Re: [Felvtalk] Love Animals
Laurie.. I've been meaning to tell you how much I love this, and it's SO true. On 01-18, Laurieskatz wrote: Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] potential kitty tested negative
That is really great!! She is so lucky to have found you!!! 2011/1/18 Heather Wienker furrygi...@gmail.com Breaks my heart thinking of how many cats lives are ruined, or lost, based on a single test that might not even be correct. Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, everyone :) there's lots of educating to do! --- On Tue, 1/18/11, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] potential kitty tested negative To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2011, 9:01 PM :-) you are an angel in this kitty's life!!! Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Diane Rosenfeldt Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 5:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] potential kitty tested negative Excellent! Bravo for this sweet kitty! Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] potential kitty tested negative I mentioned that one of the kitties we were going to look at for adoption never had an IFA test. She’s been in a cage for a year at a shelter. I had them do an IFA and she’s negative! She’s a healthy, roly-poly adult, sweetie pie. They actually thanked me for educating them and said they will follow a different testing protocol going forward. I’m happy for this kitty. shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?
Just wondering if anyone knows if humans who are sick with a cold, the flu, etc can make a FELV+ cat sick. Magic is currently still asymptomatic (other than her diagnosis). I'm just wondering when we are sick if they are more susceptible with their weakened immune system. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?
I'm sick all the time with bronchitis and sinus infections (healthy, right?) and my FeLV+ cats have never gotten it. --Katy On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com wrote: Just wondering if anyone knows if humans who are sick with a cold, the flu, etc can make a FELV+ cat sick. Magic is currently still asymptomatic (other than her diagnosis). I'm just wondering when we are sick if they are more susceptible with their weakened immune system. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?
no,we can't make them sick --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:24 PM Just wondering if anyone knows if humans who are sick with a cold, the flu, etc can make a FELV+ cat sick. Magic is currently still asymptomatic (other than her diagnosis). I'm just wondering when we are sick if they are more susceptible with their weakened immune system. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?
Not true. There are a lot of illnesses that can be transmitted between animals and humans, incluiding a lot of different types of colds. Here's a nice long list to scare yourself with: http://svmweb.vetmed.wisc.edu/pbs/zoonoses/ If the animals and the people are basically healthy it's not much of an issue. But with cats with compromised immune systems, whether they are kittens or elderly or FIV+ or FeLV+ or dealing with cancer, then they are more susceptible to all sorts of things. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com wrote: From: CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 11:32 AM no,we can't make them sick --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:24 PM Just wondering if anyone knows if humans who are sick with a cold, the flu, etc can make a FELV+ cat sick. Magic is currently still asymptomatic (other than her diagnosis). I'm just wondering when we are sick if they are more susceptible with their weakened immune system. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?
sorry, we don't catch from each other.Their Lukemia and Aides is diff from ours.C --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:52 PM Not true. There are a lot of illnesses that can be transmitted between animals and humans, incluiding a lot of different types of colds. Here's a nice long list to scare yourself with: http://svmweb.vetmed.wisc.edu/pbs/zoonoses/ If the animals and the people are basically healthy it's not much of an issue. But with cats with compromised immune systems, whether they are kittens or elderly or FIV+ or FeLV+ or dealing with cancer, then they are more susceptible to all sorts of things. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com wrote: From: CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 11:32 AM no,we can't make them sick --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:24 PM Just wondering if anyone knows if humans who are sick with a cold, the flu, etc can make a FELV+ cat sick. Magic is currently still asymptomatic (other than her diagnosis). I'm just wondering when we are sick if they are more susceptible with their weakened immune system. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?
C, she wasn't talking about Leukemia and Aids, and they actually can catch certain types of flu and colds from us! 2011/1/19 CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com sorry, we don't catch from each other.Their Lukemia and Aides is diff from ours.C --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:52 PM Not true. There are a lot of illnesses that can be transmitted between animals and humans, incluiding a lot of different types of colds. Here's a nice long list to scare yourself with: http://svmweb.vetmed.wisc.edu/pbs/zoonoses/ If the animals and the people are basically healthy it's not much of an issue. But with cats with compromised immune systems, whether they are kittens or elderly or FIV+ or FeLV+ or dealing with cancer, then they are more susceptible to all sorts of things. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com wrote: From: CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 11:32 AM no,we can't make them sick --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:24 PM Just wondering if anyone knows if humans who are sick with a cold, the flu, etc can make a FELV+ cat sick. Magic is currently still asymptomatic (other than her diagnosis). I'm just wondering when we are sick if they are more susceptible with their weakened immune system. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?
I doubt that they can catch our illnesses. But I have a question: my cat, Lucky (whom I inherited from my mother who died in November) has a chronic herpes infection in his left eye. Then I started getting cold sores on my nose, when I don't even have a cold. So, just wondering...could we share a herpes virus? ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:24 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? Just wondering if anyone knows if humans who are sick with a cold, the flu, etc can make a FELV+ cat sick. Magic is currently still asymptomatic (other than her diagnosis). I'm just wondering when we are sick if they are more susceptible with their weakened immune system. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?
I think it's an enigma - but I feel that since a common cold is not species-specific, I don't see how it couldn't be transmitted to cats with such a compromised immune systems! I'm always careful not to kiss or cuddle, even with healthy cats, although there's not much I can do about being with them. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 2:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? Just wondering if anyone knows if humans who are sick with a cold, the flu, etc can make a FELV+ cat sick. Magic is currently still asymptomatic (other than her diagnosis). I'm just wondering when we are sick if they are more susceptible with their weakened immune system. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?
FIV/FeLV are species-specific! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of CATHERINE DIDONNA Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 2:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? sorry, we don't catch from each other.Their Lukemia and Aides is diff from ours.C --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:52 PM Not true. There are a lot of illnesses that can be transmitted between animals and humans, incluiding a lot of different types of colds. Here's a nice long list to scare yourself with: http://svmweb.vetmed.wisc.edu/pbs/zoonoses/ If the animals and the people are basically healthy it's not much of an issue. But with cats with compromised immune systems, whether they are kittens or elderly or FIV+ or FeLV+ or dealing with cancer, then they are more susceptible to all sorts of things. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com wrote: From: CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 11:32 AM no,we can't make them sick --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:24 PM Just wondering if anyone knows if humans who are sick with a cold, the flu, etc can make a FELV+ cat sick. Magic is currently still asymptomatic (other than her diagnosis). I'm just wondering when we are sick if they are more susceptible with their weakened immune system. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?
things like giardia are zoonotic, meaning that we can catch from them and vice versa - many parasites are like that. But, exactly, not these retroviruses. If you want to search you can google zoonotic diseases. another example is rabies, obviously zoonotic. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:30 PM FIV/FeLV are species-specific! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of CATHERINE DIDONNA Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 2:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? sorry, we don't catch from each other.Their Lukemia and Aides is diff from ours.C --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:52 PM Not true. There are a lot of illnesses that can be transmitted between animals and humans, incluiding a lot of different types of colds. Here's a nice long list to scare yourself with: http://svmweb.vetmed.wisc.edu/pbs/zoonoses/ If the animals and the people are basically healthy it's not much of an issue. But with cats with compromised immune systems, whether they are kittens or elderly or FIV+ or FeLV+ or dealing with cancer, then they are more susceptible to all sorts of things. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com wrote: From: CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 11:32 AM no,we can't make them sick --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 2:24 PM Just wondering if anyone knows if humans who are sick with a cold, the flu, etc can make a FELV+ cat sick. Magic is currently still asymptomatic (other than her diagnosis). I'm just wondering when we are sick if they are more susceptible with their weakened immune system. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] FeLV playing paws under door with non FeLV cats
My kitties have suddenly begun playing paws under the door of my rescued IFA positive FeLV cat and I'm wondering how worried I should be? I'm kind of worried but it seems he likes to do this and I don't want to take it away from him as it's his only kitty interaction - he hasn't had any or been interested - since I caught him a year ago. Their paws can't get all the way under the door - the gap is about a half inch high - but they get about halfway and he can get about halfway, so I think they do touch, even if it's only for a moment. I wash everything separately, and I wear flip flops in his room (although I leave them outside the door. :() I don't change clothes after playing with him, but I do wash my hands/arms. He's about 10 years old, from what the neighborhood people have told me, and he's been confirmed IFA positive FeLV and FIV positive since I rescued him a year ago. I can see he's been feeling better and better and getting more energetic as I've dewormed him, along with steady food/water/care. So I imagine he may start trying to instigate paws himself, soon. He's got a window but even that gets old, I imagine. Anyone have any thoughts on how much increased risk there is /concern I should have with playing paws? Dana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV playing paws under door with non FeLV cats
I think your precautions aren't necessary if your neg is up to date with vaccinations. I wouldn't be worried at all and would think about starting to introduce them properly. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile. - Anonymous From: dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 3:30:56 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV playing paws under door with non FeLV cats My kitties have suddenly begun playing paws under the door of my rescued IFA positive FeLV cat and I'm wondering how worried I should be? I'm kind of worried but it seems he likes to do this and I don't want to take it away from him as it's his only kitty interaction - he hasn't had any or been interested - since I caught him a year ago. Their paws can't get all the way under the door - the gap is about a half inch high - but they get about halfway and he can get about halfway, so I think they do touch, even if it's only for a moment. I wash everything separately, and I wear flip flops in his room (although I leave them outside the door. :() I don't change clothes after playing with him, but I do wash my hands/arms. He's about 10 years old, from what the neighborhood people have told me, and he's been confirmed IFA positive FeLV and FIV positive since I rescued him a year ago. I can see he's been feeling better and better and getting more energetic as I've dewormed him, along with steady food/water/care. So I imagine he may start trying to instigate paws himself, soon. He's got a window but even that gets old, I imagine. Anyone have any thoughts on how much increased risk there is /concern I should have with playing paws? Dana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick?
Feline herpes is rhinotraceitis so, no, you can't get herpes from a cat. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 12:17 PM I doubt that they can catch our illnesses. But I have a question: my cat, Lucky (whom I inherited from my mother who died in November) has a chronic herpes infection in his left eye. Then I started getting cold sores on my nose, when I don't even have a cold. So, just wondering...could we share a herpes virus? ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 11:24 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Can Humans Make FELV+ cats sick? Just wondering if anyone knows if humans who are sick with a cold, the flu, etc can make a FELV+ cat sick. Magic is currently still asymptomatic (other than her diagnosis). I'm just wondering when we are sick if they are more susceptible with their weakened immune system. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this. I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story? How can I best help... Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied experience. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] First time poster - just diganosed via ELISA FeLV +
Hello All, I had only heard whispers about FeLV until Monday of this week. Our little 1.5 year old Bengal, Yoko, tested positive for FeLV (on an ELISA test, the IFA test is being processed right now). She presented with puddle-poo and intense vomiting. At first, we thought that she might have eaten something strange. She is a Bengal... However - upon X-Rays and an Ultrasound - SIBO (Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth) was diagnosed. Her intestines were riddled with bacteria. She is currently on 2 meds - an antibiotic and a steroid. I just got her blood panels back today and her Red Blood Cell count is off the chart at 12.22 million/uL, and her HGB is high @ 17.3 (normal 9.5-15 g/dL) and her HCT is high @ 51.2 (normal 29-45%), her absolute lymphocyte is low @1387 (normal is 1500-7000. I am hoping for a false positive since she tested negative a year ago and hasn't been in contact with any other cats since we got her from the breeder besides our (now) 10 year old male Tabby, who tested negative every 2 years and today as well. Other than this instance (which happened on Friday) she has been tight as a drum - very energetic, talkative, loving and playful. I just hope we caught it early. We were beside ourselves at the first mention of FeLV, but after doing my research and googling like crazy, I have learned so much about the disease and how it can be managed to help the cats live a long healthy life. You will be pleased to know that my vet is 100% behind us and could not be more thrilled that we are trying to control her issues (she has some other issues Lipase, Albumin and Total Protein, Cholesterol and Chloride were all super high, so we're going to try doing a homecooked food. We had been feeding her Avoderm Seafood Formula until now. We have transitioned to Royal Canin Duck until I master the home cooked flavor that the cats will love. You all are so hypervigilant and I think that is great, wanting to do the best for your pets as long as you can. Yoko was brought into our house after our cat Mercury died from renal failure. We kept him alive for 2 years on SubCu fluids, appetite increasing meds, and steroids - all done from our living room. We consider those 2 years extra borrowed time and were thrilled to have done all we could for him in his 13 year old life. Here's hoping everyone is having a good cat day today. Megan ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] First time poster - just diganosed via ELISA FeLV +
You will get a lot of wonderful advise today. Sort through it and follow your heart. The following is for your consideration: Find a holistic/alternative vet to work with your regular vet. I have the names of a couple who may be able to guide you if you don't know one. I credit Dixie's high quality years with me (she was a throw- away) to Betty Bosewell and her ability to work with my regular vets at Middletown Animal Clinic (they referred me to Betty originally). She sees the two very tiny kittens Dixie sent me from the pine thicket and they are very large, happy, healthy boys. Give your friends the very best food you can--that that has the least artificial stuff in it. Give all of you as stress free life as possible. Throw away the calendar. You have no control over when you or your friends leave this world. You provide for them as best you can and follow your heart. Talk to your friends (four-legged)...they will provide guidancehonest. Give them lots of love because that is what they give you. On Jan 19, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Megan Geckler wrote: Hello All, I had only heard whispers about FeLV until Monday of this week. Our little 1.5 year old Bengal, Yoko, tested positive for FeLV (on an ELISA test, the IFA test is being processed right now). She presented with puddle-poo and intense vomiting. At first, we thought that she might have eaten something strange. She is a Bengal... However - upon X-Rays and an Ultrasound - SIBO (Small Intestine Bacterial Overgrowth) was diagnosed. Her intestines were riddled with bacteria. She is currently on 2 meds - an antibiotic and a steroid. I just got her blood panels back today and her Red Blood Cell count is off the chart at 12.22 million/uL, and her HGB is high @ 17.3 (normal 9.5-15 g/dL) and her HCT is high @ 51.2 (normal 29-45%), her absolute lymphocyte is low @1387 (normal is 1500-7000. I am hoping for a false positive since she tested negative a year ago and hasn't been in contact with any other cats since we got her from the breeder besides our (now) 10 year old male Tabby, who tested negative every 2 years and today as well. Other than this instance (which happened on Friday) she has been tight as a drum - very energetic, talkative, loving and playful. I just hope we caught it early. We were beside ourselves at the first mention of FeLV, but after doing my research and googling like crazy, I have learned so much about the disease and how it can be managed to help the cats live a long healthy life. You will be pleased to know that my vet is 100% behind us and could not be more thrilled that we are trying to control her issues (she has some other issues Lipase, Albumin and Total Protein, Cholesterol and Chloride were all super high, so we're going to try doing a homecooked food. We had been feeding her Avoderm Seafood Formula until now. We have transitioned to Royal Canin Duck until I master the home cooked flavor that the cats will love. You all are so hypervigilant and I think that is great, wanting to do the best for your pets as long as you can. Yoko was brought into our house after our cat Mercury died from renal failure. We kept him alive for 2 years on SubCu fluids, appetite increasing meds, and steroids - all done from our living room. We consider those 2 years extra borrowed time and were thrilled to have done all we could for him in his 13 year old life. Here's hoping everyone is having a good cat day today. Megan ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have never heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be embarrassed to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to help someone who is not being reasonable, it's not the cat's fault. I would go over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the carrier won't work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor cat? The masturbation might be another bodily fluid...dental issue or infection. It sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even know if the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted to go to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to cooperate. Please go get him and let us know what you find out. L Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this. I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story? How can I best help... Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied experience. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
I will write more when I can get to a computer but my gut (from a distance knowing far less than you so perhaps not entitled to a 'gut' on this:) is that yes, this woman has issues (or sometimes 'normal' people the issue is that they are too preoccupied with their own lives) and the cat needs help which will likely require someone just taking the cat asap. I totally understand you may not be able to do that, sadly even many rescue people don't understand the importance of an IFA or what giving a home to and felv cat really entails. And 'normal' people seeking help for a cat often aren't willing to do much and will make every excuse in the world why they can't. Or perhaps she really is just kind of nuts, that is quite possible. Poor kitty:( Thank you for caring enough to explore further. I've also seen rescue people say 'somethings not right--I'm out of this one, but those are likely often some of the situations where the animal really needs help. I may be way wrong though! It is so hard to guess what the heck is up with people much of the time but getting away from crazy people/ bad situations often seems to help the cats who the people claim are the ones with the problem (and they are, due to the people and all they've been through). Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in. yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years ago. She gave the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the relative again. The kitty doesn't get daily attention, since she doesn't live there, which is why I really want to assess the situation. Now she isn't sure about the size of the space we can provide- one day we're great, the next day, she's got misgivings. As far as the masturbation thing, she said she asked the vet several years ago and was told the kitty is bored and lonely. I agree, the kitty needs a vet - 'very thin' makes me want to check his thyroid and blood sugar. It's hard to get her to stay focused, she rambles about other things; I know I'm dealing with more than a sad kitty here. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:44 PM Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have never heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be embarrassed to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to help someone who is not being reasonable, it's not the cat's fault. I would go over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the carrier won't work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor cat? The masturbation might be another bodily fluid...dental issue or infection. It sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even know if the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted to go to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to cooperate. Please go get him and let us know what you find out. L Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
So this woman is a rescue type person? How did you come into contact? Wonder if any local rescues or shelters know of her. It is all odd, could just be emotional issues. Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:25 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: thanks, Laurie, I appreciate you chiming in. yes, he is neutered, he wandered into her yard fixed, many years ago. She gave the cat to the relative, then a boyfriend, then the relative again. The kitty doesn't get daily attention, since she doesn't live there, which is why I really want to assess the situation. Now she isn't sure about the size of the space we can provide- one day we're great, the next day, she's got misgivings. As far as the masturbation thing, she said she asked the vet several years ago and was told the kitty is bored and lonely. I agree, the kitty needs a vet - 'very thin' makes me want to check his thyroid and blood sugar. It's hard to get her to stay focused, she rambles about other things; I know I'm dealing with more than a sad kitty here. --- On Wed, 1/19/11, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:44 PM Imo this kitty needs your help. I did rescue for 13 years and have never heard of a kitty masturbating...? is he neutered? She might be embarrassed to have a cat in this condition belonging to a relative (this is my suspicion). As a rescuer friend of mine says when she is trying to help someone who is not being reasonable, it's not the cat's fault. I would go over there and assess things yourself. Take a carrier. If the carrier won't work, ask about trapping him. Does anyone interact with this poor cat? The masturbation might be another bodily fluid...dental issue or infection. It sounds like this kitty needs to see a vet. How would her vet even know if the cat saw someone else. She could say the potential adopter wanted to go to someone else. I sense fear of something behind this refusal to cooperate. Please go get him and let us know what you find out. L Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this. I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to see what's going on. I got the
