Re: [FairfieldLife] Acropolis Now!
How could you do TMSP on the beach? Inflatable life raft or some such?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 5:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Acropolis Now!
The Greeks vote for an end to the austerity politics that the EU and IMF
have imposed on them since they had to be rescued from bankruptcy. Be
interesting to see what happens next, some of them might have to delay
retirement past the age of 50, and other horrors.
They should never have been allowed to join the Euro anyway, all these poor
countries playing on a level field with Germany and France, it was bound to end
in tears. So they might as well get it over with and go back to the Drachma.
But with all money connected worldwide we'll all feel the effects of a break-up
in the Euro.
Interestingly the UK has similar levels of public debt, the difference with us
is our creditors still think we might be able to pay it back if we destroy more
public services and sell the remains to the private sector so the people we owe
money to can make even more out of us.
It's all gone horribly wrong somewhere, the banks wreck society and have to be
bailed out by the government who say they don't have that sort of money lying
around so the banks say don't worry, we'll lend it to you. £1.5 trillion later
and we still don't know what's going to be required to sort it out. But pity
the Greeks, their biggest export is strained yoghurt and there's only a few of
them who pay tax, the rest work for the government
I had the best summer ever living on beaches on Greek islands, I got all Jason
and the Argonauts cooking fish and potatoes over an open fire every night. Once
a week we'd go to a taverna and drink in the culture with dancing and ouzo then
watch the stars come out over the sea. All rather excellent. I'd do it again in
a heartbeat but I don't know if it's still possible now everything is
Euro-legal. Are people allowed to just sleep rough on beaches anywhere? Sleep
on the decks of ferries to save money? Loads of European kids used to do it for
a cheap summer holiday in paradise, nowadays most are too worried about how
dossing about will look on their CV's. Fucking politicians ruin everything..
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Acropolis Now!
That is almost enough to make me go back to TMSP!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Acropolis Now!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
How could you do TMSP on the beach? Inflatable life raft or some such?
LOL, no this was long before my life as a TMer. Would like to try meditating
there though - nice and quiet when you get to an isolated spot. The trouble
with sitting still on a beach is that insects find you, there are some mighty
big and fast spiders out there, not conducive to deep relaxation.
What we need is one of these:
Could go yogic flying down the beach, that'd raise some eyebrows!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To:
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 5:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Acropolis Now!
The Greeks vote for an end to the austerity politics that the EU and IMF
have imposed on them since they had to be rescued from bankruptcy. Be
interesting to see what happens next, some of them might have to delay
retirement past the age of 50, and other horrors.
They should never have been allowed to join the Euro anyway, all these poor
countries playing on a level field with Germany and France, it was bound to end
in tears. So they might as well get it over with and go back to the Drachma.
But with all money connected worldwide we'll all feel the effects of a break-up
in the Euro.
Interestingly the UK has similar levels of public debt, the difference with us
is our creditors still think we might be able to pay it back if we destroy more
public services and sell the remains to the private sector so the people we owe
money to can make even more out of us.
It's all gone horribly wrong somewhere, the banks wreck society and have to be
bailed out by the government who say they don't have that sort of money lying
around so the banks say don't worry, we'll lend it to you. £1.5 trillion later
and we still don't know what's going to be required to sort it out. But pity
the Greeks, their biggest export is strained yoghurt and there's only a few of
them who pay tax, the rest work for the government
I had the best summer ever living on beaches on Greek islands, I got all Jason
and the Argonauts cooking fish and potatoes over an open fire every night. Once
a week we'd go to a taverna and drink in the culture with dancing and ouzo then
watch the stars come out over the sea. All rather excellent. I'd do it again in
a heartbeat but I don't know if it's still possible now everything is
Euro-legal. Are people allowed to just sleep rough on beaches anywhere? Sleep
on the decks of ferries to save money? Loads of European kids used to do it for
a cheap summer holiday in paradise, nowadays most are too worried about how
dossing about will look on their CV's. Fucking politicians ruin everything..
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Acropolis Now!
I had forgotten about those - I had one for a long time.
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Acropolis Now!
It reminds me of the old porta-foams for flying. I forget who created those
in FF but they were great when I was busy trying to compress my spine twice a
day! They had straps for your legs and you could fly anywhere.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
That is almost enough to make me go back to TMSP!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Acropolis Now!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
How could you do TMSP on the beach? Inflatable life raft or some such?
LOL, no this was long before my life as a TMer. Would like to try meditating
there though - nice and quiet when you get to an isolated spot. The trouble
with sitting still on a beach is that insects find you, there are some mighty
big and fast spiders out there, not conducive to deep relaxation.
What we need is one of these:
Could go yogic flying down the beach, that'd raise some eyebrows!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To:
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 5:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Acropolis Now!
The Greeks vote for an end to the austerity politics that the EU and IMF
have imposed on them since they had to be rescued from bankruptcy. Be
interesting to see what happens next, some of them might have to delay
retirement past the age of 50, and other horrors.
They should never have been allowed to join the Euro anyway, all these poor
countries playing on a level field with Germany and France, it was bound to end
in tears. So they might as well get it over with and go back to the Drachma.
But with all money connected worldwide we'll all feel the effects of a break-up
in the Euro.
Interestingly the UK has similar levels of public debt, the difference with us
is our creditors still think we might be able to pay it back if we destroy more
public services and sell the remains to the private sector so the people we owe
money to can make even more out of us.
It's all gone horribly wrong somewhere, the banks wreck society and have to be
bailed out by the government who say they don't have that sort of money lying
around so the banks say don't worry, we'll lend it to you. £1.5 trillion later
and we still don't know what's going to be required to sort it out. But pity
the Greeks, their biggest export is strained yoghurt and there's only a few of
them who pay tax, the rest work for the government
I had the best summer ever living on beaches on Greek islands, I got all Jason
and the Argonauts cooking fish and potatoes over an open fire every night. Once
a week we'd go to a taverna and drink in the culture with dancing and ouzo then
watch the stars come out over the sea. All rather excellent. I'd do it again in
a heartbeat but I don't know if it's still possible now everything is
Euro-legal. Are people allowed to just sleep rough on beaches anywhere? Sleep
on the decks of ferries to save money? Loads of European kids used to do it for
a cheap summer holiday in paradise, nowadays most are too worried about how
dossing about will look on their CV's. Fucking politicians ruin everything..
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates
Buck is showing his true TM colors - hypocritical and full of crap, behavior
learned from his beloved Marshy and Company - they were full of it too.
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 10:08 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostates
You were in a publicly known place with other people, with a very popular
person; one cannot be private in such a situation, one is seen in such a
situation; you may even have been photographed in such a situation. That is
public knowledge even though you might want to hide such behaviour from a
certain organisation, but you were seen. In the light of your comments in the
past, you would be considered what you have called others, an apostate. The
other comments were factual, concerning your behaviour in the past, what you
publicly posted on Fairfield Life, so it is not a slur. Your name was not
mentioned in the post, and everybody knows it anyway, you never requested
anonymity when you were on FFL. End of Message.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Dear Xenophaneros Anartaxius you are well aware of theyahoo-groups guidelines
of invading privacy or slurring people on yahoo-groups. Bye. #yiv4644874834
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Re: [FairfieldLife] It Follows
I tried to watch it - man was it awful! Lame acting and RIDICULOUSLY bad
dialogue.
It might vie for worst sci fi film with that god awful Prometheus.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It Follows
I watched Jupiter Ascending last night. It's a tentpole movie. IOW,
something the Wachowski's did to get funding for projects they really want to
do. It's a very basic story, sorta a takeoff on Cinderella (if you get the
homage). Lots of temporary employment for CG artists.
On 07/03/2015 01:55 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
Jupiter Ascending got bad reviews, and I found it good enough to watch two
times already. All kinds of production values and new tech concepts.
It Follows is a rude slap in the face comparatively. Turns out it is simply a
see girls in underwear running flick.AND THAT'S IT. It's got about
twenty things that piss ya off: characters going into dark places alone, being
too dumb to find practical help, and endlessly starting the fucking movie over
and over again with the same exact scenario: waiting for IT, and then running.
Just trying to save ya getting emotionally ripped off.
Worse part of the film is that IT DOES DELIVER with a lot of good
qualitiesgets ya expecting a LOGICAL and REASONABLE film, cuz, you know,
good money and minds were behind this film.
But shit.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
I'll have to see for myself. With horror and science fiction people often
bring pre-concieved expectations. The film is distributed by Weinstein so
might even have extras and an alternate ending. Similarly now that Jupiter
Ascending is at RB I'll be checking it out for myself.
On 07/03/2015 09:53 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
Not worth the Redbox rental price. Reason: the ending
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Showsup at Redbox on the 14th.
On 07/03/2015 09:12 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Especiallyif you paid the prices I'm seeing to watch it online. Wait for
Netflix for these titles or at least Redbox. Or did you inherit an eyepatch?
On 07/02/2015 08:35 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
WHAT A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT MOVIE. I won't spoil it here, but you should
read ONLY THE BAD REVIEWS of this GOTCHA-TO-BUY-ME-YOU-SUCKER BAIT AND
FUCKING SWITCH ABUSE UPON THE PUBLIC.
I cannot believe those Rotten Tomatoes ratings The positive reviews are
all bullshit-for-sure;-written-probably-by-paid-for-shillswhomust have all
bought into this HEIST of the public mindset. All the RT reviewers should have
their checking accounts audited for a major influx of payola..holy shit
this film pissed me off.
Piss.
Shit.
Fuck fuck fucking fuck fuck..fuck.
( Heh..Just trying to help fill in the recently obvious film-review
vacuum.)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] It Follows
Ever seen Plan 9 from Outer Space? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It Follows ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I tried to watch it - man was it awful! Lame acting and RIDICULOUSLY bad dialogue. It might vie for worst sci fi film with that god awful Prometheus. Prometheus was abysmal. And worse than just being a bad film with a tired cliche in every frame it completely undermined the first Alien film which is still marvelous. What was Ridley Scott thinking! But maybe the new Terminator film will give it a run for it's money. There was a great film that surely didn't need a sequel, but it got one that made no sense at all and, once again, undermined the original. I don't know why people rate T2 at all. Better special effects probably. But the series went rapidly downhill, the last one with Christian Bale was dreadful, all those cheesy references to dialogue in the first film made me want to scream Make it stop! but I was in a cinema and was probably in a minority anyway. People must love those references or they wouldn't always do them right? Worst sci-fi movie I have ever seen must be Battleship. It isn't really sci-fi but people will think it is because it's got big robots in it. It's more accurately described as an advert for America's values and it's endless fight against the nameless terrors that threaten the safety of the American way of life. Been a lot of films like that recently. Aliens with no backstory, stopping the hapless residents from going about their business, I don't know why they don't just call the monsters Ayrabh's or Gheehadees or something as they aren't fooling anyone. One thing they get wrong though is that the aliens they come up against are always highly organised and technologically advanced, unlike America's real enemies. Go figure... From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It Follows I watched Jupiter Ascending lastnight. It's a tentpole movie. IOW, something the Wachowski'sdid to get funding for projects they really want to do. It's avery basic story, sorta a takeoff on Cinderella (if you get thehomage). Lots of temporary employment for CG artists. On 07/03/2015 01:55 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Jupiter Ascending got badreviews, and I found it good enough to watch two timesalready. All kinds of production values and new techconcepts. It Follows is a rude slap in the face comparatively. Turns out it is simply a see girls in underwearrunning flick.AND THAT'S IT. It's got about twentythings that piss ya off: characters going into darkplaces alone, being too dumb to find practical help, andendlessly starting the fucking movie over and over againwith the same exact scenario: waiting for IT, and thenrunning. Just trying to save ya getting emotionally ripped off. Worse part of the film is that IT DOES DELIVER with a lotof good qualitiesgets ya expecting a LOGICAL andREASONABLE film, cuz, you know, good money and minds werebehind this film. But shit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...wrote : I'llhave to see for myself. Withhorror and science fiction people often bringpre-concievedexpectations. The film is distributed by Weinstein somight evenhave extras and an alternate ending. Similarly nowthat JupiterAscending is at RB I'll be checking it out formyself. On 07/03/2015 09:53 AM,Duveyoung wrote: Notworth the Redbox rentalprice. Reason: the ending ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,noozguru@...wrote : Showsupat Redbox on the 14th. On 07/03/2015 09:12 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@...[FairfieldLife] wrote: Especiallyifyou paid theprices I'm seeing to watch it online. Waitfor Netflixfor these titles or at least Redbox. Or didyou inheritan eyepatch? On 07/02/2015 08:35 PM, Duveyoungwrote: WHAT AFUCKING PIECEOF SHITMOVIE. I won't spoil ithere, butyou shouldread ONLY THE BAD REVIEWS ofthisGOTCHA-TO-BUY-ME-YOU-SUCKERBAITAND FUCKINGSWITCH ABUSE UPON THE PUBLIC. I cannot believe thoseRottenTomatoesratings The positivereviewsare allbullshit-for-sure;-written-probably-by-paid-for-shillswhomusthave all bought into thisHEIST ofthe public mindset. Allthe RTreviewersshould have their checkingaccounts auditedfor a major influx ofpayola..holy shitthis film pissed me off. Piss. Shit. Fuck fuck fucking fuckfuck..fuck. ( Heh..Just trying to helpfill inthe recentlyobvious film-review vacuum.) ItFollows | | | || | ItFollowsCriticsConsensus:Smart, original, andaboveallterrifying, ItFollows isthe raremodern horror filmthatworks onmultiple levels --andleaves alingering stin... | | | View on www.rottentomatoes... | Preview by Yahoo | | |
[FairfieldLife] Strange Southern Behavior
People in the South feel that the strangest people are found in the South, and after seeing this, I must admit it seems to be true. Watch this crap, I have never seen the like. And this is no joke - this guy actually comes to the Statehouse in South Carolina DEFENDING the Rebel Flag. Truth is stranger than fiction. The True South Through My Eyes - HK Edgerton | | | | | | | | | | | The True South Through My Eyes - HK Edgerton | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] Brit Society
You Scorpions have an interesting society. I was just reading that you still have allotments in England. That is mighty interesting - I wonder how it works in reality - what if one person likes to grow their veggies organically, and the chap in the adjacent allotment likes to use various sorts of poisons? Also had to laugh when I read that some time ago some genius decided to use the metric measurement of lots instead of the traditional poles. Wonder who did that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE
she thinks nothing of asphyxiating me with smoke particles from incense
Laugh of the day - thanks Xeno.
Last time I was in NYC was many a year ago on my way to the Catskills,
specifically to Livingston Manor to get my first bloc of the siddhis under the
auspices of Reed Martin and TM Siddhi Administrators Big Bopper Bevan and John
Cowhig.
While at Port Authority waiting for my bus, I was accosted by a crazy old Irish
Catholic bag lady who gave me shit and told me I was going to hell for not
going to church. She assumed that my red hair and pale skin meant I was Irish.
I also witnessed a helluva fight between a big fat woman and one of the men in
charge of one of the bus lines. They didn't throw any punches but god almighty
they sure did cuss each other out. I had not traveled much outside of South
Carolina at that point in my life, and I had never heard anybody cussing each
other like that in public.
I also stepped between an old homeless guy and a young girl, teenager, he was
harassing. Port Authority cop stepped in too, right after I did.
Interesting time and little did I realize in my TM brain addled mode that I was
about to spend two weeks rubbing elbows with some people at LM who were a whole
lot crazier than anybody I saw in Port Authority. Some of those TM'ers had
actually sold their homes to get enough money to do the siddhis all the way
through. I admired 'em at the time.
From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE
Thanks for the invitation, but I have other obligations.
I deleted my post as I tend not to have any photos I have taken remain on the
Internet in a public space for very long. I live about a 60 mile drive out of
the City, and tend to avoid going into the City unless I have to. Normally I
drive to the Metro North Train Station in Brewster (and at my age the round
trip costs about $18.50), which actually costs less that the total cost of
driving, though it takes longer. Parking is expensive in New York unless you
hunt around. I have medical appointments on Monday. As I get older these
appointments seem to be increasing in frequency.
My vehicle is about 15 years old and I need to take it in for repairs, the
exhaust system needs patching (I hope) as there are some holes in it and my SO
is complaining about fumes, she is very sensitive to industrial fumes even
though she thinks nothing of asphyxiating me with smoke particles from incense.
The Cloisters was interesting. That day I was there, I went with a local photo
club. The museum gave me temporary permission to use a tripod so I was able to
get shots in darker areas until my camera died. I used my SO's camera for the
rest of the day. I think that camera died a few months later too.
Once again thanks for the invite, but it takes a lot of pressure to get me to
go into New York City. If I go in more than two or three times a year, it's
unusual.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 1:50 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE
Xeno, I replied to a message you had posted here last night, but my reply
never showed up, and now I don't see your original message.
But I enjoyed your piece about The Cloisters, and wanted to invite you for
lunch at the Four Seasons, Pool Room tomorrow (Monday), at noon.
That may depend if our attire will permit us entrance, but if not we will dine
somewhere else.
We'll be a party of four, two adults, and two grown kids.
I know little about the Four Seasons other than hearing about it occasionally,
but I read that it may have to relocate, and that it had a wonderful atmosphere.
And me, being a sucker for darshan, of any sort, I though,we'd make a splurge.
Hope you can make it, even with the last minute notice!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Having located the source of our knowledge from India it turns out to be
DIKSHIT
Dikshit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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(/ˈdɪkʃɪt/) (Hindi: दीक्षित) is a Hindu family name. The word is an adjective
form of the Sanskrit word diksha, meaning provider of knowledge. Dikshit in
Sanskrit derives itself as a person involved in scientific studies, and
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This simple discovery solves a lot of problems with regard to technical and
intellectual difficulties anyone has encountered in the TM movement.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brit Society
I am gonna become an anglophile if I ain't careful. Never heard of the Diggers
- sounds like it wasn't too safe to be one. Now, are you sure you and your
mates were emulating the Diggers and not the Ranters???
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 3:05 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brit Society
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
You Scorpions have an interesting society. I was just reading that you still
have allotments in England. That is mighty interesting - I wonder how it works
in reality - what if one person likes to grow their veggies organically, and
the chap in the adjacent allotment likes to use various sorts of poisons? Also
had to laugh when I read that some time ago some genius decided to use the
metric measurement of lots instead of the traditional poles. Wonder who did
that?
Yes we do still have allotments, and long may that continue. Anyone can apply
for one but there is a waiting list as they don't provide new land these days.
There are several plots in my town but me and some friends took over a bit of
unused land by a river and called it the asquatment. We formed a land
reclamation union based on an old peasant movement called The Diggers who took
over common land to grow food on.
We grew good stuff there for years but I moved away and other people got bored
and it all got overgrown, so there isn't much going on there now. Shame as
there's nothing like freshly grown food. We had a little shed and some picnic
chairs next to the river and I used to spend summer evenings there, but it's
gone now. Someone must have pinched it.
Don't know how they cope with the pesticides in allotments but in farming, you
can't call food organic if it's been grown near food that isn't organic, or on
land that has had pesticides used on it in the last 5 (?) years.
Diggers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Re: [FairfieldLife] It Follows
I did see it a long time ago - I like mind Battleship all that much, I thought it was better than Prometheus. But to get real now you gotta get to something like Minority Report which I liked very much. There is one called Battle Los Angles - kind of a similar plot deal to Battleship in that invading aliens are beat down by some US Marines, but I liked it mainly cause I like Aaron Eckhart who stars. and Battleship was a Hasbro movie, as was Transformers and GI Joe. Damn, wish I still had my GI Joes from the 1960's. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It Follows ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Ever seen Plan 9 from Outer Space? Grave robbers form outer space? Of course! it's a classic but not to be taken all that seriously. Did you see Ed Wood, the biopic by Tim Burton? If you haven't it's a must. His best film by far. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It Follows ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I tried to watch it - man was it awful! Lame acting and RIDICULOUSLY bad dialogue. It might vie for worst sci fi film with that god awful Prometheus. Prometheus was abysmal. And worse than just being a bad film with a tired cliche in every frame it completely undermined the first Alien film which is still marvelous. What was Ridley Scott thinking! But maybe the new Terminator film will give it a run for it's money. There was a great film that surely didn't need a sequel, but it got one that made no sense at all and, once again, undermined the original. I don't know why people rate T2 at all. Better special effects probably. But the series went rapidly downhill, the last one with Christian Bale was dreadful, all those cheesy references to dialogue in the first film made me want to scream Make it stop! but I was in a cinema and was probably in a minority anyway. People must love those references or they wouldn't always do them right? Worst sci-fi movie I have ever seen must be Battleship. It isn't really sci-fi but people will think it is because it's got big robots in it. It's more accurately described as an advert for America's values and it's endless fight against the nameless terrors that threaten the safety of the American way of life. Been a lot of films like that recently. Aliens with no backstory, stopping the hapless residents from going about their business, I don't know why they don't just call the monsters Ayrabh's or Gheehadees or something as they aren't fooling anyone. One thing they get wrong though is that the aliens they come up against are always highly organised and technologically advanced, unlike America's real enemies. Go figure... From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] It Follows I watched Jupiter Ascending lastnight. It's a tentpole movie. IOW, something the Wachowski'sdid to get funding for projects they really want to do. It's avery basic story, sorta a takeoff on Cinderella (if you get thehomage). Lots of temporary employment for CG artists. On 07/03/2015 01:55 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Jupiter Ascending got badreviews, and I found it good enough to watch two timesalready. All kinds of production values and new techconcepts. It Follows is a rude slap in the face comparatively. Turns out it is simply a see girls in underwearrunning flick.AND THAT'S IT. It's got about twentythings that piss ya off: characters going into darkplaces alone, being too dumb to find practical help, andendlessly starting the fucking movie over and over againwith the same exact scenario: waiting for IT, and thenrunning. Just trying to save ya getting emotionally ripped off. Worse part of the film is that IT DOES DELIVER with a lotof good qualitiesgets ya expecting a LOGICAL andREASONABLE film, cuz, you know, good money and minds werebehind this film. But shit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@...wrote : I'llhave to see for myself. Withhorror and science fiction people often bringpre-concievedexpectations. The film is distributed by Weinstein somight evenhave extras and an alternate ending. Similarly nowthat JupiterAscending is at RB I'll be checking it out formyself. On 07/03/2015 09:53 AM,Duveyoung wrote: Notworth the Redbox rentalprice. Reason: the ending ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,noozguru@...wrote : Showsupat Redbox on the 14th. On 07/03/2015 09:12 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@...[FairfieldLife] wrote: Especiallyifyou paid theprices I'm seeing to watch it online. Waitfor Netflixfor these titles or at least Redbox. Or didyou inheritan eyepatch? On
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE
I'd hate like hell to see what you think IS a rough neighborhood if a place where news crews get robbed and pistol whipped with witnesses watching is one of your good neighborhoods! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE Pier 14 is a very popular tourist spot and not a rough neighborhood at all. On 07/05/2015 03:04 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Was that the deal that went down on Pier 14? I read about that, seems like a mighty rough neighborhood when the news crews get mugged and pistol whipped during their broadcast while being filmed by yet other news crews. Sounds like the hooligans in your area need a good whiff of grape! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE Thanks for the follow up. I suspect much of this is security theater and unnecessary. They could do it more covertly given our technology. I think they want to condition us to live like we're in a Stalag. We had a 32 year old woman shot dead on the Embarcadero the other evening. They caught the guy who did it and he was a Mexican who had been deported 5 times already and had felony convictions. Apparently he just decided to shoot somebody. And I bet he used an unregistered gun so gun laws aren't going to help in these situations. Nor would security theater. We've also had a couple of shooting down the road from me on the freeway. They don't know who did those. Maybe it was the same guy. On 07/05/2015 09:32 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Xeno, thank you for your detailed response. I enjoyed every minute of it! Oh, a little follow up on Bhairitu's comment about high security in NYC. As I met my wife and daughter after they attended Mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral ,there was a heavy police presence,. They were with armed semi, or fully automatic assault rifles and other gear. So, that was interesting. Also, the two Memorial Pools at the 9-11 site, marking the location of the two towers, was very impressive, IMO. Everything to do with the memorial was controversial including the memorials, but I found them to be rather perfect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Thanks for the invitation, but I have other obligations. I deleted my post as I tend not to have any photos I have taken remain on the Internet in a public space for very long. I live about a 60 mile drive out of the City, and tend to avoid going into the City unless I have to. Normally I drive to the Metro North Train Station in Brewster (and at my age the round trip costs about $18.50), which actually costs less that the total cost of driving, though it takes longer. Parking is expensive in New York unless you hunt around. I have medical appointments on Monday. As I get older these appointments seem to be increasing in frequency. My vehicle is about 15 years old and I need to take it in for repairs, the exhaust system needs patching (I hope) as there are some holes in it and my SO is complaining about fumes, she is very sensitive to industrial fumes even though she thinks nothing of asphyxiating me with smoke particles from incense. The Cloisters was interesting. That day I was there, I went with a local photo club. The museum gave me temporary permission to use a tripod so I was able to get shots in darker areas until my camera died. I used my SO's camera for the rest of the day. I think that camera died a few months later too. Once again thanks for the invite, but it takes a lot of pressure to get me to go into New York City. If I go in more than two or three times a year, it's unusual. - From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 1:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE Xeno, I replied to a message you had posted here last night, but my reply never showed up, and now I don't see your original message. But I enjoyed your piece about The Cloisters, and wanted to invite you for lunch at the Four Seasons, Pool Room tomorrow (Monday), at noon. That may depend if our attire will permit us entrance, but if not we will dine somewhere else. We'll be a party of four, two adults, and two grown kids. I know little about the Four Seasons other than hearing about it occasionally, but I read that it may have to relocate, and that it had a wonderful atmosphere. And me, being a sucker for darshan, of any sort, I though,we'd make
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE
what about the news crews who were mugged, pistol whipped and robbed while they were filming there? From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE Pier 14 is near the Embarcadero area where the commuter ferries dock from Sausalito, Oakland and other areas. Its close to the Hyatt Regency, a famous hotel in SF. Since there are many types of people that pass by there, those people would include the criminal types. It's unfortunate that the woman was at the wrong time and the wrong place. It's an unfortunate example of bad karma on her part, which is unfathomable for us mere humans. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Pier 14 is a very popular tourist spotand not a rough neighborhood at all. On 07/05/2015 03:04 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...[FairfieldLife] wrote: Was that thedeal that went down on Pier 14? I read aboutthat, seems like a mighty rough neighborhood when thenews crews get mugged and pistol whipped during theirbroadcast while being filmed by yet other news crews. Sounds like thehooligans in your area need a good whiff of grape! From:Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Sunday, July 5, 2015 3:54 PM Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE Thanksfor the follow up. I suspect much ofthis is security theater andunnecessary. They could do it morecovertly given our technology. I thinkthey want to condition us to live likewe're in a Stalag. We had a 32 year old woman shot dead onthe Embarcadero the other evening. Theycaught the guy who did it and he was aMexican who had been deported 5 timesalready and had felony convictions. Apparently he just decided to shootsomebody. And I bet he used anunregistered gun so gun laws aren'tgoing to help in these situations. Norwould security theater. We've also had a couple of shooting downthe road from me on the freeway. Theydon't know who did those. Maybe it wasthe same guy. On 07/05/2015 09:32 AM, steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife] wrote: Xeno,thank you for your detailedresponse. I enjoyedevery minute of it! Oh, alittle follow up on Bhairitu'scomment about high security inNYC. As I metmy wife and daughter after theyattended Mass at St. Patrick'sCathedral ,there was aheavy police presence,.They were with armed semi, orfully automatic assault riflesand other gear. So, that wasinteresting. Also, thetwo Memorial Pools at the 9-11site, marking the location ofthe two towers, was veryimpressive, IMO. Everythingto do with the memorial wascontroversial including thememorials, but I found them tobe rather perfect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,anartaxius@...wrote : Thanksfor the invitation, but Ihave other obligations. Ideleted my post as I tendnot to have any photos Ihave taken remain on theInternet in a public spacefor very long. I liveabout a 60 mile drive outof the City, and tend toavoid going into the Cityunless I have to. NormallyI drive to the Metro NorthTrain Station in Brewster(and at my age the roundtrip costs about $18.50),which actually costs lessthat the total cost ofdriving, though it takeslonger. Parking isexpensive in New Yorkunless you hunt around. Ihave medical appointmentson Monday. As I get olderthese appointments seem tobe increasing infrequency. Myvehicle is about 15 yearsold and I need to take itin for repairs, theexhaust system needspatching (I hope) as thereare some holes in it andmy SO is complaining aboutfumes, she is verysensitive to industrialfumes even though shethinks nothing ofasphyxiating me with smokeparticles from incense. TheCloisters was interesting.That day I was there, Iwent with a local photoclub. The museum gave metemporary permission touse a tripod so I was ableto get shots in darkerareas until my cameradied. I used my SO'scamera for the rest of theday. I think that cameradied a few months latertoo. Onceagain thanks for theinvite, but it takes a lotof pressure to get me togo into New York City. IfI go in more than two orthree times a year, it'sunusual. - From:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Sunday, July 5, 20151:50 PM Subject:[FairfieldLife] Re:PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE Xeno,I replied to amessage youhad postedhere lastnight, but myreply nevershowed up, andnow I don'tsee youroriginalmessage. ButI enjoyed yourpiece aboutThe Cloisters,and wanted toinvite you forlunch at theFour Seasons,Pool Roomtomorrow(Monday), atnoon. Thatmay depend ifour attirewill permit usentrance, butif not we willdine somewhereelse. We'll be a party of four, two adults, and two grownkids. Iknow littleabout the FourSeasons otherthan hearingabout itoccasionally,but I readthat it mayhave torelocate, andthat it had awonderfulatmosphere
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE
Was that the deal that went down on Pier 14? I read about that, seems like a mighty rough neighborhood when the news crews get mugged and pistol whipped during their broadcast while being filmed by yet other news crews. Sounds like the hooligans in your area need a good whiff of grape! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE Thanks for the follow up. I suspect much of this is security theater and unnecessary. They could do it more covertly given our technology. I think they want to condition us to live like we're in a Stalag. We had a 32 year old woman shot dead on the Embarcadero the other evening. They caught the guy who did it and he was a Mexican who had been deported 5 times already and had felony convictions. Apparently he just decided to shoot somebody. And I bet he used an unregistered gun so gun laws aren't going to help in these situations. Nor would security theater. We've also had a couple of shooting down the road from me on the freeway. They don't know who did those. Maybe it was the same guy. On 07/05/2015 09:32 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Xeno, thank you for your detailed response. I enjoyed every minute of it! Oh, a little follow up on Bhairitu's comment about high security in NYC. As I met my wife and daughter after they attended Mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral ,there was a heavy police presence,. They were with armed semi, or fully automatic assault rifles and other gear. So, that was interesting. Also, the two Memorial Pools at the 9-11 site, marking the location of the two towers, was very impressive, IMO. Everything to do with the memorial was controversial including the memorials, but I found them to be rather perfect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Thanks for the invitation, but I have other obligations. I deleted my post as I tend not to have any photos I have taken remain on the Internet in a public space for very long. I live about a 60 mile drive out of the City, and tend to avoid going into the City unless I have to. Normally I drive to the Metro North Train Station in Brewster (and at my age the round trip costs about $18.50), which actually costs less that the total cost of driving, though it takes longer. Parking is expensive in New York unless you hunt around. I have medical appointments on Monday. As I get older these appointments seem to be increasing in frequency. My vehicle is about 15 years old and I need to take it in for repairs, the exhaust system needs patching (I hope) as there are some holes in it and my SO is complaining about fumes, she is very sensitive to industrial fumes even though she thinks nothing of asphyxiating me with smoke particles from incense. The Cloisters was interesting. That day I was there, I went with a local photo club. The museum gave me temporary permission to use a tripod so I was able to get shots in darker areas until my camera died. I used my SO's camera for the rest of the day. I think that camera died a few months later too. Once again thanks for the invite, but it takes a lot of pressure to get me to go into New York City. If I go in more than two or three times a year, it's unusual. - From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 1:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: PROVIDER OF KNOWLEDGE Xeno, I replied to a message you had posted here last night, but my reply never showed up, and now I don't see your original message. But I enjoyed your piece about The Cloisters, and wanted to invite you for lunch at the Four Seasons, Pool Room tomorrow (Monday), at noon. That may depend if our attire will permit us entrance, but if not we will dine somewhere else. We'll be a party of four, two adults, and two grown kids. I know little about the Four Seasons other than hearing about it occasionally, but I read that it may have to relocate, and that it had a wonderful atmosphere. And me, being a sucker for darshan, of any sort, I though,we'd make a splurge. Hope you can make it, even with the last minute notice! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Having located the source of our knowledge from India it turns out to be DIKSHIT Dikshit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | | | | Dikshit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Dikshit or Dikshitar (/ˈdɪkʃɪt/) (Hindi: दीक्षित) is a Hindu family name. The word is an adjective form of the Sanskrit word diksha, meaning provider of knowledge. Dikshit in Sanskrit derives itself as a person involved in scientific studies, and literally translates as one
Re: [FairfieldLife] British Columbia is burning
Who started them?
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] British Columbia is burning
We have a huge amount of forest fires right now with the sky everywhere
raining ash and the sun obliterated. #yiv9857751076 #yiv9857751076 --
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
As long as he had a dry cave to sleep in, why would he worry about his housing,
given the fact that he had that bag was it, the one that GD could reach into
and pull out any food or other items he wanted? Reckon what happened to that
bag, I doubt Marshy had it, otherwise he wouldn't have needed to defraud people
to get money.
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2015 10:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
Re Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in
a role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.:
Me:
Many Homeless people accept help to live inside when they reach the age where
it is too hard to continue to camp on public land which is what Guru Dev was
doing when they asked him. I never heard about any trickery. He accepted once,
then reneged and ran away for a while. Then they convinced him to come live
inside. Quite a posh homeless shelter.
It was probably hard for an old guy to make such a big change. But the 3 hots
and a cot lifestyle has its appeal for a man of a certain age. Even if it comes
with people waving camphor and incense in your face occasionally.
Reading his words about religion reminds me of other fundamentalist religious
people who like to think and talk about God all the time. I gotta figure it was
because of a lack of commitment to mastering the guitar.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Re Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.:
Didn't MMY say that Guru Dev was tricked into accepting the position? Or am I
imagining that I heard that story? If so, I must be going senile.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
that is a damn good question - I appreciate you posting this. I am gonna get
this book and see what it does have to say, esp. now with this in mind.
From: emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
Anyone read this stuff?
These types of biographies contain lots of valuable information. However, all
of them tend to be hagiographies written by Western psychophantic householders.
Consequently none of them reflect the ACTUAL view of sannyasa held by someone
like swami Brahmananda Saraswati. He was not just a sannyasin, but rather a
Danda-Sannyasin, which is a specific category of stict renunciation.
Danda-Sannyasins have no concern with the world at all. Rather, they take care
of simple bodily needs and use their remaining life moments to engage in
nididhyasana (contemplation). This means examination of the apparent difference
between the Awareness-Self and experience itself. Between Self and Other.
Between Brahman and appearances.
It also means contemplating the Upanishad declarations that Brahman is reality
itself (satyam), Awareness itself (jnanam), limitlessness itself (anantam) and
that this apparent world is that very Brahman itself.
Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.
PS: Don't bother replying with He loved us so much he wanted to save us from
ourselves christian theologizing B.S. Also leave off the He was a great
bodhisattva Buddhist B.S. These types of answers will only demonstrate lack of
understanding the question.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins
I know, Duveyoung.I am merely mocking Ann who continues to take me and a few
others to task for taking the TMO to task (thereby violating her own apparent
code of laissez faire) yet jumping up and down when others do shit she don't
like.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
Oh come on, Mickey, art transcends culture and beliefs. It's of a higher
order. I saw the Pieta a mere few days before a nutcase took a hammer to it.
I will always be grateful for that.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Why does it bother you? They aren't in BC tearing up your stuff? Why not just
live and let live?
From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :
Yep!, that's what we have to look forward to. Remember, the great Mosque in
Istanbul was a beautiful byzantine church. How about the Taliban blowing up the
ancient statues of the Buddha. Now ISIS does this. Erase the past to prepare
for the future Caliphate. Egypt has cause to worry.
Hideous. The destruction of cultural beauty, history and irreplaceable
artifacts is the real sign of barbarians and an utter lack of the finer
feelings that are supposed to characterize human beings. It is cruel-spirited
and it is also based in superstition that by destroying the images of others
you take away their power. It's also the kind of act more often seen on a
school playground where the bully takes a girl's doll and stomps on it right in
front of her as she cries and pleads for him to stop.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplaceable' ancient Palmyra ruins
| |
| | | | Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplace... Isil
militants have released images showing a civilian being forced to destroy
priceless artefacts from the Roman city of Palmyra as the head of Unesco warned
... | |
| View on tinyurl.com| Preview by Yahoo |
| |
“It cannot be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity,
or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.”
The Terminator (1984)
This makes me so depressed. I know they are killing and torturing people with a
passion rarely seen but this stuff is part of history, it's totally
irreplaceable, it portrays a different life we'll never see, their art and
culture, it's a reminder of where we came from, the birth of civilisation, a
time when the first cities were built and it's now gone forever.
Hard to believe these Islamic state arseholes actually exist in the 20th
century. When did evolution start going backwards? Sooner or later somebody is
going to actually have to do something about them because, as you say, they
aren't going to give up any time soon. The contagion is spreading.
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[FairfieldLife] India, Glad I don't live there
Anyone who thinks this place is worth a crap needs to read this entire article. Talk about people carrying around illusions!! The frenzied, fanatical politics of Tamil Nadu, India. | | | | | | | | | | | The frenzied, fanatical politics of Tamil Nadu, India.The frenzied, fanatical politics of Tamil Nadu, India. | | | | View on www.nytimes.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Simpler, Leaner BBC?
Some of the best shows I have ever enjoyed were BBC productions.
RumpoleSherlockDr. Who, in its many incarnationsThe MusketeersAnd so forth and
so on.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 10:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Simpler, Leaner BBC?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
Yep, different strokes for different folks. Personally, I'm appalled that the
horror genre even exists. But, it's nice that the BBC can cater to more than
just the upper crusty, high tea at Throckmockingtonshire Castle crowd. As I
learned 28 years ago from listening to the British Forces radio station in
Bielefeld Germany, Brits are fully capable of being as low-brow and
unsophisticated as any American.
Shh, we don't want everyone to know about the lower orders..
The BBC is the closet thing I've got to a religion. I've no idea why so many in
government dislike it, probably for Murdoch related reasons. The commercial
stations don't like it because it gets a guaranteed income but the quality
generated by the Beeb is awesome, 4 decent channels, God knows how many radio
stations and most of it is pretty damn good. You can pick and choose what you
like, I go for history and science documentaries followed by decent drama but
there's enough sing-a-long game shows to keep my mum happy. I'd rather see the
lowest common denominator commercial crap banned rather than lose TV without
adverts.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
There's also the loss of the Top Gear guys. It was completely understandable
that they shitcanned Jeremy Clarkson,but the magic that was Top Gear will now
all end up in some new show onanother network. It's estimated that Top Gear
used to earn the BBC 42 million pounds per year, and from the sound of things,
the new Top Gear with new hosts is not likely to be as successful.
It has always amazed me when people say they like Top Gear, I think it's
appalling! But it's the BBC's most lucrative show, each to their own I guess.
What I do like about it is the way it supports the sort of things I do like,
all those minority interest documentaries and new comedy shows. Be a shame to
lose any of that but they will scrap the whole organisation sooner or later,
it's all part of the plan to destroy everything we care about in society. Why
they want to do that is beyond me...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
BBC is cutting more than 1,000 jobs. Will new series be shot with a webcam?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bbc-cut-1000-jobs-leaner-806196
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins
Why does it bother you? They aren't in BC tearing up your stuff? Why not just
live and let live?
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :
Yep!, that's what we have to look forward to. Remember, the great Mosque in
Istanbul was a beautiful byzantine church. How about the Taliban blowing up the
ancient statues of the Buddha. Now ISIS does this. Erase the past to prepare
for the future Caliphate. Egypt has cause to worry.
Hideous. The destruction of cultural beauty, history and irreplaceable
artifacts is the real sign of barbarians and an utter lack of the finer
feelings that are supposed to characterize human beings. It is cruel-spirited
and it is also based in superstition that by destroying the images of others
you take away their power. It's also the kind of act more often seen on a
school playground where the bully takes a girl's doll and stomps on it right in
front of her as she cries and pleads for him to stop.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplaceable' ancient Palmyra ruins
| |
| | | | Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplace... Isil
militants have released images showing a civilian being forced to destroy
priceless artefacts from the Roman city of Palmyra as the head of Unesco warned
... | |
| View on tinyurl.com| Preview by Yahoo |
| |
“It cannot be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity,
or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.”
The Terminator (1984)
This makes me so depressed. I know they are killing and torturing people with a
passion rarely seen but this stuff is part of history, it's totally
irreplaceable, it portrays a different life we'll never see, their art and
culture, it's a reminder of where we came from, the birth of civilisation, a
time when the first cities were built and it's now gone forever.
Hard to believe these Islamic state arseholes actually exist in the 20th
century. When did evolution start going backwards? Sooner or later somebody is
going to actually have to do something about them because, as you say, they
aren't going to give up any time soon. The contagion is spreading.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins
Did you see anybody unstressing in Fuiggi?
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
H! You must have been on TTC in Fuiggi. I also saw it a couple of days
before that Aussie dude got to it.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
Oh come on, Mickey, art transcends culture and beliefs. It's of a higher
order. I saw the Pieta a mere few days before a nutcase took a hammer to it.
I will always be grateful for that.
Pietà - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
||
|||| Pietà - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Pietà
(Italian pronunciation: [pjeˈta]) is a subject in Christian art depicting the
Virgin Mary cradling the dead body of Jesus, most often found in sculpture. ...
||
| View on en.wikipedia.org |Preview by Yahoo|
||
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Why does it bother you? They aren't in BC tearing up your stuff? Why not just
live and let live?
From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :
Yep!, that's what we have to look forward to. Remember, the great Mosque in
Istanbul was a beautiful byzantine church. How about the Taliban blowing up the
ancient statues of the Buddha. Now ISIS does this. Erase the past to prepare
for the future Caliphate. Egypt has cause to worry.
Hideous. The destruction of cultural beauty, history and irreplaceable
artifacts is the real sign of barbarians and an utter lack of the finer
feelings that are supposed to characterize human beings. It is cruel-spirited
and it is also based in superstition that by destroying the images of others
you take away their power. It's also the kind of act more often seen on a
school playground where the bully takes a girl's doll and stomps on it right in
front of her as she cries and pleads for him to stop.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplaceable' ancient Palmyra ruins
| |
| | | | Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplace... Isil
militants have released images showing a civilian being forced to destroy
priceless artefacts from the Roman city of Palmyra as the head of Unesco warned
... | |
| View on tinyurl.com| Preview by Yahoo |
| |
“It cannot be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity,
or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.”
The Terminator (1984)
This makes me so depressed. I know they are killing and torturing people with a
passion rarely seen but this stuff is part of history, it's totally
irreplaceable, it portrays a different life we'll never see, their art and
culture, it's a reminder of where we came from, the birth of civilisation, a
time when the first cities were built and it's now gone forever.
Hard to believe these Islamic state arseholes actually exist in the 20th
century. When did evolution start going backwards? Sooner or later somebody is
going to actually have to do something about them because, as you say, they
aren't going to give up any time soon. The contagion is spreading.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins
what I see is that you think frauds and con artists should be left alone, those
of us who take exception to their antics should be taken to task, which you do.
It seems at least to be a dichotomy, and at worst hypocrisy. So I was using the
ISIS deal as a metaphor. Just sayin' as they say.
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I know, Duveyoung.I am merely mocking Ann who continues to take me and a few
others to task for taking the TMO to task (thereby violating her own apparent
code of laissez faire) yet jumping up and down when others do shit she don't
like.
You are either not understanding what I have been saying or you are refusing to
out of sheer stubbornness. Don't misrepresent me, MJ, it doesn't do you justice
and it just makes you look petty and narrow minded.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
Oh come on, Mickey, art transcends culture and beliefs. It's of a higher
order. I saw the Pieta a mere few days before a nutcase took a hammer to it.
I will always be grateful for that.
Pietà - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
| |
| | | | Pietà - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Pietà (Italian
pronunciation: [pjeˈta]) is a subject in Christian art depicting the Virgin
Mary cradling the dead body of Jesus, most often found in sculpture. ... | |
| View on en.wikipedia.org| Preview by Yahoo |
| |
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Why does it bother you? They aren't in BC tearing up your stuff? Why not just
live and let live?
From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :
Yep!, that's what we have to look forward to. Remember, the great Mosque in
Istanbul was a beautiful byzantine church. How about the Taliban blowing up the
ancient statues of the Buddha. Now ISIS does this. Erase the past to prepare
for the future Caliphate. Egypt has cause to worry.
Hideous. The destruction of cultural beauty, history and irreplaceable
artifacts is the real sign of barbarians and an utter lack of the finer
feelings that are supposed to characterize human beings. It is cruel-spirited
and it is also based in superstition that by destroying the images of others
you take away their power. It's also the kind of act more often seen on a
school playground where the bully takes a girl's doll and stomps on it right in
front of her as she cries and pleads for him to stop.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplaceable' ancient Palmyra ruins
| |
| | | | Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplace... Isil
militants have released images showing a civilian being forced to destroy
priceless artefacts from the Roman city of Palmyra as the head of Unesco warned
... | |
| View on tinyurl.com| Preview by Yahoo |
| |
“It cannot be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity,
or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.”
The Terminator (1984)
This makes me so depressed. I know they are killing and torturing people with a
passion rarely seen but this stuff is part of history, it's totally
irreplaceable, it portrays a different life we'll never see, their art and
culture, it's a reminder of where we came from, the birth of civilisation, a
time when the first cities were built and it's now gone forever.
Hard to believe these Islamic state arseholes actually exist in the 20th
century. When did evolution start going backwards? Sooner or later somebody is
going to actually have to do something about them because, as you say, they
aren't going to give up any time soon. The contagion is spreading.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins
Ah, I see you WERE in that hotel! From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins Hotel Karina? That was my hotel in Majorca. It caught on fire one night. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins Yeah, they had special instructions for the crazies. All kinds of muscle jerking. Not too much acting out of strong emotionsone guy set fire to my hotel because his girlfriend was fucking another guy...but that's just your typical thing, eh? Heh. I asked one of them, Hey, you at least have this definite proof that TM works if it's making you jerk like that, right? He said, Try it. During my deepest moments, it was PAINFUL to take the mantralike taking a little chunk off of my soul.a metaphor.it was uncomfortable.not in between mantras thoughonly when the mantra arose. Interesting, eh? I loved it of course. Heh. I know. I know. I needed checking. Where's a TBer with up to date checking notes? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Did you see anybody unstressing in Fuiggi? From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins H! You must have been on TTC in Fuiggi. I also saw it a couple of days before that Aussie dude got to it. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins Oh come on, Mickey, art transcends culture and beliefs. It's of a higher order. I saw the Pieta a mere few days before a nutcase took a hammer to it. I will always be grateful for that. Pietà - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | | | | | | Pietà - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Pietà (Italian pronunciation: [pjeˈta]) is a subject in Christian art depicting the Virgin Mary cradling the dead body of Jesus, most often found in sculpture. ... | | | View on en.wikipedia.org| Preview by Yahoo | | | ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Why does it bother you? They aren't in BC tearing up your stuff? Why not just live and let live? From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Yep!, that's what we have to look forward to. Remember, the great Mosque in Istanbul was a beautiful byzantine church. How about the Taliban blowing up the ancient statues of the Buddha. Now ISIS does this. Erase the past to prepare for the future Caliphate. Egypt has cause to worry. Hideous. The destruction of cultural beauty, history and irreplaceable artifacts is the real sign of barbarians and an utter lack of the finer feelings that are supposed to characterize human beings. It is cruel-spirited and it is also based in superstition that by destroying the images of others you take away their power. It's also the kind of act more often seen on a school playground where the bully takes a girl's doll and stomps on it right in front of her as she cries and pleads for him to stop. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplaceable' ancient Palmyra ruins | | | | | | Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplace... Isil militants have released images showing a civilian being forced to destroy priceless artefacts from the Roman city of Palmyra as the head of Unesco warned ... | | | View on tinyurl.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | “It cannot be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.” The Terminator (1984) This makes me so depressed. I know they are killing and torturing people with a passion rarely seen but this stuff is part of history, it's totally irreplaceable, it portrays a different life we'll never see, their art and culture, it's a reminder of where we
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient Palmyra ruins
So you weren't in the hotel the feller who was sexually jealous set fire to?
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
Nothing *freaky* if that's what you're looking for. Occasional head bobs
was about it. But then I was rounding a lot and had *my* eyes closed. Didn't
see much of anything.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
Did you see anybody unstressing in Fuiggi?
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
H! You must have been on TTC in Fuiggi. I also saw it a couple of days
before that Aussie dude got to it.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
Oh come on, Mickey, art transcends culture and beliefs. It's of a higher
order. I saw the Pieta a mere few days before a nutcase took a hammer to it.
I will always be grateful for that.
Pietà - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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|||| Pietà - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Pietà
(Italian pronunciation: [pjeˈta]) is a subject in Christian art depicting the
Virgin Mary cradling the dead body of Jesus, most often found in sculpture. ...
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Why does it bother you? They aren't in BC tearing up your stuff? Why not just
live and let live?
From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :
Yep!, that's what we have to look forward to. Remember, the great Mosque in
Istanbul was a beautiful byzantine church. How about the Taliban blowing up the
ancient statues of the Buddha. Now ISIS does this. Erase the past to prepare
for the future Caliphate. Egypt has cause to worry.
Hideous. The destruction of cultural beauty, history and irreplaceable
artifacts is the real sign of barbarians and an utter lack of the finer
feelings that are supposed to characterize human beings. It is cruel-spirited
and it is also based in superstition that by destroying the images of others
you take away their power. It's also the kind of act more often seen on a
school playground where the bully takes a girl's doll and stomps on it right in
front of her as she cries and pleads for him to stop.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic State takes sledgehammer to ancient
Palmyra ruins
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplaceable' ancient Palmyra ruins
| |
| | | | Islamic State takes sledgehammer to 'irreplace... Isil
militants have released images showing a civilian being forced to destroy
priceless artefacts from the Roman city of Palmyra as the head of Unesco warned
... | |
| View on tinyurl.com| Preview by Yahoo |
| |
“It cannot be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity,
or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.”
The Terminator (1984)
This makes me so depressed. I know they are killing and torturing people with a
passion rarely seen but this stuff is part of history, it's totally
irreplaceable, it portrays a different life we'll never see, their art and
culture, it's a reminder of where we came from, the birth of civilisation, a
time when the first cities were built and it's now gone forever.
Hard to believe these Islamic state arseholes actually exist in the 20th
century. When did evolution start going backwards? Sooner or later somebody is
going to actually have to do something about them because, as you say, they
aren't going to give up any time soon. The contagion is spreading.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaidya Krishna Raju visits Fairfield
seems odd that Raju would say something like that when this appears on his
website:
We are eternally grateful to His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi for the revival
of vedic wisdom he has given to the world. Because of His Holiness
Maharishiji, now we are able to see the ayurveda like this. Otherwise it could
have been much more destroyed and ruined.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaidya Krishna Raju visits Fairfield
Vata aggravating? I've mentioned the book written by a son of an Indian
guru that probably came out circa 1990 where he mentioned that TM lacked
centering which is what Amkara provides. He was also disgusted at what
became of his father waited upon by his disciples as if he were a child.
Yeah, a real guru observes the student and provides a mantra appropriate to
them. Or if it is a particular school they still provide a balancing mantra to
the guru mantra.
On 07/03/2015 02:04 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Yeah, he said:
Your mantras are too vata and are making so many people in Fairfield crazy.
Here is the correct mantra for your constitution and give the god thanks for
guiding you to me. So go now and meditate and that will be $300 dollars US and
don't let someone fool you with such over-generalized knowledge again.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
that is a damn good question - I appreciate you posting this. I am gonna get
this book and see what it does have to say, esp. now with this in mind.
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
Anyone read this stuff?
These types of biographies contain lots of valuable information. However, all
of them tend to be hagiographies written by Western psychophantic householders.
Consequently none of them reflect the ACTUAL view of sannyasa held by someone
like swami Brahmananda Saraswati. He was not just a sannyasin, but rather a
Danda-Sannyasin, which is a specific category of stict renunciation.
Danda-Sannyasins have no concern with the world at all. Rather, they take care
of simple bodily needs and use their remaining life moments to engage in
nididhyasana (contemplation). This means examination of the apparent difference
between the Awareness-Self and experience itself. Between Self and Other.
Between Brahman and appearances.
It also means contemplating the Upanishad declarations that Brahman is reality
itself (satyam), Awareness itself (jnanam), limitlessness itself (anantam) and
that this apparent world is that very Brahman itself.
Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage in a
role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never addressed by
the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.
PS: Don't bother replying with He loved us so much he wanted to save us from
ourselves christian theologizing B.S. Also leave off the He was a great
bodhisattva Buddhist B.S. These types of answers will only demonstrate lack of
understanding the question.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Simpler, Leander BBC?
I only watched one episode - the one where those idiots went to the US,
specifically to Alabama where they nearly got lynched.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 1:07 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Simpler, Leander BBC?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
There's also the loss of the Top Gear guys. It was completely understandable
that they shitcanned Jeremy Clarkson,but the magic that was Top Gear will now
all end up in some new show onanother network. It's estimated that Top Gear
used to earn the BBC 42 million pounds per year, and from the sound of things,
the new Top Gear with new hosts is not likely to be as successful.
It has always amazed me when people say they like Top Gear, I think it's
appalling! But it's the BBC's most lucrative show, each to their own I guess.
What I do like about it is the way it supports the sort of things I do like,
all those minority interest documentaries and new comedy shows. Be a shame to
lose any of that but they will scrap the whole organisation sooner or later,
it's all part of the plan to destroy everything we care about in society. Why
they want to do that is beyond me...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
BBC is cutting more than 1,000 jobs. Will new series be shot with a webcam?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bbc-cut-1000-jobs-leaner-806196
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
Not for all the tea in China
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
But wouldn't you like to date her, MJ?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Same gal, different interview - look at how they are presenting TM, as if it
cures everything in the world - this is the kind of pr that is both misleading
and ultimately harmful to people who don't know anything about meditation or TM
specifically.
INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation teacher
| |
| | | | | | | |
| INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation t...Our long interview
about life death, joy sorrow, and of course Transcendental Meditation --
please meet Valerie Gangas, an ordinary kid with an incredible exper... |
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| View on tmhome.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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[FairfieldLife] TM Cures All
Same gal, different interview - look at how they are presenting TM, as if it cures everything in the world - this is the kind of pr that is both misleading and ultimately harmful to people who don't know anything about meditation or TM specifically. INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation teacher | | | | | | | | | | | INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation t...Our long interview about life death, joy sorrow, and of course Transcendental Meditation -- please meet Valerie Gangas, an ordinary kid with an incredible exper... | | | | View on tmhome.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
[FairfieldLife] Roots of TM
New Paul Mason book on TM http://www.amazon.com/Roots-TM-Transcendental-Meditation-Maharishi/dp/0956222889/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1435842793sr=1-1keywords=roots+of+tm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
Do you think the cigarette is part of the appeal, or will the book tell you to
stop smoking, or p'raps it will suggest you switch to David Lynch's brand??
And how many women sit in an empty tub to read a book? Doesn't look too good
for the back to me.
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Not for all the tea in China
It gets better.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
But wouldn't you like to date her, MJ?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Same gal, different interview - look at how they are presenting TM, as if it
cures everything in the world - this is the kind of pr that is both misleading
and ultimately harmful to people who don't know anything about meditation or TM
specifically.
INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation teacher
| |
| | | | | | | |
| INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation t...Our long interview
about life death, joy sorrow, and of course Transcendental Meditation --
please meet Valerie Gangas, an ordinary kid with an incredible exper... |
| |
| View on tmhome.com | Preview by Yahoo |
| |
| |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
It is her TM fantasy proclivities I don't care for, plus the fact that she is
setting herself up, with Oprah's help as a life coach!?!?! With what training?
And how do you get a session with her?
You can't - she is doing all this pr to sell her upcoming book and whatever
other nostrums, bangles, baubles and gewgaws she will sell in the future.
You and Doug love to blabber about what a fine place Fairfield is, I would
think if you really love the place you would be hesitant to see another
huckster move into town - but if you still revere Marshy, I shouldn't be
surprised.
Again, screw TM and screw the bullshit let's take advantage of everybody we can
mentality it often breeds. She got all her problems solved with 20 minutes of
TM, and now she is living her dream life by selling a book? About what?
According to her pr it is about: telling other women how to live the life she
wants, set her own rules, become naturally more attractive and in the process,
uplift herself and the world
Who the fuck is she to be giving advice to other women? Based on what? Two
years of TM?
If her blabber about TM is her truth, then the only substantive advice she can
give women is do TM? They need to pre-order a book to hear that? And if she has
a bunch of other stuff to offer it means TM is not the panacea she claims it is.
She is just another TM huckster - there have been many and she is just the
latest in a long line, getting help from the TM people and Oprah. Without them,
she wouldn't have shit for a venue to hawk her nostrums.
I predict that she is one of those who claim to be fabulously happy on the
outside with all kinds of snakes crawling around in her head. She will crash
and burn like most of them do, just like that psychotic Jim Carrey is doing.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
If you don't care for beautiful women, what about her dog, then?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Not for all the tea in China
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
But wouldn't you like to date her, MJ?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Same gal, different interview - look at how they are presenting TM, as if it
cures everything in the world - this is the kind of pr that is both misleading
and ultimately harmful to people who don't know anything about meditation or TM
specifically.
INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation teacher
| |
| | | | | | | |
| INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation t...Our long interview
about life death, joy sorrow, and of course Transcendental Meditation --
please meet Valerie Gangas, an ordinary kid with an incredible exper... |
| |
| View on tmhome.com | Preview by Yahoo |
| |
| |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
. Her explanations sound very pat and very stereotypical of how enlightenment
is supposed to be and feel if you've been watching Disney movies
Oh what a fine post - I like that description very much!
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Same gal, different interview - look at how they are presenting TM, as if it
cures everything in the world - this is the kind of pr that is both misleading
and ultimately harmful to people who don't know anything about meditation or TM
specifically.
INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation teacher
| |
| | | | | | | |
| INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation t...Our long interview
about life death, joy sorrow, and of course Transcendental Meditation --
please meet Valerie Gangas, an ordinary kid with an incredible exper... |
| |
| View on tmhome.com | Preview by Yahoo |
| |
| |
I'm not sure if they are presenting TM that way but Valerie certainly looks
like she is. I don't blame TM for how she is brimming over with joy at her
one-meditation-and-I'm-enlightened shtick here. This is her deal. And I'm not
really buying it. Her explanations sound very pat and very stereotypical of how
enlightenment is supposed to be and feel if you've been watching Disney movies
but I'm pretty sure it isn't. Still, she may be genuine and she might be in
Brahman for all I know but I won't be making an appointment with her to solve
my personal life's journeys problems anytime soon. #yiv3397125107
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
Dunno - ain't read it yet - just found out about its existence yesterday
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
Is Girish mentioned in this book? Just askin' about OUR ROOTS.
Any mention of these issues that I noted the other day? Here's the snip:
This movement is TAINTED in the headlines with regularity. ACTUAL Rapist
psychiatrist, ACTUAL illegal convicted hustler Beckley, ACTUAL commodity
scandal, ACTUAL campus murder scandal, ACTUAL serial rapist in the dome
house, ACTUAL indentured servitude of foreigners, ACTUAL Maharishi scandals,
ACTUAL Girish scandals, ACTUAL MUM leaders' sex scandals, ACTUAL vile it's
real science posturing, ACTUAL false promising of results, ACTUAL snake oil
huxterisms for illegally smuggled drugs containing mercury, ACTUAL campus
suicides, ACTUAL Kaplan scandal, and on and on and on...
Any mention of the above?
Any?
A whiff of a hint of a nuance of a bit of a titch of a mention?
Nah, right?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Thanks for the link.
This promises to be a sane, well-informed guide to the tradition which brought
us all to FFL.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
New Paul Mason book on TM
http://www.amazon.com/Roots-TM-Transcendental-Meditation-Maharishi/dp/0956222889/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1435842793sr=1-1keywords=roots+of+tm
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
'Roots of TM' offers information about Maharishi's 'missing years', from the
time when his master passed away through to the gradual build up of his stated
mission to spiritually regenerate the world
I am looking forward to what Mason has to say, I always had the idea that those
years Marshy spent lazing around on his parent's couch when he wasn't hanging
out in the local hooka den with his hooligan friends. But we shall see.
I also like the idea it was written by Paul Mason since if I remember correctly
Nabby and a couple other true believers hated Mason for his other Marshy book.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 7:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
Is Girish mentioned in this book? Just askin' about OUR ROOTS.
Any mention of these issues that I noted the other day? Here's the snip:
This movement is TAINTED in the headlines with regularity. ACTUAL Rapist
psychiatrist, ACTUAL illegal convicted hustler Beckley, ACTUAL commodity
scandal, ACTUAL campus murder scandal, ACTUAL serial rapist in the dome
house, ACTUAL indentured servitude of foreigners, ACTUAL Maharishi scandals,
ACTUAL Girish scandals, ACTUAL MUM leaders' sex scandals, ACTUAL vile it's
real science posturing, ACTUAL false promising of results, ACTUAL snake oil
huxterisms for illegally smuggled drugs containing mercury, ACTUAL campus
suicides, ACTUAL Kaplan scandal, and on and on and on...
Any mention of the above?
Any?
A whiff of a hint of a nuance of a bit of a titch of a mention?
Nah, right?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :
Thanks for the link.
This promises to be a sane, well-informed guide to the tradition which brought
us all to FFL.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
New Paul Mason book on TM
http://www.amazon.com/Roots-TM-Transcendental-Meditation-Maharishi/dp/0956222889/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1435842793sr=1-1keywords=roots+of+tm
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
Would you have the same laissez faire attitude about Robin if he set up shop
again recruiting followers to gain enlightenment?
Sal and I have clearly explained our position of such TM related hucksterism,
but you have not said why you think they should be given a free pass.
And why do you not extend your let all do as they please philosophy to folks
like Sal and myself?
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
It is her TM fantasy proclivities I don't care for, plus the fact that she is
setting herself up, with Oprah's help as a life coach!?!?! With what training?
And how do you get a session with her?
You can't - she is doing all this pr to sell her upcoming book and whatever
other nostrums, bangles, baubles and gewgaws she will sell in the future.
You and Doug love to blabber about what a fine place Fairfield is, I would
think if you really love the place you would be hesitant to see another
huckster move into town - but if you still revere Marshy, I shouldn't be
surprised.
Why attack Feste? He's just having some fun with you, MJ.
Again, screw TM and screw the bullshit let's take advantage of everybody we can
mentality it often breeds. She got all her problems solved with 20 minutes of
TM, and now she is living her dream life by selling a book? About what?
According to her pr it is about: telling other women how to live the life she
wants, set her own rules, become naturally moreattractive and in the process,
uplift herself and the world
Who the fuck is she to be giving advice to other women? Based on what? Two
years of TM?
MJ, it is pretty funny. Take a look at her and just have a laugh. There's
someone putting out their spiritual shingle every five minutes. She's just one
more.
If her blabber about TM is her truth, then the only substantive advice she can
give women is do TM? They need to pre-order a book to hear that? And if she has
a bunch of other stuff to offer it means TM is not the panacea she claims it is.
She is just another TM huckster - there have been many and she is just the
latest in a long line, getting help from the TM people and Oprah. Without them,
she wouldn't have shit for a venue to hawk her nostrums.
Is this TM's fault? I think she's quite the entrepreneur, myself. It doesn't
appeal to me, any of it, but hey, let her psycho babble her way to fame and
fortune. She appears pretty narcissistic to me. What harm is it all doing you?
I predict that she is one of those who claim to be fabulously happy on the
outside with all kinds of snakes crawling around in her head. She will crash
and burn like most of them do, just like that psychotic Jim Carrey is doing.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
If you don't care for beautiful women, what about her dog, then?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Not for all the tea in China
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
But wouldn't you like to date her, MJ?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Same gal, different interview - look at how they are presenting TM, as if it
cures everything in the world - this is the kind of pr that is both misleading
and ultimately harmful to people who don't know anything about meditation or TM
specifically.
INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation teacher
| |
| | | | | | | |
| INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation t...Our long interview
about life death, joy sorrow, and of course Transcendental Meditation --
please meet Valerie Gangas, an ordinary kid with an incredible exper... |
| |
| View on tmhome.com | Preview by Yahoo |
| |
| |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
What about the cigarette?
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
.Her explanations sound very pat and very stereotypical of howenlightenment is
supposed to be and feel if you've been watching Disneymovies
Oh what a fine post - I like that description very much!
It's true. She is no more enlightened than I'm Mary Queen of Scots. But it is
good for a little chuckle. She reminds me of many others I have seen, some even
on Batgap, who figure their niche is to play the spiritual card while promoting
themselves as all sexy and desirable. I see you didn't fall for it. She's not
my type either.
From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Same gal, different interview - look at how they are presenting TM, as if it
cures everything in the world - this is the kind of pr that is both misleading
and ultimately harmful to people who don't know anything about meditation or TM
specifically.
INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation teacher
| |
| | | | | | | |
| INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation t...Our long interview
about life death, joy sorrow, and of course Transcendental Meditation --
please meet Valerie Gangas, an ordinary kid with an incredible exper... |
| |
| View on tmhome.com | Preview by Yahoo |
| |
| |
I'm not sure if they are presenting TM that way but Valerie certainly looks
like she is. I don't blame TM for how she is brimming over with joy at her
one-meditation-and-I'm-enlightened shtick here. This is her deal. And I'm not
really buying it. Her explanations sound very pat and very stereotypical of how
enlightenment is supposed to be and feel if you've been watching Disney movies
but I'm pretty sure it isn't. Still, she may be genuine and she might be in
Brahman for all I know but I won't be making an appointment with her to solve
my personal life's journeys problems anytime soon.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
Ahh, the enlightened attitude! Is this the way you learned to view women whilst
an MIU professor? Or is sexism your general stock in trade. I bet you learned
to view women as sex objects as you learned wisdom from Johnnie Hagelin, since
he was so good at it with his female students.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
If a woman looks like that, who cares what she talks about?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Not for all the tea in China
It gets better.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
But wouldn't you like to date her, MJ?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Same gal, different interview - look at how they are presenting TM, as if it
cures everything in the world - this is the kind of pr that is both misleading
and ultimately harmful to people who don't know anything about meditation or TM
specifically.
INTERVIEW: Valerie Gangas, life-coach and meditation teacher
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about life death, joy sorrow, and of course Transcendental Meditation --
please meet Valerie Gangas, an ordinary kid with an incredible exper... |
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[FairfieldLife] Puddicombe
Another huckster sob that needs to have his ass whipped. Enlightenment on Your iPhone | | | | | | | | | | | Enlightenment on Your iPhoneHeadspace, an app created by an ex-monk, teaches meditation to digital burnouts. | | | | View on www.newyorker.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
Perfect! I shall remember that one!
From: ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 2:57 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Cures All
I've written the follow up book Fifty Shades of Gayatri.
My wife and I always crack up at the job title Life Coach. To me it's a
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
if your assertions are true, how do you account for the fact that other members
of the Indian TMO have accused Girish of fraud, manipulation, creating fake
documents and selling off Movement lands in direct contravention of Marshy's
wishes after his death? They are suing him over these illegal land grabs and
land sales.
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual,
financial and sexual criminal?
yes I have rejected all your accusations with a sweep of my keyboard,
Girish is not the leader of the movement, and all international monies going to
India have been closely monitored for years, since not long after Maharishi
passed, by Raja Harris Caplan. Those responsible for having let monies go to
India without careful accounting don't have any financial responsibility or
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
How do you account for all the temper tantrums Marshy had, especially when he
lost court cases or one of his girlfriends ran off and left him?
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual,
financial and sexual criminal?
Anger is not much good for anything, in my experience.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
So we should all be calm little sheep? Its good for the liver to get that anger
out every now and again.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial
and sexual criminal?
I have no idea whether it is true. What draws my attention is the boiling
rage and fury that sweeps all over Edg as he sprints off on another wild rant.
It's either a good act or Edg is very much in need of some pitta-pacifying tea.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?
Is it not true then? Or should we be burying our heads in the sand like
everyone else in the TMO, it couldn't be imperfect could it?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil.
That's the issue to debate.
I'll take the affirmative position.
My arguments:
1. Spiritual criminal. With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
LIKE FUCKING WHY? We are given NOTHING. He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos. HE DIDN'T EARN IT. He stole it.
And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this. Not true believers
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys. I'm looking at you
DOUG.
Or, if you prefer an emotional argument: This sick fuck makes me nauseous just
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on
domination.
2. Financial criminal. The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a
decades-long history of crimes. Large amounts of money go unaccounted. In
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal
instead of accepting him as an honest person. He shows zero motivation to
explain how and why he deserves his present position. The TMO's books are
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be
inspected.
3. Rapist. The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish
raped a woman. END OF STORY. Girish should resign.
Why? Because: Rama and Sita.
Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued. FALSELY, but Rama sent her to
hell because A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or
convicted of sexual crimes. Yet the TMO ignores these vile blackeyes.
Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said Fuck your fame.I'm
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and
your shit jobs at MUM.
Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014
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Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The
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ogi Ved... | |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it.But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start. Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I care about people I know being conned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong world saving focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many problems that it isn't supposed to have. And you think his dislike of us apostates is reasonable? It always sounded scary to me. And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he might do that as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip That's why he hates this place and all its apostates because we remind him that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed in front
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing
the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in
general.
As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for
Oprah?And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for them
- but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free apparently.
Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time
before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you
won't have to bad karma.
From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
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[FairfieldLife] Veddy British
Felt quite the Scorpion yesterday, probably because I had smoked kippers on toast for breakfast, spent much of the day with my daughter and on the way home listened to the Kinks. Their hits, Sunny Afternoon and Dead End Street sound rather apropos to the Scorpion Land of today.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. Exactly and if he is any kind of a scientist, he knows it is not true and is therefore liar, huckster, fraud and con artist. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do so. But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by respected and non respected scientists. Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Heis spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. Ifpeople want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Isanyone being coerced to participate? This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it.But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start. Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I care about people I know being conned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you
Re: [FairfieldLife] They're coming after Jimmy Boy.
Yea-yah, Baba! Another high profile TM'er bites the dust - ahh, but we all
know from the TM and MUM pr that regular practice of TM gives rise to stable
mental states.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 8:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] They're coming after Jimmy Boy.
Jim Carrey’s Descent into Madness
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
Oh, yeah, I forgot about them - fuck purusha too.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
So how many Purusha could he(MJ) support?
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
Just think of MJ as FFL's Donald Trump. ;-)
On 07/01/2015 03:46 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
As RW would say. Somebody, or something did a number on MJ.
I think he just loaded himself with enough outrage for the next thirty to
sixty days.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
This lady moved to Fairfield and loves it (as do others) and writes this very
nice article and creates a blog for others to express themselves as well. And
all Michael Jackson can do is come out with his usual stream of bilious
negativity, utterly determined to see the worst in everything TM.
Now here's the truth: if you like small towns in the Midwest, and have a
spiritual turn of mind, it's hard to beat Fairfield as a place to live. Many,
many people have contributed much effort over decades to make it the place it
is today. I am very happy to be here, and I am sorry that Michael Jackson has
nothing better to do with his time than carp and criticize.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing
the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in
gener! al.
As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for
Oprah? And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for
them - but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free
apparently.
Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time
before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you
won't have to bad karma.
From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
Yep Gina Catena gave a talk there last year, telling about her days in the TM
Movement - I listened to the audio they recorded - quite good.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
For those who don't know, the Commonwealth Club usually has talks by
famous politicians, authors, scientists, industry leaders, economists, etc.
Not usually folks like Kardashian.
On 07/01/2015 01:36 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Kim is a good candidate for TM, although she appears to have been born as
an Orthodox Christian. I'll have to check out her jyotish chart to find out
why she's so popular or infamous, depending on your point of view.
Lately, many TMers are in the news, particularly Kate Perry who wants to buy
a convent in LA. Perhaps, that would be a good place for siddhas to perform
the flying sutras. But she appears to be getting the support of Nature based
on her current popularity and success.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Kim Kardashian speaks at the SF Commonwealth Club:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_28412733/kim-kardashian-delights-san-francisco-audiences
Perhaps David Lynch gets her to start TM? Enlightened sex videos?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
If you were the spiritually aware and practicing person one would THINK a
former MIU faculty member would be, you would not follow in my footsteps by
carping about my post or criticizing me. But typical TM created response there.
I liked Fairfield very much, setting aside the TM'ers - ah, I couldn't resist
that one!
I take exception to her continuing the bullshit over the top blabber about how
fabulous TM is - if point out that even you don't do it anymore or maybe that
was just TMSP you dropped.
Anyhow, the Movement and its enablers are still conning people into buying a
pig in a poke and it stinks. No free passes from me on that issue, I feel the
same as Sal, except I am more concerned with the innocent people who are
listening to this gal and her David Lynch buddies - by the time they figure out
they've been had, too much damage may have occurred and they'll have to join
FFL to help them figure it all out.
I like Fairfield Iowa very much. Fuck TM, fuck MUM and fuck the hucksters that
promote TM.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
This lady moved to Fairfield and loves it (as do others) and writes this
very nice article and creates a blog for others to express themselves as well.
And all Michael Jackson can do is come out with his usual stream of bilious
negativity, utterly determined to see the worst in everything TM. Now here's
the truth: if you like small towns in the Midwest, and have a spiritual turn of
mind, it's hard to beat Fairfield as a place to live. Many, many people have
contributed much effort over decades to make it the place it is today. I am
very happy to be here, and I am sorry that Michael Jackson has nothing better
to do with his time than carp and criticize.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing
the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in
general.
As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for
Oprah?And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for them
- but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free apparently.
Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time
before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you
won't have to bad karma.
From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
I bet Hagelin would consent to making a sex tape with her to amp up his
profile.
From: ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:52 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
Kimmy learning to meditate would give a whole new meaning to rounding.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Confederates in Brazil
Yep, they shore nuff did - General Joe Shelby and a bunch of others, but they
got tired of it and moved back after a while - never did surrender to the US
tho.
From: yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Confederates in Brazil
Moved from the US to Brazil in 1865:Confederados - Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
So we should all be calm little sheep? Its good for the liver to get that anger
out every now and again.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial
and sexual criminal?
I have no idea whether it is true. What draws my attention is the boiling
rage and fury that sweeps all over Edg as he sprints off on another wild rant.
It's either a good act or Edg is very much in need of some pitta-pacifying tea.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?
Is it not true then? Or should we be burying our heads in the sand like
everyone else in the TMO, it couldn't be imperfect could it?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil.
That's the issue to debate.
I'll take the affirmative position.
My arguments:
1. Spiritual criminal. With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
LIKE FUCKING WHY? We are given NOTHING. He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos. HE DIDN'T EARN IT. He stole it.
And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this. Not true believers
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys. I'm looking at you
DOUG.
Or, if you prefer an emotional argument: This sick fuck makes me nauseous just
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on
domination.
2. Financial criminal. The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a
decades-long history of crimes. Large amounts of money go unaccounted. In
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal
instead of accepting him as an honest person. He shows zero motivation to
explain how and why he deserves his present position. The TMO's books are
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be
inspected.
3. Rapist. The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish
raped a woman. END OF STORY. Girish should resign.
Why? Because: Rama and Sita.
Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued. FALSELY, but Rama sent her to
hell because A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or
convicted of sexual crimes. Yet the TMO ignores these vile blackeyes.
Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said Fuck your fame.I'm
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and
your shit jobs at MUM.
Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014
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Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The
police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh
ogi Ved... | |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
Girish is as big a piece of trash as his uncle was.
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual,
financial and sexual criminal?
you don't have the slightest proof that Girish has any substantial amount
of money at his disposal or for 99 percent of what you blather here, which is
usually recycled unsubstantiated accusations from decades ago or nonsense that
has been repeated here enough times that you and others like you imagine it has
some meaning. You like a cartoon bot that spews any lame overblown rhetoric to
defame. Not that it matters as I doubt anyone with intelligence gives credence
to any of it. #yiv7954567866 #yiv7954567866 -- #yiv7954567866ygrp-mkp
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
And Girish has more than enough money to make all the accusation go away by
bribing the police and politicians which is why he has not been tried and
convicted already.
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 6:28 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial
and sexual criminal?
you are exxagerating ,
making unjustified accusations,
and I never heard of any 20 witnesses of the rape claim, there is a lot of
problems with her claim. why would you allow these things to go on for 20
years? there is a lot of intrigue around caste in India with still resentments
by Brahmins against the TM movement for the Kayasthas having become the biggest
employer of Brahmins. note the family names of the accusers. there are elements
of Indian society that would not hesitate to put someone up to making a false
claim against Girish. #yiv6917585419 #yiv6917585419 -- #yiv6917585419ygrp-mkp
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Sunset on the river Thames...
is this a generic photo or did you take it?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sunset on the river Thames...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
It all sounds like anthropomorphism to me. I don't get that the universe would be so interested in us that it provides a recording service. Belly laugh of the morning, thanks Sal! life without chocolate cake isn't higher at all. I will amend that statement only to the extent of replacing chocolate cake with coffee ice cream. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Well, there are detailed accounts of individuals accessing the Akashic Records , but in a subjective, non verifiable way. Hence, here at least, I don't think you have anyone lobbying for its existence. I have read enough accounts to make me believe it exists. On the other hand, I have always enjoyed reading accounts of this sort, so it is always of interest. And, of course, what is said to be far fetched, or impossible at one point in time, has become the reality, and commonplace little farther down the line. It all sounds like anthropomorphism to me. I don't get that the universe would be so interested in us that it provides a recording service. It's a nice idea though, I'd like to access the record of what happened on my 25th birthday so my autobiography will be complete. Speaking of unexplained phenomena in the here and now, what would you make of something like this? First of all, consider the source. Second, people can't live without burning calories, try it if you like - but not for long. Third, every other recent case of people living on air or sunlight has turned out to be a fraud. Four, why do people think it amazing or spiritual if people could live on fresh air? I think it's because this would be an outward symbol of inner changes that we don't understand. That eating is some sort of attachment and that they are now connected to some higher source that sustains them. It doesn't appeal to me anyway, life without chocolate cake isn't higher at all. “Buddha Boy” Goes 10 Months Without Food Or Water, Scientific Community Is Baffled | | | | | | “Buddha Boy” Goes 10 Months Without Food Or W... Is it possible for humans to not eat or consume water for longer than 3 or 4 days? What used to be scientifically impossible is now under great question ... | | |View on www.collective-evolut... | Preview by Yahoo | | | ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : snip I agree with Michael, that the idea seems to be woo bullshit. In a scientific system (physics) the differential equations can show the state of a system past, present, and future, if you have some data to plug in, but the indeterminacy effect of the statistical uncertainty in quantum mechanics makes dredging up the past or predicting the future fuzzy. Also in Woo-land the mechanics of how 'akashic records' could be accessed does not seem to be described with any particular clarity. The only really certain thing is the strong belief that people have in what they imagine to be true. It seems to me the universe has properties that prevent us from finding out stuff beyond a certain level of detail. For example, the speed of light prevents us from knowing what is happening in distant galaxies now, we only can see the way they were millions of years ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : As usual, you are pretty funny Michael. Of course there have been numerous references to the Akashic Records before Madame Blavatsky, they just didn't call them, the Akashic Records. Does that mean they are real? I don't hear anyone claiming they are, do you? But, with your permission, perhaps we can discuss the possibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Might you be willing to entertain the idea that the akashic records are just some esoteric bullshit that well meaning new age bullshiters made up, even if they really believed in their existence? I definitely include C Lutes in the ranks of esoteric new age bullshiters -for all his connections with Marshy and his declaration of being enlightened, he was as much of a fringe guy as anyone who ever gave a lecture Doesn't seem to be any record of akashic records before Blavatsky and her theosophical kooks - they made it up. Good for psychics and other readers who purport to read them for folks, always for a fee of course. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics? Charlie Lutes liked to talk a lot ofabout it but I've read a number of others on the subject. Ididn't find them varying much in the description. Scientifically,if we radiate electrical impulses those might get caught in somekind of ether or celestial realms
Re: [FairfieldLife] Frack Off!
It won't last, unless your national politicians are immune to the bribes and
blandishments of oil and energy companies
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 2:44 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Frack Off!
Well, it looks like Scorpionland is going to reject gas fracturing as a way of
providing us with non-Russian fuel. Given the fragile state of world energy
industry our ageing nuclear power stations, and the need to reduce coal burning
I guess it's about time I stocked up on candles and firewood. And maybe some
guns
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Spying in Guru Land...
Hard to believe Shaw didn't have a go at the Movement guys. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 11:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Spying in Guru Land... Was just going through my book shelves with a view to clearing some space with a trip to the charity shops down town, when I came upon my copy of journalist William Shaw's mini-masterpiece Spying in Guru Land - inside Britain's cults. What a great book. It was written after the Branch Davidian massacre at Waco in Texas, Shaw wondered if there was anything similar waiting to happen in the UK, some dangerous and hidden sect ready to take on the forces of law and order. So he decided to spend a year joining as many secretive religious sects and cults as he could find and then, without mocking the beliefs or the people holding them, present an overview of the sort of belief systems that you can get involved if you want, or if you aren't careful. The result is a charming and wry look at some highly odd ideas, both eastern and western and even mixed together sometimes. Some very colourful leaders and some even deliberately colourless ones too. The usual confused but eager flocks are there, desperate for guidance or just something to believe in in an increasing secular world. I bet the only group anyone here will have heard of are ISKCON - The International Society for Krishna Consciousness - but you are missing out on some gems. My favourites the first time I read it in 1995 are undoubtably The Chrissema Foundation. Named after it's founders Chris Orchard and Emma Lea they were a very small scale but growing outfit having just started to get going after Chris had finished his quest and deciding that he knew the answers to life. In fact, it turned out that he didn't know where to look until he met his girlfriend Emma, who is described as looking like the girl behind the checkout at Boots, all peroxide hair and pink lipstick. The secret of the Chrissemma success is that followers can find enlightenment in observing the perfect relationship of the founders The dynamic of Chris and I being together is the latest God Technology says Emma. To be fair they weren't expensive, an hour long session held every week cost each participant £10 which is peanuts. And for that they'd get advice on relationships, career and spiritual matters. Here's a sneek peek; The other week Emma went fishing and she caught a fish, a mackerel. Afterwards some of you came up and asked how she killed it. The thing is, it is of absolutely no concern how she killed it. There are a few ways to kill a fish - letting it drown in air or hitting its head on something hard - Emma didn't care, it didn't matter to her as she has reached a stage of enlightenment where it doesn't matter how a fish dies. It's just doing the fish thing and if you want to stop it suffering then you have started suffering yourself. It's a very human thing to want to interfere, we hear about a war in Bosnia and we want to stop the suffering but it's a product of our own psyche. If we banish the suffering in our own minds we banish the suffering of others It's all great stuff, a mixture of nihilism, the surrender to the eventual misery of failed relationships and the inevitability of death and a curious east/west folk therapy. You'll possibly be surprised to find that when Chrissema decided they wanted to move to a different area the whole congregation of their fledgling group moved towns with them, changing jobs and everything! And it isn't like the help they got was particularly useful - staying in destructive relationships etc. I've always thought that each type of spiritual group will attract the people most suited to it this makes me wonder if it's in any way predictable, maybe there's an app we could write that matches a group to an individual? Anyway, I was really enjoying reading about these guys again,and the others in the book like the followers of Holy John, The Gurdjeiff system taught at the misleadingly titled School of Economic Science and The Jesus Army when I started to wonder what they were all doing now and if there had ever been a follow up from Shaw as to the current state - 20 years on - of Britain's cults. It turns out there hasn't so I thought I'd do a review of them myself using the much easier modern method of information gathering, a half hour on Google I figured that with increased exposure via the web these groups must have grown exponentially but guess what? They didn't. They've all gone. With the exception of ISKCON and The Jesus Army we are now bereft of all of them, even the wisdom of Chris and Emma, who seem to have disappeared about the same time as the net got popular. How impoverished is our national life now that there are no organised groups like The Emin with their theatrical new age practices and belief in auras and controlling natural laws?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
which akashic record you talkin' about? there are quite a few depending on
which new age whacko you consult for your records
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
The intellect is binary so not that hard to model. It is yes or no. A US
Berkeley student did a graduate paper which I read back in the 1990s. I had
suggested this to our development team before the paper was published and one
of the project leads came across it. I recall the student got some interesting
and unexpected results with his model.
Neural networks are a way of learning. They've been around for awhile. My
books probably date back to the 1980s. But what if our brains are really
nothing more than receiver/transmitters that communicate with the akashic
record? Yeah, a bit woo-woo maybe but could indeed be a possibility. Might
explain some things.
On 06/28/2015 12:01 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Everything is debatable. In an ironic sort of way, artificial intelligence
does apply to humans. I often think of you as having artificial intelligence.
Attempting to replicate human intelligence has so far failed because the human
neural network of connexions is so complex. Many researchers are investigating
insect intelligence, which is a simpler model to try to understand. That Google
paper was interesting. Here is one of the conversations from that original
paper:
Human: what is the purpose of life? Machine: to serve the greater good.
Human: what is the purpose of living? Machine: to live forever. Human: what is
the purpose of existence? Machine: to find out what happens when we get to the
planet earth. Human: where are y! ou now? Machine: i'm in the middle of
nowhere. Human: what is the purpose of dying? Machine: to have a life. Human:
what is the purpose of being intelligent? Machine: to find out what it is.
Human: what is the purpose of emotions? Machine: i don't know.
I attached the original paper, A Neural Conversational Model, to this post.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Xeno,
I had to take a double-take to understand what you're saying. You seem to be
saying that humans are machines too. That's debatable. In this context, we're
talking about artificial intelligence which does not apply to humans.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Of course we can. The query to be answered is whether it is worth the
computing time and the bother of implementation.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
One machine said NO...which is correct. It's database was based on movie
scripts. But if the database included philosophical and ethics discussions,
the machine could have gotten the correct answer from those discussions. Even
if it got the correct answer, the machine still does not know what it said.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
Might you be willing to entertain the idea that the akashic records are just
some esoteric bullshit that well meaning new age bullshiters made up, even if
they really believed in their existence? I definitely include C Lutes in the
ranks of esoteric new age bullshiters -for all his connections with Marshy and
his declaration of being enlightened, he was as much of a fringe guy as anyone
who ever gave a lecture
Doesn't seem to be any record of akashic records before Blavatsky and her
theosophical kooks - they made it up. Good for psychics and other readers who
purport to read them for folks, always for a fee of course.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
Charlie Lutes liked to talk a lot of about it but I've read a number of
others on the subject. I didn't find them varying much in the description.
Scientifically, if we radiate electrical impulses those might get caught in
some kind of ether or celestial realms. This is something that has not
been researched much.
This would mean that human beings are a terminal to a cosmic computer. :-D
On 06/28/2015 02:17 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
which akashic record you talkin' about? there are quite a few depending on
which new age whacko you consult for your records
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
The intellect is binary so not that hard to model. It is yes or no.
A US Berkeley student did a graduate paper which I read back in the 1990s. I
had suggested this to our development team before the paper was published and
one of the project leads came across it. I recall the student got some
interesting and unexpected results with his model.
Neural networks are a way of learning. They've been around for awhile. My
books probably date back to the 1980s. But what if our brains are really
nothing more than receiver/transmitters that communicate with the akashic
record? Yeah, a bit woo-woo maybe but could indeed be a possibility. Might
explain some things.
On 06/28/2015 12:01 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Everything is debatable. In an ironic sort of way, artificial intelligence
does apply to humans. I often think of you as having artificial intelligence.
Attempting to replicate human intelligence has so far failed because the human
neural network of connexions is so complex. Many researchers are investigating
insect intelligence, which is a simpler model to try to understand. That
Google paper was interesting. Here is one of the conversations from that
original paper:
Human: what is the purpose of life? Machine: to serve the greater good.
Human: what is the purpose of living? Machine: to live forever. Human: what is
the purpose of existence? Machine: to find out what happens when we get to the
planet earth. Human: where are y! ou now? Machine: i'm in the middle of
nowhere. Human: what is the purpose of dying? Machine: to have a life. Human:
what is the purpose of being intelligent? Machine: to find out what it is.
Human: what is the purpose of emotions? Machine: i don't know.
I attached the original paper, A Neural Conversational Model, to this post.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Xeno,
I had to take a double-take to understand what you're saying. You seem to be
saying that humans are machines too. That's debatable. In this context, we're
talking about artificial intelligence which does not apply to humans.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Of course we can. The query to be answered is whether it is worth the
computing time and the bother of implementation.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
One machine said NO...which is correct. It's database was based on movie
scripts. But if the database included philosophical and ethics discussions,
the machine could have gotten the correct answer from those discussions. Even
if it got the correct answer, the machine still does not know what it said.
Artificial Intelligence Machine Gets Testy With Its Programmer
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
There are a number of people here in SC that are convinced the end of humanity is nigh because of the gay marriage ruling and the removal of the flag movements. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics? Yup, it's just a theory for now. But there's a lot we don't know about our universe and how things work. People who might discount the notion might be the same kind of soul at one time who wouldn't believe that the world was round. There are a probably a lot of surprises coming that is if the human race survives. On 06/28/2015 03:25 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As usual, you are pretty funny Michael. Of course there have been numerous references to the Akashic Records before Madame Blavatsky, they just didn't call them, the Akashic Records. Does that mean they are real? I don't hear anyone claiming they are, do you? But, with your permission, perhaps we can discuss the possibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Might you be willing to entertain the idea that the akashic records are just some esoteric bullshit that well meaning new age bullshiters made up, even if they really believed in their existence? I definitely include C Lutes in the ranks of esoteric new age bullshiters -for all his connections with Marshy and his declaration of being enlightened, he was as much of a fringe guy as anyone who ever gave a lecture Doesn't seem to be any record of akashic records before Blavatsky and her theosophical kooks - they made it up. Good for psychics and other readers who purport to read them for folks, always for a fee of course. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics? Charlie Lutes liked to talk a lot of about it but I've read a number of others on the subject. I didn't find them varying much in the description. Scientifically, if we radiate electrical impulses those might get caught in some kind of ether or celestial realms. This is something that has not been researched much. This would mean that human beings are a terminal to a cosmic computer. :-D On 06/28/2015 02:17 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: whichakashic record you talkin' about? there are quite a few depending on which new age whacko you consult for your records From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics? Theintellect is binary so not that hard to model. It is yes or no. A US Berkeley student did a graduate paper which I read back in the 1990s. I had suggested this to our development team before the paper was published and one of the project leads came across it. I recall the student got some interesting and unexpected results with his model. Neural networks are a way of learning. They've been around for awhile. My books probably date back to the 1980s. But what if our brains are really nothing more than receiver/transmitters that communicate with the akashic record? Yeah, a bit woo-woo maybe but could indeed be a possibility. Might explain some things. On 06/28/2015 12:01 PM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Everythingis debatable. In an ironic sort of way, artificial intelligence does apply to humans. I often think of you as having artificial intelligence. Attempting to replicate human intelligence has so far failed because the human neural network of connexions is so complex. Many researchers are investigating insect intelligence, which is a simpler model to try to understand. That Google paper was interesting. Here is one of the conversations from that original paper: Human: what is the purpose of life? Machine: to serve the greater good. Human: what is the purpose of living? Machine: to live forever. Human: what is the purpose of existence? Machine: to find out what happens when we get to the planet earth. Human: where are y! ou now? Machine: i'm in the middle of nowhere. Human: what is the purpose of dying? Machine: to have a life. Human: what is the purpose of being intelligent? Machine: to find out what it is. Human: what is the purpose of emotions? Machine: i don't know. I attached the original paper, A Neural Conversational Model, to this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, I had to take a double-take to understand what you're saying. You seem to be saying that humans are machines too. That's
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics?
List 'em Steve, then we''ll talk. Dunno what kind of fags she smoked, proly some European brand, or maybe since she was so enamored of India she got those bidis. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics? Does anyone know the brand of cigars or cigarettes that Helena Blavatsky smoked? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : As usual, you are pretty funny Michael. Of course there have been numerous references to the Akashic Records before Madame Blavatsky, they just didn't call them, the Akashic Records. Does that mean they are real? I don't hear anyone claiming they are, do you? But, with your permission, perhaps we can discuss the possibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Might you be willing to entertain the idea that the akashic records are just some esoteric bullshit that well meaning new age bullshiters made up, even if they really believed in their existence? I definitely include C Lutes in the ranks of esoteric new age bullshiters -for all his connections with Marshy and his declaration of being enlightened, he was as much of a fringe guy as anyone who ever gave a lecture Doesn't seem to be any record of akashic records before Blavatsky and her theosophical kooks - they made it up. Good for psychics and other readers who purport to read them for folks, always for a fee of course. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines Know Ethics? Charlie Lutes liked to talk a lot ofabout it but I've read a number of others on the subject. Ididn't find them varying much in the description. Scientifically,if we radiate electrical impulses those might get caught in somekind of ether or celestial realms. This is something that hasnot been researched much. This would mean that human beings are a terminal to a cosmiccomputer. :-D On 06/28/2015 02:17 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@...[FairfieldLife] wrote: whichakashic record you talkin' about? there are quite a fewdepending on which new age whacko you consult for yourrecords From:Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent:Sunday, June 28, 2015 5:06 PM Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can AI Machines KnowEthics? Theintellect is binary so not that hard tomodel. It is yes or no. A US Berkeleystudent did a graduate paper which Iread back in the 1990s. I had suggestedthis to our development team before thepaper was published and one of theproject leads came across it. I recallthe student got some interesting andunexpected results with his model. Neural networks are a way of learning. They've been around for awhile. Mybooks probably date back to the 1980s. But what if our brains are reallynothing more than receiver/transmittersthat communicate with the akashicrecord? Yeah, a bit woo-woo maybebut could indeed be a possibility. Might explain some things. On 06/28/2015 12:01 PM, anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] wrote: Everythingis debatable. In an ironic sort ofway, artificial intelligence doesapply to humans. I often think ofyou as having artificialintelligence. Attempting toreplicate human intelligence hasso far failed because the humanneural network of connexions is socomplex. Many researchers areinvestigating insect intelligence,which is a simpler model to try tounderstand. That Google paper wasinteresting. Here is one of theconversations from that originalpaper: Human:what is the purpose of life?Machine:to serve the greater good.Human:what is the purpose of living?Machine:to live forever.Human:what is the purpose ofexistence?Machine:to find out what happens when weget to the planet earth.Human:where are y! ou now?Machine:i'm in the middle of nowhere.Human:what is the purpose of dying?Machine:to have a life.Human:what is the purpose of beingintelligent?Machine:to find out what it is.Human:what is the purpose of emotions?Machine:i don't know. Iattached the original paper, ANeural Conversational Model,to this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,jr_esq@...wrote : Xeno, I had to take a double-taketo understand what you'resaying. You seem to be sayingthat humans are machines too. That's debatable. In thiscontext, we're talking aboutartificial intelligence whichdoes not apply to humans. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,anartaxius@...wrote : Of coursewe can. The query to beanswered is whether itis worth the computingtime and the bother ofimplementation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,jr_esq@...wrote : One machinesaid NO...which iscorrect. It'sdatabase was basedon movie scripts. But if thedatabase includedphilosophical
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM and the Gay Community
One gay TM teacher? I am sure there are more and have always been - one of the
dozen or so teachers I knew in SC when I first started TM was gay (he still
is). But it was never accepted and the gay people I knew in the Movement were
always real careful to hide it or risk getting kicked off staff or refused
entrance on courses.
I'll see the new TMO when it ever manifests, if ever. The Movement doesn't have
a very good track record when it comes to manifesting decent behavior.
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM and the Gay Community
there is a new open gay and openly hiv positive teacher in the USA. you
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[FairfieldLife] TM and the Gay Community
Given the fact that the Movement has historically been quietly inimical to the gay community and lifestyle, I wonder if the honchos of MUM consider the recent Supreme Court decision as a sign of the Rising Sunshine of the Age of Enlightenment, or proof that the rakshasas are afoot, and more donations for all TM programmes are needed?
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM and the Gay Community
You come up with some good ones Mike! That gave me a good laugh - thanks!
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM and the Gay Community
Oh, most definitely, my dear shishya. A global yagya to correct the mistake
of the intellect must be performed. This will cost hundreds of millions. If
not, your children may become homos.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 3:32 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM and the Gay Community
Given the fact that the Movement has historically been quietly inimical to
the gay community and lifestyle, I wonder if the honchos of MUM consider the
recent Supreme Court decision as a sign of the Rising Sunshine of the Age of
Enlightenment, or proof that the rakshasas are afoot, and more donations for
all TM programmes are needed?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reaffirming The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
O yeah, I had forgotten Bucky wanted to shut FFL down - but he got better
than that, now he is the main-most person in charge!
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:51 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reaffirming The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Et tu Edg?
So if he culls one from the herd unfairly, but you don't like the guy anyway it
is OK?
Say it is not true my brother, say it is not true.
It is only when he comes for you that you will get a sense of conscience? Right
now, bouncing me would be more trouble than it would be worth, but by the
criteria already used, I am just as vulnerable and so are you. If the criteria
is held in secret and is whatever the F he feels like then it is just a
matter of time until only the Age of Enlightenment News gets broadcast here.
And before I am accused of the slippery slope fallacy, I lived this exact brand
of control in the same movement Buck was trained in. He is already referring to
opposing his banning with zero accountability as nitpicking.
Do you care that he lied about Rick being behind this ban with him? Have you
ever been in a room where some sanctimonious prick came bustling in and said
Maharishi wants _. And then you find out later that it was just his
idea and he wanted to silence dissent ahead of time by invoking Maharishi's
name?
Before he found this angle Buck was advocating shutting down FFL. He has no
love for free discussion here. I challenge anyone to repost any time he has
engaged in a back and forth discussion with a participant here, the kind you
and I value. Just one. And I double dare anyone to post one where he shows up
as a genuine person talking to another adult instead of this constant
condescension, first veiled by persona and now in the open.
Edg, do ya hear me!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Heh, gotta ask, what's the actual risk of Doug? Will he bounce others? I
don't think so. Look at this scurvy's crew's roiling bitching at each other
that's going on RIGHT NOW, and he's done nothing about that.
Maybe it was a vendetta against the trolls with any reason being enough. So?
Yeah, abusive. So?
I just don't see this kind of fascism happening again unless someone truly
rises to the troll heights -- which was a very high bar being set. Doug
chided me about swearing, but nothing since even though I still swear -- this
shows his, um, forbearance?
Bah, I'm just happy I can post here again without really having to steel myself
for the barbs. Short sighted of me, but there it is. If there is a Sword of
Damocles, it's a heavy chain holding it up.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
Me: You just saved me some typing time. Excellent, thank you.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
But the spirit of FFL was far more interesting than this drivel, and in 10
years Yahoo never made any attempt to change or alter what happened on FFL,
Yahoo really does not care what happens in their groups unless it somehow
affects them financially. You are also incorrect in using the term
re-moderation. This group was moderated, with a light and just hand that
allowed far more than now, true freedom of speech.
Your lack of transparency in the issues you have handled so far reveals the
dark, covert spirit that dwells within. This clandestine spirit is the enemy of
truth seeking, and I for one, vote for your removal from this position.
I see you have resumed spamming FFL, and this is also a violation of the
so-called guidelines.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Dear Friends of FFL; I feel we are moving verymuch within the spirit and intent
of letter of the Yahoo-groups guidelines inthe re-moderation we have done thus
far spam removed.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] To Frack or not to Frack?
Are you kidding? It fucks everything up! There are a gazillion sites covering
both the pros and cons, but from what I have read wherever they have fracked,
the water winds up getting polluted with all the chemicals they use to frack
with - the energy companies always use 2 excuses one of which is to NEVER
release publicly the entire list of chemicals used in fracking, that way they
don't have to admit it came from them, and then they say You don't know that
these chemicals weren't there to start with before we ever came along.
But I thought Scotland and Wales had banned the practice?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] To Frack or not to Frack?
So, it looks like the UK government is going ahead with plans to allow the deep
underground gas fracturing process to go ahead almost everywhere in these
shores.
What I'm wondering is, have any of you been affected by it in America? Did it
make your water undrinkable? More Earthquakes/explosions? Have you run out of
drinking water or had trouble with endless giant lorries filling the country
roads?
Basically, has it been a good thing or not, what's the feeling?
Fracking will be allowed under national parks, UK decides
||
|||| Fracking will be allowed under national parks, UK
decide... Final amendments to infrastructure bill unpick earlier protections,
meaning companies just outside parks will be able to drill horizontally below
them||
| View on www.theguardian.com |Preview by Yahoo|
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reaffirming The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
You might be right, he didn't even ban me for reviling D Lynch lately - of
course one can never be sure, because he sometimes has a delayed reaction to
these things - I think he is mainly loving being the power that can ban if he
chooses.
I have not really shown my contempt for TM, TMSP and the laughable idea of the
Marshy Effect lately, but I'm workin' one up - we'll see how he responds to
that.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:27 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reaffirming The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Heh, gotta ask, what's the actual risk of Doug? Will he bounce others?
I don't think so. Look at this scurvy's crew's roiling bitching at each other
that's going on RIGHT NOW, and he's done nothing about that.
Maybe it was a vendetta against the trolls with any reason being enough. So?
Yeah, abusive. So?
I just don't see this kind of fascism happening again unless someone truly
rises to the troll heights -- which was a very high bar being set. Doug
chided me about swearing, but nothing since even though I still swear -- this
shows his, um, forbearance?
Bah, I'm just happy I can post here again without really having to steel myself
for the barbs. Short sighted of me, but there it is. If there is a Sword of
Damocles, it's a heavy chain holding it up.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
Me: You just saved me some typing time. Excellent, thank you.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
But the spirit of FFL was far more interesting than this drivel, and in 10
years Yahoo never made any attempt to change or alter what happened on FFL,
Yahoo really does not care what happens in their groups unless it somehow
affects them financially. You are also incorrect in using the term
re-moderation. This group was moderated, with a light and just hand that
allowed far more than now, true freedom of speech.
Your lack of transparency in the issues you have handled so far reveals the
dark, covert spirit that dwells within. This clandestine spirit is the enemy of
truth seeking, and I for one, vote for your removal from this position.
I see you have resumed spamming FFL, and this is also a violation of the
so-called guidelines.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
Dear Friends of FFL; I feel we are moving verymuch within the spirit and intent
of letter of the Yahoo-groups guidelines inthe re-moderation we have done thus
far spam removed.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reaffirming The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
Nope, that's a story *you* made up. Nobody's doing that.
You are full of it Judy - show us the post where Doug gave the explanation.
From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 12:35 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reaffirming The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
(snip)
So far Doug has stonewalled us on his reasons for banning Barry. So some are
making up their own to cover this glaring gap.
Nope, that's a story *you* made up. Nobody's doing that.
When I first saw Barry's warcry of defiance--that he was going to ignore
Doug--I thought, Whoops, he's gone too far this time; that's going to get him
bounced. That was before we knew there was going to *be* an explanatory gap.
And I still think that's what pushed him over the edge of Doug's tolerance.
Your post to me, Curtis, is flapping limply in the breeze at the moment. I'll
get to it later this afternoon. In the meantime, you might just want to look up
that post of Ann's I mentioned so you can at least limit your embarrassment
over your Doug-twisted-Rick's-arm story by not repeating it. (Goodness knows
you don't have the integrity to retract it.)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] To Frack or not to Frack?
Busted! Fracking Chemical Found in Wyoming Water Supply
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| Busted! Fracking Chemical Found in Wyoming Water Su...The U.S. EPA has just
released test results indicating that at least one common fracking chemical has
contaminated drinking water in the town of Pavillion, Wyoming... |
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From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] To Frack or not to Frack?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Are you kidding? It fucks everything up! There are a gazillion sites covering
both the pros and cons, but from what I have read wherever they have fracked,
the water winds up getting polluted with all the chemicals they use to frack
with - the energy companies always use 2 excuses one of which is to NEVER
release publicly the entire list of chemicals used in fracking, that way they
don't have to admit it came from them, and then they say You don't know that
these chemicals weren't there to start with before we ever came along.
But I thought Scotland and Wales had banned the practice?
hmm, not sure if they are allowed to ban things.
I'm basically against it but can't see what else they can do as we weren't
interested in alternative energy sources. No one likes wind farms and our
so-called greenest government ever has removed the subsidy for them so the
market will collapse. If we want to keep the lights on it's going to be
fracking or nothing.
The trouble with the UK is it's much smaller and more densely populated than
the USA which is why I asked if anyone had had any personal experience. If it's
bad for people there, any problems will be compounded here.
The chemicals they use are a worry but our government says they won't be
allowed to do pump shit into the ground without telling us what it is. This I
do not believe as the new TTIP agreement will allow foreign companies to sue us
if we damage their business practises. I'll put good money on them getting away
with it too.
I'm a natural energy believer. We live on an island with predictable and strong
tides every day and no one has invested in wave power. It's insane.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 9:11 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] To Frack or not to Frack?
So, it looks like the UK government is going ahead with plans to allow the deep
underground gas fracturing process to go ahead almost everywhere in these
shores.
What I'm wondering is, have any of you been affected by it in America? Did it
make your water undrinkable? More Earthquakes/explosions? Have you run out of
drinking water or had trouble with endless giant lorries filling the country
roads?
Basically, has it been a good thing or not, what's the feeling?
Fracking will be allowed under national parks, UK decides
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| | | | Fracking will be allowed under national parks, UK decide...
Final amendments to infrastructure bill unpick earlier protections, meaning
companies just outside parks will be able to drill horizontally below them | |
| View on www.theguardian.com| Preview by Yahoo |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Frack or not to Frack?
List of the Harmed
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| List of the Harmed-Updated as of May 18th, 2015- *PDF version here - List of
the Harmed The following is an ever-growing list of the individuals and
families that have been harmed by... |
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From: savagehondo no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:39 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Frack or not to Frack?
In the experience of Pennsylvania, natural gas prices fall and jobs are
created both directly in the gas industry and indirectly as regional and
national economies benefit from lower energy costs. Europe can benefit from
lessons learned in Pennsylvania, minimizing damage to the local environment.
The Facts on Fracking
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|||| The Facts on Fracking Environmentalists should
consider the pros and cons of fracking in comparison with other technologies.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
So, it looks like the UK government is going ahead with plans to allow the deep
underground gas fracturing process to go ahead almost everywhere in these
shores.
What I'm wondering is, have any of you been affected by it in America? Did it
make your water undrinkable? More Earthquakes/explosions? Have you run out of
drinking water or had trouble with endless giant lorries filling the country
roads?
Basically, has it been a good thing or not, what's the feeling?
Fracking will be allowed under national parks, UK decides
| |
| | | | Fracking will be allowed under national parks, UK decide...
Final amendments to infrastructure bill unpick earlier protections, meaning
companies just outside parks will be able to drill horizontally below them | |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reaffirming The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines
That's because Barry is an interesting person and an asset to FFL. None of us are blind to his sometimes vituperative behavior, but some of us felt I think that his benefits outweighed his negatives. I for one want him back. From: emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reaffirming The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines What a fuss! I can't ever, in my time here, remember when such a fuss was made about an expulsion. Rather, Rick and Alex had more often to explain why they *weren't* taking such actions. Just consider it part of the larger social experiment of FFL. See where it goes for a year or forever. It's not like BW didn't have more than his fair share of free speech over the last decade here (or so). There comes a time in life when it may be advisable for some to come face to face with the reality of: 1) What they say and do has an impact on others; 2) That impact can leave a legacy; 3) That legacy may be perceived as negative, if they have crossed the line of decency too many times; 4) There may be consequences to their actions that they have to experience. It is just the way it is—some people need lines in concrete. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Thanks for your feedback. Curtis, I think I get where you are coming from. I think most of us do. As I recall, Doug did provide some explanation, but perhaps you felt it was just weak cover to get rid of someone who was a perceived enemy, or at least constant thorn. Me: It was an explanation so vague that even Judy is left having to invent her own reasons. It was not something we could point to and say, I know where the new line is. Steve: And, what I am saying, which is what I've said before, I'm okay with that. I get that this lessons whatever marginal respect I might have had in some people's eyes. Me: I would never go that far Steve.I just think you are wrong about this. Steve: How bout this. Why don't you let loose with what you feel would get you banned, and see what happens? Me: Jesus H Christ Steve, you remind me of my older brother advising me to put a wire in an electric socket. Steve: But, here's the kicker. How bout stay true to the Curtis we all know here, and who most of us like and respect? Me: I am a bad example. First I don't roll with obvious targets in my writing here. I don't even like to spell out the F word. I don't like to cloud my point in things that give people an excuse to miss my real point. Second, Buck has to lay low until all this blows over or Rick makes a move. It would prove nothing now. Steve: Michael has indicated he's going to resuscitate his anti Bevan, anti MMY, anti JH, anti Brad O'Nash tirades. How boring will that be! But at least, MJ, in my opinion is not a twister of what people say. He is just a straight, down the line, TM, MMY basher. That is tolerable, IMO. Your writing and insights bring a lot to the place. You have some enemies here, but far more appreciate what you post. Anyway, got interrupted and lost my train of thought. Me: Back at you and thanks Steve. We are all just bozos on this bus. I like the place the way it was, YMMV. Send! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : excuse me for interrupting here, Curtis, but this is quite a distortion. Your issue is primarily with Judy, so come on, is this a martyr play of some sort? Me: My issue is with our new moderator. Judy is just a way to keep the discussion lively. S: most others here value your perspective, because, I found it to be pretty straightforward, and civil, and not a self proclaimed agenda to push peoples buttons. so, maybe you are using your standing here to compare yourself to Barry and in that way elevate his status some, but I sure as hell, ain't buying it. Me: I am not sure what you are getting at here. I am not comparing myself to Barry we had completely different focuses of attention here. But how you and I view me is not an issue. It is that if Buck gets it into his head that I have violated his subjective interpretation of vague rules, any of us can be ousted on a whim with zero transparency. And any cries of that is not fair for an individual you like more than Barry will be met the same accountability, none. I believe you are on the wrong side of this Steve, I really do. Steve:and may I also, say, it's quite an exaggeration trying to compare Doug's moderating to MMY's philosphy of management. . Me: We disagree here, I consider this textbook MMY. Steve:As was pointed out. Two trolls have been removed. Nothing more. Me: Calling them both the same name conflates their violations unfairly. And I don't trust your opinion to be the law here any
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mjackson74 can be moderator (A modest proposal)
Had to laugh - dunno how FFL could have 2 - I vote for going back to no
moderator status for the group - still can't believe Rick caved into Buck's
need to be some sort of controller.
From: jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 2:22 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: mjackson74 can be moderator (A modest proposal)
I think, mjackson74 should be made a moderator. He can be a
good counter-balance to Buck.
Is mjackson74 willing to be a moderator?
--- s3raphita@... wrote :
Re this new FFL regime where members are banned after posting offensive
messages. There's a division between those, like me, to whom an insult on a
topical website simply makes me shrug my shoulders - like water off a duck's
back, to mix my metaphors; and those to whom FFL is a spiritual site and
members should have a certain, minimum consideration of the feelings of those
they disagree with.
Here's the thing: there used to be a rule that those who posted too many
messages over a period would be banned from the site for a week or whatever.
Now that Buck has volunteered to be the site's censor why not allow him to ban
someone who is offensive for a week at a time (not permanently)? That way
anyone who persistently abused others would, as persistently, be banned from
posting to the site. Would that not be a reasonable compromise?
One difference from the rule when posters were ostracised for too many messages
is that that sanction was automatically triggered when the counter indicated
someone had got too fond of the sound of his own voice. Whether someone is
offensive is clearly a subjective judgement. Buck has taken on the role - isn't
he a true believer? So won't he come down hardest on those who take a more
sceptical view of TM and MMY? But setting aside that issue - Buck is the one
who volunteered to take on the role, and I wouldn't like the job! - wouldn't my
modest proposal be an acceptable solution?
--- salyavin808@... wrote :
It depends on what you mean by offensive.
I found Back for more really offensive for spending three days slagging off
Xeno for having the temerity to post a series of logic and reasonable arguments
against Buck's first putsch. I could have been all nicety-nice about it but
what's the point? If someone is so pathologically clueless they spend days
attacking someone in exactly the sort of way that they claim drove them away
from FFL in the first place they are going to be too self-centred to notice any
subtle inflexions that I could impart.
Personally I think behaviour like that ought to be self-moderating in that if I
was called on such rank hypocrisy I'd be too embarrassed to show my face here
for a month. But here they are already commenting on this very post with
another round of sneering, lying, goading and insulting. Some people are just
too full of themselves. Go figure
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
You are the one confused - I was addressing Sal and something he said - try to
see a mental health care professional to get treatment for your obsessive need
to correct everyone in the world.
Or get a session with Barry - oh how I wish he were here.
From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
Gimme a break. You were wondering what I was talking about. You were
confused. I unconfused you.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
i was talking to Sal not u
From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
You're a little confused. See my third paragraph below. All three of 'em are
doing it.
(I'm not talking about *sexual* harassment, BTW, just continued annoying dumb
attacks, typically gratuitous.)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I think she was accusing anartaxius of harassing her not you, or maybe I am
confused
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
You are a bit over the top in your reaction I think J, I don't think he's
harassing you, but that would be in the mind of the receiver of the comments
wouldn't it? Anartax certainly can't be accused of harassing TM'ers. He is
pretty balanced in most of his posts actually.
No. I'm not harassing anyone, I'm just calling them out on their hypocrisy. You
can't expect to launch a sneering pile-on and not get other people objecting if
they like the work of the poster.
Me harassing TMers would also be silly as I am one. I do like analysing the
cult of TM though, maybe that's what she means, but I never lose sleep over
that as the TM movement claims to be scientific and science actually proceeds
by criticism. If an idea is a bad explanation it won't stand up to scrutiny and
should be discarded. Easy to forget that. And it is what this place is for.
A healthy mind challenges its own assumptions etc...
From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
I do not say this. But sometimes it's obvious what state of mind a poster is in.
salyavin was just demanding that Ann quit what he called her dumb harassment
of Xeno. How about you quit your dumb harassment of me and other TM supporters?
Or is the idea to make up for Barry's absence by emulating his harassing
behavior? You, salyavin, and Curtis seem to be working pretty hard at it, if
not very coherently.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Ah. The master projector oracle speaks. I know, she says, exactly what everyone
is really thinking and why.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
Some of us wonder Judy what you do with your time when you are not reviling folks on FFL. From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug Oh, blow it out your I/O port, Curtis. I note that you don't mention the context of *my* post, because it's embarrassing to one of your compatriots in trying to make up in nastiness for Barry's absence. And you didn't complain when I quoted Barry's post to you without the accompanying quote from Doug last week. Obviously he'd taken exception to something Doug had said, and everybody knows Barry was hassling Doug about his David Lynch mistake. And both times I supplied the URL of Barry's post for folks who wanted to know the context. The only part that was *relevant* to my response to JamesAlan was that last paragraph. JamesAlan had claimed (as you know; it's quoted below) of Steve's post that Steve was saying I choose to believe and do whatever suits my desired ends. Fine for Barry (and everybody else) to scream at Doug about the David Lynch post. Doug was wrong, and apparently he knows it, because he never deleted the post. But there's a HUGE difference between talking back to the moderator and declaring you are going to ignore him no matter what he says. I know you're having to scramble for ammunition against me, Curtis, but you're gonna have to do better than this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : There is something slippery going on here. Judy, who is the first to make a stink about the context of a quote when it serves her own purposes has clipped out this paragraph of Barry's from the thread context, dishonestly making it look like Barry said this in a vacuum. The context was Buck continuing to make a case that criticizing David Lynch was a violation of the Yahoo guidelines. This quote was contained in a plea to Rick to remove an obviously highly biased moderator who was gunning to kick Barry off. (Which then actually happened.) Here is the more complete thread giving Buck's absurd accusations and Barry's response. To me it looks like a rational response to lunacy. I will put Buck's first so his apologists can take a crack at explaining how this is a reasonable position to take concerning calling David Lynch an idiot. BUCK: Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups.”“..and don't invade other people's privacy.”The dragging of someone in to an unrelated thread as a means to slur them using FFL, a yahoo-group..Whoa,for instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked with MaharishiMahesh Yogi quite a lot on the teaching of TM quite evidently for goodreasons and quite evidently Lynch knew well enough the scope of the'what for and why' he was there. Quite evidently Turqb here is activelytrying to slur and degrade DLynch personally by jumping in to thisthread with an unqualified non sequitur posting publicly using ['exploitative' ] a Yahoo-group [FFL]. Nowin a choice of moderation Turqb can go back in and delete this postingof his post haste and protect his membership status here or will this beleft to the FFL moderators to go in and do it? The choice is Turq's.-JaiGuruYou Barry: This has really become too sad to get involved with. Rick,please do something to help Doug -- like removing him from his positionas moderator. The responsibility and the genuine impossibility of thetask have clearly caused him to become mentally ill. It was entertaining for a while when he was just embarrassing himself. But now he's embarrassing the whole forum. Moderatoror not, Doug is now officially back on my Troll List. I will no longerbother to read anything he says or reply to anything he posts. Like ourrecently departed member, he no longer exists. By acting this crazy, hehas effectively -- and ironically -- deleted himself. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups.”“..and don't invade other people's privacy.”The dragging of someone in to an unrelated thread as a means to slur them using FFL, a yahoo-group..Whoa,for instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked with MaharishiMahesh Yogi quite a lot on the teaching of TM quite evidently for goodreasons and quite evidently Lynch knew well enough the scope of the'what for and why' he was there. Quite evidently Turqb here is activelytrying to slur and degrade DLynch personally by jumping in to thisthread with an unqualified non sequitur posting publicly using ['exploitative' ] a Yahoo-group [FFL]. Nowin a choice of moderation Turqb can go back in and delete this postingof his post haste and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
Maybe you should get her to do a reading for you.
From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
Ah. The master projector oracle speaks. I know, she says, exactly what
everyone is really thinking and why.
From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
I would certainly have to agree with you, xeno.
The question is how, or why do you respond to someone who, for a great majority
of the time, is just going for a reaction.
It is a total waste of time, for which I am guilty.
I agree that Barry was likely never upset when he posted.
I beg to differ with both of you. He was often incoherent with rage and
completely out of control when he posted after someone had dissected one of his
posts. You could count on it: he would very rarely respond directly to
criticism, but a day or so later, he'd come out with one of his long posts
attacking the critic on whatever grounds he could dream up.
All his bluster about folks being attached to the self was projection; he was
as attached as anybody and much more attached than some.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
Then lemme have a go at it. David Lynch is a lying hypocritical mentally screwed up individual who has made it his personal agenda to rook as many people as possible into getting on board with a meditation that has limited good effects and is backed by poor to dubious so-called science. His films are showcases of a sick mentality that seems to orient around the bizarre and around abuse of women. If you go by the TMO's standards of what kind of energy do we create, then Lynch is doing a great deal of harm in the world through the sick twisted energy his movies pump out, and doing harm through his promotion of a cult organization that falsely pretends to be a world savior. David Lynch is a screwball and any of the TMO leaders who don't like me saying so can bite me. From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug There is something slippery going on here. Judy, who is the first to make a stink about the context of a quote when it serves her own purposes has clipped out this paragraph of Barry's from the thread context, dishonestly making it look like Barry said this in a vacuum. The context was Buck continuing to make a case that criticizing David Lynch was a violation of the Yahoo guidelines. This quote was contained in a plea to Rick to remove an obviously highly biased moderator who was gunning to kick Barry off. (Which then actually happened.) Here is the more complete thread giving Buck's absurd accusations and Barry's response. To me it looks like a rational response to lunacy. I will put Buck's first so his apologists can take a crack at explaining how this is a reasonable position to take concerning calling David Lynch an idiot. BUCK: Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups.”“..and don't invade other people's privacy.”The dragging of someone in to an unrelated thread as a means to slur them using FFL, a yahoo-group..Whoa, for instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi quite a lot on the teaching of TM quite evidently for good reasons and quite evidently Lynch knew well enough the scope of the 'what for and why' he was there. Quite evidently Turqb here is actively trying to slur and degrade DLynch personally by jumping in to this thread with an unqualified non sequitur posting publicly using [ 'exploitative' ] a Yahoo-group [FFL]. Now in a choice of moderation Turqb can go back in and delete this posting of his post haste and protect his membership status here or will this be left to the FFL moderators to go in and do it? The choice is Turq's. -JaiGuruYou Barry: This has really become too sad to get involved with. Rick, please do something to help Doug -- like removing him from his position as moderator. The responsibility and the genuine impossibility of the task have clearly caused him to become mentally ill. It was entertaining for a while when he was just embarrassing himself. But now he's embarrassing the whole forum. Moderator or not, Doug is now officially back on my Troll List. I will no longer bother to read anything he says or reply to anything he posts. Like our recently departed member, he no longer exists. By acting this crazy, he has effectively -- and ironically -- deleted himself. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 9:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy Additionally, “Exploitative or degrading comments are not welcome in Groups.”“..and don't invade other people's privacy.”The dragging of someone in to an unrelated thread as a means to slur them using FFL, a yahoo-group..Whoa, for instance DLynch as a practitioner of TM worked with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi quite a lot on the teaching of TM quite evidently for good reasons and quite evidently Lynch knew well enough the scope of the 'what for and why' he was there. Quite evidently Turqb here is actively trying to slur and degrade DLynch personally by jumping in to this thread with an unqualified non sequitur posting publicly using [ 'exploitative' ] a Yahoo-group [FFL]. Now in a choice of moderation Turqb can go back in and delete this posting of his post haste and protect his membership status here or will this be left to the FFL moderators to go in and do it? The choice is Turq's. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote : The responses below are some of the least rational, internally most contradictory responses that I have come across here. How the writer (apparently) considers these to constitute even a remotely coherent argument (and fails to see his responses as a complete surrender of moral
[FairfieldLife] Flag stuff 2 [3 Attachments]
Again not that it matters, but here is the first original official Confederate Flag, the Stars and Bars. This was unsatisfactory because it looked too much like the American flag flown by the Union forces. So they changed it into the second one called the Stainless Banner which features a field of white, put there to symbolize the supremacy and superiority of the white race over the black race - this was the official flag from 1863-1865 - problem was when the wind didn't blow you could hardly see anything but white, so it looked like a white flag of surrender So it was followed briefly by the last one, the Blood Stained Banner, with a field of red symbolizing all them good Confederate boys what had bled and died.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
You are a bit over the top in your reaction I think J, I don't think he's
harassing you, but that would be in the mind of the receiver of the comments
wouldn't it? Anartax certainly can't be accused of harassing TM'ers. He is
pretty balanced in most of his posts actually.
From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
I do not say this. But sometimes it's obvious what state of mind a poster is in.
salyavin was just demanding that Ann quit what he called her dumb harassment
of Xeno. How about you quit your dumb harassment of me and other TM supporters?
Or is the idea to make up for Barry's absence by emulating his harassing
behavior? You, salyavin, and Curtis seem to be working pretty hard at it, if
not very coherently.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Ah. The master projector oracle speaks. I know, she says, exactly what everyone
is really thinking and why.
From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
I would certainly have to agree with you, xeno.
The question is how, or why do you respond to someone who, for a great majority
of the time, is just going for a reaction.
It is a total waste of time, for which I am guilty.
I agree that Barry was likely never upset when he posted.
I beg to differ with both of you. He was often incoherent with rage and
completely out of control when he posted after someone had dissected one of his
posts. You could count on it: he would very rarely respond directly to
criticism, but a day or so later, he'd come out with one of his long posts
attacking the critic on whatever grounds he could dream up.
All his bluster about folks being attached to the self was projection; he was
as attached as anybody and much more attached than some.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Shankarananda
You are f-ing hilarious!
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Swami Shankarananda
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
How bout them gurus!?!
Amazing. Are there any untarnished by dubious allegations?
What this guy did in shagging all them babes using the excuse of getting them
quicker enlightenment would cause me anguish if I was on a jury. Part of me
would say; well what did you expect? Another part would say; besides, you
didn't have to sleep with him, it was only your own greed that got you into
bed. Maybe it's a good lesson to learn that laying the guru doesn't get you to
the peak as soon as you'd like? Maybe they should be fined for excessive
gullibility.
And part of me would want to throw the old pervert in jail. I think it's about
time the teachers in spiritual world started having to wear warning labels...
This bit had me puzzled though:
“But the sad reality is that nearly all the male devotees of Shiva Yoga were
treated like dogs.”
You mean, taken for two long walks a day, comfy bed by the radiator, endless
toys brought by friends and admirers, one hand-prepared meal in the evening,
regular free grooming and massage and your body weight in biscuits for no
reason other than you ask for them?
Sounds OK to me
Hearts breaking at the ashram
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[FairfieldLife] Flag stuff [1 Attachment]
Not that it matters, but I wonder what the flag protestors would say if all the southern states currently flying the old Confederate battle flag were to swap them out for what was the official Confederate States flag, the Stars and Bars as they apparently did in one Baton Rouge court house? Different Confederate flag flies across Baton Rouge public spaces; weigh in on issue in our poll | | | | | | | | | | | Different Confederate flag flies across Baton Rouge publ...The Confederate flag flies high next to a number of governmental buildings across Baton Rouge: the federal courthouse on Florida Boulevard, the State Archives on... | | | | View on theadvocate.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
Ahhh, the dulcet, mellifluous tones of a Judy post. How refreshing compared to
the rest of the plebeians, and how sattvic!
From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
It's none of your business what I'm doing these days. But I'll be back at
it very shortly. I've just been taking a break here.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Some of us wonder Judy what you do with your time when you are not reviling
folks on FFL.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
i was talking to Sal not u
From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
You're a little confused. See my third paragraph below. All three of 'em
are doing it.
(I'm not talking about *sexual* harassment, BTW, just continued annoying dumb
attacks, typically gratuitous.)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I think she was accusing anartaxius of harassing her not you, or maybe I am
confused
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
You are a bit over the top in your reaction I think J, I don't think he's
harassing you, but that would be in the mind of the receiver of the comments
wouldn't it? Anartax certainly can't be accused of harassing TM'ers. He is
pretty balanced in most of his posts actually.
No. I'm not harassing anyone, I'm just calling them out on their hypocrisy. You
can't expect to launch a sneering pile-on and not get other people objecting if
they like the work of the poster.
Me harassing TMers would also be silly as I am one. I do like analysing the
cult of TM though, maybe that's what she means, but I never lose sleep over
that as the TM movement claims to be scientific and science actually proceeds
by criticism. If an idea is a bad explanation it won't stand up to scrutiny and
should be discarded. Easy to forget that. And it is what this place is for.
A healthy mind challenges its own assumptions etc...
From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
I do not say this. But sometimes it's obvious what state of mind a poster is in.
salyavin was just demanding that Ann quit what he called her dumb harassment
of Xeno. How about you quit your dumb harassment of me and other TM supporters?
Or is the idea to make up for Barry's absence by emulating his harassing
behavior? You, salyavin, and Curtis seem to be working pretty hard at it, if
not very coherently.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Ah. The master projector oracle speaks. I know, she says, exactly what everyone
is really thinking and why.
From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
I would certainly have to agree with you, xeno.
The question is how, or why do you respond to someone who, for a great majority
of the time, is just going for a reaction.
It is a total waste of time, for which I am guilty.
I agree that Barry was likely never upset when he posted.
I beg to differ with both of you. He was often incoherent with rage and
completely out of control when he posted after someone had dissected one of his
posts. You could count on it: he would very rarely respond directly to
criticism, but a day or so later, he'd come out with one of his long posts
attacking the critic on whatever grounds he could dream up.
All his bluster about folks being attached to the self was projection; he was
as attached as anybody and much more attached than some.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
I think she was accusing anartaxius of harassing her not you, or maybe I am
confused
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
You are a bit over the top in your reaction I think J, I don't think he's
harassing you, but that would be in the mind of the receiver of the comments
wouldn't it? Anartax certainly can't be accused of harassing TM'ers. He is
pretty balanced in most of his posts actually.
No. I'm not harassing anyone, I'm just calling them out on their hypocrisy. You
can't expect to launch a sneering pile-on and not get other people objecting if
they like the work of the poster.
Me harassing TMers would also be silly as I am one. I do like analysing the
cult of TM though, maybe that's what she means, but I never lose sleep over
that as the TM movement claims to be scientific and science actually proceeds
by criticism. If an idea is a bad explanation it won't stand up to scrutiny and
should be discarded. Easy to forget that. And it is what this place is for.
A healthy mind challenges its own assumptions etc...
From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
I do not say this. But sometimes it's obvious what state of mind a poster is in.
salyavin was just demanding that Ann quit what he called her dumb harassment
of Xeno. How about you quit your dumb harassment of me and other TM supporters?
Or is the idea to make up for Barry's absence by emulating his harassing
behavior? You, salyavin, and Curtis seem to be working pretty hard at it, if
not very coherently.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Ah. The master projector oracle speaks. I know, she says, exactly what everyone
is really thinking and why.
From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
I would certainly have to agree with you, xeno.
The question is how, or why do you respond to someone who, for a great majority
of the time, is just going for a reaction.
It is a total waste of time, for which I am guilty.
I agree that Barry was likely never upset when he posted.
I beg to differ with both of you. He was often incoherent with rage and
completely out of control when he posted after someone had dissected one of his
posts. You could count on it: he would very rarely respond directly to
criticism, but a day or so later, he'd come out with one of his long posts
attacking the critic on whatever grounds he could dream up.
All his bluster about folks being attached to the self was projection; he was
as attached as anybody and much more attached than some.
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[FairfieldLife] Gun Control
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Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug
SO crazy Ravi is back, and Doug still won't say why he banned Barry - Funny Farm indeed. From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:30 PM Subject: Re: And talk about Turq's personality too Re: [FairfieldLife] Time to come clean Doug As Ravi demonstrates, another aspect of the whole banning people thing is that by having originally configured the group for anonymous posting, there's really not much Rick and the mods can do if a banned person insists on posting here. Ravi just posted as rc_racy, but when he was finished posting, he changed the nickname to something else, and there's no way to identify him in the subscriber list. And, once a group is configured for anonymous posting, it can't be changed back. To even attempt to boot Ravi, a mod would literally have to sit and watch the email traffic arrive in real time and immediately search the subscriber list for Ravi's current posting nickname as soon as one of his posts came in. Every time Ravi posts, I just laugh at the absurdity of the whole situation. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis - you really need to stop this malice and deception please. I don't have the time or energy or the inclination to post here and re-hash old issues from 4 years back. The fact of the matter is Ravi didn't cause you any personal harm nor did I cause this international conspiracy of flooding the search engines, how hilarious and preposterous. You got a taste of your own medicine and a taste of what your pal dishes out to everyone else - gratuitous, egregious barrage of insults. Please move on Curtis - stop your poor me routine. Same goes for the likes of Xeno and empty bill, stop these personal attacks on me. Otherwise I agree with you. Doug's not the moderator I would have, he has been a TM cult enabler, an unoriginal, uninteresting poster who spammed the list repeatedly over the years. But that doesn't disqualify him from being a moderator but I would be concerned if his moderatorship results in stopping the freedom of expression FFL is renowned for. You are right in questioning his motivations in banning Barry, he just needs to state clearly why he has banned Barry that's all. As a former poster I'm glad to see Barry go, Edg's impassioned posts demonstrate why Barry has been such a toxic influence here and you Curtis have been one of his greatest enablers here, and you should be ashamed for that. Ravi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Edg, I was not in Barry's crosshairs and you were. I never viewed you through his eyes. You and I became friends on our own as we sized each other up as good people. So I am not judging you for your opinion of him nor him for his opinion of you. That is between you two guys and is none of my business. I always deal one on one and make up my own mind on people here. If I was Barry's target I would probably feel as you do. But I would just tune him out like I did others who went after me or find a way to interact that suited my writing interests. And I might write as you have dancing on his grave a bit. I get the appeal and I always enjoy reading you whatever the topic. But the bigger issue for me isn't Barry, it is an environment I have valued for a place to exercise free thought. It has been hijacked by someone who not only does not value free expression, he has acted against it. I know you felt the chill when he went after that Lynch comment as an actionable offense. If we want to understand what freedom of speech is all about, defend it for someone whose views we disagree with. I used to argue against banning Ravi for raving here until he crossed over a clear line of personal harm. I thought he deserved to be able to post because I didn't want anyone making that kind of content judgement calls on anyone here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I would be willing to give Turq an offer to post ONCE more.cuz it'd be great to see how hard he'd cram everything into it. Hilarious, right? I tried hard as hell to like Turq, because: Curtis. I'd do numbers on my head about Turq's a good writer, posts some newsy stuff, gives some headsup on films like that like that, because Curtis is smarter than any two of us here and he was okay with Turq, so I had to re-think this issue many times, but every single time I posted something -- even if it was neutral-ish and not turq-ish related and not even true-believer-ish -- BAM this dick would go out of his way to somehow find something with which to, once again as he did for so many here, deride me, the person, instead of trying to uplift with countering and educating debate points. Turq was a hunting sniper here -- shooting to crush anyone's spirit and ruin their fucking day with a major
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT THE HELL? (Great Beyond Dispatch #2)
Ha ha! Maybe I will.
From: jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 2:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT THE HELL? (Great Beyond Dispatch #2)
You know Xeno, about 14 years ago 'Uncle Tantra' was like a
giant to me, battling the TM-mov't and other cults. As all
three of us are basically on the same page philosophically,
I did learn a lot from him.
But, as years of interaction showed he is not as perfect as
I thought him to be. I guess we all are human. But, it's a
fact that I learnt quite a number of valuable things from
him.
What I tried to explain is that his reaction when I was
bounced, was almost brazen and callous. Some of his
critiques about the TM-mov't a decade ago were well written
and should be read by the people on the highest level in the
mov't. It seemed, he began to slowly deterioriate mentally
as years rolled by.
Time is time, it eventually catches you, and you are
history.
By the way, don't you think MJ should start the_abyss
group. The peak can be the north pole. The FairfieldLife
the equator, and 'the abyss' the south pole.
--- anartaxius@... wrote :
Senility just means life is getting mellower. While it is true authfriend would
root out various kinds of errors in what people wrote, she often did not see
the forest for the trees, and did not expound much on what she actually knew
about the subjects she was criticising were discussing. It was all dissection
and no integration. If you go over Turq's posts for the last 10 years, you will
find he also could provide clarity. Both Turq and authfriend tried made people
look like idiots, and possibly some us were and still are.
--- jason_green2@... wrote :
Hey Xeno, it's me, moi, the old jedi_spock. Rick bounced me
along with 'Dan firedman'.
I never got yahoo to interfere in the freedom of speech
here. It was Dan who did it. Rick didn't give me an
opportunity to explain my POV. A few days later Rick kindly
reinstated me. Thanks to Curtis who put in a good word to
Rick.
Looks like you too are becoming senile like Barry. It's
these kind of errors that irritated authfriend.
Tell you what, you and me, along with Salyavin, MJ, Curtis
move over to the abyss. Let 'the abyss' be the mirror of
fairfieldlife.
Hell, I wish someone like gullible fool comes back and
takes over the moderatership from Buck.
Barry's posts were never designed to give people clarity.
Barry's posts were designed to hurt people at the tender
feeling level and make them look like idiots. There was a
sadistic streak in his posts that befuddled people.
--- anartaxius@... wrote :
No, he doesn't appear to be a psychopath. If anything, I am closer to being one
than him. His career path, and the people he lives with probably would not have
worked out that way if he were a psychopath. Psychopaths tend to be
ingratiating, they have an ability to make you like them. Turq does not seem to
have that ability to create a fake, loving façade that will fool most people,
if anything, he is the opposite, an acquired taste that many here cannot
stomach. You were trying to get Yahoo to interfere with freedom of speech here,
and Rick did not care for such a threat. But now of course, freedom of speech
is curtailed, just in another direction, a bit more in the direction of
insanty, as he gave moderation to the one here most infected with religion.
Religious people tend not to enjoy free speech when it comes to their sacred
cows. I think all people who believe in a religion are insane, so apparently
you would fall into that category. But it is a limited insanity. For example,
you might know how to make a good cup of coffee, and know precisely how to
proceed to accomplish that and have other skills. But the human mind comes to a
strange disconnect when it comes to religious beliefs. It is felt they must be
protected and that somehow they are different from other beliefs. But all
beliefs have one characteristic, they are a pretence to knowledge which one
does not really have, and religious beliefs tend to be programmed into the mind
at an early age where the mind is very plastic and vulnerable and gullible. It
is a form of conditioning that results in a mechanical response to certain
kinds of input later in life. A spiritual life is one in which those
conditioned beliefs are unwound and are replaced by something you would never
in a million years expect.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT THE HELL? (Great Beyond Dispatch #2)
Reading your post about the warning signs soon after beginning TM - can you believe that when I first started I was so stupid I really believed that all the local TM teachers were enlightened??? From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT THE HELL? (Great Beyond Dispatch #2) None of us are perfect, and there does seem to be a narrowing of one's focus on certain things as we move into older age. I wasn't on FFL in the early days, but sniping back and forth did seem to be increasing, it's basically a lower brain function. Maharishi seemed to be in much better form when he was younger too. Each conversation has two sides. I cannot see that those that opposed Turq so vociferously here really acted much better or more intelligently. I cannot see that the Peak with its absurd discussions of crop circles etc., is a Peak of intelligence. The goal, if you will, is to have the extremes of existence all functioning within that existence, not as separated things. So FFL is still the best bet to find a decent conversation, but there is a dark cloud of suppression overhead at the moment, and so far it has been what seems to be personally selective. It is the ideas and what you can learn from them, or make out of them, not the people that propose them that I find interesting. What you do not like, skip over or delete (if you interact by email). Perhaps all of us have had an idol that did not live up to the image we pretended to ourselves that they were. In the movement, even shortly after one started to get involved with TM, there were strange warning signs something was amiss, and we would ignore it. The main problem is human beings are never ever really a match for the ideals they create. Still, we can sometimes extract value out of a much-less-than-what-we-would-consider-ideal situation. From: jason_gre...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 6:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHAT THE HELL? (Great Beyond Dispatch #2) You know Xeno, about 14 years ago 'Uncle Tantra' was like a giant to me, battling the TM-mov't and other cults. As all three of us are basically on the same page philosophically, I did learn a lot from him. But, as years of interaction showed he is not as perfect as I thought him to be. I guess we all are human. But, it's a fact that I learnt quite a number of valuable things from him. What I tried to explain is that his reaction when I was bounced, was almost brazen and callous. Some of his critiques about the TM-mov't a decade ago were well written and should be read by the people on the highest level in the mov't. It seemed, he began to slowly deterioriate mentally as years rolled by. Time is time, it eventually catches you, and you are history. By the way, don't you think MJ should start the_abyss group. The peak can be the north pole. The FairfieldLife the equator, and 'the abyss' the south pole. --- anartaxius@... wrote : Senility just means life is getting mellower. While it is true authfriend would root out various kinds of errors in what people wrote, she often did not see the forest for the trees, and did not expound much on what she actually knew about the subjects she was criticising were discussing. It was all dissection and no integration. If you go over Turq's posts for the last 10 years, you will find he also could provide clarity. Both Turq and authfriend tried made people look like idiots, and possibly some us were and still are. --- jason_green2@... wrote : Hey Xeno, it's me, moi, the old jedi_spock. Rick bounced me along with 'Dan firedman'. I never got yahoo to interfere in the freedom of speech here. It was Dan who did it. Rick didn't give me an opportunity to explain my POV. A few days later Rick kindly reinstated me. Thanks to Curtis who put in a good word to Rick. Looks like you too are becoming senile like Barry. It's these kind of errors that irritated authfriend. Tell you what, you and me, along with Salyavin, MJ, Curtis move over to the abyss. Let 'the abyss' be the mirror of fairfieldlife. Hell, I wish someone like gullible fool comes back and takes over the moderatership from Buck. Barry's posts were never designed to give people clarity. Barry's posts were designed to hurt people at the tender feeling level and make them look like idiots. There was a sadistic streak in his posts that befuddled people. --- anartaxius@... wrote : No, he doesn't appear to be a psychopath. If anything, I am closer to being one than him. His career path, and the people he lives with probably would not have worked out that way if he were a psychopath. Psychopaths tend to be ingratiating, they
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The '93-'94 Survey of Meditating Fairfield
Interesting - if TM works then how the hell can all these issues exist in FF?!?!?!? Get a clue Dougy, TM makes you feel nice while you got your eyes closed, it don't do shit to improve quality of life in ANY community. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 7:15 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The '93-'94 Survey of Meditating Fairfield Summary of responses to.. ESSAYQUESTIONS Ofthe 659 people who completed a survey, 548 wrote answers to the essayquestions. Many people wrote multiple pages of comments andsuggestions; one individual sent in 12 typed pages. We are committedto making available an unedited compilation of all essay responses,and we need volunteers to help us complete this project. Please call472-7033 if you can help. Becausewe do not yet have an unedited compilation of the essay questions,volunteers read the surveys and categorized all answers. From thesecategories, they identified comments more commonly given. (Therefore,not every comment is listed here.) We have provided these comments inthis section. The summary to the essay questions necessarily involved a subjectiveevaluation. While the comments in this summary were commonlymentioned, it is difficult to determine whether they reflect amajority opinion or even a significant minority. They simply reflectthe more common essay responses as interpreted by the volunteers whoread them. 25.My comments and recommendations regarding economic issues inFairfield are:• Concern about limited jobopportunities.• Need for affordable housing.• Products and programs tooexpensive.• Fairfield residents should getdiscounts on all products and programs.• Monies generated in thiscommunity should stay here.• Concern about prevalence ofpoverty consciousness. 37.My comments and recommendations regarding social and family concernsare:• Need for more ethical conduct(most often mentioned were adultery and divorce).• Strengthening family life (mostoften mentioned were neglect of children, weak parenting skills, andlack of recognition of the value of counseling).• Resentment of classism, elitism.• Need for less arrogance towardlocal residents.• Complaints about fatigue; no timefor social activities, feeling of lack of balanced life, etc. 47.To make Fairfield a more attractive place to raise a family, I wouldlike:• More parental involvement inafter-school activities, dances, teenage clubs, etc.• Fairfield is a wonderful place toraise children. Desire for more interaction between MSAE, MIU, andpublic schools. Desire for ice-skating rink, bike paths, etc.• MSAE: less emphasis on Sanskrit;more on Western traditional academics. Need for more openness andcreativity; need to deal with drugs, alcohol, and sex education.• Better pay for teachers.• Movement should subsidize poorerparents so all kids can attend MSAE. 5975.My comments and recommendations regarding TM or TM-Sidhi programs andto improve superradianceare:• Treat participants with trust andrespect.• Need experience meetingsregularly.• It’s perfect just the way itis. Just keep on the program.• Movement recommending programsfor evolution, such as Jyotish, Ayurveda products, yagyas, etc., thenpricing them out of reach of the average Fairfielder.• More flexibility to come in andout of Domes, especially for parents.• Freedom from blacklisting forparticipating in personal growth programs.• Ease the dress codes, especiallyin the Domes.• Do away with reserved spaces inthe Dome.• Too many sales pitches and hypeon courses.• Bathroom access, especially inmen’s Dome. 107.My comments and recommendations to improve TM Movement relations are:• Need for more openness:• Foster non-judgmental attitudes.• Administration should exemplifyin its actions what the Movement preaches.• Eliminate elitism andexclusivity.• People in authority alienate andsometimes offend with arrogance and lack of heart. • Eliminate secrecy and fear.• Administrative • Hire administrators withreal-world experience.• Need for fiscal accountability.• Hold administrators accountable(some suggested elections)• Dissatisfaction with BevanMorris.• Run the Movement withcontemporary American business standards and practices.• Fairfield community deserves tobe rewarded with discounts across the board on all Movement courses,products, and services.• Reduce Movement hyperbole.• Get out of the hotel business andmake Fairfield the focal point.• More and direct contact betweenMaharishi and the Fairfield meditating community.• A concern that the Movement isdying. 108.My major concerns, in order of priority, are:• Money: price of Movement productsand services, economic opportunities, and affordable housing.• Attitude: need for tolerance,love, openness, fairness, harmony, respect, togetherness, and freedomfrom fear.• Movement Administration• Dissatisfaction with quality ofcontact with the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
And I notice that Dougy is still not responding to Curtis' request for an
explanation to Turq's getting the boot - ignoring what needs to be addressed
and blabbering about a bunch of other stuff is spot on TMO behavior.
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:53 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
This is not a place for someone who has a stated agenda to prove his point that
an organization is a cult, and to label anyone who may defend the organization
as cult apologist.
According to the spiel on the Fairfield Life home page, this is the perfect
place to discuss whether the TM Org is a cult. If what you say is true, then
you feel this place has a stated agenda to prove the point that the TM Org is
not a cult. This is a blatant statement showing you wish to suppress opposing
points of view, as do many others here. Remember the first quotation on that
page:
What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is
the exact opposite. ~ Bertrand Russell
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Lincoln Gergar: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/23/2015
Spot on Duveyoung!
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Lincoln Gergar: New Interview on Buddha at the
Gas Pump - 06/23/2015
Alright Ricky! You nailed meI didn't listen to the interview. Your
explanation seems a whole lot better than channeling of an entity.
So, let's ask ya: do you believe he dwells 24/7 at that level of
ritam and is truly coming out with perfect expressions of the divine -- like,
say, Totakacharya coming up the hill singing new sutras that were instantly
validating of themselves due to their strict adherence to the rules of Vedic
poetry?.pronunciation, meter, vocabetc?
I would doubt you'd say he was that refined, but maybe you would.
Seems to me it's easy to pretend all this shit. And if a person practices at
it, well, sure, it gets honed into an art form, and that just makes it harder
to reveal the fakery.
Me for instance -- the typical person on the street would think I really really
knew about eastern philosophy, since I could talk non-stop for hours without
repetitions. Where's the worth in that? A channeler who has practiced the art
can easily fool almost anyone -- like a magician does coin tricks.
Show me one channeler who says, Go twenty paces into the woods north of the
dome, did ten feet down and you'll find a rabbit shaped golden ornament with a
carbon dating of 60,000 years ago.
Like that. Like godamned that. Give me some proof. Predict ONE THING. Find
someone's lost car keys for Christ's sake. I'll take anything.
Your interviews are so lacking in this kind of push-back. Not that nice people
chatting isn't funzies.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :
Actually, if you had listened to the interview, he doesn’t claim to be
channeling an individual entity, unlike a few others I’ve interviewed (see
https://batgap.com/past-interviews/categorical-index-guests/). He just settles
into universal consciousness and then speaks from that state. In TM-speak,
ritam bhara pragya. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:38 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lincoln Gergar: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas
Pump - 06/23/2015 Yeah, I agree. Rick's scraping the bottom of the barrel.
I shudda been a channeler -- perfect job for a bullshit artist with a penchant
for flowery writing -- I could do this with my toes on an old Royal typewriter.
Of course, lying to people's faces directly...this is the hard part. I'm now
Ramtha! -- how do you keep a straight face?
I mean, really. ...shit.
On the other hand, my jury's still out about astral existence...could be the
human nervous system is so good a foolery because it is exquisitely able to
conjure up any concoction and run with it. Who didn't play cowboys and indians
and feel like they were nailing the role, eh?
Or, if after life existence does exist, then yeah, maybe a human nervous system
of almost perfect quiescence could pick up on the mental broadcasts of some
giant brain out there... but gawd this is making me puke to even type it
out.
In today's modernity with 50,000 industrial chemicals in the environment, with
hatred saturating the headlines, with every religion having a very black stain
of certainty, who in the fuck are we kidding that anyone could get as subtle as
channeling would actually require? Our nervous systems ARE JANGLING CONSTANTLY.
And it's Kali Yuga baby -- GOD WANTS TO SEE HOW IT ALL GOES BOOM.
I never read any channeled report that gave anyone any inside information that
couldn't have been simply made up out of whole cloth. SCIENCE, people,
SCIENCEchanneling is so easily tested for validity. #yiv3000770658
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug
Oh God what a great post! I appreciate the history, I was unaware of the extent of Buck's complaints before my arrival and am surprised but not surprised that he did a 180 after being reinstated to the extent of calling non-Domers neganauts etc. I did get an inkling when I bought and read Joe Weber's excellent book TM in America which featured Doug in a one chapter and how he was kicked around by the TMO. The Ring analogy is excellent and spot on - I never thought of it before, but the idea of TM and Dome attendance being the salvation of the world, and Doug by participation a savior under the wings of Saint Marshy seems to be Doug's Precious. He may in fact be winning as I have begun to mull over the idea of starting my own group, but it won't be on yahoo, which I hate. From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug Thanks for keeping the thread alive Michael. We have a fascinating power dynamic in play here that students of cult bullshittery like us can have some fun dissecting. Buck/Doug felt abused by the TM group when they yanked his badge for not following their rules about seeing other saints. This was before your posting period but his group spamming back then was all about the unfairness and lack of transparency in the TM group. Post after post on how badly he was treated. He finally wore them down and got back in the dome. From that moment he began the routine of glorifying the dome and castigating the quitters using every weird term for someone who does not go along with the group think. His lowest point was invoking the Maoist term running dog in his contempt for nonbelivers. As you are well aware he has used the images of drone strikes to silence critics like yourself. I don't know when the Buck persona arose. At first it seemed to be a parody of movement rigidity but then it became clear that Buck IS Doug and that the artifice was a dodge to be personally accountable for his actual intolerant views. With such a huge target of hypocrisy to shoot at, Barry posted a number of posts that Buck did not like. So became the gollum-esque campaign for Buck to have his precious the right to silence an outspoken critic and not be held accountable for it. He wore Rick down and got his one ring to rule them all. First he tried to make it appear as if there was a justification for removing his enemy by contriving a fey interpretation of the guidelines and pinning it on an idiotic example, criticism of Lynch. This was a classic new-to-power rookie mistake. In his eagerness to assert his personal agenda he miscalculated how transparent his agenda would be if he used an obviously bogus excuse. So backing off of that he switched to a lie, that Rick was the driving force and he was just a servant. Anyone can verify this was a deliberate lie with an email to the list owner. I did, and it turned out to be a fabrication. The abused is now the abuser. Because Barry made some enemies here, people are going along as if nothing happened. It is a classic case of people's values being exposed about what is right and wrong because of their personal self interest and petty vendettas. So here we all are back in the movement. Maharishi is too busy to micro-manage a course so a leader arises using lots of poetic bullshittery to make it seem as if they are speaking for their master. He was carrying a secret wound of when the leader had been abused by the movement's authoritarian policies, Then the leader carries out his personal revenge vendetta against people he does not like to get them kicked off the course. And the people who didn't like the person look the other way and say,let's move along and not be negative. And the people who have seen this all before and know where it leads stand up and speak out. Then one of two things happen. Maharishi visits the course and kicks out the power-grabbing guru wanna-be for abusing his power, or the other voices get quelled one by one. Time will tell. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And I notice that Dougy is still not responding to Curtis' request for an explanation to Turq's getting the boot - ignoring what needs to be addressed and blabbering about a bunch of other stuff is spot on TMO behavior. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Time to come clean Doug ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : This is not a place for someone who has a stated agenda to prove his point that an organization is a cult, and to label anyone who may defend the organization as cult apologist. According to the spiel on the Fairfield Life home page
To Rick - Re: [FairfieldLife] Lincoln Gergar: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/23/2015
I did listen and I can assure you having been a channel and having known more
than a few other channels, he is simply creating a riff on the standard I am
the archangel Gabriel or I channel Mother Mary.
Its the same stuff, to appeal to a certain audience. I admit, having done it
for so long, I am not too impressed or perhaps one could say jaded with the
entire schtick.
I mean no unkindness to you or Mr. Gergar, but its all feel good stuff that is
ultimately of little value from most channels. There are times when someone
will bring through something of clearly substantive value, but most of the
time the person receiving the channeling will be happy with it because of the
energy they feel during the session, which colors their perception of what they
receive.
In some instances, it is the energy itself they seek, and so its all hunky
dory. And there are some who would say that if the energy feels good, what's to
complain about?
My answer is that for the majority of channels, they want an audience, a paying
audience mind you. Nothing wrong with making a living, but the people keep
coming back and paying money to listen to generalized new age (and sometimes
tailored to a specific audience like former TM'ers or other meditation groups)
that is of little real value, but they keep coming back and paying because they
feel energy during the session and like guru followers who feel energy in the
presence of the guru, they think the guru is enlightened, therefore whatever
guru says no matter how bizarre must be real and true.
Those participating in the channelings feel energy and assume in the same
fashion the guy or gal must be channeling legitimately and the blabber is or
will one day be substantive.
Unfortunately many participate because they feel inside they don't know as much
are have as much as someone they think has it together.
Rick, I've been involved in channeling for nearly 30 years. I know what I am
talking about. I went to this guy's web site and listened to a few of his
channelings. He's no different than any of the rest. He is offering a lot of
New Age blabber. And he isn't the only one who claims to just be channeling the
higher self, he is just marketing a bit better than some.
From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Lincoln Gergar: New Interview on Buddha at the
Gas Pump - 06/23/2015
Actually, if you had listened to the interview, he doesn’t claim to be
channeling an individual entity, unlike a few others I’ve interviewed (see
https://batgap.com/past-interviews/categorical-index-guests/). He just settles
into universal consciousness and then speaks from that state. In TM-speak,
ritam bhara pragya.
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Duveyoung
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:38 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lincoln Gergar: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas
Pump - 06/23/2015 Yeah, I agree. Rick's scraping the bottom of the barrel.
I shudda been a channeler -- perfect job for a bullshit artist with a penchant
for flowery writing -- I could do this with my toes on an old Royal typewriter.
Of course, lying to people's faces directly...this is the hard part. I'm now
Ramtha! -- how do you keep a straight face?
I mean, really. ...shit.
On the other hand, my jury's still out about astral existence...could be the
human nervous system is so good a foolery because it is exquisitely able to
conjure up any concoction and run with it. Who didn't play cowboys and indians
and feel like they were nailing the role, eh?
Or, if after life existence does exist, then yeah, maybe a human nervous system
of almost perfect quiescence could pick up on the mental broadcasts of some
giant brain out there... but gawd this is making me puke to even type it
out.
In today's modernity with 50,000 industrial chemicals in the environment, with
hatred saturating the headlines, with every religion having a very black stain
of certainty, who in the fuck are we kidding that anyone could get as subtle as
channeling would actually require? Our nervous systems ARE JANGLING CONSTANTLY.
And it's Kali Yuga baby -- GOD WANTS TO SEE HOW IT ALL GOES BOOM.
I never read any channeled report that gave anyone any inside information that
couldn't have been simply made up out of whole cloth. SCIENCE, people,
SCIENCEchanneling is so easily tested for validity. #yiv8732175935
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chilly news from across the pond
P'raps you might have a yagya done for protection from stinging flies?
Did you or your ancestors insult the stinging fly deva in some past existence?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chilly news from across the pond
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Let's see how Sal does as an eskimo.
I wonder how long it will take for us to notice the difference?
Having said that, the sun put in a joyous appearance yesterday so I went for
the summers walk I'd been looking forward to this whole long, cold and
tediously grey winter. And promptly got attacked by swarms of horse flies. The
little bastards bite stings like you wouldn't believe. And I got sunburnt.
Roll on October, or the ice age
http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/586404/Britain-freezing-winters-slump-solar-activity
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The south aint gonna rise again...
Now that Judy has had a go at pretending to know something about it, Here is the real deal on the Confederate flag, at least in SC. It was put up over the Statehouse (where all the laws are made) in 1961 as part of the Centennial Celebration of the Civil War. That is when it was first flown Judy, the state legislature officially confirmed it a year later in 1962. There is a man still alive here in SC who was on the Centennial planning committee who said it was put up by a legislative resolution that specified what date it was to be raised, but no date was included for taking it down. After the Centennial celebration was finished no one paid much attention and it just stated up. It should be noted that the legislature was all white at that time. In retrospect critics claim the real reason the flag was flown was a way for white segregationists in the state legislature to mock the federal government which was in the process of creating civil rights legislation. If that was not the original reason, it surely became so as the 1970's blacks began to be elected to the state legislature. But, eventually those black politicians did what their white counterparts were already doing, and that was using the flag for their own ends. The white lawmakers would bow their backs when people would call for the flag removal and do so to curry favor with their redneck constituents, the black lawmakers did the same thing, calling for the flag removal to get points with their constituents. This went on till the 1990's when the NAACP called for the flag removal or else they would institute an economic boycott.The white lawmakers particularly the really ignorant ones like Jakie Knotts and the real crooks like Glenn McConnell laughed it off and said the boycott would have no effect on the state. They were wrong - people all over the place who had made plans to visit SC for various reasons began to cancel their plans conventions were canceled and the tourist industry began to really suffer. The merchants and businessmen began to scream at the lawmakers to take the flag down, especially those in the hotel/motel and restaurant industry. The idiot lawmakers ignored them, till they started to get threats of being unseated in their nest bid for reelection for not taking it down. Belatedly big institutions that SHOULD have already called for the flag's removal finally joined in like the University of South Carolina. The debate raged and the lawmakers showed their true colors - yellow. A proposal was made to leave it to the people by creating a referendum in the next general election. BOTH sides were running scared of such a solution. The black and white lawmakers claimed it was too important a decision to leave to the people and that it would be too divisive for the people to decide and might make folks mad at each other. The truth is the flag opponents were running scared that all the rednecks would come out in great numbers and vote the keep the flag flying high, and the flag supporters were afraid all the black voters and their white liberal supporters would outnumber the heritage crowd. So they blabbered at each other for a while and then came up with a compromise that made no one happy. They removed the flag from over the State House dome, but placed it in a place of honor on the Statehouse grounds. The opponents were incensed and so were the supporters that it had been removed at all. Thus it stands today. Coming from such stock, (there is a few years old picture of my mother's family reunion where the young children were detailed to hold the edges of a really big Confederate battle flag as all the adults stood in the background as the pic was taken) I know that a lot of Southern folk think the flag stands for Southern heritage and not hate. Dunno exactly what that heritage is supposed to be - generally if you ask it goes back to the idea of honoring all the brave men who stood up to Northern aggression, you know, the damn Yankees? Truth be told, a lot of those Confederates were idiots. Only about 10% of white Southerners owned slaves, and nearly half of the white population of the South served in the war. That means that the majority of the Confederate soldiers were dirt farmers who's direct competition were the slave owning plantation big shots. The dirt farmers were fighting to preserve an agricultural system that kept them in poverty. But the bottom line is that no matter how poor and low-down someone is, they always feel better if they have someone to look down on, so the dirt farmers always had the slaves to feel superior to. For that, they were willing to die. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The south aint gonna rise again... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Scapegoating? Yes, remove that flag. Removing it now
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lincoln Gergar: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/23/2015
Holy Crap! From enlightened (so called) people to channels! What next?
From: 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: 'FairfieldLife' FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com;
fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com; the_p...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 11:18 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lincoln Gergar: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas
Pump - 06/23/2015
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Great Beyond Dispatch #2
Bring back Turq!Bring back Turq! Bring back Turq!
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Great Beyond Dispatch #2
How come so many are talking about Turq? It seems he is still very much
with us here, in spite of the cadre that wanted him removed. And note that when
one 'R' was talked about after having been canned, he came back courtesy of
Rick. And we still do not know the offence Turq was canned for, a total lack of
transparency is still operational here by the head of the Fairfield
Inquisition. What you wrote here is about equal to anything Turq ever wrote on
this group, as far as content and tone, so his removal is all the more
inexplicable. TurquoiseBee's alleged 'badness' really has counterparts among
other members of this group, including those that ran to the Peak. Since I last
cleared my email, there are practically no posts on the Peak. It seems as if
the cowards there are returning here. An overpopulation of wussies spells ill
for the quality of content on FFL. The problem with Turq was there were few who
could make a reasoned argument against what he threw at you. Anything is
possible. Turq's main gripe, if we could call it that, was that ego co-opted
just about everything spiritual here, and so he poked repeatedly at that ego
value masquerading as spiritual wisdom.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Sour grapes, Turq? You've been here for fucking ever and now you can walk away
as if it were nothing, eh?
Nobody gunna miss ya much. Nobody gunna tearfully read your old posts like
they were photos in an album. Nobody gunna say, You know, Turq got us all on
the right track about that issue. Not even Curtis will miss how you strode so
haughtily into denial and tried to leave blood everywhere in your wake.
Nobody gunna give ya a quick fix for your addiction: imagining emotional
discomfort in others. What a fucked hobby that is. Dude, I mean, really?
You added up to a negative number here.
And now what? More coffee, group sex, films and running from the law? Just
askin'. I have always suspected you were over there because of some problems
over here. It just seems like such a natural conclusion given what a pissant
sod you seem to be in real life. What is it? Back alimony? Law suit liens?
Drug charges? One finds such a list easy to imagine.
And here's me dissin' on your ass for no reason at all, eh? You never did jack
shit one to anybody here and you can't imagine why all the chop-bustin' on ya?
And I love it that you're saying you would never come back. GAWDyou just
made it harder for yourself to beg for forgiveness. And you would've, but
now, you've purposefully made it harder because you know you would have. See
ya in a few years then. Time heals so much.
But watch, by getting Alex to repost your replies, etc., you'll weasel your way
back here and pretend you just went on vacation is all.
Aaaand, the reason I'm doing this beating of your dead stinking
horse, is that I know how much you'd like to give one of your classic asshole
responses that always and solely end up being raw vile hatred of all things
human..and now can't. Turning purple with rage over there?
You're a pill. Glad you're the one who had to end up swallowing it.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Great Beyond Dispatch #2
Bring back Turq! Bring back Turq! Bring back Turq!
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Great Beyond Dispatch #2
How come so many are talking about Turq? It seems he is still very much
with us here, in spite of the cadre that wanted him removed. And note that when
one 'R' was talked about after having been canned, he came back courtesy of
Rick. And we still do not know the offence Turq was canned for, a total lack of
transparency is still operational here by the head of the Fairfield
Inquisition. What you wrote here is about equal to anything Turq ever wrote on
this group, as far as content and tone, so his removal is all the more
inexplicable. TurquoiseBee's alleged 'badness' really has counterparts among
other members of this group, including those that ran to the Peak. Since I last
cleared my email, there are practically no posts on the Peak. It seems as if
the cowards there are returning here. An overpopulation of wussies spells ill
for the quality of content on FFL. The problem with Turq was there were few who
could make a reasoned argument against what he threw at you. Anything is
possible. Turq's main gripe, if we could call it that, was that ego co-opted
just about everything spiritual here, and so he poked repeatedly at that ego
value masquerading as spiritual wisdom.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Sour grapes, Turq? You've been here for fucking ever and now you can walk away
as if it were nothing, eh?
Nobody gunna miss ya much. Nobody gunna tearfully read your old posts like
they were photos in an album. Nobody gunna say, You know, Turq got us all on
the right track about that issue. Not even Curtis will miss how you strode so
haughtily into denial and tried to leave blood everywhere in your wake.
Nobody gunna give ya a quick fix for your addiction: imagining emotional
discomfort in others. What a fucked hobby that is. Dude, I mean, really?
You added up to a negative number here.
And now what? More coffee, group sex, films and running from the law? Just
askin'. I have always suspected you were over there because of some problems
over here. It just seems like such a natural conclusion given what a pissant
sod you seem to be in real life. What is it? Back alimony? Law suit liens?
Drug charges? One finds such a list easy to imagine.
And here's me dissin' on your ass for no reason at all, eh? You never did jack
shit one to anybody here and you can't imagine why all the chop-bustin' on ya?
And I love it that you're saying you would never come back. GAWDyou just
made it harder for yourself to beg for forgiveness. And you would've, but
now, you've purposefully made it harder because you know you would have. See
ya in a few years then. Time heals so much.
But watch, by getting Alex to repost your replies, etc., you'll weasel your way
back here and pretend you just went on vacation is all.
Aaaand, the reason I'm doing this beating of your dead stinking
horse, is that I know how much you'd like to give one of your classic asshole
responses that always and solely end up being raw vile hatred of all things
human..and now can't. Turning purple with rage over there?
You're a pill. Glad you're the one who had to end up swallowing it.
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