Re: Jimi Too Cool problem

2006-12-17 Thread Marylyn
If you are going to use a re-freezable ice pack please make sure it is where he 
can't claw it and that it is in a couple of heavy freezer bags.  I've had 
several split/leak.  I do not know what is in them so I assume it is not good 
for a cat.  

On a personal note:  Both Ebony Thomas Katt and the Royal Princess Kitty Katt 
stopped eating much in the days before they left this world.  People often do 
the same.  Belief it or not, it is a relatively painless way to leave.  Have 
you tried offering very salty items (deli ham worked with Kitty) to interest 
him in food?  Mai Mai (a beautiful dog of mine) ate saltines near the time she 
left.  When I have trouble eating saltines or salty things help.  

It is extremely hard to watch a beautiful, wonderful friend leave.  The 
decisions you have to make are so hard and you will often second guess 
yourself.  Take some time alone, quiet time, with him and ask him what he wants 
then listen with  your heart.   






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:49 PM
  Subject: Re: Jimi Too Cool problem


  If it's painful for him to eat, have you been tube feeding him? It's very 
important to not let them go without a certain amount for more than 2-3 days 
because it leads to feline hepatic lipidosis (fatty liver disease). Poor baby. 
http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/liver2.html 

  I'm glad he's back inside now. There's a pet bed called the canine cooler, 
it's a dog bed, filled with gel, it's supposed to stay cool all the time, maybe 
Jimi would like one of those in the house. (or you could just put one of those 
re-freezable ice packs inside his normal cat bed, and have several to keep it 
cool all the time)
  http://www.chillow.com/cc.html 

  Am I the only one here that finds it at least a little amusing that Jimi Too 
Cool is trying to keep COOL? LOL! It's SO CUTE!

  Phaewryn

  Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html 
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Re: Emily is out of surgery, home and recovering

2006-12-17 Thread Kelley Saveika

Awww...what a little cutie!

I had a kitty have a partial mastectomy last year and she recovered fine and
is fat and sassy now.

All good thoughts for Emily.


On 12/16/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just an update on Emily, my friend Renee's girl with breast cancer. She
had a total
mastectomy, they removed both mammary chains at once (sometimes they can
only do one
at a time due to not having enough skin to close the incisions). She'll be
starting
her chemo after her sutures are removed in two weeks, and the pathology
report will
be back at that time too. The tumor was removed at the beginning of
December and it
was diagnosed as Adenocarcinoma. The surgeon said he didn't see any other
tumors
during the mastectomy, so things are looking promising. She's REALLY cute
in her
t-shirt. This way she doesn't have to wear an cone (elizabethan collar):
http://ucat.us/Emily-postsurgery.gif
http://ucat.us/Emily-postsurgery2.gif

Thanks to everyone on your positive thoughts and well wishes for her! She
seems to be
doing good, she has a pain patch on, and is on a course of post-surgical
antibiotics.
She was more active earlier, Renee thinks she may have overdone it and is
now a
little sore, as she is sleeping in her bed on the floor now (as opposed to
climbing
on the bed, etc).

Renee is a member here too, BTW, she's just not come out of her shell yet
enough to
talk... :-)
(so any replies, she will see)

Phaewryn






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Re: Emily is out of surgery, home and recovering

2006-12-17 Thread Dianne K Perry, Ph.D.

Thanks for the update.  The photos are so cuteshe is a beauty!

Healing thoughts sent her way

Asia
and Dianne
- 
Subject: Emily is out of surgery, home and recovering



Just an update on Emily, my friend Renee's girl with breast cancer. She 
had a total
mastectomy, 





Re: Prayers needed for Bandy

2006-12-17 Thread Kerry Roach
Hi everyone,
  Well, so far so good...I went shopping with some friends after I got Bandy 
home from the vet on Sat..as that is hard for me to do when he is so sick, but 
I thoughthe has had all the meds he can get for the day along with subq 
fluids..I thought it might be best that he rest and I leave him alone so he can 
do that..When I returned 12 hrs later, he was sitting up in his bed and had 
eaten some dry food along with little can food and some grilled chicken liver. 
I sat in the floor with him and he talked to me and was purring again..I don't 
know what tomorrow will bring, but I am hoping he is on the mend..Along with 
him having this leg problem which seems much better, I think he has a mild URI 
cause a couple of wks ago, Inky was sneezing and he is in the opposite end of 
the house from Bandy, but I was around him and probably spead it to Bandy since 
it wouldn't take much for him to come down with anything..Bandy did sneeze a 
few times the last few days but has no runny nose
 or eyes..I really think there might be something to that..Any opinions about 
that??  
  Thanks Nina and Michelle for the info.. I will check out the oli-vet later 
today.  And I am going to talk to his vet on Monday about the IR..I am going to 
see if she won't give him the .25 dose.  Do you know if there are any side 
effects with any other meds being given at the same time?  He is on adequan for 
the inflammation in the leg which is done in the muscle, I think..he will get 
it again on Tues and for 3 more wks..Also, what about the interferon along with 
the IR..?  That is one thing he gets daily and has since July, 2005.
  Thanks again for all your thoughts and prayers..Ours are with you all, too.
  Kerry, Bandy and Inky

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Re: Prayers needed for Bandy

2006-12-17 Thread Lernermichelle
 
interferon with I-R is ok.  I have not heard or read about any  interactions 
between I-R and anything else, but can not know for sure.
 
So glad he is feeling better. I do think it's a URI. Lucy just had fever,  
lethargy, and inappetance, sneezed a couple of times and I saw her nose bubble  
once or twice, but no runny nose or eyes or anything.  I think Bandy has a  
similar, if not the same, thing.
Michelle
 
In a message dated 12/17/2006 8:25:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi everyone,
Well, so far so good...I went shopping with some friends after I got  Bandy 
home from the vet on Sat..as that is hard for me to do when he is so  sick, but 
I thoughthe has had all the meds he can get for the day along  with subq 
fluids..I thought it might be best that he rest and I leave him  alone so he 
can do that..When I returned 12 hrs later, he was sitting up in  his bed and 
had eaten some dry food along with little can food and some  grilled chicken 
liver. I sat in the floor with him and he talked to me and was  purring 
again..I 
don't know what tomorrow will bring, but I am hoping he is on  the mend..Along 
with him having this leg problem which seems much better, I  think he has a 
mild URI cause a couple of wks ago, Inky was sneezing and he is  in the 
opposite end of the house from Bandy, but I was around him and probably  spead 
it to 
Bandy since it wouldn't take much for him to come down with  anything..Bandy 
did sneeze a few times the last few days but has no runny nose  or eyes..I 
really think there might be something to that..Any opinions about  that??  
Thanks Nina and Michelle for the info.. I will check out the oli-vet  later 
today.  And I am going to talk to his vet on Monday about the IR..I  am going 
to see if she won't give him the .25 dose.  Do you know if there  are any side 
effects with any other meds being given at the same time?   He is on adequan 
for the inflammation in the leg which is done in the muscle,  I think..he will 
get it again on Tues and for 3 more wks..Also, what about the  interferon 
along with the IR..?  That is one thing he gets daily and has  since July, 2005.
Thanks again for all your thoughts and prayers..Ours are with you all,  too.
Kerry, Bandy and Inky



 


Re: OT...Mice invasion.

2006-12-17 Thread Lernermichelle
I laughed-- you are like us-- but be careful! If you make them too cozy and  
give them too much food, they may reproduce more.  I am not sure that  making 
them a shelter and keeping them locked in, with all the comforts and food  of 
home, is such a good idea.  You may literally end up with thousands of  mice 
in a small space.
Michelle


Re: OT...Mice invasion.

2006-12-17 Thread Lernermichelle
by the way, my comment was not to dissuade you from saving and relocating  
them. I would never, ever kill a mouse, and am glad you are not either.  I  am 
just worried about the domestication issue in terms of uncontrolled  
reproduction.
Michelle


ring worm-- Bandy

2006-12-17 Thread Lernermichelle
Here is something from Robert MacDowell, an Australian herbalist who I have  
gotten canine, equine, and human mixes from.  They really work! The mix I  use 
for endometriosis is literally the only medicine other than celebrex  and 
codeine that has helped my pain.  Anyway, in case you are interested,  here is 
his product for feline ringworm:
Feline - Ringworm 
  




Ringworm is an infection caused by a fungus that grows in the  dead, 
superficial layers of the skin, hair or nails. It has nothing to do with  
worms. The 
scientific name for ringworm is dermatophytosis, and fungi which  cause the 
disease are called dermatophytes. In the cat, the cause of more than  90 per 
cent 
of cases of ringworm is the dermatophyte Microsporum  canis.

Ringworm is contagious. Spores are the infectious stage of  dermatophytes and 
are produced by M canis during an infection. Infected hairs  are shed into 
the cat's environment. Cats may become infected either by direct  contact with 
an infected animal or by exposure to a contaminated environment.  However some 
degree of self trauma is probably required to enable fungal  infection to 
develop.

Typical skin lesions are discrete, roughly circular  areas of hair loss, 
particularly on the head, ears or extremities of the paws.  The hairs 
surrounding 
affected areas appear broken. The affected skin is often  scaly and may look 
inflamed.

Ringworm seems to be more common in young  cats less than one year old, and 
long-haired cats. The reasons for this are  unknown. It is speculated that 
young cats may have immature immune defence  mechanisms which limit their 
ability 
to resist infection. In long-haired cats  grooming is less efficient and the 
skin surface is more protected from exposure  to the sun.

I suggest both an internal mix  external ointment.  Positive results should 
be seen in 2 weeks. External treatment apply twice  daily.

To one jar of Paw paw I add herbs Calendula, Yarrow, Thuja and the  Bach 
Flowers Larch, Elm, Crab Apple and Rescue Remedy.

This is one of our  new cat descriptions, please see our site for others.
_http://www.herbal-treatments.com/herbal_treatments_for_cats.html_ 
(http://www.herbal-treatments.com/herbal_treatments_for_cats.html)   

Michelle


Re: OT...Mice invasion.

2006-12-17 Thread TenHouseCats

picturing the little festive bowl of mousie condoms out on their coffee
table or the little girl mousies lining up each night to take their
teensy pills... :::

(my mother hated cats, my father didn't like dogs--so my first pets were
mice  in the fantasy cyberworld i spend an inordinate amount of time in,
MeowChat, two of my cats raise and train show mice--and yes, there REALLY
are himalayan and siamese show mice the ones who don't do well in
conformation are phenomenal in agility trials my cats are also quite
opposed to well-fed housecats feasting on other living things, and serve
tofu birds and mice at all our gatherings)

On 12/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 by the way, my comment was not to dissuade you from saving and relocating
them. I would never, ever kill a mouse, and am glad you are not either.  I
am just worried about the domestication issue in terms of uncontrolled
reproduction.
Michelle





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Maybe That'll Make The Difference

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MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Emily is out of surgery, home and recovering

2006-12-17 Thread ETrent
 
Love and healing for Emily.  Poor baby.  My girl, Felicity)  had to have a 
complete mastectomy years ago and she recovered nicely.   That's quite a 
surgery 
though!  I wish her a speedy recovery.
 
elizabeth
 
In a message dated 12/16/2006 10:39:08 PM Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Just an  update on Emily, my friend Renee's girl with breast cancer. She had 
a  total
mastectomy, they removed both mammary chains at once (sometimes they  can 
only do one
at a time due to not having enough skin to close the  incisions). She'll be 
starting
her chemo after her sutures are removed in  two weeks, and the pathology 
report will
be back at that time too. The  tumor was removed at the beginning of December 
and it
was diagnosed as  Adenocarcinoma. The surgeon said he didn't see any other 
tumors
during the  mastectomy, so things are looking promising. She's REALLY cute in 
 her
t-shirt. This way she doesn't have to wear an cone (elizabethan  collar):
http://ucat.us/Emily-postsurgery.gif
http://ucat.us/Emily-postsurgery2.gif

Thanks  to everyone on your positive thoughts and well wishes for her! She 
seems to  be
doing good, she has a pain patch on, and is on a course of post-surgical  
antibiotics.
She was more active earlier, Renee thinks she may have  overdone it and is 
now a
little sore, as she is sleeping in her bed on the  floor now (as opposed to 
climbing
on the bed, etc).

Renee is a  member here too, BTW, she's just not come out of her shell yet 
enough  to
talk... :-)
(so any replies, she will  see)

Phaewryn






Getting a kitty to eat

2006-12-17 Thread Kelley Saveika

Hi all,

My Morgana went to the vet yesterday (she's actually mine, not a foster) and
I was shocked that the vet felt she was much too thin (I've taken kitties in
there I felt were too thin and he's disagreed almost every time!  LOL!)  She
is a Persian and I guess they can be decieving, with all that fur.  Right
now I have all the cats on free choice Felidae dry, with an additional 2
large cans of Felidae per day.  (I'd like to have them all on Innova, but I
added up the cost for that and came up with $600 per month, so that is not
going to happen any time soon).  This kitty has never been interested in
food, treats, or anything else - I got some pill pockets for her pills and
the other cats seized the bag and started dragging it up the stairs...she
was just eh, whatever, more food.  She's on an appetite stimulant now, but
it doesn't seem to be doing too much.  I have a list of all her meds at
home, but I'm at work now...she got 4 new meds yesterday.

--
Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20


Re: Emily is out of surgery, home and recovering

2006-12-17 Thread Nina

Renee and Phaewryn,
Thanks for keeping us posted about Emily.  What a beautiful girl, 
whoever took her picture captured her charm.  It's easy to see why Renee 
is so in love.  Many blessings to the three of you,

Nina

Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn wrote:

Just an update on Emily, my friend Renee's girl with breast cancer. She had a 
total
mastectomy, they removed both mammary chains at once (sometimes they can only 
do one
at a time due to not having enough skin to close the incisions). She'll be 
starting
her chemo after her sutures are removed in two weeks, and the pathology report 
will
be back at that time too. The tumor was removed at the beginning of December 
and it
was diagnosed as Adenocarcinoma. The surgeon said he didn't see any other tumors
during the mastectomy, so things are looking promising. She's REALLY cute in her
t-shirt. This way she doesn't have to wear an cone (elizabethan collar):
http://ucat.us/Emily-postsurgery.gif
http://ucat.us/Emily-postsurgery2.gif

Thanks to everyone on your positive thoughts and well wishes for her! She seems 
to be
doing good, she has a pain patch on, and is on a course of post-surgical 
antibiotics.
She was more active earlier, Renee thinks she may have overdone it and is now a
little sore, as she is sleeping in her bed on the floor now (as opposed to 
climbing
on the bed, etc).

Renee is a member here too, BTW, she's just not come out of her shell yet 
enough to
talk... :-)
(so any replies, she will see)

Phaewryn
  





Re: ring worm-- Bandy

2006-12-17 Thread Nina
Thanks for passing on the site Michelle, it's been duly bookmarked.  
Wouldn't it be wonderful if Bandy's ringworm would stop plaguing him? On 
top of everything else the poor guy has to be uncomfortable in his own skin.

Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is something from Robert MacDowell, an Australian herbalist who I 
have gotten canine, equine, and human mixes from.  They really work! 
The mix I use for endometriosis is literally the only medicine other 
than celebrex and codeine that has helped my pain.  Anyway, in case 
you are interested, here is his product for feline ringworm:

*Feline - Ringworm*





Re: OT...Mice invasion.

2006-12-17 Thread Nina
Oh, there will be more!  Mice and rats make lovely companions, (I had 
them when I was a kid too).  Unless you are thinking of re-homing these 
babies, I'd make sure they have access to the outside! 
Still picturing the little bowl of mousie condoms :),

Nina

TenHouseCats wrote:
picturing the little festive bowl of mousie condoms out on their 
coffee table or the little girl mousies lining up each night to 
take their teensy pills... :::


(my mother hated cats, my father didn't like dogs--so my first pets 
were mice  in the fantasy cyberworld i spend an inordinate amount 
of time in, MeowChat, two of my cats raise and train show mice--and 
yes, there REALLY are himalayan and siamese show mice the ones who 
don't do well in conformation are phenomenal in agility trials my 
cats are also quite opposed to well-fed housecats feasting on other 
living things, and serve tofu birds and mice at all our gatherings)


On 12/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


by the way, my comment was not to dissuade you from saving and
relocating them. I would never, ever kill a mouse, and am glad you
are not either.  I am just worried about the domestication issue
in terms of uncontrolled reproduction.
Michelle




--
Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference

MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892 


Re: OT - Yay, my fosters are staying with me!

2006-12-17 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
Yay! Good for you Kelley! I hope you have a wonderful holiday adoption
program!

Phaewryn

Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html
VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:
http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html
Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html


Re: Getting a kitty to eat

2006-12-17 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
I highly recommend a teaspoon of Nutri-Cal or Vita-Cal twice a day. It
boosts the calories, and most cats eat it by choice. You can also increase
the fat in her diet by adding high fat supplements (like those made for good
coats and skin) or Feline Missing Link (which I use myself with great
results).
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=3177N=2002+113617
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=2014N=2002+113617
A digestion aid can help her to get more calories out of what she does eat
too:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=3391N=2002+113753
Also consider a liquid supplement Like Cat Sure, Rebound, or Clinicare:
http://www.allivet.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=12070Show=ExtInfo

You wont have to get her to eat much more if you add enough calories to the
amount she's already eating. I've never had a problem with mixing Missing
Link or Vita-cal into the wet food, the cats LIKE the flavors, at least mine
have not refused to eat it with it in there. I have a tub of a supplement
called Wild Trax, it's for supplementing wild hybrid cats that get raw meat
with bones as their primary food, anyways, I got it for the bengals when I
did that rescue 2 years ago. Sometimes I just unscrew the lid and leave the
jar open on the table, and the cats come up and lick some of it out if they
want (it's a very meaty smelling powder). Like all animals, they will crave
what they are missing (think a salt-mineral block for livestock). If she
doesn't eat the powdered supplements, you can always syringe her the
Vita-Cal mixed with the Rebound, and add a liquid vitamin supplement like
Lixo-Tinic or Pet-Tinic. There's not much you can't find in the supplement
world if you look hard enough.

So, that's what I would do, try the Missing Link and Vita-Cal mixed into her
wet food first, if she refuses it, then get the Rebound, and Pet-Tinic, and
mix those with the Vita-Cal and then syringe the liquid. You can't syringe
the Missing Link, it's too grainy and doesn't dissolve in liquid. I'm not
sure about the digestion aid stuff, I've never used it personally. It
appears that it might dissolve in liquid, and it looks crystalline in the
photo.

Phaewryn

Please save Whitey! http://ucat.us/Whitey.html
VT low cost SpayNeuter, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:
http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.html
Special Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html


From Emily's Mom

2006-12-17 Thread BoardMailbox
Emily and I would like to thank all of you for your well wishes, positive  
vibes, prayers and kind words.
 
Renee


Re: OT...Mice invasion.

2006-12-17 Thread Kelly L

At 07:59 AM 12/17/2006, you wrote:



We trapped 4 more last night, bought our second condo,,,We are trying 
to find a place to relocate them to that is sort of safe although 
with me babies now I am concerned, I need a place to relocate the 
nests and mama intact,,I am not 100% sure which is mama and I may 
have two nests in there,,I need someone willing to donate me their 
barn ,,Ya right,,,

Kelly


Oh, there will be more!  Mice and rats make lovely companions, (I 
had them when I was a kid too).  Unless you are thinking of 
re-homing these babies, I'd make sure they have access to the outside!

Still picturing the little bowl of mousie condoms :),
Nina

TenHouseCats wrote:
picturing the little festive bowl of mousie condoms out on 
their coffee table or the little girl mousies lining up each 
night to take their teensy pills... :::


(my mother hated cats, my father didn't like dogs--so my first pets 
were mice  in the fantasy cyberworld i spend an inordinate 
amount of time in, MeowChat, two of my cats raise and train show 
mice--and yes, there REALLY are himalayan and siamese show mice 
the ones who don't do well in conformation are phenomenal in 
agility trials my cats are also quite opposed to well-fed 
housecats feasting on other living things, and serve tofu birds and 
mice at all our gatherings)


On 12/17/06, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
by the way, my comment was not to dissuade you from saving and 
relocating them. I would never, ever kill a mouse, and am glad you 
are not either.  I am just worried about the domestication issue in 
terms of uncontrolled reproduction.

Michelle




--
Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference

MaryChristine

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MSN: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

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Re: OT...Mice invasion.

2006-12-17 Thread Nina
Someone to donate their barn...  Lol, thanks for the chuckle.  Where 
else but on a list like ours would you find someone who would consider 
purposely infesting a barn with re-located mice :)?  Maybe you could 
build a big mouse shelter on your property where you could put a 
protected food source, with lots of nooks and crannies to keep them 
happy and warm.  Maybe they'd be so pleased with their new territory 
they'd decide their house was better than yours.


I'm sorry for your dilemma, but it is giving me a nice warm holiday 
feeling thinking of those mice finding their way into such a loving 
human's protection.  Once you start naming them and discovering their 
individual personalities, you'll be calling those clever cat habitat 
architects to construct yet another sanctuary.  Is there such a thing as 
a mouse hoarder?

Hugs to you and your hubby Kelly,
Nina



Kelly L wrote:

At 07:59 AM 12/17/2006, you wrote:



We trapped 4 more last night, bought our second condo,,,We are trying 
to find a place to relocate them to that is sort of safe although with 
me babies now I am concerned, I need a place to relocate the nests and 
mama intact,,I am not 100% sure which is mama and I may have two nests 
in there,,I need someone willing to donate me their barn ,,Ya right,,,

Kelly


Oh, there will be more!  Mice and rats make lovely companions, (I had 
them when I was a kid too).  Unless you are thinking of re-homing 
these babies, I'd make sure they have access to the outside! 
Still picturing the little bowl of mousie condoms :),

Nina

TenHouseCats wrote:
picturing the little festive bowl of mousie condoms out on their 
coffee table or the little girl mousies lining up each night to 
take their teensy pills... :::


(my mother hated cats, my father didn't like dogs--so my first pets 
were mice  in the fantasy cyberworld i spend an inordinate 
amount of time in, MeowChat, two of my cats raise and train show 
mice--and yes, there REALLY are himalayan and siamese show mice 
the ones who don't do well in conformation are phenomenal in agility 
trials my cats are also quite opposed to well-fed housecats 
feasting on other living things, and serve tofu birds and mice at 
all our gatherings)


On 12/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


by the way, my comment was not to dissuade you from saving and
relocating them. I would never, ever kill a mouse, and am glad
you are not either.  I am just worried about the domestication
issue in terms of uncontrolled reproduction.
Michelle




--
Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference

MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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Re: OT...Mice invasion.

2006-12-17 Thread Marylyn
And they will inbreed and not be able to care for themselves.  Be kind to them 
and give them the freedom you would want.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:51 AM
  Subject: Re: OT...Mice invasion.


  I laughed-- you are like us-- but be careful! If you make them too cozy and 
give them too much food, they may reproduce more.  I am not sure that making 
them a shelter and keeping them locked in, with all the comforts and food of 
home, is such a good idea.  You may literally end up with thousands of mice in 
a small space.
  Michelle

Re: OT...Mice invasion.

2006-12-17 Thread Kelly L

At 12:45 PM 12/17/2006, you wrote:

We have spent all morning looking for the good place,,,The mom and 
babies are the concern,,,We found a great junk yard with lots of 
shelters and we will leave them plenty of food.



And they will inbreed and not be able to care for themselves.  Be 
kind to them and give them the freedom you would want.







 If you have men 
who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter 
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise 
with their fellow man.

  St. Francis
- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: OT...Mice invasion.

I laughed-- you are like us-- but be careful! If you make them too 
cozy and give them too much food, they may reproduce more.  I am not 
sure that making them a shelter and keeping them locked in, with all 
the comforts and food of home, is such a good idea.  You may 
literally end up with thousands of mice in a small space.

Michelle

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Re: OT...Mice invasion.

2006-12-17 Thread Marylyn
That is totally wonderful.  What a great Christmas story.  






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelly L 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:35 PM
  Subject: Re: OT...Mice invasion.


  At 12:45 PM 12/17/2006, you wrote:

  We have spent all morning looking for the good place,,,The mom and babies are 
the concern,,,We found a great junk yard with lots of shelters and we will 
leave them plenty of food.



And they will inbreed and not be able to care for themselves.  Be kind to 
them and give them the freedom you would want.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis

  - Original Message - 

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

  Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:51 AM

  Subject: Re: OT...Mice invasion.


  I laughed-- you are like us-- but be careful! If you make them too cozy 
and give them too much food, they may reproduce more.  I am not sure that 
making them a shelter and keeping them locked in, with all the comforts and 
food of home, is such a good idea.  You may literally end up with thousands of 
mice in a small space.

  Michelle


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Re: OT...Mice invasion.

2006-12-17 Thread Kelly L

At 01:52 PM 12/17/2006, you wrote:

That is totally wonderful.  What a great Christmas story.





Well we relented and built them their own safe quarters on the back 
of the property insulated with hay and food an shelters..I just took 
them out there,,as I was heading back to the house one of them came 
out and beat me back to the house, They need to move a bit further away,,

Kelly








 If you have men 
who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter 
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise 
with their fellow man.

  St. Francis
- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kelly L
To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: OT...Mice invasion.

At 12:45 PM 12/17/2006, you wrote:

We have spent all morning looking for the good place,,,The mom and 
babies are the concern,,,We found a great junk yard with lots of 
shelters and we will leave them plenty of food.



And they will inbreed and not be able to care for themselves.  Be 
kind to them and give them the freedom you would want.







 If you have men 
who will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter 
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal 
likewise with their fellow man.


St. Francis
- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: OT...Mice invasion.

I laughed-- you are like us-- but be careful! If you make them too 
cozy and give them too much food, they may reproduce more.  I am 
not sure that making them a shelter and keeping them locked in, 
with all the comforts and food of home, is such a good idea.  You 
may literally end up with thousands of mice in a small space.

Michelle
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Re: OT - Yay, my fosters are staying with me!

2006-12-17 Thread catatonya
Congratulations!

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi guys,
   
  For those of you who have been following the saga of the fosters, the 
director of the old rescue has backed down and agreed to legally transfer all 
my foster cats to me.  So everything is ethical and I get to find them great 
homes, and I can raise money for their medical needs on my website and 
hopefully not be drowning in vet bills anymore!  Best Christmas present ever! 
   
  Thanks,
   
  Kelley

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Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20