[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Buck, do you see any correlation between posting these rumours and you having problems getting a Dome-badge ? Just wondering...
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Buck, do you see any correlation between posting these rumours and you having problems getting a Dome-badge ? Just wondering... No, was judged to have been a morass of a different trouble that was chosen at the time to not open and git in. These larger things of theirs in our collective past quickly get deflected by tru-believers in conversation. Most often it is just dropped. Is just how the dissonance of feeling is handled politely. And more strictly, there is nothing particularly in the TM Dome guidelines that would exclude eligibility on the basis of what others might say on the internet. Anyway, I'm a tru-believer like most of them. I'm still a practitioner un-like some here, a conservative meditator from way back and one of the few to defend TM on this board. NOw, Rick here on the other hand, some would really love to string-up for hosting such a negative Maharishi and TM site as FFL. You should hear the explication some of the real tru-believers utter about Rick Archer. In process Rick probably could not git back in for the Dome meditation. Though Rick is working moderating a discussion with John Hagelin this month at a West Coast conference. As meditators, we all git along by choice. -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
NOw, Rick here on the other hand, some would really love to string-up for hosting such a negative Maharishi and TM site as FFL. You should hear the explication some of the real tru-believers utter about Rick Archer. In process Rick probably could not git back in for the Dome meditation. Though Rick is working moderating a discussion with John Hagelin this month at a West Coast conference. As meditators, we all git along by choice. -Buck in the Dome John Hagelin and Rick Archer are both out at the Science and Nonduality Conference this week. John Hagelin is a presenter and Rick Archer is moderating sessions. http://www.scienceandnonduality.com/program_schedule.shtml
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
NOw, Rick here on the other hand, some would really love to string-up for hosting such a negative Maharishi and TM site as FFL. You should hear the explication some of the real tru-believers utter about Rick Archer. In process Rick probably could not git back in for the Dome meditation. Though Rick is working moderating a discussion with John Hagelin this month at a West Coast conference. As meditators, we all git along by choice. -Buck in the Dome John Hagelin and Rick Archer are both out at the Science and Nonduality Conference this week. John Hagelin is a presenter and Rick Archer is moderating sessions. http://www.scienceandnonduality.com/program_schedule.shtml That is really quite a program with so many spiritual heavy-weights of the modern time. It will be interesting to see how John Hagelin chooses to fit in. It's also grown to be a very sophisticated marketplace. At this Science and Nonduality venue some of people may know something about TM. At a similar academic venue I was at last week out East the scholarly folks there knew hardly nothing about TM or Fairfield. It was interesting to hear these people in reaction to my being from TM and my having lived in the TM community for 40 years. TM pretty much disappeared from the 1980's and on in popular culture. Basically anyone under 40 never heard of it let alone a spiritual Fairfield. TM by Maharishi's design skipped almost two generations. Then for people over 40 it was only faintly something about the Beatles and something about the money. -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
This index is just to what various people have said on FFL, right, Buck? I mean, rather than to authoritative sources of information? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: snip NPD diagnosing Robin http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/321701 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/323518 I ask because these two links that you've just added are complete nonsense, nothing but hostile attacks on Robin. You're aware of this, right?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
On Aug 29, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Buck wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: One wonders how many more posts Doug is going to send in which he is basically talking to himself. Kind of funny~~but also, kind of sad. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
Not to me. Doug's history of events on FFL has been highly useful to at least one person.me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Aug 29, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Buck wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: One wonders how many more posts Doug is going to send in which he is basically talking to himself. Kind of funny~~but also, kind of sad. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: snip Well, actually it is mighty interesting to see who looks in and comes through FF and FFL. Is also amusing to wonder who some people here think they are writing for here as their audience as they push the `send' button. I agree. It is even more interesting to see the ones who honestly don't care. They *don't care* whether what they say on a regular basis reflects poorly on TM or the TMO, as long as they can score points in their imaginary battles. But in fact, Barry wouldn't know anything about these people because, as he tells us repeatedly, he doesn't read their posts. Can you imagine what a real lurker with real spiritual aspirations must think of the TM TBs here? This forum must have resulted in hundreds of such lurkers vowing never to have anything to do with TM, based on their own assessment of how 30-year meditators turned out. Barry seems to believe a TMer should take pains to behave in such a way as to meet the expectations of lurkers, even if that means their behavior is inauthentic, and even though the premise that behavior (or, rather, someone else's opinion thereof) reflects development of consciousness is explicitly disavowed in MMY's teaching. In the Gita 2:54, Arjuna asks Krishna: What are the signs of a man whose intellect is steady, who is absorbed in the Self, O Krishna? How does the man of steady intellect speak, how does he sit, how does he walk? In response, Krishna goes on for 18 verses describing the signs of a man...who is absorbed in the Self without ever mentioning any of the objective characteristics Arjuna has asked about, or any others that could be discerned by somebody else. He lists only *subjective* characteristics. Maharishi comments on verse 55: This verse does not record any outer sign of the man whose intellect is steady and who is established in the Self, because there cannot be any outer sign to show that a man is absorbed deep within himself. The inner state of such a man cannot be judged by outer signs. Barry used to be a TM teacher, but it appears he's forgotten this seminal point of what he learned from MMY.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Can you imagine what a real lurker with real spiritual aspirations must think of the TM TBs here? This forum must have resulted in hundreds of such lurkers vowing never to have anything to do with TM, based on their own assessment of how 30-year meditators turned out. Barry seems to believe a TMer should take pains to behave in such a way as to meet the expectations of lurkers, even if that means their behavior is inauthentic, and even though the premise that behavior (or, rather, someone else's opinion thereof) reflects development of consciousness is explicitly disavowed in MMY's teaching. In the Gita 2:54, Arjuna asks Krishna: What are the signs of a man whose intellect is steady, who is absorbed in the Self, O Krishna? How does the man of steady intellect speak, how does he sit, how does he walk? In response, Krishna goes on for 18 verses describing the signs of a man...who is absorbed in the Self without ever mentioning any of the objective characteristics Arjuna has asked about, or any others that could be discerned by somebody else. He lists only *subjective* characteristics. Maharishi comments on verse 55: This verse does not record any outer sign of the man whose intellect is steady and who is established in the Self, because there cannot be any outer sign to show that a man is absorbed deep within himself. The inner state of such a man cannot be judged by outer signs. Barry used to be a TM teacher, but it appears he's forgotten this seminal point of what he learned from MMY. P.S.: It's fine if Barry wishes to *disagree* with this point. But it's dishonest for him to pretend that TMers should agree with him and not MMY (and Krishna), and that if they don't adjust their behavior to match Barry's standards, they cannot be said to be developing their consciousness via TM according to *MMY's* standard. In fact, what Barry is really hoping to accomplish is to stifle TMers' criticisms of himself, by portraying such behavior as antithetical to development of consciousness. However, of course, if Barry wants to maintain that behavior reflects development of consciousness, he has to adopt that same premise with regard to his own behavior and therefore the effectiveness of whatever he's been practicing, over *40* years. Given the nature of that behavior, he might want to think again.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: snip Well, actually it is mighty interesting to see who looks in and comes through FF and FFL. Is also amusing to wonder who some people here think they are writing for here as their audience as they push the `send' button. I agree. It is even more interesting to see the ones who honestly don't care. They *don't care* whether what they say on a regular basis reflects poorly on TM or the TMO, as long as they can score points in their imaginary battles. Can you imagine what a real lurker with real spiritual aspirations must think of the TM TBs here? This forum must have resulted in hundreds of such lurkers vowing never to have anything to do with TM, based on their own assessment of how 30-year meditators turned out. guffaw Missed this first time around. It represents a contradiction found often in Barry's posts. On one hand, he tries to portray the posts of his TMer critics here (as Doug does above) as having no effect whatsoever, including on lurkers; they're deluded, he maintains, about their influence. On the other hand, as we see in the post I'm commenting on, when it suits his current putdown of his TMer critics, their posts are so influential that *hundreds* of lurkers have vowed never to have anything to do with TM. Again, the elephant in Barry's room, the only thing he's really concerned about, is how *he* appears to lurkers. In both cases, he's trying to influence his critics to stifle their criticisms--either because (depending on what day it is) (1) lurkers pay no attention to their posts, or (2) lurkers pay such *close* attention to their posts that it puts them off TM for good. My guess: The more discerning lurkers are put off *Barry* for good.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip Again, the elephant in Barry's room, the only thing he's really concerned about, is how *he* appears to lurkers. In both cases, he's trying to influence his critics to stifle their criticisms--either because (depending on what day it is) (1) lurkers pay no attention to their posts, or (2) lurkers pay such *close* attention to their posts that it puts them off TM for good. My guess: The more discerning lurkers are put off *Barry* for good. Oh, gee, I forgot the third leg of Barry's elephant. In a whole *other* series of posts, he claims he is actively attempting (by making mistakes of fact and logic, among other things) to *elicit* criticisms from TMers so he can point to their posts pointing out those mistakes as horrible examples of what TM practice accomplishes. Maybe there's a fourth leg too that I've forgotten; or maybe it's just a very unstable elephant.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Can you imagine what a real lurker with real spiritual aspirations must think of the TM TBs here? This forum must have resulted in hundreds of such lurkers vowing never to have anything to do with TM, based on their own assessment of how 30-year meditators turned out. This is the wet dream of Barry and Vaj. As usual; just a dream.
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dhamiltony2k5 wrote: But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? Yeah, right, a major major expose. Well, actually it is mighty interesting to see who looks in and comes through FF and FFL. Is also amusing to wonder who some people here think they are writing for here as their audience as they push the `send' button. I've mentioned this before but compared to some of the Indian groups and forums FFL looks tame. The Indian groups and forums really get into heated debates.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I've mentioned this before but compared to some of the Indian groups and forums FFL looks tame. The Indian groups and forums really get into heated debates. Not to mention hatred that makes the KKK look like pussies. Back before the Internet was called the Internet I used to check out some of the Indian groups. Big mistake. I've never seen such unmitigated hatred in my life. Reading those groups one gets the feeling that not only does everyone in India hate everyone who is not a member of their caste or religion, they hate everyone not from their own village. Truly shocking. A real wake-up call. And if any TM TB dares to rebut this *without* having read the groups in question for some time, that just show you one more thing about their mindset... I repeat my thesis -- modern-day India is the legacy of the Vedas. If it was so great an idea, why didn't it produce more tangible results, eh?
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I repeat my thesis -- modern-day India is the legacy of the Vedas. If it was so great an idea, why didn't it produce more tangible results, eh? India produced His Divinty Swami Brahmananda Saraswathi and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. America produced what; a swami Rama, Barry's Guru who comitted suicide ! Go figure !
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I've mentioned this before but compared to some of the Indian groups and forums FFL looks tame. The Indian groups and forums really get into heated debates. Not to mention hatred that makes the KKK look like pussies. Back before the Internet was called the Internet I used to check out some of the Indian groups. Big mistake. I've never seen such unmitigated hatred in my life. Reading those groups one gets the feeling that not only does everyone in India hate everyone who is not a member of their caste or religion, they hate everyone not from their own village. Truly shocking. A real wake-up call. And if any TM TB dares to rebut this *without* having read the groups in question for some time, that just show you one more thing about their mindset... I repeat my thesis -- modern-day India is the legacy of the Vedas. If it was so great an idea, why didn't it produce more tangible results, eh? I suspect some of the folks here think that India is filled with religious people doing pujas every day. And the populace is VERY spiritual. Well, my experience has been they are very materialistic, often even more so than Americans if you can believe that. People here probably want to know from their horoscope when they're going to be enlightened but Indians want to know when they'll get a new job or get married or afford a house. Bhagavan Das once said it was easier to do sadhana in the US than in India. Go figure. India is one place I think I could stand to live in rather than just visit. To Shemp's chagrin, I would probably prefer Kerala because of it's proximity to the equator (nice weather year round except for monsoons), clean modern cities, lack of beggars and of course a communist government though businesses seemed to be flourishing there and beggars turned into street merchants. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I repeat my thesis -- modern-day India is the legacy of the Vedas. If it was so great an idea, why didn't it produce more tangible results, eh? India produced His Divinty Swami Brahmananda Saraswathi and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. America produced what; a swami Rama, Barry's Guru who comitted suicide ! Go figure ! Agreed... But, we are in a new time now... And America has produced President Barack Obama, and his wife, Michelle... A new start for America... I can still feel the energy, at the 'Kohl Center' at Madison, Wisconsin, where on Feb. 5th, 2008, Barack Obama made the speech, that turned the tide, and the day, that torch was passed, by the Great Rishi, whose work, according to him, 'Was Fini'... r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: FFL Indexing For Researching purposes, The Fairfield Meditating Community, the TM.Org and Fairfield life. Fairfield Life, Indexing the Story Here at: Homepage http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ I usually just skip by this indexing post that Doug makes on a regular basis, but this time I skimmed through it, and found this near the end, where Doug explains why he's compiled the index: snip For some time now I have been inviting outsiders to this list. Since about Thanksgiving, I have been going to the major print-media, radio and cable editors inviting their writers to look in on the story here. I have persistently gone through at least all of the major print media once or twice going to their web pages ferreting out their editors and inviting them with a cover letter about the story here. To academia also. Some one a little while ago on the list here cautioned that we should be careful what we are saying here , that the Des Moines Register or the AP might pick it up. Well, actually they are here too in all likelihood. There is more than just us here lurking. Out of curiosity, I did a search and found that Doug had posted what he quotes above in January 2003. Seems that for close to seven years, nobody in the media has found anything on FFL newsworthy enough to write about (if anybody even had the interest to look). But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right?
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: FFL Indexing For Researching purposes, The Fairfield Meditating Community, the TM.Org and Fairfield life. Fairfield Life, Indexing the Story Here at: Homepage http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ I usually just skip by this indexing post that Doug makes on a regular basis, but this time I skimmed through it, and found this near the end, where Doug explains why he's compiled the index: snip For some time now I have been inviting outsiders to this list. Since about Thanksgiving, I have been going to the major print-media, radio and cable editors inviting their writers to look in on the story here. I have persistently gone through at least all of the major print media once or twice going to their web pages ferreting out their editors and inviting them with a cover letter about the story here. To academia also. Some one a little while ago on the list here cautioned that we should be careful what we are saying here , that the Des Moines Register or the AP might pick it up. Well, actually they are here too in all likelihood. There is more than just us here lurking. Out of curiosity, I did a search and found that Doug had posted what he quotes above in January 2003. Seems that for close to seven years, nobody in the media has found anything on FFL newsworthy enough to write about (if anybody even had the interest to look). But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? Yeah, right, a major major expose. Read all about it! Read all about it! Group of sincere hearts abused by tyrant and cronies. What could be a more common headline? Anyone born in 1980 grew up thinking Paul was in a group called Wings -- maybe in the early Seventies you could get an editor to think this story was fit for print, but the movement's 15 minutes sputtered its last right about the time the Beatles broke up. This is the way the world ends This is the way the world ends This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper. -- T.S. Eliot Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Seems that for close to seven years, nobody in the media has found anything on FFL newsworthy enough to write about (if anybody even had the interest to look). But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? Yeah, right, a major major expose. (That was sarcasm, I hope you realize.) Read all about it! Read all about it! Group of sincere hearts abused by tyrant and cronies. What could be a more common headline? Reminds me a bit of the TMO fantasy that the CIA had infiltrated the movement because they were terrified it was going to take over the world. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the CIA *did* do some investigating, but the resultant memo would have concluded that the movement was way too silly and f*cked up to ever be any kind of threat to national security, so there was no need to waste any more time on it. Seems to me this campaign of Doug's is one instance where Barry's self-importance trope actually applies. Oh, wait--isn't it Barry who's been agitating for dissident TMers to run to the media with the Big Story about the petition refusing to participate in group meditation? Never mind... cackle
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Seems that for close to seven years, nobody in the media has found anything on FFL newsworthy enough to write about (if anybody even had the interest to look). But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? Yeah, right, a major major expose. (That was sarcasm, I hope you realize.) Read all about it! Read all about it! Group of sincere hearts abused by tyrant and cronies. What could be a more common headline? Reminds me a bit of the TMO fantasy that the CIA had infiltrated the movement because they were terrified it was going to take over the world. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the CIA *did* do some investigating, but the resultant memo would have concluded that the movement was way too silly and f*cked up to ever be any kind of threat to national security, so there was no need to waste any more time on it. Seems to me this campaign of Doug's is one instance where Barry's self-importance trope actually applies. Oh, wait--isn't it Barry who's been agitating for dissident TMers to run to the media with the Big Story about the petition refusing to participate in group meditation? Never mind... cackle There's babies laughing, and too, there's cats purring, and there's the sound that Goofy makes at 5:32 into this cartoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGsJmHhfnzg but there's nothing purer, nothing more definitive, nothing with quite the imprimatur that the cackle cackled by the Cacklemeister can stamp on a conceit!
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip cackle There's babies laughing, [baby cackle] http://www.flickr.com/photos/36189...@n02/4064323061/ and too, there's cats purring, [kitty purr 01] http://www.flickr.com/photos/36189...@n02/4064323119/ and there's the sound that Goofy makes at 5:32 into this cartoon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGsJmHhfnzg but there's nothing purer, nothing more definitive, nothing with quite the imprimatur that the cackle cackled by the Cacklemeister can stamp on a conceit! [cackle cloud] http://www.flickr.com/photos/36189...@n02/4065070138/
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? Yeah, right, a major major expose. Well, actually it is mighty interesting to see who looks in and comes through FF and FFL. Is also amusing to wonder who some people here think they are writing for here as their audience as they push the `send' button.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: [I wrote:] But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? [Edg wrote:] Yeah, right, a major major expose. Well, actually it is mighty interesting to see who looks in and comes through FF and FFL. So when should we expect to see the expose? Is also amusing to wonder who some people here think they are writing for here as their audience as they push the `send' button. But not amusing to you, because you don't read their posts. snicker
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: But you never know. There could be a major expose in the works, right? Yeah, right, a major major expose. Well, actually it is mighty interesting to see who looks in and comes through FF and FFL. Is also amusing to wonder who some people here think they are writing for here as their audience as they push the `send' button. I agree. It is even more interesting to see the ones who honestly don't care. They *don't care* whether what they say on a regular basis reflects poorly on TM or the TMO, as long as they can score points in their imaginary battles. Can you imagine what a real lurker with real spiritual aspirations must think of the TM TBs here? This forum must have resulted in hundreds of such lurkers vowing never to have anything to do with TM, based on their own assessment of how 30-year meditators turned out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index, to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked for Ealr Kaplan letter in the files did not see it. Earl Kaplan's Letter 4.16.04 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/32360 - Original Message From: dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:59:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] An Index, to FFL The Meditating Community and the TM-Org, Fairfieldlife. Fairfield Life, Indexing the Story Here at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ The FFL list can be read off the internet from its homepage, without having to be a member. You can start by using the links in this index or go to the home page and start there by clicking on 'messages'. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages From the `messages' you can insert these numbers into the message # search box. That will take you to the area of the archive of these threads. You can sieve the posts of the archive area that way. Often I point newcomers, recent arrivals or outsiders to FFL through this list. Below is a quick index. Scroll down through this index and survey the range of subject threads. This index includes many summary posts in the FFL archive like: -the petition contained in post # 3811 (The Meditating Rift Here) -The TMO, partitioning the Meditating Community thread, # 3478 -Meditating Classical Concert Pianist Banned from MUM thread #3113 (late Nov, Dec '02) -Meditating Irish Musician Banned from MUM # 2963 -Meditators Banned from MUM # 4219 , 4402 -Is Everyone Welcome? 953 -The difference between a shooting star and a falling one: # 2960 The Meditating Community Mexican Stand-off: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/26429 -The `one hundred millionaires' thread # 985 or 949 -Some resolution #726 and thread -Heavenly Mountain # 935 -Legal remedy and threads # 3965 -The meditating community-wide survey # 3896 thread Also look in the files section of FFL. The actual survey is archived there. The seeds of the present were present then in 1994~ It is a very interesting read. -Fairfield and the TMO, the dwindle # 4724 -The Iowa Meditating Landscape, Trickle-down Depopulation 4503 , 4502 , 13564 -The Kaplans and their money threads, # 3040 or # 3420 The recurring million dollar questions spread throughout the archive: -Fiscal Soundness summary, 5958 -Financial disclosure thread, 5012, 5026 The Real Estate Guru, D Magazine, 10938 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10938 Estimating the Assets: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13902 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13959 Hartford Advocate, Maharishi's Hotel of Emptiness: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17234 TMO purchases NYC Wall Street building http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28546 -Endowing, process and The Meditating Community 637 -The Kaplan Lawsuit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10936 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13217 -Kaplans http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13274 -Lawsuit Against the Kaplans http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17110 (More on the Kaplans Heavenly Mountain in sequence below) -The TMO and the CIA thread 5752 -Threats in the fair field, 5057 and 5063 , 30276 -What is the hook here, what is the story here thread, # 4813 # 4762 -The Sex Summaries I-IV, 6154 through 6157 and and also posts during late December 2002 and post # 7663, - Sexy-Sadie.txt, A compilation of posts about MMY's other guru life. In the files section of FFL: http://f2.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/gIA3QBSi0yiUE0KAJU0EYsFiuNMzTjUDZ9j_z6LV 5ZzXmp28u4oqzeDr-oTxvZoE24PfMGM0qlTS19MYa1GOhseOzU9TQi15Llf-/Sexy- Sadie.txt You might have to sign in to read the 'files' section of the FFL archive -Summarized Topic Articles Titled:, 4813 -Guru Dev's Discourse: Gyan Bhakti 7883 and 7884 -TM Scandals a Logical Sequence, 7430, Insights to TMO in India, 7504 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13338 -J.Krishnamurti, 1929 Speech Dissolving his organization, post 7513 -Search for Global Queen, 7664 -Just go, don't enter in to the politics, Karunamayi, 7849 -Tax-exempt Status Lost, 7793 -TMSedona, 7510 - Walking the dog, where to go to learn meditation outside the cult: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13502 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/37303 -MMY's comments about other techniques, links: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28270 -The Diaspora, The Informal-TMO, 8176 -Bevan, MUM Presidential Frolic'ng , 8220 About Cult in the TMO
[FairfieldLife] Re: An Index, to FFL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Yet even the CIA could not find the info that these guys have found and they could not destroy MMY [snip} Louis: what exactly are you referring to regarding the CIA and the TMO and MMY? What, specifically, has the CIA done? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
