09 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Let's not forget it was all started as a con by the Big M himself - that's why 
these folk believe in it - cuz he said it wuz true - and of course we know he 
was vetted by Benjy Creme himself so he is beyond reproach.
 

 I think certain "folk" believe it because those particular folk have a kind of 
idealism and gullibility that can not be faulted for intention but for the 
simplistic naivete of of it. Desiring world peace is not a bad thing but 
thinking that, for all the evidence otherwise, that this ME thing works starts 
to become denial and a sort of lunacy. But then, there a lots of lunatics of 
all sorts who surround us that are far scarier.
 
 On Thu, 1/9/14, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group 
Meditations
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 2:36 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

 wrote:
 
 Hardly seems
 credible that the Global Country of World Peace is at risk
 given that it does not exist except as a concept in some
 people's minds and given that there have been wars all
 over the globe ever since M first began to talk about world
 peace but whatever.
 The Global Country of World
 Peace is a fiction in the minds of those who hope for a
 better world but are, unfortunately, lacking the skill and
 knowledge to make it a better one. I believe it is held by
 those who are older, perhaps more desperately idealistic and
 who have maybe run out of other ideas which could make this
 world more peaceful and less entropic. It all starts with
 yourself and in the dealings with those around you. Start
 small, make it all count from how you say "good
 morning" to someone to how you give them that last kiss
 or hug at night.
 
 
 
 On Thu, 1/9/14, dhamiltony2k5@...
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism,
 A Call to Group Meditations
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 12:40 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Brave meditators, you
 
 have done all we asked you to do, and more than could be
 
 reasonably
 
 expected; but your own global country of World Peace is at
 
 stake,
 
 your partners, families, your homes and all that you hold
 
 dear. You
 
 have worn yourselves out with fatigues and hardships of
 
 waging world
 
 peace, but we know not how to spare you. If you will
 consent
 
 to stay
 
 in the Domes only one month longer, you will render that
 
 service to
 
 the cause of liberty of all and to your global country of
 
 world peace
 
 which you probably never can do under any other
 
 circumstances. 
 
 
 
 -Buck in the Dome
 
 
 
 Transcendental
 
 Meditation:
 
 Crime rate decreased in cities after
 
 one percent of their populations had begun practicing the
 
 Transcendental Meditation technique. -Editors
 
 
 
 Paper
 
 98Improved Quality of Life Through The
 
 Transcendental Meditation Program:
 
 
 
 Decreased Crime Rate
 
 
 
 Paper
 
 98Introduction
 
 
 
 In 1960 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
 
 founder of the Transcendental Meditation program,
 predicted
 
 that a
 
 transition in society toward a more orderly and harmonious
 
 functioning would occur when a small fraction -on the
 order
 
 of one
 
 percent- of a population practiced the Transcendental
 
 Meditation
 
 technique (6), and in December 1974 we found that crime
 rate
 
 did
 
 decrease in four midwestern U.S. Cities in which one
 percent
 
 of the
 
 population was practicing the TM technique. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Scientific Research
 
 on the Transcendental Meditation
 
 ProgramCollected
 
 Papers,Volume
 
 I,1977Editors,Orme-JohnsonFarrow
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 pp 727
 
 
 
 In the East China Sea, in
 
 very practical terms I should really quite like to see a
 
 well formed
 
 coalition made of the United Nations Peace-keepers
 
 immediately handling
 
 the logistics of a landing of teams of AFSC Quakers as
 
 experienced mediators of conflict and
 
 meditators from the Global Country of World Peace in field
 
 effect as a joint peace-making task-force.   In
 
 coalition of peace-keeping make a landing now on some
 island
 
 rock between them
 
 countries all for a residence of coherence mediation
 
 meditation.  It is high time to attack the
 incoherence
 
 there directly with a much more aggressive mediation of
 
 transcending meditation. -Buck 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Revolution now! It is
 
 high time we claim our revolutionary heritage back from
 the
 
 Movement's suits. As meditators we need to take our
 
 cause with pe

[FairfieldLife] A different kind of movie review: "Her"

2014-01-09 Thread TurquoiseB
Well, I finally got to see it, and the bottom line is that -- as I had
suspected -- Spike Jonze has made the film of the year.

I'll probably see it a number of times again, because the script itself
is so gorgeous that I'll want to revisit those lines over and over. But
for now I'll just pass along my
I-finally-saw-it-and-my-intuition-about-it-was correct thumbs-up
recommendation, and leave it at that.

Instead of writing about the movie itself, I'll probably just rap about
things it's left me thinking about over the next few days. I'm heading
out to a cafe right now to write the first of them. They'll be
spontaneous, off the top of my head, and unedited. Be warned. :-)




Re: [FairfieldLife] In the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"...

2014-01-09 Thread doctordumbass
so far, so good, but we can expect water rationing soon.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Doc, that seems like a drastic reduction! I wonder how it affects the critters 
and plants.
 

 
 
 On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:53 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
   A nice picture - we are warm enough, but SO dry, actually entering a severe 
drought. The Sierra snow-pack normally measures around 48 feet. This year, it 
is *nine*. As I speak I can hear the merest sprinkles of rain on the roof - 
hope we get a lot more.

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Steve, I know exactly what you mean. It got all the way up to 29 the other day 
and I actually went outside without gloves on! Sunday it's supposed to be 42! 
yahooo
 

 I feel very lucky. The other morning was a "cold" day for Victoria. We 
actually had frost. Whewww.
 

 

 

 

 
 
 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:17 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   

 I don't know about you, but I am shocked at just how "warm" 26 degrees can 
feel.  On the other hand, the wind is a real factor, ala wind chill.  But 
today, with no wind, the operative word was "balmy"
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 hmmm, Steve, maybe Nature's telling me to retire there instead of here (-:
 

 
 
 On Monday, January 6, 2014 10:02 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   Uh Share.  Looks like the temp in the Artic is warmer than it is FF!
 

 GF (that's Go Figure)   (-:
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 




 
 
 
 






 
 

 
 




 
 
 
 






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread Share Long
santa merudanda,
there are air molecules touching 
my skin and they are touched by other air 
molecules stretching out in
all directions molecules touching 
molecules til your skin too is touched.
See, just a few million layers of air molecules 
between here and there, but then whizzing through 
them, all these bullets of love and not
a single one in vain (-:





On Thursday, January 9, 2014 3:05 AM, merudanda  
wrote:
 
  
Bullets do not work that way
Bullet bouncing off the gun 
and ruining the gunman's day. 
Bullet,
You there, I here,
With just the door ajar
That oceans are,
And prayer,
And that pale sustenance,
Despair!
..
Someone lurking through the door ajar?
A little breathless frightened star?
My ears are evermore attend,

...  ...
Waiting in vain for one blest sound--?



Re: [FairfieldLife] In the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"...

2014-01-09 Thread Share Long
Doc, that seems like a drastic reduction! I wonder how it affects the critters 
and plants.





On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:53 AM, "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
A nice picture - we are warm enough, but SO dry, actually entering a severe 
drought. The Sierra snow-pack normally measures around 48 feet. This year, it 
is *nine*. As I speak I can hear the merest sprinkles of rain on the roof - 
hope we get a lot more.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:







---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
>
>Steve, I know exactly what you mean. It got all the way up to 29 the other day 
>and I actually went outside without gloves on! Sunday it's supposed to be 42! 
>yahooo
>
>
>
>I feel very lucky. The other morning was a "cold" day for Victoria. We 
>actually had frost. Whewww.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:17 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
>wrote:
> 
>  
>
>
>I don't know about you, but I am shocked at just how "warm" 26 degrees can 
>feel.  On the other hand, the wind is a real factor, ala wind chill.  But 
>today, with no wind, the operative word was "balmy"
>
>
>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
>
>hmmm, Steve, maybe Nature's telling me to retire there instead of here (-:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Monday, January 6, 2014 10:02 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
>wrote:
> 
>  
>Uh Share.  Looks like the temp in the Artic is warmer than it is FF!
>
>
>GF (that's Go Figure)   (-:
>
>
>
>


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Dancing With The Stars

2014-01-09 Thread Share Long
Steve and turq, I loved it too. I felt like I was having a glimpse into the 
future of art forms.





On Thursday, January 9, 2014 7:28 AM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
O.M.G. That was remarkable!  



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


No, not that one. This one is more about dancing with light:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/02/enra-pleiades_n_4532918.html 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group Meditations

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Jackson
Let's not forget it was all started as a con by the Big M himself - that's why 
these folk believe in it - cuz he said it wuz true - and of course we know he 
was vetted by Benjy Creme himself so he is beyond reproach..

On Thu, 1/9/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group 
Meditations
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 2:36 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote:
 
 Hardly seems
 credible that the Global Country of World Peace is at risk
 given that it does not exist except as a concept in some
 people's minds and given that there have been wars all
 over the globe ever since M first began to talk about world
 peace but whatever.
 The Global Country of World
 Peace is a fiction in the minds of those who hope for a
 better world but are, unfortunately, lacking the skill and
 knowledge to make it a better one. I believe it is held by
 those who are older, perhaps more desperately idealistic and
 who have maybe run out of other ideas which could make this
 world more peaceful and less entropic. It all starts with
 yourself and in the dealings with those around you. Start
 small, make it all count from how you say "good
 morning" to someone to how you give them that last kiss
 or hug at night.
 
 
 
  On Thu, 1/9/14, dhamiltony2k5@...
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism,
 A Call to Group Meditations
 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
  Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 12:40 PM
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   
 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 
  
 
  
 
  
 

 

 
Brave meditators, you
 
  have done all we asked you to do, and more than could be
 
  reasonably
 
  expected; but your own global country of World Peace is at
 
  stake,
 
  your partners, families, your homes and all that you hold
 
  dear. You
 
  have worn yourselves out with fatigues and hardships of
 
  waging world
 
  peace, but we know not how to spare you. If you will
 consent
 
  to stay
 
  in the Domes only one month longer, you will render that
 
  service to
 
  the cause of liberty of all and to your global country of
 
  world peace
 
  which you probably never can do under any other
 
  circumstances. 
 
  
 
  -Buck in the Dome
 
  
 
  Transcendental
 
  Meditation:
 
  Crime rate decreased in cities after
 
  one percent  of their populations had begun practicing the
 
  Transcendental Meditation technique.  -Editors
 
  
 
  Paper
 
  98Improved Quality of Life Through The
 
  Transcendental Meditation Program:
 
  
 
  Decreased Crime Rate
 
  
 
  Paper
 
  98Introduction
 
  
 
  In 1960 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
 
  founder of the Transcendental Meditation  program,
 predicted
 
  that a
 
  transition in society toward a more orderly and harmonious
 
  functioning would occur when a small fraction -on the
 order
 
  of one
 
  percent- of a population practiced the Transcendental
 
  Meditation
 
  technique (6), and in December 1974 we found that crime
 rate
 
  did
 
  decrease in four midwestern U.S. Cities in which one
 percent
 
  of the
 
  population was practicing the TM technique. 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  Scientific Research
 
  on the Transcendental Meditation
 
  ProgramCollected
 
  Papers,Volume
 
  I,1977Editors,Orme-JohnsonFarrow
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  pp 727
 
  
 
  In the East China Sea, in
 
  very practical terms I should really quite like to see a
 
  well formed
 
  coalition made of the United Nations Peace-keepers
 
  immediately handling
 
  the logistics of a landing of teams of AFSC Quakers as
 
  experienced mediators of conflict and
 
  meditators from the Global Country of World Peace in field
 
  effect as a joint peace-making task-force.   In
 
  coalition of peace-keeping make a landing now on some
 island
 
  rock between them
 
  countries all for a residence of  coherence mediation
 
  meditation.  It is high time to attack the
 incoherence
 
  there directly with a much more aggressive mediation of
 
  transcending meditation. -Buck 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  Revolution now!  It is
 
  high time we claim our revolutionary heritage back from
 the
 
  Movement's suits.  As meditators we need to take our
 
  cause with peace
 
  directly to the barricades again; the need be here in this
 
  world
 
  today that we deploy now and lay siege with meditation
 even
 
  to the Great
 
  Walls of China in that troubled incoherent part of the
 
  world.  It is
 
  time for great spiritual and scientific revolutionary
 action
 
  of
 
  mediation meditation everywhere.  If they won't let us
 
  in to Red
 
  China to meditate a mediation with peace there then,
 occupy
 
  their
 
  Great Wall.  Garris

Re: [FairfieldLife] In the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"...

2014-01-09 Thread doctordumbass
A nice picture - we are warm enough, but SO dry, actually entering a severe 
drought. The Sierra snow-pack normally measures around 48 feet. This year, it 
is *nine*. As I speak I can hear the merest sprinkles of rain on the roof - 
hope we get a lot more.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Steve, I know exactly what you mean. It got all the way up to 29 the other day 
and I actually went outside without gloves on! Sunday it's supposed to be 42! 
yahooo
 

 I feel very lucky. The other morning was a "cold" day for Victoria. We 
actually had frost. Whewww.
 

 

 

 

 
 
 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:17 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   

 I don't know about you, but I am shocked at just how "warm" 26 degrees can 
feel.  On the other hand, the wind is a real factor, ala wind chill.  But 
today, with no wind, the operative word was "balmy"
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 hmmm, Steve, maybe Nature's telling me to retire there instead of here (-:
 

 
 
 On Monday, January 6, 2014 10:02 PM, "steve.sundur@..."  
wrote:
 
   Uh Share.  Looks like the temp in the Artic is warmer than it is FF!
 

 GF (that's Go Figure)   (-:
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







[FairfieldLife] RE: Krapp's Last Tape, Part Un

2014-01-09 Thread doctordumbass
Your wish is my command.:-)
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Please do call them assholes!
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Ah, Judy - I appreciate your precision. True...though I think I can still call 
them 'assholes' (biased artist). :-)
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 OK. I don't think it was deliberate, though, just incompetent. They'd 
apparently taken some care to avoid bombing heritage sites, and when Iraqi 
troops holed up inside the museum and shot at them from there, they didn't 
return fire for fear of damaging the artifacts (this was before the looting 
started). It just seems not to have occurred to them that looting would be a 
major problem.
 

 Which was incredibly STOOOPID but not likely malicious.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 I should have mentioned that I was aware of that [no direct looting, that we 
know of, by US forces]. However, the invaders, with the might of countless 
soldiers, and weapons, did absolutely *nothing* to prevent it - even though 
other strategic targets were protected for their contents. Assholes.


 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 I agree the rationale for the invasion was a lie, but I'm missing the 
connection with the looting of the museum. It wasn't the U.S. invaders who 
dunnit:
 

 http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/monument-sidebar.html 
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/monument-sidebar.html

 
https://www.stanford.edu/group/chr/drupal/ref/the-2003-looting-of-the-iraq-national-museum
 
https://www.stanford.edu/group/chr/drupal/ref/the-2003-looting-of-the-iraq-national-museum

The early reporting was sensationalized and wildly exaggerated. Not that it 
wasn't a catastrophe for the museum, but it wasn't as bad as at first thought.

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 "...the "cultural loss" I was referring to was the looting of the Iraqi 
National Museum during the 2003 invasion..."

I recall during that time - despite all of the national rhetoric and will, 
being at its peak, with everybody screaming to save Iraq from itself - when I 
heard that their national museum had been looted, I knew without a doubt that 
it was all a lie. Similar to our 'liberation' of Afghanistan, with its now 
flourishing more than ever, opium trade. 
 

















Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group Meditations

2014-01-09 Thread awoelflebater


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Hardly seems credible that the Global Country of World Peace is at risk given 
that it does not exist except as a concept in some people's minds and given 
that there have been wars all over the globe ever since M first began to talk 
about world peace but whatever.
 

 The Global Country of World Peace is a fiction in the minds of those who hope 
for a better world but are, unfortunately, lacking the skill and knowledge to 
make it a better one. I believe it is held by those who are older, perhaps more 
desperately idealistic and who have maybe run out of other ideas which could 
make this world more peaceful and less entropic. It all starts with yourself 
and in the dealings with those around you. Start small, make it all count from 
how you say "good morning" to someone to how you give them that last kiss or 
hug at night.
 
 On Thu, 1/9/14, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group 
Meditations
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 12:40 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Brave meditators, you
 have done all we asked you to do, and more than could be
 reasonably
 expected; but your own global country of World Peace is at
 stake,
 your partners, families, your homes and all that you hold
 dear. You
 have worn yourselves out with fatigues and hardships of
 waging world
 peace, but we know not how to spare you. If you will consent
 to stay
 in the Domes only one month longer, you will render that
 service to
 the cause of liberty of all and to your global country of
 world peace
 which you probably never can do under any other
 circumstances. 
 
 -Buck in the Dome
 
 Transcendental
 Meditation:
 Crime rate decreased in cities after
 one percent of their populations had begun practicing the
 Transcendental Meditation technique. -Editors
 
 Paper
 98Improved Quality of Life Through The
 Transcendental Meditation Program:
 
 Decreased Crime Rate
 
 Paper
 98Introduction
 
 In 1960 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
 founder of the Transcendental Meditation program, predicted
 that a
 transition in society toward a more orderly and harmonious
 functioning would occur when a small fraction -on the order
 of one
 percent- of a population practiced the Transcendental
 Meditation
 technique (6), and in December 1974 we found that crime rate
 did
 decrease in four midwestern U.S. Cities in which one percent
 of the
 population was practicing the TM technique. 
 
 
 
 Scientific Research
 on the Transcendental Meditation
 ProgramCollected
 Papers,Volume
 I,1977Editors,Orme-JohnsonFarrow
 
 
 
 
 
 
 pp 727
 
 In the East China Sea, in
 very practical terms I should really quite like to see a
 well formed
 coalition made of the United Nations Peace-keepers
 immediately handling
 the logistics of a landing of teams of AFSC Quakers as
 experienced mediators of conflict and
 meditators from the Global Country of World Peace in field
 effect as a joint peace-making task-force.   In
 coalition of peace-keeping make a landing now on some island
 rock between them
 countries all for a residence of coherence mediation
 meditation.  It is high time to attack the incoherence
 there directly with a much more aggressive mediation of
 transcending meditation. -Buck 
 
 
 
 Revolution now! It is
 high time we claim our revolutionary heritage back from the
 Movement's suits. As meditators we need to take our
 cause with peace
 directly to the barricades again; the need be here in this
 world
 today that we deploy now and lay siege with meditation even
 to the Great
 Walls of China in that troubled incoherent part of the
 world. It is
 time for great spiritual and scientific revolutionary action
 of
 mediation meditation everywhere. If they won't let us
 in to Red
 China to meditate a mediation with peace there then, occupy
 their
 Great Wall. Garrison their block houses with meditation. 
 !Occupy
 Now! 
 
 
 Revolution:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH9zG28GQEg 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH9zG28GQEg
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Police
 in China's restive Xinjiang
 region have shot dead eight people during a violent clash on
 Monday 
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25546531 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25546531
 
 
 
 
 The East China Sea is an
 ideal location to wage peace from now. It is time to occupy
 the
 whole region with peace. Surround the place with
 meditation. We
 need mediators, meditators, and peace-keepers there now. 
 Quakers as
 mediators, mediators from the Global Country of World Peace,
 and the
 United Nations Peace-keepers for logistics. What are the TM
 Rajas
 doing about peace there?-Buck  
 
 
 
 Japan's
 Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe's visit to the Yasukuni
 shrine has angered
 many in China and South Ko

[FairfieldLife] RE: Farmers abandoning (GMO) because of simple economics. “We get the same or better yield s, and we save money up front

2014-01-09 Thread nablusoss1008
Very good news ! The result of hightened world collective consciousness perhaps 
? 
 

 "The market for non-GMO foods has grown from $1.3 billion in 2011 to $3.1 
billion in 2013, partially because some Asian and European countries don’t want 
GMO seeds."


[FairfieldLife] RE: Dancing With The Stars

2014-01-09 Thread steve.sundur
O.M.G. That was remarkable!  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 No, not that one. This one is more about dancing with light:

 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/02/enra-pleiades_n_4532918.htmlhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/02/enra-pleiades_n_4532918.html
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/02/enra-pleiades_n_4532918.html 







Re: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group Meditations

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Jackson
Hardly seems credible that the Global Country of World Peace is at risk given 
that it does not exist except as a concept in some people's minds and given 
that there have been wars all over the globe ever since M first began to talk 
about world peace but whatever.

On Thu, 1/9/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group 
Meditations
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 9, 2014, 12:40 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Brave meditators, you
 have done all we asked you to do, and more than could be
 reasonably
 expected; but your own global country of World Peace is at
 stake,
 your partners, families, your homes and all that you hold
 dear. You
 have worn yourselves out with fatigues and hardships of
 waging world
 peace, but we know not how to spare you. If you will consent
 to stay
 in the Domes only one month longer, you will render that
 service to
 the cause of liberty of all and to your global country of
 world peace
 which you probably never can do under any other
 circumstances. 
 
 -Buck in the Dome
 
 Transcendental
 Meditation:
 Crime rate decreased in cities after
 one percent  of their populations had begun practicing the
 Transcendental Meditation technique.  -Editors
 
 Paper
 98Improved Quality of Life Through The
 Transcendental Meditation Program:
 
 Decreased Crime Rate
 
 Paper
 98Introduction
 
 In 1960 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,
 founder of the Transcendental Meditation  program, predicted
 that a
 transition in society toward a more orderly and harmonious
 functioning would occur when a small fraction -on the order
 of one
 percent- of a population practiced the Transcendental
 Meditation
 technique (6), and in December 1974 we found that crime rate
 did
 decrease in four midwestern U.S. Cities in which one percent
 of the
 population was practicing the TM technique. 
 
 
 
 Scientific Research
 on the Transcendental Meditation
 ProgramCollected
 Papers,Volume
 I,1977Editors,Orme-JohnsonFarrow
 
 
 
 
 
 
 pp 727
 
 In the East China Sea, in
 very practical terms I should really quite like to see a
 well formed
 coalition made of the United Nations Peace-keepers
 immediately handling
 the logistics of a landing of teams of AFSC Quakers as
 experienced mediators of conflict and
 meditators from the Global Country of World Peace in field
 effect as a joint peace-making task-force.   In
 coalition of peace-keeping make a landing now on some island
 rock between them
 countries all for a residence of  coherence mediation
 meditation.  It is high time to attack the incoherence
 there directly with a much more aggressive mediation of
 transcending meditation. -Buck 
 
 
 
 Revolution now!  It is
 high time we claim our revolutionary heritage back from the
 Movement's suits.  As meditators we need to take our
 cause with peace
 directly to the barricades again; the need be here in this
 world
 today that we deploy now and lay siege with meditation even
 to the Great
 Walls of China in that troubled incoherent part of the
 world.  It is
 time for great spiritual and scientific revolutionary action
 of
 mediation meditation everywhere.  If they won't let us
 in to Red
 China to meditate a mediation with peace there then, occupy
 their
 Great Wall.  Garrison their block houses with meditation. 
 !Occupy
 Now! 
 
 
 Revolution:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH9zG28GQEg

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Police
 in China's restive Xinjiang
 region have shot dead eight people during a violent clash on
 Monday 
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25546531
 
 
 
 
 The East China Sea is an
 ideal location to wage peace from now.  It is time to occupy
 the
 whole region with peace.  Surround the place with
 meditation.   We
 need mediators, meditators, and peace-keepers there now. 
 Quakers as
 mediators, mediators from the Global Country of World Peace,
 and the
 United Nations Peace-keepers for logistics.  What are the TM
 Rajas
 doing about peace there?-Buck  
 
 
 
 Japan's
 Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe's visit to the Yasukuni
 shrine has angered
 many in China and South Korea 
 
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25524559
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From quite early on Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
 employed the radical
 direct action of groups meditating
 deployed in field
 effect as like the Meissner Effect of
 consciousness
 mediation of meditation as then even in
 1962 meditating a
 peaceful resolution to the Cuban Missile
 crisis of 1962.  
 Maharishi called for group
 meditations at that
 time to avert the critical danger of
 incoherence the
 world was suffering in at that moment in time.
  In a move of
 scientific radical peace-activism Maharishi
 lead group
 meditations against the turmoil in the world
 then.  To his
 transcendental mediation we look back at it
 now as The Cuban
 missile crisis of 1962. 
   
 
 Radical

[FairfieldLife] Waging Radical Transcendentalism, A Call to Group Meditations

2014-01-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Brave meditators, you have done all we asked you to do, and more than could be 
reasonably expected; but your own global country of World Peace is at stake, 
your partners, families, your homes and all that you hold dear. You have worn 
yourselves out with fatigues and hardships of waging world peace, but we know 
not how to spare you. If you will consent to stay in the Domes only one month 
longer, you will render that service to the cause of liberty of all and to your 
global country of world peace which you probably never can do under any other 
circumstances. 
 
 -Buck in the Dome
 

 

 Transcendental Meditation:
 
 Crime rate decreased in cities after one percent of their populations had 
begun practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique. -Editors
 

 

 Paper 98
 Improved Quality of Life Through The Transcendental Meditation Program:
 
 Decreased Crime Rate
 

 Paper 98
 Introduction
 
 In 1960 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, founder of the Transcendental Meditation 
program, predicted that a transition in society toward a more orderly and 
harmonious functioning would occur when a small fraction -on the order of one 
percent- of a population practiced the Transcendental Meditation technique (6), 
and in December 1974 we found that crime rate did decrease in four midwestern 
U.S. Cities in which one percent of the population was practicing the TM 
technique.  
 


 Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation Program
 Collected Papers,
 Volume I,
 1977
 Editors,
 Orme-Johnson
 Farrow
 
 pp 727
 

 In the East China Sea, in very practical terms I should really quite like to 
see a well formed coalition made of the United Nations Peace-keepers 
immediately handling the logistics of a landing of teams of AFSC Quakers as 
experienced mediators of conflict and meditators from the Global Country of 
World Peace in field effect as a joint peace-making task-force.   In coalition 
of peace-keeping make a landing now on some island rock between them countries 
all for a residence of coherence mediation meditation.  It is high time to 
attack the incoherence there directly with a much more aggressive mediation of 
transcending meditation. 
 -Buck  
 


 Revolution now! It is high time we claim our revolutionary heritage back from 
the Movement's suits. As meditators we need to take our cause with peace 
directly to the barricades again; the need be here in this world today that we 
deploy now and lay siege with meditation even to the Great Walls of China in 
that troubled incoherent part of the world. It is time for great spiritual and 
scientific revolutionary action of mediation meditation everywhere. If they 
won't let us in to Red China to meditate a mediation with peace there then, 
occupy their Great Wall. Garrison their block houses with meditation. !Occupy 
Now! 
 
 
 Revolution:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH9zG28GQEg 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH9zG28GQEg 
 
 
 
 

 Police in China's restive Xinjiang region have shot dead eight people during a 
violent clash on Monday 
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25546531 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25546531 
 


 The East China Sea is an ideal location to wage peace from now. It is time to 
occupy the whole region with peace. Surround the place with meditation. We need 
mediators, meditators, and peace-keepers there now. Quakers as mediators, 
mediators from the Global Country of World Peace, and the United Nations 
Peace-keepers for logistics. What are the TM Rajas doing about peace there?
 -Buck  
 

 
 
 Japan's Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe's visit to the Yasukuni shrine has angered 
many in China and South Korea 
 
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25524559 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-25524559 
 
 
 
 
 

 From quite early on Maharishi Mahesh Yogi employed the radical direct action 
of groups meditating deployed in field effect as like the Meissner Effect of 
consciousness mediation of meditation as then even in 1962 meditating a 
peaceful resolution to the Cuban Missile crisis of 1962. Maharishi called for 
group meditations at that time to avert the critical danger of incoherence the 
world was suffering in at that moment in time.   In a move of scientific 
radical peace-activism Maharishi lead group meditations against the turmoil in 
the world then. To his transcendental mediation we look back at it now as The 
Cuban missile crisis of 1962.   
 
 Radicalism 1962,   Radical Peace and The 1962 Cuban missile crisis: As a 20th 
Century revolutionary in radical peaceful affect, a prominent millenarian of 
his age, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was boundlessly persistent, constant and 
consistent in his coming out of India going around the world in  peace activism 
of direct-action through introducing and  inciting the mediation for peaceful 
resolution of world conflict  by the effect of group meditation.  


 Revolution: Maharishi's formula to change the world 

Waging Radical Peace, Maharishi 

[FairfieldLife] Dancing With The Stars

2014-01-09 Thread TurquoiseB
No, not that one. This one is more about dancing with light:

  
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/02/enra-pleiades_n_4532918.html






[FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread merudanda
Bullets do not work that way
Bullet bouncing off the gun 
and ruining the gunman's day. 
Bullet,
You there, I here,
With just the door ajar
That oceans are,
And prayer,
And that pale sustenance,
Despair!
..
Someone lurking through the door ajar?
A little breathless frightened star?
My ears are evermore attend,

...  ...
Waiting in vain for one blest sound--?



[FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread merudanda



 Gurus / ŚhaNkarācāryas appointments and list of will (the right to choose 
his successor from among his disciples) Acknowledged(suggestion) by the 
other ŚhaNkarācāryas Involvement of two bodies external to JyotirmaTha 
proper:Kāśī Vidvat PariSad and the Akhila Bhāratīya DharmasaNgha (were key 
factor in reviving the Jyotirmayha in the year 1941) The role of royalty 
and coronation of a Śaṅkarācārya as the head of a maTha  called  paTTābhiṣeka:  
age-old brahma-kSatra relationships. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Just checking on bullet feature function!

 Interesting, isn't? 

 In the online view there are no bullet to see-makes the text confusing, 
unclear. in the  online-edit feature bullets are easy to see, text lucid, 
clear, disposed snip

 


[FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread merudanda
Do have to add this to Jack Kerouac's  in vain list?

 

 Bullet list in FFL
 in vain

 The stars in the sky
In vain
The tragedy of Hamlet
   In vain
The key in the lock
  In vain
The sleeping mother
  In vain
The lamp in the corner
 In vain
The lamp in the corner unlit
In vain
Abraham Lincoln
In vain
The Aztec empire
   In vain
The writing hand: in vain
(The shoetrees in the shoes
 In vain
The windowshade string upon
the hand bible
   In vain—
   The glitter of the greenglass
 ashtray
In vain
The bear in the woods
 In vain
The Life of Buddha
 In vain)
 
 

 Jack Kerouac http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/1016 
 The stars in the sky
 In vain
 The tragedy of Hamlet
In vain
 The key in the lock
   In vain
 The sleeping mother
   In vain
 The lamp in the corner
  In vain
 The lamp in the corner unlit
 In vain
 Abraham Lincoln
 In vain
 The Aztec empire
In vain
 The writing hand: in vain 
 (The shoetrees in the shoes
  In vain
 The windowshade string upon
 the hand bible
In vain—
The glitter of the greenglass
  ashtray
 In vain
 The bear in the woods
  In vain
 The Life of Buddha
  In vain) 
 - See more at: 
http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/19163#sthash.IkxmWk0y.dpuf
 Jack Kerouac http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/1016 
 The stars in the sky
 In vain
 The tragedy of Hamlet
In vain
 The key in the lock
   In vain
 The sleeping mother
   In vain
 The lamp in the corner
  In vain
 The lamp in the corner unlit
 In vain
 Abraham Lincoln
 In vain
 The Aztec empire
In vain
 The writing hand: in vain 
 (The shoetrees in the shoes
  In vain
 The windowshade string upon
 the hand bible
In vain—
The glitter of the greenglass
  ashtray
 In vain
 The bear in the woods
  In vain
 The Life of Buddha
  In vain) 
 - See more at: 
http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/19163#sthash.IkxmWk0y.dpuf
 Jack Kerouac http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/1016 
 The stars in the sky
 In vain
 The tragedy of Hamlet
In vain
 The key in the lock
   In vain
 The sleeping mother
   In vain
 The lamp in the corner
  In vain
 The lamp in the corner unlit
 In vain
 Abraham Lincoln
 In vain
 The Aztec empire
In vain
 The writing hand: in vain 
 (The shoetrees in the shoes
  In vain
 The windowshade string upon
 the hand bible
In vain—
The glitter of the greenglass
  ashtray
 In vain
 The bear in the woods
  In vain
 The Life of Buddha
  In vain) 
 - See more at: 
http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/19163#sthash.IkxmWk0y.dpuf
 Jack Kerouac http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/1016 
 The stars in the sky
 In vain
 The tragedy of Hamlet
In vain
 The key in the lock
   In vain
 The sleeping mother
   In vain
 The lamp in the corner
  In vain
 The lamp in the corner unlit
 In vain
 Abraham Lincoln
 In vain
 The Aztec empire
In vain
 The writing hand: in vain 
 (The shoetrees in the shoes
  In vain
 The windowshade string upon
 the hand bible
In vain—
The glitter of the greenglass
  ashtray
 In vain
 The bear in the woods
  In vain
 The Life of Buddha
  In vain) 
 - See more at: 
http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/19163#sthash.IkxmWk0y.dpuf


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Just checking on bullet feature function!

 Interesting, isn't? 

 In the online view there are no bullet to see-makes the text confusing, 
unclear. in the  online-edit feature bullets are easy to see, text lucid, 
clear, disposed let'see:
 But "humanly "interesting, complex with its relation  to 

 Gurus / ŚhaNkarācāryas appointments and list of will (the right to choose his 
successor from among his disciples) Acknowledged(suggestion) by the other 
ŚhaNkarācāryas Involvement of two bodies external to JyotirmaTha proper:Kāśī 
Vidvat PariSad and the Akhila Bhāratīya DharmasaNgha (were key factor in 
reviving the Jyotirmayha in the year 1941) The role of royalty and coronation 
of a Śaṅkarācārya as the head of a maTha  called  paTTābhiṣeka:  age-old 
brahma-kSatra relationships. The role and interrelationship of Indian political 
parties and institution(incl. international)VHP,Congress party,RSS ,"Hindutva" 
organizations etc, Brahmin vs non-Brahmin (sansritization movement) 
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/266312/Hinduism/8975/Other-sources-the-process-of-Sanskritization
 
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/266312/Hinduism/8975/Other-sources-the-process-of-Sanskritiz

[FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-09 Thread merudanda
Just checking on bullet feature function!

 Interesting, isn't? 

 In the online view there are no bullet to see-makes the text confusing, 
unclear. in the  online-edit feature bullets are easy to see, text lucid, 
clear, disposed let'see:
 But "humanly "interesting, complex with its relation  to 

 Gurus / ŚhaNkarācāryas appointments and list of will (the right to choose his 
successor from among his disciples) Acknowledged(suggestion) by the other 
ŚhaNkarācāryas Involvement of two bodies external to JyotirmaTha proper:Kāśī 
Vidvat PariSad and the Akhila Bhāratīya DharmasaNgha (were key factor in 
reviving the Jyotirmayha in the year 1941) The role of royalty and coronation 
of a Śaṅkarācārya as the head of a maTha  called  paTTābhiṣeka:  age-old 
brahma-kSatra relationships. The role and interrelationship of Indian political 
parties and institution(incl. international)VHP,Congress party,RSS ,"Hindutva" 
organizations etc, Brahmin vs non-Brahmin (sansritization movement) 
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/266312/Hinduism/8975/Other-sources-the-process-of-Sanskritization
 
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/266312/Hinduism/8975/Other-sources-the-process-of-Sanskritization
 The rhetoric about ascetic as an atyāśramin (one who is beyond all āśramas)and 
esp.concrete written qualifications described in the Mahānuśāsana texts, etc 
are indeed reflected in Indian media...
 and now the contact address for inquiring ,restless mind:
 
To calm your  investigating mind -just contact and ask:

 Sri Sankaracharya Math, Joshimath, Badrinath, Uttar Pradesh 246 443, INDIA.
 

 Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati: Shankar Math, Allope Bagh, Allahabad, Uttar 
Pradesh 211 001, INDIA Swami Swaroopananda Saraswati: Sri Rajarajeswari Mandir, 
Paramhansi Ganga, Jabalpur, Madhya Pradesh 482 002, INDIA. Swami Madhavashrama: 
Sri Keshav Ashram, Haridwar, Uttar Pradesh 249 401, INDIA 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 The history and presence (as well as it's future)of Jyotirmatha (including  
involvement of the heads of the four and other monasteries of the Daśanāmī 
orders  to be known as Śaṅkarācāryas,  in honor of its founder)was and is 
extremely complicated .But "humanly "interesting, complex with its relation  to 

 Gurus / ŚhaNkarācāryas appointments and list of will (the right to choose his 
successor from among his disciples) Acknowledged(suggestion) by the other 
ŚhaNkarācāryas Involvement of two bodies external to JyotirmaTha proper:Kāśī 
Vidvat PariSad and the Akhila Bhāratīya DharmasaNgha (were key factor in 
reviving the Jyotirmayha in the year 1941) The role of royalty and coronation 
of a Śaṅkarācārya as the head of a maTha  called  paTTābhiṣeka:  age-old 
brahma-kSatra relationships. The role and interrelationship of Indian political 
parties and institution(incl. international)VHP,Congress party,RSS ,"Hindutva" 
organizations etc, Brahmin vs non-Brahmin (sansritization movement) 
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/266312/Hinduism/8975/Other-sources-the-process-of-Sanskritization
 
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/266312/Hinduism/8975/Other-sources-the-process-of-Sanskritization
 The rhetoric about ascetic as an atyāśramin (one who is beyond all āśramas)and 
esp.concrete written qualifications described in the Mahānuśāsana texts, etc 
are, as you mention correct dear B.i.D-transgressing the Dome and the west of 
the Des Moines River-, yes all o.m. angle are indeed reflected in Indian media 
with its "dependencies", called bias etc, and international media with 
itsuh...need of headlines.
.
If times allows and there are genuine interest  will dig up my fond memories of 
,here at  FFL almost forgotten, charming Svami Satyananda. He, being once a "  
part-time secretary"of Svāmī Brahmānanda Sarasvatī , gave a little glimpse  
about this o.m. in the  time  of a visit where now -but not then merudanda 
-santa grantor being his  always-huge ice-cream delivery boy-servant, shower 
door guard and tour guide. My role as his student was ( -question the 
philosophically impossibility of naturalness and effortlessness per se-) 
shortlived due the protesting TM -er blissies.  Ahhh fond memeories.
 Svami Satyanand  here  with the Maharishi and then Shankaracharya of 
JyothirMatha, Swami Vishnudevananda Saraswati.1980 on the Kumbha Mela in 
Haridwar, 20 Km south from Rishikeh on the river Ganges
 

 
Picture taken by my dear too early gone and missed  friend Dr. Frank Papentin , 
plublished in Darshan. Dreimal Indien mit/Three Times India with Maharishi 
Mahesh Yogi 


The question if Girish Varma ,probl. non-Brahmin,  as a "sansritizated" 
Brahmachary  being part of Shankarachary's order or not and if Swami 
Vasudevananda Saraswati can him remove from position and status are certainly 
interesting question.
To calm your  investigating mind -just contact and ask:
Sri Sankaracharya Math, Joshimath, Badrinath, Uttar Pradesh 246 443, INDIA.

 Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati: Shankar Math