[UNABLE TO SCAN] Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

2010-01-09 Thread Ed Greshko
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Joachim Backes wrote:
 When opening the following website:

 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,


 you will find on this page a small video pointing to
 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

 I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.

 But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as
 shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does
 not succeed.

 Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.
I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine

Ed



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Re: [UNABLE TO SCAN] Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

2010-01-09 Thread Joachim Backes

On 01/09/2010 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:


Joachim Backes wrote:

When opening the following website:

 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,


you will find on this page a small video pointing to
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.

But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as
shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does
not succeed.

Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.

I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine

Ed



Hi Ed,

having problems to play this file with mplayer:

mplayer Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote 
control.


Playing Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg.
Seek failed


Exiting... (End of file)


Regards

Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de

http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes



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Re: Help needed: Howto play offline a video presented on a website

2010-01-09 Thread Ed Greshko
Joachim Backes wrote:
 On 01/09/2010 11:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

 Joachim Backes wrote:
 When opening the following website:

  http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Möbiusband,


 you will find on this page a small video pointing to
 http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

 I want to play this video offline after downloading this ogg file.

 But when trying play this file with totem, I get an error popup as
 shown in the attachment ogg.jpg. Clicking on the search botton does
 not succeed.

 Anybody as an advice for me? All hints are welcome.
 I downloaded the file and used mplayer to play it fine

 Ed


 Hi Ed,

 having problems to play this file with mplayer:

 mplayer Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
 MPlayer SVN-r29800-4.4.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
 mplayer: could not connect to socket
 mplayer: No such file or directory
 Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote
 control.

 Playing Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg.
 Seek failed


Strange  When I used the link to save the file the file name was
Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg

I move the file to the file name you have and it also played fine

Do you get...

[egres...@f12 misty]$ file Datei\:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg
Datei:Moebiusband_wikipedia_animation.ogg: Ogg data, Theora video




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Re: help

2010-01-08 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +
Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:

 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, 
 so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, 
 Anaconda 12.47
 
 do you have an idea how to solve it?
 
 Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
 Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.

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Re: help

2010-01-08 Thread Andrew Haley
On 01/08/2010 12:04 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +
 Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 
 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, 
 so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, 
 Anaconda 12.47

 do you have an idea how to solve it?

 Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
 Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...
 
 Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
 and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
 quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
 boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.

That's a really i.nteresting and useful piece of advice that I haven't
heard before.  Thanks a lot, and this needs to be written up on a wall
somewhere.

Andrew.


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Re: help

2010-01-08 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +
 Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:

 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, 
 so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, 
 Anaconda 12.47
 
 do you have an idea how to solve it?

 Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
 Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

 Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
 and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
 quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
 boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.

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Try to use Xfce or LXDE fedora live spins : http://spins.fedoraproject.org/

run them in text mode and launch the installer.

-OR-

transfer the disk image directly to the hard disk.

i was able to run fedora Xfce live on an old p3 1ghz w/ 512mb ram.



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Re: help

2010-01-08 Thread Terry Polzin
On Friday 08 January 2010 07:04, Alan Cox wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:40:16 +

 Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
  we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't
   load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same
   error, Anaconda 12.47
  
  do you have an idea how to solve it?
 
  Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
  Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

 Text mode install for a minimal system, then installgroup xfce and claws
 and a few other apps instead of evolution and gnome. That's a reasonably
 quick way to debloat Fedora and actually get work done. Useful on bigger
 boxes too as the desktop is much snappier and starts far faster.
I've tried installing XFCE on f12 lately, and just get a lovely background and 
nothing else.


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Re: help

2010-01-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 09:42:06PM +, jorge a secas wrote:
 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't
 load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same
 error, Anaconda 12.47

What is the error you get in text mode?

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Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/8 jorge a secas tala...@hotmail.com:
 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load,
 so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error,
 Anaconda 12.47

 do you have an idea how to solve it?


I don't know what that error is, but AFAIK the minimum amount of RAM
has changed to more than 256MB, so you won't be able to run the
graphical mode.

-c

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RE: help

2010-01-07 Thread Joseph L. Casale
we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so 
we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 
12.47

do you have an idea how to solve it?

Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

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Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Paul
Hi,

 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't
 load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same
 error, Anaconda 12.47

Which version of Fedora are you using and what is the video card in the
machines?

TTFN

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Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Tony Nelson
On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
  we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode 
  doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we 
  get the same error, Anaconda 12.47
 
 do you have an idea how to solve it?
 
 Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
 Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is 
required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to 
use less memory?

OP:  There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs.  

If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better 
support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different 
goals of the projects.  If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might 
want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE.

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Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Ralph Blach
On am embedded power pc project with 256 mb of ram, I ran fvwm, just 
fine.  This was with nfs root and a very old matrox video card.


I also compiled xdoom, madplay, and mozilla.

So this can be done, you will just need to install the basic machine in 
text mode, the install x, and fvwm along with the apps you want.


Chip.

Tony Nelson wrote:

On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote:

we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode
doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we
get the same error, Anaconda 12.47

do you have an idea how to solve it?


Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...


Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is
required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to
use less memory?

OP:  There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs.

If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better
support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different
goals of the projects.  If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might
want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE.



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Re: help

2010-01-07 Thread Kam Leo
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Ralph Blach rcbl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On am embedded power pc project with 256 mb of ram, I ran fvwm, just fine.
  This was with nfs root and a very old matrox video card.

 I also compiled xdoom, madplay, and mozilla.

 So this can be done, you will just need to install the basic machine in text
 mode, the install x, and fvwm along with the apps you want.

 Chip.

 Tony Nelson wrote:

 On 10-01-07 18:40:16, Joseph L. Casale wrote:

 we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode
 doesn't load, so we choice the text mode, but in all machines we
 get the same error, Anaconda 12.47

 do you have an idea how to solve it?

 Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
 Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

 Umm, don't you think that the Anaconda developers know what is
 required, and that the rather minimal text-mode install is designed to
 use less memory?

 OP:  There may be useful info in the other VTs when the error occurs.

 If you can't find a workaround, try Debian, which has much better
 support than Fedora for small memory machines, due to the different
 goals of the projects.  If you want to run a GUI on 256 MB, you might
 want to choose something less memory-hungry than Gnome or KDE.


Try appending nomodeset to grub. You may also need to add vga=791
or vga=ask to ensure selection of a suitable display driver.

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:33:40 -0500
Mail Llists wrote:

   What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees
 the vm ?

The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
via virsh dumpxml name  name.xml, then you can recover the
machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still
boot f11, that would be the way to go.

The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way
is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when
it gets to the disk image part, say use existing, then browse local,
then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from
the iso image, use force off, then you should be able to boot
from the disk image and maybe it will be back.

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 the vm ?
 
 The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
 via virsh dumpxml name  name.xml, then you can recover the
 machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still
 boot f11, that would be the way to go.

  I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
.xml file stored somewhere ?

 I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful

 
 The error-prone, will probably force you to re-activate windows, way
 is to define a new virtual machine with virt-manager, and when
 it gets to the disk image part, say use existing, then browse local,
 then point it at your existing image file. When it boots from
 the iso image, use force off, then you should be able to boot
 from the disk image and maybe it will be back.
 

 Yeh ok .. thanks for your help

 gene

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500
Mail Lists wrote:

   I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
 .xml file stored somewhere ?

Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows
where :-). If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might
be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command
that way :-).

If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with
no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine
definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all
the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just
have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete
docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org.

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists
On 01/03/2010 10:50 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 10:29:14 -0500
 Mail Lists wrote:
 
   I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
 .xml file stored somewhere ?
 
 Libvirt itself stashes all its info in some random place, God knows
 where :-). 

  Was hoping someone aside from him/her might know!! I suspect its
buried in the registry somewhere.


If you really have an complete disk image of f11, you might
 be able to chroot to it, start libvirtd, and do the dumpxml command
 that way :-).

 I dont have a disk image - i have rdiff-backup's.

 
 If your runs of the XP image with the qemu command line work with
 no activation problems, you can probably tweak the new machine
 definition xml to match the qemu command line, since basically all
 the xml does is define the things it will pass to qemu (you just
 have to guess how to translate things :-). More or less complete
 docs for the xml appear at libvirt.org.

  Ug.
 

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Mail Lists

  While I am still unable to find the original .xml files on the backup
- I did find a log file in root/.virt-manager which has the xml
definitions from when they were created.

  Then Tom's virsh define should now work if I copy the lines from log
to a .xml file.

   Thanks for help!

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread suvayu ali
Hi Gene,

2010/1/3 Mail Lists li...@sapience.com:
 On 01/03/2010 08:10 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 the vm ?

 The simplest way is to regularly backup your machine definitions
 via virsh dumpxml name  name.xml, then you can recover the
 machine definition via virsh define name.xml. If you can still
 boot f11, that would be the way to go.

  I have backups of the entire disk but cannot still boot f11. Is that
 .xml file stored somewhere ?

  I looked in /var/lib/libvirt/ but didnt find anything useful


Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files.

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-03 Thread Suvayu Ali

Hi Gene,

On Sunday 03 January 2010 08:40 PM, Mail Lists wrote:

On 01/03/2010 10:43 PM, suvayu ali wrote:


Try /etc/libvirt/qemu for the xml files.



  Holy smoke - you're right!!

  I never woulda guessed it would be in /etc ... who would have thunk!!!
Shouldn't it be in /var/lib or whatever?



Technically speaking, all settings stuff go to /etc and the xml files 
would probably be considered settings for the virtual machines.


I would suggest look into the virsh interactive command line to manage 
your virtual machines. Its way more efficient compared to the gui. To 
open one, try `virsh --connect qemu:///system'. You can see all the 
commands with `help' and more specifics about every commands with `help 
command'.



  Thank you!



I found this the hard way about a week back. Hope this helps you. And 
Happy New Year to all. :)

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Re: help - recovering virtual machine

2010-01-02 Thread Mail Llists
On 01/03/2010 12:33 AM, Mail Llists wrote:
 
   I have an image file with everything I need installed on it.
 
   It was running fine in f11 (has win xp in it).
 
   I intalled f12.
 
   What do I need to do/recover from backups - so that virt-manager sees
 the vm ?
 

 I should add I can run the image fine from command line (qemu-kvm) - I
just dont know how to get it managed by virt-manager again like it was.

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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-18 Thread Debarshi Ray
 What happens now? Not much I guess, as the list archive obfuscates email
 [...]
 that give you a feeling of accomplishment?

Just trying to point out the futility of trying to avoid publishing
your Fedora ID. It took me less than a minute to find it without
asking any human. One might even put up a web page with your Fedora
email address all over it.

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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-18 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 04:35:07PM +0200, Debarshi Ray wrote:
  What happens now? Not much I guess, as the list archive obfuscates email
  [...]
  that give you a feeling of accomplishment?
 
 Just trying to point out the futility of trying to avoid publishing
 your Fedora ID. It took me less than a minute to find it without
 asking any human. One might even put up a web page with your Fedora
 email address all over it.

He did not wrote about his Fedora ID, but about publishing the e-mail
address not obfuscated. Also he clearly stated that he wishes that
nobody publishes it obfuscated. If you just want to point out, that you
can research the address, you still do not need to post it. For me it
was only rude behaviour.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Simon Schneebeli
Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox, 
Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my 
wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I 
just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree 
that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope 
that I'll find time this evening to work more on it.


Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the 
wireless that blocs some connections.


Simon

On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new 
Mac# from a added

router, computer



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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Aaron Gray
The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your
firewall configuration ?

Aaron


2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org

 Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox,
 Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my
 wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just
 don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it
 probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find
 time this evening to work more on it.

 Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the
 wireless that blocs some connections.

 Simon


 On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

 On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

 May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
 lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.

 To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some
 of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a
 added
 router, computer


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RE: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Ishmael Chibvuri
Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here..


_

The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your
firewall configuration ?

 

Aaron

 

2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org

Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox,
Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my
wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just
don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it
probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find
time this evening to work more on it.

Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the
wireless that blocs some connections.

Simon



On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.

To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some of
these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a added
router, computer


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Simon Schneebeli

No difference with or without firewall. But I discovered something else:

Here's what happens:
- I start my computer and connect to the wireless: Firefox and 
Thunderbird can not connect to the wireless but Opera can.
- I plug in the Ethernet cable. Now all connections work, with or 
without firewall.
- I deconnect the cable and connect again through the wireless. Now both 
programs do connect properly.


???

Simon

On 12/16/2009 01:39 PM, Ishmael Chibvuri wrote:


Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here..

_

The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your 
firewall configuration ?


Aaron

2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org 
mailto:simon.schneeb...@okko.org


Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not 
Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer 
and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web 
work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But 
I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. 
I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it.


Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the 
wireless that blocs some connections.


Simon



On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.

To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new 
Mac# from a added

router, computer


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Aaron Gray
2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org

 No difference with or without firewall. But I discovered something else:

 Here's what happens:
 - I start my computer and connect to the wireless: Firefox and Thunderbird
 can not connect to the wireless but Opera can.
 - I plug in the Ethernet cable. Now all connections work, with or without
 firewall.
 - I deconnect the cable and connect again through the wireless. Now both
 programs do connect properly.

 ???


Sounds like a DNS problem again.

Aaron


 Simon


 On 12/16/2009 01:39 PM, Ishmael Chibvuri wrote:


 Yes! Your firewall could be , the issue here..


 _

 The only thing I can think of suggesting is, have you looked at your
 firewall configuration ?

 Aaron

 2009/12/16 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org mailto:
 simon.schneeb...@okko.org


 Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not Firefox,
 Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer and my
 wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web work. I just
 don't understand why some applications can't connect. But I agree that it
 probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. I hope that I'll find
 time this evening to work more on it.

 Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the
 wireless that blocs some connections.

 Simon



 On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

 On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

 May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
 lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.

 To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes some
 of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# from a
 added
 router, computer


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-16 Thread Jim

On 12/16/2009 07:16 AM, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
Well, since I can surf the web with Opera and use Skype but not 
Firefox, Evolution and Thuderbird, the connection between the computer 
and my wireless ADSL modem as well as between the modem and the web 
work. I just don't understand why some applications can't connect. But 
I agree that it probably is linked to the configuration of the modem. 
I hope that I'll find time this evening to work more on it.


Also to mention: Connection through cable works perfect. It's just the 
wireless that blocs some connections.


Simon

On 12/16/2009 02:59 AM, Jim wrote:

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new 
Mac# from a added

router, computer




If what you say is that you can get some websites but not others ??

You may have a IPV6 problem.

If you use KDE see if Konqueror has the same problem as Firefox.

I have attached some instructions, follow the instructions on firefox , 
near bottom of page.


If you have problems with Konqueror or performing a rpm -ivh http:// *
follow all of the instructions.
1.  Q: Networking (or DNS) seems really slow and fails often (Updated 2 January 
2009)
A: If Fedora 10's networking seems slow or you get frequent network connection 
failures (when other Fedoras or other OSes were working just fine on your 
machine), then you're probably hitting this bug.

Here's how you can work around it:

   1. Open a Terminal.
   2. Become root:

  su -
   3. Make sure that the dnsmasq program is installed (it usually is, by 
default, in Fedora 10):

  rpm -q dnsmasq

  If that says package dnsmasq is not installed, then you need to install 
dnsmasq, by running the following command:

  yum install dnsmasq
   4. Now, you have to find out which network interface your machine is using:

  route -n

  You'll see some output that looks like this:

  Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.0 
0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0

  The eth0 there (the furthest bottom-right text in the output) is the name 
of the network interface I'm using. Yours might be eth1 or something totally 
different. Just remember it for the next step.
   5. Now create a file called /etc/dhclient-your network interface.conf. For 
example, if your network interface is eth0, the file would be called 
/etc/dhclient-eth0.conf.

  You can create the file with this command (assuming your network 
interface is eth0):

  nano /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf

  Then make this the only line in the file:

  prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;

  And then save the file and close it (Ctrl-X then Y).

  If you have both a wireless and a wired network connection, you will have 
to do this step once for each of them.
   6. Now start dnsmasq:

  service dnsmasq start

  And make sure that it will start every time your computer starts:

  chkconfig dnsmasq on
   7. Now restart your network connection:

  service NetworkManager restart

And now things should be as fast as normal again. You might have to restart the 
programs that you're running for them to pick up the changes that 
NetworkManager made when it restarted.



2.  * IPv6
You might notice that your browsing through Firefox is a little slow on Fedora 
10. This is because Firefox 3 has enabled by default IPv6 which causes Firefox 
to first resolve an IPv6 address and after the connection fails it switches to 
IPv4. To change this setting type:

about:config


and in Filter box type:

network.dns.disableIPv6


Right click on it, select Toggle and change its value to true. Restart Firefox 
and you are ready! 




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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread R. G. Newbury


Simon wrote:
  As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always 
quite

  happy. So let's give it a try:
  snip
  My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
  Simon
  Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the
  universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!

My! I sure feel like if I'm doing something wrong:

Not really. Your ifconfig output shows that your machine knows it has 2 
interfaces, and it appears that both are connecting and getting IP 
addresses from the router (unless you have set them both static: you did 
not say. But wired works, so now there is just the wireless setup!


[r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]# python setup.py install
Using init file ('/etc/rc.d/init.d/', 'init/redhat/wicd')
Using pid path wicd.pid
Language support for es_CL es_NI zh_TW no sr nl el es_ES ml uk vi he fi
nl_NL ca pt eu eo ka de_DE fr it ko zh_HK lv es bg gl ru_RU fa sk es_VE
de ro da pt_BR fr_CA et kk sl es_AR cs lt ja ru sv hu te ar_EG zh_CN id
tr es_MX pl it_IT es_GT
running install
error: invalid Python installation: unable to open
/usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)

You are not *doing* anything wrong, but something *IS* wrong.
Check that you have a /usr/lib/python2.6 folder. It should exist, as 
should the config subfolder. Does on my F12 install.

If it does not, then
'yum install python python-devel'
And re-try the wicd install.

The other route is to go back to NetworkManager. It is already installed 
and should work (in its inimitable obscure fashion).


Since you do not have wicd in the way, then:
chkconfig wpa_supplicant on
chkconfig NetworkManager on

Disconnect the wired connection and re-boot. Then 'system-config-network'
and check that the wireless card is properly defined. NM should find the 
wlan0 interface, and connect.

As noted before, this works best if encryption is turned off at this stage.
(I cannot remember if network services are supposed to on, or off. But 
NetworkManager deals with that)

You are almost there!

Geoff











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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread William Case
Hi Simon;

On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 23:27 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
 On 12/14/2009 11:02 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
  Simon wrote:
 

I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read.  My
knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited.  However, in a response to my
post Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !, Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes
the passing remark I didn't have video or a network connection at first
boot.  Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0.  I fixed that, ran yum update
and pretty much everything is golden.

He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it.  But
could your problem be the same as his Somehow DHCP was disabled for
eth0.

Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little.


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Axel Thimm
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 09:09:32PM +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
 
 On 12/14/2009 08:52 PM, Craig White wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
 On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
 As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
 happy. So let's give it a try:
 
 I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/
 
 It tells me the following:
 python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686
 (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)
 
 So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/
 
 Test Transaction Errors:   file
 /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from
 install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from
 package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386

urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386 is not part of a Fedora repo, browsing the net
indicates that this is from opensuse?

You should uninstall urwid, point yum to ATrpms and just yum install
wicd (if you want to use wicd).

 Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that
 is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms)
 until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories.

Actually this is about mixing Fedora and opensuse, there third party
repo usage just uncovered this.

 My experience with wicd on Ubuntu was actually really good, so if
 there is an easy way to do it on my computer and if furthermore this
 could help solve my problem, I'd be more than willing to give it a
 try.
 
 Simon
 

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Mikkel
On 12/15/2009 09:23 AM, William Case wrote:
 
 I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read.  My
 knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited.  However, in a response to my
 post Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !, Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes
 the passing remark I didn't have video or a network connection at first
 boot.  Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0.  I fixed that, ran yum update
 and pretty much everything is golden.
 
 He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it.  But
 could your problem be the same as his Somehow DHCP was disabled for
 eth0.
 
 Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little.
 
Well, one way would be to run System -- Preferences -- Network
Connections and edit the interface. There are drop-down menus under
both IPv4 and IPv6 to enable DHCP.
If you have the network applet, you can also right click on it, and
pick Edit Connections.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Simon Andrews

On 11/12/2009 23:27, Simon Schneebeli wrote:

Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Simon Schneebeli writes:

Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection
with my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired
connection. Ping works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme
manage to establish a connection.


Define ping works.

If I type at the command line ping google.com it gets an answer...


OK.  If you're getting a positive response from that command then your 
basic network connection, DNS and routing must all be working.  There 
isn't much more to go wrong.


What do you get if you type:

wget www.google.com

into a shell?

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Simon Schneebeli


On 12/15/2009 04:43 PM, Mikkel wrote:

On 12/15/2009 09:23 AM, William Case wrote:
   

I have come to this thread late and only given it a cursory read.  My
knowledge of NetworkMangager is limited.  However, in a response to my
post Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !, Dec 13, Linuxguy123 makes
the passing remark I didn't have video or a network connection at first
boot.  Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0.  I fixed that, ran yum update
and pretty much everything is golden.

He doesn't say much further about what he did exactly to fix it.  But
could your problem be the same as his Somehow DHCP was disabled for
eth0.

Of course, feel free to ignore. As I said -- late and little.

 

Well, one way would be to run System --  Preferences --  Network
Connections and edit the interface. There are drop-down menus under
both IPv4 and IPv6 to enable DHCP.
If you have the network applet, you can also right click on it, and
pick Edit Connections.

Mikkel
   


I've actually checked that. It's properly set and always was. The 
problem must be elsewhere. Astonishingly I have the same problem when I 
start from the live CD, and on the other hand I didn't have this problem 
when connecting to the wireless at my brothers, nor on Starbucks today. 
That's why my guess is that it must be somewhere between my computer and 
the wireless modem. I just didn't had time to play around with the modem 
configuration. That's the next step in my plan. I just need to get some 
sleep from time to time ;-)


Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Mikkel
On 12/15/2009 03:32 PM, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
 
 I've actually checked that. It's properly set and always was. The
 problem must be elsewhere. Astonishingly I have the same problem when I
 start from the live CD, and on the other hand I didn't have this problem
 when connecting to the wireless at my brothers, nor on Starbucks today.
 That's why my guess is that it must be somewhere between my computer and
 the wireless modem. I just didn't had time to play around with the modem
 configuration. That's the next step in my plan. I just need to get some
 sleep from time to time ;-)
 
 Simon
 
This sounds more like a problem in your wireless settings. What type
of wireless security are you using on your wireless modem? It sounds
like your brother has an open system. Starbucks would also have an
open system. It may require something more after you can access the
Internet, but connecting to the wireless access point does not
require your system to have a wireless key before hand.

One other thing that can bite you when using WEP is if your system
will not give an IP address until you establish an encrypted
connection. I have not seen the option in Network Manager for the
iwconfig key restricted parameter. (Though you can add it.)

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Robert Collard
May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it 
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-15 Thread Jim

On 12/15/2009 08:36 PM, Robert Collard wrote:

May sound silly, but  have you turned off your home modem or reset it
lately?  Sometimes that is all it takes.
   
To add to that, if you add a router, a computer and the Mac# changes 
some of these Internet Modems have to be reset to reconize the new Mac# 
from a added

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Re: parsecvs repo? [Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-14 Thread Andreas Schwab
Jim Meyering j...@meyering.net writes:

 Does anyone know of a public and *maintained* repository for parsecvs?
 I've looked numerous times (as recently as a few weeks ago), and tried
 to contact Keith Packard, hoping he would still be maintaining it,
 but have had no luck.

I've recently pushed a few changes to a fork of the tree @ repo.or.cz.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread simon . schneebeli

Quoting Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com:


On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:16 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com:

 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
 I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
 - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf
 - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf.
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to
 /var/lib/misc/prelink.full
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to
 /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home.
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon


 Nope...

 Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported:  server
 192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc)
 which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem.

I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this
morning, at my brother's place, everything went well.

I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS
numbers, just to be sure that it's not that.

Thanks anyway for your help.

Simon




Your DNS server is 192.168.1.1?

Did you say you were using a DSL router?

Is the IP address of your DSL router, 192.168.1.1?

You also say everything works fine at your brother's place.

Could your DSL router be doing something, like blocking certain traffic?
Can you check your DSL router configuration, please?




I just tried with the live CD where I had the same problem.

Furthermore I got the right DNS which is 195.186.1.111 and  
195.186.4.111. And yes, I'm using a wireless DSL router (Motorola).  
What could be the configuration problem with the DSL router? I never  
change anything there and used it without any difficulties previously  
on Ubuntu. But in the same time it somehow seams obvious that it has  
to be linked to that since at my brother's place (with another service  
provider) everything worked fine.



Simon
(getting desperate).


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread R. G. Newbury

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:



At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
programs I needed and install the latest updates.



RPM: Couldn't resolve host

To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
seconds like the server doesn't answer...


What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
connection is offline.


Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s).

Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions 
on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number 
of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not 
over that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely 
possibility given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. 
Maybe he has NO security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.


Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's 
DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie 
192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try 
settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will 
not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.


At a console enter:
'service NetWorkManager stop'
'service wpa_supplicant stop'
'service ip6tables stop'

With a WIRED connection ONLY:
'service iptables restart'
'service network restart'

This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want 
in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.


Then:
'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.

If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your 
router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. 
If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of 
the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox)


If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely 
the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the 
network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this 
case).


If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping 
externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired 
connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to 
a DHCP IP scheme).


And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd 
(at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works 
at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and 
control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired 
connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this 
it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC 
address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP 
request from the laptop etc.


Geoff












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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 14 December 2009 16:58:36 R. G. Newbury wrote:
 At a console enter:
 'service NetWorkManager stop'

I guess that should read 'service NetworkManager stop'. Note the small w 
compared to the capital W. These things are case-sensitive, and can lead to 
problems if one is not careful. :-)

HTH, :-)
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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 18:01 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 On Monday 14 December 2009 16:58:36 R. G. Newbury wrote:
  At a console enter:
  'service NetWorkManager stop'
 
 I guess that should read 'service NetworkManager stop'. Note the small w 
 compared to the capital W. These things are case-sensitive, and can lead to 
 problems if one is not careful. :-)

rant
I hate this kind of nonsense. Either the basic utilities (including yum,
rpm, repoquery etc.) should be case-insensitive (which wouldn't be Unixy
enough for some people) or the packages should use only lower-case
names. Lower case is good enough for the frakking *kernel* ferchrissake.
What makes NM so special?
/rant

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Rick Sewill
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 11:58 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote: 
  On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
 
  At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
  problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
  programs I needed and install the latest updates.
 
  RPM: Couldn't resolve host
 
  To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
  seconds like the server doesn't answer...
  
  What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
  NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
  connection is offline.
 
 Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS server(s).
 
 Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions 
 on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number 
 of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not 
 over that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely 
 possibility given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. 
 Maybe he has NO security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.
 
 Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's 
 DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie 
 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try 
 settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will 
 not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.
 
 At a console enter:
 'service NetWorkManager stop'
 'service wpa_supplicant stop'
 'service ip6tables stop'
 
 With a WIRED connection ONLY:
 'service iptables restart'
 'service network restart'
 
 This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want 
 in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.
 
 Then:
 'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
 inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
 If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.
 
 If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your 
 router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. 
 If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of 
 the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox)
 
 If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely 
 the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the 
 network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this 
 case).
 
 If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping 
 externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired 
 connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to 
 a DHCP IP scheme).
 
 And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd 
 (at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works 
 at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and 
 control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired 
 connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this 
 it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC 
 address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP 
 request from the laptop etc.
 
 Geoff

Also, please do netstat -rn to see your routing table on your PC.
You indicated you could ping an Internet address,
when you type ping www.xxx.yyy.zzz, which led me to believe 
you have a default route pointing to your router, but I would check.
You may have other routes in your routing table, which explicitly 
route certain IP address ranges to the wrong gateway IP address.
netstat -rn should give us the needed routing table information.

-Rick

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Simon Schneebeli


On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:



At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
programs I needed and install the latest updates.



RPM: Couldn't resolve host

To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after 
some

seconds like the server doesn't answer...


What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
connection is offline.


Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS 
server(s).


Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access 
restrictions on your router, and in particular that you have not 
limited the number of DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, 
and that you are not over that limit. (Been *there*...real 
hair-puller!). This is a likely possibility given that you got things 
to work at your brother's house.. Maybe he has NO security settings 
enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.


Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's 
DNS server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network 
(ie 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to 
try settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This 
will not help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.


At a console enter:
'service NetWorkManager stop'
'service wpa_supplicant stop'
'service ip6tables stop'

With a WIRED connection ONLY:
'service iptables restart'
'service network restart'

This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want 
in the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.


Then:
'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.

If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever 
your router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping 
yahoo.com'. If that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the 
configuration of the programs you are running (ie proxy settings in 
Firefox)


If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely 
the wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the 
network setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for 
this case).


If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping 
externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired 
connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert 
to a DHCP IP scheme).


And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd 
(at wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It 
works at least as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup 
and control structure and can remember/act upon different wireless and 
wired connections, such as you need for a laptop at work and at home. 
For this it helps if you use 'static DHCP' where the router parses the 
MAC address and delivers an address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP 
request from the laptop etc.


Geoff


Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added 
the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't work.


Here's what I get with ifconfig.

[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
  inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
  Memory:fe20-fe22

And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt 
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 
wlan0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 
eth0



As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite 
happy. So let's give it a try:


I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/

It tells me the following:
python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686 
(/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)


So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/

Test Transaction Errors:   file 
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from 
install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from 
package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
  file 

Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread H. Willstrand
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Simon Schneebeli
simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

 On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

 On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

 At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
 problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
 programs I needed and install the latest updates.

 RPM: Couldn't resolve host

 To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
 seconds like the server doesn't answer...

 What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
 NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
 connection is offline.

 Check that your router has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS
 server(s).

 Check that you have not forgotten that you turned on access restrictions
 on your router, and in particular that you have not limited the number of
 DHCP addresses which the router can serve out, and that you are not over
 that limit. (Been *there*...real hair-puller!). This is a likely possibility
 given that you got things to work at your brother's house.. Maybe he has NO
 security settings enabled??? Check that DHCP is turned ON.

 Check that system-config-network has IP address entries for your ISP's DNS
 server(s) and that the gateway address in on the correct network (ie
 192.168.1.1 and not by mistake 192.168.0.1 etc.) You might want to try
 settings a STATIC IP address to avoid DHCP contention errors. This will not
 help if you have MAC address filtering turned ON, at the router.

 At a console enter:
 'service NetWorkManager stop'
 'service wpa_supplicant stop'
 'service ip6tables stop'

 With a WIRED connection ONLY:
 'service iptables restart'
 'service network restart'

 This should A) stop all the wireless services and things we don't want in
 the way, and B) start ONLY the things we want to see.

 Then:
 'ifconfig eth0'  should show, in the second line something like:
 inet addr:192.168.1.99  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
 If not, try 'ifup eth0' then 'ifconfig eth0' again.

 If you have an address, start with 'ping 192.168.1.1' (or whatever your
 router's IP address is). That *should* work. Then try 'ping yahoo.com'. If
 that works, then the problem(s) are internal to the configuration of the
 programs you are running (ie proxy settings in Firefox)

 If you used a static IP, but cannot ping the router, then it is likely the
 wiring or router setup. If you get no address reported, then the network
 setup is wrong. (This is why a static address is useful for this case).

 If you get an IP address and can ping the router, but cannot ping
 externally, then it is probably the router's DNS setup. When the wired
 connection works, THEN you can try to set up wireless (and/or revert to a
 DHCP IP scheme).

 And if you ARE going to set up wireless then I strongly recommend wicd (at
 wicd.sourceforge.net) as a replacement for NetworkManager. It works at least
 as well as NM, but has a MUCH more transparent setup and control structure
 and can remember/act upon different wireless and wired connections, such as
 you need for a laptop at work and at home. For this it helps if you use
 'static DHCP' where the router parses the MAC address and delivers an
 address accordingly, triggered by the DHCP request from the laptop etc.

 Geoff

 Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added the
 DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't work.

 Here's what I get with ifconfig.

 [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
 eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
          inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
          RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
          Memory:fe20-fe22

 And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

 [r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt
 Iface
 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
 eth0
 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
 wlan0

This might be the problem. You have two networks at 192.168.1.0

Please stop one of the network cards to verify.

//HW

 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0
 eth0


 As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
 happy. So let's give it a try:

 I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/

 It tells me the following:
 python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686
 (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)

 So I get python-urwid from 

Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
 On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

 As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite 
 happy. So let's give it a try:
 
 I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/
 
 It tells me the following:
 python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686 
 (/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)
 
 So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/
 
 Test Transaction Errors:   file 
 /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from 
 install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from 
 package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.py from install 
 of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
 urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.pyc from install 
 of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
 urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.py from install of 
 python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
 urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.pyc from install 
 of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package 
 urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/curses_display.py from 
 install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from 
 package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file...
 
 My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...

Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that
is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms)
until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories.

Craig


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Simon Schneebeli

Here's what I get with ifconfig.

[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
  inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
  Memory:fe20-fe22

And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
wlan0
 

This might be the problem. You have two networks at 192.168.1.0

Please stop one of the network cards to verify.

//HW

   

0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0
eth0



Um. I work with a labtop computer, so I do have only one network card. ??

Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Simon Schneebeli


On 12/14/2009 08:52 PM, Craig White wrote:

On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 20:40 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
   

On 12/14/2009 05:58 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
 
   

As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:

I downloaded wicd from here: http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/wicd/

It tells me the following:
python-urwid is needed by package wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686
(/wicd-1.6.2.2-1.fc12.i686)

So I get python-urwid from http://atrpms.net/dist/f12/python-urwid/

Test Transaction Errors:   file
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid-0.9.8.4-py2.6.egg-info from
install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from
package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.py from install
of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/__init__.pyc from install
of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.py from install of
python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/canvas.pyc from install
of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from package
urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urwid/curses_display.py from
install of python-urwid-0.9.8.4-3.fc12.i686 conflicts with file from
package urwid-0.9.8.4-6.1.i386
file...

My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
 


Geoff's advice to use wicd just creates another layer of headache that
is unnecessary here. Forget installing the packages from Axel (atrpms)
until you get comfortable with Fedora and repositories.

Craig


   
My experience with wicd on Ubuntu was actually really good, so if there 
is an easy way to do it on my computer and if furthermore this could 
help solve my problem, I'd be more than willing to give it a try.


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread H. Willstrand
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Simon Schneebeli
simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
 Here's what I get with ifconfig.

 [r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
 eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
          inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
          RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
          Memory:fe20-fe22

 And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

 [r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt
 Iface
 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
 eth0
 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0
 wlan0


 This might be the problem. You have two networks at 192.168.1.0

 Please stop one of the network cards to verify.

 //HW



 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0
 eth0

 Um. I work with a labtop computer, so I do have only one network card. ??


According to the netstat -rn command you have wireless (wlan0) and LAN
(eth0), both using the same network 192.168.1.0.
Stop one of the cards via NetworkManager and see if Firefox starts to work..

//HW
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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread R. G. Newbury

Simon wrote:

 At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
  problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the 
additional

  programs I needed and install the latest updates.


Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added
the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't 
work.


I presume you actually meant the *wireless connection stll doesn't work.

Here's what I get with ifconfig.

[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
   inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
   inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
   RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
   Memory:fe20-fe22

We really need the full output of ifconfig. What does 'ifconfig wlan0' 
   give?


And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
wlan0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0
eth0

*This looks fine!* ifconfig should show Up addresses for BOTH 
interfaces. If it does not, then we have one sort of problem. If it 
does, but you cannot connect wirelessly, then it means another sort of 
problem, probably related to security or encryption.



As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:
snip
My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
Simon

Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from 
wicd.sourceforge.net, and make  make install. That avoids the sort of 
conflicts you got.


Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure the 
wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 'chkconfig wicd 
on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop icon for wicd-client, 
and configure the wireless card there too.
It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the 
router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then add 
MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last.


Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the 
universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!


Geoff





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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Simon Schneebeli


On 12/14/2009 11:02 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:

Simon wrote:

 At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
  problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the 
additional

  programs I needed and install the latest updates.


Meanwhile, the wired connection works (was it because I manually added
the DNS???, anyway it works), but the wired connection still doesn't 
work.


I presume you actually meant the *wireless connection stll doesn't work.

Here's what I get with ifconfig.

[r...@sangam simon]# ifconfig eth0
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1A:6B:CE:85:A7
   inet addr:192.168.1.33  Bcast:192.168.1.255  
Mask:255.255.255.0

   inet6 addr: fe80::21a:6bff:fece:85a7/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:7852 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:6432 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
   RX bytes:6456499 (6.1 MiB)  TX bytes:815876 (796.7 KiB)
   Memory:fe20-fe22

We really need the full output of ifconfig. What does 'ifconfig wlan0' 
   give?

[si...@sangam ~]$ ifconfig wlan0
wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:13:E8:82:76:33
  inet addr:192.168.1.34  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::213:e8ff:fe82:7633/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:6453 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:108 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:429676 (419.6 KiB)  TX bytes:13316 (13.0 KiB)

[si...@sangam ~]$



And here is what I get with netstat -rn:

[r...@sangam simon]# netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
eth0
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
wlan0
0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 0  0
eth0

*This looks fine!* ifconfig should show Up addresses for BOTH 
interfaces. If it does not, then we have one sort of problem. If it 
does, but you cannot connect wirelessly, then it means another sort of 
problem, probably related to security or encryption.



As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:
snip
My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
Simon

Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from 
wicd.sourceforge.net, and make  make install. That avoids the sort 
of conflicts you got.


Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure 
the wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 
'chkconfig wicd on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop 
icon for wicd-client, and configure the wireless card there too.
It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the 
router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then 
add MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last.


Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the 
universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!


Geoff







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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Simon Schneebeli



As for wicd: I used that when working with Ubuntu and was always quite
happy. So let's give it a try:
snip
My, my. What a headache. These thing make me feel kind of lost...
Simon

Yes. It is actually simpler to download the 2 packages from 
wicd.sourceforge.net, and make  make install. That avoids the sort 
of conflicts you got.


Please post 'ifconfig wlan0'. Use system-config-network to configure 
the wireless interface. If you get wicd installed, then do a 
'chkconfig wicd on' and 'service wicd start', then use the desktop 
icon for wicd-client, and configure the wireless card there too.
It usually helps to start by turning OFF all wireless security on the 
router and on the laptop, while you get the rest of it working, then 
add MAC filtering and WPA keys etc. last.


Sounds like you are actually quite close. Once wired is working, the 
universe of points of screwup gets a lot smaller!


Geoff



My! I sure feel like if I'm doing something wrong:

[r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]# python setup.py install
Using init file ('/etc/rc.d/init.d/', 'init/redhat/wicd')
Using pid path wicd.pid
Language support for es_CL es_NI zh_TW no sr nl el es_ES ml uk vi he fi 
nl_NL ca pt eu eo ka de_DE fr it ko zh_HK lv es bg gl ru_RU fa sk es_VE 
de ro da pt_BR fr_CA et kk sl es_AR cs lt ja ru sv hu te ar_EG zh_CN id 
tr es_MX pl it_IT es_GT

running install
error: invalid Python installation: unable to open 
/usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)

[r...@sangam wicd-1.6.2.2]#



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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-14 Thread Sam Sharpe
2009/12/14 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org:
 /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile

[...@samlap ~]$ sudo yum provides /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile

python-devel-2.6.2-2.fc12.i686 : The libraries and header files needed for
   : Python development.
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile

You'll need to install this package first ^

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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-13 Thread Christopher Brown
2009/12/12 Debarshi Ray debarshi@gmail.com:
 And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address
 somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about
 it.

 As for me, I don't mind publishing my real email address but I would prefer
 not to have my fedoraproject.org alias published where the spammers can find
 it. I don't particularly like having forwarding aliases created for me, but 
 if
 you have to give me one then please don't publish it.

 Here you go:
 rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
 rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
 rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
 rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
 rombobe...@fedoraproject.org

 Now what?

 Cheers,
 Debarshi

I think that is unnecessarily untagonistic.

This is a non-issue. Both my fpo and non-fpo are published regularly
in commits and whatnot and I receive about 1 spam per week. But then I
have gmail. :)


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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-13 Thread Björn Persson
Christopher Brown wrote:
 This is a non-issue.

It may be a non-issue to you but not to Seth Vidal obviously.

 Both my fpo and non-fpo are published regularly
 in commits and whatnot and I receive about 1 spam per week. But then I
 have gmail. :)

Well I have received zero spams since April when I flipped the switch to 
enforcing mode (except when the spam blocker crashed; there seems to be a race 
condition that I haven't tracked down yet.)

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 23:48 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
 ... but that announcement was for 11:00 UTC 12/12/2009 - which is
 still well before your message saying it started in 20 minutes (which

You're quite right. I was reading 11:00 as pm (it was late :-)

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread simon . schneebeli

Hello all,

My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being  
down. Meanwhile I made some progress:


At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no  
problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional  
programs I needed and install the latest updates.


Now, back home, my problem is the following:
- DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to  
the server)

- DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.

I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had  
since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome.


Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread Aaron Gray
2009/12/11 Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org

 Hello all,

 After having used Ubuntu since almost more than three years, I decided to
 give Fedora a try. The installation went perfectly fine. Everything was
 perfectly recognised. Now I face one big problem: I can't manage to connect
 to the internet.

 Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection with my
 wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired connection. Ping works.
 But neither Firefox nor any other programme manage to establish a
 connection.

 Any idea what the problem may be? I guess you need additional information.
 Which one exactly?

 To be more precise: It is a completly fresh install of Fedora 12 on a
 Thinkpad T61. I didn't change anything in the network configuration except
 that I put the password for my wireless connection.


I have this same problem quite often but am not with my Fedora machine so
cannot give precise instructions.

Try left or right clicking on the icon on the top right of the screen and
look at the options.

I remember having to fill in my MAC address into a field as a new
connection.

Best of luck,

Aaron
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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread H. Willstrand
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
 Hello all,

 My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down.
 Meanwhile I made some progress:

 At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem.
 All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed
 and install the latest updates.

 Now, back home, my problem is the following:
 - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the
 server)

What is your proxy settings in FF?
(Edit-Preferences-Advanced-Network-Settings-Configure proxies to
access the Internet

//HW

 - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.

 I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had since
 I use Linux. Help would me most welcome.

 Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread simon . schneebeli

Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com:


On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:35 PM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

Hello all,

My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being down.
Meanwhile I made some progress:

At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no problem.
All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional programs I needed
and install the latest updates.

Now, back home, my problem is the following:
- DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to the
server)


What is your proxy settings in FF?
(Edit-Preferences-Advanced-Network-Settings-Configure proxies to
access the Internet

//HW

Already checked that. No proxi in use (never did).

An additional information: The message Server not found pops up  
immediately. I have the impression that it blocks somewhere on my  
computer or at the modem...


Any idea?

Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread Suvayu Ali

On Sunday 13 December 2009 12:35 PM, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

Now, back home, my problem is the following:
- DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to
the server)
- DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.

Could it be that IPV6 thing? I think recently another user had a similar 
problem with firefox, and it turned out to be IPV6 related. It would be 
worth a try to check that.


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: 
 Hello all,
 
 My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being  
 down. Meanwhile I made some progress:
 
 At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no  
 problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional  
 programs I needed and install the latest updates.
 
 Now, back home, my problem is the following:
 - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to  
 the server)
 - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.
It would be nice to have an expanded version of DoES NOT WORK
What happens when you try Firrefox, for example? 
 
 I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had  
 since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome.
 
 Simon
 
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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread simon . schneebeli

Quoting Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net:


On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

Hello all,

My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being
down. Meanwhile I made some progress:

At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
programs I needed and install the latest updates.

Now, back home, my problem is the following:
- DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to
the server)
- DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.

It would be nice to have an expanded version of DoES NOT WORK
What happens when you try Firrefox, for example?


Firefox: I immediately get the message Server not found, Firefox  
can't find the server at [webpage].


Thunderbird: failed to connect to server [name of server]

Evolution: Error while fetching mail.

RPM: Couldn't resolve host

To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after  
some seconds like the server doesn't answer...


Simon



I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had
since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome.

Simon


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread H. Willstrand
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:00 PM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
 Quoting Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net:

 On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

 Hello all,

 My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being
 down. Meanwhile I made some progress:

 At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
 problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
 programs I needed and install the latest updates.

 Now, back home, my problem is the following:
 - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to
 the server)
 - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.

 It would be nice to have an expanded version of DoES NOT WORK
 What happens when you try Firrefox, for example?

 Firefox: I immediately get the message Server not found, Firefox can't find
 the server at [webpage].

 Thunderbird: failed to connect to server [name of server]

 Evolution: Error while fetching mail.

 RPM: Couldn't resolve host


What is the respons if you try:
nslookup download.fedoraproject.org

//HW

 To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
 seconds like the server doesn't answer...

 Simon


 I guess that this is about the strangest problem that I have ever had
 since I use Linux. Help would me most welcome.

 Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread Sam Sharpe
2009/12/13  simon.schneeb...@okko.org:
 Quoting Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net:

 On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 13:35 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

 Hello all,

 My problem is definitively not linked to the fedora-webpage being
 down. Meanwhile I made some progress:

 At my brothers place I managed to connect to the internet with no
 problem. All programmes worked, so I could add all the additional
 programs I needed and install the latest updates.

 Now, back home, my problem is the following:
 - DOES NOT WORK: Firefox, Thunderbird, Evolution (error connecting to
 the server)
 - DOES WORK: Opera, Sype, Software update, Ping.

 It would be nice to have an expanded version of DoES NOT WORK
 What happens when you try Firrefox, for example?

 Firefox: I immediately get the message Server not found, Firefox can't find
 the server at [webpage].

 Thunderbird: failed to connect to server [name of server]

 Evolution: Error while fetching mail.

 RPM: Couldn't resolve host

 To mention again: These messages appear immediately, not only after some
 seconds like the server doesn't answer...

What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
connection is offline.

Do you have a NetworkManager icon in your systray? Does it show your
network connection? How are you setting up your connection? What's
different between your network when at your Brother's house?

More info please...

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread simon . schneebeli

Q

What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
connection is offline.

Do you have a NetworkManager icon in your systray? Does it show your
network connection? How are you setting up your connection? What's
different between your network when at your Brother's house?

More info please...



As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send  
these e-mails) as does Skype.


As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers  
place: It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know  
any details.


To mention that my internet connection worked perfectly well under  
Ubuntu (that is before I installed Fedora).


Simon

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread Sam Sharpe
2009/12/13  simon.schneeb...@okko.org:
 Q

 What strikes me about that list is the ones that don't work are
 NetworkManager aware - I wonder if NetworkManager is telling them the
 connection is offline.

 Do you have a NetworkManager icon in your systray? Does it show your
 network connection? How are you setting up your connection? What's
 different between your network when at your Brother's house?

 More info please...


 As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these
 e-mails) as does Skype.

I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that
Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from
NetworkManager.

 As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers place:
 It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any details.

What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected?
Wireless, Wired etc.

I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before
we can help ;o)

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread simon . schneebeli




As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these
e-mails) as does Skype.


I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that
Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from
NetworkManager.


As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers place:
It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any details.


What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected?
Wireless, Wired etc.



Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can.
- Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both.
- I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption
- No proxi, DHCP

Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following:

[si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org
Server:192.168.1.1
Address:192.168.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
download.fedoraproject.orgcanonical name = wildcard.fedoraproject.org.
Name:wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 66.35.62.166
Name:wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 80.239.156.215
Name:wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 152.46.7.222

And if I directly type firefox 66.35.62.166, I get to  
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So  
he means that this might be a problem with DNS...


Simon


I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before
we can help ;o)





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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread H. Willstrand
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:07 AM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:



 What's that magic trick? I get to
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin
 and can surf around there without a problem. Magic?


 It's seams to be an DNS issue. FF fails to lookup the IP-number.
 During the installation of Fedora, did you got any errors?

 //HW

 I'm not aware of any errors during the installation.

 However, in SELinux Troubleshooter, I have this error message that might be
 linked to this problem:


 Summary:

 SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to
 /var/lib/misc/prelink.full.

 Detailed Description:

 [find has a permissive type (prelink_cron_system_t). This access was not
 denied.]

 SELinux denied access requested by find. /var/lib/misc/prelink.full may be a
 mislabeled. /var/lib/misc/prelink.full default SELinux type is
 prelink_var_lib_t,
 but its current type is cron_var_lib_t. Changing this file back to the
 default
 type, may fix your problem.

 File contexts can be assigned to a file in the following ways.

  * Files created in a directory receive the file context of the parent
    directory by default.
  * The SELinux policy might override the default label inherited from the
    parent directory by specifying a process running in context A which
 creates
    a file in a directory labeled B will instead create the file with label
 C.
    An example of this would be the dhcp client running with the dhclient_t
 type
    and creating a file in the directory /etc. This file would normally
 receive
    the etc_t type due to parental inheritance but instead the file is
 labeled
    with the net_conf_t type because the SELinux policy specifies this.
  * Users can change the file context on a file using tools such as chcon, or
    restorecon.

 This file could have been mislabeled either by user error, or if an normally
 confined application was run under the wrong domain.

 However, this might also indicate a bug in SELinux because the file should
 not
 have been labeled with this type.

 If you believe this is a bug, please file a bug report against this package.

 Allowing Access:

 You can restore the default system context to this file by executing the
 restorecon command. restorecon '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full', if this file is
 a
 directory, you can recursively restore using restorecon -R
 '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full'.

 Fix Command:

 /sbin/restorecon '/var/lib/misc/prelink.full'

 Additional Information:

 Source Context
  system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c
                              1023
 Target Context                system_u:object_r:cron_var_lib_t:s0
 Target Objects                /var/lib/misc/prelink.full [ file ]
 Source                        find
 Source Path                   /bin/find
 Port                          Unknown
 Host                          sangam
 Source RPM Packages           findutils-4.4.2-4.fc12
 Target RPM Packages           prelink-0.4.2-4.fc12
 Policy RPM                    selinux-policy-3.6.32-55.fc12
 Selinux Enabled               True
 Policy Type                   targeted
 Enforcing Mode                Enforcing
 Plugin Name                   restorecon
 Host Name                     sangam
 Platform                      Linux sangam 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP
 Wed
                              Dec 9 11:00:30 EST 2009 i686 i686
 Alert Count                   1
 First Seen                    Sun 13 Dec 2009 01:25:21 PM CET
 Last Seen                     Sun 13 Dec 2009 01:25:21 PM CET
 Local ID                      3eb8c967-bfe5-483b-89c7-9773eacbb4cf
 Line Numbers

 Raw Audit Messages

 node=sangam type=AVC msg=audit(1260707121.819:25385): avc:  denied  {
 getattr } for  pid=11599 comm=find path=/var/lib/misc/prelink.full
 dev=dm-0 ino=2097510
 scontext=system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
 tcontext=system_u:object_r:cron_var_lib_t:s0 tclass=file

 node=sangam type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1260707121.819:25385): arch=4003
 syscall=300 success=yes exit=0 a0=ff9c a1=96c3704 a2=96c36a4 a3=100
 items=0 ppid=11598 pid=11599 auid=0 uid=0 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0
 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none) ses=4 comm=find exe=/bin/find
 subj=system_u:system_r:prelink_cron_system_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)





No, I don't think this is relevant...

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread H. Willstrand
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:


 As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these
 e-mails) as does Skype.

 I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that
 Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from
 NetworkManager.

 As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers
 place:
 It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any
 details.

 What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected?
 Wireless, Wired etc.


 Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can.
 - Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both.
 - I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption
 - No proxi, DHCP

 Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following:

 [si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org
 Server:                192.168.1.1
 Address:        192.168.1.1#53

 Non-authoritative answer:
 download.fedoraproject.org        canonical name =
 wildcard.fedoraproject.org.
 Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
 Address: 66.35.62.166
 Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
 Address: 80.239.156.215
 Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
 Address: 152.46.7.222

 And if I directly type firefox 66.35.62.166, I get to
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So he
 means that this might be a problem with DNS...


Do you have any SELinux issues with libc or similar?

//HW

 Simon

 I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before
 we can help ;o)




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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread simon . schneebeli

I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
- SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf
- SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf.
- SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to  
/var/lib/misc/prelink.full
- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to  
/var/lib/misc/prelink.quick

- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home.
- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon

Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com:


On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:




As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send these
e-mails) as does Skype.


I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that
Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from
NetworkManager.


As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers
place:
It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any
details.


What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected?
Wireless, Wired etc.



Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can.
- Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both.
- I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption
- No proxi, DHCP

Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following:

[si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org
Server:                192.168.1.1
Address:        192.168.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
download.fedoraproject.org        canonical name =
wildcard.fedoraproject.org.
Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 66.35.62.166
Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 80.239.156.215
Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
Address: 152.46.7.222

And if I directly type firefox 66.35.62.166, I get to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So he
means that this might be a problem with DNS...



Do you have any SELinux issues with libc or similar?

//HW


Simon


I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before
we can help ;o)





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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread H. Willstrand
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
 I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
 - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf
 - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf.
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to
 /var/lib/misc/prelink.full
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to
 /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home.
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon


Nope...

Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported:  server
192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc)
which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem.

I wild guess, something went wrong with Firefox, libc (which
implements DNS-lookup) or you might have lost a track on your hard
disk.
I have no clue...

If possible, try a LIVE USB-stick to see if the issue is still there.

//HW


 Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com:

 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:


 As mentioned in my first e-mail, Opera works fine (I use it to send
 these
 e-mails) as does Skype.

 I don't think (but as I don't use it I'd welcome corrections) that
 Opera gets information about whether the connection is up from
 NetworkManager.

 As for the differences between the network at home and at my brothers
 place:
 It's another service provider, another modem, but I don't know any
 details.

 What kind of modem? DSL, Cable, 3G/HSPDA? How are you connected?
 Wireless, Wired etc.


 Ok. I'll try to provide as much information as I can.
 - Wired or wireless doesn't change anything. I have tried both.
 - I'm using a DSL connection with a WPA2 encryption
 - No proxi, DHCP

 Mr. Willstrand asked me to do the following:

 [si...@sangam ~]$ nslookup download.fedoraproject.org
 Server:                192.168.1.1
 Address:        192.168.1.1#53

 Non-authoritative answer:
 download.fedoraproject.org        canonical name =
 wildcard.fedoraproject.org.
 Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
 Address: 66.35.62.166
 Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
 Address: 80.239.156.215
 Name:        wildcard.fedoraproject.org
 Address: 152.46.7.222

 And if I directly type firefox 66.35.62.166, I get to
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/IndexAdmin without further problem. So he
 means that this might be a problem with DNS...


 Do you have any SELinux issues with libc or similar?

 //HW

 Simon

 I think we need a lot more information about your network setup before
 we can help ;o)




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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread simon . schneebeli

Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com:


On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
- SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf
- SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf.
- SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to
/var/lib/misc/prelink.full
- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to
/var/lib/misc/prelink.quick
- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home.
- SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon



Nope...

Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported:  server
192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc)
which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem.

I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this  
morning, at my brother's place, everything went well.


I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS  
numbers, just to be sure that it's not that.


Thanks anyway for your help.

Simon


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread Rick Sewill
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:16 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote: 
 Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com:
 
  On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
  I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
  - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf
  - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf.
  - SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to
  /var/lib/misc/prelink.full
  - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to
  /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick
  - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home.
  - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon
 
 
  Nope...
 
  Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported:  server
  192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc)
  which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem.
 
 I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this  
 morning, at my brother's place, everything went well.
 
 I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS  
 numbers, just to be sure that it's not that.
 
 Thanks anyway for your help.
 
 Simon
 
 

Your DNS server is 192.168.1.1?

Did you say you were using a DSL router?

Is the IP address of your DSL router, 192.168.1.1?

You also say everything works fine at your brother's place.

Could your DSL router be doing something, like blocking certain traffic?
Can you check your DSL router configuration, please?


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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-13 Thread simon . schneebeli

Quoting Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com:


On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 17:16 -0700, simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:

Quoting H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com:

 On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:35 AM,  simon.schneeb...@okko.org wrote:
 I currently have 6 Troubleshooter isues:
 - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python write access on sysctl.conf
 - SELinux is preventing /usr/bin/python setattr access on sysctl.conf.
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/find getattr access to
 /var/lib/misc/prelink.full
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash write access to
 /var/lib/misc/prelink.quick
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home.
 - SELinux is preventing /bin/bash search access to /home/Simon


 Nope...

 Your network configuration seams to work (nslookup reported:  server
 192.168.1.1 and the correct IP for download.fedoraproject.org, etc)
 which proves the correct functionality from your ISP and modem.

I don't think that the problem is linked to that either, since this
morning, at my brother's place, everything went well.

I'll try tomorrow with the live CD and also try to find out the DNS
numbers, just to be sure that it's not that.

Thanks anyway for your help.

Simon




Your DNS server is 192.168.1.1?

Did you say you were using a DSL router?

Is the IP address of your DSL router, 192.168.1.1?

You also say everything works fine at your brother's place.

Could your DSL router be doing something, like blocking certain traffic?
Can you check your DSL router configuration, please?

Need to go sleeping now (it's 1:30 am already here in Switzerland).  
I'll check out the DSL router configuration tomorrow. But what I can  
already say is that with Ubuntu (which I used until Fryday evening), I  
never had any problem, so I would be surprised if it's that.


Simon




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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-12 Thread Björn Persson
Seth Vidal wrote:
 And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address
 somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about
 it.

As for me, I don't mind publishing my real email address but I would prefer 
not to have my fedoraproject.org alias published where the spammers can find 
it. I don't particularly like having forwarding aliases created for me, but if 
you have to give me one then please don't publish it.

I have a spam blocker that makes my address pretty much unspammable. It's 
unspammable even if the spam comes through a forwarding alias, but in that 
case backscatter may be generated. The spam blocker is implemented such that 
my own server never sends out backscatter, but I naturally have no control 
over the fedoraproject.org server or other forwarding servers. Therefore I try 
to avoid using forwarding aliases in ways that might allow spammers to find 
them, not because it affects me but to be nice to other netizens who don't have 
as effectual spam blockers as I have.

Björn Persson


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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-12 Thread Debarshi Ray
 And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address
 somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about
 it.

 As for me, I don't mind publishing my real email address but I would prefer
 not to have my fedoraproject.org alias published where the spammers can find
 it. I don't particularly like having forwarding aliases created for me, but if
 you have to give me one then please don't publish it.

Here you go:
rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
rombobe...@fedoraproject.org
rombobe...@fedoraproject.org

Now what?

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Re: parsecvs repo? [Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-12 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 15:43 +0100, Jim Meyering wrote:
 Does anyone know of a public and *maintained* repository for parsecvs?
 I've looked numerous times (as recently as a few weeks ago), and tried
 to contact Keith Packard, hoping he would still be maintaining it,
 but have had no luck. 

Kristian Høgsberg has a repo for the changes he made and used for gnome
conversion: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~krh/parsecvs   It is slightly
newer than Keith's repo.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Simon Schneebeli simon.schneeb...@okko.org
 wrote:

 Firefox simply tells me: Server not found. Firefox can't find the server
 at start.fedoraproject.org.

 I really have no idea what the problem might be.


Try wiping your Firefox cache and restarting. Also, as with any FF problem,
see if it still happens in safe mode (firefox --safe-mode).

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-12 Thread Greg Woods
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 07:29 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
 Firefox simply tells me: Server not found. Firefox can't find the 
 server at start.fedoraproject.org.


There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the
project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move.
Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the
default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not
a problem with your system.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 09:11 -0700, Greg Woods wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 07:29 +0100, Simon Schneebeli wrote:
  Firefox simply tells me: Server not found. Firefox can't find the 
  server at start.fedoraproject.org.
 
 
 There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the
 project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move.
 Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the
 default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not
 a problem with your system.

The scheduled outage is a due to start about 20 minutes from now, so it
seems unlikely to be the problem.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-12 Thread Sam Sharpe
2009/12/12 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
 There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the
 project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move.
 Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the
 default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not
 a problem with your system.

 The scheduled outage is a due to start about 20 minutes from now, so it
 seems unlikely to be the problem.

Really?

The message I saw said that the websites were going down for about two
hours starting at:

date -d '2009-12-11 02:00:00 UTC'

By my reckoning, that was about 44 hours, 48 minutes ago... so it
should be long done by now.

The original message on this topic was posted at 11 December 2009
22:08 UTC+1 - so unless Simon waited 17 hours before posting, I'd
still agree with you that this probably isn't the cause of his
particular problem.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 22:53 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
 2009/12/12 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
  There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the
  project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move.
  Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the
  default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not
  a problem with your system.
 
  The scheduled outage is a due to start about 20 minutes from now, so it
  seems unlikely to be the problem.
 
 Really?

Yes, really.

 The message I saw said that the websites were going down for about two
 hours starting at:
 
 date -d '2009-12-11 02:00:00 UTC'
 
 By my reckoning, that was about 44 hours, 48 minutes ago... so it
 should be long done by now.

Except that there was another message announcing the outage for
2009-12-12. See
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg8.html

 The original message on this topic was posted at 11 December 2009
 22:08 UTC+1 - so unless Simon waited 17 hours before posting, I'd
 still agree with you that this probably isn't the cause of his
 particular problem.

I don't know if the second announcement was meant to override the first,
but it seems likely as otherwise the two periods would overlap.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-12 Thread Sam Sharpe
2009/12/12 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 22:53 +, Sam Sharpe wrote:
 2009/12/12 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com:
  There have been several postings from Fedora people indicating that the
  project web site is going to be down for 48 hours for a physical move.
  Firefox out of the box on a fresh Fedora install uses this as the
  default start page. If you can get to other web sites, it's probably not
  a problem with your system.
 
  The scheduled outage is a due to start about 20 minutes from now, so it
  seems unlikely to be the problem.

 Really?

 Yes, really.

 The message I saw said that the websites were going down for about two
 hours starting at:

 date -d '2009-12-11 02:00:00 UTC'

 By my reckoning, that was about 44 hours, 48 minutes ago... so it
 should be long done by now.

 Except that there was another message announcing the outage for
 2009-12-12. See
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-December/msg8.html

Ahh... I'm not a fedora-announce subscriber - so I only saw the
message cross-posted to this list - sorry!

... but that announcement was for 11:00 UTC 12/12/2009 - which is
still well before your message saying it started in 20 minutes (which
I received at 23:09 UTC) but well after Simon's reported problems.
Also, reading the attached f-i ticket, it says that non-wiki
fedoraproject.org websites will be up - which would tend to indicate
that start.fedoraproject.org will stay up - so it's even less likely
to be the source of the probem ;o)

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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com:
 For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org
 domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about
 whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email
 address.

Definitely @fedoraproject.org email addresses. A lot of us use them
even in Bugzilla, all my packages have the fp.o address in %changelog.
I dont want to fiddle around when i change my real email address.
Just pop in to FAS and change it there, done.

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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Lubomir Rintel
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:05 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote:
 2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com:
  For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org
  domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about
  whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email
  address.
 
 Definitely @fedoraproject.org email addresses. A lot of us use them
 even in Bugzilla, all my packages have the fp.o address in %changelog.
 I dont want to fiddle around when i change my real email address.
 Just pop in to FAS and change it there, done.

A big -1 for this. Your A lot is in fact a tiny fraction and for
some of us an e-mail address is important mean for identifying an user
(Oh, this is John Doe of Canonical, ...).

It would be awesome if names in GIT log would correspond to what an user
uses in the package's change log (maybe falling back to @fp.o if there's
no changelog entry for him). Some of us (well, maybe just me) use e-mail
addresses to separate packages maintained in private time to job-related
packages and it would be awesome if it could be preserved in the GIT
log.

Would this be possible? (If noone would volunteer to write a script that
would generate the database, I'd do. This would need a slightly
different format of the information, since package information should be
added though).

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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Seth Vidal



On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Lubomir Rintel wrote:



A big -1 for this. Your A lot is in fact a tiny fraction and for
some of us an e-mail address is important mean for identifying an user
(Oh, this is John Doe of Canonical, ...).


I use mine exclusively and I think referring to the generic address makes 
life a lot easier.


And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address 
somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about 
it.



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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:07, Lubomir Rintel lkund...@v3.sk wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:05 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote:
 2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com:
  For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org
  domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about
  whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email
  address.

 Definitely @fedoraproject.org email addresses. A lot of us use them
 even in Bugzilla, all my packages have the fp.o address in %changelog.
 I dont want to fiddle around when i change my real email address.
 Just pop in to FAS and change it there, done.

 A big -1 for this. Your A lot is in fact a tiny fraction and for
 some of us an e-mail address is important mean for identifying an user
 (Oh, this is John Doe of Canonical, ...).

I think no one will ever agree on this particular issue.

Maybe we could add a setting in FAS where each one can decide I want
to use my personal address or I want to use my @fp.o address. Then
when FAS is requested for an email address, it would answer the one
the user chose.

I know adding configuration is almost never a good idea, but in this
case, it might be the only way to avoid endless sterile flamewars. :-/


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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Seth Vidal



On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote:


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 14:12, Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

On Fri, 11 Dec 2009, Lubomir Rintel wrote:



A big -1 for this. Your A lot is in fact a tiny fraction and for
some of us an e-mail address is important mean for identifying an user
(Oh, this is John Doe of Canonical, ...).


I use mine exclusively and I think referring to the generic address makes
life a lot easier.

And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address
somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about
it.


Isn't it already posted in IRC when someone enters the .fasinfo
skvidal command ?



That's not in every google-retrievable gitweb interface, though.

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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Owen Taylor
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:05 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote:
 2009/12/11 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com:
  For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org
  domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about
  whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email
  address.
 
 Definitely @fedoraproject.org email addresses. A lot of us use them
 even in Bugzilla, all my packages have the fp.o address in %changelog.
 I dont want to fiddle around when i change my real email address.
 Just pop in to FAS and change it there, done.

Another consideration in favor of using @fedoraproject.org emails is if
you use real emails, they will be used for old commits, even when that's
not historically accurate.

We went with @src.gnome.org addresses for the GNOME git conversion
because we didn't want, say, 5 years of work someone did at company A
show up as commits from u...@companyb.com because that's where they work
now.

- Owen

(We actually did something a little fancier at that - if the log message
for the CVS/SVN commit contained something that looked like a ChangeLog
entry with an obvious email address, then we used that as the Author and
the @src.gnome.org only as the Committer. If we couldn't determine a
plausible Author, then we used the @src.gnome.org address for both.)




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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-11 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 08:12 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
 
 And let me put it this way: if fedora decides to post my non @fp.o address 
 somewhere, like in git entries, I'm going to be extremely pissed off about 
 it.
 

I think this would depend on what gets configured for your git client
for fedora package repos, probably another file in .fedora/.

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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-11 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Simon Schneebeli writes:


Hello all,

After having used Ubuntu since almost more than three years, I decided 
to give Fedora a try. The installation went perfectly fine. Everything 
was perfectly recognised. Now I face one big problem: I can't manage to 
connect to the internet.


Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection with 
my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired connection. Ping 
works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme manage to establish a 
connection.


Define ping works.

Define manage to establish a network connection.

Any idea what the problem may be? I guess you need additional 
information. Which one exactly?


The starting point would be the exact error message you are getting from 
Firefox.





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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-11 Thread Simon Schneebeli

Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Simon Schneebeli writes:


Hello all,

After having used Ubuntu since almost more than three years, I 
decided to give Fedora a try. The installation went perfectly fine. 
Everything was perfectly recognised. Now I face one big problem: I 
can't manage to connect to the internet.


Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection 
with my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired 
connection. Ping works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme 
manage to establish a connection.


Define ping works.

If I type at the command line ping google.com it gets an answer...


Define manage to establish a network connection.
When I change network connection from wireless to wired, a popup tells 
me connection established and the icon in the toolbar says connected...


Any idea what the problem may be? I guess you need additional 
information. Which one exactly?


The starting point would be the exact error message you are getting 
from Firefox.

Need to restart into fedora to check this out. Give me two minutes...

Simon





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Re: Help: No internet connection

2009-12-11 Thread Simon Schneebeli
Firefox simply tells me: Server not found. Firefox can't find the 
server at start.fedoraproject.org.


I really have no idea what the problem might be.

Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Simon Schneebeli writes:


Hello all,

After having used Ubuntu since almost more than three years, I 
decided to give Fedora a try. The installation went perfectly fine. 
Everything was perfectly recognised. Now I face one big problem: I 
can't manage to connect to the internet.


Through the network connection, I manage to establish a connection 
with my wireless ADSL model. It also works through a wired 
connection. Ping works. But neither Firefox nor any other programme 
manage to establish a connection.


Define ping works.

Define manage to establish a network connection.

Any idea what the problem may be? I guess you need additional 
information. Which one exactly?


The starting point would be the exact error message you are getting 
from Firefox.





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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-10 Thread Sir Gallantmon
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:

 I'm currently playing with a utility called parsecvs to convert our cvs
 stuff into git.  This utility can also translate the raw usernames that
 CVS has into more useful names+email addresses that you'd typically get
 out of git.  But to make this conversion it needs a translation file.

 It would be really helpful if somebody could generate a file for me that
 is in the format of:

 username=firstname lastname email

 eg:

 jkeating=Jesse Keating jkeat...@fedoraproject.org
 notting=Bill Nottingham nott...@fedoraproject.org

 For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org
 domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about
 whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email
 address.

 Should be easy enough to get a list of users from FAS for this purpose.
 Thanks in advance!

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Is it even possible to get a listing of all the users so such a file could
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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-10 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 22:00 -0600, Sir Gallantmon wrote:
 Is it even possible to get a listing of all the users so such a file could
 be generated?
 

FAS should provide this information.

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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-10 Thread Seth Vidal



On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Jesse Keating wrote:


I'm currently playing with a utility called parsecvs to convert our cvs
stuff into git.  This utility can also translate the raw usernames that
CVS has into more useful names+email addresses that you'd typically get
out of git.  But to make this conversion it needs a translation file.

It would be really helpful if somebody could generate a file for me that
is in the format of:

username=firstname lastname email

eg:

jkeating=Jesse Keating jkeat...@fedoraproject.org
notting=Bill Nottingham nott...@fedoraproject.org

For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org
domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about
whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email
address.



I just did this on fedorapeople.org not against fas but I suspect that's 
the same set of users.


#!/usr/bin/python -tt

import pwd

for pw in pwd.getpwall():
if pw.pw_uid  1:
continue
msg='%s=%s %...@fedoraproject.org' % (pw.pw_name, pw.pw_gecos,
  pw.pw_name)
print msg


the file with these contents is in my homedir on fedorapeople.org as: 
wacky-list-for-git


if you want me to do it directly talking to fas I'll do it in the morning.
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Re: Help wanted with dist-cvs to git conversion

2009-12-10 Thread Conrad Meyer
On Thursday 10 December 2009 09:12:46 pm Seth Vidal wrote:
 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009, Jesse Keating wrote:
  I'm currently playing with a utility called parsecvs to convert our cvs
  stuff into git.  This utility can also translate the raw usernames that
  CVS has into more useful names+email addresses that you'd typically get
  out of git.  But to make this conversion it needs a translation file.
 
  It would be really helpful if somebody could generate a file for me that
  is in the format of:
 
  username=firstname lastname email
 
  eg:
 
  jkeating=Jesse Keating jkeat...@fedoraproject.org
  notting=Bill Nottingham nott...@fedoraproject.org
 
  For the initial testing, just giving every user a @feodraproject.org
  domain would be sufficient, however we should have a discussion about
  whether to use this email address or to use the user's real email
  address.
 
 I just did this on fedorapeople.org not against fas but I suspect that's
 the same set of users.
 
 #!/usr/bin/python -tt
 
 import pwd
 
 for pw in pwd.getpwall():
  if pw.pw_uid  1:
  continue
  msg='%s=%s %...@fedoraproject.org' % (pw.pw_name, pw.pw_gecos,
pw.pw_name)
  print msg
 
 
 the file with these contents is in my homedir on fedorapeople.org as:
 wacky-list-for-git
 
 if you want me to do it directly talking to fas I'll do it in the morning.
 -sv

A script that grabs the entries from FAS, and outputs everything as UTF-8 
files:

  http://konradm.fedorapeople.org/usernamelist.py

Results with FAS emails (in my $HOME on fedorapeople.org):

  FAS-users-normalemails

or fedoraproject.org emails:

  FAS-users-fedoraprojectemails

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