Re: [Felvtalk] No vaxes?

2008-08-20 Thread catatonya
If Ash is healthy I would have her vaccinated. I think it's good to get the 
first set of vaccinations in.  Also, I don't know if Ash tested positive twice 
at at least 3 months apart?   If not, you may not be dealing with a positive 
cat to begin with.  Both of my positives received their first leukemia shots 
and boosters.  One I knew was positive, one I didn't.  I don't think it makes a 
difference.  I would not vaccinate an obviously sick cat.  Years ago, vets did 
say to vaccinate positives anyway.  Now they say not to.  But unless you're 
totally sure your cat is positive I would vaccinate.
  tonya

Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Really?  I had no idea vets didn't need to vaccinate in order to neuter/spay. 
 I guess it's their way of getting more money.  I will run that by my vet and 
tell him I don't want Ash to get any shots because of his FeLV+ status, and see 
what he says.  See, that's the thing that bugs me.  Vets are supposed to be 
animal advocates and do what's right by them, and surely they know that giving 
FeLV+ cats vaccines isn't the best thing to do for their immune system...yet 
they do it anyway!  It all comes down to the mighty dollar.  Ugh!

 Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice. 
~ loving mama to ~
  Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
  Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
  Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)



--- On Thu, 8/7/08, Marylyn wrote:
From: Marylyn 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No vaxes?
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 12:30 AM

He most assuredly can be. I have had non-FeLV+ spayed (much more 
serious) without their vaccinations. Talk to the vet and if you can't 
do anything find another one. I just took LCK and LGK to the vet to 
be checked out (they came in from the pine thicket--long story). They 
went in at different times. They are young (8 or so weeks) but at the 
age people start getting their shots. I made it very plain that I 
wanted nothing but worming, de-miting/fleaing etc and what they needed 
for their immediate health (one was dehydrated, vomiting etc). I want 
them to be older and better health before their system is assaulted 
with vaccines. The vets agreed to that and (unofficially) supported 
the decision. If he is not boarding the vet has absolutely no reason 
to vaccinate.
On Aug 6, 2008, at 7:12 PM, Jennifer wrote:

> So wait...my Ash is FeLV+ and getting neutered on the 28th, but he's 
> going in for all his shots on the 14th. He needs to be fixed 
> because he's spraying and I can't have that. He can't be
fixed 
> without his vaxes. What should I do?
>
>
> Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER. Be their voice.
> ~ loving mama to ~
> Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
> Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
> Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 8/6/08, Sabrina 
wrote:
> From: Sabrina 

> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need help-seeking forever home for feluk 
> positive cat
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:40 PM
>
>>> She will be vaxed, checked out, and spayed before she is rehomed.
> <<
>
> Can you get around vaxing her? If she is FeLV+, she should NOT be
> vaccinated. Only healthy, virus-free animals should be vaccinated. 
> Check
> your vaccine manufacturer's directions. This is what my vaccine 
> (Intervet
> Protex-3) says on the label:
>
> "Only healthy animals should be vaccinated. Animals incubating any
> disease,
> or animals stressed due to shipping, malnutrition or parasitism may 
> not
> achieve or maintain an adequate immune response."
>
> Her immune system is being taxed by the virus, she does not need 
> further
> challenges to her immune system. Contrary to popular belief, 
> vaccines are
> NOT harmless.
>
> Sabrina
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> www.LovingGraceRescue.org
> Orange County, CA
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Re: [Felvtalk] No vaxes?

2008-08-20 Thread catatonya
I have always had my positive cats vaccinated when they were spayed or 
neutered.  I then re-vaccinated every 3 (or more) years
  tonya

Jennifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  So wait...my Ash is FeLV+ and getting neutered on the 28th, but he's going in 
for all his shots on the 14th.  He needs to be fixed because he's spraying and 
I can't have that.  He can't be fixed without his vaxes.  What should I do?


 Jennifer - PROUD VEGETARIAN & LOCAL SPCA VOLUNTEER.  Be their voice. 
~ loving mama to ~
  Morrison (born Oct. 10, 2000)
  Isobel aka Fat Girl (born Feb. 7, 2007)
  Ash (born July 11, 2007, diagnosed FeLV+ July 28, 2008)



--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Sabrina 
wrote:
From: Sabrina 

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Need help-seeking forever home for feluk positive cat
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 8:40 PM

>> She will be vaxed, checked out, and spayed before she is rehomed.
<<

Can you get around vaxing her? If she is FeLV+, she should NOT be
vaccinated. Only healthy, virus-free animals should be vaccinated. Check
your vaccine manufacturer's directions. This is what my vaccine (Intervet
Protex-3) says on the label:

"Only healthy animals should be vaccinated. Animals incubating any
disease,
or animals stressed due to shipping, malnutrition or parasitism may not
achieve or maintain an adequate immune response."

Her immune system is being taxed by the virus, she does not need further
challenges to her immune system. Contrary to popular belief, vaccines are
NOT harmless.

Sabrina
www.Pet-Sitter-Pro.com
www.LovingGraceRescue.org
Orange County, CA
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Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

2008-08-20 Thread Gloria Lane
I'm so sorry to hear that, Laura. All our kitties will welcome Duncan  
and your other baby to the Bridge where they will no longer have  
suffering. Sleep soft, sweet Duncan.

On Aug 19, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Laura Mostello wrote:

> Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering  
> from a URI and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he  
> was still sluggish. On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was  
> crying as if he was in a lot of pain. I rushed him to the emergency  
> vet and then to my regular vet Monday morning. The vet called me at  
> 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get Duncan's food and told  
> me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. Test results had  
> showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked about  
> possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and  
> kindest, to put him down.
> He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating  
> and walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100%  
> because of the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never  
> shown any symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two  
> positives, who lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them  
> checked out at the vet next week.
> I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very  
> good past couple of weeks for me.
> Laura
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Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

2008-08-20 Thread Barb Moermond
I'm so sorry - GLOW to light his path and ease your heart.

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- Original Message 
From: Laura Mostello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:32:24 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from a URI 
and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was still sluggish. 
On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as if he was in a lot of 
pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then to my regular vet Monday 
morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get 
Duncan's food and told me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. Test 
results had showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked about 
possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and kindest, to 
put him down. 
He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating and 
walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100% because of the 
URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never shown any symptoms in the 
year that I've had him. My other two positives, who lived with him, are fine, 
but I'm going to have them checked out at the vet next week.
I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very good past 
couple of weeks for me. 
Laura

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Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

2008-08-20 Thread Marylyn
I am so sorry.  May all the angels hug you and Duncan and all the  
others in both worlds.
On Aug 19, 2008, at 8:32 PM, Laura Mostello wrote:

> Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering  
> from a URI and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he  
> was still sluggish. On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was  
> crying as if he was in a lot of pain. I rushed him to the emergency  
> vet and then to my regular vet Monday morning. The vet called me at  
> 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get Duncan's food and told  
> me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. Test results had  
> showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked about  
> possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and  
> kindest, to put him down.
> He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating  
> and walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100%  
> because of the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never  
> shown any symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two  
> positives, who lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them  
> checked out at the vet next week.
> I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very  
> good past couple of weeks for me.
> Laura
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Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

2008-08-20 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I'm so sorry to hear the sad news about Duncan, that's so hard, Laura.
And right on top of your 18-year-old. What was his or her name?
Try not to beat yourself up. I've been there too, with Caramel, the
first of mine to pass away. I realized later that he'd been unwell for a
while and I hadn't been fully aware of it. I made the same promise too,
and now I leave nothing to chance either, but I figured it took Caramel
to show me the way.
You're in my thoughts,
Take care
Kerry


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura Mostello
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from
a URI and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was
still sluggish. On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as
if he was in a lot of pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then
to my regular vet Monday morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was
driving home from work to get Duncan's food and told me that he thought
Duncan was very close to dying. Test results had showed Hemobartonella
and he was fading fast. We talked about possible treatments but Dr
Leathers felt that it would be best, and kindest, to put him down. 
He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating and
walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100% because of
the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never shown any
symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two positives, who
lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them checked out at the
vet next week.
I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very good
past couple of weeks for me. 
Laura

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Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

2008-08-20 Thread Stray Cat Alliance
I am so sorry Laura for your losses - I know your heart is breaking. 
 
Anita"Every year shelters kill almost 5,000,000 cats, dogs, puppies & kittens.  
Most were beautiful, loving creatures (even feral cats!) that died simply 
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> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:32:24 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone> > Sadly, I 
> had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from a URI and 
> getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was still sluggish. On 
> Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as if he was in a lot of 
> pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then to my regular vet Monday 
> morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get 
> Duncan's food and told me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. 
> Test results had showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked 
> about possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and 
> kindest, to put him down. > He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of 
> days ago he was eating and walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just 
> wasn't 100% because of the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has 
> never shown any symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two 
> positives, who lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them checked 
> out at the vet next week.> I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this 
> hasn't been a very good past couple of weeks for me. > Laura> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

2008-08-20 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Laura, I am so sorry for both your losses.  Hugs to you and gentle
Bridge journey to Duncan and your other kitty -- what was his/her name?

Diane R. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura Mostello
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

Sadly, I had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from
a URI and getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was
still sluggish. On Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as
if he was in a lot of pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then
to my regular vet Monday morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was
driving home from work to get Duncan's food and told me that he thought
Duncan was very close to dying. Test results had showed Hemobartonella
and he was fading fast. We talked about possible treatments but Dr
Leathers felt that it would be best, and kindest, to put him down. 
He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of days ago he was eating and
walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just wasn't 100% because of
the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has never shown any
symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two positives, who
lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them checked out at the
vet next week.
I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this hasn't been a very good
past couple of weeks for me. 
Laura

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Re: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone

2008-08-20 Thread Debbie Harrison

Laura, I am so very sorry for your loss; please don't beat yourself up...you 
did the very best you could!
 
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:32:24 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Duncan is gone> > Sadly, I 
> had to have Duncan euthanized last night. He was suffering from a URI and 
> getting Clavamox, and the URI was clearing up, but he was still sluggish. On 
> Sunday night he seemed disoriented, and was crying as if he was in a lot of 
> pain. I rushed him to the emergency vet and then to my regular vet Monday 
> morning. The vet called me at 5:30 as I was driving home from work to get 
> Duncan's food and told me that he thought Duncan was very close to dying. 
> Test results had showed Hemobartonella and he was fading fast. We talked 
> about possible treatments but Dr Leathers felt that it would be best, and 
> kindest, to put him down. > He deteriorated so quickly - just a couple of 
> days ago he was eating and walking around. Unfortunately, I assumed he just 
> wasn't 100% because of the URI. I will not make that mistake again. He has 
> never shown any symptoms in the year that I've had him. My other two 
> positives, who lived with him, are fine, but I'm going to have them checked 
> out at the vet next week.> I lost my 18 year old cat last Monday so this 
> hasn't been a very good past couple of weeks for me. > Laura> > 
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