[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 As you know, I skimmed a few chapters in Paul's
 book and found some pretty snarky remarks
 concerning MMY.
 
So, you haven't read Paul's book.

But, isn't it a fact that the parts you read you read on the Internet.
Exactly which parts of the book do you consider to be snarky?

You are supposed to read the book BEFORE you make your comments!




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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9/5/05 4:58 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  That's wild. She already says that she's disoriented and she bases
  the entire incident on this. I would think that there was non-stop
  rounding going on during that time, and disoriented for some 
people
  included falling down stairs and continuing ontheir way without 
even
  noticing that they had just fallen down the stairs(actual incident
  relatedto me years ago).
  
  IOW, she may have been accosted or was starting to fall over and
  misinterpreted what happened, or something else entirely. You 
really
  can't say ANYTHING based on this incident.
 
 I agree. The Mia Farrow incident is only significant in light of 
all the
 other incidents, and as such is still insignificant. Nothing 
happened. He
 didn't even get to first base. Of course, on many other occasions, 
with
 other partners, he hit home runs.

That might be. Couldn't say.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
Rick Archer wrote:
 Of course, on many other occasions, with
 other partners, he hit home runs.

This isn't your finest moment, Rick - apparently you'll stoop to any
level to bash the Maharishi - up to and including discussing his
private sex life, or lack thereof. Maybe it's time for someone else to
moderate this forum. Is this supposed to be a family-oriented
discussion group? Are there any rules on this forum?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TBers' responses to suggestions of MMY's improprieties

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote: 
 Pussy.  :-)

You've got a foul mouth, Sir - maybe it's time for you to shut your
pie hole.




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[FairfieldLife] 'Jesse Jackson/A Racist/Says, Newt Gingrinch'

2005-09-05 Thread Robert Gimbel



Claiming Jesse Jackson, is fanning the flames of hatred;

Newt Gingrich said on 'O'Rielly Factor';

That Mr. Jackson is racist; 

And, that this kind of rhetoric;

Can only be damaging;

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TBers' responses to suggestions of MMY's improprieties

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 Go beam yourselves, assholes.

There are rules on this forum - I've seen people get banned for saying
less.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Old News: Luminary?

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 Strong in the knowledge = big tits Pure = nice ass

Are you soliciting?




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[FairfieldLife] 'Greta Dissed by Two Ex-Presidents'

2005-09-05 Thread Robert Gimbel



Greta van Susteren of Fox News, was upset;

When asking an innocent question;

Of Mr.Bush and Mr. Clinton;

On why the federal government;

Never prepared the levee system;

In New Orleans for a storm;

Which was above cat. 3 status.

Both men, appeared angry;

That Greta hadasked, what they thought;

Was a 'gotcha' question.


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[FairfieldLife] Re: TBers' responses to suggestions of MMY's improprieties

2005-09-05 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
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 TurquoiseB wrote: 
  Pussy.  :-)
 
 You've got a foul mouth, Sir - maybe it's time for you to shut your
 pie hole.

Are you out of medication? 
There are lots of internet sites where you can get medication
delivered right to your home so you never run out.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Patrick Gillam
For a long time I dismissed the Mia Farrow/Maharishi 
story for all the reasons one dismisses it -- it was a 
misunderstanding; Magic Alex fabricated the rumor to 
regain his drug customers; Mia fabricated the story for 
reasons known only to Mia.

I *really* dismissed the allegations of impropriety in 
1997 when Farrow's book came out and Terry Gross 
interviewed her on public radio's Fresh Air. The whole 
interview was about all the men who've treated her badly. 

Basically, every man in Mia Farrow's life has screwed her, 
or tried. Frank Sinatra and Woody Allen are merely the
best known. She is a magnet for male mistreatment.

Her biography really illustrates a life typified by being 
preyed upon by men. It's spooky. So I figured, Maharishi 
somehow got suckered into that Mia-Farrow-as-victim scene.

Convinced as I was of Maharishi's innocence, imagine 
my surprise when I read the Sexy Sadie correspondence. 
So Farrow may have been telling the truth after all! She 
could be innocent or she could be a serial victim, but if 
he fired on other women and Mia Farrow invites unwanted 
attention (yes, I meant that the way I wrote it), it makes 
sense he'd hit on her.

Before the Sexy Sadie file came into being, the Mia Farrow/
Maharishi story was an isolated incident I was inclined to 
dismiss. Now I've read enough to dismiss the Farrow incident 
not as unlikely, but as overkill. I've read enough that I don't 
need it.

 - Patrick Gillam


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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mia Farrow's own take on HER incident with MMY (from her book What 
  falls away, p. 128):
  
  Now we will meditate in my 'cave', said Maharishi, and I followed 
  him down steep wooden steps into a dark, humid little cellar room 
  that smelled of sandalwood.  It was my first time in his cave: 
 there 
  was a small shrine with flowers and a picture of Guru Dev, 
  Maharishi's dead teacher, and a carpet on which we settled 
 ourselves 
  in the lotus position to meditate. After twenty or so minutes we 
  were getting to our feet, still facing each other, but as I'm 
  usually a little disoriented after meditation, I was blinking at 
 his 
  beard when suddenly I became aware of two surprisingly male, hairy 
  arms going around me.  I panicked, and shot up the stairs, 
  apologizing all the way.
 
 That's wild. She already says that she's disoriented and she bases 
 the entire incident on this. I would think that there was non-stop 
 rounding going on during that time, and disoriented for some people 
 included falling down stairs and continuing ontheir way without even 
 noticing that they had just fallen down the stairs(actual incident 
 relatedto me years ago).
 
 IOW, she may have been accosted or was starting to fall over and 
 misinterpreted what happened, or something else entirely. You really 
 can't say ANYTHING based on this incident.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
[...]
 Before the Sexy Sadie file came into being, the Mia Farrow/
 Maharishi story was an isolated incident I was inclined to 
 dismiss. Now I've read enough to dismiss the Farrow incident 
 not as unlikely, but as overkill. I've read enough that I don't 
 need it.

It's sad if MMY has been unable to keepit in his dhoti, given his 
Bramacharyi status. While its true he never claimed celibacy once he 
came to the west, it shows a certain lack of self-control, if true.

However, how do you know that ANY of the stories in the sexy sadie file 
is true? Have you spoken with any of the authors personally?




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fruits of Suffering

2005-09-05 Thread Peter
Ah, thank you for the wisdom of jyotish, grasshopper.
One also sees this wisdom in the flight of the
bumblebee also. Back and forth he tarries, with no
apparent plan. Until we look deep into the triune
patterns of his activity: Hive, flight, flower. Three,
yet one. One, yet three. It has also come my attention
that dog spelled backwards means potato with an e.
Makes you think, doesn't it?  

--- John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To all members:
 
 In light of the devastation in New Orleans, we can
 take heart in the 
 wisdom of jyotish to shed some light on this dire
 predicament.  
 Suffering is represented by the 6th house.  The
 fruit of suffering is 
 five houses (representing the child) away from this
 house.  This 
 leads to the field of battle or the location of
 occupation, the 10th 
 house.  The fruit of our effort or occupation leads
 to wealth, the 
 second house.  Upon reflection of this relationship,
 one comes to the 
 realization that wealth, the second house, can only
 be gained through 
 hard work, the 6th house.
 
 In summary, suffering is a form of wealth in
 disguise. In jyotish, 
 the triune relationship of the 6th, 10th, 2nd houses
 is considered 
 the field of artha, or wealth.
 
 Regards,
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Jesse Jackson/A Racist/Says, Newt Gingrinch'

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 9/5/05 7:23:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Claiming Jesse Jackson, is fanning the flames of hatred;
  
  Newt Gingrich said on 'O'Rielly Factor';
  
  That Mr. Jackson is racist; 
  
  And, that this kind of rhetoric;
  
  Can only be damaging;
  
  To the rescue and recovery effort.
  

I listened to Jesse Jackson on Rainbow/Bush Coalition station 
the other day speaking to his congregation about all this and he told his people 
that burning fossil fuel was causing Carcinogens to rise up in the air and eat 
away the O zone and cause big hurricanes like Katrina. I shit you 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- sparaig wrote:
 
 do you know that ANY of the stories in the sexy sadie file 
 is true? Have you spoken with any of the authors personally?

Oh no, I've not talked to any authors. And of course I cannot 
*know* if any of the stories are true. But so many people's 
stories jibe with one another's that the whole seventies sex 
scenario strikes me as extremely plausible.

I've simply had a shift in what I'm willing to believe.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Greta Dissed by Two Ex-Presidents'

2005-09-05 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Greta van Susteren of Fox News, was upset;
  
 When asking an innocent question;
  
 Of Mr.Bush and Mr. Clinton;
  
 On why the federal government;
  
 Never prepared the levee system;
  
 In New Orleans for a storm;
  
 Which was above cat. 3 status.
  
 Both men, appeared angry;
  
 That Greta had asked, what they thought;
  
 Was a 'gotcha' question.


Or maybe they were 
tired of reading psuedo 
haikus endlessly

Know Haiku is a 
17-syllable verse 
consisting of Three. 

Three unit meter 
of five, seven and five sweet
blessed syllables.

 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Must live in sthpathya ved vastu to initiate

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 In a message dated 9/5/05 4:45:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm not sure if this  has been posted, but I've heard from 
good 
   sources that there's a  new rule from MMY that initiators must 
   live in MSV proper vastu  homes in order to be considered 
 approved 
   to initiate.   I don't know if this is on top of recert. or if 
 the 
   recert  idea is gone.
  
  Let me see if I've got this straight.  The  sequence of
  events, if I've been listening correctly, goes  something
  like this:
  
  1. The TMO says to the few TB  teachers still left in
  the movement, Pay us 3000 bucks to be  'recertified' 
  at something you already learned decades or years  ago
  or you can't teach any more.
  
  2. Then you say,  By the way, you'll have to quit your 
  jobs, because the only people  eligible to be 'recertified' 
  have to agree to work for the TM  movement full time.
  
  3. You temper these demands by saying,  Oh, this isn't
  as bad as it sounds because we'll actually *pay* you  
  a tiny monthly salary for working for us full time.
  
   4. Next, you fail to send out any paychecks after the
  first couple of  abortive months of this new program.
  
  5. Then you add another  requirement, TM can only be
  taught in approved Vastu-correct  buildings.
  
  6. Finally you throw in the clincher, Now that  you
  have quit your jobs and we have stopped paying you,
  you  have to buy an approved Vastu-correct house your-
  self or you won't be  allowed to teach, even though
  we 'recertified' you.
  
   If someone wrote this up for Fortune or Business
  Week as a real  business plan, it would have people
  all over the world on the floor  laughing at the sheer
  idiocy of  it.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 But don't you think M is telling people  in some subtle  way screw 
the 
 movement and do what you want? Kicking the baby birds out of the  
nest to see if 
 they can fly?


That's the conclusion that I'm coming up with more and more...

Perhaps he is also encouraging scisms as well: independent 
teachers, SSRS, etc.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fruits of Suffering

2005-09-05 Thread akasha_108
One whose tried cat turds
Has shakey ground to complain
Of others' fetish.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ah, thank you for the wisdom of jyotish, grasshopper.
 One also sees this wisdom in the flight of the
 bumblebee also. Back and forth he tarries, with no
 apparent plan. Until we look deep into the triune
 patterns of his activity: Hive, flight, flower. Three,
 yet one. One, yet three. It has also come my attention
 that dog spelled backwards means potato with an e.
 Makes you think, doesn't it?  
 
 --- John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  To all members:
  
  In light of the devastation in New Orleans, we can
  take heart in the 
  wisdom of jyotish to shed some light on this dire
  predicament.  
  Suffering is represented by the 6th house.  The
  fruit of suffering is 
  five houses (representing the child) away from this
  house.  This 
  leads to the field of battle or the location of
  occupation, the 10th 
  house.  The fruit of our effort or occupation leads
  to wealth, the 
  second house.  Upon reflection of this relationship,
  one comes to the 
  realization that wealth, the second house, can only
  be gained through 
  hard work, the 6th house.
  
  In summary, suffering is a form of wealth in
  disguise. In jyotish, 
  the triune relationship of the 6th, 10th, 2nd houses
  is considered 
  the field of artha, or wealth.
  
  Regards,
  
  John R.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 [...]
  Paul Mason on one side of the spectrum on the question at hand, 
  Spare Egg on the Other.
 
 Ofcourse. But I'm not pretending to be non-biased on the subject.
 
  
  And every point in between.
  
  Doesn't matter where you are on the above described spectrum, TM 
  will work for you regardless.
 
 I believe so.

Belief has nothing to do with it, Chumly.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [...]
  Does anyone know from where Paul Masons hate of Maharishi stems ?
 
 I would guess the same frustration that many feel when they see the 
TMO 
 going in ways they don't believe are good, based on what they think 
is 
 best for the TMO.
 
 My attitude is simply that its MMY's organization to nurture or 
destroy 
 as he sees fit. Since the whole thing hasn't played out yet (he's 
still 
 alive, as an imporant for instance), I reserve judgement on what 
will 
 happen to the TMO in the next few years.


After MMY dies, I believe alot of things will normalize.

Indeed, once that happens you're going to get alot of TBers acting the 
way communist party members in Eastern Bloc countries acted after the 
fall of communism: Well, we just went along with all the crainess 
because we had to and, you know, we didn't say anything at the time 
because we didn't want to upset the powers that be.  But we realize 
now how nutty all those pronouncements were and, hey, we didn't REALLY 
believe them you know...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 --- sparaig wrote:
  
  do you know that ANY of the stories in the sexy sadie file 
  is true? Have you spoken with any of the authors personally?
 
 Oh no, I've not talked to any authors. And of course I cannot 
 *know* if any of the stories are true. But so many people's 
 stories jibe with one another's that the whole seventies sex 
 scenario strikes me as extremely plausible.
 
 I've simply had a shift in what I'm willing to believe.
 
  - Patrick Gillam

Shift in beliefs can
Trigger eathquake of wisdom.
Or be monkey mind.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did'tn the mayor evacuate the poor with these NO ...

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 9/5/05 5:07:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  INCLUDING little old ladies...who, by the way, seem to be the  drivers 
  of the school buses I usually see on the streets.  In the days 
  leading up to the hurricane when everyone was told to  evaculate, 
  there is simply NO REASON why there wasn't a plan in  place to 
  "deputize" citizens on every block to be the designated  school bus 
  drivers for all those buses in the photo sitting there  doing 
  nothing.  And how in hell the responsibility for such a plan 
  could be on the  Feds and NOT on the local administration I do not 
  know.Was such a plan feasable given the number of people?The 
  city of New Orleans had already (December of last year) issued a warning 
  that the City could NOT evacuate everyone who needed assistance due to 
  lack of resources.

Yes such a plan was feasible. The city had over 500 hundred 
buses, school and city public transportation. They used some to go around 
and pick up people and take them to the super dome, but not out of the city. 
Tonight on "Special report With Britt Hume" Britt reported that on Saturday 
before the storm the head of the National Weather Bureau called the Mayor and 
told him he needed to evacuate the city because they were about to take a direct 
hit from a class 5 hurricane and the Mayor told him he would not evacuate the 
city.ThateveningPresident Bush called the Mayor and had to 
plead with him to get him to evacuate NewOrleans. Now can you imagine what 
would have happened had he still refused to call an evacuation and nobody 
left New Orleans?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: why do we pick on T(rue) B(elievers)?

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Whether TBs believe Maharishi had sex or not, whether they believe 
him
 as their saviour, whether they want to keep giving money or not, why
 do we keep picking on them, hypothesizing what they would or wouldn't
 do if this that or the other thing occurs?  
 
 It's like listening to a bunch of geriatric ladies sitting on
 benches cackling with nothing nice to say, as if the only thing they 
 have left are vitriolic memories they must spew. 
 
 Leave the TBs alone and find something more useful to do with your
 time-take a walk, love your so, play an instrument, eat good food.
 
 Is your life so much better for your belief's than theirs?


I don't think the TBers SHOULD be left alone...especially those around 
MMY.  For it is the TBers, I believe, who have by their silence and 
acquiescence allowed alot of the nuttiness emanating from the top of 
the TMO to blossom and continue.

Being so close to the nucleus they have a responsibility more than 
anyone to point out to the powers that be that the TMO has become a 
dead-on cult.

So, no, let's NOT leave them alone...let's light a fire under their 
asses and, hey, maybe a message just very well might get through...




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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Feds/36 Hours Too Late/ For Many...'

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 9/5/05 7:09:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  36 hours in a crisis, can make all the difference in the world.
  

Generals say they need at least 48 hours for militaryand 
it's up to local and stateto manage till they get there. Governor didn't 
call up enough Louisiana National Guard from the get 
go.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have either Tantra or Spare Egg heard Chavez speak?
 
 It may interest them to know that Chavez makes Georg Bush, 
   Franklin 
 Graham and the U.S. religious right look like Madeleine 
 Murray 
O'Hare 
 secularists by comparison. Chavez invokes the name of God 
and 
   Jesus 
 every second sentence (plays very well with the lower-
class 
Catholic 
 masses that make up his country) and pretty well makes his 
electorate 
 understand that he talks to God every day and that God 
tells 
  him 
what 
 to do...

Not sure what this has to do with the post you're
responding to, but on its own terms:

A lot of us wouldn't mind so much if Bush invoked
God and Jesus even more than Chavez if his actions
were consistent with Christian principles.  It's the
hypocrisy that is so repellent.
   
   Chavez literally puts his nation's money where his mouth is 
with 
   Citgo.
  
  ...and do you honestly think that the sort of distribution of 
 wealth 
  advocated by the likes of Chavez is a good thing?
 
 Do you think its a bad thing automatically? Why?


1) Because he's a socialist;

2) he hangs around mass-murderer, human-rights-violating anti-
democratic totalitarian communist dictator Fidel Castro and it's 
guilt-by-association.

3) These offers are so obviously for propaganda purposes.

4) But,hey, if he wants to give money...I'd take it!




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TBers' responses to suggestions of MMY's improprieties

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 I think what you'd find if you looked into it is that
 the higher the altar they've put Maharishi on, the
 less time they've actually spent in his presence.
 Judy has never even been in the same room with the
 man, after 30+ years of devoted TM practice.

You just disproved your own formula, because I've
*never* put MMY on an altar.  The rest of your
rant is equally misapplied; I don't believe *any*
of the things you (or Paul) attribute to me.
Not one.
   
   Yeah, right, babe.  That's why you couldn't
   bring yourself to answer Shemp's questions
   about whether you'd still have learned TM 
   if the TM movement of today was the one you
   had run into 30 years ago.
   
   Pussy.  :-)
  
  And for the record, let me try and get Judy to address those 
  questions once again:
  
  Judy, could you please address the questions on message #70057?
 
 If you can tell me how they're relevant to what
 I said in the post you were responding to.


I see.

so you won't answer.

Okay.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have either Tantra or Spare Egg heard Chavez speak?
 
 It may interest them to know that Chavez makes Georg Bush, 
   Franklin 
 Graham and the U.S. religious right look like Madeleine 
 Murray 
O'Hare 
 secularists by comparison. Chavez invokes the name of God 
and 
   Jesus 
 every second sentence (plays very well with the lower-
class 
Catholic 
 masses that make up his country) and pretty well makes his 
electorate 
 understand that he talks to God every day and that God 
tells 
  him 
what 
 to do...

Not sure what this has to do with the post you're
responding to, but on its own terms:

A lot of us wouldn't mind so much if Bush invoked
God and Jesus even more than Chavez if his actions
were consistent with Christian principles.  It's the
hypocrisy that is so repellent.
   
   Chavez literally puts his nation's money where his mouth is 
with 
   Citgo.
  
  ...and do you honestly think that the sort of distribution of 
  wealth advocated by the likes of Chavez is a good thing?
 
 Seems to be what Jesus preached: Go, sell all you have
 and give the money to the poor.


Well, then, both Chavez AND Jesus were losers and failed 
economists...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Housing for the Refugees?

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Speak English, please.

What the hell is tuppeny shit?
   
   Prior to decimalisation in 1972, the pound was
   thoughtfully divided into twenty shillings, each
   shilling being divided into 12 pennies. Tuppence 
   is two such pennies.
   
   To test your comprehension, if you have three 
   pounds fiveteen shillings and fivepence in 
   your pocket, and you need to divide this between
   seven friends, how much will each person receive,
   and how much will be left over?
   Uns.
  
  
  Each person will receive 129 pence with 2 pence left over.
  
  Put in more currency-correct English, that is 10 shillings, 9 
pence 
  each with 2 pence left over.
  
  Or...enough for each person to buy an order of bashers and 
  mangers...or is it mashers and bangers?
 
 Ten and nine; absolutely correct.


Hey, does that mean that Mason -- a home-grown Brit -- was wrong 
with HIS answer?  -):




 It would have got 
 us into the cinema with an ice cream at the interval
 and kept us out of the way for the rest of ther day
 with, as you suggest, bangers and mash (or more likely
 fish and chips).
 
 Your reward for this excellent homework is this:
 http://www.padrak.com/ine/FABFACTS.html
 Uns.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'

2005-09-05 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Seems to be what Jesus preached: Go, sell all you have
  and give the money to the poor.
 
 
 Well, then, both Chavez AND Jesus were losers and failed 
 economists...

Better to be a failed economist than to never to have been one at all. :)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'

2005-09-05 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Seems to be what Jesus preached: Go, sell all you have
   and give the money to the poor.
  
  
  Well, then, both Chavez AND Jesus were losers and failed 
  economists...
 
 Better to be a failed economist than to never to have been one at
all. :)

Better to be a
Failed economist than
To never be one.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought about just this subject just before I went into 
 meditation this evening. I realised the truth of how 
important 
 it is to not set any impediment to letting go of thought. 
That 
 is the meaning of renunciation for a someone practising TM.

Exactly.  And being attached to one's thoughts as right 
is setting an impediment to letting go of them.
   
   Not in the context of TM practice, it isn't.
  
  well, no more-so than being attached to one's thoughts 
as wrong.
 
 Eggzactly.

That's Spare-Eggzactly.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Greta Dissed by Two Ex-Presidents'

2005-09-05 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 9/5/05 8:06:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
--- In 
  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Greta van Susteren of Fox News, was 
  upset;  When asking an innocent question; 
   Of Mr.Bush and Mr. Clinton;  On why the federal 
  government;  Never prepared the levee 
  system;  In New Orleans for a storm; 
   Which was above cat. 3 status.  Both men, 
  appeared angry;  That Greta had asked, what they 
  thought;  Was a 'gotcha' 
question.

No, it was a question based on rumors that are false. I 
listened to Washington Journal on C-Span this morning and one guest was Lt. Gen. 
Carl Strack, US Army Corp of Engineers. He said the current levee system has 
been under construction since 1965 and still isn't finished. He was asked if 
funding cuts were the reason it has not been upgraded to withstand a category 4 
or 5 and he said no. He said that has only been in a planning stage and hasn't 
been approved yet and further more once it is approved it will be many years 
down the road before it could be in place.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: why do we pick on T(rue) B(elievers)?

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 -ditto
 it is one thing to post what you have heard, or believe etc, but 
to go 
 on and on as though you are the only one who knows the truth, 
comes 
 off as an ignorant know it all. If you were really enlightened 
 or above it all you wouldn't give a damn what anyone else 
believes.
 Either you know the truth or you have some belief. Why is any 
one 
 belief here, any better than anyone elses? my guru is better than 
 yours is immature and tiresome. I appreciate all the information, 
but 
 when it turns into personal slams, the appeal is lost. 





IT'S BECAUSE BELIEF ISN'T SUPPOSED TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH 
TM!!!

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT!

And the TBers have MADE it into a belief/cult system.

And that's why they are and SHOULD be picked on.








 
 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Whether TBs believe Maharishi had sex or not, whether they 
believe 
 him
  as their saviour, whether they want to keep giving money or not, 
why
  do we keep picking on them, hypothesizing what they would or 
wouldn't
  do if this that or the other thing occurs?  
  
  It's like listening to a bunch of geriatric ladies sitting on
  benches cackling with nothing nice to say, as if the only thing 
they 
  have left are vitriolic memories they must spew. 
  
  Leave the TBs alone and find something more useful to do with 
your
  time-take a walk, love your so, play an instrument, eat good 
food.
  
  Is your life so much better for your belief's than theirs?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  
  ...and do you honestly think that the sort of distribution of 
wealth 
  advocated by the likes of Chavez is a good thing?
 
 
 What specifically is Chavez's distribution of wealth policy to 
which
 you object? And try to stick to the specific point, not a lot of 
side
 issues you may have with Chavez. What specifically is Chavez's
 distribution of wealth policy to which you object? 



Distributing Venezuela's oil wealth to help displaced victims of NO.

It's a propaganda move -- as I've pointed out before -- inspired by 
similar past declarations by Castro.

It is designed to demonstrate that socialism is a good thing for 
poor people whereas it is, of course, just the opposite.




 
 I don't have a firm opinion on the guy, but every time you rally
 against him, I look the issues up and find the guy's actual 
policies
 to be pretty mainstream.
 
 Chavez's Policies:  
 
 • Full legal and pay equality between women and men in employment.
 
 • The recognition of housework as an economic activity that creates
 surplus value and produces social wealth and well-being.
 
 • Social security and a pension for housewives.
 
 • A minimum wage, an 8-hour day, no compulsory overtime and the 
right
 to paid holidays. Women, the lowest paid everywhere, who do a 
double
 day of unwaged caring work on top of low-waged work, would benefit 
most.
 
 • Protection from discrimination based on sex, race, politics, age,
 religion and disability. Positive steps to favor those who may be
 discriminated against, marginalized or vulnerable, and punishment 
of
 those guilty of abuse or mistreatment.
 
 • Recognition of Venezuelan sign language, and the use of 
subtitles in
 TV programs.
 
 • Recognition and protection of Indigenous communities, their 
social,
 political and economic organizations, cultures, religious and 
health
 practices, the collective ownership of ancestral land and 
knowledge.
 Bilingual education in Indigenous areas. Women stress that it is 
their
 work that has kept cultures and languages alive.
 
 … Outlawing the patenting of genes, technologies and inventions
 arising from ancestral knowledge or resources.
 
 • No privatization of water; food security through sustainable
 agriculture; protection of the environment.
 
 • No oil privatization -- the State will keep 100% of oil shares.
 
  
 
 Always the poorest everywhere, women have the most to gain from all
 these reforms. Despite the elite's power to frustrate change, there
 have been remarkable achievements that we have not yet won in most
 countries in spite of our own years of struggle.
 
 • A strong commitment to tackling domestic violence and the 
machismo
 of the justice system.
 
 • A Women's Bank that puts money for income generation directly 
into
 women's hands.
 
 • Better child nutrition and greater school attendance through free
 breakfast programs and a clampdown on schools illegally charging 
fees.
 A dramatic drop in the infant mortality rate.
 
 • The distribution of title deeds to land built on by squatters,
 mostly woman-headed households in the shanty towns on the Caracas 
hills.
 
 • A law distributing unused state and private land to rural people.
 Women, including Indigenous women, are often the main 
agriculturalists.
 
 • Subsidies of $1000-$2000 to small farmers -- a lot for people
 earning $15 a month.
 
 
 
 The Land Reform law provides for expropriation with compensation 
of
 idle farmlands, as well as arable lands exceeding 12,350 acres in
 areas of poor soil (350 acres in areas of rich soil), to be
 redistributed to landless workers. It is also important to note
 (though Hadden doesn't) that in the 1960's big landowners and 
ranchers
 expanded their fences to expropriate most of the state-owned
 marshlands the government intended for redistribution. Current 
stats
 on land concentration are appalling: One percent of farms account 
for
 46% of farmland, one percent of the population owns 60% of arable
 lands, and 40% of all Venezuelan farmlands lie fallow. As a result,
 Venezuela is agronomically undiversified and chronically dependent 
on
 oil and imports, while the urban population has exploded, causing
 crime, unemployment, and pollution rates to soar. Even the
 middle-class Chavez foes I spoke to said the need for land reform 
is a
 no-brainer. 
 
 
 
 In fact, the real story is that el proceso, the movement that 
swept
 Chavez to power, is the embryonic manifestation of a new political
 philosophy in which economic and institutional power is dominated 
by
 neither the state nor big business interests, but instead is
 decentralized and directly influenced through public, participatory
 processes. Like it or not, el proceso is gaining strength and
 captivating the imaginations of people all across Latin America,
 especially in Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: TBers' responses to suggestions of MMY's improprieties

2005-09-05 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 TurquoiseB wrote:
  Go beam yourselves, assholes.
 
 There are rules on this forum - I've seen people get banned for saying
 less.

Banning has been rare
Only one comes to my mind
And he arose quickly

Like a pheonix 
Out of the sunken city
To write much chaos




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[FairfieldLife] Re: why do we pick on T(rue) B(elievers)?

2005-09-05 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Whether TBs believe Maharishi had sex or not, whether they believe 
 him
  as their saviour, whether they want to keep giving money or not, why
  do we keep picking on them, hypothesizing what they would or wouldn't
  do if this that or the other thing occurs?  
  
  It's like listening to a bunch of geriatric ladies sitting on
  benches cackling with nothing nice to say, as if the only thing they 
  have left are vitriolic memories they must spew. 
  
  Leave the TBs alone and find something more useful to do with your
  time-take a walk, love your so, play an instrument, eat good food.
  
  Is your life so much better for your belief's than theirs?
 
 
 I don't think the TBers SHOULD be left alone...especially those around 
 MMY.  For it is the TBers, I believe, who have by their silence and 
 acquiescence allowed alot of the nuttiness emanating from the top of 
 the TMO to blossom and continue.
 
 Being so close to the nucleus they have a responsibility more than 
 anyone to point out to the powers that be that the TMO has become a 
 dead-on cult.
 
 So, no, let's NOT leave them alone...let's light a fire under their 
 asses and, hey, maybe a message just very well might get through...

yah, but to them their beliefs are not dead end, the NON TB beliefs are.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'

2005-09-05 Thread akasha_108
HAHAHA

Thats the biggest complaint you have about Chavez's distribution of
wealth policy?

Well then. Given the large list of postives or his policies, I guess
we would all vote his policies as quite grand.

But then again ... hmmm, the guy does use PR. I can't think of ANY
other politician that does that, and it is a heinious crime, so you
got me there. 

And he wants to do so many bad things with regards to distribution of
wealth: 

• Full legal and pay equality between women and men in employment.

• The recognition of housework as an economic activity that creates
surplus value and produces social wealth and well-being.

• Social security and a pension for housewives.
 
• A minimum wage, an 8-hour day, no compulsory overtime and the 
 right to paid holidays. 
 
• Protection from discrimination based on sex, race, politics, age,
religion and disability. 

• Recognition of Venezuelan sign language, and the use of subtitles in
TV programs.

• Recognition and protection of Indigenous communities, their 
social, political and economic organizations, cultures, religious and 
health practices, the collective ownership of ancestral land and 
knowledge.

. Bilingual education in Indigenous areas. Women stress that it is 
their work that has kept cultures and languages alive.
 
. Outlawing the patenting of genes, technologies and inventions
arising from ancestral knowledge or resources.

• No privatization of water; food security through sustainable
agriculture; protection of the environment.

• A strong commitment to tackling domestic violence and the 
 machismo of the justice system.

• A Women's Bank that puts money for income generation directly 
into  women's hands.

• Better child nutrition and greater school attendance through free
breakfast programs and a clampdown on schools illegally charging 
fees.

• The distribution of title deeds to land built on by squatters,
mostly woman-headed households in the shanty towns on the Caracas 
hills.

• A law distributing unused state and private land to rural people.


Yea, the guy is a monster. His policies are, well, so extreme!! And he
uses PR  Holy Crap!!  Lets go shoot him and any other
politician that uses PR

Thanks for bringing this monster and his heinous crimes and immoral
distribution polices to our attention. I hope no one in Venezuala will
have to suffer under the autrocities that these policies represent.
Good call. Spot on!!!








--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
   
   ...and do you honestly think that the sort of distribution of 
 wealth 
   advocated by the likes of Chavez is a good thing?
  
  
  What specifically is Chavez's distribution of wealth policy to 
 which
  you object? And try to stick to the specific point, not a lot of 
 side
  issues you may have with Chavez. What specifically is Chavez's
  distribution of wealth policy to which you object? 
 
 
 
 Distributing Venezuela's oil wealth to help displaced victims of NO.
 
 It's a propaganda move -- as I've pointed out before -- inspired by 
 similar past declarations by Castro.
 
 It is designed to demonstrate that socialism is a good thing for 
 poor people whereas it is, of course, just the opposite.
 
 
 
 
  
  I don't have a firm opinion on the guy, but every time you rally
  against him, I look the issues up and find the guy's actual 
 policies
  to be pretty mainstream.
  
  Chavez's Policies:  
  
  • Full legal and pay equality between women and men in employment.
  
  • The recognition of housework as an economic activity that creates
  surplus value and produces social wealth and well-being.
  
  • Social security and a pension for housewives.
  
  • A minimum wage, an 8-hour day, no compulsory overtime and the 
 right
  to paid holidays. Women, the lowest paid everywhere, who do a 
 double
  day of unwaged caring work on top of low-waged work, would benefit 
 most.
  
  • Protection from discrimination based on sex, race, politics, age,
  religion and disability. Positive steps to favor those who may be
  discriminated against, marginalized or vulnerable, and punishment 
 of
  those guilty of abuse or mistreatment.
  
  • Recognition of Venezuelan sign language, and the use of 
 subtitles in
  TV programs.
  
  • Recognition and protection of Indigenous communities, their 
 social,
  political and economic organizations, cultures, religious and 
 health
  practices, the collective ownership of ancestral land and 
 knowledge.
  Bilingual education in Indigenous areas. Women stress that it is 
 their
  work that has kept cultures and languages alive.
  
  … Outlawing the patenting of genes, technologies and inventions
  arising from ancestral knowledge or resources.
  
  • No privatization of water; food security through sustainable
  agriculture; protection of 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/5/05 7:19 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rick Archer wrote:
 Of course, on many other occasions, with
 other partners, he hit home runs.
 
 This isn't your finest moment, Rick - apparently you'll stoop to any
 level to bash the Maharishi - up to and including discussing his
 private sex life, or lack thereof.

It has been discussed here often. Are public figures who base their
reputations in part on their having lived celibate lives entitled to privacy
if they haven't actually done so? Maybe. Maybe not. Is general, I try to
avoid chiming in on the topic these days. But since it was being discussed,
I stooped.

Maybe it's time for someone else to
 moderate this forum.

How about if Barry and Judy co-moderate it?

Is this supposed to be a family-oriented
 discussion group?

Without sex, there would be no families.

Are there any rules on this forum?

No booger jokes. Dave Barry has a copyright on them.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TBers' responses to suggestions of MMY's improprieties

2005-09-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/5/05 7:20 PM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 TurquoiseB wrote:
 Pussy.  :-)
 
 You've got a foul mouth, Sir - maybe it's time for you to shut your
 pie hole.

Ah, the nostalgia. It's been months since I heard that phrase.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: TBers' responses to suggestions of MMY's improprieties

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
   And for the record, let me try and get Judy to address those 
   questions once again:
   
   Judy, could you please address the questions on message #70057?
  
  If you can tell me how they're relevant to what
  I said in the post you were responding to.
 
 I see.
 
 so you won't answer.

Shemp, your reading comprehension problems are
getting progressively worse.





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[FairfieldLife] 'Where is the: The Finest Relative located?

2005-09-05 Thread Robert Gimbel



A month or so ago, there was some discussion;

On where to locate and experience;

And culture, the 'finest relative';

As Maharishi calls it; in G.C.

Is it: discrimination between Buddhi and Purusha?(the intellect and pure consc.)

Or is it more to do with the: "Name of God" sutra?

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[FairfieldLife] Margaret Henderson

2005-09-05 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Margaret Henderson





Margaret Hendersen is a Sidha who cleans houses and trailers in Utopia Park. Three weeks ago she badly injured her knee in a fall that resulted in the knee popping out of the socket, as well as extensive cartilage and soft tissue damage. The Doctors have indicated that her recuperative time will be 4-6 months.
 
Her inability to work has caused her much stress. She has no income to pay her rent and utilities. Even the purchase of food has become a financial problem. 
 
I am asking 50 people to donate $10 each to give her a base from which to pay bills. I used this method to raise scholarship funds when I ran My Lucky Day and found that most people can give this amount comfortably without burden. Any amount you choos to give will be greatly appreciated,.
 
Also, at least one cooked meal is needed daily or a donation of the price of a meal. Donations of cash or food will be picked up for delivery by calling Florence at 472-2749. If you wish to send a check, you may send it directly to Margaret at 202 West Burlington, FF, 52556. She rents from and lives above Dr. Yudin, dentist.
 
Thank you for your generous hearts.
 
Many blessings!
 
Florence Davis






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Feds/36 Hours Too Late/ For Many...'

2005-09-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 In a message dated 9/5/05 7:09:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  
 36 hours in a crisis, can make all the difference in the world.
  
 
 
 
 
 Generals say they need at least 48 hours for military and  it's up to 
local 
 and state to manage till they get there. Governor didn't  call up 
enough 
 Louisiana National Guard from the get  go.

3500 were mobilized monday morning...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Greta Dissed by Two Ex-Presidents'

2005-09-05 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Greta van Susteren of Fox News, was upset;
   
  When asking an innocent question;
   
  Of Mr.Bush and Mr. Clinton;
   
  On why the federal government;
   
  Never prepared the levee system;
   
  In New Orleans for a storm;
   
  Which was above cat. 3 status.
   
  Both men, appeared angry;
   
  That Greta had asked, what they thought;
   
  Was a 'gotcha' question.
 
 
 Or maybe they were 
 tired of reading psuedo 
 haikus endlessly
 
 Know Haiku is a 
 17-syllable verse 
 consisting of Three. 
 
 Three unit meter 
 of five, seven and five sweet
 blessed syllables.

Whenever Robert posts these verses of his I want to 
propose a rule making one day of the week Poetry Day 
at Fairfield life. Say, all posts on Tuesday have to be in 
verse. Doesn't matter what kind -- free verse is fine. 
But writers of sonnets and particularly witty limericks 
get extra points.

These posts have a way of turning into free verse anyway, 
what with all the whacky line breaks you see after a few 
replies. I say let's encourage the phenomenon.

 - Patrick Gillam






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Human Storm'/Refugees/Stream Across U.S.'

2005-09-05 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- Robert Gimbel wrote:

 Many survivors of this countries worst catastrophe in ages;
  
 Are becoming restless, in Huston, TX.

Oh, this is just too perfect. I propose Poetry Day on Fairfield 
Life and Robert posts his first rhyme. And not in a show-offy 
way, either. 

Had you spelled out Texas, Rob, it would have been too obvious.  
As it is, very clever. 

 - Patrick Gillam





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[FairfieldLife] Re: NO's not the only place having problems with drinking water

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 If you think George W. Bush has credibility problems after his
 administration's bungling attempts to get safe drinking water
 to the Katrina disaster area, try being an executive of Coca-
 Cola in Britain right about now.  
 
So, you're suggesting that tap water in Europe and Britain is unfit
for human consumption? And you prefer living over there? Go figure.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Housing for the Refugees?

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think I heard that here in Fairfield there are 400 houses on 
  the market. I don¹t know how many apartments for rent. I¹m going 
  to check. I imagine that around the entire country there are more 
  than enough empty houses and apartments to accommodate all the 
  Katrina refugees. Seems to me some sort of government funding 
  should be set up to compensate the owners and landlords of these 
  houses and apartments, and people should be moved from the
  Astrodome and church basements. Any thoughts on this idea?
 
 It's not a bad idea. 

To create another, huge, government bureaucracy?
 
 If something could be done to ease
 the minds of the homeowners w.r.t. possible damage to their
 homes, it might even wind up saving them money.  It costs
 far more to insure an empty home waiting to be sold than
 a home that is occupied.





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[FairfieldLife] From Claudia Dubuque in Louisiana

2005-09-05 Thread Rick Archer
This is from a woman whose husband couldn't stand watching the news anymore
and so loaded his van with gas and drove down to Louisiana. He has been
shuttling people to better locations. If anyone feels moved to help, email
his wife: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   From: Claudia Dubuque [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 13:39:26 -0500
   Subject: Hi Y'all  News From Louisianna!


   First my apologies for not answering or keeping up with the emails
this week.  If you have not heard I thought I would update you on our
lives.  Bob has been in Louisianna now for 3 days.  He took the big van
and hooked up with Louisianna State Univ and is transporting the Katrina
Victims to different locations.  He brought all the gas, water and food
the van would hold and the people are eating cold soup and refried beans.
The first trip was a total of 12, 3 kids and 9 adults and he took them to
the Houson Convention Center.  Everyone slept the whole way.  The second
trip was more lively.he drove them to Dodson, LA.  250 miles north of
the area they are from.  An elderly couple had the hardest tale to
tell...they had to walk thirteen miles half through chest deep waters,
were seperated and lost and then refound each other later very
miraculously.  Her feet hurt she said and he had a black eye.

   Bob slept a little bit yesterday from 4AM to 8AM because he did not
want to drive through the trashed areas in the dark.  He is emotional and
happy to be in the thick of things helping.

   We have no doubt that everyone is doing what they can to help and will
find the best niche for themselves, but here is yet another chance to
give.

   At this point the gas bill is about $250 per day of which we are fine
with at this point.  If anyone feels moved to help out, we would feel very
grateful to leave him where he, and keep funding him, knowing full well
that, given the workhorse he is, the money is put to the best use.

   He hooked up with Red Cross first and they had him stacking already
stacked boxes, so he was tipped off by a guy who just came home from Iraq
who told him to go to Lousianna State and don't take no for an answer.
Bob is very good at that!!

   We are fine in Fairfield.happy to be helping.

   I will keep everyone in the loop.

   Let me know if you are inspired to help out and we will figure out a
way.

   Love from Iowa,

   Claudia





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Finally, something wise and compassionate about NO

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 TurquoiseB wrote:
 
 Found on another forum:
 
 There's an MI5 directive that states that every community, 
 no matter how civilized, is only four missed meals away 
 from anarchy. Couple that with the maxim that most folks 
 in America are only three missed paychecks away from 
 homelessness, and it's a pretty fine line that divides 
 where I sit from where they sit. I, for one, am thankful 
 as hell to be able to enjoy the luxury of those three 
 paychecks and four meals.
 
 
   
 
 Having a 401K doesn't hurt either.

To supplement your Social Security? ROTFLMAO!!!




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Hurricane Relief Effort/It Takes A Village

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 On August 31, Wednesday, after everyone knew
 the extent of the Katrina disaster, Condi Rice,
 on vacation in New York City, enjoyed a Broadway
 musical.
 
 The following day, Thursday, she spent several
 thousand dollars on shoes at Ferragamo's on
 Fifth Avenue.  When another shopper came up to
 her and asked what she was doing buying shoes
 when thousands were dying and homeless, Condi had
 security physically remove the woman.

Who said this tragedy wasn't about race?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: How to awaken kundalini?

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
  Can anyone please tell me as many methods as possible of kundalini 
  awakening without using mantras, prayer, or physical activity? 
 
TurquoiseB wrote:
 French twins who are strong in the knowledge does 
 it for me.

Both at the same time? 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: How to awaken kundalini?

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote:
 It's a taste of shakti.

So you are in a Shakti cult - just like I said.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Your Government at Work

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
jstein wrote:
 From Kevin Drum's blog, Political Animal,
 at WashingtonMonthly.com:
 
Confirmation bias refers to a type of selective thinking whereby one
tends to notice and to look for what confirms one's beliefs, and to
ignore, not look for, or undervalue the relevance of what contradicts
one's beliefs.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9/5/05 4:58 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  That's wild. She already says that she's disoriented and she 
bases
  the entire incident on this. I would think that there was non-
stop
  rounding going on during that time, and disoriented for some 
people
  included falling down stairs and continuing ontheir way without 
even
  noticing that they had just fallen down the stairs(actual 
incident
  relatedto me years ago).
  
  IOW, she may have been accosted or was starting to fall over and
  misinterpreted what happened, or something else entirely. You 
really
  can't say ANYTHING based on this incident.
 
 I agree. The Mia Farrow incident is only significant in light of 
all the
 other incidents, and as such is still insignificant. Nothing 
happened. He
 didn't even get to first base. Of course, on many other occasions, 
with
 other partners, he hit home runs.


What's with the hug after meditation...is it, as Mia said Prudence 
said to her that it is a great honor to be touched after meditation 
by the teacher?

This is the first I've heard of that...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
shempm wrote: 
 What's with the hug after meditation.

It's very popular now to hug your guru or student. There's a hugging
guru in India - I think they call her Ma, but they don't even bother
with the meditation. Go figure.

 ..is it, as Mia said Prudence said to her that it is a great 
 honor to be touched after meditation by the teacher?
 
It's a great honor to be in the very presence of a great teacher.

 This is the first I've heard of that...

I already told you that this was a Maharishi-bashing group.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/5/05 11:16 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 For another interesting perspective on the whole Mia/Maha episode,
 read Nancy Cooke de Herrera's Beyond Gurus.  Going on memory, it
 appears that after the hugging incident, Mia was quite vocal that
 something untoward had happened and then she left the compound to go
 on Safari somewhere (with Bungalo Bill?). But she in fact returned
 at some later time, perhaps a few days or weeks later.  And I think
 the point that Nancy Cooke was trying to make was: if MMY had indeed
 hit on her the way she claimed, why then return to the course?
 Wouldn't a victim want to be done with the whole thing?

Mia didn't return. She went to Goa with Maharishi's Brahmachari's trailing
her, then left India. Nancy and her son went on a tiger hunt in the middle
of the TTC, then returned, hence the song:

Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill? (2x)

When out tiger hunting with his elephantine gun
In case of accidents he always took his mom
He's the all American bullet-headed saxon mother's son.
All the children sing

Hey Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill? (2x)

Deep in the jungle where the mighty tiger lies
Bill and his elephants were taken by surprise
So Captain Marvel zapped him right between the eyes
All the children sing

Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill? (2x)

The children asked him if to kill was not a sin
But when he looked so fierce, his mummy butted in
If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him
All the children sing

Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill? (8x) (fade out)





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[FairfieldLife] 'Murder by Negligence?...'

2005-09-05 Thread Robert Gimbel



Murder by negligence.All confirmed via the life TV feed at: http://www.wdsu.com. Blatently lacking: aid activity. One helicopter and Bush on his second visit. Devestation.I watched for about an hour some 12 hours ago and all Duane states became horrible truth for me on live TV."All we had untill now is talk. Everyone is tired of press-conferences, they want hands on the street." as one reporter mentioned.If this doesn't start the questioning nothing will.Milson Macleod wrote: From: "Duane barker"  Some of the people at the New Orleans superdome still, who were  supposed to be evacuated by now according to the news, refused to  shake the president's hand today. He looked very shaken. What an  insult! A sudden dose of what's to come for him.
 This guy will make  Nixon's fall from power look like a rose garden. People are really  mad, all around the country, from what they are seeing on TV. Last Sunday the FEMA top manager in New Orleans was asked how they  would feed the 10,000 people taking refuge in the Superdome, the ONLY  building in all of New Orleans rated for a Cat 4 hurricane. He said on  TV, we're not going to feed them, we're going to wait and see how many  are left alive after this hurricane strikes. He was right there in the  Superdome last Sunday, over one week ago. I saw him last night on the  recap by CNN of the hurricane. I saw this idiot say this. Of course, after the hurricane, there still was no food or water for  the people who were being evacuated to the Superdome and the freeway  overpasses in droves to suffer there in the heat. Ten people were  murdered there by
 FEMA, and many were raped due to the lack of any  military assistance. The New Orleans police were all out committing  suicide, including the official police department spokesman, due to  being asked by thousands when help was coming, and listening to the  cries of people trapped for five days in their attics up to their  necks in water. How would you feel hearing those women and children crying out for  help and knowing there were over 100,000 still trapped in the city,  thousands dying like rats, with no help coming? They must be mostly  dead now, if we wait a little longer you can get them all, Mr.  President. Hey, and I'm a Republican, how mad do you think those who already didn't like this  administration are about this shameful treatment of Americans? The  mayor believes he got out 80%, although in previous non mandatory  evacuations no more than 60% of the
 city had ever been evacuated. Do  the math, that leaves at least 100,000 people. Where are they now?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Chavez Wants To Help'/'Bush Says No!'

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 HAHAHA
 
 Thats the biggest complaint you have about Chavez's distribution of
 wealth policy?


Well, I also wrote that stuff about guilt by association with Castro.



 
 Well then. Given the large list of postives or his policies, I 
guess
 we would all vote his policies as quite grand.





Policies mean absolutely nothing.  Indeed, the biggest despots in 
history had the most wonderful, grandest policies on paper than 
anyone else.

It's what they actually do once they are in power that counts.

Castro, Chavez's friend and ally, has enslaved 11 million 
people...and he's murdered 10s of thousands.

Chavez is already passing laws violating freedom of speech and 
freedom of the press.  

He is on record as stating that he is heading a revolution and that 
he is a socialist.

Taken together, these are enough of indications that the guy is 
trouble...BIG trouble...





 
 But then again ... hmmm, the guy does use PR. I can't think of ANY
 other politician that does that, and it is a heinious crime, so you
 got me there. 
 
 And he wants to do so many bad things with regards to distribution 
of
 wealth: 
 
 • Full legal and pay equality between women and men in employment.
 
 • The recognition of housework as an economic activity that creates
 surplus value and produces social wealth and well-being.
 
 • Social security and a pension for housewives.
  
 • A minimum wage, an 8-hour day, no compulsory overtime and the 
  right to paid holidays. 
  
 • Protection from discrimination based on sex, race, politics, age,
 religion and disability. 
 
 • Recognition of Venezuelan sign language, and the use of 
subtitles in
 TV programs.
 
 • Recognition and protection of Indigenous communities, their 
 social, political and economic organizations, cultures, religious 
and 
 health practices, the collective ownership of ancestral land and 
 knowledge.
 
 . Bilingual education in Indigenous areas. Women stress that it is 
 their work that has kept cultures and languages alive.
  
 . Outlawing the patenting of genes, technologies and inventions
 arising from ancestral knowledge or resources.
 
 • No privatization of water; food security through sustainable
 agriculture; protection of the environment.
 
 • A strong commitment to tackling domestic violence and the 
  machismo of the justice system.
 
 • A Women's Bank that puts money for income generation directly 
 into  women's hands.
 
 • Better child nutrition and greater school attendance through free
 breakfast programs and a clampdown on schools illegally charging 
 fees.
 
 • The distribution of title deeds to land built on by squatters,
 mostly woman-headed households in the shanty towns on the Caracas 
 hills.
 
 • A law distributing unused state and private land to rural people.
 
 
 Yea, the guy is a monster. His policies are, well, so extreme!! 
And he
 uses PR  Holy Crap!!  Lets go shoot him and any other
 politician that uses PR
 
 Thanks for bringing this monster and his heinous crimes and immoral
 distribution polices to our attention. I hope no one in Venezuala 
will
 have to suffer under the autrocities that these policies represent.
 Good call. Spot on!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
   

...and do you honestly think that the sort of distribution 
of 
  wealth 
advocated by the likes of Chavez is a good thing?
   
   
   What specifically is Chavez's distribution of wealth policy to 
  which
   you object? And try to stick to the specific point, not a lot 
of 
  side
   issues you may have with Chavez. What specifically is Chavez's
   distribution of wealth policy to which you object? 
  
  
  
  Distributing Venezuela's oil wealth to help displaced victims of 
NO.
  
  It's a propaganda move -- as I've pointed out before -- inspired 
by 
  similar past declarations by Castro.
  
  It is designed to demonstrate that socialism is a good thing for 
  poor people whereas it is, of course, just the opposite.
  
  
  
  
   
   I don't have a firm opinion on the guy, but every time you 
rally
   against him, I look the issues up and find the guy's actual 
  policies
   to be pretty mainstream.
   
   Chavez's Policies:  
   
   • Full legal and pay equality between women and men in 
employment.
   
   • The recognition of housework as an economic activity that 
creates
   surplus value and produces social wealth and well-being.
   
   • Social security and a pension for housewives.
   
   • A minimum wage, an 8-hour day, no compulsory overtime and 
the 
  right
   to paid holidays. Women, the lowest paid everywhere, who do a 
  double
   day of unwaged caring work on top of low-waged work, would 
benefit 
  most.
   
   • Protection 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Where is the: The Finest Relative located?

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
Peter wrote:
 The Buddhi /Purusha sutra does not produce GC
 experiences, far from it.

Peter - It's not the sutra nor the technique that produces the Buddhi
state - the use of a technique provides only the opportunity for
experiencing GC. Purusha is already existing - the Light needs no
other light to illuminate it. 

 It facilitates the cessation of the identification of 
 mind as pure consciousness and vice versa. 

Samadhi: A non-meditative meditative mental equipose.

Samadhi: 1. Sanskrit (Saúmaúdhi) n. Jap., sanmai or zanmai 2.
Nirvana,
Parinirvana 3. from the root word 'Sam', to establish, make firm. 4. A
conscious experience that lies beyond waking, dreaming, and deep
sleep. 5. A non-meditative meditative mental equipose.

 It' s a Shiva sutra that moves mind to discriminate, 
 not manifest experience, a task for a Vishnu sutra.

There is ample evidence to support the contention that this practice
was developed during the 7-8th century, at the beginning of the Gupta
era, by the Siddha alchemists of Bengal, also sometimes referred to as
the 84 Mahasiddhas or the Nath Siddhas.

Title of interest: 

'The Alchemical Body'
Siddha Tradtions in Medieval India
By David Gordon White
University of Chicago Press, 1996




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[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   --- sparaig wrote:

do you know that ANY of the stories in the sexy sadie file 
is true? Have you spoken with any of the authors personally?
   
   Oh no, I've not talked to any authors. And of course I cannot 
   *know* if any of the stories are true. But so many people's 
   stories jibe with one another's that the whole seventies sex 
   scenario strikes me as extremely plausible.
   
   I've simply had a shift in what I'm willing to believe.
   
- Patrick Gillam
  
  Shift in beliefs can
  Trigger eathquake of wisdom.
  Or be monkey mind.
 
 The sun makes all clear
 But I see as in moonlight
 And sleep in shadows


Oh no!
Not another goddamn poet
On FFL...




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[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev and Sri Vidya

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
According to the definition proposed by Maharishi, Guru Dev was a TMer
because he was able to transcend the relative field and make contact
with the Absolute on a regular basis. There are numerous photographic
images of Guru Dev sitting in meditative repose and numerous disciples
have attested to his habit of seeking solitary surroundings so that he
could meditate.

According to his official biography, Guru Dev was a chela of Swami
Krishnanda Saraswati, a Sannyasin of the Shankaracharya Dasanami, of
Sringeri. This puts both Guru Dev and his teacher in the Adwaita
Sampradya and squarely in the path of Yoga, which is another term name
for TM. There is some evidence that Guru Dev used a Shri Yantra for
devotional purposes or as a personal devata - yet, Adwaita Sannyasins
are not supposed to be playing around with fire and worshipping
mundane physical constructs such as poles or magic circles.

However, the Sri Vidya is described as a mnemonic device used for
meditation practice. Said device derives from the Buddhist tantric
practices which utilize mantra, yantra, and dharani. The Shri Yantra
is a graphical iconic representation of the bija-mantra of the
Manatrayana, the Tantric path of the Siddhas. There is ample evidence
to support the contention that this practice was developed during the
7-8th century, at the beginning of the Gupta era, by the medieval
alchemists of Bengal, also sometimes referred to as the 84 Mahasiddhas
or the Nath Siddhas.

In fact, any device can be used for meditation, a word, a diagram -
even the word mic or one, however, it has been found through
experience over many years that certain sounds are more beneficial
than others. At any rate, the use of the Sri Yantra is a purely mental
technique - it's been termed a visualization exercise by Swami
Ageananda Bharati, a tantric initiate of some repute.

So, from the above observations, it is probable that Guru Dev
meditated on bija-mantras contained within the Sri Yantra, a diagram
or mnemonic device for transcending. 

On the other hand, a certain individual with claims to insider status
by benefit of his Spiritual Master, has made the claim that the Guru
Dev was a Bhakti Saint who was fond of imitating the transcendental
pastimes of Srimati Radharani and the Lord Krishna. 





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[FairfieldLife] WORSHIP OF BEAUTIFUL WOMEN IS HUNGER FOR MOTHERGOD Part IV

2005-09-05 Thread Rasa Von Werder
WORSHIP OF BEAUTIFUL WOMEN IS HUNGER FOR MOTHERGOD  Part IV

Rasa Von Werder
www.WomanThouArtGod.com

'Why Did Men Separate Us Into Madonnas and Whores?'

How did it come about, the creation of women into two kinds of women?
 Today it is so prevalent (although Matriarchy is coming, old stuff is
still here) that people more or less assume that the hooker on Cherry
Street is one kind of woman morally speaking, while the Lady of the
Manor is a Lady whether or not she practices virtue.  The hooker on
Cherry St. may be a saint and Lady Jane a demon, but society does not
see it that way.  This demarcation was created~for what?  For the
convenience of men.  Huh?  What convenience?  We have forgotten where
this came from, but getting back to the root of thing will help us
eradicate it.

Once upon a time, long, long ago, there were no rules against sex. 
You don't need sex morality rules(except for serious
trangressions...we are talking normal sex here) in a Matriarchy.  Huh?
 What were they, a bunch of swingers? (heh, heh, heh, the regular
snickers in Patriarchy, always laughing about the thing they
repressI can hear the canned laughter in the sitcomes now.)

In a Matriarchy NOBODY CARED NOR NEEDED TO KNOW WHO THE FATHER WAS. 
In other words, all power lay in the hands of women.  Women got
pregnant and were the parent.  A male might or might not be
acknowledged as the Dad.  Because property rights were in the hands of
women, this property was handed down to daughters.  Women made the
rules - created the laws and the schedules.  Men more or less obeyed,
and everything went smoothly.

It was when men took over that they NEEDED to create sex rules in
order to determine PATERNITY OF THE CHILDREN.  The rules were created
not to stop men from doing sex with anyone and everyone - but to
prevent women from doing sex with anyone and everyone.  That way hubby
knows that Jr. who he's feeding with his hard-earned money and leaving
the house to, is his Jr., and not the guy's down the street.

An elaborate set of rules got put into place, with much force,
threats, violence and brainwashing; women were beaten and hypnotized
into submission.  Call it religious, social, cultural norms or
whatever.  It was all created and with great effort perpetrated by
males and women who in time, supported them.  Just look at the
faithful of Protestant and Catholic Churches, for example.  Here you
have women preachers, on the television pulpit, otherwise intelligent
women like Joyce Meyer, saying,

'Woman must submit to the man.'

Now most of the women who will read this article know that this is old
hat, outdated, dumber than dumb, and yet many women in power, like
Joyce Meyer, are still proclaiming this lie.  (And these women are
looked up to by truth-hungry men and women who want to do right!)  It
is a dirty shame!

It is now time that the Wiccans step forward!  I can't wait till the
day when we have some sort of freedom of speech for women.  I imagine
a network.. (half of all television, it seems to me, is propoganda
for males - be it Trinity, EWTN, the Sports channel for their dumb
sports, the hunting channel for their evil carnage, the movie channels
for their male-hero worship crap, and a lot of other nonsense made to
sell businesses owned by males).I imagine a network created for
Women's Spirituality.  There would be all the Goddess-worshipping
women with their own shows, preaching their gospel, whatever it is. 
There would be Mary Ellen (of [EMAIL PROTECTED])  with her
show, about her clans and sharing love and wisdom by the campfires. 
Another show would be a Matriarchal yogi, another one I would run
about Our Holy Mother being an Incarnation of God. Protestant and
Catholic Women who believe in total equal rights for women in religion
could have their shows.  In between we run entertainment that
glorifies the lives of women:  Women saints, appearances of the Virgin
Mary, women of history, women of today, women getting into politics
and government and so forth.  We are talking real freedom and speech
and not a network to support sappy 'women's interest' shmaltz - which
basically comes down to decorating houses, cleaning houses, buying
appliances, taking care of small children, romances, supporting hubby
and all the traditional things women are supposed to be limited to. 
We are not limited!

What is a woman?  What is a Mother?  She is the designated ruler of
the planet.  The head of the household, the family, the Church, the
government and the world.  She needs to take charge, NOW!

But this madonna-whore myth is one of the basic Communist-style lies
men have put upon the human race.  And because of it, a lot of
complicated behavior happens.  Now why does it work for men?

He keeps woman in control by fear and by reprisals.  The fear is loss
of reputation, loss of acceptance from others, ostracism and hatred
from her fellow humans.  And so, women who deviate from the 'morality'
as taught by men - which women must follow 

[FairfieldLife] Re: To set The Beatles' TM record straight

2005-09-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I agree, but can't even think of half a dozen.
 
 The alt.m.t. political pundits: Judy, Barry1, Barry2, Shemp, and 
Lawson.
 
 Invasion of the political pundits - we will assimilate you -
 resistance is futile.

Things rarely work out as expected.

lurk





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Human Storm'/Refugees/Stream Across U.S.'

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- Robert Gimbel wrote:
  
   Many survivors of this countries worst catastrophe in ages;

   Are becoming restless, in Huston, TX.
  
 Had you spelled out Texas, Rob, it would have been too obvious.  
  As it is, very clever. 
  
   - Patrick Gillam
 
 Huston is New York style for Houston.  (learned that earlier this 
 summer on a visit)

Never heard Huston, but there's a Houston Street
in New York City, pronounced HOW-ston.






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[FairfieldLife] Inside a Hollow Tope Void

2005-09-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
The Patanjali Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge at Fairfield, Iowa, USA,
home of the TM-Sidhi program, is a hollow tope void. In other words,
the Golden Dome at Fairfield, (not to be confused with the Maharishi
Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge at Radience, Texas, home of the
Superadiance program), is a half-spherical dodecahedron, surmounted by
a kalasa, supported by the amalaka in which the akasha, symbolizing
dimensionless space, is supported by the linga, surmounting the
eight-angled cintamani vajra, an 8-sided prototypic harmika with a
rail surrounding the hypaethral pavilion constituting a veritible
chaitya-garbha pradakshina with a nice fence around it!

In the nearness of that, turbulence ceases. - Maharishi Patanjali

That is to say, the Golden Dome at Fairfield, on the campus of the
Maharishi International University (MUM), is sort of like a oriental
dagoba that I once visited in Nepal, the like of which is suggested by
a morthological similarity to the great Svyanbhunatha Stupa at Patan
in the Katmandu Valley. And why?

The ancient stupa at Sanchi shows a parasol emerging from the center
of the space enclosed by the harmika fence. This and the domed
architecture of the mound is repeated with variation in countless
thousands of stupas and topes throughout the ages in all countries
from the Swat valley all the way to Java and to Sri Lanka. 

The parasol, atop the stupa at Sanhci, at Sarnath and at Taxila,
(circa 200 B.C.) the earliest evidence of edifice architecture in
India, is the canopy of heaven, its pole being the cosmic axis mundi
and the dome's surface is the earth. As a cosmic egg image it is
preeminent among the aniconic images of the Buddha. 

In Buddhist mythology the bodhi tree, symbol of MUM, is the original
parasol duplicated in the dome and the kalasa on top - the point where
the pole of the parasol pierces the canopy corresponds precisely to
the point defined by the harmika, where the pole emerges from the
summit of the stupa garbha. This is pure Buddhist vastu, except that
inside the Golden Dome, at both Fairfied and at Radience, is found
hollowness, so that the yogic flyers can have room to enjoy flying,
unobstructed. This, you have got to admit, is ingenious - a hollow
stupa!

Apparently the south door to the Golden Dome at Fairfield is closed
and the practicing siddhas are routed around the building to the north
entrance. This, in itself, constitutes a half-pradakshina, except
that, unwittingly, the half-pint circumambulation is
counter-clockwise, constituting a shamanistic Tibetan Bon practice,
and the abject negation of Chos, as taught in the land of Po by Guru
Shenrab. This disjunctive and unbalanced approach, needless to say, is
one of the major problems with the MUM Administration. 

The obvious solution, short of using mirrors and deflectors, and
possibly the only solution, is to move the entire university, lock
stock and barrel down to Austin, and leave the buildings all behind,
for some other fanatical cult group. Then, we can build an entire
campus from scratch using pure Buddhist vastu principles! It's just
obvious.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Murder by Negligence?...'

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Murder by negligence.
 All confirmed via the life TV feed at: http://www.wdsu.com. 
Blatently 
 lacking: aid activity. One helicopter and Bush on his second visit. 
 Devestation.
 I watched for about an hour some 12 hours ago and all Duane states 
 became horrible truth for me on live TV.

I have *never* seen the media so energized as it
is by this catastrophe, never seen so many
furiously, righteously angry journalists, both
print and TV.  Even CNN's Wolf Blitzer is pissed
(although with him it's hard to tell).

It's quite extraordinary.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Human Storm'/Refugees/Stream Across U.S.'

2005-09-05 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Huston is New York style for Houston.  (learned that earlier this 
  summer on a visit)
 
 Never heard Huston, but there's a Houston Street
 in New York City, pronounced HOW-ston.

Maybe that was it.  Whatever it was, it wasn't readily identifiable 
as Houston Street.  I also learned Soho stands for South of 
Houston (Street).  Tribeca, stands for Tri-angle Be-low Ca-nal 
(Street)

lurk




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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Where is the: The Finest Relative located?

2005-09-05 Thread Robert Gimbel
I found a link for the book which you mentioned; thanks:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/102-2396249-
3587311


-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Peter wrote:
  The Buddhi /Purusha sutra does not produce GC
  experiences, far from it.
 
 Peter - It's not the sutra nor the technique that produces the 
Buddhi
 state - the use of a technique provides only the opportunity for
 experiencing GC. Purusha is already existing - the Light needs no
 other light to illuminate it. 
 
  It facilitates the cessation of the identification of 
  mind as pure consciousness and vice versa. 
 
 Samadhi: A non-meditative meditative mental equipose.
 
 Samadhi: 1. Sanskrit (Saúmaúdhi) n. Jap., sanmai or zanmai 2.
 Nirvana,
 Parinirvana 3. from the root word 'Sam', to establish, make firm. 
4. A
 conscious experience that lies beyond waking, dreaming, and deep
 sleep. 5. A non-meditative meditative mental equipose.
 
  It' s a Shiva sutra that moves mind to discriminate, 
  not manifest experience, a task for a Vishnu sutra.
 
 There is ample evidence to support the contention that this 
practice
 was developed during the 7-8th century, at the beginning of the 
Gupta
 era, by the Siddha alchemists of Bengal, also sometimes referred 
to as
 the 84 Mahasiddhas or the Nath Siddhas.
 
 Title of interest: 
 
 'The Alchemical Body'
 Siddha Tradtions in Medieval India
 By David Gordon White
 University of Chicago Press, 1996





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Human Storm'/Refugees/Stream Across U.S.'

2005-09-05 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   --- Robert Gimbel wrote:
   
Many survivors of this countries worst catastrophe in ages;
 
Are becoming restless, in Huston, TX.
   
  Had you spelled out Texas, Rob, it would have been too 
obvious.  
   As it is, very clever. 
   
- Patrick Gillam
  
  Huston is New York style for Houston.  (learned that earlier 
this 
  summer on a visit)
 
 Never heard Huston, but there's a Houston Street
 in New York City, pronounced HOW-ston.


...and there's SoHo in New York which I understand means south of 
Houston Street...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Human Storm'/Refugees/Stream Across U.S.'

2005-09-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 
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  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

Huston is New York style for Houston.  (learned that earlier 
 this 
summer on a visit)
   
   Never heard Huston, but there's a Houston Street
   in New York City, pronounced HOW-ston.
  
  Maybe that was it.  Whatever it was, it wasn't readily 
identifiable 
  as Houston Street.  I also learned Soho stands for South of 
  Houston (Street).  Tribeca, stands for Tri-angle Be-low Ca-nal 
  (Street)
 
 Yup.  There's also NoHo now.
 
 These areas used to be industrial but are now
 quasi-funky residential neighborhoods, converted
 lofts and so on, quite pricey in some places.
 Lots of boutiques and restaurants and art
 galleries.

Meant to add, that's why these neighborhoods
have the cutesy names.  They weren't called that
when I was growing up.  The names were probably
created by real estate agents selling/renting
apartments and storefronts so they'd sound
fashionable.





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