[FairfieldLife] ‘No sex please, we’re meditating’: peace and positivity on a weekend retreat

[eustace10679]

Counterfeit TM.
 

 No sex please, we’re meditating’: peace and positivity on a weekend retreat
 

 
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2019/oct/23/peace-positivity-meditation-retreat-west-sussex-yoga-detox
 
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2019/oct/23/peace-positivity-meditation-retreat-west-sussex-yoga-detox-

[FairfieldLife] No ET's on the Moon?

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Took this video with my new Nikon P1000. The trembling is partly intentional.
 Can't see any ET bases on the Moon:
 

 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/40661824523/in/album-72157704614325282/
 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/40661824523/in/album-72157704614325282/

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] "No world war in 2019"

[srijau]

very highly regarded Jyotishi says no world war in 2019, due to the nature of 
the signs involved in the Saturn - Ketu conjunction.
 

[FairfieldLife] No need for Dark Matter?

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

 https://youtu.be/P7XH-bsso54 https://youtu.be/P7XH-bsso54

 

 If gravity was an emergent phenomenon, would it perchance make Yogic Flying 
more, well,
 plausible, or whatever?
 

[FairfieldLife] no metoo moments here

[srijau]

I brutally honest look at decades in the movement, with some regrets , 
resentments and criticisms. Sisterhood evident at times  but  no metoo moments 
at all  by Rhoda Orme Johnson

 
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B06XFK5FDV/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
 
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B06XFK5FDV/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

 

[FairfieldLife] no thanks to media lies on Hindu people and institutions

[srijau]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv6tQF8-ffo&t=2s 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv6tQF8-ffo&t=2s 

[FairfieldLife] No Enemies = No Nuclear War: a response to Vladimir Putin

[email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No Enemies = No Nuclear War: 

a response to Vladimir Putin
By Dr. David Leffler
Russian President Vladimir Putin asserted in his annual speech, delivered on 
Thursday in Moscow, that his military has a new intercontinental cruise missile 
that is “Invincible.” For the sake of argument, lets say that it really exists 
and that it is really unstoppable.
President Putin could obtain invincibility for Russia if his armed forces were 
trained to form a Prevention Wing of the Military, comprised of Invincible 
Defense Technology experts. Field tested scientific studies show that large 
groups practicing the non-religious Transcendental Meditation® (TM) and the 
advanced TM-Sidhi® programs in a group twice a day generate a field effect that 
profoundly influences all within its vincinity. Militaries worldwide have 
field-tested this approach and are deploying it today.
PLS READ MORE >>>
http://www.maravipost.com/no-enemies-no-nuclear-war-response-vladimir-putin/


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[FairfieldLife] No Boundary Proposal

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This is a documentary showing the very latest theory in cosmology.  The 
proposal attempts to include all of the known ideas in physics and attempts 
make measurements to prove the theory.  In the end, IMO, the proposal is very 
complicated and highly sophisticated which can only be understood by a few 
scientists in the world--thus qualifying them to be the new high priests of 
science.
 

 http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry_pILPr7B8 
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry_pILPr7B8

 

 

[FairfieldLife] No cause and effect!

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Baghdad Golden Age?
 

 https://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y?t=33m https://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y?t=33m

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] No Prison Time for Incest?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That seems unfair to the victim.  Or, should the judge be impeached?
 

 Montana judge sparks outrage with no prison time for incest 
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/montana-judge-sparks-outrage-with-no-prison-time-for-incest/ar-AAjfpti?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
 
 
 
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/montana-judge-sparks-outrage-with-no-prison-time-for-incest/ar-AAjfpti?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
 
 
 Montana judge sparks outrage with no prison time for inc... 
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/montana-judge-sparks-outrage-with-no-prison-time-for-incest/ar-AAjfpti?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
 A judge's decision not to order prison time for a Montana man who raped his 
12-year-old daughter has sparked outrage from afar and calls closer to home to 
t...
 
 
 
 View on www.msn.com 
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/montana-judge-sparks-outrage-with-no-prison-time-for-incest/ar-AAjfpti?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
 
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[FairfieldLife] No Surprise Here

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/07/trump-bombs-delivers-historically-terrible-performance-commander-chief-forum.html
 
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/07/trump-bombs-delivers-historically-terrible-performance-commander-chief-forum.html

[FairfieldLife] No Messiah

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Quantico star Priyanka Chopra is not the Messiah.
 

 'Quantico' star Priyanka Chopra: 'I'm not the messiah, I'm just a girl' 
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-ca-st-priyanka-chopra-quantico-20151025-story.html
 
 
 
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-ca-st-priyanka-chopra-quantico-20151025-story.html
 
 
 'Quantico' star Priyanka Chopra: 'I'm no... 
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-ca-st-priyanka-chopra-quantico-20151025-story.html
 Priyanka Chopra didn't need American TV to make her a star.
 
 
 
 View on www.latimes.com 
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-ca-st-priyanka-chopra-quantico-20151025-story.html
 
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[FairfieldLife] No Pants Subway Ride Celebration

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I wonder if they show up bottomless at work as well.
 

 Tens Of Thousands Celebrate 'No Pants Subway Ride' 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/no-pants-subway-ride-2016_569373f3e4b0a2b6fb70b0c8
 
 
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/no-pants-subway-ride-2016_569373f3e4b0a2b6fb70b0c8
 
 
 Tens Of Thousands Celebrate 'No Pants Subway Ride... 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/no-pants-subway-ride-2016_569373f3e4b0a2b6fb70b0c8
 People from more than 60 cities participated in the annual event.
 
 
 
 View on www.huffingtonpost.com 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/no-pants-subway-ride-2016_569373f3e4b0a2b6fb70b0c8
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 

 

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No US Troops in Syria: Petraeus

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I was watching O'Rielly tonight and someone speculated that Putin could get 
even with Turkey by funding the Kurds in Turkey while we fund the Kurds in 
Iraq. Kurdistan could become a reality out of all this.

  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:46 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No US Troops in Syria: Petraeus
   
    He says that Sunni fighters should do the actual battle to eliminate ISIS.  
But there aren't enough of them to sustain a fight.  He also recommends that 
the headquarters of a joint strike force should be located in Turkey.  However, 
the current shooting of a Russian plane by Turkey may complicate matters.  
Would this lead to WWIII?  If so, ISIS would win and establish its caliphate in 
the Middle East.
Petraeus Warns: No U.S. Ground Troops in Syria
 
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[FairfieldLife] No US Troops in Syria: Petraeus

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

He says that Sunni fighters should do the actual battle to eliminate ISIS.  But 
there aren't enough of them to sustain a fight.  He also recommends that the 
headquarters of a joint strike force should be located in Turkey.  However, the 
current shooting of a Russian plane by Turkey may complicate matters.  Would 
this lead to WWIII?  If so, ISIS would win and establish its caliphate in the 
Middle East.
 

 Petraeus Warns: No U.S. Ground Troops in Syria 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/petraeus-warns-no-u-ground-185200489.html

 
 
 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/petraeus-warns-no-u-ground-185200489.html 
 
 Petraeus Warns: No U.S. Ground Troops in Syria 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/petraeus-warns-no-u-ground-185200489.html Retired 
U.S. Army General David Petraeus, the man who oversaw the (temporary) 
restoration of order in Iraq following the Sunni awakening and the...
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] No Subject

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

[FairfieldLife] No More Burgers in India

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Eating beef not fundamental right, Maharashtra government tells High Court
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| Eating beef not fundamental right, Maharashtra governme...The Advocate 
General said there are several other food items that provide the same nutrition 
as that of beef. |
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Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]]

There is only one single informant on this list that has any insider movement 
information to share - most of the rest seem to be just disgruntled impostors 
who got kicked out of the TMO. 

After all those years living off the cult, I'm not surprised they got kicked 
out. 

I mean if you can't fly or levitate and you didn't reach enlightenment in 5-7 
years or if you didn't produce a single person that was enlightened in 40 
years, then they deserved to get kicked out of the cult. They obviously sucked 
as spiritual teachers. It's probably not complicated. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I think he's a newbie convert, the people who get into things are so much more 
passionate about them than people who grow up with it as a background. Srijau 
reminds me of a lot of people I knew in the TMO.

Some of us are still trying to figure out who your are or who YOU are 
pretending to be. LoL! 

Maybe it's time for some of us to post their credentials - there seem to be a 
lot of TMO status claims on this forum. From what I've read there is not a 
single re-certified TMer teacher in good standing currently posting to FFL. 

Why is it so difficult for you guys to be honest? Are they still looking for 
you or what? Go figure. 

 

 But I think your hopes of a conversation will be dashed as they can never 
remember to click on the "show message history" so we don't know what post is 
being commented on. 

Non sequitur.

Nabby used to have problems with that I recall. It must be a function of a 
highly coherent brain. Too well trained to bother with minutae perhaps?

Non sequitur.


 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have to admit that I have wondered the same thing myself, Michael. My guess 
would be a natural-born Hindu "raised up" in a TMO environment like MUM, 
probably not in India itself. 

I honestly thank him very much for his participation here, because I think over 
the years I'd lost touch with all the things that a *real* TB TMer was supposed 
to believe, and fervently. Srijau believes all of it, and seemingly without 
reservation. 

 

 Should he ever be interested in actual communication, as opposed to "shoot the 
infidels" drive-bys, I for one would be interested in what his personal history 
with TM actually was/is. I simply cannot IMAGINE anyone still believing the 
things this guy seems to believe to the core of his being. Who do you have to 
be and where do you have to be from to still believe this stuff?

 


 

 

 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 6:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu whose roots are in India and who 
grew up in a devout Hindu home, or if he is a white man Hindoo wannabe who got 
hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?

 

 


 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

 


   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 






 

 


 











 


 













  

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]]

 IF the Maharishi taught yogic flying using a telephone, THEN, he could 
probably have taught meditation using a webpage, ELSE he could have used a 
TWEET. It's not complicated.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Eh, he DOES have a point: 

 if TM works as advertised, AND learning TM from a book or webpage isn't really 
useful, AND the Maharishi Effect is real AND if several-other-things...
 

 then what Maharishi has done is more than a little significant with respect to 
Humanity-as-a-whole.
 

 Lots of "ifs" of course.
 
L
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 





 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]]

There's just no way that the billionaire guru, the Maharishi, could ever 
compare to all your accomplishments. LoL!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 How odd, 

What is odd is that you're posting all your messages using an alias. Nobody 
will probably ever know that you spent most of your day, for years, posting 
messages to social media. Maybe that was your plan from the beginning, using a 
fake name, since most of your messages consist of prattle anyway. Go figure.

I wonder who organises that and why? 

Non sequitur.

Preserve our genius for future generations to wonder over perhaps

Non sequitur.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I did a Google search to see if I could discover more about Srijau. I 
discovered nothing about him, but I did uncover another off-site FFL archive 
that I was not aware of until just now:

fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com http://fairfieldlife.yahoogroups.narkive.com/ 
 
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com http://fairfieldlife.yahoogroups.narkive.com/ 
Mailing List fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 2.56k threads, 18.8k posts, ranked 
#60


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu whose roots are in India and who 
grew up in a devout Hindu home, or if he is a white man Hindoo wannabe who got 
hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?

 

 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

 


   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 






 

 


 













  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I did a Google search to see if I could discover more about Srijau. I 
discovered nothing about him, but I did uncover another off-site FFL archive 
that I was not aware of until just now:

fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com http://fairfieldlife.yahoogroups.narkive.com/ 
 
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com http://fairfieldlife.yahoogroups.narkive.com/ 
Mailing List fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 2.56k threads, 18.8k posts, ranked 
#60


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu whose roots are in India and who 
grew up in a devout Hindu home, or if he is a white man Hindoo wannabe who got 
hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?

 

 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

 


   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 






 

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]]

Obviously you've lost touch with any of your TMer friends - that's why  you are 
such an avid FFL reader  you probably get all of your TMO news from this forum. 
LoL!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have to admit that I have wondered the same thing myself, Michael. 

You seem to be taking this forum really seriously. Some people feel better when 
they have someone to talk to.

You need to face the truth, Barry: you were kicked out of the cult; you are out 
of the insider loop; you threw all your old friends under the bus. You are not 
allowed to set foot inside any  golden dome, vastu house, or campus, anywhere 
on the planet. Your name is mud all over Fairfield, IA. Just deal with it and 
move on.

My guess would be a natural-born Hindu "raised up" in a TMO environment like 
MUM, probably not in India itself. 

Non sequitur.

I honestly thank him very much for his participation here, because I think over 
the years I'd lost touch with all the things that a *real* TB TMer was supposed 
to believe, and fervently. Srijau believes all of it, and seemingly without 
reservation. 

Non sequitur.

 

 Should he ever be interested in actual communication, as opposed to "shoot the 
infidels" drive-bys, I for one would be interested in what his personal history 
with TM actually was/is. I simply cannot IMAGINE anyone still believing the 
things this guy seems to believe to the core of his being. 

Non sequitur.

Who do you have to be and where do you have to be from to still believe this 
stuff?

Non sequitur.

 

 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 6:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu whose roots are in India and who 
grew up in a devout Hindu home, or if he is a white man Hindoo wannabe who got 
hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?

 

 


 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

 


   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 






 

 


 











 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]]

 He probably means a white American kind of guy that goes to India and joins 
the Kali cult, then comes back to the USA and tries to tell everyone abut his 
new tantra religion. LoL!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You mean a "honky Hindu"? :-D 
 
 On 04/14/2015 09:47 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu whose roots are in India and 
who grew up in a devout Hindu home, or if he is a white man Hindoo wannabe who 
got hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?

 
 
 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

 
 

   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   thanMaharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 






 



 
 







 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]]

You sound kind of prejudiced against Hindus - I've noted this before. 

Maybe  you should get some smarts  - many Hindus are "white" people; they have 
roots in the Caucasian Sanskrit-speaking people that migrated into India in 
1500 CE. 

Apparently you don't think these things through before you post, but it makes 
you look really stupid. Where is Judy when we need her?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu

Non sequitur.

 whose roots are in India

Non sequitur.

and who grew up in a devout Hindu home, 

Non sequitur.

or if he is a white man Hindoo wannabe

Non sequitur.

 who got hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?

Non sequitur.

 

 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

 


   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 






 

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]]

 Actually, your post below sounds kind of "Gestapo" like.  

 Apparently that's what happens to people after they take a TTC? The two Barrys 
are a case in point - one wants to bury us under cement and the other one 
called the Interpol cops on us!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.

Non sequitur. 

Apparently almost everyone who came back from learning the AofE used some kind 
of strong-arm tactics on their friends. In fact, almost every post in this 
thread, except for Lawson's, smacks of Gestapo tactics. 

It's interesting that Lawson never went for a TTC - and that he is one of the 
most informative informants on the forum. Go figure.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 





 
 

  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.

Non sequitur.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 





 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Heh. 

 And you're certain that any and all of the contingencies are invalided?
 

 My Dad taught me that thunder is caused by clouds bumping together. He's got a 
point.
 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Eh, he DOES have a point: 

 if TM works as advertised, AND learning TM from a book or webpage isn't really 
useful, AND the Maharishi Effect is real AND if several-other-things...
 

 then what Maharishi has done is more than a little significant with respect to 
Humanity-as-a-whole.
 

 Lots of "ifs" of course.
 

 He hasn't got a point then has he.
 
L
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 





 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]]

So, the _Tao te ching_'s first line is context-dependent? 

 

 'K.
 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I looked at that website last week and it was an attempt by someone to teach 
what they could via book and web.  It does not pretend to replace personal 
instruction and there are some posts about that.  But there have been books 
around for ages that provide techniques one can use in the place of personal 
instruction.  How well they work may depend on the reader.
 
 On 04/14/2015 12:08 PM, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   Eh, he DOES have a point:
 

 if TM works as advertised, AND learning TM from a book or webpage isn't really 
useful, AND the Maharishi Effect is real AND if several-other-things...
 

 then what Maharishi has done is more than a little significant with respect to 
Humanity-as-a-whole.
 

 Lots of "ifs" of course.
 
 L
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 






 





 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]]

Heh. 

 And you're certain that any and all of the contingencies are invalided?
 

 

 L
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Eh, he DOES have a point: 

 if TM works as advertised, AND learning TM from a book or webpage isn't really 
useful, AND the Maharishi Effect is real AND if several-other-things...
 

 then what Maharishi has done is more than a little significant with respect to 
Humanity-as-a-whole.
 

 Lots of "ifs" of course.
 

 He hasn't got a point then has he.
 
L
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 





 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Eh, he DOES have a point: 

 if TM works as advertised, AND learning TM from a book or webpage isn't really 
useful, AND the Maharishi Effect is real AND if several-other-things...
 

 then what Maharishi has done is more than a little significant with respect to 
Humanity-as-a-whole.
 

 Lots of "ifs" of course.
 

 He hasn't got a point then has he.
 
L
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 





 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

I looked at that website last week and it was an attempt by someone to 
teach what they could via book and web.  It does not pretend to replace 
personal instruction and there are some posts about that.  But there 
have been books around for ages that provide techniques one can use in 
the place of personal instruction.  How well they work may depend on the 
reader.


On 04/14/2015 12:08 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Eh, he DOES have a point:


if TM works as advertised, AND learning TM from a book or webpage 
isn't really useful, AND the Maharishi Effect is real AND if 
several-other-things...


then what Maharishi has done is more than a little significant with 
respect to Humanity-as-a-whole.


Lots of "ifs" of course.

L

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the 
other day who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves 
and acted like TM gestapo.


On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... 
<mailto:turquoiseb@...> [FairfieldLife] wrote:


*From:* "srijau@..." <mailto:srijau@...> 
<mailto:srijau@...>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of
the world from the beginning of time

than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to
create the Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/

*/I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like
watching a long-time junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand
on a street corner and rant at passersby for two hours./*
*/
/*

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]]

Eh, he DOES have a point: 

 if TM works as advertised, AND learning TM from a book or webpage isn't really 
useful, AND the Maharishi Effect is real AND if several-other-things...
 

 then what Maharishi has done is more than a little significant with respect to 
Humanity-as-a-whole.
 

 Lots of "ifs" of course.
 
L
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 





 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have to admit that I have wondered the same thing myself, Michael. My guess 
would be a natural-born Hindu "raised up" in a TMO environment like MUM, 
probably not in India itself. 

I honestly thank him very much for his participation here, because I think over 
the years I'd lost touch with all the things that a *real* TB TMer was supposed 
to believe, and fervently. Srijau believes all of it, and seemingly without 
reservation. 

 

 Should he ever be interested in actual communication, as opposed to "shoot the 
infidels" drive-bys, I for one would be interested in what his personal history 
with TM actually was/is. I simply cannot IMAGINE anyone still believing the 
things this guy seems to believe to the core of his being. Who do you have to 
be and where do you have to be from to still believe this stuff?

 

 I think he's a newbie convert, the people who get into things are so much more 
passionate about them than people who grow up with it as a background. Srijau 
reminds me of a lot of people I knew in the TMO.
 

 But I think your hopes of a conversation will be dashed as they can never 
remember to click on the "show message history" so we don't know what post is 
being commented on. Nabby used to have problems with that I recall. It must be 
a function of a highly coherent brain. Too well trained to bother with minutae 
perhaps?
 

 

 From: "Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 6:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu whose roots are in India and who 
grew up in a devout Hindu home, or if he is a white man Hindoo wannabe who got 
hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?

 

 


 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

 


   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 






 

 


 











 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[salyavin808]

 How odd, I wonder who organises that and why? Preserve our genius for future 
generations to wonder over perhaps

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I did a Google search to see if I could discover more about Srijau. I 
discovered nothing about him, but I did uncover another off-site FFL archive 
that I was not aware of until just now:

fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com http://fairfieldlife.yahoogroups.narkive.com/ 
 
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com http://fairfieldlife.yahoogroups.narkive.com/ 
Mailing List fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 2.56k threads, 18.8k posts, ranked 
#60


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu whose roots are in India and who 
grew up in a devout Hindu home, or if he is a white man Hindoo wannabe who got 
hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?

 

 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

 


   From: "srijau@..." mailto:srijau@...  mailto:srijau@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 






 

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I did a Google search to see if I could discover more about Srijau. I 
discovered nothing about him, but I did uncover another off-site FFL archive 
that I was not aware of until just now:

fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com http://fairfieldlife.yahoogroups.narkive.com/ 
 
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com http://fairfieldlife.yahoogroups.narkive.com/ 
Mailing List fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 2.56k threads, 18.8k posts, ranked 
#60
 
 
 
 View on fairfieldlife.yahoogroups.narkive.com 
http://fairfieldlife.yahoogroups.narkive.com/ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu whose roots are in India and who 
grew up in a devout Hindu home, or if he is a white man Hindoo wannabe who got 
hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?

 

 From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
 
 
   
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other day 
who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like TM 
gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

 


   From: "sri...@ymail.com" mailto:sri...@ymail.com  
mailto:sri...@ymail.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
 
 
   than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
 
 
 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 
 
 
 






 






 

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I have to admit that I have wondered the same thing myself, Michael. My guess 
would be a natural-born Hindu "raised up" in a TMO environment like MUM, 
probably not in India itself. 

I honestly thank him very much for his participation here, because I think over 
the years I'd lost touch with all the things that a *real* TB TMer was supposed 
to believe, and fervently. Srijau believes all of it, and seemingly without 
reservation. 

Should he ever be interested in actual communication, as opposed to "shoot the 
infidels" drive-bys, I for one would be interested in what his personal history 
with TM actually was/is. I simply cannot IMAGINE anyone still believing the 
things this guy seems to believe to the core of his being. Who do you have to 
be and where do you have to be from to still believe this stuff?

 From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 6:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
   
    I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu whose roots are in India and 
who grew up in a devout Hindu home, or if he is a white man Hindoo wannabe who 
got hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?

 

 From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
   
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other 
day who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like 
TM gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  


    From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
   
    than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create 
the Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity
  
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
  
  I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
 junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours. 
   
   
  
 
  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

You mean a "honky Hindu"? :-D

On 04/14/2015 09:47 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu whose roots are in India 
and who grew up in a devout Hindu home, or if he is a white man Hindoo 
wannabe who got hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?



*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of 
the world from the beginning of time


Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the 
other day who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves 
and acted like TM gestapo.


On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:



*From:* "sri...@ymail.com" <mailto:sri...@ymail.com> 
 <mailto:sri...@ymail.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the 
world from the beginning of time


than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create 
the Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/

*/I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a 
long-time junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street 
corner and rant at passersby for two hours./*

*/
/*
*//*

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I wonder if Srijau is a born and raised Hindu whose roots are in India and who 
grew up in a devout Hindu home, or if he is a white man Hindoo wannabe who got 
hooked by Marshy's dog and pony show?

  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world 
from the beginning of time
   
 Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the other 
day who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves and acted like 
TM gestapo.
 
 On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
  


    From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
   
    than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create 
the Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity
  
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
  
  I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
 junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours. 
   
   
  
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Srijau is a good example of the kind of people I was mentioning the 
other day who came back from the AE courses, made asses of themselves 
and acted like TM gestapo.


On 04/13/2015 11:49 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

*From:* "sri...@ymail.com" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the 
world from the beginning of time


than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create 
the Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity

https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/

*/I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a 
long-time junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street 
corner and rant at passersby for two hours./*

*/
/*
*//*

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]]

I don't know how I would go through a single day without reading your words of 
wisdom. Keep up the good work - you make it all so not complicated. I think 
I've got it all figured out now. "Seeing is believing."

"Over the years, I saw him levitate, as in sitting in lotus and just lifting up 
off the chair and hovering there in midair for minutes at a time..." - 
TurquoiseB

http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg12287.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg12287.html
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote : 

 I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 3:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from 
the beginning of time
   
    than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/

I love it when Srijau goes on a Belief Bender. It's like watching a long-time 
junkie shoot up in a doorway and then stand on a street corner and rant at 
passersby for two hours.


  

[FairfieldLife] No one greater in the whole history of the world from the beginning of time

[srijau]

than Maharishi Mahesh Yogi who gave mankind the possibility to create the 
Maharishi Effect for perpetual peace and prosperity
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/
 
https://www.mum.edu/about-mum/consciousness-based-education/tm-research/maharishi-effect/

 

[FairfieldLife] No religious content in enlightenment

[aryavazhi]

Sorry for the bad quality of this video of UG, I think a must-see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMTeNfOd45I 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMTeNfOd45I

 

[FairfieldLife] No!

[cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

"Are the Scots independent yet?" http://www.arethescotsindependentyet.com/ 
 
 http://www.arethescotsindependentyet.com/ 
 
 "Are the Scots independent yet?" http://www.arethescotsindependentyet.com/ 
Follow the results of the Scottish independence referendum on the Guardian
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] No Haven for Terrorists

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 9/10/2014 9:33 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-outlining-mission-fight-islamic-militants-052622030.html
>


Obama outlined his plan to destroy ISIS which includes attacking them 
in Syria. But he didn't say when and what city will be attacked.



>
What we need is some intelligence on the ground, then when we get word 
of the location of /Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi/ there will be a drone over his 
head with a missile with his name on it. It could happen now, in the 
next few hours, tomorrow or the next day, but real soon, that's what I 
think.


Dr. Strangelove - The Bomb Run Sequence
http://youtu.be/QSbPqin3L6E

[FairfieldLife] No Haven for Terrorists

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Obama outlined his plan to destroy ISIS which includes attacking them in Syria. 
But he didn't say when and what city will be attacked.
 

 
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-outlining-mission-fight-islamic-militants-052622030.html
 
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-outlining-mission-fight-islamic-militants-052622030.html

 

 

[FairfieldLife] No Toxic Pesticides or GMOs Allowed Here: Welcome to America’s Only “Organic City

[nablusoss1008]

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City” - See more at: No Toxic Pesticides or GMOs Allowed Here: Welcome to 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] no more patents??

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 6/13/2014 7:22 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Read an article last night about Elon Musk, the Tesla guy, making all 
the design work on the Tesla, open source. His justification is that 
innovation is rapid enough these days, that to claim a patent actually 
retards the process, by ensnaring the inventor in a raft of lawsuits, 
and litigation. He is also looking for outside assistance with battery 
technology, for faster, cheaper recharging. I pass the Tesla plant 
frequently, on my way in and out of the Bay Area. - they took over the 
old Nummi plant (GM/Toyota). Wasn't sure they would make it, and 
hopefully Tesla has hired back some of the 2,500 workers displaced 
when Nummi closed.



>
Like.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] no more patents??

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

The former head of Sun Computers, Scott McNeeley, once said that open 
source should be extended to more than just software.


On 06/13/2014 05:22 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:


Read an article last night about Elon Musk, the Tesla guy, making all 
the design work on the Tesla, open source. His justification is that 
innovation is rapid enough these days, that to claim a patent actually 
retards the process, by ensnaring the inventor in a raft of lawsuits, 
and litigation. He is also looking for outside assistance with battery 
technology, for faster, cheaper recharging. I pass the Tesla plant 
frequently, on my way in and out of the Bay Area. - they took over the 
old Nummi plant (GM/Toyota). Wasn't sure they would make it, and 
hopefully Tesla has hired back some of the 2,500 workers displaced 
when Nummi closed.

[FairfieldLife] no more patents??

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Read an article last night about Elon Musk, the Tesla guy, making all the 
design work on the Tesla, open source. His justification is that innovation is 
rapid enough these days, that to claim a patent actually retards the process, 
by ensnaring the inventor in a raft of lawsuits, and litigation. He is also 
looking for outside assistance with battery technology, for faster, cheaper 
recharging. I pass the Tesla plant frequently, on my way in and out of the Bay 
Area. - they took over the old Nummi plant (GM/Toyota). Wasn't sure they would 
make it, and hopefully Tesla has hired back some of the 2,500 workers displaced 
when Nummi closed.

[FairfieldLife] "No Effort" means no need for self-reflexive monitoring

[emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 As MMY used to point out: 
  
 Recollecting the mantra (boing, boing) is simple, natural remembering and does 
not require some special or applied effort at recall. Therefore, the first 
shift of attention from thinking/feeling/sensing is effortless because 
remembering the mantra is effortless.
  
 Recognizing “Oh, I am now thinking” is also a natural occurrence and does not 
require self-reflective examination, mental analysis or any type of 
self-monitoring process. Therefore, the second shift of attention is also 
effortless.
  
 Therefore … since two shifts of attention were effortless, likewise the third 
shift.
  
 Returning to the mantra (boing, boing), is the third shift of attention and is 
just recollecting it like the first shift of attention … “I was thinking of 
something other than the mantra. “Oh … boing, boing”.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No world peace with meditation!

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thanks for posting that - I made a very nice comment to the article myself. I 
hope Ken Chawkin, the TM troll and all his buddies like it very much.




 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 2:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] No world peace with meditation!
 


  


Value neutral meditation helps killers and traders! A positive message for our 
times.


To Make a Killing on Wall Street, Start Meditating

 
   To Make a Killing on Wall Street, Start Meditating  
When stock and bond markets took a dive in late January, hedge-fund manager 
David Ford kept his cool.  
View on www.bloomberg.com Preview by Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] No world peace with meditation!

[salyavin808]

 Value neutral meditation helps killers and traders! A positive message for our 
times.
 

 

 To Make a Killing on Wall Street, Start Meditating 
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-28/to-make-killing-on-wall-street-start-meditating.html

 
 
 
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-28/to-make-killing-on-wall-street-start-meditating.html
 
 
 To Make a Killing on Wall Street, Start Meditating 
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-28/to-make-killing-on-wall-street-start-meditating.html
 When stock and bond markets took a dive in late January, hedge-fund manager 
David Ford kept his cool.
 
 
 
 View on www.bloomberg.com 
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-28/to-make-killing-on-wall-street-start-meditating.html
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Happiness in Iran...

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

On my Allah! The vulgarity of it all! 
On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:47 AM, salyavin808  
wrote:
  


  
'Happiness' Video Prompts Arrests, And A Presidential Tweet, In Iran

  
  'Happiness' Video Prompts Arrests, And A Preside...  
Authorities arrested the men and women after they danced together in a YouTube 
tribute to Pharrell Williams' ubiquitous song. After the president ...  
View on www.npr.org  Preview by Yahoo   
  
 

[FairfieldLife] No Happiness in Iran...

[salyavin808]

'Happiness' Video Prompts Arrests, And A Presidential Tweet, In Iran 
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/21/314577508/happiness-video-prompts-arrests-and-a-presidential-tweet-in-iran

 
 
 
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/21/314577508/happiness-video-prompts-arrests-and-a-presidential-tweet-in-iran
 
 
 'Happiness' Video Prompts Arrests, And A Preside... 
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/21/314577508/happiness-video-prompts-arrests-and-a-presidential-tweet-in-iran
 Authorities arrested the men and women after they danced together in a YouTube 
tribute to Pharrell Williams' ubiquitous song. After the president ...
 
 
 
 View on www.npr.org 
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/21/314577508/happiness-video-prompts-arrests-and-a-presidential-tweet-in-iran
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] No earth??

[cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Moving through space: By Samyama on the relationship between the body and space 
(akasha) and by concentrating on the lightness of cotton, passage through space 
can be attained. While sutra 3.40 described levitation, this sutra describes 
moving through space. 
 Note the quality of opposites: A universal principle is relatively easy to see 
in this sutra. The samyama is on the relationship between the body and space. 
This results in the body having a lightness that is likened to cotton. The 
samyama allows a releasing or a cessation of the process of heaviness or earth 
element. Then, the natural lightness is experienced. It is not that a new 
quality of lightness is being attained or added on. Rather, it is a ceasing to 
be connected with the quality of earth or heaviness of body. Over and over, 
this process or practice (1.2 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.2) 
of cessation of identity (1.4 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.4) 
is repeated until the Self comes shining through (1.3 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-10104.htm#1.3). 
 Attainments and obstacles: As with the other subtle experiences this is seen 
to be both an attainment and an obstacle, and is set aside (Yoga Sutras of 
Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle experiences 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm) with non-attachment (1.15 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-11216.htm#1.15). 
 
 
 http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm 
 
 Yoga Sutras of Patanjali 3.38: What to do with subtle ex... 
http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm Yoga Sutras: Extensive practical 
explanations of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali. The Yoga Sutras succinctly 
outlines Yoga Meditation for Self-Realiz...
 
 
 
 View on www.swamij.com http://www.swamij.com/yoga-sutras-338.htm 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[Share Long]

Lawson, thanks for the really thorough explanation. I especially like the 
example of the kittens raised in a unidirectional striped environment then not 
being able to see the missing direction.

Along with that, I'd say that "shining ones" is simply another reference to how 
essential to human development is both light and the sense of sight.

I also liked your explanation about Dr. Nader's insight about the Ramayana in 
human physiology. I'll try to find what Ganesh stand for. I think someone asked 
about that. Maybe just joking but anyway...





On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:21 AM, "lengli...@cox.net"  
wrote:
 
  
I would say that devas are labels given to fundamental behaviors and 
connections that enlightened sages perceived as existing within themselves and 
perceived as external to themselves as well.

Of course, most neuroscientists are pretty confident that the only way we can 
interpret reality is based on how our brain works, so the fact that devas are 
internal and external at teh same time is an inescapable consequence of having 
a nervous system connected to physical sense-organs.

The world is as we are simply because we can't even conceive of it being 
differently, and if an alien species with a sufficiently radically different 
nervous system and sense organs showed up, there wold literally be no ways to 
communicate about certain things. 

Just as kittens who have lost the ability to perceive horizontal bars will bump 
into horizontal bars no matter what, we (and the aliens) would find certain 
concepts common to the other species, completely incomprehensible. 

So devas aren't just about "physical laws," but social interactions, 
intuitions, and any/all other aspects of human existence and human perception.

My belief is that they are "shining ones" because they are so fundamental to 
how enlightened sages perceive things that their existence as the commonality 
behind various related "things" like love, or destruction or creation or 
whatever leaps out at the sage even before the sage can label the thing that 
they are looking at/thinking about.


L

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[LEnglish5]

I would say that devas are labels given to fundamental behaviors and 
connections that enlightened sages perceived as existing within themselves and 
perceived as external to themselves as well. 

 Of course, most neuroscientists are pretty confident that the only way we can 
interpret reality is based on how our brain works, so the fact that devas are 
internal and external at teh same time is an inescapable consequence of having 
a nervous system connected to physical sense-organs.
 

 The world is as we are simply because we can't even conceive of it being 
differently, and if an alien species with a sufficiently radically different 
nervous system and sense organs showed up, there wold literally be no ways to 
communicate about certain things. 
 

 Just as kittens who have lost the ability to perceive horizontal bars will 
bump into horizontal bars no matter what, we (and the aliens) would find 
certain concepts common to the other species, completely incomprehensible. 
 

 So devas aren't just about "physical laws," but social interactions, 
intuitions, and any/all other aspects of human existence and human perception.
 

 My belief is that they are "shining ones" because they are so fundamental to 
how enlightened sages perceive things that their existence as the commonality 
behind various related "things" like love, or destruction or creation or 
whatever leaps out at the sage even before the sage can label the thing that 
they are looking at/thinking about.
 

 

 L
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[LEnglish5]

"Mantra of personal god" is an interesting phrase. 

 "personal god" is one way of translating the Yoga Sutra term, "ishtadeva," 
which can also be translated as "preferred shining one," which goes back to 
Maharishi's point about a mantra being an attractive object of attention (which 
is also taken straight out of the Yoga Sutras).

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[LEnglish5]

Herbert Benson called "The Relaxation Response" prayer early in his career, and 
expressed concerns that publishing positive research on its effects would get 
him ostracized. 

 And yet, TM isn't really prayer in any normally accepted sense of the word I'm 
familiar with.
 

 Can you pray, not only to an unknown deity, but without being conscious of the 
fact that you are praying?
 

 

 L
 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[steve.sundur]

I haven't thought about it for some time, but I think at one time at least, I 
associated the troop of Maruts with clouds or some other phenomenon of nature.  
And there were other similar connections I made.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Of course there are no such things as "Hindu gods".  They are metaphors for 
laws of physics. 
 

 Can you expand on this a bit? Maybe say which one is doing what, like is 
Ganesh representing the second law of thermodynamics or gravity for instance. 
 

 

 

 As I have mentioned many times on FFL, this was so beautifully put at a talk 
given at a performance at a Katakali dance theater in Cochin.  
 
 I like to call mantras "resonance patterns" because they resonate with certain 
areas of the body and cause changes not only in consciousness but also in 
metabolic functioning.  They are indeed as said by the yogi you quote "useful 
tools."  
 
 I have also provided an example in the terms of the simple beej mantras that 
are used in ayurveda.  The next time folks folks feel a little mentally foggy 
they should try repeating the mantra "hoom" or "hoong".  It's vibration is 
centered in the area of the brain and will help clear the mind as it is a kapha 
reducing mantra.
 
 On 03/25/2014 05:02 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
   
 Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former TM’ers who 
stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the "meaning" 
of mantras. 
 Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. The claim 
is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for worshiping a Hindu 
god but that this fact is withheld from practitioners. Within the domain of 
this argument, these claimants will often quote some text from a Hindu Tantra. 
These quotes are passages usually assigning a particular deity to a particular 
mantra and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of the Sanskrit 
letters composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. This textual 
assignment is often done quite haphazardly but occasionally is done in the 
Vedic format of rishi-deva-chhanda.
 Along with the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by MMY, 
declaring that a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This argument 
quotes the TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the beneficial effects it 
produces in causing the spontaneous refinement of perception. This explanation 
is then paraded as an example of shameful exploitation of Western ignorance of 
the "Hindu" foundation of TM and of any other Indian meditation that does not 
confess itself as a form of "Hindu devotionalism". This devotionalist criticism 
is further paraded around by pointing to various Indian swamis and cross-eyed 
yogis who make these claims and arguments themselves.
 Here are some considerations about these claims:
 SBS taught in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the West. 
They both taught within the context of the Indian Hindu cultural model. 
Although they taught in India, where there are many Muslims, they did not 
present their teaching within a Muslim cultural model. Although Buddhism is 
from India and many Indians consider Buddha as one of their own, neither SBS 
nor MMY taught within a Buddhist cultural model. Rather, they taught within the 
cultural context of their listeners.
 After coming to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within the 
Indian cultural model - for a while. It was the teaching model established by 
Vivekananda and Paramahansa Yogananda – partly religious, partly philosophical 
and partly yogic. However, the cultural context of this form of teachings was 
the 19th and 20th century paradigm of Western Modernity. 
 When MMY realized the limitations brought by this model and the limitations of 
religious language here in the West he took a left turn. That divergence left 
some of his teachers behind - Charlie Lutts being an example.
 This is one reason that pointing to early religious language by MMY or SBS is 
an inaccurate over-simplification. 
 As far as the “it is all a deceit” claimants, the two groups that are the most 
antagonist and strident are the materialists and the religionists. Materialists 
claim mantras are the mumbo formulas of hindoo gods and that the concept of 
gods/god is a false idea propounded by power brokers to enslave the masses. 
This is a truncated Marxist view popular among the half-educated.
 Contrary to this, the fundamentalist religions claim that mantras are secret 
demonic traps devised to enslave us to hindoo devils. This is the view of 
true-believing adherents of the Abrahamic religions – Jews, Christians and 
Muslims. This is not some fundamentalist diatribe from TV evangelicals. This 
was the original view of Christians from the second century C.E. forward and 
was used as an ideological propellant for killing polytheists after 
Constantine’s as

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[Richard J. Williams]

On 3/25/2014 7:02 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. 
The claim is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for 
worshiping a Hindu god but that this fact is withheld from practitioners.

>
In fact, Bill, no informants have posted a definition of "mantra". Until 
they do so, we don't even know if they understand what it is they are 
attempting to debate. What is "mantra"? What is the difference between a 
mantra and a "bija" mantra?


Definition of mantra:

"A mantra is a quasi-morpheme or a series of quasi-morphemes, or a 
series of mixed genuine and quasi-morphemes, arranged in conventional 
patterns, based on codified esoteric traditions, and passed on from one 
preceptor to one disciple in the course of a prescribed initiation ritual."


Note: Keep in mind that a strict definition allows no exceptions, and 
does not include purpose.

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[Share Long]

BTW noozguru, I somehow stumbled on that metabolic typing test the other day. 
Overwhelmingly fast metabolism, what they called a protein type.

I'm using sprouts as a light protein in this kapha time...





On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:32 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:
 
  
Spring is "kapha time" according to ayurveda so it may become high.  You can 
counter balance some of that heaviness with a pinch of ginger, cinnamon and a 
dash of cloves.   I take a pinch of that after a meal and it does away with the 
craving for a desert.  The prevailing paradigm for ayurveda is to return to 
your constitution and not attempt to balance the doshas.
  
On 03/25/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long wrote:

  
>Thanks for this noozguru. Actually I've been feeling the kapha a lot the last 
>week or so, sort of heavy and lethargic. I'll try this and also avoiding any 
>heavy foods. I guess the almond butter will have to wait til December!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:53 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:
> 
>  
>Of course there are no such things as "Hindu gods".  They are metaphors for 
>laws of physics.  As I have mentioned many times on FFL, this was so 
>beautifully put at a talk given at a performance at a Katakali dance theater 
>in Cochin.  
>
>I like to call mantras "resonance
  patterns" because they resonate with
  certain areas of the body and cause
  changes not only in consciousness but
  also in metabolic functioning.  They
  are indeed as said by the yogi you
  quote "useful tools."  
>
>I have also provided an example in the
  terms of the simple beej mantras that
  are used in ayurveda.  The next time
  folks folks feel a little mentally
  foggy they should try repeating the
  mantra "hoom" or "hoong".  It's
  vibration is centered in the area of
  the brain and will help clear the mind
  as it is a kapha reducing mantra.
>
>On 03/25/2014 05:02 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>  
>>Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former TM’ers who 
>>stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the 
>>"meaning" of mantras. 
>>Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. The 
>>claim is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for worshiping a 
>>Hindu god but that this fact is withheld from practitioners. Within the 
>>domain of this argument, these claimants will often quote some text from a 
>>Hindu Tantra. These quotes are passages usually assigning a particular deity 
>>to a particular mantra and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each 
>>of the Sanskrit letters composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. 
>>This textual assignment is often done quite haphazardly but occasionally is 
>>done in the Vedic format of rishi-deva-chhanda.
>>Along with the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by MMY, 
>>declaring that a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This argument 
>>quotes the TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the beneficial effects 
>>it produces in causing the spontaneous refinement of perception. This 
>>explanation is then paraded as an example of shameful exploitation of Western 
>>ignorance of the "Hindu" foundation of TM and of any other Indian meditation 
>>that does not confess itself as a form of "Hindu devotionalism". This 
>>devotionalist criticism is further paraded around by pointing to various 
>>Indian swamis and cross-eyed yogis who make these claims and arguments 
>>themselves.
>>Here are some considerations about these claims:
>>SBS taught in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the West. 
>>They both taught within the context of the Indian Hindu cultural model. 
>>Although they taught in India, where there are many Muslims, they did not 
>>present their teaching within a Muslim cultural model. Although Buddhism is 
>>from India and many Indians consider Buddha as one of their own, neither SBS 
>>nor MMY taught within a Buddhist cultural model. Rather, they taught within 
>>the cultural context of their listeners.
>>After coming to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within the 
>>Indian cultural model - for a while. It was the teaching model established by 
>>Vivekananda and Paramahansa Yogananda – partly religious, partly 
>>philosophical and partly yogic. However, the cultural context of this form of 
>>teachings was the 19th and 20th century paradigm of Western Modernity. 
>>When MMY realized the limitations brought by this model and the limitations 
>>of religious language here in the West he took a left turn. That diverge

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[Bhairitu]

Spring is "kapha time" according to ayurveda so it may become high.  You 
can counter balance some of that heaviness with a pinch of ginger, 
cinnamon and a dash of cloves.   I take a pinch of that after a meal and 
it does away with the craving for a desert.  The prevailing paradigm for 
ayurveda is to return to your constitution and not attempt to balance 
the doshas.


On 03/25/2014 09:00 AM, Share Long wrote:
Thanks for this noozguru. Actually I've been feeling the kapha a lot 
the last week or so, sort of heavy and lethargic. I'll try this and 
also avoiding any heavy foods. I guess the almond butter will have to 
wait til December!




On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:53 AM, Bhairitu  
wrote:
Of course there are no such things as "Hindu gods".  They are 
metaphors for laws of physics.  As I have mentioned many times on FFL, 
this was so beautifully put at a talk given at a performance at a 
Katakali dance theater in Cochin.


I like to call mantras "resonance patterns" because they resonate with 
certain areas of the body and cause changes not only in consciousness 
but also in metabolic functioning.  They are indeed as said by the 
yogi you quote "useful tools."


I have also provided an example in the terms of the simple beej 
mantras that are used in ayurveda.  The next time folks folks feel a 
little mentally foggy they should try repeating the mantra "hoom" or 
"hoong".  It's vibration is centered in the area of the brain and will 
help clear the mind as it is a kapha reducing mantra.


On 03/25/2014 05:02 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former 
TM’ers who stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived 
about the "meaning" of mantras.
Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. 
The claim is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for 
worshiping a Hindu god but that this fact is withheld from 
practitioners. Within the domain of this argument, these claimants 
will often quote some text from a Hindu Tantra. These quotes are 
passages usually assigning a particular deity to a particular mantra 
and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of the Sanskrit 
letters composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. This 
textual assignment is often done quite haphazardly but occasionally 
is done in the Vedic format of rishi-deva-chhanda.
Along with the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by 
MMY, declaring that a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This 
argument quotes the TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the 
beneficial effects it produces in causing the spontaneous refinement 
of perception. This explanation is then paraded as an example of 
shameful exploitation of Western ignorance of the "Hindu" foundation 
of TM and of any other Indian meditation that does not confess itself 
as a form of "Hindu devotionalism". This devotionalist criticism is 
further paraded around by pointing to various Indian swamis and 
cross-eyed yogis who make these claims and arguments themselves.

Here are some considerations about these claims:
SBS taught in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the 
West. They both taught within the context of the Indian Hindu 
cultural model. Although they taught in India, where there are many 
Muslims, they did not present their teaching within a Muslim cultural 
model. Although Buddhism is from India and many Indians consider 
Buddha as one of their own, neither SBS nor MMY taught within a 
Buddhist cultural model. Rather, they taught within the cultural 
context of their listeners.
After coming to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within 
the Indian cultural model - for a while. It was the teaching model 
established by Vivekananda and Paramahansa Yogananda – partly 
religious, partly philosophical and partly yogic. However, the 
cultural context of this form of teachings was the 19^th and 20^th 
century paradigm of Western Modernity.
When MMY realized the limitations brought by this model and the 
limitations of religious language here in the West he took a left 
turn. That divergence left some of his teachers behind - Charlie 
Lutts being an example.
This is one reason that pointing to early religious language by MMY 
or SBS is an inaccurate over-simplification.
As far as the “it is all a deceit” claimants, the two groups that are 
the most antagonist and strident are the materialists and the 
religionists. Materialists claim mantras are the mumbo formulas of 
hindoo gods and that the concept of gods/god is a false idea 
propounded by power brokers to enslave the masses. This is a 
truncated Marxist view popular among the half-educated.
Contrary to this, the fundamentalist religions claim that mantras are 
secret demonic traps devised to enslave us to hindoo devils. This is 
the view of true-believing adherents of the Abrahamic religions – 
Jews, Christians and Muslims. This is

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Of course there are no such things as "Hindu gods".  They are metaphors for 
laws of physics. 
 

 Can you expand on this a bit? Maybe say which one is doing what, like is 
Ganesh representing the second law of thermodynamics or gravity for instance. 
 

 

 

 As I have mentioned many times on FFL, this was so beautifully put at a talk 
given at a performance at a Katakali dance theater in Cochin.  
 
 I like to call mantras "resonance patterns" because they resonate with certain 
areas of the body and cause changes not only in consciousness but also in 
metabolic functioning.  They are indeed as said by the yogi you quote "useful 
tools."  
 
 I have also provided an example in the terms of the simple beej mantras that 
are used in ayurveda.  The next time folks folks feel a little mentally foggy 
they should try repeating the mantra "hoom" or "hoong".  It's vibration is 
centered in the area of the brain and will help clear the mind as it is a kapha 
reducing mantra.
 
 On 03/25/2014 05:02 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
   
 Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former TM’ers who 
stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the "meaning" 
of mantras. 
 Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. The claim 
is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for worshiping a Hindu 
god but that this fact is withheld from practitioners. Within the domain of 
this argument, these claimants will often quote some text from a Hindu Tantra. 
These quotes are passages usually assigning a particular deity to a particular 
mantra and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of the Sanskrit 
letters composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. This textual 
assignment is often done quite haphazardly but occasionally is done in the 
Vedic format of rishi-deva-chhanda.
 Along with the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by MMY, 
declaring that a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This argument 
quotes the TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the beneficial effects it 
produces in causing the spontaneous refinement of perception. This explanation 
is then paraded as an example of shameful exploitation of Western ignorance of 
the "Hindu" foundation of TM and of any other Indian meditation that does not 
confess itself as a form of "Hindu devotionalism". This devotionalist criticism 
is further paraded around by pointing to various Indian swamis and cross-eyed 
yogis who make these claims and arguments themselves.
 Here are some considerations about these claims:
 SBS taught in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the West. 
They both taught within the context of the Indian Hindu cultural model. 
Although they taught in India, where there are many Muslims, they did not 
present their teaching within a Muslim cultural model. Although Buddhism is 
from India and many Indians consider Buddha as one of their own, neither SBS 
nor MMY taught within a Buddhist cultural model. Rather, they taught within the 
cultural context of their listeners.
 After coming to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within the 
Indian cultural model - for a while. It was the teaching model established by 
Vivekananda and Paramahansa Yogananda – partly religious, partly philosophical 
and partly yogic. However, the cultural context of this form of teachings was 
the 19th and 20th century paradigm of Western Modernity. 
 When MMY realized the limitations brought by this model and the limitations of 
religious language here in the West he took a left turn. That divergence left 
some of his teachers behind - Charlie Lutts being an example.
 This is one reason that pointing to early religious language by MMY or SBS is 
an inaccurate over-simplification. 
 As far as the “it is all a deceit” claimants, the two groups that are the most 
antagonist and strident are the materialists and the religionists. Materialists 
claim mantras are the mumbo formulas of hindoo gods and that the concept of 
gods/god is a false idea propounded by power brokers to enslave the masses. 
This is a truncated Marxist view popular among the half-educated.
 Contrary to this, the fundamentalist religions claim that mantras are secret 
demonic traps devised to enslave us to hindoo devils. This is the view of 
true-believing adherents of the Abrahamic religions – Jews, Christians and 
Muslims. This is not some fundamentalist diatribe from TV evangelicals. This 
was the original view of Christians from the second century C.E. forward and 
was used as an ideological propellant for killing polytheists after 
Constantine’s ascent to Roman power.
 What is obvious is that both groups are unable to rationally consider the 
facts because they are ideologues entrenched in a priori conclusions.  One 
example of this is a clear demarcation about the difference between yoga and 
relig

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[Share Long]

Thanks for this noozguru. Actually I've been feeling the kapha a lot the last 
week or so, sort of heavy and lethargic. I'll try this and also avoiding any 
heavy foods. I guess the almond butter will have to wait til December!





On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:53 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:
 
  
Of course there are no such things as "Hindu gods".  They are metaphors for 
laws of physics.  As I have mentioned many times on FFL, this was so 
beautifully put at a talk given at a performance at a Katakali dance theater in 
Cochin.  

I like to call mantras "resonance patterns" because they resonate
  with certain areas of the body and cause changes not only in
  consciousness but also in metabolic functioning.  They are indeed
  as said by the yogi you quote "useful tools."  

I have also provided an example in the terms of the simple beej
  mantras that are used in ayurveda.  The next time folks folks feel
  a little mentally foggy they should try repeating the mantra
  "hoom" or "hoong".  It's vibration is centered in the area of the
  brain and will help clear the mind as it is a kapha reducing
  mantra.

On 03/25/2014 05:02 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
>Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former TM’ers who 
>stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the "meaning" 
>of mantras. 
>Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. The claim 
>is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for worshiping a Hindu 
>god but that this fact is withheld from practitioners. Within the domain of 
>this argument, these claimants will often quote some text from a Hindu Tantra. 
>These quotes are passages usually assigning a particular deity to a particular 
>mantra and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of the Sanskrit 
>letters composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. This textual 
>assignment is often done quite haphazardly but occasionally is done in the 
>Vedic format of rishi-deva-chhanda.
>Along with the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by MMY, 
>declaring that a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This argument 
>quotes the TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the beneficial effects it 
>produces in causing the spontaneous refinement of perception. This explanation 
>is then paraded as an example of shameful exploitation of Western ignorance of 
>the "Hindu" foundation of TM and of any other Indian meditation that does not 
>confess itself as a form of "Hindu devotionalism". This devotionalist 
>criticism is further paraded around by pointing to various Indian swamis and 
>cross-eyed yogis who make these claims and arguments themselves.
>Here are some considerations about these claims:
>SBS taught in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the West. 
>They both taught within the context of the Indian Hindu cultural model. 
>Although they taught in India, where there are many Muslims, they did not 
>present their teaching within a Muslim cultural model. Although Buddhism is 
>from India and many Indians consider Buddha as one of their own, neither SBS 
>nor MMY taught within a Buddhist cultural model. Rather, they taught within 
>the cultural context of their listeners.
>After coming to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within the 
>Indian cultural model - for a while. It was the teaching model established by 
>Vivekananda and Paramahansa Yogananda – partly religious, partly philosophical 
>and partly yogic. However, the cultural context of this form of teachings was 
>the 19th and 20th century paradigm of Western Modernity. 
>When MMY realized the limitations brought by this model and the limitations of 
>religious language here in the West he took a left turn. That divergence left 
>some of his teachers behind - Charlie Lutts being an example.
>This is one reason that pointing to early religious language by MMY or SBS is 
>an inaccurate over-simplification. 
>As far as the “it is all a deceit” claimants, the two groups that are the most 
>antagonist and strident are the materialists and the religionists. 
>Materialists claim mantras are the mumbo formulas of hindoo gods and that the 
>concept of gods/god is a false idea propounded by power brokers to enslave the 
>masses. This is a truncated Marxist view popular among the half-educated.
>Contrary to this, the fundamentalist religions claim that mantras are secret 
>demonic traps devised to enslave us to hindoo devils. This is the view of 
>true-believing adherents of the Abrahamic religions – Jews, Christians and 
>Muslims. This is not some fundamentalist diatribe from TV evangelicals. This 
>was the original view of Christians from the second century C.E. forward and 
>was used as an ideological propellant for killing polytheists after 
>Constantine’s ascent to Roman power.    
>What is obvious is that both groups are unable to rationally consider the 
>facts because they are id

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[Share Long]

emptybill, thank you for being so generous with your knowledge and time. It's a 
good day when I learn something new. Lots of knowledge here that's new for me 
so a really good day!





On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:02 AM, "emptyb...@yahoo.com"  
wrote:
 
  
Recently I
have read here on FFL an argument professed by former TM’ers who stopped
practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the
"meaning" of mantras. 
Their
fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. The claim is that
a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for worshiping a Hindu god but
that this fact is withheld from practitioners. Within the domain of this
argument, these claimants will often quote some text from a Hindu Tantra. These
quotes are passages usually assigning a particular deity to a particular mantra
and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of the Sanskrit letters
composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. This textual assignment is 
often
done quite haphazardly but occasionally is done in the Vedic format of
rishi-deva-chhanda.
Along with
the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by MMY, declaring that
a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This argument quotes the
TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the beneficial effects it produces in
causing the spontaneous refinement of perception. This explanation is then
paraded as an example of shameful exploitation of Western ignorance of the
"Hindu" foundation of TM and of any other Indian meditation that does
not confess itself as a form of "Hindu devotionalism". This
devotionalist criticism is further paraded around by pointing to various Indian
swamis and cross-eyed yogis who make these claims and arguments themselves.
Here are some
considerations about these claims:
SBS taught
in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the West. They both
taught within the context of the Indian Hindu cultural model. Although they
taught in India, where there are many Muslims, they did not present their
teaching within a Muslim cultural model. Although Buddhism is from India and
many Indians consider Buddha as one of their own, neither SBS nor MMY taught
within a Buddhist cultural model. Rather, they taught within the cultural
context of their listeners.
After coming
to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within the Indian cultural
model - for a while. It was the teaching model established by Vivekananda and
Paramahansa Yogananda – partly religious, partly philosophical and partly
yogic. However, the cultural context of this form of teachings was the 19th and 
20th century paradigm of Western Modernity. 
When MMY
realized the limitations brought by this model and the limitations of religious
language here in the West he took a left turn. That divergence left some of his
teachers behind - Charlie Lutts being an example.
This is one
reason that pointing to early religious language by MMY or SBS is an inaccurate
over-simplification. 
As far as
the “it is all a deceit” claimants, the two groups that are the most antagonist
and strident are the materialists and the religionists. Materialists claim
mantras are the mumbo formulas of hindoo gods and that the concept of gods/god
is a false idea propounded by power brokers to enslave the masses. This is a
truncated Marxist view popular among the half-educated.
Contrary to
this, the fundamentalist religions claim that mantras are secret demonic traps
devised to enslave us to hindoo devils. This is the view of true-believing
adherents of the Abrahamic religions – Jews, Christians and Muslims. This is
not some fundamentalist diatribe from TV evangelicals. This was the original
view of Christians from the second century C.E. forward and was used as an 
ideological
propellant for killing polytheists after Constantine’s ascent to Roman
power.    
What is
obvious is that both groups are unable to rationally consider the facts because
they are ideologues entrenched in a priori conclusions.  One example of this is 
a clear demarcation
about the difference between yoga and religion. Materialists dismiss such an
idea because yoga historically emerged within in a Hindu cultural context.
Semitic monotheists condemn this idea for the same reason. 
If we
consider the role of yoga, it is apparent that most meditating Westerners are
functionally ignorant about the nature, range, depth and complexity of yoga
lineages - whether Vedic, Hindu, Buddhist or Jain. Most of them do not know the
difference between Vedic, Puranic and Tantric lineages of practice. They also
do not understand how these three streams developed and then intertwined into
Hindu temple rites. They don't know vidhi from vedi.*
(*vidhi is a
specific method of puja. Vedi is the altar used in yajña. )
Even more
surprising, most swamis and imported "yogis" are not Pandits, Indologists,
or Sanskritists. Very few are formally educated in the yoga traditions of the
Indian subcontinent. Most are only trained in asa

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[Bhairitu]

Devotional practices such as "bhakti" are also just tools.  The ancient 
yogis needed a way to explain the laws of nature and the universe 
(physics) to simple folks.  So they used metaphors.


I was going to mention this in the thread about "quiet time" because the 
mantras really aren't "names of Hindu gods" but just vibratory sounds 
that have some effect.  The problem I have with TM and the way MMY went 
about the teaching was hiding so much of what was behind it and the fact 
that the beej mantras given won't actually "work for anyone".  It's a 
much broader science than that.  And then there is the profiteering 
issue which even Charlie Lutes had a problem with back in the day.


On 03/25/2014 05:15 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:


As Mark Landau told me, TM is actually a Hindu devotional practice, so 
I guess it qualifies as japa. Marshy himself is quoted in the old 
Hermit inthe House book as saying the mantras are the names of gods. 
He also equates TM with prayer in the book Meditations of Maharish 
Mahesh Yogi and given the fact that Marshy told hundreds of lies over 
decades of time, it ain't much of a stretch to know that he lied about 
the mantras in many ways including in the early days his claiming that 
each individual received a carefully chosen mantra when in fact he was 
giving raam to everyone who came to him.

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[Bhairitu]

Of course there are no such things as "Hindu gods".  They are metaphors 
for laws of physics.  As I have mentioned many times on FFL, this was so 
beautifully put at a talk given at a performance at a Katakali dance 
theater in Cochin.


I like to call mantras "resonance patterns" because they resonate with 
certain areas of the body and cause changes not only in consciousness 
but also in metabolic functioning.  They are indeed as said by the yogi 
you quote "useful tools."


I have also provided an example in the terms of the simple beej mantras 
that are used in ayurveda.  The next time folks folks feel a little 
mentally foggy they should try repeating the mantra "hoom" or "hoong".  
It's vibration is centered in the area of the brain and will help clear 
the mind as it is a kapha reducing mantra.


On 03/25/2014 05:02 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:


Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former 
TM’ers who stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived 
about the "meaning" of mantras.


Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. 
The claim is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for 
worshiping a Hindu god but that this fact is withheld from 
practitioners. Within the domain of this argument, these claimants 
will often quote some text from a Hindu Tantra. These quotes are 
passages usually assigning a particular deity to a particular mantra 
and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of the Sanskrit 
letters composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. This 
textual assignment is often done quite haphazardly but occasionally is 
done in the Vedic format of rishi-deva-chhanda.


Along with the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by 
MMY, declaring that a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This 
argument quotes the TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the 
beneficial effects it produces in causing the spontaneous refinement 
of perception. This explanation is then paraded as an example of 
shameful exploitation of Western ignorance of the "Hindu" foundation 
of TM and of any other Indian meditation that does not confess itself 
as a form of "Hindu devotionalism". This devotionalist criticism is 
further paraded around by pointing to various Indian swamis and 
cross-eyed yogis who make these claims and arguments themselves.


Here are some considerations about these claims:

SBS taught in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the 
West. They both taught within the context of the Indian Hindu cultural 
model. Although they taught in India, where there are many Muslims, 
they did not present their teaching within a Muslim cultural model. 
Although Buddhism is from India and many Indians consider Buddha as 
one of their own, neither SBS nor MMY taught within a Buddhist 
cultural model. Rather, they taught within the cultural context of 
their listeners.


After coming to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within 
the Indian cultural model - for a while. It was the teaching model 
established by Vivekananda and Paramahansa Yogananda – partly 
religious, partly philosophical and partly yogic. However, the 
cultural context of this form of teachings was the 19^th and 20^th 
century paradigm of Western Modernity.


When MMY realized the limitations brought by this model and the 
limitations of religious language here in the West he took a left 
turn. That divergence left some of his teachers behind - Charlie Lutts 
being an example.


This is one reason that pointing to early religious language by MMY or 
SBS is an inaccurate over-simplification.


As far as the “it is all a deceit” claimants, the two groups that are 
the most antagonist and strident are the materialists and the 
religionists. Materialists claim mantras are the mumbo formulas of 
hindoo gods and that the concept of gods/god is a false idea 
propounded by power brokers to enslave the masses. This is a truncated 
Marxist view popular among the half-educated.


Contrary to this, the fundamentalist religions claim that mantras are 
secret demonic traps devised to enslave us to hindoo devils. This is 
the view of true-believing adherents of the Abrahamic religions – 
Jews, Christians and Muslims. This is not some fundamentalist diatribe 
from TV evangelicals. This was the original view of Christians from 
the second century C.E. forward and was used as an ideological 
propellant for killing polytheists after Constantine’s ascent to Roman 
power.


What is obvious is that both groups are unable to rationally consider 
the facts because they are ideologues entrenched in /a priori 
/conclusions.One example of this is a clear demarcation about the 
difference between yoga and religion. Materialists dismiss such an 
idea because yoga historically emerged within in a Hindu cultural 
context. Semitic monotheists condemn this idea for the same reason.


If we consider the role of yoga, it is apparent that most medi

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[Michael Jackson]

its a Hindu devotional practice designed to pull the favor of particular 
goddesses to the practitioner - call it what you like - the TMO does, so you 
can call it anything that it is not, as is the TMO's tradition.

On Tue, 3/25/14, authfri...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014, 1:37 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Are you sure Mark
 is correct, Michael? Because TM is definitely
 not japa. I would give far more credence to
 emptybill (who is by no means a TM TB blissninny) than I
 would to Mark when it comes to technical knowledge about
 meditation and mantras.
 What
 exactly is Maharishi quoted as saying in
 "Hermit in the House"? I ask because in Beacon
 Light of the Himalayas, he says the bija mantras
 are "the mantras of personal gods," not "the
 names of personal gods." But TM critics tend to
 overlook that distinction.
 
 As Mark Landau
 told me, TM is actually a Hindu devotional practice, so I
 guess it qualifies as japa. Marshy himself is quoted in the
 old Hermit inthe House book as saying the mantras are the
 names of gods. He also equates TM with prayer in the book
 Meditations of Maharish Mahesh Yogi and given the fact that
 Marshy told hundreds of lies over decades of time, it
 ain't much of a stretch to know that he lied about the
 mantras in many ways including in the early days his
 claiming that each individual received a carefully chosen
 mantra when in fact he was giving raam to everyone who came
 to him.
 
  On Tue, 3/25/14, emptybill@... 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully
 arrogant stupidity
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014, 12:02 PM
 
 
 Recently I
 
 have read here on FFL an argument professed by former
 
 TM’ers who stopped
 
 practicing because they claimed they were deceived about
 the
 
 "meaning" of mantras. 
 
 
 
 Their
 
 fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu
 
 god. The claim is that
 
 a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for
 
 worshiping a Hindu god but
 
 that this fact is withheld from practitioners. Within the
 
 domain of this
 
 argument, these claimants will often quote some text from a
 
 Hindu Tantra. These
 
 quotes are passages usually assigning a particular deity to
 
 a particular mantra
 
 and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of
 the
 
 Sanskrit letters
 
 composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. This
 
 textual assignment is often
 
 done quite haphazardly but occasionally is done in the
 Vedic
 
 format of
 
 rishi-deva-chhanda.
 
 
 
 Along with
 
 the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by
 
 MMY, declaring that
 
 a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This
 
 argument quotes the
 
 TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the beneficial
 
 effects it produces in
 
 causing the spontaneous refinement of perception. This
 
 explanation is then
 
 paraded as an example of shameful exploitation of Western
 
 ignorance of the
 
 "Hindu" foundation of TM and of any other Indian
 
 meditation that does
 
 not confess itself as a form of "Hindu
 
 devotionalism". This
 
 devotionalist criticism is further paraded around by
 
 pointing to various Indian
 
 swamis and cross-eyed yogis who make these claims and
 
 arguments themselves.
 
 
 
 Here are some
 
 considerations about these claims:
 
 
 
 SBS taught
 
 in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the
 
 West. They both
 
 taught within the context of the Indian Hindu cultural
 
 model. Although they
 
 taught in India, where there are many Muslims, they did not
 
 present their
 
 teaching within a Muslim cultural model. Although Buddhism
 
 is from India and
 
 many Indians consider Buddha as one of their own, neither
 
 SBS nor MMY taught
 
 within a Buddhist cultural model. Rather, they taught
 within
 
 the cultural
 
 context of their listeners.
 
 
 
 After coming
 
 to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within the
 
 Indian cultural
 
 model - for a while. It was the teaching model established
 
 by Vivekananda and
 
 Paramahansa Yogananda – partly religious, partly
 
 philosophical and partly
 
 yogic. However, the cultural context of this form of
 
 teachings was the 19th
 
 and 20th century paradigm of Western
 
 Modernity. 
 
 
 
 When MMY
 
 realized the limitations brought by this model and the
 
 limitations of religious
 
 language here in the West he took a left turn. That
 
 divergence left some of his
 
 teachers behind - Charlie Lutts being an example.
 
 
 
 This is one
 
 reason that pointing to early religious language by MMY or
 
 SBS is an inaccurate
 
 over-simplif

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[authfriend]

Are you sure Mark is correct, Michael? Because TM is definitely not japa. I 
would give far more credence to emptybill (who is by no means a TM TB 
blissninny) than I would to Mark when it comes to technical knowledge about 
meditation and mantras. 

 What exactly is Maharishi quoted as saying in "Hermit in the House"? I ask 
because in Beacon Light of the Himalayas, he says the bija mantras are "the 
mantras of personal gods," not "the names of personal gods." But TM critics 
tend to overlook that distinction.
 

 

 As Mark Landau told me, TM is actually a Hindu devotional practice, so I guess 
it qualifies as japa. Marshy himself is quoted in the old Hermit inthe House 
book as saying the mantras are the names of gods. He also equates TM with 
prayer in the book Meditations of Maharish Mahesh Yogi and given the fact that 
Marshy told hundreds of lies over decades of time, it ain't much of a stretch 
to know that he lied about the mantras in many ways including in the early days 
his claiming that each individual received a carefully chosen mantra when in 
fact he was giving raam to everyone who came to him.
 
 On Tue, 3/25/14, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014, 12:02 PM

 Recently I
 have read here on FFL an argument professed by former
 TM’ers who stopped
 practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the
 "meaning" of mantras. 
 
 Their
 fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu
 god. The claim is that
 a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for
 worshiping a Hindu god but
 that this fact is withheld from practitioners. Within the
 domain of this
 argument, these claimants will often quote some text from a
 Hindu Tantra. These
 quotes are passages usually assigning a particular deity to
 a particular mantra
 and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of the
 Sanskrit letters
 composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. This
 textual assignment is often
 done quite haphazardly but occasionally is done in the Vedic
 format of
 rishi-deva-chhanda.
 
 Along with
 the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by
 MMY, declaring that
 a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This
 argument quotes the
 TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the beneficial
 effects it produces in
 causing the spontaneous refinement of perception. This
 explanation is then
 paraded as an example of shameful exploitation of Western
 ignorance of the
 "Hindu" foundation of TM and of any other Indian
 meditation that does
 not confess itself as a form of "Hindu
 devotionalism". This
 devotionalist criticism is further paraded around by
 pointing to various Indian
 swamis and cross-eyed yogis who make these claims and
 arguments themselves.
 
 Here are some
 considerations about these claims:
 
 SBS taught
 in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the
 West. They both
 taught within the context of the Indian Hindu cultural
 model. Although they
 taught in India, where there are many Muslims, they did not
 present their
 teaching within a Muslim cultural model. Although Buddhism
 is from India and
 many Indians consider Buddha as one of their own, neither
 SBS nor MMY taught
 within a Buddhist cultural model. Rather, they taught within
 the cultural
 context of their listeners.
 
 After coming
 to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within the
 Indian cultural
 model - for a while. It was the teaching model established
 by Vivekananda and
 Paramahansa Yogananda – partly religious, partly
 philosophical and partly
 yogic. However, the cultural context of this form of
 teachings was the 19th
 and 20th century paradigm of Western
 Modernity. 
 
 When MMY
 realized the limitations brought by this model and the
 limitations of religious
 language here in the West he took a left turn. That
 divergence left some of his
 teachers behind - Charlie Lutts being an example.
 
 This is one
 reason that pointing to early religious language by MMY or
 SBS is an inaccurate
 over-simplification. 
 
 As far as
 the “it is all a deceit” claimants, the two groups that
 are the most antagonist
 and strident are the materialists and the religionists.
 Materialists claim
 mantras are the mumbo formulas of hindoo gods and that the
 concept of gods/god
 is a false idea propounded by power brokers to enslave the
 masses. This is a
 truncated Marxist view popular among the
 half-educated.
 
 Contrary to
 this, the fundamentalist religions claim that mantras are
 secret demonic traps
 devised to enslave us to hindoo devils. This is the view of
 true-believing
 adherents of the Abrahamic religions – Jews, Christians
 and Muslims. This is

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[Michael Jackson]

As Mark Landau told me, TM is actually a Hindu devotional practice, so I guess 
it qualifies as japa. Marshy himself is quoted in the old Hermit inthe House 
book as saying the mantras are the names of gods. He also equates TM with 
prayer in the book Meditations of Maharish Mahesh Yogi and given the fact that 
Marshy told hundreds of lies over decades of time, it ain't much of a stretch 
to know that he lied about the mantras in many ways including in the early days 
his claiming that each individual received a carefully chosen mantra when in 
fact he was giving raam to everyone who came to him.

On Tue, 3/25/14, emptyb...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014, 12:02 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 Recently I
 have read here on FFL an argument professed by former
 TM’ers who stopped
 practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the
 "meaning" of mantras. 
 
 Their
 fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu
 god. The claim is that
 a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for
 worshiping a Hindu god but
 that this fact is withheld from practitioners. Within the
 domain of this
 argument, these claimants will often quote some text from a
 Hindu Tantra. These
 quotes are passages usually assigning a particular deity to
 a particular mantra
 and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of the
 Sanskrit letters
 composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. This
 textual assignment is often
 done quite haphazardly but occasionally is done in the Vedic
 format of
 rishi-deva-chhanda.
 
 Along with
 the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by
 MMY, declaring that
 a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This
 argument quotes the
 TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the beneficial
 effects it produces in
 causing the spontaneous refinement of perception. This
 explanation is then
 paraded as an example of shameful exploitation of Western
 ignorance of the
 "Hindu" foundation of TM and of any other Indian
 meditation that does
 not confess itself as a form of "Hindu
 devotionalism". This
 devotionalist criticism is further paraded around by
 pointing to various Indian
 swamis and cross-eyed yogis who make these claims and
 arguments themselves.
 
 Here are some
 considerations about these claims:
 
 SBS taught
 in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the
 West. They both
 taught within the context of the Indian Hindu cultural
 model. Although they
 taught in India, where there are many Muslims, they did not
 present their
 teaching within a Muslim cultural model. Although Buddhism
 is from India and
 many Indians consider Buddha as one of their own, neither
 SBS nor MMY taught
 within a Buddhist cultural model. Rather, they taught within
 the cultural
 context of their listeners.
 
 After coming
 to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within the
 Indian cultural
 model - for a while. It was the teaching model established
 by Vivekananda and
 Paramahansa Yogananda – partly religious, partly
 philosophical and partly
 yogic. However, the cultural context of this form of
 teachings was the 19th
 and 20th century paradigm of Western
 Modernity. 
 
 When MMY
 realized the limitations brought by this model and the
 limitations of religious
 language here in the West he took a left turn. That
 divergence left some of his
 teachers behind - Charlie Lutts being an example.
 
 This is one
 reason that pointing to early religious language by MMY or
 SBS is an inaccurate
 over-simplification. 
 
 As far as
 the “it is all a deceit” claimants, the two groups that
 are the most antagonist
 and strident are the materialists and the religionists.
 Materialists claim
 mantras are the mumbo formulas of hindoo gods and that the
 concept of gods/god
 is a false idea propounded by power brokers to enslave the
 masses. This is a
 truncated Marxist view popular among the
 half-educated.
 
 Contrary to
 this, the fundamentalist religions claim that mantras are
 secret demonic traps
 devised to enslave us to hindoo devils. This is the view of
 true-believing
 adherents of the Abrahamic religions – Jews, Christians
 and Muslims. This is
 not some fundamentalist diatribe from TV evangelicals. This
 was the original
 view of Christians from the second century C.E. forward and
 was used as an ideological
 propellant for killing polytheists after Constantine’s
 ascent to Roman
 power.    
 
 What is
 obvious is that both groups are unable to rationally
 consider the facts because
 they are ideologues entrenched in a priori
 conclusions.  One example of this is a
 clear demarcation
 about the difference between yoga and religion. Materialists
 dismiss such an
 idea because yoga his

[FairfieldLife] No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity

[emptybill]

Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former TM’ers who 
stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived about the "meaning" 
of mantras. 
 Their fundamental claim is that a mantra is the name of a Hindu god. The claim 
is that a mantra, by definition, encapsulates a method for worshiping a Hindu 
god but that this fact is withheld from practitioners. Within the domain of 
this argument, these claimants will often quote some text from a Hindu Tantra. 
These quotes are passages usually assigning a particular deity to a particular 
mantra and sometimes even assigning a set of deities to each of the Sanskrit 
letters composing the written forms of the mantra’s sound. This textual 
assignment is often done quite haphazardly but occasionally is done in the 
Vedic format of rishi-deva-chhanda.
 Along with the quoted Tantric text is sometimes a quoted statement by MMY, 
declaring that a mantra is a "sound whose effect is known". This argument 
quotes the TMO claim that a mantra is used in TM for the beneficial effects it 
produces in causing the spontaneous refinement of perception. This explanation 
is then paraded as an example of shameful exploitation of Western ignorance of 
the "Hindu" foundation of TM and of any other Indian meditation that does not 
confess itself as a form of "Hindu devotionalism". This devotionalist criticism 
is further paraded around by pointing to various Indian swamis and cross-eyed 
yogis who make these claims and arguments themselves.
 Here are some considerations about these claims:
 SBS taught in India. MMY began teaching in India before coming to the West. 
They both taught within the context of the Indian Hindu cultural model. 
Although they taught in India, where there are many Muslims, they did not 
present their teaching within a Muslim cultural model. Although Buddhism is 
from India and many Indians consider Buddha as one of their own, neither SBS 
nor MMY taught within a Buddhist cultural model. Rather, they taught within the 
cultural context of their listeners.
 After coming to the West, MMY continued speaking and teaching within the 
Indian cultural model - for a while. It was the teaching model established by 
Vivekananda and Paramahansa Yogananda – partly religious, partly philosophical 
and partly yogic. However, the cultural context of this form of teachings was 
the 19th and 20th century paradigm of Western Modernity. 
 When MMY realized the limitations brought by this model and the limitations of 
religious language here in the West he took a left turn. That divergence left 
some of his teachers behind - Charlie Lutts being an example.
 This is one reason that pointing to early religious language by MMY or SBS is 
an inaccurate over-simplification. 
 As far as the “it is all a deceit” claimants, the two groups that are the most 
antagonist and strident are the materialists and the religionists. Materialists 
claim mantras are the mumbo formulas of hindoo gods and that the concept of 
gods/god is a false idea propounded by power brokers to enslave the masses. 
This is a truncated Marxist view popular among the half-educated.
 Contrary to this, the fundamentalist religions claim that mantras are secret 
demonic traps devised to enslave us to hindoo devils. This is the view of 
true-believing adherents of the Abrahamic religions – Jews, Christians and 
Muslims. This is not some fundamentalist diatribe from TV evangelicals. This 
was the original view of Christians from the second century C.E. forward and 
was used as an ideological propellant for killing polytheists after 
Constantine’s ascent to Roman power.
 What is obvious is that both groups are unable to rationally consider the 
facts because they are ideologues entrenched in a priori conclusions.  One 
example of this is a clear demarcation about the difference between yoga and 
religion. Materialists dismiss such an idea because yoga historically emerged 
within in a Hindu cultural context. Semitic monotheists condemn this idea for 
the same reason. 
 If we consider the role of yoga, it is apparent that most meditating 
Westerners are functionally ignorant about the nature, range, depth and 
complexity of yoga lineages - whether Vedic, Hindu, Buddhist or Jain. Most of 
them do not know the difference between Vedic, Puranic and Tantric lineages of 
practice. They also do not understand how these three streams developed and 
then intertwined into Hindu temple rites. They don't know vidhi from vedi.*
 (*vidhi is a specific method of puja. Vedi is the altar used in yajña. )
 Even more surprising, most swamis and imported "yogis" are not Pandits, 
Indologists, or Sanskritists. Very few are formally educated in the yoga 
traditions of the Indian subcontinent. Most are only trained in asana, pranayam 
and japa.  A little bhakti here, a few Upanishad citations there and "om tat 
sat" - I’m a guru.
 Faced with this, most of us Westerners who meditate are at a disadvantage when 
prese

[FairfieldLife] No need for Pundits in Fairfield.

[yifuxero]

In India, yes - the collective efforts of countless Pundits are keeping the 
world from complete disaster. But in Fairfield, no.  They're being held 
captive.  They should become Mormons.
 ...
 Just use Youtube to access any number of bhajans, aarti, and pujas to the 
Vedic Gods.
 ...
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XShAZAcan8 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XShAZAcan8

[FairfieldLife] No harmony and counterpoint, and stuff!

[cardemaister]

Ravi Shankar on Indian classical music: 
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al1q01CZgtc 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al1q01CZgtc

[FairfieldLife] No Kia has the edge?

[cardemaister]

https://www.abiresearch.com/press/nsn-has-the-edge-in-the-race-to-a-2018-us-9-billio?goback=.nmp_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1
 
 

 London, United Kingdom - 11 Dec 2013
 
 With the explosion in mobile data traffic, operators struggle to provide the 
data services that their customers desire. ABI Research forecasts that mobile 
monitoring and optimization equipment revenue will increase to over $9 billion 
by 2018 and operators can remain competitive by continuously providing their 
customers with high performance data services even with congested networks.
 Research analyst, Sabir Rafiq comments, “Mobile operators are feeling the 
squeeze on data capacity, and with solutions such as Self-Optimizing Networks 
(SON) and Wi-Fi offloading they can assure that their customers receive the 
best possible service at all times.”
 NSN = Nokia Solutions and Networks?
 

[FairfieldLife] NO MORE! Coming October 16 - JFAN Annual Meeting

[Rick Archer]

LYNN HENNING . CHARLIE SPEER . RICHARD MIDDLETON

NO MORE!
How One Woman and a Team of Lawyers Are Helping Neighbors Stand Up to
Factory Farms

Jefferson County Farmers & Neighbors, Inc. Annual Meeting

Wednesday, October 16 . 7:30 pm
Fairfield Arts & Convention Center 

This year's annual meeting is especially timely given the expansion of
factory farming in Iowa. 

Lynn Henning, Charlie Speer and Richard Middleton will present what Iowans
can do to push back against factory farms.

LYNN HENNING is a fireball of activism and the winner of the 2010 Goldman
Environmental Prize for North America. Her work led to hundreds of fines
levied against Michigan CAFOs for water quality violations and put her in
the national spotlight. She was featured in the documentary Last Call at the
Oasis  , appeared on Real Time
with Bill Maher, and her work is profiled in main stream media outlets such
as Oprah's O Magazine
  and the Christian Science Monitor.
  

CHARLIE SPEER and RICHARD MIDDLETON are awe-inspiring, award-winning
environmental litigators
 , protecting neighbors
against loss of quality of life, and winning multi-million dollar
settlements and verdicts against CAFO owners and integrators. Their wins
include a $4.5 million verdict for six Missouri neighbors, an $11 million
verdict for 15 family farmers, and a confidential settlement for 287
Missouri plaintiffs all against Premium Standard Farms. They are currently
representing nearly 600 plaintiffs against Smithfield Foods in North
Carolina and have clients in 7 states, including 4 in Jefferson County.

Jim Rubis, president of JFAN, will present a summary of JFAN's activities.

A Question and Answer session will follow.

We thank our community partners, solar powered Leopold Group Sierra Club,
solar-powered KRUU-100.1 FM, Sustainable Living Coalition, Radish Magazine,
and Little Village Magazine for co-sponsoring this event.

Thank you to all our corporate sponsors: Greenfield Properties . Maharishi
Ayurveda Products International, Inc. . Radiance Dairy . David E. Sykes, PC
. My Therapy Company . Tim and Laya Schaetzel Hawthorne . ARC Films .
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Control Systems . Balmer Nelson Van Mersbergen Accounting Services . Leopold
Group Sierra Club . Green Gourmet . The Organic and Non-GMO Report:
Information to ensure a safe, healthy, and sustainable food supply . Radiant
Health Imaging . Dr. Amber Fekete . Heartland Insurance Solutions . Global
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Re: [FairfieldLife] No Chopra meditation without Maharishi

[Michael Jackson]

by that thinking everyone who ever did anything owes it to Big M if the person 
ever did TM - Chopra was expressing an emotional feeling for a man who vibed 
him with his natural charisma - Chopra and his former TM teacher like Roger 
Gabriel went to India to find another set of useful mantras to use for 
meditation instruction. Marshy could have had ALL the credit had he been 
willing to provide TM teachers for Deepak, but since Deepak wasn't doing to toe 
the like like M wanted him too, Marshy was being his usual spiteful self when 
he didn't get his way - Deepak made his own way with out M very nicely.





 From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 10:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] No Chopra meditation without Maharishi
 


  
I understood the difference, what Im pointing out is if someone here thinks 
they got enlightened by Chopra's meditation technique and they don't owe a debt 
to Maharishi for that they are mistaken based on what Chopra himself has said.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> Well, he rewrote _Quantum Healing_, which was originally about the Primordial 
> Sound Technique, which has nothing to do with Primordial Sound Meditation, to 
> make it all about the latter. While he was at it, he deleted all references 
> to Maharishi, and how Maharishi had taught him the Primordial Sound Technique 
> and how to teach it, and actually asked him to write the book _Quantum 
> Healing_ in order to  explain how it might work, but other than minor details 
> like that, yes, Chopra is quite honest about it...
> 
> L
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> >
> > Chopra has made it very clear he would be nothing without Maharishi, there 
> > would certainly have been no primordial sound meditation. 
> > At least he is honest about it unlike certain others.
> > 
> > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/the-maharishi-years-the-u_b_86412.html
> >
>


 

[FairfieldLife] No Chopra meditation without Maharishi

[srijau]

I understood the difference, what Im pointing out is if someone here thinks 
they got enlightened by Chopra's meditation technique and they don't owe a debt 
to Maharishi for that they are mistaken based on what Chopra himself has said.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> Well, he rewrote _Quantum Healing_, which was originally about the Primordial 
> Sound Technique, which has nothing to do with Primordial Sound Meditation, to 
> make it all about the latter. While he was at it, he deleted all references 
> to Maharishi, and how Maharishi had taught him the Primordial Sound Technique 
> and how to teach it, and actually asked him to write the book _Quantum 
> Healing_ in order to  explain how it might work, but other than minor details 
> like that, yes, Chopra is quite honest about it...
> 
> L
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> >
> > Chopra has made it very clear he would be nothing without Maharishi, there 
> > would certainly have been no primordial sound meditation. 
> > At least he is honest about it unlike certain others.
> > 
> > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/the-maharishi-years-the-u_b_86412.html
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] No Superstition Here

[mjackson74]

FROM THE TIMES OF INDIA

Vaastu tips for your home's main entrance
TNN Jul 29, 2013, 12.00AM IST

The entrance of the house brings in the main energy. Read on to find out more 
about the vaastu of the main entrance

The main entrance of the house is one of the most important areas. Dr Snehal S 
Deshpande, Advanced Feng Shui & Pyravastu Consultant tells us more about it. 
The main entrance is the mouth of a house which brings in main energy and here 
are certain rules about the dos and don'ts regarding the door.

Avoid a property which has a door facing South West as it is the entry of the 
devil energy and brings in struggles and misfortunes. If the wealth energy as 
per advanced Feng Shui of that house is good, the occupant may prosper during 
initial 3-4 years. But then may face a down fall. If your house already has a 
door facing South West, fix 2 Hanumanji's tiles ( with the Gada in his left 
hand) outside the door & see the difference. Certain gems like Yellow Sapphire, 
Earth Crystals, Lead with the Expert's advice can also further reduce the 
severity of this defect. But it is always better to avoid such properties.

The door facing South East is said to be a door which brings in illness, anger 
and court matters. wo stickers of Gayatri Mantra should be fixed on both the 
sides of the door from outside. Use of gems like Coral, Yellow Sapphire etc. 
and copper with a proper advice will further reduce the defects of this door.

South facing door brings in sharp energy which disturbs positive energy field 
of the house. Door here means a highly active social life. Some times it may 
bring in arguments or disagreements. Again fixing two above mentioned 
Hanumanji's tiles outside the door will help. It can further be protected by 
using lead, cat's eye etc. But this door if it is in fourth Pada is very good 
for an occupant.

West facing door is also not bad for the youngsters as it has an active energy 
& energy of enjoyment. That is why in Japan, Geisha houses are always facing 
west.

North West facing door is not so bad. It can bring in health, wealth and 
prosperity if supported by other vastu rules. Only thing that the main male 
member of the house may remain out of the house for a longer time if the door 
faces west and a female if the door faces North.

Normally doors facing East, North, North East are said to be good doors. But 
again there are many other things like Cuts, Extensions, Under Ground Water 
Tanks, Feng Shui (Flying Stars Chart ) of the house which decide the wealth and 
health of the occupant. A few words on these topics some other time.

[FairfieldLife] No "proof of heaven"

[authfriend]

At least, not from Eben Alexander, author of the
bestselling book "Proof of Heaven," about his purported
extended near-death experience during surgery. It seems
he may have perpetrated a scam for fame and fortune.

An article in Esquire researched his background and found,
among other things, that he wasn't such a good neurosurgeon.
He was let go from more than one hospital position and was
fighting five different malpractice lawsuits when he became
ill. He also misrepresented the course of his treatment,
according to one of his physicians.

The Esquire article is behind a paywall (you can read it for
two bucks; I haven't), but there have been several stories
about what the article found; here's one:

http://news.yahoo.com/proof-heaven-author-now-thoroughly-debunked-science-131711093.html

http://tinyurl.com/k5vblh7

[FairfieldLife] No more X-files!

[salyavin808]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22991014

[FairfieldLife] No Kia: saved in Dia?

[card]

http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/05/nokia-corporation-adr-nok-lumia-sales-impressive-in-india-elop/

Still possible to buy NOK < 4 bucks??

[FairfieldLife] No Flux Capacitor in Iran...

[salyavin808]

Boo.Iran: No, We Don't Have a 'Time Machine'
   By Lee Ferran | ABC News – Fri, Apr 12,
2013 1:11 PM EDT
*  [Iran: No, We Don't Have a 'Time Machine' (ABC News)] 







In a shocking revelation that's sure to disappoint "Back to the Future"
fans around the globe, an Iranian official has been forced to deny that
an inventor from the Islamic nation has registered a "time machine" with
the state.

"Making scientific claims is free for all, but registration of these
claims as inventions should undergo certain legal stages based on
scientific proofs and evidence," Iran's Deputy Minister of Science,
Research and Technology Mohammad Mehdinejad Nouri said today, according
to Iran's semi-officialFars News Agency. "Such a claim has not been
registered in Iran's State Organization for Registration for Strategic
Inventions."

Nouri's announcement in Fars - also reported by Iran's PressTV - came
days after Fars ran a bizarre story
  in which 27-year-old Iranian inventor Ali Razeqi
reportedly claimed to have registered the "Aryayek Time Traveling
Machine." The young man's definition of "time travel" is a far reach
fromMarty McFly's, however, as he said his device is only meant to allow
the user to predict the "next five to eight years of the life of its
users" with up to 98 percent accuracy.

"It will not take you into the future, it will bring the future to you,"
Razeqi said, according to today's Fars report. No flux capacitor here.

Razeqi's original story, which appeared on Fars' Farsi-language site,
mysteriously vanished from the web Thursday, according to The Washington
Post
 , but not before it gained a curious following on social media
and with some skeptical Western news outlets - apparently enough to
prompt Nouri's public response.

Foreign Policy noted
  that beyond the major claim of the original article
about a watered-down "time machine," some of the details in the report
raised enough questions that their reporter concluded, "If this story is
true at all, it's actually just about one obscure crank saying
ridiculous things - a phenomenon hardly unique to Iran."

[FairfieldLife] No need to visit London....

[salyavin808]

It's all here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/interactive/2013/feb/01/view-from-top-shard-london-interactive

Re: [FairfieldLife] No god required.....

[Bhairitu]

On 01/08/2013 08:39 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
>
>
>
> Why God Did Not Create the Universe.
> There is a sound scientific explanation for the making of our
> world—no gods required
> By STEPHEN HAWKING And LEONARD MLODINOW
> According to Viking mythology, eclipses occur when two wolves, Skoll and
> Hati, catch the sun or moon. At the onset of an eclipse people would
> make lots of noise, hoping to scare the wolves away. After some time,
> people must have noticed that the eclipses ended regardless of whether
> they ran around banging on pots.
> Ignorance of nature's ways led people in ancient times to postulate many
> myths in an effort to make sense of their world. But eventually, people
> turned to philosophy, that is, to the use of reason—with a good dose
> of intuition—to decipher their universe. Today we use reason,
> mathematics and experimental test—in other words, modern science.
> Albert Einstein said, "The most incomprehensible thing about the
> universe is that it is comprehensible." He meant that, unlike our homes
> on a bad day, the universe is not just a conglomeration of objects each
> going its own way. Everything in the universe follows laws, without
> exception.
> Newton believed that our strangely habitable solar system did not "arise
> out of chaos by the mere laws of nature." Instead, he maintained that
> the order in the universe was "created by God at first and conserved by
> him to this Day in the same state and condition." The discovery recently
> of the extreme fine-tuning of so many laws of nature could lead some
> back to the idea that this grand design is the work of some grand
> Designer. Yet the latest advances in cosmology explain why the laws of
> the universe seem tailor-made for humans, without the need for a
> benevolent creator.
> Many improbable occurrences conspired to create Earth's human-friendly
> design, and they would indeed be puzzling if ours were the only solar
> system in the universe. But today we know of hundreds of other solar
> systems, and few doubt that there exist countless more among the
> billions of stars in our galaxy. Planets of all sorts exist, and
> obviously, when the beings on a planet that supports life examine the
> world around them, they are bound to find that their environment
> satisfies the conditions they require to exist.
> It is possible to turn that last statement into a scientific principle:
> The fact of our being restricts the characteristics of the kind of
> environment in which we find ourselves. For example, if we did not know
> the distance from the Earth to the sun, the fact that beings like us
> exist would allow us to put bounds on how small or great the Earth-sun
> separation could be. We need liquid water to exist, and if the Earth
> were too close, it would all boil off; if it were too far, it would
> freeze. That principle is called the "weak" anthropic principle.
> The weak anthropic principle is not very controversial. But there is a
> stronger form that is regarded with disdain among some physicists. The
> strong anthropic principle suggests that the fact that we exist imposes
> constraints, not just on our environment, but on the possible form and
> content of the laws of nature themselves.
> The idea arose because it is not only the peculiar characteristics of
> our solar system that seem oddly conducive to the development of human
> life, but also the characteristics of our entire universe—and its
> laws. They appear to have a design that is both tailor-made to support
> us and, if we are to exist, leaves little room for alteration. That is
> much more difficult to explain.
> The tale of how the primordial universe of hydrogen, helium and a bit of
> lithium evolved to a universe harboring at least one world with
> intelligent life like us is a tale of many chapters. The forces of
> nature had to be such that heavier elements—especially
> carbon—could be produced from the primordial elements, and remain
> stable for at least billions of years. Those heavy elements were formed
> in the furnaces we call stars, so the forces first had to allow stars
> and galaxies to form. Those in turn grew from the seeds of tiny
> inhomogeneities in the early universe.
> Even all that is not enough: The dynamics of the stars had to be such
> that some would eventually explode, precisely in a way that could
> disperse the heavier elements through space. In addition, the laws of
> nature had to dictate that those remnants could recondense into a new
> generation of stars, these surrounded by planets incorporating the newly
> formed heavy elements.
> By examining the model universes we generate when the theories of
> physics are altered in certain ways, one can study the effect of changes
> to physical law in a methodical manner. Such calculations show that a
> change of as little as 0.5% in the strength of the strong nuclear force,
> or 4% in the electric force, would destroy either nearly all carbon or
> all oxygen in every star, and he

Re: [FairfieldLife] No god required.....

[Share Long]

Salya, I do wonder why they say this in the last paragraph:
Each universe has many possible histories and many possible states. Only a very 
few would allow creatures like us to exist. 
I wonder why they think only a few would allow creatures like us to exist.  
Especially given the sentence just before!  As Spock would say:
Their logic is flawed.





 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] No god required.
 

  






Why God Did Not Create the Universe.

There is a sound scientific explanation for the making of our world—no gods 
required

By STEPHEN HAWKING And LEONARD MLODINOW

According to Viking mythology, eclipses occur when two wolves, Skoll and Hati, 
catch the sun or moon. At the onset of an eclipse people would make lots of 
noise, hoping to scare the wolves away. After some time, people must have 
noticed that the eclipses ended regardless of whether they ran around banging 
on pots.

Ignorance of nature's ways led people in ancient times to postulate many myths 
in an effort to make sense of their world. But eventually, people turned to 
philosophy, that is, to the use of reason—with a good dose of intuition—to 
decipher their universe. Today we use reason, mathematics and experimental 
test—in other words, modern science.

Albert Einstein said, "The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is 
that it is comprehensible." He meant that, unlike our homes on a bad day, the 
universe is not just a conglomeration of objects each going its own way. 
Everything in the universe follows laws, without exception.

Newton believed that our strangely habitable solar system did not "arise out of 
chaos by the mere laws of nature." Instead, he maintained that the order in the 
universe was "created by God at first and conserved by him to this Day in the 
same state and condition." The discovery recently of the extreme fine-tuning of 
so many laws of nature could lead some back to the idea that this grand design 
is the work of some grand Designer. Yet the latest advances in cosmology 
explain why the laws of the universe seem tailor-made for humans, without the 
need for a benevolent creator.

Many improbable occurrences conspired to create Earth's human-friendly design, 
and they would indeed be puzzling if ours were the only solar system in the 
universe. But today we know of hundreds of other solar systems, and few doubt 
that there exist countless more among the billions of stars in our galaxy. 
Planets of all sorts exist, and obviously, when the beings on a planet that 
supports life examine the world around them, they are bound to find that their 
environment satisfies the conditions they require to exist.

It is possible to turn that last statement into a scientific principle: The 
fact of our being restricts the characteristics of the kind of environment in 
which we find ourselves. For example, if we did not know the distance from the 
Earth to the sun, the fact that beings like us exist would allow us to put 
bounds on how small or great the Earth-sun separation could be. We need liquid 
water to exist, and if the Earth were too close, it would all boil off; if it 
were too far, it would freeze. That principle is called the "weak" anthropic 
principle.

The weak anthropic principle is not very controversial. But there is a stronger 
form that is regarded with disdain among some physicists. The strong anthropic 
principle suggests that the fact that we exist imposes constraints, not just on 
our environment, but on the possible form and content of the laws of nature 
themselves.

The idea arose because it is not only the peculiar characteristics of our solar 
system that seem oddly conducive to the development of human life, but also the 
characteristics of our entire universe—and its laws. They appear to have a 
design that is both tailor-made to support us and, if we are to exist, leaves 
little room for alteration. That is much more difficult to explain.

The tale of how the primordial universe of hydrogen, helium and a bit of 
lithium evolved to a universe harboring at least one world with intelligent 
life like us is a tale of many chapters. The forces of nature had to be such 
that heavier elements—especially carbon—could be produced from the primordial 
elements, and remain stable for at least billions of years. Those heavy 
elements were formed in the furnaces we call stars, so the forces first had to 
allow stars and galaxies to form. Those in turn grew from the seeds of tiny 
inhomogeneities in the early universe.

Even all that is not enough: The dynamics of the stars had to be such that some 
would eventually explode, precisely in a way that could disperse the heavier 
elements through space. In addition, the laws of nature had to dictate that 
those remnants could recondense into a new generation of stars, th

[FairfieldLife] No god required.....

[salyavin808]

Why God Did Not Create the Universe.
There is a sound scientific explanation for the making of our
world—no gods required
By STEPHEN HAWKING And LEONARD MLODINOW
According to Viking mythology, eclipses occur when two wolves, Skoll and
Hati, catch the sun or moon. At the onset of an eclipse people would
make lots of noise, hoping to scare the wolves away. After some time,
people must have noticed that the eclipses ended regardless of whether
they ran around banging on pots.
Ignorance of nature's ways led people in ancient times to postulate many
myths in an effort to make sense of their world. But eventually, people
turned to philosophy, that is, to the use of reason—with a good dose
of intuition—to decipher their universe. Today we use reason,
mathematics and experimental test—in other words, modern science.
Albert Einstein said, "The most incomprehensible thing about the
universe is that it is comprehensible." He meant that, unlike our homes
on a bad day, the universe is not just a conglomeration of objects each
going its own way. Everything in the universe follows laws, without
exception.
Newton believed that our strangely habitable solar system did not "arise
out of chaos by the mere laws of nature." Instead, he maintained that
the order in the universe was "created by God at first and conserved by
him to this Day in the same state and condition." The discovery recently
of the extreme fine-tuning of so many laws of nature could lead some
back to the idea that this grand design is the work of some grand
Designer. Yet the latest advances in cosmology explain why the laws of
the universe seem tailor-made for humans, without the need for a
benevolent creator.
Many improbable occurrences conspired to create Earth's human-friendly
design, and they would indeed be puzzling if ours were the only solar
system in the universe. But today we know of hundreds of other solar
systems, and few doubt that there exist countless more among the
billions of stars in our galaxy. Planets of all sorts exist, and
obviously, when the beings on a planet that supports life examine the
world around them, they are bound to find that their environment
satisfies the conditions they require to exist.
It is possible to turn that last statement into a scientific principle:
The fact of our being restricts the characteristics of the kind of
environment in which we find ourselves. For example, if we did not know
the distance from the Earth to the sun, the fact that beings like us
exist would allow us to put bounds on how small or great the Earth-sun
separation could be. We need liquid water to exist, and if the Earth
were too close, it would all boil off; if it were too far, it would
freeze. That principle is called the "weak" anthropic principle.
The weak anthropic principle is not very controversial. But there is a
stronger form that is regarded with disdain among some physicists. The
strong anthropic principle suggests that the fact that we exist imposes
constraints, not just on our environment, but on the possible form and
content of the laws of nature themselves.
The idea arose because it is not only the peculiar characteristics of
our solar system that seem oddly conducive to the development of human
life, but also the characteristics of our entire universe—and its
laws. They appear to have a design that is both tailor-made to support
us and, if we are to exist, leaves little room for alteration. That is
much more difficult to explain.
The tale of how the primordial universe of hydrogen, helium and a bit of
lithium evolved to a universe harboring at least one world with
intelligent life like us is a tale of many chapters. The forces of
nature had to be such that heavier elements—especially
carbon—could be produced from the primordial elements, and remain
stable for at least billions of years. Those heavy elements were formed
in the furnaces we call stars, so the forces first had to allow stars
and galaxies to form. Those in turn grew from the seeds of tiny
inhomogeneities in the early universe.
Even all that is not enough: The dynamics of the stars had to be such
that some would eventually explode, precisely in a way that could
disperse the heavier elements through space. In addition, the laws of
nature had to dictate that those remnants could recondense into a new
generation of stars, these surrounded by planets incorporating the newly
formed heavy elements.
By examining the model universes we generate when the theories of
physics are altered in certain ways, one can study the effect of changes
to physical law in a methodical manner. Such calculations show that a
change of as little as 0.5% in the strength of the strong nuclear force,
or 4% in the electric force, would destroy either nearly all carbon or
all oxygen in every star, and hence the possibility of life as we know
it. Also, most of the fundamental constants appearing in our theories
appear fine-tuned in the sense that if they were altered by only modest
amounts, the uni

[FairfieldLife] no Rashtriya Kavacha here

[srijau]

There is no 2ooo group yet in the USA let alone a 25oo Maharishi prescribed. So 
the bad things come as no surprise and there is worse days to come in coming 
months if thats not reached.

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Twinkies Please, We're Dying

[Share Long]

Ok, part of my holiday celebrations and hopefully the guys won't laugh at me 
too much for this:  some friends and I went to see the movie Twilight this 
afternoon.  In Ottumwa, about 30 miles and minutes to the west.  It's like the 
ultimate chic flick, romantic cinematic indulgence to round out the culinary 
indulgence of Thursday.  No shopping yet but mentally I'm making my list for 
the family gifts.

Planning to balance out Twilight with Lincoln or Argo in a couple of weeks.  


laughing because I totally understand your take on other drivers.  How do they 
even pass the driving test?!


Didn't you mention that the Walmart has an east entrance?  Probably that's why 
no riots occurred there (-:




 From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No Twinkies Please, We're Dying
 

  
Well I did wind up going over to my sister's.  She wasn't up for a 
thanksgiving dinner out but my brother-in-law was.  She is somewhat 
incapacitated after her knee gave out in June and had to have surgery 
again.  She preferred that my brother-in-law and I go out.  She doesn't 
like turkey all that much and had a list of things she likes which my 
brother-in-law had picked up for her at a store.

So we had a little fun looking for a restaurant that was actually open 
in their town.  Only a few years ago restaurants were advertising being 
open for Thanskgiving but that seems to be rare these days.  One of our 
favorite places that used to be open on the day was not.  We did find 
one local run eatery that was packed and not able to accommodate us 
until later.  We wound up at Carrow's that was still open.  I noted that 
the advertised "turkey dinner" looked like a TV dinner and made a 
comment that a lot of chains actually have frozen dinners supplied to 
them and the just heat those up.  I opted for a pasta dish instead.

Actually had this been a little more planned out I might have brought a 
butternut squash ravioli dinner from the local grocer because my brother 
is a "vegetarian" and that might suited all of us.  I have the fixin's 
for turkey dinner here from Trader Joe's which I may have today.  But 
often eat turkey dishes so such a dinner isn't anything special.

As I mentioned "the amateurs were out" and the highways filled with 
people probably terrified at driving on a freeway and people who 
probably drive to work frustrated with them.  It makes for an adventure 
game all in itself.  Going home a little after 6 PM, the opposite lane 
south was backed up from an accident.  As I approached home I noted the 
Walmart lot was already full.  No riots there though but don't know 
about today.

People fighting over a deal on smartphones like they are starving and 
fighting over a piece of bread is crazy though.

On 11/23/2012 04:45 AM, Share Long wrote:
> Oy, don't even mention high fructose corn syrup to me.  I started noticing 
> its effects long ago and then became an avid reader of ingredient listings on 
> food items.  As for yesterday, yep I went back for seconds, on the artichoke 
> casserole, and thirds on the sweet potatoes but I got small portions each 
> time.  We also had turkey which I love and mashed potatoes with sauerkraut 
> which is totally yummy the latter perking up the bland taste of the former.  
> I also had some fun in conversation with gasp, another poster from FFL!  In 
> the flesh!
>
>
>
> ________
>   From: Bhairitu 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No Twinkies Please, We're Dying
> 
>
> 
> On 11/22/2012 09:11 AM, Share Long wrote:
>> couldn't not send this gem from Mr. Morford
>>
>>
>> http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2012/11/20/no-twinkies-please/
>>
> Thing is that many sweets and I'm sure a Twinkie which I've not had in
> ages, is probably sweeter than when I was a kid.  Why?  For more profit
> they replace sugar with high fructose corn syrup or "instant
> hypoglycemia".   I was at the store the other day and though I would
> pick up a can of cranberry sauce.  They had Ocean Spray on sale 2 cans
> for $1.  I looked at the ingredients and indeed the sweetener was HFCS.
> Above them on the endcap shelf was the store's organic brand for $1.75
> with "organic sugar."  I decided of course the extra $1.25 would be
> worth it.
>
> People in the US may not be getting fat from eating more fat but because
> a lot of food especially "low fat" foods contain more carbs.  A few
> years back Starbucks carried Kraft cream cheese both regular and low
> fat.  The staff felt so bad about the watery low fat variet

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Twinkies Please, We're Dying

[Bhairitu]

Well I did wind up going over to my sister's.  She wasn't up for a 
thanksgiving dinner out but my brother-in-law was.  She is somewhat 
incapacitated after her knee gave out in June and had to have surgery 
again.  She preferred that my brother-in-law and I go out.  She doesn't 
like turkey all that much and had a list of things she likes which my 
brother-in-law had picked up for her at a store.

So we had a little fun looking for a restaurant that was actually open 
in their town.  Only a few years ago restaurants were advertising being 
open for Thanskgiving but that seems to be rare these days.  One of our 
favorite places that used to be open on the day was not.  We did find 
one local run eatery that was packed and not able to accommodate us 
until later.  We wound up at Carrow's that was still open.  I noted that 
the advertised "turkey dinner" looked like a TV dinner and made a 
comment that a lot of chains actually have frozen dinners supplied to 
them and the just heat those up.  I opted for a pasta dish instead.

Actually had this been a little more planned out I might have brought a 
butternut squash ravioli dinner from the local grocer because my brother 
is a "vegetarian" and that might suited all of us.  I have the fixin's 
for turkey dinner here from Trader Joe's which I may have today.  But 
often eat turkey dishes so such a dinner isn't anything special.

As I mentioned "the amateurs were out" and the highways filled with 
people probably terrified at driving on a freeway and people who 
probably drive to work frustrated with them.  It makes for an adventure 
game all in itself.  Going home a little after 6 PM, the opposite lane 
south was backed up from an accident.  As I approached home I noted the 
Walmart lot was already full.  No riots there though but don't know 
about today.

People fighting over a deal on smartphones like they are starving and 
fighting over a piece of bread is crazy though.

On 11/23/2012 04:45 AM, Share Long wrote:
> Oy, don't even mention high fructose corn syrup to me.  I started noticing 
> its effects long ago and then became an avid reader of ingredient listings on 
> food items.  As for yesterday, yep I went back for seconds, on the artichoke 
> casserole, and thirds on the sweet potatoes but I got small portions each 
> time.  We also had turkey which I love and mashed potatoes with sauerkraut 
> which is totally yummy the latter perking up the bland taste of the former.  
> I also had some fun in conversation with gasp, another poster from FFL!  In 
> the flesh!
>
>
>
> 
>   From: Bhairitu 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No Twinkies Please, We're Dying
>   
>
>
> On 11/22/2012 09:11 AM, Share Long wrote:
>> couldn't not send this gem from Mr. Morford
>>
>>
>> http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2012/11/20/no-twinkies-please/
>>
> Thing is that many sweets and I'm sure a Twinkie which I've not had in
> ages, is probably sweeter than when I was a kid.  Why?  For more profit
> they replace sugar with high fructose corn syrup or "instant
> hypoglycemia".   I was at the store the other day and though I would
> pick up a can of cranberry sauce.  They had Ocean Spray on sale 2 cans
> for $1.  I looked at the ingredients and indeed the sweetener was HFCS.
> Above them on the endcap shelf was the store's organic brand for $1.75
> with "organic sugar."  I decided of course the extra $1.25 would be
> worth it.
>
> People in the US may not be getting fat from eating more fat but because
> a lot of food especially "low fat" foods contain more carbs.  A few
> years back Starbucks carried Kraft cream cheese both regular and low
> fat.  The staff felt so bad about the watery low fat variety they would
> often give you two containers instead of one. Now they have a "reduced
> fat" cream cheese and looking at the label you'll see they got rid of
> the wateriness by using corn starch. Same with other brands too.  Oh and
> Starbucks and Kraft had a falling out over Kraft, who was distributing
> Starbucks products to stores, was discounting more than Starbucks liked.
>
> Happy overeating day!
>
>
>   

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Twinkies Please, We're Dying

[Share Long]

Oy, don't even mention high fructose corn syrup to me.  I started noticing its 
effects long ago and then became an avid reader of ingredient listings on food 
items.  As for yesterday, yep I went back for seconds, on the artichoke 
casserole, and thirds on the sweet potatoes but I got small portions each 
time.  We also had turkey which I love and mashed potatoes with sauerkraut 
which is totally yummy the latter perking up the bland taste of the former.  I 
also had some fun in conversation with gasp, another poster from FFL!  In the 
flesh!  




 From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] No Twinkies Please, We're Dying
 

  
On 11/22/2012 09:11 AM, Share Long wrote:
> couldn't not send this gem from Mr. Morford
>
>
> http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2012/11/20/no-twinkies-please/
>

Thing is that many sweets and I'm sure a Twinkie which I've not had in 
ages, is probably sweeter than when I was a kid.  Why?  For more profit 
they replace sugar with high fructose corn syrup or "instant 
hypoglycemia".   I was at the store the other day and though I would 
pick up a can of cranberry sauce.  They had Ocean Spray on sale 2 cans 
for $1.  I looked at the ingredients and indeed the sweetener was HFCS. 
Above them on the endcap shelf was the store's organic brand for $1.75 
with "organic sugar."  I decided of course the extra $1.25 would be 
worth it.

People in the US may not be getting fat from eating more fat but because 
a lot of food especially "low fat" foods contain more carbs.  A few 
years back Starbucks carried Kraft cream cheese both regular and low 
fat.  The staff felt so bad about the watery low fat variety they would 
often give you two containers instead of one. Now they have a "reduced 
fat" cream cheese and looking at the label you'll see they got rid of 
the wateriness by using corn starch. Same with other brands too.  Oh and 
Starbucks and Kraft had a falling out over Kraft, who was distributing 
Starbucks products to stores, was discounting more than Starbucks liked.

Happy overeating day!


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Twinkies Please, We're Dying

[Bhairitu]

On 11/22/2012 09:11 AM, Share Long wrote:
> couldn't not send this gem from Mr. Morford
>
>
> http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2012/11/20/no-twinkies-please/
>

Thing is that many sweets and I'm sure a Twinkie which I've not had in 
ages, is probably sweeter than when I was a kid.  Why?  For more profit 
they replace sugar with high fructose corn syrup or "instant 
hypoglycemia".   I was at the store the other day and though I would 
pick up a can of cranberry sauce.  They had Ocean Spray on sale 2 cans 
for $1.  I looked at the ingredients and indeed the sweetener was HFCS.  
Above them on the endcap shelf was the store's organic brand for $1.75 
with "organic sugar."  I decided of course the extra $1.25 would be 
worth it.

People in the US may not be getting fat from eating more fat but because 
a lot of food especially "low fat" foods contain more carbs.  A few 
years back Starbucks carried Kraft cream cheese both regular and low 
fat.  The staff felt so bad about the watery low fat variety they would 
often give you two containers instead of one. Now they have a "reduced 
fat" cream cheese and looking at the label you'll see they got rid of 
the wateriness by using corn starch. Same with other brands too.  Oh and 
Starbucks and Kraft had a falling out over Kraft, who was distributing 
Starbucks products to stores, was discounting more than Starbucks liked.

Happy overeating day!

[FairfieldLife] No Twinkies Please, We're Dying

[Share Long]

couldn't not send this gem from Mr. Morford


http://blog.sfgate.com/morford/2012/11/20/no-twinkies-please/

[FairfieldLife] No return!

[card]

giitaa V 17
tadbuddhayas tadaatmaanas  tanniSThaas tatparaayaNaaHgacchanty
apunaraavRttiM  jñaananirdhuutakalmasaaH
Radhakrishnan's translation:
Thinking of That, directing their whole conscious beingto That, making
That their whole aim, with That asthe sole object of their devotion,
they reach a state fromwhich there is no return, their sins washed away
by wisdom.

[FairfieldLife] No Apple Maps in Mercedes!

[card]

http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/34405/mercedes-a-class/


Mercedes A-Class powered by Nokia
Mark Peters : September 30th 2012 - 20:48 CET

Mercedes Benz New Mercedes-Benz A-Class powered by Nokia : Finnish phone 
manufacturer Nokia announced earlier this week that its Location and Commerce 
business is supplying global Navteq Maps and content to enable navigation 
systems in the all-new Mercedes A-Class range. Mercedes A-Class drivers will be 
able to experience a variety of additional features including visual 3D 
imagery, traffic data, driver alerts and speed limits. A-Class drivers can 
easily navigate through unfamiliar cities using visual content such as 3D City 
Models and 3D Landmarks by taking advantage of features like Extended Lanes, 
which guide drivers to the correct lane at complex junctions. 

[FairfieldLife] No One Murdered Because Of This Image

[turquoiseb]

I would paste in the article, with the actual image referred to in the
Subject line, but I strongly suspect that some people here are so
uptight that The Onion's article title might be proved wrong if I did.
You'll have to click on the link and see it for yourself.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,2\
9553/

Re: [FairfieldLife] No-Movie Review "The Big L."Insights of the bathrobe-wearing,

[Share Long]

Off to Iowa City for non ocular EMDR.  Back 1 ish.  Look forward to reading 
treatise on dudeism and other offerings. 

Sometimes Subtle Share
thank you Judy 



 From: merudanda 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:17 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] No-Movie Review "The Big L."Insights of the 
bathrobe-wearing,
 

  
No-Movie Review "The Big Lebowski."Insight of the bathrobe-wearing,
UPDATE-LETTER FOR THE ORDAINED DUDEIST AT FFL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWGDZawXEf0
Jeff Bridges' Interview Dude's 'Buddhistly Bent'
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/thr-cover-jeff-bridges-revealing-70887
a "Buddhistly bent guy"Here is the freedom/I have been sent/I'm delighted/I'm 
buddhistly bent
http://www.tricycle.com/feature/natural
who also has "a lot of Christian input, too.
With Jeff Bridges' new album, Dudeists may have now music to go along with 
their scriptures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qntfBwX6Kgg
"Music for me is like a weed that just keeps springing up, no matter how thick 
the concrete is it somehow manages to eke its way toward the light."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIMCLmakaw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmiK6tPucjc&feature=youtu.be
Could a Dudeist liturgy be on the horizon as well as a political party?The 
music we may have:

What A Little Bit of Love Can Do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS_2P1DnNWE
Falling Short 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoA0-5p_NFA
Fallin' Flyin' 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJmJEd5XOs
Inside the bathrobe-wearing , drinking, real-life Church of The Latter Day Dude 
my favorite familiar quotes
Number 21 on the Lojong list: "Approach every situation with a joyful mind."
Q: Is Dudeism a real religion? A: Although Dudeism makes use of a lot of humor 
and satire, we are totally serious in our belief that it is "the religion for 
its time and place." Or, we're as serious as anyone can be about a "belief." 
One of the core tenets of Dudeism is that everything is "just, like, your 
opinion, man" and so everything has to be up for debate. Unlike other 
religions, we're open to suggestions. In this way,Dudeism could be considered 
an"open source religion." We invite other people to tell us what they think is 
"dude" or "undude."
"We,the Dudeists, in order to form a more perfect groovin', establish just 
taking it easy, and promote inner tranquility, do ordain and establish this 
guide on abiding," the Dudeist "survival guide" begins. "For in this world 
there are two paths you can go by. ... There's the uptight way and there's the 
Dude way."
At least knowing now more about meaning of the word "dude': Elitist dandy, a 
wealthy frontiersman, an urban African-American alpha male, a beatnik poet, a 
hippie and a surfer (dude) but also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj0SSBSgxKI
 
Hasn't merudanda been hearty welcomed at FFL with the "extension of the hand of 
dudenessability."  by a ordained  Dudeist?
Leave a sign -- dodge the wrath
Of myself and leave the math to God
Yours truly
Meru-dude of the FFL-dude-ranch 

Turquoiseb just in case you read so far:
Did i fail you?
please






 

[FairfieldLife] No-Movie Review "The Big L."Insights of the bathrobe-wearing,

[merudanda]

No-Movie Review "The Big Lebowski."Insight of the bathrobe-wearing,

UPDATE-LETTER FOR THE ORDAINED DUDEIST AT FFL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWGDZawXEf0

Jeff Bridges' Interview Dude's 'Buddhistly Bent'
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/thr-cover-jeff-bridges-revealing-7\
0887


a "Buddhistly bent guy"Here is the freedom/I have been sent/I'm
delighted/I'm buddhistly bent

http://www.tricycle.com/feature/natural


who also has "a lot of Christian input, too.

With Jeff Bridges' new album, Dudeists may have now music to go along
with their scriptures.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qntfBwX6Kgg


"Music for me is like a weed that just keeps springing up, no matter
how thick the concrete is it somehow manages to eke its way toward the
light."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIMCLmakaw4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmiK6tPucjc&feature=youtu.be


Could a Dudeist liturgy be on the horizon as well as a political
party?The music we may have:


What A Little Bit of Love Can Do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS_2P1DnNWE


Falling Short

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoA0-5p_NFA


Fallin' Flyin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJmJEd5XOs


Inside the bathrobe-wearing , drinking, real-life Church of The Latter
Day Dude my favorite familiar quotes

Number 21 on the Lojong list: "Approach every situation with a joyful
mind."

Q: Is Dudeism a real religion? A: Although Dudeism makes use of a lot of
humor and satire, we are totally serious in our belief that it is
"the religion for its time and place." Or, we're as serious
as anyone can be about a "belief." One of the core tenets of
Dudeism is that everything is "just, like, your opinion, man"
and so everything has to be up for debate. Unlike other religions,
we're open to suggestions. In this way,Dudeism could be considered
an "open source religion." We invite other people to tell us
what they think is "dude" or "undude."

"We,the Dudeists, in order to form a more perfect groovin', establish
just taking it easy, and promote inner tranquility, do ordain and
establish this guide on abiding," the Dudeist "survival guide" begins.
"For in this world there are two paths you can go by. ... There's the
uptight way and there's the Dude way."

At least knowing now more about meaning of the word "dude': Elitist
dandy, a wealthy frontiersman, an urban African-American alpha male, a
beatnik poet, a hippie and a surfer (dude) but also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj0SSBSgxKI




Hasn't merudanda been hearty welcomed at FFL with the "extension
of the hand of dudenessability."  by a ordained  Dudeist?

Leave a sign -- dodge the wrath
Of myself and leave the math to God

Yours truly

Meru-dude of the FFL-dude-ranch


Turquoiseb just in case you read so far:

Did i fail you?

  [http://www.midasupload.com/users/1/targetfail.jpg]

please


  [http://img.printfection.com/1/1147/8881777/YOAwT.jpg]

[FairfieldLife] No CO2 Emissions? Go Green with Ford Electric Car?! (It's a lie!)

[wgm4u]

How do we *generate* electricity to power these vehicles? Basically it's carbon 
based, deal with it!

[FairfieldLife] 'No Time is a Good Time for Goodbye'..

[Robert]

Classic '80's...Sarah!...by Starship
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otGWqyG75Ik

Re: [FairfieldLife] No white woman no can??

[Emily Reyn]

Nice solo and I like the way they brought in the "tune" as accompaniment.  I 
fail to understand your subject line, however.  



 From: cardemaister 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 5:54 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] No white woman no can??
 

  

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/coracolemansolo.html

:0