[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZRnkBK_0no1 Traditionally, 60 years makes a cycle of a life and 61 is regarded as the beginning of a new life cycle, a very important point of life and therefore there is often a big celebration only then and we do not pay a lot of attention to birthdays until you are 60 years old. After that, a birthday celebration is held every ten years, that is the 70th, the 80th, etc, Who are we ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
And now the picture's gone, but still the dust remains ... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: And P.S. In attempting to lift the invention that is the rented lawnmower into the back of my jeep, I lost strength and dropped it about 3 feet, the force of which propelled me into a full backwards somersault down the slope of my driveway. I looked up to see the lawnmower rolling down the driveway towards the street. After a few more deep breaths and focus, I was able to barely heft the heavy hunk of steel into the back of the jeep, where I wondered on my way to return it whether I should tell them I dropped it - after all, I did not purchase the $3 damage warrantee. I decided not to. Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat; et ego auctoritate ipsius te absolvo ab omni vinculo excommunicationis (suspensionis) et interdicti in quantum possum et tu indiges. Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, + et Spiritus Sancti. Amen. Passio Domini nostri Jesu Christi, merita Beatae Mariae Virginis et omnium sanctorum, quidquid boni feceris vel mali sustinueris sint tibi in remissionem peccatorum, augmentum gratiae et praemium vitae aeternae. Amen. Pretty funny really and I came to the conclusion I need to stop rolling around in all these emotions Laudetur Jesus Christus -In aeternum! Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5Kk2QfaEE and get to reinventing the illusion that is my life. The Pursuit of Unhappiness- The story of the hammer #285973 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/285973 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Join The Magic User's Club and Get Up Off a That Thing Release the Pressure/ and dance 'til you feel better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWZDDy2CUMfeature=fvst --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Of course, anger is really grief, right? Unfathomable. Now, on with the day. The invention that is the lawnmower, is sitting for a four-week wait at the repair shop. So I had to rent a lawnmower yesterday. They go for $36 for 24 hours. And I am not talking about the kind you sit in. So, having mowed the lawn, I have to return it quickly. And, then, it's off to pick a countertop for the kitchen. Another busy day :) From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. I mean, have you *ever* woken up and found that you are in a rage so deep and wide and high, that it is unfathomable? No, not about some relationship or another, I mean at the *seeming* core. But then, that's when you realize that the *core* is not really the core. - Original Message - From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Not to be misunderstoodkidding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4oKyO2YbRcfeature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. TEN LITTLE MEDITATORS One little meditator Found life good and true, An old friend found him And then there were two. Two little meditators Content beneath a tree, A tired man rested there And then there were three. Three little meditators Learning more and more, A young scholar joined them And then there were four. Four little meditators Glad to be alive, A sick man hobbled by And then there were five. Five little meditators Never in a fix, A muddled man came along And then there were six. Six little meditators On the road to Heaven, A wicked man followed them And then there were seven. Seven little meditators In a blissful state, A lost boy asked the way And then there were eight. Eight little meditators Meditating in a line, A dreamer stumbled over them And then there were nine. Nine little meditators Happy, peaceful men, A worried man needed help And then there were ten. Ten little meditators Continue to increase, And on they go across the world Spreading happiness and peace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: See, no regrets. Ãâ No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: [...] With all due respect, Buck, one of the things I've noticed is what direction people choose to face as they get older, and thus closer to the end of their lives. Some -- many -- tend to face backwards, gazing into the past, searching for some kind of inspiration or comfort there. Others are facing forward, involved in the present and looking forward to the future. I wouldn't expect either Curtis or I to check into the Old Folk's Dome anytime soon if I were you. --- sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Excluded middle thinking. Currently, I am trying to learn: Tensor Analysis, how to rotate a pyramid of balls in each hand simultaneously, 3-club toss juggling, 4 ball toss juggling, as well as reviving my classical guitar skills, helping create a new computer hardware and programming paradigm, rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. Today is my 57th birthday. I would be very happy spending a few hours (up to 8) in the Old Folks Dome so that I would have more energy and better concentration the rest of my day. L. It's been a long time since we spoke to each other. Hope you had a happy and insightfull birthday Lawson. Have you thought about this logically? If you didn't exist before you were born, then you probably will not exist after you die. But, if you did exist before you were born, You will exist after you die. I wonder what is your take on this after 57 years on this plane.?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
Happy belated birthday! So many defer to Facebook these days to remind them of other's birthdays - no need to remember any longer if all one's friends and families have jumped on the social networking site :) Hope it was a great one. From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:07 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Happy Birthday! Thanks. A sign of my life: online people remember my birthday. In real life? Only my roommate has. Family and friends, not-so-much, at least not yet. L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Happy Birthday! Thanks. A sign of my life: online people remember my birthday. In real life? Only my roommate has. Family and friends, not-so-much, at least not yet. L. Happy Birthday, Lawson.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: � ---� turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: [...] With all due respect, Buck, one of the things I've noticed is what direction people choose to face as they get older, and thus closer to the end of their lives. Some -- many -- tend to face backwards, gazing into the past, searching for some kind of inspiration or comfort there. Others are facing forward, involved in the present and looking forward to the future. I wouldn't expect either Curtis or I to check into the Old Folk's Dome anytime soon if I were you. ---� sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Excluded middle thinking. Currently, I am trying to learn: Tensor Analysis, how to rotate a pyramid of balls in each hand simultaneously, 3-club toss juggling, 4 ball toss juggling, as well as reviving my classical guitar skills, helping create a new computer hardware and programming paradigm, rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. Today is my 57th birthday. I would be very happy spending a few hours (up to 8) in the Old Folks Dome so that I would have more energy and better concentration the rest of my day. L. � It's been a long time since we spoke to each other.� Hope you had a happy and insightfull birthday Lawson. Have you thought about this logically?� If you didn't exist before you were born, then you probably will not exist after you die. But, if you did exist before you were born, You will exist after you die. I wonder what is your take on this after 57 years on this plane.? You're assuming that this is plane, you know... And, my thoughts now are similar to my thoughts from many decades ago when I first thought about this stuff: huh? Dunno. L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Happy Birthday! Thanks. A sign of my life: online people remember my birthday. In real life? Only my roommate has. Family and friends, not-so-much, at least not yet. L. Happy Birthday, Lawson. Thanks. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: [...]rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. You certainly seems to have your hands full :-) Yeah, its a tremendously long series. The author died before he could finish it, but his wife commissioned another writer to complete the last volume from his notes and rough drafts. Today is my 57th birthday. Happy birthday ! Thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjF1bG5LUcsfeature=share ;-) L
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
sorry missed your post esp. since here at mount Meru only over 60s are celebrated and acknowledged but nevertheless a very late late in the night Happy birthday ! whisper-whisper-wish --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: [...]rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. You certainly seems to have your hands full :-) Yeah, its a tremendously long series. The author died before he could finish it, but his wife commissioned another writer to complete the last volume from his notes and rough drafts. Today is my 57th birthday. Happy birthday ! Thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjF1bG5LUcsfeature=share ;-) L
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa Dominus Tecum :) From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 2:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. And now the picture's gone, but still the dust remains ... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: And P.S. In attempting to lift the invention that is the rented lawnmower into the back of my jeep, I lost strength and dropped it about 3 feet, the force of which propelled me into a full backwards somersault down the slope of my driveway. I looked up to see the lawnmower rolling down the driveway towards the street. After a few more deep breaths and focus, I was able to barely heft the heavy hunk of steel into the back of the jeep, where I wondered on my way to return it whether I should tell them I dropped it - after all, I did not purchase the $3 damage warrantee. I decided not to. Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat; et ego auctoritate ipsius te absolvo ab omni vinculo excommunicationis (suspensionis) et interdicti in quantum possum et tu indiges. Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, + et Spiritus Sancti. Amen. Passio Domini nostri Jesu Christi, merita Beatae Mariae Virginis et omnium sanctorum, quidquid boni feceris vel mali sustinueris sint tibi in remissionem peccatorum, augmentum gratiae et praemium vitae aeternae. Amen. Pretty funny really and I came to the conclusion I need to stop rolling around in all these emotions Laudetur Jesus Christus -In aeternum! Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5Kk2QfaEE and get to reinventing the illusion that is my life. The Pursuit of Unhappiness- The story of the hammer #285973 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/285973 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Join The Magic User's Club and Get Up Off a That Thing Release the Pressure/ and dance 'til you feel better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWZDDy2CUMfeature=fvst --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Of course, anger is really grief, right? Unfathomable. Now, on with the day. The invention that is the lawnmower, is sitting for a four-week wait at the repair shop. So I had to rent a lawnmower yesterday. They go for $36 for 24 hours. And I am not talking about the kind you sit in. So, having mowed the lawn, I have to return it quickly. And, then, it's off to pick a countertop for the kitchen. Another busy day :) From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. I mean, have you *ever* woken up and found that you are in a rage so deep and wide and high, that it is unfathomable? No, not about some relationship or another, I mean at the *seeming* core. But then, that's when you realize that the *core* is not really the core. - Original Message - From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Not to be misunderstoodkidding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4oKyO2YbRcfeature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. TEN LITTLE MEDITATORS One little meditator Found life good and true, An old friend found him And then there were two. Two little meditators Content beneath a tree, A tired man rested there And then there were three. Three little meditators Learning more and more, A young scholar joined them And then there were four. Four little meditators Glad to be alive, A sick man hobbled by And then there were five. Five little meditators Never in a fix, A muddled man came along And then there were six. Six little meditators On the road to Heaven, A wicked man followed them And then there were seven. Seven little meditators In a blissful state, A lost boy asked the way And then there were eight. Eight little meditators Meditating in a line, A dreamer stumbled over them And then there were nine. Nine little meditators Happy, peaceful men, A worried man needed help And then there were ten. Ten little meditators Continue to increase, And on they go
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: sorry missed your post esp. since here at mount Meru only over 60s are celebrated and acknowledged but nevertheless a very late late in the night Happy birthday ! whisper-whisper-wish Not a clue what all that means, but thanks. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: [...]rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. You certainly seems to have your hands full :-) Yeah, its a tremendously long series. The author died before he could finish it, but his wife commissioned another writer to complete the last volume from his notes and rough drafts. Today is my 57th birthday. Happy birthday ! Thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjF1bG5LUcsfeature=share ;-) L
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Happy belated birthday! Â So many defer to Facebook these days to remind them of other's birthdays - no need to remember any longer if all one's friends and families have jumped on the social networking site :) Â Hope it was a great one. Â Well, my family is more dysfunctional than most. But thanks. L. From: sparaig LEnglish5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:07 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Happy Birthday! Thanks. A sign of my life: online people remember my birthday. In real life? Only my roommate has. Family and friends, not-so-much, at least not yet. L.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz_tG7RTNqI I confess and repent enjoying your sinful writing [;)] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:stunned and worried about your regular and really heavy work let me at least help you out with the wording: Confiteor Deo omnipoténti quia peccávi nimis cogitatióne, verbo et ópere: (percutit sibi pectus ter, dicens / Strike breast three times )and now comes: [:x] Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa Dominus noster te absolvat Dominus Tecum :)Et Dominus noster tecum. Ave Emilia .Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui,dimÃssis peccátis tuis, perdúcat te ad vitam ætérnam. Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5cF5GGqVWofeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5ZmQQM8AEfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6dWJJCfPM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPmewlHK4Ufeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zdDb72yIF4feature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 2:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. And now the picture's gone, but still the dust remains ... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: And P.S. In attempting to lift the invention that is the rented lawnmower into the back of my jeep, I lost strength and dropped it about 3 feet, the force of which propelled me into a full backwards somersault down the slope of my driveway. I looked up to see the lawnmower rolling down the driveway towards the street. After a few more deep breaths and focus, I was able to barely heft the heavy hunk of steel into the back of the jeep, where I wondered on my way to return it whether I should tell them I dropped it - after all, I did not purchase the $3 damage warrantee. I decided not to. Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat; et ego auctoritate ipsius te absolvo ab omni vinculo excommunicationis (suspensionis) et interdicti in quantum possum et tu indiges. Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, + et Spiritus Sancti. Amen. Passio Domini nostri Jesu Christi, merita Beatae Mariae Virginis et omnium sanctorum, quidquid boni feceris vel mali sustinueris sint tibi in remissionem peccatorum, augmentum gratiae et praemium vitae aeternae. Amen. Pretty funny really and I came to the conclusion I need to stop rolling around in all these emotions Laudetur Jesus Christus -In aeternum! Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5Kk2QfaEE and get to reinventing the illusion that is my life. The Pursuit of Unhappiness- The story of the hammer #285973 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/285973 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Join The Magic User's Club and Get Up Off a That Thing Release the Pressure/ and dance 'til you feel better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWZDDy2CUMfeature=fvst --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Of course, anger is really grief, right? Unfathomable. Now, on with the day. The invention that is the lawnmower, is sitting for a four-week wait at the repair shop. So I had to rent a lawnmower yesterday. They go for $36 for 24 hours. And I am not talking about the kind you sit in. So, having mowed the lawn, I have to return it quickly. And, then, it's off to pick a countertop for the kitchen. Another busy day :) From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. I mean, have you *ever* woken up and found that you are in a rage so deep and wide and high, that it is unfathomable? No, not about some relationship or another, I mean at the *seeming* core. But then, that's when you realize that the *core* is not really the core. - Original Message - From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Not to be misunderstoodkidding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4oKyO2YbRcfeature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. TEN LITTLE MEDITATORS One little meditator Found life good and true, An old friend found him And then there were two. Two little meditators Content
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZRnkBK_0no1 Traditionally, 60 years makes a cycle of a life and 61 is regarded as the beginning of a new life cycle, a very important point of life and therefore there is often a big celebration only then and we do not pay a lot of attention to birthdays until you are 60 years old. After that, a birthday celebration is held every ten years, that is the 70th, the 80th, etc, When one is 60 years old, one is expected to have a big family filled with children and grandchildren. It is an age to be proud of. That's why elderly people start to celebrate their birthdays at 60. You asked --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: sorry missed your post esp. since here at mount Meru only over 60s are celebrated and acknowledged but nevertheless a very late late in the night Happy birthday ! whisper-whisper-wish Not a clue what all that means, but thanks. L. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: [...]rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. You certainly seems to have your hands full :-) Yeah, its a tremendously long series. The author died before he could finish it, but his wife commissioned another writer to complete the last volume from his notes and rough drafts. Today is my 57th birthday. Happy birthday ! Thanks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjF1bG5LUcsfeature=share ;-) L
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote: � ---� turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: [...] With all due respect, Buck, one of the things I've noticed is what direction people choose to face as they get older, and thus closer to the end of their lives. Some -- many -- tend to face backwards, gazing into the past, searching for some kind of inspiration or comfort there. Others are facing forward, involved in the present and looking forward to the future. I wouldn't expect either Curtis or I to check into the Old Folk's Dome anytime soon if I were you. ---� sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Excluded middle thinking. Currently, I am trying to learn: Tensor Analysis, how to rotate a pyramid of balls in each hand simultaneously, 3-club toss juggling, 4 ball toss juggling, as well as reviving my classical guitar skills, helping create a new computer hardware and programming paradigm, rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. Today is my 57th birthday. I would be very happy spending a few hours (up to 8) in the Old Folks Dome so that I would have more energy and better concentration the rest of my day. L. � It's been a long time since we spoke to each other.� Hope you had a happy and insightfull birthday Lawson. Have you thought about this logically?� If you didn't exist before you were born, then you probably will not exist after you die. But, if you did exist before you were born, You will exist after you die. I wonder what is your take on this after 57 years on this plane.? You're assuming that this is plane, you know... And, my thoughts now are similar to my thoughts from many decades ago when I first thought about this stuff: huh? Dunno. L. If you can remember before you were born, then you can remember after you die, that this was all just a dream... Just a dream; That... incredible lightness of being... The soul is the Soul is the soul...Atman Atma Jiva Jiva Atma
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz_tG7RTNqI Now that's some depressing music, merudanda. Muslim forgiveness music is suitably mournful for feeling shitty about your sins. It seems as though a fundamentalist Muslim's only hope for happiness is paradise in the afterlife. They're not much different from fundamentalist Christians who live in fear of a wrathful God manifesting his power willy-nilly, killing thousands in a tsunami. Then just to let everyone know he means business, God miraculously inscribes his name on a feather, in a bee hive, and in clouds floating in the sky. A Muslim's belief in signs of God power to smite or redeem is reminiscent of the fundamentalist Christian who bid $28,000 on Ebay for a decade-old toasted cheese sandwich bearing the image of the Virgin Mary. Music that doesn't make you feel like running yourself over with Em's lawnmower: http://youtu.be/evlmfml7HdI I confess and repent enjoying your sinful writing [;)] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:stunned and worried about your regular and really heavy work let me at least help you out with the wording: Confiteor Deo omnipoténti quia peccávi nimis cogitatióne, verbo et ópere: (percutit sibi pectus ter, dicens / Strike breast three times )and now comes: [:x] Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa Dominus noster te absolvat Dominus Tecum :)Et Dominus noster tecum. Ave Emilia .Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui,dimÃssis peccátis tuis, perdúcat te ad vitam ætérnam. Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5cF5GGqVWofeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5ZmQQM8AEfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6dWJJCfPM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPmewlHK4Ufeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zdDb72yIF4feature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 2:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. And now the picture's gone, but still the dust remains ... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: And P.S. In attempting to lift the invention that is the rented lawnmower into the back of my jeep, I lost strength and dropped it about 3 feet, the force of which propelled me into a full backwards somersault down the slope of my driveway. I looked up to see the lawnmower rolling down the driveway towards the street. After a few more deep breaths and focus, I was able to barely heft the heavy hunk of steel into the back of the jeep, where I wondered on my way to return it whether I should tell them I dropped it - after all, I did not purchase the $3 damage warrantee. I decided not to. Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat; et ego auctoritate ipsius te absolvo ab omni vinculo excommunicationis (suspensionis) et interdicti in quantum possum et tu indiges. Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, + et Spiritus Sancti. Amen. Passio Domini nostri Jesu Christi, merita Beatae Mariae Virginis et omnium sanctorum, quidquid boni feceris vel mali sustinueris sint tibi in remissionem peccatorum, augmentum gratiae et praemium vitae aeternae. Amen. Pretty funny really and I came to the conclusion I need to stop rolling around in all these emotions Laudetur Jesus Christus -In aeternum! Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5Kk2QfaEE and get to reinventing the illusion that is my life. The Pursuit of Unhappiness- The story of the hammer #285973 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/285973 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Join The Magic User's Club and Get Up Off a That Thing Release the Pressure/ and dance 'til you feel better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWZDDy2CUMfeature=fvst --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Of course, anger is really grief, right? Unfathomable. Now, on with the day. The invention that is the lawnmower, is sitting for a four-week wait at the repair shop. So I had to rent a lawnmower yesterday. They go for $36 for 24 hours. And I am not talking about the kind you sit in. So, having mowed the lawn, I have to return it quickly. And, then, it's off to pick a countertop for the kitchen. Another busy day :) From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. I
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I was just working my way through the repentence music :) I get worse and worse at repenting the older I get, I must admit. AMMA is back! Ha ha ha. The bhajans were the best part of the experience for sure for me - her choir was excellent. Of course, I threw away all the CD's I boughtwhich I kind of regretted after the fact. From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz_tG7RTNqI Now that's some depressing music, merudanda. Muslim forgiveness music is suitably mournful for feeling shitty about your sins. It seems as though a fundamentalist Muslim's only hope for happiness is paradise in the afterlife. They're not much different from fundamentalist Christians who live in fear of a wrathful God manifesting his power willy-nilly, killing thousands in a tsunami. Then just to let everyone know he means business, God miraculously inscribes his name on a feather, in a bee hive, and in clouds floating in the sky. A Muslim's belief in signs of God power to smite or redeem is reminiscent of the fundamentalist Christian who bid $28,000 on Ebay for a decade-old toasted cheese sandwich bearing the image of the Virgin Mary. Music that doesn't make you feel like running yourself over with Em's lawnmower: http://youtu.be/evlmfml7HdI I confess and repent enjoying your sinful writing [;)] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:stunned and worried about your regular and really heavy work let me at least help you out with the wording: Confiteor Deo omnipoténti quia peccávi nimis cogitatióne, verbo et ópere: (percutit sibi pectus ter, dicens / Strike breast three times )and now comes: [:x] Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa Dominus noster te absolvat Dominus Tecum :)Et Dominus noster tecum. Ave Emilia .Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui,dimÃssis peccátis tuis, perdúcat te ad vitam ætérnam. Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5cF5GGqVWofeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5ZmQQM8AEfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6dWJJCfPM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPmewlHK4Ufeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zdDb72yIF4feature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 2:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. And now the picture's gone, but still the dust remains ... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: And P.S. In attempting to lift the invention that is the rented lawnmower into the back of my jeep, I lost strength and dropped it about 3 feet, the force of which propelled me into a full backwards somersault down the slope of my driveway. I looked up to see the lawnmower rolling down the driveway towards the street. After a few more deep breaths and focus, I was able to barely heft the heavy hunk of steel into the back of the jeep, where I wondered on my way to return it whether I should tell them I dropped it - after all, I did not purchase the $3 damage warrantee. I decided not to. Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat; et ego auctoritate ipsius te absolvo ab omni vinculo excommunicationis (suspensionis) et interdicti in quantum possum et tu indiges. Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, + et Spiritus Sancti. Amen. Passio Domini nostri Jesu Christi, merita Beatae Mariae Virginis et omnium sanctorum, quidquid boni feceris vel mali sustinueris sint tibi in remissionem peccatorum, augmentum gratiae et praemium vitae aeternae. Amen. Pretty funny really and I came to the conclusion I need to stop rolling around in all these emotions Laudetur Jesus Christus -In aeternum! Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5Kk2QfaEE and get to reinventing the illusion that is my life. The Pursuit of Unhappiness- The story of the hammer #285973 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/285973 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Join The Magic User's Club and Get Up Off a That Thing Release the Pressure/ and dance 'til you feel better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWZDDy2CUMfeature=fvst --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: Of course, anger is really grief, right? Unfathomable. Now, on with the day. The invention that is the lawnmower, is sitting for a four-week wait
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I was just working my way through the repentence music :)  I get worse and worse at repenting the older I get, I must admit.  AMMA is back!  Ha ha ha.  The bhajans were the best part of the experience for sure for me - her choir was excellent.  Of course, I threw away all the CD's I boughtwhich I kind of regretted after the fact.  The best part of the experience for me was watching her hug people. http://youtu.be/6UqoMUowj7k From: raunchydog raunchydog@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:47 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz_tG7RTNqI Now that's some depressing music, merudanda. Muslim forgiveness music is suitably mournful for feeling shitty about your sins. It seems as though a fundamentalist Muslim's only hope for happiness is paradise in the afterlife. They're not much different from fundamentalist Christians who live in fear of a wrathful God manifesting his power willy-nilly, killing thousands in a tsunami. Then just to let everyone know he means business, God miraculously inscribes his name on a feather, in a bee hive, and in clouds floating in the sky. A Muslim's belief in signs of God power to smite or redeem is reminiscent of the fundamentalist Christian who bid $28,000 on Ebay for a decade-old toasted cheese sandwich bearing the image of the Virgin Mary. Music that doesn't make you feel like running yourself over with Em's lawnmower: http://youtu.be/evlmfml7HdI I confess and repent enjoying your sinful writing [;)] --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:stunned and worried about your regular and really heavy work let me at least help you out with the wording: Confiteor Deo omnipoténti quia peccávi nimis cogitatióne, verbo et ópere: (percutit sibi pectus ter, dicens / Strike breast three times )and now comes: [:x] Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa Dominus noster te absolvat Dominus Tecum :)Et Dominus noster tecum. Ave Emilia .Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui,dimÃÂssis peccátis tuis, perdúcat te ad vitam ætérnam. Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5cF5GGqVWofeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5ZmQQM8AEfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6dWJJCfPM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPmewlHK4Ufeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zdDb72yIF4feature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 2:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. And now the picture's gone, but still the dust remains ... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: And P.S. In attempting to lift the invention that is the rented lawnmower into the back of my jeep, I lost strength and dropped it about 3 feet, the force of which propelled me into a full backwards somersault down the slope of my driveway. I looked up to see the lawnmower rolling down the driveway towards the street. After a few more deep breaths and focus, I was able to barely heft the heavy hunk of steel into the back of the jeep, where I wondered on my way to return it whether I should tell them I dropped it - after all, I did not purchase the $3 damage warrantee. I decided not to. Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat; et ego auctoritate ipsius te absolvo ab omni vinculo excommunicationis (suspensionis) et interdicti in quantum possum et tu indiges. Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, + et Spiritus Sancti. Amen. Passio Domini nostri Jesu Christi, merita Beatae Mariae Virginis et omnium sanctorum, quidquid boni feceris vel mali sustinueris sint tibi in remissionem peccatorum, augmentum gratiae et praemium vitae aeternae. Amen. Pretty funny really and I came to the conclusion I need to stop rolling around in all these emotions Laudetur Jesus Christus -In aeternum! Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5Kk2QfaEE and get to reinventing the illusion that is my life. The Pursuit of Unhappiness- The story of the hammer #285973 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/285973 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Join The Magic User's Club and Get Up Off a That Thing Release the Pressure/ and dance 'til you feel better
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Merudanda, Tee Hee. Outed again...Latin eludes me, with the exception of the most well-known and basic phrases. Can't fake anyone here out easily. Ave Maria est tres jolie :) No worries needed, and I did think the backwards somersault was a stunning accomplishment :) Could have waited for the neighbors to help, as the poem implied. Ah, the superhuman strength of an angry woman - I'm not so strong any more, it turns out. But, someone has to document the trials and tribulations of a non-daily meditator :) Speaking of meditation, I have been attempting some version of meditation once a week on the cranial sacral therapist's table, located in a backyard studio, for an hour and a half at a time, concurrent with the session. No mantra...focusing on the breath. The last two times, at some point during my meditation, my head has sort of exploded with bright light, and it feels particularly also like a warm ray of sun is shining through the window into the left side of my brain. This was odd the first time it happened, because it was pouring rain outside, and I didn't say anything. The second time, I asked him after the session if the sun had been shining through the window. Guess not. But, I did feel significantly more relaxed and grounded in my body, so to speak, and lighter - physically lighter. The dark clouds that reside in my head dissipated and are waning. I think a regular practice would do me good, and if a more calm, relaxed state was ever all I achieved, it would be worth it. I was actually quite fascinated by that Lorin Roche article on the hazards of meditation and thought it excellent in many regards. In my case, I think this sentence applies the best: And at the same time, the hazards of meditating have to be compared to the hazards of NOT meditating. What is the cost to you in your life of just jumping up and running out the door in the morning every day, without fully waking up? What is the hazard to you of walking in the door every day after work and NOT meditating, not fully relaxing and letting go of the stress of the day? The cost of not meditating can be really significant. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 5:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz_tG7RTNqI I confess and repent enjoying your sinful writing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:stunned and worried about your regular and really heavy work let me at least help you out with the wording: Confiteor Deo omnipoténti quia peccávi nimis cogitatióne, verbo et ópere: (percutit sibi pectus ter, dicens / Strike breast three times )and now comes: Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa Dominus noster te absolvat Dominus Tecum :)Et Dominus noster tecum. Ave Emilia .Benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui,dimÃssis peccátis tuis, perdúcat te ad vitam ætérnam. Amen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5cF5GGqVWofeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5ZmQQM8AEfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6dWJJCfPM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGPmewlHK4Ufeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zdDb72yIF4feature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 2:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. And now the picture's gone, but still the dust remains ... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: And P.S. In attempting to lift the invention that is the rented lawnmower into the back of my jeep, I lost strength and dropped it about 3 feet, the force of which propelled me into a full backwards somersault down the slope of my driveway. I looked up to see the lawnmower rolling down the driveway towards the street. After a few more deep breaths and focus, I was able to barely heft the heavy hunk of steel into the back of the jeep, where I wondered on my way to return it whether I should tell them I dropped it - after all, I did not purchase the $3 damage warrantee. I decided not to. Dominus noster Jesus Christus te absolvat; et ego auctoritate ipsius te absolvo ab omni vinculo excommunicationis (suspensionis) et interdicti in quantum possum et tu indiges. Deinde, ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Patris, et Filii, + et Spiritus Sancti. Amen. Passio Domini nostri Jesu Christi, merita Beatae Mariae Virginis et omnium sanctorum, quidquid boni feceris vel mali sustinueris sint tibi in remissionem peccatorum, augmentum gratiae et praemium vitae aeternae. Amen. Pretty funny really and I came to the conclusion I need to stop rolling around in all these emotions Laudetur Jesus Christus -In aeternum! Amen. http
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [...] With all due respect, Buck, one of the things I've noticed is what direction people choose to face as they get older, and thus closer to the end of their lives. Some -- many -- tend to face backwards, gazing into the past, searching for some kind of inspiration or comfort there. Others are facing forward, involved in the present and looking forward to the future. I wouldn't expect either Curtis or I to check into the Old Folk's Dome anytime soon if I were you. Excluded middle thinking. Currently, I am trying to learn: Tensor Analysis, how to rotate a pyramid of balls in each hand simultaneously, 3-club toss juggling, 4 ball toss juggling, as well as reviving my classical guitar skills, helping create a new computer hardware and programming paradigm, rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. Today is my 57th birthday. I would be very happy spending a few hours (up to 8) in the Old Folks Dome so that I would have more energy and better concentration the rest of my day. L.
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Happy Birthday! From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [...] With all due respect, Buck, one of the things I've noticed is what direction people choose to face as they get older, and thus closer to the end of their lives. Some -- many -- tend to face backwards, gazing into the past, searching for some kind of inspiration or comfort there. Others are facing forward, involved in the present and looking forward to the future. I wouldn't expect either Curtis or I to check into the Old Folk's Dome anytime soon if I were you. Excluded middle thinking. Currently, I am trying to learn: Tensor Analysis, how to rotate a pyramid of balls in each hand simultaneously, 3-club toss juggling, 4 ball toss juggling, as well as reviving my classical guitar skills, helping create a new computer hardware and programming paradigm, rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. Today is my 57th birthday. I would be very happy spending a few hours (up to 8) in the Old Folks Dome so that I would have more energy and better concentration the rest of my day. L.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Happy Birthday! Thanks. A sign of my life: online people remember my birthday. In real life? Only my roommate has. Family and friends, not-so-much, at least not yet. L.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: [...] With all due respect, Buck, one of the things I've noticed is what direction people choose to face as they get older, and thus closer to the end of their lives. Some -- many -- tend to face backwards, gazing into the past, searching for some kind of inspiration or comfort there. Others are facing forward, involved in the present and looking forward to the future. I wouldn't expect either Curtis or I to check into the Old Folk's Dome anytime soon if I were you. Excluded middle thinking. Currently, I am trying to learn: Tensor Analysis, how to rotate a pyramid of balls in each hand simultaneously, 3-club toss juggling, 4 ball toss juggling, as well as reviving my classical guitar skills, helping create a new computer hardware and programming paradigm, rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. You certainly seems to have your hands full :-) Today is my 57th birthday. Happy birthday ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjF1bG5LUcsfeature=share I would be very happy spending a few hours (up to 8) in the Old Folks Dome so that I would have more energy and better concentration the rest of my day. L.
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Many happy returns, Lawson. So glad you joined us again. Hope you can stick around for awhile with all the other things you're juggling (literally and figuratively). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: [...] With all due respect, Buck, one of the things I've noticed is what direction people choose to face as they get older, and thus closer to the end of their lives. Some -- many -- tend to face backwards, gazing into the past, searching for some kind of inspiration or comfort there. Others are facing forward, involved in the present and looking forward to the future. I wouldn't expect either Curtis or I to check into the Old Folk's Dome anytime soon if I were you. Excluded middle thinking. Currently, I am trying to learn: Tensor Analysis, how to rotate a pyramid of balls in each hand simultaneously, 3-club toss juggling, 4 ball toss juggling, as well as reviving my classical guitar skills, helping create a new computer hardware and programming paradigm, rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. Today is my 57th birthday. I would be very happy spending a few hours (up to 8) in the Old Folks Dome so that I would have more energy and better concentration the rest of my day. L.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: snip Currently, I am trying to learn: Tensor Analysis, how to rotate a pyramid of balls in each hand simultaneously, 3-club toss juggling, 4 ball toss juggling, as well as reviving my classical guitar skills, helping create a new computer hardware and programming paradigm, rereading The Wheel of TIme, trying to loose weight. You certainly seems to have your hands full :-) LOL. Good one, Nabby.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Many happy returns, Lawson. So glad you joined us again. Hope you can stick around for awhile with all the other things you're juggling (literally and figuratively). Thanks. Though, to be honest, just because I'm trying to do all these things, doesn't mean I'm working on all of them consistently. Flying in the Domes would provide a great deal of structure to my life that it currently lacks. L
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Om, I take that back. It wasn't Curtis in the Dome unless I missed him entirely. I went over and looked closer at the guy. Older-age Italian look dark hair and all. But not. There's a lot of people in the Dome meditating. Once people come in for meditation it is quiet. It's real nice and meditative. I walked around that way coming in and it wasn't him. I hoped it was. I think he'd like it if he gave it a chance again.Hell, there are proly some atheists in there too. There are all kinds of people meditating there and you don't need no faith. It's palpably a very spiritual place. It's a lot like old homecoming in there too. I got friends and friendships from going back 40 years there.I hope for a day that both Curtis and Turqb can join us once again for group meditation in the Dome. There's a lot of people coming back. -Buck, in the Dome --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF [:(] [#-o] Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF?back again [#-o] ? not Buck in the Dome? [:D] atAll the Nature's home Forgot your flying foam? [;)] or Kicked out of TMO's Rome? again- again? what a shame What a shame, what a shame, To judge a life that you can't change The choir sings, the Dome bells ring And nobody won't give this man his wings? Is that's the man he was? Haven't we heard enough? Haven't we both heard enough This is what we're gonna do Let me put my arms around you once more There's nothing left here to prove Walk just back a little bit slower Better don't hold on tight, Will You ever learn to let it go To Break Through to the other side I keep wondering, wondering, wondering When were you ever gonna let me know That you just wanted something else in life What do you say when it's all over What do you know when nothing's going right The troubles in your mind What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do you go when all's gone What do you say nothing at all It was so hard when I watched you falling down But it was time for you to walk alone Just know if you really need a friend And you're feeling like you can't go on Just walk back just a little bit faster Take my hand I will blow your fears away We'll Break Through to the other side For bitter or worse I know you better than anyone else And I'll be by your side What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's all gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when ALL's gone What do you say nothing at all When it all becomes Reality That this is where it ends for you and me What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's All gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when home's gone What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at All The Moon chased by the colorful clouds Silver Clouds Chasing the Moon [:D] waan waan yuè ér yè jiàn nóng yuè guang bàn qaang faang yuè sè gaang méng lóng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3JT5giyVMM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDWIeUmwgqcfeature=related --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: See, no regrets. Â No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on. Â Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Â Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Om, I take that back. It wasn't Curtis in the Dome unless I missed him entirely. I went over and looked closer at the guy. Older-age Italian look dark hair and all. But not. There's a lot of people in the Dome meditating. Once people come in for meditation it is quiet. It's real nice and meditative. Duh. I mean, duh. :-) I walked around that way coming in and it wasn't him. I hoped it was. I think he'd like it if he gave it a chance again. Hell, there are proly some atheists in there too. There are all kinds of people meditating there and you don't need no faith. It's palpably a very spiritual place. It's a lot like old homecoming in there too. I got friends and friendships from going back 40 years there. I hope for a day that both Curtis and Turqb can join us once again for group meditation in the Dome. There's a lot of people coming back. -Buck, in the Dome With all due respect, Buck, one of the things I've noticed is what direction people choose to face as they get older, and thus closer to the end of their lives. Some -- many -- tend to face backwards, gazing into the past, searching for some kind of inspiration or comfort there. Others are facing forward, involved in the present and looking forward to the future. I wouldn't expect either Curtis or I to check into the Old Folk's Dome anytime soon if I were you.
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A, I do sooo need to get over myself and stop muttering. Point taken. Thank you as always. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Join The Magic User's Club and Get Up Off a That Thing Release the Pressure/ and dance 'til you feel better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWZDDy2CUMfeature=fvst --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Of course, anger is really grief, right? Unfathomable. Now, on with the day. The invention that is the lawnmower, is sitting for a four-week wait at the repair shop. So I had to rent a lawnmower yesterday. They go for $36 for 24 hours. And I am not talking about the kind you sit in. So, having mowed the lawn, I have to return it quickly. And, then, it's off to pick a countertop for the kitchen. Another busy day :) From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. I mean, have you *ever* woken up and found that you are in a rage so deep and wide and high, that it is unfathomable? No, not about some relationship or another, I mean at the *seeming* core. But then, that's when you realize that the *core* is not really the core. - Original Message - From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Not to be misunderstoodkidding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4oKyO2YbRcfeature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. TEN LITTLE MEDITATORS One little meditator Found life good and true, An old friend found him And then there were two. Two little meditators Content beneath a tree, A tired man rested there And then there were three. Three little meditators Learning more and more, A young scholar joined them And then there were four. Four little meditators Glad to be alive, A sick man hobbled by And then there were five. Five little meditators Never in a fix, A muddled man came along And then there were six. Six little meditators On the road to Heaven, A wicked man followed them And then there were seven. Seven little meditators In a blissful state, A lost boy asked the way And then there were eight. Eight little meditators Meditating in a line, A dreamer stumbled over them And then there were nine. Nine little meditators Happy, peaceful men, A worried man needed help And then there were ten. Ten little meditators Continue to increase, And on they go across the world Spreading happiness and peace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: See, no regrets. Â No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on. Â Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF? not Buck in the Dome? atAll the Nature's home Forgot your flying foam? or Kicked out of TMO's Rome again- again? what a shame What a shame, what a shame, To judge a life that you can't change The choir sings, the Dome bells ring And nobody won't give this man his wings? Is that's the man he was? Haven't we heard enough? Haven't we both heard enough This is what we're gonna do Let me put my arms around you once more There's nothing left here to prove Walk just back a little bit slower Better don't hold on tight, Will You ever learn to let it go To Break Through to the other side I keep wondering, wondering, wondering When were you ever gonna let me know That you just wanted something else in life What do you say when it's all over What do you know when nothing's going right The troubles in your mind What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do you go when all's gone What do you say nothing at all It was so hard when I watched you falling down But it was time for you to walk alone Just know if you really need a friend And you're feeling like you can't go on Just walk back just a little bit faster Take my hand I will blow your fears away We'll Break Through to the other side For bitter or worse I know you better than anyone else And I'll be by your side
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And P.S. In attempting to lift the invention that is the rented lawnmower into the back of my jeep, I lost strength and dropped it about 3 feet, the force of which propelled me into a full backwards somersault down the slope of my driveway. I looked up to see the lawnmower rolling down the driveway towards the street. After a few more deep breaths and focus, I was able to barely heft the heavy hunk of steel into the back of the jeep, where I wondered on my way to return it whether I should tell them I dropped it - after all, I did not purchase the $3 damage warrantee. I decided not to. Pretty funny really and I came to the conclusion I need to stop rolling around in all these emotions and get to reinventing the illusion that is my life. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 10:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Join The Magic User's Club and Get Up Off a That Thing Release the Pressure/ and dance 'til you feel better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWZDDy2CUMfeature=fvst --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Of course, anger is really grief, right? Unfathomable. Now, on with the day. The invention that is the lawnmower, is sitting for a four-week wait at the repair shop. So I had to rent a lawnmower yesterday. They go for $36 for 24 hours. And I am not talking about the kind you sit in. So, having mowed the lawn, I have to return it quickly. And, then, it's off to pick a countertop for the kitchen. Another busy day :) From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. I mean, have you *ever* woken up and found that you are in a rage so deep and wide and high, that it is unfathomable? No, not about some relationship or another, I mean at the *seeming* core. But then, that's when you realize that the *core* is not really the core. - Original Message - From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Not to be misunderstoodkidding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4oKyO2YbRcfeature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. TEN LITTLE MEDITATORS One little meditator Found life good and true, An old friend found him And then there were two. Two little meditators Content beneath a tree, A tired man rested there And then there were three. Three little meditators Learning more and more, A young scholar joined them And then there were four. Four little meditators Glad to be alive, A sick man hobbled by And then there were five. Five little meditators Never in a fix, A muddled man came along And then there were six. Six little meditators On the road to Heaven, A wicked man followed them And then there were seven. Seven little meditators In a blissful state, A lost boy asked the way And then there were eight. Eight little meditators Meditating in a line, A dreamer stumbled over them And then there were nine. Nine little meditators Happy, peaceful men, A worried man needed help And then there were ten. Ten little meditators Continue to increase, And on they go across the world Spreading happiness and peace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: See, no regrets. Â No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on. Â Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF? not Buck in the Dome? atAll the Nature's home Forgot your flying foam? or Kicked out of TMO's Rome again- again? what a shame What a shame, what a shame, To judge a life that you can't change The choir sings, the Dome bells ring And nobody won't give this man his wings? Is that's the man he was? Haven't we heard enough? Haven't we both heard enough This is what we're gonna do Let me put my arms around you once more There's nothing left here to prove Walk just back a little bit slower Better don't hold on tight, Will You ever learn to let it go To Break Through to the other side I keep wondering, wondering, wondering When were you ever
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
TEN LITTLE MEDITATORS One little meditator Found life good and true, An old friend found him And then there were two. Two little meditators Content beneath a tree, A tired man rested there And then there were three. Three little meditators Learning more and more, A young scholar joined them And then there were four. Four little meditators Glad to be alive, A sick man hobbled by And then there were five. Five little meditators Never in a fix, A muddled man came along And then there were six. Six little meditators On the road to Heaven, A wicked man followed them And then there were seven. Seven little meditators In a blissful state, A lost boy asked the way And then there were eight. Eight little meditators Meditating in a line, A dreamer stumbled over them And then there were nine. Nine little meditators Happy, peaceful men, A worried man needed help And then there were ten. Ten little meditators Continue to increase, And on they go across the world Spreading happiness and peace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: See, no regrets. Â No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on. Â Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Â Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that initiators were not treated as the devoted souls they were - at least during the late 70's and 80's. There was super hierarchical feel in some groups. (I also have good memories of higher ups in the TMO being very respectful of anyone (even without money) who taught TM. Keith WAllace comes to mind, and Jerry too.. I sensed things changed a while ago, and especially in the last few years. Money will always separate people in many ways but maybe things are different now. I do not know. You did great things, all those pujas, And seeing the peace on the faces of some of the people who learned TM from you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Why? Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an insider. Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis et alia were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access. And also, I saw a parade of rich folks getting access -- there's one incident that still burns in my mind: a rich person came to our Majorca course and sat next to Maharishi and held his hand while being interviewed. HELD HIS HAND! Up to that time, I'd only heard that Maharishi had done that ONCE while walking with Tat Wala Baba. Yet a rich guy had not even been informed (warned) about movement protocols such that he showed such outrageous familiarity. And then there was the course office goons who made it their thing to put everyone in their place. Nah, I never was important to the movement even after 2,000 people taught.my reward: they took away my five thousand dollars worth of earned credits towards ATR and advanced techniques. Poor Edg really got the shaft, wellyour reward will be in heaven! ;-) PS I can relate... And then after moving to Fairfield, MSAE turns out to be run by the rich parents. And then the raja thingie pretty much topped
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
TEN LITTLE MEDITATORS One little meditator Found life good and true, An old friend found him And then there were two. Two little meditators Content beneath a tree, A tired man rested there And then there were three. Three little meditators Learning more and more, A young scholar joined them And then there were four. Four little meditators Glad to be alive, A sick man hobbled by And then there were five. Five little meditators Never in a fix, A muddled man came along And then there were six. Six little meditators On the road to Heaven, A wicked man followed them And then there were seven. Seven little meditators In a blissful state, A lost boy asked the way And then there were eight. Eight little meditators Meditating in a line, A dreamer stumbled over them And then there were nine. Nine little meditators Happy, peaceful men, A worried man needed help And then there were ten. Ten little meditators Continue to increase, And on they go across the world Spreading happiness and peace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: See, no regrets.  No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on.  Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF? not Buck in the Dome? [:D] atAll the Nature's home Forgot your flying foam? [;)] or Kicked out of TMO's Rome again- again? what a shame What a shame, what a shame, To judge a life that you can't change The choir sings, the Dome bells ring And nobody won't give this man his wings? Is that's the man he was? Haven't we heard enough? Haven't we both heard enough This is what we're gonna do Let me put my arms around you once more There's nothing left here to prove Walk just back a little bit slower Better don't hold on tight, Will You ever learn to let it go To Break Through to the other side I keep wondering, wondering, wondering When were you ever gonna let me know That you just wanted something else in life What do you say when it's all over What do you know when nothing's going right The troubles in your mind What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do you go when all's gone What do you say nothing at all It was so hard when I watched you falling down But it was time for you to walk alone Just know if you really need a friend And you're feeling like you can't go on Just walk back just a little bit faster Take my hand I will blow your fears away We'll Break Through to the other side For bitter or worse I know you better than anyone else And I'll be by your side What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's all gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when ALL's gone What do you say nothing at all When it all becomes Reality That this is where it ends for you and me What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's All gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when home's gone What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at All The Moon chased by the colorful clouds Silver Clouds Chasing the Moon wÄn wÄn yuè ér yè jiàn nóng yuè guÄng bàn qÄ«ng fÄng yuè sè gÄng méng lóng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3JT5giyVMM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDWIeUmwgqcfeature=related From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.  Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that initiators were not treated as the devoted souls
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF [:(] [#-o] Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF?back again [#-o] ? not Buck in the Dome? [:D] atAll the Nature's home Forgot your flying foam? [;)] or Kicked out of TMO's Rome? again- again? what a shame What a shame, what a shame, To judge a life that you can't change The choir sings, the Dome bells ring And nobody won't give this man his wings? Is that's the man he was? Haven't we heard enough? Haven't we both heard enough This is what we're gonna do Let me put my arms around you once more There's nothing left here to prove Walk just back a little bit slower Better don't hold on tight, Will You ever learn to let it go To Break Through to the other side I keep wondering, wondering, wondering When were you ever gonna let me know That you just wanted something else in life What do you say when it's all over What do you know when nothing's going right The troubles in your mind What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do you go when all's gone What do you say nothing at all It was so hard when I watched you falling down But it was time for you to walk alone Just know if you really need a friend And you're feeling like you can't go on Just walk back just a little bit faster Take my hand I will blow your fears away We'll Break Through to the other side For bitter or worse I know you better than anyone else And I'll be by your side What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's all gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when ALL's gone What do you say nothing at all When it all becomes Reality That this is where it ends for you and me What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's All gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when home's gone What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at All The Moon chased by the colorful clouds Silver Clouds Chasing the Moon [:D] waan waan yuè ér yè jiàn nóng yuè guang bàn qaang faang yuè sè gaang méng lóng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3JT5giyVMM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDWIeUmwgqcfeature=related --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: See, no regrets. Â No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on. Â Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Â Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that initiators were not treated as the devoted souls they were - at least during the late 70's and 80's. There was super hierarchical feel in some groups. (I also have good memories of higher ups in the TMO being very respectful of anyone (even without money) who taught TM. Keith WAllace comes to mind, and Jerry too.. I sensed things changed a while ago, and especially in the last few years. Money will always separate people in many ways but maybe things are different now. I do not know. You did great things, all those pujas, And seeing the peace on the faces of some of the people who learned TM from you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Why? Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right
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Not to be misunderstoodkidding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4oKyO2YbRcfeature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. TEN LITTLE MEDITATORS One little meditator Found life good and true, An old friend found him And then there were two. Two little meditators Content beneath a tree, A tired man rested there And then there were three. Three little meditators Learning more and more, A young scholar joined them And then there were four. Four little meditators Glad to be alive, A sick man hobbled by And then there were five. Five little meditators Never in a fix, A muddled man came along And then there were six. Six little meditators On the road to Heaven, A wicked man followed them And then there were seven. Seven little meditators In a blissful state, A lost boy asked the way And then there were eight. Eight little meditators Meditating in a line, A dreamer stumbled over them And then there were nine. Nine little meditators Happy, peaceful men, A worried man needed help And then there were ten. Ten little meditators Continue to increase, And on they go across the world Spreading happiness and peace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: See, no regrets.  No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on.  Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF? not Buck in the Dome? atAll the Nature's home Forgot your flying foam? or Kicked out of TMO's Rome again- again? what a shame What a shame, what a shame, To judge a life that you can't change The choir sings, the Dome bells ring And nobody won't give this man his wings? Is that's the man he was? Haven't we heard enough? Haven't we both heard enough This is what we're gonna do Let me put my arms around you once more There's nothing left here to prove Walk just back a little bit slower Better don't hold on tight, Will You ever learn to let it go To Break Through to the other side I keep wondering, wondering, wondering When were you ever gonna let me know That you just wanted something else in life What do you say when it's all over What do you know when nothing's going right The troubles in your mind What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do you go when all's gone What do you say nothing at all It was so hard when I watched you falling down But it was time for you to walk alone Just know if you really need a friend And you're feeling like you can't go on Just walk back just a little bit faster Take my hand I will blow your fears away We'll Break Through to the other side For bitter or worse I know you better than anyone else And I'll be by your side What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's all gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when ALL's gone What do you say nothing at all When it all becomes Reality That this is where it ends for you and me What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's All gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when home's gone What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at All The Moon chased by the colorful clouds Silver Clouds Chasing the Moon wÄ�n wÄ�n yuè ér yè jiàn nóng yuè guÄ�ng bàn qÄ«ng fÄng yuè sè gÄng méng lóng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3JT5giyVMM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDWIeUmwgqcfeature=related From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.  Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated
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I mean, have you *ever* woken up and found that you are in a rage so deep and wide and high, that it is unfathomable? No, not about some relationship or another, I mean at the *seeming* core. But then, that's when you realize that the *core* is not really the core. - Original Message - From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Not to be misunderstoodkidding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4oKyO2YbRcfeature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. TEN LITTLE MEDITATORS One little meditator Found life good and true, An old friend found him And then there were two. Two little meditators Content beneath a tree, A tired man rested there And then there were three. Three little meditators Learning more and more, A young scholar joined them And then there were four. Four little meditators Glad to be alive, A sick man hobbled by And then there were five. Five little meditators Never in a fix, A muddled man came along And then there were six. Six little meditators On the road to Heaven, A wicked man followed them And then there were seven. Seven little meditators In a blissful state, A lost boy asked the way And then there were eight. Eight little meditators Meditating in a line, A dreamer stumbled over them And then there were nine. Nine little meditators Happy, peaceful men, A worried man needed help And then there were ten. Ten little meditators Continue to increase, And on they go across the world Spreading happiness and peace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: See, no regrets.  No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on.  Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF? not Buck in the Dome? atAll the Nature's home Forgot your flying foam? or Kicked out of TMO's Rome again- again? what a shame What a shame, what a shame, To judge a life that you can't change The choir sings, the Dome bells ring And nobody won't give this man his wings? Is that's the man he was? Haven't we heard enough? Haven't we both heard enough This is what we're gonna do Let me put my arms around you once more There's nothing left here to prove Walk just back a little bit slower Better don't hold on tight, Will You ever learn to let it go To Break Through to the other side I keep wondering, wondering, wondering When were you ever gonna let me know That you just wanted something else in life What do you say when it's all over What do you know when nothing's going right The troubles in your mind What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do you go when all's gone What do you say nothing at all It was so hard when I watched you falling down But it was time for you to walk alone Just know if you really need a friend And you're feeling like you can't go on Just walk back just a little bit faster Take my hand I will blow your fears away We'll Break Through to the other side For bitter or worse I know you better than anyone else And I'll be by your side What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's all gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when ALL's gone What do you say nothing at all When it all becomes Reality That this is where it ends for you and me What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's All gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when home's gone What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at All The Moon chased by the colorful clouds Silver Clouds Chasing the Moon wÄ�n wÄ�n yuè ér yè jiàn nóng yuè guÄ�ng bàn qÄ«ng fÄng yuè sè gÄng méng lóng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3JT5giyVMM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDWIeUmwgqcfeature=related From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.  Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups
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Of course, anger is really grief, right? Unfathomable. Now, on with the day. The invention that is the lawnmower, is sitting for a four-week wait at the repair shop. So I had to rent a lawnmower yesterday. They go for $36 for 24 hours. And I am not talking about the kind you sit in. So, having mowed the lawn, I have to return it quickly. And, then, it's off to pick a countertop for the kitchen. Another busy day :) From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. I mean, have you *ever* woken up and found that you are in a rage so deep and wide and high, that it is unfathomable? No, not about some relationship or another, I mean at the *seeming* core. But then, that's when you realize that the *core* is not really the core. - Original Message - From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Not to be misunderstoodkidding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4oKyO2YbRcfeature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. TEN LITTLE MEDITATORS One little meditator Found life good and true, An old friend found him And then there were two. Two little meditators Content beneath a tree, A tired man rested there And then there were three. Three little meditators Learning more and more, A young scholar joined them And then there were four. Four little meditators Glad to be alive, A sick man hobbled by And then there were five. Five little meditators Never in a fix, A muddled man came along And then there were six. Six little meditators On the road to Heaven, A wicked man followed them And then there were seven. Seven little meditators In a blissful state, A lost boy asked the way And then there were eight. Eight little meditators Meditating in a line, A dreamer stumbled over them And then there were nine. Nine little meditators Happy, peaceful men, A worried man needed help And then there were ten. Ten little meditators Continue to increase, And on they go across the world Spreading happiness and peace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: See, no regrets.  No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on.  Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF? not Buck in the Dome? atAll the Nature's home Forgot your flying foam? or Kicked out of TMO's Rome again- again? what a shame What a shame, what a shame, To judge a life that you can't change The choir sings, the Dome bells ring And nobody won't give this man his wings? Is that's the man he was? Haven't we heard enough? Haven't we both heard enough This is what we're gonna do Let me put my arms around you once more There's nothing left here to prove Walk just back a little bit slower Better don't hold on tight, Will You ever learn to let it go To Break Through to the other side I keep wondering, wondering, wondering When were you ever gonna let me know That you just wanted something else in life What do you say when it's all over What do you know when nothing's going right The troubles in your mind What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do you go when all's gone What do you say nothing at all It was so hard when I watched you falling down But it was time for you to walk alone Just know if you really need a friend And you're feeling like you can't go on Just walk back just a little bit faster Take my hand I will blow your fears away We'll Break Through to the other side For bitter or worse I know you better than anyone else And I'll be by your side What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's all gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when ALL's gone What do you say nothing at all When it all becomes Reality That this is where it ends for you and me What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's All gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when home's gone What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at all What do you say nothing at All The Moon chased by the colorful clouds Silver Clouds Chasing the Moon wÄ�n wÄ�n yuè ér yè jiàn nóng yuè guÄ�ng bàn qÄ«ng fÄng yuè sè gÄng méng lóng http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3JT5giyVMM http
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
Join The Magic User's Club and Get Up Off a That Thing Release the Pressure/ and dance 'til you feel better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EWZDDy2CUMfeature=fvst --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: Of course, anger is really grief, right? Unfathomable. Now, on with the day. The invention that is the lawnmower, is sitting for a four-week wait at the repair shop. So I had to rent a lawnmower yesterday. They go for $36 for 24 hours. And I am not talking about the kind you sit in. So, having mowed the lawn, I have to return it quickly. And, then, it's off to pick a countertop for the kitchen. Another busy day :) From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. I mean, have you *ever* woken up and found that you are in a rage so deep and wide and high, that it is unfathomable? No, not about some relationship or another, I mean at the *seeming* core. But then, that's when you realize that the *core* is not really the core. - Original Message - From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Not to be misunderstoodkidding. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4oKyO2YbRcfeature=related From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 9:44 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. TEN LITTLE MEDITATORS One little meditator Found life good and true, An old friend found him And then there were two. Two little meditators Content beneath a tree, A tired man rested there And then there were three. Three little meditators Learning more and more, A young scholar joined them And then there were four. Four little meditators Glad to be alive, A sick man hobbled by And then there were five. Five little meditators Never in a fix, A muddled man came along And then there were six. Six little meditators On the road to Heaven, A wicked man followed them And then there were seven. Seven little meditators In a blissful state, A lost boy asked the way And then there were eight. Eight little meditators Meditating in a line, A dreamer stumbled over them And then there were nine. Nine little meditators Happy, peaceful men, A worried man needed help And then there were ten. Ten little meditators Continue to increase, And on they go across the world Spreading happiness and peace. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: See, no regrets. Ã No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on. Ã Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF?Buck in FF? not Buck in the Dome? atAll the Nature's home Forgot your flying foam? or Kicked out of TMO's Rome again- again? what a shame What a shame, what a shame, To judge a life that you can't change The choir sings, the Dome bells ring And nobody won't give this man his wings? Is that's the man he was? Haven't we heard enough? Haven't we both heard enough This is what we're gonna do Let me put my arms around you once more There's nothing left here to prove Walk just back a little bit slower Better don't hold on tight, Will You ever learn to let it go To Break Through to the other side I keep wondering, wondering, wondering When were you ever gonna let me know That you just wanted something else in life What do you say when it's all over What do you know when nothing's going right The troubles in your mind What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do you go when all's gone What do you say nothing at all It was so hard when I watched you falling down But it was time for you to walk alone Just know if you really need a friend And you're feeling like you can't go on Just walk back just a little bit faster Take my hand I will blow your fears away We'll Break Through to the other side For bitter or worse I know you better than anyone else And I'll be by your side What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's all gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go when ALL's gone What do you say nothing at all When it all becomes Reality That this is where it ends for you and me What do you say when it's all over What do you do when it's All gone What do you do when you get lost inside your soul Where do we go
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
Feste37, So I guess any complaints by you are legitimately to be as easily dismissed. O, that's gunna sting, eh? You can never say you were forced into any karma, if it's logical to say that I wasn't forced into mine. But, hey, I agree with you. Who isn't responsible for every speck of their karma? The issue is not that I'm stupid or in denial or that I've always been empowered to change my life (all true;) the issue is that the core selfishness of humans remained untouched by the TM technique such that all these negative dynamics of the movement continued instead of being gradually dissolved by the evolution of the TM culture's individuals' practicing of TM. TM doesn't do jack shit on personality. There's the open truth that true believers try to deny. Dr. Bloomfield. Ed Beckley. The commodities firms. The murder on campus. The serial rapist. The illegality of money-running across international borders. The personalities of the various ninnies ensconced in the niches of the TM bureaucracy. Me. You. Where has TM changed any of the above? THAT was my point, Feste37. That I was surprisingly satisfied that someone here would pat me on the back and say, there there, it's okay, I understand, is another discussion. That I wallow in self-pity still another. You want to be my shrink? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: Edg just likes feeling sorry for himself and playing the victim. No one ever forced him to be in the TM movement or stay in it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey Edg, you know I love you like a brother, but having just seen The Avengers, (sort of dumb I thought. well a little better than John Carter, but not by much), do you feel any affinity to the Incredible Hulk? I mean, really, I do see some resemblance. I think you may be the smartest person here on FFL, but jeez, sometimes that temper flares, and I don't recognize the person who comes out. Just saying Edg. Sometimes that temper flares --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that initiators were not treated as the devoted souls they were - at least during the late 70's and 80's. There was super hierarchical feel in some groups. (I also have good memories of higher ups in the TMO being very respectful of anyone (even without money) who taught TM. Keith WAllace comes to mind, and Jerry too.. I sensed things changed a while ago, and especially in the last few years. Money will always separate people in many ways but maybe things are different now. I do not know. You did great things, all those pujas, And seeing the peace on the faces of some of the people who learned TM from you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Why? Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an insider. Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis et alia were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access. And also, I saw a parade of rich folks getting access -- there's one incident that still burns in my mind: a rich person came to our Majorca course and sat next to Maharishi and held his hand while being interviewed. HELD HIS HAND! Up to that time, I'd only heard that Maharishi had done that ONCE while walking with Tat Wala Baba. Yet a rich guy had not even been informed (warned) about movement protocols such
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
I can't disagree with you here, Edg. You are right. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Feste37, So I guess any complaints by you are legitimately to be as easily dismissed. O, that's gunna sting, eh? You can never say you were forced into any karma, if it's logical to say that I wasn't forced into mine. But, hey, I agree with you. Who isn't responsible for every speck of their karma? The issue is not that I'm stupid or in denial or that I've always been empowered to change my life (all true;) the issue is that the core selfishness of humans remained untouched by the TM technique such that all these negative dynamics of the movement continued instead of being gradually dissolved by the evolution of the TM culture's individuals' practicing of TM. TM doesn't do jack shit on personality. There's the open truth that true believers try to deny. Dr. Bloomfield. Ed Beckley. The commodities firms. The murder on campus. The serial rapist. The illegality of money-running across international borders. The personalities of the various ninnies ensconced in the niches of the TM bureaucracy. Me. You. Where has TM changed any of the above? THAT was my point, Feste37. That I was surprisingly satisfied that someone here would pat me on the back and say, there there, it's okay, I understand, is another discussion. That I wallow in self-pity still another. You want to be my shrink? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Edg just likes feeling sorry for himself and playing the victim. No one ever forced him to be in the TM movement or stay in it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey Edg, you know I love you like a brother, but having just seen The Avengers, (sort of dumb I thought. well a little better than John Carter, but not by much), do you feel any affinity to the Incredible Hulk? I mean, really, I do see some resemblance. I think you may be the smartest person here on FFL, but jeez, sometimes that temper flares, and I don't recognize the person who comes out. Just saying Edg. Sometimes that temper flares --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that initiators were not treated as the devoted souls they were - at least during the late 70's and 80's. There was super hierarchical feel in some groups. (I also have good memories of higher ups in the TMO being very respectful of anyone (even without money) who taught TM. Keith WAllace comes to mind, and Jerry too.. I sensed things changed a while ago, and especially in the last few years. Money will always separate people in many ways but maybe things are different now. I do not know. You did great things, all those pujas, And seeing the peace on the faces of some of the people who learned TM from you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Why? Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an insider. Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis et alia were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access. And also, I saw a parade of rich folks getting access -- there's one incident that still burns in my mind: a rich person came to our Majorca course and sat next to Maharishi and held
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: See, no regrets. Â No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on. Â Hey I'm pretty certain I saw Curtis today in the Dome. Lot of people are coming back. -Buck in FF From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Â Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that initiators were not treated as the devoted souls they were - at least during the late 70's and 80's. There was super hierarchical feel in some groups. (I also have good memories of higher ups in the TMO being very respectful of anyone (even without money) who taught TM. Keith WAllace comes to mind, and Jerry too.. I sensed things changed a while ago, and especially in the last few years. Money will always separate people in many ways but maybe things are different now. I do not know. You did great things, all those pujas, And seeing the peace on the faces of some of the people who learned TM from you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Why? Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an insider. Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis et alia were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access. And also, I saw a parade of rich folks getting access -- there's one incident that still burns in my mind: a rich person came to our Majorca course and sat next to Maharishi and held his hand while being interviewed. HELD HIS HAND! Up to that time, I'd only heard that Maharishi had done that ONCE while walking with Tat Wala Baba. Yet a rich guy had not even been informed (warned) about movement protocols such that he showed such outrageous familiarity. And then there was the course office goons who made it their thing to put everyone in their place. Nah, I never was important to the movement even after 2,000 people taught.my reward: they took away my five thousand dollars worth of earned credits towards ATR and advanced techniques. Poor Edg really got the shaft, wellyour reward will be in heaven! ;-) PS I can relate... And then after moving to Fairfield, MSAE turns out to be run by the rich parents. And then the raja thingie pretty much topped it all off. Note: even Jerry was kicked out of the movement. Nope. Not a one of us was ever really in a movement at all -- not when the movement always saw one as expendable. Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got to do anything but look up the noses looking down at me. Edg
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got to do anything but look up the noses looking down at me. Consider yourself lucky. In some spiritual organizations such as the Catholic Church, the choirboys and altarboys at the bottom of the hierarchy got to be actual bottoms. Better boogered than buggered, I always say. :-)
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Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got to do anything but look up the noses looking down at me. turquoiseb: Consider yourself lucky. In contrast to Ed, Barry was a 'West Coast Coordinator'. Now that's being an insider door mat! So, according to Barry and Curtis they were 'somebody' high up in the TMO and they never fail to remind us that they 'walked the walk', and they like to brag about it, but Ed was a nobody after 29 fukin' years? In some spiritual organizations such as the Catholic Church, the choirboys and altarboys at the bottom of the hierarchy got to be actual bottoms. Better boogered than buggered, I always say. :-) Don't you just hate those Catholic buggers and those cat-ass kisser Gnostics over in Toulouse! Barry Wright - A completly discredited prevaricator who apparently spent most of his adult life in and out of various cults; has been taken to task on numerous occasions for making false and misleading claims of previous TMO insider status; fond of smoky cyber-cafes, late-nite ice cream on RCs; has a penchant for reading books on the Buggers and the Cat-ass-kissers of Bulgaria and France, but never read a book on the Gnostics. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Why? Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an insider. Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis et alia were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access. And also, I saw a parade of rich folks getting access -- there's one incident that still burns in my mind: a rich person came to our Majorca course and sat next to Maharishi and held his hand while being interviewed. HELD HIS HAND! Up to that time, I'd only heard that Maharishi had done that ONCE while walking with Tat Wala Baba. Yet a rich guy had not even been informed (warned) about movement protocols such that he showed such outrageous familiarity. And then there was the course office goons who made it their thing to put everyone in their place. Nah, I never was important to the movement even after 2,000 people taught.my reward: they took away my five thousand dollars worth of earned credits towards ATR and advanced techniques. Poor Edg really got the shaft, wellyour reward will be in heaven! ;-) PS I can relate... And then after moving to Fairfield, MSAE turns out to be run by the rich parents. And then the raja thingie pretty much topped it all off. Note: even Jerry was kicked out of the movement. Nope. Not a one of us was ever really in a movement at all -- not when the movement always saw one as expendable. Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got to do anything but look up the noses looking down at me. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that initiators were not treated as the devoted souls they were - at least during the late 70's and 80's. There was super hierarchical feel in some groups. (I also have good memories of higher ups in the TMO being very respectful of anyone (even without money) who taught TM. Keith WAllace comes to mind, and Jerry too.. I sensed things changed a while ago, and especially in the last few years. Money will always separate people in many ways but maybe things are different now. I do not know. You did great things, all those pujas, And seeing the peace on the faces of some of the people who learned TM from you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Why? Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an insider. Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis et alia were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access. And also, I saw a parade of rich folks getting access -- there's one incident that still burns in my mind: a rich person came to our Majorca course and sat next to Maharishi and held his hand while being interviewed. HELD HIS HAND! Up to that time, I'd only heard that Maharishi had done that ONCE while walking with Tat Wala Baba. Yet a rich guy had not even been informed (warned) about movement protocols such that he showed such outrageous familiarity. And then there was the course office goons who made it their thing to put everyone in their place. Nah, I never was important to the movement even after 2,000 people taught.my reward: they took away my five thousand dollars worth of earned credits towards ATR and advanced techniques. Poor Edg really got the shaft, wellyour reward will be in heaven! ;-) PS I can relate... And then after moving to Fairfield, MSAE turns out to be run by the rich parents. And then the raja thingie pretty much topped it all off. Note: even Jerry was kicked out of the movement. Nope. Not a one of us was ever really in a movement at all -- not when the movement always saw one as expendable. Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got to do anything but look up the noses looking down at me. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that initiators were not treated as the devoted souls they were - at least during the late 70's and 80's. There was super hierarchical feel in some groups. (I also have good memories of higher ups in the TMO being very respectful of anyone (even without money) who taught TM. Keith WAllace comes to mind, and Jerry too.. I sensed things changed a while ago, and especially in the last few years. Money will always separate people in many ways but maybe things are different now. I do not know. You did great things, all those pujas, And seeing the peace on the faces of some of the people who learned TM from you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Why? Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an insider. Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis et alia were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access. And also, I saw a parade of rich folks getting access -- there's one incident that still burns in my mind: a rich person came to our Majorca course and sat next to Maharishi and held his hand while being interviewed. HELD HIS HAND! Up to that time, I'd only heard that Maharishi had done that ONCE while walking with Tat Wala Baba. Yet a rich guy had not even been informed (warned) about movement protocols such that he showed such outrageous familiarity. And then there was the course office goons who made it their thing to put everyone in their place. Nah, I never was important to the movement even after 2,000 people taught.my reward: they took away my five thousand dollars worth of earned credits towards ATR and advanced techniques. Poor Edg really got the shaft, wellyour reward will be in heaven! ;-) PS I can relate... And then after moving to Fairfield, MSAE turns out to be run by the rich parents. And then the raja thingie pretty much topped it all off. Note: even Jerry was kicked out of the movement. Nope. Not a one of us was ever really in a movement at all -- not when the movement always saw one as expendable. Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got to do anything but look up the noses looking down at me. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
Hey Edg, you know I love you like a brother, but having just seen The Avengers, (sort of dumb I thought. well a little better than John Carter, but not by much), do you feel any affinity to the Incredible Hulk? I mean, really, I do see some resemblance. I think you may be the smartest person here on FFL, but jeez, sometimes that temper flares, and I don't recognize the person who comes out. Just saying Edg. Sometimes that temper flares --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that initiators were not treated as the devoted souls they were - at least during the late 70's and 80's. There was super hierarchical feel in some groups. (I also have good memories of higher ups in the TMO being very respectful of anyone (even without money) who taught TM. Keith WAllace comes to mind, and Jerry too.. I sensed things changed a while ago, and especially in the last few years. Money will always separate people in many ways but maybe things are different now. I do not know. You did great things, all those pujas, And seeing the peace on the faces of some of the people who learned TM from you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Why? Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an insider. Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis et alia were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access. And also, I saw a parade of rich folks getting access -- there's one incident that still burns in my mind: a rich person came to our Majorca course and sat next to Maharishi and held his hand while being interviewed. HELD HIS HAND! Up to that time, I'd only heard that Maharishi had done that ONCE while walking with Tat Wala Baba. Yet a rich guy had not even been informed (warned) about movement protocols such that he showed such outrageous familiarity. And then there was the course office goons who made it their thing to put everyone in their place. Nah, I never was important to the movement even after 2,000 people taught.my reward: they took away my five thousand dollars worth of earned credits towards ATR and advanced techniques. Poor Edg really got the shaft, wellyour reward will be in heaven! ;-) PS I can relate... And then after moving to Fairfield, MSAE turns out to be run by the rich parents. And then the raja thingie pretty much topped it all off. Note: even Jerry was kicked out of the movement. Nope. Not a one of us was ever really in a movement at all -- not when the movement always saw one as expendable. Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got to do anything but look up the noses looking down at me. Edg
[FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement.
Edg just likes feeling sorry for himself and playing the victim. No one ever forced him to be in the TM movement or stay in it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Hey Edg, you know I love you like a brother, but having just seen The Avengers, (sort of dumb I thought. well a little better than John Carter, but not by much), do you feel any affinity to the Incredible Hulk? I mean, really, I do see some resemblance. I think you may be the smartest person here on FFL, but jeez, sometimes that temper flares, and I don't recognize the person who comes out. Just saying Edg. Sometimes that temper flares --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that initiators were not treated as the devoted souls they were - at least during the late 70's and 80's. There was super hierarchical feel in some groups. (I also have good memories of higher ups in the TMO being very respectful of anyone (even without money) who taught TM. Keith WAllace comes to mind, and Jerry too.. I sensed things changed a while ago, and especially in the last few years. Money will always separate people in many ways but maybe things are different now. I do not know. You did great things, all those pujas, And seeing the peace on the faces of some of the people who learned TM from you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Why? Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an insider. Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis et alia were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access. And also, I saw a parade of rich folks getting access -- there's one incident that still burns in my mind: a rich person came to our Majorca course and sat next to Maharishi and held his hand while being interviewed. HELD HIS HAND! Up to that time, I'd only heard that Maharishi had done that ONCE while walking with Tat Wala Baba. Yet a rich guy had not even been informed (warned) about movement protocols such that he showed such outrageous familiarity. And then there was the course office goons who made it their thing to put everyone in their place. Nah, I never was important to the movement even after 2,000 people taught.my reward: they took away my five thousand dollars worth of earned credits towards ATR and advanced techniques. Poor Edg really got the shaft, wellyour reward will be in heaven! ;-) PS I can relate... And then after moving to Fairfield, MSAE turns out to be run by the rich parents. And then the raja thingie pretty much topped it all off. Note: even Jerry was kicked out of the movement. Nope. Not a one of us was ever really in a movement at all -- not when the movement always saw one as expendable. Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got to do anything but look up the noses looking down at me. Edg
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See, no regrets. No one seems to have any real regrets, not even Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry opinion coming on. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I was never in the TM movement. Susan, Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Edg, You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE, everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you. I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and attempt to be more fair, but newbie groups don't do that, and we were all so striving and young and without older people to set the right tone. Money does buy an in and buys attention and perks and fawning. I get it, but your point is also that as a hard-working underpaid, devoted teacher of TM who put their worldly ambitions on hold to convey this wonderful knowledge - you were not appreciated. People like you should have been given buckets of gratitude and some perks, if not more compensation. It seemed to mean more to the insiders if a person was rich and barely doing TM than if they had devoted themselves to this endeavor as you did. Galling since you taught over 2,000 people TM!! I know many people felt that initiators were not treated as the devoted souls they were - at least during the late 70's and 80's. There was super hierarchical feel in some groups. (I also have good memories of higher ups in the TMO being very respectful of anyone (even without money) who taught TM. Keith WAllace comes to mind, and Jerry too.. I sensed things changed a while ago, and especially in the last few years. Money will always separate people in many ways but maybe things are different now. I do not know. You did great things, all those pujas, And seeing the peace on the faces of some of the people who learned TM from you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Why? Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious. I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an insider. Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis et alia were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access. And also, I saw a parade of rich folks getting access -- there's one incident that still burns in my mind: a rich person came to our Majorca course and sat next to Maharishi and held his hand while being interviewed. HELD HIS HAND! Up to that time, I'd only heard that Maharishi had done that ONCE while walking with Tat Wala Baba. Yet a rich guy had not even been informed (warned) about movement protocols such that he showed such outrageous familiarity. And then there was the course office goons who made it their thing to put everyone in their place. Nah, I never was important to the movement even after 2,000 people taught.my reward: they took away my five thousand dollars worth of earned credits towards ATR and advanced techniques. Poor Edg really got the shaft, wellyour reward will be in heaven! ;-) PS I can relate... And then after moving to Fairfield, MSAE turns out to be run by the rich parents. And then the raja thingie pretty much topped it all off. Note: even Jerry was kicked out of the movement. Nope. Not a one of us was ever really in a movement at all -- not when the movement always saw one as expendable. Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got to do anything but look up the noses looking down at me. Edg