Re: Fedora Moblin remix
On 11/05/2009 07:01 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, For those interested there's a new test LiveCD of Fedora Moblin remix [1] for those that are interesting in playing. It would be nice to have some feedback on good or bad issues with it. There's been almost 1300 downloads since I announced the last one but I've had no feedback what so ever and while I'd like to assume that's because its perfect I doubt that is the case. Enjoy! Peter [1] http://fedora.roving-it.com/FedoraMoblin12-Beta2-LiveCD.iso As a side note the old one has been renamed to the following to make it easier to identify. http://fedora.roving-it.com/FedoraMoblin12-Beta1-LiveCD.iso I downloaded at the livecd and booted it on my T60 http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_1b38e7a8-4ef5-478b-89d5-97f0ebf135be The interface was work and looked very nice, but it looked like the network applet was crached, so i couldn't connect to my wireless network :( abrt had a crash report on network-manager-netbook, but i could not submit it because i had not network connection. Thanks for the nice work ! Tim -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Kernel installs not showing up in grub.conf
Am 2009-11-06 20:00, schrieb Ahmed Kamal: Seems like I'm hitting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530108 since I'm btrfs root. The updated grubby seems not pushed out yet On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to mailto:br...@wolff.to wrote: On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 16:08:05 +0200, The firmware warnings are not part of your problem. grubby fatal error: unable to find a suitable template This sounds like none of the entries in grub are close enough to what the package was expecting so it doesn't know how to make one for the current kernel. One way to do this is to move grub.conf out of the way and install a new kernel. You may want to customize the parameters again. We also have the annoying problem of having a menu.lst AND a grub.conf file. Reported here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533265 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
nonresponsive maintainer for clamtk
Hi, The clamtk package has not been updated since February 2009. One of the two bugs opened against it is a missing dependency which prevents it from running at all. Unfortunately, it has been rebuilt for F12 with the same missing dependency, so it will not run there either. I have tried emailing the current maintainer but that has gone unanswered. Bugzilla # 530709 has been opened as per the unresponsive maintainer procedure. I would like to become the maintainer for this package (although I am not yet an existing Fedora contributor). Thanks, Dave -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rawhide report: 20091107 changes
Compose started at Sat Nov 7 08:15:11 UTC 2009 Updated Packages: anaconda-12.46-1.fc12 - * Fri Nov 06 2009 David Cantrell dcantr...@redhat.com - 12.46-1 - Correct modopts initialization in loader (take 2) (#531932). (dcantrell) gdm-2.28.1-24.fc12 -- * Fri Nov 06 2009 Ray Strode rstr...@redhat.com 2.28.1-24 - Fix login button after cancel on livecd gnome-python2-extras-2.25.3-13.fc12.2 - * Fri Nov 06 2009 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com - 2.25.3-13.2 - Bump again on F12 for release, avoiding gecko update * Thu Nov 05 2009 Jan Horak jho...@redhat.com - 2.25.3-13 - Rebuild against newer gecko lynx-2.8.6-23.fc12 -- * Fri Nov 06 2009 Jiri Moskovcak jmosk...@redhat.com - 2.8.6-23 - removed dependency on indexthml - changed default homepage to start.fedoraproject.org Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Fedora security updates to full disclosure ?
Hello, Like all major Linux distro, I really think Fedora should push security updates information to full disclosure mailing list ... Cheers. -- Jérôme Benoit aka fraggle La Météo du Net - http://grenouille.com OpenPGP Key ID : 9FE9161D Key fingerprint : 9CA4 0249 AF57 A35B 34B3 AC15 FAA0 CB50 9FE9 161D pgplwF9A5VTxU.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora security updates to full disclosure ?
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 14:44 +0100, Jerome Benoit wrote: Hello, Like all major Linux distro, I really think Fedora should push security updates information to full disclosure mailing list ... What do you mean? The info for security updates is pushed to fedora-package-announce just as for normal updates. For instance: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-November/thread.html -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora security updates to full disclosure ?
Le Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:04:53 +0200, Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org a écrit : What do you mean? The info for security updates is pushed to fedora-package-announce just as for normal updates. For instance: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-November/thread.html Gentoo, Ubuntu, Debian and other distro push them on also on full disclosure mailing list. It's useful for security people to have a central point to lurk in order to know when fixes are pushed on major and community driven Linux distribution... http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Jan/index.html Regards. -- Jérôme Benoit aka fraggle La Météo du Net - http://grenouille.com OpenPGP Key ID : 9FE9161D Key fingerprint : 9CA4 0249 AF57 A35B 34B3 AC15 FAA0 CB50 9FE9 161D pgp7L0AcwxlSR.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora security updates to full disclosure ?
On 11/07/2009 07:49 PM, Jerome Benoit wrote: Le Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:04:53 +0200, Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org a écrit : What do you mean? The info for security updates is pushed to fedora-package-announce just as for normal updates. For instance: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-November/thread.html Gentoo, Ubuntu, Debian and other distro push them on also on full disclosure mailing list. It's useful for security people to have a central point to lurk in order to know when fixes are pushed on major and community driven Linux distribution... http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Jan/index.html I see a lot of posts about war and terror compared to security issues. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora security updates to full disclosure ?
Le Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:51:46 +0530, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org a écrit : I see a lot of posts about war and terror compared to security issues. security people hate moderation, of any kind. You can't survive on this list without a properly tuned killfile but it's anyway a central security list with a lot of very useful gems, just one example : http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/fulldisclosure/2009-08/0174.html Bye. -- Jérôme Benoit aka fraggle La Météo du Net - http://grenouille.com OpenPGP Key ID : 9FE9161D Key fingerprint : 9CA4 0249 AF57 A35B 34B3 AC15 FAA0 CB50 9FE9 161D pgpXIOG79AVmO.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
cvs-import.sh problem
Hi, CVS branches for my first package were created couple of days ago. Today I've set up my account (I think correctly), did a successful checkout, but I can't import sources: code [jaros...@moonstone mpdscribble]$ ./common/cvs-import.sh -b F-11 -m Initial import (#477542) ../../mpdscribble-0.18.1-1.fc12.src.rpm Checking out module: 'mpdscribble' Unpacking source package: mpdscribble-0.18.1-1.fc12.src.rpm... L mpdscribble-0.18.1.tar.bz2 A mpdscribble.init.d A mpdscribble.spec Checking : mpdscribble-0.18.1.tar.bz2 on https://cvs.fedoraproject.org/repo/pkgs/upload.cgi... ERROR: could not check remote file status make: *** [upload] Błąd 255 ERROR: Uploading the source tarballs failed! /code Is it me doing sth. wrong (or not configured properly)? Please help me, thanks, -- Jarosław Górny RHCE -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: cvs-import.sh problem
2009/11/7 Jarosław Górny jaros...@aster.pl: Hi, CVS branches for my first package were created couple of days ago. Today I've set up my account (I think correctly), did a successful checkout, but I can't import sources: code [jaros...@moonstone mpdscribble]$ ./common/cvs-import.sh -b F-11 -m Initial import (#477542) ../../mpdscribble-0.18.1-1.fc12.src.rpm Checking out module: 'mpdscribble' Unpacking source package: mpdscribble-0.18.1-1.fc12.src.rpm... L mpdscribble-0.18.1.tar.bz2 A mpdscribble.init.d A mpdscribble.spec Checking : mpdscribble-0.18.1.tar.bz2 on https://cvs.fedoraproject.org/repo/pkgs/upload.cgi... ERROR: could not check remote file status make: *** [upload] Błąd 255 ERROR: Uploading the source tarballs failed! /code Is it me doing sth. wrong (or not configured properly)? Please help me, It looks OK to me. Try going to the root dir of the package and doing another 'cvs update'. Then change into F-11 (or which ever one) and then I would do a ../common/cvs-import.sh ~/path/to/pacakge.rpm then a 'cvs update' then 'make build' and take it from there. I would generally do that on devel and then just copy source .cvsignore and package.rpm to the various branches from there. Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum repolist puzzle
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, yum repolist on the latest rawhide shows fedora and updates repo as having the exact same number of packages which is rather confusing but I suppose it is because they get redirected by mirror manager to point to the same repo. Can we just show the candidate updates or something more meaningful? talk to releng and MM. -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum repolist puzzle
On 11/07/2009 09:26 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, yum repolist on the latest rawhide shows fedora and updates repo as having the exact same number of packages which is rather confusing but I suppose it is because they get redirected by mirror manager to point to the same repo. Can we just show the candidate updates or something more meaningful? talk to releng and MM. Tibbs filed https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1800 Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: cvs-import.sh problem
Hi, Dnia sobota 07 listopad 2009 o 16:41:22 Peter Robinson napisał(a): 2009/11/7 Jarosław Górny jaros...@aster.pl: (...) but I can't import sources: Checking : mpdscribble-0.18.1.tar.bz2 on https://cvs.fedoraproject.org/repo/pkgs/upload.cgi... ERROR: could not check remote file status make: *** [upload] Błąd 255 ERROR: Uploading the source tarballs failed! /code It looks OK to me. Try going to the root dir of the package and doing another 'cvs update'. Then change into F-11 (or which ever one) and then I would do a ../common/cvs-import.sh ~/path/to/pacakge.rpm then a 'cvs update' then 'make build' and take it from there. I would generally do that on devel and then just copy source .cvsignore and package.rpm to the various branches from there. Unfortunatelly 'cvs update' didn't help. I've tried running cvs-import.sh directly from branch directory (F-11 and also devel), result always the same. any other suggestions? Please ;) -- Jarosław Górny RHCE -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
missing help files for Evolution and Nautilus in F12 Beta?
In F12, the GNOME Help Program (I think it's called Yelp, now?) shows an error when trying to access Help in either Nautilus or Evolution. Do these programs not have help available? Or has it simply not been packaged for the F12 beta? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: missing help files for Evolution and Nautilus in F12 Beta?
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 11:48 -0500, Jud Craft wrote: In F12, the GNOME Help Program (I think it's called Yelp, now?) shows an error when trying to access Help in either Nautilus or Evolution. Do these programs not have help available? Or has it simply not been packaged for the F12 beta? The help browser has been called yelp for quite a number of years, not exactly a recent change... The help files for evolution are in the package evolution-help, the help files for nautilus (and the rest of the desktop infrastructure) are in the package gnome-user-docs. Both are not on the live CD for size reasons. We'll include them when we switch to targeting a larger USB stick. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora security updates to full disclosure ?
On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 02:44:18PM +0100, Jerome Benoit wrote: Hello, Like all major Linux distro, I really think Fedora should push security updates information to full disclosure mailing list ... As someone who has spent years spamming Bugtraq full-disclosure with Gentoo security advisories, I was initially in favor of sending Fedora security notices there. However, in their current state, I don't think that they are useful to many. We have a hard enough time getting package maintainers to enter *anything* about their updates, let alone security-related details such as severity, impact, workarounds, resolution, etc. I think that if we were to do a better job of encouraging/facilitating this, /then/ I would be in favor of spamming other lists. With the Bodhi v2.0 rewrite that I'm currently working on, I'm going to be adding more security tracking features into the core of the platform. I'm hoping to make it not only easier to track security issues, but also announce them in a way that is useful to others. If you're interested in helping to improve our security tracking/update process, we could use the help. luke pgpopvcFCKryR.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: source file audit - 2009-11-01
On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 11:06:14 -0700, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:57:42 -0600 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 17:18:16 -0700, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote: Here's attached another run of my sources/patches url checker. bruno:BADURL:glest_data_3.2.1.zip:glest-data I took over glest recently and hadn't had to worry about where the sources had come from yet. The next time I make a change I'll be sure to make sure that the source URLs are accurate. Excellent. Thanks. I tried grabbing http://dl.sf.net/glest/glest_data_3.2.1.zip and it seemed to work. The actual URL in the spec file has the %version macro. Is the macro or something with sourceforge the problem? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Ubuntu shows updates / security updates on shell logins
* James Antill ja...@fedoraproject.org [20091106 16:14]: On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 16:50 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Newly installed Ubuntu 9.10, when you log in over ssh you may see: 34 packages can be updated. 10 updates are security updates. I think this is a nice feature, because many administrators will log in to servers remotely over ssh and never see the graphical indications from packagekit et al. Actually I was trying to work out how it's implemented. The text goes into /etc/motd, and as near as I can tell, the Ubuntu update-manager (roughly equivalent of PackageKit) rewrites it whenever packages become available or get installed. Is this something that PackageKit could also do? FWIW, I've added a summary-updateinfo command to the increasingly misnamed security plugin. Takes all the same options as list-updateinfo / info-updateinfo, but just prints a small summary: % yum -q summary-updateinfo Updates Info Summary: 6 Security update(s) 56 Bugfix update(s) 10 Enhancement update(s) % yum -q summary-updateinfo new Updates Info Summary: 706 New Package update(s) % ...putting that in motd, or whatever, is your fight :). Which can be trivially cron'ed. Then the Match parameter can be equally trivially set up in sshd_config for root / selected administrative users to display a separate motd to everyone else. Addresses the security concerns and provides a useful feature. No? -- Anders Rayner-Karlsson and...@trudheim.co.uk All-Round Linux Tinkerer, RHCE and PITA DeLuxe -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RPM dependency on cron
Am 2009-11-06 14:40, schrieb Benny Amorsen: We have a lot of virtualized (OpenVZ) Fedora servers. Until now I have avoided running cron inside each server; log rotation is done from the host. This has worked rather well until lately. Unfortunately rpm has acquired a dependency on crontabs, because it adds a file to /etc/cron.daily. In turn, crontabs depends on /etc/cron.d, which is provided by cronie. cronie explicitly depends on anacron. And thus, anacron and cronie are required for all Fedora installations. The really nasty thing is that cronie turns itself on when installed! Can't you turn it off? I suddenly had an extra logrotate running which rotated logs in a way not consistent with our policy. I'm not sure where it's easiest to cut this chain. I'd be tempted to make crontabs provide /etc/cron.d and make cronie depend on crontabs. That way rpm would pull in crontabs but nothing more. /Benny -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: yum repolist puzzle
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 21:27 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/07/2009 09:26 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi, yum repolist on the latest rawhide shows fedora and updates repo as having the exact same number of packages which is rather confusing but I suppose it is because they get redirected by mirror manager to point to the same repo. Can we just show the candidate updates or something more meaningful? talk to releng and MM. Tibbs filed https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1800 Rahul We wanted to get some testing on the new updates repos before enabling them to the world, that's why they redirects haven't been updated. Hopefully we'll be good to go on those on Monday. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Introduction and kickstart
Hi All, My name is Vivek Shah FAS account bonii. I am C,C++, Java developer from India. I also work on Unix/Linux system administration and web app development using Python and Java. I am also a package maintainer for the Fedora project for the past 1 year. I would like to be of help to the Fedora infrastructure group in the most suitable way. Since I am not completely aware of which FIG would suit me most and where I could be most useful, I would not like to jump to any conclusions. Please guide me about the best way possible for me to contribute. Thanks and Regards, Vivek ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Introduction and kickstart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hello vivek, The best place to start would be the #fedora-admin irc channel. Every from the infrastructure team will be there. Come on by and say hello :) Regards Jose Vivek Shah wrote: Hi All, My name is Vivek Shah FAS account bonii. I am C,C++, Java developer from India. I also work on Unix/Linux system administration and web app development using Python and Java. I am also a package maintainer for the Fedora project for the past 1 year. I would like to be of help to the Fedora infrastructure group in the most suitable way. Since I am not completely aware of which FIG would suit me most and where I could be most useful, I would not like to jump to any conclusions. Please guide me about the best way possible for me to contribute. Thanks and Regards, Vivek ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEUEARECAAYFAkr2bpwACgkQ68U/vco3DlI0BQCfVDTwmCDe/lVNEytsIqOIs3d5 inQAl2tGp1il6j/dz8Z9GDfzgeBMJUc= =ITAN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
[Fedora-legal-list] Combining copyrights on Erlang source files
A question occurred to me after doing a review recently about whether Erlang source is compiled and linked together like C source or whether the source files remain separate like, say, Python. The issue is an Erlang package where some source files are LGPLv3+ but one is GPLv2+. I took the safe route and assumed that the final result is GPLv3+, but unfortunately I don't quite know enough about either Erlang or the actual legal threshold at which the sources are considered to be commingled. When I look at the compiled application, it looks as if each of the .erl files gets turned into a .beam file, and those files look to be kept separate in the final package. The ticket, with a package you can build, is at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502991 - J ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Combining copyrights on Erlang source files
Hello All! 2009/11/7 Jason L Tibbitts III ti...@math.uh.edu: A question occurred to me after doing a review recently about whether Erlang source is compiled and linked together like C source or whether the source files remain separate like, say, Python. The issue is an Erlang package where some source files are LGPLv3+ but one is GPLv2+. I took the safe route and assumed that the final result is GPLv3+, but unfortunately I don't quite know enough about either Erlang or the actual legal threshold at which the sources are considered to be commingled. When I look at the compiled application, it looks as if each of the .erl files gets turned into a .beam file, and those files look to be kept separate in the final package. Well, I've got some erlang experience, so I could say something here. To illuminate the situation with Erlang and different licensing scheme for its modules, I would like to describe some basics of erlang binaries. * Every erlang binary is made from the only source file, and none of them has two or more sources of origin (include statement does work like similar directive in C/C++, although direct copying of other valid erlang *.erl file is not possible - so they do independent of each other). * Every binary file is self-sufficient entity and doesn't require that other modules must exist (however the proper work in this case would be highly unlikely). Erlang virtual machine doesn't use any kind of (pre)linking. Modules completely independent from each other, although may include mentioning/invocation of each other (say, ModuleA can call ModuleB:MethodB - in this case virtual machine tries to load ModuleB, execute MethodB and return the result into ModuleA (or error/exception).Think of this mechanism as of highly upgraded man 3 exec). * Modules can be dynamically loaded/unloaded/replaced by new ones by demand (even from/to another host via network). Feel free to ask me for other details. From my PoV (IANAL), erlang library/program with sources, released under different licences, should be marked in spec-file as License: LicenseA and LicenseB and LicenseC -- With best regards, Peter Lemenkov. ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
[Fedora-legal-list] Does the AGPL impose packaging requirements?
Does Fedora as a distro need to package AGPL (v3, if it matters) software in any specific way to meet the requirements of the license? Or do we simply provide a package (and src.rpm) and leave it up to the person installing the software to make sure they comply? - J ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: Is it me or is the list going NUTS? (Old messages are appearing new)
Is it me or is the list going NUTS?, ie., Antonio Seems I get similar from the fedora-list, my messages seem to have to be moderated and often don't get posted till days later when th thread has gone. I generally don't bother to reply to community Assistance, etc any more, You probably won't get this reply. Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
libflashplayer.so
After firefox update got message about old flashplayer. I have installed latest version of it and it's situated /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins. Now Firefox is using nswrapper_32_32.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32 whic is quite old. How can I change FF to use latest libflashpayer.so? Jarmo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is it me or is the list going NUTS? (Old messages are appearing new)
On 11/07/2009 05:26 PM, Tom H wrote: If it is me? Scratching my head, then I'll take a pill and go to sleep and forget that all of this is happening :) Are you on thunderbird, F11 ? Do you sort by thread on the mailing list traffic ? Thunderbird 3 changed to sorting by date order based on the most recent message that comes to a thread (very annoying). It used to always be based on the oldest message in each thread to provide the thread sort order. I thought it was a bug: (and it should at least be configurable). https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=495946 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
shutdown problem -
After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same when next shutdown. Am I alone in this? Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: shutdown problem -
Bob Goodwin wrote: After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same when next shutdown. Am I alone in this? I don't know if you are alone. I just know that I'm not in the same situation. Just shutdown my recently updated F11 system without problem. I don't run fail2banso can't tell you if that is your culprit. -- Life may have no meaning, or, even worse, it may have a meaning of which you disapprove. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: shutdown problem -
On 07/11/09 05:55, Ed Greshko wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same when next shutdown. Am I alone in this? I don't know if you are alone. I just know that I'm not in the same situation. Just shutdown my recently updated F11 system without problem. I don't run fail2banso can't tell you if that is your culprit. Ok, thanks for the response. I will disable fail2ban and have another go at it. But first the morning chores, dogs to walk, hungry horses, etc.. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: shutdown problem -
On 07/11/09 05:55, Ed Greshko wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same when next shutdown. Am I alone in this? I don't know if you are alone. I just know that I'm not in the same situation. Just shutdown my recently updated F11 system without problem. I don't run fail2banso can't tell you if that is your culprit. The only way I found to disable fail2ban was yum remove. Did that and the problem cleared, the shutdown runs as usual again. I have a second F-11 computer, similar to this one which I will update and see what happens with it. I believe I also installed fail2ban on it. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
I upgraded from CentOS-5.3 to CentOS-5.4 (and earlier from CentOS-5.2 to CentOS-5.3) just by running yum update. Why can't I upgrade to Fedora-12 like that? Is it just that the CentOS makers are cleverer...? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
On 11/07/2009 06:51 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I upgraded from CentOS-5.3 to CentOS-5.4 (and earlier from CentOS-5.2 to CentOS-5.3) just by running yum update. Why can't I upgrade to Fedora-12 like that? Is it just that the CentOS makers are cleverer...? CentOS is just a rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Since there is no point release of Fedora, you have to compare a upgrade from say CentOS 4.x to CentOS 5.x. Other than that, I have continued to use yum (and other times using preupgrade) to upgrade to new releases of Fedora and they have worked fine. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
Timothy Murphy wrote: I upgraded from CentOS-5.3 to CentOS-5.4 (and earlier from CentOS-5.2 to CentOS-5.3) just by running yum update. Why can't I upgrade to Fedora-12 like that? Is it just that the CentOS makers are cleverer...? No. When CentOS-6 is released, a yum update on a CentOS-5 box won't update you to 6. You will be able to use yum to update, but it won't be a supported method, much like with Fedora. There are folks here who have updated from Fedora 1 all the way through Fedora 11 using yum. It's possible with a little effort, but it's not supported. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Process and Procedure are the last hiding place of people without the wit and wisdom to do their job properly. pgpbwI4ah0P5R.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: There is an application called createrepo available which will create the repo based on then RPMs in a directory. This should be a good place to start. I've used it before with any problems. But couldn't yum just have an option to look for RPMs on the local network? Ie look first in local cache, then on LAN, then at remote repo. I would have thought that would be easy to implement. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
Timothy Murphy wrote: But couldn't yum just have an option to look for RPMs on the local network? Ie look first in local cache, then on LAN, then at remote repo. I would have thought that would be easy to implement. It's trivial to change the yum repo settings to look anywhere you want. It's also possible to become a private mirror and have the default fedora mirrorlists return your own site when clients within your netblock request updates. See How can someone make a private mirror? at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring, which I believe was already mentioned in this thread. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ life, n.: A whim of several billion cells to be you for a while. pgpoUuIpqf9qB.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
I am one guy I am upgrading since fc1 now with f12 There are folks here who have updated from Fedora 1 all the way through Fedora 11 using yum. It's possible with a little effort, but it's not supported. Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn/google talk/sip: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
On Saturday 07 November 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: I upgraded from CentOS-5.3 to CentOS-5.4 (and earlier from CentOS-5.2 to CentOS-5.3) just by running yum update. Why can't I upgrade to Fedora-12 like that? Is it just that the CentOS makers are cleverer...? Actually, that's exactly how I upgraded to F11 from F10. Fedora noticed that there was an updated version of Fedora available and asked if I wanted to upgrade. I said sure, so it downloaded all the RPMs and upgraded me. No more wipe and reload any more! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is it me or is the list going NUTS? (Old messages are appearing new)
Hi Antonio; On Fri, 2009-11-06 at 18:28 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear fellow fedora users, Is it me or is the list going NUTS?, ie., the thread Should I go 64 bit Fedora just came in from the Original poster, wheras I have seen many replies already to this thread. Is something wrong with the dates, I have November 6, 2009 and this thread message was sent November 2. May I ask what is happenning here? I post a message and it appears much much later :(, What in cronos is going on? If it is me? Scratching my head, then I'll take a pill and go to sleep and forget that all of this is happening :) I had the same problem a couple of weeks ago. I started a discussion here and after several posts back and forth the problem went away without figuring out the cause. It happened again on one post a few days ago. If you check the archives for posts not yet received and the message headers, the non-delivery of mail will seem random. If you can figure out what is causing the problem, let us know. -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 23.1.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
Todd Zullinger wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: But couldn't yum just have an option to look for RPMs on the local network? Ie look first in local cache, then on LAN, then at remote repo. I would have thought that would be easy to implement. It's trivial to change the yum repo settings to look anywhere you want. Concretely, I want yum to look first in /var/cache/yum/updates on my laptop, then in alfred:/var/cache/yum/updates on a local machine, and then in the remote repository. What exactly can I put in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo to implement this? It's also possible to become a private mirror and have the default fedora mirrorlists return your own site when clients within your netblock request updates. See How can someone make a private mirror? at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring, which I believe was already mentioned in this thread. I've looked at a couple of the sites mentioned in this thread, and I am afraid the instructions are simply too complicated to follow. (The document you mention seems to have over 100 pages, which to me is information over-kill.) -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
Rahul Sundaram wrote: I upgraded from CentOS-5.3 to CentOS-5.4 (and earlier from CentOS-5.2 to CentOS-5.3) just by running yum update. Why can't I upgrade to Fedora-12 like that? Is it just that the CentOS makers are cleverer...? CentOS is just a rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Since there is no point release of Fedora, you have to compare a upgrade from say CentOS 4.x to CentOS 5.x. Well, the change from CentOS-5.n to CentOS-5.n+1 seems to occur about as often as Fedora-m to Fedora-m+1. Hopefully, CentOS-6 will not come in my lifetime. (I'm quite old.) Other than that, I have continued to use yum (and other times using preupgrade) to upgrade to new releases of Fedora and they have worked fine. I was rather unsuccessful with preupgrade from Fedora-10 to Fedora-11; I think it worked on 1 out of 4 machines. It was much more successful (for me) with Fedora-9 to Fedora-10. I'll try it with Fedora-12 but I'm not too hopeful ... -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
John Aldrich wrote: I upgraded from CentOS-5.3 to CentOS-5.4 (and earlier from CentOS-5.2 to CentOS-5.3) just by running yum update. Why can't I upgrade to Fedora-12 like that? Is it just that the CentOS makers are cleverer...? Actually, that's exactly how I upgraded to F11 from F10. Fedora noticed that there was an updated version of Fedora available and asked if I wanted to upgrade. I said sure, so it downloaded all the RPMs and upgraded me. What do you mean by Fedora asked? Do you mean Yum? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
Timothy Murphy wrote: Concretely, I want yum to look first in /var/cache/yum/updates on my laptop, then in alfred:/var/cache/yum/updates on a local machine, and then in the remote repository. Why would you want yum to look in /var/cache/yum/updates on the local system? The only thing that should be there are things already installed. Or do you install and remove things frequently? The /var/cache/yum dirs do not contain a repodata dir, so I don't know if yum can use them as an entry in a baseurl option directly or not. If not, you'd just want to run createrepo on the packages dir and then add something like baseurl=file:///var/cache/yum/updates/packages Personally, I think that's a bunch of work for little gain. If you enough systems that need updates and you don't have bandwidth for them all to update individually, you'd be better off using rsync to create a local mirror or setting up something like IntelligentMirror. I've looked at a couple of the sites mentioned in this thread, and I am afraid the instructions are simply too complicated to follow. (The document you mention seems to have over 100 pages, which to me is information over-kill.) I'm sorry that the information isn't presented in small enough bites for your taste. The section on creating a private mirror is only a few paragraphs and links to IntelligentMirror if you'd rather check that out. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me. -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980) pgpdUabmYV299.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 09:22 -0500, John Aldrich wrote: On Saturday 07 November 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: I upgraded from CentOS-5.3 to CentOS-5.4 (and earlier from CentOS-5.2 to CentOS-5.3) just by running yum update. Why can't I upgrade to Fedora-12 like that? Is it just that the CentOS makers are cleverer...? Actually, that's exactly how I upgraded to F11 from F10. Fedora noticed that there was an updated version of Fedora available and asked if I wanted to upgrade. I said sure, so it downloaded all the RPMs and upgraded me. Presumably you're talking about the Package Manager. yum on its own isn't going to ask you if you want to upgrade Fedora. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 14:56 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: Todd Zullinger wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: But couldn't yum just have an option to look for RPMs on the local network? Ie look first in local cache, then on LAN, then at remote repo. I would have thought that would be easy to implement. It's trivial to change the yum repo settings to look anywhere you want. Concretely, I want yum to look first in /var/cache/yum/updates on my laptop, then in alfred:/var/cache/yum/updates on a local machine, and then in the remote repository. What exactly can I put in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo to implement this? yum install yum-plugin-priorities poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
On 11/07/2009 08:33 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Well, the change from CentOS-5.n to CentOS-5.n+1 seems to occur about as often as Fedora-m to Fedora-m+1. That's because RHEL has a longer lifecyle. No surprise there. I was rather unsuccessful with preupgrade from Fedora-10 to Fedora-11; I think it worked on 1 out of 4 machines. It was much more successful (for me) with Fedora-9 to Fedora-10. Did you file any bug reports? Fedora has a shorter lifecycle, no point updates and software changes far more often. This naturally does mean that you have to upgrade more often as well. If you are willing to spend sometime testing and reporting bugs, it will help us resolve the issues. There is really magic bullet to solve upgrade problems. We are getting better at it however. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
On Saturday 07 November 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: What do you mean by Fedora asked? Do you mean Yum? Yes. Actually, I believe it was the auto update tool (which seems to not work so well on my system... but running yum update a couple times a week does the same thing! G) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
On 11/07/2009 08:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 09:22 -0500, John Aldrich wrote: On Saturday 07 November 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: I upgraded from CentOS-5.3 to CentOS-5.4 (and earlier from CentOS-5.2 to CentOS-5.3) just by running yum update. Why can't I upgrade to Fedora-12 like that? Is it just that the CentOS makers are cleverer...? Actually, that's exactly how I upgraded to F11 from F10. Fedora noticed that there was an updated version of Fedora available and asked if I wanted to upgrade. I said sure, so it downloaded all the RPMs and upgraded me. Presumably you're talking about the Package Manager. yum on its own isn't going to ask you if you want to upgrade Fedora. Here it how this works: When there is a new release of Fedora, GNOME PackageKit or specifically gpk-update-icon which is the update notifier prompts you to upgrade with a notification on your desktop http://packagekit.org/img/gpk-distro-upgrade-notify.png If you agree, in Fedora, it will call preupgrade to perform the actual upgrade. This works starting from Fedora 10 onwards. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Concretely, I want yum to look first in /var/cache/yum/updates on my laptop, then in alfred:/var/cache/yum/updates on a local machine, and then in the remote repository. What exactly can I put in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo to implement this? yum install yum-plugin-priorities Thanks. I've installed that, but haven't worked out how to use it to make yum look on my local network ... -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
Todd Zullinger wrote: Concretely, I want yum to look first in /var/cache/yum/updates on my laptop, then in alfred:/var/cache/yum/updates on a local machine, and then in the remote repository. Why would you want yum to look in /var/cache/yum/updates on the local system? I just assumed that yum did look there first (I don't think yum goes to the remote repository if the RPM is already in the local directory?), and I was suggesting that a second option should be added. The only thing that should be there are things already installed. Or do you install and remove things frequently? I install frequently, but remove rarely. I've looked at a couple of the sites mentioned in this thread, and I am afraid the instructions are simply too complicated to follow. (The document you mention seems to have over 100 pages, which to me is information over-kill.) I'm sorry that the information isn't presented in small enough bites for your taste. The section on creating a private mirror is only a few paragraphs and links to IntelligentMirror if you'd rather check that out. I don't think I really want to create a private mirror, which sounds rather complicated. The default of running yum update on my small menagerie is quite acceptable; any alternative would have to be almost as simple. As to supplying information in small bites, that is indeed probably what I want. A document that contains the answer to every question in the universe is only slightly more useful than a document that contains nothing. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Errors from ata6:00 -- How to find corresponding device?
I'm getting tons of messages in /var/log/messages about 'ata6' or
'ata6:00':
Nov 7 11:16:21 concord3 kernel: ata6.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0
SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
Nov 7 11:16:21 concord3 kernel: ata6.00: cmd
a0/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0
Nov 7 11:16:21 concord3 kernel: cdb 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Nov 7 11:16:21 concord3 kernel: res
40/00:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x4 (timeout)
Nov 7 11:16:21 concord3 kernel: ata6.00: status: { DRDY }
Nov 7 11:16:21 concord3 kernel: ata6: soft resetting link
Nov 7 11:16:21 concord3 kernel: ata6.00: configured for PIO0
Nov 7 11:16:21 concord3 kernel: ata6: EH complete
The problem is that I can't figure out which device this corresponds to.
The possibilities are /dev/sd[a-c] (3 sata 500G drives) or /dev/sr0
(sata dvd writer).
What does the 6 or 6:00 correspond to? It doesn't appear to be a major
or minor device number, or correspond to any entries in /sys that I can
find. If the 6 is not the device (but rather the driver version or
something), is there any part of these messages that indicate which
device is associated with the error?
Any pointers appreciated!--
-Chris
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Re: anyone install android 2.0 sdk on 64-bit fedora?
On 10/27/2009 01:52 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: given the first release of android 2.0, has anyone out there successfully installed that on a 64-bit fedora? specifically, fedora 11 or (hopefully equivalently) fedora 12 beta. I have the emulator running. I have not compiled any applications yet though. Fedora 11 x86_64 machine. I do not have Sun Java installed. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: shutdown problem -
On 07/11/09 05:55, Ed Greshko wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: After yesterday's F-11 updates I was unable to shutdown this computer. It proceeded normally to stopping fail2ban and then just stopped there. I held the power button in to shutdown, rebooted and got the same result a second time. Control Alternate Delete had no effect. I shut down and went to bed. I expect it will do the same when next shutdown. Am I alone in this? I don't know if you are alone. I just know that I'm not in the same situation. Just shutdown my recently updated F11 system without problem. I don't run fail2banso can't tell you if that is your culprit. I updated the second computer and it displays the same problem. The system stops at Stopping fail2ban and I have no control after that. About all it does it acknowledge Control-Alt-Delete pressed! I can bring up another terminal and it asks me to loin but does not accept keystrokes. I will have to remove fail2ban in order to restore normal operation ... Oh-ho, it finally appears to have recovered and is now presenting me with a login screen. I logged in and entered poweroff and it is stuck at stopping fail2ban again. It stayed there six minutes and then shut down normally from that point. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 21:11 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/07/2009 08:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 09:22 -0500, John Aldrich wrote: On Saturday 07 November 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: I upgraded from CentOS-5.3 to CentOS-5.4 (and earlier from CentOS-5.2 to CentOS-5.3) just by running yum update. Why can't I upgrade to Fedora-12 like that? Is it just that the CentOS makers are cleverer...? Actually, that's exactly how I upgraded to F11 from F10. Fedora noticed that there was an updated version of Fedora available and asked if I wanted to upgrade. I said sure, so it downloaded all the RPMs and upgraded me. Presumably you're talking about the Package Manager. yum on its own isn't going to ask you if you want to upgrade Fedora. Here it how this works: When there is a new release of Fedora, GNOME PackageKit or specifically gpk-update-icon which is the update notifier prompts you to upgrade with a notification on your desktop http://packagekit.org/img/gpk-distro-upgrade-notify.png If you agree, in Fedora, it will call preupgrade to perform the actual upgrade. This works starting from Fedora 10 onwards. That's fine. All I was trying to establish is that asking the question isn't a function of yum as such, but of Package Kit, which uses yum to do the actual upgrade. I can't be bothered with PK so I just use preupgrade on my own (or download a DVD). poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 15:46 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Concretely, I want yum to look first in /var/cache/yum/updates on my laptop, then in alfred:/var/cache/yum/updates on a local machine, and then in the remote repository. What exactly can I put in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo to implement this? yum install yum-plugin-priorities Thanks. I've installed that, but haven't worked out how to use it to make yum look on my local network ... yum doesn't know anything about looking on your local network. You still have to set up a repo and point to it. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE or Firefox desktop switching problem.problem?
On 11/07/09 00:35, quoth Ed Greshko: Steven W. Orr wrote: I'm on F10 + Firefox 3.5.4 that I got from http://blog.famillecollet.com/ + Thunderbird-2.0.0.23 Also, I did an update so I'm running kde 4.3.2. Well. I am sorry I'm not running F10 and I don't normally do non-standard updates/upgrades. But, FWIW, I've got an instance of F11 running with FF 3.5.4 and TBird 3.0-2.8.b4. Here's the problem. I'm in tbird on desktop 1 with firefox running in desktop 2, and a message has a URL in it. I click on the URL in tbird which causes the URL to load in the firefox on desktop 2. But now for some reason that I can't figure out, firefox pops over to desktop 1. If I click and quickly switch to desktop 2 then I can usually get there before firefox pops over to desktop 1. Tbird on DT1, FF on DT2. Click on the link in Tbird and the link is displayed in FF on DT2 and I'm switched to DT2 to view. That is FF stays on DT2 and my focus is simply switched to there. If I have Preferred Applications--Internet--Web Browser set to FF and I've checked Open in new window the link will open a new FF window in DT1. Is that how you have things set up? Can someone tell me if this is a firefox problem or a kde problem? I'm sorry, I have no idea where you're starting from Preferred Applications--Internet--Web Browser Is this tbird, ff, or kde? I don't see that path from either of them. -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Per user installs?
What if, for example, a specific user preferred an application, say, Amarok v1.4 and yet another user prefers Amarok v2.0? I surmise that only one package of the same application can be installed in the /usr/share directory? The other question is, can a per-user installation be made available to all users from /usr/share and when the application is started by the user could be prompted to which version they desire without smashing the latest version which is installed in the normal installation areas? It is one thing to install a per-user installation to the user's home directory, but this could be inefficient as each user could potentially fill up valuable disk space and in this case, it might be better to install at /usr/share instead of each and every user's home directory? The point is, when installing a package, does the user have the option to choose where the package is to be installed, and/or what mode this installation should entail so that the above scenarios are possible? If this is already possible, how is it done? Thanks- Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Point Update [was Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?]
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 20:45 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: ... Did you file any bug reports? Fedora has a shorter lifecycle, no point updates and software changes far more often... I'm not familiar with the terms point update and point release, which R.S. used in an earlier message. What do they mean? Thanks - jon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Point Update [was Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?]
On 11/07/2009 01:38 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 20:45 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: ... Did you file any bug reports? Fedora has a shorter lifecycle, no point updates and software changes far more often... I'm not familiar with the terms point update and point release, which R.S. used in an earlier message. What do they mean? They refer to an update or release of a number which contains a non-zero after the decimal point. An update from, say, 5.4 to 5.5 would be a point update, whereas an update from 5.4 to 6.0 would not. 5.5 would be a point release. 6.0 would not. Thanks - jon -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Concretely, I want yum to look first in /var/cache/yum/updates on my laptop, then in alfred:/var/cache/yum/updates on a local machine, and then in the remote repository. What exactly can I put in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo to implement this? yum install yum-plugin-priorities Thanks. I've installed that, but haven't worked out how to use it to make yum look on my local network ... yum doesn't know anything about looking on your local network. You still have to set up a repo and point to it. In that case, I'm not clear how yum-plugin-priorities would help. I see that there is a yum-downloadonly package, which I just installed. This adds an option --downloadonly. I assume that you can then later run yum update, and it will install or update the packages that were downloaded, as well as any other new ones. If that is so, then it seems to imply that yum looks first in /var/cache/yum/ to see if required packages are already downloaded. If it finds them there then it uses them; otherwise it downloads them from a remote repository. That being so, my question is: why not allow yum to look at what yum has saved on another computer? I notice that after installing the yum-downloadonly package, there is another new option --downloaddir=DLDIR which seems to allow RPMs (and other files in /var/cache/yum/ ?) to be installed in a specified directory. It's not clear to me if yum will remember this new directory if I use both these options --downloadonly and --downloaddir=OLDIR ? Or will I have to specify --downloaddir again when updating? Is all this a possible way of saving RPMs on a /common directory served by NFS? I suspect I may have misunderstood the basics of yum ... -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:15:09 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: That's fine. All I was trying to establish is that asking the question isn't a function of yum as such, but of Package Kit, which uses yum to do the actual upgrade. I can't be bothered with PK so I just use preupgrade on my own (or download a DVD). There is an intermediate choice. You can disable the automatic checking, put the launcher for gpk-update-viewer on a panel, and click that at your convenience; I do, more or less daily. Then, when a new release has been out for a week or so, I use preupgrade -- at *my* convenience, just like the updates. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that gpk-update-viewer also has an upgrade function; being comfortable with my compromise, I haven't bothered to look. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: shutdown problem -
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:38:44 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: [] I updated the second computer and it displays the same problem. The system stops at Stopping fail2ban and I have no control after that. About all it does it acknowledge Control-Alt-Delete pressed! I can bring up another terminal and it asks me to loin but does not accept keystrokes. I will have to remove fail2ban in order to restore normal operation ... Oh-ho, it finally appears to have recovered and is now presenting me with a login screen. I logged in and entered poweroff and it is stuck at stopping fail2ban again. It stayed there six minutes and then shut down normally from that point. I've gotten out of the habit of CLI shutdowns; instead, I click the little power button icon on my panel, and choose either Shutdown or Reboot. That works fine. Iirc, the last few times I tried Ctrl-Alt-Delete on any computer (even one running XP), what it did was not shut down, but reboot. That's one large reason I got out of the habit. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
ffmpeg and libfaac support
The latest update from rpmfusion of ffmpeg dropped support for libfaac. the changelog mentions it * Thu Oct 22 2009 Dominik Mierzejewski rpm at greysector.net - 0.5-3 - dropped workaround for non-standard openjpeg headers location - Add BR dirac vdpau. (kwizart) - Don't build faac by default because it's nonfree. (kwizart) - fixed PowerPC builds (bug 808) Do we have an alternative? What's the point? I see that ffmpeg still supports mp3. I thought it was not free either. Andrea -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ffmpeg and libfaac support
On 11/08/2009 01:58 AM, Andrea wrote: The latest update from rpmfusion of ffmpeg dropped support for libfaac. the changelog mentions it * Thu Oct 22 2009 Dominik Mierzejewski rpm at greysector.net - 0.5-3 - dropped workaround for non-standard openjpeg headers location - Add BR dirac vdpau. (kwizart) - Don't build faac by default because it's nonfree. (kwizart) - fixed PowerPC builds (bug 808) Do we have an alternative? What's the point? I see that ffmpeg still supports mp3. I thought it was not free either. Common confusion. MP3 decoders are free and open source but patent encumbered in some regions and hence included in the free repository of RPM Fusion https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Software_Patents The non-free repository of RPM Fusion has proprietary (in terms of copyright licensing) software packages. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
SQLite error popup
Recently, I've started to get occasional pop-ups (in GNOME) with the message: SQLite Version Error The application has been updated, but your version of SQLite is too old and the application cannot run. I have no idea what application is being referred to, although it seems to happen in conjunction with either some NetworkManager event or some Evolution crash (both of those seem to happen together with some frequency. I use the Exchange connector in Evolution. Anybody seen this? Anybody have any idea what it might be? TIA. This is an up-to-date F11 system, with a few updates-testing packages. The ones that seem like they might be relevant: sqlite-3.6.12-3.fc11.x86_64 evolution-debuginfo-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-rss-debuginfo-0.1.4-6.fc11.x86_64 evolution-data-server-debuginfo-2.26.3-2.fc11.x86_64 evolution-help-2.26.3-1.fc11.noarch evolution-exchange-debuginfo-2.26.3-2.fc11.x86_64 evolution-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-perl-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-mapi-debuginfo-0.26.2-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-spamassassin-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-data-server-2.26.3-2.fc11.x86_64 evolution-mapi-0.26.2-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-rss-0.1.4-6.fc11.x86_64 evolution-bogofilter-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-exchange-2.26.3-2.fc11.x86_64 NetworkManager-vpnc-0.7.0.99-1.fc11.x86_64 NetworkManager-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.x86_64 NetworkManager-pptp-0.7.0.99-1.fc11.x86_64 NetworkManager-glib-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.x86_64 NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.x86_64 -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Wine or Fedora display problem?
I'm running Garmin Mapsource in Wine under F11. When I clicked on Help and told it to check for updates, it did downloads of 6.15.6.0 for about a minute, then popped up another window telling me to click on an Install button -- but Wine or Fedora 11 or something fails to display the button, and hitting Enter instead doesn't work either. rpm -q wine wine-1.1.29-1.fc11.i586 I closed the app, did a Wine boot, and tried again. This time it popped up a different message, saying there was trouble accessing the downloaded files. I closed the app again, and did another Wine boot. It did the download over -- and then got the other error again. This has happened three or four times in a row, each, with MetroGuideUSA and with Topo2008 in the display. I posted the problem to the Wine list, and got no replies. I tried on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, and got none there either. Maybe it's a Fedora problem??? Is there a fix? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Why can't I launch qgis??
I have [b...@hbsk2 ~]$ rpm -q qgis qgis-1.0.2-1.fc11.i586 [b...@hbsk2 ~]$ or equivalent on all four of the Fedora 11 PCs on my desk -- and none of them can seem to launch it. Not with the GUI (by clicking the launcher, which shows a Q transfixed by an arrow pointing NE), nor yet from the CLI (by commanding qgis as user or as root). Any guesses why not? There is a little more detail at http://forum.qgis.org/viewtopic.php?f=3t=4969 but no answer there, either. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 19:01 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: it seems to imply that yum looks first in /var/cache/yum/ to see if required packages are already downloaded. If it finds them there then it uses them; otherwise it downloads them from a remote repository. In a sense, it does. If the package is available in the cache, yum doesn't download it, again. However, when looking for updates, it first looks at the repo data, which lists what packages are available (i.e. what's new). That's something that you won't have locally, unless you've grabbed it from somewhere else. Personally, I find the simple HTTP/FTP caching approach with Squid is the simplest: You configure your yums, on all machines, to use just one mirror, and to fetch through your proxy. Squid caches what you get. And you only download, and cache, the packages that you actually use. Some of the local mirroring options involve blindly downloading every update that's released. Whether, or not, you use that package. For me, that'd be a huge waste of bandwidth and drive space. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Per user installs?
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 10:20 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: What if, for example, a specific user preferred an application, say, Amarok v1.4 and yet another user prefers Amarok v2.0? I surmise that only one package of the same application can be installed in the /usr/share directory? Not necessarily... For example, my Fedora 9 box has the following in its /usr/share/ directory, and I didn't arrange this: drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-11-06 02:40 audacity drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2008-11-06 02:40 audacity13 You can see something similar with various versions of Java in there. There'll be a symlink pointing to a particular binary to run, that will run your default. And you'd pick the other version by running a different binary file, or different symlink. ll /usr/bin/audacity* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4993764 2008-08-23 14:22 /usr/bin/audacity -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3965112 2008-08-23 14:22 /usr/bin/audacity13 And the Gnome menu has them both listed separately. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: anyone install android 2.0 sdk on 64-bit fedora?
On 11/07/2009 12:26 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 10/27/2009 01:52 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: given the first release of android 2.0, has anyone out there successfully installed that on a 64-bit fedora? specifically, fedora 11 or (hopefully equivalently) fedora 12 beta. I have the emulator running. I have not compiled any applications yet though. Fedora 11 x86_64 machine. I do not have Sun Java installed. I've just used Fedora Eclipse to compile and run a Hello World in the emulator. 2 things: I had to enable more than the default update sites in Eclipse. I don't recall what the default actually is, but I have the following now: * Fedora Eclipse JDT * Fedora Eclipse SDK * Ganymede Update Site * The Eclipse Project Updates Configure the emulator for an SD card of at least 16 MB or you will get an inscrutable error trying to start it. Woogie -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I launch qgis??
Beartooth wrote: I have [b...@hbsk2 ~]$ rpm -q qgis qgis-1.0.2-1.fc11.i586 [b...@hbsk2 ~]$ or equivalent on all four of the Fedora 11 PCs on my desk -- and none of them can seem to launch it. Not with the GUI (by clicking the launcher, which shows a Q transfixed by an arrow pointing NE), nor yet from the CLI (by commanding qgis as user or as root). Any guesses why not? There is a little more detail at http://forum.qgis.org/viewtopic.php?f=3t=4969 but no answer there, either. Well, just as a bit of FYI, I didn't have qgis installed. So, I installed to test Downloading Packages: (1/18): blas-3.2.1-3.fc11.i586.rpm | 349 kB 00:02 (2/18): cfitsio-3.130-4.fc11.i586.rpm | 1.4 MB 00:07 (3/18): fftw2-2.1.5-18.fc11.i586.rpm| 376 kB 00:01 (4/18): gdal-1.6.0-8.fc11.i586.rpm | 7.5 MB 00:43 (5/18): geos-3.0.3-2.fc11.i586.rpm | 475 kB 00:03 (6/18): gpsbabel-1.3.6-2.fc11.i586.rpm | 578 kB 00:03 (7/18): grass-libs-6.3.0-12.fc11.i586.rpm | 1.0 MB 00:06 (8/18): gsl-1.12-3.fc11.i586.rpm| 842 kB 00:04 (9/18): hdf5-1.8.3-1.fc11.i586.rpm | 1.5 MB 00:12 (10/18): libdap-3.8.2-3.fc11.i586.rpm | 469 kB 00:02 (11/18): libgeotiff-1.2.5-4.fc11.i586.rpm | 724 kB 00:03 (12/18): librx-1.5-12.fc11.i586.rpm | 33 kB 00:00 (13/18): netcdf-4.0.1-1.fc11.i586.rpm | 680 kB 00:05 (14/18): ogdi-3.2.0-0.13.beta2.fc11.i586.rpm| 274 kB 00:01 (15/18): proj-4.6.1-2.fc11.i586.rpm | 163 kB 00:00 (16/18): qgis-1.0.2-1.fc11.1.i586.rpm | 5.8 MB 00:47 (17/18): unixODBC-2.2.14-2.fc11.i586.rpm| 475 kB 00:02 (18/18): xerces-c-2.8.0-5.fc11.i586.rpm | 1.3 MB 00:11 --- Total 148 kB/s | 24 MB 02:45 download, installed, and then launched without problem. FWIW, I had installed from an ssh session and then logged in to F11 under KDE to test. -- When I left you, I was but the pupil. Now, I am the master. - Darth Vader Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
Tim wrote: Personally, I find the simple HTTP/FTP caching approach with Squid is the simplest: You configure your yums, on all machines, to use just one mirror, and to fetch through your proxy. Squid caches what you get. And you only download, and cache, the packages that you actually use. You convinced me to start squid, but unfortunately after reading my trusty tutorial, http://www.brennan.id.au/11-Squid_Web_Proxy.html, and looking through /etc/squid/squid.conf , I decided the chances of my making a mistake, and cutting off my family from the internet, was too high to risk. I do realise that it would be good to run squid on my server, but as I said it seems a risky enterprise. Is it possible to use squid just for yum, say, as an experimental start? Some of the local mirroring options involve blindly downloading every update that's released. Whether, or not, you use that package. For me, that'd be a huge waste of bandwidth and drive space. That was exactly what I felt about setting up a mirror, which as far as I could see meant mirroring the official repository. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wine or Fedora display problem?
Beartooth wrote: I'm running Garmin Mapsource in Wine under F11. When I clicked on Help and told it to check for updates, it did downloads of 6.15.6.0 for about a minute, then popped up another window telling me to click on an Install button -- but Wine or Fedora 11 or something fails to display the button, and hitting Enter instead doesn't work either. rpm -q wine wine-1.1.29-1.fc11.i586 I closed the app, did a Wine boot, and tried again. This time it popped up a different message, saying there was trouble accessing the downloaded files. I closed the app again, and did another Wine boot. It did the download over -- and then got the other error again. This has happened three or four times in a row, each, with MetroGuideUSA and with Topo2008 in the display. I posted the problem to the Wine list, and got no replies. I tried on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, and got none there either. Maybe it's a Fedora problem??? Is there a fix? I was going to download and testbut saw this... WARNING: This software will not work unless you already own a MapSource product. And I don't own any MapSource products. Is every Windows app known to work with wine? -- cellular telephone interference Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wine or Fedora display problem?
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:30:34 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: Is every Windows app known to work with wine? Every app I've ever tried has NOT worked. I often wonder what I'm doing wrong. One thing I see a lot is that using the scrollbar appears to run the scrolled contents through a shredder. Dragging things leaves a wake in whatever I dragged over. In no time flat, windows are rendered unreadable. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
On Sun, 2009-11-08 at 00:13 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: You convinced me to start squid, but unfortunately after reading my trusty tutorial, http://www.brennan.id.au/11-Squid_Web_Proxy.html, and looking through /etc/squid/squid.conf , I decided the chances of my making a mistake, and cutting off my family from the internet, was too high to risk. I do realise that it would be good to run squid on my server, but as I said it seems a risky enterprise. Is it possible to use squid just for yum, say, as an experimental start? If you set up TCP/IP redirection rules to force everything to go through a proxy (transparent proxying), then yes, you can cause networking problems for people, as some things just do not work through proxies. But, if you just install Squid, and don't do anything else than install a proxy, then only the things that you deliberately configure to use a proxy, will use it. Everything else will carry on, as before. Firefox, for example, won't use a proxy unless you configure it to do so. There are various ways to set it to use one. * You can simply enter the proxy server addresses into the configuration. * You can tell it to read a proxy configuration script (JavaScript PAC files), which might be a local file, or one on a local web server. Letting you use just one file to tweak all sorts of proxy-related things, and you'll only have to modify that one file if your proxying needs change in the future. * It's also possible to use auto proxy configuration with various browsers, where they'll look for a proxy configuration file in certain expected locations - such as a proxy address supplied by a DHCP server, or looking for a wpad.dat file in the root of a webserver with a wpad subdomain and the same domain name as the computer's. But, if they don't find that file, they don't use any proxy. It is the cause of some browser start-up delays with some browsers, as the first thing they do is try to find that configuration file. Though the current Firefox's defaults aren't set to to work that way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Proxy_Autodiscovery_Protocol You do, of course, still have to configure the proxy so it allows the things you want it to do. -- The gates in my computer are AND, OR and NOT; they are not Bill. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the ultimate fedora laptop?
I've been pretty happy with my Dell Latitude E6400. I bought mine from their outlet store. If you go that way, look for one with Intel wireless rather than Dell wireless (Intel vs Broadcom chipset) and Intel or AMD video. The E6400 has a Core 2 Duo which is 64bit and supports hw virtualization. It supports up to 8GB of RAM. No HDMI, but it has DisplayPort, which is probably a better long-term bet (and VGA). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Multiple FC11 Update Failures - Kernel 2.6.30.9-96.fc11
Has anyone experienced kernel update failures when updating to various versions of kernel 2.6.30.9-96.fc11? I have 3 different hardware platforms that all experience issues when updating to different versions of 2.6.30.9-96.fc11. All seem to halt when loading this kernel. Observation of Console output shows drm console output and previous bootlogs from known working kernels say EXT4 should be the next console messages. When loading 2.6.30.9-96.fc11 I never, repeat NEVER, see the EXT4 console messages and the machine never finish booting. I have waited in some cases as long as 15 minutes just to give the new kernel a fair chance to load. The only recouce I have when this kernel loading failure occurs is to Ctrl-Alt-Del, reboot, and select the older kernel from the GRUB menu. Since I have to reboot the systems to get them working again, I don't know of any way to capture console output when the loading of the new kernel stalls, so opening a Bugzilla case isn't worth the effort (no way to help the developers if I can't provide any console output). I am open to any non-destructive ideas that do not require any complicated hardware setups to gather additional data to sort out this issue. Platform #1 Hardware: Jetway J7F4K1G5S-LF Memory: 1GB Purpose: router Current kernel (uname -r): 2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i686.PAE Platform #2 Hardware: unknown Intel Atom 230 mobo in AcerNAS 340 chassis Memory: 2GB Purpose: file server Current kernel (uname -r): 2.6.30.8-64.fc11.x86_64 Platform #3 Hardware: Asus M3A78 Pro Memory: 8GB Purpose: workstation and VMware host Current kernel (uname -r): 2.6.29.4-167.fc11.x86_64 The only common thread I can find in all three systems is the following filesystem format setups: /boot runs EXT3 / runs EXT4 /home runs EXT4 /var runs EXT4 /tmp runs EXT4 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wine or Fedora display problem?
Tom Horsley wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:30:34 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:
Is every Windows app known to work with wine?
Every app I've ever tried has NOT worked. I often
wonder what I'm doing wrong. One thing I see
a lot is that using the scrollbar appears to
run the scrolled contents through a shredder.
Dragging things leaves a wake in whatever I
dragged over. In no time flat, windows are
rendered unreadable.
That was my point. I've had success with many simple apps under wine.
A few more complex ones. Overall I would say mixed results. So, I'm
not sure I'd expect something like Garmin MapSource to runand I'm
not sure I'd expect many folks to have tried it. I did go over the
CrossOver web site and noted they don't have that listed in their
compatibility grid. FWIW, I wouldn't even pose the question Fedora
problem? in the same breath with trying something under wine. :-) :-).
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Re: Multiple FC11 Update Failures - Kernel 2.6.30.9-96.fc11
jrick...@myamigos.us writes: The only common thread I can find in all three systems is the following filesystem format setups: /boot runs EXT3 / runs EXT4 /home runs EXT4 /var runs EXT4 /tmp runs EXT4 Given that EXT4 is a relative newcomer, and you claim that your boot progress halts at the point where you expect the kernel to issue some EXT4 status messages, this strongly suggests EXT4 borkage in this kernel build. These kinds of things happen, from time to time. Your only realistic option is to wait for the next kernel update, and hope that it gets fixed. You may consider opening a bug in Bugzilla; that might help things. If there are multiple reports in Bugzilla pointing the finger at ext4, this should catch someone's attention. You may also consider booting the most recent working kernel with the forcefsck option, to force a fsck on all your ext4 partitions, in the event that your fubarage got triggered by minor filesystem corruption, but that's a long shot. pgpSpOfY0TRh0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Creating a local RPM repository
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 19:01 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Concretely, I want yum to look first in /var/cache/yum/updates on my laptop, then in alfred:/var/cache/yum/updates on a local machine, and then in the remote repository. What exactly can I put in /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo to implement this? yum install yum-plugin-priorities Thanks. I've installed that, but haven't worked out how to use it to make yum look on my local network ... yum doesn't know anything about looking on your local network. You still have to set up a repo and point to it. In that case, I'm not clear how yum-plugin-priorities would help. If you set up a local repo (i.e. a repo on your some other machine on your LAN) then you can give it a higher priority than repos farther afield. I see that there is a yum-downloadonly package, which I just installed. This adds an option --downloadonly. I assume that you can then later run yum update, and it will install or update the packages that were downloaded, as well as any other new ones. If that is so, then it seems to imply that yum looks first in /var/cache/yum/ to see if required packages are already downloaded. If it finds them there then it uses them; otherwise it downloads them from a remote repository. It doesn't look just at the package files but at the package database, but essentially that's what's happening. That being so, my question is: why not allow yum to look at what yum has saved on another computer? Because yum only knows how to talk to repos, which have a specific layout (i.e. they aren't simply a yum cache directory). If the other computer doesn't have its stuff organized as a repo, how is yum going to know what's there? Note that it also has to run a transport demon that yum understands, i.e. http or ftp. I notice that after installing the yum-downloadonly package, there is another new option --downloaddir=DLDIR which seems to allow RPMs (and other files in /var/cache/yum/ ?) to be installed in a specified directory. It's not clear to me if yum will remember this new directory if I use both these options --downloadonly and --downloaddir=OLDIR ? Or will I have to specify --downloaddir again when updating? Is all this a possible way of saving RPMs on a /common directory served by NFS? What you mean is to have your yum cache directory mounted from an NFS server? In principle yes, but I'm not sure about locking issues. I suspect I may have misunderstood the basics of yum ... I suspect you may :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
apache and SNI
I'd like to test SNI on my web server - which is on fedora 10 - as I understand this feature comes with 2.2.12 and later. F10 only has 2.2.11 - short of upgrading the server to 11, is there a way to get an updated web server (and perhaps openssl ?) running on the f10 box ? thanks. (PS = SNI allows multiple virtual https hosts on a single IP). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gdm theme change
I would like to change the color of the gdm window. I have looked through the gdm config files and could not find a reference to a theme. Can someone point me to the right config file or the source file for this. -Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why can't I ugrade Fedora like Centos?
On 11/07/2009 06:51 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I upgraded from CentOS-5.3 to CentOS-5.4 (and earlier from CentOS-5.2 to CentOS-5.3) just by running yum update. Why can't I upgrade to Fedora-12 like that? Is it just that the CentOS makers are cleverer...? While others have pointed out the similarity between upgrading fedora and upgrading CentOS releases (as opposed to upgrading CentOS point releases), allow me to defend fedora against the last comment that you made (maybe in jest, but just the same :)) a. The number of packages in Fedora are larger than in CentOS (I don't know absolute numbers but I'm willing to bet fedora has at least twice the number of packages as CentOS does). This implies that theoretically fedora has at least twice the number of possible points of failure during an upgrade -- of course with good packaging polices this is contained and one barely ever notices the differences between CentOS and Fedora upgrades. b. One of the things Fedora aims for, is to include new technology and innovate as early as possible. This necessarily implies that some things might change drastically between releases. However, the effect of this too is contained by proper packaging policies. c. Fedora is what Red Hat decides to base it's RHEL platform upon. RHEL is what CentOS distributes (after cleaning out the legal hassles to allow them to do so, for instance Red Hat trademarks). So, basically the 'cleverer' CentOS makers are building on top of the work of the Fedora makers, /including/ the tests and bugs coming out of the Fedora community as well as Red Hat's QA team. d. RHEL (and so also CentOS) is designed to be run on production systems, so upgrades (using either yum upgrade or otherwise), undergo more rigorous testing compared to Fedora (which relies on people like us to test at least the beta releases and file bugs, if we expect upgrades to just work). Hope that clarifies a few things about the cleverness of the Fedora 'community'. :) cheers, - steve -- random non tech spiel: http://lonetwin.blogspot.com/ tech randomness: http://lonehacks.blogspot.com/ what i'm stumbling into: http://lonetwin.stumbleupon.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 tour
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/06/2009 10:03 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: - Tablet support gets better with each Fedora release. It might be cool to point out that (1) no xorg.conf is needed for pressure sensitive wacom tablets, they work out of the box (2) xournal is a virtual notebook great for tablets and even without tablets (3) cellwriter is a handwriting recognition application that works great (4) inkscape and gimp of course rock with a tablet ~m I noticed a significant improvement of drawing in Gimp. The lag that was present on Fedora 11 is gone. - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic Web Designer E: l...@fedoraproject.org W: http://www.thefinalzone.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkr1OO0ACgkQaS6HaNQHFTnbvwCffNVZtziJIcGJFBjtsyxRaIXu btcAnjWrcChuEfLAH29nc4GVSLG5B6RC =jHmF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 12 tour
If you feel that we advertise anything that is not a top quality or a cut-edge technologically, it is better to replace it with something else, anything that you consider as a new Desktop user application can replace Empathy. Also as a note, we need to create and freeze a central moto (that has to replace or be included in the first lines ). I will include the nick '*Constantine' * in the page so we have an additional keyword for the engines. Sakis On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga l...@fedoraproject.orgwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/06/2009 10:03 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: - Tablet support gets better with each Fedora release. It might be cool to point out that (1) no xorg.conf is needed for pressure sensitive wacom tablets, they work out of the box (2) xournal is a virtual notebook great for tablets and even without tablets (3) cellwriter is a handwriting recognition application that works great (4) inkscape and gimp of course rock with a tablet ~m I noticed a significant improvement of drawing in Gimp. The lag that was present on Fedora 11 is gone. - -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic Web Designer E: l...@fedoraproject.org W: http://www.thefinalzone.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkr1OO0ACgkQaS6HaNQHFTnbvwCffNVZtziJIcGJFBjtsyxRaIXu btcAnjWrcChuEfLAH29nc4GVSLG5B6RC =jHmF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Virt feature profile as it stands
I will also contribute. Sakis On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Robyn Bergeron robyn.berge...@gmail.comwrote: I'll take a look tonight (in about 8 hours). We just drove from our mountaun town to the city and I have two small children who are bouncing off the walls to go to the new Lego store at the mall, and how can I say no to that?? :) if nobody else beats me to it, I'll whip something up. -robyn On 11/6/09, Mel Chua m...@redhat.com wrote: Sorry for the delay, folks - I thought I was going to be able to finish this in the plane and during my US-based layovers on the way to Singapore, but I just got stuck with a your first plane arrives at the gate after your second plane's stated boarding time situation - waiting to get out of the plane and RUN MADLY right now - so I have to dump and run. Here's what there is right now. I'm going to be splicing this into several separate long profiles during my long flight to Japan. If someone wants to dive through and cherrypick quotes to make a short all-virt-stuff-in-one article (which is what I *should* have done on the plane to Texas), I'll look at this page when I get to my hotel in Singapore and upload the extended versions, and at that point if there's not a short version I'll make one. (That's going to be Sunday night; long plane flights ahead.) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_improvements_in_Fedora_12#Current_draft --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Sent from my mobile device -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Potential press release for Red Hat to distribute
On 11/07/2009 04:55 AM, Max Spevack wrote: We're hoping to make a habit out of putting together more press releases like this -- places where we make a point of focusing, and writing up in a formal way, news items that are important to the Fedora community, so making sure we have good communication back to you and Red Hat PR is important to me. I would certainly love that. I always disliked the fact that press releases of Fedora has been written so far without broader community input and I would like Red Hat to be the facilitator instead with Fedora Marketing team writing it. Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Virt feature profile as it stands
I've put up a bit of framework and I'm currently cherry-picking right now (unfortunately, there will be no cherry pie to eat at the end...bo!). What I'm in process with right now is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_improvements_in_Fedora_12#Interview_Highlights:_Virtualization_Improvements_in_Fedora_12 -robyn On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Athanasios E. Samaras ath.sama...@gmail.com wrote: I will also contribute. Sakis On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Robyn Bergeron robyn.berge...@gmail.com wrote: I'll take a look tonight (in about 8 hours). We just drove from our mountaun town to the city and I have two small children who are bouncing off the walls to go to the new Lego store at the mall, and how can I say no to that?? :) if nobody else beats me to it, I'll whip something up. -robyn On 11/6/09, Mel Chua m...@redhat.com wrote: Sorry for the delay, folks - I thought I was going to be able to finish this in the plane and during my US-based layovers on the way to Singapore, but I just got stuck with a your first plane arrives at the gate after your second plane's stated boarding time situation - waiting to get out of the plane and RUN MADLY right now - so I have to dump and run. Here's what there is right now. I'm going to be splicing this into several separate long profiles during my long flight to Japan. If someone wants to dive through and cherrypick quotes to make a short all-virt-stuff-in-one article (which is what I *should* have done on the plane to Texas), I'll look at this page when I get to my hotel in Singapore and upload the extended versions, and at that point if there's not a short version I'll make one. (That's going to be Sunday night; long plane flights ahead.) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_improvements_in_Fedora_12#Current_draft --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Sent from my mobile device -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Done(ish): Interview Highlights: Virtualization Improvements in Fedora 12
I've written up some of the highlights from Mel's interview with some of the virt team. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_improvements_in_Fedora_12#Interview_Highlights:_Virtualization_Improvements_in_Fedora_12 Please take a gander. I took a few liberties... like capitalization, the use of [words] to summarize parts of a sentence on occasions when I didn't want to use the whole previous sentence / lead-in, changing irc nicks on occasion to full names, fixing spelling errors, etc. (Okay, that's more than a few liberties, I suppose. :D) Also, if anyone has any thoughts on better framing it - I used straight interview quotes summarized by topic headings, rather than doing something more formal along the lines of Mel also spoke with David about XYZ. In any case - feedback would be appreciated, particularly in the area of wow, she totally omitted the MOST IMPORTANT THING said or she totally mangled the meaning there - the most I know about virtualization is what it is and how to spell it, although I did learn quite a bit from the AWESOME interview that was conducted here. I'm also mildly concerned about lengthiness, but I felt that what is here is fairly informative and I didn't want to cut anything good. :) -robyn -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 12 tour
Athanasios E. Samaras wrote: Also as a note, we need to create and freeze a central moto (that has to replace or be included in the first lines ). I will include the nick '/Constantine' / in the page so we have an additional keyword for the engines. The central motto was already decided a while back - it is Unite. ~m -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 12 tour
OK, Sorry I just have a few days that I jumped in. Unite it is then. Still: apart of the Virtualization and Empathy can we promote the usage of F12 for Net-tops and Embedded systems? If so please include a URL for further reading. Thanks Sakis 2009/11/7 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com Athanasios E. Samaras wrote: Also as a note, we need to create and freeze a central moto (that has to replace or be included in the first lines ). I will include the nick '/Constantine' / in the page so we have an additional keyword for the engines. The central motto was already decided a while back - it is Unite. ~m -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Virt feature profile as it stands
I think we have to move highlights Up at the beginning of the article and then leave the detailed transcript. The scope would be to provide an overview and then give the opportunity to anyone to read and decide for them self. Sakis On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Robyn Bergeron robyn.berge...@gmail.comwrote: I've put up a bit of framework and I'm currently cherry-picking right now (unfortunately, there will be no cherry pie to eat at the end...bo!). What I'm in process with right now is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_improvements_in_Fedora_12#Interview_Highlights:_Virtualization_Improvements_in_Fedora_12 -robyn On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Athanasios E. Samaras ath.sama...@gmail.com wrote: I will also contribute. Sakis On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Robyn Bergeron robyn.berge...@gmail.com wrote: I'll take a look tonight (in about 8 hours). We just drove from our mountaun town to the city and I have two small children who are bouncing off the walls to go to the new Lego store at the mall, and how can I say no to that?? :) if nobody else beats me to it, I'll whip something up. -robyn On 11/6/09, Mel Chua m...@redhat.com wrote: Sorry for the delay, folks - I thought I was going to be able to finish this in the plane and during my US-based layovers on the way to Singapore, but I just got stuck with a your first plane arrives at the gate after your second plane's stated boarding time situation - waiting to get out of the plane and RUN MADLY right now - so I have to dump and run. Here's what there is right now. I'm going to be splicing this into several separate long profiles during my long flight to Japan. If someone wants to dive through and cherrypick quotes to make a short all-virt-stuff-in-one article (which is what I *should* have done on the plane to Texas), I'll look at this page when I get to my hotel in Singapore and upload the extended versions, and at that point if there's not a short version I'll make one. (That's going to be Sunday night; long plane flights ahead.) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_improvements_in_Fedora_12#Current_draft --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Sent from my mobile device -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Virt feature profile as it stands
I figured mel would figure out how she needs it - it may need to be a standalone article for press purposes, but I'm not sure, and mel have have more things she wants to do for the full-length interview. On 11/7/09, Athanasios E. Samaras ath.sama...@gmail.com wrote: I think we have to move highlights Up at the beginning of the article and then leave the detailed transcript. The scope would be to provide an overview and then give the opportunity to anyone to read and decide for them self. Sakis On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Robyn Bergeron robyn.berge...@gmail.comwrote: I've put up a bit of framework and I'm currently cherry-picking right now (unfortunately, there will be no cherry pie to eat at the end...bo!). What I'm in process with right now is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_improvements_in_Fedora_12#Interview_Highlights:_Virtualization_Improvements_in_Fedora_12 -robyn On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Athanasios E. Samaras ath.sama...@gmail.com wrote: I will also contribute. Sakis On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Robyn Bergeron robyn.berge...@gmail.com wrote: I'll take a look tonight (in about 8 hours). We just drove from our mountaun town to the city and I have two small children who are bouncing off the walls to go to the new Lego store at the mall, and how can I say no to that?? :) if nobody else beats me to it, I'll whip something up. -robyn On 11/6/09, Mel Chua m...@redhat.com wrote: Sorry for the delay, folks - I thought I was going to be able to finish this in the plane and during my US-based layovers on the way to Singapore, but I just got stuck with a your first plane arrives at the gate after your second plane's stated boarding time situation - waiting to get out of the plane and RUN MADLY right now - so I have to dump and run. Here's what there is right now. I'm going to be splicing this into several separate long profiles during my long flight to Japan. If someone wants to dive through and cherrypick quotes to make a short all-virt-stuff-in-one article (which is what I *should* have done on the plane to Texas), I'll look at this page when I get to my hotel in Singapore and upload the extended versions, and at that point if there's not a short version I'll make one. (That's going to be Sunday night; long plane flights ahead.) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_improvements_in_Fedora_12#Current_draft --Mel -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Sent from my mobile device -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Sent from my mobile device -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Fedora 12 tour
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 01:03 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes Some more ideas for the tour too, but I don't know if they are official features or not and thus would make the tour too long? - Tablet support gets better with each Fedora release. It might be cool to point out that (1) no xorg.conf is needed for pressure sensitive wacom tablets, they work out of the box (2) xournal is a virtual notebook great for tablets and even without tablets (3) cellwriter is a handwriting recognition application that works great (4) inkscape and gimp of course rock with a tablet So I added a section on tablet support. Hope it's okay. Sad to say none of the apps mentioned (gimp, inkscape, cellwriter, xournal) are installed by default - does that mean we can't use the material? I also added a photo for bluetooth headset support. ~m -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: [Fedora-music-list] Fedora Jacklab like spin
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Simon Lewis wrote: Hello Please advise if a multimedia spin for Fedora 11 is available (or for Fedora 12 planned)? The standard Fedora 11 installation does not by default set the RT-PRIO for jackuser or pulse audio etc., etc. Neither does the standard Fedora 11 installation automatically assign all users to the jackusers group. For the multimedia spin to be successful these and the other necessary configuration settings must be taken care of in the background. Alternatively an multimedia administration tool for easy configuration of the pam/usergroup settings in an RT-enviroment should be written. Further, the standard-Kernel and RT-Kernel with same version number should be available form the standard Fedora repository. This practice of having the same version number for all kernel types makes it very easy for graphic driver support etc., and means that Fedora can be booted with either kernel type for testing purposes. Regards, Simon. Hi. Yes there was an idea but I don't think we have enough people to generate and maintain a spin. Moreover I am not sure where the spin should originate: Fedora, RPMFusion or PlanetCCRMA? The latter two has nice packages that we would like the have in the spin, but we can't allow some (if not all) of these packages if the spin is Fedora based. We need ideas, manpower, time etc... Orcan ___ Fedora-music-list mailing list Fedora-music-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list
[Bug 530880] Review Request: ns-tiza-fonts - A Slab-Serif Font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530880 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|nicolas.mail...@laposte.net |john.brown...@gmail.com Flag|fedora-review? |fedora-review+ --- Comment #12 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-11-07 04:30:21 EDT --- Thanks I'm going to approve the package, but please do not forget to reference the licensing file in %doc (don't know if I missed this before or if your removed it since the start of review) ⌚⌚⌚ APPROVED ⌚⌚⌚ I'm going to look at Bola now and sponsor you if Bola's packaging is ok As soon as you're sponsored, you'll be able to continue from: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Font_package_lifecycle#3.a I hope the process was pleasant, and that it will inspire you to package a other fonts for Fedora. Please do not hesitate to suggest improvements to our organisation or documentation on the fonts mailing list. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 530880] Review Request: ns-tiza-fonts - A Slab-Serif Font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530880 --- Comment #13 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-11-07 04:34:46 EDT --- (In reply to comment #10) If Serif is not correct for generic family I will change it to Fantasy, however, I am not sure you see Serif in the file can you confirm that is what you see in the review? Again I ask this because I am concerned we are not working with the same file? I'm behind a proxy. If you upload a file on a web server that sets expiry time to a high value I won't necessarily see the changes (a common way to avoid this is to increment the Release number each time you have a change, numbers are cheap and having several files with the same id is always dangerous Lastly, I always work from the spec in the srpm file -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 530880] Review Request: ns-tiza-fonts - A Slab-Serif Font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530880 --- Comment #14 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-11-07 04:42:57 EDT --- (In reply to comment #11) C. Changed generic family to 'fantasy'. I am assuming rule #1 overrides all other rules in fontconfig-generics.txt. fontconfig-generics.txt is a decision graph. A font could be fantasy and serif and monospace at the same time, so you need common rules for everyone to chose the same category in the same circumstances -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
