[FairfieldLife] Re: English soccer manager endorses TM

2016-05-06 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Relegation Battle? 

 Yep in an earlier confirmation of meditation in my own experience, I was on 
college ice hockey intramural teams at a university and noticed my own 
developing equanimity from meditating in being able to skate away from 
non-meditating opponents escalating and wanting to fight within hockey play and 
then letting them take the penalty time.  It was very clear with replication 
and so clear that a scientific chart could have been drawn up and paper 
published in a peer review journal on it.  Sport not exactly the sort you would 
associate with doing TM.  
  

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 By the way, Sam Allardyce, known as Big Sam, is a blunt-spoken, working-class 
northerner, not exactly the sort you would associate with doing TM. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From the Guardian. Maybe he should get his players to do it as well, looking 
at Sunderland's lowly position in the Premier League. 

Sam Allardyce: meditation helps me cope with relegation battle 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 
 Sam Allardyce: meditation helps me cope with relegati... 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 Sam Allardyce said that transcendental meditation has become a key weapon in 
his battle to keep Sunderland in the Premier League


 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 







[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 07-May-16 00:15:07 UTC

2016-05-06 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Recently Yahoo-groups can run mighty slow on the turn around for some posts 
made to the list.
 It is not consistent, some posts
 even making them back-to-back
 may come through directly
 while others might take some hours to appear, 
 if out of sequence. 
 But evidently posts do eventually come through
 at some point after you push the send button
 and allow things to process out of your device.
 It can take a saint's patience to witness.
 -JaiGuruYou
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: English soccer manager endorses TM

2016-05-06 Thread feste37
By the way, Sam Allardyce, known as Big Sam, is a blunt-spoken, working-class 
northerner, not exactly the sort you would associate with doing TM. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From the Guardian. Maybe he should get his players to do it as well, looking 
at Sunderland's lowly position in the Premier League. 

Sam Allardyce: meditation helps me cope with relegation battle 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 
 Sam Allardyce: meditation helps me cope with relegati... 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 Sam Allardyce said that transcendental meditation has become a key weapon in 
his battle to keep Sunderland in the Premier League


 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 





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[FairfieldLife] English soccer manager endorses TM

2016-05-06 Thread feste37
From the Guardian. Maybe he should get his players to do it as well, looking at 
Sunderland's lowly position in the Premier League. 

Sam Allardyce: meditation helps me cope with relegation battle 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 
 
 Sam Allardyce: meditation helps me cope with relegati... 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 Sam Allardyce said that transcendental meditation has become a key weapon in 
his battle to keep Sunderland in the Premier League
 
 
 
 View on www.theguardian.com 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader's new lot

2016-05-06 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Here in town all kinds of people tell me all kinds of information hoping to 
have perspectives shared more widely on FFL.  This comes along as E-mail from 
lurkers too using the FFL home page. 
 

 I also forward links direct to relevant posts on FFL to people who would be 
interested.  I did that with this thread on 'the new lot'. The e-mail excerpted 
below here came from a credible person inside the TMO who I know. 
 

 As things come in that are written as good journalism relevant to Farifield 
life I just won’t use people’s names in protecting people's privacy.  As there 
is good substantial content then names don’t necessarily matter.   People, both 
members and non-members of FFL, send all kinds of insight about Fairfield life 
hoping to have them shared with the community, anonymously. That is fine. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Salyavin wrote:
 

Full details provided if you like but it's all in the archives here. 

 Ask him to provide the "full details." Again, if he doesn't, I will.
 

 I think Doug should also tell us the source of the email he quotes (without 
mentioning names).
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

FW, e-mail:  "..officially, assured that no Movement funds, of any kind, from 
any source, were involved in this purchase. Rajaraam has had a family home 
there for years, and he’s relocating that home in order to be in proper vastu."

 

 Does that placate you? It doesn't me, full financial disclosure is the order 
of the day I'm afraid, I'm sick of watching my mates get ripped off for stupid 
prayers when it's highly unlikely they even do them. You might say that as they 
don't work it doesn't matter that they don't do them but it's hardly the point. 
I've spent decades watching the slick blackmailing of donations from the 
faithful just to see the promised buildings/courses whatever not happen. If 
people knew what was going on there would have to be some accountability.
 

 Just the other day I got a plea to double my monthly donations to the world 
peace programme (I don't actually make one but I know a lot who do) and all the 
while the King is larging it in Florida with his kids not even in a TM school! 
Doesn't he believe this stuff either?
 

 I smell major scam. And I smell it because I've been on the receiving end of 
it via the "vedaland" debacle, I know how good they are at this. Full details 
provided if you like but it's all in the archives here.
 

 Oh dear, well instead of lamenting your friends' gullibility and pulling your 
hair out, why not make it your mission to do some detective work and find out 
for sure where Dr Nader is getting his money from? I'm sure you could hire some 
investigative tax detective if you can't figure out how to do it yourself. 
Maybe you should write him a letter and ask him personally how he has managed 
to become a millionaire? For me, I hardly think having a few million dollars as 
a highly-trained professional is unusual but every man to his own belief. 
Perhaps if you ask nicely, Tony will even perform a yagya or two just to show 
his good faith. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 fw, e-mail:
 

 "As MUM struggles and as the movement struggles, the question will be - how 
can Maharaj continue to pour money in his personal home, while his "MUM family" 
struggles on in poverty? He is certainly likeable enough but surely, news like 
this will shake people up enough to ask the real questions?"
 

 -) Did you hear the news that Maharaj just invested in a half-acre lot in Palm 
Beach right down the road from his current estate 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=0ahUKEwj_j8uf9L3MAhWjkIMKHQteDecQFggdMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.palmbeachdailynews.com%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2Freal-estate%2Fpalm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom%2FnqDbj%2F=AFQjCNEhCAgVJdHxhLOlCy1uzNNTr6C6tw=u19zPT0QCJSPvWlrt_rIHA?
 

 

 awoelflebater@yahoo,com> wrote:

 

 Actually, that was my post below. I don't think that sounds like Rick, do you?
 

 But, for sure financial reports on all kinds of ways in which people within 
the Movement make their money and how donated money is spent should be 
mandatory and perhaps it is. Transparency is a good thing - and not just within 
the context of the invisibility sutra. 
 

 I don't have the time or the interest to start to look into financial reports 
the Movement may or may not publish but there seem to be some who are very 
interested in it and so I will leave it up to them to dig away. All I ever did 
was pay for my education at MIU and a mantra back in 1970 (all of my allowance 
at the time which was one pound sterling at the time which, I recall, was the 
equivalent of $1.40 US). Other than that I have neither donated time nor money 
to any other 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Thumb Drive

2016-05-06 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Om by the way,  

 The files fit on a 32GB thumb drive.
 

 The files are in a really well organized folder of about 22 GB.  
 

 It is an impressive bit of work done by some people.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is TM a New Religion? The Federal District Court

2016-05-06 Thread upfron...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]
I read a lot of the TM-free site last year and I can understand why some people 
feel the way they do in regard to MMY and his latter years’ emphasis upon it 
being essential to have such things as the correct architecture for “a man to 
be right” when originally all that was needed was the do the meditation 
practice regularly. To me, it perhaps demonstrates that just because a human 
has learnt meditation and has practiced it in close communion with masters, it 
does not mean that he is free from bias and human error.
  
 But I also think that the TM-free people have missed the beauty of the finer 
results of the practice of meditation, and in so doing they have become 
somewhat obsessed because this finer reality of regular meditation is missing – 
and I’m not confining this to TM or TM-Siddhis.
  
 When I apply my attention to “that which does not change”, I begin to see that 
it is actually “that which does not change” which is really doing the observing 
while my attention “disappears” or is seen as temporary. “That which does not 
change” is like a fine invisible “mist” that permeates everything, me, others 
and all, but it is the “mist” which sees and no longer whoever I thought was 
observing. i.e. “me”. It is very nice to be “mist”. I know some people say that 
Being has no attributes but I have to say that it has the attribute of being 
all-satisfaction. I believe this is just a human experience and the "mist" is 
the basis for something far more tangible and real yet to be revealed.

  
 So this is why I come to the conclusion that the TM-free people haven’t found 
the satisfaction of “I Am Being-ness” or else they could not be brought to make 
some of the statements I have read. I suppose this sounds crazy-talk to them.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader's new lot

2016-05-06 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Maybe they are buying the parcel just to Florida-flip it for a tidy gross 
profit to then donate the proceeds to support the science-based spiritual good 
works of global peace creating by the TM movement. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Maybe people are jumping to conclusions. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We’ll know more about this shortly from the top down.  Maharaja will be in 
Fairfield speaking to the meditating community on Monday.  

 

So the lot evidently is about achieving proper vastu and no movement money was 
used.  That does not mean that some Movement community courtier might not have 
furnish some money being helpful buying a little access, influence or favor of 
the Maharaja.  We are not in Kansas?  Someone else who seems to know the Naders 
says that they do not have that kind of money, that they are being helped.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Salyavin wrote:
 

Full details provided if you like but it's all in the archives here. 

 Ask him to provide the "full details." Again, if he doesn't, I will.
 

 I think Doug should also tell us the source of the email he quotes (without 
mentioning names).
 

 I also posted a link to some wikilinks financial statements from 2004-05 but 
they haven't shown up yet. Here is more: 
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Maharishi_developer_confidentialy_agreements,_legal_and_Sthapatya_Veda_documents,_2005
 
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Maharishi_developer_confidentialy_agreements,_legal_and_Sthapatya_Veda_documents,_2005
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

FW, e-mail:  "..officially, assured that no Movement funds, of any kind, from 
any source, were involved in this purchase. Rajaraam has had a family home 
there for years, and he’s relocating that home in order to be in proper vastu."

 

 Does that placate you? It doesn't me, full financial disclosure is the order 
of the day I'm afraid, I'm sick of watching my mates get ripped off for stupid 
prayers when it's highly unlikely they even do them. You might say that as they 
don't work it doesn't matter that they don't do them but it's hardly the point. 
I've spent decades watching the slick blackmailing of donations from the 
faithful just to see the promised buildings/courses whatever not happen. If 
people knew what was going on there would have to be some accountability.
 

 Just the other day I got a plea to double my monthly donations to the world 
peace programme (I don't actually make one but I know a lot who do) and all the 
while the King is larging it in Florida with his kids not even in a TM school! 
Doesn't he believe this stuff either?
 

 I smell major scam. And I smell it because I've been on the receiving end of 
it via the "vedaland" debacle, I know how good they are at this. Full details 
provided if you like but it's all in the archives here.
 

 Oh dear, well instead of lamenting your friends' gullibility and pulling your 
hair out, why not make it your mission to do some detective work and find out 
for sure where Dr Nader is getting his money from? I'm sure you could hire some 
investigative tax detective if you can't figure out how to do it yourself. 
Maybe you should write him a letter and ask him personally how he has managed 
to become a millionaire? For me, I hardly think having a few million dollars as 
a highly-trained professional is unusual but every man to his own belief. 
Perhaps if you ask nicely, Tony will even perform a yagya or two just to show 
his good faith. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 fw, e-mail:
 

 "As MUM struggles and as the movement struggles, the question will be - how 
can Maharaj continue to pour money in his personal home, while his "MUM family" 
struggles on in poverty? He is certainly likeable enough but surely, news like 
this will shake people up enough to ask the real questions?"
 

 -) Did you hear the news that Maharaj just invested in a half-acre lot in Palm 
Beach right down the road from his current estate 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=0ahUKEwj_j8uf9L3MAhWjkIMKHQteDecQFggdMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.palmbeachdailynews.com%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2Freal-estate%2Fpalm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom%2FnqDbj%2F=AFQjCNEhCAgVJdHxhLOlCy1uzNNTr6C6tw=u19zPT0QCJSPvWlrt_rIHA?
 

 

 awoelflebater@yahoo,com> wrote:

 

 Actually, that was my post below. I don't think that sounds like Rick, do you?
 

 But, for sure financial reports on all kinds of ways in which people within 
the Movement make their money and how donated money is spent should be 
mandatory and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Now What Mike?

2016-05-06 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, I've been going through that for the past 7+ years.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 10:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Now What Mike?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'd never vote *for* Trump but it wouldn't take much persuasion to vote 
*against* Hillary. 
If Hillary is elected, she'll have at least one but probably two or even three 
Supreme Court appointments. That is scary!
Face it, the world is scary but one with Drumpf is downright terrifying. Not to 
mention I'd throw up every time I had to look at his face or listen to his 
raging narcissism. 

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 11:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Now What Mike?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

ya know they say life's a bitch and then you die.
 If our only choice is Hillary or Trump, how can you say America ISN"T under 
judgment?
That implies there is a judger, someone greater than ourselves who makes the 
rules and enforces them. I personally believe we create our own circumstances 
based on choices and our ability to actually think and choose. Trump will not 
be an accident (and Hillary I can live with). Trump is someone created by the 
people. He couldn't have gotten this far in the election process alone, believe 
me. It takes an asshole like him and enough others to put him where he is now - 
poised to possibly take the White House but being the optimist I am I still say 
Hillary will be Prez. Are you actually going to vote for Trump now that Cruz 
has come to his senses, Mike? Please say "no". I suggest you write in "Daffy 
Duck" instead.

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 8:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Now What Mike?

 
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/the-day-the-republican-party-died/481176/?google_editors_picks=true




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader's new lot

2016-05-06 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Maybe people are jumping to conclusions. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We’ll know more about this shortly from the top down.  Maharaja will be in 
Fairfield speaking to the meditating community on Monday.  

 

So the lot evidently is about achieving proper vastu and no movement money was 
used.  That does not mean that some Movement community courtier might not have 
furnish some money being helpful buying a little access, influence or favor of 
the Maharaja.  We are not in Kansas?  Someone else who seems to know the Naders 
says that they do not have that kind of money, that they are being helped.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Salyavin wrote:
 

Full details provided if you like but it's all in the archives here. 

 Ask him to provide the "full details." Again, if he doesn't, I will.
 

 I think Doug should also tell us the source of the email he quotes (without 
mentioning names).
 

 I also posted a link to some wikilinks financial statements from 2004-05 but 
they haven't shown up yet. Here is more: 
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Maharishi_developer_confidentialy_agreements,_legal_and_Sthapatya_Veda_documents,_2005
 
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Maharishi_developer_confidentialy_agreements,_legal_and_Sthapatya_Veda_documents,_2005
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

FW, e-mail:  "..officially, assured that no Movement funds, of any kind, from 
any source, were involved in this purchase. Rajaraam has had a family home 
there for years, and he’s relocating that home in order to be in proper vastu."

 

 Does that placate you? It doesn't me, full financial disclosure is the order 
of the day I'm afraid, I'm sick of watching my mates get ripped off for stupid 
prayers when it's highly unlikely they even do them. You might say that as they 
don't work it doesn't matter that they don't do them but it's hardly the point. 
I've spent decades watching the slick blackmailing of donations from the 
faithful just to see the promised buildings/courses whatever not happen. If 
people knew what was going on there would have to be some accountability.
 

 Just the other day I got a plea to double my monthly donations to the world 
peace programme (I don't actually make one but I know a lot who do) and all the 
while the King is larging it in Florida with his kids not even in a TM school! 
Doesn't he believe this stuff either?
 

 I smell major scam. And I smell it because I've been on the receiving end of 
it via the "vedaland" debacle, I know how good they are at this. Full details 
provided if you like but it's all in the archives here.
 

 Oh dear, well instead of lamenting your friends' gullibility and pulling your 
hair out, why not make it your mission to do some detective work and find out 
for sure where Dr Nader is getting his money from? I'm sure you could hire some 
investigative tax detective if you can't figure out how to do it yourself. 
Maybe you should write him a letter and ask him personally how he has managed 
to become a millionaire? For me, I hardly think having a few million dollars as 
a highly-trained professional is unusual but every man to his own belief. 
Perhaps if you ask nicely, Tony will even perform a yagya or two just to show 
his good faith. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 fw, e-mail:
 

 "As MUM struggles and as the movement struggles, the question will be - how 
can Maharaj continue to pour money in his personal home, while his "MUM family" 
struggles on in poverty? He is certainly likeable enough but surely, news like 
this will shake people up enough to ask the real questions?"
 

 -) Did you hear the news that Maharaj just invested in a half-acre lot in Palm 
Beach right down the road from his current estate 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=0ahUKEwj_j8uf9L3MAhWjkIMKHQteDecQFggdMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.palmbeachdailynews.com%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2Freal-estate%2Fpalm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom%2FnqDbj%2F=AFQjCNEhCAgVJdHxhLOlCy1uzNNTr6C6tw=u19zPT0QCJSPvWlrt_rIHA?
 

 

 awoelflebater@yahoo,com> wrote:

 

 Actually, that was my post below. I don't think that sounds like Rick, do you?
 

 But, for sure financial reports on all kinds of ways in which people within 
the Movement make their money and how donated money is spent should be 
mandatory and perhaps it is. Transparency is a good thing - and not just within 
the context of the invisibility sutra. 
 

 I don't have the time or the interest to start to look into financial reports 
the Movement may or may not publish but there seem to be some who are very 
interested in it and so 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader's new lot

2016-05-06 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
We’ll know more about this shortly from the top down.  Maharaja will be in 
Fairfield speaking to the meditating community on Monday.  

 

So the lot evidently is about achieving proper vastu and no movement money was 
used.  That does not mean that some Movement community courtier might not have 
furnish some money being helpful buying a little access, influence or favor of 
the Maharaja.  We are not in Kansas?  Someone else who seems to know the Naders 
says that they do not have that kind of money, that they are being helped.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Salyavin wrote:
 

Full details provided if you like but it's all in the archives here. 

 Ask him to provide the "full details." Again, if he doesn't, I will.
 

 I think Doug should also tell us the source of the email he quotes (without 
mentioning names).
 

 I also posted a link to some wikilinks financial statements from 2004-05 but 
they haven't shown up yet. Here is more: 
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Maharishi_developer_confidentialy_agreements,_legal_and_Sthapatya_Veda_documents,_2005
 
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Maharishi_developer_confidentialy_agreements,_legal_and_Sthapatya_Veda_documents,_2005
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

FW, e-mail:  "..officially, assured that no Movement funds, of any kind, from 
any source, were involved in this purchase. Rajaraam has had a family home 
there for years, and he’s relocating that home in order to be in proper vastu."

 

 Does that placate you? It doesn't me, full financial disclosure is the order 
of the day I'm afraid, I'm sick of watching my mates get ripped off for stupid 
prayers when it's highly unlikely they even do them. You might say that as they 
don't work it doesn't matter that they don't do them but it's hardly the point. 
I've spent decades watching the slick blackmailing of donations from the 
faithful just to see the promised buildings/courses whatever not happen. If 
people knew what was going on there would have to be some accountability.
 

 Just the other day I got a plea to double my monthly donations to the world 
peace programme (I don't actually make one but I know a lot who do) and all the 
while the King is larging it in Florida with his kids not even in a TM school! 
Doesn't he believe this stuff either?
 

 I smell major scam. And I smell it because I've been on the receiving end of 
it via the "vedaland" debacle, I know how good they are at this. Full details 
provided if you like but it's all in the archives here.
 

 Oh dear, well instead of lamenting your friends' gullibility and pulling your 
hair out, why not make it your mission to do some detective work and find out 
for sure where Dr Nader is getting his money from? I'm sure you could hire some 
investigative tax detective if you can't figure out how to do it yourself. 
Maybe you should write him a letter and ask him personally how he has managed 
to become a millionaire? For me, I hardly think having a few million dollars as 
a highly-trained professional is unusual but every man to his own belief. 
Perhaps if you ask nicely, Tony will even perform a yagya or two just to show 
his good faith. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 fw, e-mail:
 

 "As MUM struggles and as the movement struggles, the question will be - how 
can Maharaj continue to pour money in his personal home, while his "MUM family" 
struggles on in poverty? He is certainly likeable enough but surely, news like 
this will shake people up enough to ask the real questions?"
 

 -) Did you hear the news that Maharaj just invested in a half-acre lot in Palm 
Beach right down the road from his current estate 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=0ahUKEwj_j8uf9L3MAhWjkIMKHQteDecQFggdMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.palmbeachdailynews.com%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2Freal-estate%2Fpalm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom%2FnqDbj%2F=AFQjCNEhCAgVJdHxhLOlCy1uzNNTr6C6tw=u19zPT0QCJSPvWlrt_rIHA?
 

 

 awoelflebater@yahoo,com> wrote:

 

 Actually, that was my post below. I don't think that sounds like Rick, do you?
 

 But, for sure financial reports on all kinds of ways in which people within 
the Movement make their money and how donated money is spent should be 
mandatory and perhaps it is. Transparency is a good thing - and not just within 
the context of the invisibility sutra. 
 

 I don't have the time or the interest to start to look into financial reports 
the Movement may or may not publish but there seem to be some who are very 
interested in it and so I will leave it up to them to dig away. All I ever did 
was pay for my education at MIU and a mantra back in 1970 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader's new lot

2016-05-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Salyavin wrote:
 

Full details provided if you like but it's all in the archives here. 

 Ask him to provide the "full details." Again, if he doesn't, I will.
 

 I think Doug should also tell us the source of the email he quotes (without 
mentioning names).
 

 I also posted a link to some wikilinks financial statements from 2004-05 but 
they haven't shown up yet. Here is more: 
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Maharishi_developer_confidentialy_agreements,_legal_and_Sthapatya_Veda_documents,_2005
 
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Transcendental_Meditation_Maharishi_developer_confidentialy_agreements,_legal_and_Sthapatya_Veda_documents,_2005
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

FW, e-mail:  "..officially, assured that no Movement funds, of any kind, from 
any source, were involved in this purchase. Rajaraam has had a family home 
there for years, and he’s relocating that home in order to be in proper vastu."

 

 Does that placate you? It doesn't me, full financial disclosure is the order 
of the day I'm afraid, I'm sick of watching my mates get ripped off for stupid 
prayers when it's highly unlikely they even do them. You might say that as they 
don't work it doesn't matter that they don't do them but it's hardly the point. 
I've spent decades watching the slick blackmailing of donations from the 
faithful just to see the promised buildings/courses whatever not happen. If 
people knew what was going on there would have to be some accountability.
 

 Just the other day I got a plea to double my monthly donations to the world 
peace programme (I don't actually make one but I know a lot who do) and all the 
while the King is larging it in Florida with his kids not even in a TM school! 
Doesn't he believe this stuff either?
 

 I smell major scam. And I smell it because I've been on the receiving end of 
it via the "vedaland" debacle, I know how good they are at this. Full details 
provided if you like but it's all in the archives here.
 

 Oh dear, well instead of lamenting your friends' gullibility and pulling your 
hair out, why not make it your mission to do some detective work and find out 
for sure where Dr Nader is getting his money from? I'm sure you could hire some 
investigative tax detective if you can't figure out how to do it yourself. 
Maybe you should write him a letter and ask him personally how he has managed 
to become a millionaire? For me, I hardly think having a few million dollars as 
a highly-trained professional is unusual but every man to his own belief. 
Perhaps if you ask nicely, Tony will even perform a yagya or two just to show 
his good faith. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 fw, e-mail:
 

 "As MUM struggles and as the movement struggles, the question will be - how 
can Maharaj continue to pour money in his personal home, while his "MUM family" 
struggles on in poverty? He is certainly likeable enough but surely, news like 
this will shake people up enough to ask the real questions?"
 

 -) Did you hear the news that Maharaj just invested in a half-acre lot in Palm 
Beach right down the road from his current estate 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=0ahUKEwj_j8uf9L3MAhWjkIMKHQteDecQFggdMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.palmbeachdailynews.com%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2Freal-estate%2Fpalm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom%2FnqDbj%2F=AFQjCNEhCAgVJdHxhLOlCy1uzNNTr6C6tw=u19zPT0QCJSPvWlrt_rIHA?
 

 

 awoelflebater@yahoo,com> wrote:

 

 Actually, that was my post below. I don't think that sounds like Rick, do you?
 

 But, for sure financial reports on all kinds of ways in which people within 
the Movement make their money and how donated money is spent should be 
mandatory and perhaps it is. Transparency is a good thing - and not just within 
the context of the invisibility sutra. 
 

 I don't have the time or the interest to start to look into financial reports 
the Movement may or may not publish but there seem to be some who are very 
interested in it and so I will leave it up to them to dig away. All I ever did 
was pay for my education at MIU and a mantra back in 1970 (all of my allowance 
at the time which was one pound sterling at the time which, I recall, was the 
equivalent of $1.40 US). Other than that I have neither donated time nor money 
to any other aspect of Maharishi's/the Movement's real estate plans, palaces, 
honey or yagyas. Consequently, I am not compelled to worry about whether Tony 
Nader's lavish lifestyle has been financed by those who thought they were 
paying for a healing effect brought on by those yodeling a yagya or two or 
whether he has inherited, earned or won the money via lottery. But, by all 
means, dig up those financials - if they don't 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Now What Mike?

2016-05-06 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'd never vote *for* Trump but it wouldn't take much persuasion to vote 
*against* Hillary. 

 If Hillary is elected, she'll have at least one but probably two or even three 
Supreme Court appointments. That is scary!
 

 Face it, the world is scary but one with Drumpf is downright terrifying. Not 
to mention I'd throw up every time I had to look at his face or listen to his 
raging narcissism. 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 11:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Now What Mike?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ya know they say life's a bitch and then you die.
 

  If our only choice is Hillary or Trump, how can you say America ISN"T under 
judgment?
 

 That implies there is a judger, someone greater than ourselves who makes the 
rules and enforces them. I personally believe we create our own circumstances 
based on choices and our ability to actually think and choose. Trump will not 
be an accident (and Hillary I can live with). Trump is someone created by the 
people. He couldn't have gotten this far in the election process alone, believe 
me. It takes an asshole like him and enough others to put him where he is now - 
poised to possibly take the White House but being the optimist I am I still say 
Hillary will be Prez. Are you actually going to vote for Trump now that Cruz 
has come to his senses, Mike? Please say "no". I suggest you write in "Daffy 
Duck" instead.
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 8:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Now What Mike?

 
   
 
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/the-day-the-republican-party-died/481176/?google_editors_picks=true
 
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/the-day-the-republican-party-died/481176/?google_editors_picks=true


 














 


 












Re: [FairfieldLife] Now What Mike?

2016-05-06 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'd never vote *for* Trump but it wouldn't take much persuasion to vote 
*against* Hillary. 
If Hillary is elected, she'll have at least one but probably two or even three 
Supreme Court appointments. That is scary!

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 11:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Now What Mike?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

ya know they say life's a bitch and then you die.
 If our only choice is Hillary or Trump, how can you say America ISN"T under 
judgment?
That implies there is a judger, someone greater than ourselves who makes the 
rules and enforces them. I personally believe we create our own circumstances 
based on choices and our ability to actually think and choose. Trump will not 
be an accident (and Hillary I can live with). Trump is someone created by the 
people. He couldn't have gotten this far in the election process alone, believe 
me. It takes an asshole like him and enough others to put him where he is now - 
poised to possibly take the White House but being the optimist I am I still say 
Hillary will be Prez. Are you actually going to vote for Trump now that Cruz 
has come to his senses, Mike? Please say "no". I suggest you write in "Daffy 
Duck" instead.

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 8:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Now What Mike?
 
 
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/the-day-the-republican-party-died/481176/?google_editors_picks=true


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader's new lot

2016-05-06 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So the lot evidently is about achieving proper vastu and no movement money was 
used.  That does not mean that some Movement community courtier might not have 
furnish some money being helpful buying a little access, influence or favor of 
the Maharaja.  We are not in Kansas?  Someone else who seems to know the Naders 
says that they do not have that kind of money, that they are being helped.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Salyavin wrote:
 

Full details provided if you like but it's all in the archives here. 

 Ask him to provide the "full details." Again, if he doesn't, I will.
 

 I think Doug should also tell us the source of the email he quotes (without 
mentioning names).
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

FW, e-mail:  "..officially, assured that no Movement funds, of any kind, from 
any source, were involved in this purchase. Rajaraam has had a family home 
there for years, and he’s relocating that home in order to be in proper vastu."

 

 Does that placate you? It doesn't me, full financial disclosure is the order 
of the day I'm afraid, I'm sick of watching my mates get ripped off for stupid 
prayers when it's highly unlikely they even do them. You might say that as they 
don't work it doesn't matter that they don't do them but it's hardly the point. 
I've spent decades watching the slick blackmailing of donations from the 
faithful just to see the promised buildings/courses whatever not happen. If 
people knew what was going on there would have to be some accountability.
 

 Just the other day I got a plea to double my monthly donations to the world 
peace programme (I don't actually make one but I know a lot who do) and all the 
while the King is larging it in Florida with his kids not even in a TM school! 
Doesn't he believe this stuff either?
 

 I smell major scam. And I smell it because I've been on the receiving end of 
it via the "vedaland" debacle, I know how good they are at this. Full details 
provided if you like but it's all in the archives here.
 

 Oh dear, well instead of lamenting your friends' gullibility and pulling your 
hair out, why not make it your mission to do some detective work and find out 
for sure where Dr Nader is getting his money from? I'm sure you could hire some 
investigative tax detective if you can't figure out how to do it yourself. 
Maybe you should write him a letter and ask him personally how he has managed 
to become a millionaire? For me, I hardly think having a few million dollars as 
a highly-trained professional is unusual but every man to his own belief. 
Perhaps if you ask nicely, Tony will even perform a yagya or two just to show 
his good faith. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 fw, e-mail:
 

 "As MUM struggles and as the movement struggles, the question will be - how 
can Maharaj continue to pour money in his personal home, while his "MUM family" 
struggles on in poverty? He is certainly likeable enough but surely, news like 
this will shake people up enough to ask the real questions?"
 

 -) Did you hear the news that Maharaj just invested in a half-acre lot in Palm 
Beach right down the road from his current estate 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=1=0ahUKEwj_j8uf9L3MAhWjkIMKHQteDecQFggdMAA=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.palmbeachdailynews.com%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2Freal-estate%2Fpalm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom%2FnqDbj%2F=AFQjCNEhCAgVJdHxhLOlCy1uzNNTr6C6tw=u19zPT0QCJSPvWlrt_rIHA?
 

 

 awoelflebater@yahoo,com> wrote:

 

 Actually, that was my post below. I don't think that sounds like Rick, do you?
 

 But, for sure financial reports on all kinds of ways in which people within 
the Movement make their money and how donated money is spent should be 
mandatory and perhaps it is. Transparency is a good thing - and not just within 
the context of the invisibility sutra. 
 

 I don't have the time or the interest to start to look into financial reports 
the Movement may or may not publish but there seem to be some who are very 
interested in it and so I will leave it up to them to dig away. All I ever did 
was pay for my education at MIU and a mantra back in 1970 (all of my allowance 
at the time which was one pound sterling at the time which, I recall, was the 
equivalent of $1.40 US). Other than that I have neither donated time nor money 
to any other aspect of Maharishi's/the Movement's real estate plans, palaces, 
honey or yagyas. Consequently, I am not compelled to worry about whether Tony 
Nader's lavish lifestyle has been financed by those who thought they were 
paying for a healing effect brought on by those yodeling a yagya or two or 
whether he has inherited, earned or won the money via lottery. But, by all 
means, dig up those financials - if they don't 

[FairfieldLife] Deeper than deep....

2016-05-06 Thread salyavin808
From the silent depths of the ocean:
 

 Mariana trench live feed: engrossing viewing from deepest place on Earth 
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/06/mariana-trench-live-feed-engrossing-viewing-from-deepest-place-on-earth

 
 
 
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 Rare footage from 11km underwater streams on Youtube from National Oceanic and 
Atmospheric Administration vessel
 
 
 
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