Re: Interesting article about cat health and cleansing their bodies
What do people think of this? I'm feeling so overwhelmed right now - wanting to do anything I can to save Slink and not knowing what's best. Seems everything you read says something different. I think I'd feel better about this article if it weren't written by the people selling the products. But...what do people think? Re: Slink...His temp spiked again last night. :( But it's down to 103.6 this morning. Last night when I went to bed he got up and went under the bed all the way back in the corner and sat there. I really thought maybe he was getting ready to leave me. So I crawled under the bed and petted and kissed him a bit...but didn't want to bring him up to the bed if he wanted to be alone (trying to respect his wishes...so hard but I know it's best). I did pull the rug he was lying on a little closer to the front of the bed. I checked on him a few times during the night and he's still hangin' in there. He's up on the bed with me now. But..was a long night for mom!!! I ordered the IR and have an appointment tonight to start it. I am staying home today because now it appears that I'M getting sick! :( Thanks for all the prayers and support for Slink! I'll keep you updated. MJ wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might be interested in this article that was posted on the hyper T website about cleansing a cat's system. I couldn't post the whole article as it's very long (here's the rest of it: http://www.petmedicinechest.com/feline/discussions/chronicsicknesstext.asp.) Any thoughts on this article? :) Wendy Dear Fellow Cat Lover, So your precious cat has been sick for months and months or possibly even years. There is no way you are willing to give up on your kitty. You have tried all the drugs the Vet has prescribed. Your kitty is fed up with you stuffing chemicals down its throat and might even be to the point of not eating anything you are giving because he/she no longer trusts you. Now what are you going to do? Let your kitty die? Never! Your kitty may have just been diagnosed with hyper or hypo-thyroid disease. Your cat is sick of being sick. You are sick because you are trying everything and your cat is getting even sicker. Your Vet wants to put your precious furry friend through all sorts of torture and drugs. Relax, you have just found the most important site on the internet to help you help bring your little life-long companion back to health, vitality and happiness. If you took the effort to research and seek us out, you are our kind of person. One who cares so much for the welfare of their cat, that they will do whatever it takes to bring their cat back to health in spite of all the expert help you both have been given. Guess what? It doesn't take nearly as much as you might think. It takes: a.. Diligence on your part. b.. A fresh perspective about animal health--eliminating the concept that drugs are the road to health that all of us have been led to believe over the past forty to fifty years and which you see with your own eyes how well they don't work. c.. The initiative to make the changes that are essential in the recovery of your cat's health and well being and to stick with those changes. d.. It does NOT take a lot of money either. Our little ones are doing fine thanks to you guys. Please never give up this battle to inform the public of your great products. Without them, my pets would have died a long time ago. They not only lived longer, but in better health than they ever had. I mean ever!! Thank you, Gail H. and family, New York WHAT YOU NEED TO DO First, you need to bring your cat's immune system that has been so severely suppressed back up and into good working condition. Second, you need to rebuild all the flora that has been killed in your kitty's gut and the rest of its body. Third, you need to clean up your cat's contaminated blood that has been circulating within its veins for months or years causing these constant health conditions. Fourth, you need to provide home-cooked, fresh wholesome food for your cat. GETTING STARTED Step One--The Immune System After weeks and months of toxic drugs and other chemicals being given to your kitty, its little immune system is severely suppressed. Is it possible to rebuild the immune system? Absolutely it is possible. You may have heard of the herb Echinacea which has been used for hundreds of years in North America to boost the immune system. We use this and others that have been shown to boost the immune system. The medicinal qualities of herbs such as Echinacea, Poke Root along with a host of others from North America have been extracted from the plants in the form of a liquid tincture. This herbal remedy tincture with the synergy of the specifically feline formulated herbs has been shown to aid cat's with serious health conditions in a relatively short period of time.
Re: Brady Add to CLS please
Sherry, I am so sorry. My heart is with you. elizabeth On 3/22/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THis sweet handsome gray tiger boy won me over at Crashs,on Sunday I noticed he didn't look well and we lost him today to FIP.He was a shy boy but I helped get him to trust.THe power of Temptations treats. :) This one really hurts.Well they all do,I don't usually get too attached to the ones that have a chance at getting adopted but I really like this guy.He didn't have felv but could we add him to the list?THanks so much Sherry -- The fish are biting. Get more visitorshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49679/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140cmp=Yahooctv=Q107Taglines=Ys2=EMb=50on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
Re: Brady Add to CLS please
Sherry, I am so sorry for your loss:(. Kelly is right - I don't know how you do it. On 3/23/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sherry, I am so sorry. My heart is with you. elizabeth On 3/22/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THis sweet handsome gray tiger boy won me over at Crashs,on Sunday I noticed he didn't look well and we lost him today to FIP.He was a shy boy but I helped get him to trust.THe power of Temptations treats. :) This one really hurts.Well they all do,I don't usually get too attached to the ones that have a chance at getting adopted but I really like this guy.He didn't have felv but could we add him to the list?THanks so much Sherry -- The fish are biting. Get more visitorshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49679/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php?o=US2140cmp=Yahooctv=Q107Taglines=Ys2=EMb=50on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Need Advice - Concerning Fred [kind of long]
Hi Guys, I'm really struggling to keep my anger under control. Fred as you know has not been doing well the last few days and I took him in Tuesday and found out his blood pressure is sky high again. Well while I was there I asked the vet if she had checked his tube entry site because for the last week there have been several occasions when I thought I felt some swelling again, but at other times I wasn't sure. Well she assured me she had and it was fine ... last night I was scratching him under his chin and found a huge lump under there again, NO mistaking it there was something there!!! Well I guess I know now part of the reason he is feeling so crappy and not bouncing back. Those who have read my last few messages about our situation know about us battling this infection for about a month and a half. They were giving me clavamox even though the second time it came back he had been on and still was on it for 2 weeks. I'm so upset and angry I am really going to be struggling to not go in there and start screaming at everyone! *The vet I saw Tuesday obviously flat out lied to me, there is NO way she could have checked the site like she said and missed that.* Fred has been miserable more often than not for over a month and a half because of this infection. He's very depressed now and it's going to make it that much harder to get him over this now. I have an appointment at 11:30 just to check his blood pressure, I made it before I found the lump, but am calling the second they open and telling them I want to see Dr. Munson the minute she walks in the door, her first appointment will have to wait, as far as I'm concerned this is an emergency and this time they are going to get it right The lump is three bigger than it has ever been and I know Fred is fed up and feeling pretty crappy, I hope he can find the fight to get over this hump, please, please send him prayers for strength and the will to keep fighting. My question, how do I go in there and remain sane, rational and control myself because I just want to go in there and tell everyone how incompetent I think they are but NOT before we get this infection dealt with and under control?? Please pray that I can control myself so I can get the care Fred needs. The vet I'm seeing today is one of two I haven't seen while we have been dealing with all this so hopefully she will earn my trust and know what the hell she is doing. Help me guys get my state of mind in a positive frame, it is going to be really hard this time! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com
RE: Need Advice - Concerning Fred [kind of long]
Wow, Belinda. I don't blame you for being furious. You'd think that would be the first thing they'd check, wouldn't you? I don't have any advice for you about how to remain calm, since invariably in confrontations where I'm that angry, I end up bursting into tears...not helpful. I guess ideally, you let the fury rule rather than the worry and frustration, so you get that icy calm thing going. Tell them what the other vet said, what YOU found, and what you need done, stat. If the vet you're seeing does gain your trust, that's great, but if not, start looking as soon as Fred is past this. Apologize to Fred for all the extra stuff he's gone through, and tell him you're on the way to getting it fixed right. I'm sure he knows you've been trying to help, and that there was no way you could know a person you had put your trust in wouldn't be competent. Best of luck at the vet! Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 8:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Need Advice - Concerning Fred [kind of long] Hi Guys, I'm really struggling to keep my anger under control. Fred as you know has not been doing well the last few days and I took him in Tuesday and found out his blood pressure is sky high again. Well while I was there I asked the vet if she had checked his tube entry site because for the last week there have been several occasions when I thought I felt some swelling again, but at other times I wasn't sure. Well she assured me she had and it was fine ... last night I was scratching him under his chin and found a huge lump under there again, NO mistaking it there was something there!!! Well I guess I know now part of the reason he is feeling so crappy and not bouncing back. Those who have read my last few messages about our situation know about us battling this infection for about a month and a half. They were giving me clavamox even though the second time it came back he had been on and still was on it for 2 weeks. I'm so upset and angry I am really going to be struggling to not go in there and start screaming at everyone! The vet I saw Tuesday obviously flat out lied to me, there is NO way she could have checked the site like she said and missed that. Fred has been miserable more often than not for over a month and a half because of this infection. He's very depressed now and it's going to make it that much harder to get him over this now. I have an appointment at 11:30 just to check his blood pressure, I made it before I found the lump, but am calling the second they open and telling them I want to see Dr. Munson the minute she walks in the door, her first appointment will have to wait, as far as I'm concerned this is an emergency and this time they are going to get it right The lump is three bigger than it has ever been and I know Fred is fed up and feeling pretty crappy, I hope he can find the fight to get over this hump, please, please send him prayers for strength and the will to keep fighting. My question, how do I go in there and remain sane, rational and control myself because I just want to go in there and tell everyone how incompetent I think they are but NOT before we get this infection dealt with and under control?? Please pray that I can control myself so I can get the care Fred needs. The vet I'm seeing today is one of two I haven't seen while we have been dealing with all this so hopefully she will earn my trust and know what the hell she is doing. Help me guys get my state of mind in a positive frame, it is going to be really hard this time! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
Prednilisone (I think that is the spelling) and doxy. The doxy is in case he has hemobartonella - it is easier to treat for it in case than it is to test for it. He gets 10 mg Pred and 1/4 of a doxy tablet twice a day. On 3/22/07, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the medication? -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Kelley Saveika *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:19 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia Thank you Marylyn. He actually seems much better today than he did yesterday, though he only had his medicines about 30 minutes ago. I only know one alternative vet in town and she is a cardiologist. I iwll see if I can find more. On 3/21/07, *Marylyn* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition. Her vets were wonderful but the steroids took their toll. However, my alternative vet was very helpful and able to get the condition under control for a pretty good length of time. You might investigate this avenue. Mai Mai left this world over 5 years ago and treatments may well have improved. Good luck and blessings to you. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:57 AM *Subject:* Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/ this disease... But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it.. What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying around, sleeping alot. So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated when I got results!!! Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned doing my research) We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff. prescriptions!), etc., etc. Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had my boy PTS.. He could no longer walk, even get up. And, the chemo drugs made him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to do!!! I ended up hand-feeding him. He developed ulcerations in his mouth because of all he *had* to take. It got to the point where I was hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a big boy..) In the end, my former big boy weighed only around 60 lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his weight) It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put him through. I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him. But, after all I put him thru, I did lose him. We humans can be so selfish. After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most important thing is *knowing* when to let go.. Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. Best wishes for your baby. Hugs, Patti her gang (Which DOES include another Rottie!) -- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at *AOL.com* http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000339. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Re: Need Advice - Concerning Fred [kind of long]
I don't blame you for being furious either. I have learned, though, that allowing your fury to show doesn't really help your animal in most cases. Remember that being calm (or at least pretending to be) is the best way to help Fred. I also would be looking for another vet as soon as he's through this - that's how I found my current great vet. On 3/23/07, Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, Belinda. I don't blame you for being furious. You'd think that would be the first thing they'd check, wouldn't you? I don't have any advice for you about how to remain calm, since invariably in confrontations where I'm that angry, I end up bursting into tears...not helpful. I guess ideally, you let the fury rule rather than the worry and frustration, so you get that icy calm thing going. Tell them what the other vet said, what YOU found, and what you need done, stat. If the vet you're seeing does gain your trust, that's great, but if not, start looking as soon as Fred is past this. Apologize to Fred for all the extra stuff he's gone through, and tell him you're on the way to getting it fixed right. I'm sure he knows you've been trying to help, and that there was no way you could know a person you had put your trust in wouldn't be competent. Best of luck at the vet! Diane R. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Belinda *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 8:47 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Need Advice - Concerning Fred [kind of long] Hi Guys, I'm really struggling to keep my anger under control. Fred as you know has not been doing well the last few days and I took him in Tuesday and found out his blood pressure is sky high again. Well while I was there I asked the vet if she had checked his tube entry site because for the last week there have been several occasions when I thought I felt some swelling again, but at other times I wasn't sure. Well she assured me she had and it was fine ... last night I was scratching him under his chin and found a huge lump under there again, NO mistaking it there was something there!!! Well I guess I know now part of the reason he is feeling so crappy and not bouncing back. Those who have read my last few messages about our situation know about us battling this infection for about a month and a half. They were giving me clavamox even though the second time it came back he had been on and still was on it for 2 weeks. I'm so upset and angry I am really going to be struggling to not go in there and start screaming at everyone! *The vet I saw Tuesday obviously flat out lied to me, there is NO way she could have checked the site like she said and missed that.* Fred has been miserable more often than not for over a month and a half because of this infection. He's very depressed now and it's going to make it that much harder to get him over this now. I have an appointment at 11:30 just to check his blood pressure, I made it before I found the lump, but am calling the second they open and telling them I want to see Dr. Munson the minute she walks in the door, her first appointment will have to wait, as far as I'm concerned this is an emergency and this time they are going to get it right The lump is three bigger than it has ever been and I know Fred is fed up and feeling pretty crappy, I hope he can find the fight to get over this hump, please, please send him prayers for strength and the will to keep fighting. My question, how do I go in there and remain sane, rational and control myself because I just want to go in there and tell everyone how incompetent I think they are but NOT before we get this infection dealt with and under control?? Please pray that I can control myself so I can get the care Fred needs. The vet I'm seeing today is one of two I haven't seen while we have been dealing with all this so hopefully she will earn my trust and know what the hell she is doing. Help me guys get my state of mind in a positive frame, it is going to be really hard this time! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.com This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: Need Advice - Concerning Fred [kind of long]
Hi Belinda I am not sure how to tell you to deal with your vet and your anger. I have a hard time with these issues as well. I like Junior's vet Dr Staunton. It is just I am not always able to get into see her. Dr Larrick is a country vet doing what country vets do. He admistered first aid. He is not vaccination crazy so he does not push them. I get the feeling for the most part he does not thinkl annual vaccinations are neccessary. He is a better vet for well visits. After a week on Baytril Junior's appetite is returning. I had a pet communicator speak to him the other day and she said he was weak and hollow. He said his food tasted bland. She did not know I had bought different food bc I was not where I could get his regular food. Needless to say I went by Petsmart when I got off work and got his Natural Choice, not in the recall. He does not like chunks, thank God. This morning his appetite was back. He got his wet food with supplements and then went on to eat dry food. Which he has not done for a while. Keep the prayers and good vibes for Junior as I will do for Fred and all the rest of our precious cats in need. Good Luck with the visit. Sally and Junior On 3/23/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, I'm really struggling to keep my anger under control. Fred as you know has not been doing well the last few days and I took him in Tuesday and found out his blood pressure is sky high again. Well while I was there I asked the vet if she had checked his tube entry site because for the last week there have been several occasions when I thought I felt some swelling again, but at other times I wasn't sure. Well she assured me she had and it was fine ... last night I was scratching him under his chin and found a huge lump under there again, NO mistaking it there was something there!!! Well I guess I know now part of the reason he is feeling so crappy and not bouncing back. Those who have read my last few messages about our situation know about us battling this infection for about a month and a half. They were giving me clavamox even though the second time it came back he had been on and still was on it for 2 weeks. I'm so upset and angry I am really going to be struggling to not go in there and start screaming at everyone! *The vet I saw Tuesday obviously flat out lied to me, there is NO way she could have checked the site like she said and missed that.* Fred has been miserable more often than not for over a month and a half because of this infection. He's very depressed now and it's going to make it that much harder to get him over this now. I have an appointment at 11:30 just to check his blood pressure, I made it before I found the lump, but am calling the second they open and telling them I want to see Dr. Munson the minute she walks in the door, her first appointment will have to wait, as far as I'm concerned this is an emergency and this time they are going to get it right The lump is three bigger than it has ever been and I know Fred is fed up and feeling pretty crappy, I hope he can find the fight to get over this hump, please, please send him prayers for strength and the will to keep fighting. My question, how do I go in there and remain sane, rational and control myself because I just want to go in there and tell everyone how incompetent I think they are but NOT before we get this infection dealt with and under control?? Please pray that I can control myself so I can get the care Fred needs. The vet I'm seeing today is one of two I haven't seen while we have been dealing with all this so hopefully she will earn my trust and know what the hell she is doing. Help me guys get my state of mind in a positive frame, it is going to be really hard this time! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.com
Re: Interesting article about cat health and cleansing their bodies
I would be VERY cautious of taking advice from someone who is selling something. Vets, I don't belive always give the right treatment either, but it must be very hard for them to diagnose a patient that can not tell them what is wrong, plus they deal with various species, not like a human doctor that only deals with one. I do hope Slink recovers, but some times miracle cures are not true miracles - just scams. I recall a doctor once saying something about herbs - she said "they could be good for you, but since no real research has been done why take the risk and chance making yourself even sicker?" I honestly think domestication is what has made cats sicker these days. As humans we try to improve their lives and alot of things I thnk isn't as good as we would like to think - like food and additives, flea medicines, vitamin supplements, enviroment... We love our babies and we can only do so much. Please keep trying and trust that whatever happens - there is some higher purpose. Our prayers go out to you and Slink. Debbie -Original Message- From: Marissa Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Mar 23, 2007 8:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Interesting article about cat health and cleansing their bodies What do people think of this? I'm feeling so overwhelmed right now - wanting to do anything I can to save Slink and not knowing what's best. Seems everything you read says something different. I think I'd feel better about this article if it weren't written by the people selling the products. But...what do people think? Re: Slink...His temp spiked again last night. :( But it's down to 103.6 this morning. Last night when I went to bed he got up and went under the bed all the way back in the corner and sat there. I really thought maybe he was getting ready to leave me. So I crawled under the bed and petted and kissed him a bit...but didn't want to bring him up to the bed if he wanted to be alone (trying to respect his wishes...so hard but I know it's best). I did pull the rug he was lying on a little closer to the front of the bed. I checked on him a few times during the night and he's still hangin' in there. He's up on the bed with me now. But..was a long night for mom!!! I ordered the IR and have an appointment tonight to start it. I am staying home today because now it appears that I'M getting sick! :( Thanks for all the prayers and support for Slink! I'll keep you updated. MJwendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might be interested in this article that wasposted on the hyper T website about cleansing a cat'ssystem. I couldn't post the whole article as it'svery long (here's the rest of it:http://www.petmedicinechest.com/feline/discussions/chronicsicknesstext.asp.)Any thoughts on this article?:)Wendy Dear Fellow Cat Lover, So your precious cat has been sick for months and months or possibly even years. There is no way you are willing to give up on your kitty. You have tried all the drugs the Vet has prescribed. Your kitty is fed up with you stuffing chemicals down its throat and might even be to the point of not eating anything you are giving because he/she no longer trusts you. Now what are you going to do? Let your kitty die? Never! Your kitty may have just been diagnosed with hyper or hypo-thyroid disease. Your cat is sick of being sick. You are sick because you are trying everything and your cat is getting even sicker. Your Vet wants to put your precious furry friend through all sorts of torture and drugs. Relax, you have just found the most important site on the internet to help you help bring your little life-long companion back to health, vitality and happiness. If you took the effort to research and seek us out, you are our kind of person. One who cares so much for the welfare of their cat, that they will do whatever it takes to bring their cat back to health in spite of all the "expert help" you both have been given. Guess what? It doesn't take nearly as much as you might think. It takes: a.. Diligence on your part. b.. A fresh perspective about animal health--eliminating the concept that drugs are the road to health that all of us have been led to believe over the past forty to fifty years and which you see with your own eyes how well they don't work. c.. The initiative to make the changes that are essential in the recovery of your cat's health and well being and to stick with those changes. d.. It does NOT take a lot of money either. Our little ones are doing fine thanks to you guys. Please never give up this battle to inform the public of your great products. Without them, my pets would have died a long time ago. They not only lived longer, but in better health than they ever had. I mean ever!! Thank you, Gail H. and family, New York WHAT YOU NEED TO DO First, you need to bring your cat's immune system that has been so severely suppressed back up and into good working condition. Second, you need to rebuild all the flora that has been killed in your
Re: Hammy
Prayers going out for you all and especially for Hammy. elizabeth On 3/22/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all could you please send prayers and good vibes to one of our newest Sids kids,he is having a difficult time and is at Dr Jens house where her 11 year old son is helping taking extra care of him.He is felv+.Thanks everyone. Sherry -- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to lovehttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49980/*http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265%0A (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49980/*http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265%0A
Re: Hammy
I will be praying for Hammy. On 3/23/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Prayers going out for you all and especially for Hammy. elizabeth On 3/22/07, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all could you please send prayers and good vibes to one of our newest Sids kids,he is having a difficult time and is at Dr Jens house where her 11 year old son is helping taking extra care of him.He is felv+.Thanks everyone. Sherry -- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to lovehttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49980/*http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265%0A (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49980/*http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265%0A -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Kitty crying in the night
Kelley, What i s the latest on this poor boy? (Name? Pam
Re: vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?
I would vaccinate my fiv's. Unless they are sick, I don't think it will hurt them. Just my opinion from dealing with both for over 15 years. tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have two FIV+ cats in our household, one of whom has previously been vaccinated against FeLV. The other is a recent foster care arrival. We are considering bringing in a cat who MAY have been exposed to FeLV. She has tested negative on an Elisa but exposure is recent enough, and Elisa inaccurate enough, that I'd rather be safe and vaccinate the current foster cat (already FIV+) before she arrives. (The rest of the household is already vaccinated.) Thoughts, recommendations? Lynette =^..^= The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way in which its animals are treated. --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948
Re: Kitty crying in the night
Hi Pam, His name is Obsidian. The last I heard he had made it through the night better. I am hesitant to call and check on him because I get the sense she doesn't want to be checked on every day. We are thinking he may not have liked the litterbox setup. Kelley On 3/23/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, What i s the latest on this poor boy? (Name? Pam -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
To Marissa
Hey Marissa, I feel kind of bad now sending that out. If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have because stuff like this does tend to stress out people who are already stressed about their pet's health. I apologize. I am not sure what to think about it. I am interested in what other people think as well. I agree that the people who are trying to sell this stuff have a vested interest, but I also know people who are health fanatics who do the same type of cleansing things. And it's also scary to think about trying to do something new while getting Slinky's body back under control. I would be weary at this point, and if you feel like doing more research, looking into it couldn't hurt. Let me know if you find anything corroborating it. Veterinarians have a vested interest in this article not being true because they lose business when animals are healthy. I am so sorry you and Slinky are going through this right now. It's SO hard-worrying about your furbaby 24/7. But you are right to try to be in tune with what Slinky wants and respecting his space and wishes. That's very big of you because it's so hard to do, and not all of us are good at it. It's not surprising you are getting sick with all the stress and lack of sleep. Take care of yourself while you're taking care of Slinky. I keep thinking about him all throughout the week. I so want the little guy to rally and pull through. I am hoping the IR really helps. :) Wendy --- Marissa Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do people think of this? I'm feeling so overwhelmed right now - wanting to do anything I can to save Slink and not knowing what's best. Seems everything you read says something different. I think I'd feel better about this article if it weren't written by the people selling the products. But...what do people think? Re: Slink...His temp spiked again last night. :( But it's down to 103.6 this morning. Last night when I went to bed he got up and went under the bed all the way back in the corner and sat there. I really thought maybe he was getting ready to leave me. So I crawled under the bed and petted and kissed him a bit...but didn't want to bring him up to the bed if he wanted to be alone (trying to respect his wishes...so hard but I know it's best). I did pull the rug he was lying on a little closer to the front of the bed. I checked on him a few times during the night and he's still hangin' in there. He's up on the bed with me now. But..was a long night for mom!!! I ordered the IR and have an appointment tonight to start it. I am staying home today because now it appears that I'M getting sick! :( Thanks for all the prayers and support for Slink! I'll keep you updated. MJ wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might be interested in this article that was posted on the hyper T website about cleansing a cat's system. I couldn't post the whole article as it's very long (here's the rest of it: http://www.petmedicinechest.com/feline/discussions/chronicsicknesstext.asp.) Any thoughts on this article? :) Wendy Dear Fellow Cat Lover, So your precious cat has been sick for months and months or possibly even years. There is no way you are willing to give up on your kitty. You have tried all the drugs the Vet has prescribed. Your kitty is fed up with you stuffing chemicals down its throat and might even be to the point of not eating anything you are giving because he/she no longer trusts you. Now what are you going to do? Let your kitty die? Never! Your kitty may have just been diagnosed with hyper or hypo-thyroid disease. Your cat is sick of being sick. You are sick because you are trying everything and your cat is getting even sicker. Your Vet wants to put your precious furry friend through all sorts of torture and drugs. Relax, you have just found the most important site on the internet to help you help bring your little life-long companion back to health, vitality and happiness. If you took the effort to research and seek us out, you are our kind of person. One who cares so much for the welfare of their cat, that they will do whatever it takes to bring their cat back to health in spite of all the expert help you both have been given. Guess what? It doesn't take nearly as much as you might think. It takes: a.. Diligence on your part. b.. A fresh perspective about animal health--eliminating the concept that drugs are the road to health that all of us have been led to believe over the past forty to fifty years and which you see with your own eyes how well they don't work. c.. The initiative to make the changes that are essential in the recovery of your cat's health and well being and to stick with those changes. d.. It does NOT take a lot of money either. Our little ones are doing fine thanks to you guys. Please never give up this battle to
pet-food contaminant found?
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RE: pet-food contaminant found?
Just got an e-mail from Wellness saying SOME of their foods are made at Menu plant but not to worry-they don't use wheat!!! Arg-just got 5 cases of Wellness. I did write back and ask which foods were made at Menu---but I guess tonight it's a home cooked meal for the guys! Chris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pet-food contaminant found? for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912 http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
RE: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced
It wasn't wheatbut RAT poisonthey just announced it...I'd be a bit concerned as to WHERE the poison entered the food.. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got an e-mail from Wellness saying SOME of their foods are made at Menu plant but not to worrythey dont use wheat!!! Argjust got 5 cases of Wellness I did write back and ask which foods were made at Menu---but I guess tonight its a home cooked meal for the guys! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pet-food contaminant found? for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
Re: pet-food contaminant found?
Does anyone know if A/D or Royal Canin Veterinary Recovery or whoever the heck makes MaxCal are affected? On 3/23/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got an e-mail from Wellness saying SOME of their foods are made at Menu plant but not to worry—they don't use wheat!!! Arg—just got 5 cases of Wellness… I did write back and ask which foods were made at Menu---but I guess tonight it's a home cooked meal for the guys! *Chris* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *TenHouseCats *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 12:04 PM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* pet-food contaminant found? for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
RE: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced
I'm assuming the rat poison was put down in the wheat--while growing or while being stored. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara stickler Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:15 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced It wasn't wheatbut RAT poisonthey just announced it...I'd be a bit concerned as to WHERE the poison entered the food.. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got an e-mail from Wellness saying SOME of their foods are made at Menu plant but not to worry-they don't use wheat!!! Arg-just got 5 cases of Wellness... I did write back and ask which foods were made at Menu---but I guess tonight it's a home cooked meal for the guys! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pet-food contaminant found? for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 _ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49938/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar /features/mail/ alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49937/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar /features/mail/ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced
don't know for certain, but most likely sprayed on before shipping...to keep
rats away in cargo hold??? Its illegal in US...prob. why Menu foods used the
new vendor..because they were offering the wheat so cheap! Don't know if
they knew WHY it was so cheap...don't know if the company inquired or even
caredjust a way to pad the profits most likely. ...Don'tcha just LOVE
corporations???
MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I'm assuming the rat
poison was put down in the wheat--while growing or while being stored.
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It wasn't wheatbut RAT poisonthey just announced it...I'd be a bit
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Re: pet-food contaminant found?
Royal Canin had their OWN recall back in Octsomething about using too much Vitamin D, the high levels contributed to kidney failure. But that wasn't linked to this Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if A/D or Royal Canin Veterinary Recovery or whoever the heck makes MaxCal are affected? On 3/23/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got an e-mail from Wellness saying SOME of their foods are made at Menu plant but not to worrythey don't use wheat!!! Argjust got 5 cases of Wellness I did write back and ask which foods were made at Menu---but I guess tonight it's a home cooked meal for the guys! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pet-food contaminant found? for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia - Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut.
Re: pet-food contaminant found?
Royal Canin had their OWN recall back in Octsomething about using too much Vitamin D, the high levels contributed to kidney failure. But that wasn't linked to this Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if A/D or Royal Canin Veterinary Recovery or whoever the heck makes MaxCal are affected? On 3/23/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got an e-mail from Wellness saying SOME of their foods are made at Menu plant but not to worrythey don't use wheat!!! Argjust got 5 cases of Wellness I did write back and ask which foods were made at Menu---but I guess tonight it's a home cooked meal for the guys! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pet-food contaminant found? for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia - Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.
Re: pet-food contaminant found?
Royal Canin had their OWN recall back in Octsomething about using too much Vitamin D, the high levels contributed to kidney failure. But that wasn't linked to this Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if A/D or Royal Canin Veterinary Recovery or whoever the heck makes MaxCal are affected? On 3/23/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got an e-mail from Wellness saying SOME of their foods are made at Menu plant but not to worrythey don't use wheat!!! Argjust got 5 cases of Wellness I did write back and ask which foods were made at Menu---but I guess tonight it's a home cooked meal for the guys! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pet-food contaminant found? for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
Re: pet-food contaminant found?
Royal Canin had their OWN recall back in Octsomething about using too much Vitamin D, the high levels contributed to kidney failure. But that wasn't linked to this Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if A/D or Royal Canin Veterinary Recovery or whoever the heck makes MaxCal are affected? On 3/23/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got an e-mail from Wellness saying SOME of their foods are made at Menu plant but not to worrythey don't use wheat!!! Argjust got 5 cases of Wellness I did write back and ask which foods were made at Menu---but I guess tonight it's a home cooked meal for the guys! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pet-food contaminant found? for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia - Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games.
Re: pet-food contaminant found?
I just got the RC at the vets 2 days ago. On 3/23/07, tamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Royal Canin had their OWN recall back in Octsomething about using too much Vitamin D, the high levels contributed to kidney failure. But that wasn't linked to this *Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Does anyone know if A/D or Royal Canin Veterinary Recovery or whoever the heck makes MaxCal are affected? On 3/23/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got an e-mail from Wellness saying SOME of their foods are made at Menu plant but not to worry—they don't use wheat!!! Arg—just got 5 cases of Wellness… I did write back and ask which foods were made at Menu---but I guess tonight it's a home cooked meal for the guys! *Chris* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *TenHouseCats *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 12:04 PM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* pet-food contaminant found? for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia -- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49936/*http://videogames.yahoo.com -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Joey! http://rescuties.chipin.com/joey-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia
Re: Interesting article about cat health and cleansing their bodies
Marissa, I'm skeptical too. I would do a great deal of research and investigation before trying something like this on a sick fur kid. Some of the advice seems sound in general terms, but you'd need to know specifics about which herbs are being used as there can be interactions with allopathic meds. How's that for I don't know? Wendy, how did you find this company? Were they recommended to you by someone that uses their products? I'm hopeful about the IR helping Slink. Several people on the list have had good results treating fever spikes with it. Please take care of yourself too Marissa. Being stressed out over Slinky and all you are going through, it's no small wonder that you are getting sick yourself. When you feel yourself becoming anxious, remember that you, Slink, and so many others supporting you, are doing everything possible to help Slink recover. When you feel your blood pressure rising, talk yourself down from the ledge and calm yourself with visualizing Slinky happy, healthy and playful. Blessings to you, Nina Marissa Johnson wrote: What do people think of this? I'm feeling so overwhelmed right now - wanting to do anything I can to save Slink and not knowing what's best. Seems everything you read says something different. I think I'd feel better about this article if it weren't written by the people selling the products. But...what do people think? Re: Slink...His temp spiked again last night. :( But it's down to 103.6 this morning. Last night when I went to bed he got up and went under the bed all the way back in the corner and sat there. I really thought maybe he was getting ready to leave me. So I crawled under the bed and petted and kissed him a bit...but didn't want to bring him up to the bed if he wanted to be alone (trying to respect his wishes...so hard but I know it's best). I did pull the rug he was lying on a little closer to the front of the bed. I checked on him a few times during the night and he's still hangin' in there. He's up on the bed with me now. But..was a long night for mom!!! I ordered the IR and have an appointment tonight to start it. I am staying home today because now it appears that I'M getting sick! :( Thanks for all the prayers and support for Slink! I'll keep you updated. MJ
RE: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced
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RE: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced
News conf on CNN right now! Chris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara stickler Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced don't know for certain, but most likely sprayed on before shipping...to keep rats away in cargo hold??? Its illegal in US...prob. why Menu foods used the new vendor..because they were offering the wheat so cheap! Don't know if they knew WHY it was so cheap...don't know if the company inquired or even caredjust a way to pad the profits most likely. ...Don'tcha just LOVE corporations??? MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm assuming the rat poison was put down in the wheat--while growing or while being stored. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tamara stickler Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:15 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced It wasn't wheatbut RAT poisonthey just announced it...I'd be a bit concerned as to WHERE the poison entered the food.. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FeLVTalk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: pet-food contaminant found? for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912 http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 _ Never http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49938/*http:/tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/feat ures/mail/ miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49937/*http:/tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/feat ures/mail/ Check it out. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. _ Now that's room service! Choose http://travel.yahoo.com/hotelsearchpage;_ylc=X3oDMTFtaTIzNXVjBF9TAzk3NDA3NT g5BF9zAzI3MTk0ODEEcG9zAzIEc2VjA21haWx0YWdsaW5lBHNsawNxMS0wNw--%0d%0a from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.
Re: pet-food contaminant found?
The fact that this substance is not legal for use in the US has me very concerned. Is this because Menu Foods is based in Canada? I'd like to see some information on exactly how that poison got into the food. Call me paranoid but in this day and age, accidents seem a lot less likely. elizabeth On 3/23/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Fred - Crisis, prayers needed please
Belinda, I'm behind on my email - how is Fred today? Love and prayers for you both. elizabeth On 3/22/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Fred my CRF furkid is having some problems, I took him in to the vet last night because he gave out a meow that sounded like nothing he has ever done before and when he tried to stand and walk he did about a half turn and then plopped back to the rug and his front feet were twitching. He's been twitching off and on for a while. He's been on Norvasc for high blood pressure for a while but apparently his dose is no longer high enough, his BP was 230 at the vets yesterday. I called the vet in while he was twitching and she is very concerned about his BP, she told me to give him double his dose when I got home, he had already had his usual dose that morning. Then she said to give his regular dose in this AM and another dose in the afternoon today. He will get double what he's been getting from now on. I didn't feed or mess with him the rest of the night yesterday, and he twitched off and on all night. He was very unsteady on his feet and slept for the most part. This morning he is not himself still. He is not as unsteady and not twitching that I've noticed yet but seems very slow and just looks like he doesn't feel good. I gave him his metachloprimide and am going to feed him shortly, I'm going to wait and give him his BP med close to the time the vet opens so if I have to run him down they will be open, they open at 6:30AM, it's 6AM now. Please pray that whatever is going on, hopefully it is just his BP and the increased BP meds will control it, if not, that whatever it is we'll figure it out and can help him feel better. He looks the worse he ever has since this all started. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com
Re: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced
In a message dated 3/23/07 1:05:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No excuse for this, no matter what. Hope they get the pants sued off them DITTO Patti her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: To Marissa
Marissa, Get the numbers out of your head. They won't do you any good at this point except to possibly make you feel disheartened. We all have a tendency to mourn our babies before they are gone, maybe it's sometimes necessary to prepare ourselves, but the most important thing I've found is to stay in the moment, to enjoy their physical presence. Let's face it, when we love this strongly, we are rarely prepared to let them go. So do your best to remind yourself that he's still here! It has helped me to let go of the strangle hold that expectations can cause and to just BE. To relax just a little bit and live and love in the present. Where there is life there is hope. I can also relate to how hard it is to let them be away from our physical embrace, if that is what they choose. You might want to transfer your dismay of him being under the bed to concentrating on connecting with Slink mentally when this happens. Memorize what it's like to commune with him without actually touching him. Send him conscious waves of love and know he is not isolated, he's wrapped up warm and snug in that love. Talk to him and listen for the answers that pop into your head. I don't know what your beliefs are about continuing life after this one, but I believe in it strongly. Heaven forbid he doesn't make it through this, reaching out to him without touch now may help you to connect with him when his time finally comes, (whenever that might be). There is a spot in my garage that Bruce and I have come to call the portal. We've had several cats go to this particular corner when they are in crisis. Now it may just be that they prefer it because it's a cool spot away from the commotion of our hectic household, but my first reaction is always NO! Come away from there! When I regain my composure, acceptance of whatever 'will be' brings me a sense of calm and it pleases me to think that all my furry loved ones that have transitioned may be giving my sick baby encouragement and perhaps even a preview of the wonderful world to come. Hang in there Marissa, none of us knows what is to be, Nina Marissa Johnson wrote: Hey Wendy. No problem...it is good information. Generally I believe in holistic medicine and have even thought of taking Slinky to a holistic vet (if I can afford it). I called someone yesterday to see if she could come in and do some T Touch and accupressure with him. It's just hard when you feel like everything you read says something different (I remember going through that when I was trying to figure out what to feed him). But at this point I feel like we're doing everything we can. Not so good news on the Slinky front. We just got back from he vet...took him in to give him his first shot of IR. They did another CBC to get a baseline so we can tell if the IR is helping...and his HCT is down to 7!!! It was 9 when we were there on Wed. :( But we gave him the IR and I guess all we can do now is see if it works. He seemed to perk up a bit when we got home, but nonw he's pretty much sacked out on the bed. I'm really praying for a miracle...but I know I have to love him enough to let go as well if that's what he needs. :'( It's INCREDIBLY hard to let him sit under the bed alone, but I want him to be in control of what happens with and to him, not me. He is back on the bed now...sleeping. I'm praying the IR works as I think it's the last thing we have left to try. The vet was shocked he hasn't lost weight and isn't having trouble breathing...so he seems to still be fighting. Thanks for all the GLOW! Hugs MJ Slinky ^-^
Re: pet-food contaminant found?
HI Thanks for the update. Here I am feeding a sick cat and have to worry about poisoning him. I know the cat food I feed Junior has some varieties produced at Menu foods. Now I am reading labels to make sure there is no wheat. Now just a thought about the toxicity of this compound. The was in wheat, and a small amount of wheat goes into the production of cat food, the wheat must have had a large amout of poison in it to cause acute renal failure in some animals. Scary to say the least. Hoping everyone is safe. Sally And Junior On 3/23/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for those of you who haven't seen this yet: http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912page=1 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17754681/ MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
menu foods will reimburse medical costs if.....
-- Forwarded message -- From: ABC News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 23, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Breaking News Fri., March 23, 2007 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com: PET FOOD MAKER MENU FOODS SAYS IT WILL REIMBURSE MEDICAL COSTS IF PET OWNERS CAN SHOW THEIR ANIMALS DIED FROM TAINTED FOOD. WATCH 'WORLD NEWS' FOR A FULL REPORT. http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: menu foods will reimburse medical costs if.....
How totally wonderful. I am sure that replaces the loving little friend who was lost because of their . If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; FeLVTalk ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: menu foods will reimburse medical costs if. -- Forwarded message -- From: ABC News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 23, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Breaking News Fri., March 23, 2007 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com: PET FOOD MAKER MENU FOODS SAYS IT WILL REIMBURSE MEDICAL COSTS IF PET OWNERS CAN SHOW THEIR ANIMALS DIED FROM TAINTED FOOD. WATCH 'WORLD NEWS' FOR A FULL REPORT. http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: menu foods will reimburse medical costs if.....
And I'd like to know what they consider adequate proof of a nexus between the tainted food and the illness. Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How totally wonderful. I am sure that replaces the loving little friend who was lost because of their . If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; FeLVTalk ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: menu foods will reimburse medical costs if. -- Forwarded message -- From: ABC News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 23, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Breaking News Fri., March 23, 2007 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com: PET FOOD MAKER MENU FOODS SAYS IT WILL REIMBURSE MEDICAL COSTS IF PET OWNERS CAN SHOW THEIR ANIMALS DIED FROM TAINTED FOOD. WATCH 'WORLD NEWS' FOR A FULL REPORT. http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: menu foods will reimburse medical costs if.....
My thoughts exactly... elizabeth On 3/23/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How totally wonderful. I am sure that replaces the loving little friend who was lost because of their . If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - *From:* TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; FeLVTalkFeLVTalk@felineleukemia.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 4:00 PM *Subject:* menu foods will reimburse medical costs if. -- Forwarded message -- From: ABC News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 23, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Breaking News Fri., March 23, 2007 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com: PET FOOD MAKER MENU FOODS SAYS IT WILL REIMBURSE MEDICAL COSTS IF PET OWNERS CAN SHOW THEIR ANIMALS DIED FROM TAINTED FOOD. WATCH 'WORLD NEWS' FOR A FULL REPORT. http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396 http://abcnews.go.com/?CMP=EMC-1396 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Fw: Felv + Birman cat--help us help her
Reply DIRECTLY to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as she may not have yet joined the list (though I did suggest it to her). Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources - Original Message - From: Audrey Vlasvich To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 11:24 PM Subject: Felv + Birman cat--help us help her I volunteer with a small, no kill shelter in the chicagoland area. Our kitty, Lady is felv + and has had very soft, loose stool, not diarrhea , for 1-2 months. She sits in a vet cage, without improving. We desperately need a quality foster home for her and we can't find one. We need help finding answers on how best to help her. Can you offer any tips, advise or connections? Please? thank you, A. Vlasvich A Caring Place Humane Society home number-- 708-532-7534 We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/731 - Release Date: 3/23/2007 3:27 PM
Re: Hello Again - Slinky Sick - sub-q fluid links
http://www.felinecrf.com/managh.htm http://www.felinecrf.org/giving_sub-qs_giving_set.htm http://www.fabcats.org/sq_fluid.html http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/clientED/cat_fluids.asp Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: financial aid for pet owners LINKS
http://ucat.us/FinancialAssistance.html is my page for all the financial aid services out there.. I think it's the most complete list available online (no, that's not smugness, it's confidence.. ;-) Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: To Phaewryn: Re: any other catfood suggestions (iGive and buying petfood online)
You said that you pay about $14 for a case of Innova??? Is it Evo? I pay more than double that! Is this a case of the small 24 count cans, or the 12 count larger cans? Is this online? No, it's the regular Innova, or California Natural (same price), large cans (13.2 OZ), 12 per case. I do get a rescue discount of 10% which helps a lot! My vet has their own food store, they don't mark things up like lots of retail chains do. It's still not cheap... about $1.15 a can. Online, Petfooddirect isn't too bad... and they are part of the iGive network, so all your purchases can create a donation to iGive at NO cost to you (I give to Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance through iGive). Innova canned cases: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/product_detail.asp?pf%5Fid=3021203KTdept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=9Page=mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89 Innova EVO canned cases: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/product_detail.asp?pf%5Fid=3021207KTdept%5Fid=6brand%5Fid=9Page=mscssid=AMP9W4QD50BU8PD334JJWQ8QJC9X0R89 You have to sign up for iGive before you go to petfooddirect tho, and it will give you a downloadable program called the iGive window, which redirects you automatically through iGive anytime you visit a participating retailer, and there are LOTS of good ones that participate, like petfooddirect, nationalpetpharmacy, and drsfostersmith, 1800petmeds, jefferspet, petsmart, etc. To join iGive to donate to FVEAP (like I do, it's a great program that saves lives) go to: http://www.igive.com/FVEAP To learn more about FVEAP, go to their website: http://www.fveap.org/sys-tmpl/faqaboutus/ Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: DRY FOOD Problem now too!!!!
Be careful with forwarding unconfirmed reports like this. There is mention of unconfirmed problems with Iams dry on http://www.howl911.com/ but until lab analysis it is too easy to spread rumors and create unnecessary fear. I personally am avoiding anything that has been manufactured by Menu Foods. And I'd like to know who else may have received wheat from China in recent months. Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was forwarded to me by some one I personally know and know is reliable: This was just forwarded to me it's apparently not just wet food making pets sick ** Hello everyone, I just wanted to give you a little more info on the food recall. I was feeding Nutro Max small bites (DRY) to my 3 Aussies and 1 Corgi. For the last 3 weeks on and off all 4 dogs have vomited yellow bile. I did not think much of it because it was on and off...maybe they were eating snow...whatever. Then the recall...only wet? My brother called me on Sunday on the way back from the Rescue show and his 10 yr old Sheltie spayed bitch was vomiting bile on and off for a few days and now has blood in her urine. They brought in a UA and dog is being treated for a UA infection. Yesterday he called me and his male-13 month old German Shepherd has blood in its urine...guess what...feeding DRY Nutro Max. Another UA to vets. No infection. The dispatcher at the police department where I work over heard me talking to my brother...she has 2 mixes on Nutro Ultra DRY...they have been vomiting bile on and off for about 4 weeks. A women in my obedience class...her mother has a Terrier on Nutro All Natural DRY...dog is being treated for blood in urine. The dispatcher called the FDA today and spoke with Bill Boiven (Spelling) at 781-596-7783. She gave him all our info and he contacted me. Guess what!!! They have already started to launch an investigation on the dry dog food. They are getting millions of phone calls about this. He did tell me that the foods are processed by 2 different manufactures but this is way to coincidental. Yes I have now put my dogs on boiled rice, hamburger and Wellness. Just thought some of you might want to know and maybe call if you are having problems. Seems to be more wide spread than wet or canned. Thanks Alicia Campbell Moonstone Shepherds I found this on the FDA's website: New England District, (NWE-DO) , One Montvale Ave., 4th Floor, Stoneham, MA 02180 Main Number (781) 596-7700, Emergency (after hours) Answering Service (781) 939-2380, Main FAX (781) 596-7896 Gail T. Costello, District Director, HFR-NE200, (781) 596-7717 FAX (781) 596-7896 Mutahar Shamsi, Dir. Comp. Branch, HFR-NE240, (781) 596-7899 Linda Muccioli, Dir. MPSB., HFR-NE230, (781) 596-7896 Mary B. Yebba, Public Affairs Specialist, HFR-NE245, (781) 596-7896 Michael R. Kravchuk, Dir. Invest. Branch, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7799 FAX (781) 596-7896 William S. Boivin, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7783 FAX (781) 596-7896 Sylvia A. Craven, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7718 FAX (781) 596-7868 Gary J. Hagan, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7734 FAX (781) 596-7896 Frank J. Mazzoni, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7785 FAX (781) 596-7896 Christopher VanTwuyver, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7754 FAX (781) 596-7896 http://www.fda.gov/ora/inspect_ref/iom/IOMORADIR_2.html
RE: DRY FOOD Problem now too!!!!
Cross contamination can occur from using the same equipment and supplies, not just from using the same raw inngredients. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Oh this is not good! Also, Wellness used Menu to manufacture their food but said they had their own suppliers not to worry about cross contamination I just dont know! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: DRY FOOD Problem now too This was forwarded to me by some one I personally know and know is reliable: This was just forwarded to me it's apparently not just wet food making pets sick ** Hello everyone, I just wanted to give you a little more info on the food recall. I was feeding Nutro Max small bites (DRY) to my 3 Aussies and 1 Corgi. For the last 3 weeks on and off all 4 dogs have vomited yellow bile. I did not think much of it because it was on and off...maybe they were eating snow...whatever. Then the recall...only wet? My brother called me on Sunday on the way back from the Rescue show and his 10 yr old Sheltie spayed bitch was vomiting bile on and off for a few days and now has blood in her urine. They brought in a UA and dog is being treated for a UA infection. Yesterday he called me and his male-13 month old German Shepherd has blood in its urine...guess what...feeding DRY Nutro Max. Another UA to vets. No infection. The dispatcher at the police department where I work over heard me talking to my brother...she has 2 mixes on Nutro Ultra DRY...they have been vomiting bile on and off for about 4 weeks. A women in my obedience class...her mother has a Terrier on Nutro All Natural DRY...dog is being treated for blood in urine. The dispatcher called the FDA today and spoke with Bill Boiven (Spelling) at 781-596-7783. She gave him all our info and he contacted me. Guess what!!! They have already started to launch an investigation on the dry dog food. They are getting millions of phone calls about this. He did tell me that the foods are processed by 2 different manufactures but this is way to coincidental. Yes I have now put my dogs on boiled rice, hamburger and Wellness. Just thought some of you might want to know and maybe call if you are having problems. Seems to be more wide spread than wet or canned. Thanks Alicia Campbell Moonstone Shepherds I found this on the FDA's website: New England District, (NWE-DO) , One Montvale Ave., 4th Floor, Stoneham, MA 02180 Main Number (781) 596-7700, Emergency (after hours) Answering Service (781) 939-2380, Main FAX (781) 596-7896 Gail T. Costello, District Director, HFR-NE200, (781) 596-7717 FAX (781) 596-7896 Mutahar Shamsi, Dir. Comp. Branch, HFR-NE240, (781) 596-7899 Linda Muccioli, Dir. MPSB., HFR-NE230, (781) 596-7896 Mary B. Yebba, Public Affairs Specialist, HFR-NE245, (781) 596-7896 Michael R. Kravchuk, Dir. Invest. Branch, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7799 FAX (781) 596-7896 William S. Boivin, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7783 FAX (781) 596-7896 Sylvia A. Craven, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7718 FAX (781) 596-7868 Gary J. Hagan, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7734 FAX (781) 596-7896 Frank J. Mazzoni, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7785 FAX (781) 596-7896 Christopher VanTwuyver, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7754 FAX (781) 596-7896 http://www.fda.gov/ora/inspect_ref/iom/IOMORADIR_2.html
Re: menu foods will reimburse medical costs if.....
I will be spending part of my weekend emailing a few cat food suppliers to make sure they understand that I -- and presumably other consumers -- are boycotting Menu Foods because of this. I won't touch anything manufactured by Menu Foods. Period. You would think they would be a little more cautious about wheat supplied by a new supplier, especially coming from China. elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good point! I think this is huge...and it is unthinkably horrible. I hope beyond reason that if one good thing come out of this horror may it be that the quality of products that go into cat food improves. elizabeth On 3/23/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I'd like to know what they consider adequate proof of a nexus between the tainted food and the illness. Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How totally wonderful. I am sure that replaces the loving little friend who was lost because of their . If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: TenHouseCats To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; FeLVTalk ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: menu foods will reimburse medical costs if. -- Forwarded message -- From: ABC News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 23, 2007 4:56 PM Subject: Breaking News Fri., March 23, 2007 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com: PET FOOD MAKER MENU FOODS SAYS IT WILL REIMBURSE MEDICAL COSTS IF PET OWNERS CAN SHOW THEIR ANIMALS DIED FROM TAINTED FOOD. WATCH 'WORLD NEWS' FOR A FULL REPORT. http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396 -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: Questions on Interferon
I had this same problem, my vet made me a whole bag (as in saline IV bag), and I was unable to use it before it expired. One thing to consider, offer to donate part to a local rescue group that accepts FELV or FIV cats (if you have any near you). It wont be any cheaper for you, but at least the waste would be going to a good cause. :-) Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: DRY FOOD Problem now too!!!!
i agree with susan on both of her last posts--doesn't have to have the wheat in it to have been near it and while i respect belinda's judgment a lot, i, too, am VERY nervous about putting something like this out in public. PLEASE crosspost this or share it very discriminately On 3/23/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cross contamination can occur from using the same equipment and supplies, not just from using the same raw inngredients. *Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Oh this is not good! Also, Wellness used Menu to manufacture their food but said they had their own suppliers not to worry about cross contamination… I just don't know! *Chris* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Belinda *Sent:* Friday, March 23, 2007 10:58 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* DRY FOOD Problem now too *This was forwarded to me by some one I personally know and know is reliable:* This was just forwarded to me it's apparently not just wet food making pets sick ** Hello everyone, I just wanted to give you a little more info on the food recall. I was feeding Nutro Max small bites (DRY) to my 3 Aussies and 1 Corgi. For the last 3 weeks on and off all 4 dogs have vomited yellow bile. I did not think much of it because it was on and off...maybe they were eating snow...whatever. Then the recall...only wet? My brother called me on Sunday on the way back from the Rescue show and his 10 yr old Sheltie spayed bitch was vomiting bile on and off for a few days and now has blood in her urine. They brought in a UA and dog is being treated for a UA infection. Yesterday he called me and his male-13 month old German Shepherd has blood in its urine...guess what...feeding DRY Nutro Max. Another UA to vets. No infection. The dispatcher at the police department where I work over heard me talking to my brother...she has 2 mixes on Nutro Ultra DRY...they have been vomiting bile on and off for about 4 weeks. A women in my obedience class...her mother has a Terrier on Nutro All Natural DRY...dog is being treated for blood in urine. The dispatcher called the FDA today and spoke with Bill Boiven (Spelling) at 781-596-7783. She gave him all our info and he contacted me. Guess what!!! They have already started to launch an investigation on the dry dog food. They are getting millions of phone calls about this. He did tell me that the foods are processed by 2 different manufactures but this is way to coincidental. Yes I have now put my dogs on boiled rice, hamburger and Wellness. Just thought some of you might want to know and maybe call if you are having problems. Seems to be more wide spread than wet or canned. Thanks Alicia Campbell Moonstone Shepherds *I found this on the FDA's website:* *New England District, (NWE-DO) , One Montvale Ave., 4th Floor, Stoneham, MA 02180* Main Number (781) 596-7700, Emergency (after hours) Answering Service (781) 939-2380, Main FAX (781) 596-7896 Gail T. Costello, District Director, HFR-NE200, (781) 596-7717 FAX (781) 596-7896 Mutahar Shamsi, Dir. Comp. Branch, HFR-NE240, (781) 596-7899 Linda Muccioli, Dir. MPSB., HFR-NE230, (781) 596-7896 Mary B. Yebba, Public Affairs Specialist, HFR-NE245, (781) 596-7896 Michael R. Kravchuk, Dir. Invest. Branch, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7799 FAX (781) 596-7896 *William S. Boivin, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7783 FAX (781) 596-7896* Sylvia A. Craven, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7718 FAX (781) 596-7868 Gary J. Hagan, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7734 FAX (781) 596-7896 Frank J. Mazzoni, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7785 FAX (781) 596-7896 Christopher VanTwuyver, Supervisor, HFR-NE250, (781) 596-7754 FAX (781) 596-7896 http://www.fda.gov/ora/inspect_ref/iom/IOMORADIR_2.html -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
Now that I have read more of the topics... Whitey did this his first week here... when I had him quarantined in the bathroom. As soon as he was able to come into our room at night, he was happy. Of course, since then, we've discovered he's a toe attacker, so he's now been booted out at night... it hurts to wake up with bloody toes in the middle of the night! I think the nighttime howling is a fairly common thing for cats that are totally in a new place, it is their way of comforting themselves, I suppose. I realize that sleep is essential, but I'm still of the opinion that it's not nice to want to surrender the cat just because of the lack of sleep. God forbid this person ever became a parent of a HUMAN baby, LOL! She'd kill herself, LOL! Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
yeah, that's me--keen powers of the obvious seriously tho, i've always suspected that crying behavior in a new environment is sort of like a sonar-thing, too the cat is trying to locate themselves in time and space, and listening to hear where he is by how his own voice bounces back defining their new boundaries, maybe? and it makes sense in terms of older cats who get lost in their own houses and cry and cry, too. (well, it makes sense to me.) On 3/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: earplugs.. LOLOLOL! MC, you are so smart... and good at pointing out the obvious when no-one else sees it, LOL! I missed you while I was gone! Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Here are the instructions for setting your account to no mail on this type of list
Here are the instructions for setting your account to no mail on this type of list. Everyone might want to save this, as it may come in handy someday! (you never know when someone may decide that they need to be instantly removed and come begging for this info while I am offline, LOL) Go to this page: http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/Felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Scroll down to the bottom, and see where it has an area to enter your email address right below where it says To unsubscribe from Felvtalk, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options enter your subscription email address Enter your email address there, and click the button beside it that says unsubscribe or edit options. That will take you to another page. The TOP place to enter anything on that page is for your password, enter your password there, and click the button under it that says log in. (NOTE that if you do not know, or have forgotten your password, the option to have it mailed to you is ALSO on this page, at the bottom!) This takes you to a page that has lots of different things on it. There are headings in yellowish/tanish colored areas, look for these, find the 4th row down, the one that says Your Felvtalk Subscription Options, below that one there are areas that are darker grey, the first one says this: Mail delivery Set this option to Enabled to receive messages posted to this mailing list. Set it to Disabled if you want to stay subscribed, but don't want mail delivered to you for a while (e.g. you're going on vacation). If you disable mail delivery, don't forget to re-enable it when you come back; it will not be automatically re-enabled. There are little checkboxes beside that, click the one that says disabled, and then scroll down to the bottom of the page and click the button that says submit my changes. That should be all you have to do, and you wont get any more mail after the changes go through (give it a few hours to take effect). When you come back, go to the same pages, and do the same thing, except, instead of clicking the disabled box, click the Enabled box instead, and then you will begin to get the list emails again. Hope that helps! I would think it should be obvious by this point, if you truly wish to UNSUBSCRIBE, just go up to step one above, and choose the UNSUBSCRIBE option rather than going through the full process to set to no mail delivery. :-) Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: ahh, nothing like being offline for over a week....
Thanks Elizabeth! Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: DRY FOOD Problem now too!!!! China (note, if you LIKE China, don't read this post)
My outlook on the issue, yet ONE MORE reason to stop ALL TRADE with China! First it's boiling cats ALIVE to make SOUP, then it's illegal DOG and CAT FUR being imported into our country with misrepresented labels (they are often skinned ALIVE), then it's toxic pet food ingredients. It's like China isn't content with keeping their killing of pets to their OWN country, they have to bring it to OURS too! The answer... no trade with CHINA! Write your representatives! I wont even mention the atrocities in Tibet... Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
I must somehow record Tigger at bath time, you've never heard a noise like he makes, LOL! Sonar indeed! Personally, I think it's kitty voo-doo, he's casting some terrible spell that will render me harmless and save him from the terrors of the sink! Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: OT - HELP, Cat crying all night long.
well, it hasn't worked yet, so he'll need to try a lot harder! fleaing On 3/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must somehow record Tigger at bath time, you've never heard a noise like he makes, LOL! Sonar indeed! Personally, I think it's kitty voo-doo, he's casting some terrible spell that will render me harmless and save him from the terrors of the sink! Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: DRY FOOD Problem now too!!!! China (note, if you LIKE China, don't read this post)
UM... It was our Govenor Dougles that was just on TV yesterday bragging how much trade Vermont did with China... And how good it was for us Maybe Vermont could vote to impeach him too Tad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My outlook on the issue, yet ONE MORE reason to stop ALL TRADE with China! First it's boiling cats ALIVE to make SOUP, then it's illegal DOG and CAT FUR being imported into our country with misrepresented labels (they are often skinned ALIVE), then it's toxic pet food ingredients. It's like China isn't content with keeping their killing of pets to their OWN country, they have to bring it to OURS too! The answer... no trade with CHINA! Write your representatives! I wont even mention the atrocities in Tibet... Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
another good pet food recall website with updated info
http://www.petconnection.com/blog/category/2007-food-recall/ This one has self-reported numbers of pets who have died... and updates on the plant that was the source of the contamination... it's finally shutting down... for a few days. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:O'Gwynn;Jenn;Phaewryn;Ms. FN:Jenn Phaewryn O'Gwynn NICKNAME:Phaewryn ORG:Little Cheetah Cat Rescue;operations/field work TITLE:Cat Rescuer NOTE:I rescue cats. I run a small personal rescue operation, all on my own, and out of pocket. Donations appreciated at any time! Paypal donations can be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or send donations via check or money order to Jennifer O'Guin, PO Box 1008, Hardwick VT. 05843 TEL;WORK;VOICE:802-472-8628 TEL;HOME;VOICE:802 472-8628 ADR;WORK:;home office;;Hardwick;VT.;05843;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:home office=0D=0AHardwick, VT. 05843=0D=0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;P.O. Box 1008;Hardwick;Vermont;05843;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:P.O. Box 1008=0D=0AHardwick, Vermont 05843=0D=0AUSA X-WAB-GENDER:1 URL;HOME:http://ucat.us URL;WORK:http://ucat.us/adopt.html BDAY:19750928 EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EMAIL;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] REV:20070324T034754Z END:VCARD
Re: another good pet food recall website with updated info
ahh, ok cool. I got it from the BCR yahoogroup... they are actively discussing it there too. A couple of them have sick cats and are suspecting the cause as the food they were feeding. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: DRY FOOD Problem now too!!!!
I just think under the circumstances its better to be safe than sorry: http://www.gothamist.com/2007/03/17/pet_food_recall.php#comment-1043832 http://www.gothamist.com/2007/03/17/pet_food_recall.php#comment-1043922 http://www.gothamist.com/2007/03/17/pet_food_recall.php#comment-1044125 http://www.gothamist.com/2007/03/17/pet_food_recall.php#comment-1044303 http://www.gothamist.com/2007/03/17/pet_food_recall.php#comment-1044346 http://www.gothamist.com/2007/03/17/pet_food_recall.php#comment-1044596 http://www.gothamist.com/2007/03/17/pet_food_recall.php#comment-1044661 http://www.gothamist.com/2007/03/17/pet_food_recall.php#comment-1044662 http://www.gothamist.com/2007/03/17/pet_food_recall.php#comment-1044748 http://www.gothamist.com/2007/03/17/pet_food_recall.php#comment-1044923 There's plenty more there -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Brady Add to CLS please
I'm very sorry about Brady :( Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THis sweet handsome gray tiger boy won me over at Crashs,on Sunday I noticed he didn't look well and we lost him today to FIP.He was a shy boy but I helped get him to trust.THe power of Temptations treats. :) This one really hurts.Well they all do,I don't usually get too attached to the ones that have a chance at getting adopted but I really like this guy.He didn't have felv but could we add him to the list?THanks so much Sherry - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
Re: Brady Add to CLS please
They have a way of working themselves into your heart and soul. Know that he loves you and every bit of attention and time you gave him. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Gina WN To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:39 AM Subject: Re: Brady Add to CLS please I'm very sorry about Brady :( Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THis sweet handsome gray tiger boy won me over at Crashs,on Sunday I noticed he didn't look well and we lost him today to FIP.He was a shy boy but I helped get him to trust.THe power of Temptations treats. :) This one really hurts.Well they all do,I don't usually get too attached to the ones that have a chance at getting adopted but I really like this guy.He didn't have felv but could we add him to the list?THanks so much Sherry The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. Visit my Tigger Tales site! -- We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
Re: Hammy
Sending prayers for sweet Hammy. Gina Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all could you please send prayers and good vibes to one of our newest Sids kids,he is having a difficult time and is at Dr Jens house where her 11 year old son is helping taking extra care of him.He is felv+.Thanks everyone. Sherry - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Visit my Tigger Tales site! - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.
