[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex Haley and Roots

[ultrarishi]

My wife, my mother, and I did our 23andme tests several years ago.  It was 
interesting that I am pretty much 99% English / Irish Northern European mixture 
(plain Vanilla).  However, I did have .1% sub Saharan African, which is 
interesting and very cool.  My mother tested same as I except her percentage of 
sub Saharan African was .2%.  This cracked me up since I would have sworn it 
would have come from my father's side of family.  He was from the south and my 
mom's side is out of Minnesota.  However, with percentages so tiny, these 
ancestors were probably from the time of Revolutionary America.

Mike, congrats on your distinguished and famous ancestry.  I still remember 
watching the original Roots in first run and how the world came to a stand 
still to watch it that week.  Good times, then.  Today, the reboot sort of gets 
lost in the 500 channels of overwhelming content, not the 4 networks I grew up 
with.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex Haley and Roots

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Re "Kin to Gen. Robert E Lee":  

 Respect.
 

 Re your comment on the RoP thread: "Destroy all of the old cultures, 
religions, national borders, and national identities to remake the world.":
 

 I see that some philistine in Charlottesville has started a petition to remove 
the Robert E. Lee statue from Lee Park. That's the kind of Taliban-like attempt 
to eradicate our history that rather makes your point. 
 

 We've got similar vandals here in the UK and I have zero faith in our 
political class being prepared to stand up to them.

 

 


 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You can have a DNA test done. I think Ancestry.com provides the service, about 
a hundred dollars. I had it done. It came back 57% Western European,22% Irish, 
17% Great Britain,3% Italy/Greece,1% Iberian, <1% Scandinavian.
 
 I always thought the Great Britain part to be more dominate. I only know of 
one German ancestor a couple of generations back.However,I began to realize 
that the Saxons and Normans were Western Europeans that invaded Britain and of 
course the Italian could have been of Roman origins settling in England. Of 
course the Vikings were there as well.

 The furthest back I have gotten in tracing the actual family tree has been mid 
1500's to William Dixon in or around London. The first generation to migrate to 
the colonies was Ambrose Dixon, a Quaker, around 1640 to James Virginia.





 No royalty here that I;m aware of but the rumor on my mother's side is that 
our Lea ancestors are kin to Gen. Robert E Lee back in England. R.E. Lee family 
tree claims to go back to Robert the Bruce some how.


 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:20 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex Haley and Roots

 
   When my father tried to trace back the roots of his family's line the 
farthest he could get back was the time of the French Revolution. I like to 
think we are descended from émigré Frog aristocracy.
 

 Our family's motto? "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" ("Let them eat cake" ).
 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I mentioned in an earlier post that while watching the new version of the mini 
series, Roots, that I noticed a person that I thought was an ancestor, Tom Lea, 
father of Chicken George.
 I did some genealogical research and found that I am a cousin of Chicken 
George. Lawd H'mercy!
 Turns out that he is a fifth cousin, twice removed, if I have it right.
 My fourth great grand father was the Rev. Luke Lea, originally from 
Spotsylvania Va., moved to Caswell county NC.His brother was Lt Major Lea, also 
of Caswell county NC.
 Lt Major Lea fathered Major Lea, who fathered Tom Lea. Tom Lea was Chicken 
George's father. Chicken George is Alex Haley's great or great great 
grandfather.






 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

BTW, did you know that Hitler's Mein Kompf is basically the same as jihad?  
Mein Kompf means *my struggle* pretty much the same for Jihad.


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 10:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The methods they use to kill those that refuse to follow them are 
horrendous.They make the NAZIS seem like Boy scouts.

Hardly.http://listverse.com/2015/05/25/10-horrible-atrocities-committed-by-the-ss/

  From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS
 
 MD,
The current news say that ISIS jihadists are killing civilians in Fallujah.  
Also, if the Iraqi forces ever catch Al Baghdadi, the high priest of ISIS, 
alive,  they should charge him with crimes against humanity and hang him high 
just like Saddam Hussein.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Can I get a great big *Aloha Snickbar* for that?I think they also uncovered a 
mass grave of about 400 . 

  From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

 It's a great victory for the Iraqi people.  But I'm afraid  the ISIS 
terrorists may be waiting to commit their last act of infamy when they're 
cornered to face imminent death and defeat.
Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic State
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 These ISIS jihadists are the current manifestations of the asuras or devils in 
Nature.  They are  lower than   human beings, but are considered above animals 
in the Vedic hierarchy of creatures on earth.
 

 Bullshit, I'll take an animal any day. Animals are, much of the time, "above" 
human beings let alone these ISIS monsters. So, what makes a human so special? 
The fact that they, supposedly, can come to "know" God? Animals are born 
knowing God.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The methods they use to kill those that refuse to follow them are 
horrendous.They make the NAZIS seem like Boy scouts.

 
 


 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS
 
 
   
 MD,
 

 The current news say that ISIS jihadists are killing civilians in Fallujah.  
Also, if the Iraqi forces ever catch Al Baghdadi, the high priest of ISIS, 
alive,  they should charge him with crimes against humanity and hang him high 
just like Saddam Hussein.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Can I get a great big *Aloha Snickbar* for that?
 I think they also uncovered a mass grave of about 400 . 
 
 


 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

 
   
 It's a great victory for the Iraqi people.  But I'm afraid  the ISIS 
terrorists may be waiting to commit their last act of infamy when they're 
cornered to face imminent death and defeat.
 

 Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic State 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic Sta... 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 Iraqi security forces and Shi'ite militia "liberate" Saqlawiya town from 
Islamic State militants, as the battle to recapture the nearby city of Falluj...


 
 View on www.yahoo.com 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 Preview by Yahoo 
 


 

 

 

 

 


 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm told that I wouldn't recognize Europe today, let alone 50 years from now. 
The birth rate of Europeans is far less than what is needed to maintain what 
they have. The Muslim birthrate in Europe is enormous. The Imams have told 
Muslims to migrate to Europe and *breed out* the Europeans. No war, just take 
over by shear numbers. One or two more generations and Islam will have 
conquered Europe, without a war. Something they have tried several times, 
violently, without success.

 I'm not a big fan of conspiracy theories or Alex Jones but I briefly listened 
to one of his guests discuss this on a YouTube video. This guy claimed it's all 
part of the *New World Order* system being created. Destroy all of the old 
cultures, religions, national borders,and national identities to remake the 
world. Islam is one of the instruments being used to do this.

 

 How do you sleep at night, what with the worry?
 
 


 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Ummm. dude, I've known about Islam and Jihad since 1973. Studied comparative 
religions and Asian studies in school. The first thing I learned about Islam 
was that it was spread by the sword. Forced conversions. Submit to Allah or 
die. That is what Islam means, submission to Allah. The Dravidians in India put 
their foot down and resisted, fought back and stopped the slaughter and 
destruction of the ancient Vedic temples and their culture in  Southern India. 
It was too late for the north. Even Maharishi used to say that much of the 
vedic knowledge and culture was lost because of the Muslim invasion of 
India.The Spanish had to drive them out of Spain and back to Morocco. The 
Romanians and Hungarians had a tough time also but got them back  to Turkey. 
They destroy the host culture where ever they go and try to take over 
politically. History is repeating itself right now in Europe.

But this time, the Europeans are not fighting back! Within 50 years or so, 
maybe less, Europe will be unrecognizable from what it is now. For some reason 
(relentless inculcation of "white guilt" by liberals?) Europeans seem to have 
no will to defend their civilization, their values, or their priceless cultural 
heritage. I find this both sad and incomprehensible. 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

 
   Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile strike 
in Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire your 
peaceful attitude in the face of such military might.
 

 So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in 
schools as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books 
written about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, 
wait, I remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began 
slaughtering their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they 
began hitting back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a 
shit about Islam as a current political force, including the Muslims. 
 

 I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had 
the occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them 
just as much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. 
Military 101.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The methods they use to kill those that refuse to follow them are 
horrendous.They make the NAZIS seem like Boy scouts.

 
 

 Hardly.
 http://listverse.com/2015/05/25/10-horrible-atrocities-committed-by-the-ss/ 
http://listverse.com/2015/05/25/10-horrible-atrocities-committed-by-the-ss/


 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS
 
 
   
 MD,
 

 The current news say that ISIS jihadists are killing civilians in Fallujah.  
Also, if the Iraqi forces ever catch Al Baghdadi, the high priest of ISIS, 
alive,  they should charge him with crimes against humanity and hang him high 
just like Saddam Hussein.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Can I get a great big *Aloha Snickbar* for that?
 I think they also uncovered a mass grave of about 400 . 
 
 


 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

 
   
 It's a great victory for the Iraqi people.  But I'm afraid  the ISIS 
terrorists may be waiting to commit their last act of infamy when they're 
cornered to face imminent death and defeat.
 

 Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic State 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic Sta... 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 Iraqi security forces and Shi'ite militia "liberate" Saqlawiya town from 
Islamic State militants, as the battle to recapture the nearby city of Falluj...


 
 View on www.yahoo.com 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 Preview by Yahoo 
 


 

 

 

 

 


 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bingo, different time! A long time ago.We've grown up. Plus and most 
importantly, their actions had absolutely nothing to do with the teachings of 
Christ. It was their own evil and ignorance. 

 With Islam, Jihad *is* the religion. Making war against the infidel and dying 
to promote Islam is the only *guaranteed* method of salvation. Violate any 
tenant of Islam all you want but die for Islam and salvation is guaranteed. 
Mohamed set the example that they emulate today.

 
 I think you and Ollie are thinking more in terms of *Karmic justice* than 
right and wrong and civilization. "you killed them a thousand years ago. It's 
only *fair* they kill us now"
 

 What?! I never indicated anything was "fair" or that I condone any killing. 
Show me where I said that. 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And the crusades were renounced hundreds and hundreds of years ago! When was 
the last crusade? Jihad is an ongoing problem. It has been going on for 
thirteen centuries. 

 

 Point being, people have been massacred in the name of Christianity and Jesus 
by Christians. Different time, same story.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 

 Have you ever heard of "The Crusades"? LOL
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
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 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

 








 


 













 














 


 

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[FairfieldLife] The case for free will

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

9 min video begins with a summary of Sam Harris' position (no free will), then 
attempts to methodically undermine the arguments against FW by bringing in some 
concepts from Any Rand.  A central idea in the rebuttal to Harris revolves upon 
agent causation originating in the mind.  Drawing upon the work of many quantum 
physicists and geniuses such as John H. Conway, evidence is presented showing 
that the universe is fundamentally indeterminate and that making choices cannot 
be reduced to determinism.  Furthermore (says the speaker), it's incumbent on 
determinists to provide evidence for it, not for the "Libertarians" to disprove 
determinism.  Numerous physicists weigh in on the subject, with an overall 
conclusion that QM undermines determinism and that agent causation arising in 
the mind can't be reducible to it.
 The video is followed by another called "How Free Will Works".
 

 The Case for Free Will https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwY36a19aQ
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Neuropathy

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Neuropathy, especially caused by diabetes, may be offset to varying degrees by 
taking Benfotiamine, the fat-soluble form of Vitamin B1
 

 Benfotiamine: European Supplement Protects Against Diabetic Complications - 
Life Extension 
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 Benfotiamine: European Supplement Protects Again... 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I'm told that I wouldn't recognize Europe today, let alone 50 years from now. 
The birth rate of Europeans is far less than what is needed to maintain what 
they have. The Muslim birthrate in Europe is enormous. The Imams have told 
Muslims to migrate to Europe and *breed out* the Europeans. No war, just take 
over by shear numbers. One or two more generations and Islam will have 
conquered Europe, without a war. Something they have tried several times, 
violently, without success.
I'm not a big fan of conspiracy theories or Alex Jones but I briefly listened 
to one of his guests discuss this on a YouTube video. This guy claimed it's all 
part of the *New World Order* system being created. Destroy all of the old 
cultures, religions, national borders,and national identities to remake the 
world. Islam is one of the instruments being used to do this.


  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
   
    ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ummm. dude, I've known about Islam and Jihad since 1973. Studied comparative 
religions and Asian studies in school. The first thing I learned about Islam 
was that it was spread by the sword. Forced conversions. Submit to Allah or 
die. That is what Islam means, submission to Allah. The Dravidians in India put 
their foot down and resisted, fought back and stopped the slaughter and 
destruction of the ancient Vedic temples and their culture in  Southern India. 
It was too late for the north. Even Maharishi used to say that much of the 
vedic knowledge and culture was lost because of the Muslim invasion of 
India.The Spanish had to drive them out of Spain and back to Morocco. The 
Romanians and Hungarians had a tough time also but got them back  to Turkey. 
They destroy the host culture where ever they go and try to take over 
politically. History is repeating itself right now in Europe.

But this time, the Europeans are not fighting back! Within 50 years or so, 
maybe less, Europe will be unrecognizable from what it is now. For some reason 
(relentless inculcation of "white guilt" by liberals?) Europeans seem to have 
no will to defend their civilization, their values, or their priceless cultural 
heritage. I find this both sad and incomprehensible. 


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile strike 
in Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire your 
peaceful attitude in the face of such military might.
So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in schools 
as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books written 
about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, wait, I 
remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began slaughtering 
their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they began hitting 
back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a shit about Islam 
as a current political force, including the Muslims. 
I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had the 
occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them just as 
much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. Military 
101.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhingedas their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 These ISIS jihadists are the current manifestations of the asuras or devils in 
Nature.  They are  lower than   human beings, but are considered above animals 
in the Vedic hierarchy of creatures on earth.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The methods they use to kill those that refuse to follow them are 
horrendous.They make the NAZIS seem like Boy scouts.

 
 


 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS
 
 
   
 MD,
 

 The current news say that ISIS jihadists are killing civilians in Fallujah.  
Also, if the Iraqi forces ever catch Al Baghdadi, the high priest of ISIS, 
alive,  they should charge him with crimes against humanity and hang him high 
just like Saddam Hussein.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Can I get a great big *Aloha Snickbar* for that?
 I think they also uncovered a mass grave of about 400 . 
 
 


 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

 
   
 It's a great victory for the Iraqi people.  But I'm afraid  the ISIS 
terrorists may be waiting to commit their last act of infamy when they're 
cornered to face imminent death and defeat.
 

 Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic State 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 
 
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 Iraqi security forces and Shi'ite militia "liberate" Saqlawiya town from 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The methods they use to kill those that refuse to follow them are 
horrendous.They make the NAZIS seem like Boy scouts.


  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS
   
    MD,
The current news say that ISIS jihadists are killing civilians in Fallujah.  
Also, if the Iraqi forces ever catch Al Baghdadi, the high priest of ISIS, 
alive,  they should charge him with crimes against humanity and hang him high 
just like Saddam Hussein.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Can I get a great big *Aloha Snickbar* for that?I think they also uncovered a 
mass grave of about 400 . 

  From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS
 
 It's a great victory for the Iraqi people.  But I'm afraid  the ISIS 
terrorists may be waiting to commit their last act of infamy when they're 
cornered to face imminent death and defeat.
Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic State
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Wow, what a difference to the Christian experience - We were so fortunate that 
the native peoples of this continent willingly turned this place over to the 
Spanish, French and English, without a single drop of blood shed. Those bastard 
Muslims, though...grrr. Also the spread of the (Holy) Roman Empire 
accomplished by peace alone, miraculous. 

 Actually I think much of the current animosity towards Muslims is because 
unlike most of the third world countries we invade, these guys made it hurt, 
standing American Exceptionalism on its head. And we can't have that. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ummm. dude, I've known about Islam and Jihad since 1973. Studied comparative 
religions and Asian studies in school. The first thing I learned about Islam 
was that it was spread by the sword. Forced conversions. Submit to Allah or 
die. That is what Islam means, submission to Allah. The Dravidians in India put 
their foot down and resisted, fought back and stopped the slaughter and 
destruction of the ancient Vedic temples and their culture in  Southern India. 
It was too late for the north. Even Maharishi used to say that much of the 
vedic knowledge and culture was lost because of the Muslim invasion of 
India.The Spanish had to drive them out of Spain and back to Morocco. The 
Romanians and Hungarians had a tough time also but got them back  to Turkey. 
They destroy the host culture where ever they go and try to take over 
politically. History is repeating itself right now in Europe.
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile strike 
in Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire your 
peaceful attitude in the face of such military might.
 

 So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in 
schools as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books 
written about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, 
wait, I remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began 
slaughtering their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they 
began hitting back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a 
shit about Islam as a current political force, including the Muslims. 
 

 I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had 
the occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them 
just as much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. 
Military 101.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

BINGO!

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
   
    I think it is you who have your fruit mixed up. That cruise missile you 
mention was fired by the US government, a secular organization. My comments 
were in response to your post that made an equivalence between Islamic and 
Christian fundamentalism. 

And it wasn't so long ago (1998 or 1999) that the US military was bombing the 
hell out of a Christian country (Serbia) in defense of Muslims (in Kosovo). 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile strike in 
Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire your 
peaceful attitude in the face of such military might.
So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in schools 
as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books written 
about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, wait, I 
remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began slaughtering 
their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they began hitting 
back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a shit about Islam 
as a current political force, including the Muslims. 
I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had the 
occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them just as 
much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. Military 
101.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhingedas their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice?
But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that not 
be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The Quran's Verses of Violence

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|  | The Quran's Verses of Violence A sampling of violence in the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Muslims in Indonesia aren't that tolerant of Christians and Hindus. Their 
government is. Christians are killed and churches burned as well in India. It's 
just not reported that often in their media, consequently it isn't reported 
that often in our own. Even Maharishi said "I hated the missionaries, all we 
needed was one more god" and that came from a man that mastered ahimsa.
 We have an enormous military budget for two main reasons. First, we are looked 
to, by most of the free industrialized nations, to police the world, to help 
maintain free trade around the world.We have the wealth and capacity.We don't 
impose our religion on anyone.  No other single nation on Earth has been able 
to match us militarily. Secondly, a very strong military is better for 
*keeping* the peace. No nation wants a military conflict with the US because of 
our strength. Why start a war with the US when you're only going to get your 
ass kicked. Jihad is a different story. No borders, no uniformed army or rules 
of engagement. But those rules still apply to the US.
Who are we repressing? We send hundreds of billions of dollars to Middle- 
Eastern nations for a commodity that they willingly sell, we send our 
manufacturing jobs to poorer nations and give *their* people jobs and incomes 
that they didn't have before, raising their standard of living. We forfeit our 
patents and intellectual property rights. WTF are we repressing?We are no 
longer a manufacturing nation, creating things people want to buy from us. We 
have become a service oriented nation. We have become servants to the world.

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
   
    OK, but please explain to me then the relative peacefulness of Indonesia, 
mostly Muslim, but tolerant of Hindus and Christians. The US by contrast, long 
considered a predominantly Christian nation has a war budget greater than all 
other countries combined. We kill remotely, and with pages of justifications, 
but we remain as blood thirsty and trigger happy as the most radical Islamic 
countries - we simply hide it better. 
Which do you think is more damaging in the long-term, a suicide bomber, or a 
foreign policy designed to repress a country's inhabitants, so they remain 
willing fodder for slave-like industrial production to serve those repressing 
them? Gee, that sounds like what the Nazis did, but no, it is actually standard 
practice for the US. Gotta keep those manufacturing costs down, and profits, 
up, at any cost.
"Christian values". Isn't that an oxymoron? It should be.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Well... sometimes we say things to give the appearance of altruism and open 
mindedness at the expense of our common sense and intelligence. As I've said, 
Islam or for that matter, any religion, in the hands of a thoughtful, 
intelligent and reasonable person is one thing.Islam in the hands of the masses 
with lower educations, influenced by their fundamentalists, is another. It is 
the only religion today focused on expansion via violence and intimidation. It 
is the only religion that openly advocates a death sentence if you leave the 
faith. More importantly, it's a political and judicial system, enforced from a 
religious perspective with religious zeal. It's dangerous for a society. Even 
the thoughtful, open minded, Muslim is intimidated by the fundamentalist who 
commands the ignorant masses. Muslims don't hesitate to kill their own  if they 
aren't fundamental enough. Power is in the hands of the simplest interpretation 
of the Quran and Haditha.  




   From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 10:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

 Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhingedas their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[feste37]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 Ummm. dude, I've known about Islam and Jihad since 1973. Studied comparative 
religions and Asian studies in school. The first thing I learned about Islam 
was that it was spread by the sword. Forced conversions. Submit to Allah or 
die. That is what Islam means, submission to Allah. The Dravidians in India put 
their foot down and resisted, fought back and stopped the slaughter and 
destruction of the ancient Vedic temples and their culture in  Southern India. 
It was too late for the north. Even Maharishi used to say that much of the 
vedic knowledge and culture was lost because of the Muslim invasion of 
India.The Spanish had to drive them out of Spain and back to Morocco. The 
Romanians and Hungarians had a tough time also but got them back  to Turkey. 
They destroy the host culture where ever they go and try to take over 
politically. History is repeating itself right now in Europe.

But this time, the Europeans are not fighting back! Within 50 years or so, 
maybe less, Europe will be unrecognizable from what it is now. For some reason 
(relentless inculcation of "white guilt" by liberals?) Europeans seem to have 
no will to defend their civilization, their values, or their priceless cultural 
heritage. I find this both sad and incomprehensible. 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile strike 
in Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire your 
peaceful attitude in the face of such military might.
 

 So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in 
schools as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books 
written about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, 
wait, I remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began 
slaughtering their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they 
began hitting back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a 
shit about Islam as a current political force, including the Muslims. 
 

 I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had 
the occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them 
just as much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. 
Military 101.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I continue to make an equivalence between the two groups, because I haven't 
seen anything in the Christian fundies that leads me to believe they would act 
any less violent, if under attack. In fact, absent any intentions against them, 
they continue to perpetrate acts of violence. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I think it is you who have your fruit mixed up. That cruise missile you 
mention was fired by the US government, a secular organization. My comments 
were in response to your post that made an equivalence between Islamic and 
Christian fundamentalism. 

And it wasn't so long ago (1998 or 1999) that the US military was bombing the 
hell out of a Christian country (Serbia) in defense of Muslims (in Kosovo). 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile strike 
in Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire your 
peaceful attitude in the face of such military might. 

 So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in 
schools as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books 
written about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, 
wait, I remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began 
slaughtering their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they 
began hitting back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a 
shit about Islam as a current political force, including the Muslims. 
 

 I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had 
the occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them 
just as much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. 
Military 101.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

MD,
 

 The current news say that ISIS jihadists are killing civilians in Fallujah.  
Also, if the Iraqi forces ever catch Al Baghdadi, the high priest of ISIS, 
alive,  they should charge him with crimes against humanity and hang him high 
just like Saddam Hussein.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Can I get a great big *Aloha Snickbar* for that?
 I think they also uncovered a mass grave of about 400 . 
 
 


 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS
 
 
   
 It's a great victory for the Iraqi people.  But I'm afraid  the ISIS 
terrorists may be waiting to commit their last act of infamy when they're 
cornered to face imminent death and defeat.
 

 Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic State 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic Sta... 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 Iraqi security forces and Shi'ite militia "liberate" Saqlawiya town from 
Islamic State militants, as the battle to recapture the nearby city of Falluj...


 
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 Preview by Yahoo 
 


 

 

 

 

 


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ummm. dude, I've known about Islam and Jihad since 1973. Studied comparative 
religions and Asian studies in school. The first thing I learned about Islam 
was that it was spread by the sword. Forced conversions. Submit to Allah or 
die. That is what Islam means, submission to Allah. The Dravidians in India put 
their foot down and resisted, fought back and stopped the slaughter and 
destruction of the ancient Vedic temples and their culture in  Southern India. 
It was too late for the north. Even Maharishi used to say that much of the 
vedic knowledge and culture was lost because of the Muslim invasion of 
India.The Spanish had to drive them out of Spain and back to Morocco. The 
Romanians and Hungarians had a tough time also but got them back  to Turkey. 
They destroy the host culture where ever they go and try to take over 
politically. History is repeating itself right now in Europe.


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
   
    Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile 
strike in Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire 
your peaceful attitude in the face of such military might.
So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in schools 
as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books written 
about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, wait, I 
remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began slaughtering 
their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they began hitting 
back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a shit about Islam 
as a current political force, including the Muslims. 
I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had the 
occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them just as 
much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. Military 
101.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhingedas their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice?
But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that not 
be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
A lot of Mo's sayings could be 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Bingo, different time! A long time ago.We've grown up. Plus and most 
importantly, their actions had absolutely nothing to do with the teachings of 
Christ. It was their own evil and ignorance. 
With Islam, Jihad *is* the religion. Making war against the infidel and dying 
to promote Islam is the only *guaranteed* method of salvation. Violate any 
tenant of Islam all you want but die for Islam and salvation is guaranteed. 
Mohamed set the example that they emulate today.
I think you and Ollie are thinking more in terms of *Karmic justice* than right 
and wrong and civilization. "you killed them a thousand years ago. It's only 
*fair* they kill us now" 
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 11:30 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

And the crusades were renounced hundreds and hundreds of years ago! When was 
the last crusade? Jihad is an ongoing problem. It has been going on for 
thirteen centuries. 

Point being, people have been massacred in the name of Christianity and Jesus 
by Christians. Different time, same story.

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
Have you ever heard of "The Crusades"? LOL


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

 It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice?
But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that not 
be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The Quran's Verses of Violence

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The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[feste37]

I think it is you who have your fruit mixed up. That cruise missile you mention 
was fired by the US government, a secular organization. My comments were in 
response to your post that made an equivalence between Islamic and Christian 
fundamentalism. 

And it wasn't so long ago (1998 or 1999) that the US military was bombing the 
hell out of a Christian country (Serbia) in defense of Muslims (in Kosovo). 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile strike 
in Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire your 
peaceful attitude in the face of such military might. 

 So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in 
schools as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books 
written about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, 
wait, I remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began 
slaughtering their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they 
began hitting back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a 
shit about Islam as a current political force, including the Muslims. 
 

 I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had 
the occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them 
just as much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. 
Military 101.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

OK, but please explain to me then the relative peacefulness of Indonesia, 
mostly Muslim, but tolerant of Hindus and Christians. The US by contrast, long 
considered a predominantly Christian nation has a war budget greater than all 
other countries combined. We kill remotely, and with pages of justifications, 
but we remain as blood thirsty and trigger happy as the most radical Islamic 
countries - we simply hide it better.  

 Which do you think is more damaging in the long-term, a suicide bomber, or a 
foreign policy designed to repress a country's inhabitants, so they remain 
willing fodder for slave-like industrial production to serve those repressing 
them? Gee, that sounds like what the Nazis did, but no, it is actually standard 
practice for the US. Gotta keep those manufacturing costs down, and profits, 
up, at any cost.
 

 "Christian values". Isn't that an oxymoron? It should be. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well... sometimes we say things to give the appearance of altruism and open 
mindedness at the expense of our common sense and intelligence.
  As I've said, Islam or for that matter, any religion, in the hands of a 
thoughtful, intelligent and reasonable person is one thing.
 Islam in the hands of the masses with lower educations, influenced by their 
fundamentalists, is another. It is the only religion today focused on expansion 
via violence and intimidation. It is the only religion that openly advocates a 
death sentence if you leave the faith. More importantly, it's a political and 
judicial system, enforced from a religious perspective with religious zeal.
  It's dangerous for a society. Even the thoughtful, open minded, Muslim is 
intimidated by the fundamentalist who commands the ignorant masses. Muslims 
don't hesitate to kill their own  if they aren't fundamental enough. Power is 
in the hands of the simplest interpretation of the Quran and Haditha.  

 
 





 


 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 10:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

 
   Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile strike in 
Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire your 
peaceful attitude in the face of such military might. 

 So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in 
schools as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books 
written about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, 
wait, I remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began 
slaughtering their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they 
began hitting back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a 
shit about Islam as a current political force, including the Muslims. 
 

 I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had 
the occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them 
just as much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. 
Military 101.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And the crusades were renounced hundreds and hundreds of years ago! When was 
the last crusade? Jihad is an ongoing problem. It has been going on for 
thirteen centuries. 

 

 Point being, people have been massacred in the name of Christianity and Jesus 
by Christians. Different time, same story.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 

 Have you ever heard of "The Crusades"? LOL
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

 








 


 













 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well... sometimes we say things to give the appearance of altruism and open 
mindedness at the expense of our common sense and intelligence. As I've said, 
Islam or for that matter, any religion, in the hands of a thoughtful, 
intelligent and reasonable person is one thing.Islam in the hands of the masses 
with lower educations, influenced by their fundamentalists, is another. It is 
the only religion today focused on expansion via violence and intimidation. It 
is the only religion that openly advocates a death sentence if you leave the 
faith. More importantly, it's a political and judicial system, enforced from a 
religious perspective with religious zeal. It's dangerous for a society. Even 
the thoughtful, open minded, Muslim is intimidated by the fundamentalist who 
commands the ignorant masses. Muslims don't hesitate to kill their own  if they 
aren't fundamental enough. Power is in the hands of the simplest interpretation 
of the Quran and Haditha.  
 

   

   From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 10:32 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
  
    Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary 
and unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is 
all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice?
But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that not 
be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The Quran's Verses of Violence

|  |
|  | The Quran's Verses of Violence A sampling of violence in the Quran. |  
|
| View on www.thereligionofpeace.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |


The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.



  #yiv6546280431 -- #yiv6546280431ygrp-mkp 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[feste37]

Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

 








 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ollie, which country are you saying*we invaded*? Did we invade it to convert 
them to Christianity or did we invade them for political reasons? Did they 
threaten us or our allies?WTF are you even talking about?


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 9:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
   
    Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. 
No bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. 
As I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist 
Christians and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you 
would see all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they 
feel. Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged 
as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice?
But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that not 
be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The Quran's Verses of Violence

|  |
|  | The Quran's Verses of Violence A sampling of violence in the Quran. |  
|
| View on www.thereligionofpeace.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |


The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

And the crusades were renounced hundreds and hundreds of years ago! When was 
the last crusade? Jihad is an ongoing problem. It has been going on for 
thirteen centuries. 


  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
Have you ever heard of "The Crusades"? LOL


  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice?
But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that not 
be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The Quran's Verses of Violence

|  |
|  | The Quran's Verses of Violence A sampling of violence in the Quran. |  
|
| View on www.thereligionofpeace.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |


The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

 








 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 

 Have you ever heard of "The Crusades"? LOL
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

 








 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 

 If you haven't heard of "The Crusades" let me give you a quick overview - LOL:
 http://www.history.com/topics/crusades http://www.history.com/topics/crusades
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

 








 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 True, and that is the problem. That's why I say it's a dangerous religion for 
dummies and there will always be more dummies than people with a lot of common 
sense. Especially in the middle east where education is severely limited, 
especially by the Muslim clerics that keep people stupid. 

 

 I posted about this yesterday. There are always those who are eager to jump on 
the bandwagon on hatred, violence and will grab at any old excuse to cause 
mayhem and destruction in the name of religion or for the sake of a few 
imaginary jobs (Trump). As long as there are those happy to use scripture or 
create propaganda for their own twisted uses, there will be plenty to 'believe' 
and subsequently create a world full of tyranny and intolerance. 
 
 


 From: "s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:40 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a 
toss a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would 
not that be a vile piece of advice?
 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

 





 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 

 Or, that the phrase "70 virgins" actually translates as "70 raisins". I hope 
they have some bran flakes to go with those when they get to heaven, oh, and 
some milk too. Maybe sourdough toast and some marmalade while they're at it - 
that would be heavenly, although I prefer cinnamon and honey, myself.
 

 
http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/2006/06/virgins-or-raisins/
 
http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/2006/06/virgins-or-raisins/

 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 


  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
   
    It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice?
But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that not 
be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The Quran's Verses of Violence

|  |
|  | The Quran's Verses of Violence A sampling of violence in the Quran. |  
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| View on www.thereligionofpeace.com|   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |


The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM. 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Mike, your turban is slipping...
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Can I get a great big *Aloha Snickbar* for that?
 I think they also uncovered a mass grave of about 400 . 
 
 


 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS
 
 
   
 It's a great victory for the Iraqi people.  But I'm afraid  the ISIS 
terrorists may be waiting to commit their last act of infamy when they're 
cornered to face imminent death and defeat.
 

 Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic State 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic Sta... 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 Iraqi security forces and Shi'ite militia "liberate" Saqlawiya town from 
Islamic State militants, as the battle to recapture the nearby city of Falluj...


 
 View on www.yahoo.com 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 Preview by Yahoo 
 


 

 

 

 

 


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex Haley and Roots

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You can have a DNA test done. I think Ancestry.com provides the service, about 
a hundred dollars. I had it done. It came back 57% Western European,22% Irish, 
17% Great Britain,3% Italy/Greece,1% Iberian, <1% Scandinavian.
I always thought the Great Britain part to be more dominate. I only know of one 
German ancestor a couple of generations back.However,I began to realize that 
the Saxons and Normans were Western Europeans that invaded Britain and of 
course the Italian could have been of Roman origins settling in England. Of 
course the Vikings were there as well.
The furthest back I have gotten in tracing the actual family tree has been mid 
1500's to William Dixon in or around London. The first generation to migrate to 
the colonies was Ambrose Dixon, a Quaker, around 1640 to James Virginia.
   No royalty here that I;m aware of but the rumor on my mother's side is that 
our Lea ancestors are kin to Gen. Robert E Lee back in England. R.E. Lee family 
tree claims to go back to Robert the Bruce some how.

   From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:20 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex Haley and Roots
  
    When my father tried to trace back the roots of his family's line the 
farthest he could get back was the time of the French Revolution. I like to 
think we are descended from émigré Frog aristocracy.
Our family's motto? "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" ("Let them eat cake" ).





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I mentioned in an earlier post that while watching the new version of the mini 
series, Roots, that I noticed a person that I thought was an ancestor, Tom Lea, 
father of Chicken George.I did some genealogical research and found that I am a 
cousin of Chicken George. Lawd H'mercy!Turns out that he is a fifth cousin, 
twice removed, if I have it right.My fourth great grand father was the Rev. 
Luke Lea, originally from Spotsylvania Va., moved to Caswell county NC.His 
brother was Lt Major Lea, also of Caswell county NC.Lt Major Lea fathered Major 
Lea, who fathered Tom Lea. Tom Lea was Chicken George's father. Chicken George 
is Alex Haley's great or great great grandfather.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

True, and that is the problem. That's why I say it's a dangerous religion for 
dummies and there will always be more dummies than people with a lot of common 
sense. Especially in the middle east where education is severely limited, 
especially by the Muslim clerics that keep people stupid. 


  From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:40 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
   
    Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a 
toss a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would 
not that be a vile piece of advice?
But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that not 
be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The Quran's Verses of Violence

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The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Can I get a great big *Aloha Snickbar* for that?I think they also uncovered a 
mass grave of about 400 .  

  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:27 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS
   
    It's a great victory for the Iraqi people.  But I'm afraid  the ISIS 
terrorists may be waiting to commit their last act of infamy when they're 
cornered to face imminent death and defeat.
Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic State 
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||||   Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic Sta...  
Iraqi security forces and Shi'ite militia "liberate" Saqlawiya town from 
Islamic State militants, as the battle to recapture the nearby city of 
Falluj...||
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