[FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
There was something good that happened when the Spaniards conquered Mexico. They stopped the carnage of human sacrifices committed by the Aztecs to propitiate their gods as part of their culture for centuries. IMO, the success of the Conquistadores was mainly due to the cooperation of the tribes who were subjugated and victimized by the Aztec culture. So, karma played a big role in eradicating the evil of sacrificing people to a nonexistent Aztec god. Nonetheless, I'm not condoning the atrocities that were committed by the Conquistadores to the aboriginal peoples.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
Peyote has been used for at least 5,700 years by Native Americans in Mexico. Work cited: Prehistoric Peyote Use in Mexico by El-Seedi HR, De Smet PA, Beck O, Possnert G, Bruhn JG PMID 15990261 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mescaline http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mescaline ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : why on earth anyone would think that Gibson would make an historically accurate movie is beyond me, Non sequitur. especially considering the historically INaccurate movies he made like Braveheart and that damnable Patriot, which was, in terms of history complete bullshit. Non sequitur. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 2:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, As shown in Mel Gibson's movie, Apocalypto, the ancient Aztec culture was based on drugs and hallucinogens taken by the priests to gain visions of their gods. As such, we can assume that the rest of the population was also taking drugs to gain the visions of their gods as well. We can see this drug culture in the symbols used in decorating their temples and pyramids--specifically, the snake which represents Rahu, the Hindu god of illusion and delusion. It is further conceivable that the victims for the sacrifices were given drugs to become docile, in their hallucinations, to participate in their impending deaths. Aren't these similar to the drug culture today in Mexico and the USA? I don't think so no. The Aztec priests might have taken hallucinogens but that doesn't follow that the general populace did. And even if it was similar it doesn't follow that there is some sort of universal system whereby punishment for events is meted out to later generations or even to people living in the same place. These days everyone is into cocaine which is a different kettle of bananas to hallucinogenics anyway. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The Pope said so. But the Mexicans are furious. It's also possible that the violence is due to the past karma of the country--such as the sacrifice of people to the Aztec gods, before the Spaniards came to Mexico. Is it possible? Most Mexican aren't even indigenous, especially in the north of the country where most of the violence takes place at the border. I think a more likely explanation for the deaths is selfish American druggies who think that doing a line of coke on a saturday night doesn't hurt anyone. The pope is an asshole. Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mexican Catholics http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mex... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ The rest of the world may love Pope Francis, but Mexicans are furious that he is using their country as his reference point for drug violence and blaming the... View on www.newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] My Sunday cafe soundtrack
The other day I stumbled on to a new album that has now become my non-stop soundtrack. Van Morrison of all people released one of the best concept albums of the year. It's called Duets: Reworking the Catalogue and I just love it. Van had done duets before, and definitely didn't want this album to just be a rehash of his biggest hits, just done with other famous singers. So instead he invited some of his favorite other singers to join him on an album in which he revisited some of the *overlooked* songs from his own catalog. At this link if you are a Van Morrison fan you can listen to this revisit for free: Hear Van Morrison's New Album of All-Star 'Duets' | | | | | | | | | | | Hear Van Morrison's New Album of All-Star 'Duets'Bobby Womack, Mark Knopfler and Mavis Staples all appear on the Irish singer's 'Re-Working the Catalogue' | | | | View on www.rollingstone.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | I dived first for Streets Of Arklow, one of my favorite cuts from one of Van's most overlooked brilliant albums, Veedon Fleece. Should anyone else here be a fan of that album, you can revisit it here. Should you never have heard it, you really should. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1vYs5LBC3clist=PLWLQDGsdAqlZVnsHI9f9YKnHgjbP5aBMY
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Best Political Sign EVER
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
For the non-dualist, God or Satan are not physical objects of knowledge but consciousness itself - and parts of our own psyche. Everyone has a little God and a little Satan in them. Apparently you haven't fully realized the non-dual reality, since you're still dividing data and ideas up into sections and categories, folders and files. The idea you had years ago of following a spiritual path indicates that you are a True Believer in the Spirit. Your history on FFL shows a Devil in practice every time you attempt to deceive, impress, or show pride or jealousy. Every time you post a fib shows a little devil inside you; one could even say that at times you are devilish and a force for darkness. In fact, your free will is the force of power that propels you on to survival via The Lie below. If you were to be totally honest and tell us The Truth, it would be too brutal for you to bear and then there would be no need for further dialog. If you told the truth, everything you say after that would be a non sequitur. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Here's my theory about Satan, Old Nick, Lucifer, Beelzebub, Mephistopheles, or whatever you choose to call Him/It. Be warned. :-) Basically, as I see it, no such entity as Satan exists, just as no such entity as God exists. Satan is just something that believers in God thought up to cover their own philosophical short-sightedness. See, once these believers had invented a God who creates everything and runs everything according to His cosmic plan, they suddenly realized that they'd boxed themselves in and created a kind of nightmare for themselves. If, as they had already taught all their believer-followers, God runs *everything*, then *He* is the one responsible for child cancer, busloads of the faithful going over a cliff while on pilgrimage, floods, earthquakes and plagues that kill millions of innocent people, and well...just evil in general. If you actually believe that God *controls* all of these things, or worse *plans* all of this, then you pretty much have to admit that He's a psychotic thug. So to *avoid* having to admit that they had invented PsychoThug God, believers came up with the Other Guy -- Satan -- someone they could blame for all of the shitty things they don't want to attribute to God. This is the kind of convoluted logic people get into once they try to invent a God and claim that He controls everything. Someone points out that you just stated that God controls what you consider evil just as much as He controls what you consider good, and your philosophy is fucked. So you invent a new imaginary character and amend your philosophy so it reads, OK, God controls everything...uh...*except* for that stuff we don't like...Satan controls that. Now you know. [ The preceding sermon was brought to you by Pastor Barry of the Blinding Light Church of the Presumptuous Assumption ] :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
Most modern-day Mexicans (and people of Mexican descent in other countries) are mestizos, of mixed indigenous and European ancestry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sa...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Is it possible? Most Mexican aren't even indigenous, especially in the north of the country where most of the violence takes place at the border. Non sequitur. I think a more likely explanation for the deaths is selfish American druggies who think that doing a line of coke on a saturday night doesn't hurt anyone. Non sequitur. The pope is an asshole. Non sequitur. Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mexican Catholics http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mex... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ The rest of the world may love Pope Francis, but Mexicans are furious that he is using their country as his reference point for drug violence and blaming the... View on www.newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ Preview by Yahoo Is it possible? Most Mexican aren't even indigenous, especially in the north of the country where most of the violence takes place at the border. Non sequitur. I think a more likely explanation for the deaths is selfish American druggies who think that doing a line of coke on a saturday night doesn't hurt anyone. Non sequitur. The pope is an asshole. Non sequitur. Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mexican Catholics http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mex... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ The rest of the world may love Pope Francis, but Mexicans are furious that he is using their country as his reference point for drug violence and blaming the... View on www.newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
why on earth anyone would think that Gibson would make an historically accurate
movie is beyond me, especially considering the historically INaccurate movies
he made like Braveheart and that damnable Patriot, which was, in terms of
history complete bullshit.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 2:25 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Salyavin,
As shown in Mel Gibson's movie, Apocalypto, the ancient Aztec culture was based
on drugs and hallucinogens taken by the priests to gain visions of their gods.
As such, we can assume that the rest of the population was also taking drugs to
gain the visions of their gods as well. We can see this drug culture in the
symbols used in decorating their temples and pyramids--specifically, the snake
which represents Rahu, the Hindu god of illusion and delusion.
It is further conceivable that the victims for the sacrifices were given drugs
to become docile, in their hallucinations, to participate in their impending
deaths.
Aren't these similar to the drug culture today in Mexico and the USA?
I don't think so no. The Aztec priests might have taken hallucinogens but that
doesn't follow that the general populace did. And even if it was similar it
doesn't follow that there is some sort of universal system whereby punishment
for events is meted out to later generations or even to people living in the
same place.
These days everyone is into cocaine which is a different kettle of bananas to
hallucinogenics anyway.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
The Pope said so. But the Mexicans are furious. It's also possible that the
violence is due to the past karma of the country--such as the sacrifice of
people to the Aztec gods, before the Spaniards came to Mexico.
Is it possible? Most Mexican aren't even indigenous, especially in the north of
the country where most of the violence takes place at the border.
I think a more likely explanation for the deaths is selfish American druggies
who think that doing a line of coke on a saturday night doesn't hurt anyone.
The pope is an asshole.
Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mexican Catholics
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[FairfieldLife] “A Wakeful Hypometabolic Physiologic,”
American Journal of Physiology 221, no. 3 (U.S.A. 1971): 795-799 One could propose this is one of those papers that helped to revolutionize health in a larger world. The first scientific journal - Philosophical Transactions - was published 350 years ago this month. Five research papers that revolutionised health.. http://www.bbc.com/news/health-31869173 http://www.bbc.com/news/health-31869173 JaiGuruYou, -Buck in a wakeful hypobetabolic physiologic meditation community in Fairfield, Iowa
[FairfieldLife] Chopra's PR pitch for meditation
Chopra's meditation Vedic Wisdom | The Chopra Center | | | | | | | | | | | Vedic Wisdom | The Chopra CenterUsing Shakti Mantras to Enhance Your Primordial Sound Mantra Practice Your Personal Pranava or Primordial Sound | | | | View on www.chopra.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM reloaded
From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
I heard that black colored leather coats, and cat-suits for ladies, are the
only real protections against penetrating evil electro-magnetic waves, not
white as Pana Wave erroneously tought.
The TM movements upper class would be well advised to abandon their supremist
white/creme uniforms in favor of this stylish leather suits of Neo, Trinity
and Morpheus. Wouldn't that be cool? (Okay, Tony Nader looks here like a
catholic priest.)
It probably surprises no one to learn that I actually own a long, ankle-length
black leather coat. I bought it once in Amsterdam at an outdoor market for only
50 Euros. I've since seen similar coats on sale in stores for 5 to 6 times
that, so I got a screamin' deal.
I don't actually wear it much, though, because it's far too accessible. In a
Castanedan sense -- it attracts attention like a magnet. It's like the polar
opposite of my normal inaccessible These are not the droids you're looking
for style. I walk down the street wearing that coat and people react like
fuckin' Morpheus came to town. :-)
Since you have brought up enlightened fashion, however, I'll pile on. Suffice
it to say that the proper attire for a Fred Lenz-Rama student was not quite
what proper attire was for a TM teacher. Rama was into success and the
trappings of success. Because he was an occultist, he was very aware of how
clothing can be used as an instrument of power. He urged his students to go
into IT and become successful at it, and to do that you needed to look the
part in interviews. So the guy literally held fashion shows at his seminars,
in which students of both sexes came up on stage in their best interview
outfits, and then he'd comment on them, along the lines of This outfit had
power...she'd ace the interview, or A sloppy fit, which will be perceived
subconsciously as you having a sloppy mind...pay the extra money for a good
tailor.
It was really FUN, after a dozen years in and around the TM movement, to be
part of a spiritual movement and occasionally get to dress up. I still own a
tuxedo from the period in which we lived in New York. We'd have elegant formal
dinners at The Pierre or Windows On The World or Nirvana (a great rooftop
Indian restaurant on Central Park South, overlooking the park) -- the guys all
in tuxes and the women in evening gowns. Other times we'd go out en masse to a
Techno club and go dancing, and so we had outfits that fit in there, too.
I want to make clear, since I don't think I've ever talked about this here on
FFL before, that all of this dress up really *was* FUN for me. But at the
same time I think I learned valuable spiritual lessons from it. The game was
not about dressing up per se. It was about learning how to fit in at all
levels of society -- from the most down-and-dirty New York Techno clubs to the
finest restaurants in the city. It was an entertaining and IMO valuable
practical exercise in Castanedan inaccessibility and the Tibetan notion of
wearing caretaker personalities that suit the circumstances you find yourself
in.
Anyway, in this particular spiritual group, black was considered a power
color. If you really, really want to *kill* an interview or make an important
sale of your own product, you wear black. Duh.
My particular interview suit came from Kenzo in Paris. It's just to die for.
I paid way too much for it, and had it custom-tailored. But when I put it on, I
feel like fuckin' James Bond. The amount I invested in that suit repaid itself
many times over, because I was *never* turned down for an interview or a sales
presentation while wearing this suit. It's magic. :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
SpringSale! !Black is in fashion! Expect to see crème colored suits showup at
the Bargain Box on the price marked-down racks this month!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reloaded
I heard that black colored leather coats, and cat-suits for ladies, are the only real protections against penetrating evil electro-magnetic waves, not white as Pana Wave erroneously tought. The TM movements upper class would be well advised to abandon their supremist white/creme uniforms in favor of this stylish leather suits of Neo, Trinity and Morpheus. Wouldn't that be cool? (Okay, Tony Nader looks here like a catholic priest.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Spring Sale! !Black is in fashion! Expect to see crème colored suits show up at the Bargain Box on the price marked-down racks this month! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Timeline Photos - Chi-Ting Apocalypse | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ChiTingApocalypse/photos/a.537209209648184.1073741828.531974113505027/807430292626073/?type=1theater https://www.facebook.com/ChiTingApocalypse/photos/a.537209209648184.1073741828.531974113505027/807430292626073/?type=1theater Timeline Photos - Chi-Ting Apocalypse | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ChiTingApocalypse/photos/a.537209209648184.1073741828.531974113505027/807430292626073/?type=1theater It's Da King of TM™, the Rockin' Raja himself - Maharaja Adhiraj Raja Ram - formerly known as plain ol' Tony Nader (official successor of Maharishi of. View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/ChiTingApocalypse/photos/a.537209209648184.1073741828.531974113505027/807430292626073/?type=1theater Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Could it be...Satan?
Here's my theory about Satan, Old Nick, Lucifer, Beelzebub, Mephistopheles, or whatever you choose to call Him/It. Be warned. :-) Basically, as I see it, no such entity as Satan exists, just as no such entity as God exists. Satan is just something that believers in God thought up to cover their own philosophical short-sightedness. See, once these believers had invented a God who creates everything and runs everything according to His cosmic plan, they suddenly realized that they'd boxed themselves in and created a kind of nightmare for themselves. If, as they had already taught all their believer-followers, God runs *everything*, then *He* is the one responsible for child cancer, busloads of the faithful going over a cliff while on pilgrimage, floods, earthquakes and plagues that kill millions of innocent people, and well...just evil in general. If you actually believe that God *controls* all of these things, or worse *plans* all of this, then you pretty much have to admit that He's a psychotic thug. So to *avoid* having to admit that they had invented PsychoThug God, believers came up with the Other Guy -- Satan -- someone they could blame for all of the shitty things they don't want to attribute to God. This is the kind of convoluted logic people get into once they try to invent a God and claim that He controls everything. Someone points out that you just stated that God controls what you consider evil just as much as He controls what you consider good, and your philosophy is fucked. So you invent a new imaginary character and amend your philosophy so it reads, OK, God controls everything...uh...*except* for that stuff we don't like...Satan controls that. Now you know. [ The preceding sermon was brought to you by Pastor Barry of the Blinding Light Church of the Presumptuous Assumption ] :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM reloaded
You failed to post a photo of your own face and torso, There is probably a good reason for not doing that. Go figure. Obviously, the best protection against electro-magnetic waves would be a Force Field. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I heard that black colored leather coats, and cat-suits for ladies, are the only real protections against penetrating evil electro-magnetic waves, not white as Pana Wave erroneously tought. The TM movements upper class would be well advised to abandon their supremist white/creme uniforms in favor of this stylish leather suits of Neo, Trinity and Morpheus. Wouldn't that be cool? (Okay, Tony Nader looks here like a catholic priest.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Spring Sale! !Black is in fashion! Expect to see crème colored suits show up at the Bargain Box on the price marked-down racks this month! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Timeline Photos - Chi-Ting Apocalypse | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ChiTingApocalypse/photos/a.537209209648184.1073741828.531974113505027/807430292626073/?type=1theater https://www.facebook.com/ChiTingApocalypse/photos/a.537209209648184.1073741828.531974113505027/807430292626073/?type=1theater Timeline Photos - Chi-Ting Apocalypse | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/ChiTingApocalypse/photos/a.537209209648184.1073741828.531974113505027/807430292626073/?type=1theater It's Da King of TM™, the Rockin' Raja himself - Maharaja Adhiraj Raja Ram - formerly known as plain ol' Tony Nader (official successor of Maharishi of. View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/ChiTingApocalypse/photos/a.537209209648184.1073741828.531974113505027/807430292626073/?type=1theater Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra's PR pitch for meditation
Most people, including many TMers and TM teachers, don't know where the TM bija mantras come from - this apparently includes MJ, DC and DF. Most of the TM bija mantras are shakti mantras from the Sri Vidya tradition. Sri Vidya is not just another Tantric sect. The mantras of TM are DIRECTLY related to Sri Vidya. In TM you get only one single bija mantra - that's all you need, just one seed sound. Then, you add a little fertilizer and watch it grow. Just water the root and enjoy the fruit. Go in and meditate, then come out and radiate. It's not complicated. It is a fact that all the Shankaracharyas agree that the Saraswati Dasanamis worship the Sri Vidya. The Sri Yantra is ensconced on the mandir at Jyotirmath. All of the Adwaita Sannyasins believe that the Adi Shankara established four mathas as seats of learning and for the worship of Sri Vidya. According to the Shankaracharya of Sringeri, the Adi Shankara placed the Sri Yantra, symbol of Tripurasundari, with the TM mantras inscribed thereon, at each of the seats of learning - Dwarka, Puri, Sringeri, and at Jyotirmath. You can see an image of the Sri Yantra in the photo below. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Chopra's meditation Vedic Wisdom | The Chopra Center http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic Vedic Wisdom | The Chopra Center http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic Using Shakti Mantras to Enhance Your Primordial Sound Mantra Practice Your Personal Pranava or Primordial Sound View on www.chopra.com http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic Preview by Yahoo Most of the TM bija mantras are shakti mantras from the Sri Vidya tradition. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Chopra's meditation Vedic Wisdom | The Chopra Center http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic Vedic Wisdom | The Chopra Center http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic Using Shakti Mantras to Enhance Your Primordial Sound Mantra Practice Your Personal Pranava or Primordial Sound View on www.chopra.com http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] My kinda drone footage
They Just Released This Drone Footage Of The Himalayas… And It’s Jaw Dropping. | | | | | | | | | | | They Just Released This Drone Footage Of The Himalaya...Floating above Mount Everest, Earth's highest mountain | | | | View on fb-579.lifebuzz.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] My kinda drone footage
The title is misleading as the article states the footage was done via manned helicopter not a drone. It's shot drone like though because the cameras are attached to the exterior but even local news copters have a camera attached to the exterior around the nose (where ghetto birds put their search light). I got to see the Himalayas on my flight from Mumbai to Varanasi. They are quite spectacular. On 03/22/2015 07:45 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */They Just Released This Drone Footage Of The Himalayas… And It’s Jaw Dropping. http://fb-579.lifebuzz.com/himalayas//* image http://fb-579.lifebuzz.com/himalayas/ They Just Released This Drone Footage Of The Himalaya... http://fb-579.lifebuzz.com/himalayas/ Floating above Mount Everest, Earth's highest mountain View on fb-579.lifebuzz.com http://fb-579.lifebuzz.com/himalayas/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Love it!
Another TM'er makes good, but I don't think Dick Mays will be posting anything about this guy. Next to last paragraph in the article. “It’s not about what label you wear or title you carry, it’s about what goes on inside you,” he said in 2013. “I am a follower of Jesus. I practice … Buddhism. I am a student of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and I am a student in miracles and more than anything I am passionate about a path of reality that manifests in love and peace.” Florida City Yanks Tax-Exempt Status from 'Church' Running 'Sexy' Spring Break Nightclub | | | | | | | | | | | Florida City Yanks Tax-Exempt Status from 'Church' Runni...PANAMA CITY BEACH, Fla. -- Officials with a Florida city has revoked the local tax-exempt status from a so-called church that has been running what the city deems | | | | View on christiannews.net | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] For the ayurveda aficionados
Medicinal plant crisis hits pharmaceutical companies : India, News - India Today | | | | | | | | | | | Medicinal plant crisis hits pharmaceutical companies : I...Medicinal plant crisis, pharmaceutical companies, AYUSH, Acharya Balkrishna, NMPB | | | | View on indiatoday.intoday.in | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] Well Sal?
Will you be there? And how much is this costing the common folk? http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-3199
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
Mexico is 85% Catholic. Here is an explanation from a page on the website of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. This does not quite explain things, but somehow, because everything comes from God, it stands to reason that God is responsible for everything: Morality Made in the Image of God The most basic principle of the Christian moral life is the awareness that every person bears the dignity of being made in the image of God. He has given us an immortal soul and through the gifts of intelligence and reason enables us to understand the order of things established in his creation. God has also given us a free will to seek and love what is true, good, and beautiful. Sadly, because of the Fall, we also suffer the impact of Original Sin, which darkens our minds, weakens our wills, and inclines us to sin. Baptism delivers us from Original Sin but not from its effects—especially the inclination to sin, concupiscence. Within us, then, is both the powerful surge toward the good because we are made in the image of God, and the darker impulses toward evil because of the effects of Original Sin. Adolph Hitler was Catholic too. And if you read the Bible, God seemed to have a fetish for having living beings sacrificed in his name. So according to the explanation above, when you read the story where original sin came from, it is all because of some stupid tree God placed in a garden somewhere. That really explains things doesn't it? By the way Mel Gibson is Catholic. Apocalypto ends with the Spanish Catholics coming to the shores, bringing that good old Catholic faith to the poor savages. It did not work out so well it seems, even though I think Gibson implied that the savagery would end with the arrival of the Christians. Correlation is not causation. But you really have to watch out for this God fellow and his messengers. Note that the dates of the Church's Spanish Inquisition was from 1478 to 1834 begun at the behest of the king and queen of Spain to 'purify' Spain of unholy influences, but all they did was bring the unholy influence of religious thinking to new heights of pain. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin,As shown in Mel Gibson's movie, Apocalypto, the ancient Aztec culture was based on drugs and hallucinogens taken by the priests to gain visions of their gods. As such, we can assume that the rest of the population was also taking drugs to gain the visions of their gods as well. We can see this drug culture in the symbols used in decorating their temples and pyramids--specifically, the snake which represents Rahu, the Hindu god of illusion and delusion. It is further conceivable that the victims for the sacrifices were given drugs to become docile, in their hallucinations, to participate in their impending deaths. Aren't these similar to the drug culture today in Mexico and the USA? I don't think so no. The Aztec priests might have taken hallucinogens but that doesn't follow that the general populace did. And even if it was similar it doesn't follow that there is some sort of universal system whereby punishment for events is meted out to later generations or even to people living in the same place. These days everyone is into cocaine which is a different kettle of bananas to hallucinogenics anyway.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chopra's PR pitch for meditation
Nice explanation by David Frawely and re-iterates things I've said on FFL about bija mantras (or beej as Indians pronounce it). Bija mantras predate Shankara as tantra was very popular in India around 300-600 CE. I've also mentioned that TM uses the bijas for the first technique because anyone can teach them and the puja is even needed. Also if you read the explanation you may reason why they won't work for everyone. On 03/22/2015 07:13 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Chopra's meditation Vedic Wisdom | The Chopra Center http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic image http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic Vedic Wisdom | The Chopra Center http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic Using Shakti Mantras to Enhance Your Primordial Sound Mantra Practice Your Personal Pranava or Primordial Sound View on www.chopra.com http://www.chopra.com/teacher/jun13/vedic Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Pastor Barry, Do you believe that human beings have a free will to choose between good and evil? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Here's my theory about Satan, Old Nick, Lucifer, Beelzebub, Mephistopheles, or whatever you choose to call Him/It. Be warned. :-) Basically, as I see it, no such entity as Satan exists, just as no such entity as God exists. Satan is just something that believers in God thought up to cover their own philosophical short-sightedness. See, once these believers had invented a God who creates everything and runs everything according to His cosmic plan, they suddenly realized that they'd boxed themselves in and created a kind of nightmare for themselves. If, as they had already taught all their believer-followers, God runs *everything*, then *He* is the one responsible for child cancer, busloads of the faithful going over a cliff while on pilgrimage, floods, earthquakes and plagues that kill millions of innocent people, and well...just evil in general. If you actually believe that God *controls* all of these things, or worse *plans* all of this, then you pretty much have to admit that He's a psychotic thug. So to *avoid* having to admit that they had invented PsychoThug God, believers came up with the Other Guy -- Satan -- someone they could blame for all of the shitty things they don't want to attribute to God. This is the kind of convoluted logic people get into once they try to invent a God and claim that He controls everything. Someone points out that you just stated that God controls what you consider evil just as much as He controls what you consider good, and your philosophy is fucked. So you invent a new imaginary character and amend your philosophy so it reads, OK, God controls everything...uh...*except* for that stuff we don't like...Satan controls that. Now you know. [ The preceding sermon was brought to you by Pastor Barry of the Blinding Light Church of the Presumptuous Assumption ] :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, As shown in Mel Gibson's movie, Apocalypto, the ancient Aztec culture was based on drugs and hallucinogens taken by the priests to gain visions of their gods. As such, we can assume that the rest of the population was also taking drugs to gain the visions of their gods as well. We can see this drug culture in the symbols used in decorating their temples and pyramids--specifically, the snake which represents Rahu, the Hindu god of illusion and delusion. It is further conceivable that the victims for the sacrifices were given drugs to become docile, in their hallucinations, to participate in their impending deaths. Aren't these similar to the drug culture today in Mexico and the USA? I don't think so no. The Aztec priests might have taken hallucinogens but that doesn't follow that the general populace did. And even if it was similar it doesn't follow that there is some sort of universal system whereby punishment for events is meted out to later generations or even to people living in the same place. These days everyone is into cocaine which is a different kettle of bananas to hallucinogenics anyway. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The Pope said so. But the Mexicans are furious. It's also possible that the violence is due to the past karma of the country--such as the sacrifice of people to the Aztec gods, before the Spaniards came to Mexico. Is it possible? Most Mexican aren't even indigenous, especially in the north of the country where most of the violence takes place at the border. I think a more likely explanation for the deaths is selfish American druggies who think that doing a line of coke on a saturday night doesn't hurt anyone. The pope is an asshole. Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mexican Catholics http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mex... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ The rest of the world may love Pope Francis, but Mexicans are furious that he is using their country as his reference point for drug violence and blaming the... View on www.newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chopra's PR pitch for meditation
At Sringeri, the principal deity, Saradambal, the Goddess of Learning, is a focus of a mighty spiritual force - pure consciousness. According to my informant, Saradamba, by all legendary accounts, is a deity of Kashmir who was literally brought down to the south of India by the Adi Shankara. Tradition says that Shankara installed the image, made of sandalwood, on a Sri Yantra drawn by himself. Mystic and Seer Apparently the 33rd Shankaracharya of the Sringeri Matha died before he could give all the initiations to the 34th, his successor. However, the 33rd is reputed to have said: Worship of Sri Yantra is a must for the Swamis of the peetha. Go figure. Notes: Normally the Sri Vidya mantra initiation would be done by the guru, but Narasimha Bharati had passed away before his disciple arrived at Sringeri. Hence the mantropadesa was done by Srikanta Sastri. He had been initiated into it by Narasimha Bharati Mahaswami the34th. The Pontiff's rein was from 1912 to 1953, so he was a contemporary of SBS. The 33rd. was Sri Narasimha Bharati Mahaswami, making him a contemporary of SBS's guru, Swami Krishanand Saraswati. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Nice explanation by David Frawely and re-iterates things I've said on FFL about bija mantras (or beej as Indians pronounce it). Bija mantras predate Shankara as tantra was very popular in India around 300-600 CE. I've also mentioned that TM uses the bijas for the first technique because anyone can teach them and the puja is even needed. Also if you read the explanation you may reason why they won't work for everyone. On 03/22/2015 07:13 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Chopra's meditation Vedic Wisdom | The Chopra Center Vedic Wisdom | The Chopra Center Using Shakti Mantras to Enhance Your Primordial Sound Mantra Practice Your Personal Pranava or Primordial Sound View on www.chopra.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chopra's PR pitch for meditation
On 03/22/2015 04:55 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Indians call them bij only because they drop the last syllable when they speak Hindi or other Sanskrit language derivatives. Thus they call Buddha Buddh which sounds strange to Western ears. That's correct, the a at the end is silent. Frawley is useful for understanding the background of Tantric yoga and the basis of the Vedic hymns. Most of his Vedic stuff is a reiteration of Sri Aurobindo. However, reading his books leaves the reader rather empty because the tradition is a hearing lineage of sound expression. David had a tantra teacher in India and there is a picture of him with his teacher in some of his books. Tantra, though, isn't exactly rocket science and I I think the best way to learn is from a village tantric because they keep the teaching simple which works better for busy westerners. Much more effective is Vyas Houston's CD - Bija Mantra and Chakra Tuning which accurately produces the Sanskrit sounds. It introduces a particular method of chanting the mantras thatenergizes the chakras. Learning Sanskrit will give you accurate pronunciation. However there *is* northern and southern Indian pronunciation of Sanskrit. I learned from Houston's series but noted that a friend used a different pronunciation and she explained the two distinctions. Without learning this sound-stream patterning all this stuff is rather hollow. Not necessarily.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
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Underground From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
MJ,
Which part of Apocalypto do you consider historically inaccurate?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
why on earth anyone would think that Gibson would make an historically accurate
movie is beyond me, especially considering the historically INaccurate movies
he made like Braveheart and that damnable Patriot, which was, in terms of
history complete bullshit.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 2:25 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Salyavin,
As shown in Mel Gibson's movie, Apocalypto, the ancient Aztec culture was based
on drugs and hallucinogens taken by the priests to gain visions of their gods.
As such, we can assume that the rest of the population was also taking drugs to
gain the visions of their gods as well. We can see this drug culture in the
symbols used in decorating their temples and pyramids--specifically, the snake
which represents Rahu, the Hindu god of illusion and delusion.
It is further conceivable that the victims for the sacrifices were given drugs
to become docile, in their hallucinations, to participate in their impending
deaths.
Aren't these similar to the drug culture today in Mexico and the USA?
I don't think so no. The Aztec priests might have taken hallucinogens but that
doesn't follow that the general populace did. And even if it was similar it
doesn't follow that there is some sort of universal system whereby punishment
for events is meted out to later generations or even to people living in the
same place.
These days everyone is into cocaine which is a different kettle of bananas to
hallucinogenics anyway.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
The Pope said so. But the Mexicans are furious. It's also possible that the
violence is due to the past karma of the country--such as the sacrifice of
people to the Aztec gods, before the Spaniards came to Mexico.
Is it possible? Most Mexican aren't even indigenous, especially in the north of
the country where most of the violence takes place at the border.
I think a more likely explanation for the deaths is selfish American druggies
who think that doing a line of coke on a saturday night doesn't hurt anyone.
The pope is an asshole.
Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mexican Catholics
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
why do you think the Aztec gods were non-existent? Any more so than the vedic
gods for example?
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
There was something good that happened when the Spaniards conquered Mexico.
They stopped the carnage of human sacrifices committed by the Aztecs to
propitiate their gods as part of their culture for centuries.
IMO, the success of the Conquistadores was mainly due to the cooperation of the
tribes who were subjugated and victimized by the Aztec culture. So, karma
played a big role in eradicating the evil of sacrificing people to a
nonexistent Aztec god.
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[FairfieldLife] sapphire and steel
Any of you Scorpions ever see an old BBC series called Sapphire and Steel? Was it any good?
Re: [FairfieldLife] sapphire and steel
I thought it was Sapphire and George Stevens.
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Any of you Scorpions ever see an old BBC series called Sapphire and Steel?
Was it any good?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
The Aztecs believed in teotl; an impersonal force that permeates and animates the universe. The Mexica gods themselves had no existence as distinct entities apart from representations, statues and figurines, of teotl. It's not complicated. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec#Mythology_and_religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec#Mythology_and_religion ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : why do you think the Aztec gods were non-existent? Non sequitur. Any more so than the vedic gods for example? Non sequitur. From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico There was something good that happened when the Spaniards conquered Mexico. They stopped the carnage of human sacrifices committed by the Aztecs to propitiate their gods as part of their culture for centuries. IMO, the success of the Conquistadores was mainly due to the cooperation of the tribes who were subjugated and victimized by the Aztec culture. So, karma played a big role in eradicating the evil of sacrificing people to a nonexistent Aztec god. Nonetheless, I'm not condoning the atrocities that were committed by the Conquistadores to the aboriginal peoples.
Re: [FairfieldLife] sapphire and steel
This one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqah0bXh19E Has rather high ratings on IMDB. And it was an ITV series not BBC. On 03/22/2015 06:37 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Any of you Scorpions ever see an old BBC series called Sapphire and Steel? Was it any good?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Love it!
Obviously, not everyone is able to maintain the celibate life-style like some of you FFL informants. LoL! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Another TM'er makes good, but I don't think Dick Mays will be posting anything about this guy. Next to last paragraph in the article. “It’s not about what label you wear or title you carry, it’s about what goes on inside you,” he said in 2013. “I am a follower of Jesus. I practice … Buddhism. I am a student of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and I am a student in miracles and more than anything I am passionate about a path of reality that manifests in love and peace.” Florida City Yanks Tax-Exempt Status from 'Church' Running 'Sexy' Spring Break Nightclub http://christiannews.net/2015/03/12/florida-city-yanks-tax-exempt-status-from-church-running-sexy-spring-break-nightclub/ http://christiannews.net/2015/03/12/florida-city-yanks-tax-exempt-status-from-church-running-sexy-spring-break-nightclub/ Florida City Yanks Tax-Exempt Status from 'Church' Runni... http://christiannews.net/2015/03/12/florida-city-yanks-tax-exempt-status-from-church-running-sexy-spring-break-nightclub/ PANAMA CITY BEACH, Fla. -- Officials with a Florida city has revoked the local tax-exempt status from a so-called church that has been running what the city deems View on christiannews.net http://christiannews.net/2015/03/12/florida-city-yanks-tax-exempt-status-from-church-running-sexy-spring-break-nightclub/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: For the ayurveda aficionados
See if you can put the pipe down and try stepping back a few feet from the computer keyboard. Take a few deep breaths and try to relax and come slowly out of the trance. Medicinal plants have been known and used for a very long time in India. But in fact, cannabis was probably introduced by the Aryan speakers to the Scythians, the Thracians and the Dacians and hence to the inhabitants of South Asia, the Indians, not the other way around. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Medicinal plant crisis hits pharmaceutical companies : India, News - India Today http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/medicinal-plant-crisis-pharmaceutical-companies-ayush-acharya-balkrishna-nmpb/1/425102.html http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/medicinal-plant-crisis-pharmaceutical-companies-ayush-acharya-balkrishna-nmpb/1/425102.html Medicinal plant crisis hits pharmaceutical companies : I... http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/medicinal-plant-crisis-pharmaceutical-companies-ayush-acharya-balkrishna-nmpb/1/425102.html Medicinal plant crisis, pharmaceutical companies, AYUSH, Acharya Balkrishna, NMPB View on indiatoday.intoday.in http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/medicinal-plant-crisis-pharmaceutical-companies-ayush-acharya-balkrishna-nmpb/1/425102.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chopra's PR pitch for meditation
Indians call them bij only because they drop the last syllable when they speak Hindi or other Sanskrit language derivatives. Thus they call Buddha Buddh which sounds strange to Western ears. Frawley is useful for understanding the background of Tantric yoga and the basis of the Vedic hymns. Most of his Vedic stuff is a reiteration of Sri Aurobindo. However, reading his books leaves the reader rather empty because the tradition is a hearing lineage of sound expression. Much more effective is Vyas Houston's CD - Bija Mantra and Chakra Tuning which accurately produces the Sanskrit sounds. It introduces a particular method of chanting the mantras that energizes the chakras. Without learning this sound-stream patterning all this stuff is rather hollow.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
Peyote has been used for at least 5,700 years by Native Americans in Mexico. Work cited: Prehistoric peyote use: alkaloid analysis and radiocarbon dating of archaeological specimens of Lophophora from Texas by El-Seedi HR, De Smet PA, Beck O, Possnert G, Bruhn JG PMID 15990261 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mescaline http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mescaline ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Mexico is 85% Catholic. Here is an explanation from a page on the website of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. This does not quite explain things, but somehow, because everything comes from God, it stands to reason that God is responsible for everything: Non sequitur. Morality Made in the Image of God The most basic principle of the Christian moral life is the awareness that every person bears the dignity of being made in the image of God. He has given us an immortal soul and through the gifts of intelligence and reason enables us to understand the order of things established in his creation. God has also given us a free will to seek and love what is true, good, and beautiful. Sadly, because of the Fall, we also suffer the impact of Original Sin, which darkens our minds, weakens our wills, and inclines us to sin. Baptism delivers us from Original Sin but not from its effects—especially the inclination to sin, concupiscence. Within us, then, is both the powerful surge toward the good because we are made in the image of God, and the darker impulses toward evil because of the effects of Original Sin. Non sequitur. Adolph Hitler was Catholic too. And if you read the Bible, God seemed to have a fetish for having living beings sacrificed in his name. So according to the explanation above, when you read the story where original sin came from, it is all because of some stupid tree God placed in a garden somewhere. That really explains things doesn't it? By the way Mel Gibson is Catholic. Apocalypto ends with the Spanish Catholics coming to the shores, bringing that good old Catholic faith to the poor savages. It did not work out so well it seems, even though I think Gibson implied that the savagery would end with the arrival of the Christians. Non sequitur. Correlation is not causation. But you really have to watch out for this God fellow and his messengers. Note that the dates of the Church's Spanish Inquisition was from 1478 to 1834 begun at the behest of the king and queen of Spain to 'purify' Spain of unholy influences, but all they did was bring the unholy influence of religious thinking to new heights of pain. Non sequitur. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin,As shown in Mel Gibson's movie, Apocalypto, the ancient Aztec culture was based on drugs and hallucinogens taken by the priests to gain visions of their gods. As such, we can assume that the rest of the population was also taking drugs to gain the visions of their gods as well. We can see this drug culture in the symbols used in decorating their temples and pyramids--specifically, the snake which represents Rahu, the Hindu god of illusion and delusion. It is further conceivable that the victims for the sacrifices were given drugs to become docile, in their hallucinations, to participate in their impending deaths. Aren't these similar to the drug culture today in Mexico and the USA? I don't think so no. The Aztec priests might have taken hallucinogens but that doesn't follow that the general populace did. And even if it was similar it doesn't follow that there is some sort of universal system whereby punishment for events is meted out to later generations or even to people living in the same place. These days everyone is into cocaine which is a different kettle of bananas to hallucinogenics anyway. Morality Made in the Image of God The most basic principle of the Christian moral life is the awareness that every person bears the dignity of being made in the image of God. He has given us an immortal soul and through the gifts of intelligence and reason enables us to understand the order of things established in his creation. God has also given us a free will to seek and love what is true, good, and beautiful. Sadly, because of the Fall, we also suffer the impact of Original Sin, which darkens our minds, weakens our wills, and inclines us to sin. Baptism delivers us from Original Sin but not from its effects—especially the inclination to sin, concupiscence. Within us, then, is both the powerful surge toward the good because we are made in the image of God, and the darker impulses toward evil because of the effects of Original Sin. Adolph Hitler was Catholic too. And if you read the Bible, God seemed to have a fetish for having living beings sacrificed in his name. So according to the explanation
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
MJ, Which part of Apocalypto do you consider historically inaccurate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : why on earth anyone would think that Gibson would make an historically accurate movie is beyond me, especially considering the historically INaccurate movies he made like Braveheart and that damnable Patriot, which was, in terms of history complete bullshit. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 2:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, As shown in Mel Gibson's movie, Apocalypto, the ancient Aztec culture was based on drugs and hallucinogens taken by the priests to gain visions of their gods. As such, we can assume that the rest of the population was also taking drugs to gain the visions of their gods as well. We can see this drug culture in the symbols used in decorating their temples and pyramids--specifically, the snake which represents Rahu, the Hindu god of illusion and delusion. It is further conceivable that the victims for the sacrifices were given drugs to become docile, in their hallucinations, to participate in their impending deaths. Aren't these similar to the drug culture today in Mexico and the USA? I don't think so no. The Aztec priests might have taken hallucinogens but that doesn't follow that the general populace did. And even if it was similar it doesn't follow that there is some sort of universal system whereby punishment for events is meted out to later generations or even to people living in the same place. These days everyone is into cocaine which is a different kettle of bananas to hallucinogenics anyway. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The Pope said so. But the Mexicans are furious. It's also possible that the violence is due to the past karma of the country--such as the sacrifice of people to the Aztec gods, before the Spaniards came to Mexico. Is it possible? Most Mexican aren't even indigenous, especially in the north of the country where most of the violence takes place at the border. I think a more likely explanation for the deaths is selfish American druggies who think that doing a line of coke on a saturday night doesn't hurt anyone. The pope is an asshole. Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mexican Catholics http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mex... http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ The rest of the world may love Pope Francis, but Mexicans are furious that he is using their country as his reference point for drug violence and blaming the... View on www.newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
MJ, I don't see anyone making any spiritual or rational arguments for the existence of these Aztec gods. Do you have any evidence for their existence? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : why do you think the Aztec gods were non-existent? Any more so than the vedic gods for example? From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico There was something good that happened when the Spaniards conquered Mexico. They stopped the carnage of human sacrifices committed by the Aztecs to propitiate their gods as part of their culture for centuries. IMO, the success of the Conquistadores was mainly due to the cooperation of the tribes who were subjugated and victimized by the Aztec culture. So, karma played a big role in eradicating the evil of sacrificing people to a nonexistent Aztec god. Nonetheless, I'm not condoning the atrocities that were committed by the Conquistadores to the aboriginal peoples.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
jr_esq, Barry's job is not 'pastor', it's more like 'pester'. It is a highly dignified profession, the exact opposite of what a 'pastor' does (enlightenment, in other words, is a great undoing, undoing what pastors try to do). Barry writes quickly, but sometimes he makes minor spelling errors, due to haste, hence he meant to say 'Pester Barry of the Grinding Might Lurch of the Voluptuous Resumption (more details of the church can be found online at http://tinyurl.com/ygvf8zb http://tinyurl.com/ygvf8zb as part of of the complete training required to become a true teacher of TM in all things. Of course Barry has eschewed this learning as he has moved on, leaving with the current crop of followers of M to carry on this tradition). Whether or not free will exists, it is not necessary to choose between good and evil because those concepts are simply in the imagination of human beings. In the world, there is only what happens, it is neither good nor bad. The mind maps such concepts like good and evil onto the world, but they are not real, but they may seem real to a mind that is unclear about the relationship of thought to what happens in the world. Here is a great explanation of how that happens (David Hume 1689): OF THE ORIGIN OF IDEAS. 11.Every one will readily allow, that there is a considerable difference between the perceptions of the mind, when a man feels the pain of excessive heat, or the pleasure of moderate warmth, and when he afterwards recalls to his memory this sensation, or anticipates it by his imagination. These faculties may mimic or copy the perceptions of the senses; but they never can entirely reach the force and vivacity of the original sentiment. The utmost we say of them, even when they operate with greatest vigour, is, that they represent their object in so lively a manner, that we could almost say we feel or see it: But, except the mind be disordered by disease or madness, they never can arrive at such a pitch of vivacity, as to render these perceptions altogether undistinguishable. All the colours of poetry, however splendid, can never paint natural objects in such a manner as to make the description be taken for a real landskip [landscape]. The most lively thought is still inferior to the dullest sensation. We may observe a like distinction to run through all the other perceptions of the mind. A man in a fit of anger, is actuated in a very different manner from one who only thinks of that emotion. If you tell me, that any person is in love, I easily understand your meaning, and form a just conception of his situation; but never can mistake that conception for the real disorders and agitations of the passion. When we reflect on our past sentiments and affections, our thought is a faithful mirror, and copies its objects truly; but the colours which it employs are faint and dull, in comparison of those in which our original perceptions were clothed. It requires no nice discernment or metaphysical head to mark the distinction between them. 12.Here therefore we may divide all the perceptions of the mind into two classes or species, which are distinguished by their different degrees of force and vivacity. The less forcible and lively are commonly denominated Thoughts or Ideas. The other species want a name in our language, and in most others; I suppose, because it was not requisite for any, but philosophical purposes, to rank them under a general term or appellation. Let us, therefore, use a little freedom, and call them Impressions; employing that word in a sense somewhat different from the usual. By the term impression, then, I mean all our more lively perceptions, when we hear, or see, or feel, or love, or hate, or desire, or will. And impressions are distinguished from ideas, which are the less lively perceptions, of which we are conscious, when we reflect on any of those sensations or movements above mentioned. 13.Nothing, at first view, may seem more unbounded than the thought of man, which not only escapes all human power and authority, but is not even restrained within the limits of nature and reality. To form monsters, and join incongruous shapes and appearances, costs the imagination no more trouble than to conceive the most natural and familiar objects. And while the body is confined to one planet, along which it creeps with pain and difficulty; the thought can in an instant transport us into the most distant regions of the universe; or even beyond the universe, into the unbounded chaos, where nature is supposed to lie in total confusion. What never was seen, or heard of, may yet be conceived; nor is any thing beyond the power of thought, except what implies an absolute contradiction. But though our thought seems to possess this unbounded liberty, we shall find, upon a nearer examination, that it is really confined within very narrow limits, and that all this creative power of the mind amounts
[FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Xeno, I'm using the title, Pastor, since he used it to describe himself. Also, you seem to think that good and evil do not exist. So, how do you explain what Adolph Hitler did during the Holocaust? And, more recently, how do you explain the behavior of the Islamic State rebels who killed innocent people in Iraq and Syria? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : jr_esq, Barry's job is not 'pastor', it's more like 'pester'. It is a highly dignified profession, the exact opposite of what a 'pastor' does (enlightenment, in other words, is a great undoing, undoing what pastors try to do). Barry writes quickly, but sometimes he makes minor spelling errors, due to haste, hence he meant to say 'Pester Barry of the Grinding Might Lurch of the Voluptuous Resumption (more details of the church can be found online at http://tinyurl.com/ygvf8zb http://tinyurl.com/ygvf8zb as part of of the complete training required to become a true teacher of TM in all things. Of course Barry has eschewed this learning as he has moved on, leaving with the current crop of followers of M to carry on this tradition). Whether or not free will exists, it is not necessary to choose between good and evil because those concepts are simply in the imagination of human beings. In the world, there is only what happens, it is neither good nor bad. The mind maps such concepts like good and evil onto the world, but they are not real, but they may seem real to a mind that is unclear about the relationship of thought to what happens in the world. Here is a great explanation of how that happens (David Hume 1689): OF THE ORIGIN OF IDEAS. 11.Every one will readily allow, that there is a considerable difference between the perceptions of the mind, when a man feels the pain of excessive heat, or the pleasure of moderate warmth, and when he afterwards recalls to his memory this sensation, or anticipates it by his imagination. These faculties may mimic or copy the perceptions of the senses; but they never can entirely reach the force and vivacity of the original sentiment. The utmost we say of them, even when they operate with greatest vigour, is, that they represent their object in so lively a manner, that we could almost say we feel or see it: But, except the mind be disordered by disease or madness, they never can arrive at such a pitch of vivacity, as to render these perceptions altogether undistinguishable. All the colours of poetry, however splendid, can never paint natural objects in such a manner as to make the description be taken for a real landskip [landscape]. The most lively thought is still inferior to the dullest sensation. We may observe a like distinction to run through all the other perceptions of the mind. A man in a fit of anger, is actuated in a very different manner from one who only thinks of that emotion. If you tell me, that any person is in love, I easily understand your meaning, and form a just conception of his situation; but never can mistake that conception for the real disorders and agitations of the passion. When we reflect on our past sentiments and affections, our thought is a faithful mirror, and copies its objects truly; but the colours which it employs are faint and dull, in comparison of those in which our original perceptions were clothed. It requires no nice discernment or metaphysical head to mark the distinction between them. 12.Here therefore we may divide all the perceptions of the mind into two classes or species, which are distinguished by their different degrees of force and vivacity. The less forcible and lively are commonly denominated Thoughts or Ideas. The other species want a name in our language, and in most others; I suppose, because it was not requisite for any, but philosophical purposes, to rank them under a general term or appellation. Let us, therefore, use a little freedom, and call them Impressions; employing that word in a sense somewhat different from the usual. By the term impression, then, I mean all our more lively perceptions, when we hear, or see, or feel, or love, or hate, or desire, or will. And impressions are distinguished from ideas, which are the less lively perceptions, of which we are conscious, when we reflect on any of those sensations or movements above mentioned. 13.Nothing, at first view, may seem more unbounded than the thought of man, which not only escapes all human power and authority, but is not even restrained within the limits of nature and reality. To form monsters, and join incongruous shapes and appearances, costs the imagination no more trouble than to conceive the most natural and familiar objects. And while the body is confined to one planet, along which it creeps with pain and difficulty; the thought can in an instant transport us into the most distant regions of the universe; or even beyond the universe, into the unbounded chaos, where nature is
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico
MJ, Mel Gibson said not to consider his movie as a historical documentary. That means he probably took artistic license to enhance his fictional work. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Take your pick: 'Apocalypto' a pack of inaccuracies | The San Diego Union-Tribune http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/20061212/news_1c12mel.html 'Apocalypto' a pack of inaccuracies | The San Diego Union-Tribune http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/20061212/news_1c12mel.html SignOnSanDiego.com, San Diego's city guide to arts and entertainment activities, events, bars, restaurants, hotels, shopping plus news, sports, classifieds and visitor info. View on www.utsandiego.com http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/20061212/news_1c12mel.html Preview by Yahoo http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061208-apocalypto-mel_2.html Apocalypto Tortures the Facts, Expert Says http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061208-apocalypto-mel_2.html Mass human death rituals, hidden jungle clans, stone killing columns—much of Mel Gibson movie rings false to at least one Maya expert. View on news.nationalgeograph... http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061208-apocalypto-mel_2.html Preview by Yahoo http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_alladdress=364x2969043 Maya Archaeologist Distressed American's Review of Apoca... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_alladdress=364x2969043 Maya Archaeologist Distressed American's Review of Apocalypto View on www.democraticunder... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_alladdress=364x2969043 Preview by Yahoo Apocalypto Tortures the Facts, Expert Says http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061208-apocalypto-mel_2.html Maya Archaeologist Distressed American's Review of Apocalypto - Democratic Underground http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_alladdress=364x2969043 From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico MJ, Which part of Apocalypto do you consider historically inaccurate? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : why on earth anyone would think that Gibson would make an historically accurate movie is beyond me, especially considering the historically INaccurate movies he made like Braveheart and that damnable Patriot, which was, in terms of history complete bullshit. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 2:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Satan Behind Drug Violence in Mexico ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, As shown in Mel Gibson's movie, Apocalypto, the ancient Aztec culture was based on drugs and hallucinogens taken by the priests to gain visions of their gods. As such, we can assume that the rest of the population was also taking drugs to gain the visions of their gods as well. We can see this drug culture in the symbols used in decorating their temples and pyramids--specifically, the snake which represents Rahu, the Hindu god of illusion and delusion. It is further conceivable that the victims for the sacrifices were given drugs to become docile, in their hallucinations, to participate in their impending deaths. Aren't these similar to the drug culture today in Mexico and the USA? I don't think so no. The Aztec priests might have taken hallucinogens but that doesn't follow that the general populace did. And even if it was similar it doesn't follow that there is some sort of universal system whereby punishment for events is meted out to later generations or even to people living in the same place. These days everyone is into cocaine which is a different kettle of bananas to hallucinogenics anyway. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : The Pope said so. But the Mexicans are furious. It's also possible that the violence is due to the past karma of the country--such as the sacrifice of people to the Aztec gods, before the Spaniards came to Mexico. Is it possible? Most Mexican aren't even indigenous, especially in the north of the country where most of the violence takes place at the border. I think a more likely explanation for the deaths is selfish American druggies who think that doing a line of coke on a saturday night doesn't hurt anyone. The pope is an asshole. Pope's Comments Linking Drugs, Satan Angering Mexican Catholics http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/pope-francis-drugs-mexico-catholics/2015/03/20/id/631535/
[FairfieldLife] Can Atheists be Allied with Believers?
This author thinks so. He thinks atheism is another form of tribalism. What do you think? Atheists’ self-defeating superiority: Why joining forces with religion is best for non-believers http://www.salon.com/2015/03/22/atheists_self_defeating_superiority_why_joining_forces_with_progressive_religion_is_best_for_non_believers/ http://www.salon.com/2015/03/22/atheists_self_defeating_superiority_why_joining_forces_with_progressive_religion_is_best_for_non_believers/ Atheists’ self-defeating superiority: Why joining for... http://www.salon.com/2015/03/22/atheists_self_defeating_superiority_why_joining_forces_with_progressive_religion_is_best_for_non_believers/ Prominent atheists like Bill Maher and Richard Dawkins judge people of faith. Here's why it's a recipe for failure View on www.salon.com http://www.salon.com/2015/03/22/atheists_self_defeating_superiority_why_joining_forces_with_progressive_religion_is_best_for_non_believers/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Human beings have free will. However, there is no such thing as good or
evil, so your question is irrelevant. Thanks for playing, and leave your
donation in the plate. :-)
From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com h
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Could it be...Satan?
Pastor Barry,
Do you believe that human beings have a free will to choose between good and
evil?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Here's my theory about Satan, Old Nick, Lucifer, Beelzebub, Mephistopheles, or
whatever you choose to call Him/It. Be warned. :-)
Basically, as I see it, no such entity as Satan exists, just as no such entity
as God exists. Satan is just something that believers in God thought up to
cover their own philosophical short-sightedness.
See, once these believers had invented a God who creates everything and runs
everything according to His cosmic plan, they suddenly realized that they'd
boxed themselves in and created a kind of nightmare for themselves. If, as they
had already taught all their believer-followers, God runs *everything*, then
*He* is the one responsible for child cancer, busloads of the faithful going
over a cliff while on pilgrimage, floods, earthquakes and plagues that kill
millions of innocent people, and well...just evil in general. If you actually
believe that God *controls* all of these things, or worse *plans* all of this,
then you pretty much have to admit that He's a psychotic thug.
So to *avoid* having to admit that they had invented PsychoThug God, believers
came up with the Other Guy -- Satan -- someone they could blame for all of the
shitty things they don't want to attribute to God.
This is the kind of convoluted logic people get into once they try to invent a
God and claim that He controls everything. Someone points out that you just
stated that God controls what you consider evil just as much as He controls
what you consider good, and your philosophy is fucked. So you invent a new
imaginary character and amend your philosophy so it reads, OK, God controls
everything...uh...*except* for that stuff we don't like...Satan controls that.
Now you know.
[ The preceding sermon was brought to you by Pastor Barry of the Blinding Light
Church of the Presumptuous Assumption ]
:-)
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