[UNABLE TO SCAN] Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website
It was not possible to scan this message completely. You should not assume that it is free of viruses. Joachim Backes wrote: When opening the following website: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband, you will find on this page a small video pointing to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file. But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does not succeed. Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome. I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine Ed signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [UNABLE TO SCAN] Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website
On 01/09/2010 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: When opening the following website: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband, you will find on this page a small video pointing to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file. But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does not succeed. Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome. I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine Ed Hi Ed, having problems to play this file with mplayer: mplayer Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg. Seek failed Exiting... (End of file) Regards Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website
Joachim Backes wrote: On 01/09/2010 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: When opening the following website: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband, you will find on this page a small video pointing to http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file. But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does not succeed. Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome. I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine Ed Hi Ed, having problems to play this file with mplayer: mplayer Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg. Seek failed Strange When I used the link to save the file the file name was Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg I move the file to the file name you have and it also played fine Do you get... [egres...@f12 misty]$ file Datei\:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg: Ogg data, Theora video -- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 + Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 do you have an idea how to solve it? Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to Fedora w/ 1/2gig as well... Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On 01/08/2010 12:04 PM, Alan Cox wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 + Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 do you have an idea how to solve it? Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to Fedora w/ 1/2gig as well... Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster. That's a really i.nteresting and useful piece of advice that I haven't heard before. Thanks a lot, and this needs to be written up on a wall somewhere. Andrew. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 + Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 do you have an idea how to solve it? Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to Fedora w/ 1/2gig as well... Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Try to use Xfce or LXDE fedora live spins : http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ run them in text mode and launch the installer. -OR- transfer the disk image directly to the hard disk. i was able to run fedora Xfce live on an old p3 1ghz w/ 512mb ram. -- Athmane Madjoudj -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On Friday 08 January 2010 07:04, Alan Cox wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 + Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 do you have an idea how to solve it? Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to Fedora w/ 1/2gig as well... Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster. I've tried installing XFCE on f12 lately, and just get a lovely background and nothing else. pgpII21auy0y7.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:42:06PM +, jorge a secas wrote: we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 What is the error you get in text mode? -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org Senior Systems Architect Cyberinfrastructure Labs / Instructional Research Computing Computing Information Technology Harvard School of Engineering Applied Sciences -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
2010/1/8 jorge a secas tala...@hotmail.com: we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 do you have an idea how to solve it? I don't know what that error is, but AFAIK the minimum amount of RAM has changed to more than 256MB, so you won't be able to run the graphical mode. -c -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: help
we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 do you have an idea how to solve it? Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to Fedora w/ 1/2gig as well... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
Hi, we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 Which version of Fedora are you using and what is the video card in the machines? TTFN Paul -- Sie können mich aufreizen und wirklich heiß machen! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote: we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 do you have an idea how to solve it? Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to Fedora w/ 1/2gig as well... Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to use less memory? OP: There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs. If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different goals of the projects. If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On am embedded power pc project with 256 mb of ram, I ran fvwm, just fine. This was with nfs root and a very old matrox video card. I also compiled xdoom, madplay, and mozilla. So this can be done, you will just need to install the basic machine in text mode, the install x, and fvwm along with the apps you want. Chip. Tony Nelson wrote: On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote: we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 do you have an idea how to solve it? Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to Fedora w/ 1/2gig as well... Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to use less memory? OP: There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs. If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different goals of the projects. If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Ralph Blach rcbl...@gmail.com wrote: On am embedded power pc project with 256 mb of ram, I ran fvwm, just fine. This was with nfs root and a very old matrox video card. I also compiled xdoom, madplay, and mozilla. So this can be done, you will just need to install the basic machine in text mode, the install x, and fvwm along with the apps you want. Chip. Tony Nelson wrote: On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote: we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 12.47 do you have an idea how to solve it? Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to Fedora w/ 1/2gig as well... Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to use less memory? OP: There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs. If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different goals of the projects. If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE. Try appending nomodeset to grub. You may also need to add vga=791 or vga=ask to ensure selection of a suitable display driver. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:33:40 -0500 Mail Llists wrote: What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees the vm ? The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions via virsh dumpxml name name.xml, then you can recover the machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still boot f11, that would be the way to go. The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when it gets to the disk image part, say use existing, then browse local, then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from the iso image, use force off, then you should be able to boot from the disk image and maybe it will be back. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: the vm ? The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions via virsh dumpxml name name.xml, then you can recover the machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still boot f11, that would be the way to go. I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that .xml file stored somewhere ? I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when it gets to the disk image part, say use existing, then browse local, then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from the iso image, use force off, then you should be able to boot from the disk image and maybe it will be back. Yeh ok .. thanks for your help gene -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500 Mail Lists wrote: I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that .xml file stored somewhere ? Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows where :-). If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command that way :-). If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
On 01/03/2010 10:50 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500 Mail Lists wrote: I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that .xml file stored somewhere ? Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows where :-). Was hoping someone aside from him/her might know!! I suspect its buried in the registry somewhere. If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command that way :-). I dont have a disk image - i have rdiff-backup's. If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org. Ug. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
While I am still unable to find the original .xml files on the backup - I did find a log file in root/.virt-manager which has the xml definitions from when they were created. Then Tom's virsh define should now work if I copy the lines from log to a .xml file. Thanks for help! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
Hi Gene, 2010/1/3 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com: On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: the vm ? The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions via virsh dumpxml name name.xml, then you can recover the machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still boot f11, that would be the way to go. I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that .xml file stored somewhere ? I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
Hi Gene, On Sunday 03 January 2010 08:40 PM, Mail Lists wrote: On 01/03/2010 10:43 PM, suvayu ali wrote: Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files. Holy smoke - you're right!! I never woulda guessed it would be in /etc ... who would have thunk!!! Shouldn't it be in /var/lib or whatever? Technically speaking, all settings stuff go to /etc and the xml files would probably be considered settings for the virtual machines. I would suggest look into the virsh interactive command line to manage your virtual machines. Its way more efficient compared to the gui. To open one, try `virsh --connect qemu:///system'. You can see all the commands with `help' and more specifics about every commands with `help command'. Thank you! I found this the hard way about a week back. Hope this helps you. And Happy New Year to all. :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help - recovering virtual machine
On 01/03/2010 12:33 AM, Mail Llists wrote: I have an image file with everything I need installed on it. It was running fine in f11 (has win xp in it). I intalled f12. What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees the vm ? I should add I can run the image fine from command line (qemu-kvm) - I just dont know how to get it managed by virt-manager again like it was. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
What happens now? Not much I guess, as the list archive obfuscates email [...] that give you a feeling of accomplishment? Just trying to point out the futility of trying to avoid publishing your Fedora ID. It took me less than a minute to find it without asking any human. One might even put up a web page with your Fedora email address all over it. Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 04:35:07PM +0200, Debarshi Ray wrote: What happens now? Not much I guess, as the list archive obfuscates email [...] that give you a feeling of accomplishment? Just trying to point out the futility of trying to avoid publishing your Fedora ID. It took me less than a minute to find it without asking any human. One might even put up a web page with your Fedora email address all over it. He did not wrote about his Fedora ID, but about publishing the e-mail address not obfuscated. Also he clearly stated that he wishes that nobody publishes it obfuscated. If you just want to point out, that you can research the address, you still do not need to post it. For me it was only rude behaviour. Regards Till pgp7ZTbruD5Gq.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help: No internet connection
Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it. Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the wireless that blocs some connections. Simon On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote: On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote: May sound silly, but have you turned off your home modem or reset it lately? Sometimes that is all it takes. To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a added router, computer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your firewall configuration ? Aaron 2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it. Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the wireless that blocs some connections. Simon On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote: On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote: May sound silly, but have you turned off your home modem or reset it lately? Sometimes that is all it takes. To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a added router, computer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Help: No internet connection
Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here.. _ The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your firewall configuration ? Aaron 2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it. Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the wireless that blocs some connections. Simon On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote: On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote: May sound silly, but have you turned off your home modem or reset it lately? Sometimes that is all it takes. To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a added router, computer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
No difference with or without firewall. But I discovered something else: Here's what happens: - I start my computer and connect to the wireless: Firefox and Thunderbird can not connect to the wireless but Opera can. - I plug in the Ethernet cable. Now all connections work, with or without firewall. - I deconnect the cable and connect again through the wireless. Now both programs do connect properly. ??? Simon On 12/16/2009 01:39 PM, Ishmael Chibvuri wrote: Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here.. _ The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your firewall configuration ? Aaron 2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org mailto:simon.schneeb...@okko.org Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it. Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the wireless that blocs some connections. Simon On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote: On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote: May sound silly, but have you turned off your home modem or reset it lately? Sometimes that is all it takes. To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a added router, computer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org No difference with or without firewall. But I discovered something else: Here's what happens: - I start my computer and connect to the wireless: Firefox and Thunderbird can not connect to the wireless but Opera can. - I plug in the Ethernet cable. Now all connections work, with or without firewall. - I deconnect the cable and connect again through the wireless. Now both programs do connect properly. ??? Sounds like a DNS problem again. Aaron Simon On 12/16/2009 01:39 PM, Ishmael Chibvuri wrote: Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here.. _ The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your firewall configuration ? Aaron 2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org mailto: simon.schneeb...@okko.org Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it. Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the wireless that blocs some connections. Simon On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote: On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote: May sound silly, but have you turned off your home modem or reset it lately? Sometimes that is all it takes. To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a added router, computer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com mailto:fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On 12/16/2009 07:16 AM, Simon Schneebeli wrote: Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it. Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the wireless that blocs some connections. Simon On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote: On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote: May sound silly, but have you turned off your home modem or reset it lately? Sometimes that is all it takes. To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a added router, computer If what you say is that you can get some websites but not others ?? You may have a IPV6 problem. If you use KDE see if Konqueror has the same problem as Firefox. I have attached some instructions, follow the instructions on firefox , near bottom of page. If you have problems with Konqueror or performing a rpm -ivh http:// * follow all of the instructions. 1. Q: Networking (or DNS) seems really slow and fails often (Updated 2 January 2009) A: If Fedora 10's networking seems slow or you get frequent network connection failures (when other Fedoras or other OSes were working just fine on your machine), then you're probably hitting this bug. Here's how you can work around it: 1. Open a Terminal. 2. Become root: su - 3. Make sure that the dnsmasq program is installed (it usually is, by default, in Fedora 10): rpm -q dnsmasq If that says package dnsmasq is not installed, then you need to install dnsmasq, by running the following command: yum install dnsmasq 4. Now, you have to find out which network interface your machine is using: route -n You'll see some output that looks like this: Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 The eth0 there (the furthest bottom-right text in the output) is the name of the network interface I'm using. Yours might be eth1 or something totally different. Just remember it for the next step. 5. Now create a file called /etc/dhclient-your network interface.conf. For example, if your network interface is eth0, the file would be called /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf. You can create the file with this command (assuming your network interface is eth0): nano /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf Then make this the only line in the file: prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; And then save the file and close it (Ctrl-X then Y). If you have both a wireless and a wired network connection, you will have to do this step once for each of them. 6. Now start dnsmasq: service dnsmasq start And make sure that it will start every time your computer starts: chkconfig dnsmasq on 7. Now restart your network connection: service NetworkManager restart And now things should be as fast as normal again. You might have to restart the programs that you're running for them to pick up the changes that NetworkManager made when it restarted. 2. * IPv6 You might notice that your browsing through Firefox is a little slow on Fedora 10. This is because Firefox 3 has enabled by default IPv6 which causes Firefox to first resolve an IPv6 address and after the connection fails it switches to IPv4. To change this setting type: about:config and in Filter box type: network.dns.disableIPv6 Right click on it, select Toggle and change its value to true. Restart Firefox and you are ready! Selinux Relabeling files. setenforce 0; fixfiles -F restore; setenforce 1; reboot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Simon wrote: As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite happy. So let's give it a try: snip My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost... Simon Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller! My! I sure feel like if I'm doing something wrong: Not really. Your ifconfig output shows that your machine knows it has 2 interfaces, and it appears that both are connecting and getting IP addresses from the router (unless you have set them both static: you did not say. But wired works, so now there is just the wireless setup! [r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]# python setup.py install Using init file ('/etc/rc.d/init.d/', 'init/redhat/wicd') Using pid path wicd.pid Language support for es_CL es_NI zh_TW no sr nl el es_ES ml uk vi he fi nl_NL ca pt eu eo ka de_DE fr it ko zh_HK lv es bg gl ru_RU fa sk es_VE de ro da pt_BR fr_CA et kk sl es_AR cs lt ja ru sv hu te ar_EG zh_CN id tr es_MX pl it_IT es_GT running install error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) You are not *doing* anything wrong, but something *IS* wrong. Check that you have a /usr/lib/python2.6 folder. It should exist, as should the config subfolder. Does on my F12 install. If it does not, then 'yum install python python-devel' And re-try the wicd install. The other route is to go back to NetworkManager. It is already installed and should work (in its inimitable obscure fashion). Since you do not have wicd in the way, then: chkconfig wpa_supplicant on chkconfig NetworkManager on Disconnect the wired connection and re-boot. Then 'system-config-network' and check that the wireless card is properly defined. NM should find the wlan0 interface, and connect. As noted before, this works best if encryption is turned off at this stage. (I cannot remember if network services are supposed to on, or off. But NetworkManager deals with that) You are almost there! Geoff -- Please let me know if anything I say offends you. I may wish to offend you again in the future. Tux says: Be regular. Eat cron flakes. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Hi Simon; On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 23:27 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote: On 12/14/2009 11:02 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: Simon wrote: I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read. My knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited. However, in a response to my post Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !, Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes the passing remark I didn't have video or a network connection at first boot. Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0. I fixed that, ran yum update and pretty much everything is golden. He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it. But could your problem be the same as his Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0. Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little. -- Regards Bill Fedora 12, Gnome 2.28 Evo.2.28, Emacs 23.1.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 09:09:32PM +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote: On 12/14/2009 08:52 PM, Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote: On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite happy. So let's give it a try: I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/ It tells me the following: python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686 (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686) So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/ Test Transaction Errors: file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 is not part of a Fedora repo, browsing the net indicates that this is from opensuse? You should uninstall urwid, point yum to ATrpms and just yum install wicd (if you want to use wicd). Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms) until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories. Actually this is about mixing Fedora and opensuse, there third party repo usage just uncovered this. My experience with wicd on Ubuntu was actually really good, so if there is an easy way to do it on my computer and if furthermore this could help solve my problem, I'd be more than willing to give it a try. Simon -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net pgpnYnBVljPIR.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On 12/15/2009 09:23 AM, William Case wrote: I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read. My knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited. However, in a response to my post Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !, Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes the passing remark I didn't have video or a network connection at first boot. Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0. I fixed that, ran yum update and pretty much everything is golden. He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it. But could your problem be the same as his Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0. Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little. Well, one way would be to run System -- Preferences -- Network Connections and edit the interface. There are drop-down menus under both IPv4 and IPv6 to enable DHCP. If you have the network applet, you can also right click on it, and pick Edit Connections. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On 11/12/2009 23:27, Simon Schneebeli wrote: Sam Varshavchik wrote: Simon Schneebeli writes: Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection with my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired connection. Ping works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme manage to establish a connection. Define ping works. If I type at the command line ping google.com it gets an answer... OK. If you're getting a positive response from that command then your basic network connection, DNS and routing must all be working. There isn't much more to go wrong. What do you get if you type: wget www.google.com into a shell? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On 12/15/2009 04:43 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 12/15/2009 09:23 AM, William Case wrote: I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read. My knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited. However, in a response to my post Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !, Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes the passing remark I didn't have video or a network connection at first boot. Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0. I fixed that, ran yum update and pretty much everything is golden. He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it. But could your problem be the same as his Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0. Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little. Well, one way would be to run System -- Preferences -- Network Connections and edit the interface. There are drop-down menus under both IPv4 and IPv6 to enable DHCP. If you have the network applet, you can also right click on it, and pick Edit Connections. Mikkel I've actually checked that. It's properly set and always was. The problem must be elsewhere. Astonishingly I have the same problem when I start from the live CD, and on the other hand I didn't have this problem when connecting to the wireless at my brothers, nor on Starbucks today. That's why my guess is that it must be somewhere between my computer and the wireless modem. I just didn't had time to play around with the modem configuration. That's the next step in my plan. I just need to get some sleep from time to time ;-) Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On 12/15/2009 03:32 PM, Simon Schneebeli wrote: I've actually checked that. It's properly set and always was. The problem must be elsewhere. Astonishingly I have the same problem when I start from the live CD, and on the other hand I didn't have this problem when connecting to the wireless at my brothers, nor on Starbucks today. That's why my guess is that it must be somewhere between my computer and the wireless modem. I just didn't had time to play around with the modem configuration. That's the next step in my plan. I just need to get some sleep from time to time ;-) Simon This sounds more like a problem in your wireless settings. What type of wireless security are you using on your wireless modem? It sounds like your brother has an open system. Starbucks would also have an open system. It may require something more after you can access the Internet, but connecting to the wireless access point does not require your system to have a wireless key before hand. One other thing that can bite you when using WEP is if your system will not give an IP address until you establish an encrypted connection. I have not seen the option in Network Manager for the iwconfig key restricted parameter. (Though you can add it.) Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
May sound silly, but have you turned off your home modem or reset it lately? Sometimes that is all it takes. -- Robert Collard Springfield, IL Fedora 12 x86_64 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote: May sound silly, but have you turned off your home modem or reset it lately? Sometimes that is all it takes. To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a added router, computer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: parsecvs repo? [Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
Jim Meyering j...@meyering.net writes: Does anyone know of a public and *maintained* repository for parsecvs? I've looked numerous times (as recently as a few weeks ago), and tried to contact Keith Packard, hoping he would still be maintaining it, but have had no luck. I've recently pushed a few changes to a fork of the tree @ repo.or.cz. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key fingerprint = D4E8 DBE3 3813 BB5D FA84 5EC7 45C6 250E 6F00 984E And now for something completely different. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help: No internet connection
Quoting Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:16 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues: - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf. - SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.full - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home. - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon Nope... Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported: server 192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc) which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem. I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this morning, at my brother's place, everything went well. I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS numbers, just to be sure that it's not that. Thanks anyway for your help. Simon Your DNS server is 192.168.1.1? Did you say you were using a DSL router? Is the IP address of your DSL router, 192.168.1.1? You also say everything works fine at your brother's place. Could your DSL router be doing something, like blocking certain traffic? Can you check your DSL router configuration, please? I just tried with the live CD where I had the same problem. Furthermore I got the right DNS which is 195.186.1.111 and 195.186.4.111. And yes, I'm using a wireless DSL router (Motorola). What could be the configuration problem with the DSL router? I never change anything there and used it without any difficulties previously on Ubuntu. But in the same time it somehow seams obvious that it has to be linked to that since at my brother's place (with another service provider) everything worked fine. Simon (getting desperate). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. RPM: Couldn't resolve host To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some seconds like the server doesn't answer... What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the connection is offline. Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s). Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not over that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely possibility given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. Maybe he has NO security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON. Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router. At a console enter: 'service NetWorkManager stop' 'service wpa_supplicant stop' 'service ip6tables stop' With a WIRED connection ONLY: 'service iptables restart' 'service network restart' This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see. Then: 'ifconfig eth0' should show, in the second line something like: inet addr:192.168.1.99 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again. If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox) If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this case). If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to a DHCP IP scheme). And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd (at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP request from the laptop etc. Geoff -- Please let me know if anything I say offends you. I may wish to offend you again in the future. Tux says: Be regular. Eat cron flakes. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Monday 14 December 2009 16:58:36 R. G. Newbury wrote: At a console enter: 'service NetWorkManager stop' I guess that should read 'service NetworkManager stop'. Note the small w compared to the capital W. These things are case-sensitive, and can lead to problems if one is not careful. :-) HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 18:01 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday 14 December 2009 16:58:36 R. G. Newbury wrote: At a console enter: 'service NetWorkManager stop' I guess that should read 'service NetworkManager stop'. Note the small w compared to the capital W. These things are case-sensitive, and can lead to problems if one is not careful. :-) rant I hate this kind of nonsense. Either the basic utilities (including yum, rpm, repoquery etc.) should be case-insensitive (which wouldn't be Unixy enough for some people) or the packages should use only lower-case names. Lower case is good enough for the frakking *kernel* ferchrissake. What makes NM so special? /rant poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 11:58 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. RPM: Couldn't resolve host To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some seconds like the server doesn't answer... What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the connection is offline. Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s). Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not over that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely possibility given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. Maybe he has NO security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON. Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router. At a console enter: 'service NetWorkManager stop' 'service wpa_supplicant stop' 'service ip6tables stop' With a WIRED connection ONLY: 'service iptables restart' 'service network restart' This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see. Then: 'ifconfig eth0' should show, in the second line something like: inet addr:192.168.1.99 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again. If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox) If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this case). If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to a DHCP IP scheme). And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd (at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP request from the laptop etc. Geoff Also, please do netstat -rn to see your routing table on your PC. You indicated you could ping an Internet address, when you type ping www.xxx.yyy.zzz, which led me to believe you have a default route pointing to your router, but I would check. You may have other routes in your routing table, which explicitly route certain IP address ranges to the wrong gateway IP address. netstat -rn should give us the needed routing table information. -Rick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. RPM: Couldn't resolve host To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some seconds like the server doesn't answer... What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the connection is offline. Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s). Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not over that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely possibility given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. Maybe he has NO security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON. Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router. At a console enter: 'service NetWorkManager stop' 'service wpa_supplicant stop' 'service ip6tables stop' With a WIRED connection ONLY: 'service iptables restart' 'service network restart' This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see. Then: 'ifconfig eth0' should show, in the second line something like: inet addr:192.168.1.99 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again. If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox) If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this case). If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to a DHCP IP scheme). And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd (at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP request from the laptop etc. Geoff Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't work. Here's what I get with ifconfig. [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7 inet addr:192.168.1.33 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB) TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB) Memory:fe20-fe22 And here is what I get with netstat -rn: [r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite happy. So let's give it a try: I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/ It tells me the following: python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686 (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686) So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/ Test Transaction Errors: file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. RPM: Couldn't resolve host To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some seconds like the server doesn't answer... What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the connection is offline. Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s). Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not over that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely possibility given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. Maybe he has NO security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON. Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router. At a console enter: 'service NetWorkManager stop' 'service wpa_supplicant stop' 'service ip6tables stop' With a WIRED connection ONLY: 'service iptables restart' 'service network restart' This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see. Then: 'ifconfig eth0' should show, in the second line something like: inet addr:192.168.1.99 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again. If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox) If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this case). If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to a DHCP IP scheme). And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd (at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP request from the laptop etc. Geoff Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't work. Here's what I get with ifconfig. [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7 inet addr:192.168.1.33 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB) TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB) Memory:fe20-fe22 And here is what I get with netstat -rn: [r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0 This might be the problem. You have two networks at 192.168.1.0 Please stop one of the network cards to verify. //HW 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite happy. So let's give it a try: I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/ It tells me the following: python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686 (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686) So I get python-urwid from
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote: On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite happy. So let's give it a try: I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/ It tells me the following: python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686 (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686) So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/ Test Transaction Errors: file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.py from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.pyc from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.py from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.pyc from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/curses_display.py from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file... My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost... Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms) until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Here's what I get with ifconfig. [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7 inet addr:192.168.1.33 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB) TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB) Memory:fe20-fe22 And here is what I get with netstat -rn: [r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0 This might be the problem. You have two networks at 192.168.1.0 Please stop one of the network cards to verify. //HW 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 Um. I work with a labtop computer, so I do have only one network card. ?? Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On 12/14/2009 08:52 PM, Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote: On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite happy. So let's give it a try: I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/ It tells me the following: python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686 (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686) So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/ Test Transaction Errors: file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.py from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.pyc from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.py from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.pyc from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/curses_display.py from install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 file... My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost... Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms) until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories. Craig My experience with wicd on Ubuntu was actually really good, so if there is an easy way to do it on my computer and if furthermore this could help solve my problem, I'd be more than willing to give it a try. Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Here's what I get with ifconfig. [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7 inet addr:192.168.1.33 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB) TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB) Memory:fe20-fe22 And here is what I get with netstat -rn: [r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0 This might be the problem. You have two networks at 192.168.1.0 Please stop one of the network cards to verify. //HW 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 Um. I work with a labtop computer, so I do have only one network card. ?? According to the netstat -rn command you have wireless (wlan0) and LAN (eth0), both using the same network 192.168.1.0. Stop one of the cards via NetworkManager and see if Firefox starts to work.. //HW Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Simon wrote: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't work. I presume you actually meant the *wireless connection stll doesn't work. Here's what I get with ifconfig. [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7 inet addr:192.168.1.33 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB) TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB) Memory:fe20-fe22 We really need the full output of ifconfig. What does 'ifconfig wlan0' give? And here is what I get with netstat -rn: [r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 *This looks fine!* ifconfig should show Up addresses for BOTH interfaces. If it does not, then we have one sort of problem. If it does, but you cannot connect wirelessly, then it means another sort of problem, probably related to security or encryption. As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite happy. So let's give it a try: snip My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost... Simon Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from wicd.sourceforge.net, and make make install. That avoids the sort of conflicts you got. Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure the wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 'chkconfig wicd on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop icon for wicd-client, and configure the wireless card there too. It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then add MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last. Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller! Geoff -- Please let me know if anything I say offends you. I may wish to offend you again in the future. Tux says: Be regular. Eat cron flakes. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On 12/14/2009 11:02 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote: Simon wrote: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't work. I presume you actually meant the *wireless connection stll doesn't work. Here's what I get with ifconfig. [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0 eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7 inet addr:192.168.1.33 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB) TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB) Memory:fe20-fe22 We really need the full output of ifconfig. What does 'ifconfig wlan0' give? [si...@sangam ~]$ ifconfig wlan0 wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:E8:82:76:33 inet addr:192.168.1.34 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::213:e8ff:fe82:7633/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:6453 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:108 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:429676 (419.6 KiB) TX bytes:13316 (13.0 KiB) [si...@sangam ~]$ And here is what I get with netstat -rn: [r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 *This looks fine!* ifconfig should show Up addresses for BOTH interfaces. If it does not, then we have one sort of problem. If it does, but you cannot connect wirelessly, then it means another sort of problem, probably related to security or encryption. As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite happy. So let's give it a try: snip My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost... Simon Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from wicd.sourceforge.net, and make make install. That avoids the sort of conflicts you got. Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure the wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 'chkconfig wicd on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop icon for wicd-client, and configure the wireless card there too. It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then add MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last. Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller! Geoff -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite happy. So let's give it a try: snip My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost... Simon Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from wicd.sourceforge.net, and make make install. That avoids the sort of conflicts you got. Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure the wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 'chkconfig wicd on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop icon for wicd-client, and configure the wireless card there too. It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then add MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last. Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller! Geoff My! I sure feel like if I'm doing something wrong: [r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]# python setup.py install Using init file ('/etc/rc.d/init.d/', 'init/redhat/wicd') Using pid path wicd.pid Language support for es_CL es_NI zh_TW no sr nl el es_ES ml uk vi he fi nl_NL ca pt eu eo ka de_DE fr it ko zh_HK lv es bg gl ru_RU fa sk es_VE de ro da pt_BR fr_CA et kk sl es_AR cs lt ja ru sv hu te ar_EG zh_CN id tr es_MX pl it_IT es_GT running install error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) [r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]# -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/14 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org: /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile [...@samlap ~]$ sudo yum provides /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile python-devel-2.6.2-2.fc12.i686 : The libraries and header files needed for : Python development. Repo: fedora Matched from: Filename: /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile You'll need to install this package first ^ -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
2009/12/12 Debarshi Ray debarshi@gmail.com: And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about it. As for me, I don't mind publishing my real email address but I would prefer not to have my fedoraproject.org alias published where the spammers can find it. I don't particularly like having forwarding aliases created for me, but if you have to give me one then please don't publish it. Here you go: rombobe...@fedoraproject.org rombobe...@fedoraproject.org rombobe...@fedoraproject.org rombobe...@fedoraproject.org rombobe...@fedoraproject.org Now what? Cheers, Debarshi I think that is unnecessarily untagonistic. This is a non-issue. Both my fpo and non-fpo are published regularly in commits and whatnot and I receive about 1 spam per week. But then I have gmail. :) -- Christopher Brown -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
Christopher Brown wrote: This is a non-issue. It may be a non-issue to you but not to Seth Vidal obviously. Both my fpo and non-fpo are published regularly in commits and whatnot and I receive about 1 spam per week. But then I have gmail. :) Well I have received zero spams since April when I flipped the switch to enforcing mode (except when the spam blocker crashed; there seems to be a race condition that I haven't tracked down yet.) Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 23:48 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: ... but that announcement was for 11:00 UTC 12/12/2009 - which is still well before your message saying it started in 20 minutes (which You're quite right. I was reading 11:00 as pm (it was late :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Hello all, My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down. Meanwhile I made some progress: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. Now, back home, my problem is the following: - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the server) - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping. I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome. Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/11 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org Hello all, After having used Ubuntu since almost more than three years, I decided to give Fedora a try. The installation went perfectly fine. Everything was perfectly recognised. Now I face one big problem: I can't manage to connect to the internet. Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection with my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired connection. Ping works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme manage to establish a connection. Any idea what the problem may be? I guess you need additional information. Which one exactly? To be more precise: It is a completly fresh install of Fedora 12 on a Thinkpad T61. I didn't change anything in the network configuration except that I put the password for my wireless connection. I have this same problem quite often but am not with my Fedora machine so cannot give precise instructions. Try left or right clicking on the icon on the top right of the screen and look at the options. I remember having to fill in my MAC address into a field as a new connection. Best of luck, Aaron -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Hello all, My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down. Meanwhile I made some progress: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. Now, back home, my problem is the following: - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the server) What is your proxy settings in FF? (Edit-Preferences-Advanced-Network-Settings-Configure proxies to access the Internet //HW - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping. I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome. Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com: On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Hello all, My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down. Meanwhile I made some progress: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. Now, back home, my problem is the following: - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the server) What is your proxy settings in FF? (Edit-Preferences-Advanced-Network-Settings-Configure proxies to access the Internet //HW Already checked that. No proxi in use (never did). An additional information: The message Server not found pops up immediately. I have the impression that it blocks somewhere on my computer or at the modem... Any idea? Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Sunday 13 December 2009 12:35 PM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Now, back home, my problem is the following: - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the server) - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping. Could it be that IPV6 thing? I think recently another user had a similar problem with firefox, and it turned out to be IPV6 related. It would be worth a try to check that. Just a thought. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Hello all, My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down. Meanwhile I made some progress: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. Now, back home, my problem is the following: - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the server) - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping. It would be nice to have an expanded version of DoES NOT WORK What happens when you try Firrefox, for example? I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome. Simon -- === It seems like the less a statesman amounts to, the more he loves the flag. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Quoting Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Hello all, My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down. Meanwhile I made some progress: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. Now, back home, my problem is the following: - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the server) - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping. It would be nice to have an expanded version of DoES NOT WORK What happens when you try Firrefox, for example? Firefox: I immediately get the message Server not found, Firefox can't find the server at [webpage]. Thunderbird: failed to connect to server [name of server] Evolution: Error while fetching mail. RPM: Couldn't resolve host To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some seconds like the server doesn't answer... Simon I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome. Simon -- === It seems like the less a statesman amounts to, the more he loves the flag. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:00 PM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Quoting Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Hello all, My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down. Meanwhile I made some progress: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. Now, back home, my problem is the following: - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the server) - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping. It would be nice to have an expanded version of DoES NOT WORK What happens when you try Firrefox, for example? Firefox: I immediately get the message Server not found, Firefox can't find the server at [webpage]. Thunderbird: failed to connect to server [name of server] Evolution: Error while fetching mail. RPM: Couldn't resolve host What is the respons if you try: nslookup download.fedoraproject.org //HW To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some seconds like the server doesn't answer... Simon I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome. Simon -- === It seems like the less a statesman amounts to, the more he loves the flag. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/13 simon.schneeb...@okko.org: Quoting Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Hello all, My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down. Meanwhile I made some progress: At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed and install the latest updates. Now, back home, my problem is the following: - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the server) - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping. It would be nice to have an expanded version of DoES NOT WORK What happens when you try Firrefox, for example? Firefox: I immediately get the message Server not found, Firefox can't find the server at [webpage]. Thunderbird: failed to connect to server [name of server] Evolution: Error while fetching mail. RPM: Couldn't resolve host To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some seconds like the server doesn't answer... What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the connection is offline. Do you have a NetworkManager icon in your systray? Does it show your network connection? How are you setting up your connection? What's different between your network when at your Brother's house? More info please... -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Q What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the connection is offline. Do you have a NetworkManager icon in your systray? Does it show your network connection? How are you setting up your connection? What's different between your network when at your Brother's house? More info please... As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these e-mails) as does Skype. As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers place: It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any details. To mention that my internet connection worked perfectly well under Ubuntu (that is before I installed Fedora). Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/13 simon.schneeb...@okko.org: Q What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the connection is offline. Do you have a NetworkManager icon in your systray? Does it show your network connection? How are you setting up your connection? What's different between your network when at your Brother's house? More info please... As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these e-mails) as does Skype. I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from NetworkManager. As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers place: It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any details. What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected? Wireless, Wired etc. I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before we can help ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these e-mails) as does Skype. I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from NetworkManager. As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers place: It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any details. What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected? Wireless, Wired etc. Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can. - Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both. - I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption - No proxi, DHCP Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following: [si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org Server:192.168.1.1 Address:192.168.1.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: download.fedoraproject.orgcanonical name = wildcard.fedoraproject.org. Name:wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 66.35.62.166 Name:wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 80.239.156.215 Name:wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 152.46.7.222 And if I directly type firefox 66.35.62.166, I get to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So he means that this might be a problem with DNS... Simon I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before we can help ;o) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:07 AM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: What's that magic trick? I get to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin and can surf around there without a problem. Magic? It's seams to be an DNS issue. FF fails to lookup the IP-number. During the installation of Fedora, did you got any errors? //HW I'm not aware of any errors during the installation. However, in SELinux Troubleshooter, I have this error message that might be linked to this problem: Summary: SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.full. Detailed Description: [find has a permissive type (prelink_cron_system_t). This access was not denied.] SELinux denied access requested by find. /var/lib/misc/prelink.full may be a mislabeled. /var/lib/misc/prelink.full default SELinux type is prelink_var_lib_t, but its current type is cron_var_lib_t. Changing this file back to the default type, may fix your problem. File contexts can be assigned to a file in the following ways. * Files created in a directory receive the file context of the parent directory by default. * The SELinux policy might override the default label inherited from the parent directory by specifying a process running in context A which creates a file in a directory labeled B will instead create the file with label C. An example of this would be the dhcp client running with the dhclient_t type and creating a file in the directory /etc. This file would normally receive the etc_t type due to parental inheritance but instead the file is labeled with the net_conf_t type because the SELinux policy specifies this. * Users can change the file context on a file using tools such as chcon, or restorecon. This file could have been mislabeled either by user error, or if an normally confined application was run under the wrong domain. However, this might also indicate a bug in SELinux because the file should not have been labeled with this type. If you believe this is a bug, please file a bug report against this package. Allowing Access: You can restore the default system context to this file by executing the restorecon command. restorecon '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full', if this file is a directory, you can recursively restore using restorecon -R '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full'. Fix Command: /sbin/restorecon '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full' Additional Information: Source Context system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c 1023 Target Context system_u:object_r:cron_var_lib_t:s0 Target Objects /var/lib/misc/prelink.full [ file ] Source find Source Path /bin/find Port Unknown Host sangam Source RPM Packages findutils-4.4.2-4.fc12 Target RPM Packages prelink-0.4.2-4.fc12 Policy RPM selinux-policy-3.6.32-55.fc12 Selinux Enabled True Policy Type targeted Enforcing Mode Enforcing Plugin Name restorecon Host Name sangam Platform Linux sangam 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed Dec 9 11:00:30 EST 2009 i686 i686 Alert Count 1 First Seen Sun 13 Dec 2009 01:25:21 PM CET Last Seen Sun 13 Dec 2009 01:25:21 PM CET Local ID 3eb8c967-bfe5-483b-89c7-9773eacbb4cf Line Numbers Raw Audit Messages node=sangam type=AVC msg=audit(1260707121.819:25385): avc: denied { getattr } for pid=11599 comm=find path=/var/lib/misc/prelink.full dev=dm-0 ino=2097510 scontext=system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tcontext=system_u:object_r:cron_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=file node=sangam type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1260707121.819:25385): arch=4003 syscall=300 success=yes exit=0 a0=ff9c a1=96c3704 a2=96c36a4 a3=100 items=0 ppid=11598 pid=11599 auid=0 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4 comm=find exe=/bin/find subj=system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null) No, I don't think this is relevant... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these e-mails) as does Skype. I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from NetworkManager. As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers place: It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any details. What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected? Wireless, Wired etc. Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can. - Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both. - I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption - No proxi, DHCP Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following: [si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org Server: 192.168.1.1 Address: 192.168.1.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: download.fedoraproject.org canonical name = wildcard.fedoraproject.org. Name: wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 66.35.62.166 Name: wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 80.239.156.215 Name: wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 152.46.7.222 And if I directly type firefox 66.35.62.166, I get to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So he means that this might be a problem with DNS... Do you have any SELinux issues with libc or similar? //HW Simon I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before we can help ;o) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues: - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf. - SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.full - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home. - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these e-mails) as does Skype. I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from NetworkManager. As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers place: It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any details. What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected? Wireless, Wired etc. Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can. - Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both. - I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption - No proxi, DHCP Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following: [si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org Server: 192.168.1.1 Address: 192.168.1.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: download.fedoraproject.org canonical name = wildcard.fedoraproject.org. Name: wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 66.35.62.166 Name: wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 80.239.156.215 Name: wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 152.46.7.222 And if I directly type firefox 66.35.62.166, I get to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So he means that this might be a problem with DNS... Do you have any SELinux issues with libc or similar? //HW Simon I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before we can help ;o) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues: - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf. - SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.full - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home. - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon Nope... Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported: server 192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc) which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem. I wild guess, something went wrong with Firefox, libc (which implements DNS-lookup) or you might have lost a track on your hard disk. I have no clue... If possible, try a LIVE USB-stick to see if the issue is still there. //HW Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these e-mails) as does Skype. I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from NetworkManager. As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers place: It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any details. What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected? Wireless, Wired etc. Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can. - Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both. - I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption - No proxi, DHCP Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following: [si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org Server: 192.168.1.1 Address: 192.168.1.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: download.fedoraproject.org canonical name = wildcard.fedoraproject.org. Name: wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 66.35.62.166 Name: wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 80.239.156.215 Name: wildcard.fedoraproject.org Address: 152.46.7.222 And if I directly type firefox 66.35.62.166, I get to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So he means that this might be a problem with DNS... Do you have any SELinux issues with libc or similar? //HW Simon I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before we can help ;o) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues: - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf. - SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.full - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home. - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon Nope... Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported: server 192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc) which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem. I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this morning, at my brother's place, everything went well. I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS numbers, just to be sure that it's not that. Thanks anyway for your help. Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:16 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues: - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf. - SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.full - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home. - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon Nope... Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported: server 192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc) which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem. I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this morning, at my brother's place, everything went well. I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS numbers, just to be sure that it's not that. Thanks anyway for your help. Simon Your DNS server is 192.168.1.1? Did you say you were using a DSL router? Is the IP address of your DSL router, 192.168.1.1? You also say everything works fine at your brother's place. Could your DSL router be doing something, like blocking certain traffic? Can you check your DSL router configuration, please? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Quoting Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com: On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:16 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues: - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf. - SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.full - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home. - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon Nope... Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported: server 192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc) which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem. I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this morning, at my brother's place, everything went well. I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS numbers, just to be sure that it's not that. Thanks anyway for your help. Simon Your DNS server is 192.168.1.1? Did you say you were using a DSL router? Is the IP address of your DSL router, 192.168.1.1? You also say everything works fine at your brother's place. Could your DSL router be doing something, like blocking certain traffic? Can you check your DSL router configuration, please? Need to go sleeping now (it's 1:30 am already here in Switzerland). I'll check out the DSL router configuration tomorrow. But what I can already say is that with Ubuntu (which I used until Fryday evening), I never had any problem, so I would be surprised if it's that. Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
Seth Vidal wrote: And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about it. As for me, I don't mind publishing my real email address but I would prefer not to have my fedoraproject.org alias published where the spammers can find it. I don't particularly like having forwarding aliases created for me, but if you have to give me one then please don't publish it. I have a spam blocker that makes my address pretty much unspammable. It's unspammable even if the spam comes through a forwarding alias, but in that case backscatter may be generated. The spam blocker is implemented such that my own server never sends out backscatter, but I naturally have no control over the fedoraproject.org server or other forwarding servers. Therefore I try to avoid using forwarding aliases in ways that might allow spammers to find them, not because it affects me but to be nice to other netizens who don't have as effectual spam blockers as I have. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about it. As for me, I don't mind publishing my real email address but I would prefer not to have my fedoraproject.org alias published where the spammers can find it. I don't particularly like having forwarding aliases created for me, but if you have to give me one then please don't publish it. Here you go: rombobe...@fedoraproject.org rombobe...@fedoraproject.org rombobe...@fedoraproject.org rombobe...@fedoraproject.org rombobe...@fedoraproject.org Now what? Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: parsecvs repo? [Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 15:43 +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: Does anyone know of a public and *maintained* repository for parsecvs? I've looked numerous times (as recently as a few weeks ago), and tried to contact Keith Packard, hoping he would still be maintaining it, but have had no luck. Kristian Høgsberg has a repo for the changes he made and used for gnome conversion: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~krh/parsecvs It is slightly newer than Keith's repo. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: Firefox simply tells me: Server not found. Firefox can't find the server at start.fedoraproject.org. I really have no idea what the problem might be. Try wiping your Firefox cache and restarting. Also, as with any FF problem, see if it still happens in safe mode (firefox --safe-mode). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 07:29 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote: Firefox simply tells me: Server not found. Firefox can't find the server at start.fedoraproject.org. There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move. Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not a problem with your system. --Greg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 09:11 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 07:29 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote: Firefox simply tells me: Server not found. Firefox can't find the server at start.fedoraproject.org. There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move. Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not a problem with your system. The scheduled outage is a due to start about 20 minutes from now, so it seems unlikely to be the problem. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/12 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move. Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not a problem with your system. The scheduled outage is a due to start about 20 minutes from now, so it seems unlikely to be the problem. Really? The message I saw said that the websites were going down for about two hours starting at: date -d '2009-12-11 02:00:00 UTC' By my reckoning, that was about 44 hours, 48 minutes ago... so it should be long done by now. The original message on this topic was posted at 11 December 2009 22:08 UTC+1 - so unless Simon waited 17 hours before posting, I'd still agree with you that this probably isn't the cause of his particular problem. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 22:53 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: 2009/12/12 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move. Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not a problem with your system. The scheduled outage is a due to start about 20 minutes from now, so it seems unlikely to be the problem. Really? Yes, really. The message I saw said that the websites were going down for about two hours starting at: date -d '2009-12-11 02:00:00 UTC' By my reckoning, that was about 44 hours, 48 minutes ago... so it should be long done by now. Except that there was another message announcing the outage for 2009-12-12. See https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg8.html The original message on this topic was posted at 11 December 2009 22:08 UTC+1 - so unless Simon waited 17 hours before posting, I'd still agree with you that this probably isn't the cause of his particular problem. I don't know if the second announcement was meant to override the first, but it seems likely as otherwise the two periods would overlap. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
2009/12/12 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 22:53 +, Sam Sharpe wrote: 2009/12/12 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move. Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not a problem with your system. The scheduled outage is a due to start about 20 minutes from now, so it seems unlikely to be the problem. Really? Yes, really. The message I saw said that the websites were going down for about two hours starting at: date -d '2009-12-11 02:00:00 UTC' By my reckoning, that was about 44 hours, 48 minutes ago... so it should be long done by now. Except that there was another message announcing the outage for 2009-12-12. See https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg8.html Ahh... I'm not a fedora-announce subscriber - so I only saw the message cross-posted to this list - sorry! ... but that announcement was for 11:00 UTC 12/12/2009 - which is still well before your message saying it started in 20 minutes (which I received at 23:09 UTC) but well after Simon's reported problems. Also, reading the attached f-i ticket, it says that non-wiki fedoraproject.org websites will be up - which would tend to indicate that start.fedoraproject.org will stay up - so it's even less likely to be the source of the probem ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email address. Definitely @fedoraproject.org email addresses. A lot of us use them even in Bugzilla, all my packages have the fp.o address in %changelog. I dont want to fiddle around when i change my real email address. Just pop in to FAS and change it there, done. Best regards -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:05 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email address. Definitely @fedoraproject.org email addresses. A lot of us use them even in Bugzilla, all my packages have the fp.o address in %changelog. I dont want to fiddle around when i change my real email address. Just pop in to FAS and change it there, done. A big -1 for this. Your A lot is in fact a tiny fraction and for some of us an e-mail address is important mean for identifying an user (Oh, this is John Doe of Canonical, ...). It would be awesome if names in GIT log would correspond to what an user uses in the package's change log (maybe falling back to @fp.o if there's no changelog entry for him). Some of us (well, maybe just me) use e-mail addresses to separate packages maintained in private time to job-related packages and it would be awesome if it could be preserved in the GIT log. Would this be possible? (If noone would volunteer to write a script that would generate the database, I'd do. This would need a slightly different format of the information, since package information should be added though). -- Flash is the Web2.0 version of blink and animated gifs. -- Stephen Smoogen -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Lubomir Rintel wrote: A big -1 for this. Your A lot is in fact a tiny fraction and for some of us an e-mail address is important mean for identifying an user (Oh, this is John Doe of Canonical, ...). I use mine exclusively and I think referring to the generic address makes life a lot easier. And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about it. -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:07, Lubomir Rintel lkund...@v3.sk wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:05 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email address. Definitely @fedoraproject.org email addresses. A lot of us use them even in Bugzilla, all my packages have the fp.o address in %changelog. I dont want to fiddle around when i change my real email address. Just pop in to FAS and change it there, done. A big -1 for this. Your A lot is in fact a tiny fraction and for some of us an e-mail address is important mean for identifying an user (Oh, this is John Doe of Canonical, ...). I think no one will ever agree on this particular issue. Maybe we could add a setting in FAS where each one can decide I want to use my personal address or I want to use my @fp.o address. Then when FAS is requested for an email address, it would answer the one the user chose. I know adding configuration is almost never a good idea, but in this case, it might be the only way to avoid endless sterile flamewars. :-/ -- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:12, Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Lubomir Rintel wrote: A big -1 for this. Your A lot is in fact a tiny fraction and for some of us an e-mail address is important mean for identifying an user (Oh, this is John Doe of Canonical, ...). I use mine exclusively and I think referring to the generic address makes life a lot easier. And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about it. Isn't it already posted in IRC when someone enters the .fasinfo skvidal command ? That's not in every google-retrievable gitweb interface, though. -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:05 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: 2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com: For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email address. Definitely @fedoraproject.org email addresses. A lot of us use them even in Bugzilla, all my packages have the fp.o address in %changelog. I dont want to fiddle around when i change my real email address. Just pop in to FAS and change it there, done. Another consideration in favor of using @fedoraproject.org emails is if you use real emails, they will be used for old commits, even when that's not historically accurate. We went with @src.gnome.org addresses for the GNOME git conversion because we didn't want, say, 5 years of work someone did at company A show up as commits from u...@companyb.com because that's where they work now. - Owen (We actually did something a little fancier at that - if the log message for the CVS/SVN commit contained something that looked like a ChangeLog entry with an obvious email address, then we used that as the Author and the @src.gnome.org only as the Committer. If we couldn't determine a plausible Author, then we used the @src.gnome.org address for both.) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 08:12 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about it. I think this would depend on what gets configured for your git client for fedora package repos, probably another file in .fedora/. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help: No internet connection
Simon Schneebeli writes: Hello all, After having used Ubuntu since almost more than three years, I decided to give Fedora a try. The installation went perfectly fine. Everything was perfectly recognised. Now I face one big problem: I can't manage to connect to the internet. Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection with my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired connection. Ping works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme manage to establish a connection. Define ping works. Define manage to establish a network connection. Any idea what the problem may be? I guess you need additional information. Which one exactly? The starting point would be the exact error message you are getting from Firefox. pgp6NK7L1AwJi.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Sam Varshavchik wrote: Simon Schneebeli writes: Hello all, After having used Ubuntu since almost more than three years, I decided to give Fedora a try. The installation went perfectly fine. Everything was perfectly recognised. Now I face one big problem: I can't manage to connect to the internet. Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection with my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired connection. Ping works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme manage to establish a connection. Define ping works. If I type at the command line ping google.com it gets an answer... Define manage to establish a network connection. When I change network connection from wireless to wired, a popup tells me connection established and the icon in the toolbar says connected... Any idea what the problem may be? I guess you need additional information. Which one exactly? The starting point would be the exact error message you are getting from Firefox. Need to restart into fedora to check this out. Give me two minutes... Simon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help: No internet connection
Firefox simply tells me: Server not found. Firefox can't find the server at start.fedoraproject.org. I really have no idea what the problem might be. Sam Varshavchik wrote: Simon Schneebeli writes: Hello all, After having used Ubuntu since almost more than three years, I decided to give Fedora a try. The installation went perfectly fine. Everything was perfectly recognised. Now I face one big problem: I can't manage to connect to the internet. Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection with my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired connection. Ping works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme manage to establish a connection. Define ping works. Define manage to establish a network connection. Any idea what the problem may be? I guess you need additional information. Which one exactly? The starting point would be the exact error message you are getting from Firefox. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: I'm currently playing with a utility called parsecvs to convert our cvs stuff into git. This utility can also translate the raw usernames that CVS has into more useful names+email addresses that you'd typically get out of git. But to make this conversion it needs a translation file. It would be really helpful if somebody could generate a file for me that is in the format of: username=firstname lastname email eg: jkeating=Jesse Keating jkeat...@fedoraproject.org notting=Bill Nottingham nott...@fedoraproject.org For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email address. Should be easy enough to get a list of users from FAS for this purpose. Thanks in advance! -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list Is it even possible to get a listing of all the users so such a file could be generated? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 22:00 -0600, Sir Gallantmon wrote: Is it even possible to get a listing of all the users so such a file could be generated? FAS should provide this information. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: I'm currently playing with a utility called parsecvs to convert our cvs stuff into git. This utility can also translate the raw usernames that CVS has into more useful names+email addresses that you'd typically get out of git. But to make this conversion it needs a translation file. It would be really helpful if somebody could generate a file for me that is in the format of: username=firstname lastname email eg: jkeating=Jesse Keating jkeat...@fedoraproject.org notting=Bill Nottingham nott...@fedoraproject.org For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email address. I just did this on fedorapeople.org not against fas but I suspect that's the same set of users. #!/usr/bin/python -tt import pwd for pw in pwd.getpwall(): if pw.pw_uid 1: continue msg='%s=%s %...@fedoraproject.org' % (pw.pw_name, pw.pw_gecos, pw.pw_name) print msg the file with these contents is in my homedir on fedorapeople.org as: wacky-list-for-git if you want me to do it directly talking to fas I'll do it in the morning. -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion
On Thursday 10 December 2009 09:12:46 pm Seth Vidal wrote: On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: I'm currently playing with a utility called parsecvs to convert our cvs stuff into git. This utility can also translate the raw usernames that CVS has into more useful names+email addresses that you'd typically get out of git. But to make this conversion it needs a translation file. It would be really helpful if somebody could generate a file for me that is in the format of: username=firstname lastname email eg: jkeating=Jesse Keating jkeat...@fedoraproject.org notting=Bill Nottingham nott...@fedoraproject.org For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email address. I just did this on fedorapeople.org not against fas but I suspect that's the same set of users. #!/usr/bin/python -tt import pwd for pw in pwd.getpwall(): if pw.pw_uid 1: continue msg='%s=%s %...@fedoraproject.org' % (pw.pw_name, pw.pw_gecos, pw.pw_name) print msg the file with these contents is in my homedir on fedorapeople.org as: wacky-list-for-git if you want me to do it directly talking to fas I'll do it in the morning. -sv A script that grabs the entries from FAS, and outputs everything as UTF-8 files: http://konradm.fedorapeople.org/usernamelist.py Results with FAS emails (in my $HOME on fedorapeople.org): FAS-users-normalemails or fedoraproject.org emails: FAS-users-fedoraprojectemails Regards, -- Conrad Meyer ceme...@u.washington.edu -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list