[Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick
My Positive blind girl is sick, I have had her for just a year now and this is the first time she's been ill. I had my neighbor take her to my vet yesterday and she had a fever of 104.9, she's also not eating much and VERY lethargic. I'm very worried. I adopted Laura (she was named after me by my vets staff, long story) because she was living at the vets, was blind and being tormented by another cat. I had her tested when I brought her home and found out she was pos, she came from a colony that had alot of pos's, so I think she'd been pos since a kitten, just didn't show on her first snap test. Anyway, at that time we found out the cat that was bullying her was also pos, he recently passed away. Laura will be three next month, I've read that many kitties don't live more than 2-3 years after diagnosis.. Vet drew blood yesterday so today we should get those results back...please keep a good thought it's not something dire. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick
Laura, sending positive thoughts your way for little Laura. Hoping it is something an antibiotic will fix. Will she let you assist feed her? It is so important to get food into sick kitties. Sharyl --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Laura B laurai...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Laura B laurai...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick To: felvt...@felineleukemia felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 6:33 AM My Positive blind girl is sick, I have had her for just a year now and this is the first time she's been ill. I had my neighbor take her to my vet yesterday and she had a fever of 104.9, she's also not eating much and VERY lethargic. I'm very worried. I adopted Laura (she was named after me by my vets staff, long story) because she was living at the vets, was blind and being tormented by another cat. I had her tested when I brought her home and found out she was pos, she came from a colony that had alot of pos's, so I think she'd been pos since a kitten, just didn't show on her first snap test. Anyway, at that time we found out the cat that was bullying her was also pos, he recently passed away. Laura will be three next month, I've read that many kitties don't live more than 2-3 years after diagnosis.. Vet drew blood yesterday so today we should get those results back...please keep a good thought it's not something dire. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin
hi, sorry it took so long to answer. I went to the vet on May 1,and he gave meProzyme13 dram. He said put 1/4 tsp in food once a day.IT COST $8. sINCE BOSCO'S blood count is down,he gave mePet-Tinic 4ml 8ml 2x daily by mouth . This is a vitamin-mineral palatable liquid . It is 4fl oz for $12. The prices are right,and aleast he gave me meds. Some vets say he/she has felv,and that's it.And that's after spending alot of money for the wellness blood test. Cathy --- On Wed, 4/22/09, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 5:55 PM I believe you are talking about a product called LTCI that is made by a company called Imulan their website is http://imulan.com The product is not related to IR. Some people have had very good success with LTCI and some have not. I don't believe there is any information about its effectiveness when used on asymptomatic cats and I would find it far too expensive to use as a simple immune booster. Assuming I had the money, I might give it a try for a symptomatic cat where you can tell if there is an improvement. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Immulin Dear all, Does anyone have any experience in treating FeLV kitts with Immulin? My FelV foster's new forever mom just sent me the email extract below from her ex (who also adopts FeLV kitts). She is looking for any info on Immulin. I wonder if it's akin to Immuno Regulin, or even IR itself, re-packaged for cats (as opposed to dogs and horses)? I wonder about this guy being taken for a ride---even unintentionally--by his vet, as it sounds pricy. I've been trying to research on the web with no success. I've also been unable to dig up any more info on Immuno Regulin other than what I already read several years ago--mainly 2 articles by vets supporting use of IR by Dr Mike Lies, and Dr Karen Thomas, respectively. Immulin - appears to be a scientific breakthrough that I am excited about. Results have been incredible. Its a boost to the immune system that in many cases has helped them to beat their diseases. The only issue is cost. It is a very expensive and intensive program. I am also uncertain about the stress of making him go to the vet so often and taking the shots themselves. Doctor thinks pros outway cons by far, I am a little less convinced of that but still excited about the possibilities here. Any info on Immulin, or (more up to date) info on IR would be very welcome. Incidentally, one Google result showed an email from a guy that said Dr Karen Thomas' experiences were available on Jim's website. He may mean this website -- James's -- but I've never seen anything from a Dr Karen Thomas here?? Hugs to all and good health wishes to all your kitts, Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin
If you need Pet Tinic long term you may be able to order it on amazon.com cheaper. I bought a large quantity for some ferals a few months ago. I can't recall the price but it was very good. Good luck. On May 5, 2009, at 2:46 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: hi, sorry it took so long to answer. I went to the vet on May 1,and he gave meProzyme13 dram. He said put 1/4 tsp in food once a day.IT COST $8. sINCE BOSCO'S blood count is down,he gave mePet-Tinic 4ml 8ml 2x daily by mouth . This is a vitamin-mineral palatable liquid . It is 4fl oz for $12. The prices are right,and aleast he gave me meds. Some vets say he/she has felv,and that's it.And that's after spending alot of money for the wellness blood test. Cathy --- On Wed, 4/22/09, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 5:55 PM I believe you are talking about a product called LTCI that is made by a company called Imulan their website is http://imulan.com The product is not related to IR. Some people have had very good success with LTCI and some have not. I don't believe there is any information about its effectiveness when used on asymptomatic cats and I would find it far too expensive to use as a simple immune booster. Assuming I had the money, I might give it a try for a symptomatic cat where you can tell if there is an improvement. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Immulin Dear all, Does anyone have any experience in treating FeLV kitts with Immulin? My FelV foster's new forever mom just sent me the email extract below from her ex (who also adopts FeLV kitts). She is looking for any info on Immulin. I wonder if it's akin to Immuno Regulin, or even IR itself, re-packaged for cats (as opposed to dogs and horses)? I wonder about this guy being taken for a ride---even unintentionally--by his vet, as it sounds pricy. I've been trying to research on the web with no success. I've also been unable to dig up any more info on Immuno Regulin other than what I already read several years ago--mainly 2 articles by vets supporting use of IR by Dr Mike Lies, and Dr Karen Thomas, respectively. Immulin - appears to be a scientific breakthrough that I am excited about. Results have been incredible. Its a boost to the immune system that in many cases has helped them to beat their diseases. The only issue is cost. It is a very expensive and intensive program. I am also uncertain about the stress of making him go to the vet so often and taking the shots themselves. Doctor thinks pros outway cons by far, I am a little less convinced of that but still excited about the possibilities here. Any info on Immulin, or (more up to date) info on IR would be very welcome. Incidentally, one Google result showed an email from a guy that said Dr Karen Thomas' experiences were available on Jim's website. He may mean this website -- James's -- but I've never seen anything from a Dr Karen Thomas here?? Hugs to all and good health wishes to all your kitts, Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin
always, always do a web search for anything you'll need even a reasonable amount of--even a simple search on a site like www.shopping.com can provide really amazing results. (do one for KMR 12 oz powder, for example, and find the incredible range of prices. and see who is, surprisingly, the least expensive in the country--INCLUDING, tho it won't show up on that sort of search, amongst vet wholesalers!) -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin
THANKS.. --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 4:00 PM If you need Pet Tinic long term you may be able to order it on amazon.com cheaper. I bought a large quantity for some ferals a few months ago. I can't recall the price but it was very good. Good luck. On May 5, 2009, at 2:46 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote: hi, sorry it took so long to answer. I went to the vet on May 1,and he gave meProzyme13 dram. He said put 1/4 tsp in food once a day.IT COST $8. sINCE BOSCO'S blood count is down,he gave mePet-Tinic 4ml 8ml 2x daily by mouth . This is a vitamin-mineral palatable liquid . It is 4fl oz for $12. The prices are right,and aleast he gave me meds. Some vets say he/she has felv,and that's it.And that's after spending alot of money for the wellness blood test. Cathy --- On Wed, 4/22/09, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 5:55 PM I believe you are talking about a product called LTCI that is made by a company called Imulan their website is http://imulan.com The product is not related to IR. Some people have had very good success with LTCI and some have not. I don't believe there is any information about its effectiveness when used on asymptomatic cats and I would find it far too expensive to use as a simple immune booster. Assuming I had the money, I might give it a try for a symptomatic cat where you can tell if there is an improvement. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Immulin Dear all, Does anyone have any experience in treating FeLV kitts with Immulin? My FelV foster's new forever mom just sent me the email extract below from her ex (who also adopts FeLV kitts). She is looking for any info on Immulin. I wonder if it's akin to Immuno Regulin, or even IR itself, re-packaged for cats (as opposed to dogs and horses)? I wonder about this guy being taken for a ride---even unintentionally--by his vet, as it sounds pricy. I've been trying to research on the web with no success. I've also been unable to dig up any more info on Immuno Regulin other than what I already read several years ago--mainly 2 articles by vets supporting use of IR by Dr Mike Lies, and Dr Karen Thomas, respectively. Immulin - appears to be a scientific breakthrough that I am excited about. Results have been incredible. Its a boost to the immune system that in many cases has helped them to beat their diseases. The only issue is cost. It is a very expensive and intensive program. I am also uncertain about the stress of making him go to the vet so often and taking the shots themselves. Doctor thinks pros outway cons by far, I am a little less convinced of that but still excited about the possibilities here. Any info on Immulin, or (more up to date) info on IR would be very welcome. Incidentally, one Google result showed an email from a guy that said Dr Karen Thomas' experiences were available on Jim's website. He may mean this website -- James's -- but I've never seen anything from a Dr Karen Thomas here?? Hugs to all and good health wishes to all your kitts, Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick
Hi Laurie, As you know we went to the vet today and did the blood panel and urinalysis and then decided to do the ear test. By this time Kitty was overly stressed and subsequently received a 23.3 reading. It was just a few days ago when he got a 13.9 reading. I wish that he did this test first to reduce all his stress. He had his prednisone yesterday and of course we've been giving him the Methyl B12 which does have sugar in it. However he is more lively and has more strength in his hind quarters-it's not perfect but much better than just a few days ago. We're so disappointed with the ear prick test but have high hopes regarding the urinalysis and blood work. We spoke to the vet briefly regarding Lantus and have found out that our pharmacy stocks it which is good. Today wasn't the right time to go into everything until all the tests come back but we made it clear to him that we are going to take a proactive role in Kitty's health.At this point in time I'm not interested in how this vet feels. We got Kitty through the FELV with a very good knowlegeable friend when everyone else was telling us to put him down but six years later we still have him. This is definitely going to be hard for me. I have no problem giving needles to other people including myself but I have a hard time with my cats. When I had to give Simba antibiotics for 10 days I was lousy at it and didn't have the thrust to get the needle in. I know that I will think positively and for sure we'll be home testing. If this all comes to pass and he has to go on insulin I just have to keep repeating to myself that I will be able to do it as I have no choice. Thank you so much Laurie for all your help. Tomorrow when we hear from the vet I will let you know what the outcome is. Liz Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 03:33:16 -0700 From: laurai...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick My Positive blind girl is sick, I have had her for just a year now and this is the first time she's been ill. I had my neighbor take her to my vet yesterday and she had a fever of 104.9, she's also not eating much and VERY lethargic. I'm very worried. I adopted Laura (she was named after me by my vets staff, long story) because she was living at the vets, was blind and being tormented by another cat. I had her tested when I brought her home and found out she was pos, she came from a colony that had alot of pos's, so I think she'd been pos since a kitten, just didn't show on her first snap test. Anyway, at that time we found out the cat that was bullying her was also pos, he recently passed away. Laura will be three next month, I've read that many kitties don't live more than 2-3 years after diagnosis.. Vet drew blood yesterday so today we should get those results back...please keep a good thought it's not something dire. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Internet explorer 8 lets you browse the web faster. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655582 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick
I'm so sorry Laurie, I sent an email to you by mistake; it was for someone at the pet diabetes group. Laura God must have put us together. Regarding your baby Laura our Kitty (his real name) was diagnosed with FELV when he was 2. Kitty is now turning 8 years old and has fought many an infection. He's on prednisone 2.5 mg every other day and has been as healthy and vibrant as any other cat and you would not be able to tell the difference. It just so happens that we've been told that he could have diabetes so another mountain to climb and another battle to win. Don't give up, never quit and just keep loving her-magic happens look at our Kitty. Please write me any time you want if you have any questions or ever need someone to talk to. Laura what a wonderful thing you did taking in a sweet little girl. Regardless of whatever happens look at the love she's been receiving from you. God bless. Liz Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 03:33:16 -0700 From: laurai...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick My Positive blind girl is sick, I have had her for just a year now and this is the first time she's been ill. I had my neighbor take her to my vet yesterday and she had a fever of 104.9, she's also not eating much and VERY lethargic. I'm very worried. I adopted Laura (she was named after me by my vets staff, long story) because she was living at the vets, was blind and being tormented by another cat. I had her tested when I brought her home and found out she was pos, she came from a colony that had alot of pos's, so I think she'd been pos since a kitten, just didn't show on her first snap test. Anyway, at that time we found out the cat that was bullying her was also pos, he recently passed away. Laura will be three next month, I've read that many kitties don't live more than 2-3 years after diagnosis.. Vet drew blood yesterday so today we should get those results back...please keep a good thought it's not something dire. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Find info faster and easier with Internet Explorer 8. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655583 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick
No problem. I have done the same. :) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Paz Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick I'm so sorry Laurie, I sent an email to you by mistake; it was for someone at the pet diabetes group. Laura God must have put us together. Regarding your baby Laura our Kitty (his real name) was diagnosed with FELV when he was 2. Kitty is now turning 8 years old and has fought many an infection. He's on prednisone 2.5 mg every other day and has been as healthy and vibrant as any other cat and you would not be able to tell the difference. It just so happens that we've been told that he could have diabetes so another mountain to climb and another battle to win. Don't give up, never quit and just keep loving her-magic happens look at our Kitty. Please write me any time you want if you have any questions or ever need someone to talk to. Laura what a wonderful thing you did taking in a sweet little girl. Regardless of whatever happens look at the love she's been receiving from you. God bless. Liz Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 03:33:16 -0700 From: laurai...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick My Positive blind girl is sick, I have had her for just a year now and this is the first time she's been ill. I had my neighbor take her to my vet yesterday and she had a fever of 104.9, she's also not eating much and VERY lethargic. I'm very worried. I adopted Laura (she was named after me by my vets staff, long story) because she was living at the vets, was blind and being tormented by another cat. I had her tested when I brought her home and found out she was pos, she came from a colony that had alot of pos's, so I think she'd been pos since a kitten, just didn't show on her first snap test. Anyway, at that time we found out the cat that was bullying her was also pos, he recently passed away. Laura will be three next month, I've read that many kitties don't live more than 2-3 years after diagnosis.. Vet drew blood yesterday so today we should get those results back...please keep a good thought it's not something dire. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Find info faster and easier with Internet Explorer 8. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655583 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS
Charlotte has just passed away. I came home from work, went into her room and she was lying on her side, crying and breathing heavily. I ran and let my dogs out, came back to her and held her for what turned out to be about 4 hours. She gradually slowed down, but was responding to my voice for quite a while. Eventually that stopped and I knew she was probably unconscious. She passed at the stroke of midnight, and I know it sounds crazy, but I immediately felt so calm - I can only explain it by saying that as soon as she died I physically felt her suffering end. It was so strange. I am sitting here crying as I write this even though I know it's better and she won't be in pain any more. But she'd been doing so well and eating like a pig. Just this morning she was stuffing her face with chicken. So I thought that maybe I could have her with me for just a while longer, and just maybe she'd be one who survived despite the odds. Guess I was wrong. I hate this disease. Thanks everyone for all your help. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS
Laurie I'm so sorry about Charlotte, just a note to let you know I care and I'm thinking about you. I agree with you I hate this disease also. Liz. Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:51:19 -0700 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS Charlotte has just passed away. I came home from work, went into her room and she was lying on her side, crying and breathing heavily. I ran and let my dogs out, came back to her and held her for what turned out to be about 4 hours. She gradually slowed down, but was responding to my voice for quite a while. Eventually that stopped and I knew she was probably unconscious. She passed at the stroke of midnight, and I know it sounds crazy, but I immediately felt so calm - I can only explain it by saying that as soon as she died I physically felt her suffering end. It was so strange. I am sitting here crying as I write this even though I know it's better and she won't be in pain any more. But she'd been doing so well and eating like a pig. Just this morning she was stuffing her face with chicken. So I thought that maybe I could have her with me for just a while longer, and just maybe she'd be one who survived despite the odds. Guess I was wrong. I hate this disease. Thanks everyone for all your help. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
