Re: I lost my court hearing today -

2005-12-20 Thread Karolyn Lount
Hi, Most cities do have a Limit Law, but they also have a Special
Permit code. Any chance your area has one???




Sanctuary

2005-12-20 Thread Joan Doljan
Has anyone heard of Paradise Garden Animal Haven in Woodhull, N.Y?Thanks,Joan

Jen-- how is Ewok doing?

2005-12-20 Thread Lernermichelle



I have been thinking about him. Symptoms any better?Did 
the vet try the steroid shots? Any talk of using CCNU? Did the last chemo shot 
(the one that starts with E, can't remember the name) do anything?

I am hoping for the best, but worried that things are bad since you have 
not written. Please let us know how he is when you get a chance. We are 
all pulling for him, and for you.

Love,
Michelle


Chandra-- how is Buddha doing?

2005-12-20 Thread Lernermichelle



Thinking of him and hoping he is still feeling better. Please give us an 
update when you geta chance. Having been through the rollercoaster 
of lymphoma several times, I really feel for you and Jen, who has Ewok, and 
think about Buddha and Ewok multiple times throughout the day. I hope he 
is still feeling well, but know there are so many ups and downs. Please 
let us know how he is when you get a chance.
Thinking of the two of you,
Michelle


Re: Sanctuary

2005-12-20 Thread TenHouseCats
i haven't--for what that's worth!
On 12/20/05, Joan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone heard of Paradise Garden Animal Haven in Woodhull, N.Y?

Thanks,

Joan-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892


Re: Sanctuary

2005-12-20 Thread Joan Doljan
Thanks. TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i haven't--for what that's worth!  On 12/20/05, Joan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone heard of Paradise Garden Animal Haven in Woodhull, N.Y?Thanks,Joan-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892

advice needed re half-adopted cat

2005-12-20 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message



Hi 
guys
The 
same good friend who told me about the kitty with litterbox problems that was 
under threat of pts (apparently happily resolved, for now at any rate) updated 
me on another situation. 
Background:
Misha 
is a stray that was sort of taken in by the people who work in a studio at the 
same business complex where my friend works. I say sort of because although two 
of the workers took her to the vet after she was badly attacked, and although 
they feed her, they don't take her home at the weekend: ie no one is actually 
making Misha their responsibility. In the summer and fall Misha would be found 
outside after they had all locked up and gone home for the weekend. When my 
friend, distressed by Misha's situation,offered to try to find Misha a 
home, the studio owner (who my friend saysseems to bea reasonable, 
decent guy) rejected the proposal, saying that they had "adopted" her. Recently 
-- and it is really cold now--- my friend found Misha miaowing in vain at the 
studio door to be let in. My friend knocked on the door, and one of the other 
workers (not the owner) opened it. When she explained the cat needed to come in, 
the response to her was "Haven't you got anything better to 
do?"
Q--where do we go from here? 
If my 
friend justtakes Misha, there's a chance a surveillance camera will record 
the action as it's a business location.Also, even if she did that, when 
she takes her to the vet, what happens if she's been microchipped by those 
people? Is the vet legally/ethically prevented from removing the chip and 
replacing it? Obligated to contact the people? My friend would not be keeping 
Misha as she's allergic to cats; she'd want my help in placing her in the 
shelter whereI have a good contact. Not ideal but she would at least be 
cared for there. However, I'd need to know how to resolve the chip situation 
first.
My 
friend's proposal was to talk to the owner again and try to make him understand 
that someone needs to take proper responsibility for the cat. My feeling was 
that ifshe fails, then she will be the first person he suspects if and 
when shekidnaps Misha. And the scene could turn ugly.
Even 
if I were to find and"rescue" the catwhen I"happen to be 
passing by" at the weekend the microchip Q still arises. (We don't know if she's 
microchipped -- is there a way for a layperson to scan her without vet 
involvement?)
All 
input/info welcome on how Misha gets the care she deserves---I've no experience 
in this field---yet. ButI know some of youheroes 
do.
Kerry
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Re: advice needed re half-adopted cat

2005-12-20 Thread gblane

Hey Kerry-

Chances are the kitty has *not* been microchipped by an owner who won't 
even let her inside when needed - and even if so I doubt if the vet would 
check it unless you asked him/her to.  And if you take her to your vet as 
your cat, well...


I also doubt if talking to the owner again would be useful - might even be 
counter productive.


Sure she can help  this kitty -

Good luck -

Gloria



At 12:37 PM 12/20/2005, you wrote:

Hi guys
The same good friend who told me about the kitty with litterbox problems 
that was under threat of pts (apparently happily resolved, for now at any 
rate) updated me on another situation.

Background:
Misha is a stray that was sort of taken in by the people who work in a 
studio at the same business complex where my friend works. I say sort of 
because although two of the workers took her to the vet after she was 
badly attacked, and although they feed her, they don't take her home at 
the weekend: ie no one is actually making Misha their responsibility. In 
the summer and fall Misha would be found outside after they had all locked 
up and gone home for the weekend. When my friend, distressed by Misha's 
situation, offered to try to find Misha a home, the studio owner (who my 
friend says seems to be a reasonable, decent guy) rejected the proposal, 
saying that they had adopted her. Recently -- and it is really cold 
now--- my friend found Misha miaowing in vain at the studio door to be let 
in. My friend knocked on the door, and one of the other workers (not the 
owner) opened it. When she explained the cat needed to come in, the 
response to her was Haven't you got anything better to do?

Q--where do we go from here?
If my friend just takes Misha, there's a chance a surveillance camera will 
record the action as it's a business location. Also, even if she did that, 
when she takes her to the vet, what happens if she's been microchipped by 
those people? Is the vet legally/ethically prevented from removing the 
chip and replacing it? Obligated to contact the people? My friend would 
not be keeping Misha as she's allergic to cats; she'd want my help in 
placing her in the shelter where I have a good contact. Not ideal but she 
would at least be cared for there. However, I'd need to know how to 
resolve the chip situation first.
My friend's proposal was to talk to the owner again and try to make him 
understand that someone needs to take proper responsibility for the cat. 
My feeling was that if she fails, then she will be the first person he 
suspects if and when she kidnaps Misha. And the scene could turn ugly.
Even if I were to find and rescue the cat when I happen to be passing 
by at the weekend the microchip Q still arises. (We don't know if she's 
microchipped -- is there a way for a layperson to scan her without vet 
involvement?)
All input/info welcome on how Misha gets the care she deserves---I've no 
experience in this field---yet. But I know some of you heroes do.

Kerry





Re: advice needed re half-adopted cat

2005-12-20 Thread janine paton
Kerry, I agree with Gloria - would be surprised if the cat was chipped, at least by the half-adopters.  Can you lure the cat away from the building and out of site of the cameras (for instance - KFC thigh meat, esp warmed so the smell carries might make her walk right into a carrier set behind your car)Janine[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hey Kerry-Chances are the kitty has *not* been microchipped by an owner who won't even let her inside when needed - and even if so I doubt if the vet would check it unless you asked him/her to. And if you take her to your vet as your cat, well...I also doubt if talking to the owner again would be useful - might even be counter productive.Sure she can help this kitty -Good luck
 -GloriaAt 12:37 PM 12/20/2005, you wrote:Hi guysThe same good friend who told me about the kitty with litterbox problems that was under threat of pts (apparently happily resolved, for now at any rate) updated me on another situation.Background:Misha is a stray that was sort of taken in by the people who work in a studio at the same business complex where my friend works. I say sort of because although two of the workers took her to the vet after she was badly attacked, and although they feed her, they don't take her home at the weekend: ie no one is actually making Misha their responsibility. In the summer and fall Misha would be found outside after they had all locked up and gone home for the weekend. When my friend, distressed by Misha's situation, offered to try to find Misha a home, the studio owner (who my friend says seems to be a reasonable,
 decent guy) rejected the proposal, saying that they had "adopted" her. Recently -- and it is really cold now--- my friend found Misha miaowing in vain at the studio door to be let in. My friend knocked on the door, and one of the other workers (not the owner) opened it. When she explained the cat needed to come in, the response to her was "Haven't you got anything better to do?"Q--where do we go from here?If my friend just takes Misha, there's a chance a surveillance camera will record the action as it's a business location. Also, even if she did that, when she takes her to the vet, what happens if she's been microchipped by those people? Is the vet legally/ethically prevented from removing the chip and replacing it? Obligated to contact the people? My friend would not be keeping Misha as she's allergic to cats; she'd want my help in placing her in the shelter where I have a good
 contact. Not ideal but she would at least be cared for there. However, I'd need to know how to resolve the chip situation first.My friend's proposal was to talk to the owner again and try to make him understand that someone needs to take proper responsibility for the cat. My feeling was that if she fails, then she will be the first person he suspects if and when she kidnaps Misha. And the scene could turn ugly.Even if I were to find and "rescue" the cat when I "happen to be passing by" at the weekend the microchip Q still arises. (We don't know if she's microchipped -- is there a way for a layperson to scan her without vet involvement?)All input/info welcome on how Misha gets the care she deserves---I've no experience in this field---yet. But I know some of you heroes do.Kerry  

Re: advice needed re half-adopted cat

2005-12-20 Thread tamara stickler
Chances are good that if the person who has "adopted" Misha doesn't take the cat inside on weekends or evenings, esp. in the winter, that he didn't bother to pay the extra expense to have the cat microchipped.There are two ways to proceed (as I see it), explain to the person that Misha will most likely be attacked again, poisened or hit by a car etcif left unattended. (You can always say that you overheard a few people talking about that "damn cat" and discussing how best to get rid of it.if they ask who, say you didn't know them, but overheard them describing the cat and the fact that it was urinating outside of the buildins...and the were outraged by this...) Explain that not only will this result in horrific pain and fear for the cat, but added expense for the "owner" if the cat manages to drag itself "home". Also explain that should the cat bite or scratch anyone or anyone's pet, or be perceived as having done so,
 even in self defense or while trying to get away from someone who just wanted to "pet the kitty", the "owner" would be held financially or (depending on which state you are in) criminally responsible, as it is unlawful in most states to let you "pets" roam. Explain that an indoor cat is less likely to bring home fleas and other diseases, and how a well fed indoor cat makes an exceptional mouser.2)Call Animal Control to complain about the loose/stray cat in your area. Reports are kept confidential if you request they be. Animal Control will pick up the cat (if it has been microchipped) the owner will be notified and fined. If it hasn't been notified, simply contact the shelter in your area that Animal Control deposits at and "adopt" the cat when it is time, then you can find a better home for it, or your friend with contacts at the shelter might be able too.Good
 luck."MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi guys  The same good friend who told me about the kitty with litterbox problems that was under threat of pts (apparently happily resolved, for now at any rate) updated me on another situation.   Background:  Misha is a stray that was sort of taken in by the people who work in a studio at the same business complex where my friend works. I say sort of because although two of the
 workers took her to the vet after she was badly attacked, and although they feed her, they don't take her home at the weekend: ie no one is actually making Misha their responsibility. In the summer and fall Misha would be found outside after they had all locked up and gone home for the weekend. When my friend, distressed by Misha's situation,offered to try to find Misha a home, the studio owner (who my friend saysseems to bea reasonable, decent guy) rejected the proposal, saying that they had "adopted" her. Recently -- and it is really cold now--- my friend found Misha miaowing in vain at the studio door to be let in. My friend knocked on the door, and one of the other workers (not the owner) opened it. When she explained the cat needed to come in, the response to her was "Haven't you got anything better to do?"  Q--where do we go from here?  
 If my friend justtakes Misha, there's a chance a surveillance camera will record the action as it's a business location.Also, even if she did that, when she takes her to the vet, what happens if she's been microchipped by those people? Is the vet legally/ethically prevented from removing the chip and replacing it? Obligated to contact the people? My friend would not be keeping Misha as she's allergic to cats; she'd want my help in placing her in the shelter whereI have a good contact. Not ideal but she would at least be cared for there. However, I'd need to know how to resolve the chip situation first.  My friend's proposal was to talk to the owner again and try to make him understand that someone needs to take proper responsibility for the cat. My feeling was that ifshe fails, then she
 will be the first person he suspects if and when shekidnaps Misha. And the scene could turn ugly.  Even if I were to find and"rescue" the catwhen I"happen to be passing by" at the weekend the microchip Q still arises. (We don't know if she's microchipped -- is there a way for a layperson to scan her without vet involvement?)  All input/info welcome on how Misha gets the care she deserves---I've no experience in this field---yet. ButI know some of youheroes do.  Kerry=00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe  Maw LLP to be used and
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Re: advice needed re half-adopted cat

2005-12-20 Thread TenHouseCats
i would call around--a humane society/spca would be my first call before animal control--and find out what the laws are in your area. in some places, any outside animal is considered a stray and therefore you can pick it up and take it home. in others, however, that's not the case. in michigan, for example, if you find ANY stray cat or dog you are supposed to call the police or animal control within 48 hours of finding it--theoretically, they are supposed to come and get it from you, you are NOT allowed to keep it yourself and try to place it. in reality, those officials who even know about the law (and a lot of animal control officers in michigan do NOT!), will tell you to place ads in the paper, try to find the owner, and then let you do whatever. a friend found a roaming german shepherd, and did all the correct things--ads in the paper, on petfinder, local rescues; had the dog vetted, and then put it up for adoption. WELL turned out the dog HAD been microchipped when it was adopted from a shelter. part of the agreement with the shelter, of course, was that the dog be neutered--which it hadn't been. the previous owner, thus caught out, went and had charges pressed against my friend for theft--even tho they told the new owners they didn't want the dog and they could keep it. we aren't sure WHY they went after my friend, except maybe for being angry that probably had to pay fines because they hadn't neutered the dog in the first place. nevertheless, my friend was found guilty of not reporting finding said dog, and had to pay fines and court costs...(the dog was later found to have some major congenital illness, which the first owners MAY have known about; the new owners then tried to sue my friend for medical expenses)


ie, make sure you're covered legally, then save the kitty! 
-- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892


Re: advice needed re half-adopted cat

2005-12-20 Thread Kat
Kerry,

Check with some of the animal shelters/animal control officers in the
area.  More and more are being equipped with scanners - so no vet need be
involved just to find out if one is even there.

I like the KFC suggestion - but just in case the owner makes a stink, go
to http://www.alleycat.org/pdf/feral_cat_shelter.pdf to get ideas on how
to build an inexpensive cat shelter to keep the kitty out of the elements.

If the guy doesn't even want an outdoor shelter for the kitty - I would go
with the KFC just off the property, with alot of calling/coaxing/etc.

Good luck!
Kat (Mew Jersey)


On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote:

 Background:
 Misha is a stray that was sort of taken in by the people who work in a
 studio at the same business complex where my friend works. I say sort of
 because although two of the workers took her to the vet after she was
 badly attacked, and although they feed her, they don't take her home at
 the weekend: ie no one is actually making Misha their responsibility. In
 the summer and fall Misha would be found outside after they had all
 locked up and gone home for the weekend. When my friend, distressed by
 Misha's situation, offered to try to find Misha a home, the studio owner
 (who my friend says seems to be a reasonable, decent guy) rejected the
 proposal, saying that they had adopted her. Recently -- and it is
 really cold now--- my friend found Misha miaowing in vain at the studio
 door to be let in. My friend knocked on the door, and one of the other
 workers (not the owner) opened it. When she explained the cat needed to
 come in, the response to her was Haven't you got anything better to
 do?



RE: advice needed re half-adopted cat

2005-12-20 Thread Chris
Title: Message









You know, when I was feeding my strays,
there was a young cat that belonged to a restaurant there. The cat was
always out  the owner said that the cat could come in when he wanted to
but sometimes just didnt want to Of course, when he closed up at
night, he didnt go looking  this poor cat would be out in the
snow. Well, when I picked up the last of the strays, I was tempted to
take the little guy as well but I thought, maybe he wont want to go out
as much if none of the strays are left, theyre going to see me take him,
etc. etc. I checked a couple of times with the owner after that and the
cat was always out but he assured me that he brought it in at
night. Months later I learned the cat had vanished soon after I left
 I have always regretted not taking him right then and there!



People with attitude like that about their
pets dont get them microchipped, they dont even notice the pets
are missing! Go on a weekend and get this cat out of there.





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005
1:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: advice needed re
half-adopted cat





Hi guys





The same good friend who
told me about the kitty with litterbox problems that was under threat of pts
(apparently happily resolved, for now at any rate) updated me on another
situation. 





Background:





Misha is a stray that was
sort of taken in by the people who work in a studio at the same business
complex where my friend works. I say sort of because although two of the
workers took her to the vet after she was badly attacked, and although they
feed her, they don't take her home at the weekend: ie no one is actually making
Misha their responsibility. In the summer and fall Misha would be found outside
after they had all locked up and gone home for the weekend. When my friend,
distressed by Misha's situation,offered to try to find Misha a home, the
studio owner (who my friend saysseems to bea reasonable, decent
guy) rejected the proposal, saying that they had adopted her.
Recently -- and it is really cold now--- my friend found Misha miaowing in vain
at the studio door to be let in. My friend knocked on the door, and one of the
other workers (not the owner) opened it. When she explained the cat needed to
come in, the response to her was Haven't you got anything better to
do?





Q--where do we go from
here? 





If my friend
justtakes Misha, there's a chance a surveillance camera will record the
action as it's a business location.Also, even if she did that, when she
takes her to the vet, what happens if she's been microchipped by those people?
Is the vet legally/ethically prevented from removing the chip and replacing it?
Obligated to contact the people? My friend would not be keeping Misha as she's
allergic to cats; she'd want my help in placing her in the shelter whereI
have a good contact. Not ideal but she would at least be cared for there.
However, I'd need to know how to resolve the chip situation first.





My friend's proposal was
to talk to the owner again and try to make him understand that someone needs to
take proper responsibility for the cat. My feeling was that ifshe fails,
then she will be the first person he suspects if and when shekidnaps
Misha. And the scene could turn ugly.





Even if I were to find
andrescue the catwhen Ihappen to be passing
by at the weekend the microchip Q still arises. (We don't know if she's
microchipped -- is there a way for a layperson to scan her without vet
involvement?)





All input/info welcome on
how Misha gets the care she deserves---I've no experience in this field---yet.
ButI know some of youheroes do.





Kerry








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Re: advice needed re half-adopted cat

2005-12-20 Thread Gloria B. Lane



Darn - that's definitely a worse case senario 
cometrue...

Gloria


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  TenHouseCats 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:32 
  PM
  Subject: Re: advice needed re 
  "half-adopted" cat
  
  i would call around--a humane society/spca would be my first call before 
  animal control--and find out what the laws are in your area. in some places, 
  any outside animal is considered a stray and therefore you can pick it up and 
  take it home. in others, however, that's not the case. in michigan, for 
  example, if you find ANY stray cat or dog you are supposed to call the police 
  or animal control within 48 hours of finding it--theoretically, they are 
  supposed to come and get it from you, you are NOT allowed to keep it yourself 
  and try to place it. in reality, those officials who even know about the law 
  (and a lot of animal control officers in michigan do NOT!), will tell you to 
  place ads in the paper, try to find the owner, and then let you do whatever. a 
  friend found a roaming german shepherd, and did all the correct things--ads in 
  the paper, on petfinder, local rescues; had the dog vetted, and then put it up 
  for adoption. WELL turned out the dog HAD been microchipped when it was 
  adopted from a shelter. part of the agreement with the shelter, of course, was 
  that the dog be neutered--which it hadn't been. the previous owner, thus 
  caught out, went and had charges pressed against my friend for theft--even tho 
  they told the new owners they didn't want the dog and they could keep it. we 
  aren't sure WHY they went after my friend, except maybe for being angry that 
  probably had to pay fines because they hadn't neutered the dog in the first 
  place. nevertheless, my friend was found guilty of not reporting finding said 
  dog, and had to pay fines and court costs...(the dog was later found to have 
  some major congenital illness, which the first owners MAY have known about; 
  the new owners then tried to sue my friend for medical expenses) 
  
  ie, make sure you're covered legally, then save the kitty! 
  
  -- MaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: 
  TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 
  289856892


Re: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat

2005-12-20 Thread Gloria B. Lane

I assume you're in Chicago...


- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Blaisdell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:12 PM
Subject: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat



Due to a change in my employment I need to move to
India for approx 1yr and am having trouble figuring
out what options I have for my FELV cat.  It is pretty
clear to me that I cannot take her with me to India
and have been asking everyone I know or get a chance
to run into if they would want to adopt or just foster
home her without luck.  Now my departure date is
approaching (I have already delayed) and I am getting
desperate trying to figure out good ideas of what I
can do.  Unfortunately the few people I know that show
any interest tend to be the few people that already
have cats and can't have a FELV cat.  I am just
looking for any advice because she has never seemed
sick in the 3yrs since I took her in and I figure if
she has 3+ more they shouldn't be aritificially cut
short.

Some background on her;
3 yrs ago I lived in a neighborhood where this cat had
apparently lived for years on the street.  She was
having litter after litter of kittens and many of
course don't make it on the streets of Chicago.  I was
always very impressed by her toughness and will to
live and even raise kittens under such tough
circumstances and finally a neighbor was able to
capture her so I could try stop the cycle.  I took her
to a place to be fixed and they found she was FELV+. 
I didn't know much about it at the time, but they

wanted to put her to sleep immediately because it is
such a danger to other cats, etc, etc, etc.

Since she seemed so tough in living on the streets and
healthy (if a bit worse for wear) when I brought her
in I refused and said I would just let her live out
whatever time left with me.  I am glad I made that
choice because now 3yrs later she seems healthy and
comfortable.  It is unfortunate she can't have any
company and isn't a lap cat, but considering
everything I think she is comfortable and certainly
has put on weight since the street days.

Now this employment situation is going on and I don't
know what to do.  Between not being a lap cat (but
very cute, quiet, and well trained) and FELV+ it seems
impossible to find a home.  I had hoped the fact that
I am willing to take her back when I can return to the
States would help, but it doesn't seem to.

This Fri I am taking her to a cat vet to get a totally
up to date status on her.  In the meantime I was
hoping maybe this board would provide me with some
ideas, leads, etc.  I really feel between a rock and a
hard place.

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat

2005-12-20 Thread Tad Burnett

Kevin
 Where are you located now ??


Kevin Blaisdell wrote:


Due to a change in my employment I need to move to
India for approx 1yr and am having trouble figuring
out what options I have for my FELV cat.  It is pretty
clear to me that I cannot take her with me to India
and have been asking everyone I know or get a chance
to run into if they would want to adopt or just foster
home her without luck.  Now my departure date is
approaching (I have already delayed) and I am getting
desperate trying to figure out good ideas of what I
can do.  Unfortunately the few people I know that show
any interest tend to be the few people that already
have cats and can't have a FELV cat.  I am just
looking for any advice because she has never seemed
sick in the 3yrs since I took her in and I figure if
she has 3+ more they shouldn't be aritificially cut
short.

Some background on her;
3 yrs ago I lived in a neighborhood where this cat had
apparently lived for years on the street.  She was
having litter after litter of kittens and many of
course don't make it on the streets of Chicago.  I was
always very impressed by her toughness and will to
live and even raise kittens under such tough
circumstances and finally a neighbor was able to
capture her so I could try stop the cycle.  I took her
to a place to be fixed and they found she was FELV+. 
I didn't know much about it at the time, but they

wanted to put her to sleep immediately because it is
such a danger to other cats, etc, etc, etc.

Since she seemed so tough in living on the streets and
healthy (if a bit worse for wear) when I brought her
in I refused and said I would just let her live out
whatever time left with me.  I am glad I made that
choice because now 3yrs later she seems healthy and
comfortable.  It is unfortunate she can't have any
company and isn't a lap cat, but considering
everything I think she is comfortable and certainly
has put on weight since the street days.

Now this employment situation is going on and I don't
know what to do.  Between not being a lap cat (but
very cute, quiet, and well trained) and FELV+ it seems
impossible to find a home.  I had hoped the fact that
I am willing to take her back when I can return to the
States would help, but it doesn't seem to.

This Fri I am taking her to a cat vet to get a totally
up to date status on her.  In the meantime I was
hoping maybe this board would provide me with some
ideas, leads, etc.  I really feel between a rock and a
hard place.

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat

2005-12-20 Thread Kevin Blaisdell
Sorry.  Yes, I am located in Chicago.

--- Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin
   Where are you located now ??
 
 
 Kevin Blaisdell wrote:
 
 Due to a change in my employment I need to move to
 India for approx 1yr and am having trouble figuring
 out what options I have for my FELV cat.  It is
 pretty
 clear to me that I cannot take her with me to India
 and have been asking everyone I know or get a
 chance
 to run into if they would want to adopt or just
 foster
 home her without luck.  Now my departure date is
 approaching (I have already delayed) and I am
 getting
 desperate trying to figure out good ideas of what I
 can do.  Unfortunately the few people I know that
 show
 any interest tend to be the few people that already
 have cats and can't have a FELV cat.  I am just
 looking for any advice because she has never seemed
 sick in the 3yrs since I took her in and I figure
 if
 she has 3+ more they shouldn't be aritificially cut
 short.
 
 Some background on her;
 3 yrs ago I lived in a neighborhood where this cat
 had
 apparently lived for years on the street.  She was
 having litter after litter of kittens and many of
 course don't make it on the streets of Chicago.  I
 was
 always very impressed by her toughness and will to
 live and even raise kittens under such tough
 circumstances and finally a neighbor was able to
 capture her so I could try stop the cycle.  I took
 her
 to a place to be fixed and they found she was
 FELV+. 
 I didn't know much about it at the time, but they
 wanted to put her to sleep immediately because it
 is
 such a danger to other cats, etc, etc, etc.
 
 Since she seemed so tough in living on the streets
 and
 healthy (if a bit worse for wear) when I brought
 her
 in I refused and said I would just let her live out
 whatever time left with me.  I am glad I made that
 choice because now 3yrs later she seems healthy and
 comfortable.  It is unfortunate she can't have any
 company and isn't a lap cat, but considering
 everything I think she is comfortable and certainly
 has put on weight since the street days.
 
 Now this employment situation is going on and I
 don't
 know what to do.  Between not being a lap cat
 (but
 very cute, quiet, and well trained) and FELV+ it
 seems
 impossible to find a home.  I had hoped the fact
 that
 I am willing to take her back when I can return to
 the
 States would help, but it doesn't seem to.
 
 This Fri I am taking her to a cat vet to get a
 totally
 up to date status on her.  In the meantime I was
 hoping maybe this board would provide me with some
 ideas, leads, etc.  I really feel between a rock
 and a
 hard place.
 
 Thanks,
 Kevin
 
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RE: I lost my court hearing today -

2005-12-20 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








I think I can find a NM attorney to sign
off  I also called ALDF and left a message to see if there is an
attorney whom I can talk as you suggested below. If they say no, I will let
you know  thank you again Michelle so much!











From:
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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005
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Subject: Re: I lost my court
hearing today -







Oy veh. Well, it is really
something that the hearing officer said you should appeal it! Really--
that is quite something. I do think you should appeal it, and I think you
ought to call ALDF, tell them it came down to the constitutionality of the pet
limit law, and ask if they can find someone to assist you pro bono by writing a
legal brief or something. At this level, they might take interest.











What exactly was the order? That you have
to give up some of your cats? Is there agreement that things stay as they are
while you appeal to district court?











Hideyo, I am not licensed in NM and so
can not write a brief to submit unless a NM attorney signs off on it, and I
also have no expertise on this or easy access to online law libraries (I do
mostly policy work at this point). You can tell ALDF, if you call them,
who I am and that I am willing to work with another attorney with more
experience on this issue to craft a brief, and see if they can find someone. If
they say no, let me know and I will try calling. I used to be very active
in the organization as a law student.











I think you have a great chance of succeeding.
Was the hearing taped? I should have suggested taping it. If it was taped, you
should geta tape of it and get it transcribed so that you have the
statements of the city on the record about you not being a hoarder and this not
being a nuisance issue of any kind, but just a violation of the letter of this
ordinance with no rational basis.











Did anything come out at the hearing
about them having given you the permit last year? I definitely think you should
argue that point at the district court level as well.











I wish I were closer to you and could get
more involved... it is really making my blood boil!











Do you have any sense of the timeline for
appealing and getting the next hearing? It could be a few months once you file
the appeal...











Michelle










Re: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat

2005-12-20 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Kevin where are you located?Kevin Blaisdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Due to a change in my employment I need to move toIndia for approx 1yr and am having trouble figuringout what options I have for my FELV cat. It is prettyclear to me that I cannot take her with me to Indiaand have been asking everyone I know or get a chanceto run into if they would want to adopt or just fosterhome her without luck. Now my departure date isapproaching (I have already delayed) and I am gettingdesperate trying to figure out good ideas of what Ican do. Unfortunately the few people I know that showany interest tend to be the few people that alreadyhave cats and can't have a FELV cat. I am justlooking for any advice because she has never seemedsick in the 3yrs since I took her in and I figure ifshe
 has 3+ more they shouldn't be aritificially cutshort.Some background on her;3 yrs ago I lived in a neighborhood where this cat hadapparently lived for years on the street. She washaving litter after litter of kittens and many ofcourse don't make it on the streets of Chicago. I wasalways very impressed by her toughness and will tolive and even raise kittens under such toughcircumstances and finally a neighbor was able tocapture her so I could try stop the cycle. I took herto a place to be fixed and they found she was FELV+. I didn't know much about it at the time, but theywanted to put her to sleep immediately because it issuch a danger to other cats, etc, etc, etc.Since she seemed so tough in living on the streets andhealthy (if a bit worse for wear) when I brought herin I refused and said I would just let her live outwhatever time left with me. I am glad I made thatchoice because now 3yrs later she
 seems healthy andcomfortable. It is unfortunate she can't have anycompany and isn't a "lap cat", but consideringeverything I think she is comfortable and certainlyhas put on weight since the street days.Now this employment situation is going on and I don'tknow what to do. Between not being a "lap cat" (butvery cute, quiet, and well trained) and FELV+ it seemsimpossible to find a home. I had hoped the fact thatI am willing to take her back when I can return to theStates would help, but it doesn't seem to.This Fri I am taking her to a cat vet to get a totallyup to date status on her. In the meantime I washoping maybe this board would provide me with someideas, leads, etc. I really feel between a rock and ahard place.Thanks,Kevin__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Re: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat

2005-12-20 Thread Kevin Blaisdell
Yes.  I should have been more clear.  I have also
posted to the main list that my current location is
Chicago to clear things up for everyone.  Sorry :)

--- Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I assume you're in Chicago...
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kevin Blaisdell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:12 PM
 Subject: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat
 
 
  Due to a change in my employment I need to move to
  India for approx 1yr and am having trouble
 figuring
  out what options I have for my FELV cat.  It is
 pretty
  clear to me that I cannot take her with me to
 India
  and have been asking everyone I know or get a
 chance
  to run into if they would want to adopt or just
 foster
  home her without luck.  Now my departure date is
  approaching (I have already delayed) and I am
 getting
  desperate trying to figure out good ideas of what
 I
  can do.  Unfortunately the few people I know that
 show
  any interest tend to be the few people that
 already
  have cats and can't have a FELV cat.  I am just
  looking for any advice because she has never
 seemed
  sick in the 3yrs since I took her in and I figure
 if
  she has 3+ more they shouldn't be aritificially
 cut
  short.
  
  Some background on her;
  3 yrs ago I lived in a neighborhood where this cat
 had
  apparently lived for years on the street.  She was
  having litter after litter of kittens and many of
  course don't make it on the streets of Chicago.  I
 was
  always very impressed by her toughness and will to
  live and even raise kittens under such tough
  circumstances and finally a neighbor was able to
  capture her so I could try stop the cycle.  I took
 her
  to a place to be fixed and they found she was
 FELV+. 
  I didn't know much about it at the time, but they
  wanted to put her to sleep immediately because it
 is
  such a danger to other cats, etc, etc, etc.
  
  Since she seemed so tough in living on the streets
 and
  healthy (if a bit worse for wear) when I brought
 her
  in I refused and said I would just let her live
 out
  whatever time left with me.  I am glad I made that
  choice because now 3yrs later she seems healthy
 and
  comfortable.  It is unfortunate she can't have any
  company and isn't a lap cat, but considering
  everything I think she is comfortable and
 certainly
  has put on weight since the street days.
  
  Now this employment situation is going on and I
 don't
  know what to do.  Between not being a lap cat
 (but
  very cute, quiet, and well trained) and FELV+ it
 seems
  impossible to find a home.  I had hoped the fact
 that
  I am willing to take her back when I can return to
 the
  States would help, but it doesn't seem to.
  
  This Fri I am taking her to a cat vet to get a
 totally
  up to date status on her.  In the meantime I was
  hoping maybe this board would provide me with some
  ideas, leads, etc.  I really feel between a rock
 and a
  hard place.
  
  Thanks,
  Kevin
  
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Re: cat question (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])

2005-12-20 Thread Gloria Lane
I'd agree with spaying the FELV kitty, and that's what I've done.  I  
took in a little 8 month old FELV kitty who was pregnant, and my  
choice was to have her spayed.  She came thru it with flying colors.


I give my FELV kitties daily interferon, to boost the immune system.

Gloria


On Dec 15, 2005, at 11:51 AM, wendy wrote:


Janet,

I have to agree with everything that Nina said.
Having the cat spayed would probably be the humane
thing to do.  My cat Cricket was born with Feline
Leukemia; his mother had it.  I would like to urge you
to consider keeping this cat if you are at all
attached to it, and caring for it yourself.  FELV+
positive is not necessarily a death sentence; many
cats throw off the virus after they've been exposed,
expecially those with good health care and a lot of
love.  FELV+ cats are hard to place, and many times,
are euthanised because a lot of vets recommend it.
But we do not agree with this policy.  These kitties
deserve a happy life being loved just as much as a cat
that isn't FELV+.  Cricket lived 4 and a half years,
and probably would have lived longer had he not been
stressed out by a house full of Hurricane Rita
evacuees for a week, when the virus kicked in and he
became anemic.  Because he was born FELV+, his life
expectancy was a lot less than he actually lived.
Many kittens die by 6 months because their immune
systems are so weak, and even more by two years old.
No one can make this decision for you, but learn a
little more before you make the decision and I wish
you luck.  Let us know what you decide.  I'll keep you
in my prayers.

:)
Wendy

--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Janet,
As Terri and Tonya have already mentioned, many of
us mix adult negs
that have been vaccinated with pos.  It's a
judgement call and of course
no matter what our success rate in doing this is,
there's no safer
protection for your elderly cat than to not mix them
together.  That's
what most vets will tell you.  Being that your
current kitty is older, I
might not mix them together either.  That said, if I
were in this
situation, I'd figure God sent her to me for a
reason and I'd personally
dive in with both feet and do whatever I could to
save her and her kittens.

I am all too familiar with the heartache involved
with pos kittens.  My
experience with felv came when my husband and I
found a box of kittens
that were just 2.5 weeks old.  Because they were so
young, I assume the
mother succumbed to felv from the stress of having
them and the people
who abandoned them didn't know how to care for them.
 Why else would
they take them from their mother at that age?  We
lost 2 of our babies
when they were about 6 mos old and two more before
their 2nd birthday.
The other two are doing fine and are reaching 2.5
yrs.  Their lives were
filled with love and concern and I'm not a bit sorry
that I made the
commitment to try and save them.

Janet, you have some tough decisions ahead of you.
You don't know me,
so you might think I'm a monster for even bringing
this up, but given
what you've said in your post...  It's going to be
hard enough to place
the mother, if she's healthy.  I can't say what I
would do in your
place.  I'm not you and I have no idea what you have
to contend with.
If someone steps up very quickly to adopt her,
knowing she's pregnant,
well that's a different story altogether.  If you
just found out she's
pregnant, I'm supposing she's not too far along.
Under the
circumstances you describe, if you have her spayed,
the kittens would be
aborted at the same time and praying that she
remains asymptomatic after
the stress of the operation, you might have a chance
of placing her.  I
couldn't bear to think about what might be in store
for those babies if
they lose their mother, and don't have a human
willing to step in and
care for them.  My 2 cents on the harshness of
reality.  Now, what I'm
praying for is that you've fallen in love with this
little stray and
you'll want to adopt her yourself.  If so, there are
many wonderful,
knowledgeable people on this list who will support
you no matter where
that decision takes you.  I'm also praying that
someone, if not you,
will hear this little girl's story, take her in and
give her the kind of
life every kitty deserves.
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,
Two weeks ago I took a cat in that had been

abandoned.  Today, I took

her to the vet and found out she was tested as

positive for feline

leukemia.  I also found out today that she is

pregnant.


I have a 15 year old cat that does not have

leukemia.  Thus, I cannot

keep this new cat but I need to find a shelter

that can take her or a

family that this will be their only help.

Please let me know if you have any ideas.  I live

in Florida.


Thank you in advance,
Janet






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RE: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat

2005-12-20 Thread Kevin Blaisdell
Yes I am going to retest even though I was originally
given the impression she was permenent with this
condition.  The fact that she still seems fine despite
what everyone said made me figure who knows.  I get a
lot of other bad info so maybe that was bad info too
and she somehow is healthy.  Of course that still
leaves me with a dilemma, but a better chance of
finding a home.

Right now she gets everything except bedroom access
since my girlfriend is allergic (cat came first).  My
girlfriend has been real good about it and I also
invested in an air cleaner, HEPA vacuum, and have
hardwood floors.  I live in a townhome with a number
of levels and if I had to guess minus the bedroom she
probably has 1100-1200 sq ft.  However, she primarily
sticks to her room.  I have a 2nd bedroom I don't
use and has become her room where she like to either
sit on the heat vent or lay on the bed.

When I first took her in due to other neg cats (a
litter of hers) she had to stay in one small room for
a long time.  Maybe half a year later I bought my own
place and she has been living in this setup.

As far as India it is really tough to know for sure
officially.  It sounds like it could be not too much
issue or from what I have heard a good chance that I
will be pushed into some type of bribe.  That isn't
really the problem area.  The multiple issues that
made me rule out bringing her are;
- From what I understand you a health certificate is
required for flying with a cat.  My impression is I
can't get this because of the FELV+.
- I hear a lot about FELV+ and stress interactions. 
Whether this is accurate or not I suspect even a lot
of healthy and totally domestic (not so shy/scared)
cats would  not survive a 22-25hr trip.
- My understanding is that household (pet) cats are a
very unusual thing in India.  When I first arrive I am
supposed to stay for a few months in short term guest
housing (cross between hotel and apt).  With these
things in mind it sounds so far like the begging part
would be impossible and the later part (finding my
long term apt) would be very difficult with a cat
because of landlord rules and expectations.
- I am going to be going via Singapore and I am
guessing would have to navigate their regulations as
well.  I don't even want to think about what those are
since chewing gum is illegal.
- Finally one of the biggest ones is that I could have
trouble getting her back into the US.  I am not 100%
on if I could get her back in, but I did discover that
she would be required to go through a quarantine
period.  I think this could be really hard on her.

As you can see I thought about and researched this
some when the sitution came up.  If I could afford to
I would even leave her at home and have someone take
care of her.  Unfortunately, especially with this
employement change I can't afford to do that and have
to rent my place.  Maybe I should have posted my
message different Looking for caretaker who can pay
rent in Chicago :).  

I really wish there was a quality, affordable type of
long term caretaking thing for cats, but as far as I
know there isn't anything like that.

Kevin

--- MacKenzie, Kerry N.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin, you'll be including a re-test for FeLv on
 Friday, right?
 There is always a *slight* chance she'll come up
 negative.
 
 I assume she has the run of your house at the
 moment? How much space
 does she have?
 
 May seem a dumb Q, but what actually are the
 regulations re taking cats
 in general to India?
 
 Kerry
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Kevin
 Blaisdell
 Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:12 PM
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat
 
 
 Due to a change in my employment I need to move to
 India for approx 1yr and am having trouble figuring
 out what options I have for my FELV cat.  It is
 pretty
 clear to me that I cannot take her with me to India
 and have been asking everyone I know or get a chance
 to run into if they would want to adopt or just
 foster
 home her without luck.  Now my departure date is
 approaching (I have already delayed) and I am
 getting
 desperate trying to figure out good ideas of what I
 can do.  Unfortunately the few people I know that
 show
 any interest tend to be the few people that already
 have cats and can't have a FELV cat.  I am just
 looking for any advice because she has never seemed
 sick in the 3yrs since I took her in and I figure if
 she has 3+ more they shouldn't be aritificially cut
 short.
 
 Some background on her;
 3 yrs ago I lived in a neighborhood where this cat
 had
 apparently lived for years on the street.  She was
 having litter after litter of kittens and many of
 course don't make it on the streets of Chicago.  I
 was
 always very impressed by her toughness and will to
 live and even raise kittens under such tough
 circumstances and finally a neighbor was able to
 capture her so I could try stop the cycle.  I 

RE: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat

2005-12-20 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
Hi, Kevin, I am really sorry that you have to move - it must be heart
breaking - I have two FeLK cats and the second one I just rescued a
couple of weeks ago, it was shocking to find out that she was positive
because she just was perfectly healthy and fat and playful.. her name is
Tsubomi -- the first Felk baby I have is Ginger--- she only weighed 1 lb
when I first found her though she was already 6 months old and I knew
that something maybe wrong with her  but they are both asymptomatic
which I am grateful for --I wish I could take her --- the room I have
two feLk babies is way too small to have the third one since I already
have many many other kitties are not positive and I also bunch of FIV
kitties, I am separating them from the rest - I so hope that you can
find her a home -- if you can't please let me know - I don't know what I
am going to do,, but I just don't want her to PTS or anything because of
the situation.

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Blaisdell
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat

Yes I am going to retest even though I was originally
given the impression she was permenent with this
condition.  The fact that she still seems fine despite
what everyone said made me figure who knows.  I get a
lot of other bad info so maybe that was bad info too
and she somehow is healthy.  Of course that still
leaves me with a dilemma, but a better chance of
finding a home.

Right now she gets everything except bedroom access
since my girlfriend is allergic (cat came first).  My
girlfriend has been real good about it and I also
invested in an air cleaner, HEPA vacuum, and have
hardwood floors.  I live in a townhome with a number
of levels and if I had to guess minus the bedroom she
probably has 1100-1200 sq ft.  However, she primarily
sticks to her room.  I have a 2nd bedroom I don't
use and has become her room where she like to either
sit on the heat vent or lay on the bed.

When I first took her in due to other neg cats (a
litter of hers) she had to stay in one small room for
a long time.  Maybe half a year later I bought my own
place and she has been living in this setup.

As far as India it is really tough to know for sure
officially.  It sounds like it could be not too much
issue or from what I have heard a good chance that I
will be pushed into some type of bribe.  That isn't
really the problem area.  The multiple issues that
made me rule out bringing her are;
- From what I understand you a health certificate is
required for flying with a cat.  My impression is I
can't get this because of the FELV+.
- I hear a lot about FELV+ and stress interactions. 
Whether this is accurate or not I suspect even a lot
of healthy and totally domestic (not so shy/scared)
cats would  not survive a 22-25hr trip.
- My understanding is that household (pet) cats are a
very unusual thing in India.  When I first arrive I am
supposed to stay for a few months in short term guest
housing (cross between hotel and apt).  With these
things in mind it sounds so far like the begging part
would be impossible and the later part (finding my
long term apt) would be very difficult with a cat
because of landlord rules and expectations.
- I am going to be going via Singapore and I am
guessing would have to navigate their regulations as
well.  I don't even want to think about what those are
since chewing gum is illegal.
- Finally one of the biggest ones is that I could have
trouble getting her back into the US.  I am not 100%
on if I could get her back in, but I did discover that
she would be required to go through a quarantine
period.  I think this could be really hard on her.

As you can see I thought about and researched this
some when the sitution came up.  If I could afford to
I would even leave her at home and have someone take
care of her.  Unfortunately, especially with this
employement change I can't afford to do that and have
to rent my place.  Maybe I should have posted my
message different Looking for caretaker who can pay
rent in Chicago :).  

I really wish there was a quality, affordable type of
long term caretaking thing for cats, but as far as I
know there isn't anything like that.

Kevin

--- MacKenzie, Kerry N.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin, you'll be including a re-test for FeLv on
 Friday, right?
 There is always a *slight* chance she'll come up
 negative.
 
 I assume she has the run of your house at the
 moment? How much space
 does she have?
 
 May seem a dumb Q, but what actually are the
 regulations re taking cats
 in general to India?
 
 Kerry
 
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 Subject: Moving overseas need advice FELV cat
 
 
 Due to a change in my employment I need to move to
 India for approx 1yr 

I have a cat with FIV

2005-12-20 Thread erin moody
Hello to all, i am new to this site, and looking for any
info anyone has. My uncle reciently died and he had an indoor / outdoor
cat. There was confusion as to who was first taking it in, well
noone did. I drove the 45 min drive 3 times the first day to try
to catch the cat. They locked it outside for 2 weeks! The
neighbor helped me catch Fingers (the cat). I took it home and
locked it in a spare bedroom away from my other cats. I finally
convinced a family to take her in, with the exception I checked her out
at the vet. Well, yesterday I found out she tested positive
with FIV. I love this cat. Fingers has such a frendly
personality. I know its a plus that she has extra fingers, but noone
seems to want her now. I have contacted Tabbys Place which takes
cat in with FIV.They won't take anymore cats due to space. I would keep
her myself, but my one cat fights. If I am correct that is the only way
they transmit the virus. I live in New Jersey, but am
willing to do just about anything for this cat. Erin 



RE: I have a cat with FIV

2005-12-20 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Before you get convinced that she is
really positive for FIV  I would ask the vet to send a sample to test
for Western Blot  I have 6 positive cats, but 2 cats ended up being
false positive  did the vet run inside snap shot test or did it send it
outside? 



Just so that we are clear, as I understand
it, for FIV to bet transmitted, it requires for a FIV positive cat to bite a
negative one  and not the other way around. There is a very active
support group for FIV cats, you should join the list, lots of people on the
list, they mix their positives with negatives, and none of negatives have
become positive for anyone and I am one of them, too. I am hoping that
you will find a way to keep the kitty -



Heres the address  you will
need to join through yahoo  please do, you get a lot of good information
from this list on FIV  not worry too much.. Most of FIV positive cats do
live a normal life span if they are indoor kitties  again I have 6 FIV
kitties, and they are very healthy.. and some of them are older, too.



Make sure that you join the FIVcats2 not
FIVcats (most of the FIVcat group moved to FIVcats2 due to the harassment
posting from a couple of the list members 

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Subject: I have a cat with FIV





Hello to all, i am new to this site, and looking for any
info anyone has. My uncle reciently died and he had an indoor / outdoor
cat. There was confusion as to who was first taking it in, well noone
did. I drove the 45 min drive 3 times the first day to try to catch the
cat. They locked it outside for 2 weeks! The neighbor helped me catch
Fingers (the cat). I took it home and locked it in a spare bedroom away
from my other cats. I finally convinced a family to take her in, with the
exception I checked her out at the vet. Well, yesterday I found out
she tested positive with FIV. I love this cat. Fingers has such a
frendly personality. I know its a plus that she has extra fingers, but noone
seems to want her now. I have contacted Tabbys Place which takes cat in with
FIV.They won't take anymore cats due to space. I would keep her myself, but my
one cat fights. If I am correct that is the only way they transmit the virus.
I live in New Jersey,
but am willing to do just about anything for this
cat. Erin 








Re: advice needed re half-adopted cat

2005-12-20 Thread TenHouseCats
unless the kitty came from a humane society or rescue that did chipjust cuz a cat SEEMS to be a stray, well, we all know how that goes
On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 12/20/05 3:02:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

People with attitude like that about their pets don't get them microchipped, they don't even notice the pets are missing! Go on a weekend and get this cat out of thereā€¦.

I ditto that!
Patti
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Re: advice needed re half-adopted cat

2005-12-20 Thread catatonya
I agree. Your friend shouldn't go because she would be suspected. Get someone else to go, late at night. Don't get too close to the store itself, and open up the tuna/kfc. The cat should come to you. If there is a microchip I would be surprised. If there was one however, you just picked up a stray cat out freezing on the street. There's no crime in that. People don't 'own' animals that are not restricted to their property. Animals off of their own property are 'fair game' for whatever happens to them. Usually that's someone trying to hurt them, not help them.tKat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Kerry,Check with some of the animal shelters/animal control officers in thearea. More and more are being equipped with scanners - so no
 vet need beinvolved just to find out if one is even there.I like the KFC suggestion - but just in case the owner makes a stink, goto http://www.alleycat.org/pdf/feral_cat_shelter.pdf to get ideas on howto build an inexpensive cat shelter to keep the kitty out of the elements.If the guy doesn't even want an outdoor shelter for the kitty - I would gowith the KFC just off the property, with alot of calling/coaxing/etc.Good luck!Kat (Mew Jersey)On Tue, 20 Dec 2005, MacKenzie, Kerry N. wrote: Background: Misha is a stray that was sort of taken in by the people who work in a studio at the same business complex where my friend works. I say sort of because although two of the workers took her to the vet after she was badly attacked, and although they feed her, they don't take her home at the weekend: ie no one is actually making Misha their responsibility. In the summer and
 fall Misha would be found outside after they had all locked up and gone home for the weekend. When my friend, distressed by Misha's situation, offered to try to find Misha a home, the studio owner (who my friend says seems to be a reasonable, decent guy) rejected the proposal, saying that they had "adopted" her. Recently -- and it is really cold now--- my friend found Misha miaowing in vain at the studio door to be let in. My friend knocked on the door, and one of the other workers (not the owner) opened it. When she explained the cat needed to come in, the response to her was "Haven't you got anything better to do?"

Recipes for making kitty food

2005-12-20 Thread Steph E Caldwell
Can someone send me general recipes for cooking kitty food? I'm starting 
to make my own...


Steph



Re: I have a cat with FIV

2005-12-20 Thread Lernermichelle



Erin, 

 I know this is not ideal, but can you divide your house and 
keep Fingers but keep her separated from your other cat? I have 3 FeLV+ 
cats and one negative cat who I rescued, and my negative cat lives in our 
bedroom, laundry room, and bathroom, which are connected and separated by a door 
from the rest of the house. Not ideal at all, but workable. There are two FIV 
lists on yahoo and I found a home for an FIV+ cat on one of them last year, but 
it took a long time and we had to drive the cat 20 hours to his new home. 


Michelle


Re: I have a cat with FIV

2005-12-20 Thread erin moody
Michelle,
I can only let fingers have the spare bedroom. see I rent and the room
is 8 by 10. Not a horrible size, but unfair to ask her to live her life
in. I'm really hoping to find her a home if I
plaster the town with flyers and pictures. My
roommates agreed to let me keep her on a month to month bases,
reevaluating every month. I just hate this position I'm
in. Erin On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:




Erin, 

 I know this is not ideal, but can you divide your house and 
keep Fingers but keep her separated from your other cat? I have 3 FeLV+ 
cats and one negative cat who I rescued, and my negative cat lives in our 
bedroom, laundry room, and bathroom, which are connected and separated by a door 
from the rest of the house. Not ideal at all, but workable. There are two FIV 
lists on yahoo and I found a home for an FIV+ cat on one of them last year, but 
it took a long time and we had to drive the cat 20 hours to his new home. 


Michelle