Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction
Dear Laura, Thank you for giving Dani a chance for life. I also have a lot of cats (15 at home) plus a FelV sanctuary in my building in town. Sometimes these FelV kittens can live long lives, and others will die. I have found there is really nothing you can do to cure the cat of FelV, but some will throw off the virus when they have lots of love, a good diet, and no stress. I do not believe in heroic measures or invasive proceedures. In July I took in a litter of 4 FelV kittens, and they were happy playful babies until November when one of my calico girls named Molly died of anemia. Her calico sister Maggie died of the same thing one month later. Now their brother, a precious silver tabby male, Willie, my very favorite, is becoming anemic and soon there will only be one left from this litter. It is heart breaking each time I lose one, but we gave them a wonderful home and lots of love during their short lives and this is my consolation. Lorrie Hi everyone, I am new to this group--and new to FeLV. I just took in an FeLV+ kitty from the shelter where I am a volunteer. Her name is Dani ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] stomatitis
A few people in this group recommended Coptis Purge fire for the stomatitis. As well as CoQ10. From: Mary Lou jerseydevil1...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] stomatitis If your cat hs stomatitis, there is a yahoo group for discussing that problem. The group has long discussed a liquid stomatitis syrup that comes from a group in Dallas. Your vet has to get involved with the project and contact the group in Dallas. I can honestly say that I had very serious doubts about the syrup, but it works. My Abbey is FIV+ and orginally tested Felv+, but negative the 2nd and 3rd tests. She had a bad case of stomatitis and is in remission. I do not work for the group, just let people know to check it out with an open mind. I really does work. Mary Lou ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 4
*Hello Lee, and others, Lee, would you, by any chance,know how I could find that true study? I would love to get my hands on that! I was contacted by some residents of a small island off the coast of Southern California,Santa Catalina Island. The Island is owned by the Wriggly family, same Wriggleys who make the chewing gum. It only has about 400 or so year round residents, because it is a small island, and only a tiny portion of it is inhabited. Most of the island (85%) is a nature conservancy, and the Wriggleys are very proud of this contribution to nature and science. Well, tourism is the mainstay of the island locals living in Avalon (the town on the island) and people boat and fly over,often bringing their cats,and sometimes the cats stay, either on accident or purposefully lefty there. So, the island has a large feral population,as the island has no real vet or vet hospital, but only a weekend vet, more or less. To be fair, they weekend vet,along with help from Pasadena Humane Society, has made an effort to TNR some of the cats of Avalon. The problem lies in that on the 85 percent of the island not easily accessible to humans, some cats,though ve5ry difficult and arduous to survive on, have taken up residence on the 85%. So,those cats are not only not easily trappable, if at all possible to do, but have been reeking havoc on the islands wildlife balance. Some of the Avalon locals contact6ed me to help with TNR and said the cats need a solution: Wriggleys don't want to kill them,because of the bad publicity it would bring, but something has to be done.So while I was preparing to present something to the Wriggley family to help solve the problem without a bloodbath, I got another message that the Wriggleys hired an exterminator company and most of the cats on Avalon, were now gone. It would be great to have that study to use right about now... * * Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** * Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: All these killer cat articles are a backlash against TNR. It's unfortunate that some people are so mentally paralyzed that they don't realize that spaying and neutering a cat (or dog) will stop the reproductive cycle. A spayed cat is a spayed cat, one cat. An intact cat is a cat and then more and more cats with each birth of kittens. I have spoken to people who say, Well yes, but even if you spay the cat you still have a cat. Using this logic, any time you have a quantity of individuals who are considered too many, including human overpopulation you should look towards a solution that involves killing the individuals, which instantly rids the area of the unwanted human or non human but doesn't solve the long term problem of overpopulation. Hitler tried this form of birth control, killing those individuals that he thought were not valuable and should not reproduce. Obviously, it didn't work too well. Any time killing is involved in population control, there will be people who will not go along with the program because of issues like compassion and aversion to death. Now here's a true study. There was a town in Arizona or Colorado (not sure which State) that did have a large number of free-roaming cats. They did trap them and kill them and were down to very few cats. Most of the remaining cats were kept inside. It was actually against the law to allow cats outside. Mother Nature hates to be tampered with. In a year, the town was overrun by rats and mice and crop eating small mammals. People were so upset that the City Council voted to import several hundred cats from shelters in surrounding towns so that they could rebuild their outside cat population. It seems that in spite of the 150 million estimate of cats and the billions of dead mice and rats and birds, we see no dearth of mice, rats and birds, including song birds. And yes, cats are an introduced species although the cat family of larger cats such as mountain lions, bob cats and others were here already when explorers arrived to settle this continent. There was a good reason why the cats came along. If they hadn't, the rats and mice that infested the ships would have eaten the food supplies before the ships could complete the journey. All that would have been left would have been skeletons of starved to death settlers. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] War on Cats and Others Take heart: http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/02/03/170851048/do-we-really-know-that-cats-kill-by-the-billions-not-so-fast ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Re anemia and negative IFA (Dave)
Update on Tux. Recap: She tested positive for felv on the snap test in December and negative on ifa. She is a felv vaccinated house cat that presented with immune mediated hemolytic anemia. She was treated with prednisolone and doxycycline. She responded well to treatment tho no cause was identified because the vet was convinced she was felv+. This week we retested her. Weight is up 1 lb. and red blood cell count is normal. Negative on ifa. The cause of her anemia is still unknown but the vet has let the felv diagnosis go now. Thank you everyone so much for all the advice. It's heartbreaking to read about the struggles we all go through on this forum for the love of our pets. When we got tux the vet tested her for felv. She said if she was positive that she had to be put down right away. She was very insistent. I knew in my heart that was wrong and wouldn't let her do it. Of course if she were suffering that would be different...but I could never destroy a healthy kitten. I am very happy to see an entire community on this forum that feels as I did (and reinforces what I thought was right at the time). Unfortunately most people will do what the vet says...and that is very sad. Very best wishes to everyone and your furry companions! I will stay subscribed to the forum because you raise a wide array of topics and I may be able to help someone. Thx. Dave On Dec 28, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Be careful about letting get too much exercise. If she is amemic she is not getting enough oxygen to her cells as it is David Arthurs arthurs.da...@gmail.com wrote: The official diagnosis/condition from the pathologist is immune mediated hemolytic anemia/IMHA. We don't know the cause yet. We're treating for parasites (doxycycline)...and with prednisone to suppress the immune response. We'll repeat the IFA in a month. She is responding very well to treatment...the immune response to her own blood has diminished, gained back 1/4 pound, her CBC increased 50% and her new blood cell count was up 5x. We get another blood test tomorrow. She was still barely below the recommended CBC for transfusion...but is doing well despite everything. She's active though she won't play. There are a couple of times she tried to rough-house with her sister and gave up (it was actually funny to watch...after a few minutes of chase, she gave up and laid on her back...her sister came over and gave her a very gentle little nip on the butt...to which Tux let out a whine of indignation). Our vet admitted some doubt about FeLV but is sticking with it for now. I read online that for 60% of IMHA cases it is never determined what the cause was. The cats did act like they had fleas about six months ago (and we treated, though we never saw any fleas). Tux is also the garbage collector...she eats everything on the floor...so it's also possible she at something toxic. Thanks again everyone. I will follow up with any new findings. Dave ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Re anemia and negative IFA (Dave)
Thank you for not putting Tux down. Somehow the word has to get out there that it is totally unnecessary to euthanize positive cats. I tell everyone I know that has cats and hope they spread the word. This forum is awesome. They are intelligent, informed loving people that give hope when it is needed. And HOPE is so important with this disease. Good luck with Tux. My wish for her is a long happy life(-: Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Dave Arthurs arthurs.da...@gmail.com wrote: Update on Tux. Recap: She tested positive for felv on the snap test in December and negative on ifa. She is a felv vaccinated house cat that presented with immune mediated hemolytic anemia. She was treated with prednisolone and doxycycline. She responded well to treatment tho no cause was identified because the vet was convinced she was felv+. This week we retested her. Weight is up 1 lb. and red blood cell count is normal. Negative on ifa. The cause of her anemia is still unknown but the vet has let the felv diagnosis go now. Thank you everyone so much for all the advice. It's heartbreaking to read about the struggles we all go through on this forum for the love of our pets. When we got tux the vet tested her for felv. She said if she was positive that she had to be put down right away. She was very insistent. I knew in my heart that was wrong and wouldn't let her do it. Of course if she were suffering that would be different...but I could never destroy a healthy kitten. I am very happy to see an entire community on this forum that feels as I did (and reinforces what I thought was right at the time). Unfortunately most people will do what the vet says...and that is very sad. Very best wishes to everyone and your furry companions! I will stay subscribed to the forum because you raise a wide array of topics and I may be able to help someone. Thx. Dave On Dec 28, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Be careful about letting get too much exercise. If she is amemic she is not getting enough oxygen to her cells as it is David Arthurs arthurs.da...@gmail.com wrote: The official diagnosis/condition from the pathologist is immune mediated hemolytic anemia/IMHA. We don't know the cause yet. We're treating for parasites (doxycycline)...and with prednisone to suppress the immune response. We'll repeat the IFA in a month. She is responding very well to treatment...the immune response to her own blood has diminished, gained back 1/4 pound, her CBC increased 50% and her new blood cell count was up 5x. We get another blood test tomorrow. She was still barely below the recommended CBC for transfusion...but is doing well despite everything. She's active though she won't play. There are a couple of times she tried to rough-house with her sister and gave up (it was actually funny to watch...after a few minutes of chase, she gave up and laid on her back...her sister came over and gave her a very gentle little nip on the butt...to which Tux let out a whine of indignation). Our vet admitted some doubt about FeLV but is sticking with it for now. I read online that for 60% of IMHA cases it is never determined what the cause was. The cats did act like they had fleas about six months ago (and we treated, though we never saw any fleas). Tux is also the garbage collector...she eats everything on the floor...so it's also possible she at something toxic. Thanks again everyone. I will follow up with any new findings. Dave ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
