Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:19 AM, raunchydograunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: It looks like the White House is trying to put the cat back in the public option bag AGAIN. Apparently Sebelius misspoke that a public option is not part of health reform. #1, RD, I know what open option is with respect to the health care bill(s). I've been reading everything I can get my hands on about the issues and of course getting the rest of my information from Rachael Maddow. #2. You keep on running off that the sky is falling. You are not doing the White House any good and I'm sure they have many of your hysterical rants about health care posted here. The fact is, this is politics. Congress is in recess. It would be utterly stupid for Obama to waste his energy doing a lot of campaigning on health care right now. The president uses TV and Air Force One. No need to hop on a private rail car like Harry Truman and do whistle stop campaigning. Obama is a smart cookie and he's got some smart staff. He's also got a lot of people who voted for him to get health care passed. When recess is about to end, expect Obama, Joe Biden, cabinet members to be saturating the air waves, flying all over the country for town hall meetings and expect a lot of quid pro quo bargaining. Obama will get the best deal he can at the time, knowing that once he opens the door, it'll be easier to open further and harder to close back again. With respect to the mere pittance Obama worked out with pharm about lowering prices. Wait until Obama really squeezes their gonads to lower more. We have hurricane and swine flu season coming. Things to capitalize on. To paraphrase my favorite philosopher Joe Dimaggio, it ain't over until Hilary sings.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:28 AM, raunchydograunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: So Bill, have you called your Congressperson to pledge support for a public option? Yes I did. And his aide told me I had called the wrong office. This is the office of one of the main opponents of the health care bill, Bill, he said. Public option is still on the table. Obama has front stage (read Presentation of Self in Everyday Life by Erving Goffman) let public option slide. It is alive still and president Obama hasn't started fighting yet. I will definitely admit this president doesn't act like most. Most are out there ahead of the crowd, butting the heads of MCs, gathering public support, threatening MCs (especially Blue Dogs) with loss of national support and his support come their re-nomination, and using the bully pulpit. Obama doesn't use the bully pulpit all that well but he does get things (like a beer party between a cop and a scholar at the WH) done in his own way. The Israelis are complaining that Obama is anti-Semitic in his dealings in the Middle East. Well, score one for Obama, since we've been kissing ass of the Israelis since FDR. Obama, Biden, perhaps your secret lover, the rest of the Cabinet and White House staffers will come out swinging when it's time. And if Obama only gets half a loaf, he's accomplished a lot. When Congress passed the first income tax in 1916, it opened the door. Whatever Obama gets this time around will be a lot. Patton had on his wall, drag them by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow. As Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said, Take the first step. You don't have to see the top of the stairs. Just take the first step. Congress is in recess. It would be utterly stupid for Obama to waste his energy doing a lot of campaigning on health care right now. The president uses TV and Air Force One. No need to hop on a private rail car like Harry Truman and do whistle stop campaigning. Obama is a smart cookie and he's got some smart staff. He's also got a lot of people who voted for him to get health care passed. When recess is about to end, expect Obama, Joe Biden, cabinet members to be saturating the air waves, flying all over the country for town hall meetings and expect a lot of quid pro quo bargaining. Obama will get the best deal he can at the time, knowing that once he opens the door, it'll be easier to open further and harder to close back again. With respect to the mere pittance Obama worked out with pharm about lowering prices. Wait until Obama really squeezes their gonads to lower more. We have hurricane and swine flu season coming. Things to capitalize on. To paraphrase my favorite philosopher Joe Dimaggio, it ain't over until Hilary sings. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links -- Ignorance is thinking you know everything. Wisdom is knowing you don't... but I may be wrong.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option
BillyG. wrote: Can we have *tort reform* now? Please! A great Republican, conservative idea to reduce health care costs! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tort_reform Until an MD leaves a medical tool inside you during surgery. You'd better leave recourse for that. Certainly malpractice insurance adds a ridiculous amount to our medical bills. It probably wouldn't be so necessary if all doctors were interested in practicing medicine and not just as a source of revenue so they can spend more time on the golf course. And malpractice insurance is only part of the medical bloat. Requiring a staff to deal with health insurance companies is another. Gee, it all comes back to insurance. Time to scrutinize the ENTIRE insurance scam ... er I mean industry.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option
But.. but... what about... all those poor lawyers? --- On Mon, 8/17/09, BillyG. wg...@yahoo.com wrote: From: BillyG. wg...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:42 PM Can we have *tort reform* now? Please! A great Republican, conservative idea to reduce health care costs! http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Tort_reform
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option
EXactly! I think we aught to ban golf! Screw those rich people out of having a good time with all that *easy money*. Just think of all the neat new reality based TV programming that could replace it like *ManTracker Through Mine Fields* or *Escape From North Korea* or *Busted Gay in Iran*. --- On Mon, 8/17/09, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 8:11 PM BillyG. wrote: Can we have *tort reform* now? Please! A great Republican, conservative idea to reduce health care costs! http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Tort_reform Until an MD leaves a medical tool inside you during surgery. You'd better leave recourse for that. Certainly malpractice insurance adds a ridiculous amount to our medical bills. It probably wouldn't be so necessary if all doctors were interested in practicing medicine and not just as a source of revenue so they can spend more time on the golf course. And malpractice insurance is only part of the medical bloat. Requiring a staff to deal with health insurance companies is another. Gee, it all comes back to insurance. Time to scrutinize the ENTIRE insurance scam ... er I mean industry.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Public Option
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM, raunchydograunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: The lefties who care about a public option, the folks who had faith Obama would keep his campaign promise to have a public option are not happy with him: So Obama campaigns for 2 years with the public option as the centerpiece of his health care reform. He's elected by the largest majority in 20 years, and the public gives him 60 Democratic seats in the Senate and 256 Democratic seats in the House. Obama then publicly lobbies for said public option after he takes office. Then Kent Conrad, who represents like 7 people, and a handful of corrupt Blue Dogs say No way. And Obama caves. Big victory! So let us impeach Obama and have Secretary of State Hilary Clinton cut off his balls with her teeth so RD can finally gain peace. RD is so bitter that Obama stole the election from Clinton by being the more popular candidate (not to mention the one us guys and a majority of women would vote for).
