[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: If you haven't already done so you might want to read Carlsen's take on Ayatollah Khomeini. To me he was clearly a cruel, narrow-minded fanatic with an instinctive hatred of western ideas of freedom. But where I see black Carlsen sees white. Follow the link for his portrait of the mad imam; but here's a typical quote: He did not smile once; his face was implacably set in the resolution of his will; God demanded everything from him; he had given his life to serving God. There was nothing to laugh at, to be amused at, to wonder about; his course had been set and he was in the determined consequences of that course: to bring Islam into the prominence which its divine genesis had portended. He lived for Islam; he had become the instrument of Islam; he had no purpose but the enactment of Islam. His individuality seemed merged with the universality of his higher purpose. http://tinyurl.com/nbmpvj9 http://tinyurl.com/nbmpvj9 http://tinyurl.com/nbmpvj9 http://tinyurl.com/nbmpvj9 For the record, s3raphita, this projection of idealized fantasies onto Khomeini is pretty much standard Narcissistic Personality Disorder stuff, combined with mania. What happens is that the NPD individual, *lost* in self-obsession and convinced of how important *he* is to the world (we *are* talking about the person who billed himself as the World Teacher, after all) gets high on mania and looks at someone else and projects that same supposed grandiose greatness there. So for Robin, Khomeini became the same kind of God-directed leader he considered himself to be. But it's not *just* Khomeini he was a fan boy for. And the fan boy schtick was not *just* in the past. Robin did the same sort of fantasy projection on other people whom he chose to focus on during one of his manic states. For example, check out what he said about Lady Gaga back in June, 2011. It's the same schtick. And he carried on carrying on about it for some time, ready to argue with anyone who disputed *his* accurate view of Lady Gaga, because of course...they're wrong, and he's right. I suspect in a few years, when no one even remembers who Lady Gaga was, he'll issue a repudiation of what he wrote back in 2011, claiming similar levels of delusion. He'll probably even find a way to make his mania someone else's fault: Lingering influence from the Vedic demons who once convinced me I was enlightened made me write this stuff about Lady Gaga. :-) :-) :-) My take? She is so passionate and devoted to her musicand her message (inner God-given dignity of every person: For God makes no mistakes BTW) comes through non-didactically, non-sentimentally. As you say, her effect on her little monsters is real. They can't help what happens to them during a LG performanceand I have been in a live audience watching her: she does more good for each person than TM ever did (if you will excuse the hyperbole, the bitterness, the outrageousness of that declarationbut for me, it's true). No one of course is 'transformed' but her effect seems to make people a little more sincere, a little more intelligent, a little more grounded. Although I doubt ANYONE knows just how she is doing this. For me, her dedication as an artist is pure and deathless, and this invites a grace which desexualizes her just to the right degree, while allowing her, non-egotistically to sacrifice herself inside her art. And the form and message of the art are one. That almost is unprecedented in my experience. (I have been a performer myself). A woman dishabille and yet private lust for her is not permitted. This is because her art is (and the woman behind the art) so sincere and inspired that a certain chasteness secretly enters into the contextdefying the very provocative and sexually uninhibited way she performs. Inside her performanceI have studied her carefully up-closeshe is that good (as an artist) that she surrenders all of herself, and from within this posture of total giving, she is able to create an effect which defies analysis. People feel good, but it is not an escape, nor is it some kind of epiphany. She just works on you, and the sensation (for me at leastand it seems reflected in the faces of most of the audience as well: see that HBO MSG Concert) is controlled by a beautiful intelligence. You will also notice she never breaks her concentration. She remains Lady Gaga, even in her intimate improvisational words to those fans who are standing near to her. She does not get off on the energy, the rush of her performance. She remains invulnerable, poised, focused when all that adulation and enthusiasm comes at her. She wants to stay inside herself, and not be seduced by any experience of what it is like to be her performing. For me this borders on the miraculous. Vanity, pride, egotism are banished in the commitment she has made to her artand I would say, even her 'religion', for she certainly believes she has a message, and she efficaciously
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. All of this makes me wonder whether the real reason he bailed on Fairfield Life was that Judy was starting to stalk him via email the way she's stalked so many people over the years on talk forums, and it was freaking him out. Maybe he was afraid she'd show up outside his door in Toronto. It *does* sorta sound like she had -- and still has -- a rather unhealthy obsession going with the guy, doesn't it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@ steve.sundur@ wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@ wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@ mailto:authfriend@ wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/30\ 0960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/30\ 0960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
Um, no, she didn't go on and on about having an email correspondence with Robin. She mentioned it a couple times when it was relevant. (And remember, you got it completely, embarrassingly wrong about what was such fun for Robin and me. Yes, we did laugh privately at your stupidity in taking it seriously. We didn't expect anybody to be that brainless.) Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
That isn't what we were calling the most fun ever, you utter nitwit. See my post to Stevie, who is so out of it, and so consumed by hostility (as you are), that he made the same incredibly stupid mistake. Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
Judy, No, it certainly would not surprise me that you and Robin had peels of laughter at my expense or at someone who would fall for one of your tricks. Does not surprise me in the least. Kind of indicates a dearth of other, more healthy outlets, if you ask me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, no, she didn't go on and on about having an email correspondence with Robin. She mentioned it a couple times when it was relevant. (And remember, you got it completely, embarrassingly wrong about what was such fun for Robin and me. Yes, we did laugh privately at your stupidity in taking it seriously. We didn't expect anybody to be that brainless.) Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
Me thinks the hostility is on your end Sweetie. Like, it's coming through loud and clear. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: That isn't what we were calling the most fun ever, you utter nitwit. See my post to Stevie, who is so out of it, and so consumed by hostility (as you are), that he made the same incredibly stupid mistake. Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
If you weren't so obnoxious in your stupidity, we would probably have been more compassionate. But you really set yourself up to be laughed at rather than pitied. BTW, it's peals, not peels. You're welcome. Judy, No, it certainly would not surprise me that you and Robin had peels of laughter at my expense or at someone who would fall for one of your tricks. Does not surprise me in the least. Kind of indicates a dearth of other, more healthy outlets, if you ask me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, no, she didn't go on and on about having an email correspondence with Robin. She mentioned it a couple times when it was relevant. (And remember, you got it completely, embarrassingly wrong about what was such fun for Robin and me. Yes, we did laugh privately at your stupidity in taking it seriously. We didn't expect anybody to be that brainless.) Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. I am still finding it interesting that people find this minor incident on FFL so memorable and, well, prickly. My take on it (and I wasn't here yet) was that it was a highlight because it was just between those two and they were basically riffing off each other. I don't think anyone started out meaning to delude or trick anyone, it just turned out that some were more gullible than others. Or, as we know, some here are always looking for a means to create and perpetuate dissension and when they see what they think is a great opportunity and find they were hoodwinked (through no one's fault but their own) they become pissed off. Indeed, this little incident has sparked quite a firestorm, not by those who saw through it for the spontaneous little interaction it was, but for those who were hoping it meant something quite different and negative. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. Are you sure it wasn't me who said that? You do have a tendency to mis-remember all sorts of things. And I am not so sure Judy or I said in the most private of emails from Robin. An email is either a personal email and therefore private or it is not. I am not sure an email can be the most private of emails, that seems rather redundant. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. I don't think you do either. Just as I don't think you realize how harping on about a basic non-event makes you look. Hint: petty and silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
It's not working Judy. This reflects much more on you than me, or anyone else. I am sorry that it is causing you so much discomfort. On the other hand, maybe that is positive. Perhaps it may push you to try reconcile your self image and the image others see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: If you weren't so obnoxious in your stupidity, we would probably have been more compassionate. But you really set yourself up to be laughed at rather than pitied. BTW, it's peals, not peels. You're welcome. Judy, No, it certainly would not surprise me that you and Robin had peels of laughter at my expense or at someone who would fall for one of your tricks. Does not surprise me in the least. Kind of indicates a dearth of other, more healthy outlets, if you ask me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Um, no, she didn't go on and on about having an email correspondence with Robin. She mentioned it a couple times when it was relevant. (And remember, you got it completely, embarrassingly wrong about what was such fun for Robin and me. Yes, we did laugh privately at your stupidity in taking it seriously. We didn't expect anybody to be that brainless.) Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. All of this makes me wonder whether the real reason he bailed on Fairfield Life was that Judy was starting to stalk him via email the way she's stalked so many people over the years on talk forums, and it was freaking him out. Maybe he was afraid she'd show up outside his door in Toronto. Can I put this post of Barry's in neon lights? This one has probably taken the proverbial cake. Eminent scholars take note - it doesn't get much better than this! Barry, there really is a God; I know this because if you knew how clearly your little theory indicates what you are inside you'd never show your deluded and ugly face here again. (Oh, and by the way, your theory stinks.) It *does* sorta sound like she had -- and still has -- a rather unhealthy obsession going with the guy, doesn't it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@ wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:33 AM, steve.sundur@ steve.sundur@ wrote: Really, the strange thing for me, is that both Judy and Robin consider this the best time they had posting on FFL, or at least near the top. Judy said as much a few days ago. Now what does that say about a person, or persons that creating a parody just to see how many people they can fool is what they consider great sport? But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people, you will hear Judy recite chapter and verse (for the umpteenth time) of what an honest person she is. That's a go figure if ever there was one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@ wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@ mailto:authfriend@ wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
He's mostly right this time. I did say it was the most fun either of us ever had on FFL. But I didn't say anything about any particular email from Robin. BTW, sometimes I refer to private emails (didn't this time) simply because some people call forum posts emails, I guess because they get the posts via email rather than going to the Web site. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. Are you sure it wasn't me who said that? You do have a tendency to mis-remember all sorts of things. And I am not so sure Judy or I said in the most private of emails from Robin. An email is either a personal email and therefore private or it is not. I am not sure an email can be the most private of emails, that seems rather redundant.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoe wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, someone wrote: Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. All of this makes me wonder whether the real reason he bailed on Fairfield Life was that Judy was starting to stalk him via email the way she's stalked so many people over the years on talk forums, and it was freaking him out. Maybe he was afraid she'd show up outside his door in Toronto. Can I put this post of Barry's in neon lights? This one has probably taken the proverbial cake. Eminent scholars take note - it doesn't get much better than this! Barry, there really is a God; I know this because if you knew how clearly your little theory indicates what you are inside you'd never show your deluded and ugly face here again. (Oh, and by the way, your theory stinks.) Ahem. Says the woman who essentially stalked the cult leader she was enamored with 30 years ago -- who dumped her publicly and humiliatingly -- to Fairfield Life and attempted to take up where she'd left off with him again. Now she's one of his two only champions and defenders here on FFL, acting...dare I say it...as if she'd become his cult follower again. Go figure. I mean, really...go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoe wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, someone wrote: Well, Judy has gloated many times about this in the past. And a couple days ago, referring to one of her private e-mails from Robin, (not to be mistaken for an e-mail from or to, anyone else, this was a private e-mail from Robin to her, and not just a single isolated e-mail, but one of many private e-mails she got from Robin). I just want to make that clear, because she sort of went on and on about it. Anyway, where was I. Oh yes, she said, in this most private of e-mails from Robin, that this was the most fun he had posting on FFL. There, finally got it out. I dooon't think she does realize what this says about her, and Robin. All of this makes me wonder whether the real reason he bailed on Fairfield Life was that Judy was starting to stalk him via email the way she's stalked so many people over the years on talk forums, and it was freaking him out. Maybe he was afraid she'd show up outside his door in Toronto. Can I put this post of Barry's in neon lights? This one has probably taken the proverbial cake. Eminent scholars take note - it doesn't get much better than this! Barry, there really is a God; I know this because if you knew how clearly your little theory indicates what you are inside you'd never show your deluded and ugly face here again. (Oh, and by the way, your theory stinks.) Ahem. Says the woman who essentially stalked the cult leader she was enamored with 30 years ago -- who dumped her publicly and humiliatingly -- to Fairfield Life and attempted to take up where she'd left off with him again. Now she's one of his two only champions and defenders here on FFL, acting...dare I say it...as if she'd become his cult follower again. Go figure. I mean, really...go figure. Just to reiterate: There is a God and you should be grateful for that Bawwy. Only Judy, Robin and I know how truly ridiculous, farcical you really are. You'll go to your grave taking yourself as seriously as you do not realizing those watching you go are clutching their sides and howling with laughter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoe wrote: Can I put this post of Barry's in neon lights? This one has probably taken the proverbial cake. Eminent scholars take note - it doesn't get much better than this! Barry, there really is a God; I know this because if you knew how clearly your little theory indicates what you are inside you'd never show your deluded and ugly face here again. (Oh, and by the way, your theory stinks.) Ahem. Says the woman who essentially stalked the cult leader she was enamored with 30 years ago -- who dumped her publicly and humiliatingly -- to Fairfield Life and attempted to take up where she'd left off with him again. Now she's one of his two only champions and defenders here on FFL, acting...dare I say it...as if she'd become his cult follower again. Go figure. I mean, really...go figure. Just to reiterate: There is a God and you should be grateful for that Bawwy. Only Judy, Robin and I know how truly ridiculous, farcical you really are. You'll go to your grave taking yourself as seriously as you do not realizing those watching you go are clutching their sides and howling with laughter. That's quite a tight and elite group you've got there, Ann. The only ones who know the truth are you, Judy, and Robin. It almost sounds as if you're describing a cult. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
On 2/10/2014 6:33 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: But maybe the real kicker is that if you accuse Judy and Robin of setting traps for people Apparently the two of them, Judy and Robin, conspired to trick all the pricks with a false posting. Normal people reading Robin's post would think he was serious and finding out the truth, would probably call Robin's post a pack of lies, but Judy says it was a parody - a trick post in order to confuse us pricks. Now it turns out that Robin and Judy are the liars and the pricks and they have fun posting lies and prick teasers. Go Figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
On 2/10/2014 6:49 AM, Share Long wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. Judy is probably desperately emailing Robin at this second, trying to get him to either give her permission to publish his mail, or trying to get him to come back here and help her monitor the pricks that exposed them. Trickster, lying pricks, who deceive and pose as spiritual teachers and editors on internet forums. Watch out for them, Share - they can be really tricky. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? All we have from Robin is his own post and it looks like he was being serious, not posting a parody. Anyone want to place a bet that Robin is monitoring every message sent to this forum?
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/10/2014 6:49 AM, Share Long wrote: Steve, I had a very similar thought. What kind of person calls fooling other people the most fun ever? Doesn't sound balanced to me. Sounds a bit arrogant. Judy is probably desperately emailing Robin at this second, trying to get him to either give her permission to publish his mail, or trying to get him to come back here and help her monitor the pricks that exposed them. Trickster, lying pricks, who deceive and pose as spiritual teachers and editors on internet forums. Watch out for them, Share - they can be really tricky. And is Judy quoting Robin about this? Or are these just her feelings on the matter? All we have from Robin is his own post and it looks like he was being serious, not posting a parody. Anyone want to place a bet that Robin is monitoring every message sent to this forum? I'll bet you $150,000, no, make it $200,000.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
On 2/10/2014 8:42 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Or, as we know, some here are always looking for a means to create and perpetuate dissension and when they see what they think is a great opportunity and find they were hoodwinked (through no one's fault but their own) they become pissed off. Indeed, this little incident has sparked quite a firestorm, not by those who saw through it for the spontaneous little interaction it was, but for those who were hoping it meant something quite different and negative. You're really taking this seriously - that's the hoodwink, stage two: some people posted a hoodwink and then got hoodwinked themselves thinking that anyone took this hoodwink seriously. Nothing that is posted here should be taken seriously - that's how you get hoodwinked.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
Re Judy's :But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right?: No - that was before my time. But people who write sycophantic crap about tyrants are the sort of useful idiots who insisted Stalin was a good egg. At a later date to repudiate what you said comes a bit late in the day for those who suffered at the hands of the bearded one. Why are you so defensive of Robin's reputation? Do you feel sorry for him? Carlsen's comments about Lady Gaga also reveal someone who is easily taken in by an act. I've nothing against the woman but let's face it she just produces pop pap. Camille Paglia takes on the myth here: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/magazine/article389697.ece http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/magazine/article389697.ece
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
On 2/10/2014 1:09 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Anyone want to place a bet that Robin is monitoring every message sent to this forum? I'll bet you $150,000, no, make it $200,000. Pesos or Canadian dollars? Do you take Bitcoins? This just in: A Masked Zebra just sent me a private email saying that Ann and Judy are supposed to be monitoring all these FFL posts and forwarding them to him if he gets mentioned in any way. Go figure. Apparently since Ann failed to do that, the Zebra Boy is probably going to monitor every post himself and if he sees any posts that mention his name he will take action and come back here and show us what a real hoodwink is. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/10/2014 8:42 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: Or, as we know, some here are always looking for a means to create and perpetuate dissension and when they see what they think is a great opportunity and find they were hoodwinked (through no one's fault but their own) they become pissed off. Indeed, this little incident has sparked quite a firestorm, not by those who saw through it for the spontaneous little interaction it was, but for those who were hoping it meant something quite different and negative. You're really taking this seriously - that's the hoodwink, stage two: some people posted a hoodwink and then got hoodwinked themselves thinking that anyone took this hoodwink seriously. Nothing that is posted here should be taken seriously - that's how you get hoodwinked. Oh silly Ricky, you took me seriously. Don't do that in the future, okay? At least not unless I tell you to.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
On 2/10/2014 9:11 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: You're really taking this seriously - that's the hoodwink, stage two: some people posted a hoodwink and then got hoodwinked themselves thinking that anyone took this hoodwink seriously. Nothing that is posted here should be taken seriously - that's how you get hoodwinked. Oh silly Ricky, you took me seriously. You seriously got hoodwinked into posting to FFL - that's the silly part. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
Yeah, Stalin supporters weren't in quite the same league. Robin had been experiencing something like a super-ultra LSD trip (very rough analogy), a profoundly altered state of consciousness, for years when he met Khomeini; and after he'd managed to get rid of that--took him 25 years--he was horrified by many of the things he'd done and said and written, including about Khomeini. His post explaining that piece is here (long): https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/312097 What Robin had to go through to get where he was when he joined us here on FFL was quite extraordinary. He came close to suicide several times. I respect his courage and determination, and I liked him a lot personally. He became a whipping boy for a few people here, with very little basis, and these people have continued to beat up on him since he left. The person who posted his Khomeini piece did so while he was away from FFL for awhile, and did so specifically to embarrass him, a pretty dirty trick. He had quite a few fans, and these anti-Robinites, I think, were jealous of and deeply threatened by him.. At any rate, he's been treated very unfairly. He's a friend, so of course I defend him. Wouldn't you defend a friend in similar circumstances? Read Barry's post starting this thread, and the other one, The Robin Carlsen Cult on FFL. Aside from the sheer meanness, they're very seriously dishonest. I'm not an admirer of Paglia, to say the least, so to quote her contra Robin's take on Gaga doesn't impress me much. At any rate, Robin liked her act, saw something very appealing in her personality. So do a lot of other people. No big deal, as far as I'm concerned. De gustibus non est disputandum. He liked Keith Jarrett too, and I find his work juvenile in the extreme. On the other hand, Robin was wowed by the operatic baritone Dmitri Hvorovstovsky when videos of him were posted here, and you can't complain about Robin's taste on that score. Goodness knows Robin has huge flaws, but also huge strengths. Most complex and unusual human being I've ever encountered. Re Judy's :But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right?: No - that was before my time. But people who write sycophantic crap about tyrants are the sort of useful idiots who insisted Stalin was a good egg. At a later date to repudiate what you said comes a bit late in the day for those who suffered at the hands of the bearded one. Why are you so defensive of Robin's reputation? Do you feel sorry for him? Carlsen's comments about Lady Gaga also reveal someone who is easily taken in by an act. I've nothing against the woman but let's face it she just produces pop pap. Camille Paglia takes on the myth here: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/magazine/article389697.ece http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/public/magazine/article389697.ece
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
If you haven't already done so you might want to read Carlsen's take on Ayatollah Khomeini. To me he was clearly a cruel, narrow-minded fanatic with an instinctive hatred of western ideas of freedom. But where I see black Carlsen sees white. Follow the link for his portrait of the mad imam; but here's a typical quote: He did not smile once; his face was implacably set in the resolution of his will; God demanded everything from him; he had given his life to serving God. There was nothing to laugh at, to be amused at, to wonder about; his course had been set and he was in the determined consequences of that course: to bring Islam into the prominence which its divine genesis had portended. He lived for Islam; he had become the instrument of Islam; he had no purpose but the enactment of Islam. His individuality seemed merged with the universality of his higher purpose. http://tinyurl.com/nbmpvj9 http://tinyurl.com/nbmpvj9
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? You did see his long post here about that (made after someone here dug up the piece and posted it in his absence and without his knowledge to embarrass him), didn't you? I'm a little surprised that you wouldn't have added that caveat but instead left the impression that the piece represented his current thinking. Was that deliberate, or just thoughtless? If you haven't already done so you might want to read Carlsen's take on Ayatollah Khomeini. To me he was clearly a cruel, narrow-minded fanatic with an instinctive hatred of western ideas of freedom. But where I see black Carlsen sees white. Follow the link for his portrait of the mad imam; but here's a typical quote: He did not smile once; his face was implacably set in the resolution of his will; God demanded everything from him; he had given his life to serving God. There was nothing to laugh at, to be amused at, to wonder about; his course had been set and he was in the determined consequences of that course: to bring Islam into the prominence which its divine genesis had portended. He lived for Islam; he had become the instrument of Islam; he had no purpose but the enactment of Islam. His individuality seemed merged with the universality of his higher purpose. http://tinyurl.com/nbmpvj9 http://tinyurl.com/nbmpvj9
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? You did see his long post here about that (made after someone here dug up the piece and posted it in his absence and without his knowledge to embarrass him), didn't you? I'm a little surprised that you wouldn't have added that caveat but instead left the impression that the piece represented his current thinking. Was that deliberate, or just thoughtless? I think maybe Seraphita wasn't here when all this went down? This is another one of those rehash, bring out the old chestnut to imply Robin is off his rocker or was mean to Judy things that keep resurfacing because either someone wasn't paying attention or they missed it all completely. If you haven't already done so you might want to read Carlsen's take on Ayatollah Khomeini. To me he was clearly a cruel, narrow-minded fanatic with an instinctive hatred of western ideas of freedom. But where I see black Carlsen sees white. Follow the link for his portrait of the mad imam; but here's a typical quote: He did not smile once; his face was implacably set in the resolution of his will; God demanded everything from him; he had given his life to serving God. There was nothing to laugh at, to be amused at, to wonder about; his course had been set and he was in the determined consequences of that course: to bring Islam into the prominence which its divine genesis had portended. He lived for Islam; he had become the instrument of Islam; he had no purpose but the enactment of Islam. His individuality seemed merged with the universality of his higher purpose. http://tinyurl.com/nbmpvj9 http://tinyurl.com/nbmpvj9
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:24 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: But you know, of course, that he completely repudiated what he'd written, right? Most of Robin's writings appear to be parodies or total fibs. So far as I can tell, Robin never repudiated his parody of Judy. But, according to Judy and Ann, Robin told them in private email that it was a joke on the rest of us. If that's true, then nobody on FFL will ever believe anything Robin ever wrote or says again. And, now that we know that Robin, Ann, and Judy are playing tricks on us pricks, will we never again believe anything they say on FFL. What?! You didn't realize this whole place was a running joke, a parody, that all of us were hired actors here? Think about that creepy and wonderful 60's series The Prisoner. Well, it is something like that Ricky. We all thought you actually knew this. Gosh, I am so sorry. I am surprised though, Judy, you would reveal this information about my prior association with you before I started posting at FFL. But I will take this as your need to express your hurt that I should turn on you like this. Still, I think it was imprudent of you to do this. But the damage is done, and we must live with it. http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Essence of the Robin Carlsen Cult
On 2/9/2014 10:11 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: This is another one of those rehash, bring out the old chestnut to imply Robin is off his rocker or was mean to Judy things that keep resurfacing because either someone wasn't paying attention or they missed it all completely. It looks like to me that Robin wrote a lot of trap messages, both on FFL and in his books. Robin comes across as a trickster in writing - he couldn't have been serious about the Imam or about his meeting with Werner Erhard or about Catholicism. I suspect that most of what Robin wrote was a put-on, including his enlightenment experience. Apparently once Robin starting writing these kinds of fibs, pretty soon it becomes a habit and nobody can tell when he is being serious or when he is writing a parody about someone. Nobody here seems to take Robin seriously now that it was revealed that he tried to trick everyone on the group about Barry - while secretly conspiring with Ann and Judy in private emails to defraud everyone. Robin's name is mud on FFL now - nobody is going to believe anything he says if he ever comes back to FFL. In withdrawing from FFL I have had time to reflect upon my history there and the characters I have interacted with. - Masked Zebra http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/300960
