Re: [Felvtalk] Sherries Vet

[Amani Oakley]

Thank goodness that the word about Stanazolol is starting to get out to these 
vets. This is very heartening to me.

Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: August-17-16 3:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sherries Vet

I replied incorrectly to your question on this thread. Bit of amateur.  I am in 
Fort Wayne, IN

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:01 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL 
> wrote:
Sherrie

Where are you located??We have been back and forth SO many times here about 
how to get a vet to prescribe Stanazole and here your vet prescribes it 
unbidden  At least for a Felv+ cat I'd stay with this one for a while 
Really hope your Kitty responds..



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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Karen

If the Stanazolol works as expected, his appetite will improve very quickly and 
you can put him back on the baby food when that happens.

Amani




From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Karen 
Harshbarger
Sent: August-17-16 3:07 PM
To: felvtalk; felvtalk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

How did you know there was enlarged lymth nodes? Bloodwoork or X-ray or exam? 
All I have is blood work listed here. Vet does not want to use steroids of any 
kind she said cause liver is already struggling per blood work and steroids can 
cause liver illness. I have tried AD and baby food-- he threw them up. So now I 
am using ID cause vet said easy to digest. I blend it and strain so it probably 
is nit the best calories with water added too but first two syringes today has 
stayed down. But night is when he looses any daytime gains so we will see. If I 
can't figure out soon if not already too late how to get more calories in him I 
am afraid he will pass point of no return. We have interferon ordered but 
taking forever to get here-- been a week. Thanks for all your quick kind support



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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

[Amani Oakley]

Karen

Don't listen about the steroids and the liver. Stanazolol brought my cat back 
from a red cell count of 10. If there is a problem with the liver, what is the 
downside here? If the Stanazolol doesn't work and the liver gets worse, there 
is probably little or anything else that will work. If the Stanazolol works, 
you will have another opportunity to deal with the liver down the road and I 
frankly think that once your cat starts eating again, this will be supportive 
for the liver as well.

Additionally, the Stanazolol should be given with 1 mg of Prednisone daily, 
which is also helpful to the liver.


Amani



From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Karen 
Harshbarger
Sent: August-17-16 3:07 PM
To: felvtalk; felvtalk
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

How did you know there was enlarged lymth nodes? Bloodwoork or X-ray or exam? 
All I have is blood work listed here. Vet does not want to use steroids of any 
kind she said cause liver is already struggling per blood work and steroids can 
cause liver illness. I have tried AD and baby food-- he threw them up. So now I 
am using ID cause vet said easy to digest. I blend it and strain so it probably 
is nit the best calories with water added too but first two syringes today has 
stayed down. But night is when he looses any daytime gains so we will see. If I 
can't figure out soon if not already too late how to get more calories in him I 
am afraid he will pass point of no return. We have interferon ordered but 
taking forever to get here-- been a week. Thanks for all your quick kind support


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Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat

[Amani Oakley]

Karen

I am not going to repeat what many others have already read from me, over and 
over again in this group.

If you haven't seen my previous posts, and you want further information, I 
shall do my best to dig up my previous posts and re-post. However, the short 
answer from me is a recommendation to use Winstrol (Stanazolol). It is an 
anabolic steroid, which your vet (a) may never have heard of or (b) will give 
you a hard time about giving it to you. Your vet needs to get it from a 
compounding pharmacy. I suggest a dose of 2 mg a day for your cat because there 
are some very concerning numbers in the lab results you posted, especially the 
very very low platelet results, and low RBC and Haematocrit numbers. Winstrol 
will directly help increase the red cell count and haematocrit. It will also 
significantly increase appetite. It will usually start having a positive effect 
very rapidly.

Don't wait. Your vet will probably give you the run-around on getting the 
Winstrol, and will likely suggest that Winstrol will worsen the liver enzymes 
(which are already increased). However, any increase in liver enzymes is likely 
to be temporary and they will drop back down when the Winstrol is discontinued.

Sorry to everyone else for being a broken record.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Karen 
Harshbarger
Sent: August-17-16 5:30 AM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Can't eat

I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter rescue from 
our yard
We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door
We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them Outside and 
began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens showed up and old 
tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They found out one if them 
tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest of ours and all but the one 
female tested positive. So we cleaned out our garage, insulated, heated, air 
conditioned and sheltered them there. No matter what we did little Tig was so 
sick That he died before he was a yr old. He was such a sweet little cat that 
considered everything and anyone a toy--so sad. The rest tested negative the 
next two test. We all lived happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole 
stopped eating.

Took him to vet and here is bad part.
Tested positive for feline leukemia again
Bun10 (16-3(
Alt 294(12-130)
Alkp 144(14-111)
Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
Plt 39(151-600)
Rest was in normal range
The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b complex 
injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.

But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few days 
was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have not been able 
to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up. He threw up 
food three times and phlem or hair. He is very alert, drinking, urinating 2-4 
times a day, no BM until one little turd today
He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole back today 
and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of clavamox. I was 
very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only licked gravy of purina 
Fancy feast., but was start. Later this evening after syringe feed only 3 ml he 
threw up what looked like two meals!! He seems to have a good day, but then has 
setback with throwup--- three times he has done that . He has lost a pound in 6 
days!!. So worried cause he cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.

His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in normal 
range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested negative and 
bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment for them. I housed them 
together and seperated Cole.

I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and keeps 
throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ash's positive test for feline 
leukemia again.
Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole, his family and I


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Re: [Felvtalk] Sherries Vet

[Sherri Godschalk]

I replied incorrectly to your question on this thread. Bit of amateur.  I
am in Fort Wayne, IN

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:01 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL 
wrote:

> Sherrie
>
> Where are you located??We have been back and forth SO many times here
> about how to get a vet to prescribe Stanazole and here your vet prescribes
> it unbidden  At least for a Felv+ cat I'd stay with this one for a
> while Really hope your Kitty responds..
>
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>> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
>> rescue from our yard
>> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door
>>  We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them Outside
>> and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens showed up and
>> old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They found out one if
>> them tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest of ours and all
>> but the one female tested positive. So we cleaned out our garage,
>> insulated, heated, air conditioned and sheltered them there. No matter what
>> we did little Tig was so sick That he died before he was a yr old. He was
>> such a sweet little cat that considered everything and anyone a toy--so
>> sad. The rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived happily for
>> next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating.
>>
>>  Took him to vet and here is bad part.
>> Tested positive for feline leukemia again
>> Bun10 (16-3(
>> Alt 294(12-130)
>> Alkp 144(14-111)
>> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
>> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
>> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
>> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
>> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
>> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
>> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
>> Plt 39(151-600)
>> Rest was in normal range
>> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b
>> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
>>
>> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few
>> days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have not
>> been able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up.
>> He threw up food three times and phlem or hair.  He is very alert,
>> drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd today
>> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole back
>> today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of
>> clavamox.  I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only
>> licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start.  Later this evening
>> after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!!  He
>> seems to have a good day, but then has setback with throwup--- three times
>> he has done that .  He has lost a pound in 6 days!!.  So worried cause he
>> cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.
>> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in
>> normal range and seems ti be doing fine.  His other brother BJ tested
>> negative and bloodwork all normal range.  Vet suggested no treatment for
>> them.  I housed them together and seperated Cole.
>>
>> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and
>> keeps throwing up syringed food.  Also worried about Ash's positive test
>> for feline leukemia again.
>> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
>> Please advise as soon as possible.  Thank you from Cole, his family and I
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[Felvtalk] My Leuk + kitten and disgraceful vet

[Sherri Godschalk]

Robert, I am in Fort Wayne, Indiana. This was a no brainer for this vet. I
didn't request it, hadn't read anything about it, I was just looking for
guidance and to find a doctor who would fight this fight with me. He said
"The way we like to treat it is with a different steriod in addition to the
Pred"
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 28, Issue 9

[Karen Harshbarger]

How did you know there was enlarged lymth nodes? Bloodwoork or X-ray or exam?  
All I have is blood work listed here. Vet does not want to use steroids of any 
kind she said cause liver is already struggling per blood work and steroids can 
cause liver illness.  I have tried AD and baby food-- he threw them up.  So now 
I am using ID cause vet said easy to digest.  I blend it and strain so it 
probably is nit the best calories with water added too but first two syringes 
today has stayed down.  But night is when he looses any daytime gains so we 
will see.  If I cant figure out soon if not already too late how to get 
more calories in him I am afraid he will pass point of no return.  We have 
interferon ordered but taking forever to get here-- been a week.  Thanks for 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Sherries Vet

[ROBERT CHAPEL]

Sherrie

Where are you located??    We have been back and forth SO many times 
here about how to get a vet to prescribe Stanazole and here your vet 
prescribes it unbidden  At least for a Felv+ cat I'd stay with this 
one for a while Really hope your Kitty responds..


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I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter 
rescue from our yard
We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our 
door
 We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them 
Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens 
showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. 
They found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We 
tested rest of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we 
cleaned out our garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and 
sheltered them there. No matter what we did little Tig was so sick 
That he died before he was a yr old. He was such a sweet little cat 
that considered everything and anyone a toy--so sad. The rest tested 
negative the next two test. We all lived happily for next 3 1/2 years. 
Until this week Cole stopped eating.


 Took him to vet and here is bad part.
Tested positive for feline leukemia again
Bun10 (16-3(
Alt 294(12-130)
Alkp 144(14-111)
Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
Plt 39(151-600)
Rest was in normal range
The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b 
complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.


But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First 
few days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and 
have not been able to get him past One syringe since then without him 
throwing up. He threw up food three times and phlem or hair.  He is 
very alert, drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one 
little turd today
He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole 
back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead 
of clavamox.  I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But 
only licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start.  Later this 
evening after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two 
meals!!  He seems to have a good day, but then has setback with 
throwup--- three times he has done that .  He has lost a pound in 6 
days!!.  So worried cause he cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.
His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in 
normal range and seems ti be doing fine.  His other brother BJ tested 
negative and bloodwork all normal range.  Vet suggested no treatment 
for them.  I housed them together and seperated Cole.


I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat 
and keeps throwing up syringed food.  Also worried about Ash's 
positive test for feline leukemia again.

Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
Please advise as soon as possible.  Thank you from Cole, his family 
and I

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I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my 
prayers.


 Karen Harshbarger  wrote:
I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter 
rescue from our yard
We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our 
door
 We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them 
Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens 
showed up 

Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat

[Sandy]

First - has the vet checked his mouth for sores?? Then see if your vet will 
prescribe Stanzolol 2mg once a day along with the Prednisone once a day. Try 
human baby food - chicken - mixed with the AD by syringe - Revival Animal 
Supply (on-line) has a food that is for baby kitties but you might want to try 
it as a supplement for Cole - called Breeders Edge - best I've ever used - 

Sandy W 


- Original Message -

From: dlg...@windstream.net 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Cc: "Karen Harshbarger"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:15:49 AM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat 

I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my prayers. 

 Karen Harshbarger  wrote: 
> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter rescue 
> from our yard 
> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door 
> We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them Outside and 
> began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens showed up and old 
> tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They found out one if them 
> tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest of ours and all but the 
> one female tested positive. So we cleaned out our garage, insulated, heated, 
> air conditioned and sheltered them there. No matter what we did little Tig 
> was so sick That he died before he was a yr old. He was such a sweet little 
> cat that considered everything and anyone a toy--so sad. The rest tested 
> negative the next two test. We all lived happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until 
> this week Cole stopped eating. 
> 
> Took him to vet and here is bad part. 
> Tested positive for feline leukemia again 
> Bun10 (16-3( 
> Alt 294(12-130) 
> Alkp 144(14-111) 
> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9) 
> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20) 
> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3) 
> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2) 
> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02 
> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29) 
> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88) 
> Plt 39(151-600) 
> Rest was in normal range 
> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b complex 
> injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday. 
> 
> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few days 
> was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have not been 
> able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up. He threw 
> up food three times and phlem or hair. He is very alert, drinking, urinating 
> 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd today 
> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole back 
> today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of clavamox. 
> I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only licked gravy of 
> purina Fancy feast., but was start. Later this evening after syringe feed 
> only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!! He seems to have a good 
> day, but then has setback with throwup--- three times he has done that . He 
> has lost a pound in 6 days!!. So worried cause he cant eat on own and keeps 
> throwing up. 
> 
> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in normal 
> range and seems ti be doing fine. His other brother BJ tested negative and 
> bloodwork all normal range. Vet suggested no treatment for them. I housed 
> them together and seperated Cole. 
> 
> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and keeps 
> throwing up syringed food. Also worried about Ashs positive test for 
> feline leukemia again. 
> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info. 
> Please advise as soon as possible. Thank you from Cole, his family and I 


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Re: [Felvtalk] My Leuk + kitten and disgraceful vet

[Sandy]

Hello Sherri - thank goodness you changed vets - you know have one smart vet! 
This is an awesome site - the participants are empathetic and honest. 

Sandy W 

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From: "Sherri Godschalk"  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:48:06 PM 
Subject: [Felvtalk] My Leuk + kitten and disgraceful vet 

Thanks for accepting me into the group. 

The stray kitten that I adopted tested positive for Leukemia two weeks ago. I 
was so heartbroken to hear this news. And just as heartbroken to get the 
response I did from my vet. 

My Bogie, she was always small, playful and a terror, which I loved. She also 
was going in and out of heat quite often and was waiting for a break in the 
action so I could get her spayed. Before I could I noticed she had slowed down 
some…stopped knocking things off all of the tables and shelves and started 
sleeping more. I took her to my vet right away. I asked them right away to do a 
FELV test as well as the exam. Before they would even look at her really, they 
gave her rabies and distemper vaccines. Vet said she was healthy and just small 
and that I should spay her soon. I was making the appointment at the front desk 
when Dr told me to come back into the room. She said Bogie scored a faint 
positive for Leukemia and we should do a total blood evaluation and send out 
some blood to a lab in Indianapolis to verify. In the same breath she told me 
to consider putting my girl to sleep…even without knowing for certain. Shocked 
me a little about her. I said no. The diagnosis was confirmed…positive. And 
that she was severely anemic. RBC 13. They put her on Prednisone and an 
antibiotic and had me come back next week for another blood test. I had them 
also run the FEVL again, just to make sure. Still positive. Her count went up 
to 17. So not much improvement. We set up another appointment for the next week 
for a recheck. The vet called me later the same day and said that the count had 
dropped to 15 so it this wasn’t working. So I asked her what the plan was and 
what do we try next. She said there was no next. She would give me pills to 
keep Bogie comfortable but there was nothing else she was WILLING to do. “There 
are plenty of healthy cats out there that need homes” was her advice to me. I 
said “This is my cat and she deserves a chance” and hung up. I was furious. 

I was able to get into see a vet that I used to take my pets to. I asked the 
woman making the appointment if I could leave the kitten at home for this 
appointment as she was just getting over the prior visit just 2 days before and 
they agreed. I thought that was nice of them. He explained so thoroughly what 
was going on with Bogey. Why things were not working. He prescribed Stanzolol 
2mg once a day along with the Prednisone once a day. He said if my baby doesn’t 
respond to this in a couple of weeks then we will know that she will probably 
not be able to make red blood cells anymore and the only thing left would be 
transfusions. That he would be willing to try with her. She was infected at 
birth and has lived a year with it, she is one strong kitty. 

I ran home and gave Bogie her first dose. 

Hoping and praying that this will help jump start her immune system. 

I was led to this site when I Googled the name of the drug and FELV. I haven’t 
been able to stop reading these posts and all the information here. I was 
curious, what food you all feed your cats? The vet told me to keep her on 
kitten food but make sure it is high quality. I told the dr that Bogie like 
boiled beef liver and he told me to give her as much as she wants. 

Is there anything else I can do to help Bogie’s immune system become stronger? 

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[Felvtalk] My Leuk + kitten and disgraceful vet

[Sherri Godschalk]

Thanks for accepting me into the group.

The stray kitten that I adopted tested positive for Leukemia two weeks ago.
I was so heartbroken to hear this news. And just as heartbroken to get the
response I did from my vet.

My Bogie, she was always small, playful and a terror, which I loved. She
also was going in and out of heat quite often and was waiting for a break in
the action so I could get her spayed. Before I could I noticed she had
slowed down someŠstopped knocking things off all of the tables and shelves
and started sleeping more. I took her to my vet right away. I asked them
right away to do a FELV test as well as the exam. Before they would even
look at her really, they gave her rabies and distemper vaccines. Vet said
she was healthy and just small and that I should spay her soon. I was making
the appointment at the front desk when Dr told me to come back into the
room. She said Bogie scored a faint positive for Leukemia and we should do a
total blood evaluation and send out some blood to a lab in Indianapolis to
verify. In the same breath she told me to consider putting my girl to
sleepŠeven without knowing for certain. Shocked me a little about her. I
said no. The diagnosis was confirmedŠpositive. And that she was severely
anemic. RBC 13. They put her on Prednisone and an antibiotic and had me come
back next week for another blood test. I had them also run the FEVL again,
just to make sure. Still positive. Her count went up to 17. So not much
improvement. We set up another appointment for the next week for a recheck.
The vet called me later the same day and said that the count had dropped to
15 so it this wasn¹t working. So I asked her what the plan was and what do
we try next. She said there was no next. She would give me pills to keep
Bogie comfortable but there was nothing else she was WILLING to do. ³There
are plenty of healthy cats out there that need homes² was her advice to me.
I said ³This is my cat and she deserves a chance² and hung up. I was
furious. 

I was able to get into see a vet that I used to take my pets to. I asked the
woman making the appointment if I could leave the kitten at home for this
appointment as she was just getting over the prior visit just 2 days before
and they agreed. I thought that was nice of them. He explained so thoroughly
what was going on with Bogey. Why things were not working. He prescribed
Stanzolol 2mg once a day along with the Prednisone once a day. He said if my
baby doesn¹t respond to this in a couple of weeks then we will know that she
will probably not be able to make red blood cells anymore and the only thing
left would be transfusions. That he would be willing to try with her. She
was infected at birth and has lived a year with it, she is one strong kitty.

I ran home and gave Bogie her first dose.

Hoping and praying that this will help jump start her immune system.

I was led to this site when I Googled the name of the drug and FELV. I
haven¹t been able to stop reading these posts and all the information here.
I was curious, what food you all feed your cats? The vet told me to keep her
on kitten food but make sure it is high quality. I told the dr that Bogie
like boiled beef liver and he told me to give her as much as she wants.

Is there anything else I can do to help Bogie¹s immune system become
stronger?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat

[Katherine K.]

Kitties stop eating for a number of reasons. I can only speak from my
experiences. My FeLV kitty stopped eating and gagged on syringe fed food
when he had enlarged lymph nodes pressing against his stomach and
esophagus. The lymphoma was the end for him, and I wish I had not waited so
long to take him in because I feel he suffered on the last day.

My other FELV cat has stopped eating numerous times in his life. Once,
because he had an upper respiratory infection causing general malaise and
inability to smell his food. Antibiotics and Hills A/D helped with that.
More recently it was from stomatitis - inflammation of his gums. He would
run in pain every time he took a bite. Hiding under the bed and crying.

With all the throwing up I would also be worried about dehydration. If he's
nauseated, ask your vet about pepcid and/or an appetite stimulant like
mirtazapine. I use a handheld immersion blender to blend up cans of food
with water. Makes it into a soup and they can lick it up easily. But
sometimes you just have to syringe feed.

I'm sorry, I know exactly how this feels. Just give him lots of love.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM,  wrote:

> I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my
> prayers.
>
>  Karen Harshbarger  wrote:
> > I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter
> rescue from our yard
> > We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door
> >  We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them
> Outside and began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens
> showed up and old tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They
> found out one if them tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest
> of ours and all but the one female tested positive. So we cleaned out our
> garage, insulated, heated, air conditioned and sheltered them there. No
> matter what we did little Tig was so sick That he died before he was a yr
> old. He was such a sweet little cat that considered everything and anyone a
> toy--so sad. The rest tested negative the next two test. We all lived
> happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole stopped eating.
> >
> >  Took him to vet and here is bad part.
> > Tested positive for feline leukemia again
> > Bun10 (16-3(
> > Alt 294(12-130)
> > Alkp 144(14-111)
> > Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
> > Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
> > Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
> > Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
> > Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
> > Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
> > Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
> > Plt 39(151-600)
> > Rest was in normal range
> > The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b
> complex injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
> >
> > But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few
> days was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have not
> been able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up.
> He threw up food three times and phlem or hair.  He is very alert,
> drinking, urinating 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd today
> > He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole
> back today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of
> clavamox.  I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only
> licked gravy of purina Fancy feast., but was start.  Later this evening
> after syringe feed only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!!  He
> seems to have a good day, but then has setback with throwup--- three times
> he has done that .  He has lost a pound in 6 days!!.  So worried cause he
> cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.
> >
> > His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in
> normal range and seems ti be doing fine.  His other brother BJ tested
> negative and bloodwork all normal range.  Vet suggested no treatment for
> them.  I housed them together and seperated Cole.
> >
> > I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and
> keeps throwing up syringed food.  Also worried about Ashs positive
> test for feline leukemia again.
> > Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
> > Please advise as soon as possible.  Thank you from Cole, his family and I
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Can't eat

[dlgegg]

I have not hd experience with this, but will keep you and Cole in my prayers.

 Karen Harshbarger  wrote: 
> I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter rescue 
> from our yard
> We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door
>  We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them Outside and 
> began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens showed up and old 
> tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They found out one if them 
> tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest of ours and all but the 
> one female tested positive. So we cleaned out our garage, insulated, heated, 
> air conditioned and sheltered them there. No matter what we did little Tig 
> was so sick That he died before he was a yr old. He was such a sweet little 
> cat that considered everything and anyone a toy--so sad. The rest tested 
> negative the next two test. We all lived happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until 
> this week Cole stopped eating.
> 
>  Took him to vet and here is bad part.
> Tested positive for feline leukemia again
> Bun10 (16-3(
> Alt 294(12-130)
> Alkp 144(14-111)
> Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
> Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
> Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
> Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
> Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
> Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
> Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
> Plt 39(151-600)
> Rest was in normal range
> The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b complex 
> injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.
> 
> But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few days 
> was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have not been 
> able to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up. He threw 
> up food three times and phlem or hair.  He is very alert, drinking, urinating 
> 2-4 times a day, no BM until one little turd today
> He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole back 
> today and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of clavamox. 
>  I was very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only licked gravy 
> of purina Fancy feast., but was start.  Later this evening after syringe feed 
> only 3 ml he threw up what looked like two meals!!  He seems to have a good 
> day, but then has setback with throwup--- three times he has done that .  He 
> has lost a pound in 6 days!!.  So worried cause he cant eat on own and keeps 
> throwing up.  
> 
> His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in normal 
> range and seems ti be doing fine.  His other brother BJ tested negative and 
> bloodwork all normal range.  Vet suggested no treatment for them.  I housed 
> them together and seperated Cole.
> 
> I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and keeps 
> throwing up syringed food.  Also worried about Ashs positive test for 
> feline leukemia again.
> Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
> Please advise as soon as possible.  Thank you from Cole, his family and I


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[Felvtalk] Can't eat

[Karen Harshbarger]

I come to you for suggestions for our Cole. We got Cole as a litter rescue from 
our yard
We feed the strays and a little very young mother left them at our door
 We already had some house cats so built a kennel to shelter them Outside and 
began To look for homes for them. Then two litter kittens showed up and old 
tom. A no kill shelter took the littler kittens. They found out one if them 
tested positive for feline leukemia. We tested rest of ours and all but the one 
female tested positive. So we cleaned out our garage, insulated, heated, air 
conditioned and sheltered them there. No matter what we did little Tig was so 
sick That he died before he was a yr old. He was such a sweet little cat that 
considered everything and anyone a toy--so sad. The rest tested negative the 
next two test. We all lived happily for next 3 1/2 years. Until this week Cole 
stopped eating.

 Took him to vet and here is bad part.
Tested positive for feline leukemia again
Bun10 (16-3(
Alt 294(12-130)
Alkp 144(14-111)
Tbil 4.2(0.0-0.9)
Rbc 4.02 (8.54-12.20)
Hct 21.1(30.3-52.3)
Hgb 6.8(9.8-16.2)
Wbc 2.06(2.87-17.02
Neu 0.50(1.48-10.29)
Lym 0.74(0.92-6.88)
Plt 39(151-600)
Rest was in normal range
The vet gave Cole subcutaneous fluids, polyflex/dexasone injection, b complex 
injection, and clavamox drops on last wednesday.

But he cant eat and i am syringe feeding AD prscription Food. First few days 
was able to get him to take 2 syringes but then threw up and have not been able 
to get him past One syringe since then without him throwing up. He threw up 
food three times and phlem or hair.  He is very alert, drinking, urinating 2-4 
times a day, no BM until one little turd today
He bathes Self after he eats, shinny healthy looking hair. Took Cole back today 
and vet did same as before but We changed to Orbax instead of clavamox.  I was 
very excited tonight cause he attempted to eat But only licked gravy of purina 
Fancy feast., but was start.  Later this evening after syringe feed only 3 ml 
he threw up what looked like two meals!!  He seems to have a good day, but then 
has setback with throwup--- three times he has done that .  He has lost a pound 
in 6 days!!.  So worried cause he cant eat on own and keeps throwing up.  

His brother Ash tested positive again too but his bloodwork is all in normal 
range and seems ti be doing fine.  His other brother BJ tested negative and 
bloodwork all normal range.  Vet suggested no treatment for them.  I housed 
them together and seperated Cole.

I am so worried that we are going to loose Cole because he cant eat and keeps 
throwing up syringed food.  Also worried about Ashs positive test for 
feline leukemia again.
Sorry for lenght but thought you wpuld need all info.
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