[Felvtalk] Help.. need advice on fleas
Hi, I saw your post and felv. My cat Cheshire recently passed, she developed leukemia, she had a lump on her neck. She was anemic and wasn't gettign enough Oxygen in her system. I got so many wonderful replies of condolences on here. One of the things I wondered was whether the revolution flea product I had applied on her 6 weeks before she passed somehow weakened her immune system or made her sick. I rarely applied flea product on her, since she only went out on the deck. She had had revolution treatments a couple of years ago when she had fleas but was fine then except for her asthma, My other non-felv cat goes out. Anyway, it was jsut one of the things I've wrestled with. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help.. need advice on fleas
I really would doubt it. I put Advantage on my FeLV cats for years never had any problem. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Tue, 10/19/10, Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Help.. need advice on fleas To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 4:48 PM Hi, I saw your post and felv. My cat Cheshire recently passed, she developed leukemia, she had a lump on her neck. She was anemic and wasn't gettign enough Oxygen in her system. I got so many wonderful replies of condolences on here. One of the things I wondered was whether the revolution flea product I had applied on her 6 weeks before she passed somehow weakened her immune system or made her sick. I rarely applied flea product on her, since she only went out on the deck. She had had revolution treatments a couple of years ago when she had fleas but was fine then except for her asthma, My other non-felv cat goes out. Anyway, it was jsut one of the things I've wrestled with. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Aww Geez-Murphy's starting to crash-vet visit today
This is the craziest roller coaster!!! Geez-Sunday Murphy was a busy bee, all happy and jabbering up a storm. He was finally feeling better with a week of Lysine under his belt and the sneezing and sniffles were subsiding. Yesterday he was fairly quiet but I thought he may have done too much the day before. Last night he did not eat, went into the spare room and laid on the floor in the dark. Not his style, normally he's nearby. This morning he laid in the kitchen until he got his meds, then didn't want to eat. I was able to call the vet from work and get him in this afternoon. We just got home. His PCV dropped 10 pts to 28 and may be even lower because he's a bit dehydrated. We will bump the Procrit up to 2x a week and increase the iron caps to every night instead of every other night. Maybe we lowered the dose too quicklyhe began the end of July with his first crash at 3x a week with the Procrit, then we dropped it to 2x-he bounced back so well that we dropped him to once a week when his HCT got to 38 two weeks ago. His lungs still sound good, but breathing is a little labored from being anemic. Ultrasound showed a little fluid around the heart, but nothing like the fluid in his chest in July and August, temp is normal, eyes clear. So please friends, more little purrayers for my bestest buddy!! Alice and the kiddos! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help.. need advice on fleas
Claudia, I'm so sorry about Chesire's passing - I too wonder about Revolution. I always hear it's one of the lesser toxic products, but with these guys, I suppose we question everything. Shannon --- On Tue, 10/19/10, Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Claudia Veiga elisasta...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Help.. need advice on fleas To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 3:48 PM Hi, I saw your post and felv. My cat Cheshire recently passed, she developed leukemia, she had a lump on her neck. She was anemic and wasn't gettign enough Oxygen in her system. I got so many wonderful replies of condolences on here. One of the things I wondered was whether the revolution flea product I had applied on her 6 weeks before she passed somehow weakened her immune system or made her sick. I rarely applied flea product on her, since she only went out on the deck. She had had revolution treatments a couple of years ago when she had fleas but was fine then except for her asthma, My other non-felv cat goes out. Anyway, it was jsut one of the things I've wrestled with. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] how to make Whimsy an inside only?
I would be interested in hearing others' stories of bringing inside an FeLV 'former feral' - to permenantly indoor. I don't let out my kitties, but Whimsy has gone from a cagey feral to almost house cat status. He has the sunroom to himself, and has been out in the daytime and with us some evenings. When out, he was staying in the yard, but the past few days has started to explore like he used to, and we have caught him across the street, etc. Obviously, it's a big fright for us and since we were planning on him being inside 24/7 with Halloween coming up, this might be the time to break the news to himit's not safe for you to be out at all without your mom and dad. Because he was so feral, and it's taken him so long to get to this point, we have worked at his pace - we didn't have a choice when we couldn't trap him, couldn't handle him. Now he comes when he's called. I want to make the leap now for peace of mind and his safety, and now that I can handle him (picking up, cuddling) it seems like the right time - I don't want to stress him more - he does sometimes get upset being cooped up. Should we just toughen up and keep him in all the time, except when he is with us? He does get lonely and paws at the door to be let out if he's alone too long, and I don't want him to get depressed. Adding another FeLV kitty would not be the best financial move, given the whole clan we have with various ailments. I also wonder if another FeLV could make him worse off, if that new kitty had a more serious 'version' of FeLV. Whimsy for now has been asymptomic, and is around 2 yrs 3 mos old. I hope he's one of the ones that can sustain health for a long time. I also don't know how he'd act around another kitty. so, in summary - 1) is forcing him to be inside only the best thing to do? 2) any ideas on how to make the transition emotionally easier for him? thank you, Shannon and Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] how to make Whimsy an inside only?
I would not let him outside again. I brought in a feral kitten years ago. I let him out once and when I got him back inside I never let him out again. I spent lots of time with him (kept him in my master bathroom/dressing room) and gave him different toys all the time. Cat TV is another diversion and he still loves sitting in the window 13 years later. There are links on the internet about how to bring an outside cat inside. He will adjust but will need your time and attention. If he is asymptomatic, I would not be inclined to add another cat. Bless you for taking him in! Laurie Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] how to make Whimsy an inside only? I would be interested in hearing others' stories of bringing inside an FeLV 'former feral' - to permenantly indoor. I don't let out my kitties, but Whimsy has gone from a cagey feral to almost house cat status. He has the sunroom to himself, and has been out in the daytime and with us some evenings. When out, he was staying in the yard, but the past few days has started to explore like he used to, and we have caught him across the street, etc. Obviously, it's a big fright for us and since we were planning on him being inside 24/7 with Halloween coming up, this might be the time to break the news to himit's not safe for you to be out at all without your mom and dad. Because he was so feral, and it's taken him so long to get to this point, we have worked at his pace - we didn't have a choice when we couldn't trap him, couldn't handle him. Now he comes when he's called. I want to make the leap now for peace of mind and his safety, and now that I can handle him (picking up, cuddling) it seems like the right time - I don't want to stress him more - he does sometimes get upset being cooped up. Should we just toughen up and keep him in all the time, except when he is with us? He does get lonely and paws at the door to be let out if he's alone too long, and I don't want him to get depressed. Adding another FeLV kitty would not be the best financial move, given the whole clan we have with various ailments. I also wonder if another FeLV could make him worse off, if that new kitty had a more serious 'version' of FeLV. Whimsy for now has been asymptomic, and is around 2 yrs 3 mos old. I hope he's one of the ones that can sustain health for a long time. I also don't know how he'd act around another kitty. so, in summary - 1) is forcing him to be inside only the best thing to do? 2) any ideas on how to make the transition emotionally easier for him? thank you, Shannon and Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Aww Geez-Murphy's starting to crash-vet visit today
Prayers Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Alice Flowers Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Aww Geez-Murphy's starting to crash-vet visit today This is the craziest roller coaster!!! Geez-Sunday Murphy was a busy bee, all happy and jabbering up a storm. He was finally feeling better with a week of Lysine under his belt and the sneezing and sniffles were subsiding. Yesterday he was fairly quiet but I thought he may have done too much the day before. Last night he did not eat, went into the spare room and laid on the floor in the dark. Not his style, normally he's nearby. This morning he laid in the kitchen until he got his meds, then didn't want to eat. I was able to call the vet from work and get him in this afternoon. We just got home. His PCV dropped 10 pts to 28 and may be even lower because he's a bit dehydrated. We will bump the Procrit up to 2x a week and increase the iron caps to every night instead of every other night. Maybe we lowered the dose too quicklyhe began the end of July with his first crash at 3x a week with the Procrit, then we dropped it to 2x-he bounced back so well that we dropped him to once a week when his HCT got to 38 two weeks ago. His lungs still sound good, but breathing is a little labored from being anemic. Ultrasound showed a little fluid around the heart, but nothing like the fluid in his chest in July and August, temp is normal, eyes clear. So please friends, more little purrayers for my bestest buddy!! Alice and the kiddos! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Aww Geez-Murphy's starting to crash-vet visit today
Alice...I'll keep you and the wonderful Mr. Murphy in my purrrayers...not to worry. It's a rough ride...for you both. Blessings to you all for trying so much to make it right. Sara --Original Mail-- From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:13:19 -0700 PDT Subject: [Felvtalk] Aww Geez-Murphy's starting to crash-vet visit today This is the craziest roller coaster!!! Geez-Sunday Murphy was a busy bee, all happy and jabbering up a storm. He was finally feeling better with a week of Lysine under his belt and the sneezing and sniffles were subsiding. Yesterday he was fairly quiet but I thought he may have done too much the day before. Last night he did not eat, went into the spare room and laid on the floor in the dark. Not his style, normally he's nearby. This morning he laid in the kitchen until he got his meds, then didn't want to eat. I was able to call the vet from work and get him in this afternoon. We just got home. His PCV dropped 10 pts to 28 and may be even lower because he's a bit dehydrated. We will bump the Procrit up to 2x a week and increase the iron caps to every night instead of every other night. Maybe we lowered the dose too quicklyhe began the end of July with his first crash at 3x a week with the Procrit, then we dropped it to 2x-he bounced back so well that we dropped him to once a week when his HCT got to 38 two weeks ago. His lungs still sound good, but breathing is a little labored from being anemic. Ultrasound showed a little fluid around the heart, but nothing like the fluid in his chest in July and August, temp is normal, eyes clear. So please friends, more little purrayers for my bestest buddy!! Alice and the kiddos! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] how to make Whimsy an inside only?
Hi, I have 1 formerly stray, and 1 formerly feral. I think the best way is cold-turkey. Otherwise they will just keep begging to go out and trying to slip outside. Mine adjusted quickly, had one scary over-night sneak out, but overall they seem content to be inside. Teaching him that he must wear a harness to go out can work too, but he will be more likely to try to sneak out if it is sometimes allowed and sometimes not. Best cat toy I've found to occupy their time is the Catch Me If You Can toy at Walmart, $20.00. (Don't waste your money on the Butterfly Blast). I also hide treats on their cat tree... Best wishes, Beth N. On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: I would be interested in hearing others' stories of bringing inside an FeLV 'former feral' - to permenantly indoor. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
